The following program
discusses sensitive issues.
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Parents are
cautioned that some material
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may be too candid
for younger children.
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Welcome to The New Journey.
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A program where
you'll meet real life people,
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with real life testimonies,
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doing real life
ministry for Jesus Christ.
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I'm your host, Aaron Chancy.
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Come join us on The New Journey.
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Welcome back to the program.
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Today, we have
an exciting program
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with a young man by the
name of Terrence Marshall.
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Terrence, we like to thank
you for being on the program.
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Thank you, Aaron.
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All right, just for
some general information,
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Terrence, if you could
tell us where you're from,
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where you were born and
raised, and how old you are?
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Well, originally, I
was born in a little place,
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it's an island called Bermuda.
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Okay.
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Lot of people would talk about
the Bermuda Triangle, you know,
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and stuff like that.
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I mean, we've
been there on planes,
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on and off, and everything.
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And they just, they take that,
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and blow it out to proportion
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because they were
told not to go out
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when they went,
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like the weather and everything,
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it was having bad
weather and they would go out
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when they were told not to.
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And so it blew up
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into a big huge
triangle thing, you know.
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Yeah, definitely, definitely.
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And so I was born
there and I spent,
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till I was five years old...
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Okay. In Bermuda.
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And then we moved
here to the States
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which is where my mom
lived, which was in Missouri.
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My mom met my dad in Bermuda.
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She was in navy, she
was air traffic controller.
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So they met through the church
in Bermuda and got married.
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And she moved to her mom
and dad's place in Missouri.
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Okay, okay. So then
we spent the rest of...
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Until like 2004, and
then we moved up here to 3ABN.
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Okay, okay.
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So talk about your
early life for me a little bit
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because what's interesting,
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this is a program
where we share testimonies.
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And one of the most
interesting things is that
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you're only 19 years old. Yeah.
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And I find that,
you know, very good,
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that now you're
serving the Lord,
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because at 19,
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I was headed to the penitentiary
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when 19 years old.
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So talk about your
early life a little bit,
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and how it was
for you growing up.
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Well, early life for me,
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I was, you know, my
mom was always wanting
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to bring us up in a
Christian environment,
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you know, she
wanted to bring us up
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where there was
no worldly nothing.
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So when I had the
opportunity to go to school,
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she wanted to try to find
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the best
education school for me.
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So the first school
that I actually went to
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was a Mennonite School.
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And I don't know,
some people don't know
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about the Mennonite and Amish.
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Mennonites, they're more strict.
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They're less strict than Amish,
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but they're also
strict, they only...
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They wear long
dresses, pleated shirts,
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and black pants.
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And they drive black vehicles,
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and they have their own
certain type of religion.
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Yeah, yeah...
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And so they were more Christian,
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more Christian
fellowship and everything.
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So I went to
the Mennonite school
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until I was in
first grade. Okay.
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And then they found out that
we had internet in our house,
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and they call
internet, the devil.
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Wow!
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So they said that we
cannot come back the next year.
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So then I went
back to home schooling
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and my mom home schooled me
through third and fourth grade,
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then I moved up here.
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And then, fifth and sixth,
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I went over here to
the Christian school
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here at 3ABN.
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And I don't know, it just...
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I wasn't used to school,
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so a lot of people
kept, you know, picking on me
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and stuff like
this, and I was just like,
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"Man, I'm fed up," you know,
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I'm fed up with what
they're picking on me
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for different issues, you know,
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because I didn't fit in,
because a lot of my issue was,
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I was raised up
around elderly parents.
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My parents were
like 50s, 60s, you know,
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so they're almost
like grand parents to me...
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Yeah, definitely.
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Instead of being
actual young parents
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that could play
and stuff like that.
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So I ended up
maturing at a younger age,
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working and stuff like that
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around the house and everything.
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So after I got out
of Christian school,
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I went back to home
school for another year.
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And then I went
to the Public school
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up here in Thompsonville.
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And the Public school,
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you know, you get
every aspect there.
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And the biggest thing
with Pubic school was is,
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you know, as being raised
as much as a sheltered life,
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you know, you
get to Public school
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and they're like, "Hey,
have you seen that movie?"
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You know, and I'm like...
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What movie? "What
are you talking about?"
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You know, the
only movies I watched
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was like Moses, Abraham...
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Bible story. You
know, Bible story movies.
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And I'm like, "What
are you talking about?"
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And they were like,
"Well, you never watched that
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when you were a kid?"
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And I was like, "No."
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And then one of my
teachers was like, you know,
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"What about the nursery rhymes?"
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I was like, "What's that?"
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You know, I
never was taught that,
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because my mom
want to raise me up
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at a matured
level of Christianity,
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knowing right
from wrong, you know,
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and she really never taught
us that side of the story,
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you know, movies and
how they affect your brain,
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you know, and stuff like that,
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because we always
watched Christian movies.
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Yeah, definitely.
