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Welcome to The New Journey
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where you meet real life people
with real life testimonies
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and real life working ministries
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for Jesus Christ.
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I'm your host Aaron Chancy.
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Come join us on The New Journey.
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Welcome to The New Journey.
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We have an
exciting testimony today
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from a young man by the
name of Jermaine Bentley.
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Jermaine, we want to thank
you for being on the program.
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It's a pleasure,
thank you for having me.
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All right, now you're
from Louisville, Kentucky.
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Tell us about Louisville.
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Yes, Louisville
is not a big city,
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but it's not a small city,
so right there in the middle.
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You know, just enough to
do, if you want the city life,
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you can have that
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but also a good place
to raise a family also.
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Now I don't know
much about Louisville.
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I have only been there
one time in my entire life.
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What is the
atmosphere of Louisville like?
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Because, of course,
you have sports there,
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you have crime,
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you have pretty much
everything that any city has.
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But what are the various things
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that a lot of
people seem to get into,
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young black males
get into in Louisville.
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Like I said,
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like what you
touched on, sports is big,
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especially basketball,
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also the street
life is huge there too.
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Okay. You know, so it's like,
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you know, either you're
going to be playing sports
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or you're growing up,
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you know, doing
the street thing.
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Okay.
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Now talk to us about
your early home life.
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What was it like growing up?
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And did you come from
a religious background?
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Ah, growing up at home,
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it was pretty cool starting out,
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you know, I had both parents
in the household starting out,
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but towards,
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you know, my
pre-teen, teen years, you know,
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my mother was raising
us as a single parent,
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just three of us,
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definitely grew up in
a Christian household,
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grew up Baptists,
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so we went to
church every Sunday.
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Now you said you
started out in a house
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with your
mother and your father,
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they eventually
went separate ways.
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And I've heard many
stories of young people
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who are affected in a
negative way by their,
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you know, parents
going separate ways.
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And sometimes,
oftentimes, it leads them down,
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you know, a
troublesome type of lifestyle.
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How did that
affect you personally
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when your mother
and father separated?
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It definitely affected
me in a way that, you know,
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it led me to get in trouble
at times and stuff like that
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because I didn't,
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you know, felt like
I didn't have my father
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to kind of check
me on certain things
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and stuff like that.
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But it really wasn't in a
way that I really went astray
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into the streets
or anything like that,
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but I knew I was,
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you know, looking
for that male figure,
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a male that...
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You know, what was it like,
what is it like to be a male.
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You know, a black male,
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and the streets
were just showing me
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that at some point sometimes.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Now your story is a
little bit interesting
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because most of the
people that come on the program,
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they have been in
the streets real hard,
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they've used drugs, sold drugs,
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been incarcerated, a
number of things like that.
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But for you,
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you didn't get
involved in a lot of thing
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that your peers got involved in.
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And I wanna talk
about why you didn't.
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And, you know, a lot of
times, it's praised because,
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you know, a person
who has been out there
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in the streets, they
come back into the church,
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they've changed their life
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and people are
wowed by their testimony,
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but yours is a bit different.
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And when I first met
you a couple of years ago,
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I was wowed by your story
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because growing
up in Louisville,
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you didn't get
involved in a lot of things
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that your peers got involved in.
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What kept you from
getting into a lot of things
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that your peers
got involved with?
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Like I said, my mom...
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Like I said, I grew up
in a Christian household,
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you know, when I was
younger, my mom always told me,
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you know, "Believe in
Christ and believe His word."
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You know, that
kind of stuck with me.
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And I one of the
realest things I ever heard,
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you know, that anybody could,
especially at a young age,
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you know, my mother telling me
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that I can't
get you into heaven.
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Yeah, wow.
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You got to know
Jesus for yourself.
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So I'm about between 8
and 10 when she told me that.
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And I was like,
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"Man, this is one
of the realest things
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that I ever heard.
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You know, and I
think from that point,
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I was like, "Man, I got
to know Christ for myself."
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And with that, you
know, I never really grew up,
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you know, I kind of
knew about superstars
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and people I looked up to,
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but the stories
of the Bible really,
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those characters
really connected to me
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'cause I'm like,
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"Man, if the Lord can
move through them, man,
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He could do some
things through me too also."
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Praise the
Lord, praise the Lord.
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Now you play basketball,
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you said one of the things
that people do in Louisville,
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they play sports
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or they get
involved in the crime life,
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young black males
for the most part.
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For you, you got
involved in basketball,
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talk about that experience.
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Man, you know,
growing up basketball,
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that was it, like that
was what I wanted to do,
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you know, especially
living in the neighborhood
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that I lived in,
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I wanted to have a
better life for my family.
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You know, if I play basketball,
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this could be
the meal ticket out.
