Welcome back. 00:00:11.01\00:00:13.64 Have you been enjoying our study together? 00:00:13.68\00:00:16.78 Praise the Lord. 00:00:16.81\00:00:18.88 Well, we're gonna do part two 00:00:18.91\00:00:21.55 of the subject "A Judas in the church." 00:00:21.58\00:00:26.35 Sounds kind of strange doesn't it, 00:00:26.39\00:00:27.72 Judas in the church? 00:00:27.76\00:00:29.82 This presentation is quite long. 00:00:29.86\00:00:33.23 I'm gonna do my best to cover all the material. 00:00:33.26\00:00:35.36 We might have to synthesize some things. 00:00:35.40\00:00:38.40 But let's attempt to do as much as we can. 00:00:38.43\00:00:42.27 But before we do, we wanna pray. 00:00:42.30\00:00:44.91 Father in heaven, as we study part two 00:00:44.94\00:00:47.28 of this very important subject, A Judas in the Church, 00:00:47.31\00:00:51.21 we ask for the guidance of Your Holy Spirit 00:00:51.25\00:00:53.35 and the willingness to embrace the truth 00:00:53.38\00:00:56.85 as you express it in Your Word. 00:00:56.89\00:00:59.15 Thank You Father 00:00:59.19\00:01:00.52 for the promise of Your presence, 00:01:00.56\00:01:01.89 we claim that promise in the precious name of Jesus, 00:01:01.92\00:01:05.46 amen. 00:01:05.49\00:01:08.13 In our first study together, 00:01:08.16\00:01:09.50 we discussed the emergence of the man of sin. 00:01:09.53\00:01:13.50 We noticed that the spirit of the Antichrist 00:01:13.54\00:01:16.60 was already manifesting itself 00:01:16.64\00:01:18.74 in the days of the Apostle Paul. 00:01:18.77\00:01:21.31 It was already operational, 00:01:21.34\00:01:23.85 but it was under the radar. 00:01:23.88\00:01:27.08 It could not be openly seen. 00:01:27.12\00:01:29.95 But the Apostle Paul was saying that the time would come 00:01:29.98\00:01:33.19 when that which was concealed 00:01:33.22\00:01:35.86 even in his day would be revealed. 00:01:35.89\00:01:40.20 Now the question is, 00:01:40.23\00:01:41.56 why didn't this man of sin manifest himself 00:01:41.60\00:01:45.87 openly in the days of the Apostle Paul? 00:01:45.90\00:01:49.14 Well, 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 00:01:49.17\00:01:53.48 tell us why this man of sin did not manifest himself openly 00:01:53.51\00:01:59.38 but his spirit was already wanting to manifest itself 00:01:59.41\00:02:02.98 in the days of the Apostle Paul. 00:02:03.02\00:02:05.02 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 00:02:05.05\00:02:07.69 tells us that something was restraining the man of sin. 00:02:07.72\00:02:12.56 Someone was restraining this man of sin 00:02:12.59\00:02:16.30 from being able to openly reveal himself. 00:02:16.33\00:02:20.64 It says in 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7, 00:02:20.67\00:02:24.51 the Apostle Paul says to Thessalonians, 00:02:24.54\00:02:26.74 "And now you know what is restraining", 00:02:26.78\00:02:30.25 by the way that is neuter in Greek. 00:02:30.28\00:02:32.85 It's something not someone at this point. 00:02:32.88\00:02:36.92 So it says now you know what is restraining that he, 00:02:36.95\00:02:42.92 now this is masculine, 00:02:42.96\00:02:45.03 masculine, he, individual, 00:02:45.06\00:02:47.23 "That he may be revealed in his own time." 00:02:47.26\00:02:51.43 So you notice there's something that was restraining, 00:02:51.47\00:02:55.74 what? 00:02:55.77\00:02:57.11 And there was someone that was restraining, 00:02:57.14\00:02:59.51 who? 00:02:59.54\00:03:00.94 It continues saying in verse 7, the Apostle Paul, 00:03:00.98\00:03:03.81 "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work." 00:03:03.85\00:03:07.88 See, it was already at work in his day. 00:03:07.92\00:03:10.49 Only he who now restraints, 00:03:10.52\00:03:14.89 which we notice that it's a what as well, 00:03:14.92\00:03:16.86 it's a he and a what, that's important. 00:03:16.89\00:03:19.79 He who now restrains 00:03:19.83\00:03:21.96 will do so until he is what? 00:03:22.00\00:03:26.07 Is taken out of the way. 00:03:26.10\00:03:29.34 So in other words, there was something 00:03:29.37\00:03:30.91 in the days of the Apostle Paul 00:03:30.94\00:03:32.87 that was restraining this man of sin 00:03:32.91\00:03:35.71 from openly manifesting himself. 00:03:35.74\00:03:38.98 It was a what, 00:03:39.01\00:03:41.05 and it was a he and the question is, 00:03:41.08\00:03:44.62 what was it? 00:03:44.65\00:03:46.59 The bottom line folks is that at this time, 00:03:46.62\00:03:50.29 the Roman emperors, 00:03:50.33\00:03:53.50 this is the he, ruled over the Roman empire 00:03:53.53\00:03:59.10 and the man of sin could not occupy the throne 00:03:59.13\00:04:03.30 of the empire 00:04:03.34\00:04:04.67 unless the one who occupied the throne at that time 00:04:04.71\00:04:08.14 would be removed first. 00:04:08.18\00:04:11.71 So that he is the emperor 00:04:11.75\00:04:14.85 and the what was restraining was what? 00:04:14.88\00:04:18.19 Was the empire over which the emperor ruled. 00:04:18.22\00:04:22.52 Romans 13:4 is a very important verse, 00:04:22.56\00:04:26.26 it speaks about who was ruling at that time. 00:04:26.29\00:04:29.80 Here the Apostle Paul says, 00:04:29.83\00:04:32.27 for he, speaking about the Roman empire, 00:04:32.30\00:04:35.80 he's speaking about the emperor 00:04:35.84\00:04:37.41 but he's not talking about one specific emperor, 00:04:37.44\00:04:39.51 he's talking about a succession of emperors. 00:04:39.54\00:04:42.24 He says, "For he is God's minister 00:04:42.28\00:04:45.51 to you for good. 00:04:45.55\00:04:46.98 But if you do evil, be afraid for he," 00:04:47.02\00:04:50.02 that is the civil authority, 00:04:50.05\00:04:51.62 "does not bear the sword in vain. 00:04:51.65\00:04:54.09 For he", the civil authority, "is God's minister, 00:04:54.12\00:04:57.83 an avenger to execute wrath on him 00:04:57.86\00:05:00.80 who practices evil." 00:05:00.83\00:05:02.16 Now when it says that he executes, 00:05:02.20\00:05:04.93 you know, wrath on him who practices evil. 00:05:04.97\00:05:09.20 Is the word him they're referring to one individual? 00:05:09.24\00:05:13.01 No, it means to whoever practices evil. 00:05:13.04\00:05:16.24 So when it says here 00:05:16.28\00:05:17.71 that he is God's minister for your good, 00:05:17.75\00:05:22.18 he does not bear the sword in vain, 00:05:22.22\00:05:24.32 It's not talking about specific individual, 00:05:24.35\00:05:26.55 it's talking about all of the emperor's of Rome 00:05:26.59\00:05:30.13 that bear the sword to preserve the civil order. 00:05:30.16\00:05:34.46 Now the question is, 00:05:34.50\00:05:36.00 what is it that release the man of sin? 00:05:36.03\00:05:39.43 What is it that took away the restraint 00:05:39.47\00:05:41.74 from the man of sin, 00:05:41.77\00:05:43.10 so the man of sin could openly reveal himself, 00:05:43.14\00:05:46.27 come from under the radar, and openly proclaim himself? 00:05:46.31\00:05:52.18 The answer is found in Daniel 7:23-24, 00:05:52.21\00:05:57.19 the prophecy to which the Apostle Paul is referring. 00:05:57.22\00:06:00.29 Daniel 7:23-24, 00:06:00.32\00:06:04.36 "Thus he said, 00:06:04.39\00:06:05.99 'The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, 00:06:06.03\00:06:09.96 which shall be different from all other kingdoms, 00:06:10.00\00:06:12.47 and shall devour the whole earth trample it, 00:06:12.50\00:06:15.60 and break it in pieces.'" 00:06:15.64\00:06:17.07 Which kingdom is that? 00:06:17.11\00:06:19.11 The Roman empire. 00:06:19.14\00:06:20.98 Was that the empire that was ruling in Paul's day? 00:06:21.01\00:06:23.95 Yes. 00:06:23.98\00:06:25.31 So is Daniel 7:23 on the same page 00:06:25.35\00:06:29.78 as 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2, same time frame? 00:06:29.82\00:06:33.02 Absolutely. 00:06:33.05\00:06:34.39 But now notice what was gonna happen to the empire. 00:06:34.42\00:06:36.93 It says in verse 24, 00:06:36.96\00:06:38.39 "The ten horns are ten kings or kingdoms 00:06:38.43\00:06:41.53 that shall arise from this kingdom." 00:06:41.56\00:06:44.03 In other words, 00:06:44.07\00:06:45.40 the fourth empire was going to be what? 00:06:45.43\00:06:47.94 Was going to be divided 00:06:47.97\00:06:50.34 and when the empire was divided, 00:06:50.37\00:06:52.51 it says, "And another shall rise after them." 00:06:52.54\00:06:56.51 So in other words, a little horn 00:06:56.54\00:06:59.61 does not specifically exist in the days of Paul 00:06:59.65\00:07:02.35 but it's going to rise 00:07:02.38\00:07:04.02 after the Roman empire is dismembered. 00:07:04.05\00:07:06.65 Are you with me or not? 00:07:06.69\00:07:08.46 So it says, "Another will rise after them, 00:07:08.49\00:07:11.99 he shall be different from the first ones 00:07:12.03\00:07:14.00 and shall subdue three kings." 00:07:14.03\00:07:16.40 So you have the Roman empire, 00:07:16.43\00:07:17.93 which was the empire that ruled in the days of Paul, 00:07:17.97\00:07:21.14 later than that, 00:07:21.17\00:07:22.54 ten kingdoms would come from this empire. 00:07:22.57\00:07:25.61 In other words, the empire would be divided 00:07:25.64\00:07:27.64 and then after the division of the empire, 00:07:27.68\00:07:30.35 you would have the rise of the little horn, 00:07:30.38\00:07:32.65 which is the man of sin, or the Antichrist. 