The following program
discusses sensitive issues.
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Parents are
cautioned that some material
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may be too candid
for younger children.
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Welcome to "The New Journey,"
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the program where
we'll meet real life people,
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with real life testimonies,
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with real life
working ministries for Jesus.
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Today we'll meet
two more gentlemen
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from Memphis, Tennessee,
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which both have a
passion for prison ministries.
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We'll find out how
they're working to establish
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Seventh Day
Adventist transitional housing
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for ex-offenders
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and how you the viewer
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can share this
dream along with them.
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I'm you're host Aaron Chancy.
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Come join us on The New Journey.
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Welcome back to the program.
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We have two exciting
guests for you today.
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We have Elder Leo Tate
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and we have
Brother Johnnie Duncan.
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Brother Johnnie Duncan,
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we want to spend some
time talking to you first.
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How long have you been involved
actively in prison ministries?
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I've been
involved in prison ministry
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for approximately four years.
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Okay, about four
years in prison ministries.
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Now what led you to want to get
involved in prison ministries?
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Well, when I came
back into the church,
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the Holy Spirit led me
into going to prison ministry.
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Okay, okay.
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You know, it's
always good to heed
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what the Holy
Spirit tells us to do.
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So you heeded call.
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God called you to
prison ministries' work.
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You've been involved in
it for about four years.
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Now you have a team
entitled, "Search and Rescue."
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Tell me a little bit about
this Search and Rescue team.
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The Search and
Rescue team that we have
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is a team put
together to go back,
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search and
rescue, find the lost.
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Inside of the jail. Okay.
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What's it like for those
who have never been in prison
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or have never been
involved in prison ministries?
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What's it like going
into, into the prisons?
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Well, when you are on
fire with the Holy Spirit,
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you don't have any problem.
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The only thing you try to
do is listen to the Holy Spirit
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and that was a...
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my first time, was
going in there was working,
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but...
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just under the
Holy Spirit you'll go.
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Okay, now what some of the work
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that you do while
you're in the prison?
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Well, when we go in there
the first thing that we do is...
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we open up with prayer
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then we'll come with
the singing, testimonies,
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after that we'll open
up with a Bible study.
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Okay, now what kind of
Bible studies do you use
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when you minister to
the inmates in there?
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Amazing facts. Okay.
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Steps to Christ
Bible studies. Okay.
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Home and Health education,
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Bible reading and Bible answers.
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Okay, so in giving these
Bible studies have you seen
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that it's had a
profound effect up on the ones
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that you've given
the Bible studies to?
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Yes sir, yes sir. Okay.
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It has had, had a main effect
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on the people
inside of the jail.
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Okay, now with
that said, how about,
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you know, often in times
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when we're
involved in ministry work,
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we're receiving
the blessing as well.
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Not only as the one
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that you've
given the Bible study
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to receiving the blessing,
but for your own spirituality.
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I want you to speak
about how prison ministry work
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has impacted your
own spiritual life.
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What a prison
ministry work does for me is,
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it keeps me on
fire, keeps me focused.
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Okay. On doing my Father's will.
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He told, Peter,
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that before he left
he asked him three times,
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"Do you love me?"
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And then He close it
off with him he said,
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"If you love me," do
what? "Feed my sheep."
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Amen.
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So that's the ride I'm on.
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That's the roll
that I'm on, to go back,
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search and rescue,
find one of His children
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before, before
midnight falls down in.
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So you're seeking the lost?
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Yes, seeking the lost.
Amen, seeking the lost.
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Now you go inside
of male facilities
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as well as female facilities.
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Talk about the
difference of going into
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male verses female facilities.
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On Saturdays we enter
into the female facilities.
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Sundays we go into
the male facilities
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and the only
difference is the sex.
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Okay. I guess
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that's the only
difference because
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both the male and the female,
they're receiving the blessing
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or for matter of
fact, they look forward.
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There are at the
bars, there're at the gate
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or at the door, waiting on us...
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Expecting you'll come.
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Yeah, they call us by our name.