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You know, I wanted to play for,
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you know, the
University of Louisville
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and then go to the NBA,
that was my dream growing up.
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So, you know,
that's what I wanted to do,
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I practiced day and night.
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Okay, at what age did
you get heavily involved
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in playing basketball?
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Around six.
Around six years old?
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Mm-hm. Okay.
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So you were playing basketball,
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you were reading the
Bible at a young age,
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getting amazed by a
lot of these stories
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that you find in a Bible.
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Do you think that those stories
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and wanting to see God
do amazing things in you
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was a real big impact
to keep you from doing
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what everybody else
is doing around you?
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And I say that for this,
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for me, I was big in the sports,
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you know, just like
most young black males,
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basketball, football,
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that seems to be
the meal ticket for us.
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And so for me,
there was nothing else
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that I could see
besides basketball and football.
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Yeah, I had a
Bible and I grew up
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in the
Seventh-day Adventist church
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and I knew the
stories in the Bible,
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had gone to Sabbath
school and all these things,
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but they still didn't
have as much impact up on me
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that my friends
had a impact upon me
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or music had upon me
or sports had upon me.
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So how, for you, were
the stories of the Bible
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and basketball able to have
so much of an impact on you?
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Well, first, you know, I
felt like I was never the one
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or the type to
really follow the crowd.
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You know, I was
always different.
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Even though I was like
popular among my peers,
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I was still
different, I was still me,
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you know, me,
and I was just like,
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you know, like I said,
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the stories of the Bible
were just so powerful for me.
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And with basketball
being there, I was just like,
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"Man, I'm only me
unless Christ shows me."
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So it was just like
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leaning on Him
and stuff like that,
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knowing Him,
having that relationship
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because for me
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it wasn't just
about going to church,
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it was more than just that.
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Like, it was just more
than just going to church,
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it was a lifestyle for me.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Knowing Christ was a
lifestyle, at a young age,
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I knew that there
was a relationship
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between me and Him.
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Okay, okay.
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Now did you play
middle school ball,
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high school ball?
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So what levels of
basketball did you play?
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I made it from middle school
all the way to college, so...
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Okay, now in high school,
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there was an
article written about you.
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Talk about that article
that was written on you.
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My senior year, 2004,
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the Career Journal was
the name of the newspaper
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in that city, did
an article on me about,
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you know,
standing up for my faith
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and stuff like that.
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In the article, it talked about,
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you know, how the chance to,
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you know, play
Division I basketball,
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even get scholarships to
play college basketball...
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You know, how through the years,
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colleges have backed off
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because I would not
play on the Sabbath.
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Okay.
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It also, you know,
showed how I played varsity
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from my freshman year
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to my senior year of high school
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just showing that no matter
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what I wasn't gonna
play on the Sabbath.
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You know, I had my
coach at the time saying,
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you know, they never
seen a kid like this,
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you know, who would
stand up for his faith.
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You know,
usually kids go out there
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and take the scholarship
and play on the Sabbath
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and stuff like that.
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But then the article,
even though it said that,
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you know, colleges backed off,
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you know, I wasn't
gonna play on the Sabbath
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even if that meant
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that I wasn't gonna be
able to play college basketball,
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that was how I made up my mind.
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Now you're
mentioning the Sabbath
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but you grew up Baptist.
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At what age did you
become a Seventh-day Adventist?
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And how did you become
a Seventh-day Adventist?
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How did you learn
about Seventh-day Adventism?
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I became an
Adventist around age 14.
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Okay.
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I have a big brother,
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he's like six
years older than me.
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So he was getting Bible studies,
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you know, him and like
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a couple of my
other best friends,
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we all were like...
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They were around his
age, but they were like,
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I'm like their
little brother too.
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We would always
have Bible studies,
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like deep intense studies,
talking about the Sabbath,
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you know, arguing
Sunday and Sabbath
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and stuff like that.
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I'm just like man, just
to see, you know, brothers,
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you know, in the Word,
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knowing the Word
and doing it, man,
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it was inspiring.
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Like I said, I had
always been into the Bible,
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and that was like,
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"Man, to know my Word like that,
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that was more
powerful than anything.
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And I always wanted to
be connected like that."
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So, you know,
being involved with them
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and, you know,
going to Bible studies
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and stuff like that,
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one of the friends
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was at the
Adventist church already,
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and he got to do
some Bible studies
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and stuff like that in
the Book of Revelation.
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It was just like, yo,
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you know, growing up as Baptist,
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we didn't touch on Revelation."
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We were like,
"Yeah, hold up, man,
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don't even mess with that."
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That's real right there. Okay.
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Being able to
understand Revelation
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and the blessings
that Revelation opened up,
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it was just like, "Wow,
man, I can't beat that."
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Yeah.