00:07:32.68\00:07:36.52 Now I wanna read an interesting statement 00:07:36.55\00:07:39.85 that we find here 00:07:39.89\00:07:42.42 in the Catechetical lectures of the Nicene 00:07:42.46\00:07:46.46 and Post-Nicene Fathers. 00:07:46.49\00:07:48.50 This is a comment by an individual 00:07:48.53\00:07:52.27 called Cyril of Jerusalem. 00:07:52.30\00:07:54.30 He was an early church Father. 00:07:54.34\00:07:55.90 He lived from 318 to 386 A.D. 00:07:55.94\00:07:58.61 He understood this prophecy 00:07:58.64\00:07:59.97 because he was living in the time 00:08:00.01\00:08:01.54 of the fragmentation of the Roman empire. 00:08:01.58\00:08:03.55 Notice how precise he was, 00:08:03.58\00:08:06.05 "But this aforesaid Antichrist is to come 00:08:06.08\00:08:10.99 when the times of the Roman empire 00:08:11.02\00:08:13.66 shall have been fulfilled, 00:08:13.69\00:08:15.99 and the end of the world is drawing near." 00:08:16.02\00:08:17.89 So he didn't know that history was gonna go on 00:08:17.93\00:08:19.56 for 2000 years like we already noticed. 00:08:19.59\00:08:22.73 "There shall rise up together ten kings of the Romans, 00:08:22.76\00:08:27.80 reigning in different parts perhaps, 00:08:27.84\00:08:30.74 but all about the same time 00:08:30.77\00:08:33.78 and after those an eleventh, the Antichrist, 00:08:33.81\00:08:38.51 who by his magical craft 00:08:38.55\00:08:40.65 shall seize upon the Roman power, 00:08:40.68\00:08:44.29 and of the kings who reigned before him, 00:08:44.32\00:08:47.22 three shall he humble and the remaining seven, 00:08:47.26\00:08:51.19 he shall keep in subjection to himself.'" 00:08:51.23\00:08:54.96 Did he have it straight? 00:08:55.00\00:08:56.60 You better believe he had a straight 00:08:56.63\00:08:58.53 and he was living during that period. 00:08:58.57\00:09:01.74 By the way, the Book of Revelation 00:09:01.77\00:09:03.30 describes this transfer of power 00:09:03.34\00:09:06.64 from the dragon which is the fourth beast 00:09:06.68\00:09:09.44 to the beast, which is Papal Rome. 00:09:09.48\00:09:12.11 Let's read roman chapter 00:09:12.15\00:09:16.02 Revelation 13:2, 00:09:16.05\00:09:19.45 now the beast which is a symbol of the papacy, 00:09:19.49\00:09:21.86 that ruled 42 months, 00:09:21.89\00:09:23.36 "Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, 00:09:23.39\00:09:26.29 his feet were like the feet of a bear, 00:09:26.33\00:09:29.00 his mouth like the mouth of a lion. 00:09:29.03\00:09:31.63 The dragon, which has been identified 00:09:31.67\00:09:33.67 in the previous chapter as the Roman empire 00:09:33.70\00:09:35.90 that tried to kill the child, remember? 00:09:35.94\00:09:38.17 That's the Roman empire. 00:09:38.21\00:09:39.87 So it says here, the dragon gave him, 00:09:39.91\00:09:43.68 that is the beast, the papacy, 00:09:43.71\00:09:45.31 his what? 00:09:45.35\00:09:46.68 His power, what else? 00:09:46.72\00:09:48.35 His throne and what else? 00:09:48.38\00:09:50.99 Great authority. 00:09:51.02\00:09:52.92 So was the beast that came from the sea 00:09:52.95\00:09:55.49 going to receive power 00:09:55.52\00:09:57.33 from the dragon or the Roman empire? 00:09:57.36\00:09:59.93 Absolutely. 00:09:59.96\00:10:01.50 Notice Ellen White's comment on this, 00:10:01.53\00:10:03.40 Great Controversy page 54, 00:10:03.43\00:10:05.73 Great Controversy page 54, Ellen White states, 00:10:05.77\00:10:09.24 "In the sixth century 00:10:09.27\00:10:11.07 the papacy had become firmly established. 00:10:11.11\00:10:14.34 Its seat of power was fixed in the imperial city, 00:10:14.38\00:10:18.81 and the bishop of Rome was declared to be the head 00:10:18.85\00:10:21.95 over the entire church. 00:10:21.98\00:10:24.35 Paganism had given place to the papacy. 00:10:24.39\00:10:27.99 When she's speaking about paganism, 00:10:28.02\00:10:29.36 she's talking about the Roman empire. 00:10:29.39\00:10:31.33 Paganism had given place to the papacy 00:10:31.36\00:10:34.06 and then she quotes Revelation 13:2, 00:10:34.10\00:10:36.53 "The dragon had given to the beast, 00:10:36.56\00:10:38.67 his power and his seat and great authority," 00:10:38.70\00:10:42.30 and now began the 1260 years of papal oppression 00:10:42.34\00:10:47.58 foretold in the prophecies 00:10:47.61\00:10:49.61 of Daniel and the Revelation. 00:10:49.64\00:10:53.65 So the question is, 00:10:53.68\00:10:55.02 who was it that was restraining the manifestation 00:10:55.05\00:10:58.69 of the papacy as the Antichrist? 00:10:58.72\00:11:01.36 It was the Roman empire. 00:11:01.39\00:11:03.29 As long as the empire stood, 00:11:03.32\00:11:07.30 the man of sin could not rule 00:11:07.33\00:11:09.96 but once the empire and the emperor would remove, 00:11:10.00\00:11:14.67 were removed, 00:11:14.70\00:11:16.04 then this man of sin could rise to rule himself. 00:11:16.07\00:11:21.71 Now, let me give you a little bit of history. 00:11:21.74\00:11:24.48 In the year 330 A.D., 00:11:24.51\00:11:27.42 Emperor Constantine moved the seat of the Roman empire 00:11:27.45\00:11:32.89 to Constantinople. 00:11:32.92\00:11:34.69 Today, it's Istanbul. 00:11:34.72\00:11:37.03 And thus, the political power of the west 00:11:37.06\00:11:40.50 was greatly weakened. 00:11:40.53\00:11:43.47 In fact, around the end of the fourth 00:11:43.50\00:11:46.40 and early fifth centuries, 00:11:46.43\00:11:48.24 not only that Constantine 00:11:48.27\00:11:50.21 had Constantine removed the empire, 00:11:50.24\00:11:52.44 the seat of the empire to Constantinople in the east, 00:11:52.47\00:11:56.18 but also at the end of the fourth 00:11:56.21\00:11:57.91 and early fifth centuries, 00:11:57.95\00:11:59.85 hordes of barbarian tribes from the north 00:11:59.88\00:12:03.55 invaded what had been the Roman empire 00:12:03.59\00:12:06.49 and carved it up into pieces. 00:12:06.52\00:12:09.06 In the year 476, 00:12:09.09\00:12:10.93 the last Roman emperor was deposed from Rome. 00:12:10.96\00:12:15.73 His name was Romulus Augustulus. 00:12:15.76\00:12:19.10 Thus there was no longer an emperor 00:12:19.13\00:12:22.74 in the Western Roman empire. 00:12:22.77\00:12:26.47 The man of sin could now rise to occupy the throne. 00:12:26.51\00:12:31.95 I wanna read you from a historian. 00:12:31.98\00:12:34.72 This is a historian that describes this period. 00:12:34.75\00:12:39.22 You can find the reference when we do the DVDs, 00:12:39.25\00:12:41.56 you're gonna find all of these quotations 00:12:41.59\00:12:43.59 on the screen even though we don't have them here. 00:12:43.63\00:12:45.93 This is what this historian has to say. 00:12:45.96\00:12:48.33 "When the insignificant Romulus Augustulus was deposed in 476, 00:12:48.36\00:12:54.30 there was no longer a titular emperor. 00:12:54.34\00:12:58.71 In other words, there was no longer an emperor. 00:12:58.74\00:13:01.04 Now what happened as a result? 00:13:01.08\00:13:03.35 As a result without an emperor, 00:13:03.38\00:13:05.78 the Roman empire became a mess. 00:13:05.81\00:13:09.88 Civil society fell apart, 00:13:09.92\00:13:13.15 the abandonment of Rome 00:13:13.19\00:13:15.62 by Constantine to Constantinople 00:13:15.66\00:13:18.83 and the deposition of the emperor in the West 00:13:18.86\00:13:24.13 turned the empire upside down 00:13:24.17\00:13:26.77 because it no longer had a civil ruler. 00:13:26.80\00:13:29.50 In this chaotic situation, 00:13:29.54\00:13:32.97 the Bishop of Rome 00:13:33.01\00:13:34.74 was enticed by the barbarian tribes, 00:13:34.78\00:13:38.01 to not only rule over them in religious affairs 00:13:38.05\00:13:41.58 but to rule over them in spiritual affairs as well. 00:13:41.62\00:13:46.76 And thus the Bishop of Rome, which today we call the pope 00:13:46.79\00:13:49.82 now is not only the civil ruler 00:13:49.86\00:13:52.16 to bring order in what had been the Roman empire, 00:13:52.19\00:13:55.03 but it also is the ruler in religious affairs. 00:13:55.06\00:13:59.43 Let me read you the description 00:13:59.47\00:14:01.14 that is given by a Roman Catholic Cardinal, 00:14:01.17\00:14:03.64 one of those Cardinals 00:14:03.67\00:14:05.01 that abandon the Catholic Church. 00:14:05.04\00:14:06.98 They were Anglicans 00:14:07.01\00:14:08.68 and they became Roman Catholics 00:14:08.71\00:14:10.58 and they were given the Cardinal's hat. 00:14:10.61\00:14:12.48 One of them was John Henry Newman. 00:14:12.51\00:14:14.32 You remember we mentioned him, 00:14:14.35\00:14:15.85 the other one was John Henry Manning, 00:14:15.88\00:14:18.65 and I want you to notice what he had to say. 00:14:18.69\00:14:20.89 This is not a Protestant scholar, 00:14:20.92\00:14:22.79 this is not me, it's him about what happened 00:14:22.82\00:14:25.49 when the barbarians invaded the empire 00:14:25.53\00:14:27.86 and how the barbarians asked the pope 00:14:27.90\00:14:30.27 to take over the civil ruler ship 00:14:30.30\00:14:33.10 and not only the religious ruler ship. 00:14:33.13\00:14:35.47 This is what he wrote, 00:14:35.50\00:14:37.31 "But from the hour when Constantine, 00:14:37.34\00:14:40.58 in the language of the Roman law, 00:14:40.61\00:14:43.65 'Deo jubente,' by the command of God," 00:14:43.68\00:14:47.25 listen carefully, 00:14:47.28\00:14:48.62 "translated the seat of power to Constantinople, 00:14:48.65\00:14:53.29 from that moment, 00:14:53.32\00:14:54.99 there never reigned in Rome, 00:14:55.02\00:14:57.36 a temporal prince to whom the Bishops of Rome 00:14:57.39\00:15:00.96 owed a permanent allegiance. 