Have you ever found yourself
thinking, "I want to get healthy
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but I just don't
know where to start?"
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Well stay tuned and find
out how to have a happier,
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healthier, more abundant life...
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My name is Yvonne
Lewis and you're watching
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Urban Report...
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Hello and welcome
to Urban Report...
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Today guests are no
strangers to 3ABN...
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they're the hosts
of "Abundant Living"
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shown daily on 3ABN
and Dare to Dream...
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Curtis Eakins, N.D.
and his lovely wife,
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Nutritionist, Paula Eakins...
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Welcome to Urban
Report... yeah...
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So glad... so glad...
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And thank you for
inviting us... yeah...
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Thanks for the invitation...
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Well, you're welcome, Curtis...
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Okay, so, you guys have
been at 3ABN for how long?
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15 years... about
15 years... yeah...
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15 years... Wow! How
did you first get here?
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By van...
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No, that's not what
I'm talking about...
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Believe it or not, Yvonne,
there was some friends of ours
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in Huntsville... they
saw us doing different
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programs for UAH
and Oakwood College
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and they kept saying,
"You guys actually need to
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just be somewhere real...
on television or something
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like that... " and
someone mentioned to us
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about the "Flagship Program"
the Thursday Night Program
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on 3ABN... where
they were always looking
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for individuals
making a difference
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in their Community... and
although this had happened
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3 to 4 years prior to that...
every time I would see this
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one woman... she would
say, "Have you sent it in yet...
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have you sent anything in
yet?" and I would say, "No"
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and so, finally,
we sent in a DVD...
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That we had... locally
there... in Huntsville...
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we sent in the tape there...
didn't think too much of it,
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and maybe about 6
months later we heard from...
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from Dee Hilderbrand... Dee
Hilderbrand our precious Dee
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Yes... she called on the
phone and when she called...
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I thought it was
someone playing around...
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she said, "Hi,
this is Dee Hilderbrand
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from Three Angels
Broadcasting Network...
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and I said, "Is this my
girlfriend playing with me?"
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and she was so
serious... she said,
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"No, this is Dee
Hilderbrand from 3ABN... "
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so we talked for a few
minutes, and then she said,
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"I need for you to come on in
and do the 'Flagship Program'"
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and at that time...
also... "Food for Thought"
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Okay... And, it was late...
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at the end of the year almost...
when she started talking to us
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and as she began asking about
dates... this date, that date...
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we already were booked
until the end of the year...
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and so finally
the Holy Spirit said,
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"Just tell her
when you can come"
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and I said, "Ms. Hilderbrand...
we can come in 1997...
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this is when we'd be
coming up here... 1997...
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and we were going to be able
to come on March the 13th...
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She said, "I don' even have
a calendar for next year... "
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I said, "Good,
that means... it's open
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and so we can come... "
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and then what
happened after we got here?
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We came up here and did four
other "Food for Thought" Series
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okay... then we did a two-hour
live 3ABN... "The Flagshow"
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and we were
supposed to be doing...
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two hours of just talking...
but one of the photographers
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Videographer at that time...
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camera crew said...
what they need to do is...
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one hour talking and
the other hour... cooking...
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Well, now, we just
finished doing 64 recipes...
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in two or three days...
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Wow! are you serious?
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For the "Food for Thought"
series... earlier that week...
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so my wife didn't want
to look at another recipe...
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another pot... or
spoon... and he said,
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"I'll go shopping for
you... I'll do anything...
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you got to go in the
kitchen, you got to cook... "
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"I'll do it all...
I'll do it all for you... "
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but it didn't have to happen,
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after we really just
kind of thought about it...
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Curtis said, "What
are the quickest recipes
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that you actually have?"
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something easy, something
quick and believe it or not
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that was the very first
time that Danny had ever
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gone into the kitchen...
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we brought him in
the kitchen with us...
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You got him to
come to the kitchen?
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That kitchen was maybe...
less than 10 years old I believe
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Okay... wow...
He was in there...
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and we did it live...
and he was in the kitchen...
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Great... So, it was wonderful...
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then after that show...
the phone rang off the hook
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we were told and
then after that...
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Dee Hilderbrand
said, "We want to offer you
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your own television series...
" Wow... praise the Lord...
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And in six months of shows,
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26 titles...
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I looked at my
wife... and she said,
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"Honey, do we know
26 titles and shows?"
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I mean, we'd been doing
things in the Community...
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but to list all 26... Yes...
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so, 26 shows meant
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6 months of taping...
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Yes... and that's
how long it would go
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and I thought to myself...
"We need to check in with the
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Father on this... I
mean... that's a long time...
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that's a lot to do... "
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so, we wanted to go back
and pray and ask the Lord,
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"Is this what He wants
for us" Hmmm... hmmm...
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because we really
believe in letting God do
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what He does best...
