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Welcome back.
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We have a very interesting study
that we're going to do now,
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and that is, Who
Changed God's Times.
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But before we do, we
want to have a word of prayer,
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so I invite you to
bow your heads with me.
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Father in heaven we thank
you for your wonderful word
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assure guide in a
world that is so confused.
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We ask that that
word will speak to us
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as we study about the
change in God's times.
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We thank you Father
for hearing our prayer,
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we ask it in the
precious name of Jesus, Amen.
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Well let's do a
little bit of review
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of what we studied in
our first subject together.
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We have been studying
the great prophetic chain.
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The chain begins with
which Kingdom? Babylon.
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Then it
continues with Medo-Persia,
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then Greece,
then the Roman Empire.
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Then what happens
to the Roman Empire?
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It divides into ten kingdoms,
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and then, who
rises among the ten?
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The little horn, and it uproots
how many kingdoms? It uproots
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three, and rules then
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1260 what? Years.
And the 1260 years
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end what date? 1798, when
the papacy received the deadly
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wound. Is that
the end of the papacy?
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No,no it's not
the end of the papacy
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because revelation
tells us that its deadly wound
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is going to be what? Is going
to be healed, the whole world
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will wonder after
the beast. What or
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who is it that is going
to help this first beast
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recover its power? What nation?
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The beast that
rises from the earth
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the United States of
America believe it or not.
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It almost seems impossible. Now
we notice that the little horn
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represents the
Roman Catholic papacy
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and I want to reiterate
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that we're not
talking about the individuals
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in the Roman Catholic Church.
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There are many
sincere loving Christians
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in the Roman Catholic Church.
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They serve God the best they can
according to their knowledge.
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Many of them are
more faithful with
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with what they
believe than we are
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with what we believe
to be honest with you.
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But that doesn't mean that
the papacy is God's system.
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Even though there are sincere
individuals in the system,
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it doesn't mean that
the system is God's system.
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The system is apostate.
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The papacy which is the
union of church and state,
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mainly the high hierarchy
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of the church is
where the problem is.
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We gave several characteristics
that identify the Antichrist.
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The little horn.
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First of all it has to
rise after the year 476.
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Secondly it has to
rise in Western Europe.
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In the third place,
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it has to uproot
three of the 10 kingdoms
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into which the Roman
Empire was divided. Four, it
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would speak blasphemy is against
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God claiming to have
the power to forgive sins
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and have the representative
of Christ on earth.
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Then it would persecute
the saints of the most time
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which is what the papacy
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did through mechanisms
such as the Inquisition.
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Then it says that he would
think that he could change times
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and the law.
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And we notice that
the papacy does claim
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to have changed God's law.
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It removes the second
commandment from the catechism,
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and it clearly states
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that it has changed the day of
worship from Sabbath to Sunday.
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And then we notice that
the papacy was going to rule
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1260 years time times
in the dividing of time.
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Now there is one point
that we did not look at
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in our first presentation,
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and that is what
does it mean in Daniel 7
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when it says that the
little horn would think
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to change the times. We know
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what it means that he
would try to change the law,
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that the papacy would
try to change the law.
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But what does the
change of the times mean.
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Well you know some scholars in
the Adventist church have said
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that really what it means
is that the papacy would think
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to change the times in
the law. Times in the law.
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But that's not what
the Hebrew text says.
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The Hebrew text says
that he would think to change
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times and law. There
are two separate things.
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So what does it mean
that the papacy would think
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that it would change the times.
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We already know what it
means that it would think
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to change the law,
but what does it mean
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that the papacy would
think to change the times.
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Well let's go to
Daniel chapter 2 and verse 21.
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I believe that this is the
central verse of the whole book.
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It has three phrases
that I want us to notice
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here, three sentences.
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These are three
things that God does.
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It says there in Daniel 2:21
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<< And He (that is
God) changes the times
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and the seasons; ..who changes
the times and the seasons?
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God changes the
times and the seasons,
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that's the first
thing that God does.
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Secondly, he what?.. He removes
kings and raises up kings;
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..and in the third
place, What does he do?..
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He gives wisdom to the wise
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and now knowledge to
those who have understanding. >>
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Now it's
interesting these three phrases
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are actually illustrated
in Daniel chapter two
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and Daniel chapter three.
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You remember that
the king had a dream,
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and he couldn't
remember the dream.
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So who gave Daniel
wisdom in order to tell the king
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what the dream was? God.
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So God gives wisdom to
Daniel to interpret the dream.
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And then if you
read Daniel 2:37-38
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it says there that
Nebuchadnezzar was ruling
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because God
placed him on the throne.
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See that's another phrase
that we find in Daniel 2:21.
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He puts kings in
place and he what?
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And he removes kings.
That's in Daniel 2: 37 and 38.
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And then the third point
is that God changes the times
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and the seasons.
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I believe that
primarily what he's saying is
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that he changes the times
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and the seasons that
human beings try to manipulate
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into changing what God has said
that is going to take place.
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And that is illustrated,
we're going to find,
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in Daniel chapter
3. In Daniel chapter 3,
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we're going to
find that God has told
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Nebuchadnezzar how
history is going to flow.
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But Nebuchadnezzar attempts
to change the flow of history
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that God has revealed,
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and God will intervene to
interrupt the king's plans
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to change God's
prophetic calendar.
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In other words, what I'm saying
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is that what the
change of the times
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means is that the papacy
was going to attempt to change
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the order of prophetic events
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that God has
established in his calendar.
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The papacy was going to try
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and implement a
counterfeit prophetic scenario.
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And we're going to
notice that that is illustrated
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in Daniel chapter 2
and Daniel chapter 3.
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Now, you'll notice here
that it says in Daniel 2:21
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that God changes the
times and the seasons.
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Now the question is,
is the change of the times
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one thing and the
change of the seasons
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another thing, or are we to take
this as an idiomatic expression
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that means that God is in
control of prophetic events?
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I believe that we're
going to see in our study
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that when it says
that God changes the times
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and the seasons,
it is an expression
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that means that God is in
control of prophetic events.
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The change in the
times is not one thing
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and the change in the
seasons is that another thing.
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They really are to
be coupled together
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and they basically mean that
God has control of human events.
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Now it's interesting to notice
that in the book of Daniel
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there are two
words that refer to time.
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One is the word  
Iddan, and tomorrow
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if you come I'm gonna
give you several pages
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that have all of these words
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as they appear in
the book of Daniel.
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The word   Iddan   and the
word Zeman.   Now the word Iddan
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is translated
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God changes the
times, and the word Zeman is
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God changes the seasons. Iddan,
times, and Zeman, seasons.
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Now, let's turn in our
bibles to Daniel chapter two
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and verses eight and nine.
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Daniel Chapter 2
and verses 8 and 9.
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I'm going to show you that
these words are synonymous.
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In other words, this expression
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God changes the
times in the seasons,
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doesn't mean that
he changes the times
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and changing the
seasons is another thing.
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It's an idiomatic expression
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that means that God is in
control of prophetic events.
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Everything
transpires as God has delineated
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in his prophetic calendar.
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And so it says there in
Daniel chapter 2 verse 8.
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<< The king answered and
said, I know of certainty
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..he's speaking to
the wise men of Babylon..
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that ye would gain the time,
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..In other words,
you're trying to buy time.
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You want a period of time
until my wrath passes away..
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because ye see the thing is
gone from me.>> Now, the word
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that is used there is the
word Iddan. In other words,
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you're stalling for Iddan,
you are stalling for time.
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Now, when you go to chapter two
and verse sixteen, chapter two
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and verse
sixteen, the same concept
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is there of buying time
but the word that is used
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is not Iddan,
the word that is used
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is Zeman which shows
that they're synonymous.
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Basically they
mean the same thing.
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Notice Daniel
chapter 2 and verse 16.
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<< Then Daniel went
in, and desired of the King
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that he would give him time...>>
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So you see that
they're synonymous?
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Iddan in Daniel
chapter 2 verse 8,
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and Zeman in
Daniel chapter 2 verse 16.
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So when it says that
God changes the times
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and the seasons, it's
basically saying the same thing.
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It's saying that God is
in control of human events.
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So, the word
Iddan and the word Zeman
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can refer to a period of
time buying a period of time,
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but it can also
refer to a point of time.