00:15:01.00\00:15:05.30 James P. Conroy, 00:15:05.33\00:15:07.47 another historian describes it this way, 00:15:07.50\00:15:10.74 "Long ages ago, 00:15:10.77\00:15:12.61 when Rome through the neglect of the Western emperors 00:15:12.64\00:15:17.71 was left to the mercy of the barbarous hordes, 00:15:17.75\00:15:21.18 the Romans turned to one figure for aid and protection, 00:15:21.22\00:15:25.05 and asked him to rule," asked him to rule over them. 00:15:25.09\00:15:29.52 "And thus, in this simple matter, 00:15:29.56\00:15:32.03 the best title of all to kingly right, 00:15:32.06\00:15:35.50 commenced the temporal sovereignty of the popes." 00:15:35.53\00:15:38.50 See, the barbarians asked him to rule over them. 00:15:38.53\00:15:42.57 He continues saying, listen carefully, 00:15:42.60\00:15:46.04 "And meekly stepping to the throne of Caesar, 00:15:46.07\00:15:50.55 the vicar of Christ, or the vicar of Christ 00:15:50.58\00:15:54.38 took up the scepter 00:15:54.42\00:15:56.28 to which the emperors and kings of Europe 00:15:56.32\00:15:59.62 were to bow in reverence through so many ages. 00:15:59.65\00:16:04.59 Here's another one from another historian, 00:16:04.63\00:16:07.23 Carl Conrad Eckhardt, 00:16:07.26\00:16:10.10 he wrote, 00:16:10.13\00:16:11.93 and he's recognizing the three stages of Rome here, 00:16:11.97\00:16:16.34 "Under the popes, 00:16:16.37\00:16:20.98 the popes had no temporal powers," 00:16:21.01\00:16:22.78 is what he says, 00:16:22.81\00:16:24.65 "But when the Roman empire had disintegrated," 00:16:24.68\00:16:27.78 that's the second stage, 00:16:27.82\00:16:30.22 "and its place had been taken by a number of rude, 00:16:30.25\00:16:33.15 barbarous kingdoms, 00:16:33.19\00:16:35.32 the Roman Catholic Church," stage number three, 00:16:35.36\00:16:37.69 "the Roman Catholic Church 00:16:37.73\00:16:39.16 not only became independent of the states 00:16:39.19\00:16:41.63 in religious affairs, 00:16:41.66\00:16:43.63 but dominated secular affairs as well." 00:16:43.67\00:16:47.40 These are not Adventist historians. 00:16:47.44\00:16:51.11 Let me read you another statement, 00:16:51.14\00:16:53.01 R.W. Southern, 00:16:53.04\00:16:54.58 Western Society in the church in the Middle ages. 00:16:54.61\00:16:56.68 This is very interesting, he says, 00:16:56.71\00:16:58.08 "During the whole medieval period 00:16:58.11\00:17:00.48 there was in Rome, 00:17:00.52\00:17:02.22 a single spiritual and temporal authority, 00:17:02.25\00:17:07.89 exercising powers which in the end 00:17:07.92\00:17:11.46 exceeded those that had ever lain within the grasp 00:17:11.49\00:17:15.00 of the Roman emperor." 00:17:15.03\00:17:17.93 Here's another one from John N. Figgis. 00:17:17.97\00:17:20.84 This is an interesting statement. 00:17:20.87\00:17:22.70 He says, "In the Middle Ages the church was not a state, 00:17:22.74\00:17:26.84 it was the state or rather, the civil authority 00:17:26.88\00:17:32.58 was merely the police department of the Church." 00:17:32.61\00:17:36.95 Are you catching the picture? 00:17:36.99\00:17:38.85 Who had risen to the throne 00:17:38.89\00:17:40.62 to rule not only in religious affairs 00:17:40.66\00:17:43.02 but in political affairs? 00:17:43.06\00:17:44.76 The Bishop of Rome, who is called the pope today. 00:17:44.79\00:17:49.03 In 1302, Pope Boniface VII 00:17:49.06\00:17:53.23 wrote a very interesting bull. 00:17:53.27\00:17:56.10 By the way, the word bull, 00:17:56.14\00:17:58.57 means a personal letter of the pope. 00:17:58.61\00:18:00.88 So in 1302, Pope Boniface VIII writes a letter, 00:18:00.91\00:18:06.68 a bull and the title of the bull 00:18:06.72\00:18:08.45 is Unam Sanctam, in Latin, 00:18:08.48\00:18:12.19 and this is what he wrote, 00:18:12.22\00:18:14.19 "We are informed by the texts of the gospels 00:18:14.22\00:18:18.99 that in this Roman Catholic Church 00:18:19.03\00:18:22.23 and in its power are two swords." 00:18:22.26\00:18:26.27 So the Catholic Church, he says, 00:18:26.30\00:18:27.64 has how many swords? 00:18:27.67\00:18:29.64 Two swords, 00:18:29.67\00:18:31.17 "Namely, the spiritual and the temporal. 00:18:31.21\00:18:36.11 Both, therefore, are in the power of the church, 00:18:36.14\00:18:39.68 that is to say, the spiritual and the material sword, 00:18:39.71\00:18:43.85 but the former, that is the spiritual, 00:18:43.89\00:18:45.79 by the way, it's the Bible, 00:18:45.82\00:18:48.09 but the former is to be administered for the church. 00:18:48.12\00:18:53.09 But the latter that is the temporal, 00:18:53.13\00:18:54.86 the civil Bible Church, 00:18:54.90\00:18:57.47 the former that is the spiritual 00:18:57.50\00:18:59.23 in the hands of the priest, 00:18:59.27\00:19:01.57 the latter by the hands of the kings and soldiers, 00:19:01.60\00:19:05.54 but at the will and sufferance of the priest. 00:19:05.57\00:19:11.25 Are you catching the picture? 00:19:11.28\00:19:14.32 Cardinal Manning, you got to listen to this statement. 00:19:14.35\00:19:18.59 You remember that the Antichrist, 00:19:18.62\00:19:21.99 the man of sin was restrained right? 00:19:22.02\00:19:25.56 He was, in other words, he was bound 00:19:25.59\00:19:28.76 by the Roman empire. 00:19:28.80\00:19:30.63 Now listen to this statement 00:19:30.67\00:19:32.00 by this Roman Catholic Cardinal, 00:19:32.03\00:19:34.20 "Now the abandonment of Rome 00:19:34.24\00:19:36.91 was the liberation of the pontiffs." 00:19:36.94\00:19:41.28 He doesn't know he's commenting on 2 Thessalonians 2. 00:19:41.31\00:19:45.45 The abandonment of Rome 00:19:45.48\00:19:47.25 was the liberation of the pontiffs. 00:19:47.28\00:19:49.92 Whatsoever claims to obedience the emperors may have made 00:19:49.95\00:19:54.12 and whatsoever compliance the pontiff may have yielded, 00:19:54.16\00:19:58.39 the whole previous relation, 00:19:58.43\00:20:00.53 anomalous and anulled again and again 00:20:00.56\00:20:03.26 by the vices and outrages of the emperors, 00:20:03.30\00:20:06.37 was finally dissolved by a higher power. 00:20:06.40\00:20:09.97 The providence of God, listen carefully, 00:20:10.01\00:20:11.97 the providence of God permitted a succession of eruptions, 00:20:12.01\00:20:16.18 Gothic, Lombard, and Hungarian, to desolate Italy, 00:20:16.21\00:20:20.72 and to efface from it every remnant of the empire." 00:20:20.75\00:20:26.52 Now listen carefully, 00:20:26.55\00:20:27.89 "The pontiffs found themselves alone, 00:20:27.92\00:20:31.53 the soul or the only fountains 00:20:31.56\00:20:34.40 of order, peace, law, and safety. 00:20:34.43\00:20:38.17 And from the hour of this providential Liberation", 00:20:38.20\00:20:42.30 liberation from what? 00:20:42.34\00:20:44.84 From the Roman empire. 00:20:44.87\00:20:46.84 "From this providential liberation, 00:20:46.88\00:20:49.04 when, by divine intervention 00:20:49.08\00:20:52.01 that chains fell off 00:20:52.05\00:20:54.05 from the hands of the successor of Peter." 00:20:54.08\00:20:58.85 Are you catching the picture? 00:20:58.89\00:21:01.46 So what happens when the emperor is removed? 00:21:01.49\00:21:03.79 The barbarians carve up, 00:21:03.83\00:21:05.43 you know, society, it becomes a mess. 00:21:05.46\00:21:08.40 And so now the pope steps to the throne of Caesar. 00:21:08.43\00:21:11.50 How does he describe this? 00:21:11.53\00:21:12.87 He says the chains fell off. 00:21:12.90\00:21:15.07 What to chains do? 00:21:15.10\00:21:17.04 They restrain. 00:21:17.07\00:21:18.94 And he speaks of providential liberation. 00:21:18.97\00:21:21.78 So it says, "When, by a divine intervention, 00:21:21.81\00:21:23.75 the chains fell off 00:21:23.78\00:21:25.11 from the hands of the successor of Peter, 00:21:25.15\00:21:26.98 as once before his own, from his own, 00:21:27.02\00:21:30.25 no sovereign has ever reigned in Rome 00:21:30.29\00:21:33.29 except the Vicar of Jesus Christ." 00:21:33.32\00:21:37.39 Here's another statement by Manning, 00:21:37.43\00:21:40.06 "The papacy waited 00:21:40.10\00:21:42.36 until such a time as God should break its bonds asunder, 00:21:42.40\00:21:47.44 and should liberate it 00:21:47.47\00:21:48.87 from subjection to civil powers, 00:21:48.90\00:21:51.27 and then enthrone it in the possession 00:21:51.31\00:21:53.68 of a temporal sovereignty of its own." 00:21:53.71\00:21:57.68 Notice once again, the terminology, 00:21:57.71\00:22:00.35 break its bonds, 00:22:00.38\00:22:02.82 liberated from subjection to civil powers 00:22:02.85\00:22:06.25 and enthrone it 00:22:06.29\00:22:07.79 with a temporal sovereignty of its own. 00:22:07.82\00:22:11.03 He's commenting on the restrainer 00:22:11.06\00:22:14.73 and the man of sin, 00:22:14.76\00:22:16.10 who when the chains fall off, 00:22:16.13\00:22:18.17 he openly manifest himself. 