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Okay, now you
learned about the Sabbath,
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you're in the
Seventh-day Adventist church,
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you get baptized
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into the
Seventh-day Adventist church,
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you're playing
basketball, the news company,
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they write an article on you,
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how did your team react to you
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not wanting to play
basketball on a Friday night?
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How did they take that?
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Well, you know, coach included,
they threw jokes, my teammates.
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You know they'd be
like, Seventh-day Adventist...
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Are you ready to turn
into a werewolf, a vampire,
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or some like that?
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But they'd throw
jokes and stuff like that,
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but they knew that there was me.
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You know, they knew
what I was going to be about,
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you know, even my coach,
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you know,
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he was getting
pressure from the principal
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and the AD of
that time to cut me
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from the team
and stuff like that.
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You know, I have a meeting
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almost every year talking about,
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you know, we ain't
gonna have room for you
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and none like
it, but he was like,
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you know, I'm going to play you.
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Yeah. I'm going to play you.
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And it was like,
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you know, I'm gonna
stand up for Christ regardless.
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So if you cut me,
you know, I understand,
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but you know, he never did.
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It was like the Lord
was working through him
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beyond what the principals
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and the AD were
telling him to do,
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he allowed me to play.
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Okay, okay.
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How does it...
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I'm really amazed by
your story for the simple fact
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that at 14 years old,
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I wasn't thinking about anything
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wanting to do with church,
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but you're studying the Bible,
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you love going to
church, and matter of fact,
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only you and your brother
are Seventh-day Adventists
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in your entire family, correct?
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Yes, sir. Okay, talk about that.
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Like, I mean, it was
just the passion of that man,
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just being able to know
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who you are in
Christ that was big for me.
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You know, like I said,
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nobody knows me
better than He does.
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You know, and
then seeing my brother,
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you know, from
the transformation
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that he had in his life,
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you know, and
how he impacted me,
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you know, that guided me
and helped me understand like,
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"Well, I want to
know Christ for myself."
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And I knew what
I was getting into,
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you know, I wanted to let,
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you know, everybody know
that this is my decision,
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that this is my life.
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Like I need to know
Christ for myself like, okay,
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it goes back to
what my mother told me,
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you know, "You got
no Christ for yourself."
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It was that
relationship building.
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You know, my
sophomore year, I tore my ACL,
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you know,
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and I guess that
brought me to reality like,
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"Yo, this
basketball thing doesn't last."
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Yeah. "Well,
Christ lasts forever."
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You know, He was
there comforting me,
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you know, guiding
me in those times,
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you know, even
though when it was hard,
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so I learned how to
pray at a young age,
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read at a young
age, but not only that,
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you know what I'm saying?
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I took it...
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It was real. Okay.
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You know, it wasn't
easy, but it was grand.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Now do you think that...
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And this is an
important question
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because some people feel
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that when it comes to basketball
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that it cannot be
used for ministry.
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How do you feel about basketball
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being used as an avenue
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to bring people into the church?
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And I say that because
I coach a basketball team
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and, you know,
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we have different
people on the team
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who are not members
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of the
Seventh-day Adventist church,
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but they come to church,
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they play on the team and
they learn about Adventism.
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And for this,
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this is a lot of
times the only way
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that they may learn
about the truth of the Bible.
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For you, in your opinion,
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how do you feel about basketball
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being used as a tool to
get young people to Jesus?
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Man, I just believe
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that you got to
let the Spirit lead.
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The Holy Spirit,
you know, guide on that.
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I feel like we are
all, we all are gifted,
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we have different talents
and everything like that.
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And, you know,
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you just got to ask
the Lord to guide you.
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I don't see, you know,
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when you're
playing sports and stuff,
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you have the
opportunity to reach out.
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You know, I have teammates,
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you know, who didn't know
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how to pray and stuff like that,
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they would ask
me to pray for them,
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you know, on the
outside of that stuff,
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you get to have conversations
that you might not have.
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You know, the opportunity
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would just come up to
him or something like that.
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But you have equal ground,
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you have equal
time that you meet them,
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but then you also can apply,
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you know, the Lord
and stuff like that.
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But, you know, the ultimate
goal is to like let them know
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that, you know what I'm saying,
that God is bigger than sports,
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but you can still play it
but know who is number one.
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Okay, okay.
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Had you not
gotten into basketball,
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what do you think you
would have gotten into?
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Had you not been this
star basketball player
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in Louisville,
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maybe you didn't even
have an interest in sports,
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but had you not
gotten into basketball,
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what do you think
you would have gotten
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into in the
streets of Louisville?
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I think I would have
got a little bit more active
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in the streets.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I would have had,
you know, probably dived
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into a little bit of some stuff,
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but I think, you
know, like I said,
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I always had
built a relationship
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with Christ, man,
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so I think that
the tug of Spirit,
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it was the way...