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So with kids, when you
transferred to Public school,
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when kids were coming
to you about the movies
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and different things like that,
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how did that make you
feel as a young person
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when they were picking on you
and different things like that?
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Well, it tore me up, you
know, because then I was like,
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"Well, hey, I gotta get in
the realm of watching movies,
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the newest movies out."
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You know, because then they
were into newest movies out,
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you know, you just...
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"Hey, we just
went to the movie."
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And that's another thing
my mother always told us.
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Ellen G. White said that
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you ain't supposed to
go to the movie theatres.
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Then they'd all be going
out to the movie theatres,
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watching the
new, latest movie out.
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And I'm like,
"So, what is this?"
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You know. Okay.
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And so I was kind of not
in the right environment,
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you know, you could tell,
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but then I had
to speed up my life
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and say, "Hey, you know, I need
to start watching the movies.
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And I need to
start..." You know.
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So basically trying to blend in
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with everybody
else 'cause you...
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Yeah, with everybody else, yes.
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It's almost like you
stood out like a sore thumb.
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Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.
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And I didn't wanna do
that, you know, and that was...
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Let me ask you a question.
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Why did you not wanna
stick out like a sore thumb?
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I know a lot of
times for younger people,
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it's hard to do that
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because we wanna be
part of the "in crowd."
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Why do you think that
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you didn't wanna
stand out versus,
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you know, and getting
involved in that, mixed?
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Well, I didn't wanna stand out
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because, you know, it was
kind of like my first year
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going to Public
school and I kind of went...
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Like I said, you
said, "You wanna fit in
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with what other
people were doing."
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You know.
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And then, they
already, you know,
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once you say that
you're a Seventh-day Adventist,
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then they all link
us with 3ABN already.
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Yeah, okay, yeah, 'cause
it's prevalent in this area.
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So, because it's
prevalent in this area.
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So then you're like, so
you already got the bash
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from both ends,
you know, around here
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and so you're kind of
like, "Where do you stand?"
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And you can't really stand
because you don't wanna stand,
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because then
they're looking at you
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and like, "Well,
why this and why that?"
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You know. Okay.
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And always asking you
questions and stuff like that.
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But, so that was the
way it was in Public school.
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And then, and I
got into freshman year.
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One of the seniors said,
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"Hey, man, you
wanna try some chew?"
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You know, chewing tobacco.
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"It ain't no big deal.
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It's gonna make
you mature more."
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And so I was like,
"Okay, no problem."
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So I put in a dip and
almost fainted right there
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and almost started
throwing up right there,
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but, you know, that's
what the cool kids do,
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so you wanna do it, you know.
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How much of an
impact do you think
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peer pressure
played upon your life?
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Because I've
had some people say,
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"Well, I wasn't
impacted by peer pressure
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and different
things like that" which,
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you know, here and/or
there, whether it's true or not,
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I think that what's around us
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definitely plays a
part into what we do.
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So how much in
your life do you think
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peer pressure played ac part
in what you got involved in?
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Well, I believe peer
pressure plays a big part
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in going to high school,
you know, and stuff like that,
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and being just out
in the world, you know,
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you get an aspect of
being out in the world
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when you're in Public school,
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you know, you got
the downer people,
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more down lower on the scale
that didn't really have much,
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you know, as they were
growing up and stuff like that.
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Then you have the
higher class people,
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you know, and stuff like that.
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And so the downers wanna get
more of the higher up people,
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you know, and
you got the contrast
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and you just gotta
find your own little space
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to pop in, you know.
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You gotta find
yourself in there.
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And find yourself in it
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and get your
right mix, you know.
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Definitely, definitely.
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Do you think that
you would have been,
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would have done better had
you stayed in private school
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versus going to Public school
or how do you feel about that?
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Well, I really think
that going to Public school,
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you know, it's
kind of hard to find out
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what the right age is, you know,
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because Public
school really shows you
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what's out there, you know.
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And it's gonna show you
like what you have to deal with
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if you wanna go and minister
to people out there, you know.
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It's gonna show
you how the world is,
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and how corrupt it is,
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and how people you know
are always just showing off
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every part of
their body, you know,
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and stuff like that, you know.
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It's gonna show you how much
temptation there is out there.
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Yeah, definitely.
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And so that's why I think
it actually was good in a way,
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but I wish I would have stuck
toward to what I believed in...
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Yeah, the Biblical principles.
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You know, the
Biblical principles
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that I was brought up with.
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Okay, now you've
mentioned a little bit ago
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how you in the ninth
grade, freshman year I believe,
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where you were
introduced to chewing tobacco.
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After that chewing tobacco,
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what else did
you get involved in?
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After the chewing
tobacco, then sophomore year,
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around sophomore year,
then I was at a baseball game,
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couple of my buds, Tay and Jake,
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they were like,
"So let's go behind,"
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there was the
baseball diamonds kind of here
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and then you
could go around a field,
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and then down into the trees,
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and they were like,
"Hey, let's go down there
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and smoke some cigs."
