The following program
discuses sensitive issues.
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Parents are
cautioned that some material
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may be too candid
for younger children.
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Welcome to "The New Journey,"
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the program where we
meet real life people,
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with real life testimonies,
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with real life
working ministries for Jesus.
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Today we'll delve into our
program with Ms. Paula Hollmon.
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On our last program with
Ms. Hollmon, we learned about
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job readiness and being
prepared for the outside world
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when released
from jail or prison.
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Today we want to
get even more practical
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and talk about the dress
code when looking for a job
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and how to carry
yourself on a day to day basis.
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I'm your host Aaron Chancy.
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Come join us on
"The New Journey."
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Welcome back to
"The New Journey."
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Today, we have an
exciting, exciting program
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with Miss Paula Hollmon.
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Thank you for being on
the show Ms. Paula Hollmon.
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Thank you for having me back.
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All right, amen.
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Now we did a previous
program where you were on
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and you talked
about your organization.
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What exactly is
your organization?
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And can you provide some
information, what it does?
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Absolutely, JAS4YOU
Development Foundation
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is a life skills
community training
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and development service.
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We provide services for people
who are looking for employment
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and who need to
beef up their skills at.
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And we also provide
referral programs to anyone
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that comes to our
organization for help.
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Okay.
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Now many men, many viewers may
have not seen the previous show
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and we talked on
there about job readiness.
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We talked about job
placement assistance.
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We talked about prisoner
re-entry initiative program
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and we talked
about referral programs.
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All of these programs are
very important, aren't they?
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They are
absolutely important. Okay.
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Now we talked also
about how when people seem
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to follow these
steps in this program,
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they probably have
better success rate
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of making in out in
society, is that correct?
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Absolutely
because they also learn
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how to discover and investigate.
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Okay, okay. Along the way.
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Okay, that's great.
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Now, what I want to move
into is some new information.
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People may have seen
that old information,
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we want to move into
some new information.
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Now in the job readiness
there is some core topics.
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We want to talk a little
bit about these core topics.
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The first one being ''Goal
setting and Perseverance.''
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Goal setting and Perseverance
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comes out the way you interview,
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those characteristics
come out in your interview.
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They give you a
sense of positiveness,
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when you're talking to anyone
who is trying to interview you.
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So these are very important
skills and they're fundamental
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in the baseline
for being successful
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for a job or anything.
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Okay. Okay.
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Also in the core topics
is "Resume Preparation."
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Right. Resume Preparation
is extremely important.
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Because we live in a society
where you're not actually
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going to a manager and
handing them your application...
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Resume
preparation is critical. Okay.
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So not only do you want
to list your job duties,
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you also want to list
how effective you were
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in those various
positions that you held.
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One of the key
things are called Key Words.
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Key Words are words
that the hiring manager
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tells the computer to look for.
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For example, if
I am hiring someone
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who I want them to type 80 wpm
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and I tell the
computer to find anyone...
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who has typed 80 wpm
and send their resume to me.
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So the computer will turnaround
and if you have 60 wpm,
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the manger will never
ever, ever see your resume.
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So key words are important
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and the way you
find those key words
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are built into
the job description
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that the hiring manger
has the job opening for.
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Okay.
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Now as a little side
note I want to do this.
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You know many times
when people are filling out
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job applications or
trying to fill out a resume,
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you know they always want
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what some of the
previous jobs that you've held.
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How is it, is it
important to stay at one job
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for a long time?
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Case in point, I've
tried to go for job interviews
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many a
different times years ago,
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and I will put on there
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okay, I've only worked
at this job three months,
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only worked at
this job for a month.
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I'd never really worked at a job
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longer than three months.
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How hard is to get a job
if you only stay at a job
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may be one month,
two months, three months?
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But people don't
see that consistency
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in your work pattern.
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It's all in your resume
and how you build your resume.
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Okay.
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Say for instance, I
was on the job for 18 years
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but I didn't do the same job.
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So you have to
take those skill sets
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and kind of merge them together.
