Well, welcome again.
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This is our second
presentation this evening
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and the title of our study
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is "Protestantism's
Prophetic Apostasy,"
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and this will be part one.
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In our next presentation
we will do part two.
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Before we begin though,
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we do want to
have a word of prayer
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to ask the Lord to
bless our study together
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and help us see its importance.
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So I invite you to reverently
bow your head as we pray.
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Father in heaven, what
a joy it is to be here.
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How wonderful it
is to have Your Word,
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a sure guide,
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an anchor that holds
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in this world
that is so confused.
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Father, we hid the
message under a bushel.
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We've hid the
light under a bushel.
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I ask Lord that You will help us
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to announce it from the rooftops
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that people might know
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what the final
events will be like.
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They will make a total
and complete commitment
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to Jesus Christ
as Savior and Lord.
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We ask that You
will bless our study,
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You will be with us,
open our minds and hearts
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and give us Your
power to proclaim
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that which we learn.
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We pray this in the
precious name of Jesus,
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amen.
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Before we
actually begin our study,
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I would like to mention a book
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that I wrote just a
brief few years ago.
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It's called
Futurism's Incredible Journey.
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And you know,
some people have asked
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whether Ellen White was aware
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of the dangers of
preterism and futurism,
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whether Ellen White knew
that there were individuals
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who were trying to project
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the fulfillment of
prophecy to the past
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and project the fulfillment
of prophecy to the future.
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And Ellen White
definitely did know
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about the two different systems.
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In this book, I've
included an appendix
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at the end of the book,
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where you have
a two part article
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written by Ellen White,
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and this article is actually
a testimony to John Bell.
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He was a school teacher.
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And he was
delving into futurism.
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He was a Seventh-day Adventist
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but he was taking prophecies
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that had been
fulfilled in the past
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that he was
projecting them to the future.
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And he was taking prophecies
that were still future
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and he was saying that
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they were fulfilled in the past.
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And Ellen White had some really
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interesting
things to say about that,
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and about the importance
of understanding prophecy
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as a prophetic chain,
one link after another
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without any parentheses,
without any interruption.
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Also in this book, we
have at the end of the book,
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the tremendous implications
of abandoning historicism
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and embracing
preterism and futurism.
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I'm not gonna cover
all of those points here,
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but I specifically show
how preterism and futurism
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not only destroy
the reformers' view
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of Bible prophecy
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but actually destroys
every distinctive truth
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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And so this I consider it to
be an extremely important book.
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And you might
want to obtain a copy
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and read the book to
see the extreme importance
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of what we are studying here.
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Now we want to study
about Protestantism's
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prophetic apostasy.
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And actually, most of
our study is going to deal
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with the Roman
Catholic Counter Reformation.
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In other words,
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where the Roman
Catholic churches attempt,
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the papacies
attempt to overthrow
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the Protestant interpretation
of Bible prophecy,
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to overthrow historicism
or what I like to call
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the historical flow method.
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Within a
relatively short period,
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the Roman Catholic Church,
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as I was mentioning at
the end of our last study,
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lost thousands of
members to Protestantism.
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In fact, the
Roman Catholic Church
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lost entire nations in Europe
to the Protestant Reformation.
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And so the Roman Catholic papacy
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reached the conclusion that
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somehow they had to
deflect the accusing finger,
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the incriminating
finger from the papacy
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as the fulfillment of
the Antichrist prophecies
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to other individuals.
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You see, the biblical
evidence, as we've noticed,
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was extremely compelling.
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The reformers could see
the sequence of Bible prophecy
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and they could
see that the actions
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of the Roman Catholic papacy
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was a precise
fulfillment of what we find
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in the different
passages about the Antichrist.
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And so the Roman Catholic Church
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prepared a
strategy to a no historicism
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as the prophetic method of
interpreting Bible prophecy.
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After the
Protestant Reformation,
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not long, actually,
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after the beginning of
the Protestant Reformation,
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which most scholars
believe is what was it 1517
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when Martin Luther
nailed his 95 theses
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to the cathedral
door in Wittenberg.
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Not long after that,
actually, in the year 1545,
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the Roman Catholic
Church actually convened
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in the city of
Trento, we know it as Trent
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and they celebrated an
ecclesiastical council.
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The purpose of that council
was to reaffirm the theology
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of the doctrines, the dogmas,
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the Roman
Catholic Church calls them
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dogmas of the
Roman Catholic Church
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to counteract the
Protestant teachings,
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doctrinal teachings
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that arose
during the Reformation.
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And so they had this
very important council.
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It's the longest council
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in the history of the
Roman Catholic Church.
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It lasted for 18
years from 1545 to 1563.
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And the evolved
purpose was to reaffirm
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the dogmas of the church
and to pronounce an anathema
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that is a curse upon
everybody who did not agree
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with the teachings of
the Roman Catholic Church.
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Now the Council of Trent
did not as far as I know,
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I haven't read all of
the councilor declarations
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of the Council of Trent.
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But as far as I
know, they did not reach
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any firm conclusions
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on the interpretation
of Bible prophecy.
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At that point, they had
not established preterism
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or futurism as a method
of interpreting prophecy
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to counteract
Protestant historicism.
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You see, 11 years approximately
before this council began,
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in the year 1534,
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an individual whose name
you probably will recognize,
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you definitely will recognize
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the society that he established.
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His name was
St. Ignatius Loyola.
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In 1534, he
founded the Jesuit order.
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It's actually called
the Society of Jesus.
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And the purpose of
the Society of Jesus
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was clearly to
overturn the Reformation.
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The entire purpose was to crush
the Protestant Reformation.
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In fact, even to this day,
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if you visit St.
Peter's Basilica,
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I was there several years ago.
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Actually, I've
only been there once.
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But when you go
into the Basilica,
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there's this big
area beyond the entrance
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that goes to the very front
to the symbolic people throne.
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There is a boy up high,
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and you have a statue
of St. Ignatius Loyola,
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and Loyola, it has his foot
on the head of a Protestant.
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In fact, what that is
saying is that the purpose
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of the Jesuit order
was to crush Protestantism.
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And the Jesuit,
they were the most
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well-trained of all the
Roman Catholic scholars.
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Now, Ellen White had something
very interesting to say
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about the Jesuits.
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We find in the
book Great Controversy,
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pages 234 and 235,
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Ellen White's
description of the purpose
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why the Roman Catholic Society
of Jesus was established.
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Here is what she wrote
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and I'm not reading
the entire statement.
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I'm reading only the portions
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that deal with what
we're talking about.
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Throughout Christendom,
Protestantism was menaced
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by formidable foes.
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The first triumphs
of the Reformation past,
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Rome summoned new forces
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hoping to
accomplish its destruction.
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So why was it
rallying its forces?
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To destroy what? Protestantism.
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She continues writing.
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At this time, the order
of the Jesuits was created,
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the most cruel, unscrupulous,
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and powerful of all
the champions of popery.
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Vowed to perpetual
poverty and humility,
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it was their studied aim
to secure wealth and power
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to be devoted to the
overthrow of Protestantism,
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and the re-establishment
of the papal supremacy.
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So what was the
purpose of the establishment
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of the Jesuit order
or the Society of Jesus?
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Once again, to
overthrow Protestantism
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and reestablish
the papal supremacy.
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And then she ends
the quote by saying,
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"The Jesuits rapidly
spread themselves over Europe,
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and wherever they went,
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there followed a
revival of popery."
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Now, popery is an expression
that was used in the times
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of Ellen White to
describe the papacy.
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So, if you're wondering
what the word popery means,
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it basically means the papacy,
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and so we find that
the Jesuit order rises.
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And by the way,
these days the Jesuit order
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is the most powerful order
in the Roman Catholic Church.
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You're all aware of
the fact that Benedict XVI
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resigned as pope.
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You know, many people think
that the reason why Francis I,
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I mean, why Francis I
took the place of Benedict XVI
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before Benedict's death
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was because
Benedict was all caught up
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in this child
abuse, sexual abuse thing.
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But there's
something far deeper.
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And that is
that the Jesuit order
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actually manipulated things
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so that a Jesuit
would become pope,
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the first Jesuit in history.
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And by the way,
I don't have time
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to get into this right now.
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But Secrets
Unsealed has published
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a series of articles,
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I write long
articles for our newsletter.
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And in two of those articles,
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I show very clearly
what this pope's strategy is
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to destroy Protestantism
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and to recover the power
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that the Roman
Catholic papacy lost
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when it received
the deadly wound.
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It's an interesting story,
this pope is a different pope
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than any other one
that we've had before.
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His talking
points are different.
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You know, Benedict
XVI and John Paul II,
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you know, they spoke
about against abortion
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and they spoke
against gay marriage
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and they spoke
against euthanasia,
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you know, all
these social issues.
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This pope doesn't
deal with those issues.
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This pope deals with
issues such as climate change,
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such as immigration,
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such as, you
know, helping the poor.
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He says virtually
nothing about abortion,
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or euthanasia, or gay marriage.
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And there's a
strategy behind that.