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So I was like,
"Okay, no problem.
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I wanna try it out."
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You know, I wanna be cool.
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Okay, so this was your
first time, smoking cigarette.
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It's first time
smoking cigs, yeah.
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And so I'm like,
"Okay, so let' go down there."
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And so I almost
gagged my lungs out,
00:11:13.07\00:11:16.04
you know, because
I'm not used to it.
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And so, then I was like,
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"Man, I don't really
wanna deal with that," you know.
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But then after all
that, you know, spin,
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then it was into my junior year,
00:11:26.61\00:11:30.09
I had to get some
tools for one of my buds
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that was the one that
started me chewing tobacco
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in freshman year.
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He'd already graduated
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and he needed some
tools to fix his vehicle.
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So I was like, "Hey, okay."
00:11:44.87\00:11:46.57
So I'll go home
and get my tools out,
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I didn't live that far away.
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So I went home,
and got my tools,
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and brought them to him,
and let him fix his vehicle.
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He's like, "Hey, man.
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I got some K2,
you wanna smoke it?"
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Okay, okay. I'm like, "Okay."
00:11:57.55\00:11:59.81
So I was like, "Okay,
this can't be that bad,
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you know, it wasn't bad
before, you know, so..."
00:12:02.45\00:12:05.62
Now for those that
don't know what K2 is,
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can you explain
what K2 actually is?
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Well, K2 is
called synthetic drug.
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It's made
differently than real marijuana,
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but it gives you the same
high as real marijuana does.
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And then you have another aspect
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which was potpourri.
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Potpourri was incense like
you would put in your house,
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you could put that into a
pipe, and you could smoke it,
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and you could get high off.
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It's a whole
different high though.
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Okay, how did you
learn about the potpourri?
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How did that come about?
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Because I've never
heard anybody ever in my life,
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and I noticed a
lot of different things
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that people can get high off.
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But how did you learn about,
00:12:45.93\00:12:47.33
that you can get
high off a potpourri?
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Well, the guy
that was doing the K2,
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and we did the K2,
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then he was like, "Hey,
man, you can get this stuff
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at a smoke shop."
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And I was like, "Okay."
00:13:02.31\00:13:03.65
So it was only like 3
grams for like 40-45 bucks.
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So that's easy change, you know.
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And it would get
you high as K2 would.
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And so, then he was like,
00:13:12.25\00:13:13.72
"Yeah, man, it's
called potpourri."
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And I was like, "Okay."
00:13:15.22\00:13:16.69
So then he let me into
00:13:16.73\00:13:18.39
what it was
called and everything.
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And then after that, I
tried to stay off of it
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as much as I could,
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because I knew that this stuff
was not good for us, you know.
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I knew K2 was bad because I
had heard all the statistics,
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you know, K2 is
terrible for your brain cells
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and all this stuff.
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So then I was like,
00:13:35.68\00:13:37.01
"Well, I need to get to
the real stuff, you know,
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so that I need to
start smoking marijuana."
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Okay...
00:13:40.95\00:13:42.28
So after I got done with
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the night out there at the lake,
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helping him with his
tires and everything,
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then I, I, at the time,
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had a
girlfriend that smoked too,
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smoked
marijuana, real stuff, weed.
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And so, then it just
passed all in, you know,
00:14:00.40\00:14:03.51
and so then I was
buying because I had a job.
00:14:03.54\00:14:07.11
And she was smoking
and we were smoking.
00:14:07.14\00:14:09.94
We were both getting high
00:14:09.98\00:14:11.31
and we were having a
beautiful life, you know.
00:14:11.35\00:14:14.02
And then like I said,
00:14:14.05\00:14:15.85
being peer pressured
into sex and everything,
00:14:15.88\00:14:18.35
it was sex everyday,
twice a day sometimes.
00:14:18.39\00:14:21.52
Wow!
00:14:21.56\00:14:22.89
You know, and this went
on for a nine-month period.
00:14:22.92\00:14:24.99
And then finally, I was like,
00:14:25.03\00:14:26.70
"Man, this is not the
lifestyle that I need to live.
00:14:26.73\00:14:29.03
I'm fed up with it."
00:14:29.06\00:14:30.40
Okay, now before
you get to there,
00:14:30.43\00:14:32.37
I wanna hit on a
couple of points.
00:14:32.40\00:14:34.84
One, you mentioned
about the sex everyday.
00:14:34.87\00:14:38.67
And the reason I'm saying this,
00:14:38.71\00:14:40.04
because I think a
lot of young people
00:14:40.08\00:14:41.41
are peer pressured into sex.
00:14:41.44\00:14:42.78
I remember when I was younger,
around 14 years old or so,
00:14:42.81\00:14:46.41
and I used to
have one of my friends
00:14:46.45\00:14:48.98
that used to joke on me
because I wasn't having sex yet.