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Okay, now you've
been in prison ministries
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for about four years.
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I know you've got a
whole stuff of success stories
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or stories that
you want to talk about
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that you have gone
through your program.
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Tell us a little
bit about someone
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that has had a success story
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based upon you're
prison ministry work.
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Well, we've had one,
where we went to the third,
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well, we've had more than one
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but we've had one that in
mind that I'm thinking about.
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We went up on the
third floor in 201 Poplon.
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And he say he heard,
he came in that night
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and he was just thirst and
then when we looked up there
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he was when he got out,
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he came inside of
a Longview Heights,
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Seventh Day Adventist church.
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And he's been there ever since.
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Amen, Amen.
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You know, it's got to
be a good feeling to...
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to know that
people being touched
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and blessed by
your ministry work,
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that has to be a great feeling.
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A beautiful feeling.
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What makes me cry is
when I'm at the store
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or out in the street and
somebody say Elder Duncan,
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do you know me and a couple
them I remember and some...
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Some you just don't.
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I don't and he or she
will say, Elder Duncan,
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keep coming, keep coming.
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And it makes me
break down and cry
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because they let me that what?
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Something good
is going on. Amen.
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Now are there ones
that you tend to work with
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that you notice,
that you spend time
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working with them in prison,
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they get out of
prison they get out of jail,
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whatever it may be and you know,
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they are on fire for the
Lord while they were in prison,
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but then they get out
and some thing happens.
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They end up back sliding
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because of
certain circumstances.
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Do you find that there are
some or large number of them
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that back slide
because of lack of resources?
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Yes sir, quite a few
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because they need a
facility, they need a job,
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they need help
when they get out,
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they need help
when they get out,
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someone to reach
out and help them
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to keep them up on their feet.
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So with these lack of
resources, this lack of housing
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this tends to be
the underlined factor
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why people are repeat offenders.
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Right, yes sir. Okay, okay.
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Now what we want
to do right now is,
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we want to
transition to, elder Leo Tate.
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We want to talk
to Elder Leo Tate
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about something
special that he has,
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the program that he has going.
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But first we're going
to find out about you,
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Elder Leo Tate,
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how long have you been involved
in prison ministry work?
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Forty years plus. Okay.
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Forty years plus.
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Now you are the director
of this prison ministry team
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at the Longview
Seventh-Day Adventist church.
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How has that been
being the director
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of this great
team that you have?
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Well, it has it's good
times and has it's bad times,
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we have about twenty...
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plus people that not only
coming out of Longview Heights,
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Seventh-Day Adventist church
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but they are ten
Adventist churches
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in the city of Memphis.
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And most of them had
someone that's in their church,
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that's involved with
us in prison ministry.
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We like, normally
meet once in the month
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to try to get
everybody on, on the same page.
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Okay, okay.
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Now there's others besides,
brother Duncan and yourself
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that are involved in
this prison ministry work.
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Talk a little bit
about some of the others
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that are involved in
your prison ministry thing.
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We have a couple of other elders
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that, Elder
Yates or Wilson and...
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And some of the...
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some deacons and some...
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other people that's
really, really involved.
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Like, Elder Duncan
said, we go on Saturday
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to two institutions on Saturday
and go to one on Sunday.
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So that's been a blessing to
us to have enough people to go.
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But one of the
things about that,
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they don't
always stay, you know.
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Sometimes we got
to pray and ask God
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to send other
workers in the vineyard
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because that
sometime they, you know,
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stay there for a while
and then, but it has to be,
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you have to have a
passion for this, you know.
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Yeah, you got to have a passion.
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You know, the thing about it
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involved in any
kind of ministry work,
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that's, that's a real
key, is having a passion
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for what you're doing, you know.
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That's what Jesus had,
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as He went about
lavering on earth
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he had a passion for humanity
and we have to have that same,
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same exact passion as
we minister it to others.
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Is Memphis, is the
area of Memphis, Tennessee,
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is it a high crime area?
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Speak about that.
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Yeah, it's a high crime area...