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I'm not saying
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that I wouldn't have
got involved in anything,
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but I still think
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I would have been
doing stuff in the ministry.
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Okay.
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How much of an
effect do you think
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that media has on
young people today?
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And not just the sports world,
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but in terms of
the different music,
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the different things
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that, you know,
young people like to watch.
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How much of an impact
do you think that this has?
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And I ask because, for
me, speaking of myself,
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music was very big for me.
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Secular hip hop
music was very big for me.
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And I saw over a period of time
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how it was just
changing me from the inside out.
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And, you know,
I would literally,
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I wouldn't just...
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Some people would say,
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"Well, it's just
"entertainment," you know.
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But for me, I would
internalize the lyrics,
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you know, and I
would live out these things
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and, you know, it
really impacted my life.
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How much of an
impact do you think
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that media has on
young people in the decisions
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that they make on
a day-to-day basis?
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Media has a big
impact, you know.
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And like what you
said, it had an impact on me.
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You know, towards,
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you know, tugging
on things like that,
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especially in music and
movies and stuff, the enemy,
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you know, Satan, he
knows what he's doing.
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He moves through
these avenues of music
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and these movies and stuff,
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they set the philosophy
in the young people's mind
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and stuff like that.
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And it is huge, you
know, you see it nowadays,
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you know, a lot of people,
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you know, they
don't know who God is,
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they give this bad
picture of who God is.
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They think that He
is this mean dictator
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and stuff like that.
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I thought that for a
little bit of time too.
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He doesn't even exist. Yeah.
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And so they get there
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and not knowing the
true and living God is,
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what He's trying
to do in our lives
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and stuff like that, it's huge.
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You know, in
shaping a man and stuff.
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When you keep hearing it over
and over again, then it grows,
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especially if you're
not getting fed the truth.
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Yeah, definitely.
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Now you played
middle school basketball,
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high school basketball,
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what did you do after you
played high school basketball?
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Where did it
take you after that?
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I did get a
scholarship at the La Sierra.
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I played a year of ball there
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and then I ended
up leaving a year
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after that and finished
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my basketball career at
Kentucky State University.
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Okay.
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Now had the opportunity
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ever presented
itself for the NBA,
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how do you think you
would have reacted to that,
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especially not
being able to play
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or not desiring to
play on the Sabbath?
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Well, you know,
like I always say,
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you know, probably
I'd be in a contract
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that I won't be
playing on the Sabbath
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or anything like that.
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You know, the
opportunity would have came,
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I would have went for it
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but as long as they would
have been all alright with me
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not playing on the
Sabbath, but other than that,
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you know, I'm fine with
where I'm at now though.
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Okay, for young people today,
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who, you know,
they're tossed and turned
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by so many
different things out there.
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In your opinion,
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what do you think that
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they need to allow happen
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for them to get
focused on doing what's right?
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Because like I said,
your story is amazing,
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you know, you've
been reading the Bible
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since eight years
old, even younger,
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and into church things.
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You don't find
that. Let's be real.
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You don't find that
in this day and age.
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I can't name you
probably a single individual,
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single young person that I know
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that is really
honestly interested in church
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or interested in God.
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Most young people
are interested in money,
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girls, guys, whatever,
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playing sports,
nothing to do with God.
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You know,
anything apart from God
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because God is
seen as being "boring."
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But what do you
think in your opinion,
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based on your
situation growing up,
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would help young people
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to get more
focused in doing right,
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in making better
decisions in life?
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Just basically
helping the young people
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definitely groom
into their talent,
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their gift that the
Lord has blessed them with,
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you know, embracing
that and letting them know
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that they are
something to the church,
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that they do bring
something to the table,
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that God has so
much for them to do,
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you know, and
build a relationship,
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don't just be pushing church,
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you know, but push it
as a relationship building.
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Like this, you know,
when you're in a relationship,
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you know, in that,
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you want
somebody to care for you
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and love for you
and stuff like that,
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let them know
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that's how
Christ feels about you.
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You know what I'm saying?
He wants the best for you.
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He wants to give you the
best and He already knows,
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you know, what's best for you,
and just, you know, trust Him.
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Definitely, definitely.
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Do you have any friends,
as you were growing up, who,
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you know, they went
down the wrong path,
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you went down the right path
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who had they maybe stayed
on that right path with you
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would have been in a
better situation now?
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And I'm sure you
do because, you know,
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growing up in
Louisville, it is kind of,
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you know, rough in some
areas, but talk about that.
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Well, definitely.
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You know, I have
friends that made,
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you know,
decisions at a young age
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that I'm pretty sure they
probably regret of making.
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That if, you know,
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they had the
chance they'd probably,
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you know, turn back from that.
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You know, like I said,
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you know, I got
laughed at at times
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for not playing on the Sabbath,
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even going out
and stuff like that.