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But what you're actually
trying to do for your case,
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where you've only
been three months,
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then you need to just pull
out the skills that you learned.
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And how effective
and productive you were
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doing those skills.
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Okay, thank you so much.
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Another core topic is
"Interviewing Techniques."
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Okay, interviewing techniques
are absolutely critical.
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Non verbal and
verbal communication
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comes out in your
interviewing technique.
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That's true.
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Any interviewer is
able to look at you
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and tell whether or
not you're self-confident.
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By how you respond with
your hands and with your body.
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So you have to be
consciously aware of that
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and we go
through several scenarios
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in our workshops about that.
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Now let's say that
you are an employer
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and I am an applicant,
I'm coming to get a job,
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you know, I come
dressed fairly nice
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and if I come in your
office and I sit down in a seat
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and I start slouching, I
start slouching down in my seat
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and, you know, twirling my
fingers and things like that.
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What kind of aura does
that let off to people?
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Well, it shows a sense of self--
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that you don't
have self-confidence.
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And when I'm talking to you
because I've rendered the feud
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for so many years.
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I can immediately tell,
if you're telling the truth.
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If you cross your legs, if
you start tapping your thigh...
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So you're reading body language?
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If you do not look into my eyes,
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if you start looking
up, all of those things
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are critical things
that employers look for.
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Okay, so it's
important to come to a job,
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sit up straight in your seat,
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it's important
to look the person
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that you're interviewing
with directly in the eye.
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It's important even to
talk clearly, to speak clearly.
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You know, you have so many
people that come for interview.
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And you know they come talking
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like they are talking to
their friend down the street,
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which that's not,
that's not going to do, is it?
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Right, it's not
appropriate. Okay.
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Nor does it show, it does
not show your professionalism.
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I suggest to people get in
the mirror and start talking...
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Practice it. To
yourself. Absolutely.
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Okay, that's a good
practice, good practice.
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Also in your core topics
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you have standard interview
question, what is that?
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Okay, there are--
there is a difference,
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there is a standard interview
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and there is a
structured interview.
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A standard interview
is normally a one-on-one
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between the applicant
and the hiring manager.
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A structured interview may have
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three or four
people asking questions.
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And there are normally people,
you have the hiring manager,
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then you'll have another
manger from that organization
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you may have a human
resources representative
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and so you walk into the
office going for your interview
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thinking you're
gonna interview one-on-one
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and then you're looking,
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and it's a panel.
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And it's just
absolutely horrifying
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if you're not accustomed to it
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or if you don't
know anything about it.
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So we talk about that. Okay.
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How can a person adjust to that?
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If they're expecting
to come into a interview
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and they're expecting
one-on-one and they walk in
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and their mouth
drops to the floor
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because there's four
or five people there.
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It's almost like
a panel discussion.
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What can a person do?
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You need to take a deep breath
because it's gonna show...
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and then the questions
are structured to the point
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where they give you
a example they'll say,
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tell me a time when you
were effective doing this?
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Or tell me a time when
you did not do something
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that you were supposed to do?
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So they're very
structured and they give points.
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Everybody is writing points.
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So what you need to
do is take a deep breath
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and if you
basically have practice
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and you know exactly
what you're gonna say,
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not a problem.
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It should be
okay. Not a problem.
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Okay, okay great.
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How about, also
in the core topics
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you have something
entitled Communication Skills?
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Okay, it's very critical
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when you're
interviewing to have a volume,
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a set volume in your voice,
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not to look up
around and not to be afraid.
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Have a absolute great handshake.
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If you come into my
office and I'm interviewing you
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and I say my
name is Paula Hollmon,
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then you address
me as Miss Hollmon.
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If I say to you I'm Dr. Hollmon,
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then you address
me as Dr. Hollmon.
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It's very important
that you have questions.
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For the interviewer, the
person that's interviewing you
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the only way you're
gonna have questions
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is that you review the website.
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And know what
that company is about,
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have a feel what
that company is about.
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So it requires
work to even get a job.
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There you go. Okay.
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Also in the core
topics you talk about
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on-site customized workshops.
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Okay.