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Both words. Let us notice
Daniel chapter 3 and verse 5.
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Daniel chapter 3 and
verse 5 Here the word
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that is used, is Iddan.
Daniel chapter 3 and verse 5.
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It says, <<That at what time
..That's the word   Iddan..   ye
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hear the sound of the coronet,
flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery,
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dulcimer, and
all kinds of music,
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ye fall down and
worship the golden image
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that Nebuchadnezzar
the king has set up.>>
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So notice that says,
when the moment arise
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when the time arrives
that you hear the music,
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you're supposed to
bow before the image.
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That's a point
of time, isn't it?
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Now notice Daniel chapter 3
and verse 7, the word Zeman.
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It's the other word for time,
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and it's clearly
shows that it's synonymous
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because in Daniel
Chapter 3 and verse 7
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it says, << Therefore at that
time, when all the people heard
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the sound of the cornet,
flute, harp, sackbut, spaltery,
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and all kinds of music,
all the people, the nations,
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and the languages fell down in
worshipped the golden image...>>
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Is that the same concept
that we found in verse 5?
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The point of time,
exactly. But in Daniel 3 verse 5
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the word that is used Iddan.
In Daniel chapter 3 and verse 7,
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it's the word Zeman.
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So what my point is this, that
when Daniel Chapter 2 verse 21
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says that God changes
the times and the seasons
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and really these
are synonymous terms,
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it means that God is in
control of prophetic events.
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God has established
a prophetic calendar
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of how events are
going to take place.
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Are you with me or not?
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Now, let's noticed several other
verses that use these words
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Iddan and Zeman. Go with me to
Daniel chapter 4 and verse 32.
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>> Daniel
chapter 4 and verse 32.
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This is speaking about the time
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when Nebuchadnezzar kind
of lost it for seven years
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and God cause him
to become a vegetarian.
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And you know it
really helped him
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because at the end
he came to his senses.
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He was thinking straight.
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I'm just kidding, I'm not
making a point out of that.
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But Daniel
chapter 4 verse 32 says,
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speaking about Nebuchadnezzar,
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<< They shall drive you
from men, and your dwelling
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shall be with the
beasts of the field:
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they shall make you
eat grass like oxen,
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and seven .. Iddan .. seven
times shall pass over you..
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Is God announcing
a prophetic period?
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Is he announcing,
this is going to happen,
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this is
according to my calendar?
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Absolutely.
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So it says.. and seven times
shall pass over you, until you
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know that the most High
rules in the kingdom of men
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and gives it to
whomever he chooses.>>
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But then it's very
interesting in verse 36,
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if you go with me
to verse thirty-six,
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the word that is used Zeman
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and it's the same concept.
So there is Synonymous. Notice
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once again Daniel chapter four
and verse thirty six. It says
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there, and this
whole chapter deals
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with Nebuchadnezzar's insanity,
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And at the same time... that
is when the seven years were up,
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he says at that
time, at that point of time
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and the word is Zeman here...
my reason returned unto me;
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and for the glory of
my kingdom, mine honor
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and brightness returned unto me;
00:14:32.27\00:14:34.04
and my counsellors and
my lords sought unto me;
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and I was established in
my kingdom, and excellent
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majesty was added unto me.
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So are Iddan and
Zeman synonymous?
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>> Absolutely.
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>> And as I mentioned, if
you come tomorrow to the meeting
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and you know my
production crew doesn't like me
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to say that I'm
promising to give you something
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because everybody
who watches on television
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then they're calling this
and saying send me one too.
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But anyway, I promise that I'm
going to send you this handout
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where you can check
out all of the references
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in the book of Daniel
to Iddan and to Zeman,
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and you're going to see
that they're synonymous.
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>> The point that
I'm trying to make folks
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is, that the expression
times and seasons simply means
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God's prophetic calendar.
The way in which prophecy
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is gonna be
fulfilled, the prophetic chain
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if you please that
God is established.
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Did God establish a prophetic
chain for Nebuchadnezzar's
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insanity? Did God
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say, you are going to
go insane for seven years
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and then after that you are
going to get your reason back.
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Did God make that prediction?
Established that period of time?
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He most certainly did.
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Now, let's go also to
Daniel chapter 7 and verse 12,
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and then we will read
verse 22 and you're going to see
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once again that
these words are synonymous.
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Daniel chapter 7 verse 12,
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and we're not going
to interpret this verse
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because it would take us far
beyond the time that we have.
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But it says there in
Daniel chapter 7 and verse 12,
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And concerning the
rest of the beasts,
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they had their
dominion taken away,
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yet their lives were prolonged
for a season and a time.
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So is that basically
saying the same thing?
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For a period of time, a season
and a time is a period of time.
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The word that is used
there, the word season,
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is the word Zeman,
and the word time Iddan.
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So you'll notice once
again in the same verse
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you have these two
words that are linked together
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that basically are supposed
to be understood as together.
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And then let's notice verse 22.
Daniel chapter 7 and verse 22
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It says, Until the Ancient
of days came, and judgment
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was given to the
saints of the most High;
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and the time came that the
saints possessed the kingdom.
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Now when we find in
Daniel seven verse twelve
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that God extended the period for
these beasts a time in a season,
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does that mean that God
established a certain time
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for this to
happen to these beasts?
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Was God
establishing a prophetic time?
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Absolutely, and in verse twenty
two, is there a specific time
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when the Saints are going to
receive the kingdom from Jesus?
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Is that a prophetic event that's
under God's control? Absolutely.
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So the words Iddan and
Zeman are used to describe
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prophetic events. God's control
of the prophetic calendar
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if you please.
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Now, let's notice an
illustration that we find
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in Daniel chapter 2
and Daniel chapter 3.
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>> You remember the
story of Daniel Chapter 2.
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>> The king had a dream.
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And this dream, he
forgot when he woke up.
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So he did what a normal
King would do back then, a pagan
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king. >> He called all of his
astrologers, and his magicians,
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and the Chaldeans, the
experts of the kingdom,
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to tell the King
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not only the
interpretation but the dream.
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>> By the way, this
shows that Satan is not able
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to read the mind.
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Because I'm sure
the devil was dying
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to read the mind of the king
to know what he had dreamed,
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but he couldn't.
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>> And so these
charlatans were unmasked.
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It was proved that
they were charlatans,
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that they didn't
know what they were doing.
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And so you know the
story, calls the wise men,
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they're not able
to tell the dream
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and much less
the interpretation.
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So eventually the
king, Daniel goes in
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and says to the king
now please give me some time
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and I'll go look
in my crystal ball
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and then I'll let you know.
No, that's not what he said.
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Give me some
time I'll go outside
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and look at the stars
at night and astrology
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will tell me the
King's dream. No no no.
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>> What did Daniel do? He
went to his private chambers
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and he prayed to
the Lord for wisdom.
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Which we find in Daniel chapter
two and verse twenty one.
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And so, Daniel is given
wisdom to give the dream
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and the
interpretation of the dream.
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>> So that's the
first aspect that we find
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in Daniel chapter 2 verse 21.
It's actually the third item,
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and that is
that God gives wisdom
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and understanding to the wise.
That's what he did to Daniel
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so that Daniel
could explain the vision
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and could actually
give him the vision.
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But notice Daniel two verses
thirty seven and thirty eight.
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This is very interesting
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because we have the
second element of Daniel 2:21.
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It says: You, O
King,... here Daniel is
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speaking to
Nebuchadnezzar... You, O king,
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are a king of kings
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>> Why was he a king of kings?
>> Well, he had better weapons,
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he was much more intelligent.
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Is that the reason
why? No, You O king,
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>> are a King of
Kings for the God of heaven
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has given you a kingdom,
power, strength, and glory;
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who places kings
and removes Kings
00:20:16.71\00:20:18.51
according to Daniel
2:21? God does. See, here
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Daniel is reminding
Nebuchadnezzar of that
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and God gave Daniel wisdom
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in order to tell
him this beforehand.
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So you have two elements
there from Daniel two verse
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twenty one. And
then I continue saying:
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and wherever the
children of men dwell,
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or the beasts of the
field and the birds of the air.
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He has given
them into your hand,
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and has made you
ruler over them all.
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Who is it that places
kings and removes kings,
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who determines who rules?
