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>>You guys one of the
most amazing things about human
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nature is that
we're communicators.
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WE want to articulate and
bring language to bear upon our
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relationships with one another.
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The reason we're communicators
is because God is a
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communicator, and we
were made in His image.
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That's why we
have the word of God.
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We have scripture because when
God decided to communicate with
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us He began to inspire prophets
to compose ideas in words.
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Jesus of course is the
ultimate expression of God's
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self-disclosure
and His communication.
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He is the word with a capital W.
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>>Personification.
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>>Yeah personification.
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>>And sometimes we even
communicate by saying nothing.
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I mean we can actually say
nothing and be communicating.
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>>Yeah with our eyes,
shrug of the shoulders.
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Yeah, whatever we're
communicating non-verbally.
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>>I think though it would
be good for us to continue to
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communicate with words.
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[Laughter]
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>>Not to say nothing.
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>>You mean as apposed to
just staring at one another.
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>>Sitting here saying nothing.
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Yes.
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>>There's a link here because
we've been talking about the
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covenant.
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And the covenant is a way of
God communicating to humanity.
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And maybe somebody should do
a review, because we're working
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our way through
the Old Testament.
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>>Well I feel like what we
sought in Genesis chapter 3.
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That's what started for me.
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I mean that's
foundational to covenant.
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Post-fall at least, we know
there's a pre-fall covenant, you
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know there's an agreement there.
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But the post-fall covenant is
Adam and Eve are spectators and
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they're listening to a
conversation between God and the
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serpent, the snake,
the deceiver, Satan.
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And basically God is
saying to him, to the serpent.
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I am going to do something for
them that is going to destroy
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you.
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You are going to have your day.
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You're going to bruise my heel.
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But I'm going to crush you.
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And this is a promise that I am
making to them that's going to
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be fulfilled through the promise
keeper, through the warrior that
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is coming.
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Now I like that.
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That's foundational to covenant.
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Everything that comes outside
of that seems to be, well, not a
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second covenant.
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I wouldn't say that but the
revelation of the failure for
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humankind to keep
covenant with God.
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Yeah, I think that the best
language is not--you recognize
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that not that its a second
covenant but that that is the,
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sort of, promoidal, original
covenant where God says this is
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something
that's going to happen.
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I like the way that you says
Adam is there, Eve is there.
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They're the
spectators to covenant.
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God is saying this
is something I will do.
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I will put enmity, and we sort
of already got through that to
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get us up to about
the time of Abraham.
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We spent some time in the call
of Abraham, of course originally
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Abram.
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And the whole concept there, and
Ty did a great job of unpacking
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the significance and the beauty,
remember of the split pieces,
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and God himself being the one
who walks through that this is
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what will be done to me if I'm
not faithful to the covenant.
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What we have then, is this
picture where...where God is
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extending His hand as the
originator of the covenant...as
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the creator of the covenant...as
the one who will keep his
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promises.
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And everybody else's job, if you
can use that language, including
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Abraham.
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But also Noah and Adam and
the children of Israel right now
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there 'job' is to
believe those promises.
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>>Amen.
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>>Right and when you believe the
promises of God then that will
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create certain
behaviors and actions within us.
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But getting back to the time of
Abraham, God takes his promise
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to Abraham, you'll have a
child, Abraham believes God.
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And its accounted to him
as convenental faithfulness.
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OK you believe that I
can do what I say I'll do.
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Now if I could just be so
bold as to sort of move quickly
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through Abraham's history.
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Abraham begat Issac,
Issac--Jacob, Jacob-sons of
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Jacob who come to be
known as the children of Israel.
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They then increase
in--time---kind of super
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simplifying here.
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But a time of famine comes as
they've grown, the go to Egypt.
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But they continue to increase
and Pharaoh gets nervous about
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them.
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They're eventually enslaved and
that really gets us through it.
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That's a super quick version of
basically Genesis, the time of
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Abraham down to
Genesis, what is it 50 or 51.
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So then we open in Exodus and
now we're in the time of Moses.
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>>Right.
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>>Right?
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Several hundred years have
transpired now since the time of
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Abram...Abraham but God is now
longing to re-establish...maybe
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that's the wrong word but
to restate his covenant to his
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people, the descendants of
Abraham because God has made
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that promise.
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>>Yeah and it seems like
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>>You are the descendants.
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>>Yeah.
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>>Go ahead...go ahead.
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>>It seems like
they've lost sight of it.
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They've been in bondage for,
you know, centuries now and they
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have been completely captive
to the Egyptians and the ways of
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Egypt, the worship of Egypt,
and the idolatry of Egypt.
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It seems like God is reminding
them or needing to remind them,
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hey remember this covenant
relationship that I wanted to
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have with you...that
I wanted to establish.
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>>That I
established with your Fathers.
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>>Yes.
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>>This is a statement that comes
up repeatedly early in Exodus,
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let my people go..my people.
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>>My people.
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>>My people...my
people...my people.
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>>That is to say...that is to
say the descendants of Abraham.
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>>That's covenant language.
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>>That's covenant
language because that goes back.
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And that's a beautiful
thing because God is telling the
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Pharaoh: 'these are my people.
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They belong to me.' And
following that through right
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before you get to chapter
20 where God has this amazing
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manifestation.
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>>Excellent stuff.
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>>Excuse me Exodus chapter 20,
where the law is..is presented
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in 19 Exodus chapter 19--there's
the preamble here in verse 3 and
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Moses goes up to God and
the Lord called to him from the
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mountain and says 'Thus you
shall say to the house of Jacob
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and tell the children of Israel,
you have seen what I did to the
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Egyptians and how I bore you on
Eagles wings and brought you to
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myself.
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Now therefore if you will
indeed obey my voice and keep my
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covenant..the language.
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>>There's the language.
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>>There's the language, then you
shall be a special treasure to
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me above all people
for all the earth is mine.
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This is God essentially
reminding them of his covenant
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faithfulness.
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He's repeating history, he's
saying you can see clearly that
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I'm serious.
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I'm not playing games.
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I'm committed.
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I've shown up in your lives.
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I've delivered you.
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I am here because
I am pursuing you.
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And this is all leading up
to Exodus chapter 20 with this
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awesome
manifestation of the law of God.
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>>So you did a great job there
of sort of getting us up to
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Exodus 19 and I love what you
said early on there that that
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refrain in early Exodus is let
my people go..my people go..my
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people go.
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And a refrain that comes up in
the Old Testament over and over
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again is this I will be their
God and they will be my people.
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They will be my
people...they're..you, hey those
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are my people you
have to let them go.
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So God here then says I like it
in verse 5 now therefore if you
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will indeed obey my
voice and keep my covenant.
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The reason that they were the
people of God was because of the
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covenant.
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In fact just to [zipper sound]
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fast forward way to the
New Testament just very quickly
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Paul's point when he talks about
well what's the good in being a
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Jew after the gospel has gone
to the Jews and the Gentiles he
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says well they
receive the oracles of God.
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They were the one--they were
the recipients of the, Ty talked
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about the communication---they
were the recipient and we're
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gonna see here as we're
just getting into Exodus 20 and
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beyond that those oracles that
were given to them were the Ten
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Commandments, the writings
of Moses, the sanctuary system.
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God entrusted a treasure trove
of knowledge about Himself to
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them.
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They were his people and he
called them to be true to the
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covenant that he was
seeking to establish.
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>>This wasn't just for them, in
other words, the idea that this
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was just for the Jews and so
it was just for this people, no
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this was for them to share
with the rest of the world.
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They were the medium
through--God was going--through
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who God was going to bring
relationship of himself to all
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peoples and all nations.
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>>To go back to Ty's opening
line there about how we're all
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communicators we
long to communicate.
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We communicate with our eyes,
with our hand gestures, with our
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mouth.
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You could say that
Israel was God's communication.
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>>Yes.
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>>Perfect.
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>>To the earth.
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>>Perfect.
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>>He gave them the law.
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He gave them--the Bible calls
these the ten words, right?
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The Ten Commandments it says the
ten words that were written on
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what were called the
tablets of testimony.
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So they were then to take those
words and communicate them to
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the surrounding nations
and the surrounding peoples.
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>>And it's really interesting
because when you look at the
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Bible when we did this earlier
we talked about how the Bible
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was inspired, how it
is God's inspired pen.
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In other words, its not word for
word but there are certain words
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that are written specifically,
directly by the hand of God.
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And these words that we're
about to read are those words.
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>>Yeah.
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>>Yeah often times in the Ten
Commandments we...we think that
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the Ten Commandments begin with
thou shalt not have no other
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God's before me as we...as
we come to chapter 20 of Exodus.
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But the thing is that the
covenant concept is front end in
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the law itself.
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Now I don't know what version I
think you've got New King James
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version.
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>>Same King James.
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>>James has King James version.
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But in my New King James version
when you look at Exodus 20 it
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begins with verse 1 and God
spoke all these words saying and
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then in my version
quote marks begin in verse 2.
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So right now we're beginning to
read what was inscribed with the
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finger of God in
the tablets of stone.
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This is the covenant.
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These are the tablets of the
covenant and it doesn't begin,
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as we look at the Ten
Commandments with you shall have
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no other God's before me.
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It's not a you shall beginning,
it's an I am and have done
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beginning.