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and actually
it's a high crime area
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in every state that
you go in, you know.
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Yeah, especially in the city.
We're living in our last days.
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And, anything's going
to happen and, you know,
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so there are lot of other people
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that's been involved
in crime and whatever.
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Only God, something
has to happen to you,
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drastic has to happen to you,
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you know, for you
to get the knowledge.
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You know, to realize that hey,
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you know, I got to make
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some drastic
changes in my life whatever.
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Okay, okay.
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Now I want to talk a little
bit about The L.I.A house.
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You told me
about the L.I.A house.
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I want to talk to
you some more about it.
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I want the viewers to understand
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what the L.I.A house is.
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First of all, what
does "L.I.A" stand for
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what does that
actually stand for?
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L.I.A stands for
Laymen In Action.
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Laymen In Action. That's okay.
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So they are so
they're not sitting down.
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They're working,
they're in action.
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They're not sitting down,
we're not going to sit down,
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we can't sit down.
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The time is short.
Okay. Time is short.
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We got to continue
to search and rescue
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as, elder Duncan, has said.
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To get out and try to,
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you know, bring God's
children that are lost, back.
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Because there's a lot of
people that's incarcerated.
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They don't really
know the word of God.
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Yeah, that is true.
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And, you got a
lot of false profits
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that... telling people--
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But main thing is
that you got to study
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to show yourself approved.
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That's true. You know, unto God.
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God is holding you
accountable for the opportunity
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that you have to come
in and study the word.
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And it's all about choices.
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We make good choices
or we make bad choices,
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but God is asking us,
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"If you love me
keep my commandments.
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You do what I say."
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And that's the
basis of it. It's love.
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"If you love me," Jesus
says, "keep my commandments."
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It's not to forced allegiance
or anything like that.
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It's all based out of love.
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Now dealing
with the L.I.A house,
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you seemed to have a
passion for this kind of work.
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What is your vision
for the L.I.A house?
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Well, the vision for L.I.A,
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I've had this
vision for approximately
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for four, four or five years.
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That when ex-offenders,
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homeless veterans
they have no place to go.
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When we minister to the people
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that's incarcerated and
they get out, we baptize.
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We baptized a lot of people,
well, we lose a lot of people.
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Is because if we
don't had a facility
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to bring these
people in the end,
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to let them have get, you know,
let them have peace of mind,
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being able to--
now in the morning
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when they wake up,
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they know they
going to have breakfast,
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you know, they got a
place to take a shower.
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So you're just tying to provide
basic necessities and things.
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Basic necessities,
that's what it take
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and this is what God
is expecting out of us.
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You know, and some of us have
a little more than the others.
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But God, we all
on the same level,
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none of us,
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I don't care how much money
you have or education whatever
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God still look at all of
us the same and He'll say,
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" I love you, with
the everlasting love."
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"And with loving
kindness have I drawn you,"
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in His prison so that
I can get your attention
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and when I get your attention,
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then your mind
start to wondering
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what must I do to be saved.
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Yeah, that's true, that's true.
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And God is just so good,
man. Oh, yeah, He is, He is.
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You know, we actually have
some pictures of the L.I.A house
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that we're going to
show in a few seconds.
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But first of all,
I want you to talk
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a little bit about the baptisms.
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You mentioned
baptisms that you have going on
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in your prison ministry work.
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And I'm sure you noticed that
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when certain
ones are coming out,
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they are on fire for the
Lord but they tend to backslide.
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But I wanted you to
talk about the baptisms
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that are going out
inside of the prisons.
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The Seventh-Day Adventist,
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you know, there are other
the denominations coming in.
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And they kind of have a problem
with the Seventh-Day Adventist
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because we study the
word we about the word of God.
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Yeah, about the word of God.
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And the other denominations
are approached all the time
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with the word of
God and this is why
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there a lot of
the other ministers
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are having problem with us.
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But in the mean time
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we have these lessons
studies that we go through.
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But main thing is that I want
you to know the word of God,
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so I'm going to put
something in your hand.