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Yes... for sure... So,
we went back to our room
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and we said, "We're
going to pray about it
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we'll go to sleep, we'll
wake up in the morning...
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and give you an answer... "
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And so, we went
back to our room...
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we had prayer...
we asked the Lord,
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if this this what he wants...
that He would open a door...
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we said, "26 shows...
I don't know if we know
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the titles of 26 shows... "
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And so the next
morning... we sat up in the bed
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and the Holy Spirit just...
the shows just kept running off
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our minds... up
to about 32 shows...
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I mean... just one by one...
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So, we called back
over... and told Dee,
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"Okay, we're
open... " and she said...
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"I'll stage it in
six months... way to go?"
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That's great...
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Fifteen years ago... so
we just praise God for that
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this is just a blessing
and... I can't tell you how many
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phone calls, e-
mails, letters...
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we get boxes of letters...
and lives have been touched
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and we just praise
God for the opportunity...
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Yes... yes... amen...
now, what would get you
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involved in this health
path in the first place?
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Okay, there are
two separate stories...
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Honey, let's go with
your version first...
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Well, actually,
Yvonne... I mean...
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I was not born and raised
in the Adventist Church...
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and so, I lived in Philadelphia,
and was one of 10 children...
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and so, basically...
everything that wasn't
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nailed down to the floor...
we ate... that's what I say
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I barbequed and
steamed and baked,
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whatever you had to
do... and so I would never have
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guessed that
anything like vegetarianism
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would be even in my mind...
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we didn't even have vegetables
when we were growing up...
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Yeah... and so... as we began...
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as I began... after marriage
and taking care of the children
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and stuff... and
then... we were in a Church
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where they kept talking
about the Health Message...
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and once I became a
Seventh-day Adventist...
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so, I went to this
class... in our Church...
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our Pastor's
wife was teaching it
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and when I got in the class...
she was talking all about
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the relationship in the family,
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the Father is the
priest of the home...
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and he's the one who is
supposed to raise the family...
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in the fear and love of God...
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that sounded
really good, you know...
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and I said, "Good,
great, great, he's got that... "
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Yeah... and then she said,
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"But then the mother...
the mother is the gatekeeper"
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Oh come on now...
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Oh, the
Gatekeeper... which means
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that she has the ability to
either make or break her family
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by the things she's
actually feeding them...
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Oh yes... and I said,
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"As if I didn't have
enough responsibilities...
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now I got this whole thing
about being a gatekeeper... "
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Along with everything
else, I'm being a gatekeeper!"
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after all the other
stuff I'm doing, you know...
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and I started
thinking about my children
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and I wanted to make sure
that they were going to be okay
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and so... then I
began... actually changing
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recipes out... I
remember... the first...
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after I finished
the first class...
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we got in that room and I
was making these burgers up
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Yvonne, it was not good...
Oh, what did you do... tell us
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I got these burgers
together they had, at that time,
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these gran-burgers
out... where you put this
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gran-burger granules into a
bowl and add hot water to it...
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and we not supposed
to add any eggs to it...
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or anything like that,
and so, I went and got those
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burgers
together... I got that stuff,
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you have the
water and everything...
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and I scooped it up and
I put it into a skillet...
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and every single gran-burger
ran to the side of the thing,
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I got the spatula, I
pushed it back together
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and I ran back out of there
and then I started crying...
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I called my girlfriend up
because we were going to class
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together... and I
said, "This is not working
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I don't know why I'm
doing this, this is so crazy,"
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she said, "Paula,
let's just keep praying,
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ask the Lord to help us out...
" and over a period of time,
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I began to just
work on these recipes...
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Hmmm...
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and my pastor... was so open...
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one day I walked
up to him and I said,
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"Pastor, I want to do
some cooking classes... "
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he said, "Okay... "
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and I said, "I want to do
it right here in Church... "
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he said, "Okay" and I said,
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"Well, and I need
food and stuff... "
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and he said, "fine...
" Elder Mendinghall...
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Elder Ezra
Mendinghall... yes... yes...
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he's just a very
calm personality...
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and so we started
classes in the Church...
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and I was Okay for
a while... teaching...
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but then people
started asking me stuff about
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anatomy and physiology...
what happens inside the body,
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I didn't have
that knowledge base...
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I only had that
cooking thing going on...
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Come on... come on now...
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And I just kept saying...
to myself... you know...
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anatomy, physiology... how
am I going to work that out...
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I would go home
and try to study it...
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what's the difference
between salt and sodium...
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is it the same
word? Hmmm... hmmm...
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and I prayed... and I
talked to the Lord about it
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and decided to go
to School... Amen...
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so I had been in
Church a while...
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and then, I
decided to take classes...
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in this whole area...
and I'm telling you...
