The following program
discusses sensitive issues.
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Parents are
cautioned that some material
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may be too candid
for younger children.
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Welcome to "The New Journey,"
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the program where we
meet real life people,
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with real life testimonies,
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with real life
working ministries for Jesus.
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Today we'll talk to a
lady that will provide
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the necessary tools to
make it on the outside.
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Many times ex offenders are
released from jail or prison
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and have not
received the proper education
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on how to make it
job-wise in society.
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We'll talk about
the job readiness,
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the proper way to
fill out a job application,
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prisoner re-entry
and referral programs,
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along with so much more.
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You won't want to miss
today's exciting program.
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I'm your host Aaron Chancy,
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come join us on
"The New Journey."
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Welcome back to
"The New Journey."
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Today we have an exciting,
exciting program for you.
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We'd like to welcome
Miss Paula Hollmon to the set.
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Thank you so much, Miss
Hollmon, for being here.
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We want to jump
right into our questions.
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How did you get involved
in working with ex offenders?
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Well, I considered
the needs of the many,
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and that target
audience is absolutely
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in need of being able to
have as much help as possible.
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Okay.
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And so that was
one of the target,
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why I decided
to do exactly that,
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is to assist them
and trying to help them
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to re-enter back into society
as well as have the skill set
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to be able to find employment.
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Okay, that's
great, that's great.
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Now your
organization is entitled
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JAS4YOU Development Foundation
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which is a 501(c)(3)
non-profit organization.
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Can you tell us a little
bit about this organization?
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Basically JAS4YOU
Development Foundation
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is a community
life skills training
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and development program.
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Okay.
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Now you chose the name JAS4YOU.
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Why is it entitled JAS4YOU?
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That's my
granddaughter's initials.
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Oh, it is?
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I like that,
JAS4YOU, I like that a lot.
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Now what's the
mission or the goals,
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what are you trying
to teach in this program?
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Our goal is
primarily to fill in the gap
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for people
looking for employment.
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So we teach
people those skill sets
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that they may not be privy to
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if they work for a
Fortune 500 company.
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And so our mission is to provide
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as much help as
possible to empower people
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to be employed
and also to be able
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to be effective
in their community.
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Okay, that's
great. That's great.
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Now you have some
very interesting programs.
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What are some of the programs
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that the JAS4YOU
foundation offers?
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We actually have five programs.
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We have job readiness,
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we have job
placement assistance,
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we have a prisoner
re-entry initiative program,
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as well as a referral
program and a youth program.
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Okay, that's great.
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Now with the youth program,
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there's a lot of youth out there
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that need something,
that need some assistance,
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need some kind of
help, some kind of direction.
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So I'm sure that this
is a vital, vital aspect
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that can help the
youth along, isn't it?
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Absolutely.
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What we do is we
customize the youth program
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to address issues
like money management--
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That's needed.
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We also provide for
them, an opportunity
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to take their non-working
experience and create resumes.
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And we also show
them how to interview.
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Because they, too, will
be interviewing for colleges
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and various and
sundry organizations
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that they try to be involved in.
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Now I want to focus a little bit
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on the job readiness program.
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Very, very important.
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Tell the viewers
about the program
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and what it provides,
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what does this job
readiness program provide?
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Okay, our job readiness program
is primarily set up through
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what is called workshops.
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And basically what it is,
is that we deal with issues
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such as resume building,
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we talk about interviewing
techniques and skills.
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We also talk about
building your resume
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so it's an effective resume,
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how not to put
your picture up there
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and not to do
borders and things like that.
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And so we also talk
about the importance of
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perseverance and determination.
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Because those are real
issues, those are real issues,
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especially in this environment.
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To give you a statistic,
in the state of California,
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based on the Labor
Board, as of April of this year,
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the US unemployment
rate was exactly 9%,
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in the state of
California, 11.9%.
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So people living in California
absolutely need to have
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determination and perseverance
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in order to be
effective in finding employment.
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Okay, you know, that's so key,
determination and perseverance,
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that's interesting
that you should mention that
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because, you know,
many times you see people
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that lack motivation,
they lack determination,
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they lack perseverance,
and so often it takes that
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to be able to
accomplish something.
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Case in point, I know
somebody that just got released
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from
incarceration, 3 year sentence,
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about a month ago or so.