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Verse 2 I am the Lord your God
who brought you out of the land
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of Egypt, out of the house of
bondage, you shall have no other
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God's before me.
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So the progression of
the thinking here in the Ten
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Commandments is God stating I
have delivered, I have set you
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free therefore be free,
experience what I have by my
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mighty power achieved on your
behalf, your liberation is my
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achievement and now having
achieved your liberation you
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shall have no other God's before
me and the Ten Commandments
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then, if you understand them in
the context of God's liberating
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power.
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The Ten Commandments sound more
like God is making promises than
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God is, you know,
exacting behaviors as commands.
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It's not..it's not you
shall...you shall not I
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delivered you, you shall not.
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>>Is there something
to the recital of history.
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He's repeating the providential
leading and I think there's
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a---there's something there that
applies personally like I need
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to know that God is faithful.
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I'm talking like real life now.
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>>Right here, right now.
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>>Like I need to know that I
can trust God and I need to know
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that it's possible to
live according to his will.
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And I think that's a beautiful
thing so remembering what God
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has done in the past is a
powerful, powerful testimony
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that God is--that we can
trust him now and in the future.
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>>There's a specific past that
God is reminding them of in the
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first commandment.
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I am the Lord your God who
brought you out of the land of
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Egypt, out of the house of
bondage is referring straight
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back to the
passover deliverance.
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It's talking about the lamb that
was slain, the blood was placed
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around the door, and you could
say, I don't know, what do you
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think about this?
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You could say that because the
first commandment specifically
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is referring back to the slain
lamb and the passover that the
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cross of Christ is explicit or
at least implicit in the first
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commandment.
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>>Amen.
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>>Of course.
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>There's
blood--there's blood there.
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>>So its redemption language.
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Its deliverance language.
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Its liberation language.
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>>The passover precedes the
deliverance of passover precedes
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the moral exhortation
of the Ten Commandments.
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Before we ever get to the
this is how we should live,
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deliverance has
already taken place.
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I like two things that you said
Ty and I want to play off both
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of them.
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The first is you are using
Pauline language intentionally
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or not when you said I've made
you free so live in freedom.
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That's Galatians 5.
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>>Galatians 5:1.
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>>Yeah Galatians 5 for freedom
Christ set you free and we think
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of that in terms of down toward
the New Testament etc. but God's
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M-O, his motis
operandi has not changed.
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He set the children of Israel
free from Egyptian bondage so
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they could live in freedom.
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The second thing that I want
to say is that you are exactly
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correct that these are less
prohibition and more promise.
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And I think if you just take the
word shall and translate it or
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render it in its totally
contextually and exojectically
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sound to do so, render it as
will, you get a better feel for
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the commandment.
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You will not commit adultery.
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You will not have
other God's before me.
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This is now a promise of what
can and will happen if you live
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in the light of my
love and my deliverance.
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>>Yeah that's powerful.
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That's exactly the point.
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In the first commandment then
God is basically saying--He's
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saying I've achieved the
whole thing on your behalf.
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You just need to live by faith
in the recognition of what I've
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done for you.
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>>If..if--let me just say this.
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This is something that I
absolutely love when I teach the
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law, the Ten Commandments I just
go quickly through the first
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four commandments and I show--I
say very simply this, that the
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first commandment is you will
have no other God's before me.
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That is God asking for us
to give him our affections.
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When I married my wife the
minister said to us do you take
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this woman to have and to hold.
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Not literally to own her
like you would own a trinket.
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But to have her, to hold her,
to give her your unqualified and
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undivided affections.
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The second commandment God says
you will not make unto you any
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graven image or any likeness of
anything that is in the heaven
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above the earth beneath
the waters of the earth.
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You will not bow down
yourself to them or serve them.
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So that raises the question with
what do we make and with what do
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we bow?
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And the answer is the body.
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God says that's an
illegitimate use of your body.
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I gave you the skill, I gave
you those hands, I gave you that
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body, that's an
illegitimate use.
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You will not use it for that.
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Third commandment is you will
not take my name in vain, well
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with what would we
take God's name in vain?
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Our words, our mouths and
so God says I need your words.
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Your words should be directed
toward me and toward others,
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love the Lord your God with
all your heart, your neighbors,
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yourself.
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The fourth commandment,
remember the Sabbath.
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God here says memorial of
creation, seventh day I rested,
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memorial of
redemption, I delivered you.
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What is He after here?
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What is the Sabbath about?
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Time.
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So if you just look at those
commandment number one I want
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your affections, commandment
number two, I want your body,
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commandment number three I
want your words, your mouth,
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commandment number
four I want your time.
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That is the stuff of
which relationships are made.
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>>Yeah totally.
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>>You have a spouse.
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You have a spouse.
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You have a spouse.
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I have a spouse.
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All of us are married and if
you start slacking on any one of
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those with your spouse she
doesn't have your affections,
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she doesn't have your body, your
physical presence, she doesn't
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have your words of affirmation
and she doesn't have your time
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you're having
relational breakdown.
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>>mhmm
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>>Yeah.
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>>So we so often shallowly and
incorrectly read the law as if
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its this stern don't,
don't, don't don't, don't, I'm a
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dictator and I'm in heaven and
I---no God is saying I want you.
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>>Yeah, yeah.
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>>I want you.
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>>Give me your heart.
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>>I want you.
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>>Give me your heart, enter into
relationship with me, covenant
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relationship with me and I
promise you you will have no
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other God's before me.
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I promise you you
will not commit adultery.
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I promise you you will not
murder, you will not steal.
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You will not do those kinds
of things when you're in proper
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relationship with me.
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>>to me.
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>>And the impact of that takes
on the social dynamic and we
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were talking about, earlier that
our relationship with God will
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affect relationship with others.
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You just highlighted the first
four which everything you said
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had to do with
relationship with God.
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And the way that the
commandments are--are structured
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is that it begins by emphasizing
how we related, think and feel
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about God and then it
immediately transitions to what?
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>>How we relate to others.
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>>Yeah.
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>> How we
relate to other people.
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>>Vertical, horizontal.
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>>Exactly--that goes exactly
with Jesus summary of the Ten
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Commandments.
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He said you can summarize
it in two commandments.
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Number one, love God with all
of your heart, soul, mind and
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strength.
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Commandment number two,
love your neighbor as yourself.
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>>Matthew 22
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>>And so you see it right here.
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This is exactly what Jesus was
speaking about that the thing is
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structured this way.
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IT affects everything so
God's covenant is holistic.
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>>Listen to this in Exodus
34 verse 28 so he was there with
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the Lord, speaking of Moses,
34:28--40 days and 40 nights he
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neither ate bread nor
drank water and he wrote on the
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tablets the words of the
covenant, the Ten Commandments.
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So we're tracing the
thread of covenant through.
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We talked about covenant
with Adam, covenant with Abram,
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covenant with Abraham after his
name was changed, covenant with
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the children of Abraham,
and then the children of Israel.
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Then now he says these tablets,
this is the contract--we talked
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earlier about how a covenant was
a contract--it was a vow--it was
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a promise.
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God says this is the
tablets of relationship.
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>>Yeah.
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>>This is the tablet of
covenant, of connection.
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>>Yeah.
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>>you guys we need to take a
break and we'll come back and
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continue this discussion--what
we're...what we're going to see
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right now is the publishing
process of Light Bearers
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Ministry, the ministry that
we're all associated with and
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literally millions upon millions
of publications are being sent
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out all around the world.
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>>Amen.
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>>For the express purpose
of establishing relationship
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between human beings and God.
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>>They're published in this very
building that we're sitting in
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right now.
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>>That's right.
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So let's just take a break.
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We'll be right back.
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[Music]
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Light Bearers Ministry is
primarily all about publishing
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so let's just take a tour of our
15,000 square foot publishing
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facility.
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We're able to produce multiplied
millions of publications in 32
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different languages
that go all over the world.
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The great thing about this
press is that it is completely
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computerized.
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The press is able to print on
both sides of the paper in one
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pass through the press roll
after roll after roll all day
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long.
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Once the material is printed,
folded, boxed and palatalized.
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It goes into this large storage
unit that's like a big drawer
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system.
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This is where it gets
really exciting because once the
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material is completely prepared
we load this stuff up into
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semi-loads that hold between
2 and 3 million publications.
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And that material goes out to
Seattle where it's loaded onto a
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barge and then taken
somewhere in the world.
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[Music]
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That stuff lands and these
people are overwhelmed to have
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reading material in
their own mother tongue.
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That's when people's hearts
really begin to get touched as
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they encounter the gospel of
Christ and God's incredible love
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for them, many of them for
the first time in their lives.
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Paper is powerful.
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Paper is something that we
see utilized in a way that goes
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beyond anything that
is in the world today.
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It has a power that no other
medium in the world has because
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it has an ongoing life.
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One person in the home reads
that piece of literature and
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then they can give it to someone
else and they can read it and
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share it and then they
can give it to somebody else.
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>>Next time you go
two people instead of one.
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>>It's actually passed on
even from one family member to
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another to read.
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>>And next time you
got three instead of two.
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>>Unlike radio television that
comes and then is gone, that
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tract is a permanent
possession of that individual.
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And so you see one piece of
literature after another, nickle
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of less going to these
individuals and being used over
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and over again reaching
one heart after another after
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another.
