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Participants: Pr. Marquis Johns (Host), Rainbow Israel

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00:01 The following program discusses sensitive issues.
00:03 Parents are cautioned that some material
00:05 may be too candid for younger children.
00:08 Welcome to the New Journey,
00:09 a program about real life people
00:11 with real life testimonies,
00:13 doing real life ministry for Jesus Christ.
00:15 I'm your host, Pastor Marquis Johns.
00:17 Join us on the new journey.
00:54 God has gifted each of us
00:56 with a unique personal testimony
00:58 and it is through sharing that testimony
01:00 that we overcome the woes of the enemy.
01:03 With us today is such a person
01:04 that has a testimony like you will not believe.
01:07 Brother Rainbow Israel,
01:09 thank you for being with us on the new journey.
01:10 Thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be here.
01:12 Man, man, listen, I just want to get right into the story
01:15 but first start by telling us a little bit about
01:17 where you're from,
01:18 like where you were born, where you grew up
01:20 and give us a little background.
01:21 I was born in Mount Holly, New Jersey
01:23 by way of Camden.
01:25 Moved to Baltimore,
01:27 probably about six or seven months, years old
01:29 and then raised in Baltimore.
01:31 Happen to freak within California.
01:34 Okay, so at what age do you move out to California,
01:37 do you remember?
01:38 Thirteen. Thirteen. Thirteen.
01:39 So tell us about that
01:41 because you know I'm from Los Angeles.
01:42 Okay. Yeah. I'm from South Central.
01:43 So tell us a little bit about the move out to California.
01:46 What was that like for you?
01:48 It was rough for me
01:49 I think that was the beginning of my rebellious stage
01:51 because I didn't really want to leave Baltimore,
01:54 no family members out there, all my family here.
01:57 My mom decides to go on a spiritual journey,
01:59 so we moved to California,
02:01 happen to move to 52nd Street between Main and Broadway.
02:05 So I decided to become a Crip. Okay.
02:08 You know, so that whole experience
02:10 was just profound in itself.
02:12 So I grew up in a similar area.
02:15 What gang were you from?
02:17 Five Deuce Broadway Gangster group.
02:19 And that's interesting.
02:21 I was a Q102 East Coast Crip. Wow.
02:23 So right on the other side of 110, you know
02:26 and I remember when the East Coast
02:29 and the Broadway's at one point we were cool,
02:32 and then there was a point we got beat for one another,
02:34 so it's an interesting thing that we're sitting here now
02:37 in this life able to be brothers in Christ
02:40 because have we met back then there's a possibility
02:42 this would be a completely different conversation.
02:44 Might not have.
02:47 We might not have been here.
02:48 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
02:50 I see that.
02:52 So bless the Lord for conversion
02:54 and new creatures in Christ.
02:56 So you move out to California,
02:57 you get involved in the gang life,
03:00 what is that life for you?
03:01 What is it like being in California,
03:02 you're from Baltimore, you come out here yearning,
03:04 you know, you're going to California,
03:06 you're Crip now, what's that like?
03:08 It was very interesting
03:09 because I've always been a inquisitive kid,
03:13 so back then we had covatis cut with the short hair,
03:16 had a little waves.
03:17 So I'll go out there
03:18 with this different type of slang,
03:20 so they're intrigued by this little dude
03:22 who talks different then they found out Baltimore
03:24 and they say what's that?
03:26 You know, what is that Baltimore?
03:28 So you know going to school being chased home by the guys,
03:32 telling them what set you from gang and all
03:34 and I happened to be on this neighborhood
03:36 that their guy saw them running me home.
03:38 So they're like "oh, oh, what's going on with this?"
03:41 And then he introduced me to the gang say,
03:43 well, you need some protection, you need to join this gang.
03:45 So they made me go through the initiation,
03:47 you know, one line...
03:48 few line of this way and another line of this way
03:50 I'll run through, you know, me being little,
03:53 they didn't beat me up too bad,
03:54 you know, they let me feel some blows but...
03:57 Oh, but the next day, I went to school, oh yeah,
04:00 he said, let him bring you home,
04:01 let him run you home.
