Welcome to The New Journey, a
program about real live people
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with real life testimonies doing
real life ministry for Jesus
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Christ. I'm your host, Pastor
Marquis Johns. Join us on The
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New Journey. ¤ ¤
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Jesus tells us that he came
to set the captives free and on
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today's program we have just
such a captive who is now free.
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Jeffrey, how
are you doing today?
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I'm doing wonderful.
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Fantastic, Fantastic. Why don't
you go ahead and tell us your
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name and tell us
where you're from.
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My name is Jeffrey Cobb. I live
now in Gainesville, Florida, but
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originally I'm
from Miami, Florida.
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OK that's all right with me.
So now I need you to take us and
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walk us through Jeffrey Cobb,
Gainesville, Florida to the life
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that you eventually led and have
been liberated from. Just walk
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us through the early phases
and stages of that experience.
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When I was about 15 years old
I was in the church, living for
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Christ and what happened, my
older brother, he got involved
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with drugs; selling drugs,
running with the women. So I
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wanted to get involved
with that. So sooner or later he
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introduced me the drug game.
After that there, the enemy just
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took me deeper and deeper into
the drug game where I was with
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organizations. I also robbed,
kidnapped, shoot outs, down with
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crooked judges, lawyer and
police officers for 20 years
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of my life. So you
were in the drug game now
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I have a little background
in the drug game myself but help
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us understand the extent
that you were in the drug game.
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I mean there are guys nowadays,
now lets just keep it real, just
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me and you talking. There are
guys in the drug game now that
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say they were in the drug game
because they stood on the corner
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and chopped down a quarter piece
or something like that. When I
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quarter I mean just a small
portion of cocaine. Tell us the
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extent that you
were in the drug game.
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I in to the extent our widow
organization, we were really
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making over $70,000 a night.
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My lord, my lord, my lord.
So $70,000 a night. Now you said
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drug game which people think
the requisite is kidnapping and
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shoot outs. Tell us how much
of that were you involved in?
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Now again, you and I talked just
briefly before the show. We want
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to get deep today. We want
to get deep so that our audience
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and our viewers understand
the extent that someone can have
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been in something but then can
be delivered from it. Go ahead.
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All my friends that I used
to hang with in my Miami days
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are dead except one and he has
life in prison. When he went to
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court the judge gave him life
because he said he thought he
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had license to kill people.
So when the other one just got
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buried three weeks ago in Miami,
they found him in the lake in
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his car with a bullet in
the back of his head. That's the
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type of people, these were my
close friends, that I hung out
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with every day in my life.
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OK so were you ever up close and
personal with not just a drug
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gang but some of the other
things, the other things that
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you're telling us, the shoot
outs, the kidnappings, whatever,
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up close and
personal on that stuff?
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Oh yes, yes. I was in the middle
of it. You know that was my life
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As a matter of fact, when we
did drug houses, I was the one
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that would go in and establish
these houses in different parts
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of Miami. Oh wow,
oh wow. We have this
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young man, Gainesville, Florida,
15 years old, his brother gets
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into the drug gang. He decides
of course, like most of do, to
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follow our big brother's foot
steps. So here we are following
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our big brother's footsteps. We
find ourself in a life of drugs
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crime, kidnappings, shoot
outs. What was this doing to you
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internally and personally.
I mean at 15 years of age
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you get into this type of
life style. I mean, are you just
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enjoying the
ride or is there some
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inner turmoil
that's taking place?
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Oh it was just you know, I
believe in what you do be the
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best at it. So I wanted to be
the best. I wanted to be known
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for that. So I
can imagine, because I
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remember growing up and getting
into selling drugs and stuff.
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And one of the reasons why
I started selling drugs was
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because my mother, who was on
drugs, was constantly getting us
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into debt. No lights, no ability
to wash our clothes or anything
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like that. So when the big
homies put something in my hand
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it wasn't for me to get cute and
fly, it was to make sure that my
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little brothers had something to
eat. So now that did bring with
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it a level of notoriety, if you
will, because now I got on the
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nice little, back when we wore
Nike Cortez and khaki suits.
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So now we got on the nice Nike
Cortez, we've got on the Khaki
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suits and the girls at the
junior high school and the high
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school were looking at us.
Was there a certain amount of
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notoriety that came, because you
said you wanted to be the best
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at it. So was you name just
ringing throughout the city for
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what you were doing and what
you were known to be a part of?