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>>To partner with Light Bearers
in spreading the gospel visit us
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>>just to think that from this
very location from where we are
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sitting on this cement millions
of pieces of literature are
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going all over the world.
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>>Praise God.
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>>And bringing people back,
drawing people back, inviting
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people back into that covenant
relationship that God has.
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>>Amen.
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Amen.
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>>That we're talking about right
now--that God wants us to enter
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into--that God longs
for us to enter into.
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>>From hundreds of years past
all the way through the days,
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the birth, the life of Christ
and to this very time, this very
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year.
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>>Well we were just
before..before the break in
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Exodus chapter 20 and as God is
establishing or re-establishing
00:22:09.13\00:22:13.23
relationship with his people
after they're coming out of
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Egyptian bondage--after giving
the Ten Commandments at Mount
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Sinai as..as God's covenant then
immediately the book, of Exodus
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continues to unfold with God
stating what his overall purpose
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is--what his overall goal is and
its articulated really well I
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think in Exodus 25 verse 8
where God now has given the Ten
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Commandments and now he says
to Moses for the people and let
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them make me a sanctuary
that I may dwell among them.
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So God is...God is expressing
His desire for coming into
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relationship
with his people here.
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There is a temple to be built
for the specific purpose of God
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dwelling among his people.
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>>Yeah.
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The...the...the picture here is
exactly the picture that we see
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in Eden.
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Adam and Eve are fleeing,
they're hiding, they're covering
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and God is coming
down to be with them.
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Here God is saying I want to be
with them--that's the story of
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scripture--we actual spent time
on that way back I think maybe
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our second or third conversation
where we went to Revelation 21
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there Revelation 22 where John
is just enraptured with this
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idea.
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He says and God will be with
them and they will be with him
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and the Tabernacle of God
is with men...with, with, with.
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Jesus himself is
Emanuel, God with us.
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>>Yeah.
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>>So here is a seeing through a
glass, not even so darkly, but a
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picture, somewhat veiled because
it's not yet Christ in the Flesh
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but it's God's desire to be
with--to be proximate--to be
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amongst his people.
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>>This with language--this idea
of relationship continues in
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Exodus 25 because after
verse 8 says let them make me a
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sanctuary that I may dwell among
them--then it immediately goes
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into a description of how it's
to be built and the most Holy
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place is described and they're
given specific instructions for
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building the ark of the
covenant...the ark of the
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testimony with the two cherubim
verse 18 and the two cherubim
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are---are---are positioned
on the mercy seat--that gold lid
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that was on top of the box which
was the ark ofú the covenant.
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And then skip down you guys to
verse 22 and God says here and
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their I will meet with you.
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>>Yep.
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>>And I will speak with you
from above the mercy seat from
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between the two cherubim.
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So here's this language again
where God is basically saying to
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the people.
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I want a relationship with
you...I want to communicate with
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you.
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And so I'm going to meet with
you and speak with you from this
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position.
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>>The sanctuary is often
called in the Old Testament the
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tabernacle of meeting.
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The place of meeting--the place
of communion but--not but...and
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the various ceremonies and
priests and priesthood and..and
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furniture and accoutrements.
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I mean let's be honest the
sanctuaryís really complex.
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I mean at one
level its really simple.
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I want to be with my people.
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At another level you start
getting into the details--you
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read through the book of
Leviticus--measurements and the
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various offerings--oh no this
one's done like this, this and
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this.
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Well this one's a little
different it's like this and
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this.
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There is a complexity there.
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My take of the complexity--I'd
be super intereted to see your
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guys take on this is
always that God is a real God.
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He is an actual God who is holy
who's majestic, whose powerful,
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whose awesome.
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And he's a holy God and because
we are sinners and we have
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fallen short of God's glory we
can't just go walking into his
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presence and the same time I
might just walk into Ty's house
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or walk into Jeffrey's
house--God says the means by
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which you approach me are these.
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But even here it's not just some
arbitrary thing, every article
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of furniture, every sacrifice,
every measurement, every detail
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of the sanctuary points in
some specificity to Christ.
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>>One thing that's helped.
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>>You come to me through Jesus.
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>>Yeah.
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Sorry about that David.
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>>No go ahead.
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>>One thing that's helped me
because you said it is complex
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and there's so many details and
there's furniture and there's
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just all kinds of stuff.
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But the book of Exodus maps out
the sanctuary in a very, very
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simple way.
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I don't know if you guys can
see this but let me...let me go
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back---This thing is all upside
down and turned inside out.
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OK so basically
this is a topical view.
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>>How topical view.
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>>Helicopter view, and aerial
view of the sanctuary, kind of
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like a floor
plan of the sanctuary.
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And what we have going on here
is that, that God said make me a
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sanctuary that I
may dwell among them.
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The children of Israel are
camped out around the sanctuary
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and then there's one gate
of entrance here and the first.
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>>That's an important point.
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>>Yeah there's one door.
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>>There's one way in.
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>>That's right.
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That's reminiscent of course,
well not reminiscent going
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forward Jesus chapter 10
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>>If foreshadows
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>>Says I'm the door--you
gotta enter in through me.
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Well this one place that you can
enter--the sinner comes in here
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with his sacrifice--with
the lamb that he's bringing for
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sacrifice and the first article
of furniture is the--the alter
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of brass--ant that's where the
sacrifices were made, then you
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have this pool
called the lavor of washing.
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>Like a basin.
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>>Yes and the Priest would
interact with theú sinner here
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as confession was made and then
the animal sacrifice would be
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slain.
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And the blood, some of the blood
of the animal sacrifice would be
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caught in a bowl and then the
Priest would continue by moving
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into what was called the holy
place, the first apartment or
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room.
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>>this is actually a building,
we should say that we're looking
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down here but this outer
perimeter here is a courtyard.
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It's like an open-- It's like
a yard, part of your house but
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with a fence around it.
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>>It's a white fence.
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>>A white---but this is a
building--this is a building.
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>>And there's a roof over it.
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We've kind of removed the
roof and we're looking down in.
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And that holy place had
three articles of furniture.
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Here on the north side was
the table of show bread and over
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here was the candlestick--the
seven branch candlestick.
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And here, right before
this second veil, was the
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>>Alter of incense.
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>>Alter of incense.
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And what we were just talking
about is the fact that the way
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the whole thing was structured
is that there was a second
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apartment.
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There was a most holy place.
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It was in the shape of a perfect
cube and there was that one
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article of
furniture called the ark.
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The ark of the covenant.
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>>Which is the thing
you were just talking about.
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>>Yeah.
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>>With the two
cherubim, the mercy seat.
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>>Yeah and that's the place
where God said that's where I'll
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meet with you and speak to you
from between the two cherubim,
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above the mercy seat.
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That's where I'll be and
we sometimes refer to this,
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although this language is
not in scripture as the Shekinah
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glory--that is the visible,
radiant, glory of God was there,
00:29:11.40\00:29:16.50
between the cherubim and the
Priest would interact with God
00:29:16.50\00:29:20.83
here and it's just a beautiful,
kind of sand box illustration of
00:29:20.83\00:29:25.23
the entire plan of salvation.
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How God implements
covenant with his people.
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>>And just to give the quickest
illustration of how some of this
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complexity--and this, again,
just a sand box illustration.
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>>And not a good one at that.
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>>It's not bad
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>>Because I'm
drawing upside down.
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>>Actually quite good.
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It all points to Jesus so for
example, very quickly, the lamb
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was slain at the
alter, that reminds of Jesus.
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Jesus is the one who
washes us at the lavor.
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Jesus is the bread of
life, that reminds us of Christ.
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Jesus is the one that gives his
spirit, and the spirit was the
00:29:50.56\00:29:54.13
oil that's kept the
candlestick burning.
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Jesus' righteousness is the
incense of the, you know, the
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prayers.
00:30:01.70\00:30:02.73
We then pass through the veil.
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And Jesus himself is actually
called, his flesh is like the
00:30:04.83\00:30:08.70
veil--it says in the book of
Hebrews, then we come into the
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most holy place.
00:30:11.26\00:30:12.53
Jesus is actually in there, then
you have Jesus' covenant, you
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have the mercy seat,
which is Jesus' throne.
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So the whole thing.
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>>And the Ten Commandments.
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>>The Ten Commandments of course
are the very transcript of the
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loving character of God.
00:30:22.26\00:30:24.00
So the whole thing, and again,
this is a simple illustration--a
00:30:24.00\00:30:26.70
good one though.
00:30:26.70\00:30:30.56
Just points to the fact--the
whole thing is pointing towards
00:30:30.56\00:30:33.20
him who--we're gonna
discover in just a little bit.
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Him who is the covenant.
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>>yeah that's
right...that's right.
00:30:37.40\00:30:38.86
>>Him....so...so God is saying,
not only on the tablets of
00:30:38.86\00:30:40.96
stone....on the tablets of
covenant he's also---you could
00:30:40.96\00:30:43.16
call this the house of
the covenant--the house of the
00:30:43.16\00:30:45.23
relationship--the
house of---we'll meet here.
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>>Yeah, yeah.
00:30:47.43\00:30:48.56
>>Well beyond even the
furniture---what went on there?
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Yeah, what went
on in this sanctuary?