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I cannot tell you... I
love nutrition and cooking
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so much... I was
on the front row...
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before the
teacher came to class...
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I was up there in the front...
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You're a woman
after my own heart...
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I never expected that, I
was so excited, you know,
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You know why... because if
you don't know something...
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you go and learn
about it... duh...
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if you don't know...
there are all kinds of things
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available now...
classes and opportunities
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we just have to find
out where they are...
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and take advantage
of it... so you are...
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just like one of our
Dare to Dream poster girls...
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"I'm a poster girl
now... " Because, you know,
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you didn't know know...
so you went back to School
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that's a wonderful
thing, okay... so... go ahead...
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well I was, of course,
a little bit more mature
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than most of the students
at that particular time...
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That's okay, it's never too old
you're never to old to learn...
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But then I had to do anatomy,
physiology... bio-chemistry...
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micro-biology... I'm like...
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Okay... maybe I'm
in the wrong field...
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What have I gotten myself into?
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But believe it or not...
there was a woman in the class
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that was much
older... and she was there...
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and she was kind of...
like my encouragement...
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I figured... if
she can go to school...
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and she was a lot
older than I was...
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then, I'm going to
just hang on in here...
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but God is awesome...
because He helped me get through
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each one... the
Lord is good because the
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entire time that I was in
School and prayed the prayer...
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the Lord had me... always
I had a 3.8 to 4.0 averages
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for the whole
time I was in School...
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Oh... So much
so, I won all these
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Scholarships and Awards...
and I was going to do my
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next... my first two
years and my second two years...
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and then finally...
after graduating with my first
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degree... well, really two...
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with the...
two-year... and then the four...
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and then when I moved
to Huntsville, Alabama...
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I went into the Master's Program
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and that Master's Program...
along with working there...
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I was also at Oakwood University
teaching as a Professor
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Wow! and also... working...
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well I was working
in the cafeteria first
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as an In-Service Nutritionist,
as I was finishing the
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Master's Program... and
then from the Master's Program
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I went into the actual classroom
and taught as a Professor
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at Oakwood... Oh,
this is so good...
00:11:01.04\00:11:02.72
you know... because
our viewers see you guys
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but they don't know really...
they don't know what's behind
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Hmmm... What's the
story behind you...
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so I'm glad that
we can offer that...
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what about you Curtis, now...
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Well, I grew up as a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian
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my mom was a single parent,
coming up in Cleveland, Ohio...
00:11:16.33\00:11:19.70
and so... we always
recognized the health message...
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as far as... we
always had whole wheat bread,
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Hmmm... we ate
meat at that time...
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but not a whole
lot... Hmmm... hmmm...
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as I grew older... I
began to study more on my own...
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when I moved away
from home at Age 21...
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I began to study more
about the health message...
00:11:34.67\00:11:37.67
and what it does...
to the body temple...
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Hmmm... I began
to read more and more
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and realized that...
there is a connection between
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what goes into my body...
and my spiritual well-being...
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the connection...
Ah... come on now...
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come on now... say that
again because our viewers need
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to hear this... say
that one more time...
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What goes into my body...
impacts my spirituality...
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Hmmm... hmmm... how so?
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Yeah... well, number
one... I read a statement...
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there's a book called,
"Counsels on Diets and Foods"
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Hmmm... hmmm... it's
about... maybe I guess...
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about 28 years ago...
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on a Sunday night in Houston
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in my one-bedroom apartment
about 10:30 at night...
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I remember it very well... I
read a statement that says...
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page 381 I believe... "A
religious life... could be
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more successfully gained... and
maintained if meat is discarded
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for this diet... weakens the
moral and spiritual nature. "
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Wow! wow... when I
read that... because,
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I was like maybe 23 or 24
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so if you told me that
flesh food increased my risk of
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Prostate Cancer...
Diabetes and Heart Disease...
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that's fine... the worst
thing there's McDonald's...
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that would not
have fazed me... Hmmm...
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but when I realized
that this article... food...
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impacts my spirituality...
you got my attention...
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Hmmm... hmmm... and I
began to read more about
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what the Bible
says about that too...
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1 Peter 2 verse 8 and verse
10 impacts the spirituality...
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so that moved me to more
of a healthier lifestyle...
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and my mother always
said, of our family...
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I was the first one
who became a vegetarian...
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then my mother said...
"Well, I can't let my children
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go ahead of me... " and
so she became a vegetarian.
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All right... hmmm...
hmmm... But I really...
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it had nothing to do with health
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it was first the
impact on my spirituality...
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Very interesting...
That's what drove me to the
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health message... as far
as that's concerned, yes...
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And I would think
that... it's because...
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the mind is clearer...
and can receive the impulses
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from the Holy Spirit... Right...
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and the "impress"
of the Holy Spirit...
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much more
readily... Absolutely...