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And to know it for yourself.
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Yeah, we, we want
to read this together
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and it's had been a
great impact upon the inmates
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is because of they are
being able to stand up.
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I present something to
them, Bible reading for home,
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and some of the other lessons
studied that we have prepared,
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that they will take part in.
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I say, now what does this,
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what does this
script mean to you
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tell me about it and you
know, some they start often
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you know, some
they don't really go,
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but in turn we
will go and explain
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that particular text to them,
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but then when they leave
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they know hey, I
understand it now.
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So you're not
just preaching to them,
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you're making
sure that they actually
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understand the
Bible for themselves.
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That's right.
That's good. That's good.
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Our agenda is so
structured. Okay.
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It's pathetic, but we
know, we know what we have.
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We know what God
have blessed us with.
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And we know what God
would do for us being shown.
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No, I don't believe
there's any other church
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in the
conference that had baptized
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as many people
that we have baptized.
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And it's all
about the Grace of God.
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He's all him. Amen.
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It's not, it's not
us. Yeah, it's God.
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It's Christ that's in
us that calls us to go out
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and it's the thing that
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you have to be
consistent with God.
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These 40 plus years
that I've been in it,
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you know, there's
been ups and downs
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but I've been consistent.
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And it's just
something about God
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but I have a
family but my wife know
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when Saturday evening comes
or when Sunday evening comes,
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you know, it's all
about me going to the jail.
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Amen.
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I tell some of
them, I've been in jail
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longer than you've
been in jail, you know.
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And, but it's a blessing,
it's a passion that I have.
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And I can tell both of
you seem to have a passion
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for prison
ministries' work, that's good
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you know, God has set a firefs
in both of you to do this work.
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I wish many more people
would get involved in this work.
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Do you both encourage others
to get involved in this work?
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Brother Duncan,
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do you encourage others
to get involved in this work?
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All the time, 24,24.
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24,24 I like that 24,24.
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How about you, Elder Tate?
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All the time,
we had a new family
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that came in to
church last Sabbath
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and they were
from Dothan, Alabama.
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Okay.
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And as soon they walked
into the door, they're just,
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looked like a
beautiful couple, young couple
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and the first thing that I said,
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man, we have the greatest
prison ministry anywhere,
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you got to be a part of it.
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And we just started talking.
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Most of the people
that come in church,
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they got to get
involved in some thing
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because if you don't
get involved in something
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that is in a church of
soul winning ministry, you know,
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it seem like you're
living is really ain't right.
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Yeah, that's true.
You got to do something.
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God put us, He put
us here for a reason.
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He put us here to
glorify Him, no other reason.
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No other
reason. No other reason.
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Is to glorify God and
when you do that you know,
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you'll have that peace
within and I just love it.
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I love it. I understand.
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Now I asked
brother Duncan earlier
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what effect prison ministry
has had on his spirituality,
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how about your spirituality?
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What kind of
effect does it had on you?
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You know, 40 plus years,
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you know, it has done something.
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You know, what I believe is,
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no, it has been beautiful
to me and I'm learning how to,
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you know, to humble myself more
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and start giving
more love for people
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and being concerned
about, you know, this ministry.
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And just really getting
out and this L.I.A house, man,
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it's exactly what we need.
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It's exactly what we
need. It has 128 rooms in it.
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It has two floors, it
has east wing, west wing.
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And we're dealing
with homeless veterans
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and ex-offenders
and male and female...
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Okay, male and
female facilities.
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Man, and I love it.
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I'm asking God to give it
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because I
claimed it through years
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and everybody in
the ministry that we--
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the prison ministry that we have
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they all are praying for
it, we're all on one accord.
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Okay. You know what?
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Now what we're going to do,
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we're gonna show some
pictures of the L.I.A house
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and as we show these
pictures I want you to describe
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what's going on
in these pictures.
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What area we're at,
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talk a little bit about
the various different pictures
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so people can get a idea
of what the L.I.A house is.
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Okay.
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That particular
picture right there
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is one of the auditorium
that this particular house has.