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Our organization provides
on-site customized workshops
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and basically what they
are, if you are an organization
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and you're dealing with people
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who are coming
off a substance abuse
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and drugs and they
need to find a job.
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You would call me and I
would look at the people
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that you are servicing,
your organization is servicing.
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And I would
customize a workshop for you
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specifically for your clients
and we go to your organization.
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And provide the services there.
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Okay, it sounds like
a very great program,
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very great program.
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Now if somebody wanted to build
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their own
organization like this,
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what can a person do,
what steps do they need to take
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to even build this organization?
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You built the
JAS4YOU Organization.
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What can a person do,
even using your own self
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as an example,
what can a person do
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to build an
organization like this?
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I think you have
to have a desire.
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You have to have a passion.
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Whatever you have a passion
for is what you go after.
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There is nothing under
the sun that hasn't been done.
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So go on that
internet, look and see
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what other organizations
are doing the same thing
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and then create
your style to that
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and you build a model and
infrastructure through that.
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Okay.
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You know I want to talk
about based upon certain crime,
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what should a person look for?
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And I want to
do that by starting
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with a particular story.
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You know, I remember when I was
about I think 17, 18 years old.
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I was 18 years old
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and I went to a home
depot in Dallas, Texas
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to try to get a job.
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Good job paying $10 an hour.
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You know, I
thought this was great.
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I filled out the application
and as I was going there,
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I actually got called
back for an interview,
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you know, which is great news.
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Here I'm 18 years old,
they're paying $10 an hour.
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I thought that was,
you know, great news.
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Since I've been
used to or accustomed to
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working in like
fast food places,
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you know minimum wage $5
an hour things like that.
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I said that was great.
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Now one thing about it is,
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you know, on my
application it asked,
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had you been
convicted of a crime
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within the last seven years?
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Now on that I put, will
explain in interview, okay.
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So I kind of learned
throughout the years not to put
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yes, I've been convicted of
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such and such, such and such.
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Because people tend to
say, well, you know what,
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I'm not even going to hired him
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without them talking to
you to see what you're about.
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So anyhow I went for this
particular interview, excited.
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And as I was talking to the,
to the manager about the job,
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he told me something
important, when we got to the,
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got to the
section about the crime.
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I began to explain
to him what it was,
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you know what degree it was,
what kind of crime I committed,
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how much time I served.
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And, you know, he said
because your crime involves
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stealing something.
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It was breaking, dealing
with breaking in the homes,
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we can't hire you for this job.
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You know we're
working with different things
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that you could steal at anytime.
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And he said, you know what?
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You cannot work here,
we can't hire you here.
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But he did say something else.
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He said, you know what?
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Though you have that
crime if you had a drug charge,
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we could hire you, if
you had a drug charge.
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And I thought to
myself, well, you know what?
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May be I should go
out there and sell drugs
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and catch a drug charge,
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may be I have a better
chance to getting a job,
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which you know,
that's not good either.
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So I want to know is
there certain kinds of jobs
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which are based
upon a person's crime,
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it's best not to look for?
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Oh, absolutely. Okay.
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Just by the mere fact
that you have a felony.
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There're certain companies
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that you will not
be able to work for.
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And you need to
know those companies,
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but there're also
felony friendly organizations
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that hire people and it's,
of course it's a challenge,
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but you should
always tell the truth.
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I think you should be
truthful because the company,
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the perspective
company is spending money
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and they're trusting you
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as well as you're
trusting them to pay you.
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So I think that you
should always be honest,
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but there will
be road blocks there
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that you just have to open up.
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And that's where that
determination and perseverance
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plays such a big key.
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Because something
like that which I thought
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was a fantastic job,
you know $10 an hour.
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But he told me no. Right.
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That's the road
block right there.
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Now, what I have to do is say,
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either I'm going to get
discouraged by this road block
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and, you know, I
just go out there
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and commit another
crime whatever it maybe.
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Or I could say, you know what?
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You know, I can go out
there and find another job.
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Just be determined and I
may need to just work fast food
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for a while until I
find something else.