00:30:52.36\00:30:55.43
There's different participants
in this whole...this whole
00:30:55.43\00:30:59.00
illustration that God
gave and you have the lamb.
00:30:59.00\00:31:02.16
And the bible talks
about the lamb that's brought.
00:31:02.16\00:31:04.70
And I don't know ho...I don't
know how much detail weú want to
00:31:04.70\00:31:07.86
get into that in this discussion
but this lamb that's brought is
00:31:07.86\00:31:10.80
somehow going to illustrate to
humanity in a tangible way what
00:31:10.80\00:31:15.23
God is up to and what he--to
what lengths he will go to in
00:31:15.23\00:31:21.63
his covenant.
00:31:21.63\00:31:22.73
Isn't that the
purpose of the lamb?
00:31:22.73\00:31:24.76
>>Oh yeah, yeah.
00:31:24.76\00:31:26.06
Of course.
00:31:26.06\00:31:27.33
>> And that somehow is going to
reinforce in their minds, whoa.
00:31:27.33\00:31:29.70
Going back to what you said
about Abraham and the animal and
00:31:29.70\00:31:32.83
God's the one who walks through.
00:31:32.83\00:31:34.60
>>That's right.
00:31:34.60\00:31:35.86
>>And...and...OK so now we are
starting to get into a little
00:31:35.86\00:31:37.93
bit of the complexity
but I think it's alright.
00:31:37.93\00:31:39.96
Because you have not only the
furniture, not only the various
00:31:39.96\00:31:42.33
sacrifices of
which the lamb was one.
00:31:42.33\00:31:45.20
But then the whole sanctuary
system is based on a collendric
00:31:45.20\00:31:47.66
system.
00:31:47.66\00:31:49.06
There's a calendar--you'll keep
these three feasts in the Spring
00:31:49.06\00:31:51.86
and these three feasts in the
Fall and each of those feasts in
00:31:51.86\00:31:55.60
their own little unique details
point in some element to a
00:31:55.60\00:32:01.13
dimension of Christ's ministry.
00:32:01.13\00:32:04.40
So for example, one of the
feasts was called Yom Kipper or
00:32:04.40\00:32:08.13
the Day of Atonement...the Day
of Atonement--one of the feasts
00:32:08.13\00:32:12.76
was carried on out on the tenth
day of the seventh month and on
00:32:12.76\00:32:15.76
that day just listen to the
language--the Day of Atonement.
00:32:15.76\00:32:19.43
You divide that up it's
the day of at atonement.
00:32:19.43\00:32:22.60
And that's the point.
00:32:22.60\00:32:25.86
That's the point.
00:32:25.86\00:32:28.63
God longs for the rebellion in
the human heart, the iniquity in
00:32:28.63\00:32:30.33
the human heart, the selfishness
in the human heart to finally
00:32:30.33\00:32:32.40
and fully be eradicated so that
he can be at one with his---the
00:32:32.40\00:32:35.36
whole thing sometimes and I
think even in modern times our
00:32:35.36\00:32:40.03
Jewish friends have done this
very thing---we think that the
00:32:40.03\00:32:44.10
complexity is the point--the
furniture is the point--the
00:32:44.10\00:32:47.00
festival is the point.
00:32:47.00\00:32:48.96
That's not the point.
00:32:48.96\00:32:50.30
The point is God.
00:32:50.30\00:32:51.30
This is how we have a
relationship with God.
00:32:51.30\00:32:54.10
This is how we come into
communion and union and covenant
00:32:54.10\00:32:56.33
with him.
00:32:56.33\00:32:57.43
>>So the
synonyms for the word one.
00:32:57.43\00:32:58.76
>>yeah.
00:32:58.76\00:32:59.76
>>Synonyms---Community,
harmony, relationship.
00:32:59.76\00:33:01.66
So it's the day of relationship.
00:33:01.66\00:33:06.73
>>Yeah its the
feast of tabernacles.
00:33:06.73\00:33:07.93
I want to tabernacle with you.
00:33:07.93\00:33:09.33
Its the feast of Passover.
00:33:09.33\00:33:10.16
I want to pass over your sins.
00:33:10.16\00:33:11.46
I want to pass over those
iniquities through the blood of
00:33:11.46\00:33:14.96
the Lamb.
00:33:14.96\00:33:15.70
All of these.
00:33:15.70\00:33:16.70
>>The first fruits,
yeah--right down the list.
00:33:16.70\00:33:18.06
>>The whole sanctuary
service is pointed to Jesus.
00:33:18.06\00:33:21.00
And when you get to the New
Testament you're looking at the
00:33:21.00\00:33:23.80
bottom line foundation
at relationship with Christ.
00:33:23.80\00:33:25.83
I'm the way the
truth and the life.
00:33:25.83\00:33:27.10
But in the Old Testament Psalm
77 verse 13 says thy way oh God
00:33:27.10\00:33:32.06
is in the sanctuary.
00:33:32.06\00:33:34.33
>>Yeah that's so cool
James because here's the thing.
00:33:34.33\00:33:37.03
Back to this illustration--this
poor upside down illustration.
00:33:37.03\00:33:40.56
But I think you guys
can see that clearly.
00:33:40.56\00:33:42.80
>>Totally.
00:33:42.80\00:33:43.83
>>What James is
quoting here--this is powerful.
00:33:43.83\00:33:45.80
I'll just...I'll just--let me
see here different color--what's
00:33:45.80\00:33:49.86
happening here is Jesus says I'm
the way---He's the language way
00:33:49.86\00:33:56.50
which means path--journey.
00:33:56.50\00:33:57.93
And Psalm 77 verse 13 says
God's way is in the sanctuary.
00:33:57.93\00:34:03.83
The sanctuary illustrates
a way--a path--a journey.
00:34:03.83\00:34:07.30
And that journey is basically
a process of returning.
00:34:07.30\00:34:13.63
>>That's right.
00:34:13.63\00:34:14.73
>>To relationship with God.
00:34:14.73\00:34:15.80
>>That's right.
00:34:15.80\00:34:17.06
>>And it's consummated in the
symbolism related to the most
00:34:17.06\00:34:19.33
holy place--the Day of
Atonement--the day of unity--the
00:34:19.33\00:34:25.56
day where there is complete
reestablishment of relationship
00:34:25.56\00:34:27.83
with God with no veil between.
00:34:27.83\00:34:29.03
>>Yes.
00:34:29.03\00:34:30.03
>>We've moved through
a series of veils here.
00:34:30.03\00:34:31.43
And the most holy place--we have
to remember where we came from.
00:34:31.43\00:34:34.73
The most holy place that's where
the Ten Commandments is in the
00:34:34.73\00:34:37.36
Ark of the Covenant.
00:34:37.36\00:34:39.33
And that Ten Commandment
law of God represents in some
00:34:39.33\00:34:44.36
magnificence sense what a human
being looks like when they are
00:34:44.36\00:34:50.60
completely re-established
in relationship with God.
00:34:50.60\00:34:54.93
Love to God is
re-established--love to our
00:34:54.93\00:34:58.53
fellow human
beings is re-established.
00:34:58.53\00:35:02.80
God's love manifested in
that law--in a codeified form is
00:35:02.80\00:35:05.46
completely re-established.
00:35:05.46\00:35:07.36
God's law is written in
the heart and in the mind.
00:35:07.36\00:35:09.90
The new covenant is fulfilled
in that relationship that
00:35:09.90\00:35:16.30
consummates with the law of God
being perfectly re-established
00:35:16.30\00:35:19.36
inside of us.
00:35:19.36\00:35:20.46
>>Our hearts become the
stones that was written on.
00:35:20.46\00:35:22.46
>>Yeah.
00:35:22.46\00:35:23.73
>>And in Exodus, you know as you
go through the establishment of
00:35:23.73\00:35:26.83
the sanctuary and the different
perimeters and the different
00:35:26.83\00:35:30.00
measurements and the different
pieces of furniture etc. you get
00:35:30.00\00:35:33.03
to the very end and just as
you get to the end of all the
00:35:33.03\00:35:35.60
description that God
give to Moses to give to the
00:35:35.60\00:35:38.20
people---just as you prepared to
anoint the sanctuary for service
00:35:38.20\00:35:42.23
and inaugurate it--just there
in the last chapters--chapter
00:35:42.23\00:35:46.43
29--you come to the summary and
its really how we entered into
00:35:46.43\00:35:52.83
this whole understanding.
00:35:52.83\00:35:55.50
God introduced it this way
and then he closes out this way.
00:35:55.50\00:35:58.00
He says verse 44 of Exodus
chapter 29 I will sanctify the
00:35:58.00\00:36:03.46
tabernacle of the
congregation and the altar.
00:36:03.46\00:36:05.33
I will sanctify both, also both
Aaron and his sons to minister
00:36:05.33\00:36:08.90
to me in the Priests office and
I will dwell among the children
00:36:08.90\00:36:12.16
of Israel and will be their
God and verse 46 they shall know
00:36:12.16\00:36:17.60
that I am the Lord their God.
00:36:17.60\00:36:19.70
That brought them forth out
of the land of Egypt that I may
00:36:19.70\00:36:23.00
dwell among them.
00:36:23.00\00:36:25.26
I am the Lord their God.