God does. Who gives wisdom
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so that an individual
can tell the king his dream,
00:20:53.65\00:20:57.72
and what the
dream means? God does.
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But there is a third element.
This is very interesting.
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The third element is
that God changes the times
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and the seasons.
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Now let's pursue
that for a moment.
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After
Nebuchadnezzar heard his dream
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he said yeah
this is what I dream.
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>> And after Daniel
explained his dream, you know,
00:21:18.64\00:21:22.98
that there was gonna be the
head of gold, Babylon; breast
00:21:22.98\00:21:25.95
and arms of silver, Medo-Persia;
the belly of bronze,
00:21:25.95\00:21:29.32
Greece; the legs of iron, Rome;
00:21:29.32\00:21:31.82
and the ten toes
which are the same thing
00:21:31.82\00:21:33.56
as the ten horns in
Daniel chapter seven,
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which means that there was gonna
be a division. Nebuchadnezzar,
00:21:35.96\00:21:39.89
at first he was amazed he says,
00:21:40.70\00:21:42.00
wow, look at this guy so wise.
00:21:42.00\00:21:45.33
His God must be the true
God. That's what he thought.
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But then after a little
00:21:49.94\00:21:51.17
while Nebuchadnezzar
said to himself, huh,
00:21:51.17\00:21:54.91
so Babylon is only
going to be the head of gold.
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That's not the way history
is going to transpire. History
00:22:01.35\00:22:06.09
isn't going to
transpire the way God says.
00:22:06.09\00:22:08.26
I am in control of history.
00:22:09.82\00:22:11.66
So what did then Nebuchadnezzar
do? Nebuchadnezzar
00:22:12.83\00:22:16.80
made an image totally of gold.
what is that Nebuchadnezzar is
00:22:16.80\00:22:22.84
really saying?
He's saying history
00:22:22.84\00:22:25.57
is not going to follow the way
00:22:25.57\00:22:27.04
God says, it's going
to flow the way I say.
00:22:27.04\00:22:30.61
He's trying to take control
of God's prophetic calendar.
00:22:32.38\00:22:36.02
He's trying to counteract
God's prophetic calendar.
00:22:36.69\00:22:39.29
That's the third element
and Daniel to verse twenty one
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right before this
whole story takes place.
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And so the King makes
an image totally of gold.
00:22:46.03\00:22:48.66
And you know the
story. He commands
00:22:50.17\00:22:52.57
everyone in his realm who
was present there to worship the
00:22:52.57\00:22:57.21
image that he has raised up.
But there are three young men
00:22:57.21\00:23:00.48
that say we will
not bow down on worship.
00:23:01.34\00:23:03.48
>> Now, we need to
understand that the issue here
00:23:03.48\00:23:05.71
is greater than
the issue of worship.
00:23:05.71\00:23:07.55
>> The issue is
these three young men
00:23:08.38\00:23:10.29
are not only not willing to
worship, practice false worship,
00:23:10.29\00:23:14.02
but they are unwilling to
believe the prophetic scenario
00:23:14.59\00:23:18.49
that the king is portraying.
00:23:18.49\00:23:20.20
Because God has said how
history is going to develop.
00:23:20.93\00:23:23.57
So they're not only saying,
00:23:24.43\00:23:25.77
we're not going to
practice false worship,
00:23:25.77\00:23:27.64
they are saying we
are not going to believe
00:23:27.64\00:23:32.07
the prophetic scenario
that the king is giving.
00:23:32.07\00:23:35.11
Where he's trying to
take control of God's times.
00:23:35.11\00:23:37.71
And so Nebuchadnezzar hears
that there are three young men
00:23:39.55\00:23:43.35
that did not bow
down to worship the image.
00:23:44.32\00:23:46.86
So the king says, bring
those three young men here
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and he threatens
them. He says to them:
00:23:51.99\00:23:54.73
is it true, Shadrach,
Meshach, and Abed-nego that
00:23:54.73\00:23:57.83
you don't worship the image
that I raised up? which Ellen
00:23:57.83\00:24:00.54
White says represented
the eternity of Babylon. That
00:24:00.54\00:24:04.34
Babylon would last forever.
The Babylon would never fall.
00:24:04.34\00:24:07.34
>> You don't accept my
perspective of history,
00:24:08.68\00:24:10.58
you don't worship my image.
00:24:10.58\00:24:12.28
>> Do you see that
fiery furnace over there?
00:24:13.21\00:24:16.02
If you don't bow
and bow down and worship
00:24:16.99\00:24:20.02
you'll be thrown
into that fiery furnace,
00:24:20.86\00:24:23.89
and what god will be able
to deliver you from my hand?
00:24:23.89\00:24:27.23
It's a direct
challenge against God.
00:24:29.03\00:24:32.40
>>  He's saying
I, am more powerful
00:24:34.27\00:24:36.44
than the God of the
Hebrews. Let me ask you,
00:24:36.44\00:24:39.77
>> did God change the king's
plans? He most certainly did.
00:24:39.77\00:24:45.81
You know the
story. The three young men
00:24:46.72\00:24:49.22
were thrown into
the fiery furnace
00:24:49.22\00:24:50.92
and Nebuchadnezzar
says, problem solved.
00:24:51.82\00:24:56.36
>> This shows that
I'm in control of history,
00:24:56.36\00:24:58.83
that's my scenario,
there's no opposition now.
00:24:58.83\00:25:00.90
Suddenly he looks
into the furnaces and says:
00:25:01.83\00:25:04.00
>> did we cast into
the furnace three men?
00:25:04.60\00:25:07.14
Well, I see four men
walking like in the garden.
00:25:08.64\00:25:11.71
And they're not consumed, and
00:25:14.38\00:25:16.04
the figure of
the fourth individual
00:25:16.04\00:25:18.81
is like the son of God.
00:25:18.81\00:25:20.52
Did the Lord change
Nebuchadnezzar's scenario? Did
00:25:23.28\00:25:29.06
God show that he is sovereign,
and that history will develop
00:25:29.06\00:25:32.86
as he had said
that it will develop?
00:25:32.86\00:25:34.96
>> Absolutely.
00:25:35.60\00:25:37.60
In other words, God is in
control of the kinds of Iddan
00:25:37.60\00:25:44.21
and Zeman. Now, Ellen
White has a perceptive concept
00:25:45.41\00:25:48.54
that we find in
Patriarchs and Prophets page
00:25:48.54\00:25:50.48
five hundred and four, speaking
about why Nebuchadnezzar
00:25:50.48\00:25:53.65
raised up that
image totally of gold.
00:25:53.65\00:25:56.05
She wrote: Instead of
reproducing the image as he had
00:25:56.72\00:25:59.92
seen it, he would
excel the original. His image
00:26:01.19\00:26:07.13
should not deteriorate in
value from the head to the feet,
00:26:07.76\00:26:11.50
but should be entirely of gold-
symbolic throughout of Babylon
00:26:12.33\00:26:18.21
as an eternal, indestructible
all powerful kingdom,
00:26:18.21\00:26:23.75
which would break in
pieces all other kingdoms
00:26:23.75\00:26:28.08
and stand forever.
00:26:28.08\00:26:30.72
>>  Did God interrupt
Nebuchadnezzar's perspective
00:26:33.99\00:26:38.29
of history? That God take
control and say history will
00:26:38.29\00:26:42.76
develop as I say, not as
you say? He most certainly did.
00:26:42.76\00:26:46.67
So we have these three
expressions in Daniel 2:21.
00:26:47.27\00:26:50.44
If we had time I would
show you that this theme runs
00:26:50.44\00:26:53.48
in all of the chapters of
Daniel. The central theme of
00:26:53.48\00:26:57.15
Daniel is that God is in
control of human history,
00:26:57.15\00:26:59.51
and whoever
allies himself with God
00:27:01.48\00:27:04.72
will end up victorious with God
00:27:05.69\00:27:08.96
because God is in
control of prophetic events.
00:27:08.96\00:27:12.49
We have another
illustration of this.
00:27:13.70\00:27:15.50
In Daniel chapter 6.
00:27:16.16\00:27:18.20
You remember the story
of Daniel in the lion's den.
00:27:18.20\00:27:21.30
You know when I was
a kid I used to love
00:27:21.30\00:27:23.27
that story, specially
when it got to the part
00:27:23.27\00:27:24.51
of Daniel
00:27:24.51\00:27:26.74
being thrown
into the lion's den.