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Now you said
something important,
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you said felony friendly jobs.
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How does a person
find a felony friendly job?
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What do you do?
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You go on the website and
type in felony friendly jobs.
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Hey, that's pretty easy.
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At your local,
whatever town you're in
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and there will be
some hits on that.
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Okay, okay.
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I want to tell another story
because you now this is so key
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in filling out the application.
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I remember getting another
job, actually getting this job
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this time in Dallas, Texas.
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And it was a job
working with a moving company.
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Great excellent job,
never had anything like that.
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And, you know, when we
filled up the application,
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I didn't put any information
there with the crime.
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I put my social security number,
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my name, all that
kind of information.
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And I was
working for a few days.
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Great excellent job, going
to houses locally in Dallas,
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moving them out, and moving
them to wherever they were
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gonna go in a local area.
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Excellent job, paid well, paid
every week things like that.
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But something happened.
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And you know the but, it
cancels out everything else
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that I just said before.
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So something
happened and what happened was
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is that corporate did
a background check on me,
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they did a background check
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and you know what
actually I made a mistake.
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I did put on there
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that I had never
been convicted of a crime.
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I had lied on my application.
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I put no, never been convicted.
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Corporate did a
background check on me
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and it came back and it said
he's been convicted of a felony
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and blah, blah, blah.
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It gave the
information about the felony
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and you know what they told me,
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they said you know
what, you're fired.
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Simple and plain.
Couldn't keep me there.
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So how important
is it for a person
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to tell the truth
on their application?
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I think it's extremely important
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because it deals
with your integrity,
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who you are as an individual.
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Okay, what if a
person has no integrity?
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Then that's an
issue. That's a big issue.
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That's a huge
issue and they need to go
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to those types of
classes that can help them.
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Because there are
expungement classes
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that you can go to
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and they'll tell
you the seriousness
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of telling a lie
on an application.
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Because nowadays
most companies will do
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some type of background check.
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Okay, and you know the
interesting thing about it
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is you may lie
on that application,
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you may get that
job for few days,
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but then they
turnaround and fire you
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and then what happens
next when you go fill out
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a job application
again for another job,
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it's gonna say on there, have
you ever been fired from a job?
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Have you ever, you know,
where have you worked at?
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And then you have to
make that decision again.
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Am I gonna lie or am
I gonna tell the truth.
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So you could end up
right back in the jam again.
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So it's important to tell
the truth, right off the bat.
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Now, what I want to do
is talk about the importance
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of how to dress
for certain jobs.
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This is very, very key. Okay.
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You know, I know for myself
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a lot of jobs that I
used to get fast food.
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I would just pretty
much come in there, you know,
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some jeans and you know
they would be sagging way down.
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I would have a big O
shirt that probably about
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two or three
people could get in.
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I've had a hat backwards
or something like that.
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In fact I
remember going to a job
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at a fast food restaurant,
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trying to get a job and I
had long hair at that time,
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I had braids and I
had beer bottle tops
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smashed on to
the back of my hair
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so where my hair
dangle there instead of beads
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I had beer bottle tops.
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And this is how I went to try
to have a interview at a job.
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I actually got hired at
the job, but that's not good.
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That's not good at all.
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So how important is
it for a person to dress,
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dress appropriate for
the job they're going for?
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I think anytime
you go for position
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you should dress appropriately.
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Okay.
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Say for instance if
you go to McDonalds,
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the manager probably
doesn't have a suit jacket on
00:17:44.48\00:17:47.74
but he has a business shirt.
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You should wear the same thing.
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Okay, okay.
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Because your manger may not
be, may hire you for one job
00:17:53.19\00:17:57.03
but he is looking
at your potential.
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What you could be, how
can you fit in my organization
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and how determined
and successful you are?
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So I think it's critical
no matter what job you go to.
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I think that you absolutely
need to dress the part now
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if you go into an organization
or say you want to be
00:18:13.74\00:18:18.02
a tattoo receptionist
where they do tattoos,
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then you can wear spiky hair
00:18:21.03\00:18:23.38
and tattoos and...
