The following program discusses sensitive issues. 00:00:01.36\00:00:03.67 Parents are cautioned that some material 00:00:03.70\00:00:05.43 may be too candid for younger children. 00:00:05.47\00:00:09.54 Welcome to the New Journey. 00:00:09.57\00:00:10.91 Today, we meet a young woman who transported drugs, 00:00:10.94\00:00:13.71 but now minister the word of God to young people. 00:00:13.74\00:00:16.61 Find out how? Join us on the New Journey. 00:00:16.64\00:00:19.55 Welcome back to the New Journey. 00:00:50.28\00:00:51.85 On today's program, we have Britney Carter with us. 00:00:51.88\00:00:55.02 Welcome, Britney Carter. 00:00:55.05\00:00:56.72 Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. 00:00:56.75\00:00:58.89 Okay, okay. 00:00:58.92\00:01:00.26 What we want to start with is some general questions. 00:01:00.29\00:01:03.09 First of all how old are you? 00:01:03.12\00:01:04.46 I'm 27 years old. 00:01:04.49\00:01:05.99 Okay and where you from? 00:01:06.03\00:01:08.10 I'm from North Carolina, in between Whitesboro, 00:01:08.13\00:01:12.97 New Jersey and North Carolina, I was raised. 00:01:13.00\00:01:14.90 Okay, okay, okay. 00:01:14.94\00:01:17.01 So, your mother and your father, 00:01:17.04\00:01:18.74 they divorced when they were, when you were young age? 00:01:18.77\00:01:21.64 Yes. 00:01:21.68\00:01:23.01 How did that make you feel internally? 00:01:23.04\00:01:24.81 Oh, man, I felt alone because of the issues 00:01:24.85\00:01:30.92 that they were going through. 00:01:30.95\00:01:32.29 They kind of somewhat neglected my emotion 00:01:32.32\00:01:34.86 or what I had to deal with, with my home being separated. 00:01:34.89\00:01:38.23 So I was sent to North Carolina with my grandmother 00:01:38.26\00:01:41.70 and I was lonely. 00:01:41.73\00:01:43.06 And I really didn't have anybody to play with. 00:01:43.10\00:01:45.03 My brother and sister were still with my parents. 00:01:45.07\00:01:47.90 I was sad, I was confused, I didn't understand 00:01:47.94\00:01:50.87 a lot of things that were happening. 00:01:50.91\00:01:52.47 You know, it's interesting there's a, 00:01:52.51\00:01:53.91 there's a lot of young people that, 00:01:53.94\00:01:55.64 you know, they grow up in homes that 00:01:55.68\00:01:57.78 mothers and fathers have divorced. 00:01:57.81\00:01:59.91 And, you know, they're often left with that 00:01:59.95\00:02:02.25 alone feeling or did I do something wrong. 00:02:02.28\00:02:05.02 Absolutely. To cause my parents to divorce. 00:02:05.05\00:02:07.62 Did you ever have that kind of feeling like 00:02:07.66\00:02:09.42 maybe you were the cause of it? 00:02:09.46\00:02:10.79 Well, no, I never felt like I was the cause 00:02:10.83\00:02:12.83 because we went through a lot as a family 00:02:12.86\00:02:17.20 because of the lifestyle that my parents led. 00:02:17.23\00:02:20.60 So, I had a good understanding 00:02:20.64\00:02:22.64 of why my parents were not together anymore. 00:02:22.67\00:02:25.84 So, I didn't feel the blame, but I was affected by it still. 00:02:25.87\00:02:29.34 Okay, okay. 00:02:29.38\00:02:30.71 Now, your mother and your father, 00:02:30.75\00:02:32.08 they were recreational drug users. 00:02:32.11\00:02:33.68 Yes. 00:02:33.72\00:02:35.05 Do you think that that, that kind of propelled you 00:02:35.08\00:02:37.59 into the lifestyle of selling 00:02:37.62\00:02:39.35 and using drugs later on in life? 00:02:39.39\00:02:40.76 Absolutely. Okay. 00:02:40.79\00:02:42.12 It definitely did because that was what I knew. 00:02:42.16\00:02:44.86 And even though as I grew older I knew it was wrong. 00:02:44.89\00:02:47.70 It was one of those things where you say. 00:02:47.73\00:02:49.96 "Well, I know it's not okay to do this 00:02:50.00\00:02:51.70 but I mean, it's okay to do it." 00:02:51.73\00:02:53.90 You know, I'm gonna do it because that's what I'm used to 00:02:53.94\00:02:56.44 and I know that if I do this, I'm not gonna lack anything. 00:02:56.47\00:02:59.64 What were some of the drugs 00:02:59.67\00:03:01.21 that your mother and father used 00:03:01.24\00:03:03.91 that you would see them using as you were growing up? 00:03:03.95\00:03:07.68 I never saw them with my own eyes using drugs, using them. 00:03:07.72\00:03:12.45 I saw the drugs. It was cocaine and marijuana. 00:03:12.49\00:03:17.83 But, you know, I find it under the bed 00:03:17.86\00:03:20.30 or several times my door was broken down by the police. 00:03:20.33\00:03:24.03 And they'd find it in different places in the house 00:03:24.07\00:03:26.60 or will get pulled over by the cops. 00:03:26.63\00:03:29.47 I'll see my mom like stuffing the diaper bag, 00:03:29.50\00:03:32.01 so she can try to hide it so I saw it, 00:03:32.04\00:03:34.31 but I didn't know until I got older that they were users. 00:03:34.34\00:03:37.05 Okay, so as a young person when you would see 00:03:37.08\00:03:38.91 these police officers knocking down your door, 00:03:38.95\00:03:41.78 did that kind of instilled a fear in you, 00:03:41.82\00:03:44.35 or a little bit unrest of not sure what's going on? 00:03:44.39\00:03:47.56 Definitely, definitely unrest. 