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And it's interesting
00:14:51.89\00:14:53.66
how this thing
played itself out.
00:14:53.69\00:14:55.42
So because of
that peer pressure,
00:14:55.46\00:14:57.76
I thought, "Okay, well,
this is what a young kid
00:14:57.79\00:15:00.26
is supposed to do,
he's supposed to have sex."
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You know, at that time, I was
just having fun being outside,
00:15:02.26\00:15:04.23
playing basketball, you know,
different things like that.
00:15:04.27\00:15:06.84
And, you know, I wasn't
really concerned with sex
00:15:06.87\00:15:10.11
as much it might
have been before 14,
00:15:10.14\00:15:11.84
maybe around 13,
12, something like that.
00:15:11.87\00:15:14.01
But anyhow, I
started having sex.
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And then years
later, when we got older,
00:15:17.41\00:15:21.15
I moved back to where I was
00:15:21.18\00:15:22.85
and he told me, "You know what?"
00:15:22.88\00:15:24.35
He said, "I wasn't even
having sex back then either."
00:15:24.39\00:15:27.16
And it wasn't
until, I was like 18, 19,
00:15:27.19\00:15:29.69
till almost out of
high school that I had sex.
00:15:29.72\00:15:31.99
And I found it
very interesting how,
00:15:32.03\00:15:34.43
"Hold on, you're
clowning me for something
00:15:34.46\00:15:36.67
and you weren't
doing it either."
00:15:36.70\00:15:38.33
And it's interesting
how peer pressure works.
00:15:38.37\00:15:40.37
Yeah. What do
you think about that?
00:15:40.40\00:15:41.84
It is very true.
00:15:41.87\00:15:44.57
A lot other people, they
like would talk to me about it
00:15:44.61\00:15:48.24
and stuff, they
weren't even at that point yet
00:15:48.28\00:15:52.05
in their life
too, like you said.
00:15:52.08\00:15:54.12
So it was kind of weird,
but anyhow, like I was saying,
00:15:54.15\00:15:58.55
you know, it's
what peer pressure
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does to you, you know.
00:16:00.72\00:16:02.32
And another thing
is you can go back,
00:16:02.36\00:16:04.76
like when I was around
five and seven and stuff,
00:16:04.79\00:16:08.36
my older sister
watched porn, you know,
00:16:08.40\00:16:12.20
so I'd already gotten to
see, you know, everything,
00:16:12.23\00:16:15.67
and I knew, you know,
like all the different aspects
00:16:15.70\00:16:18.47
and that's another
thing finding all out,
00:16:18.51\00:16:20.38
all of the different aspects
and everything of it, you know.
00:16:20.41\00:16:24.31
And so, then that was
00:16:24.35\00:16:25.68
a learning
process too, you know.
00:16:25.71\00:16:27.12
Okay, now you mentioned about
00:16:27.15\00:16:28.92
the first time that
you smoked cigarettes.
00:16:28.95\00:16:30.79
And we're gonna
eventually get into,
00:16:30.82\00:16:32.42
you know, when you got fed up,
00:16:32.45\00:16:33.79
but there's a few key
things that I wanna hit on.
00:16:33.82\00:16:36.02
When you mentioned about,
when you smoked cigarettes,
00:16:36.06\00:16:38.66
you gagged and you were sick.
00:16:38.69\00:16:40.90
And the thing that
stands out to me is
00:16:40.93\00:16:42.53
because I remember the
first time where I smoked,
00:16:42.56\00:16:45.13
I was about 15 years
old, smoke, drinking,
00:16:45.17\00:16:47.47
I was at a house party.
00:16:47.50\00:16:48.84
Snuck out of the
house, went to this party,
00:16:48.87\00:16:50.47
actually me and my
brother, and we went there,
00:16:50.51\00:16:53.88
and, you know, I got so drunk
00:16:53.91\00:16:55.91
and the next
morning, I had a hang over,
00:16:55.94\00:16:58.48
but I knew at that moment,
00:16:58.51\00:16:59.85
even though I got
sick, that I was hooked.
00:16:59.88\00:17:02.08
It was something
about it that hooked me.
00:17:02.12\00:17:04.52
And the reason
I'm bringing this up
00:17:04.55\00:17:06.15
is because even though you
gagged from the cigarettes,
00:17:06.19\00:17:08.49
you still
progressed into other things.
00:17:08.52\00:17:10.93
Why do you think
00:17:10.96\00:17:12.29
that you
progressed into other things
00:17:12.33\00:17:14.10
as the potpourri,
the K2, the marijuana,
00:17:14.13\00:17:16.83
when just from the
cigarettes, it was kind of like,
00:17:16.87\00:17:19.43
you know, it was like
your body was rejecting it?
00:17:19.47\00:17:21.50
Why do you think
you got into that?