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And, you know,
it's hard getting a job.
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Got trades while
he was incarcerated,
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but even coming out, it
was still real difficult.
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And a lot of times even
in his instance, you know,
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it was so easy to
lack that determination,
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that motivation to
be able to, you know,
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get up, get out there, and
actually look for something
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instead of just
waiting on folks to call.
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You know, we tend to say,
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"Okay, well, I'm gonna go
fill out some applications."
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We go there to the job,
we fill out the application,
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and then instead of
going out and looking for more,
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we just sit down
and we kind of wait for,
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you know, the ones we
filled out to give us a call.
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So
determination and perseverance
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are very key, aren't they?
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They absolutely are.
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And what I'm discovering
is the mindset of people
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has not changed although
the environment has changed.
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Having a-- looking for a
job is like having a job.
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Okay, it is.
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You work 12 hour day,
you're doing your research,
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you're looking at your
weaknesses and your strengths,
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you're looking at
what you have done,
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and you try to mesh all
of those elements together.
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And it is a 12 hour job.
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Oh, yes. Absolutely.
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Looking for a job becomes a job,
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but you're just not getting
paid for looking for the job.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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That's pretty interesting.
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What's your thoughts on a person
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that cannot find a
paying job immediately?
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They may be getting
out of incarceration
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or maybe they just
haven't worked in a long time.
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What's something
else or some other things
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that they can do if they cannot
find employment immediately?
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I think the first
thing people need to do
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is to assess their
weaknesses and their strengths.
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What they can do
and what they cannot do.
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Certainly if you've
been incarcerated you have
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a greater barrier
than other people,
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but that does not mean
that you cannot find employment.
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I think that that person also
needs to be able to understand
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that there are some companies
that they won't be able
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to apply for employment.
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But there are
felony friendly companies.
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But they have to
research that, in their area.
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They should also volunteer
instead of sitting there
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waiting for "Please,
please, pick up the phone,
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call me, call me for a job."
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You need to go
out and help others.
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Because it takes away
from the psychological stress
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of having to be
persevering and determination
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and, you know, getting rejected.
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Okay, now, volunteering can be
really good for the simple fact
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that, you know, while
they're looking for a job
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they can be helping
somebody out, somewhere.
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A job may not be
hiring, they can volunteer.
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And, you know, a lot of times,
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even though the
job may not be hiring,
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you never know when
somebody's going to quit.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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You never know when
somebody's going to get fired.
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And people may say, "Okay,
he's been volunteering for us
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for a year now, or
6 months, 3 months,"
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whatever it may be, and say,
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"You know what, he's
been doing a great job.
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He's been doing a real
good job at what he's doing.
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Let's go on and take him on."
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You know, a lot of times--
Do you find that a lot of times
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that people don't think about
that, they don't think about,
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you know, I can
volunteer for 3 months
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or whatever and then
maybe they'll hire me on.
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Absolutely,
because you have a need,
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you have financial need,
you have the worries of the day.
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But at the same time,
because you have to endure
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in this economy,
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it is unrealistic
for anyone to think,
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whether you
have a felony or not,
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that you're going to
get a job on the spot.
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That's very rare.
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So you have to
have an action plan.
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And I consider that to be
one of the top action plans
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while you're waiting.
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Okay, I think
that's very important,
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you said an action plan.
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Yes.
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An action plan, a
get-up-and-do plan,
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you need to start
formulating things in your mind,
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writing things down,
looking on the internet,
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researching different things.
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You know, it's so easy
to kind of get comfortable,
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and instead of even
going out of your house
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to look for a job, we
find a number of the job
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in the phone book,
we call them up and say,
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"Are you
hiring? Are you hiring?"
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And a lot of
times what they say is,
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"Well, just come down and ask."
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And then when you
get there they say,
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"Well, we're not hiring, we're
just accepting applications."
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And then the person
says, "Well, you know what,
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I just wasted all my gas.
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I just wasted all my
time to get down here,
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just to fill out application."
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So it can be discouraging.
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It can be discouraging
at times but, you know,
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as you as you stated,
determination and perseverance
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are so key in
having that action plan.
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Very, very important.
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They're absolutely fundamental
in order for you to succeed.
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If you don't have
it, you will fail.
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Okay, all right. Absolutely.