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That's appropriate for
that. It's appropriate for that.
00:18:24.88\00:18:26.76
But I think most of it is
that you go into an organization
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or a corporation dressed
as professionally as possible.
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So pretty much what you're
looking for, you need to--
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kind of do a
little research maybe on,
00:18:37.97\00:18:40.04
you know, based upon
what you're looking for?
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How should I dress for that?
00:18:41.48\00:18:42.83
Because you made an
important point, you know,
00:18:42.86\00:18:44.94
in going to a
tattoo parlor to get a job,
00:18:44.97\00:18:47.68
you may have the
skills and you know
00:18:47.71\00:18:50.26
you maybe able to go in
there showing tattoos off
00:18:50.29\00:18:52.52
on your body, going
there with some raggedy shorts,
00:18:52.55\00:18:54.69
raggedy shirt,
different things like that
00:18:54.72\00:18:56.33
and actually get that job.
00:18:56.36\00:18:57.96
You may go in
there with a suit and tie
00:18:57.99\00:18:59.81
and they're gonna
look at you like you are
00:18:59.84\00:19:01.45
a square or something.
00:19:01.48\00:19:02.51
And you can't work here. Right.
00:19:02.54\00:19:03.87
So it's very important to
know to even do that research
00:19:03.90\00:19:07.57
to know how you should
dress for a particular job.
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Now for a corporate
type job, first of all
00:19:10.43\00:19:13.17
what is a
corporate type job for people
00:19:13.20\00:19:15.29
that may not know that
are oblivious to this fact?
00:19:15.32\00:19:17.93
What exactly is a corporate job?
00:19:17.96\00:19:19.88
In my opinion every
job is a corporation.
00:19:19.91\00:19:22.89
Okay.
00:19:22.92\00:19:23.95
Even your churches, you have,
that's a part of a corporation,
00:19:23.98\00:19:27.12
it's a business.
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And so when you look at it
from a business perspective,
00:19:28.63\00:19:32.56
you should dress appropriately.
00:19:32.59\00:19:34.91
There are some corporations
that have a laidback policy
00:19:34.94\00:19:39.52
then on Fridays
you can wear jeans.
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But you should not be going
in the interview with that.
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Just basically you don't
have to have expensive clothes.
00:19:44.86\00:19:48.00
Have clean clothes
and look presentable
00:19:48.03\00:19:50.69
and know how to carry yourself,
00:19:50.72\00:19:52.59
because it's not just
the clothes, it's you,
00:19:52.62\00:19:55.22
it's your personality,
it's your perseverance,
00:19:55.25\00:19:58.06
it's your confidence in
who you are as an individual.
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Now even on a day to day
basis, I may not even look,
00:20:01.01\00:20:03.41
be looking for a job.
00:20:03.44\00:20:04.72
But, you know, a lot
of times people are judged
00:20:04.75\00:20:06.80
by what they have on.
00:20:06.83\00:20:08.44
If a person is dressed, I guess
you would say "like a thug"
00:20:08.47\00:20:11.96
then people will say,
okay, he is identified as that.
00:20:11.99\00:20:14.91
If he is dressed in a
suit, he looks businessy,
00:20:14.94\00:20:17.37
you know they'd
address him as that.
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So we're kind of judged
by the way that we dress.
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On a day to basis,
how important it is,
00:20:22.39\00:20:24.93
how important is it to keep up
00:20:24.96\00:20:26.64
that look of
confidence in your dress?
00:20:26.67\00:20:28.65
To me the nucleus of who you are
00:20:28.68\00:20:31.27
is your self-confidence.
00:20:31.30\00:20:32.79
It's your self-esteem, it
doesn't show up momentarily
00:20:32.82\00:20:37.00
it's who you are
as an individual.
00:20:37.03\00:20:39.80
And I think based on that,
00:20:39.83\00:20:41.65
the stronger your self-esteem is
00:20:41.68\00:20:43.87
you
automatically present yourself
00:20:43.90\00:20:45.91
in a certain way at all times.