00:17:21.54\00:17:23.57
Well, I got into it like I said,
00:17:23.61\00:17:25.51
because of the girl
that I was with at that time,
00:17:25.54\00:17:29.21
you know, she smoked, all right?
00:17:29.24\00:17:31.78
So I had to buy the
tobacco to roll the tubes,
00:17:31.81\00:17:35.12
to roll the cigarettes.
00:17:35.15\00:17:36.85
So since she smoked,
00:17:36.89\00:17:38.29
I wanted to get my money's worth
00:17:38.32\00:17:40.06
out of what I was
buying, all right?
00:17:40.09\00:17:42.52
The same way with the weed.
00:17:42.56\00:17:43.89
I wanted to get my money's
worth out of what I bought.
00:17:43.93\00:17:47.00
You know, so I
needed to smoke along with,
00:17:47.03\00:17:49.10
that was mostly all my thing.
00:17:49.13\00:17:50.67
It was money management.
00:17:50.70\00:17:52.03
I want the money, you
know, manage my money.
00:17:52.07\00:17:54.70
And if I was buying it,
I need to partake of it,
00:17:54.74\00:17:57.17
you know, and the
same way with buying,
00:17:57.21\00:17:59.91
chewing tobacco
and stuff like that.
00:17:59.94\00:18:01.61
Okay.
00:18:01.64\00:18:02.98
So that was the
big thing, you know.
00:18:03.01\00:18:04.81
And then like I said, finally,
00:18:04.85\00:18:06.75
I was like, "Man,
I don't need this.
00:18:06.78\00:18:08.65
I need to get rid of it."
00:18:08.68\00:18:10.02
You know, and stuff like that.
00:18:10.05\00:18:11.95
And then, you
know, after a little bit,
00:18:11.99\00:18:15.06
like the weed
didn't start first,
00:18:15.09\00:18:16.96
alcohol drinking started first.
00:18:16.99\00:18:19.39
And then...
00:18:19.43\00:18:20.76
Now was it more of
just social drinking
00:18:20.80\00:18:22.13
or was it like
everyday drinking?
00:18:22.16\00:18:23.50
It was more of
social drinking, yeah,
00:18:23.53\00:18:25.47
if we'd have
bonfire or something,
00:18:25.50\00:18:27.44
we'd have few beers,
you know, stuff like that.
00:18:27.47\00:18:30.91
And then it would progress onto,
00:18:30.94\00:18:33.48
you know, birthday
parties and stuff like that.
00:18:33.51\00:18:36.48
And we'd have hideouts
00:18:36.51\00:18:38.18
in different places
and stuff like that.
00:18:38.21\00:18:40.75
And then sometimes,
00:18:40.78\00:18:42.12
if we'd go four-wheeler
riding or something,
00:18:42.15\00:18:44.22
we'd have beer coolers
and stuff like that, you know.
00:18:44.25\00:18:48.66
The older people would
00:18:48.69\00:18:50.03
and they'd be
like, "You want a beer?"
00:18:50.06\00:18:51.56
And so, if you'd say, no,
00:18:51.59\00:18:53.36
then they'd be like,
"Well, so, what's your problem?"
00:18:53.40\00:18:55.13
Yeah, you know, it's
like, you got a problem
00:18:55.16\00:18:56.67
and you don't
wanna partake in it.
00:18:56.70\00:18:58.03
It's just
interesting how the world is,
00:18:58.07\00:19:00.60
where if you're not
doing something that's wrong,
00:19:00.64\00:19:02.80
it's almost like
there's something with you.
00:19:02.84\00:19:04.44
Wrong with you, yeah.
00:19:04.47\00:19:05.81
You know, and
it's not necessarily
00:19:05.84\00:19:07.18
anything wrong with me.
00:19:07.21\00:19:08.54
It's, "I don't wanna do it,"
00:19:08.58\00:19:09.91
but it's like the world
pressures you into it so much
00:19:09.94\00:19:11.45
and at a young age,
it's almost hard to deny it.
00:19:11.48\00:19:14.05
Yeah. Well, go ahead.
00:19:14.08\00:19:15.42
Yeah, so anyhow, I decided that,
00:19:15.45\00:19:18.12
"Hey, I need to
get some things right,
00:19:18.15\00:19:20.42
you know, I need to get,
00:19:20.46\00:19:21.89
I need to get rid of this girl."
00:19:21.92\00:19:23.86
You know, and so, me,
00:19:23.89\00:19:26.09
I've always been a
generous person, you know.
00:19:26.13\00:19:29.06
I've always helped
people out as much as I could,
00:19:29.10\00:19:31.93
that's what I was
taught by the religious views,
00:19:31.97\00:19:34.50
you know, help out
as much as you can.
00:19:34.54\00:19:36.64
Definitely...
00:19:36.67\00:19:38.01
And that's the same
way, that's why so much,
00:19:38.04\00:19:40.34
a lot of the drug
users would be around me
00:19:40.38\00:19:42.64
because they'd be like,
"Hey, man, I'm so high, man.