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How can each of
these benefit people?
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I want to throw
some names out there,
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how can each of these
be beneficial to people?
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Transitional housing.
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Well, most of the
time when people come
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come organization and they say,
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"Okay, I want to
use your computers.
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I'm looking for a job,"
and as the counselors do
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one on one
interviews they find out,
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well, this person
doesn't have a house to stay.
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So therefore we
connect with organizations
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within the
community and so we say,
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"Okay, why don't you try
calling this organization.
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They may be able to
help you to find housing."
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Okay, that's great.
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You know, it always does
help when there's some kind of
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support system there.
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Because, you know, in
the world, in America,
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we do have homelessness
and things like that,
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and to be able to say,
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"Look, I'm about
to get out of prison,
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I have nowhere to go.
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You know, can I come
to this half-way house?
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Can I come to this shelter?"
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Something to transition
you back into society.
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You know, I remember
when I was in prison,
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they had a program, it
was entitled Project Rio.
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And what it was, it
would reintegrate people
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back into society.
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You would go there,
you would learn job skills,
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you would learn how to
fill out an application,
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what to put on a
resume, things like that.
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But, you know, even
though they had something good,
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offering something good,
I noticed that some people
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just didn't want to do it.
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Some people just
lacked that motivation,
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some people lacked that
desire to even want to do it
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and would rather just
sleep in their bunk all day
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instead of actually, you know,
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let me go to these classes,
and let me try to do something.
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Let me throw out
another name for you,
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substance abuse and
mental health treatment centers.
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There are people that
come looking for a job
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because they deem that
that's the only problem
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that they have.
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But people have mental issues,
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they have
substance abuse issues,
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they're
homeless, so it's a pile-on
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of many negative things.
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So we try to ensure
that these people have access
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to as much as possible,
if they want to utilize it.
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Okay.
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Now I know that substance
abuse is very important,
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now mental health
is important, too.
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But I know with
the substance abuse,
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a lot of jobs these days,
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you have to give a urine sample,
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whatever it may be,
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to even get some of these jobs.
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I remember, one time
where I was going to go
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try to do truck
driving, drive an 18 wheeler,
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little old me, gonna try to
get behind the steering wheel
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and drive an 18 wheeler.
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Couldn't imagine
it but, you know,
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it seemed like a good
job that maybe I could do.
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And one of the main
problems I was having is that
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I was onto drugs, I was
onto cocaine at the time,
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I just could not find any
week where I was just free
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without the drugs in my system,
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to be able to go
down there and, you know,
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give a clean urine sample,
to be able to get that job.
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So that's good that
there's substance abuse classes
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in place to let people know,
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look, you need to get
clean if you want a job.
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If you want a real good job
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you need to be
able to get clean.
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That's very important.
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Another name for
you, prevention program.
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Any type of prevention
program that any substance abuse
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that anyone has,
there are various
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and so many prevention programs,
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things that will stop
anyone from being able
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to be effective
in the job market.
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It could be a
behavioral problem,
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it could be a
family issue problem,
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any type of problem that
you can think a human can have,
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there are
prevention programs out there.
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Okay, that's
great. That's great.
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How about pre-release programs,
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talk a little about
pre-release programs.
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Okay, we have-- there are
several pre-release programs.
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We have some
specific for Orange County,
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but they're nationwide.
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All you have to do
is look on any website
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and put in pre-release programs,
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and they can get information
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specifically for
their city and their county.
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Okay, so it seems
like to do anything
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with coming out of prison
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or even if not
coming out of prison,
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it requires some work.
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Absolutely. Absolutely.
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Okay, now we want to talk
about vocational training.
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Okay, we do as well
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some soft skill
computer training as well.
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So vocational training, you can
go to any of your local schools
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and find out if they
have night schools for adults.
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You usually don't have to pay
a very expensive cost to go in.
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If I want to learn
about typing better,
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then I can call a
local vocational school
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or any high school and
some of them have programs
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where you can
beef up your skills.
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Okay, you know, that's so key
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because we live in such
a technological world now,
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everything is computers,
everything is iPads, iPods,
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cell phones and
being able to type,
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simply just type, not
even using the internet
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is something very key,
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because of the type
of world we live in.
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So we have vocational training.