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when the diet is better...
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Yes, and I began to read...
what God's original diet was
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in the Word of God...
the first book of the Bible,
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the first chapter of the
Bible, and it says in verse 29
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then after sin...
Genesis 3 verse 18...
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both of those two verses,
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is a plant-based diet...
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That's right... and
with that plant-based diet,
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then people... in Biblical
days lived... 900-years-old...
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Hmmm... You know,
Adam... lived like 930
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Methuselah lived 969 years,
and so... in the nine hundreds,
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when meat was introduced...
the life expectancy went down,
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so... So, would you say then...
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getting back to what I
had said at the very beginning
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at the outset of the Program,
that one of the things to do
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to get started... on
that healthier path...
00:14:20.25\00:14:22.99
would be to
eliminate or at least
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reduce the consumption
of meat, would you say that?
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I would say, starting
off... like you just said...
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the word "reduce" some
people can go cold turkey
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and go completely off of it...
00:14:33.14\00:14:34.44
but... if you're reducing
it... little by little...
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but you're adding now...
recipes that actually mimic
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because one of the
things that has made our
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show successful is
that... we have not changed out
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the whole recipe to something
00:14:44.69\00:14:46.58
that people have
never seen... Hmmm...
00:14:46.62\00:14:48.05
in other words... we
make foods that look like
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something that they've...
we eat with our eyes...
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Hmmm... hmmm... and
so, if it looks good...
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and something we've had before,
we're more apt to try it...
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it's just those strange foods
that people kind of back off
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away from... and so...
we never talk about the word
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"Veganism" we say...
plant-based Hmmm... hmmm...
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because when you
say the word "Vegan"
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that's even worse
than saying "vegetarian"
00:15:07.98\00:15:10.23
Vegetarian is
bad... but Vegan is like...
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we're in a different
planet... you know...
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"the 'V' word" the V word...
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so all we can say
is... "Cholesterol-free"
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Oh, there you
go... That's Vegan but...
00:15:19.59\00:15:21.75
people don't connect
the dots... Yeah, yeah...
00:15:21.79\00:15:23.64
Maybe the ones
watching the Program
00:15:23.68\00:15:24.80
may now connect the dots... but
I just threw it out there so...
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When you're dealing
with Community education...
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you want to kind of
start them where they are...
00:15:29.43\00:15:31.02
Hmmm... hmmm... but
the object is to move them
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on to a better thing...
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and so, with that in mind...
the same thing with me...
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when I was
raising the children up
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and that was... that
was a whole different
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world for me to talk about...
trying to talk about meat
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I mean... not
meat but, vegetarian...
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when we were not
even going that way...
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had not eaten that kind of stuff
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when we were growing
up... and so, to actually move
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into it... I cried a lot...
and I tried a lot of things
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I threw a lot of
things in File 13
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and that's the trash can
00:15:55.81\00:15:56.96
and as I began
putting things together...
00:15:56.99\00:15:58.84
more and more...
putting things together...
00:15:58.88\00:16:00.70
things began to
just taste better...
00:16:00.74\00:16:02.86
and it looked good
and people were like...
00:16:02.89\00:16:05.09
"Girl, your stuff is
really good Girl... "
00:16:05.12\00:16:07.28
they kind of... pulled me on...
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Yeah, yeah, that
reinforces... right?
00:16:09.98\00:16:12.27
It really does...
Because you start... you know...
00:16:12.31\00:16:14.48
you start getting
some success here...
00:16:14.51\00:16:16.05
it's tasting good...
your family is saying,
00:16:16.08\00:16:18.34
"Oh, this is good... "
and what's really good...
00:16:18.37\00:16:20.56
is when people... who normally
are heavy-duty meat eaters...
00:16:20.59\00:16:25.00
when they taste
your food and they go...
00:16:25.03\00:16:27.07
"Oh, I can do
this... " then... it's...
00:16:27.10\00:16:29.10
it really makes you feel good...
00:16:29.13\00:16:30.47
And they think
they're eating meat...
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That's it... Oh...
00:16:32.11\00:16:33.38
See, we don't tell them
until they finish swallowing...
00:16:33.41\00:16:36.46
Okay... then we tell them...
00:16:36.50\00:16:38.20
they say, "Really... " yeah...
00:16:38.23\00:16:39.87
Okay... okay... and I
have to taste all this...
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I mean... it's a rough life...
it really is... I mean...
00:16:42.35\00:16:44.90
I'm just up to... my
ankles may be... okay...
00:16:44.93\00:16:47.45
but somebody
will have to sample it
00:16:47.49\00:16:48.64
before it goes
out into the public
00:16:48.68\00:16:49.76
so, it's me...
Well, see now, in the
00:16:49.80\00:16:52.21
beginning days... I
would have said, "Poor you"
00:16:52.24\00:16:54.73
but now... I don't
think I'm saying that...