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You see, the civil
powers of the world
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do not like any
talk about abortion,
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and gay
marriage, and euthanasia,
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because they're in favor of it.
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And the papacy wants
to, they have to win over
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the political
powers of the world
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in order to regain
the power that they lost,
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because the deadly would
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is the loss of the
support of the civil power.
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So this pope is
talking about things
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that interest the
political leaders of the world
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so that he can win them over
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and he can once
again use their sword
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to recover the
power that he lost.
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Now, this is
kind of a side light
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of what we're studying
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but the fact is that, you
know, the Roman Catholic papacy
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has allowed the facts
to guard the in-house,
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and that is a
very dangerous thing,
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as you can surmise.
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Now, the Jesuit
order actually spawned
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two very notable scholars
that would write documents
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or books to attempt to overturn
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the prophetic method of
the Protestant Reformers.
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The first of these, his
name was Luis Del Alcázar,
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or as the Spaniards would
probably properly pronounce it,
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Luis Del Alcázar.
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That's the way the C
and the Z is pronounced
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in the Spanish from Spain.
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But anyway, this individual
had great theological cunning.
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It was his
intention to overthrow
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the Protestant method of
interpreting Bible prophecy.
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He wrote a 900
page Bible commentary
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on the Book of Revelation.
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The name of that
commentary was "An investigation
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of the hidden
sense of the apocalypse."
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In this volume, Alcázar affirmed
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that the Antichrist
prophecies of Daniel
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and Revelation
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found their fulfillment
long before his time.
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This system of interpretation
is known as preterism,
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the idea that the
Antichrist prophecies
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were fulfilled in the past.
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Alcázar believed
00:14:46.25\00:14:48.38
that the little horn of Daniel 7
00:14:48.42\00:14:52.22
represented a nasty individual
00:14:52.25\00:14:55.32
that arose in
the Maccabean period.
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His name was
Antiochus Epiphanes.
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In fact, he ruled
from 171 BC to 164 BC.
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You know, he sacrificed
a pig in the Jewish temple,
00:15:07.77\00:15:11.37
he persecuted the Jews,
00:15:11.41\00:15:13.54
he suspended the
sacrificial system
00:15:13.58\00:15:16.88
and so they say the
little horn of Daniel 7
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that did all these
things was Antiochus Epiphanes.
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Now when it comes to
the Book of Revelation,
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this is different because
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Antiochus
Epiphanes had passed away
00:15:29.66\00:15:32.23
and so now,
Alcázar had to find a way
00:15:32.26\00:15:35.56
to interpret the
prophecies of Revelation.
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And basically what he said
is that the Book of Revelation,
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everything in the
Book of Revelation
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was fulfilled by
the 6th century AD.
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In fact, he
believed that the Antichrist
00:15:48.24\00:15:52.71
of Revelation Chapter 13,
the beast of Revelation 13
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was probably Nero,
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because there was this tradition
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supposedly in Rome,
00:16:00.89\00:16:02.66
that Nero was going to resurrect
00:16:02.69\00:16:06.23
or come back from the dead
00:16:06.26\00:16:08.33
and he was gonna
do what the Bible says
00:16:08.36\00:16:11.63
about the little horn
00:16:11.67\00:16:13.00
after it recovered
from its deadly wound.
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And so he established
this counterfeit system
00:16:16.17\00:16:19.11
of interpreting prophecy.
00:16:19.14\00:16:21.04
Of course, if the little horn
and the beast were fulfilled
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way back in the
Old Testament period,
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and early in the
Christian period,
00:16:29.58\00:16:33.15
these prophecies
were not fulfilled
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with the papacy.
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Are you understanding
what he's trying to do?
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He's saying,
"No, the little horn?
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No, that's not us. That
was Antiochus Epiphanes.
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Oh, no, beast, no
that has nothing to do
00:16:45.53\00:16:47.57
with the Roman Catholic papacy,
the beast, that was Nero."
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You know, when he passed away
that prophecy was fulfilled.
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And so by projecting
the Antichrist prophecies
00:16:55.21\00:16:59.01
to the past,
00:16:59.05\00:17:00.48
both to the Old Testament
intertestamental period,
00:17:00.52\00:17:03.75
and the early period
of the Christian church,
00:17:03.79\00:17:07.36
as well as the times of the fall
00:17:07.39\00:17:10.59
of the Roman Empire.
00:17:10.63\00:17:12.16
He deflected the
finger from the papacy
00:17:12.19\00:17:15.73
to these
individuals in the past.
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Now, it's
interesting that today,
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the choice method of
the Roman Catholic Church
00:17:24.27\00:17:27.38
of interpreting
prophecy is preterism.
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I don't know of
very many Roman Catholics
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that are futurists,
00:17:34.38\00:17:35.72
we're gonna come back
to talk about futurism
00:17:35.75\00:17:37.55
in a few moments.
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Roman Catholics if you
read their commentaries,
00:17:39.12\00:17:41.69
and I'm gonna
give you some examples,
00:17:41.72\00:17:43.59
these days are preterists.
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Not only are Roman
Catholics preterists,
00:17:46.83\00:17:49.50
but we're gonna notice
in our next presentation,
00:17:49.53\00:17:52.43
that the great
Protestant mainline churches
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like for example, the Lutherans,
00:17:57.11\00:17:59.67
the Methodists,
the Presbyterians,
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those churches have also imbibed
00:18:03.51\00:18:06.41
the preterist method of
interpreting Bible prophecy.
00:18:06.45\00:18:09.38
And I'm going to show
you from several commentaries
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in our next
presentation how Protestantism,
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the mainline
churches of Protestantism
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have imbibed
preterism as their choice method
00:18:18.49\00:18:23.16
of interpreting Bible prophecy.
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Let me just give
you a few examples here.
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The New American Bible,
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which is a Roman Catholic Bible,
00:18:31.84\00:18:33.98
has a very
interesting translation
00:18:34.01\00:18:37.25
of Daniel 7:25.
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Daniel 7:25 is translated
in this Roman Catholic Bible
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and by the way, folks,
00:18:44.82\00:18:46.86
many of the
modern Protestant Bibles
00:18:46.89\00:18:49.56
translated in the same way.
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This is the translation.
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"He shall speak
against the Most High
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and oppress the holy
ones of the Most High,
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thinking to change the
feast days and the law."
00:19:01.70\00:19:07.51
Interesting.
00:19:07.54\00:19:09.81
And Protestant versions
translate in the same way.
00:19:09.84\00:19:13.45
Not all of them,
but many of them do.
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I'm gonna give
you several examples.
00:19:16.38\00:19:19.05
Now concerning the
times and the laws,
00:19:19.09\00:19:22.46
that the little
horn attempted to change,
00:19:22.49\00:19:25.23
this is the interpretation
that the Jerusalem Bible gives.
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The Jerusalem Bible is
a Roman Catholic Bible.
00:19:28.40\00:19:30.93
Now notice how this
Roman Catholic Bible
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in a footnote explains the times
00:19:32.90\00:19:36.74
in which, the times which
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the little horn
attempted to change,
00:19:39.71\00:19:41.58
I read, "The Hellenizing policy
00:19:41.61\00:19:46.68
of Antiochus Epiphanes
00:19:46.72\00:19:49.35
included a ban
00:19:49.38\00:19:51.02
on the observance of the Sabbath
00:19:51.05\00:19:53.46
and the feast days."
00:19:53.49\00:19:56.39
So in other words, he's
saying, "You know, this idea of,
00:19:56.42\00:20:00.30
you know, changing the times.
00:20:00.33\00:20:02.23
Well, that has to
do with the feasts."
00:20:02.26\00:20:04.80
And by the way, the word shaman,
00:20:04.83\00:20:06.70
the word time is used
to refer to the feasts.
00:20:06.74\00:20:11.21
But to translate the
word time with feasts
00:20:11.24\00:20:14.78
is an interpretation.
00:20:14.81\00:20:16.24
It is not a translation.
00:20:16.28\00:20:18.41
Now, there's more.
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How does that preterist's view
00:20:21.35\00:20:23.55
explain the four
beasts of Daniel 7?
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This is very interesting.
00:20:26.19\00:20:30.26
In a footnote of
the Jerusalem Bible,
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we are told that the
first beast of Daniel 7
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represents
Babylon, so far so good.
00:20:36.77\00:20:41.27
The second beast, the
bear represents the Medes.
00:20:41.30\00:20:48.14
The leopard
represents the Persians.
00:20:48.18\00:20:52.45
And the dragon,
listen carefully,
00:20:52.48\00:20:54.98
represents the empire
of Alexander the Great,
00:20:55.02\00:20:59.99
and the 10 horns
are the 10 kingdoms
00:21:00.02\00:21:02.92
of a Seleucid dynasty.
00:21:02.96\00:21:07.73
Interesting.
00:21:07.76\00:21:09.70
So the dragon beast
according to preterism
00:21:09.73\00:21:12.67
is Greece
00:21:12.70\00:21:15.20
and the 10 horns are the 10
Seleucid kingdoms of Greece.