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You even learn how
to get on the computer,
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how to look up, how
to do some job searching.
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So you're actually
learning some key things
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in vocational training, right?
00:14:41.22\00:14:42.39
And those are
known as soft skills,
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when you get into
Word and other programs.
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Okay. That's a
little bit higher.
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Okay, now can it be
difficult for a person
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just starting on a computer?
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I know for myself, you
know, I just really got into
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working with
computers not too long ago,
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a few years ago actually.
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And, you know, trying
to figure out the keyboard,
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and trying to figure
out what's the internet,
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and trying figure out--
You know, it took me so long
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just to even
formulate a email address.
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I couldn't
understand a email address.
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Right, right.
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So can it be kind of difficult
for a person to, you know,
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sit down at a
computer themselves
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and figure this information out?
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From my perspective,
there is no difficulty.
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If determination is
there, you can do anything.
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So you don't have
those limitations.
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Okay, and actually the
Bible says, "I can do all things
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through Christ
who strengthens me."
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Philippians 4:13.
Right, absolutely, absolutely.
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So the only
limitation anyone has,
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are those that they
put on their selves.
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They put on themselves.
So, no, it's not difficult.
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If you're determined
to be better skill set,
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you will sit there for hours.
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Because most people do.
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They sit there for
hours looking on the internet
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for a movie or whatever
they do or Skype or other...
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You're right.
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So it's not difficult.
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So it may not seem fun
while looking for a job,
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things like that, sitting there
trying to learn the computer.
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That may not be as fun as
sitting back for 2, 3 hours
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watching your favorite TV
show or your favorite movie.
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But if you want to
succeed in life per se,
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then you need to
be able to develop
00:16:09.29\00:16:11.71
some of these
kind of skills, right?
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Absolutely, and you
also need to understand
00:16:13.13\00:16:16.05
that life itself is a challenge.
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Yeah, it is.
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So you're never
gonna be challenge free.
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It's how you feel
about the challenge
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that you're having to deal with.
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Amen, amen.
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Now you have some statistics
that you actually want to read.
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Yes, I do.
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If you could go
to those statistics,
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and I want you to
read those very profoundly.
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Provide that information for us.
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Okay, the US Bureau of
Justice statistics say,
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"Nearly 2 million men and
women and juvenile offenders
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will be released over the
next 3 years from federal,
00:16:42.47\00:16:45.53
state and local
correctional facilities.
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Without intervention more
than 2/3rds of these individuals
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will be rearrested for
serious new felony offenses
00:16:53.17\00:16:57.34
within 3 years of their release.
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With these statistics
no one, no one organization
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can possibly fit the
bill and help everyone."
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That is why I felt it
was important for me to do
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what I could do, so God
could do what I could not do,
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and provide some type of
service for this target group.
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Okay, you know, in
that quote you just read
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you said something
about intervention.
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Intervention is
very, very important
00:17:23.79\00:17:26.24
to be able to get that
needed help, that extra push.
00:17:26.27\00:17:29.31
With somebody
taking the time to say,
00:17:29.34\00:17:31.22
"You know what, I'll
help you get over the drugs."
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That's why you have like AA,
NA, different things like that.
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And these will help people,
00:17:36.60\00:17:38.28
these will
intervene to help them
00:17:38.31\00:17:39.96
get over some
of these obstacles,
00:17:39.99\00:17:41.60
which are very
important, aren't they?
00:17:41.63\00:17:42.86
They're very important.
00:17:42.89\00:17:43.94
And what we do is a
case by case interview
00:17:43.97\00:17:48.03
with people if
they're in agreement to that.
00:17:48.06\00:17:50.74
So we're able to
distract various needs.
00:17:50.77\00:17:54.67
For people to be able to say,
00:17:54.70\00:17:56.81
"Okay, I need a job,
but there's something else.
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I have a felony."
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We can help you with that.
00:18:01.23\00:18:02.89
I don't have housing.
00:18:02.92\00:18:04.36
Well, I know someone
that can help you get housing.
00:18:04.39\00:18:07.09
So the intervention
is critical to success.
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Very critical. To success.
00:18:10.42\00:18:11.47
How do you give a person
that, you know, may not be
00:18:11.50\00:18:15.06
the get-up-and-go type person,
how do you motivate them?