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Yes, the whole south end of
Miami, like from about Universal
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Miami all the way back down
south. You know, we were known
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where if anybody needed any
drugs. I mean I have sold to
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professional football players
and all that stuff. We got high
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together. Again,
and I want to go deep
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with you here, tell us, walk
us through again, not just OK if
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they wanted to get drugs, they
knew this, they knew that, tell
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us what was the word on the
street about Jeffrey Cobb? I'm
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sure that's not what
they called your name.
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No you never used your
real name. So tell us what did
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someone know about a Jeffrey
Cobb, like at that stage and
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how long did this take
place, from 15 to what age?
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To 35. So from 15
to 35 when the name,
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or the name associated with,
Jeffrey Cobb came up what was
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the conversation
like? What would people say?
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It was the conversation was hey
any kind of drugs you need you
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can go to him and get it but
he was dealing with his two best
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friends who were two of the
most dangerous guys in Miami.
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So you knew, and everyone knew
that if they ran across Jeffrey
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Cobb that they could get any
type of drug they wanted, but
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also be careful because if
it went there it could go bad.
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It's the consequences.
I remember an incident
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of one of my friends, the one
that got life in prison, me and
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a guy got in an argument and I
just left it alone and went on.
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And then my guys called and said
hey man you're partner done draw
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the gun and finished shooting
this guy and he didn't have
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nothing to do with it. He just
heard me and this guy got into
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it. That's the way we were
believed in one thing in Miami,
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when you say you've got a
person's back they mean they
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have a person's back.
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So now we're selling drugs
and there's an age-old adage or
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warning, don't get high off
your own supply. Did you find
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yourself dabbling in any of the
drugs that you were now moving?
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Yes, I became my best customer.
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Tell us about that.
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Most of the average people,
two things happen to you. You
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get killed or you become your
own customer, best own customer
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and I started dibbing and
dabbing with the girls. But
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what happened was my brother,
the one that I looked up to as
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my god, he got killed on a
motorcycle. So enough of that.
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I saw him. He was coming
back to me. He got killed on a
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motorcycle. So right then that
was my god, that was everything.
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And after that I
started using my own products.
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So now wait a minute. When
you say that he got killed, did
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someone kill him or did he
have a motorcycle accident?
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A motorcycle accident.
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OK, did you start with marijuana
or did you go straight into...
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because they say that marijuana
is a gateway drug, OK. So did
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you start with marijuana
and then move into doing cocaine
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doing a little powder or then
crack. I mean, was it a gradual
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progression or after that
happened you jumped right into
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crack cocaine or snorting?
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No, it was a gradual situation
where I wasn't getting high at
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the time. Matter of fact, I was
in high school and I was the top
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running back in football in
Miami. After that I took the
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drug game and after that I
started doing the marijuana and
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then after that because that was
my all. So then I went to the
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powder cocaine,
then I went to the crack.
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So now that we're using the
crack cocaine... One thing I
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noted growing up in L.A. you
know you have a bunch of guys
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that are from a certain hood,
I hung around my uncle who was
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one of the Crypts and I was
an east coast Crip. Now my uncle
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was from the Over Crypts. They
had stripes. I'm talking hard
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core stripes, well known for
putting hands on you, well known
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for shooting the cat down,
but then when the crack hit the
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streets and they became crack
heads, the guys that used to
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look up to them now saw them
as weak and enfeebled and preyed
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on them. Did any of that happen
with you where the guys who were
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once feared you, now they see
that Jeff is now using his own
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stuff and he's out there as a
dope fiend. Did anybody say you
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know what we can take him
now. Did you have guys lose the
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respect they one had? Did that
aura get dimmed, that invincible
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aura, was it dimmed at all?
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Absolutely. Once I got to that
state they was like OK. Because
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once you start getting high on
your drugs, you lose all respect
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You know you're not sharp as you
used to be. And you're getting
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older and you've got the
younger cats coming and they
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want that spot. They want to be
known because we hold that down
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for a long time, a long time.
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Again, and I like to paint a
picture. So we have this young
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man, Gainesville, Florida, his
brother gets into the drug game,
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15 years old, even though he's
well on his way to being one of
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the top running backs in
the area, he gets into the drug
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game. There's an air of
invincibility that accompanies
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him and his crew that he's
running with. He's dabbling in
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the drug game, selling a
number of different drugs and
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eventually succumbs to an
addiction himself. That air of
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invincibility is now tainted.