04:03 Let him chase me home, got to the strip,
04:05 turn around we got in, got it in, beat them all up,
04:08 had no problems ever since.
04:10 Yeah. Yeah.
04:11 And so how long do you live in California?
04:13 How long was the stay?
04:14 Six years. Okay.
04:16 So from thirteen to nineteen,
04:18 you were running in with the Broadway Gangster Crips,
04:20 living a gang life.
04:22 So were you at that point
04:25 introduced to the crack cocaine...
04:27 When did the drug, the drugs trafficking or usage
04:31 or when did that take place?
04:32 Well, it didn't happen until I came back to Baltimore,
04:35 but before that I got in trouble
04:37 with the law out there.
04:38 So being a juvenile
04:40 couldn't leave the state of California till I was 18.
04:42 Wind up being in these new forms, things like that
04:45 got saved, turned 18,
04:49 you know, got released from prison
04:51 was able to come back to Baltimore.
04:53 How long we were you in jail that time?
04:54 I probably was about maybe a year.
04:57 Okay, okay.
04:58 So that begins your stints in jail,
05:01 the little stints here and there.
05:03 Yes, yes.
05:04 So the first time you get any time in jail was in California?
05:06 Was in California. Okay.
05:07 So then you get out of jail,
05:09 you know, have an encounter with Christ
05:11 and then you move back to Baltimore?
05:13 That's when I got out. Okay.
05:16 That's when it got to ugly phase.
05:17 So tell us about the ugly phase.
05:18 How long this ugly phase last?
05:20 It lasts from like about 19 to age 26.
05:23 Okay.
05:25 So tell us, you get back to Baltimore...
05:26 Now, here's something I want to ask about because of...
05:28 I used to work at a home for At Rescue
05:31 and I was able to interact with a couple of people
05:34 who claim affiliation
05:35 with the Bloods and the Crips and is there a...
05:37 Was there when you came back out of Baltimore,
05:39 was there a gang culture
05:41 similar to what was going on in California?
05:45 Was there a gang culture or was there not one?
05:47 And if there was, what was the gang culture like out here
05:49 and how did it differ from that in California?
05:51 Well, it wasn't a gang culture back here.
05:54 I remember I used to tell my boys,
05:57 you know, about the gangs
05:58 and they would, they would be intrigued,
06:00 but now I see it start to rise and I was dumbfounded
06:05 because I was like, wow, all these years later,
06:07 you know, Baltimore is just catching on to this,
06:10 even though it's in a negative light
06:12 they're just catching on and so,
06:15 you know, it wasn't back then but now,
06:18 you know, they would gangbanger for all the wrong reasons
06:21 not to say the gangbanger has a good reason,
06:24 initially it did,
06:26 it was supposed to be for the good
06:27 of the neighborhood to bring brothers together
06:28 for a positive,
06:30 to help and put back to the neighborhood
06:32 but then it turned ugly specially
06:33 when the drugs got introduced.
06:35 So nowadays, these young guys back here
06:37 have no idea of why they're gangbanging
06:40 just because they see it on videos.
06:42 And see, one of the things that I found interesting
06:44 when I interacted with the young people
06:45 who profess to be Bloods or Crips
06:48 and this is something we didn't do in my era coming up.
06:50 I mean, it was about keeping your mouth shut,
06:52 snitches get stitches, the whole nine yards.
06:55 However now they tell me something
06:57 about this concept of knowledge books
07:00 and knowledge books is where they write down
07:01 all the gang lingo, all the gang culture
07:04 and when I first heard that I'm thinking,
07:05 man when I was coming up,
07:06 has somebody got that?
07:08 You know, the police, I mean...
07:09 that would have just been a catastrophe waiting to happen
07:12 but now they are transmitting all of the gang culture
07:17 and gang lingo to one another.
07:19 Have you had any interaction with people
07:20 who are into the knowledge,
07:22 you know, the gangbangers that are into knowledge books.