00:36:25.26\00:36:27.66
>>OK I have to say
this...I have to say this.
00:36:27.66\00:36:31.76
That language is replicated
in John chapter 1 in the New
00:36:31.76\00:36:35.10
Testament when Jesus comes into
the world--the scripture says of
00:36:35.10\00:36:39.53
him in the New Testament John
1 verse 14 it says and the word
00:36:39.53\00:36:43.66
became flesh and the English
version says dwelt among us and
00:36:43.66\00:36:49.80
we beheld his glory in the
Greek it literally says the word
00:36:49.80\00:36:53.26
became flesh and
tabernacles among us.
00:36:53.26\00:36:56.66
And we beheld his glory which
is a direct reference to the
00:36:56.66\00:37:01.33
Shekinah glory above the
mercy seat between the cherubim.
00:37:01.33\00:37:06.03
Jesus is the complete
fulfillment of the symbolism of
00:37:06.03\00:37:08.96
the most holy
place of the sanctuary.
00:37:08.96\00:37:10.53
>>Which reminds me of something
else and that it that Solomon's
00:37:10.53\00:37:12.90
temple was glorious.
00:37:12.90\00:37:13.76
It was ruined.
00:37:13.76\00:37:15.23
It was taken down and another
temple was built in its place
00:37:15.23\00:37:18.33
years later.
00:37:18.33\00:37:19.60
And there were those present at
the inauguration of that second
00:37:19.60\00:37:21.86
temple which was the one that
Christ came to that remembered
00:37:21.86\00:37:24.76
the glory of the first temple.
00:37:24.76\00:37:26.13
They wept.
00:37:26.13\00:37:27.43
But God said I'm gonna fill the
second temple with more glory.
00:37:27.43\00:37:31.33
>>he said it would exceed.
00:37:31.33\00:37:32.93
>>Yes then the first temple and
that is the fulfillment of that
00:37:32.93\00:37:36.10
promise.
00:37:36.10\00:37:37.20
>>So how did he fill the
temple then?...with Jesus.
00:37:37.20\00:37:38.93
Jesus came as the more
glory...the more glorious
00:37:38.93\00:37:43.00
fulfillment of that promise.
00:37:43.00\00:37:47.23
>>The verse that comes to my
mind on this is the verse that
00:37:47.23\00:37:50.86
we quoted earlier in another
conversation in a different
00:37:50.86\00:37:53.03
context but it's so
awesome--Psalm 27 verse 4 one
00:37:53.03\00:37:55.76
thing that I have desired of the
Lord and that will I seek that I
00:37:55.76\00:37:59.86
may dwell in the house of the
Lord all the days of my life to
00:37:59.86\00:38:03.03
behold the beauty or the glory
of the Lord and to enquirer in
00:38:03.03\00:38:09.00
his temple.
00:38:09.00\00:38:10.26
So that coupled with---what did
you quote earlier Psalm 77:13?
00:38:10.26\00:38:14.10
>>13
00:38:14.10\00:38:15.30
>>Thy way oh Lord is in the
sanctuary and David says the
00:38:15.30\00:38:19.60
beauty of God is seen in
the sanctuary--the holiness, the
00:38:19.60\00:38:22.80
goodness, the love is
seen in the sanctuary.
00:38:22.80\00:38:25.40
>>Check this out David that
verse you just quoted in Psalm
00:38:25.40\00:38:28.36
27 verse 4 go to Psalm
63 and look at verse 2.
00:38:28.36\00:38:33.46
Verse 2 Psalm 63 verse 2 so I
have looked for you God--David
00:38:33.46\00:38:39.40
is saying I've looked for
you God in your sanctuary to see
00:38:39.40\00:38:42.86
your power and your glory
because your loving kindness is
00:38:42.86\00:38:47.93
better than life.
00:38:47.93\00:38:50.00
So here's what
David's anticipating.
00:38:50.00\00:38:52.10
>>Yes.
00:38:52.10\00:38:53.30
>>David is saying God I'm
searching--I'm looking for you
00:38:53.30\00:38:55.93
and so where am I
making this investigation?
00:38:55.93\00:38:58.10
Where am I making this inquiry
into the character of God?
00:38:58.10\00:39:02.60
In the sanctuary.
00:39:02.60\00:39:03.83
That's where I'm looking to
behold God's glory and in that
00:39:03.83\00:39:07.90
sanctuary I encounter your glory
and then he equates it with
00:39:07.90\00:39:12.63
God's love--God's loving
kindness and the word is there.
00:39:12.63\00:39:17.50
>>It's hesed.
00:39:17.50\00:39:20.30
>>It's hesed.
00:39:20.30\00:39:21.06
>>Beautiful.
00:39:21.06\00:39:22.26
>>It's the Old Testament
word for covenant faithfulness.
00:39:22.26\00:39:23.40
In the sanctuary I encounter
the covenant faithfulness of
00:39:23.40\00:39:25.50
God--David is saying.
00:39:25.50\00:39:27.40
>>Beautiful.
00:39:27.40\00:39:28.73
>>Yeah.
00:39:28.73\00:39:29.70
>>Love it.
00:39:29.70\00:39:31.16
>>We need to take
another break right now.
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>>These breaks
are painful at times.
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>>They're painful at times but
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>>Now with all of this really
good news--really beautiful
00:40:32.46\00:40:36.66
picture of the tablet of
the covenant...the tablet of the
00:40:36.66\00:40:42.40
covenant and the ark of the
covenant and the sanctuary which
00:40:42.40\00:40:44.36
is a covenant you would
think that the rest of the Old
00:40:44.36\00:40:46.50
Testament would be just one
grand story of victory after
00:40:46.50\00:40:50.13
victory and going
from excellence to greater
00:40:50.13\00:40:54.16
excellence.
00:40:54.16\00:40:56.80
But rather than being a grand
success story much of the Old
00:40:56.80\00:40:59.40
Testament often is a story of
broken promises and...and broken
00:40:59.40\00:41:04.00
covenant---not on God's part.
00:41:04.00\00:41:05.93
God never, ever, ever, ever
broke covenant with the children
00:41:05.93\00:41:10.16
of Israel.
00:41:10.16\00:41:11.40
The everlasting covenant was
always faithful on God's part.
00:41:11.40\00:41:13.73
But there was an unfaithfulness
on the part of those that were
00:41:13.73\00:41:17.23
responding to the covenant.
00:41:17.23\00:41:18.50
In fact we see it we don't even
get away from Mount Sinai before
00:41:18.50\00:41:21.66
the covenant is already broken
in an act of just tremendous
00:41:21.66\00:41:26.30
significance
pregnant with symbolism.
00:41:26.30\00:41:28.00
Moses comes from
down from the mountain.
00:41:28.00\00:41:30.86
The children of Israel because
Moses had seemingly been delayed
00:41:30.86\00:41:33.40
are dancing around the golden
calf--well known story and when
00:41:33.40\00:41:37.06
Moses sees this--this is a
violation of the covenant they
00:41:37.06\00:41:40.56
had promised, repeatedly
all that God has spoken we will
00:41:40.56\00:41:43.83
do...we will do...we will do.
00:41:43.83\00:41:45.90
And yet here they have violated
the very terms of the covenant
00:41:45.90\00:41:48.63
that they had agreed to.
00:41:48.63\00:41:49.93
Moses throws down the tablets of
stone, they smash, they shatter
00:41:49.93\00:41:54.80
into various pieces.
00:41:54.80\00:41:56.10
>>like an act .
00:41:56.10\00:41:57.20
>>As a symbol.
00:41:57.20\00:41:58.40
>>And acted.
00:41:58.40\00:41:59.66
>>The covenant's broken, if this
is--it would be like taking--if
00:41:59.66\00:42:02.36
this is the contract between
you and me--OK its the tearing
00:42:02.36\00:42:05.76
of--its over.
00:42:05.76\00:42:07.86
Now then God re-establishes and
that's much of the history of
00:42:07.86\00:42:12.06
the Old Testament.
00:42:12.06\00:42:13.30
Let's try...let's try...let's
try...let's try that...let's
00:42:13.30\00:42:16.43
try--it's just over and over
again and I just want to read a
00:42:16.43\00:42:18.90
passage to that affect Jeremiah
11 and I'll just read through
00:42:18.90\00:42:22.43
this quickly but just
feel the path loss of this.
00:42:22.43\00:42:24.73
This is now hundreds of years.
00:42:24.73\00:42:26.03
>>Jeremiah 11?
00:42:26.03\00:42:27.56
>>Yes Jeremiah 11 this is
now hundreds of years after this
00:42:27.56\00:42:29.66
beautiful establishment of a
beautiful covenant relationship
00:42:29.66\00:42:32.76
built around the sanctuary,
built around the...the Ten
00:42:32.76\00:42:36.90
Commandments.
00:42:36.90\00:42:38.16
Now listen to this Jeremiah
11 beginning in verse 1 the word
00:42:38.16\00:42:40.83
that came to Jeremiah from the
Lord saying hear the words of
00:42:40.83\00:42:44.90
this covenant and speak to
the men of Judah and to the
00:42:44.90\00:42:47.03
inhabitants of Jerusalem and say
to them thus says the Lord God
00:42:47.03\00:42:49.10
of Israel cursed is the man who
does not obey the words of this
00:42:49.10\00:42:52.80
covenant which I commanded
your fathers in the day that I
00:42:52.80\00:42:55.56
brought them out of the land
of Egypt from the iron furnace
00:42:55.56\00:42:58.13
saying obey my voice and do
according to all that I command
00:42:58.13\00:43:00.80
you and so you shall be
my people and I will be your
00:43:00.80\00:43:03.83
God--there's the refrain.