00:27:26.74\00:27:28.44
You know, and not
being eaten by the lions.
00:27:29.11\00:27:31.45
The king established
a law that for 30 days,
00:27:32.85\00:27:36.25
is that a set
time a specific time?
00:27:36.25\00:27:38.09
Absolutely. That no one
could make a request of God
00:27:38.75\00:27:43.86
or man other than the
king. So he makes this decree.
00:27:43.86\00:27:47.03
And the interesting
thing is that then the King
00:27:48.16\00:27:51.80
after he gives the decree,
00:27:51.80\00:27:53.40
he discovers that
what these evil men wanted
00:27:53.40\00:27:58.21
was to get rid of Daniel,
and the king loved Daniel
00:27:58.21\00:28:01.34
But he's been tricked into
this, and the laws of the Medes
00:28:02.18\00:28:04.81
and Persians
could not be changed.
00:28:04.81\00:28:06.51
>> And so now it appears that
Daniel is going to cat food.
00:28:07.45\00:28:10.42
>> And so the king, he
goes right before Daniel
00:28:12.15\00:28:15.86
is cast into the lion's den
00:28:15.86\00:28:17.56
and he says: Daniel, I
am bound by my own law.
00:28:18.36\00:28:24.23
>>  I cannot
deliver you, may the God
00:28:26.67\00:28:30.67
who you
continually serve deliver you
00:28:30.67\00:28:34.08
because I can't. Did God
00:28:34.08\00:28:38.35
intervene and
change the king's plans?
00:28:39.98\00:28:43.59
He most certainly
did. You know the story.
00:28:44.25\00:28:46.32
>>  Daniel it's taken,
he's thrown into the lion's den.
00:28:47.79\00:28:51.16
And the enemies
say problem solved.
00:28:52.49\00:28:54.93
>> And so the king
he's not able to sleep,
00:28:57.33\00:28:59.23
no musicians are
brought before him.
00:29:00.24\00:29:02.04
>> He's suffering
terrible insomnia all night
00:29:02.90\00:29:08.11
because his friend
Daniel is in the lion's den.
00:29:08.11\00:29:10.45
So the next morning
he goes to the lion's den
00:29:11.15\00:29:13.48
and he says:
00:29:13.48\00:29:15.18
Oh Daniel, has the God
whom you continually serve
00:29:15.75\00:29:19.55
been able to deliver
you from the lions den?
00:29:20.22\00:29:23.22
>> Has he overturned
my law and protected you?
00:29:23.22\00:29:26.33
>> And Daniel
says what? Daniel said,
00:29:27.30\00:29:30.30
the Lord sent his angel
00:29:30.30\00:29:32.87
>>  and he shut the lion's mouth
00:29:36.57\00:29:38.27
so that the lions would not
eaten me. Was God in control?
00:29:39.37\00:29:42.18
Does God care
really when human beings
00:29:43.61\00:29:45.75
establish a time period
for something to happen?
00:29:45.75\00:29:48.35
Can God intervene and
can he interfere with that
00:29:48.35\00:29:51.72
and make his plan be fulfilled?
00:29:51.72\00:29:53.42
>> Now I want you
to notice Daniel 6.
00:29:54.22\00:29:56.49
This is really important
there's a key word here.
00:29:56.49\00:29:59.86
Daniel Chapter 6 and
we'll start reading at verse 14.
00:29:59.86\00:30:03.70
The key word is
changed. Then the King,
00:30:03.70\00:30:07.17
when he heard these words, was
sore displeased with himself,...
00:30:08.24\00:30:12.51
this is when he discovers the
plot of the enemies of Daniel...
00:30:12.51\00:30:16.31
and set his heart on Daniel
to deliver him: and he laboured
00:30:16.31\00:30:20.42
till the going down of
the sun to deliver him.
00:30:20.42\00:30:23.12
Then these men assembled
unto the King, and said unto the
00:30:24.02\00:30:28.32
king, Know, O king, that
the law the Medes and Persians
00:30:29.09\00:30:32.69
is, that no decree nor statute
00:30:32.69\00:30:35.10
which the king
established may be changed.
00:30:35.10\00:30:37.80
>> This is the
the prophetic period
00:30:37.80\00:30:39.90
that
established for thirty days.
00:30:39.90\00:30:42.07
>> Verse 16, Then
the king commanded,
00:30:42.07\00:30:44.84
and they brought Daniel,
00:30:44.84\00:30:46.07
and cast him
into the den of lions.
00:30:46.07\00:30:48.58
Now the king spake and
said unto Daniel, Thy God
00:30:48.58\00:30:52.28
whom thou servest continually,
00:30:52.28\00:30:54.02
he will deliver thee.
And the stone was brought,
00:30:54.02\00:30:57.39
and laid upon the mouth of
the den; and the king sealed it
00:30:57.39\00:31:00.32
with his own signet, and
with the signet of his lords;
00:31:00.32\00:31:03.69
that the purpose might not
be changed concerning Daniel.
00:31:03.69\00:31:09.06
But did God change the
plan concerning Daniel?
00:31:09.96\00:31:13.90
>> He most certainly did.
>> So what I'm saying folks
00:31:13.90\00:31:17.37
is that the expression,
00:31:17.37\00:31:19.51
he shall think to
change times in the law
00:31:21.08\00:31:25.15
and the times, the law,
we know what that means.
00:31:25.78\00:31:29.35
>> It means that
the papacy would remove
00:31:29.35\00:31:32.69
the second commandment basically
00:31:32.69\00:31:34.66
and he would think
that he could change
00:31:34.66\00:31:36.49
the commandment
concerning the Sabbath.
00:31:36.49\00:31:38.59
But the change in the times
00:31:38.59\00:31:40.60
would mean that
somehow the little horn
00:31:40.60\00:31:44.10
or the papacy
would try to interfere
00:31:44.10\00:31:46.87
with God's prophetic
calendar. Are you understand me?
00:31:46.87\00:31:51.04
In other words, somehow
the little horn would attempt
00:31:52.04\00:31:56.34
to change God's
scenario of prophetic events.
00:31:56.34\00:31:59.85
How events are going
to transpire in history.
00:31:59.85\00:32:02.52
Perhaps hide the
identity of the Antichrist
00:32:03.79\00:32:07.49
by establishing a
counterfeit prophetic scenario.
00:32:07.49\00:32:11.06
Are u
understanding what I am saying?
00:32:11.06\00:32:12.33
That's what the
change in the Ttmes means.
00:32:12.33\00:32:15.36
And the question is, did
the Roman Catholic papacy
00:32:15.36\00:32:18.43
attempt to meddle
00:32:19.07\00:32:20.94
with God's prophetic
calendar, with God's chain.
00:32:21.54\00:32:25.71
if you please, and
institute a counterfeit way
00:32:25.71\00:32:30.21
of interpreting
events to distract people
00:32:30.21\00:32:33.98
from the true
meaning of Bible prophecy?
00:32:33.98\00:32:36.25
In the next
several presentations
00:32:37.29\00:32:38.99
we're going to notice that
that is exactly what happened.
00:32:38.99\00:32:41.82
Now we also need to examine
the expression times and times
00:32:42.69\00:32:48.00
and seasons in
the New Testament.
00:32:48.00\00:32:49.86
Because those words are
used in the New Testament,
00:32:50.90\00:32:54.17
they are Greek words. They're
not Iddan and Zeman. They are
00:32:54.17\00:32:59.91
Kairos and Chronos where we
get the word chronology from.
00:32:59.91\00:33:03.01
But the parallel is there.
00:33:03.01\00:33:04.71
So let's examine what
the word time or times
00:33:05.38\00:33:09.08
in a prophetic context
represents in the New Testament.
00:33:09.08\00:33:11.89
Go with me to
Galatians chapter 4
00:33:12.65\00:33:14.36
and verse 4.
Galatians chapter 4 and verse 4.
00:33:14.36\00:33:18.19
Very interesting verse.
00:33:19.46\00:33:21.30
Did God have a specific
date when he was going to send
00:33:21.30\00:33:24.27
Jesus to this world
to become incarnate?