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That's a big auditorium.
Yeah it's a large auditorium.
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That's a chapel, we could hold
pretty much about 350 people.
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Wow, 350 people. That's amazing.
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And that's the
building right there,
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that building cost
1.3 million dollars.
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Okay. 1.3 million dollars.
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There's nothing
too hard for God.
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That's true. That is true.
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And it's a beautiful building,
that's the kitchen there.
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We want to feed the people.
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We want them to know
this is God's program
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and this is
what we are all about
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is bringing people to Christ.
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God said, "I will
provide all your needs."
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Okay, that is true.
And we're asking God.
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It has the big lounge in there
and big, have hall down there.
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And God, it's everything that's
in that building we needed.
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I'm claiming it. Amen.
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I'm claiming it. Amen.
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And I know that
God will give it to us.
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Okay, I want to talk to
about the cost in a second
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but I want to come
back over Brother Duncan.
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Brother Duncan,
you've seen the building,
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I'm sure you've been
out to in the real life.
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You've seen the pictures of it.
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Do you think
that this is the key,
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to the underlining
key of what people need
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to have better success
out there in the world?
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Yes, sir, they need that,
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they need help when they come
from out from behind those bars
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they need that help.
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Okay, so as you all are working
actively inside of the prisons
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when God blesses
you with the L.I.A house
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you will do Bible
studies there, you will--
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What some of the other things
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that you all do
inside of that cell?
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We'll do Bible
studies, we'll do counseling.
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One other thing is we
really, really want to do,
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we're going to focus on
getting families back together.
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Okay, that's the real key.
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Because you know, that when
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some time these
guys get incarcerated
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and they didn't
leave home right, you know,
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and so we are trying to
get the families back together.
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We would invite the families,
have the counseling sessions.
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We have GED classes,
we have nutrition classes
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and there's art
and graphic and arts
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and lot of other
programs that we have
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that's gonna make this
thing really, really global
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because we want
to educate the people
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but we want them
to feel accountable.
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And we know that we want them,
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we want to prepare
them for Christ's coming.
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Yeah. Amen.
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And to really indoctrinate
them that God love them.
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Amen. And He has chosen them.
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He has allowed things to happen
where they will come to Him.
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You know, make a choice.
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Yeah. That's what it is.
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You either making a choice for,
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it's either for the good
or either just for the bad.
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Yeah, that's
what the Bible says,
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"Choose you this day
who you going to service."
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It's all about
choices. It's no in between.
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I tell them all that
there's no in between.
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"It's you either for
me or you're against me
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and I drew you in this prison
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because I wanted to
get your attention."
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Okay, one
interesting thing that I find,
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you stated that,
you're gonna be working
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to bring families back together,
00:20:09.20\00:20:10.97
you know, what's interesting
in a lot of homes these days
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is the father is not
present, he's absent.
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And what Satan has
been able do with that is,
00:20:16.24\00:20:19.55
you know, in the Bible God is
viewed as our Heavenly Father.
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Right, right.
00:20:22.12\00:20:23.45
So what Satan has
strategically done is
00:20:23.49\00:20:25.65
moved the earthly
father out of the home.
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So when it's time
for male or the female
00:20:27.89\00:20:29.69
to relate to
our Heavenly Father,
00:20:29.72\00:20:31.86
that connection is not there.
00:20:31.89\00:20:33.23
Simply because how can you
relate to the Heavenly Father
00:20:33.26\00:20:36.20
when you have no connection
with an earthly father
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and the Heavenly
Father, you can't see.
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And for most young people,
00:20:40.34\00:20:41.70
they don't see their earthly
father on a regular basis.
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You know, so that is very
key to provide that resource
00:20:44.34\00:20:47.98
that bringing
families back together
00:20:48.01\00:20:50.01
because the
husband is the house-man.
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He's the priest of the home
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and he is needed there
to help with the family.
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And not only that.
00:20:55.82\00:20:57.15
He said, "Go ye
therefore into all the world
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and teach and preach."