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But I knew that
the Lord's hand was,
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you know, it was on me
on that, and pretty sure,
00:19:19.69\00:19:22.32
looking back on it,
like I have friends,
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you know what I'm
saying, they'd tell me that,
00:19:23.73\00:19:25.06
you know, pray for them,
00:19:25.09\00:19:26.43
you know, reach out for
them, and stuff like that.
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I read them a Bible
verse or something like,
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they connect with them
00:19:29.26\00:19:30.60
because then they
know I got that connection.
00:19:30.63\00:19:32.60
But being
willing to channel light,
00:19:32.63\00:19:35.07
you know, let them
know that, you know,
00:19:35.10\00:19:36.84
"I'm not afraid to let
you know that I know Christ.
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You know what I'm
saying, I'm still here for you."
00:19:39.24\00:19:40.58
Okay, now getting laughed
at, how did that make you feel?
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Because, you know, a
lot of people, they...
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You said earlier
that you were the type
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that would stand out a lot.
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But for most of
us as young people,
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we kind of just blend in,
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you know, we blend in
00:19:53.82\00:19:55.16
with what
everybody else is doing.
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But you were
willing to take the ridicule
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of being laughed at,
00:19:58.79\00:20:00.63
joked on,
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probably being the
brunt of most people's jokes,
00:20:02.13\00:20:04.33
how did that make you feel?
00:20:04.37\00:20:05.70
I embraced it. Okay.
00:20:05.73\00:20:07.07
You know, like I
said, I was different,
00:20:07.10\00:20:08.70
you know, I was just willing.
00:20:08.74\00:20:10.07
And I know through the Bible,
you know, it takes sacrifices.
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You know,
reading about the people
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in the Bible and, you know,
00:20:14.74\00:20:16.08
even Christ, you
know what I'm saying,
00:20:16.11\00:20:17.45
sacrificing their
worldly lifestyle, man,
00:20:17.48\00:20:19.28
you know, you got to
know where you want to be,
00:20:19.31\00:20:21.92
who you're living for.
00:20:21.95\00:20:23.28
You know, I was
like, I always thought,
00:20:23.32\00:20:24.65
you know what I'm saying,
00:20:24.69\00:20:26.02
"Seek Him first and
all His righteousness
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and all these things
would be added unto you."
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Amen. And that
mindset was in me.
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And I was just like,
"Man, I'm seeking Him first,
00:20:31.53\00:20:33.09
you know,
regardless of what y'all say,
00:20:33.13\00:20:34.46
I'm not here to please y'all,
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I'm here to please Him."
00:20:35.86\00:20:37.20
So it wasn't like,
you know, I just took it,
00:20:37.23\00:20:39.67
you know, in their way.
00:20:39.70\00:20:42.07
I was just like,
"It don't matter.
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I'm not going
to follow the crowd
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because I know who I am."
00:20:44.84\00:20:46.17
Praise the
Lord, praise the Lord.
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Now you mentioned
00:20:47.58\00:20:48.91
about the
different Bible characters
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that you would read about,
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who are some of the ones
that really impacted your life?
00:20:52.85\00:20:56.05
Because, you know, oftentimes
when people read the Bible,
00:20:56.08\00:20:58.72
they read this book
00:20:58.75\00:21:00.09
that was written
thousands of years ago,
00:21:00.12\00:21:02.29
and sometimes when reading
it, it's hard to relate, okay.
00:21:02.32\00:21:05.19
This...
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What this person did
happened 3,000 years ago,
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and sometimes people
have a problem processing it
00:21:10.17\00:21:12.60
in saying, "How does it
relate to my situation today?"
00:21:12.63\00:21:16.67
So when looking at
some of these characters,
00:21:16.71\00:21:19.37
who did you kind of relate with?
00:21:19.41\00:21:22.44
I related with Joseph. Okay.
00:21:22.48\00:21:24.08
You know, he was
young, got picked on,
00:21:24.11\00:21:27.35
talked about stuff like that,
but they didn't let him waver.
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And he also had a relationship
with Christ at a young age,
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you know what I'm saying.
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Daniel, the three Hebrew boys,
I related to that, and Elijah.
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Okay, okay.
00:21:38.46\00:21:39.79
So those are some of the stories
00:21:39.83\00:21:41.16
that really stand
out with me, like,
00:21:41.20\00:21:42.53
you know, I really
want to take a stand.
00:21:42.56\00:21:43.90
Okay. Now
specifically why Elijah?
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I understand Joseph,
00:21:46.43\00:21:47.77
I understand Daniel
and the three Hebrew boys,
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but specifically why Elijah?
00:21:49.34\00:21:50.67
Well, I guess because,
00:21:50.71\00:21:52.04
you know, the
battle at Mount Carmel,
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the way he stood up for God.
