Hello and welcome
to The Missing Peace.
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My name is Jason Bradley.
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Dr. Nadine Joseph-Collins is our
primary host for this program.
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She's a Speaker,
Author and Teacher.
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Her main focus
and passion is prayer.
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Dr. Nadine is committed to
making our prayer life go "Wow!"
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Before we hear from her,
let's invite the Lord to join us
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"Dear Heavenly Father,
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we thank you for the
opportunity to serve you
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as we discuss the missing peace
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we ask that you
would please be with us,
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clear out anything that
would separate us from you
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and help facilitate
this conversation...
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Lord, guide this conversation...
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send your Holy
Spirit to be with us...
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in Jesus' name we pray, amen. "
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"Amen. "
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So, what is our topic for today?
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You know, we've been
talking a lot about prayer...
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trying to find
these missing pieces
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that would actually give us
the peace that we're looking for
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in our prayer lives
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and we've reached
somewhat of a culmination...
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not to say that we're
done knowing all we should know
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because there's so much more
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and even the concepts
that we have discussed...
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there's so much more
that we can learn from them
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as we continue to experience
God in our prayer lives
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and as we continue to grow,
He will reveal things to us...
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make old things new and so on
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but now we're
going to look at a topic:
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It is Finished...
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Unpack that for us.
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I often hear arguments,
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I'm sure you've
heard them too, right,
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like, which comes first?
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: The chicken or the egg
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or... which comes
first? The seed or the tree
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or where does the circle
begin and where does it end?
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Jason: Yes, I've heard that.
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Nadine: And these questions
in addition to other questions
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like, where does God
begin in your own experience
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and where does He end?
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And does God
still answer prayers?
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These questions
are sometimes linked
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to our belief
and existence in God
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and sometimes we are looking
for these types of answers
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and so, human beings...
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we are, in a sense,
desperately searching
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for our beginnings...
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that's why we ask
all of these questions...
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"Where does this
begin, where does this end?"
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And so, we have that
craving and that desire
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to search for our
beginnings so much so
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that western Black people with
some level of consciousness...
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not all of us but some people
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are spending a lot of money
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trying to get
answers about their...
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you know, their beginnings...
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people are
traveling across continents
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and they're doing
all kinds of tests online
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and different DNA tests
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so that they can
find some answers
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about their beginnings.
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I know quite a few people
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that have searched
for their beginnings.
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Really? DNA testing
and stuff like that, right?
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Absolutely.
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Yes, and we've all heard
even about kids who were adopted
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and raised by
really good parents
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but at some
point in their lives,
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they would want to know
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something about
their biological parents...
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Jason: Yes...
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Nadine: That's how much
we're caught up with beginnings
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and then we have
these fatherless children...
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their entire life...
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maybe they were
raised by a step-father
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or sometimes, they
have no father at all...
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but at some point
they want to know,
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"Hey, who is my real father?"
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And they would be
going in search of that
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and so, we seem to be caught up
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with beginnings or
answers about our beginnings
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and we're so much into that
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that we celebrate, most of
us, every year... our birthday.
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: Which signifies
our entrance into the world...
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then other people
will celebrate for example,
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the first day on a job or
the first day of college...
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the first day of
any level of school...
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and parents take
pictures of their kids...
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the first day
when they go to Pre-K
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and the first day when they...
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you know, High School and so,
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so, we mark our beginnings.
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: And we
also mark our "ends"
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but our "ends" are sometimes
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marked by either
great accomplishments
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or great disappointments...
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so, the great accomplishments
could be: Graduation...
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we all like to
celebrate graduation,
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I really didn't like graduation
but most people like graduation.
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Jason: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Nadine: Because it
signifies to people
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the end of something great...
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the reason why I didn't like it
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is because I
didn't know what was next.
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Jason: Yeah... yeah.
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Nadine: So, when I
know what's next...
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it makes it a
little easier for me...
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and so, people usually celebrate
or mark the ends as well
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so, we mark our beginnings
and we mark our ends...
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but technically, God
ends before He begins.
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Jason: Hmmm...
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Nadine: And that's what
we'll be exploring today.
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Jason: I was going to
say, "Elaborate on that... "
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let's unpack
that... I want to hear more.