07:24 No, I'm from that era like you,
07:26 you know, we didn't have that back then,
07:28 the closest I came to
07:29 and I've seen a documentary on TV,
07:31 you know, it's like the book where they teach them
07:33 how to do these gang signs and also,
07:35 so that they can decipher the codes
07:38 that are sent through the mail to the inmates,
07:39 this how they monitor, they exactly have a team
07:43 now that's just designated to decipher gang lingo.
07:47 Wow, wow, wow. That's crazy, isn't it?
07:49 It is, it is because that is what,
07:51 I mean this would have never happen
07:52 when I was coming up like you wrote it down,
07:53 what's wrong with you?
07:55 That just go to show
07:56 the progression of the gang life, you know.
07:59 Being involved in a gang has gotten a little sophisticated,
08:02 yeah.
08:05 So you get back to Baltimore, 19 years of age.
08:08 Tell us about your re-introduction
08:10 to the Baltimore society and culture?
08:12 Oh, man, I was always...
08:14 In my youth I was always a follower
08:16 that's what I have to say,
08:18 and so whatever was the latest thing to do I did it,
08:20 and so I remember being introduced to a crack cocaine
08:23 because the powder cocaine never done that before.
08:26 You now follow the trend,
08:27 you put it on your gums and you sniff.
08:30 You walk around my gums numb, my nose numb.
08:33 You ain't get no enjoyment out of that.
08:34 So you know the crack cocaine came tried it,
08:38 didn't know what to expect.
08:40 You know, but that being introduced
08:43 kind of hook me, man,
08:44 and I just went back and forth for that
08:46 and then everything went downhill man,
08:48 I became a crack head, dolophine,
08:50 blackout drinker, drug dealer, ex con,
08:53 tried everything that you can imagine
08:55 just to get high up on pills, everything.
08:57 How was your family responded to this,
08:59 what was your relationship like with your family?
09:00 I know with my mom when she started using drugs,
09:03 I mean, I mean, we live a bunch of different places,
09:07 she stole from people.
09:10 There were a couple of occasions
09:11 where I remember waking up in the middle of the night
09:14 and my mom is literally in a fight with a guy.
09:17 She's standing in the living room
09:18 both of them are stark naked.
09:19 And they're fighting
09:21 and she's hitting him with the axe and kill him.
09:24 And I'm getting my brothers and rushing,
09:26 you know, over to the neighbor's house
09:28 because she has, you know, promised him,
09:31 you know, sex if he bought the dope.
09:35 And now that they didn't have the dope
09:37 and he's trying to cash in on his hands
09:38 and she's like, no, I ain't going down
09:40 but that caused our relationship to be strained
09:44 and it strained a lot of her relationships
09:46 with other people.
09:48 How was your family responding to your crack addiction?
09:50 Man at first...
09:52 Excuse me at first they thought it was just alcohol
09:54 but you know, that crack takes a toll on you
09:57 when you get real skinny, you don't eat,
10:00 you know, you don't want to wash and bathe,
10:02 and so it became fragmented,
10:04 I started stealing from family members, friends,
10:07 you know, I will go up to the drug boys,
10:09 you know, they will put the dope out,
10:10 I will snatch it and run,
10:12 you know, God literally carrying me,
10:13 bullets flying pass my ears.
10:16 You know, I remember feeling that,
10:17 I know it had to be some angels man
10:19 because I was running so fast,
10:20 a couple steps I didn't even hit the ground,
10:22 you know, when I fell and I slit my hand
10:24 and you would think that once I got home,
10:27 I would nurse the wounds first, right?
10:29 No, it was get high first then nurse the wounds.
10:31 So you know, that crack cocaine is definitely a mind drug,
10:35 you know, like heroin it affects your physical body
10:38 but that crack man, they say you just chasing that one out
10:41 that you can never reclaim.
10:42 And chasing that first high.
10:43 So you start doing time in prison
10:47 when you're in California.
10:48 I'm sure that with this growing crack addiction,
10:53 prison becomes a reality,
10:55 explain to us about you going in and out of the jail system
10:58 as a crack head and as a dolophine
11:00 and all the other things you described so far?