00:33:24.27\00:33:27.07
Did God had that on
this calendar? Ellen White
00:33:27.07\00:33:30.01
has a remarkable
statement in Desire of Ages
00:33:30.01\00:33:32.04
where she says that everything
that Jesus did on this earth
00:33:32.04\00:33:36.28
was in harmony with the
calendar that they had settled
00:33:36.28\00:33:39.41
in eternity past.
Every single event.
00:33:39.41\00:33:41.48
An amazing statement. Notice
Galatians four verse four.
00:33:42.15\00:33:45.29
when the fullness
of the time had come,
00:33:46.02\00:33:50.09
God sent forth His Son, born
of a woman, born under the law.
00:33:50.79\00:33:55.63
Does that word
time have anything to do
00:33:55.63\00:33:57.33
with God's
prophetic calendar? Sure.
00:33:57.33\00:34:00.44
When the time
arrived in God's calendar,
00:34:01.30\00:34:03.74
The Messiah came to
the world. Noticed Mark
00:34:05.74\00:34:09.74
chapter one and verse fifteen.
What I want you to see now
00:34:09.74\00:34:13.58
folks, this is very
important, is that the word
00:34:14.32\00:34:16.38
time and times when it
refers to Bible prophecy,
00:34:16.38\00:34:19.79
is referring to God's
calendar or prophetic events.
00:34:19.79\00:34:22.32
Events that God has established
00:34:22.32\00:34:24.19
that are going to happen
in his timing and in his way.
00:34:24.19\00:34:26.96
Notice Mark 1 verse 15.
00:34:27.86\00:34:30.07
>> Jesus has just been baptized,
and now he's gonna say something
00:34:31.50\00:34:36.14
at the very
beginning of his ministry.
00:34:36.14\00:34:38.27
He says, The
time is fulfilled,...
00:34:38.27\00:34:42.08
>>  Tht word Kairos in
Greek... The time is fulfilled,
00:34:44.01\00:34:49.18
and the Kingdom of
God is at hand. Repent
00:34:49.98\00:34:54.86
and believe the gospel.
00:34:54.86\00:34:56.22
>> What was Jesus
referring to when he says
00:34:56.22\00:34:58.63
that time is fulfilled?
00:34:59.16\00:35:01.06
>>  He is
referring to the conclusion
00:35:03.73\00:35:07.40
of the prophecy of the 70
week. You'll see, his baptism
00:35:08.07\00:35:13.74
was predicted the
exact moment of his baptism
00:35:13.74\00:35:16.61
was predicted in
Daniel chapter 9.
00:35:16.61\00:35:19.58
>> And so after
Jesus is baptized
00:35:20.48\00:35:22.52
which is his
anointing as the Messiah,
00:35:22.52\00:35:24.85
he says, the time is
fulfilled. So does the word time
00:35:24.85\00:35:29.32
has anything to do
with prophetic events?
00:35:29.32\00:35:31.43
It most certainly does. Let
me read you from Ellen White.
00:35:32.13\00:35:35.76
Desire of Ages page
two hundred and thirty two.
00:35:35.76\00:35:38.17
The time which He
declared to be fulfilled
00:35:39.27\00:35:41.97
was the period made known
by the angel Gabriel to Daniel.
00:35:43.00\00:35:47.01
So the time that
Jesus said is fulfilled,
00:35:48.04\00:35:50.05
is what God revealed to Daniel.
What did he reveal to him?
00:35:51.05\00:35:54.22
'Seventy weeks' said the angel,
00:35:54.22\00:35:56.15
'are determined upon thy
people and upon thy holy city,
00:35:56.72\00:36:00.06
to finish the transgression,
to make an end of sins, and
00:36:00.06\00:36:02.66
to make
reconciliation for iniquity,
00:36:02.66\00:36:04.63
and to bring in
everlasting righteousness,
00:36:04.63\00:36:06.56
and to seal up the
vision and prophecy,
00:36:06.56\00:36:08.56
and to anoint the
most holy'. So when
00:36:08.56\00:36:12.27
Jesus said the
time is fulfilled,
00:36:12.27\00:36:14.30
is he talking about
specific event on God's calendar
00:36:14.30\00:36:17.61
that took place exactly when God
said it was going to take place?
00:36:17.61\00:36:20.94
Absolutely.
Notice Acts 1: 7 and 8.
00:36:20.94\00:36:24.81
This very interesting
verse, similar to Daniel 2:21.
00:36:24.81\00:36:27.55
Acts chapter 1 verses 7 and 8.
00:36:28.18\00:36:31.35
Before we read those
two verses let me say
00:36:31.35\00:36:34.42
that Jesus is
responding to a question
00:36:34.42\00:36:36.83
that his disciples asked.
00:36:36.83\00:36:38.93
>> Let's read Acts
chapter 1 and verse 6,
00:36:38.93\00:36:41.83
and then we'll
read verses 7 and 8.
00:36:41.83\00:36:43.53
The disciples come to Jesus
and they ask him: Lord will you
00:36:44.87\00:36:50.51
at this time restart
the kingdom to Israel?
00:36:50.51\00:36:54.41
You know , on your
prophetic calendar,
00:36:55.84\00:36:58.18
is this the moment to
restore the kingdom of Israel?
00:36:58.18\00:37:01.95
What was the answer of Jesus?
Notice, And he said unto them,
00:37:03.42\00:37:08.16
it is not for you to
know times or seasons.
00:37:09.22\00:37:12.76
>> Does that sound familiar?
Is that referring to a prophetic
00:37:13.63\00:37:17.57
event? >> Yes!, It is not
for you to know times or seasons
00:37:18.40\00:37:22.14
which the Father has
put in His own authority.
00:37:22.14\00:37:25.14
So who is in control of
the times and the seasons?
00:37:26.21\00:37:28.94
Jesus is saying to them,
it's none of your business
00:37:30.08\00:37:32.75
because the times and
seasons are in God's control.
00:37:34.68\00:37:37.65
He says when things
are going to happen.
00:37:38.65\00:37:40.79
So it says,
00:37:41.79\00:37:43.19
And he said to them, "It is not
for you to know times or seasons
00:37:43.19\00:37:47.20
which the Father has
put in His own authority.
00:37:47.20\00:37:49.40
But you shall receive power
00:37:50.20\00:37:51.87
when the Holy
Spirit has come upon you;
00:37:52.47\00:37:54.37
and you shall be
witnesses to Me in Jerusalem,
00:37:54.90\00:37:57.27
and in all Judea and Samaria,
and to the end of the earth."
00:37:57.27\00:38:02.08
>> So let me ask you, what
would times and seasons refer
00:38:02.08\00:38:05.71
to in Daniel
chapter 2 and verse 21?
00:38:05.71\00:38:07.75
>> He changes the
times and the seasons.
00:38:08.42\00:38:10.69
It must refer to God's prophetic
what? God's prophetic calendar.
00:38:11.32\00:38:15.16
How he has revealed that
prophetic events will transpire.
00:38:15.82\00:38:18.86
In some way, the little
horn was going to attempt
00:38:19.69\00:38:23.93
to change God's
prophetic calendar.
00:38:23.93\00:38:25.70
He was going to try to deflect
the true fulfillment of prophecy
00:38:26.43\00:38:30.81
by establishing a
counter-fit scenario,
00:38:30.81\00:38:33.58
and I'm going to show to
you in the next several lectures
00:38:34.61\00:38:37.85
how the Roman
Catholic papacy did that.
00:38:37.85\00:38:39.95
>> It is historical. It
is exactly what took place.
00:38:40.65\00:38:43.39
And I'll get a
little bit ahead of myself.
00:38:43.95\00:38:45.95
The Roman Catholic
papacy instituted a system
00:38:45.95\00:38:48.39
of prophetic
interpretation called preterism.
00:38:48.39\00:38:51.83
The idea that the
prophecy of the little horn
00:38:51.83\00:38:57.07
was fulfilled in
the old testament
00:38:57.07\00:38:58.97
was the person
called Antiochus Epiphanes.
00:38:58.97\00:39:01.70
If that prophecy
of the little horn
00:39:03.61\00:39:05.34
was fulfilled in
the old testament,
00:39:05.34\00:39:08.11
it has nothing to
do with the papacy.
00:39:08.11\00:39:10.01
Are you with me or not?
00:39:11.11\00:39:13.21
>> Also a Roman Catholic Jesuit
established another system
00:39:13.21\00:39:16.45
of
interpretation called futurism.