00:21:15.24\00:21:20.41
And then it says,
"That the little horn,
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there rises among
the 10 and above the 10
00:21:23.78\00:21:26.72
is Antiochus Epiphanes."
00:21:26.75\00:21:29.58
That is the
preterist's interpretation.
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What does that do?
00:21:31.95\00:21:33.69
It totally
eliminates the Roman Empire
00:21:33.72\00:21:36.02
from Bible prophecy.
00:21:36.06\00:21:38.36
It eliminates the 10 horns
00:21:38.39\00:21:40.30
being the
divisions of Western Europe.
00:21:40.33\00:21:42.93
And it eliminates also
the idea that the little horn
00:21:42.96\00:21:46.40
that rises among the 10
00:21:46.43\00:21:48.34
represents the
Roman Catholic papacy.
00:21:48.37\00:21:52.37
How in the world
can the preterist's
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Roman Catholic Jerusalem Bible
00:21:56.38\00:21:58.45
say that the first
kingdom is Babylon,
00:21:58.48\00:22:00.82
the second kingdom is
the Persians, and the third,
00:22:00.85\00:22:04.89
the Medes and the third
kingdom are the Persians,
00:22:04.92\00:22:08.12
and the fourth
kingdom is Greece.
00:22:08.16\00:22:10.36
It doesn't fit with history,
00:22:10.39\00:22:12.53
because Revelation
Chapter 12 tells us
00:22:12.56\00:22:14.56
that the dragon
beast represents Rome.
00:22:14.60\00:22:16.77
It's the power
that tried to kill
00:22:16.80\00:22:18.33
the child that the
woman was gonna have.
00:22:18.37\00:22:21.14
And so we know
that the dragon beast
00:22:21.17\00:22:22.94
with 10 horns represents Rome.
00:22:22.97\00:22:25.11
But preterism says,
"No, it represents Greece
00:22:25.14\00:22:27.88
and the 10 horns
are 10 divisions,
00:22:27.91\00:22:29.88
the 10 kingdoms
of the Greek dynasty,
00:22:29.91\00:22:33.45
and the little horn
represents Antiochus Epiphanes."
00:22:33.48\00:22:36.55
Now, how does preterism
00:22:36.58\00:22:39.15
interpret the
three and a half times,
00:22:39.19\00:22:40.86
the time times
and dividing of time?
00:22:40.89\00:22:44.43
Once again, I'm reading
from the Jerusalem Bible,
00:22:44.46\00:22:48.33
three and a half years,
the approximate duration
00:22:48.36\00:22:53.03
of the persecution
under Antiochus Epiphanes
00:22:53.07\00:22:56.87
but the fact is,
00:22:56.91\00:22:58.57
and I learned this from
Dr. Waterhouse and his classes,
00:22:58.61\00:23:02.11
the fact is that
Antiochus Epiphanes
00:23:02.14\00:23:04.18
only was there for three years,
not three and a half years.
00:23:04.21\00:23:09.28
So you notice the statement says
00:23:09.32\00:23:11.29
three and a half years
the approximate duration,
00:23:11.32\00:23:13.76
God doesn't deal
in approximations.
00:23:13.79\00:23:17.29
When He gives time prophecies,
He's precise and exact.
00:23:17.33\00:23:22.06
But it says
three and a half years
00:23:22.10\00:23:23.57
the approximate duration
00:23:23.60\00:23:25.70
of the persecution
under Antiochus Epiphanes,
00:23:25.73\00:23:29.90
but this period of time,
also expressed as 42 months,
00:23:29.94\00:23:35.11
stands for a
temporary time of persecution,
00:23:35.14\00:23:38.55
with a limit set
by God's providence.
00:23:38.58\00:23:41.88
It waters away the idea
00:23:41.92\00:23:43.89
that the three and a
half times are precise.
00:23:43.92\00:23:46.35
They begin at a certain date,
and they end at a certain date.
00:23:46.39\00:23:51.39
Now, the Roman Catholic
Church has a commentary,
00:23:51.43\00:23:54.20
a renowned commentary called
the Jerome Bible Commentary,
00:23:54.23\00:23:58.33
and I want you to
notice how they interpret
00:23:58.37\00:24:01.94
the three horns
00:24:01.97\00:24:04.17
that are uprooted in Daniel 7,
00:24:04.21\00:24:09.41
you remember the little
horn uprooted three horns.
00:24:09.44\00:24:11.91
We believe that those
are the Heruli, the Vandals,
00:24:11.95\00:24:14.88
and the
Ostrogoths, the three kingdoms
00:24:14.92\00:24:16.89
that the papacy used
the civil power to uproot
00:24:16.92\00:24:19.52
so it could rise
to unopposed power.
00:24:19.55\00:24:22.89
But notice what preterism says
in the Jerome Bible Commentary.
00:24:22.92\00:24:27.80
This translation is
based on the interpretation
00:24:27.83\00:24:33.07
supposing that three
of Antiochus IV Epiphanes'
00:24:33.10\00:24:37.97
predecessors died violent deaths
00:24:38.01\00:24:40.98
so that he could
succeed to the throne.
00:24:41.01\00:24:43.55
So the three
horns are three opposers
00:24:43.58\00:24:46.18
of Antiochus Epiphanes.
00:24:46.21\00:24:48.22
So what does preterism do?
00:24:48.25\00:24:50.42
It's projecting the fulfillment
00:24:50.45\00:24:52.05
of all these
prophecies to where?
00:24:52.09\00:24:54.89
To the past.
00:24:54.92\00:24:56.26
And do you know
why they do this?
00:24:56.29\00:24:58.36
Because most of the individuals
who embrace preterism,
00:24:58.39\00:25:01.93
they use a
method of Bible study,
00:25:01.96\00:25:03.77
which is called the
historical critical method.
00:25:03.80\00:25:07.34
They don't believe that
God can predict the future.
00:25:07.37\00:25:11.17
They study the Bible
like any other document.
00:25:11.21\00:25:14.54
They don't
believe that the Bible
00:25:14.58\00:25:16.28
is able to predict long range
00:25:16.31\00:25:18.98
what is gonna
happen in the future.
00:25:19.01\00:25:20.48
So it's much easier to
simply say that these things
00:25:20.52\00:25:23.99
were fulfilled in the
past, and they're passed off
00:25:24.02\00:25:27.12
as if they were history.
00:25:27.16\00:25:29.36
But they're not really history.
00:25:29.39\00:25:31.09
Incidentally,
this is the reason why
00:25:31.13\00:25:33.26
liberal scholars say
that Daniel was not written
00:25:33.29\00:25:36.10
in the 6th century.
00:25:36.13\00:25:37.47
Daniel was written
in the 2nd century BC.
00:25:37.50\00:25:41.90
In that way, they can say, see,
00:25:41.94\00:25:44.11
Daniel was actually written
00:25:44.14\00:25:45.77
after all these
things have taken place,
00:25:45.81\00:25:48.24
and the writer wrote
it to make people think
00:25:48.28\00:25:51.75
that he was prophesying things
00:25:51.78\00:25:53.35
that were going to happen
from the time of Daniel 1.
00:25:53.38\00:25:56.38
That's the liberal method
of interpreting Bible prophecy.
00:25:56.42\00:26:00.06
That is the preterist
method of interpreting prophecy.
00:26:00.09\00:26:03.09
Now, how does the
Jerome Bible Commentary
00:26:03.12\00:26:05.99
explain the
beast's deadly wound?
00:26:06.03\00:26:09.70
Once again, I read from
the Jerome Bible Commentary,
00:26:09.73\00:26:12.47
Roman Catholic Commentary.
00:26:12.50\00:26:14.44
"This passage may be
00:26:14.47\00:26:18.11
a reference to
some definite event,
00:26:18.14\00:26:21.11
such as the murder of Caesar
00:26:21.14\00:26:24.05
and the healing of the
Emperor under Augustus,
00:26:24.08\00:26:28.08
the legend of Nero redivivus,
00:26:28.12\00:26:31.09
which means resuscitated,
00:26:31.12\00:26:33.99
or any of several
imperial misadventures."
00:26:34.02\00:26:39.03
So in other words, it
refers to things that happened
00:26:39.06\00:26:41.96
in ancient Rome.
00:26:42.00\00:26:43.33
It has nothing to do with
the Roman Catholic papacy.
00:26:43.37\00:26:47.17
So what does
preterism do? Very simple.
00:26:47.20\00:26:51.24
By saying that these prophecies
00:26:51.27\00:26:52.84
were fulfilled
in the distant past,
00:26:52.87\00:26:56.04
it deflects the
finger from the fulfillment
00:26:56.08\00:26:58.01
of the Roman Catholic papacy.
00:26:58.05\00:27:00.25
Because if the prophecies
concerning the little horn
00:27:00.28\00:27:03.39
and the beast
00:27:03.42\00:27:04.75
were fulfilled with
Antiochus Epiphanes,
00:27:04.79\00:27:07.26
and with the
early Roman emperors,
00:27:07.29\00:27:09.36
then it has nothing to do
00:27:09.39\00:27:11.09
with the Dark
Ages or the Middle Ages
00:27:11.13\00:27:13.90
because it happened back then.