11:02 Well, when I was introduced
11:05 to the prison system in Maryland,
11:06 I went in a full blown crack head per se,
11:08 you know, I was just still
11:10 dibbling and dabbling the things
11:11 and I will always do small time
11:13 like a year here six months there,
11:15 18 months here and there,
11:17 so you know, was just trying to come back out
11:19 and just you know, you make up a lot of false hopes
11:24 when you're in prison.
11:25 I'm going to do xyz but then when you get out,
11:28 reality sets in and you kind of,
11:29 you don't have a support,
11:31 you kind of fall back to the same old ways.
11:33 So that's basically how my little cycle was.
11:35 So from 18, you said to about 26,
11:39 you're struggling with crack going in and out of jail
11:43 a year here, six months there, 18 months here
11:45 and this is after being brought up in Camden,
11:49 introduce, you know, Baltimore City about 19,
11:51 go to California join the Broadway Gangster Crips,
11:54 live that gang lifestyle for a while,
11:57 come back to Baltimore
11:58 get swallowed up into the crack cocaine
12:00 that it just swept through the nation
12:02 and is claiming lives left and right.
12:05 After that you start going in and out of jail,
12:07 you're stealing from crack dealers,
12:09 you're stealing from family members
12:11 and this last from 18 to 26.
12:14 What happened when you were 26
12:16 that began if you will the turning point in your life?
12:20 Well, my mom, she was a traveling missionary.
12:22 You know, that's how we got to California so...
12:25 I came to my wit's end because I was like,
12:28 I need to stop this,
12:30 you know, my life was really going down here
12:31 when I tried to commit suicide that didn't happen.
12:35 And so my mom, she came off the mission field
12:38 and she saw me, I came in the house that night,
12:40 man, half of my hair was shaved bald,
12:42 half I had hair on it
12:44 because my family kicked me out of our body to finish off,
12:47 so I couldn't complete the cycle.
12:49 And my mom looked at me man, she said...
12:52 I was homeless, jobless, penniless.
12:53 My grandma was standing there
12:55 in the senior citizens building.
12:56 So that's where I'd stand with
12:57 because I burned my bridges through my family.
13:00 My mom looked at me and saying, man, go to bed,
13:02 got to deal with you in the morning.
13:03 The next morning, she looked at me
13:05 gave me some words in the Bible.
13:07 God told me I was lawless,
13:08 you know, I need to get my way back to him,
13:11 plus we gonna fast three days, three nights
13:13 to break that cycle of addiction,
13:15 to break that stronghold that Satan has on me,
13:18 and that was in February of 1991.
13:21 And I was 26 years old, man, I've been drug free ever since.
13:24 Ever since the three day fast?
13:26 Ever since the three day fast.
13:28 Fast from food?
13:29 Totally abstinence.
13:30 Fast from water? Totally abstinence.
13:32 Fasts from crack cocaine? Totally abstinence.
13:34 You just... everything for three days
13:35 straight to nothing?
13:36 Totally abstinence.
13:38 And I was ready, I was ready,
13:39 because I knew whatever God say,
13:41 I was ready 'cause I know He's real
13:43 I was running from Him, you know, so I welcome that,
13:45 man, it was a wonderful thing
13:47 and just so happened that a lady
13:49 that lived in my grandmother's senior citizen building
13:51 had a church and it was having revival
13:53 for these next three days.
13:55 Okay. So, okay, good.
13:57 This is good, this is good, this is good.
13:58 So three day fast, complete abstinence.
14:01 No bread, water, nothing, no drugs,
14:04 then right after the fast is over,
14:06 there's a revival happening at a local church?
14:08 No, during the fast. During the fast?
14:10 During the three days. Okay.
14:11 Had to have me something to keep me occupied
14:13 that's how good God is, you know, so those three days,
14:16 three nights have revival and I was there every night.
14:19 And then I can just feel God just rejuvenating me
14:22 and I'm in there, I'm praising the Lord,
14:24 I'm just, I'm just being rejuvenated.
14:26 And so when the fast end,
14:28 my mom getting ready to go back on a mission field.