How did you keep up with your
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addiction and your habit if now
you're not the top dog anymore?
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What happened, you know, the
enemy opened up after that it
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was the older guy that kind
of took me under his wings and
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I'm talking about he was in an
organization like I said before
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with police officers. We used
to go to clubs and get high.
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So once he opened the door I was
like OK. Because these that boat
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loads. They don't want that
bringing in. So right then it
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was like OK I aren't got to pay
for nothing. You know it's free.
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I want to go back to something.
I hadn't just skipped over this
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on purpose. I wanted to come
back to this. So you're telling
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me you're in an organization
where you're getting drugs from
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police officers. It was rumored
around my way. I went to a
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school called Hyde Park
Elementary, well known hangout
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spot for the Rollin 60s and
Crypts. My cousin was a Rollin
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60 Crip. He's now resting
in peace, he's now dead. In the
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height of the 80s, I'm an 80s
baby myself, well born and lived
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through the 80s, in the height
of the 80s it was said that some
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of the drug dealers around the
area could have, if necessary,
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gotten a fighter plane
for someone. This is how well
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connected they were through
the government who were bringing
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these, like you said, boatloads
of cocaine into the states.
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So you're telling me you were
rubbing shoulders with some of
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these very same guys.
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Same guys. Same guys. Like
you say 1980, if you look back
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that's whenever the drugs were
coming in so plenty into Miami
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and it was taken to Atlanta. And
they had others who in Atlanta
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were saying we want the
guys from Miami out of Atlanta
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because of the killing, the
murder rate, all that went up.
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And so whenever anybody needed
those articles, whether through
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one, two, three, or four degrees
of separation are related to a
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Jeffrey Cobb. Yes, yes.
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OK. So now the drug game,
the killing, the kidnapping
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eventually leads to one place.
We always say this, there are no
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retired drug dealers. Right.
You end up one place dead or in
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jail. You're alive, so I'm
assuming that you're passage
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here led through
jail. Tell us about that.
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Yes, it was one thing when I was
out there when I came into my
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addiction, I knew there was a
better life but I couldn't put
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my hands on it. I couldn't put
my hand on it and then you know
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as I kept going and what
happened on my last episode, I
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sold to undercover. But what I
did, I robbed undercover. I sold
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him the dope and took the dope
and the money. So I was on the
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run and what happened there, I
had a daughter that was 10 years
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and she walked up to me. I just
give her money, hey Babe. She
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was like Daddy you going to
always leave me, keep leaving
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me. Then right then something
hit me that said, I'm supposed
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to be telling her but like she's
got more sense than me. Then
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right then registered to me and
what I did, I went and turned
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myself in to the
police department.
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Wow, turn yourself in is a
big thing. I remember having a
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little case hanging over my
head they said you got to turn
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yourself in. I waited as long
as I could. So did you do one
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prison stint or
multiple. Tell us about that.
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All right. They have seven
detention centers in Miami.
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I did time in six of six months
or better and I have been to
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prison four times.
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OK, so now you've been to prison
four times. What was the longest
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time that you were
in there? Five years.
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Five year. So was this
during, after or before the drug
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addiction? It was in the middle.
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So did you ever do any time
while you were at the height of
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your trafficking? No
because when you're with this
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type of organization, you know,
police officers, they let you
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know what's happening, what
time of day, you know it is.
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As a matter of fact, most of
the officers that were in the
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organization, they got busted
and went to prison. They turned
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into users too. Wow,
wow. In California when you
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go to jail, there's an
understanding, if you will, that
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Bloods and Crypts and in
Southern California there's what
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we call the South Siders. Then
the South Siders, when you're
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going to jail, you have an
understanding that the blacks,
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until you get to state where's
there a BGF, Black Family and
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all of that when you're in
county, man, there's the Bloods,
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there's the Crypts, there's the
South Siders, there's the
Poisons, there's the
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White Boys and each person they
kind of click with one another.
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So when we get in jail
Bloods and Crypts know we're out
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numbered by the Hispanics about
four or five to one. So we click
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up. Irrespective of if I didn't
like you on the street, you may
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have been a Blood on the street,
I'm a Crip on the street, when
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we get to the county, boy, we
got to click up because we know
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we're outnumbered by the
Hispanics. Now I don't know in
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your day if the Bloods and
Crypts had spread to Miami, but
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was there a
similar feel in jail?