00:22:18.20\00:22:20.94 Now Manning is saying 00:22:20.97\00:22:22.80 that when the emperor Constantine 00:22:22.84\00:22:24.67 moved the seat of the empire to Constantinople 00:22:24.71\00:22:28.68 and the barbarians carved up the Roman empire, 00:22:28.71\00:22:32.65 there was a vacuum in the civil authority. 00:22:32.68\00:22:37.09 And so the barbarians asked the Bishop of Rome, 00:22:37.12\00:22:39.99 not only to rule in religious affairs, 00:22:40.02\00:22:42.29 but to rule also in civil affairs. 00:22:42.32\00:22:46.63 And Manning describes this 00:22:46.66\00:22:48.60 as breaking bonds asunder 00:22:48.63\00:22:52.93 and the chains falling off. 00:22:52.97\00:22:56.10 Let me read you a comment by Albert Barnes. 00:22:56.14\00:22:59.54 Albert Barnes was a Bible Commentary, 00:22:59.57\00:23:02.58 commentator, a very famous Bible Commentary commentator, 00:23:02.61\00:23:07.15 and he wrote the following about this restrainer 00:23:07.18\00:23:10.15 and the manifestation of the man of sin. 00:23:10.19\00:23:13.49 He says, "The supposition 00:23:13.52\00:23:15.32 which will best suit this language is, 00:23:15.36\00:23:18.79 that there was then some civil restraint, 00:23:18.83\00:23:22.33 preventing the development of existing corruptions, 00:23:22.36\00:23:26.30 but that there would be a removal 00:23:26.33\00:23:28.37 or withdrawal of that restraint 00:23:28.40\00:23:31.54 and that then, 00:23:31.57\00:23:33.21 the tendency of the existing corruptions will be seen. 00:23:33.24\00:23:37.05 It is evident as Oldshausen remarks, 00:23:37.08\00:23:41.15 that this resisting or restraining power 00:23:41.18\00:23:44.25 must be something out of the church 00:23:44.29\00:23:47.62 and distinguished 00:23:47.66\00:23:48.99 from the anti-Christian tendency itself. 00:23:49.02\00:23:52.49 It is necessary therefore, to understand this, 00:23:52.53\00:23:55.20 of the restraints of civil power. 00:23:55.23\00:23:58.27 Was there, then, any fact in history 00:23:58.30\00:24:00.94 which will accord with this interpretation?" 00:24:00.97\00:24:02.90 He asks, 00:24:02.94\00:24:04.47 "The belief among primitive Christians 00:24:04.51\00:24:06.37 was that what hindered the rise of the man of sin 00:24:06.41\00:24:10.71 was the Roman empire, 00:24:10.75\00:24:12.75 and therefore 'they prayed for its peace and welfare 00:24:12.78\00:24:16.82 as knowing that when the Roman empire 00:24:16.85\00:24:19.02 should be dissolved and broken in pieces, 00:24:19.05\00:24:21.52 the empire of the man of sin will be raised on its ruins.'" 00:24:21.56\00:24:26.36 So they prayed to Lord, preserve the Roman empire 00:24:26.39\00:24:29.36 because when it falls apart, 00:24:29.40\00:24:31.47 the man of sin is gonna be revealed. 00:24:31.50\00:24:33.87 The early Fathers believed that. 00:24:33.90\00:24:35.37 Now let me read you 00:24:35.40\00:24:36.91 what Ellen White has to say 00:24:36.94\00:24:39.01 about the removal of the restraint. 00:24:39.04\00:24:42.28 In Great Controversy page 49, she wrote, 00:24:42.31\00:24:45.91 "The spirit of compromise and conformity," 00:24:45.95\00:24:48.98 she's speaking about the early church, 00:24:49.02\00:24:51.55 "was restrained," 00:24:51.59\00:24:54.86 was what? 00:24:54.89\00:24:56.46 "Restrained for a time by the fierce persecutions 00:24:56.49\00:25:00.70 which the church endured under paganism." 00:25:00.73\00:25:02.80 When she says paganism, it's the Roman empire. 00:25:02.83\00:25:05.93 Then she says, "But as persecution ceased, 00:25:05.97\00:25:09.54 and Christianity entered the courts 00:25:09.57\00:25:11.71 and palaces of kings," 00:25:11.74\00:25:14.04 see, involved in the civil ruler ship of the nation, 00:25:14.08\00:25:17.25 she says, "She laid aside the humble simplicity of Christ 00:25:17.28\00:25:19.88 and His apostles for the pomp and pride 00:25:19.91\00:25:22.62 of pagan priests and rulers, 00:25:22.65\00:25:24.35 and in place of the requirements of God, 00:25:24.39\00:25:26.42 she substituted human theories and traditions." 00:25:26.45\00:25:31.26 She also wrote in Manuscript Releases Volume 1, page 50, 00:25:31.29\00:25:35.20 "The vast empire of Rome crumbled to pieces, 00:25:35.23\00:25:39.27 and from its ruins rose that mighty power, 00:25:39.30\00:25:42.87 the Roman Catholic Church. 00:25:42.90\00:25:44.97 This church boasts of her infallibility 00:25:45.01\00:25:48.04 and her hereditary religion. 00:25:48.08\00:25:52.05 Now let's read once again, 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 00:25:52.08\00:25:56.02 and try and make some sense out of this 00:25:56.05\00:25:58.02 in the light of what we've already read. 00:25:58.05\00:26:02.16 The Apostle Paul says, 00:26:02.19\00:26:04.23 "And now you know what is restraining," 00:26:04.26\00:26:08.96 according to what we're studying, 00:26:09.00\00:26:10.33 what is it that was restraining?" 00:26:10.37\00:26:13.20 The empire, what? 00:26:13.23\00:26:16.87 And then he says, 00:26:16.91\00:26:18.24 "That he may be revealed in his own time." 00:26:18.27\00:26:21.44 That's the Antichrist, 00:26:21.48\00:26:23.55 "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, 00:26:23.58\00:26:26.25 only he, which would be the emperor, 00:26:26.28\00:26:29.82 but it's not one emperor, it's a succession of emperor's 00:26:29.85\00:26:32.39 as we've noticed the meaning of the word he, 00:26:32.42\00:26:34.82 but only he who now restrains 00:26:34.86\00:26:38.23 will do so until when? 00:26:38.26\00:26:40.93 Until he is taken out of the away. 00:26:40.96\00:26:42.70 So was the papacy taken out of the away? 00:26:42.73\00:26:45.57 Was the Roman empire taken out of the away 00:26:45.60\00:26:47.24 by the barbarians? 00:26:47.27\00:26:48.60 Absolutely. 00:26:48.64\00:26:50.01 Now, some people say, "Well, 00:26:50.04\00:26:51.37 why didn't the Apostle Paul just come right out and say, 00:26:51.41\00:26:54.11 you know, the Roman empire is gonna be removed 00:26:54.14\00:26:56.44 and that the Antichrist will be manifested. 00:26:56.48\00:27:00.12 Well, it's quite obvious that if Paul had told 00:27:00.15\00:27:04.25 the church members 00:27:04.29\00:27:05.72 that the Roman empire was gonna be removed 00:27:05.75\00:27:08.32 and replaced by the papacy, 00:27:08.36\00:27:10.06 he would be accused of sedition against the Roman empire. 00:27:10.09\00:27:14.50 The Roman emperors would say, What do you mean 00:27:14.53\00:27:16.46 that we kind of be removed, 00:27:16.50\00:27:18.37 and somebody else is gonna rule the empire. 00:27:18.40\00:27:20.80 And so he had to speak in an indirect way. 00:27:20.84\00:27:24.87 He says, "You know what is restraining, 00:27:24.91\00:27:28.21 you know, who is restraining 00:27:28.24\00:27:30.95 and you know, that when that restraint was removed, 00:27:30.98\00:27:33.62 the man of sin will manifest himself, 00:27:33.65\00:27:35.92 but it doesn't come right out and say 00:27:35.95\00:27:38.12 that Rome is going to be removed, 00:27:38.15\00:27:40.42 because if he said that, 00:27:40.46\00:27:41.79 he would be accused of sedition. 00:27:41.82\00:27:44.99 Incidentally, the way futurists interpret 00:27:45.03\00:27:50.27 this restrainer is they say 00:27:50.30\00:27:53.10 that the restrainer is the Holy Spirit. 00:27:53.13\00:27:56.67 And when the Holy Spirit is removed, 00:27:56.71\00:27:59.77 then the man of sin can manifest himself. 00:27:59.81\00:28:02.58 Even the Andrews University study Bible 00:28:02.61\00:28:04.51 says that the restrainer is the Holy Spirit. 00:28:04.55\00:28:07.65 I believe that what the early church Fathers believed 00:28:07.68\00:28:10.99 was much more accurate. 00:28:11.02\00:28:13.15 In fact, let's read some statements 00:28:13.19\00:28:14.96 from the early church Fathers 00:28:14.99\00:28:16.62 who lived slightly before the Roman empire fell apart, 00:28:16.66\00:28:21.46 and some of them at the time 00:28:21.50\00:28:23.03 that the Roman empire was falling apart. 00:28:23.06\00:28:25.67 Let's begin with Tertullian. 00:28:25.70\00:28:28.07 He lived it from the year 160 to the year to 240 A.D. 00:28:28.10\00:28:33.34 This is what he wrote, 00:28:33.38\00:28:35.28 "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work. 00:28:35.31\00:28:39.18 Only he who now hinders must hinder, 00:28:39.21\00:28:43.39 until he be taken out of the way." 00:28:43.42\00:28:45.95 And now comes his interpretation. 00:28:45.99\00:28:48.42 What obstacle is there but the Roman state, 00:28:48.46\00:28:52.93 the falling away of which, 00:28:52.96\00:28:55.06 by being scattered into ten kingdoms, 00:28:55.10\00:28:57.57 shall introduce Antichrist upon its own ruins?' 00:28:57.60\00:29:02.80 And then shall be revealed the wicked one.'" 00:29:02.84\00:29:05.87 Did you have it clear, 00:29:05.91\00:29:07.64 the meaning of his prophecy? 00:29:07.68\00:29:09.28 He most certainly did. 00:29:09.31\00:29:10.78 Tertullian also wrote the following, 00:29:10.81\00:29:13.72 "The end of all things 00:29:13.75\00:29:16.08 threatening dreadful woes 00:29:16.12\00:29:19.45 is only retarded by the continued existence 00:29:19.49\00:29:23.66 of the Roman empire." 