00:19:42.68\00:19:45.21
I need a ride, man."
00:19:45.25\00:19:46.58
You know. "Come pick me up.
00:19:46.61\00:19:48.18
I need to go somewhere."
00:19:48.22\00:19:49.55
You know, or, "I
need to go and get some."
00:19:49.58\00:19:51.89
You know, and then they
would be like, you know...
00:19:51.92\00:19:54.36
And then all of a sudden,
00:19:54.39\00:19:56.42
I started,
someone had to let it out.
00:19:56.46\00:19:58.73
I started getting
stopped all the time,
00:19:58.76\00:20:00.53
you know, by cops.
00:20:00.56\00:20:02.06
I'm like, "Dude, man, we can't
keep no more weed in this car,
00:20:02.10\00:20:05.53
you know, because I'm
getting stopped all the time."
00:20:05.57\00:20:08.27
I've been stopped
by sheriffs five times,
00:20:08.30\00:20:12.54
and they've searched my car
every time I had been stopped.
00:20:12.57\00:20:14.94
Yeah, wow!
00:20:14.98\00:20:16.31
You know, so I was like, "Man,
I don't wanna go to prison."
00:20:16.34\00:20:18.38
You know, and I'm
starting to sketch out.
00:20:18.41\00:20:21.15
So, I said, "No
more drugs in my car."
00:20:21.18\00:20:25.29
You know, and then
they started to lax off
00:20:25.32\00:20:27.66
and then it
started to come again.
00:20:27.69\00:20:29.19
So then I was like,
"Man, I need to separate."
00:20:29.22\00:20:31.96
And kind of, you know,
00:20:31.99\00:20:33.40
and then one of
my friends, Matt Ree,
00:20:33.43\00:20:36.80
he was like, "Yeah, man,
00:20:36.83\00:20:38.37
all they're using you
for is the rides and stuff."
00:20:38.40\00:20:40.87
And I was like, "I know, man."
00:20:40.90\00:20:42.37
And so he was like...
00:20:42.40\00:20:44.24
He says, you know,
00:20:44.27\00:20:45.61
"You've really touched my life,"
00:20:45.64\00:20:47.08
you know, because he
said, "As much as you be real,
00:20:47.11\00:20:50.88
even if you have
to go through things,
00:20:50.91\00:20:53.05
you know, how much
you be real, you know,
00:20:53.08\00:20:55.65
and you don't find
that out here in the world."
00:20:55.68\00:20:58.02
Yes, yes.
00:20:58.05\00:20:59.39
You don't find
real people, you know.
00:20:59.42\00:21:01.82
And he says,
"You've touched me so much
00:21:01.86\00:21:03.63
is how much you'd be there
00:21:03.66\00:21:05.33
anytime you are
needed," you know.
00:21:05.36\00:21:08.70
And so he still lives
around here and stuff,
00:21:08.73\00:21:13.20
and I still keep
in contact with him
00:21:13.23\00:21:14.74
because I graduated
this last year, 2014.
00:21:14.77\00:21:18.51
Okay.
00:21:18.54\00:21:19.87
So then...
00:21:19.91\00:21:22.28
So after that like I said,
00:21:22.31\00:21:25.28
with the girl, I
broke up with her.
00:21:25.31\00:21:27.55
So I was generous
00:21:27.58\00:21:29.82
and I said, "Hey, you
wanna take my car to Missouri."
00:21:29.85\00:21:32.85
Her mom had come
up from Texas. Okay.
00:21:32.89\00:21:35.06
So she was like,
"Yeah, no problem."
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So I said, "Okay."
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So I said, "The
only thing I wanna do is
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because of my
religion and everything.
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I'll pray with
you before you leave,
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so you can have safe travel."
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She said, "Okay."
00:21:46.10\00:21:47.44
So I go to her house
and I go to pick her up.
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And I cleaned everything
out of my car, you know,
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because in my car, I
got a nice sound system,
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two twelve-inch subs,
you know, pushing the amp,
00:21:55.94\00:21:59.21
you know, got to be pimp,
00:21:59.25\00:22:01.22
you know, you
listen to that rap music
00:22:01.25\00:22:03.49
while you're smoking
that joint, you know.
00:22:03.52\00:22:06.79
So I cleaned all that stuff out
00:22:06.82\00:22:09.99
'cause I'm like,
"Man, I don't know
00:22:10.03\00:22:11.36
who's gonna have this car,
00:22:11.39\00:22:12.73
200-300 dollar
equipment in my car," you know,
00:22:12.76\00:22:16.63
"I don't know who's got it."
00:22:16.67\00:22:18.53
You know, so I
cleaned all that stuff out
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and she's always calling
me, "Hey, are you coming?
00:22:20.64\00:22:22.77
Are you coming?"