14:30 Remember, I'm still homeless, jobless, penniless,
14:33 all of a sudden I don't notice, she said something,
14:35 you got an appointment
14:36 with Salvation Army in the morning.
14:38 You need to go down there.
14:40 And so they gonna give you a new analysis test
14:43 to make sure you clean.
14:44 Look how good God.
14:46 That was the fast it was all about,
14:47 not just to break the stronghold
14:49 but to have me clean
14:50 so I can enter the Salvation Army.
14:53 And I stayed there for six months man,
14:54 got my life back together, got on my feet.
14:57 Okay, okay. That was wonderful.
14:58 Okay. Okay. I like the smile...
15:00 When I think about it, hey, that saved,
15:03 God saved my life, man
15:04 because I was on a one way ticket down.
15:06 Right, right, right. Okay.
15:08 So now you're clean and you've been
15:12 in the Salvation Army for six months,
15:14 life is together, clean, mind on spiritual things,
15:19 what does God need, want Rainbow to do then?
15:22 What's the next, what's the next kind of act?
15:24 Now to be honest because I love to be honest.
15:27 God wanted me to surrender and submit to Him.
15:30 I wanted to rap now because that's what
15:32 I did in the secular world.
15:33 So I wanted to rap, He said, now you need to put that down.
15:36 Man, there's thousand and one rappers,
15:38 I need somebody with some substance,
15:39 I need somebody to live what they're saying.
15:42 So he told me to put that up so you know the next ten years,
15:45 He started to make me and mold me and shape me
15:47 but in between time around 2003,
15:50 He allowed me to go back into the prison
15:52 and start preaching in a prison.
15:54 So you want to rap after six months.
15:57 You're like, okay, now I'm gonna do this rap game thing,
15:59 but God is like, no, I need you to sit down
16:02 and so for ten years you weren't doing the music.
16:03 What were you doing during that ten year period of time?
16:05 Actually I was letting God make me, man.
16:08 I was doing my best to live by His Word,
16:11 you know, no drinking, no drugging, no fornicating,
16:14 I'm just living by His Word to the best
16:17 and my ability and just let Him make me
16:21 and I fell back, you know,
16:23 once I got off the Salvation Army,
16:24 I went to a recovery house,
16:26 there for about six months trying to get a job.
16:29 The wreckage of my past came up,
16:31 you know, my uncle called me one day
16:33 and said man, a policeman looking for you,
16:35 they got a warrant for your arrest.
16:36 I'm just like, oh no, so you know, gosh,
16:39 you have to turn yourself in,
16:40 so I will stay with my grandmother
16:42 off and on in senior citizen building
16:44 and I had to go to Emerson and...
16:46 I can't remember it should be Emerson Avenue
16:48 and something and they pulled up in a truck,
16:51 jumped out on me with the guns drawn
16:54 but they looked at my arrest picture
16:56 and they looked at me
16:57 and they looked at the arrest picture again
16:59 and then they looked at me and they put the guns down
17:03 and said turn around and one said,
17:05 no, turn to the front and handcuff me in the front.
17:08 And the guys said, man,
17:09 whatever you're doing keep doing,
17:11 but we gotta take you in.
17:13 Right.
17:14 Helping me now and say you want to cigarette?
17:15 And I started to say, yes, and was like, no.
17:18 You know, so the wreckage of my past caught up,
17:20 I had to serve that time, came home...
17:22 How much time was that? About a year.
17:24 Okay. I came home...
17:26 And because of the wreckage in the past
17:27 I was staying with a family member.
17:29 And I didn't get a job as fast
17:31 as they would like to see me get a job.
17:33 So they stopped giving me bus money,
17:35 so I walked around my old neighborhood
17:38 and it was a open air drug market,
17:40 and I was looking and I was like,
17:41 wow, I don't use it no more.
17:44 I can get some money.
17:46 And you know, one thing led to another,
17:48 I started selling the crack
17:49 and things start going well for me,
17:52 you know, everything like that then I got arrested.
17:54 Now I'm clear now, I've got a clear mind
17:57 I'm still in the backseat in this thing,
17:59 but I've got a clear mind.