00:21:54.14\00:21:55.58
Okay, so you like those stories
where they stand up for God?
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Yeah, yeah. Okay, keep going.
00:21:57.98\00:21:59.75
So that really stood out for me,
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like no matter what,
00:22:01.28\00:22:02.62
even though everybody
wanted to go that way,
00:22:02.65\00:22:04.65
you know, thinking
that God don't exists
00:22:04.69\00:22:06.39
and, you know,
they're following other Gods
00:22:06.42\00:22:07.76
or doing their own thing,
00:22:07.79\00:22:09.12
you know,
bringing in today's time.
00:22:09.16\00:22:10.89
You know,
everybody won't be about self
00:22:10.93\00:22:12.26
and stuff like that,
00:22:12.29\00:22:13.63
I want to honor my God,
no matter what it takes,
00:22:13.66\00:22:15.63
you know, y'all could
laugh and do whatever,
00:22:15.66\00:22:17.00
but I know He is real.
00:22:17.03\00:22:18.37
Praise the Lord.
00:22:18.40\00:22:19.73
Now your mother and your father,
00:22:19.77\00:22:21.10
they separated,
00:22:21.14\00:22:22.47
how is your connection
with your parents these days?
00:22:22.50\00:22:24.04
Oh, it's pretty good.
00:22:24.07\00:22:25.41
I still have a
relationship with my father
00:22:25.44\00:22:27.41
and, you know, my mom, we tight.
00:22:27.44\00:22:29.38
So it's nothing like
friction or anything like that,
00:22:29.41\00:22:32.91
but I definitely have connection
00:22:32.95\00:22:34.38
with both of my parents.
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Now you and your
brother are the only two
00:22:35.78\00:22:37.42
that are Seventh-day Adventist.
00:22:37.45\00:22:39.25
When you two finally
or you finally accepted
00:22:39.29\00:22:43.53
the Seventh-day
Adventist beliefs,
00:22:43.56\00:22:45.09
got baptized in a
Seventh-day Adventist church,
00:22:45.13\00:22:47.50
how did your
parents react to it?
00:22:47.53\00:22:48.96
Because I've heard stories...
00:22:49.00\00:22:50.37
Like I said, I grew
up Seventh-day Adventist,
00:22:50.40\00:22:52.13
so I never had to go
from Baptist or Methodist
00:22:52.17\00:22:55.10
to Seventh-day Adventism,
00:22:55.14\00:22:57.81
but how did people
react in your family
00:22:57.84\00:23:00.54
since nobody else is
Seventh-day Adventist,
00:23:00.58\00:23:02.14
how did they react to you
00:23:02.18\00:23:04.41
when you decided to
take a stand and you say,
00:23:04.45\00:23:06.35
"You know what,
00:23:06.38\00:23:07.72
I'm going to be a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian.
00:23:07.75\00:23:09.08
I'm going to go to this church
00:23:09.12\00:23:10.45
that goes to church on Saturday,
00:23:10.49\00:23:12.35
totally different
00:23:12.39\00:23:13.72
than what I was
raised up to do"?
00:23:13.76\00:23:15.32
How did your
family react to that?
00:23:15.36\00:23:17.26
In the beginning, it was tough.
00:23:17.29\00:23:18.83
You know, definitely
tough 'cause this is new,
00:23:18.86\00:23:20.60
you know, grew
up going to church
00:23:20.63\00:23:21.96
on Sundays and stuff,
that's all you're taught.
00:23:22.00\00:23:23.90
And it was definitely
tough for me at a young age.
00:23:23.93\00:23:26.57
I'm like, man, you
know, who do I listen to?
00:23:26.60\00:23:28.84
It's my mother,
00:23:28.87\00:23:30.21
you know, my
parents and my family
00:23:30.24\00:23:31.57
that I love Mom,
like, I'm dishonoring,
00:23:31.61\00:23:33.61
but at the same
time, this is God.
00:23:33.64\00:23:35.24
Well, you know,
my mom, like I said,
00:23:35.28\00:23:37.31
told me to follow
Christ and be about Him."
00:23:37.35\00:23:39.81
Christ kept the Sabbath,
00:23:39.85\00:23:41.18
you know, Christ did
this, Christ did that,
00:23:41.22\00:23:43.45
I got to stand for Him.
00:23:43.49\00:23:44.89
So, you know, it was just like,
you know, for Christ I live,
00:23:44.92\00:23:46.62
for Christ I die.
00:23:46.65\00:23:47.99
I got to roll with it.
00:23:48.02\00:23:49.36
You know, if it meant,
00:23:49.39\00:23:50.73
you know, being
different from my family,
00:23:50.76\00:23:53.50
it just had to be.