00:03:47.59\00:03:50.06 Not really a fear because I mean, 00:03:50.09\00:03:52.23 I didn't understand the consequence at the time. 00:03:52.26\00:03:56.16 So, it was like an uneasy feeling all the time, 00:03:56.20\00:03:59.90 uncomfortable feeling not knowing 00:03:59.93\00:04:02.10 when something big might happen 00:04:02.14\00:04:04.67 because this major to be sitting 00:04:04.71\00:04:06.94 in the living room at home watching a movie. 00:04:06.98\00:04:10.01 You know, everybody is laid out on the floor 00:04:10.05\00:04:11.61 and all of a sudden bam, you know, 00:04:11.65\00:04:13.68 your door is knocked down. 00:04:13.72\00:04:15.08 Door knocked down, police come running in. 00:04:15.12\00:04:16.48 So, it's just like, "Oh, my gosh. 00:04:16.52\00:04:17.99 When is that going to happen again? 00:04:18.02\00:04:19.55 Okay. Is it going to happen again? 00:04:19.59\00:04:21.82 It's scary. You informed me. 00:04:21.86\00:04:23.59 That you had been molested at a young age. 00:04:23.63\00:04:26.76 Talk about that a little bit? 00:04:26.80\00:04:30.03 It started when I was maybe about five years old. 00:04:30.07\00:04:34.10 Okay. 00:04:34.14\00:04:35.47 And we went to visit some family in New York. 00:04:35.50\00:04:38.51 And there was a bunch of us and everybody was on the floor 00:04:38.54\00:04:42.68 with blankets, and pillows, and sleeping 00:04:42.71\00:04:44.61 and I remember waking up to that feeling 00:04:44.65\00:04:49.98 of somebody touching me down there. 00:04:50.02\00:04:52.59 And when I looked up, 00:04:52.62\00:04:53.96 it was actually one of my uncles. 00:04:53.99\00:04:56.12 And he was laying beside me, 00:04:56.16\00:04:57.49 and he was trying to penetrate me 00:04:57.53\00:04:59.96 while I was lying down. 00:05:00.00\00:05:01.50 Now, did that happen repeatedly through life or...? 00:05:01.53\00:05:03.80 From him, that was the only time. 00:05:03.83\00:05:06.00 Okay. 00:05:06.03\00:05:07.37 It happened later when I moved to North Carolina 00:05:07.40\00:05:09.47 after my parents' divorce by my grandmother's husband. 00:05:09.50\00:05:13.58 So, as a young person going through something like that, 00:05:13.61\00:05:16.98 how does that make you feel emotionally? 00:05:17.01\00:05:18.95 Oh, my gosh. 00:05:18.98\00:05:20.78 That's when you feel like what have I done. 00:05:20.82\00:05:23.28 Okay. To cause this to happen to me. 00:05:23.32\00:05:25.52 So, it's kind of like you start to blame yourself for. 00:05:25.55\00:05:26.96 You do, you start to blame yourself 00:05:26.99\00:05:28.59 because you're trying to figure out like what did I do. 00:05:28.62\00:05:30.93 You know, why, why did they decide to do this to me. 00:05:30.96\00:05:33.76 It's a very scary feeling, and living in a lifestyle 00:05:33.80\00:05:37.97 with my parents being, you know, 00:05:38.00\00:05:41.47 drug users and sellers, you see a lot of violence. 00:05:41.50\00:05:46.07 So, it's almost like, you know, I don't want to say anything 00:05:46.11\00:05:49.58 because I'm afraid of what's going to happen 00:05:49.61\00:05:51.55 that you constantly live in fear 00:05:51.58\00:05:53.28 because it destroys your trust for anybody. 00:05:53.31\00:05:56.69 Okay. Okay, that's understandable. 00:05:56.72\00:05:58.09 You know, I've heard many people say that 00:05:58.12\00:06:00.62 they were molested, many females 00:06:00.66\00:06:02.22 molested at a young age. 00:06:02.26\00:06:03.79 And then it's hard to maintain relationships 00:06:03.83\00:06:06.66 with men later on in life 00:06:06.70\00:06:09.36 due to what has happened in the past. 00:06:09.40\00:06:11.60 Has that been kind of your case throughout life or...? 00:06:11.63\00:06:15.90 Not really. Okay. 00:06:15.94\00:06:17.27 I didn't entrust that well. 00:06:17.31\00:06:19.31 I had the same boyfriend from the time 00:06:19.34\00:06:21.31 that I was 14 until I was 25. 00:06:21.34\00:06:24.58 He died in a car accident. 00:06:24.61\00:06:28.82 I didn't have an issue with maintaining the relationship, 00:06:28.85\00:06:33.99 I had an issue with trust. 00:06:34.02\00:06:35.49 Trust, okay. 00:06:35.52\00:06:36.86 And I was constantly worrying, or constantly accusing, 00:06:36.89\00:06:41.33 or constantly blaming, never settled, 00:06:41.36\00:06:43.90 never happy, never at peace. 00:06:43.93\00:06:46.33 You know, the trust was just not there 00:06:46.37\00:06:48.20 along with several other things 00:06:48.24\00:06:49.84 that happened throughout the years following that. 00:06:49.87\00:06:53.58 That's understandable. 00:06:53.61\00:06:54.94 Now, you told me that your mother 00:06:54.98\00:06:56.31 was eventually in a car accident. 00:06:56.34\00:06:58.25 Yes. And it left her blind. 00:06:58.28\00:07:00.58 It did. 00:07:00.62\00:07:01.95 How did that affect your life when that happened? 00:07:01.98\00:07:04.15 That actually pulled me closer to God. 00:07:04.19\00:07:07.12 Okay. 00:07:07.16\00:07:08.49 I want to say, I was maybe about nine or ten years old. 00:07:08.52\00:07:12.46 I want to say, I was nine, it was about a year after her, 00:07:12.49\00:07:15.10 my mom, her and my, father divorced. 00:07:15.13\00:07:17.00 Okay. 00:07:17.03\00:07:18.37 And I didn't know what happened at first, 00:07:18.40\00:07:21.10 it was like a big secret. 00:07:21.14\00:07:22.47 You know, I kept saying, "Gosh! 00:07:22.50\00:07:24.27 Why haven't I heard from my mom, she hasn't called? 00:07:24.31\00:07:26.74 I'm all the way here in North Carolina." 