00:29:23.69\00:29:26.39 Lactantius, 00:29:26.43\00:29:28.80 one of the Church Fathers wrote in the fourth century, 00:29:28.83\00:29:31.53 the following words, 00:29:31.57\00:29:33.34 "The subject itself declares 00:29:33.37\00:29:35.94 that the fall and ruin of the world 00:29:35.97\00:29:38.84 will certainly take place, 00:29:38.87\00:29:41.18 except that while the city of Rome remains, 00:29:41.21\00:29:45.55 it appears that nothing of this kind is to be feared." 00:29:45.58\00:29:50.15 You understand that? 00:29:50.19\00:29:52.09 Continues writing, 00:29:52.12\00:29:53.56 "But when the capital of the world shall have fallen, 00:29:53.59\00:29:58.49 and shall have begun to be a street, 00:29:58.53\00:30:00.66 which the Sibyls say shall come to pass, 00:30:00.70\00:30:03.67 who can doubt that the end has now arrived 00:30:03.70\00:30:05.90 to the affairs of men and the whole world? 00:30:05.93\00:30:08.80 It is that city, 00:30:08.84\00:30:10.51 that only, 00:30:10.54\00:30:12.11 which still sustains all things." 00:30:12.14\00:30:16.38 Let me read what Ambrose had to say, 00:30:16.41\00:30:18.21 another early church father. 00:30:18.25\00:30:19.58 He died in the year 398A.D. 00:30:19.61\00:30:22.58 This is near the time 00:30:22.62\00:30:23.95 when the barbarians are invading the empire 00:30:23.99\00:30:26.62 and carving it up. 00:30:26.65\00:30:28.22 He wrote the following, 00:30:28.26\00:30:29.79 "After the falling or decay of the Roman empire, 00:30:29.82\00:30:35.03 Antichrist will appear." 00:30:35.06\00:30:38.33 Let me read you what Chrysostom had to say. 00:30:38.37\00:30:40.94 He died in the year 407A.D, 00:30:40.97\00:30:43.87 this is what he wrote, 00:30:43.91\00:30:45.44 "When the Roman empire is taken out of the way, 00:30:45.47\00:30:48.98 then he shall come." 00:30:49.01\00:30:51.55 That is the Antichrist. 00:30:51.58\00:30:52.95 "And naturally, 00:30:52.98\00:30:54.58 for as long as the fear of this empire lasts, 00:30:54.62\00:30:58.22 no one will willingly exalt himself." 00:30:58.25\00:31:01.99 That's why Paul didn't say it's the Roman empire 00:31:02.02\00:31:04.73 because if he says that he's accused of sedition, 00:31:04.76\00:31:08.36 and it shortens his ministry. 00:31:08.40\00:31:10.87 He continues writing, 00:31:10.90\00:31:14.17 "And naturally, 00:31:14.20\00:31:15.54 for as long as the fear of this empire lasts, 00:31:15.57\00:31:17.84 no one will willingly exalt himself, 00:31:17.87\00:31:20.38 but when that is dissolved, 00:31:20.41\00:31:21.74 in other words, when the empire is dissolved, 00:31:21.78\00:31:24.01 he will attack the anarchy, 00:31:24.05\00:31:25.88 and endeavor to seize upon the government 00:31:25.91\00:31:28.22 both of man and of God. 00:31:28.25\00:31:31.29 Is that what happened with the papacy? 00:31:31.32\00:31:33.39 Did they take over the government of man 00:31:33.42\00:31:34.89 besides the government of God? 00:31:34.92\00:31:36.99 Absolutely. 00:31:37.03\00:31:38.36 Notice what Jerome had to say. 00:31:38.39\00:31:40.40 He's the one who translated 00:31:40.43\00:31:41.76 the vulgate version of the Bible, 00:31:41.80\00:31:43.97 which is the official Roman Catholic version 00:31:44.00\00:31:46.03 of the Bible for the vulgate. 00:31:46.07\00:31:48.00 He died in the year 420 A.D, he wrote this, 00:31:48.04\00:31:51.21 "He that letteth," that's the word 00:31:51.24\00:31:53.17 that's used in the King James for restrain. 00:31:53.21\00:31:56.21 "He that letteth is taken out of the way, 00:31:56.24\00:32:00.52 and yet we do not realize that Antichrist is near." 00:32:00.55\00:32:03.65 He lived when the barbarians were invading the empire. 00:32:03.69\00:32:06.19 He's said it's happening. 00:32:06.22\00:32:08.72 He's saying that you know, the empire is falling, 00:32:08.76\00:32:12.73 and we do not realize 00:32:12.76\00:32:14.96 that the Antichrist has come 00:32:15.00\00:32:18.90 or in the process of coming. 00:32:18.93\00:32:20.27 Are you understanding 00:32:20.30\00:32:21.64 what the early church Fathers are saying? 00:32:21.67\00:32:24.27 They're saying that what restrains 00:32:24.31\00:32:26.71 is the emperor and the empire 00:32:26.74\00:32:30.58 but when the last emperor is deposed, 00:32:30.61\00:32:32.98 when the seat of the empire is moved to Constantinople, 00:32:33.01\00:32:36.62 and society is a disaster, 00:32:36.65\00:32:39.95 they need a civil ruler and not only religious ruler. 00:32:39.99\00:32:43.49 And so now, 00:32:43.53\00:32:44.86 the restrainer haven't been taken out of the way, 00:32:44.89\00:32:48.70 the Bishop of Rome can come 00:32:48.73\00:32:50.33 and occupy the throne that was left vacant. 00:32:50.37\00:32:53.67 Now let's go to 2 Thessalonians 2:6, 00:32:53.70\00:32:56.07 is this making sense? 00:32:56.10\00:32:58.57 Yes? 00:32:58.61\00:32:59.94 Is it historical? 00:32:59.97\00:33:01.91 You can go to the history books and read it. 00:33:01.94\00:33:04.05 2 Thessalonians 2:6, 00:33:04.08\00:33:07.18 the Apostle Paul says, 00:33:07.22\00:33:08.55 "And now you know what is restraining, 00:33:08.58\00:33:11.22 that he may be revealed 00:33:11.25\00:33:13.46 in his own time." 00:33:13.49\00:33:18.06 Was there a specific point of time 00:33:18.09\00:33:20.16 when this antichrist was going to begin his rule? 00:33:20.20\00:33:23.60 Yes. 00:33:23.63\00:33:24.97 What time would be referred to here? 00:33:25.00\00:33:28.40 The 1260 years. 00:33:28.44\00:33:31.27 Is that a specific time prophecy 00:33:31.31\00:33:33.34 of the period in which this power would rule? 00:33:33.38\00:33:37.25 538 to 1798. 00:33:37.28\00:33:39.85 In other words, what Paul is saying 00:33:39.88\00:33:41.48 is this Antichrist system 00:33:41.52\00:33:44.35 is gonna rise at the specific time 00:33:44.39\00:33:46.72 in which God placed on his calendar, 00:33:46.76\00:33:50.53 not before and not after, 00:33:50.56\00:33:52.56 he will rise in his own time. 00:33:52.59\00:33:55.86 And then in Chapter 2, verse 7, 00:33:55.90\00:33:58.70 he says, "For the mystery of lawlessness 00:33:58.73\00:34:00.74 is already at work." 00:34:00.77\00:34:02.94 So in his day, 00:34:02.97\00:34:04.31 the Antichrist spirit was already at work. 00:34:04.34\00:34:07.28 Only He, this is the emperor or the succession of emperors, 00:34:07.31\00:34:11.61 "Who now restrains will do so until he," 00:34:11.65\00:34:15.95 that is a succession of emperors, 00:34:15.98\00:34:17.92 "is taken out of the way." 00:34:17.95\00:34:19.65 However 2 Thessalonians 2 is not the end of the story. 00:34:23.96\00:34:29.30 We now need to go beyond 2 Thessalonians 2. 00:34:29.33\00:34:33.80 You see, the Apostle Paul only describes 00:34:33.84\00:34:37.64 the first stage of the Antichrist system. 00:34:37.67\00:34:41.88 The stage where the Roman empire 00:34:41.91\00:34:44.15 is taken out of the way, 00:34:44.18\00:34:45.51 the emperor was taken out of the way, 00:34:45.55\00:34:47.65 the emperor that was ruling 00:34:47.68\00:34:49.78 goes to the east against to Constantinople, 00:34:49.82\00:34:52.35 the barbarians carve up the empire, 00:34:52.39\00:34:54.86 the Bishop of Rome steps to the throne. 00:34:54.89\00:34:57.23 He becomes Caesar as many writers say, 00:34:57.26\00:35:00.30 he occupies the throne of Caesar. 00:35:00.33\00:35:03.60 He rises in his own time and rules for 1260 years. 00:35:03.63\00:35:08.80 That is the perspective that the Apostle Paul gives. 00:35:08.84\00:35:10.91 But he hints at the fact 00:35:10.94\00:35:13.01 that there's gonna be another stage to this power. 00:35:13.04\00:35:16.78 Because this power is destroyed 00:35:16.81\00:35:18.71 by the brightness of Christ's coming, 00:35:18.75\00:35:22.08 which means that this power is going not only to exist 00:35:22.12\00:35:25.32 in the days when it rises to the throne in 538, 00:35:25.35\00:35:29.36 but it is going to rule till the very end of time. 00:35:29.39\00:35:34.83 Now, Paul does not specifically discuss 00:35:34.86\00:35:37.53 the second stage of this Antichrist. 00:35:37.57\00:35:42.77 So we need to go beyond this. 00:35:42.80\00:35:47.38 As far as we know, 00:35:47.41\00:35:50.58 the papacy and this is, 00:35:50.61\00:35:53.55 I shouldn't say as far as we know, 00:35:53.58\00:35:55.98 we know that the papacy ruled from 538 to 1798. 00:35:56.02\00:36:01.39 In 1798, the papacy received a deadly wound. 00:36:01.42\00:36:06.19 Many people misunderstand what the deadly wound is. 00:36:06.23\00:36:09.96 They say, well, the deadly wound 00:36:10.00\00:36:11.33 is that the papacy was, 00:36:11.37\00:36:13.67 you know, the Roman Catholic Church 00:36:13.70\00:36:15.04 was going to cease to exist. 00:36:15.07\00:36:17.07 Well, the Roman Catholic Church didn't cease to exist in 1798. 00:36:17.11\00:36:21.54 Did people still take their children to mosque? 00:36:21.58\00:36:24.81 Did they still baptize them? 00:36:24.85\00:36:26.88 Did they still go to the confession room? 00:36:26.92\00:36:29.38 Did they still participate in the Eucharist? 00:36:29.42\00:36:31.92 Absolutely. 