00:18:15.09\00:18:18.72
How do you
encourage them to get up
00:18:18.75\00:18:21.40
and actually do
something on their own
00:18:21.43\00:18:23.59
instead of having
to do things for them?
00:18:23.62\00:18:26.18
How do you motivate a person?
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Well, basically I like
to do one-on-one interviews.
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Because I think
they're very important.
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Normally when I
do-- when I take a person
00:18:34.34\00:18:37.72
and do a one-on-one interview
is behind closed doors.
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And so they will tell me
what they're insecure with.
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I'll say, "What is your goal?
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Do you have a
solution-action plan?"
00:18:46.32\00:18:48.50
Which I call SAP.
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And they say,
"No, what is that?"
00:18:50.12\00:18:51.42
I say, "Well, you
have to have a direction.
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We cannot just be out
here in the atmosphere.
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You have to have a goal.
00:18:56.68\00:18:58.18
You have to do the steps
in order to meet that goal.
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So let's sit
down and write that."
00:19:01.43\00:19:03.18
So it normally becomes
a long term relationship.
00:19:03.21\00:19:06.93
Okay, okay.
00:19:06.96\00:19:08.14
Now you mentioned about goals.
00:19:08.17\00:19:10.33
Goals are very important.
00:19:10.36\00:19:11.68
You know, so many
people get off track in life
00:19:11.71\00:19:13.64
simply because
there's no goal there.
00:19:13.67\00:19:15.37
Absolutely.
00:19:15.40\00:19:16.43
You know, don't know what I
want to be 5 years from now,
00:19:16.46\00:19:18.62
10 years from now.
00:19:18.65\00:19:19.80
So it's kind of like
since you have no idea
00:19:19.83\00:19:22.36
where you want to
go, no destination,
00:19:22.39\00:19:24.12
your direction is
kind of, you know,
00:19:24.15\00:19:26.18
going every type of way.
00:19:26.21\00:19:27.33
And you just pretty
much go where the wind blows,
00:19:27.36\00:19:29.57
do what the wind says, you know.
00:19:29.60\00:19:30.98
And you really have no,
you know, outlook on life,
00:19:31.01\00:19:34.20
I want to do this.
00:19:34.23\00:19:35.41
So since I want to do this--
00:19:35.44\00:19:36.47
Like, if a person wants
to be a doctor they'll say,
00:19:36.50\00:19:38.45
"Okay, I need to go
through elementary school.
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I need to go
through middle school.
00:19:40.82\00:19:41.85
I need to go to high school.
00:19:41.88\00:19:42.92
I need to go to college.
I need to go to med school."
00:19:42.95\00:19:45.04
You know, because
they have a destination
00:19:45.07\00:19:46.59
they want to get to,
00:19:46.62\00:19:47.93
then they have to
go through the steps,
00:19:47.96\00:19:50.06
even researching those steps.
00:19:50.09\00:19:51.62
So goals are
very important, right?
00:19:51.65\00:19:53.69
Right. Very, very important.
00:19:53.72\00:19:55.55
Now have you noticed that
when people tend to go through
00:19:55.58\00:19:57.55
your workshops
and they get involved
00:19:57.58\00:19:59.32
in the referral
programs that you offer,
00:19:59.35\00:20:02.09
do they tend to
adjust better to society?
00:20:02.12\00:20:04.59
Absolutely.
00:20:04.62\00:20:05.66
They get that push
because before the push
00:20:05.69\00:20:10.74
they have a
sense of hopelessness
00:20:10.77\00:20:13.03
because their
needs are so great.
00:20:13.06\00:20:15.02
But when they find out
that there's other organizations
00:20:15.05\00:20:18.03
and agencies there to help
them it does motivate them.
00:20:18.06\00:20:21.64
Okay. It does motivate them.
00:20:21.67\00:20:22.99
Okay, that's great.
Let me ask you a question.
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How long have you
been involved in this work?
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You want my
testimony then, right?
00:20:26.94\00:20:31.09
Actually, I was unemployed.
00:20:31.12\00:20:33.23
I worked for a company.
00:20:33.26\00:20:35.04
After 18 years of
service, I was laid off.
00:20:35.07\00:20:38.46
And so I thought,
"Okay, take what you know,
00:20:38.49\00:20:41.59
and help someone else."