00:39:16.45\00:39:18.22
And basically he thought
that the Antichrist will arise
00:39:19.89\00:39:23.02
at the very end
of human history.
00:39:23.02\00:39:25.16
And if that's true the papacy
does not fulfill that prophecy.
00:39:26.13\00:39:29.96
Is this changing God's times,
00:39:31.43\00:39:34.24
changing God's
prophetic scenario?
00:39:34.24\00:39:36.14
>> You're gonna be
amazed as you hear this story
00:39:36.87\00:39:39.37
in the next
several presentation.
00:39:39.37\00:39:41.18
It's gonna it's gonna take
us five or six presentations
00:39:41.18\00:39:44.68
to fully develop this in
the next several lectures.
00:39:44.68\00:39:47.78
Now let's go to first
Thessalonians chapter 5
00:39:48.42\00:39:51.39
and verses 1 and
2. First Thessalonians
00:39:51.39\00:39:53.82
chapter 5 and verses 1 and 2.
00:39:53.82\00:39:55.59
Once again we find the same
expression times and seasons.
00:39:55.59\00:40:00.56
>> Notice what it says
there. The Apostle Paul writes,
00:40:01.63\00:40:07.07
But concerning the
times and the seasons,
00:40:07.67\00:40:16.04
brethren, you have no need
that I should write to you.
00:40:17.91\00:40:22.32
Once again the same expression
times and seasons. Now,
00:40:24.49\00:40:27.66
what was the apostle Paul
saying when he said to them,
00:40:27.66\00:40:30.86
about the times and seasons
00:40:30.86\00:40:32.66
I have no need that
I should write to you?
00:40:33.60\00:40:35.43
>> Well we need to look
at the following verses.
00:40:35.43\00:40:37.90
In the following verses
00:40:37.90\00:40:39.33
the apostle Paul is talking
about the clause of probation
00:40:39.33\00:40:43.17
and the second coming of Christ.
00:40:43.17\00:40:44.87
He says, I don't have to really
instruct you about the times
00:40:46.34\00:40:50.68
and the seasons.
Which does God has a date
00:40:50.68\00:40:53.58
for the close of
probation? Does God has a date
00:40:53.58\00:40:57.02
in his calendar for
the close of probation?
00:40:57.02\00:40:59.19
>> Yes, Does God has a
date for the second coming?
00:40:59.19\00:41:01.86
You say, well no,
the date is movable.
00:41:03.12\00:41:06.73
No it isn't.
00:41:06.73\00:41:08.70
God has a date on his
calendar for the second coming.
00:41:08.70\00:41:11.43
But we don't know
the day or the hour.
00:41:12.97\00:41:14.90
>> That's what Jesus said. No
one knows the day and the hour,
00:41:14.90\00:41:17.71
but there is a day and an hour.
00:41:17.71\00:41:19.41
Was there a day an
hour to begin the judgment?
00:41:20.04\00:41:22.34
Absolutely.
00:41:23.18\00:41:24.78
And so the
apostle Paul when he says
00:41:24.78\00:41:26.38
but concerning the times
and the seasons, brethren,
00:41:26.38\00:41:28.88
you have no need that
I should write to you.
00:41:28.88\00:41:30.62
>> In other
words, I've talked to you
00:41:30.62\00:41:31.95
about these prophetic events
00:41:31.95\00:41:33.42
before. In the succeeding
context in verses 2 through 6,
00:41:33.42\00:41:38.29
the apostle Paul is describing
events relating to the end.
00:41:39.03\00:41:44.03
He is describing
events that have to do
00:41:44.80\00:41:47.04
with the closer of probation
and the second coming of Jesus.
00:41:47.04\00:41:50.11
By the way, this
00:41:51.01\00:41:53.24
word for, this expression times
00:41:53.24\00:41:57.28
and seasons
according to the Greek lexicon,
00:41:57.28\00:42:01.08
one of the better Greek
lexicon's of the New Testament.
00:42:01.82\00:42:04.65
>> It's called the
Greek- English Lexicon
00:42:05.39\00:42:10.46
of the New Testament and
other Christian Literature,
00:42:10.46\00:42:13.26
basically it says
that these words can mean-
00:42:14.30\00:42:17.57
definite, fixed,
determined or alloted time.
00:42:17.57\00:42:21.84
And then it goes on to
explain that the word Kairos
00:42:23.10\00:42:26.94
is one of the chief
eschatological terms.
00:42:26.94\00:42:30.35
The word eschatological
means, end time terms,
00:42:30.35\00:42:32.71
having to do with Bible
prophecy. So are u understanding
00:42:32.71\00:42:39.39
this point? >> What
did the little horn do?
00:42:40.62\00:42:42.32
The little horn ,not only
thought it could change God's
00:42:43.02\00:42:46.29
holy law by removing the second
commandment from the catechism,
00:42:47.66\00:42:51.47
>> even though it's
in Roman Catholic Bibles,
00:42:51.47\00:42:53.97
and by attempting to
change the day of worship
00:42:53.97\00:42:56.04
from Sabbath the
Sunday. But it even went so far
00:42:56.04\00:42:59.71
as to attempt to change
the order of prophetic events
00:42:59.71\00:43:04.01
that God established just
like Nebuchadnezzar tried to do
00:43:04.01\00:43:07.38
when he built the image
00:43:07.38\00:43:09.28
saying Babylon will be
eternal, prophetic history
00:43:09.28\00:43:12.22
will not transpire as God
has said, it will transpire as I
00:43:12.22\00:43:16.19
say. >> Now let's
notice a few other texts
00:43:17.36\00:43:19.23
that describe the
times. Luke chapter 21 verse
00:43:19.23\00:43:24.23
twenty four, Luke
21 and verse twenty.
00:43:24.23\00:43:27.67
This speaks about a
very interesting period.
00:43:29.37\00:43:31.84
And you're going to see
what the word times means.
00:43:33.84\00:43:36.34
>> It says here in
Luke 21 and verse 24.
00:43:37.11\00:43:40.02
speaking about the
Jews the Jewish nation.
00:43:41.78\00:43:44.09
And they will fall by
the edge of the sword,
00:43:44.89\00:43:48.89
and be led away captive
00:43:50.16\00:43:51.89
into all nations. Was
that literally fulfilled
00:43:51.89\00:43:54.66
after the destruction
of Jerusalem with the Jews?
00:43:54.66\00:43:57.70
Absolutely. And then it says,
00:43:57.70\00:44:00.57
>> And Jerusalem will
be trampled by the Gentiles
00:44:00.57\00:44:03.77
until the times of the
Gentiles are fulfilled.
00:44:04.74\00:44:10.11
Has God
establish a certain period
00:44:11.61\00:44:13.48
that is called The
times of the Gentiles? Yes.
00:44:13.48\00:44:17.52
>> And you say, what are
those times of the Gentiles?
00:44:18.32\00:44:20.99
I wish I had
time to expound upon
00:44:20.99\00:44:23.09
this one verse. What are
the times of the Gentiles?
00:44:23.09\00:44:25.99
Well, when we go to
Revelation chapter 11 in verse 2
00:44:25.99\00:44:29.13
we find a very
interesting expression.
00:44:30.77\00:44:33.34
Let's go there for
a moment to Revelation
00:44:33.34\00:44:36.24
chapter 11 verse 2.
There you're gonna find
00:44:36.24\00:44:39.21
what the times of the
Gentiles are. What period it is.
00:44:39.21\00:44:44.61
>> So it says
there in chapter eleven
00:44:44.61\00:44:47.45
and verse two of
the book of Revelation,
00:44:47.45\00:44:50.85
>> But the court
which is without the temple
00:44:52.09\00:44:55.06
leave out, and
measure it not; for
00:44:55.06\00:44:58.29
it is given unto the Gentiles:
00:44:58.29\00:45:02.50
and the the holy city shall they
tread under foot,... for how
00:45:03.60\00:45:08.17
long? Forty two months. So,
00:45:09.04\00:45:10.87
how long does the
times of the Gentiles last?
00:45:10.87\00:45:13.48
It last forty two months.
Is that a prophetic period?
00:45:14.18\00:45:17.18
>> Is it a specific prophetic
period that God is established
00:45:18.41\00:45:21.65
that must be fulfilled
the way that God has said
00:45:21.65\00:45:23.59
it's going to be fulfilled?