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Nadine: Yes, so you see,
God ends before He begins,
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He finishes things
and then He starts them,
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right... and that's what I
want us to look at today...
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when God created man... Adam...
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there's nowhere in
the Bible that we read
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that Adam was born a baby
and he grew up into a man...
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God created Adam... man...
the full-grown man... the end...
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Jason: I see what you're saying.
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Nadine: And then, out of
Adam, He literally pulled us
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and then we began to make babies
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which we call "the beginning"
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but He started with a
full-grown man... the end...
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that is why in
Revelation 13 verse 8,
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we can understand
why the Bible says
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that Jesus was the Lamb slain
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from the
foundation of the earth...
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Jason: Hmmm...
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He did it then before
we saw it on the cross.
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: So, when we saw it
on the cross and He said...
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it was finished...
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it was already done from the
foundation of the earth, you see
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when we look at,
for example, Solomon...
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in Ecclesiastes
1 verse 9 he says,
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"That which has been done
is that which will be done,
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and that which has been
done is that which will be done.
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So there is nothing
new under the sun. "
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And repeatedly there we
see Solomon referring to the
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well, the Past Tense...
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something that
has already been done
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before he mentions the
present and then he says,
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"There is nothing
new under the sun... "
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so, he too was
speaking of the past... first...
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or the end... first...
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then, how can we use
that sort of principle...
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that Biblical approach...
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how can this
affect our prayer lives?
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And when we look at... like...
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ourselves in the
physical nature...
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when our parents' egg and sperm
correlated to form a zygote...
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to form... to form that cell...
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the color of your
eyes... I see today
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the texture of your hair...
the color of your skin...
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your height... your
size... everything I see now...
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already was in that cell
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which developed
into who you are today...
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so, what was in the cell
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now is strictly
unfolding who you are now
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or what was in the
cell is strictly unfolding
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of what was
already there in your genes
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into that cell that developed
into who Jason is today.
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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when we are oriented
to seeing the end first
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or seeing the end
before the beginning...
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we can understand why
God would say to Joseph,
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"Your brothers
will bow to you... "
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the end...
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now, go walk that
road... get thrown into a pit...
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get sold into slavery...
get forgotten in prison...
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but the end... I
have shown you, Joseph,
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what I have told you...
the promise I have given you...
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is that your
brothers will bow to you. "
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: And so, we see...
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God giving him
the vision of the end
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and then he is
going through a process...
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so, we must be on the other
side of the "Red-Sea people"
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because our
praise cannot take place
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when God actually
answers our prayers...
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our praise cannot take
place when the Red Sea opens
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when Pharaoh's army drowns
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or even when we've
reached the other side...
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because even demons
could give God praise
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when they see
these things happening...
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so, we have to be on the
other side of the Red-Sea people
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because being like God
means we see the end first...
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so, we are already on
the other side in our psyche
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even before we get
there physically...
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so, that is why we
could give God praise
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in the presence
of any circumstance
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because we know that the end...
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the promise that God has
already given... is done...
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that He said that we
are more than conquerors...
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there is nothing that
we will go through in life
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that will overtake us...
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so, if we are like Him...
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then, we'll be able
to see the end first...
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we will know for sure that
I've already won the victory...
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I'm already victorious...
I'm already a conqueror
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because God said that...
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so, we have to look
at... for example...
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even the example of Job...
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in Job 10, I
think... verse 12...
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where Job was in his
circumstance in Job chapter 10
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we know that he
was not delivered
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until somewhere after Job
chapter 38 when God spoke to him
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but in Job 10 verse
12, he is saying to God,
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"You have granted
me life and favor...
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and your care has
preserved my spirit. "
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Jason: Hmmm...
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Nadine: So, this man is
there... losing things...
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his health is being attacked...
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but yet, he can
still see the end
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because he knew for sure,
"Hey, this is not the end... "
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Jason: Yes.
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Nadine: "God has
something in store for me... "
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he didn't know that
his "double" was coming
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but he trusted God enough
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because, I guess, he
was so close to God...
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he had spent so much time
with God... he knew for sure
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that God would not allow
him to go through all of this
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if God did not have a plan...
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and so, his experience there is
really a blessing for all of us
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as we continue to pray
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when we take the
admonition of Paul
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and we can continue to
give thanks in everything...