00:27:13.93\00:27:15.80
It didn't happen
during the period
00:27:15.83\00:27:17.83
of the Christian church.
00:27:17.87\00:27:19.83
So let me ask you, did
preterism attempt to change
00:27:19.87\00:27:24.34
God's times?
00:27:24.37\00:27:26.11
Did it tried to
change the sequence of events
00:27:26.14\00:27:29.64
in God's calendar?
00:27:29.68\00:27:31.91
Yes, very similar to
what Nebuchadnezzar did,
00:27:31.95\00:27:34.68
in principle, at least.
00:27:34.72\00:27:37.45
But there's another school.
00:27:37.49\00:27:39.39
There was another scholar,
his name, Francisco Ribera.
00:27:39.42\00:27:45.09
He lived from 1537 to 1591.
00:27:45.13\00:27:49.60
He was a brilliant student.
00:27:49.63\00:27:52.67
He knew Latin, he
knew Greek, he knew Hebrew.
00:27:52.70\00:27:57.07
He actually taught at
the University of Salamanca
00:27:57.11\00:28:01.24
in Spain.
00:28:01.28\00:28:03.01
And, by the way,
I failed to mention
00:28:03.04\00:28:06.15
that Luis del
Alcázar was a Jesuit.
00:28:06.18\00:28:10.72
And Francisco
Ribera also was a Jesuit.
00:28:10.75\00:28:14.09
In fact, he joined
the Jesuit order in 1570,
00:28:14.12\00:28:18.56
when he was only 33 years old.
00:28:18.59\00:28:23.10
Now, what did Ribera teach?
00:28:23.13\00:28:27.34
Basically, Ribera teach
00:28:27.37\00:28:29.04
that the prophecy
of the little horn
00:28:29.07\00:28:32.37
had not been fulfilled yet.
00:28:32.41\00:28:34.84
It was going to be
fulfilled in the distant future.
00:28:34.88\00:28:39.21
Now, he also taught
some very interesting things.
00:28:39.25\00:28:44.19
He actually
accused the Protestants
00:28:44.22\00:28:46.45
of being inconsistent
in their interpretation
00:28:46.49\00:28:49.26
of the prophecies of
Daniel and Revelation
00:28:49.29\00:28:51.73
and we'll explain how.
00:28:51.76\00:28:53.76
The early church fathers,
00:28:53.80\00:28:58.33
now when I say
early church fathers,
00:28:58.37\00:28:59.70
I'm not talking
about the Bible writers.
00:28:59.73\00:29:02.90
I'm talking about individuals
like Tertullian and Origen
00:29:02.94\00:29:06.64
and all the
early church fathers.
00:29:06.68\00:29:10.25
They taught
certain futuristic elements
00:29:10.28\00:29:13.52
in their eschatology.
00:29:13.55\00:29:15.92
They taught, for
example, that the Antichrist
00:29:15.95\00:29:19.95
was going to be an individual
00:29:19.99\00:29:22.76
and they taught that individual
00:29:22.79\00:29:25.03
was going to rule
in as the Antichrist
00:29:25.06\00:29:30.23
for three and a
half literal years.
00:29:30.27\00:29:32.63
So the early church
fathers had this idea that
00:29:32.67\00:29:36.84
the Antichrist was
gonna be a nasty individual,
00:29:36.87\00:29:40.34
and he was going to rule
00:29:40.38\00:29:42.21
for three and a
half literal years.
00:29:42.24\00:29:44.91
We can't deny
that they believe that.
00:29:44.95\00:29:47.72
Now, it's interesting to notice
00:29:47.75\00:29:50.32
that even though
the early church fathers
00:29:50.35\00:29:52.32
believed this,
00:29:52.35\00:29:53.69
we can
understand the reason why,
00:29:53.72\00:29:55.06
there are actually two
reasons why they believe this.
00:29:55.09\00:29:58.99
Number one, the
early church fathers
00:29:59.03\00:30:01.73
did not expect the world history
00:30:01.76\00:30:03.93
to last another 2000 years.
00:30:03.97\00:30:07.00
You see, they
were living in the time
00:30:07.04\00:30:08.50
of the Roman Empire
00:30:08.54\00:30:10.24
and some of them
were starting to see
00:30:10.27\00:30:12.17
the Roman Empire disintegrate
00:30:12.21\00:30:14.94
and so as they
looked at the living
00:30:14.98\00:30:18.48
in the time of the Roman Empire,
00:30:18.51\00:30:20.22
and some of them
in the latter part,
00:30:20.25\00:30:22.02
they see the Roman
Empire starting to disintegrate,
00:30:22.05\00:30:25.39
they say "This must mean
00:30:25.42\00:30:26.76
that the Antichrist is imminent.
00:30:26.79\00:30:28.52
He's gonna come right now."
00:30:28.56\00:30:31.06
But, of course, they
did not really understand
00:30:31.09\00:30:34.76
that the Antichrist
00:30:34.80\00:30:36.77
was not going to
arise until later
00:30:36.80\00:30:39.53
and that he was
not going to rule
00:30:39.57\00:30:41.37
for three and a
half literal years.
00:30:41.40\00:30:43.10
He was going to
rule for 1260 years.
00:30:43.14\00:30:46.74
They didn't
understand that the time period
00:30:46.78\00:30:48.61
was not to be taken literally.
00:30:48.64\00:30:50.98
Secondly, the
Bible clearly tells us
00:30:51.01\00:30:56.28
that individuals
00:30:56.32\00:30:57.95
do not understand prophecy fully
00:30:57.99\00:31:00.36
until the times
when the prophecy
00:31:00.39\00:31:03.32
is fulfilled or is
about to be fulfilled.
00:31:03.36\00:31:06.76
Jesus actually
said in John 14:29,
00:31:06.80\00:31:11.23
"And now, I have told
you before it come to pass,
00:31:11.27\00:31:16.07
that when it is come to
pass, ye might believe."
00:31:16.10\00:31:21.64
So Jesus says, "I told
you what's gonna happen
00:31:21.68\00:31:24.05
before it happens,
00:31:24.08\00:31:25.61
so that when it does
happen, you might believe."
00:31:25.65\00:31:28.92
Now what does this have to do
00:31:28.95\00:31:30.69
with the view that
the early church had?
00:31:30.72\00:31:35.02
You see, the
early church fathers
00:31:35.06\00:31:36.62
lived in the period of
the fourth beast of Rome
00:31:36.66\00:31:40.60
when the empire
had not yet crumbled
00:31:40.63\00:31:43.16
into 10 kingdoms.
00:31:43.20\00:31:45.07
There was starting
to be some fissures,
00:31:45.10\00:31:47.80
but the empire was still united.
00:31:47.84\00:31:51.37
The little horn
had not yet risen,
00:31:51.41\00:31:54.11
and therefore the best
00:31:54.14\00:31:55.94
that the early
church fathers could do
00:31:55.98\00:31:58.15
was to guess about the
identity of the Antichrist.
00:31:58.18\00:32:03.32
So they concluded
that he was gonna reign
00:32:03.35\00:32:05.22
for three and a half years
00:32:05.25\00:32:06.59
and he was
gonna be an individual
00:32:06.62\00:32:07.96
because they did not live
00:32:07.99\00:32:09.32
in the times of the fulfillment.
00:32:09.36\00:32:11.29
As you reach the
times of the fulfillment,
00:32:11.33\00:32:13.80
Bible prophecy
becomes much clearer.
00:32:13.83\00:32:18.73
But the Protestant
Reformers didn't have to guess.
00:32:18.77\00:32:21.77
You see, the
Protestant Reformers
00:32:21.80\00:32:23.27
were not living in the
time of the Roman Empire.
00:32:23.30\00:32:26.61
The Protestant
Reformers were not even living
00:32:26.64\00:32:28.98
in the time when
the 10 kingdoms existed.
00:32:29.01\00:32:32.31
The Protestant Reformers
were living in the period
00:32:32.35\00:32:35.25
when the little
horn rose to power.
00:32:35.28\00:32:37.95
And so the
Protestant Reformers could see
00:32:37.99\00:32:40.56
what the early church
fathers could not see.
00:32:40.59\00:32:43.46
The early church
fathers, you know,
00:32:43.49\00:32:45.26
they lived in the
period of the Roman Empire,
00:32:45.29\00:32:47.50
and they read
about a little horn
00:32:47.53\00:32:49.60
rising among 10 horns,
00:32:49.63\00:32:51.27
the 10 horns
were not fully there,
00:32:51.30\00:32:53.37
the little horn had not risen,
00:32:53.40\00:32:54.94
so they assume
that the little horn
00:32:54.97\00:32:56.40
was an individual
00:32:56.44\00:32:57.77
that would rule for
three and a half literal years.