00:45:23.59\00:45:24.85
Absolutely. Was it
fulfilled to the very letter?
00:45:24.85\00:45:27.52
Yes. But you'll
notice that it is called
00:45:28.16\00:45:32.13
the times of the Gentiles.
Once again the word times deals
00:45:32.13\00:45:36.80
with a specific
period of prophetic events.
00:45:36.80\00:45:40.10
Now in second Thessalonians
chapter two, go with me
00:45:40.84\00:45:44.01
to second
Thessalonians chapter two.
00:45:44.01\00:45:45.74
And we're going to notice
something very interesting
00:45:47.08\00:45:49.11
about this same
period. The forty two months
00:45:49.11\00:45:52.18
the twelve
hundred and sixty days,
00:45:52.18\00:45:54.12
or what is also called the time
times and the dividing of time.
00:45:54.12\00:45:57.65
>> Second Thessalonians
chapter two and verse six.
00:45:58.39\00:46:02.69
This is talking
about the man of sin.
00:46:03.22\00:46:05.39
Do you know who
the man of sin is?
00:46:05.39\00:46:07.10
It's the same
as the little horn.
00:46:07.86\00:46:10.00
Different names are
given to this system,
00:46:10.00\00:46:11.87
to the papal system.
00:46:11.87\00:46:13.50
In some places it's
called the little horn,
00:46:13.50\00:46:15.94
in Daniel 7 and 8. In Revelation
00:46:15.94\00:46:18.31
13 it's called the beast.
In second Thessalonians 2,
00:46:18.31\00:46:22.38
it's called the man
of sin In Revelation 17
00:46:22.38\00:46:26.28
this system is
called the harlot.
00:46:26.28\00:46:29.35
In first John chapter 2,
00:46:29.35\00:46:31.09
>> it's called the
Antichrist. In Matthew 24
00:46:31.09\00:46:34.26
it's called the
abomination of desolation.
00:46:34.26\00:46:36.36
In Daniel 11 this system is
called the king of the north.
00:46:36.86\00:46:39.66
In other words, all these names
00:46:40.76\00:46:42.50
applied to the very
same system in prophecy.
00:46:42.50\00:46:45.43
>> Different names that
describe the same power.
00:46:45.43\00:46:48.10
>> Now, notice chapter
two and verse six. For a while
00:46:49.00\00:46:54.48
the Man of Sin was not visible.
00:46:55.08\00:46:58.58
He was under the
radar, if you please.
00:46:59.65\00:47:02.05
But there was a certain
moment when the Man of Sin
00:47:02.85\00:47:05.89
was gonna stick up his head
00:47:05.89\00:47:07.69
and people was gonna
see, he was gonna be revealed.
00:47:07.69\00:47:10.46
Notice second Thessalonians
Chapter 2 and verse 6.
00:47:10.46\00:47:14.00
The apostle Paul says,
00:47:14.60\00:47:16.40
And now you know
what withholdeth.
00:47:16.40\00:47:18.70
And we're going to
study this a little bit later
00:47:18.70\00:47:20.60
in more detail. And now
you know what withholdeth.
00:47:20.60\00:47:24.64
There is something holding back
the manifestation of the Man of
00:47:25.24\00:47:29.24
Sin. But then it says, that he
might be revealed in his time.
00:47:30.35\00:47:37.75
Was there a specific
time in which the Man of Sin
00:47:38.79\00:47:42.72
was going to manifest himself
so that people could see him?
00:47:42.72\00:47:45.83
>> Absolutely. When
was that time? Time,
00:47:46.66\00:47:50.67
times, the dividing of time.
00:47:50.67\00:47:52.50
Twelve hundred and
sixty days. Forty two months.
00:47:53.70\00:47:58.07
When that time came the
Man of Sin revealed himself.
00:47:58.94\00:48:03.08
But notice once again
that the word time is used here
00:48:03.08\00:48:06.21
to say that when the time comes
00:48:06.21\00:48:08.82
that God is established on
this calendar the Man of Sin
00:48:08.82\00:48:12.35
will reveal himself. Notice
first Timothy chapter six.
00:48:12.35\00:48:17.83
First Timothy chapter
six and verse fifteen.
00:48:18.36\00:48:22.60
Once again the word times
refers to prophetic events.
00:48:22.60\00:48:27.10
First Timothy chapter
six and verse fifteen.
00:48:27.10\00:48:31.27
Let's read verse
fourteen to get the context.
00:48:32.01\00:48:36.11
It says in verse fourteen, that
they'll keep his commandments
00:48:36.11\00:48:40.12
without spot, unrebukeable
00:48:40.12\00:48:43.32
until the appearing
of our Lord Jesus Christ.
00:48:44.05\00:48:46.99
What does it say next?
00:48:47.72\00:48:49.72
Which in his
times he shall show,
00:48:50.86\00:48:55.36
Is there a time for him to show?
00:48:56.87\00:48:58.57
Yes. In his times he shall show.
00:48:59.23\00:49:03.00
Who is the blessed
and only Potentate,
00:49:04.91\00:49:08.54
The King of kings
and Lord of lords;
00:49:08.54\00:49:11.65
who only hath immortality,
dwelling in the light
00:49:12.21\00:49:14.62
which no man can approach
unto; whom no man has seen
00:49:14.62\00:49:18.19
nor can see: to whom be
honor and power everlasting.
00:49:18.19\00:49:23.16
>> Amen. So once
again, he will shows himself
00:49:23.16\00:49:28.06
when the time comes.
00:49:28.73\00:49:31.60
Notice also
Revelation chapter 11.
00:49:32.40\00:49:34.64
Revelation
Chapter 11, and let's read
00:49:35.57\00:49:40.74
verse 18. Revelation
chapter 11 and verse 18.
00:49:41.28\00:49:46.72
Are you catching the
gist of what we're studying?
00:49:46.72\00:49:49.18
Are you understanding the point
00:49:50.12\00:49:51.42
that I'm trying to make
with all of these verses?
00:49:51.42\00:49:53.92
The point is folks, that when
the Bible uses the word time
00:49:54.92\00:49:59.19
and times in a prophetic context
00:49:59.19\00:50:01.50
it refers to God's
prophetic calendar, events
00:50:01.50\00:50:03.97
that he has established
that will be fulfilled
00:50:03.97\00:50:06.03
at a certain time with certain
individuals in a certain place.
00:50:06.03\00:50:09.14
>> Now notice Revelation chapter
11 verse 18, Revelation 11
00:50:09.87\00:50:14.24
and verse 18. That
the nations were angry and
00:50:14.24\00:50:19.08
thy wrath has come
and the time of the dead,
00:50:19.08\00:50:23.55
that they should be judged.
00:50:24.09\00:50:25.79
Does God have a
specific time for the
00:50:27.09\00:50:29.09
judgment of the dead?
00:50:29.09\00:50:31.29
Does he have a specific moment
00:50:33.50\00:50:34.93
that he has established in time
00:50:34.93\00:50:36.77
for the judgment
of the righteous dead?
00:50:37.27\00:50:39.23
>> What date is
that? October 22, 1844.
00:50:40.37\00:50:44.27
Onto 2300 days and the
sanctuary shall be cleansed.
00:50:45.71\00:50:50.01
>> Is that
clearly in God's calendar?
00:50:50.85\00:50:52.85
Has he established that date for
the judgment of the righteous?
00:50:52.85\00:50:56.38
Yes.
00:50:56.38\00:50:57.79
Has God also established a date
for the judgment of the wicked?
00:50:57.79\00:51:00.72
This actually is referring
to the judgment of the wicked,
00:51:01.42\00:51:04.09
it's not referred to the
judgment of the righteous.
00:51:04.09\00:51:06.06
>> Let me ask you when are the
00:51:06.06\00:51:08.03
wicked gonna be judged?
00:51:08.03\00:51:09.80
They are going to be
judged during the millennium.
00:51:13.27\00:51:17.11
Do you think God has a date for
the beginning of the millennium?
00:51:18.51\00:51:21.68
Do you think God has a date from
the beginning of the millennium?
00:51:23.14\00:51:26.65
That's what it says here.