00:23:53.53\00:23:54.86
But over time,
00:23:54.90\00:23:56.23
you know, they start
seeing things and stuff,
00:23:56.26\00:23:58.30
you know, the change
00:23:58.33\00:23:59.67
that the Lord was
making in my life,
00:23:59.70\00:24:01.04
you know, and it was powerful.
00:24:01.07\00:24:02.40
I mean you can do nothing about
00:24:02.44\00:24:04.31
that when the Lord
is moving in your life,
00:24:04.34\00:24:05.67
and they started,
00:24:05.71\00:24:07.04
you know, coming
around and stuff like that,
00:24:07.08\00:24:08.41
so it's been a blessing.
00:24:08.44\00:24:09.78
How much of a
witness do you think
00:24:09.81\00:24:11.31
your life has been?
00:24:11.35\00:24:12.68
Because not only
have you had to stand up
00:24:12.71\00:24:14.45
to your peers,
00:24:14.48\00:24:15.85
you know, your basketball team,
00:24:15.88\00:24:17.22
your friends who didn't
quite always understand,
00:24:17.25\00:24:20.19
you know, what you were doing,
the decisions you were making,
00:24:20.22\00:24:22.82
but you had to stand up
to teachers, coaches, family,
00:24:22.86\00:24:26.70
I mean pretty
much your whole life
00:24:26.73\00:24:29.30
has been about
standing up to people
00:24:29.33\00:24:31.77
and sharing your faith.
00:24:31.80\00:24:33.17
How much of a
blessing do you think
00:24:33.20\00:24:34.80
your witness has
been upon others?
00:24:34.84\00:24:37.71
Man, I guess it's one of
those that you won't know,
00:24:37.74\00:24:40.74
you know, till Christ comes back
00:24:40.78\00:24:42.34
and you see that, you know.
00:24:42.38\00:24:43.95
But I have had,
00:24:43.98\00:24:45.48
you know,
people come to me, man,
00:24:45.51\00:24:47.28
and be like,
"Man, that was tough
00:24:47.32\00:24:48.88
what you did, man,
00:24:48.92\00:24:50.25
the way that you
stand up for your faith
00:24:50.29\00:24:51.62
and stuff like that."
00:24:51.65\00:24:52.99
So it's pretty cool, you know,
to have people to be able to,
00:24:53.02\00:24:54.96
you know, pray with them
or talk to them about the Lord
00:24:54.99\00:24:56.59
and stuff like that.
00:24:56.62\00:24:57.96
That's been one of the
biggest things of that.
00:24:57.99\00:24:59.86
But, you know, I
guess I never really,
00:24:59.89\00:25:01.90
you know, felt like,
00:25:01.93\00:25:03.26
you know, people would
come to me and be like,
00:25:03.30\00:25:04.63
"Wow, man, that has
been a major impact."
00:25:04.67\00:25:06.00
But I won't know
until He comes back.
00:25:06.03\00:25:07.37
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
00:25:07.40\00:25:08.74
Now you had a strong mother
00:25:08.77\00:25:10.11
who, you know, taught
you to follow the Lord
00:25:10.14\00:25:13.41
and you used basketball.
00:25:13.44\00:25:15.88
Now there are some
young people out there
00:25:15.91\00:25:17.58
that don't play sports,
00:25:17.61\00:25:20.15
they don't have a
positive influence
00:25:20.18\00:25:21.52
in their life,
00:25:21.55\00:25:22.88
everything
around them is negative.
00:25:22.92\00:25:24.62
How can that individual
be a Joseph, be a Daniel,
00:25:24.65\00:25:29.66
be an Elijah in that situation?
00:25:29.69\00:25:32.66
In your opinion,
what do you think?
00:25:32.69\00:25:34.76
Know Christ for yourself. Okay.
00:25:34.80\00:25:36.36
You know,
regardless of what they say,
00:25:36.40\00:25:38.97
you know, go
know Him for yourself.
00:25:39.00\00:25:40.90
Don't let nobody
else, you know, tell you.
00:25:40.94\00:25:43.04
You got to go
experience it for yourself.
00:25:43.07\00:25:44.87
And age, it doesn't
matter how old you are.
00:25:44.91\00:25:47.38
Don't let when
you get older think
00:25:47.41\00:25:49.24
that this is when
you're supposed to know Christ,
00:25:49.28\00:25:50.61
know Christ now.
00:25:50.65\00:25:51.98
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
00:25:52.01\00:25:53.35
Now was there a plan for you
00:25:53.38\00:25:54.98
when you started
to read the Bible,
00:25:55.02\00:25:56.48
how you would read it?
00:25:56.52\00:25:57.85
Because I know for myself
00:25:57.89\00:25:59.22
what I would do is when
I began to change my life,
00:25:59.25\00:26:01.16
I was committed to two
things, actually three things.