00:36:31.95\00:36:33.56 The Catholic Church didn't disappear in 1798. 00:36:33.59\00:36:37.49 What the deadly wound 00:36:37.53\00:36:38.86 was that the civil authority of the papacy 00:36:38.89\00:36:42.36 was removed by France. 00:36:42.40\00:36:44.53 France said "You're not going to rule 00:36:44.57\00:36:47.67 civilly anymore. 00:36:47.70\00:36:50.07 You can be a spiritual ruler but not a civil ruler. 00:36:50.11\00:36:54.24 In other words, that deadly wound 00:36:54.28\00:36:55.61 the Bible says was given to the papacy with the sword 00:36:55.64\00:36:59.15 that the papacy used to kill with. 00:36:59.18\00:37:01.72 He who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. 00:37:01.75\00:37:06.22 Now, what does the sword represent? 00:37:06.25\00:37:08.69 Well, people say this sword represents the Bible. 00:37:08.72\00:37:11.93 But in this case, that can't represent the Bible. 00:37:11.96\00:37:15.30 Because the papacy didn't use the Bible to kill people. 00:37:15.33\00:37:18.73 And the very sword that the papacy used to kill 00:37:18.77\00:37:21.80 was the sword 00:37:21.84\00:37:23.17 that was gonna give the papacy its deadly would. 00:37:23.20\00:37:24.94 So the sword must represent something else in this context. 00:37:24.97\00:37:29.11 In Romans Chapter 13, 00:37:29.14\00:37:30.51 we see that it's the civil power 00:37:30.55\00:37:32.45 that has the sword. 00:37:32.48\00:37:34.18 In other words, in 1798, 00:37:34.22\00:37:35.85 France took away the sword from the papacy, 00:37:35.88\00:37:37.82 they said, "You're not gonna use the civil powers 00:37:37.85\00:37:39.79 of the world anymore. 00:37:39.82\00:37:43.19 You can be a ruler of the church, 00:37:43.22\00:37:45.59 but you're not gonna be able to use the states 00:37:45.63\00:37:47.86 to accomplish your purposes." 00:37:47.90\00:37:49.40 That is the deadly wound. 00:37:49.43\00:37:51.97 So let me ask you. 00:37:52.00\00:37:53.87 Was the papacy 00:37:53.90\00:37:55.94 put under restraint again in 1798? 00:37:55.97\00:38:01.14 Do you know what Revelation calls that? 00:38:01.18\00:38:03.88 The deadly wound. 00:38:03.91\00:38:05.25 Was the papacy restrained 00:38:08.28\00:38:10.32 from using the civil power in 1798? 00:38:10.35\00:38:13.39 Absolutely. 00:38:13.42\00:38:14.76 Has the papacy been under restraint 00:38:14.79\00:38:17.73 ever since then? 00:38:17.76\00:38:21.16 Pretty much so. 00:38:21.20\00:38:22.93 Let me read you some statements 00:38:22.96\00:38:24.60 from the writings of Ellen White 00:38:24.63\00:38:26.80 where we are told that the papacy now is inactive 00:38:26.84\00:38:32.67 and when you say inactive, 00:38:32.71\00:38:34.04 well, the pope is traveling here, there and everywhere. 00:38:34.08\00:38:36.14 Yes, but the papacy is not able to persecute 00:38:36.18\00:38:38.45 like it did in the past. 00:38:38.48\00:38:40.45 Why? 00:38:40.48\00:38:41.85 Because in the past, they used the civil powers to persecute, 00:38:41.88\00:38:46.25 but in 1798 the civil power was removed from it, 00:38:46.29\00:38:49.09 the sword was removed from it. 00:38:49.12\00:38:51.79 And not until it recovers a sword, 00:38:51.83\00:38:53.90 will it be able to behave as it did in the past? 00:38:53.93\00:38:56.56 Are you understanding me? 00:38:56.60\00:38:58.17 Let me read you some statements from the Spirit of Prophecy, 00:38:58.20\00:39:02.20 "The influence of Rome 00:39:02.24\00:39:04.77 in the countries that once acknowledged her dominion." 00:39:04.81\00:39:10.05 There in the 1260 years, 00:39:10.08\00:39:12.15 is still far from being destroyed 00:39:12.18\00:39:15.22 and prophecy foretells a restoration of her power." 00:39:15.25\00:39:20.79 Then she quotes, 00:39:20.82\00:39:22.16 I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death, 00:39:22.19\00:39:25.09 and his deadly wound was healed: 00:39:25.13\00:39:26.80 and all the world wondered after the beast." 00:39:26.83\00:39:30.97 So does the beast have two stages of dominion? 00:39:31.00\00:39:34.10 Yes, 1260 years 00:39:34.14\00:39:36.40 when the civil power is taken away, 00:39:36.44\00:39:38.81 and now it can use the civil power to persecute 00:39:38.84\00:39:41.94 and to do what it wants. 00:39:41.98\00:39:44.85 The power is removed in 1798. 00:39:44.88\00:39:48.18 In other words, the shackles are put back on. 00:39:48.22\00:39:51.29 The papacy is thrown into prison so to speak. 00:39:51.32\00:39:55.26 And as a result, 00:39:55.29\00:39:56.62 the papacy cannot use the civil powers of the world. 00:39:56.66\00:40:00.63 But Revelation and Ellen White 00:40:00.66\00:40:02.80 tells us that the papacy will recover 00:40:02.83\00:40:06.27 the power they lost. 00:40:06.30\00:40:08.44 Who is gonna return the sword to the papacy? 00:40:08.47\00:40:12.21 The United States of America. 00:40:12.24\00:40:14.64 Has the deadly wound been healed yet? 00:40:14.68\00:40:17.38 No, the deadly wound is healed 00:40:17.41\00:40:19.21 when the papacy has the sword again, 00:40:19.25\00:40:22.42 the sword of civil power. 00:40:22.45\00:40:23.99 And the Bible tells us that the United States 00:40:24.02\00:40:26.12 is gonna be the nation 00:40:26.15\00:40:27.49 that will first return the sword to the papacy, 00:40:27.52\00:40:30.56 and Ellen White states that every country on the globe 00:40:30.59\00:40:33.80 will follow the example of the United States. 00:40:33.83\00:40:36.77 That's why Pope Francis is so intent 00:40:36.80\00:40:39.33 on getting the support of the rulers of the world 00:40:39.37\00:40:41.84 by using the talking points that they like. 00:40:41.87\00:40:45.94 Climate change, poverty, immigration, 00:40:45.97\00:40:51.58 those are the topics that the civil rulers enjoy. 00:40:51.61\00:40:55.88 This pope doesn't talk about euthanasia, 00:40:55.92\00:40:58.45 and about abortion, and about gay marriage. 00:40:58.49\00:41:02.49 In fact, when they asked him about gay marriage, 00:41:02.52\00:41:04.16 he says, "Who am I to judge?" 00:41:04.19\00:41:07.03 You remember that? 00:41:07.06\00:41:08.73 Those talking points, civil rulers don't like those. 00:41:08.76\00:41:12.83 But they love it when you talk about poverty, 00:41:12.87\00:41:15.04 when you talk about immigration and about climate change. 00:41:15.07\00:41:19.14 He wants to earn the support 00:41:19.17\00:41:21.44 of the civil powers of the world, 00:41:21.48\00:41:23.18 beginning with the United States. 00:41:23.21\00:41:24.55 The only problem is Donald Trump 00:41:24.58\00:41:26.48 was a bump in the road 00:41:26.51\00:41:29.22 because he's totally opposite 00:41:29.25\00:41:30.89 of the pope in every particular. 00:41:30.92\00:41:33.92 I believe God has given us time. 00:41:33.96\00:41:36.66 God is saying, "Get down to business 00:41:36.69\00:41:38.03 and tell people about this." 00:41:38.06\00:41:42.16 Another statement by Ellen White, 00:41:42.20\00:41:44.83 volume five of the Testimonies, page 712. 00:41:44.87\00:41:48.10 She says, "When our nation 00:41:48.14\00:41:49.84 shall so abjure the principles of its government 00:41:49.87\00:41:53.44 as to enact a Sunday law, 00:41:53.48\00:41:56.21 Protestantism will in this act 00:41:56.24\00:42:00.25 join hands with popery," 00:42:00.28\00:42:02.82 and listen carefully now, 00:42:02.85\00:42:04.82 "it will be nothing else 00:42:04.85\00:42:07.26 than giving life to the tyranny." 00:42:07.29\00:42:11.49 Why would you have to give life to the tyranny? 00:42:11.53\00:42:15.46 You only give life to that which is dead, hello. 00:42:15.50\00:42:19.90 That's talking of the dead, healing of the wound. 00:42:19.93\00:42:22.87 "Giving life to the tyranny 00:42:22.90\00:42:25.27 which has long been eagerly watching 00:42:25.31\00:42:28.14 its opportunity to spring again into active despotism." 00:42:28.18\00:42:33.42 Spring again means 00:42:33.45\00:42:34.78 the deadly wound will be healed. 00:42:34.82\00:42:36.99 In another statement, Signs of the Times, page, 00:42:37.02\00:42:40.29 actually June 12, 1893. 00:42:40.32\00:42:42.59 She wrote, "Protestants will throw 00:42:42.62\00:42:44.79 their whole influence 00:42:44.83\00:42:46.16 and strength on the side of the papacy 00:42:46.19\00:42:48.50 by a national act," by the way, that's an act of Congress, 00:42:48.53\00:42:52.07 "by a national act enforcing the false Sabbath, 00:42:52.10\00:42:55.10 they will give life and vigor." 00:42:55.14\00:42:57.81 There you have again, the healing of the wound. 00:42:57.84\00:42:59.24 "They will give life and vigor to the corrupt faith of Rome, 00:42:59.27\00:43:03.21 reviving," there's the healing of the deadly wound, 00:43:03.24\00:43:07.02 "reviving her tyranny and oppression of conscience. 00:43:07.05\00:43:11.15 Then it will be time for God to work in mighty power 00:43:11.19\00:43:13.82 for the vindication of his truth." 00:43:13.86\00:43:19.29 Now, 00:43:19.33\00:43:21.20 I wanna read you a very interesting statement. 00:43:21.23\00:43:24.43 This statement was written by a Roman Catholic Jesuit, 00:43:24.47\00:43:29.94 who died a few years ago, 00:43:29.97\00:43:31.31 you're gonna recognize his name, Malachi Martin. 00:43:31.34\00:43:34.74 He wrote the book, "The Keys of This Blood." 