00:43:03.83\00:43:05.10
verse 5 that I may establish the
oath which I have sworn, which I
00:43:05.10\00:43:08.73
have promised to your fathers
to give them a land flowing with
00:43:08.73\00:43:12.13
milk and honey as
it is at this day.
00:43:12.13\00:43:13.70
And I answered...and I answered
and said so be it oh Lord.
00:43:13.70\00:43:17.30
Then the Lord said to me
proclaim in all these words in
00:43:17.30\00:43:21.00
the cities of Judah and in the
streets of Jerusalem saying hear
00:43:21.00\00:43:23.63
the words of this covenant and
do them for I earnestly exhorted
00:43:23.63\00:43:27.73
your fathers in the day that I
brought them out of the land of
00:43:27.73\00:43:30.26
Egypt until this day, rising
early and exhorting them saying
00:43:30.26\00:43:32.90
obey my voice.
00:43:32.90\00:43:33.96
Yet they did not obey
or incline their ear to me.
00:43:33.96\00:43:37.13
But everyone followed the
dictates of his evil heart.
00:43:37.13\00:43:40.30
Therefore I will bring upon them
all the words of this covenant
00:43:40.30\00:43:43.60
which I commanded them to do
but which they have not done.
00:43:43.60\00:43:48.73
Then it goes on--I mean that's
just the opening bit there of
00:43:48.73\00:43:52.03
Jeremiah 11.
00:43:52.03\00:43:52.93
>>you could just
feel God's heartbeat.
00:43:52.93\00:43:54.06
>>Oh his heart is broken.
00:43:54.06\00:43:55.63
>>This is really interesting
because you just read from
00:43:55.63\00:43:57.16
Jeremiah and Jeremiah's
lamenting of the fact that the
00:43:57.16\00:44:01.50
people of God haven't
been fulfilling the covenant.
00:44:01.50\00:44:04.43
But if you look at Daniel 9 in
Daniel 9 we find Daniel in his
00:44:04.43\00:44:11.53
prayer--and this is a beautiful
prayer--it's a long prayer but
00:44:11.53\00:44:14.46
it's a very emotional prayer and
it's powerful because in verse 2
00:44:14.46\00:44:18.66
and here's the connect...here's
the connect to everything you
00:44:18.66\00:44:22.90
said.
00:44:22.90\00:44:23.70
>>I'm ready.
00:44:23.70\00:44:25.63
>>In verse 2 Daniel says that
he understood by the books the
00:44:25.63\00:44:29.73
number of the year specified
by the word of the Lord through
00:44:29.73\00:44:33.40
Jeremiah the prophet.
00:44:33.40\00:44:34.96
So now Daniel is...is studying
the very...the very words of
00:44:34.96\00:44:40.36
Jeremiah which no doubt included
some of the stuff you were just
00:44:40.36\00:44:45.40
reading.
00:44:45.40\00:44:46.26
>>Of course.
00:44:46.26\00:44:47.50
>>And in his study of Jeremiah
he's lamenting the fact that
00:44:47.50\00:44:49.43
they're still in the same place.
00:44:49.43\00:44:51.80
And then he goes on in
this beautiful prayer...
00:44:51.80\00:44:54.06
but we're talking
about the covenant.
00:44:54.06\00:44:55.50
So check this out.
00:44:55.50\00:44:56.76
When you read here....man those
so much like verse 4 I pray to
00:44:56.76\00:45:01.70
the Lord my God and made
confession and said Oh Lord
00:45:01.70\00:45:04.80
great and awesome God
who keeps his...his covenant.
00:45:04.80\00:45:12.03
>>I'm just going
to stop right there.
00:45:12.03\00:45:13.80
That's the first thing he says.
00:45:13.80\00:45:15.36
In other words in Daniel's
prayer the first thing that
00:45:15.36\00:45:17.43
comes to his mind is God
you're the covenant keeper.
00:45:17.43\00:45:19.90
>>That's powerful.
00:45:19.90\00:45:21.36
..that's powerful so he
mention the covenant...God's the
00:45:21.36\00:45:24.80
covenant keeper who
and...and..and he has mercy with
00:45:24.80\00:45:27.80
those who loves him, with
those who keep his commandments.
00:45:27.80\00:45:29.96
And then verse 5 the reality--we
and aren't you glad he says we
00:45:29.96\00:45:35.83
and not God these
people are a bunch of sinners.
00:45:35.83\00:45:38.96
God your church--he doesn't go
pointing fingers he says we...we
00:45:38.96\00:45:44.56
he includes himself we have
sinned and committed iniquity.
00:45:44.56\00:45:48.66
We have done
wickedly and rebelled.
00:45:48.66\00:45:51.03
And then he says
how have they rebelled?
00:45:51.03\00:45:56.93
They departed from him precepts
and from his judgments neither
00:45:56.93\00:46:02.00
have we heeded your
servants the prophets.
00:46:02.00\00:46:05.23
And this is leading to the point
I'm about to make here who spoke
00:46:05.23\00:46:08.06
in your name to our kings,
our princes, our fathers and our
00:46:08.06\00:46:11.00
land.
00:46:11.00\00:46:12.80
And so the point here is that
I think a fair summary the Old
00:46:12.80\00:46:16.40
Testament is as you were saying
prophet after prophet after
00:46:16.40\00:46:20.43
prophet after prophet being sent
to God's people to woo them into
00:46:20.43\00:46:25.20
covenant faithfulness with God.
00:46:25.20\00:46:28.33
And so in summary you can say in
Exodus is God trying to get his
00:46:28.33\00:46:33.00
people out of Egypt and the rest
of the story is him trying to
00:46:33.00\00:46:37.83
get Egypt out of his people.
00:46:37.83\00:46:39.16
Jeffrey check this out.
00:46:39.16\00:46:42.26
[Laughter]
00:46:42.26\00:46:42.86
>>Yeah that's good.
00:46:43.56\00:46:44.33
That's good.
00:46:44.33\00:46:45.36
>>Amen I love that.
00:46:45.36\00:46:46.53
>>He wasn't always....they
weren't always wooing those
00:46:46.53\00:46:49.26
prophets
00:46:49.26\00:46:49.90
>>No.
00:46:49.90\00:46:50.83
>>I mean there
were....'cause sometimes.
00:46:50.83\00:46:51.90
>>And he had to---and
they were killed obviously.
00:46:51.90\00:46:53.60
>>Yeah.
00:46:53.60\00:46:54.60
>>Sometimes they had
some very strong language.
00:46:54.60\00:46:55.53
Go ahead Ty.
00:46:55.53\00:46:56.30
>>Jeffrey--Daniel chapter 9.
00:46:56.30\00:46:58.33
>>Yes of course.
00:46:58.33\00:47:00.53
>>Daniel chapter 9 brother.
00:47:00.53\00:47:01.50
>>Of course.
00:47:01.50\00:47:02.66
>>So you've got all this
language early on in the chapter
00:47:02.66\00:47:05.03
about the fact that God is
faithful to the covenant but the
00:47:05.03\00:47:08.80
people--the word is used
in verse 7--are unfaithful.
00:47:08.80\00:47:12.16
Alright, then there's
this remarkable prophecy.
00:47:12.16\00:47:16.06
This is the premier Old
Testament, Messianic prophecy in
00:47:16.06\00:47:21.96
which the coming
of the faithful one.
00:47:21.96\00:47:25.63
>>That's right.
00:47:25.63\00:47:26.76
>>Is foretold.
00:47:26.76\00:47:28.50
You come down to verse 24-70
weeks are determined for your
00:47:28.50\00:47:31.93
people and for your holy
city and then there's a list of
00:47:31.93\00:47:36.73
things.
00:47:36.73\00:47:37.96
Notice this to finish the
transgression, to make an end of
00:47:37.96\00:47:43.03
sins, to make reconciliation
for the people, to make
00:47:43.03\00:47:44.83
reconciliation, to bring in
everlasting righteousness, to
00:47:44.83\00:47:48.16
seal up the vision of the
prophecy, and to anoint the most
00:47:48.16\00:47:51.33
holy.
00:47:51.33\00:47:52.73
T His is so amazing.
00:47:52.73\00:47:54.80
>>Six things.
00:47:54.80\00:47:55.80
>>Yeah.
00:47:55.80\00:47:56.90
Yeah so then notice this
the Messiah is then foretold
00:47:56.90\00:48:00.50
alright.
00:48:00.50\00:48:02.36
5 Know therefore and understand,
v verse 25 that from the going
00:48:02.36\00:48:06.03
forth of the command to restore
and build Jerusalem until what?
00:48:06.03\00:48:09.00
>>Messiah the Prince.
00:48:09.00\00:48:10.63
>>Messiah the Prince.