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And this is, we gotta teach
these men how to be fathers.
00:21:01.49\00:21:04.99
And the wives, how
to be mothers, you know,
00:21:05.03\00:21:08.20
and how to take
care of these kids,
00:21:08.23\00:21:09.83
you know, some of the parents,
they're cutting the heads off.
00:21:09.86\00:21:13.60
They doing it and
throwing them in a dumpster.
00:21:13.64\00:21:16.07
But see, they don't know Christ,
00:21:16.10\00:21:18.61
most of them, this is why
these things are happening
00:21:18.64\00:21:20.98
because they don't know Jesus.
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Okay.
00:21:22.38\00:21:23.71
Once they've introduced to Jesus
00:21:23.75\00:21:25.51
then they can
live a productive life.
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Okay.
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This is why God wants
you to depend upon Him.
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He don't want you to
depend on anybody else.
00:21:31.99\00:21:34.16
So, when we depend on God
00:21:34.19\00:21:35.96
then things will
start running smooth.
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"I will not put no more
on you than you can stand."
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Than you can
bear And God love me.
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That's right, now
you've stated a few minutes ago
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that L.I.A house would be
about 1.3 million dollars.
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Talk about the total
cost of this facility.
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The total cost with renovation
and really preparing yourself,
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the beds and everything,
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we're running about
5.5 million dollars.
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5.5 million dollars. Okay.
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You know, nothing's too
hard for God, bottom line,
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nothing's too
hard for God, you know,
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it's easy to sit back and
say, wow, 5.5 million dollars,
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stomach starts
cringing and things like that.
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But nothing is too hard for God.
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We have to move out by faith
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and the Bible
says in Hebrew 11:6,
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"Without faith it's
impossible to please him."
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Amen. We have to
step out in faith.
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We serve a big God. Amen.
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You know, I heard people say,
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when you trying to
start at too small,
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I start out the way that
God impressed upon my heart.
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He tells me what He'd do for me.
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"I'll give you to
desires of your heart."
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Okay. Yeah.
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And this is why
I know this is God.
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But we're living
in the last days,
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we don't have time on this earth
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to be playing
around and doing things.
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What we got to do,
we go to do it quickly.
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And God said,
"I'll be there for you,
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I won't leave you
and I wont forsake you."
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That's right.
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And that's what
I'm depending on.
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Amen. Amen.
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Now I want to come
back to you, Brother Duncan,
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being involved in prison
ministries work for a while,
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you've worked with
the younger community,
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you've worked with older folks,
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tell about the
experience of working
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with young people like 19,
20 years old, incarcerated.
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Talk a little bit
about that experience.
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Going back in
there working with them
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is like working is like
working with a little child
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that's beginning to walk up
and they want to feel loved.
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Most of them have
never picked up the Bible.
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We take Bibles in there to them
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and then begin to just talk
to them like I would to my son.
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Okay, do the young
people seem receptive
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to the work that
you all are doing?
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Very receptive, I have to say
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and what would
make you cry again
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is when you go
into the big prison
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three or four years later
and they say, "Elder Duncan,
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you remember me
from the juvenile?
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Wow.
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Yeah, that's
totally a different story.
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Yeah, wow!
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You know its
interesting that, you know,
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often times God has able to
reach us at our lowest points.
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I know for myself, I
had to hit rock bottom.
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Now I had already
spent time incarcerated.
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It was a few years later,
but I had hit rock bottom.
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So a lot of times
the young people maybe
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be reached by
hitting rock bottom
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by being
incarcerated in terms of
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when you look around
at a lot of churches today
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the young people
just non-existent.
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They're non-existent
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because a lot of
them, they want to go out
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and experience life, maybe they
haven't hit rock bottom yet,
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but they are ones that
you've met in prison, correct,
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that have hit rock bottom
and want, they desire a change.
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Right. They desire a change.
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Okay, what I want
you do, Brother Duncan,
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is look into the camera,
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I want you to
talk to the viewers,
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those who have not chosen
Jesus, chose to serve Him,
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the Bible says, "Choose you
this day whom you will serve."