00:22:22.80\00:22:24.14
I was like,
"Yeah, I'll be there."
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So when I get there,
00:22:25.54\00:22:26.88
her little
brother gets in the car,
00:22:26.91\00:22:28.24
and she's like,
"Okay, I'm gonna drop him off
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at his grandparents' house."
00:22:29.88\00:22:31.25
Well, she lived at
her grandparents' house,
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which is not too
far from my house.
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So I was like, "It
must be those grandparents."
00:22:36.15\00:22:38.35
So I proceed and go
down the New Lake road,
00:22:38.39\00:22:41.06
and that's where
her grandparents lived.
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And so I go down
there and she's like,
00:22:43.93\00:22:46.56
"That's not the
right grandparents."
00:22:46.59\00:22:49.03
She's going to the
other side of the family.
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I said, "Okay."
00:22:51.17\00:22:52.50
So I whip it in by
Stevens Branch road
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and the car kind of
skids, so I counteracted.
00:22:55.10\00:22:58.67
And so I get to my
house, and I get out of the car,
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and I go into the garage,
00:23:00.98\00:23:02.31
and wait for her to
come and pray with me.
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She's like, "I
knew this would happen,
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you know, you
wouldn't let me use the car."
00:23:05.78\00:23:07.95
And blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, went off all on me.
00:23:07.98\00:23:10.55
Yeah. So I followed her.
00:23:10.59\00:23:12.29
And she got out and
started walking down the road,
00:23:12.32\00:23:14.72
so I followed her down the road.
00:23:14.76\00:23:16.66
And I told her,
00:23:16.69\00:23:19.76
she was talking to her
dad to come, pick her up.
00:23:19.79\00:23:22.10
I told her, I said, "I
want your dad to talk to me."
00:23:22.13\00:23:26.70
Okay. She said, "Okay."
00:23:26.74\00:23:28.57
So I get down the road
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and I'm just
coming over the rise
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'cause I live on
the same road as 3ABN.
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While coming over the rise
00:23:34.48\00:23:35.91
and there he's coming up with
his lights on and everything.
00:23:35.94\00:23:39.18
So they put all
the luggage in the car,
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long story short...
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I left that with
five stitches in the mouth
00:23:45.32\00:23:49.46
and two black eyes, because...
00:23:49.49\00:23:51.26
Wow! Wow! So you
and her dad got into it.
00:23:51.29\00:23:53.93
Yeah, her dad
got out of the car,
00:23:53.96\00:23:55.80
her dad was a alcoholic.
00:23:55.83\00:23:57.70
He started...
00:23:57.73\00:23:59.23
No, the brother
started, which was 15.
00:23:59.27\00:24:02.20
He started, got
seven rounds of punches in.
00:24:02.24\00:24:05.51
And then the dad got in
and he got one round in.
00:24:05.54\00:24:09.44
And so there I am, you
know, I'm bleeding all over.
00:24:09.48\00:24:14.38
And I'm like, "Man,
where am I gonna go?"
00:24:14.42\00:24:16.55
You know, "I
don't wanna go back home
00:24:16.58\00:24:18.12
'cause I don't
wanna worry my parents."
00:24:18.15\00:24:20.36
You know, where have I been?
00:24:20.39\00:24:22.32
You know, and stuff like that.
00:24:22.36\00:24:23.89
So that's what I
had to deal with.
00:24:23.93\00:24:25.69
So then I went
to the gas station
00:24:25.73\00:24:27.30
and a couple of my friends were
like, "Man, what's happened?
00:24:27.33\00:24:29.46
You look like, you look
like a zombie, you know,
00:24:29.50\00:24:32.13
and stuff, crying"
00:24:32.17\00:24:33.90
You know, "you
look like a zombie."
00:24:33.94\00:24:35.27
I'm like, "Man,
I just got beat up
00:24:35.30\00:24:37.11
by my ex's father and brother."
00:24:37.14\00:24:41.41
And all it was over
was recklessly driving
00:24:41.44\00:24:43.98
with the little kid
in the car, you know.
00:24:44.01\00:24:46.08
So, no sense in it at all,
00:24:46.11\00:24:51.55
but, so anyhow, I
went to the hospital
00:24:51.59\00:24:53.86
and like I said, I got
five stitches and everything.
00:24:53.89\00:24:56.93
And then I
finally was just like,
00:24:56.96\00:24:58.69
"Man, I gotta kind of
get out this, you know."
00:24:58.73\00:25:01.30
Yeah, so do you think
00:25:01.33\00:25:02.66
that was kind of like
your breaking point in life
00:25:02.70\00:25:04.30
when you realized, "I
needed to make a change."
00:25:04.33\00:25:05.93
It was a little bit
of my breaking point
00:25:05.97\00:25:08.00
but then I still
went back to the alcohol,
00:25:08.04\00:25:09.94
and I still went
back to the weed.