00:43:34.78\00:43:37.05 He was an intimate personal friend 00:43:37.08\00:43:38.91 of Pope John Paul II. 00:43:38.95\00:43:41.52 In 1986, he wrote a very significant statement, 00:43:41.55\00:43:45.02 which he didn't even realize what he was commenting on, 00:43:45.05\00:43:49.12 but it's a powerful statement. 00:43:49.16\00:43:52.86 He's speaking about the deadly wound 00:43:52.89\00:43:54.23 that was given to the papacy and the healing of the wound, 00:43:54.26\00:43:56.26 although he doesn't realize it. 00:43:56.30\00:43:58.83 This is how it reads, 00:43:58.87\00:44:00.97 "For 1500 years and more, 00:44:01.00\00:44:04.87 papal Rome had kept as strong a hand as possible 00:44:04.91\00:44:10.58 in each local community around the wide world." 00:44:10.61\00:44:15.18 So how long had papal Rome kept stronghold 00:44:15.22\00:44:18.49 on every community in the world? 00:44:18.52\00:44:20.92 Every local community, 00:44:20.96\00:44:22.72 he says for 1500 years. 00:44:22.76\00:44:24.33 Now notice what he says, 00:44:24.36\00:44:26.53 "By and large, and admitting some exceptions." 00:44:26.56\00:44:30.27 He's writing this in 1986. 00:44:30.30\00:44:33.03 That has been the Roman view, 00:44:33.07\00:44:35.97 what had been the Roman view? 00:44:36.00\00:44:38.87 "Keeping a strong a hand as possible 00:44:38.91\00:44:40.78 in each local community around the wide world. 00:44:40.81\00:44:45.21 That had been the Roman view 00:44:45.25\00:44:47.48 until 200 years of inactivity 00:44:47.52\00:44:53.92 had been imposed upon the papacy 00:44:53.96\00:44:56.46 by the major secular powers of the world." 00:44:56.49\00:45:00.76 Are you understanding 00:45:00.80\00:45:02.13 the significance of that statement? 00:45:02.16\00:45:04.50 What he's saying is that for the last 200 years, 00:45:04.53\00:45:06.74 he's writing in 1986, 00:45:06.77\00:45:08.60 the papacy has been inactive. 00:45:08.64\00:45:10.07 Now talking about the Catholic Church, 00:45:13.24\00:45:15.64 talk about the papacy, 00:45:15.68\00:45:18.78 why is it been inactive? 00:45:18.81\00:45:20.85 He explains it, 00:45:20.88\00:45:22.38 200 years of inactivity 00:45:22.42\00:45:24.62 has been imposed upon the papacy 00:45:24.65\00:45:26.79 by the major secular powers of the world. 00:45:26.82\00:45:29.59 They put the handcuffs back on. 00:45:29.62\00:45:33.43 Incidentally, you know, what's interesting 00:45:33.46\00:45:35.00 about this statement of Malachi Martin 00:45:35.03\00:45:39.23 is if you go back from 1986, 00:45:39.27\00:45:43.67 200 years, 00:45:43.71\00:45:45.34 you're at the French Revolution. 00:45:45.37\00:45:49.11 What he's saying without realizing it 00:45:49.14\00:45:51.58 is that the French Revolution 00:45:51.61\00:45:53.95 actually imposed 200 years of inactivity 00:45:53.98\00:45:59.02 upon the papacy, 00:45:59.05\00:46:00.39 the major secular powers of the world. 00:46:00.42\00:46:04.73 So how will the handcuffs come off? 00:46:04.76\00:46:09.60 How are the handcuffs gonna come off? 00:46:09.63\00:46:13.47 Listen, folks, 00:46:13.50\00:46:15.47 not only did France withdraw its support of the papacy, 00:46:15.50\00:46:19.71 after France 00:46:19.74\00:46:21.08 withdrew its civil support of the papacy, 00:46:21.11\00:46:24.55 every nation in Europe 00:46:24.58\00:46:26.35 began establishing democratic governments 00:46:26.38\00:46:28.65 independent of the papacy. 00:46:28.68\00:46:30.09 Let me read you a statement here from Cardinal Manning. 00:46:30.12\00:46:33.79 He wrote this in 1862. 00:46:33.82\00:46:36.42 And he's lamenting the fact 00:46:36.46\00:46:39.26 that the countries in Europe 00:46:39.29\00:46:40.96 have forsaken the papacy in 1862. 00:46:41.00\00:46:44.60 This is what he wrote, 00:46:44.63\00:46:46.77 "See this Catholic Church, 00:46:46.80\00:46:49.27 this church of God, 00:46:49.30\00:46:51.64 feeble and weak, 00:46:51.67\00:46:53.91 rejected even by the very nations called Catholic. 00:46:53.94\00:46:59.21 There is Catholic France, 00:46:59.25\00:47:01.68 and Catholic Germany, 00:47:01.72\00:47:03.92 and Catholic Italy, 00:47:03.95\00:47:06.19 giving up this exploded figment of a temporal power 00:47:06.22\00:47:09.66 of the Vicar of Jesus Christ." 00:47:09.69\00:47:11.79 Those have given up the idea 00:47:11.83\00:47:13.40 that the Vicar of Christ has temporal power. 00:47:13.43\00:47:16.73 "And so because the church seems weak," why? 00:47:16.77\00:47:21.27 Because it has a deadly wound, of course, 00:47:21.30\00:47:22.64 he doesn't know he's commenting on this. 00:47:22.67\00:47:25.11 "And so, because the church seems weak 00:47:25.14\00:47:28.04 and the Vicar of the Son of God 00:47:28.08\00:47:29.84 is renewing the passion of his master upon earth," 00:47:29.88\00:47:32.45 because he's being persecuted, 00:47:32.48\00:47:34.55 "therefore, we are scandalized, 00:47:34.58\00:47:36.82 therefore we turn our faces from him." 00:47:36.85\00:47:42.29 Not only was the papacy forsaken by France, 00:47:42.32\00:47:47.66 all of the civil powers of Europe 00:47:47.70\00:47:49.66 and the United States withdrew their support 00:47:49.70\00:47:55.50 and chained the papacy once again. 00:47:55.54\00:47:59.37 Now, what about the healing of the deadly wound? 00:47:59.41\00:48:03.18 The history of the papacy in order to complete, 00:48:03.21\00:48:05.01 the man of sin will manifest himself in a second stage. 00:48:05.05\00:48:07.78 You have to go beyond 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2, 00:48:07.82\00:48:10.42 to understand this. 00:48:10.45\00:48:12.49 Revelation Chapter 17 presents the scenario 00:48:12.52\00:48:15.19 how it's going to happen. 00:48:15.22\00:48:17.76 Revelation 17 speaks about a harlot, 00:48:17.79\00:48:21.96 that's the papacy. 00:48:22.00\00:48:24.00 Her name is Babylon, 00:48:24.03\00:48:27.67 worldwide system even according to Dave Hunt the futurist. 00:48:27.70\00:48:31.57 She sits on many waters, what does that mean? 00:48:31.61\00:48:35.11 Oh, she rules over nations, tongues and people. 00:48:35.14\00:48:40.25 She has an adulterous spiritual relationship 00:48:40.28\00:48:42.82 with the kings of the earth. 00:48:42.85\00:48:44.19 She fornicates with the kings of the earth, 00:48:44.22\00:48:46.45 it says there. 00:48:46.49\00:48:48.39 She has in her hand, 00:48:48.42\00:48:50.26 a golden cup full of her abominations, 00:48:50.29\00:48:55.16 wine, fermented wine, 00:48:55.20\00:48:57.30 which represents false doctrine. 00:48:57.33\00:48:59.57 She's adorned with purple and scarlet, 00:48:59.60\00:49:01.24 have you ever noticed the colors 00:49:01.27\00:49:02.60 that the papacy uses, 00:49:02.64\00:49:03.97 they never use blue 00:49:04.01\00:49:06.64 because blue represents the law of God. 00:49:06.68\00:49:10.25 It's always purple and scarlet. 00:49:10.28\00:49:13.88 So it says, she's clothed in purple and scarlet 00:49:13.92\00:49:16.65 filled with gold and precious stones. 00:49:16.69\00:49:19.65 And by the way, she has daughters, 00:49:19.69\00:49:21.36 because she is the mother of harlots. 00:49:21.39\00:49:25.33 So you have this trilogy, 00:49:25.36\00:49:27.00 the kings of the earth, 00:49:27.03\00:49:29.06 she fornicates with the kings of the earth, 00:49:29.10\00:49:31.53 and she has daughters that do her bidding, 00:49:31.57\00:49:37.11 and she's gonna be filled with the blood of the saints 00:49:37.14\00:49:39.17 and the martyrs of Jesus according to Revelation 17:6, 00:49:39.21\00:49:42.11 she's gonna do what she did in the past. 00:49:42.14\00:49:45.71 Let me read you a statement from Ellen White. 00:49:45.75\00:49:49.18 Great Controversy 564, 00:49:49.22\00:49:50.59 Ellen White tells us 00:49:50.62\00:49:51.95 how the restraint will be removed, 00:49:51.99\00:49:53.52 how the papacy will receive its power again. 00:49:53.56\00:49:56.12 If the deadly wound means 00:49:56.16\00:49:58.16 that the civil power withdrew its support, 00:49:58.19\00:50:00.70 the healing of a wound means that the secular power 00:50:00.73\00:50:03.20 is gonna give the support again. 00:50:03.23\00:50:05.77 Listen to this statement, Great Controversy, page 564. 00:50:05.80\00:50:09.77 "Let the restraints 00:50:09.80\00:50:12.41 now imposed by secular governments 00:50:12.44\00:50:15.21 be removed." 00:50:15.24\00:50:18.65 What? 00:50:18.68\00:50:20.15 Let the What? 00:50:20.18\00:50:21.82 The restraints imposed by whom? 00:50:21.85\00:50:26.29 By the secular governments upon whom? 00:50:26.32\00:50:29.59 Upon the papacy. 00:50:29.62\00:50:32.13 "And Rome be reinstated." 00:50:32.16\00:50:36.10 What does reinstated mean? 00:50:36.13\00:50:37.53 Once again occupy the position that she had. 00:50:40.74\00:50:44.21 Let the restraints now imposed 00:50:44.24\00:50:46.24 by secular governments be removed 00:50:46.27\00:50:49.51 and Rome be reinstated in her former power, 00:50:49.54\00:50:53.21 and there would speedily be a revival 00:50:53.25\00:50:56.65 of her tyranny and persecution." 00:50:56.69\00:50:59.75 What is that that restraints the papacy today? 