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Right, it was similar because
there were certain cells that
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the officers wouldn't put you
in. They'd say no don't put him
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in there because they have
certain floors that certain guys
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were in. You know when I went
in there it was a cell called B4
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That was all the big drug
dealers. So I went right in
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there. When I went in there and
one of the guys that was real up
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there, he was like hey man,
I always wanted to hire you but
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you was too crazy man. You was
too loose, man you didn't fear
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nothing. So I went
in that cell with them.
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OK because what I'm alluding to
and what I'm trying to draw out
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of you here is how was it
surviving having been at the top
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falling from the top in prison.
Sometimes when you go in prison
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the cats knew you on the streets
for certain things, you got a
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target on you. Other times,
because you did click with the
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right people you have
a protection around you.
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In your four or five different
prison stents, which did you
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experience more of, the target
on your back or the protection.
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This really wasn't protection,
because you got to understand,
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I don't care where you go
all over the world, if you say
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you're from Miami, you all
automatic bond. So most of the
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prison system in Florida was
from Miami. So wherever you went
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you know it was like hey there
was a lot who knew me. When I
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got there it was like hey man
you all right? You now this and
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that. It was the protection.
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OK so here's who you are,
Jeffrey Cobb, Gainesville,
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Florida, selling drugs in
Miami, drug game, following your
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brother, selling drugs, killing,
murder, kidnap, I mean just the
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whole gamut, in and out of
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jail. You get high on your own
supply, develop an addiction.
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It clicks in your head one day
when your 10-year-old daughter
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is like man are you going to
always leave me. So that's where
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you've been. How did you get
here? I see it on you, I see it
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on you, but there is still a
calm, a peace about you, that
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I'm sure you didn't have then.
How did you get here? When did
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Christ intervene in your life?
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It was only Christ because you
know when I made up my mind that
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was it, when my daughter spoke
that, I went to God just like I
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approached somebody that owed me
for my drugs. I said Lord I want
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to know the truth and nothing
but the truth. At that time, I
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went into court and the judge
said he didn't even want to see
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my face for another year. They
were saying what are you facing?
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I said 30 to life and I was like
whoa. I said Lord I'm done. I
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want to know you just to be
straight up, I talked to the
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Lord. I want to be straight up.
I want to know you. I said, you
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get me out of this one, I will
serve you for the rest of my
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life. Listen, now
what are you doing?
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How long ago was that?
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That was 15 years ago.
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Fifteen years ago. So what
you been doing for 15 years.?
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After 15 years, man, God
has called me to do a ministry,
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Shelter From the Storm. Housing
men and women released from jail
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and prison. So is
that a half-way house?
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A transition house. A
transition house. So tell us
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about a transition
house. What does that mean?
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In a transition house, you
have men and women that were in
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prison. A lot of them accept the
message and when they get out
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they don't want to go back to
their old environment. Because
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if I would have went
back to Miami, I wouldn't have
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been here talking to you. So
what that do allow them to come
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somewhere where they can
strengthen their relationship
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with Christ. And also with
someone as myself and others
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have been through what they've
been through and as we go into
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the prison and preach, once
they get out we receive them and
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help them walk
through this new life style.
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So not only are you housing them
but you're also going back into
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the prisons and ministering.
Amen. So what is the response?
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Have you run into someone who
knew you then who sees you now.
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Oh yes. A prison wanted me to
come and preach in that prison
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where I first did my
time. As a matter of fact, my
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brother-in-law that was dating
my sister, he got life in prison
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so when I came to preach he
looked at me and some of the
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guys that had life; they were
like no man. Is that you? I said
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yes it's me. My lord,
my lord. So all of that
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leads to the last 15 years
you reaching back to people like
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yourself, people who have
addictions, people who were once
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caught up in the drug game,
people who looked like they had
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no hope in prison. The Lord
is now using you to preach and
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minister to them both in prison
and when released from prison.
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Here's what I need you to do.
I need you right now to look...
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Because here's the thing, a
lot of times when we get out of
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those situations because we have
nowhere else to go, the easiest
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thing for us to do
is to go right back.
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Go back to what you know.
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Yeah, and people call it being
institutionalized. My little
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brother, who's now serving time
in Arizona, every time he would
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get out, man, every time
he would get out, I would say
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listen, just come with me, just
come with me. I started doing
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the rap music thing and there
was something in him that he
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could be with me for so long
before he went back. Before you
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speak to them, have you
experienced that where you give
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these people this opportunity.