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other parts of nature
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also testify of
God's way of operating
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I know you don't
like avocadoes...
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Jason: No... not at all...
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Nadine: But here we have
this avocado seed, right...
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so, when you have this seed,
what should the Christian see
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in light of what we
have just spoken about?
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Jason: Ah... I'd say
the full-grown tree...
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Nadine: That's
right, the full-grown tree
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or forest of
trees... of avocado trees...
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just send me the avocadoes...
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yeah... but this
Christian should see the tree
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because you see
in the seed here...
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is instructions for the
thickness of the leaf...
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the juiciness of the
bark... the size of the fruit...
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the shape of the fruit...
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all of that was
already in the seed
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and that's God's
way of operating...
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the same way we spoke about
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everything about
you being in the cell
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so, when I was a kid...
we used to eat tamarind...
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do you know what tamarind is?
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Jason: I've heard of it before
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but I don't
remember, what is it?
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Nadine: Okay, it's a fruit...
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I believe it's a
fruit... yes it has seeds in it
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it's a very small one...
it's brown and everything
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but tamarind... we used to
eat a lot when we were kids,
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you could get them sour...
you could get them sweet...
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right... so when we
would eat the tamarind seeds...
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we would pass around
and just drop them...
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you know, you just
drop the seed down...
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a few weeks
later, you would pass
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and you would see all of
these little sprouts coming out
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so the seed would be there
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but then you would
see all of these little...
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you know, things shooting out...
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: Of course, these days
people don't get this experience
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with all these GMO seeds.
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Jason: Oh yeah... GMOs are
in every single thing now...
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Nadine: Yes, so these GMO
seeds... you won't get that
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because generally,
they are created, of course,
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like the seeds that
God created except that
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they give you the instructions
of the fruit as well...
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the size, the
color, the shape...
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all of these were things that
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maybe not
reflecting the true fruits...
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if you know them... maybe from
a different side of the world...
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you would know that, "Hey...
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this is not really the
color of the fruit... "
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however, they also
have instructions in them...
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the only difference is the
seeds that God has given us
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like this avocado seed here,
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is supposed to give
us perpetual food...
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so, this would be...
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one avocado seed
would give us a tree
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which probably would give us
100s and 1,000s of avocados...
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and then the cycle is repeated
every time it's in season
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but with the GMO seeds...
you only get one harvest...
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that's the only difference...
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so, there we see the principle
of nature being exhibited there
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that the instructions...
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everything about the
fruit is here in that seed
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and when we look at that
and examine Jeremiah 29:11,
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one of my favorite
texts where it says,
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"For I know the plans I
have for you, declares the Lord,
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plans to prosper
you and not to harm you,
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plans to give you
hope and a future,
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to give you an expected end. "
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You see, the
promise of Jeremiah 29:11...
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God's expected end for us
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will help us navigate
the challenges of life...
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it will help us go through
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the times or the
periods in our lives
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when we are praying and
waiting for answers from God
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if we are able to see things
from a different perspective
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and that perspective,
we really need to see
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is really from
God's perspective...
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is that God answers
our prayers even before...
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you know the Bible says,
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"even before we
call on Him... " right...
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: These prayers
are already answered...
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so, seeing the end first,
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will help us to go
through life a little easier.
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When you are on a plane,
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the higher you go... the
smaller the objects appear to be
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are these objects
actually getting smaller
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or is it that... you're
just going higher in elevation?
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Jason: You're just
going higher in elevation.
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Nadine: And that's
simply it, you see the thing is,
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the higher we go with God,
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the smaller our
challenges seem to be...
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the smaller our
problems seem to be
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because we are
being raised in elevation
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we have a
different perspective now
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because we are
higher off the ground...
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and we need to
begin to look at life
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from a different perspective
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when we look at life
from God's perspective
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where He ends
before He begins...
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Jason: Yeah,
it's like spiritual...
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"Spiritual things are
spiritually discerned. "
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Nadine: Exactly.
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Jason: So, people that are...
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that don't have
God in their lives...
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that aren't Spiritual...
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aren't going to see
what's really going on.
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Nadine: Exactly... you see,
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I remember in 2004
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when I was going
to canvas in Canada,
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I had spoken to a few
friends about the program...