00:32:57.81\00:33:00.08
But once the empire is
divided into 10 kingdoms,
00:33:00.11\00:33:04.38
and the little
horn rises among them,
00:33:04.41\00:33:07.25
suddenly what was not clear
to the early church fathers
00:33:07.28\00:33:10.79
now becomes very clear
to the Protestant Reformers.
00:33:10.82\00:33:15.89
Thus the
reformers had the benefit
00:33:15.92\00:33:18.89
of historical hindsight,
00:33:18.93\00:33:22.60
they could see back
to what was happening,
00:33:22.63\00:33:26.13
what had happened
and what was happening
00:33:26.17\00:33:28.30
at their time.
00:33:28.34\00:33:29.97
Now, Francisco
Ribera wrote a commentary,
00:33:30.01\00:33:34.58
a 500 page commentary
on the Book of Revelation.
00:33:34.61\00:33:38.58
It was actually
published in 1590
00:33:38.61\00:33:41.55
posthumously
because he had already died.
00:33:41.58\00:33:44.99
Now, Le Roy Froom
describes Ribera's method
00:33:45.02\00:33:50.63
of interpreting prophecy.
00:33:50.66\00:33:52.16
I'm gonna read how
Froom describes it.
00:33:52.19\00:33:56.56
Ribera's
eschatology are ascribed
00:33:56.60\00:34:01.20
to a literal
three and a half years
00:34:01.24\00:34:03.97
reign of an infidel Antichrist,
00:34:04.01\00:34:06.98
who would bitterly
oppose and blaspheme the saints
00:34:07.01\00:34:11.15
just before the second advent.
00:34:11.18\00:34:14.12
Now, that's important.
00:34:14.15\00:34:15.95
I'm gonna read that again.
00:34:15.98\00:34:18.52
He said the
Antichrist was going to reign
00:34:18.55\00:34:22.59
a three and a
half literal years.
00:34:22.62\00:34:26.33
And he was gonna
be an infidel person
00:34:26.36\00:34:29.36
who would bitterly
oppose and blaspheme the saints
00:34:29.40\00:34:32.53
just before the second advent.
00:34:32.57\00:34:34.67
So the
Antichrist is an individual
00:34:34.70\00:34:37.11
who's gonna
persecute God's people
00:34:37.14\00:34:39.27
for three and a
half literal years,
00:34:39.31\00:34:41.71
just before the
Second Coming of Jesus.
00:34:41.74\00:34:43.95
Does the little
horn have anything to do
00:34:43.98\00:34:45.98
with the past history of
the Roman Catholic Church?
00:34:46.01\00:34:49.12
Absolutely not.
00:34:49.15\00:34:50.52
Because he's projecting
the fulfillment to the future.
00:34:50.55\00:34:54.82
Froom continues, "He
thought that antichrist
00:34:54.86\00:34:58.83
would be a single individual
00:34:58.86\00:35:01.43
who would rebuild
the temple in Jerusalem,
00:35:01.46\00:35:04.77
abolish the Christian religion,
00:35:04.80\00:35:07.44
deny Christ, be
received by the Jews,
00:35:07.47\00:35:12.07
pretend to be God,
and conquer the world,
00:35:12.11\00:35:16.41
and all this in a brief three
00:35:16.44\00:35:20.28
and one half literal years."
00:35:20.32\00:35:24.09
So what did Ribera do?
00:35:24.12\00:35:26.42
He said, "No, the
little horn prophecy."
00:35:26.45\00:35:29.02
No, no, no, that
wasn't fulfilled in the past
00:35:29.06\00:35:31.69
like my colleague
Alcázar had to say.
00:35:31.73\00:35:35.66
No, the little horn
refers to a future Antichrist,
00:35:35.70\00:35:41.00
that's going to, it's
gonna be an individual
00:35:41.04\00:35:43.37
who's going to rule for
three and a half literal years
00:35:43.41\00:35:45.51
and he's gonna
persecute the literal Jews,
00:35:45.54\00:35:47.31
is gonna rebuild the temple.
00:35:47.34\00:35:49.38
Does that sound familiar?
00:35:49.41\00:35:51.55
Have you heard that
on television on Sundays?
00:35:51.58\00:35:53.92
Have you heard conservative
Protestant ministers
00:35:53.95\00:35:56.62
speak about the
rebuilding of the temple
00:35:56.65\00:35:58.89
and the persecution of the Jews
00:35:58.92\00:36:00.86
for three and a
half literal years
00:36:00.89\00:36:02.32
by this nasty individual
who is the Antichrist?
00:36:02.36\00:36:06.16
Where did they get it from?
00:36:06.19\00:36:08.33
They got it from
Francisco Ribera.
00:36:08.36\00:36:11.03
Where did the mainline
Protestant denominations
00:36:11.07\00:36:14.00
get preterism from?
00:36:14.04\00:36:16.20
They got it from the
Roman Catholic papacy.
00:36:16.24\00:36:19.51
In other words, Protestants
00:36:19.54\00:36:20.88
have made an image of the beast.
00:36:20.91\00:36:23.51
Not only does prophecy tell us
00:36:23.55\00:36:26.41
that there's gonna be
an image of the beast,
00:36:26.45\00:36:27.78
which means that the papacy
00:36:27.82\00:36:29.32
is gonna join church and state.
00:36:29.35\00:36:31.82
The United States is
gonna join church and state
00:36:31.85\00:36:34.42
by instigation of the papacy,
00:36:34.46\00:36:36.09
that's gonna be
the image of the beast,
00:36:36.12\00:36:37.79
but also the Protestants
today are an image of the beast
00:36:37.83\00:36:42.46
in their
prophetic interpretation,
00:36:42.50\00:36:44.53
because Protestants
are either preterists,
00:36:44.57\00:36:47.77
the liberal ones,
or they are futurists,
00:36:47.80\00:36:50.71
the more conservative Christians
00:36:50.74\00:36:52.21
like Evangelicals, Pentecostals,
00:36:52.24\00:36:54.41
and Charismatics.
00:36:54.44\00:36:56.85
Now Ribera was a
brilliant researcher
00:36:56.88\00:36:59.21
and writer,
00:36:59.25\00:37:00.92
but he was not an
outstanding lecturer.
00:37:00.95\00:37:04.22
Furthermore, he
died at a very early age,
00:37:04.25\00:37:06.45
he died when he
was only 54 years old.
00:37:06.49\00:37:09.62
So Ribera's views
needed an articulate, shrewd,
00:37:09.66\00:37:14.56
and dynamic champion
00:37:14.60\00:37:17.33
to proclaim his new found
views concerning Bible prophecy.
00:37:17.37\00:37:23.41
And, of course, that shrewd
00:37:23.44\00:37:24.81
and articulate
champion was found.
00:37:24.84\00:37:27.48
His name was
Cardinal Robert Bellarmine.
00:37:27.51\00:37:32.25
And he actually was born
in 1542 and he died in 1621.
00:37:32.28\00:37:39.12
So the evangelist
for Ribera's views
00:37:39.15\00:37:42.89
was Robert Bellarmine.
00:37:42.92\00:37:44.69
So we need to take a look
at who Robert Bellarmine was.
00:37:44.73\00:37:49.50
He was actually
an Italian cardinal.
00:37:49.53\00:37:53.03
And one of the most shrewd
00:37:53.07\00:37:54.94
and intelligent
Jesuit apologists.
00:37:54.97\00:37:58.77
Isn't that interesting
that all these individuals
00:37:58.81\00:38:00.98
were Jesuits.
00:38:01.01\00:38:04.08
You know, Ribera was a Jesuit,
00:38:04.11\00:38:06.78
Alcázar was a Jesuit
00:38:06.82\00:38:09.22
and now Bellarmine
is a Jesuit as well.
00:38:09.25\00:38:13.66
This is a Jesuit agenda.
00:38:13.69\00:38:15.22
By the way, this is
no Jesuit conspiracy.
00:38:15.26\00:38:18.09
You know, there
are some Adventists
00:38:18.13\00:38:19.46
that see a Jesuit
behind every stone.
00:38:19.49\00:38:22.53
And they have a lot
of conspiracy theories
00:38:22.56\00:38:24.83
about the Jesuits.
00:38:24.87\00:38:26.53
And some of them might be true,
but this is not conspiracy.
00:38:26.57\00:38:31.11
This can be proved historically,
00:38:31.14\00:38:33.41
that preterism
and futurism comes
00:38:33.44\00:38:35.88
from the Roman
Catholic Counter Reformation
00:38:35.91\00:38:39.25
directly from the Jesuit order.
00:38:39.28\00:38:42.78
Now, let me read
what Froom had to say
00:38:42.82\00:38:45.69
about Bellarmine.
00:38:45.72\00:38:49.79
"He insisted
00:38:49.82\00:38:51.53
that the prophecies
concerning Antichrist
00:38:51.56\00:38:54.36
in Daniel, Paul, and John,
00:38:54.40\00:38:57.10
had no application
to the papal power.
00:38:57.13\00:39:00.87
This formed the third
part of his Polemic Lecture
00:39:00.90\00:39:04.57
Concerning the Disputed
Points of Christian Belief
00:39:04.61\00:39:07.41
against the
Heretics of this Time."