You give them the opportunity
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to come out and then they still
feel the lure of the street and
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they end up going back, like
the Bible says, a dog returning
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to its vomit. Oh
yes. I experienced that
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through this ministry. God
has been using me to do this
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ministry 10 years. And it hurts
because you see them right on
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the brink of breaking but
nothing you can do but present
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Christ to them. And you see them
go back and it's heart wrenching
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to see them go back.
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OK then what I need you to
do, I want you to take the next
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couple of minutes and there's
a camera right over my shoulder.
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I want you to look into
that camera. There's someone out
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there. There's a couple of
people I want you to address.
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Number one, the person who feels
like there is no hope. There is
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no hope. Some people who would
rather stay in prison because
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they know once they get on the
streets they got nobody. Those
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who feel there is no hope,
number one. Those who are on the
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brink of breaking from the life
style but don't know that it's
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possible, but there's a Jeffrey
Cobb here who can tell I them
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that it is. I want you to speak
to those two groups of people
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right over my shoulder.
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I just want to let someone know
that your only hope is in Christ
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Christ can break that addiction
and someone that don't have
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nowhere to go, just pray and the
Lord will open up a door. And if
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you call me and we have space in
the house then I'll be glad to
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take you. I understand. And
one thing just don't give up.
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I never gave up. Even in my
addiction I knew there was a
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better life and I'm letting you
know now it's a better life in
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Jesus. A better
life, but what you said
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was a better life in Jesus. I
mean, I understand the mentoring
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you're doing. Tell us more about
your better life just quickly,
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about your better life in Jesus.
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No words can explain. I could
sit here all day and no words
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can explain the peace and
the calm and the beauty of a
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changed life in
walking with Christ.
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So that daughter of yours,
what's your relationship right
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now. We have a
wonderful relationship
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How does she feel about the
change and the ministry that
00:24:53.19\00:24:55.06
you're undertaking? Oh
she always says, Dad, you
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know she calls me Daddy. She be
calling me and checking on me.
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Our relationship is so good she
told me I need to stay single
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because if I get married I'm
going to be taking some of her
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time. So again, this is such a
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beautiful story of a 15-year-old
young boy, if we be honest, who
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gets lost in the drug game,
begins to keep company with
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murderers, drug dealers, thieves
drug addicts. I mean, it's known
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around the city for being cut
throat, known around the city
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for being someone who they
say you can get it for cheap. He
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eventually succumbs to a
crack addition after losing his
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brother, the guy who you said
was a god. He was taking the
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place of Jesus
in your life. Yes.
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He loses his brother, gets
addicted to the product that
00:25:51.51\00:25:54.68
he's selling. This product
causes him to go in and out of
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prison, in and out of prison and
then there's a break when his
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10-year-old daughter says dad
are you going to keep leaving
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me? From there the Lord begins
to speak to you. You then find
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yourself for the last 15 years
ministering to people who feel
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like they have no hope, who feel
that they're lost in the life
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style that you escaped from. And
experiencing a joy in Jesus that
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to use your words, is
indescribable and unspeakable,
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enjoying not only that but
enjoying a mended relationship
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with your daughter, a
relationship with your daughter.
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She doesn't even want you to
be with anyone else because then
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it would interfere with what
you're able to do and give to
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her. Yes. Praise God, Praise
God. I mean if we were somewhere
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else Jeff we might have
a praise break right now.
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Amen, amen. I just
want to praise God for
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your story. Do you have a
web site for your ministry?
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No, not at the
time. Is there an address?
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The address is:
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One more time:
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This has been surely a story of
God fulfilling the mission that
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he first proposed in
Isaiah, that Jesus came, in Luke
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chapter four, stood up and
he rolled open a scroll. Then it
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wasn't a Bible, where you flip
pages. You roll the scroll, you
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go here and there, here a little
there a little and Jesus opened
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up the scroll and what he said
in the book of Luke is that he
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sent here to set the captives
free, to liberate the oppressed,
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to take the yoke of bondage off
the downtrodden and on today's
00:27:50.50\00:27:55.10
program we have heard firsthand
from Jeffrey Cobb what it is
00:27:55.14\00:27:59.71
like when you dare to dream
and embark upon a new journey.
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God bless you.
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