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who had been there
and they mentioned...
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it was a bit challenging
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but some older
person... a friend of mine...
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who had experienced
dealing with these students
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said to me, "You know, Nadine...
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it's challenging...
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you should speak to
this person or that person
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because they were
Leaders in these past programs
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and I'm telling you,
it's going to be very hard
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for you to make
that scholarship. "
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I called my dad
and I said to him,
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"I wanted to go do that... "
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and he said to me,
"But you never did sales...
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that's going to
be really hard... "
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but one Friday
evening I went to church
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and when we would walk through
the door, they would give...
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they would have a
bowl with promises
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and each person would get one,
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so, I picked one
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and the promise
was Isaiah 41 verse 19
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which says, "Behold,
I will do a new thing;
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now it will spring
forth; shall ye not know it?
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I will even make a
way in the wilderness,
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and rivers in the desert. "
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And I remember... after I
got that text that Friday night,
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even though these people
had my best interests at heart,
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I know they
cared for me and so on
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and they were concerned
that I would not make it,
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when I got that Word,
I held on to that Word
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and I believed that Word
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and I went to
canvas with that Word
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and God did not disappoint...
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He made a way in the wilderness
and He made rivers in the desert
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because I made my
scholarship for school...
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and so, what kept me going
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was the end... that
promise that God had given me
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and so, when we are
able to shift our perspective
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to seeing the end...
to seeing that promise,
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you remember, we spoke
about these promises as facts...
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the end... that's it...
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and now we work toward
fulfilling that promise
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so, I kept that
promise with me every day,
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I still have it in my Bible,
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I held on to it
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because of the Word
that God had given me.
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Another instance in my life
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was when He
directed me, of course,
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to go and do my Ph. D. in Asia,
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I didn't know how I
was going to go there,
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but I used a
procedure that psychologists use
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and I had not idea that that
was what I was actually doing,
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I would go on that website,
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I would take that aerial
tour of the university and so on
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and I would say to God...
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I saw the prayer
guide and I said to Him,
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"I'm going to
meet you there... "
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but every time I go
and I see that picture
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and I see the university...
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it kept me encouraged...
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because now I was
looking at the end perk...
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"This is where
you want me to be... "
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and Psychologists
encourage people to do that...
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they tell them,
"Put up a Vision Board. "
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Jason: Yes... yeah.
00:16:08.06\00:16:09.40
Nadine: Put the end perks
of what you want to become...
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the year you want to graduate...
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the job you want to have...
the car you want to drive...
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they are using
Biblical principles
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and getting all of
the accolades for it
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when really that
started with God...
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He is the One who said to
us, "I know what I have for you,
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these plans are
to prosper you...
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to give an expected end...
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I have that vision
already set for you
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and if you keep your
eyes on that vision...
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whatever happens in life
will not really deter you
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because you know you have
that great expected end. "
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Jason: Hmmm...
00:16:39.39\00:16:40.73
Nadine: So, some of our Viewers
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are worried about the
children that they birthed...
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they are worried about them
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because they probably
would have left the church,
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they are probably living lives
outside of what they were taught
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and God is saying to you,
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"Listen, didn't
you do your part?
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I said, 'Train up a
child in the way he should go
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that when he's
old, he will not depart'
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And if you did your part,
then you just need to relax
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and allow me to do my job
00:17:02.82\00:17:04.15
because my plan
for your children
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are still great plans... "
00:17:07.02\00:17:08.96
because the thing is, God
does not have grandchildren.
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Jason: That's true.
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You know, there's
nothing like a praying mom...
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when I was out there
doing everything under the sun
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that wasn't spiritual...
it was worldly or whatever...
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my mom prayed me
back in the church.
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Nadine: Amen.
00:17:27.84\00:17:29.18
Jason: And I
wouldn't be sitting here today
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if God hadn't
answered her prayer
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and worked on my heart.
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Nadine: Exactly,
and the thing is...
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your mom also had
already trained you
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in the way that
you should have gone
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so, your spirit would have
always been troubled out there
00:17:42.89\00:17:44.93
while she was praying for
you because you knew better,
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you see,
00:17:47.03\00:17:48.60
and so, God's expected end...