00:07:26.78\00:07:29.04 And the thing that I hope for every day 00:07:29.08\00:07:31.35 was to hear from my mom, so a time spent went 00:07:31.38\00:07:33.52 by where I didn't hear from her for a while. 00:07:33.55\00:07:35.95 And I was like, "Gosh! I wonder what's going on." 00:07:35.98\00:07:37.65 So, I actually had a cousin that said, "Yeah, 00:07:37.69\00:07:40.66 your mom was in the car accident, she's blind." 00:07:40.69\00:07:42.72 I'm like, "No, she's not." 00:07:42.76\00:07:44.09 And I remember getting so angry and so mad 00:07:44.13\00:07:45.89 because he said that, 00:07:45.93\00:07:47.26 but then my grandmother broke down 00:07:47.30\00:07:48.63 and she told me the truth. 00:07:48.66\00:07:50.00 And she said that she was in the accident. 00:07:50.03\00:07:51.83 The airbag burst and it broke the glass in her frames, 00:07:51.87\00:07:57.21 and it went into her eyes. 00:07:57.24\00:07:58.94 So the glass shattered into her eyes. 00:07:58.97\00:08:00.31 The glass shattered into her eyes 00:08:00.34\00:08:01.68 and they said that she would never be able to see again. 00:08:01.71\00:08:03.88 And from that point on is where I remember learning 00:08:03.91\00:08:07.18 how to pray every day. 00:08:07.22\00:08:08.58 Okay. Like that became my thing. 00:08:08.62\00:08:10.52 You know, I went to church sometimes 00:08:10.55\00:08:12.92 but it was like day, morning, noon, night, 00:08:12.95\00:08:17.59 you know, while I'm in school, 00:08:17.63\00:08:18.96 I was constantly thinking about it. 00:08:18.99\00:08:20.60 And it was like just talking to God all day every day. 00:08:20.63\00:08:23.13 Okay, now, you eventually got into drugs 00:08:23.16\00:08:26.57 like your mother and father used drugs 00:08:26.60\00:08:28.27 when you were younger. 00:08:28.30\00:08:29.64 At what age did you kind of 00:08:29.67\00:08:31.07 become involved with using drugs? 00:08:31.11\00:08:32.84 Fourteen. Okay. 00:08:32.87\00:08:34.21 And I know for most folks that use drugs, 00:08:34.24\00:08:37.18 it's generally at a young age. 00:08:37.21\00:08:38.91 I know for myself, I started when I was about 15 years old 00:08:38.95\00:08:42.25 and, you know, it's kind of like this downhill spiral. 00:08:42.28\00:08:45.75 So, at 14 you started using drugs. 00:08:45.79\00:08:47.46 What were some of those drugs you were involved with? 00:08:47.49\00:08:49.82 The only drug I used was marijuana. 00:08:49.86\00:08:51.99 Okay. 00:08:52.03\00:08:53.36 And I don't want to simplify that, 00:08:53.40\00:08:54.76 because that was quite too much, is it? 00:08:54.80\00:08:58.00 Marijuana is being a simplified, 00:08:58.03\00:08:59.67 but it is an issue and it was an addiction for me. 00:08:59.70\00:09:02.17 Okay. Yes. 00:09:02.20\00:09:03.67 Now you eventually got into transporting drugs 00:09:03.71\00:09:07.34 with your then boyfriend. 00:09:07.38\00:09:08.88 How did all of that transpire? 00:09:08.91\00:09:10.78 Well, he grew up pretty much 00:09:10.81\00:09:13.42 in the same lifestyle that I did. 00:09:13.45\00:09:14.78 Okay. 00:09:14.82\00:09:16.15 So, that was what he did, when he got to a age 00:09:16.18\00:09:20.36 of being able to move around by himself. 00:09:20.39\00:09:22.99 And I was his girlfriend. Okay. 00:09:23.02\00:09:26.49 And that's what we did. 00:09:26.53\00:09:27.86 You know, I tried to look out for him. 00:09:27.90\00:09:30.17 I wanted to protect him in any way shape or form. 00:09:30.20\00:09:33.34 And anybody that lives in that kind of lifestyle 00:09:33.37\00:09:36.57 knows that, it's like a line of loyalty and trust. 00:09:36.60\00:09:39.94 So, because we're together, I trust you, 00:09:39.97\00:09:43.35 I don't trust anybody else. I need you to do this for me. 00:09:43.38\00:09:46.82 And I was comfortable with it, because I saw my mom do it, 00:09:46.85\00:09:51.62 you know, my whole childhood. 00:09:51.65\00:09:53.32 So, I was like, this is what I'm supposed to do. 00:09:53.36\00:09:55.29 Yeah. Okay, okay. 00:09:55.32\00:09:56.99 I know for myself. 00:09:57.03\00:09:58.43 I got into transporting drugs 00:09:58.46\00:10:00.13 and I was transporting marijuana 00:10:00.16\00:10:02.56 from Texas to North Carolina years ago. 00:10:02.60\00:10:06.84 And, you know, you see, 00:10:06.87\00:10:08.20 you see this big reward out of it. 00:10:08.24\00:10:09.80 You know, you're moving on this way, 00:10:09.84\00:10:11.37 and you know you get all this money 00:10:11.41\00:10:12.74 and stuff like that. 00:10:12.77\00:10:14.34 So, I imagine it that you were seeing lots of money 00:10:14.38\00:10:16.68 in transporting these drugs. 00:10:16.71\00:10:18.05 Yes. Okay. 00:10:18.08\00:10:19.41 We saw lots of money. 00:10:19.45\00:10:20.78 It was so bad to the point where you start finding money 00:10:20.82\00:10:23.89 you didn't even know you had. 00:10:23.92\00:10:25.35 You know, like we were moving from one place. 00:10:25.39\00:10:28.22 A couple of years after that 00:10:28.26\00:10:29.66 and we were going through our clothes 00:10:29.69\00:10:31.26 and we found like a couple of bundles of $1000 00:10:31.29\00:10:34.20 in our clothes and stuff and it was nothing. 00:10:34.23\00:10:36.43 Okay. Okay. You know. 00:10:36.46\00:10:37.80 What were some of the drugs that you were transporting? 00:10:37.83\00:10:41.90 We were transporting cocaine and crack. 