00:39:07.44\00:39:08.98
That's the name of the
document that Bellarmine wrote,
00:39:09.01\00:39:12.11
"published
between 1581 and 1593."
00:39:12.15\00:39:16.72
That's a work
that Bellarmine wrote
00:39:16.75\00:39:18.95
to defend the views
that Ribera had come up with.
00:39:18.99\00:39:22.46
Now, Froom continues writing,
00:39:22.49\00:39:25.06
"This was the
most detailed apology
00:39:25.09\00:39:28.33
of the Catholic
faith ever produced
00:39:28.36\00:39:31.30
and became,"
listen carefully now,
00:39:31.33\00:39:33.94
"and the work of Bellarmine
00:39:33.97\00:39:35.84
became the arsenal
for all future defenders
00:39:35.87\00:39:41.48
and expositors."
00:39:41.51\00:39:44.11
So who was the
source of futurism?
00:39:44.15\00:39:48.28
It was Ribera and
Bellarmine, of course,
00:39:48.32\00:39:52.49
he continued Ribera's
views, and he proliferated them
00:39:52.52\00:39:55.92
as it says here,
00:39:55.96\00:39:57.36
it became the arsenal
for all future defenders
00:39:57.39\00:40:00.73
and expositors
00:40:00.76\00:40:02.10
because
Bellarmine wrote prolifically
00:40:02.13\00:40:04.93
defending the views of Ribera.
00:40:04.97\00:40:08.87
He ends the quotation by saying,
00:40:08.90\00:40:11.17
"It called forth a
host of counter writings
00:40:11.21\00:40:15.81
from Protestant
leaders, who considered him
00:40:15.84\00:40:19.21
their greatest adversary."
00:40:19.25\00:40:21.05
So the Protestants
wrote document after document
00:40:21.08\00:40:24.29
against Robert
Bellarmine's views,
00:40:24.32\00:40:26.49
which shows that Bellarmine
was of great influence
00:40:26.52\00:40:30.73
in the Counter Reformation
00:40:30.76\00:40:32.96
in spreading
the views of Ribera.
00:40:32.99\00:40:37.57
Now basically,
Bellarmine repeated the views
00:40:37.60\00:40:42.50
of Ribera,
00:40:42.54\00:40:44.64
but he fine tuned
several other details
00:40:44.67\00:40:48.94
with an evangelistic
zeal worthy of admiration.
00:40:48.98\00:40:53.98
He used certain arguments
against the Protestants,
00:40:54.02\00:40:56.79
and I'm going to share
those arguments with you.
00:40:56.82\00:40:59.75
The first argument
was against Luther.
00:40:59.79\00:41:03.89
He says Luther claims
00:41:03.93\00:41:06.49
that the papacy
is the Antichrist.
00:41:06.53\00:41:09.30
And yet, Luther
doesn't even believe
00:41:09.33\00:41:13.23
that the Book of Revelation
belongs in the biblical canon.
00:41:13.27\00:41:17.97
So if one
authority can lose their talk
00:41:18.01\00:41:20.04
about the Antichrist
00:41:20.08\00:41:21.71
when he doesn't even believe
that the Book of Revelation
00:41:21.74\00:41:24.05
should be in the Bible.
00:41:24.08\00:41:25.65
And by the way, that's true.
00:41:25.68\00:41:27.75
Martin Luther did not
like the Book of Revelation.
00:41:27.78\00:41:31.15
He said, "All I find
in Revelation are beasts
00:41:31.19\00:41:33.59
and mysterious
numbers and symbols."
00:41:33.62\00:41:36.59
He says, "I can't find Christ
in the Book of Revelation."
00:41:36.62\00:41:40.56
He also did not
like the Book of James,
00:41:40.60\00:41:42.93
he call it the epistle of straw.
00:41:42.96\00:41:45.13
And so basically,
00:41:45.17\00:41:47.17
Bellarmine turns the
thing against Luther.
00:41:47.20\00:41:49.27
He says, "You know, I'm writing
about the Book of Revelation.
00:41:49.30\00:41:53.17
Luther doesn't even believe
that the Book of Revelation
00:41:53.21\00:41:55.84
belongs in the Bible."
00:41:55.88\00:41:58.31
He also showed
that the reformers
00:41:58.35\00:42:00.98
did not always
agree with one another.
00:42:01.02\00:42:04.29
For example, about the period
in which the Antichrist rose,
00:42:04.32\00:42:09.72
some Protestant Reformers
said that the Antichrist
00:42:09.76\00:42:13.19
or the little horn
rose in the year 400 AD,
00:42:13.23\00:42:17.03
that's with the fall of Rome.
00:42:17.07\00:42:19.17
Others thought that
it was in the year 600 AD
00:42:19.20\00:42:22.30
when Pope Gregory
rose to the papal throne.
00:42:22.34\00:42:25.81
Other reformers believed
that the Antichrist arose
00:42:25.84\00:42:29.71
in the year 200, 773,
00:42:29.74\00:42:32.65
the year 1000 or the year 1200.
00:42:32.68\00:42:36.18
So basically, the
Protestant Reformers,
00:42:36.22\00:42:38.29
they did not
have a standard date
00:42:38.32\00:42:40.39
for the beginning
of the Antichrist,
00:42:40.42\00:42:42.52
the rule of the Antichrist.
00:42:42.56\00:42:44.36
And so Bellarmine said,
00:42:44.39\00:42:45.79
"The
Protestants can't even agree
00:42:45.83\00:42:47.53
as to when the Antichrist began.
00:42:47.56\00:42:50.07
So how can we
trust what they teach?"
00:42:50.10\00:42:53.64
Once again, we
need to understand
00:42:53.67\00:42:55.10
something very important.
00:42:55.14\00:42:57.31
And that is that
the Protestant Reformers
00:42:57.34\00:43:00.18
did not have all
of the information
00:43:00.21\00:43:03.04
that we have.
00:43:03.08\00:43:04.91
The Protestant Reformers
did not know about 1798.
00:43:04.95\00:43:09.75
You see, we have two ways
of studying the 1260 years.
00:43:09.78\00:43:14.52
We can begin in the year
538 and then move forward,
00:43:14.56\00:43:20.10
or we can go to 1798
and we can move backwards.
00:43:20.13\00:43:25.07
You see the
Protestant Reformers,
00:43:25.10\00:43:26.43
they had to determine
what the beginning was,
00:43:26.47\00:43:29.10
but they didn't
know what the end was,
00:43:29.14\00:43:31.11
because the end
was gonna come in 1798.
00:43:31.14\00:43:34.54
We live after the
papacy was wounded in 1798.
00:43:34.58\00:43:40.32
So we have a firm period
00:43:40.35\00:43:42.85
where the Roman
Catholic papacy ruled,
00:43:42.88\00:43:45.25
538 to 1798.
00:43:45.29\00:43:48.32
So he shouldn't
have been too hard
00:43:48.36\00:43:49.69
on the Protestant Reformers
00:43:49.72\00:43:51.39
because the reformers
did not know the ending date.
00:43:51.43\00:43:53.90
I'm sure that if they had live
00:43:53.93\00:43:56.33
at the period
of the ending date,
00:43:56.36\00:43:58.23
they would have said 538 to 1798
00:43:58.27\00:44:01.77
because in 1798,
00:44:01.80\00:44:03.37
the papacy
received its deadly wound,
00:44:03.41\00:44:05.74
the pope was taken prisoner.
00:44:05.77\00:44:07.44
France as a nation
turned against the papacy.
00:44:07.48\00:44:10.41
And shortly thereafter,
all of the nations in Europe
00:44:10.45\00:44:13.72
followed the example of a papacy
00:44:13.75\00:44:15.78
in forsaking the papacy.
00:44:15.82\00:44:18.29
And so, Bellarmine, you
know, the Protestant Reformers
00:44:18.32\00:44:21.79
obviously did not have
00:44:21.82\00:44:23.16
a very good
response at that point.
00:44:23.19\00:44:25.23
But they would
have had a good response
00:44:25.26\00:44:27.10
if they had lived today.
00:44:27.13\00:44:30.10
He also said to the Protestants,
00:44:30.13\00:44:34.64
"Hey, you know,
00:44:34.67\00:44:36.30
you interpret
symbols differently.
00:44:36.34\00:44:39.37
Everybody has a different
interpretation of symbols.
00:44:39.41\00:44:42.64
So how can we trust your
interpretation of symbols,
00:44:42.68\00:44:46.61
when each reformer
has a different way
00:44:46.65\00:44:48.88
of interpreting
certain symbols?"
00:44:48.92\00:44:50.89
So basically, what
Bellarmine was doing
00:44:50.92\00:44:53.62
was he was using arguments
to try and cloud the issue
00:44:53.66\00:44:58.43
so that people would distrust
00:44:58.46\00:45:00.20
what the Protestant
Reformers were saying.