00:50:59.79\00:51:03.22 The secular government, 00:51:03.26\00:51:05.23 but if the secular governments remove that restraint, 00:51:05.26\00:51:10.00 it will be a revival of her tyranny and persecution 00:51:10.03\00:51:13.47 because she will use the civil powers 00:51:13.50\00:51:15.27 like she used them in the past 00:51:15.30\00:51:18.07 and that is the ultimate goal of the papacy, 00:51:18.11\00:51:23.24 even though it's not overt, 00:51:23.28\00:51:25.21 you can't see it on the surface 00:51:25.25\00:51:27.22 but that is ultimately the purpose. 00:51:27.25\00:51:31.62 Now, the best way in the Bible to understand this binding 00:51:31.65\00:51:36.56 and unbinding of the papacy 00:51:36.59\00:51:40.23 is by going to the Bible itself. 00:51:40.26\00:51:43.30 You know, we read statements from historians, 00:51:43.33\00:51:45.10 the early church fathers. 00:51:45.13\00:51:47.00 We read this statement from Ellen White 00:51:47.04\00:51:48.60 where she says that the civil powers 00:51:48.64\00:51:50.57 were the ones that restraint 00:51:50.61\00:51:51.94 and if the restraint is taken away, 00:51:51.97\00:51:53.74 in other words as the civil power 00:51:53.78\00:51:55.11 support the system again, 00:51:55.14\00:51:56.48 she's going to act like she did in the past. 00:51:56.51\00:51:58.08 So we've read from historians and from Ellen White. 00:51:58.11\00:52:00.45 How do we get this from the Bible though? 00:52:00.48\00:52:03.49 The best way is by going to Revelation Chapter 20 00:52:03.52\00:52:07.86 where you have a mention of chains and prison. 00:52:07.89\00:52:13.46 By the way does Revelation 13 say that he 00:52:13.50\00:52:15.93 who leads into captivity will be taken into captivity? 00:52:15.96\00:52:20.44 He who wounds with a sword will be wounded with the sword. 00:52:20.47\00:52:23.47 So it's speaking about the papacy 00:52:23.51\00:52:24.84 going into what? 00:52:24.87\00:52:26.31 Into captivity in 1798. 00:52:26.34\00:52:30.41 What does that mean? 00:52:30.45\00:52:31.81 It's gonna be thrown into what? 00:52:31.85\00:52:33.82 Prison. 00:52:33.85\00:52:35.28 Why was the papacy thrown into prison in 1798? 00:52:35.32\00:52:38.42 Because she lost in support of what? 00:52:38.45\00:52:41.09 Of the civil powers. 00:52:41.12\00:52:43.19 Now, Revelation 20 is the key to understand this. 00:52:43.22\00:52:47.03 Let me ask you, does the devil have a lot of power these days? 00:52:47.06\00:52:50.93 Does he have a lot of power? 00:52:50.97\00:52:52.63 He's got plenty of power. 00:52:52.67\00:52:54.37 Where does the power of the devil reside? 00:52:54.40\00:52:57.64 In the fact that he's able to use 00:52:57.67\00:52:59.64 the civil powers of the world to accomplish his purpose. 00:52:59.67\00:53:04.58 How did he accomplish the intent to kill Moses? 00:53:04.61\00:53:09.45 By using Pharaoh. 00:53:09.48\00:53:11.59 How did he attempt to kill Jesus when He was born? 00:53:11.62\00:53:15.02 By using Rome. 00:53:15.06\00:53:17.03 So as long as Satan has the support 00:53:17.06\00:53:21.03 of the kings of the world, he's free. 00:53:21.06\00:53:26.40 Are you with me? 00:53:26.43\00:53:29.47 But in Revelation 20, it says 00:53:29.50\00:53:31.27 that he is gonna be thrown in prison 00:53:31.31\00:53:33.21 and he's gonna be chained. 00:53:33.24\00:53:35.74 What does that mean, 00:53:35.78\00:53:37.11 he's gonna be thrown in prison and he's gonna be chained? 00:53:37.15\00:53:40.98 We already studied the millennium. 00:53:41.02\00:53:43.99 It means that all of his power base 00:53:44.02\00:53:47.16 is going to be what? 00:53:47.19\00:53:50.03 Is gonna be killed when Jesus comes. 00:53:50.06\00:53:53.06 Is he going to have any kings to deceive? 00:53:53.09\00:53:56.67 What is the power base of the devil? 00:53:56.70\00:53:59.73 The power base of the devil is using the civil powers 00:53:59.77\00:54:02.97 to accomplish His purpose. 00:54:03.00\00:54:05.41 But when Jesus comes, all of the nations of the earth 00:54:05.44\00:54:09.61 will be destroyed 00:54:09.64\00:54:12.01 and therefore Satan, will be what? 00:54:12.05\00:54:14.48 Bound. 00:54:14.52\00:54:16.62 What does the losing of Satan mean after the millennium? 00:54:16.65\00:54:21.39 After the millennium, what happens 00:54:21.42\00:54:23.09 with his power base? 00:54:23.12\00:54:24.46 All of those that he was deprived 00:54:24.49\00:54:25.83 of at the second coming? 00:54:25.86\00:54:27.96 Oh, now they all resurrect. 00:54:28.00\00:54:31.73 And he says, "Hey, I got my kings back. 00:54:31.77\00:54:35.97 I got the civil power back." 00:54:36.00\00:54:39.77 So for the devil to be bound 00:54:39.81\00:54:41.61 means that he loses his power base. 00:54:41.64\00:54:45.15 To be loosed means 00:54:45.18\00:54:47.52 that he has the power base back. 00:54:47.55\00:54:51.15 Revelation itself explains what the deadly wound is 00:54:51.19\00:54:54.56 and how the deadly would is healed. 00:54:54.59\00:54:56.99 It has to do with whether the papacy 00:54:57.03\00:54:58.73 is able to use civil powers of the world or not. 00:54:58.76\00:55:04.57 So this is the second stage 00:55:04.60\00:55:08.00 which the Apostle Paul doesn't directly describe, 00:55:08.04\00:55:11.64 but we can understand that he's also including 00:55:11.67\00:55:13.88 that because the Bible tells us that this system, this power, 00:55:13.91\00:55:18.21 this man of sin will be destroyed 00:55:18.25\00:55:19.68 by the brightness of Christ's coming 00:55:19.71\00:55:21.05 so he must be ruling at the Second Coming. 00:55:21.08\00:55:23.92 But Revelation tells us that he has two stages 00:55:23.95\00:55:26.25 and in between there's a period of inactivity. 00:55:26.29\00:55:30.49 Is this making sense? 00:55:30.53\00:55:32.26 It's biblical. 00:55:32.29\00:55:33.63 The Adventist view is rock solid, folks. 00:55:33.66\00:55:37.43 The world needs to know it. 00:55:37.47\00:55:38.80 It's historicism. 00:55:38.83\00:55:41.74 It's not futurism, futurism, you know, 00:55:41.77\00:55:44.61 it's like sitting on a limb and sign it up 00:55:44.64\00:55:49.44 because you have no place to begin. 00:55:49.48\00:55:51.61 You say, okay, you know, 00:55:51.65\00:55:53.52 it carries you to the Roman Empire. 00:55:53.55\00:55:55.68 And then the prophecy is suspended 00:55:55.72\00:55:57.55 How do you know when it begins again? 00:55:57.59\00:56:01.76 History is irrelevant 00:56:01.79\00:56:03.66 because you don't have any reference point 00:56:03.69\00:56:06.66 but when you have historicism, 00:56:06.70\00:56:09.10 it makes all the sense in the world, 00:56:09.13\00:56:10.53 Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, the Roman Empire, 00:56:10.57\00:56:13.84 the ten divisions of Rome, 00:56:13.87\00:56:16.10 the little horn, 1260 years, 00:56:16.14\00:56:19.27 1798, the civil powers withdraw their support, 00:56:19.31\00:56:23.14 the deadly wound is imposed for the last 200 years 00:56:23.18\00:56:27.42 plus there's been peace because the papacy 00:56:27.45\00:56:31.19 is not been able to use its civil powers of the world, 00:56:31.22\00:56:33.96 but the United States 00:56:33.99\00:56:35.32 will return the sword to the papacy 00:56:35.36\00:56:37.23 and the papacy will act the way she did in the past. 00:56:37.26\00:56:42.76 Is it making sense? 00:56:42.80\00:56:45.43 And then will come the time of trouble 00:56:45.47\00:56:47.24 such as never has been seen in the history of the world 00:56:47.27\00:56:52.37 and when it appears that God's people 00:56:52.41\00:56:53.81 are gonna be wiped out, 00:56:53.84\00:56:56.85 Michael is gonna stand up. 00:56:56.88\00:56:58.21 When the king of the north comes to seek to annihilate 00:56:58.25\00:57:01.02 and destroy many, according to Daniel 11, 00:57:01.05\00:57:03.49 the last few verses, 00:57:03.52\00:57:04.85 Michael is gonna stand up and say, 00:57:04.89\00:57:06.22 "Hey, those are my people, don't touch him. 00:57:06.25\00:57:10.39 If you touch them, you touched the apple of my eye." 00:57:10.43\00:57:14.86 And so Jesus now rises to defend His people. 00:57:14.90\00:57:18.03 That doesn't mean that God's people 00:57:18.07\00:57:19.40 are not gonna go through the time of trouble. 00:57:19.43\00:57:21.04 The prophecy says that God's people 00:57:21.07\00:57:22.47 will go through a time of trouble. 00:57:22.50\00:57:23.84 Jesus will not allow them to die, 00:57:23.87\00:57:25.84 but their faith will be tried 00:57:25.87\00:57:29.34 but then finally at the end of trouble, 00:57:29.38\00:57:31.41 of the time of trouble, 00:57:31.45\00:57:33.95 Jesus will deliver His people. 00:57:33.98\00:57:36.28 And by the way, the final deadly wound 00:57:36.32\00:57:40.52 is when the kings of the earth according o Revelation 17:16, 00:57:40.56\00:57:43.89 when they discover that the harlot has deceived them, 00:57:43.93\00:57:47.00 the Bible says that they will turn against the harlot 00:57:47.03\00:57:49.60 and they will make her naked and desolate, 00:57:49.63\00:57:52.97 and they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 00:57:53.00\00:57:55.84 That means that they're going to be really mad. 00:57:55.87\00:57:59.27 She will lose the support of the civil powers once again. 00:57:59.31\00:58:02.51