00:10:41.94\00:10:46.07 Cocaine and crack, okay. Crack form. 00:10:46.11\00:10:47.74 Okay, yes, I know you're making a lot of money doing that. 00:10:47.78\00:10:51.55 It does carry a lot of money. 00:10:51.58\00:10:53.42 Does carry a lot of time behind it also. 00:10:53.45\00:10:56.15 For myself, I transported marijuana. 00:10:56.18\00:10:58.52 And, you know, the reward monetarily isn't as great 00:10:58.55\00:11:01.76 or is fast as cocaine but it still is a great reward. 00:11:01.79\00:11:07.10 But there was always something that was in your head, 00:11:07.13\00:11:09.30 even when you were out there selling drugs, using drugs, 00:11:09.33\00:11:12.97 on various relationships and all, 00:11:13.00\00:11:15.00 there was always this voice in your head. 00:11:15.04\00:11:16.57 Tell me about this voice in your head? 00:11:16.60\00:11:19.64 This voice was with me from the time 00:11:19.67\00:11:22.01 I can remember about two years old. 00:11:22.04\00:11:23.61 Okay. 00:11:23.65\00:11:24.98 And at every pressure, any circumstance 00:11:25.01\00:11:30.82 where I felt a lot of pressure, the voice was louder. 00:11:30.85\00:11:33.89 You know, it was, "I'm there, you're gonna be okay, 00:11:33.92\00:11:38.03 I'm gonna protect you or you know, 00:11:38.06\00:11:41.10 just stay calm or just relax." 00:11:41.13\00:11:43.26 But when I got into doing things like transporting drugs, 00:11:43.30\00:11:48.64 the voice would say to me, 00:11:48.67\00:11:50.07 you know, you know you shouldn't do this. 00:11:50.11\00:11:52.24 Or this isn't the way for you to do it. 00:11:52.27\00:11:55.94 If you just trust me or if you just do 00:11:55.98\00:11:57.71 what I ask you to do, you know, you would be a lot happier. 00:11:57.75\00:12:01.48 And I'm just like, I never saw it. 00:12:01.52\00:12:03.59 Okay. I couldn't get the vision. 00:12:03.62\00:12:05.79 Like this was my life, this is what I was used to, 00:12:05.82\00:12:08.19 so how could I listen to this voice trying to tell me 00:12:08.22\00:12:11.36 I would be happier doing something 00:12:11.39\00:12:13.03 that I have never done before, you know. 00:12:13.06\00:12:15.50 Yeah, yeah. You know it's interesting. 00:12:15.53\00:12:17.80 You told me that you were eventually 00:12:17.83\00:12:19.80 put on depression medicine. 00:12:19.83\00:12:22.47 What were you put? 00:12:22.50\00:12:24.24 Why were you put on depression medicine? 00:12:24.27\00:12:26.68 Anger. Anger, okay. 00:12:26.71\00:12:28.04 Yes, I had a lot of built up anger. 00:12:28.08\00:12:30.35 Okay, now what was the anger towards? 00:12:30.38\00:12:33.01 Oh, man, the anger was, it was towards my mother. 00:12:33.05\00:12:35.38 Okay. It was towards my father. 00:12:35.42\00:12:38.05 It was towards God. Okay. 00:12:38.09\00:12:40.96 It was towards my boyfriend at the time. 00:12:40.99\00:12:44.33 There was a lot of cheating, 00:12:44.36\00:12:45.99 a lot of lying and a lot of being left alone, 00:12:46.03\00:12:48.46 because every time I would face serious situations in my life, 00:12:48.50\00:12:52.27 it would come back to me being by myself. 00:12:52.30\00:12:54.40 Okay. 00:12:54.44\00:12:55.77 And that's what it was, so I would lash out. 00:12:55.80\00:12:58.17 Hurl, scream, howl or throw things. 00:12:58.21\00:13:00.54 I remember breaking windows in my house. 00:13:00.58\00:13:02.54 I remember running hitting him with a car. 00:13:02.58\00:13:05.05 You know like, I was blessed that God covered us 00:13:05.08\00:13:08.35 to the fact that neither one of us 00:13:08.38\00:13:09.88 were seriously injured by the behavior 00:13:09.92\00:13:12.12 that was going on in the relationship. 00:13:12.15\00:13:14.49 But I was like losing my mind. Okay, okay. 00:13:14.52\00:13:18.19 And that's understandable. 00:13:18.23\00:13:19.86 You know, the various things that we go through, 00:13:19.89\00:13:22.06 while we're "out there in the streets." 00:13:22.10\00:13:25.33 Lot of built up anger, frustration and all, 00:13:25.37\00:13:27.87 but did you get a inner peace or inner joy from using drugs, 00:13:27.90\00:13:33.68 selling drugs, did it give you that? 00:13:33.71\00:13:35.64 Absolutely not. 00:13:35.68\00:13:37.01 No, no why did it not give that to you? 00:13:37.05\00:13:38.41 It made me more miserable. 00:13:38.45\00:13:39.81 More miserable? I was-- 00:13:39.85\00:13:41.45 It was so bad to where I hid the fact 00:13:41.48\00:13:45.25 that I was smoking marijuana for years. 00:13:45.29\00:13:47.46 Okay. 00:13:47.49\00:13:48.82 But it was bad to where when I woke up in the morning, 00:13:48.86\00:13:50.99 I had to get high throughout the day. 00:13:51.03\00:13:53.26 As soon as my heart would start going down, 00:13:53.29\00:13:55.00 I have to get high again. 00:13:55.03\00:13:56.73 When nighttime come, I have to get high. 00:13:56.77\00:13:58.83 So, I can rest because it was, 00:13:58.87\00:14:00.70 it was like my guilt from that actions 00:14:00.74\00:14:03.20 and the behaviors and I mean, it was so many things 00:14:03.24\00:14:07.28 that I had done from setting up people to be robbed, 00:14:07.31\00:14:09.64 and shooting at people, and beating people over money. 00:14:09.68\00:14:13.58 Transporting these drugs, along with the abuse 00:14:13.62\00:14:16.69 that I had already went through in my childhood, 00:14:16.72\00:14:18.65 I was nowhere near at peace. 