00:20:41.62\00:20:43.17
That's simple. That's great.
00:20:43.20\00:20:45.09
So even after 18 years of
employment and you found--
00:20:45.12\00:20:49.37
did you find that it
was even hard for you
00:20:49.40\00:20:51.52
to get another job?
00:20:51.55\00:20:53.48
No, because I have a attitude
of "this is gonna happen."
00:20:53.51\00:20:59.19
I can do all things.
00:20:59.22\00:21:00.90
I'm not coming
to the table alone.
00:21:00.93\00:21:03.29
So, yes, absolutely,
that was not an issue for me.
00:21:03.32\00:21:06.41
It was a matter of
conditioning myself
00:21:06.44\00:21:09.15
because I was so
used to corporate America.
00:21:09.18\00:21:11.96
And being laid off, it was like,
00:21:11.99\00:21:14.17
"Okay, well, how am
I going to do this?"
00:21:14.20\00:21:16.03
But I worked
through those, you know.
00:21:16.06\00:21:17.35
Okay, now you say
conditioning yourself.
00:21:17.38\00:21:19.28
What were some of the
things you had to do to--
00:21:19.31\00:21:21.25
you know, like you
think of an athlete
00:21:21.28\00:21:23.64
when they condition
themselves, you know,
00:21:23.67\00:21:25.01
they get the proper shoes,
they get the running gear,
00:21:25.04\00:21:27.15
things like that.
00:21:27.18\00:21:28.21
What did you do to condition
yourself for the job search?
00:21:28.24\00:21:31.03
I think my main goal
was really to discover
00:21:31.06\00:21:34.80
what else I could do.
00:21:34.83\00:21:35.95
I looked at my
talents, what I do have.
00:21:35.98\00:21:38.64
What am I bringing
to the table right now?
00:21:38.67\00:21:41.33
And so I took those things
and I searched the internet,
00:21:41.36\00:21:44.71
and I looked to see
what other people were doing
00:21:44.74\00:21:47.42
in the area of job readiness,
how are they helping people.
00:21:47.45\00:21:51.12
What is nonprofit? What is that?
00:21:51.15\00:21:53.11
How does it help the community?
00:21:53.14\00:21:55.45
And from that I
began to build cornerstones
00:21:55.48\00:21:58.30
and the building just got
taller and taller and taller.
00:21:58.33\00:22:01.04
Amen.
00:22:01.07\00:22:02.34
So you really showed a lot of
00:22:02.37\00:22:04.08
determination
and perseverance in,
00:22:04.11\00:22:06.05
you know,
wanting to do something.
00:22:06.08\00:22:07.38
Absolutely.
Wanting to do something.
00:22:07.41\00:22:09.00
Now you're located in
Orange County, California.
00:22:09.03\00:22:12.22
And, you know, there's
many other states in America
00:22:12.25\00:22:14.86
and many can't come out
to Orange County, California
00:22:14.89\00:22:17.69
to get involved in your program.
00:22:17.72\00:22:19.61
How does a person go
about finding out about
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vocational
training, referral programs,
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treatment progress, how
does a person take those steps?
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Basically, there
are organizations
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throughout the whole country
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that provide
similar services that I do.
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So they need to
go on the internet
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and search for those services.
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We are-- Our organization
will have the end of the year
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service available
through the internet
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for people who do not live
in our state or in our county
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that will be able
to take our workshops.
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Okay.
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You know what, what I want
you to do right now is because
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there's many viewers that are
watching this, and, you know,
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they may be discouraged,
they may have been turned down
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from jobs, numerous
amounts of times, you know,
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lack that
motivation, lack that push.
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I want you to talk to that
viewer that is sitting at home,
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beating himself
up or herself up.
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You know, speak to them
to encourage them, to get up,
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get out, and start looking for
a job, getting on the internet,
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job searching, whatever
they need to do to succeed.
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Well, what I would like to
say, if you're currently looking
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for a position, you
will have obstacles,
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but obstacles are just
little mini ads and vacations
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in terms of what it is
you want to do in your life.
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And you have to be diligent.
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You have to
know your weaknesses.
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You have to know your strengths.
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You have to use the internet
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because there's so
much information out there.
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And just never give up.
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Yeah. Just never give up.
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You know, I think that's
very key in never giving up.