00:48:10.63\00:48:11.90
There shall be 7 weeks and 62
weeks the streets shall be built
00:48:11.90\00:48:16.43
again and the wall, even in
troublous times and here it is
00:48:16.43\00:48:19.66
verse 26 And after 62 weeks
Messiah shall be cut off but not
00:48:19.66\00:48:26.43
for himself...cut
off but not for himself.
00:48:26.43\00:48:31.06
And the people of the Prince
who is to come shall destroy the
00:48:31.06\00:48:35.13
city and the sanctuary, the end
of it shall be with a flood, and
00:48:35.13\00:48:39.06
s are determined
00:48:39.06\00:48:42.73
till the end of the war
00:48:39.06\00:48:42.73
desolation
00:48:39.06\00:48:42.73
verse 27 now then he shall
that is the Messiah, confirm the
00:48:42.73\00:48:46.73
covenant with many for one week
but in the midst of the week he
00:48:46.73\00:48:52.16
shall bring an end to
sacrifice an offering.
00:48:52.16\00:48:55.50
This is amazing.
00:48:55.50\00:48:57.70
This prophecy is.
00:48:57.70\00:48:58.90
>>When you called in the premier
Messianic prophecy that is
00:48:58.90\00:49:01.10
exactly the right language.
00:49:01.10\00:49:03.13
>>So what's happening
here is in the context of the
00:49:03.13\00:49:06.03
unfaithfulness of Israel God
then says I've been faithful all
00:49:06.03\00:49:12.43
along.
00:49:12.43\00:49:13.70
I'll continue to be faithful and
I'm going to go a step further
00:49:13.70\00:49:17.53
God says.
00:49:17.53\00:49:18.80
I'm going to actually come into
human history in the Messiah and
00:49:18.80\00:49:22.20
all of this list of things
will be fulfilled in Messiah.
00:49:22.20\00:49:27.63
Jesus was the one all along
who was to come and fulfill the
00:49:27.63\00:49:34.76
covenant, not only from the
divine end but from the human
00:49:34.76\00:49:39.26
end.
00:49:39.26\00:49:40.53
Now Jesus comes and he is cut
off reminiscent of the chapter
00:49:40.53\00:49:45.20
15 was it?
00:49:45.20\00:49:47.56
In Genesis where
the animal sacrifice was
00:49:47.56\00:49:50.30
>>Cut in two.
00:49:50.30\00:49:51.73
>>Severed in two and God in the
form of a flaming torch of fire
00:49:51.73\00:49:55.03
passed between the pieces.
00:49:55.03\00:49:56.33
Here's the same basic concept of
severing and cutting and there's
00:49:56.33\00:50:00.46
going to be a terrible suffering
that is going to be under gone
00:50:00.46\00:50:05.00
by the Messiah in
order to keep covenant.
00:50:05.00\00:50:08.66
>>Go back even earlier to
Genesis 3 we're introduced to
00:50:08.66\00:50:11.16
the deliverer and the first
thing we learn about him is that
00:50:11.16\00:50:14.16
he will bear a woundedness.
00:50:14.16\00:50:15.33
>>That's right.
00:50:15.33\00:50:16.13
>>So keep going.
00:50:16.13\00:50:17.40
>>So then in verse 27 the whole
point of his sacrifice which by
00:50:17.40\00:50:21.93
the way in verse
26 is not for himself.
00:50:21.93\00:50:24.16
>>That's right.
00:50:24.16\00:50:25.83
>>It's for us.
00:50:25.83\00:50:26.96
This is..this is another
censored love that is expressed
00:50:26.96\00:50:29.70
here.
00:50:29.70\00:50:30.60
Jesus is dieing for us.
00:50:30.60\00:50:32.63
>>there are
violations of the covenant.
00:50:32.63\00:50:35.30
>>That's right.
00:50:35.30\00:50:36.50
And he dies on the cross for
the purpose of confirming the
00:50:36.50\00:50:39.13
covenant--fulfilling the
covenant, being faithful to the
00:50:39.13\00:50:43.03
covenant.
00:50:43.03\00:50:44.73
That's the context of this..this
prayer..this lament in Daniel
00:50:44.73\00:50:49.50
chapter 9.
00:50:49.50\00:50:50.73
>>Sir Isaac Newton called
this the foundation stone of the
00:50:50.73\00:50:53.20
christian religion.
00:50:53.20\00:50:54.60
I mean this is just.
00:50:54.60\00:50:56.00
>>Daniel 9?
00:50:56.00\00:50:56.66
>>Yeah Daniel 9.
00:50:56.66\00:50:57.90
He said this, Sir Isaac Newton
said this is the foundation
00:50:57.90\00:50:59.40
stone of the christian religion.
00:50:59.40\00:51:00.66
This is and this is probably
one of the most misunderstood
00:51:00.66\00:51:03.23
prophecies.
00:51:03.23\00:51:04.30
>>Yeah.
00:51:04.30\00:51:05.56
>>Of all time and yet one of the
most crucial prophecies of all
00:51:05.56\00:51:08.20
time for us to understand.
00:51:08.20\00:51:09.63
>>Well it's the one that Satan
would want to hurl his most
00:51:09.63\00:51:12.23
subtle and terrible attacks
against because it is such a
00:51:12.23\00:51:15.53
grand and beautiful
picture of who the Messiah is.
00:51:15.53\00:51:18.13
>>Not just in Christ's day.
00:51:18.13\00:51:20.63
Not just in Old Testament
misunderstanding but even today.
00:51:20.63\00:51:23.46
>>Yeah that's what I'm
saying...that's what I'm saying
00:51:23.46\00:51:25.66
even today.
00:51:25.66\00:51:26.90
The whole disspensational
and we're not talking about that
00:51:26.90\00:51:28.50
here but the mis-has basically
taken this prophecy, a beautiful
00:51:28.50\00:51:32.23
grand illumination.
00:51:32.23\00:51:33.30
>>Of Christ.
00:51:33.30\00:51:34.66
>>Christ and his covenant
faithfulness and turned it into
00:51:34.66\00:51:36.30
and anti-Christ thing and a
dispensational it's just not
00:51:36.30\00:51:38.83
there.
00:51:38.83\00:51:40.03
>>Which is interesting because
that's the same thing that
00:51:40.03\00:51:41.93
happened to the sanctuary.
00:51:41.93\00:51:43.20
The sanctuary service which God
desired, designed that we would
00:51:43.20\00:51:47.60
see as an illustration of Christ
and the plan of salvation was
00:51:47.60\00:51:51.10
completely
misunderstood--misinterpreted.
00:51:51.10\00:51:53.10
IN fact God came to the place in
the Old Testament where he says
00:51:53.10\00:51:56.70
you know I am sick and tired of
your sacrifices--of your burnt
00:51:56.70\00:51:59.46
offerings.
00:51:59.46\00:52:01.16
They are a stench to my nose.
00:52:01.16\00:52:02.70
I can't stand them anymore.
00:52:02.70\00:52:03.76
>>Yeah that's right.
00:52:03.76\00:52:04.86
>>What are they?
00:52:04.86\00:52:06.10
>> Numerous times in the Old
Testament he says sacrifice an
00:52:06.10\00:52:08.46
offering is not
what I was after.
00:52:08.46\00:52:09.66
The point wasn't the details.
00:52:09.66\00:52:11.33
It was...you missed the message.
00:52:11.33\00:52:13.73
>>I can't help but think that
God is saying the same things
00:52:13.73\00:52:17.53
bout some of our interpretations
of end time prophecy today.
00:52:17.53\00:52:19.53
>>Well certainly Daniel 9.
00:52:19.53\00:52:20.80
>>The way that we apply--the way
that we focus on prophecy and
00:52:20.80\00:52:22.46
make it all about doom
and gloom and not about Jesus
00:52:22.46\00:52:24.26
>>Yep.
00:52:24.26\00:52:25.46
>>I can't help.
00:52:25.46\00:52:26.80
>>Preach it preacher.
00:52:26.80\00:52:27.90
>>I can't help but to
think God feels the same way.
00:52:27.90\00:52:29.20
If we can get Christ back
into this which is what I really
00:52:29.20\00:52:31.30
appreciate about
this whole focus.
00:52:31.30\00:52:32.66
It's all about Messiah and
when Messiah becomes center then
00:52:32.66\00:52:36.06
there's something.
00:52:36.06\00:52:37.20
>>James you're quite
the Daniel 11 Ephisianoto.
00:52:37.20\00:52:43.10
You're very
comfortable with that.
00:52:43.10\00:52:44.36
Where is it in Daniel 11 that
Jesus is called the Prince of
00:52:44.36\00:52:45.96
the covenant?
00:52:45.96\00:52:47.70
>>Well it's beautiful really
because Daniel 11 is just repeat
00:52:47.70\00:52:50.23
enlarge on Daniel chapter 9,
Daniel 8, Daniel, 7, Daniel 2.
00:52:50.23\00:52:51.90
So right dead in the
middle, Daniel 11 has 45 verses.
00:52:51.90\00:52:56.33
I mean officially it has 45.
00:52:56.33\00:52:58.13
We can include the 3 verses
in Daniel 12, the first 3 but
00:52:58.13\00:53:00.63
Daniel 11:45 right in the
middle--half way--20 to 22
00:53:00.63\00:53:04.93
focus, pin point Messiah It
talks in verse 20 about this
00:53:04.93\00:53:09.13
razor of taxes standing up in
the glory of the kingdom and his
00:53:09.13\00:53:13.50
estate.