00:14:18.69\00:14:20.62 And my thoughts were literally destroying my mind. 00:14:20.66\00:14:24.26 So, I got high and higher and higher, 00:14:24.29\00:14:26.80 then I got more irritable, when I wasn't high 00:14:26.83\00:14:28.96 and more mean, you know, more aggravated. 00:14:29.00\00:14:31.73 And it was like, I had to do it to maintain 00:14:31.77\00:14:34.30 any kind of peace in my head but it just, it never worked. 00:14:34.34\00:14:37.17 So, it never provided any peace. 00:14:37.21\00:14:38.77 You know, many, many young people 00:14:38.81\00:14:40.58 get involved in the drugs, and the fast money, 00:14:40.61\00:14:43.01 and things thinking that is going 00:14:43.04\00:14:44.65 to bring some kind of joy to their lives. 00:14:44.68\00:14:46.51 Right. 00:14:46.55\00:14:47.88 In reality that I found was that the way God created us 00:14:47.92\00:14:53.22 was that we could only find inner joy 00:14:53.25\00:14:55.42 or inner peace through Him. 00:14:55.46\00:14:57.33 You can have the money. You can have the fast cars. 00:14:57.36\00:15:00.23 You can have the drugs and all these things, 00:15:00.26\00:15:01.66 but they won't ever bring that inner satisfaction. 00:15:01.70\00:15:05.70 Because God didn't design us that way. 00:15:05.73\00:15:07.14 Right. 00:15:07.17\00:15:08.84 So, you felt that same exact thing, 00:15:08.87\00:15:10.54 kind of like being trapped in this lifestyle. 00:15:10.57\00:15:13.44 Wanting to get out but not knowing where to go. 00:15:13.48\00:15:15.71 This is what you're used to your entire life. 00:15:15.74\00:15:18.25 Trapped. Okay. 00:15:18.28\00:15:19.61 I felt like there was no way for me to get out of it. 00:15:19.65\00:15:23.89 I was never going to be happy. 00:15:23.92\00:15:25.55 I really felt like the best way for me 00:15:25.59\00:15:27.46 to get out of it was to just kill myself. 00:15:27.49\00:15:29.09 Yeah, okay. 00:15:29.12\00:15:30.46 Now, and we're going to come back to that 00:15:30.49\00:15:32.36 in terms of killing yourself and the thoughts of suicide. 00:15:32.39\00:15:35.26 But if you can, look backing on your life now 00:15:35.30\00:15:38.27 and if you could change certain things in your lifestyle, 00:15:38.30\00:15:41.20 the things that you had to go through, 00:15:41.24\00:15:42.74 the things you got involved in, would you do that 00:15:42.77\00:15:45.01 or would you still take the same path? 00:15:45.04\00:15:46.78 I wouldn't change it. 00:15:46.81\00:15:48.14 You wouldn't change it? No. 00:15:48.18\00:15:49.51 Okay, now let me ask you why would you not change it? 00:15:49.54\00:15:50.88 I would not change it 00:15:50.91\00:15:52.25 because everything that I endured 00:15:52.28\00:15:53.62 and everything I went through made me who I am today. 00:15:53.65\00:15:57.42 And I would not trust God or love God 00:15:57.45\00:15:59.89 or depend on God the way that I do, 00:15:59.92\00:16:01.59 or have such a strong relationship with Him now 00:16:01.62\00:16:04.39 if I had not been faced with so many adversities. 00:16:04.43\00:16:07.83 Okay, now, you told me that you had a debate with God. 00:16:07.86\00:16:10.87 Yes. At one point, you were still-- 00:16:10.90\00:16:12.33 you still out there are using drugs, 00:16:12.37\00:16:13.84 selling drugs things like that. 00:16:13.87\00:16:15.20 But you had a debate with God. Yes. 00:16:15.24\00:16:16.94 Talk to us about the debate you had with God? 00:16:16.97\00:16:19.84 God have been calling me 00:16:19.87\00:16:21.38 and talking to me my whole life. 00:16:21.41\00:16:22.74 Okay. 00:16:22.78\00:16:24.25 I know I strayed way, 00:16:24.28\00:16:25.65 but it's not like I forgot who He was. 00:16:25.68\00:16:27.72 That was that voice that was constantly-- 00:16:27.75\00:16:29.08 That was that voice on my head, 00:16:29.12\00:16:30.45 he wouldn't allow me to forget Him. 00:16:30.49\00:16:31.82 Okay. 00:16:31.85\00:16:33.19 So, I got to a point where I wanted to do 00:16:33.22\00:16:35.82 what I was doing. 00:16:35.86\00:16:37.19 He kept telling me 00:16:37.23\00:16:38.56 that I needed to do something else. 00:16:38.59\00:16:40.10 And we were going back and forth, 00:16:40.13\00:16:41.56 and I was literally screaming outside on the porch. 00:16:41.60\00:16:44.53 I remember screaming, just leave me alone. 00:16:44.57\00:16:47.44 Get out of my head. 00:16:47.47\00:16:49.10 I'm not going to do what you're asking me to do. 00:16:49.14\00:16:51.07 I'm not cut out for this type of lifestyle, 00:16:51.11\00:16:53.31 just leave me alone. 00:16:53.34\00:16:54.81 And so simply he told me, "You either choose the life 00:16:54.84\00:16:58.45 that you're living and die or do what I ask you to do." 00:16:58.48\00:17:03.59 You know, I had that same kind of experience 00:17:03.62\00:17:06.42 especially for me growing up in a Christian household. 00:17:06.45\00:17:10.76 I was trying to run from God for so long, 00:17:10.79\00:17:13.50 and I could literally hear 00:17:13.53\00:17:14.86 the voice of God speaking to me. 00:17:14.90\00:17:17.30 And every time I would hear that voice, 00:17:17.33\00:17:19.00 I would purposely get high. 00:17:19.03\00:17:20.70 Purposely go ahead and snort some cocaine 00:17:20.74\00:17:22.87 or something to try to drown that voice out of my head. 00:17:22.90\00:17:26.84 Looking back on it, I praise the Lord that it didn't work. 00:17:26.88\00:17:29.94 It didn't work. 00:17:29.98\00:17:31.31 Holy Spirit continued to try to woo me and get my attention. 