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And I want you to speak
some words of encouragement
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to the mothers, to the fathers,
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to the sons or the
daughters out there,
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that are, that are
struggling on a daily basis.
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Speak, speak to them. Right.
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What I really
like you to tell is,
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"So the body
without the spirit is dead,
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faith without
the works is dead."
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John 1:12 tells me,
"As many has received Him,
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He gave them power
to become sons of God,
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even to them that
believed on His name."
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So the only thing I can tell you
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while we still have
time down here, stop!
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Turn back around run back
to Jesus, come back to Jesus.
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Amen, Amen.
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Powerful short sermon, powerful.
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Elder Tate, I want
to come back to you
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for a few moments,
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also give a
word of encouragement
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to the many viewers out there,
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that maybe watching,
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that may have sons or
daughters as well struggling.
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Speak some words of
encouragement to them as well.
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My encouragement is
to, Christ is the answer.
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Okay.
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Without Christ we
can't do anything.
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So many times the people
are relying on other things.
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Yeah, that is true.
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And the younger people, I
have a problem with people,
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well, they need to, the
kids need to do is they need to,
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they need to know Jesus.
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When they need to know Jesus
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and then the parents are
not stepping up to the play.
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Yeah.
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He said "train up a
child in a ways to go
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and when he get
old he won't depart."
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He didn't say that
the child wouldn't astray.
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But He said, if he
astray he won't stay.
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So when we
actually start really doing
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what Christ would
have us to do as parent,
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we will see the results.
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Amen. God is able to deliver.
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You don't have to
compromise to the world
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in order for your children
to do that which is right.
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If you're doing your
part, these things won't happen.
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That's true, you
know, that's interesting
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that you sure
mentioned proverbs 22:6,
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"train up a child in
a way that he should go,
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when he's old he won't
depart from that path."
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You know, for years I thought
that text was saying, you know,
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you train them up and they're
not gonna leave the church
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and then I'm looking around
and saying, well, you know,
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they're constantly
leaving the church in droves,
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until a while ago I
understood the text to say,
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not that they
won't leave the church
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but they've gotten a foundation
to where they'll come back
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and the light of that is shown
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in the story of
The Prodigal Son.
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In verse 13 of Luke,
Chapter 15, it simply says,
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"And when he came to his
senses he went back home."
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That's what happened to me.
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Because he had a foundation,
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he had a foundation and he
knew where to come back to.
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And that's what so many
of our young people need,
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is a foundation in Jesus Christ.
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They may leave but
just like the prodigal son
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they will know
where to come back to
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and the beauty of it all
is with that story is that,
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Jesus stands with open arms
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to put you right back
into that same position.
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Everlasting love.
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That you had when you
left 'cause the son said,
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"look I'll take any position,
you know, make me a servant,"
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the father said,
"no, you're still my son."
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That's the beauty of
it, that is great news,
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that's the gospel.
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That is the
gospel. That's good news.
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Now I want you to
talk briefly about
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some of the
needs of the ministry,
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some of the needs.
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We need laptops, we need
Bibles and we need funds.
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For those who are
watching this telecast,
00:27:34.72\00:27:37.02
we'll make an appeal to you,
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please, make your donation
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to Longview Heights
Seventh Day Adventist Church
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in care of L.I.A
House, 685 East Mallory, 38106
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Memphis, Tennessee.
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Thank you so much,
looking to hear from you.
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God bless you. Amen.
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Thank you so much
for being on this show.
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I encourage you to
continue to press forward
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in prison ministries work.
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Viewers, you've seen and
heard for yourself this awesome,
00:28:01.64\00:28:05.48
awesome ministry for God.
00:28:05.51\00:28:07.45
You also can be
involved in prison ministry work
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or whatever ministry
work God maybe calling you to.
00:28:10.79\00:28:14.06
I encourage you
to heed that voice,
00:28:14.09\00:28:16.12
get up, get out
and get out there
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and do some work for our
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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Amen.
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