18:00 So when I got arrested I said,
18:02 Oh Lord, I know what you're doing.
18:04 I said, I surrender, you get me out of this,
18:06 I'm running for you.
18:08 And so I was sentenced to five years with possession
18:12 with intent to distribute crack cocaine.
18:14 Served two years, eight months, six days, ten hours,
18:17 forty five minutes and made up in my mind,
18:20 Lord, I'm running for me from here on now,
18:22 you know, I was released and I came home flat footed man
18:25 and you know joined a local church
18:27 and they start letting God build me up.
18:29 And then I was introduced to the prison ministry in 2003.
18:33 So in 2003, God introduce you to prison ministry.
18:36 Tell me about that introduction?
18:38 I was telling the gentleman earlier,
18:40 we started going to the institution
18:43 and I was just going as a lay member.
18:45 You know just going to enjoy the service.
18:47 So the elder from Miracle Temple said,
18:49 I want you to preach next month.
18:50 I said, okay, fine. So I preached next month.
18:53 Then we came back the next month,
18:55 he said, we want you to preach again next month.
18:56 I said, okay, fine, I preached again.
18:59 Not thinking that is going to be mild,
19:00 I just come and enjoy the service, he said,
19:01 God told me to tell you that
19:03 you are the preacher from here on now.
19:05 I said really?
19:07 But I made a promise to God like 26 years ago
19:10 in the same institution that I go back to now,
19:12 I said Lord, you getting me out of this now...
19:14 Now wait, wait, wait.
19:15 So you're now going back to the place
19:17 that you had once served time in?
19:19 Yes.
19:20 And so God has seen fit after all of,
19:22 all of the foolishness that you got yourself involved
19:25 in running away from Him,
19:26 you ended up in a jail that God now is saying, listen,
19:29 I want you to go back
19:30 and almost talk to the person you were
19:33 when you were here.
19:34 Yes, sir. Okay, okay, okay.
19:35 So now you're doing prison ministry and you have...
19:40 Initially wanted to do the rap that rap thing, God said,
19:42 nah, nah, nah, no rap thing for you.
19:45 And so while you're doing prison ministry,
19:47 does God ever come back around
19:48 and say, okay, now you might be ready for that?
19:51 Yes, He did.
19:53 And then you know, look I thought
19:54 I wouldn't had I'm thinking,
19:55 you know, where is this coming from?
19:57 You know, does I had to a check myself,
19:58 is this self ambition or you know
20:00 because I don't want to, I don't want to disobey,
20:02 man, he bought me from the gutter.
20:04 So I heard Him say, I need you to pick up
20:05 the music ministry now.
20:07 So and I ignored it for like a year
20:11 and He said, Rainbow, I need you to start a ministry
20:14 and this time around He brought everything to me.
20:17 What no effort going to seek this,
20:19 going to seek that, going to seek tracks,
20:21 studio time everything
20:22 just fell in my lap from the church.
20:24 Everything just fell in my lap,
20:26 and then so I just started the ministry
20:28 and produced the CD
20:30 which is called now I understand.
20:31 So now I have a full fledged music ministry as well
20:35 and look, just this year, man,
20:36 God blessed me to have a catalog
20:39 to go into the institution that I'm preaching
20:41 so the Emmys can purchase it doing their package CDs.
20:43 Mercy, mercy. That's a blessing.
20:45 Now here's what I want to ask,
20:47 how long have you been doing the prison ministry?
20:49 About how long? Ten years.
20:50 Ten years? Next year it will be ten years.
20:52 Next year it will be ten years.
20:53 Rainbow, have you had an opportunity
20:54 where you are going to the prisons
20:57 and you meet someone in jail
20:59 who's in either a similar situation worse
21:02 or slightly better, I mean,
21:04 that's very relative than you were
21:06 when you were there
21:07 and have been able to establish a relationship with them
21:09 and see them be rehabilitated and come out
21:13 and be a productive member of society?
21:14 Have you had that experience?
21:16 No, not yet. Okay.
21:17 Because most of the inmates where I met,
21:20 they have a lot of times in,
21:21 they're not going away and the other ones,
21:25 so we minister to Adventists, predominately Hispanic.