00:17:48.63\00:17:51.33
or God's plans
for us does not change
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according to our circumstance
00:17:53.74\00:17:55.07
and in your
story, we can see that
00:17:55.10\00:17:56.54
because He always had
that great plan for you
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so, even though
you were out there
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doing what you
think was your own thing,
00:18:01.34\00:18:02.91
I'm sure these experiences are
now instructing you, in a sense,
00:18:02.94\00:18:05.71
but His great expected
end for you came to pass
00:18:05.75\00:18:08.78
because you had a mom
who was praying for you,
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mom who believed that her
prayers would have been answered
00:18:11.22\00:18:13.96
because she knew that God
had great plans for her son.
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Jason: Hmmm...
00:18:16.73\00:18:18.06
Nadine: And so, His
expected end does not change...
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He said, "When you are
passing through the fire,
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I will be with you...
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when you are being oppressed,
I will be there with you...
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the rivers will
not overflow you...
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the fire will not consume you
00:18:28.47\00:18:30.17
because whatever
you're going through
00:18:30.21\00:18:31.97
I am still there with you
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because I have that
great expected end for you... "
00:18:33.44\00:18:35.54
and thankfully we know
00:18:35.58\00:18:36.95
that because He does
not have any grandchildren,
00:18:36.98\00:18:39.18
He is as
concerned about the children
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that every parent is
worried about... as God is
00:18:41.92\00:18:44.29
and He... God... is
probably worried even more
00:18:44.35\00:18:46.69
because these are His children
00:18:46.76\00:18:48.19
or concerned... I
should say, even more
00:18:48.22\00:18:49.99
because these
are also His children
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so the enemy's
plan for all of us...
00:18:52.43\00:18:54.70
even as you shared
your own experience...
00:18:54.73\00:18:56.83
is to destroy us...
00:18:56.87\00:18:58.20
and that's what he
tried with Joseph...
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when we look at
Genesis 50 verse 20,
00:19:00.14\00:19:02.94
the Bible says
there in Joseph's story
00:19:02.97\00:19:06.01
that you intended
it to be harmful to me
00:19:06.04\00:19:09.01
but God intended it for good.
00:19:09.04\00:19:11.15
Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:19:11.21\00:19:12.55
Nadine: So, there we are seeing
00:19:12.58\00:19:13.92
that even when the
enemy tries to derail us
00:19:13.95\00:19:16.35
from the plans
that God has for us...
00:19:16.38\00:19:17.79
of course, God's plan
will still be accomplished
00:19:17.85\00:19:21.16
and it's amazing how the
enemy interferes with us...
00:19:21.19\00:19:24.46
with our children...
00:19:24.49\00:19:25.83
with our families...
with our jobs and so on...
00:19:25.86\00:19:28.13
not because he cares so
much about these things...
00:19:28.16\00:19:30.53
what he's really after...
he's trying to affect our faith.
00:19:30.57\00:19:33.87
Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:19:33.90\00:19:35.24
Nadine: He's trying to
affect our belief in God...
00:19:35.27\00:19:37.51
he's trying to affect
the way that we trust God...
00:19:37.54\00:19:39.97
because if he can interfere
with everything around us,
00:19:40.01\00:19:42.44
then we may begin to doubt
that we have the covering...
00:19:42.48\00:19:44.88
we may begin to doubt
that God is really with us
00:19:44.91\00:19:47.55
but Job's example,
again, a clear example...
00:19:47.62\00:19:49.85
that even in the
midst of all of that...
00:19:49.88\00:19:52.12
we need to be faithful
00:19:52.15\00:19:53.49
because we know that
God is still in control
00:19:53.52\00:19:55.72
and that
end-plan is still there...
00:19:55.76\00:19:57.29
that is why we must be
00:19:57.33\00:19:59.33
on the other side
of the "Red-Sea People"
00:19:59.36\00:20:01.03
we can't wait to see God
work before we can testify...
00:20:01.06\00:20:04.37
we cannot wait for Him to bring
our enemies across the Red Sea,
00:20:04.40\00:20:08.34
drown them before
we can give Him praise,
00:20:08.40\00:20:10.41
we can't wait for Him to
heal us of our sicknesses,
00:20:10.44\00:20:13.27
save our marriage,
00:20:13.31\00:20:14.64
bring our
children back to church
00:20:14.68\00:20:16.24
provide them monies
that we're looking for
00:20:16.28\00:20:18.35
to pay off our debts...