00:20:45.94\00:20:48.26
It's not a part time thing.
00:20:48.29\00:20:49.64
Okay, it's a full time thing.
00:20:49.67\00:20:51.37
And, you know, the beauty of
it is we're worth so much simply
00:20:51.40\00:20:54.13
because Jesus died
on the cross for us.
00:20:54.16\00:20:56.31
So we're worth so
much so we should,
00:20:56.34\00:20:57.96
we should even carry that,
00:20:57.99\00:20:59.38
you know, with us
on a day to day basis.
00:20:59.41\00:21:01.79
Now, how important
is it for a person to,
00:21:01.82\00:21:04.60
you know, that definitely
has limited education?
00:21:04.63\00:21:07.27
How important is it
to perhaps even look,
00:21:07.30\00:21:09.94
look into going back to school?
00:21:09.97\00:21:11.52
May be a community college
or may be a four year college
00:21:11.55\00:21:14.68
or may be even
getting in the trade.
00:21:14.71\00:21:16.23
How important is it
for a person to do that?
00:21:16.26\00:21:19.62
I think it's very important,
00:21:19.65\00:21:21.27
I think because I
have a can do attitude.
00:21:21.30\00:21:24.88
Actually I got
my master's degree
00:21:24.91\00:21:28.10
when I was well over 45.
00:21:28.13\00:21:30.24
Wow. Well over 45.
00:21:30.27\00:21:31.41
So you're about
to tell your age.
00:21:31.44\00:21:32.94
That's okay, that's okay.
00:21:32.97\00:21:35.76
But the point is this
how determined are you.
00:21:35.79\00:21:38.89
Okay.
00:21:38.92\00:21:39.95
It all deals
with your self-esteem,
00:21:39.98\00:21:42.00
where you want to go,
00:21:42.03\00:21:43.69
what's your
solution action plan.
00:21:43.72\00:21:45.45
Do you have a plan?
00:21:45.48\00:21:46.84
If you don't have
a plan, find a plan.
00:21:46.87\00:21:49.95
If you don't have a
dream, dream a dream.
00:21:49.98\00:21:52.18
Yeah, dream a dream.
00:21:52.21\00:21:53.27
Absolutely, absolutely.
00:21:53.30\00:21:54.77
Now in today's
society, you know, the market,
00:21:54.80\00:21:58.15
the job market is pretty bad.
00:21:58.18\00:22:00.62
You know is it
good to, to get a trade?
00:22:00.65\00:22:03.85
You know that way you can
pretty much work for yourself,
00:22:03.88\00:22:06.22
you don't have to worry
about looking for a job,
00:22:06.25\00:22:09.50
is it better to may
be even just get a trade,
00:22:09.53\00:22:12.04
that way you can
work for yourself.
00:22:12.07\00:22:13.69
You can hire
employees per se that are,
00:22:13.72\00:22:16.85
you know, don't
fit in regular society.
00:22:16.88\00:22:19.57
But, you know, need a
job and you might have been
00:22:19.60\00:22:22.18
able to identify
with them before.
00:22:22.21\00:22:24.00
Is it good to look
into going to trade school?
00:22:24.03\00:22:27.42
I think it's good to go
into a trade that you love.
00:22:27.45\00:22:31.88
I think that if
you're a part of a church
00:22:31.91\00:22:34.04
or an
organization there are people
00:22:34.07\00:22:36.86
who are
successful in your churches,
00:22:36.89\00:22:38.69
in your
organization, talk to them.
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Find out what they do.
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And if that's
something that you desire to do,
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ask them would they
kind of mentor you through...
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Yeah, so that you
can learn it some.
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Exactly what you need.
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I think the
opportunities come everyday.
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Yeah, they do.
They're always there.
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But you have to be
able to have insight to know
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when opportunity
is sitting there.
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As long as you're
dealing with people,
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if you want to be a gardener,
you, most people have gardens...
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People do their gardens.
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Then talk to that person
like what is it take to do that.
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Yeah. I'm interested in that.
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So, you know, it seems like
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the one of the bottom lines
of all of this is research.