00:16:54.76\00:16:57.21
I can't tell you how many guys
want to switch places with me
00:16:57.24\00:16:59.17
for tasting the
food... that is...
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We did a class one
time, we did a class one time,
00:17:01.14\00:17:03.67
and we were
giving out door prizes...
00:17:03.71\00:17:05.73
and we had people come
on stage and we were giving
00:17:05.76\00:17:08.98
different samples
out and everything...
00:17:09.02\00:17:10.38
and so when we got done,
one guy raised his hand up...
00:17:10.41\00:17:12.61
and he said... "I
just have one question...
00:17:12.64\00:17:13.93
one question... " and
Curtis said "Okay, go ahead"
00:17:13.96\00:17:15.91
and he said, "Well,
I noticed you're giving
00:17:15.94\00:17:17.27
a lot of stuff away...
but I was just wondering...
00:17:17.31\00:17:18.89
can we take her
home for about a week?"
00:17:18.92\00:17:20.62
Curtis said, "I don't play
that, I don't play that... "
00:17:20.65\00:17:24.27
This is in Wisconsin...
the guy... he was in his 70s
00:17:24.31\00:17:27.90
and I said... "I
don't play that... "
00:17:27.94\00:17:30.67
I was not smiling...
he got the message...
00:17:30.70\00:17:34.68
so let's move on... "No,
I'll not share my wife...
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forget about it... "
00:17:39.81\00:17:41.31
So, okay, so...
let's look at this... so...
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you would reduce or eliminate
00:17:43.91\00:17:46.39
meat... animal
products... okay...
00:17:46.43\00:17:49.26
what else would you tell people
to do... that don't know...
00:17:49.30\00:17:51.97
they want to get healthy,
but where should they start?
00:17:52.00\00:17:55.03
I would switch... we
start switching things out...
00:17:55.06\00:17:57.89
for instance... when you
reduce the milk... okay...
00:17:57.92\00:18:00.68
then you're going to look for
something that looks like milk
00:18:00.71\00:18:02.61
or acts like milk... and
milk is actually just there
00:18:02.65\00:18:05.43
to help get things wet...
so we'll move from whole milk
00:18:05.46\00:18:08.13
2 percent
milk... 1 percent milk...
00:18:08.16\00:18:10.88
then we're going to
move now into almond milks...
00:18:10.91\00:18:13.16
and we're going to
move into soya milks...
00:18:13.19\00:18:14.70
then we're going to
move into rice milks...
00:18:14.74\00:18:16.53
because they
have the same coloring
00:18:16.57\00:18:18.00
and because you
just need that there
00:18:18.04\00:18:19.44
just to keep things together...
00:18:19.47\00:18:21.02
then we start using that...
so you got your milk substitute
00:18:21.06\00:18:23.63
then we're
looking at the cheeses
00:18:23.67\00:18:25.54
now before... back in the day...
00:18:25.57\00:18:26.67
they had all those hard
cheeses out there... and then...
00:18:26.70\00:18:29.48
even when you went to
vegetarian-type cheeses...
00:18:29.52\00:18:31.50
they really
didn't melt or anything
00:18:31.54\00:18:32.98
because after all... a
regular cheese is actually
00:18:33.02\00:18:35.05
nothing more than
a soya bean itself...
00:18:35.08\00:18:36.86
you can't really break that down
00:18:36.90\00:18:38.46
Hmmm... so, we say now...
00:18:38.49\00:18:40.05
there are so many
substitutes on the market...
00:18:40.08\00:18:43.05
that are imitation
cheeses, on top of which
00:18:43.09\00:18:45.79
we actually have
made our own cheeses...
00:18:45.82\00:18:48.49
that you can make from scratch,
00:18:48.53\00:18:49.86
and put on your
pizza, your Mac and cheese...
00:18:49.89\00:18:51.79
all that kind of stuff...
so you want to look at...
00:18:51.82\00:18:53.80
instead of trying to
take everything away...
00:18:53.84\00:18:55.70
let's see what we
can do in it's place...
00:18:55.74\00:18:57.53
like he said, for the
meat part... you can...
00:18:57.56\00:18:59.32
there are burgers out there
00:18:59.36\00:19:00.62
there's ground beef out there
there's Mock Chicken out there
00:19:00.65\00:19:03.32
everything that
people are used to...
00:19:03.35\00:19:04.77
so you want to
switch them out...
00:19:04.81\00:19:06.16
There are ground beef
substitutes... yes... yes...
00:19:06.19\00:19:08.69
The main thing is to
give them something... better
00:19:08.73\00:19:11.16
because the number one
killer disease is cardiovascular
00:19:11.19\00:19:14.70
heart disease and
stroke... every 45 minutes...