21:29 So the other guys the first day which are lot of black inmates,
21:32 I'll see them coming and going and we have a relationship
21:36 but it's nothing where I can keep in contact with them.
21:39 Although I see God is expanding that
21:40 because the chaplain asked me to do start come in
21:44 and doing concerts, many concerts now
21:46 that's going to invite all of them.
21:48 So I get to interact with some of them.
21:50 So eventually, you know, they've been reaching out,
21:52 you know, where you stay, can I give you my number,
21:54 can I give you my information?
21:55 So I have to be kind of careful
21:56 because of the prison institution,
21:58 you know, and some of their rules
22:00 but I kind of see that coming in the future though.
22:02 So here's the story thus far
22:04 is young man grows up little bit in Baltimore,
22:08 born in Camden goes out to California
22:11 joins the Crips gang.
22:12 Yeah.
22:14 Bangs in Cali for about six years.
22:16 Does a year in jail,
22:18 gives him a kind of a wakeup call.
22:19 Yes. He goes back to Baltimore.
22:21 Family moves back to Baltimore
22:23 when he gets there the drug epidemic
22:25 that is sweeping the nation sweeps him up with it,
22:28 become a crack head from the ages of 19 to 26.
22:32 Stealing from families, stealing from drug,
22:34 in and out of jail.
22:36 And it was seen as though there was no hope,
22:38 absolutely no hope for you,
22:40 and then your mother shows up
22:41 from the mission field three day prayer,
22:44 fast, going to a revival, God renews you,
22:48 pulls you out of darkness, calls you into light
22:51 and now you're doing prison ministry
22:52 for the last ten years.
22:54 I mean, when you,
22:55 when you think about that story,
22:56 when you put that all together,
22:58 Rainbow, like how does that make you feel?
23:00 How does that make you feel seeing where God,
23:01 where you were,
23:03 where God intersected with your life?
23:05 Where He's brought you from? And where you are now?
23:08 Grateful.
23:11 You know sometimes get prideful.
23:14 You know sometimes you know, ego and pride sets in the way
23:17 but God always has a way of humbling.
23:20 You know to let me know, Rainbow,
23:22 you haven't done anything, it's about me.
23:25 You know, case in point, I came out from prison,
23:28 I was home about a year
23:30 and I had a job doing residential counseling.
23:33 And so you know, I could have done
23:35 something different I had to restrain the child
23:38 and so you know, they said, we want temporarily you off
23:40 but you know what that means?
23:41 That's just until we lay you off.
23:43 And so...
23:46 Pastor at my church that I was attending
23:47 at the time worked with state highway administration
23:50 and he said man,
23:51 you need to get down here with your heart.
23:54 And so I prayed about it and God told me to go down.
23:57 He said remember you're not doing anything, I'm doing this.
23:59 So I'm home from prison a year.
24:02 So I go down there, fill out the application,
24:03 you know, you get to that point.
24:05 Have you ever been convicted of a crime?
24:07 If so, please explain. So I say, yes.
24:09 If so please explain. I left a blank.
24:12 Went home God beat me up, He said, did not I tell you
24:14 you're not in control with nothing.
24:16 You go back tomorrow, get that application
24:18 and put on that what you was incarcerated for.
24:20 I'm showing you my power.
24:23 So the next day I went back, I said I want to submit
24:25 some information off the application
24:26 can I please have it back?
24:28 So the lady personnel standing over me.
24:29 So I wrote possession with intent to distribute cocaine,
24:32 five years, I've been there 13 years.
24:38 So, you know, and during that time,
24:40 I said that to say sometimes pride sets in,
24:43 that's the time I get little arrogant
24:45 but God has a way of humbling but when I look at
24:47 the total whisperers on a day to day basis,
24:50 especially going into the institution
24:51 I think that's why he did that for me
24:53 because that always humbles me when I walk through that door.
24:57 Here's what I want to do now.