00:53:13.50\00:53:14.80
This is historically this is
pinpointing the prophecy and the
00:53:14.80\00:53:17.43
prophetic time of
Pagan Rome--of Imperial Rome.
00:53:17.43\00:53:21.63
And this razor of taxes
is talked about in the New
00:53:21.63\00:53:25.46
Testament.
00:53:25.46\00:53:26.43
>>In the gospels.
00:53:26.43\00:53:27.70
>>Luke chapter 3 this is Augusta
Ceaser who or Luke chapter 2 who
00:53:27.70\00:53:30.66
initiated and then right after
Augusta Ceasar, when Jesus is
00:53:30.66\00:53:34.16
born.
00:53:34.16\00:53:35.40
You have a vile person, that's
Tiberius Ceaser verse 21 and
00:53:35.40\00:53:37.86
then verse 22 with the
arms of the flood shall they be
00:53:37.86\00:53:42.00
overflown from beforehand by
Tiberius and shall be broken or
00:53:42.00\00:53:44.80
Ceaser I should say.
00:53:44.80\00:53:47.10
Yes also the
Prince of the covenant.
00:53:47.10\00:53:49.23
So here is a focus on
the Prince of the covenant.
00:53:49.23\00:53:52.53
It is none other
than Jesus Christ.
00:53:52.53\00:53:54.23
>>And does it
say he'll be broken?
00:53:54.23\00:53:55.90
>>He'll be broken .
00:53:55.90\00:53:57.50
>>That's--he'll be cut off.
00:53:57.50\00:53:59.26
>>Yes.
00:53:59.26\00:54:00.43
>>The Prince of the covenant
will come and be broken.
00:54:00.43\00:54:01.40
>>This is the cross.
00:54:01.40\00:54:02.40
This is the cross.
00:54:02.40\00:54:03.73
>>Broken and cut
off but not for himself.
00:54:03.73\00:54:05.43
>>I'll go a step further in
a prophecy in Isaiah 42 verse 6
00:54:05.43\00:54:08.30
literally Jesus is called, not
just the Prince of the covenant.
00:54:08.30\00:54:13.36
He doesn't just
confirm the covenant.
00:54:13.36\00:54:16.83
Here the father is speaking and
he says to Jesus to Messiah I
00:54:16.83\00:54:20.90
the Lord have called you in
righteousness and will hold your
00:54:20.90\00:54:25.60
hand because your going to go
through this horrible ordeal of
00:54:25.60\00:54:28.33
sacrifice.
00:54:28.33\00:54:29.40
I'm gonna be with you.
00:54:29.40\00:54:30.66
I will keep you and I will give
you as a covenant to the people.
00:54:30.66\00:54:35.53
Jesus is the covenant in
a personified form, to use
00:54:35.53\00:54:40.93
s language.
00:54:40.93\00:54:43.16
Jeffery
00:54:40.93\00:54:43.16
>>I love that.
00:54:43.16\00:54:46.26
I love that.
00:54:46.26\00:54:47.16
>>Jesus is the covenant.
00:54:47.16\00:54:48.93
He not only preaches the
covenant, he not only keeps the
00:54:48.93\00:54:50.50
covenant, he is the covenant.
00:54:50.50\00:54:52.46
He is the means by which and I
think this is where we're going
00:54:52.46\00:54:55.56
in fact I know
it's where we're going.
00:54:55.56\00:54:58.60
God's been faithful that's
the Old Testament constantly
00:54:58.60\00:54:59.70
extending himself,
extending himself .
00:54:59.70\00:55:01.16
He's faithful.
00:55:01.16\00:55:02.30
He's never failed to
keep his half of the covenant.
00:55:02.30\00:55:04.16
The rain keeps falling.
00:55:04.16\00:55:05.76
The sun keeps shining.
00:55:05.76\00:55:07.40
The heart keeps beating.
00:55:07.40\00:55:08.50
God is faithful in all of
these natural ways and the
00:55:08.50\00:55:09.83
supernatural ways.
00:55:09.83\00:55:11.10
But men fail, fail, fail,
Jeremiah, the prophets are come
00:55:11.10\00:55:14.83
back to the covenant.
00:55:14.83\00:55:16.10
The covenant breach is so bad
that Babylon finally and other
00:55:16.10\00:55:20.23
nations take them captive and
there's just this basically you
00:55:20.23\00:55:23.40
wouldn't call it a punitive
recourse but you would say they
00:55:23.40\00:55:26.90
placed themselves so far outside
of God's protective domain that
00:55:26.90\00:55:31.73
this is what happened.
00:55:31.73\00:55:33.00
We end up in that situation and
then as we draw the thing to a
00:55:33.00\00:55:37.20
close Jesus comes not just God
as God being faithful but Jesus
00:55:37.20\00:55:42.46
becomes a man and he is faithful
and he extends the hand so
00:55:42.46\00:55:45.10
that--you've mentioned this
in >fact, maybe we could just
00:55:45.10\00:55:49.00
quickly go there.
00:55:49.00\00:55:50.70
What's the passage that you
have in Hebrews where Jesus is.
00:55:50.70\00:55:53.96
>>7.
00:55:53.96\00:55:54.80
>>7 Hebrews 7:22
00:55:54.80\00:55:55.73
>>Yeah, yeah that's
one of my favorites.
00:55:55.73\00:55:58.43
>>Land that here.
00:55:58.43\00:55:59.63
>>Hebrews 7:22 paints the
picture here of Jesus--you were
00:55:59.63\00:56:03.70
saying he was the
personification of the covenant
00:56:03.70\00:56:06.76
but in Hebrews 7:22
it says the word surety
00:56:06.76\00:56:09.73
It says by so much more Jesus
has become a surety of a better
00:56:09.73\00:56:15.53
covenant.
00:56:15.53\00:56:16.53
And the word surety
there he's the guarantee.
00:56:16.53\00:56:18.40
>>Yes.
00:56:18.40\00:56:19.83
>>But the thing here is that in
Hebrews 7 Jesus is the God man.
00:56:19.83\00:56:24.53
Jesus has come into this race,
become a human being and with
00:56:24.53\00:56:29.13
one hand he holds the hand
of the Father and with the other
00:56:29.13\00:56:32.83
hand he's..he's holding onto
the hands of the human race.
00:56:32.83\00:56:36.96
And he's the connecting link and
Jesus is the guarantee to us--to
00:56:36.96\00:56:40.73
the human race that God will be
faithful in his side--in his end
00:56:40.73\00:56:46.13
of the covenant.
00:56:46.13\00:56:47.40
But Jesus is also the guarantee
to God from man that humanity
00:56:47.40\00:56:50.56
will fulfill the covenant.
00:56:50.56\00:56:53.43
Jesus becomes the guarantee both
on the God side and the human
00:56:53.43\00:56:59.30
side.
00:56:59.30\00:57:00.23
That's awesome.
00:57:00.23\00:57:01.10
>>He's the way the
truth and the life.
00:57:01.10\00:57:03.66
>>And we need that because
who among us here or who that's
00:57:03.66\00:57:06.93
listening in has not made some
promise to God about something
00:57:06.93\00:57:10.53
they would do or wouldn't do?
00:57:10.53\00:57:12.60
Right and you might not say God
I promise--it might not be in
00:57:12.60\00:57:15.93
that language but it can be
mental, it can be more subtle--I
00:57:15.93\00:57:20.26
will never blank again or I will
again--a vow, a promise and then
00:57:20.26\00:57:22.70
it falls apart.
00:57:22.70\00:57:23.66
Alright it
doesn't always fall apart.
00:57:23.66\00:57:25.50
It doesn't have to.
00:57:25.50\00:57:26.73
But it--our promises and our
resolutions cannot redeem us,
00:57:26.73\00:57:29.56
they cannot save us, they
cannot reconnect us to God.
00:57:29.56\00:57:31.80
So Christ is
faithful on our behalf.
00:57:31.80\00:57:34.86
And as we're going to get
into our next conversation on
00:57:34.86\00:57:38.16
incarnation on Christ becoming a
human being and the infleshment
00:57:38.16\00:57:42.40
of the covenants we're going to
see that our responsibility is
00:57:42.40\00:57:46.73
to believe in the faithfulness
of Christ of the covenant and as
00:57:46.73\00:57:52.70
the covenant.
00:57:52.70\00:57:54.03
>>Praise God and...and...and
this is a great place to land
00:57:54.03\00:57:56.43
this thing.
00:57:56.43\00:57:57.70
I'm personally deeply impressed
and blessed by the scriptures
00:57:57.70\00:58:02.70
that we've looked at and just
having the idea reaffirmed-in my
00:58:02.70\00:58:08.36
mind that it's not about me.
00:58:08.36\00:58:10.66
>>Yes.
00:58:10.66\00:58:11.96
>>Keeping faith with God.
00:58:11.96\00:58:13.66
s all about him keeping
00:58:13.66\00:58:16.26
It
00:58:13.66\00:58:16.26
faith with me and my
00:58:13.66\00:58:16.26
faithfulness is basically
a returning to him >Response.
00:58:16.26\00:58:20.06
>>Yeah, yeah, so beautiful.
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