00:19:14.73\00:19:16.86
every 45
seconds... every 32 seconds...
00:19:16.90\00:19:19.31
are stroke and heart
disease... heart attack...
00:19:19.35\00:19:21.73
so, and a lot of that is due
to a high cholesterol level...
00:19:21.76\00:19:24.69
Okay... cholesterol
comes from? Animal Kingdom...
00:19:24.72\00:19:27.99
as an animal with
a face or a mother...
00:19:28.03\00:19:30.21
so, if we take
that away... really...
00:19:30.24\00:19:32.79
then you eliminate
or reduce the risk of
00:19:32.83\00:19:35.30
cardiovascular disease,
so it's just not the meat...
00:19:35.34\00:19:38.78
the products of flesh...
which is the milk and cheese...
00:19:38.81\00:19:41.78
we'll switch that
out... so it still mimics...
00:19:41.81\00:19:44.35
tastes like... looks
like... has the same mouth-feel
00:19:44.39\00:19:47.94
and can't tell the difference...
00:19:47.97\00:19:49.40
And see... I think
that... that's critical
00:19:49.43\00:19:52.06
because if you give
people things that are
00:19:52.09\00:19:54.69
too foreign to the taste,
00:19:54.72\00:19:56.60
like... "You know
what... this is not happening...
00:19:56.64\00:19:59.20
I don't like it... I
can't get with this...
00:19:59.24\00:20:01.91
this is not happening... "
00:20:01.95\00:20:03.20
but if you have
something that tastes like
00:20:03.24\00:20:06.54
the original deal...
Right... and looks like...
00:20:06.58\00:20:10.17
and gives you that
same consistency of...
00:20:10.21\00:20:13.35
then... it's not such a
difficult transition... I think
00:20:13.39\00:20:16.88
Yeah... we have a
statement saying...
00:20:16.91\00:20:18.91
"Never serve your Company...
00:20:18.94\00:20:21.09
strange foods... "
00:20:21.13\00:20:23.52
Because if it's
strange... if it's strange...
00:20:23.56\00:20:26.35
I don't care how healthy
it is, if it's strange...
00:20:26.39\00:20:28.51
I'm going to
McDonald's, "Where's Popeyes?"
00:20:28.55\00:20:32.12
Well, you know... as a professor
at Oakwood University...
00:20:32.16\00:20:34.46
I remember teaching my
classes in Nutrition...
00:20:34.49\00:20:36.36
and my students
would always say,
00:20:36.39\00:20:37.71
"Ms. Eakins... the kind of
food that we're supposed to be
00:20:37.75\00:20:40.38
eating here... you
know... if I ate that way...
00:20:40.42\00:20:42.81
there's not enough
food there" and I said...
00:20:42.85\00:20:45.17
"That's because you eat
to live, not live to eat... "
00:20:45.21\00:20:48.13
and now we start
trying talking about
00:20:48.16\00:20:50.00
making those changes...
and making changes inch by inch
00:20:50.03\00:20:52.66
we say, "Inch by
inch... anything's a cinch... "
00:20:52.69\00:20:55.35
and so you just have to
try to switch things out...
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you know... if you switch
out... switch out your milk...
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and then you
switch out your cheese...
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and then you switch out...
so you can still just move
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gradually into it...
we call our diet really...
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"Alternative"
"Another Alternative"
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instead of trying
to push it on you...
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we can say, "Why
don't you consider
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doing a plant-based
diet maybe one day a week...
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and then, maybe,
three days a week...
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and so, that way they
don't feel like you're trying to
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really give them a hard time,
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and they can
still... in between time...
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get some good recipes that
can make some good food up.
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You really did not
really eliminate a lot of their
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favorite foods... just
changing their ingredients
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That's right...
and that's the key...
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That is the key...
that's what I found too
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when I was practicing...
that if you want people to
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improve with their
diet... you have to...
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you can't take away...
and not give them something
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that is equal or better...
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or not equal... but better
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so that they are
getting on a new path
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without really
sacrificing that much...
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And let me add one
more critical thing...
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Hmmm... Also, as a bonus...
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more economical...
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Oh yes, when they're
counting their money...
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oh! absolutely...
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Now, that's interesting
because some people would say,
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"Well, isn't it expensive...
to buy all that stuff?"
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That's one thing we always hear
okay... not necessarily so...
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Okay... tell us how?
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Honey, let's go
with the burgers...
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just for instance... go ahead...
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You know the thing
that's so amazing is...
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we have about 6 different
kinds of burgers we make...
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with a lot of
beans... and you know,
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beans are very
inexpensive... Right...
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and we buy the dry beans
and then we cook the beans up
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and then we start putting
all the seasonings and spices
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and breadcrumbs
and stuff in them...
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so you're actually
going to spend less money...
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there's no
bone... there's no fat...