00:17:31.35\00:17:35.38 But you got to the point 00:17:35.42\00:17:37.19 where you were trying to commit suicide. 00:17:37.22\00:17:40.26 Why? 00:17:40.29\00:17:41.69 Even though you were making all this money, 00:17:41.72\00:17:43.83 doing all these different things out there 00:17:43.86\00:17:45.33 why, why were you contemplating suicide? 00:17:45.36\00:17:48.10 Because I was so miserable. 00:17:48.13\00:17:49.46 Okay. I hated myself. 00:17:49.50\00:17:52.20 I wasn't happy when I looked in the mirror. 00:17:52.23\00:17:54.27 My self-esteem was low. 00:17:54.30\00:17:56.20 I was in a relationship where I was very much in love 00:17:56.24\00:17:59.84 but it was just, it was just wrong. 00:17:59.87\00:18:04.98 Okay. On so many different levels. 00:18:05.01\00:18:06.85 I wasn't getting what I needed emotionally. 00:18:06.88\00:18:11.45 I was sad, I was hurt, I was broken, I just was in, 00:18:11.49\00:18:17.29 I was in constant pain everyday like, 00:18:17.33\00:18:19.29 when you're so emotionally torn 00:18:19.33\00:18:21.26 that it physically affects your body. 00:18:21.30\00:18:23.83 That it becomes, 00:18:23.87\00:18:27.64 how would I say comfortable for you to feel like that, 00:18:27.67\00:18:30.61 I had got uncomfortable with hurting 24 hours a day, 00:18:30.64\00:18:33.31 seven days a week. 00:18:33.34\00:18:34.74 Just miserable Yeah. 00:18:34.78\00:18:36.24 And, like I said, I didn't see a way out. 00:18:36.28\00:18:39.71 So, I could say, you know, everybody would keep telling me 00:18:39.75\00:18:41.98 you know, you can do all things through Christ. 00:18:42.02\00:18:44.42 And there's a way, 00:18:44.45\00:18:46.35 there's a light at the end of the tunnel, 00:18:46.39\00:18:47.76 God will bring you through. 00:18:47.79\00:18:49.26 But when you're in sorrow, the way that I was in, 00:18:49.29\00:18:51.76 you can't see it. 00:18:51.79\00:18:53.66 It's like I can't see myself coming out of this. 00:18:53.70\00:18:56.20 So, what can I do to just stop this pain. 00:18:56.23\00:18:59.50 Just stop it all, yeah. 00:18:59.53\00:19:00.87 And the only way I felt like I could stop 00:19:00.90\00:19:02.90 it was if I committed suicide. 00:19:02.94\00:19:04.51 Now, did you, did you ever actually attempt 00:19:04.54\00:19:06.78 or it was just kind of like the thoughts in your head? 00:19:06.81\00:19:10.88 I remember several times, 00:19:10.91\00:19:12.71 sitting up with a bunch of pill saying, 00:19:12.75\00:19:15.28 "I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this." 00:19:15.32\00:19:18.02 But never-- it seemed like every time 00:19:18.05\00:19:20.06 that I would get in that kind of situation, 00:19:20.09\00:19:22.79 something would interrupt me. 00:19:22.82\00:19:24.56 Somebody would come by, or somebody would call, 00:19:24.59\00:19:26.33 or something would happen. 00:19:26.36\00:19:27.86 And I remember not the last time, 00:19:27.90\00:19:30.90 but the time before the last time that I thought about it. 00:19:30.93\00:19:35.40 I think I found out I was pregnant like that night. 00:19:35.44\00:19:38.21 Okay. 00:19:38.24\00:19:39.57 So, it was just like, "Oh, my gosh!" 00:19:39.61\00:19:43.51 Wow! Good thing at a bad timing. 00:19:43.55\00:19:45.68 Yeah. Bad timing. 00:19:45.71\00:19:47.05 Yeah. Well, great timing. 00:19:47.08\00:19:48.55 But at the time I was just like. 00:19:48.58\00:19:50.75 What is happening like, it felt like the worst thing 00:19:50.79\00:19:53.52 that could ever happen to me though. 00:19:53.56\00:19:54.96 You know, looking back you got to praise the Lord 00:19:54.99\00:19:57.13 that you thought about suicide, but you never went through it. 00:19:57.16\00:20:00.86 Never went through it. 00:20:00.90\00:20:02.23 You know, I had the same situation, 00:20:02.26\00:20:03.67 you know, how you get stuck in that circle of life. 00:20:03.70\00:20:06.47 And you want a change, you don't know how to change. 00:20:06.50\00:20:09.10 It's like you're trapped physically, mentally, 00:20:09.14\00:20:11.87 everything just trapped. 00:20:11.91\00:20:13.71 And I remember I actually kept trying. 00:20:13.74\00:20:16.54 I had various guns at the time 00:20:16.58\00:20:18.35 where I could have just shot myself in the head. 00:20:18.38\00:20:20.58 And did it, but I felt that that was kind of 00:20:20.62\00:20:23.22 a messy way to go out. 00:20:23.25\00:20:24.75 And what if I do it and I still happen to live. 00:20:24.79\00:20:27.96 Still happen to live. 00:20:27.99\00:20:29.32 So, what I try to do was take as many drugs 00:20:29.36\00:20:31.39 as I could at the time, using cocaine, heroin, ecstasy, 00:20:31.43\00:20:35.80 popping prescription pills, marijuana, alcohol. 00:20:35.83\00:20:38.83 And I thought to myself. 00:20:38.87\00:20:40.40 What if I just take so many drugs at overdose 00:20:40.44\00:20:43.67 and just fall asleep and not wake up. 00:20:43.71\00:20:45.84 I thought it would just be a peaceful way out of this. 00:20:45.87\00:20:48.38 But looking back on and I praise the Lord-- 00:20:48.41\00:20:49.91 That it didn't work. Amen. 00:20:49.94\00:20:51.35 Because where God has me now, 00:20:51.38\00:20:52.71 where God has brought you Britney? 