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You got to do some research,
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even if you want
to be that gardener,
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that farmer whatever it may be.
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You need to
start somewhere with,
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with doing some research.
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Okay, what does my
soil need to be like?
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You know, where do I?
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What kind of seeds do I plant
during a specific type of year?
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So doing research is
very important, isn't it?
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I think it's important
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but for me on a spiritual level.
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I believe that God
created us to do a specific job.
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And if there is nothing
else you can do is ask the Lord
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what did You plan for me to do?
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And that's
actually the best thing.
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That's actually the best thing.
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With that being said you,
the Lord will respond to that.
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He will respond to you saying,
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what is it that
you created me to do?
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Because although I
was in corporate America
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for many years,
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I was created to do
exactly what I am doing.
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Okay, and that's
what, what it may take.
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You know, and
that's what it does take.
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You know asking the Lord,
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Lord you created
me for a purpose.
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You have an
assignment for me somewhere.
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It may not even be
in corporate America.
00:24:16.71\00:24:19.13
It may not be
in a fast food job,
00:24:19.16\00:24:20.95
it maybe doing mission
work overseas somewhere
00:24:20.98\00:24:23.72
or here in the United States.
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So we never know,
you know, what that is.
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A lot of times we try
to do things ourselves.
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You know, it's so easy
to try to do things our way,
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our own self
instead of letting go
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and letting God
as the phrase says.
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You know, so that
is very, very important
00:24:37.00\00:24:39.80
in terms of you
know succeeding in life,
00:24:39.83\00:24:42.50
just looking onto Jesus
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and saying where
Jesus wants us to be.
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And I think if we do that,
00:24:46.70\00:24:47.99
you know, everything
else start to fall in play.
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Everything else will fall
in play and you will learn
00:24:50.15\00:24:53.48
that you can do much more
than you think you can do.
00:24:53.51\00:24:55.75
Okay, okay.
00:24:55.78\00:24:56.82
You will have a vision.
00:24:56.85\00:24:58.42
You will have a purpose
00:24:58.45\00:24:59.74
and you will
automatically follow that person
00:24:59.77\00:25:02.62
because the
majority of people working
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in corporate
America hate their jobs.
00:25:05.01\00:25:07.43
Yeah, that's true.
00:25:07.46\00:25:08.58
They are not even
happy doing what they do.
00:25:08.61\00:25:11.59
But because
they need the income.
00:25:11.62\00:25:14.04
But there is a point
00:25:14.07\00:25:15.42
where you have to
come to a cross road
00:25:15.45\00:25:17.24
and say, okay, I need
to satisfy this desire.
00:25:17.27\00:25:21.02
You know, God help me with this
00:25:21.05\00:25:22.47
because this is not
working for me anymore.
00:25:22.50\00:25:24.41
Yeah, you know and
that is so true that,
00:25:24.44\00:25:26.95
you know, people at lot of times
00:25:26.98\00:25:28.42
they don't
necessarily like their job.
00:25:28.45\00:25:30.42
You know, my dad used to tell me
00:25:30.45\00:25:31.75
some when I was younger,
00:25:31.78\00:25:32.82
he would say you know
find a job that you like doing
00:25:32.85\00:25:35.24
so when you go to work
00:25:35.27\00:25:36.33
it's not like
work, it's just like,
00:25:36.36\00:25:38.38
it's something you like
to do, it's something fun.
00:25:38.41\00:25:41.15
And you know, I think that
00:25:41.18\00:25:42.42
that is
important in finding a job
00:25:42.45\00:25:44.38
because if you do find
something that you like,
00:25:44.41\00:25:46.63
then it's just
enjoyable, just to go to,
00:25:46.66\00:25:48.54
it doesn't become that burden,
00:25:48.57\00:25:49.69
it doesn't
become that dread eye.
00:25:49.72\00:25:51.03
I don't like to wakeup to
go to where I'd, you know,
00:25:51.06\00:25:53.09
I dread in
dressed to go to work.
00:25:53.12\00:25:54.96
So that is very important.