00:45:00.23\00:45:03.50
Now, Bellarmine also used
a very interesting argument
00:45:03.53\00:45:07.54
that Protestants
would later pick up,
00:45:07.57\00:45:10.14
conservative Protestants.
00:45:10.17\00:45:11.84
That would be Pentecostals,
00:45:11.87\00:45:13.64
Charismatics, Evangelicals, etc.
00:45:13.68\00:45:16.95
Basically, it's the
idea that the Roman Empire
00:45:16.98\00:45:22.15
was never
divided into 10 kingdoms.
00:45:22.18\00:45:26.52
Bellarmine taught that,
00:45:26.55\00:45:28.02
Ribera didn't teach
that specific point,
00:45:28.06\00:45:30.66
but Bellarmine said,
00:45:30.69\00:45:32.23
"When you look at the
history of the Roman Empire,
00:45:32.26\00:45:35.06
it was never
divided into 10 kingdoms
00:45:35.10\00:45:37.83
like the prophecy
of Daniel 7 says."
00:45:37.87\00:45:40.97
Now in our study
tomorrow, our next study,
00:45:41.00\00:45:44.67
I am going to show you
00:45:44.71\00:45:46.57
from the writings of a futurist,
00:45:46.61\00:45:48.88
he passed away a few years ago.
00:45:48.91\00:45:50.71
His name is Dave Hunt.
00:45:50.75\00:45:53.15
He wrote a Book called
"The Woman Rides the Beast,"
00:45:53.18\00:45:56.42
and also another one
that is called "Global Peace."
00:45:56.45\00:46:00.06
And in his
exposition of Daniel Chapter 7,
00:46:00.09\00:46:04.06
he says that there's a gap
between the fourth kingdom,
00:46:04.09\00:46:08.63
the Roman Empire, and
the 10 nation federation
00:46:08.66\00:46:12.83
that will rise in the future,
00:46:12.87\00:46:15.87
that the 10
horns did not come out
00:46:15.90\00:46:17.51
of the head of the fourth beast,
00:46:17.54\00:46:19.27
immediately
when the empire fell,
00:46:19.31\00:46:21.74
but there was a
gap of over 2000 years
00:46:21.78\00:46:24.78
between the fourth kingdom
and the rise of the 10 horns.
00:46:24.81\00:46:28.98
Where did Dave
Hunt get that from?
00:46:29.02\00:46:32.32
From the Roman Catholic
papacy's Counter Reformation.
00:46:32.35\00:46:35.79
The argument was
used first by Bellarmine
00:46:35.82\00:46:39.49
where he says
that the Roman Empire
00:46:39.53\00:46:41.53
was never divided,
00:46:41.56\00:46:42.90
according to the specification
of Daniel Chapter 7.
00:46:42.93\00:46:46.94
Now, Bellarmine believed
00:46:46.97\00:46:50.04
that the Antichrist
would be a nasty individual.
00:46:50.07\00:46:55.04
He believe that the time of
rulership of this Antichrist
00:46:55.08\00:47:01.52
was a literal
three and a half years.
00:47:01.55\00:47:04.65
And he believed
that the Jerusalem temple
00:47:04.69\00:47:08.26
or the temple where
the Antichrist would sit
00:47:08.29\00:47:10.96
was the literal
Jerusalem temple.
00:47:10.99\00:47:13.90
Let me just read
you three statements
00:47:13.93\00:47:15.83
from Bellarmine himself.
00:47:15.86\00:47:17.97
First of all, about
the facts according to him,
00:47:18.00\00:47:22.14
that the Antichrist
will be an individual
00:47:22.17\00:47:25.94
that will rise in the future.
00:47:25.97\00:47:27.41
It's not a system,
it's an individual.
00:47:27.44\00:47:29.94
He wrote in his famous document
00:47:29.98\00:47:33.72
which took
years to put together.
00:47:33.75\00:47:36.52
I quote, "For all
Catholics think, thus,
00:47:36.55\00:47:41.82
that the Antichrist
will be one certain man
00:47:41.86\00:47:47.63
but all heretics
teach," now he's gonna contrast,
00:47:47.66\00:47:51.33
"all heretics
teach that Antichrist
00:47:51.37\00:47:55.00
is expressly declared
to be not a single person
00:47:55.04\00:47:59.91
but an individual
throne or absolute kingdom,
00:47:59.94\00:48:03.95
an apostate seat of those
who ruled over the church."
00:48:03.98\00:48:09.25
Are you catching
what he's saying?
00:48:09.28\00:48:11.25
In other words,
Protestants believed
00:48:11.29\00:48:12.62
that the Antichrist is a system
00:48:12.65\00:48:16.86
where as he says, as
Catholics, we believe
00:48:16.89\00:48:19.36
that the
Antichrist is an individual
00:48:19.39\00:48:21.83
to rise in the future,
00:48:21.86\00:48:23.20
whereas Protestants think
00:48:23.23\00:48:24.57
that it's our
system that exists now.
00:48:24.60\00:48:27.80
What did Bellarmine have to say
00:48:27.84\00:48:29.24
about the three and a half years
00:48:29.27\00:48:31.34
that the little horn would rule?
00:48:31.37\00:48:33.58
I read once
again from Bellarmine.
00:48:33.61\00:48:36.11
"Antichrist will not reign
00:48:36.14\00:48:39.85
except for three
years and a half.
00:48:39.88\00:48:44.05
But the pope has
now reigned spiritually
00:48:44.09\00:48:47.62
in the church
more than 1500 years,
00:48:47.66\00:48:51.66
nor can anyone be pointed out
00:48:51.69\00:48:54.20
who has been
accepted for antichrist,
00:48:54.23\00:48:56.97
who has ruled exactly
three in one half years,
00:48:57.00\00:49:00.37
therefore, the
pope is not Antichrist.
00:49:00.40\00:49:03.81
Then Antichrist
has not yet come."
00:49:03.84\00:49:08.14
Are you
understanding his argument?
00:49:08.18\00:49:10.48
What he's saying is that
Antichrist was going to reign
00:49:10.51\00:49:14.32
three and a half years.
00:49:14.35\00:49:16.22
And there's no pope,
that you could show ruled
00:49:16.25\00:49:20.36
for three and a
half literal years,
00:49:20.39\00:49:23.56
because if it's the papacy,
00:49:23.59\00:49:25.46
he says the papacy has ruled
00:49:25.49\00:49:26.93
for over 1500 years in his time,
00:49:26.96\00:49:29.53
not three and a
half literal years.
00:49:29.56\00:49:31.27
So it can't refer to the papacy.
00:49:31.30\00:49:34.34
And then what did he have to say
00:49:34.37\00:49:36.20
about the temple,
00:49:36.24\00:49:38.14
Antichrist
sitting in the temple?
00:49:38.17\00:49:40.24
Once again, I read
from Bellarmine's writings,
00:49:40.28\00:49:43.78
"The pope is not antichrist
00:49:43.81\00:49:48.42
since indeed his
throne is not in Jerusalem,
00:49:48.45\00:49:53.29
nor in the Temple of Solomon,
00:49:53.32\00:49:55.89
surely it is credible
that from the year 600,
00:49:55.92\00:49:59.89
no Roman pontiff has
ever been in Jerusalem."
00:49:59.93\00:50:05.47
Are you
understanding his argument?
00:50:05.50\00:50:08.20
He is literalizing
what the Apostle Paul says
00:50:08.24\00:50:11.31
in 2 Thessalonians 2
00:50:11.34\00:50:13.04
where it says the
Antichrist will sit
00:50:13.07\00:50:15.91
in the temple of God
showing himself to be God.
00:50:15.94\00:50:18.61
And he says, "Well,
00:50:18.65\00:50:19.98
the temple is
the Jewish temple."
00:50:20.02\00:50:22.68
But he says, "No
pope is now sitting
00:50:22.72\00:50:24.65
in the Jewish temple."
00:50:24.69\00:50:26.22
So the pope
cannot be the fulfillment
00:50:26.25\00:50:28.66
of the Antichrist prophecy.
00:50:28.69\00:50:32.36
What he doesn't say is
that when the Apostle Paul
00:50:32.39\00:50:36.53
uses the word temple
Naos, in his writings,
00:50:36.56\00:50:41.54
he always applies it
to a spiritual temple
00:50:41.57\00:50:45.51
that is as a symbol
of the Christian church.
00:50:45.54\00:50:48.98
An example of that is
found in Ephesians Chapter 2,
00:50:49.01\00:50:52.48
where it says that the church
00:50:52.51\00:50:55.72
is built upon the foundation
00:50:55.75\00:50:59.89
of the apostles
and the prophets.
00:50:59.92\00:51:02.59
Those are the foundations.
00:51:02.62\00:51:04.66
Jesus Christ is
the chief cornerstone.
00:51:04.69\00:51:08.80
And the believers are the stones
00:51:08.83\00:51:11.00
that are built up
on the cornerstone
00:51:11.03\00:51:14.77
and the foundation stones.
00:51:14.80\00:51:17.41
And then the Apostle Paul says
00:51:17.44\00:51:20.34
that it grows to be
a temple in the Lord.