00:51:26.65\00:51:28.35
It says in verse 18,
and the nations were angry
00:51:28.35\00:51:31.25
and thy wrath is come,
and the time of the dead,
00:51:31.89\00:51:35.66
that they should be judged, and
that thou shouldest give reward
00:51:36.19\00:51:40.30
until thy servants the
prophets, and to the saints,
00:51:40.30\00:51:42.76
and them that fear
thy name, small and great;
00:51:43.37\00:51:45.80
and shouldest destroy
them which destroy the earth.
00:51:46.43\00:51:50.07
So you'll see here once
again that very clearly God
00:51:51.27\00:51:56.04
has established a time
for the judgment of the dead
00:51:56.04\00:52:00.18
both of the righteous
and also of the wicked.
00:52:00.18\00:52:04.35
>> Now let's go to
our last reference.
00:52:05.55\00:52:08.46
>> It's also in
Revelation chapter
00:52:09.62\00:52:11.23
eleven,
Revelation chapter eleven
00:52:11.23\00:52:13.53
and we are going to
read in this chapter,
00:52:14.23\00:52:18.73
let's see if I can find it here.
00:52:18.73\00:52:20.60
>> Actually
Chapter 10 not Chapter 11.
00:52:22.54\00:52:24.74
We just went to Chapter 11.
00:52:24.74\00:52:26.44
Let's go to
Chapter 10 and verse 6
00:52:26.44\00:52:30.38
and I'm reading from
the King James Version.
00:52:31.31\00:52:33.48
Modern versions don't
really catch the nuance
00:52:33.48\00:52:36.52
of what this verse is
saying, they translated
00:52:36.52\00:52:42.66
differently only
the King James version
00:52:42.66\00:52:45.03
has the correct
translation of this verse.
00:52:45.03\00:52:47.13
Notice what it
says in verse six.
00:52:47.93\00:52:49.60
You're acquainted with
the little book episode right?
00:52:50.23\00:52:52.87
In Revelation Chapter 10
an angel descends from heaven
00:52:53.84\00:52:57.01
with little book in his hand.
You know what that book is?
00:52:57.01\00:53:01.54
It's the message concerning the
judgment in the book of Daniel.
00:53:02.68\00:53:05.68
So it comes down
with that little book
00:53:05.68\00:53:07.95
and he tells
John to eat the book.
00:53:07.95\00:53:09.65
And the book is what?
Sweet in his mouth but...
00:53:10.32\00:53:13.49
bitter in his
stomach. What does that mean?
00:53:14.52\00:53:17.69
It means that the
message of the judgment
00:53:17.69\00:53:19.73
that is contained in Daniel
when it was first assimilated.
00:53:20.30\00:53:25.33
It was gonna be
a sweet experience
00:53:25.33\00:53:27.64
but it would be
followed by a bitter aftermath.
00:53:27.64\00:53:30.34
>> Did then happen
leading up to the 1844 movement?
00:53:31.81\00:53:35.81
Did they suffer a
severe disappointment?
00:53:36.48\00:53:38.21
Did they proclaim the judgment?
00:53:38.71\00:53:39.95
Was that a sweet
message at first?
00:53:39.95\00:53:41.85
Oh absolutely. But then it
became what it became bitter.
00:53:41.85\00:53:45.19
Now it's interesting to notice
00:53:46.22\00:53:48.69
in Revelation
Chapter 10 verse 6.
00:53:48.69\00:53:50.59
Then once again, that
this angel with the little book
00:53:50.59\00:53:54.10
after the book is open.
00:53:55.20\00:53:56.63
In fact after the
great disappointment
00:53:56.63\00:53:58.67
the angel lifts up
his hand to heaven.
00:53:59.83\00:54:03.47
And he says something very
interesting verse six... And
00:54:04.71\00:54:08.64
sware by him that liveth
for ever and ever, who created
00:54:08.64\00:54:12.51
heaven, and the things that
are there in, and the earth,
00:54:12.51\00:54:15.28
and the things that
they're in are, and the sea
00:54:15.28\00:54:18.59
and the things
which are there in, that
00:54:18.59\00:54:21.82
there should be time no longer .
00:54:21.82\00:54:27.36
>> What did the angel
say? Time would be no longer.
00:54:29.33\00:54:33.40
Is this talking
about the end of the world?
00:54:33.40\00:54:35.54
It's not referring
to the end of the world.
00:54:37.41\00:54:39.14
How do we know that
it's not talking about time
00:54:39.14\00:54:41.54
comes to an end? For two
reasons. Number one, this
00:54:41.54\00:54:49.52
is happening
during the sixth trumpet
00:54:49.52\00:54:51.39
and the world doesn't come to
an end until the 7. So that time
00:54:53.59\00:54:59.46
you cannot be referring
to the end of the world .
00:54:59.46\00:55:02.20
>> And secondly,
because after the angel swears
00:55:03.87\00:55:07.60
that time will be no longer,
John has told prophesy again.
00:55:07.60\00:55:12.04
>> What good would
it do to prophesy again
00:55:13.07\00:55:16.24
if the world had come to an end?
00:55:16.24\00:55:17.95
>> So what must this refer to?
It must refer to prophetic time,
00:55:19.11\00:55:24.09
and that's how
Ellen White describes it.
00:55:25.45\00:55:27.46
>> And so what
this is saying is that
00:55:28.52\00:55:31.16
after October 22 1844
00:55:31.16\00:55:34.13
there will be no more prophecies
that have to do with time.
00:55:34.73\00:55:40.20
So have we provided
enough evidence from scripture
00:55:43.10\00:55:45.94
that the expression he changes
the times and the seasons
00:55:47.81\00:55:50.91
simply means that God is the one
00:55:50.91\00:55:53.58
that establishes the
course of prophetic events,
00:55:53.58\00:55:57.02
and when human beings mess with
that, God changes their plans
00:55:57.72\00:56:03.09
and he institutes his
plan according to his calendar.
00:56:03.09\00:56:06.80
>>  So basically folks we're
gonna see in our next studies
00:56:09.00\00:56:12.93
that the papacy has attempted
00:56:14.24\00:56:18.54
to change God's
prophetic calendar
00:56:18.54\00:56:21.38
by projecting the
fulfillment of the Antichrist
00:56:22.51\00:56:24.88
prophecies to the distant past
00:56:24.88\00:56:27.68
or the distant future.
00:56:27.68\00:56:29.78
>> And meanwhile the
papacy hides its identity
00:56:29.78\00:56:32.39
because people are
looking at the wrong time
00:56:32.39\00:56:34.59
in the wrong place.
00:56:35.19\00:56:36.89
And the sad story is
that the Protestant churches
00:56:37.43\00:56:43.03
the conservative
Protestant churches
00:56:43.03\00:56:45.10
have bought this
hook, line and sinker,
00:56:46.60\00:56:51.54
fishing pole,
fishermen, and boat.
00:56:51.54\00:56:54.01
And fish.
Protestantism has bought this.
00:56:57.85\00:57:02.68
>>  They are totally
gone away from their roots
00:57:04.42\00:57:07.42
in the Protestant Reformation,
00:57:08.09\00:57:09.82
and for this reason
they look to the Middle East,
00:57:10.66\00:57:13.46
they talk about the Muslims,
00:57:13.46\00:57:15.16
they talk about
all of these events
00:57:15.16\00:57:17.63
that are taking place in
the world in the Middle East.
00:57:17.63\00:57:20.77
>> And meanwhile the power
of the papacy grows in Rome,
00:57:21.30\00:57:24.37
and apostate Protestantism
in the United States
00:57:25.17\00:57:27.88
comes closer and closer to Rome.
00:57:28.68\00:57:30.88
And they cannot see
prophecy being fulfilled
00:57:30.88\00:57:33.15
because they're
looking in the wrong place,
00:57:33.68\00:57:35.82
in the wrong time,
for the wrong people.
00:57:36.82\00:57:39.92
This is vitally
important so I hope that
00:57:41.32\00:57:44.06
you continue coming. Spread
the word, spread the word.
00:57:44.76\00:57:48.50
>> We'd like to have
this place totally full
00:57:49.16\00:57:51.70
so that we can see how God's
prophetic events will transpire
00:57:51.70\00:57:56.30
so that we can be prepared
00:57:56.30\00:57:58.01
for what's coming very soon
upon this world. /JAB 20190219
00:57:58.54\00:58:00.81