00:25:54.99\00:25:56.26
You know, try to understand
what your own skills are.
00:25:56.29\00:25:59.09
What your skills are
00:25:59.12\00:26:00.45
and what job suits
those specific kind of skills.
00:26:00.48\00:26:03.01
And another
thing that's important
00:26:03.04\00:26:04.76
is to not put
limitations on yourself.
00:26:04.79\00:26:07.85
And be fearless, try everything.
00:26:07.88\00:26:09.77
I mean everything
is not gonna work,
00:26:09.80\00:26:11.49
and it's okay, it's really okay.
00:26:11.52\00:26:13.62
because you learn not to
do that same thing again.
00:26:13.65\00:26:16.58
But don't be afraid to try.
00:26:16.61\00:26:18.35
Okay.
00:26:18.38\00:26:19.41
And I think fear
captivates people.
00:26:19.44\00:26:22.04
Okay, I want you to talk
to the viewer for a second.
00:26:22.07\00:26:24.94
I want you to
challenge the viewer to,
00:26:24.97\00:26:28.65
you know, find a
job, to trust in Jesus to,
00:26:28.68\00:26:31.88
you know, allow the
Lord to open up doors.
00:26:31.91\00:26:34.39
Challenge them to
even seek God first
00:26:34.42\00:26:37.43
and all things
else will be added.
00:26:37.46\00:26:39.70
I will do that. Amen.
00:26:39.73\00:26:41.12
All I can say is that
in my journey I have found
00:26:41.15\00:26:45.08
that I'm capable of
un-limitless potential.
00:26:45.11\00:26:49.39
I think that
anyone in this society
00:26:49.42\00:26:51.97
with everything
going on needs to face
00:26:52.00\00:26:55.27
and seek the Lord
for every situation
00:26:55.30\00:26:59.01
that you have in life,
00:26:59.04\00:27:00.13
because nothing
is too big for God.
00:27:00.16\00:27:02.19
He is able to handle
it all. That's right.
00:27:02.22\00:27:04.32
So since He is able
and He wants to do it,
00:27:04.35\00:27:06.82
why wouldn't you let Him do it?
00:27:06.85\00:27:08.57
And I think that He
will just take you to places
00:27:08.60\00:27:10.64
that you couldn't even imagine.
00:27:10.67\00:27:13.50
But you have to
know that He is there
00:27:13.53\00:27:15.69
and you have to accept His help.
00:27:15.72\00:27:17.35
Okay, okay.
00:27:17.38\00:27:18.68
Real quick, provide
your contact information,
00:27:18.71\00:27:20.75
so that people
can get in contact
00:27:20.78\00:27:21.93
with your organization.
00:27:21.96\00:27:23.08
Okay, it's www.jas4you.org.
00:27:23.11\00:27:28.29
That's www.jas4you.org.
00:27:28.32\00:27:35.43
The phone
number is 888-527-1670.
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Thank you so
much, Ms. Paula Hollmon.
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Thank you so much.
00:27:43.52\00:27:44.60
You know, viewers
this has been a great,
00:27:44.63\00:27:46.42
great experience
learning this information.
00:27:46.45\00:27:49.34
I hope you've
taken out a pen, a paper
00:27:49.37\00:27:52.39
and written some
of this stuff down.
00:27:52.42\00:27:54.49
You know, it's not everyday
that you'll get somebody
00:27:54.52\00:27:56.60
that will tell you the steps
00:27:56.63\00:27:57.72
that you need to
take in how to find Jesus,
00:27:57.75\00:28:00.49
the steps that you need to
take and how to find a job.
00:28:00.52\00:28:03.20
How to be determined?
00:28:03.23\00:28:04.70
How to, you know,
really put your skills to use?
00:28:04.73\00:28:07.90
How to get out
there and do something?
00:28:07.93\00:28:10.18
You know what?
00:28:10.21\00:28:11.50
This is a very great program
00:28:11.53\00:28:13.91
and I hope you'll bless
this as, like I was blessed.
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Please join us next
time on The New Journey.
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Be blessed.
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