00:51:20.38\00:51:24.48
And it is filled
with the Holy Spirit,
00:51:24.51\00:51:27.85
which is the Shekinah.
00:51:27.88\00:51:31.15
So in other
words, the Apostle Paul,
00:51:31.19\00:51:32.85
whenever he
uses the word temple,
00:51:32.89\00:51:34.72
he uses it in a
figurative sense.
00:51:34.76\00:51:37.86
By the way,
00:51:37.89\00:51:40.46
even if a Jewish
temple was rebuilt,
00:51:40.50\00:51:43.40
it would not be
the temple of God.
00:51:43.43\00:51:46.57
Because Jesus, you remember,
He went into the temple
00:51:46.60\00:51:50.24
at the end of
the triumphal entry
00:51:50.27\00:51:52.54
and it says there
in Matthew Chapter 21
00:51:52.57\00:51:57.45
that He entered
the temple of God.
00:51:57.48\00:52:01.55
And the money
changers went there
00:52:01.58\00:52:03.45
and Jesus cast out
the money changers.
00:52:03.49\00:52:06.32
And Jesus says, "You
have defiled My house."
00:52:06.35\00:52:10.73
So when He goes into the temple,
00:52:10.76\00:52:12.79
it's called the temple of God.
00:52:12.83\00:52:14.50
And He says, "This is My house."
00:52:14.53\00:52:17.37
But then in the next chapters,
00:52:17.40\00:52:19.23
the rest of
Chapter 21, 22, and 23,
00:52:19.27\00:52:22.67
Jesus carries on a dialogue
with the Jewish leaders.
00:52:22.70\00:52:26.51
He tells several parables
00:52:26.54\00:52:28.51
and one Jewish
sect after another
00:52:28.54\00:52:30.85
rejects the teachings of
Jesus Christ in the temple,
00:52:30.88\00:52:34.05
because He's
teaching in the temple
00:52:34.08\00:52:35.88
in Matthew 21, 22, and 23.
00:52:35.92\00:52:38.22
And He ends in Chapter 23
with the woes upon the scribes
00:52:38.25\00:52:41.42
and of Pharisees.
00:52:41.46\00:52:43.12
And then Jesus
leaves the temple.
00:52:43.16\00:52:45.23
We're going to study
this a little bit more
00:52:45.26\00:52:46.80
a little bit later on
00:52:46.83\00:52:48.16
when we talk
about who is Israel,
00:52:48.20\00:52:49.96
because we're gonna
deal with all of the issues
00:52:50.00\00:52:52.07
that are presented by futurists.
00:52:52.10\00:52:54.24
And so Jesus when He finishes
00:52:54.27\00:52:56.60
His encounters
with the Jewish leaders,
00:52:56.64\00:52:58.67
and they totally reject Him,
00:52:58.71\00:53:01.24
we're told in Matthew
23:38, for the last time,
00:53:01.28\00:53:06.01
Jesus leaves the
temple, and He says,
00:53:06.05\00:53:09.18
"Your house is
left unto you desolate."
00:53:09.22\00:53:13.96
It was no longer
the Lord's house.
00:53:13.99\00:53:16.22
And then immediately afterwards,
00:53:16.26\00:53:18.99
in Matthew 24:1-3,
00:53:19.03\00:53:21.23
Jesus speaks about the
destruction of Jerusalem.
00:53:21.26\00:53:25.87
Are you with me?
00:53:25.90\00:53:27.87
So the Jewish
temple, even if it's rebuild,
00:53:27.90\00:53:29.90
it's not the temple of God.
00:53:29.94\00:53:33.51
The temple of God is the church,
00:53:33.54\00:53:36.11
which means that the Antichrist
was going to rise where?
00:53:36.14\00:53:39.65
He was going to rise and sit
00:53:39.68\00:53:42.78
in the spiritual
temple, the church.
00:53:42.82\00:53:45.22
In other words, we're supposed
to look for the Antichrist
00:53:45.25\00:53:48.12
sitting somewhere in
the Christian church,
00:53:48.16\00:53:51.23
more specifically in Rome,
00:53:51.26\00:53:54.00
because the Bible
tells us that the little horn
00:53:54.03\00:53:56.87
rises in the
midst of the 10 horns
00:53:56.90\00:54:00.14
from the head of
the dragon beast,
00:54:00.17\00:54:02.07
which represents Rome.
00:54:02.10\00:54:05.57
Now for 200 years
00:54:05.61\00:54:08.28
after the
Protestant Reformation,
00:54:08.31\00:54:10.58
the Protestants withstood
00:54:10.61\00:54:13.45
the Roman Catholic
papacy's onslaught.
00:54:13.48\00:54:16.58
They remained
faithful to their principles.
00:54:16.62\00:54:21.06
But then, in the early 1800s
00:54:21.09\00:54:26.63
in Britain,
00:54:26.66\00:54:29.16
Protestants began
to forsake historicism
00:54:29.20\00:54:33.74
as the governing principle
00:54:33.77\00:54:35.47
for the interpretation
of Bible prophecy.
00:54:35.50\00:54:39.57
It's a sad story.
00:54:39.61\00:54:41.88
We will take quite
an extensive period
00:54:41.91\00:54:43.91
in our next presentation
00:54:43.95\00:54:45.41
to study how
preterism and primarily futurism
00:54:45.45\00:54:51.65
entered Protestantism
00:54:51.69\00:54:53.96
through the door of
the Anglican Church,
00:54:53.99\00:54:56.36
through the door of the Church
of England in the early 1830's.
00:54:56.39\00:55:01.10
And then we're gonna
see that it was transplanted
00:55:01.13\00:55:04.43
to the United
States by John Nelson Darby
00:55:04.47\00:55:08.30
and C.I. Scofield,
the famous preparer
00:55:08.34\00:55:12.11
of the Scofield Reference Bible.
00:55:12.14\00:55:14.64
And since then,
Protestantism has eaten up,
00:55:14.68\00:55:20.52
has imbibed the
Roman Catholic system
00:55:20.55\00:55:24.72
of interpreting Bible prophecy.
00:55:24.75\00:55:27.19
As I mentioned last night,
00:55:27.22\00:55:28.99
they have swallowed
00:55:29.02\00:55:30.49
the Roman Catholic
Counter Reformation views,
00:55:30.53\00:55:33.46
hook, line, sinker,
00:55:33.50\00:55:35.96
fisherman, boat,
and everything else.
00:55:36.00\00:55:40.34
They bought it all.
00:55:40.37\00:55:42.44
These days, the
mainline Protestant churches
00:55:42.47\00:55:46.37
teach preterism.
00:55:46.41\00:55:49.78
The little horn is Antiochus.
00:55:49.81\00:55:53.62
The beast is Nero.
00:55:53.65\00:55:57.79
When it comes
00:55:57.82\00:55:59.15
to the conservative Protestants,
00:55:59.19\00:56:00.86
which are the
Evangelicals, the Pentecostals,
00:56:00.89\00:56:04.23
and the Charismatics.
00:56:04.26\00:56:06.09
They say, "No, the Antichrist
is a future Antichrist."
00:56:06.13\00:56:11.97
They will arise and
sit in the Jewish temple,
00:56:12.00\00:56:14.60
he'll build a great
big statue of himself,
00:56:14.64\00:56:17.47
which is the image of the beast.
00:56:17.51\00:56:19.01
He will command all the Jews
00:56:19.04\00:56:20.48
to worship the
image that he raised up,
00:56:20.51\00:56:22.71
and he will place
this tattoo on the forehead
00:56:22.74\00:56:25.78
or on the right hand,
00:56:25.81\00:56:27.18
and everybody will have
to fall down and worship,
00:56:27.22\00:56:29.52
literalizing everything,
00:56:29.55\00:56:31.65
and projecting it to the future.
00:56:31.69\00:56:35.59
In other words,
Protestantism has apostatized
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from the correct way of
interpreting Bible prophecy.
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No wonder
Protestantism is so weak today.
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No wonder,
folks, that even within
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the Seventh-day
Adventist Church,
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we become very weak
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in the teaching
of Bible prophecy.
00:56:55.81\00:56:58.75
We don't say much
about Bible prophecy anymore.
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We hardly ever refer to
the writings of Ellen White
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in the
interpretation of prophecy,
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because we have
also been influenced
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by these views of
the Roman Catholic
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Counter Reformation.
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And so, in our next
study, we will talk about
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the Great
Apostasy of Protestantism
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from the correct view of
interpreting Bible prophecy.
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I hope you're
planning on being here
00:57:29.34\00:57:31.18
for the next presentation,
because it's a sad story.
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But it helps us explain
the reason why Protestantism
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no longer has any power
00:57:39.35\00:57:41.86
to bring about a
change in people's lives,
00:57:41.89\00:57:44.63
and why there
is so lack of power
00:57:44.66\00:57:47.80
also in our very own
Seventh-day Adventist Church.
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So I hope that we're
all planning on being here
00:57:52.43\00:57:54.94
for our next presentation,
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where we will deal with
this very important topic.
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