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there's no grizzle... you
got the real true burger there
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so we make these burgers up
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and put them on
a whole-wheat bun
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with lettuce,
tomatoes, red onions...
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Oh... come on... come on...
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I know... with food...
I get excited with food...
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I can't help it...
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I get excited with food...
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So we serve them up
with something like our
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oven-baked fries... we
do the fries in the oven
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you know... and
then we'll do a smoothie
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which is like a milk shake
with strawberries and bananas
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and oranges and stuff in it...
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so, it's really like the
foods they're used to seeing...
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but it's a
healthier format... so we say,
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"Don't snatch away the
stuff you're used to... "
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We like to find out what
individuals like to eat...
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Their super foods...
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and then we turn
around and make the foods
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that match the foods
they eat... That's great...
00:23:13.05\00:23:15.03
And we also have a saying
that goes something like this...
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"The cost of food... does
not stop at the cash register. "
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That's right... that's
right... Oh, come on now...
00:23:21.77\00:23:23.79
Because what you
buy, that cost of food...
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also continues on to
the doctor's office...
00:23:26.13\00:23:28.33
medication... drugs...
clinics, hospitals, et cetera...
00:23:28.37\00:23:32.73
that's the total cost of food.
00:23:32.77\00:23:35.01
That's a great
point... and you're going to pay
00:23:35.05\00:23:37.75
either before... or
after... That's right...
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You know... somehow you're
going to pay for what you do...
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that is so critical... Yeah...
00:23:42.85\00:23:45.09
What would you say...
is the greatest challenge
00:23:45.12\00:23:48.08
that you guys
face... in conveying
00:23:48.12\00:23:51.21
health principles to
people, what do you think
00:23:51.25\00:23:53.89
is the biggest
challenge to getting people
00:23:53.92\00:23:56.52
to actually make a change?
00:23:56.56\00:23:58.81
I think...
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a lot of times...
a lot of people...
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now we are in the
South... Huntsville, Alabama...
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Okay... And... that South has
00:24:06.50\00:24:10.05
the most challenging area of
any area in the United States
00:24:10.08\00:24:13.46
How so?
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we're the
"Diabetes Belt" number one...
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we're in the
"Stroke Belt" number two...
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the top 3 Obese
States in this Nation...
00:24:21.33\00:24:24.69
Mississippi is number
one... eight years running...
00:24:24.72\00:24:28.02
Alabama and Tennessee
are tied for second place...
00:24:28.05\00:24:30.59
Wow! I didn't know
that... So the obesity rate...
00:24:30.62\00:24:33.12
is top in South
Central area as well...
00:24:33.15\00:24:35.86
so we're a "Stoke
Belt," "Diabetes Belt,"
00:24:35.90\00:24:38.94
and "Obesity Belt"
with that... you also have
00:24:38.97\00:24:41.98
of course,
hypertension as well...
00:24:42.01\00:24:44.03
so with that in mind... you
have a lot of cultural taste
00:24:44.06\00:24:47.40
that people are used to
eating, in those States...
00:24:47.43\00:24:50.98
mainly... fried foods...
00:24:51.01\00:24:54.61
Hmmm... hmmm...
Particularly in the South...
00:24:54.64\00:24:56.77
in the deep
South... Hmmm... hmmm...
00:24:56.81\00:24:58.24
so, therefore, we
have to educate people
00:24:58.28\00:24:59.68
and we go through God's Word...
00:24:59.71\00:25:00.78
the Word of God...
because... we're also in the
00:25:00.81\00:25:03.91
"Bible Belt... " we
have to have more freedom
00:25:03.94\00:25:06.70
in that area... spend
more in educating people
00:25:06.73\00:25:09.45
in our PowerPoint presentations
00:25:09.49\00:25:10.81
there are Bible
texts in there too...
00:25:10.84\00:25:13.13
we don't turn into a
Sunday-School Class but...
00:25:13.17\00:25:15.04
let people know
that the Word of God
00:25:15.08\00:25:16.92
has something to say
about healthful living...
00:25:16.95\00:25:18.99
help them have more freedom
than let's say in the West
00:25:19.02\00:25:21.02
or Midwest... all
right... so look at it
00:25:21.05\00:25:23.22
from that standpoint...
from the Spiritual standpoint,
00:25:23.26\00:25:25.83
from a Biblical standpoint,
people are more accepting
00:25:25.86\00:25:27.97
and realize that... the
Word of God has something
00:25:28.00\00:25:30.07
to say about
healthful living as well...
00:25:30.11\00:25:31.43
and they seem to be a
little bit more accepting
00:25:31.47\00:25:34.06
and make that
transition as well...
00:25:34.09\00:25:35.88
Along with that
too... is that...
00:25:35.92\00:25:37.64
when we're doing our
classes in the Community...