00:20:52.75\00:20:54.58 You know, it's great that it didn't work. 00:20:54.62\00:20:56.62 At what point did you begin to make that transition to God? 00:20:56.65\00:21:01.02 I started when I had my first son. 00:21:01.06\00:21:03.19 I started going to church more, I started praying more, 00:21:03.22\00:21:06.59 and trying to rebuild my relationship with God. 00:21:06.63\00:21:10.10 I wasn't that successful in the beginning 00:21:10.13\00:21:13.10 because there were still some things 00:21:13.13\00:21:14.47 that I was doing like getting high. 00:21:14.50\00:21:16.37 And I struggle with trying to stop. 00:21:16.40\00:21:18.31 So, I guess I was about 20 years old 00:21:18.34\00:21:20.48 when I started trying to rebuild. 00:21:20.51\00:21:22.24 Okay, what were, when you started 00:21:22.28\00:21:23.81 to try to make that change, 00:21:23.85\00:21:25.18 what were some of the biggest obstacles 00:21:25.21\00:21:26.75 that you had to overcome? 00:21:26.78\00:21:28.68 Getting high. Getting high, okay. 00:21:28.72\00:21:30.55 Okay, okay. That was the biggest obstacle. 00:21:30.59\00:21:32.32 Yes, because it was like I needed it. 00:21:32.35\00:21:33.69 Yeah. 00:21:33.72\00:21:35.06 I had already been doing it for so many years, 00:21:35.09\00:21:36.52 so I felt like I needed it to function. 00:21:36.56\00:21:38.99 So, it was the biggest obstacle because like I said, 00:21:39.03\00:21:41.66 I had mood swings, and I would get upset and angry 00:21:41.70\00:21:44.53 when I wasn't getting high, 00:21:44.57\00:21:45.90 so that was definitely the biggest obstacle for me. 00:21:45.93\00:21:48.14 All right, and that's understandable, 00:21:48.17\00:21:49.57 you know, sometimes we get so shackled to the things 00:21:49.60\00:21:52.91 that we love, to the things that we're accustomed to doing, 00:21:52.94\00:21:55.91 that even trying to make that change is very difficult. 00:21:55.94\00:21:59.31 You know, and the Bible says that, 00:21:59.35\00:22:00.68 "We wrestle not against flesh and blood." 00:22:00.72\00:22:02.72 So, it's like, it's a spiritual warfare that's going on, 00:22:02.75\00:22:05.85 even when we want to make this transition 00:22:05.89\00:22:08.42 is sometimes very hard, but you eventually did. 00:22:08.46\00:22:10.93 Yes. You made that transition. 00:22:10.96\00:22:12.96 And then you got into church. 00:22:12.99\00:22:14.56 And you did your first sermon, 00:22:14.60\00:22:15.93 it was entitled "Life after Death." 00:22:15.96\00:22:17.83 Yes. Talk briefly about that? 00:22:17.87\00:22:19.53 Life after Death actually came from the song Life after Death, 00:22:19.57\00:22:25.37 by the rapper Notorious B.I.G. 00:22:25.41\00:22:27.94 And basically what it was, was me giving my testimony 00:22:27.98\00:22:31.95 about my new life after being dead for so long. 00:22:31.98\00:22:36.62 So, everybody knows that. 00:22:36.65\00:22:38.15 You know, to me it's worse to die in the spirit, 00:22:38.19\00:22:42.56 than it is in the flesh. 00:22:42.59\00:22:43.93 And spiritually I was dead, 00:22:43.96\00:22:45.29 so I spoke about being resurrected. 00:22:45.33\00:22:47.76 Okay. 00:22:47.80\00:22:49.13 After God, Jesus picked me up and placed me on my feet 00:22:49.16\00:22:53.70 and got me going for the right direction. 00:22:53.74\00:22:56.40 Praise the Lord. Now, you have-- 00:22:56.44\00:22:58.34 You changed your life, you're in church 00:22:58.37\00:23:00.91 and you have this new contentment, 00:23:00.94\00:23:02.38 this new peace, even though you're not making 00:23:02.41\00:23:05.01 lots of money like before. 00:23:05.05\00:23:06.85 You're not involved in the streets anymore. 00:23:06.88\00:23:09.52 But, how can you explain this containment, 00:23:09.55\00:23:12.35 this peace that you now have, 00:23:12.39\00:23:14.09 even though you're lacking monetarily like from before. 00:23:14.12\00:23:18.09 The best way I can explain it is, 00:23:18.13\00:23:21.40 is the scripture that says, 00:23:21.43\00:23:22.76 "God will keep you in perfect peace." 00:23:22.80\00:23:25.43 And I sing that to myself on a daily basis 00:23:25.47\00:23:29.30 because even though I lack in my finances 00:23:29.34\00:23:32.61 and I'm struggling to try to get back 00:23:32.64\00:23:34.34 on my feet and start my career. 00:23:34.38\00:23:37.65 God has not allowed me to lack anything, 00:23:37.68\00:23:40.15 so for so many years of doing what I was doing 00:23:40.18\00:23:43.42 because I didn't want to lack. 00:23:43.45\00:23:45.49 Now, I'm in a position 00:23:45.52\00:23:46.86 where I don't have to worry about anything. 00:23:46.89\00:23:48.22 He provides everything I need, 00:23:48.26\00:23:49.69 my children don't lack anything. 