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It's so easy just to, you
know, especially when you have
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put out 50 applications.
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None of those
jobs have called you.
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Nobody seems to be interested.
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That's about the
easiest thing to do is give up.
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Right.
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You know, but we can't
give up especially, you know,
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choosing Jesus.
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Talk about that for a
little bit how Jesus helps us
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to get a job, how
Jesus will help us.
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Because the Bible says,
"Cast all your cares upon Jesus
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because He cares."
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He wants to help you.
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Talk about that
for a little bit.
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Well, I believe in people
having an intimate relationship
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with the Lord.
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Because He has the ability
to see not just who you are,
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but who you can be.
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And you need to tap into
Him and you need to understand
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that He is able to open
doors that you never dreamed.
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But you have to be
willing to understand
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that He is everything.
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And just go to Him and
say, "Look, I need a job.
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You have a job for me."
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Tell Him the
truth. Tell Him the truth.
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"I absolutely need a
job, and I'm willing to do
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whatever it takes for me to
do exactly what I need to do."
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And I can only
use that information
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and transfer it
over to loving God
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and understanding
that He's in your corner.
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And just do it, just do it.
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But you have to do
it every single day.
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You have to get up,
get your orange juice
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or whatever you drink.
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Hey, eat the breakfast.
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And you sit down and you
have a plan for that day.
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And that has to be consistent
and the reality of it is,
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is that anything
you do for 21 days
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becomes a habitual habit.
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That's true, that's true.
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After 21 days of
doing the same thing,
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it starts to form new
pathways in the brain.
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So people have
to be able to say,
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"Look, you know
what, for the next 3 weeks,
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for the next 21
days, that's all it is,
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I'm gonna get up,
and I'm gonna get out,
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and I'm gonna do something."
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Twenty one days.
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And what happens is it
becomes a new habit, a new form,
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based upon the new
synapses in your brain,
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things start firing and things
start moving in the brain.
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Next thing, you know, the
person has made this a habit.
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It's kind of
like, look, if I say,
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"I'm gonna start
going to bed at 7 o'clock,"
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it's gonna be hard at first.
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It's gonna be
very, very difficult
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especially if you're used
to staying up 11, 12 o'clock,
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you know, real late at night.
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But then you say,
"I must try at 7:00.
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For 3 weeks you
do it, it's a habit.
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Right. It's a habit.
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What I want you to do
right now is take some time,
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go real slow so that people can
get your contact information.
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I want you to give
them your phone number,
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your web address, so
that people can contact you
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to learn more
about this organization.
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You can visit our website at
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www.jas4you.org
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Again, that's www.jas4you.org
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Or you can contact us
by phone at 888-527-1670,
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that's 888-527-1670.
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Viewers, that's
some great information
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that you just received.
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You want to
definitely go on the website.
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You want to call
the phone number.
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You want to get
some of this information.
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It may not be
with this organization.
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It may be with
another organization.
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But I encourage you, you got
to get up, you got to get out,
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you got to do something.
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We can't just sit
there and do nothing.
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We have to do something if
we desire to succeed in life.
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Miss Hollmon, we appreciate
you for being on the program.
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But actually,
viewers, this isn't it.
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This is not actually it
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because we're gonna do a
part two with you, Miss Hollmon.
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Oh, wow.
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And you know what, it's gonna be
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even more practical, viewers.
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It's going to be
a lot more practical
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dealing with how
should you dress.
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How should you
dress for a job interview?
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How should you carry
yourself on a day-to-day basis?
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You definitely want to
make sure to tune in next time.
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Do you have any closing
remarks for the viewers?
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Be persistent, be
consistent, and be determined.
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Amen, amen. You heard those.
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You have a challenge, viewers.
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We encourage you to heed that,
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and be
determined, be encouraged.
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At the end of the
day, trust in Jesus.
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The Bible says, "Cast all your
cares upon Him for He cares."
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And I tell you, if you
seek first the kingdom of God,
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He will add every
other thing to you.
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Be it a job, be it a
house, be it a spouse,
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whatever it may be,
call on the name of Jesus,
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and He will help you.
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He will help you
give that push along
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to what you need to do in life.
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This has been a new journey,
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and we encourage
you to join us next time
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for another exciting program.
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We'll see you
next time, viewers.
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Be blessed.
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