00:25:37.67\00:25:39.95
the people are sick...
when they come to our classes
00:25:39.99\00:25:42.20
their cholesterol's sky-high
their blood pressure is high,
00:25:42.23\00:25:44.72
and they've got Diabetes...
so they come to the Class
00:25:44.75\00:25:47.51
because they
want to learn more...
00:25:47.55\00:25:48.73
although they might not be
ready to make these changes,
00:25:48.77\00:25:50.79
but they want to learn
more about what's going on
00:25:50.83\00:25:52.69
with their body...
the high cost that they're
00:25:52.72\00:25:54.55
paying for the
drugs they are taking,
00:25:54.58\00:25:55.88
or someone's just died of
a Heart Attack or a Stroke...
00:25:55.92\00:25:58.56
and so they're more
open when they come in...
00:25:58.59\00:26:00.84
Yes... although that tradition
00:26:00.87\00:26:02.37
is still back there... Right...
00:26:02.41\00:26:04.45
and so that's
why we make foods...
00:26:04.49\00:26:06.32
that match their tradition...
00:26:06.35\00:26:08.11
Once they taste the food...
yeah... Master of Tradition...
00:26:08.14\00:26:11.59
That is critical...
because if you're...
00:26:11.63\00:26:14.58
they're going to
want... many times...
00:26:14.62\00:26:17.50
some Greens... Mac and
Cheese, Fried Something...
00:26:17.54\00:26:21.40
Corn Bread... Fried Chicken...
so if you can find a substitute
00:26:21.43\00:26:27.53
for each thing...
that's palatable...
00:26:27.57\00:26:29.93
it still tastes
good... so, they don't go...
00:26:29.97\00:26:32.47
"eeewwww... "
00:26:32.51\00:26:33.94
Because they're
not missing anything...
00:26:33.97\00:26:35.00
That's right... that's
right that is critical...
00:26:35.04\00:26:37.24
You know what... oh go ahead...
00:26:37.27\00:26:38.81
I'm just saying...
we just praise God...
00:26:38.84\00:26:40.30
because when we go
and do these Programs...
00:26:40.33\00:26:42.32
is that... we find out
what's actually going on
00:26:42.35\00:26:44.30
in that Community...
and so we prepare the foods
00:26:44.34\00:26:46.17
that match that...
so they're excited...
00:26:46.20\00:26:48.39
because they know...
okay... I don't believe this...
00:26:48.42\00:26:49.98
so they'll say something like,
"No she didn't do that... "
00:26:50.01\00:26:52.27
"No she didn't make a
cheesecake with tofu...
00:26:52.30\00:26:54.61
with strawberries on
the side, no, no, no... "
00:26:54.65\00:26:56.62
but when they go to
eat it they are shocked
00:26:56.65\00:26:58.47
and they are ready to
get the recipes and start...
00:26:58.51\00:27:00.75
Oh... you know
what? our time is up...
00:27:00.78\00:27:02.96
I can't believe
it... our time is up...
00:27:03.00\00:27:05.00
Hey, let's go for
another 30 minutes...
00:27:05.03\00:27:07.84
We can't have the
Director go... "Oh... "
00:27:07.88\00:27:10.46
He's probably
doing that right now...
00:27:10.50\00:27:13.01
I know... I know... I
know thank you so much...
00:27:13.04\00:27:15.38
you guys are such a
wonderful blessing...
00:27:15.41\00:27:17.11
we love you at
3ABN... thank you...
00:27:17.14\00:27:19.34
Genesis 1:29 outlines
man's original diet...
00:27:19.38\00:27:23.23
God says... "Behold I have given
you every herb bearing seed,
00:27:23.27\00:27:26.72
which is upon the
face of all the earth,
00:27:26.76\00:27:28.51
and every tree,
in which is the fruit
00:27:28.54\00:27:30.22
of a tree yielding seed;
to you it shall be for meat.
00:27:30.26\00:27:34.42
man's original diet
was a plant-based diet...
00:27:34.46\00:27:37.03
there are now
hundreds of studies
00:27:37.06\00:27:39.28
that attest to the efficacy
of a plant-based diet...
00:27:39.31\00:27:41.93
I hope that you
will implement the steps
00:27:41.97\00:27:44.76
that were suggested
here by the Eakins today...
00:27:44.80\00:27:47.20
to make your life healthier...
00:27:47.23\00:27:48.81
Jesus wants you to
be healthy and whole...
00:27:48.84\00:27:51.45
His Word will give you the
principles that can lead you
00:27:51.48\00:27:54.71
to a truly abundant life.
00:27:54.75\00:27:56.56
Well we've reached the
close of another program,
00:27:56.59\00:27:59.21
thanks for
watching, see you next time,
00:27:59.25\00:28:01.74
it just wouldn't be
the same... without you...
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