00:23:49.72\00:23:51.26 You know, we're fed. We have a home. 00:23:51.29\00:23:54.06 you know, I drive a vehicle, and I have gas to put in it. 00:23:54.10\00:23:57.63 And I'm happier than I've been in my whole entire life. 00:23:57.67\00:24:01.47 I'm at peace with who I am, 00:24:01.50\00:24:02.87 I love myself more than I ever have. 00:24:02.90\00:24:05.27 And the love of God is what taught me, 00:24:05.31\00:24:07.64 that there's no greater love than God's love. 00:24:07.68\00:24:09.58 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. That is very true. 00:24:09.61\00:24:10.95 And He definitely showed me that nobody can love me 00:24:10.98\00:24:12.98 better than He can. 00:24:13.01\00:24:14.35 Oh, yeah, that's right. And that's that perfect love. 00:24:14.38\00:24:15.72 Perfect love, that agape love. Oh, yeah. 00:24:15.75\00:24:19.02 Now, you said you have a point, that you wanted to read, 00:24:19.05\00:24:21.52 and I want you to read this point at this time 00:24:21.56\00:24:24.43 and also the Bible text that you have. 00:24:24.46\00:24:27.26 And, you know, talk to the young people 00:24:27.30\00:24:29.23 that have been in your situation 00:24:29.26\00:24:31.67 who are going through things right now 00:24:31.70\00:24:34.17 and can't seem to find a way out of it. 00:24:34.20\00:24:36.60 Talk to those people right now and read that point. 00:24:36.64\00:24:40.04 Okay, "Response list. 00:24:40.08\00:24:43.31 To the adversity have faced from day to day. 00:24:43.35\00:24:46.15 The pain I still endure from my past mistakes. 00:24:46.18\00:24:49.42 The cries for my children due to void and absence. 00:24:49.45\00:24:52.89 The gossip, the backbiting, the drama and emotion intense. 00:24:52.92\00:24:56.76 Response list. 00:24:56.79\00:24:58.29 To failure and falling, disappointments and discontent, 00:24:58.33\00:25:01.86 to pressure and opinions of need to repent, 00:25:01.90\00:25:04.97 to watchful, hopeful, sinister filled spectators. 00:25:05.00\00:25:08.80 To cynical motives and lack of knowledge behaviors. 00:25:08.84\00:25:12.24 To comments, distrust and lack of loyalty. 00:25:12.27\00:25:15.11 To jealousy, envy, hate, and deceit from she and he. 00:25:15.14\00:25:18.45 Response lists. 00:25:18.48\00:25:19.88 To set attacks from the adversary, chains, 00:25:19.91\00:25:22.52 yokes, walls, darkness and spiritual tearing. 00:25:22.55\00:25:25.79 To close door's hardship and lack in finance. 00:25:25.82\00:25:28.82 Misfortune, setbacks and mindless ignorance. 00:25:28.86\00:25:32.06 To shame, pride and minimizing self-worth. 00:25:32.09\00:25:35.36 To thoughts and emotions used to pierce consistent her. 00:25:35.40\00:25:39.33 To confusion, loneliness, pity and tears. 00:25:39.37\00:25:42.44 To endes torture endure for many, many years. 00:25:42.47\00:25:45.67 Response list. 00:25:45.71\00:25:47.14 Because negativity is not worth my response. 00:25:47.18\00:25:50.05 Because if I respond, I'm taking on a lot. 00:25:50.08\00:25:52.85 Because I choose to live past my past and prosper my life. 00:25:52.88\00:25:56.18 Because I can see past what went wrong 00:25:56.22\00:25:57.92 and be thankful for what is going right. 00:25:57.95\00:26:00.12 Because happiness is no longer what appear tend to be 00:26:00.16\00:26:03.06 because my happiness and my joy lie deep within me. 00:26:03.09\00:26:06.23 Because in the midst of everything, 00:26:06.26\00:26:07.70 peace still remains still. 00:26:07.73\00:26:09.56 Because Christ paid the price and footed the bill. 00:26:09.60\00:26:12.30 Because I know who I am, it's whom I belong, 00:26:12.33\00:26:14.94 because my life has turned into a sweet poem 00:26:14.97\00:26:17.87 for when I was counted out God lifted me up. 00:26:17.91\00:26:20.51 And none of this I consider to be luck 00:26:20.54\00:26:23.41 because I'm more than blessed. 00:26:23.45\00:26:24.78 And my story is just beginning, 00:26:24.81\00:26:26.68 because God has already perfected my living. 00:26:26.72\00:26:29.72 Because He's given me a world of endless possibilities. 00:26:29.75\00:26:32.89 Because everything great already lies within me. 00:26:32.92\00:26:36.19 And I depend on Isaiah, 40:31 00:26:36.22\00:26:39.56 "Because those who wait on the Lord, 00:26:39.59\00:26:42.33 who expect, look for and hope in him 00:26:42.36\00:26:44.57 shall change or know their strength and power. 00:26:44.60\00:26:47.04 They shall lift their wings and mound up 00:26:47.07\00:26:49.24 as eagles mount up to the sun. 00:26:49.27\00:26:51.34 They shall run and not be weary. 00:26:51.37\00:26:52.87 They shall walk and not be faint or become tired." 00:26:52.91\00:26:55.94 So, God didn't say that the weight would be easy, 00:26:55.98\00:26:58.98 the weight is hard, 00:26:59.01\00:27:00.35 but He is definitely a loving God, 00:27:00.38\00:27:02.28 who will lift you up, and mount you up, 00:27:02.32\00:27:04.75 and allow you to prosper and still be successful 00:27:04.79\00:27:07.62 through everything that you go through. 00:27:07.66\00:27:09.42 Oh, yeah, God is good. Amen. 00:27:09.46\00:27:10.79 God is good and if, if more of us 00:27:10.83\00:27:12.43 would just turn to God. 00:27:12.46\00:27:14.53 And let go of the things of the world to realize 00:27:14.56\00:27:17.00 that Satan is just out to destroy us. 00:27:17.03\00:27:18.83 Absolutely. 00:27:18.87\00:27:20.20 There is a peace, a containment that you won't find 00:27:20.24\00:27:22.97 anywhere else except in Jesus Christ. 00:27:23.00\00:27:25.81 Britney, I like to thank you for being on the program. 00:27:25.84\00:27:28.38 Yes. Our time has slipped on by. 00:27:28.41\00:27:31.58 Viewers, we would like to thank you 00:27:31.61\00:27:33.15 for tuning into the New Journey. 00:27:33.18\00:27:35.68 Please be sure to tune in next week 00:27:35.72\00:27:38.39 for another exciting episode of the New Journey. 00:27:38.42\00:27:42.22 God be with you. 00:27:42.26\00:27:43.99