00:26:01.19\00:26:03.73
I was committed
to praying every day,
00:26:03.76\00:26:05.39
I was committed to
reading one chapter
00:26:05.43\00:26:06.80
out of the Bible each day,
00:26:06.83\00:26:08.16
and I was committed
to reading one chapter
00:26:08.20\00:26:09.53
out of Patriarchs and
Prophets every single day,
00:26:09.56\00:26:11.40
no matter what I did.
00:26:11.43\00:26:12.77
You know, I
would even find myself
00:26:12.80\00:26:14.14
later on that day getting high,
00:26:14.17\00:26:15.50
doing something I
had no business doing,
00:26:15.54\00:26:17.01
but I was committed to that.
00:26:17.04\00:26:18.61
And as I continued to
do that every single day,
00:26:18.64\00:26:20.91
I started to see the
different habits just stop.
00:26:20.94\00:26:24.15
What kind of plan
did you have yourself on
00:26:24.18\00:26:27.22
in terms of reading
the Bible every day?
00:26:27.25\00:26:28.88
Well, just basically,
00:26:28.92\00:26:30.25
like I carry my
Bible study packet with me.
00:26:30.29\00:26:33.52
So it's just like...
00:26:33.56\00:26:34.89
That's so hard
to believe. I know.
00:26:34.92\00:26:36.89
Because I would write too,
00:26:36.93\00:26:38.26
I used to write
rhyme stuff like that,
00:26:38.29\00:26:39.76
so I would write
00:26:39.79\00:26:41.46
and then read
and stuff like that,
00:26:41.50\00:26:42.83
so I would carry it with me
so I would have those with me,
00:26:42.86\00:26:45.13
you know, to go over.
00:26:45.17\00:26:46.50
And then if I wanted to
touch on different stuff,
00:26:46.53\00:26:47.87
I tried to research it in church
00:26:47.90\00:26:49.30
or something like that.
00:26:49.34\00:26:50.67
So you might just be
sitting somewhere one day,
00:26:50.71\00:26:52.04
sitting around your friends,
00:26:52.07\00:26:53.41
you just pull out
a Bible study lesson,
00:26:53.44\00:26:54.78
pull out a Bible and
start working on a Bible,
00:26:54.81\00:26:56.14
right? Yes.
00:26:56.18\00:26:57.51
Wow! That's amazing.
00:26:57.55\00:26:58.88
What I want you to do,
00:26:58.91\00:27:00.25
I want you to
take about 30 seconds
00:27:00.28\00:27:01.62
and I want you to
look into the camera,
00:27:01.65\00:27:02.98
and I want you to talk
to that young individual
00:27:03.02\00:27:05.09
who maybe they
want to be a Daniel,
00:27:05.12\00:27:07.09
they want to be a Joseph,
they want to be an Elijah,
00:27:07.12\00:27:09.69
they want to be
a Jermaine Bentley,
00:27:09.72\00:27:11.43
but they don't have the
things around them to do that.
00:27:11.46\00:27:14.53
They don't have
that positive influence,
00:27:14.56\00:27:17.73
they may not even have
00:27:17.77\00:27:19.10
that strong
determination to read the Bible,
00:27:19.13\00:27:21.24
but they want to
just a small amount,
00:27:21.27\00:27:23.64
speak to that young person
00:27:23.67\00:27:25.01
and give them some
words of encouragement.
00:27:25.04\00:27:26.68
You know, folks,
00:27:26.71\00:27:28.04
just know that you
are different in Christ,
00:27:28.08\00:27:30.05
you know, you're only
different only in Him,
00:27:30.08\00:27:32.58
so let Him guide you
00:27:32.61\00:27:33.95
and don't be afraid to stand out
00:27:33.98\00:27:35.52
and know Christ for yourself.
00:27:35.55\00:27:37.39
All right.
00:27:37.42\00:27:39.12
Well, Jermaine,
00:27:39.15\00:27:40.49
I want to thank you
for being on the program.
00:27:40.52\00:27:41.99
Like I said, it's a
very powerful testimony.
00:27:42.02\00:27:44.09
I don't meet people
like you on a regular basis
00:27:44.13\00:27:47.46
who had a determination to want
to serve God at a young age.
00:27:47.50\00:27:52.27
So I definitely appreciate
you being on the program,
00:27:52.30\00:27:54.80
I know that your testimony
will touch many people's lives,
00:27:54.84\00:27:58.27
just all of the
blessings to you, okay?
00:27:58.31\00:27:59.64
All right.
Appreciate it, Jermaine.
00:27:59.67\00:28:01.01
Thank you.
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Viewers, we'd like to thank
you for tuning in once again
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for another exciting
program of The New Journey.
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Be sure to tune in next
time. Until then, God bless.
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