00:25:09.97\00:25:11.97
My biggest
breaking point in my life
00:25:12.01\00:25:14.91
was just here
recently, June 1st, 2014.
00:25:14.94\00:25:20.45
My mom passed away,
you know. Oh, wow! Wow!
00:25:20.48\00:25:22.78
And that's what
really broke me, you know,
00:25:22.82\00:25:25.05
it broke me where I'm just like,
00:25:25.09\00:25:27.29
because the
weekend before she died,
00:25:27.32\00:25:29.79
I was drunk, and I was
smoking weed, you know.
00:25:29.82\00:25:34.13
And I didn't have
that time to spend with her
00:25:34.16\00:25:36.53
when I could've
been spending time
00:25:36.56\00:25:38.23
with my mother
before she died, you know.
00:25:38.27\00:25:40.64
And it really
scars me to this day,
00:25:40.67\00:25:44.21
but I have to move on,
00:25:44.24\00:25:45.87
and I have to know that
I'm gonna see her, you know,
00:25:45.91\00:25:48.31
and that's what it
gives me as assurance that,
00:25:48.34\00:25:50.75
"Hey, I'm gonna
see her in the kingdom,
00:25:50.78\00:25:52.28
so I need to get my life
right with God," you know.
00:25:52.31\00:25:55.38
Definitely, definitely.
00:25:55.42\00:25:56.75
What do you think you
can say to young people,
00:25:56.79\00:25:58.72
looking into the camera because,
00:25:58.75\00:26:00.62
you know, it's
interesting how, like I said,
00:26:00.66\00:26:02.12
you're 19 years old, and many,
many young people at your age,
00:26:02.16\00:26:05.46
they haven't come to that
realization like you have?
00:26:05.49\00:26:08.20
And what do you think that
you can say to young people
00:26:08.23\00:26:11.20
to get them to
realize that, you know,
00:26:11.23\00:26:13.97
the time for the
playing the games is over,
00:26:14.00\00:26:15.87
you know, it's
time to make a change,
00:26:15.90\00:26:17.64
it's time to
come back to the Lord?
00:26:17.67\00:26:19.07
I want you to talk to
that young person right now.
00:26:19.11\00:26:21.51
Well, I really think that,
00:26:21.54\00:26:23.48
what I would like to say to you,
00:26:23.51\00:26:25.15
the young people, right now,
is that, don't wait, you know,
00:26:25.18\00:26:29.85
Aaron shared his testimony,
00:26:29.88\00:26:31.69
don't wait until you
hit rock bottom, you know.
00:26:31.72\00:26:34.36
Sometimes you have to
but if you know the truth
00:26:34.39\00:26:37.76
and you believe the truth,
00:26:37.79\00:26:39.83
don't wait for a
tragedy to happen, you know.
00:26:39.86\00:26:43.40
Losing my mother was a tragedy.
00:26:43.43\00:26:45.70
It had to happen, you know,
before it turned my life around
00:26:45.73\00:26:49.40
and made me think, "Hey, I need
to stop some of these things
00:26:49.44\00:26:53.41
that's going on in
my life," you know.
00:26:53.44\00:26:55.58
And I'm not saying that,
00:26:55.61\00:26:57.15
you know,
everybody's not perfect.
00:26:57.18\00:26:58.81
They got a past, you know,
00:26:58.85\00:27:00.38
but don't wait for
that tragedy to happen.
00:27:00.42\00:27:03.82
Definitely, definitely.
Those are good words.
00:27:03.85\00:27:06.02
You know, like I said,
I'm blessed by your story
00:27:06.05\00:27:08.02
because at 19 years
old, I was out there violent.
00:27:08.06\00:27:11.69
It wasn't until I turned 25,
00:27:11.73\00:27:13.46
where I decided
to come to the Lord,
00:27:13.50\00:27:14.90
but I'm blessed by your story.
00:27:14.93\00:27:16.50
And I know that there's
many mothers and fathers
00:27:16.53\00:27:19.03
that are blessed also
00:27:19.07\00:27:20.40
because their child
is 18, 19 years old,
00:27:20.44\00:27:23.44
and they're in a different place
00:27:23.47\00:27:25.57
than where you are right
now, and praying for them.
00:27:25.61\00:27:27.94
So I know that your
story is a blessing,
00:27:27.98\00:27:29.34
so I wanna thank you, Terrence,
for being on the program
00:27:29.38\00:27:31.98
and sharing your
testimony with the world,
00:27:32.01\00:27:34.55
and would love to
have you back sometime.
00:27:34.58\00:27:36.22
Thank you, Aaron.
00:27:36.25\00:27:37.59
Well, viewers,
we like to thank you
00:27:37.62\00:27:39.22
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00:27:39.25\00:27:40.76
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00:27:40.79\00:27:42.56
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00:27:44.53\00:27:47.16
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00:27:47.20\00:27:50.17
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00:27:50.20\00:27:52.67
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