24:58 You're going into a local prison
25:00 and God is using you to speak life into people
25:02 who only see that
25:04 but through this broadcast God can now take that story
25:08 to prisons you may never be able to physically visit,
25:11 but I want you to do is, I want you to look at
25:13 this camera right here
25:14 and I want you to speak to someone in a prison
25:17 who has maybe a similar situation as you
25:20 and explain to them the hope that God has given you.
25:22 Take about the next minute and a half
25:24 just talk to the camera.
25:26 I want you to just look at me. Just look at me, man.
25:30 Ex crack head, dolophine, blackout drinker, drug dealer,
25:33 ex con, suicidal thoughts,
25:35 trying to kill myself still here.
25:38 God is no respecter of persons,
25:39 if He did it for me He can do it for you.
25:42 Even when you don't want to do, He has a plan
25:44 and a call for your life, He can do it.
25:46 It just takes faith, size of a mustard seed.
25:49 I know it may sound like a cliche
25:51 but listen, it doesn't have to be a cliche for you.
25:54 You put it into action hold on to his unchanging hand
25:57 and God will bring you through no matter what it looks like,
26:00 no matter how many people are down,
26:02 no matter how many people against you.
26:04 Amen, God can bring you out
26:06 and you can shine like pure gold.
26:09 That is crazy because I believe that
26:12 so many people who get themselves
26:15 into those situations, Rainbow,
26:17 don't feel like there is any opportunity
26:20 because once you start,
26:21 once you start stealing from family and you,
26:23 like you said you burn those bridges,
26:26 there never seems to way there never seems
26:28 to be a way back over the bridge
26:30 you've learned to the lives that you have ran from,
26:33 but God sometimes can intervene
26:36 and builds bridges where you destroy them.
26:39 He does.
26:40 And what He has done
26:41 and what your story demonstrates for us is that
26:43 God, you know, we've heard this phrase going around
26:46 can take you from the guttermost
26:47 to the uttermost.
26:48 Yes sir. From the pit to the palace.
26:50 Yes.
26:51 Here you are now sitting, I mean,
26:53 well dressed, look good.
26:55 And I think that someone who sees you now
26:58 would never know that
26:59 that's the lifestyle that you were in.
27:02 They would never know that,
27:03 similar to when the police officers
27:05 pulled up on you jumped out and said, hey, wait, wait...
27:08 Is this the right guy? Is this the right guy.
27:10 And, Rainbow, that is indeed an encouragement not only,
27:16 hear me, I don't think it's an encouragement
27:17 only for the inmate or the crack head
27:20 or for the blackout drinker.
27:21 I think it's an encouragement
27:23 for those who've never experienced any of those things
27:25 because I sometimes tell people
27:27 when sharing my personal testimony,
27:28 the great testimonies that I hear not to say
27:31 that ours have been a similar testimony as yours,
27:34 not to say that ours is any less valuable
27:36 or any less powerful
27:38 but the one that's a powerful to me
27:39 having been where I've been is the person
27:42 who says I've never drank anything.
27:44 I've never smoked anything, I've never been to jail
27:47 because to me I wonder what power did you have
27:51 that enabled you to make it through
27:52 the same amount of years that I've made it through
27:55 without doing any of the things that I've done.
27:57 And so your story gives hope to that person as well,
28:00 give strength to them
28:02 because they know that like marijuana
28:04 can be a gateway drug,
28:06 petty theft can be a gateway crime.
28:07 And so somebody watching this show right now
28:11 is probably being able to be uplifted
28:14 and see that God can and will give you a testimony
28:18 not just for the building up of yourself,
28:20 not just for pride and arrogance,
28:22 not just for you to say look at what I've done
28:25 and look at what I have accomplished
28:26 but so that you can share that testimony with someone
28:30 and exemplify what the Bible says
28:31 in Revelation 12:11,
28:34 "And they overcame by the blood of the Lamb
28:37 and by the word of their testimony."
28:40 God is giving somebody a testimony
28:44 that you can encourage someone else.
28:46 Rainbow, I like to thank you for being on our show today.
28:49 Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.
28:50 God bless you for sharing with us the old journey
28:52 as well as the new journey.
28:53 Thank you. God bless. God bless.


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