00:20:18.38\00:20:19.71
or even give us
that job that we want...
00:20:19.75\00:20:21.65
that house or that car...
00:20:21.68\00:20:23.02
before we can give Him praise...
00:20:23.05\00:20:24.55
and that's why
Paul encourages us
00:20:24.62\00:20:26.62
in 1st Thessalonians 5 verse 18
00:20:26.65\00:20:28.59
that we must give
thanks in everything.
00:20:28.62\00:20:30.13
And there we saw Job,
of course, doing that.
00:20:30.19\00:20:32.46
Just imagine Moses...
00:20:32.49\00:20:34.10
Moses began to walk toward
the Red Sea... before it opened
00:20:34.13\00:20:38.60
you see, so he was
literally acting out
00:20:38.63\00:20:41.00
like when we
spoke about faith...
00:20:41.04\00:20:42.37
he was acting on
the faith that he had
00:20:42.40\00:20:45.21
because in his mind... he
was already giving God praise
00:20:45.24\00:20:47.51
"I'm already on the other side
even before that Red Sea opens"
00:20:47.54\00:20:50.18
and that's why we can
look at Revelation 6 verse 2
00:20:50.21\00:20:53.48
where John... on
the Isle of Patmos
00:20:53.52\00:20:57.25
sat there in a
state of hot oil...
00:20:57.29\00:21:00.99
they say, "boiling hot oil"
00:21:01.02\00:21:02.36
and there he saw Christ
riding on a white horse...
00:21:02.39\00:21:06.59
waving a flag...
00:21:06.66\00:21:08.26
now, other parts
of the Bible tells us
00:21:08.30\00:21:10.63
that any time we
see a white horse...
00:21:10.67\00:21:12.93
or we see that white flag...
00:21:12.97\00:21:14.34
it's because there was victory
00:21:14.37\00:21:15.70
so John was there
on the Isle of Patmos
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seeing the vision of
the end-time battle...
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the battle that
is not yet won...
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the final battle that
Jesus would actually fight...
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and so, there we are
seeing in our prayer life...
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the many times that we
are going through our process
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like, John was there...
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God already had the end-plan,
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John saw that final battle...
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and in our own
stories, when we are praying...
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God sees, of course, the end...
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He already knows the end...
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we don't see that end
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because, of course, we
are limited in our vision
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and I wanted to say something
quick about seeing the end first
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because most things
are two-times created...
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so, if you want to
create, let's say, this vase...
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or anything at all...
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you would first draw that
thing on a piece of paper,
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which is the end...
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if you want to build a
house, you need to have a plan
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and that plan shows how
many bedrooms you want to have
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where each of them
would be located...
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you will see where
the garage will be...
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the kitchen... the
bathrooms and so on...
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everything is already
there in the paper... the end...
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and then you begin
to build that paper...
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and so, when we
begin to apply that
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to our own personal
stories, you know...
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the Bible is so
filled with promises...
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the things that we
are worried about...
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He has already given us a
promise for each of them...
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the end... they are
just like that piece of paper
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that gives us that plan
for building that house...
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you see, and that's what really
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we need to be wired
to see the end first
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and once we are
wired to see the end first,
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seeing things from
God's perspective...
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it will save us a
lot of headache...
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a lot of heartache...
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a lot of disappointment
because we'll be seeing victory.
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Jason: Yeah.
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Nadine: We'll be
seeing the end...
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we'll actually be
dancing and praising God
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because we'll just be on top...
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because we know the
end is already predicted...
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and that's why God
wants us to shift our focus...
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He wants us to
see that end first...
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and in Deuteronomy 1 verse 8,
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God told Moses and Joshua,
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"Behold, I have set
the land before you...
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I have given you the
land... now, go and take it. "
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And this is so funny to me
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because if you tell me you're
giving me a piece of land,
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I would want you to
show me that deed...
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Jason: Yeah.
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Nadine: I want some evidence
that this land belongs to me
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but God says to these guys,
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"I have given you the
land, now go and take it. "
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So, the Word of
God... the Bible says...
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in the Bible it says,
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"When you pray...
believe you have it. "
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Jason: Yeah. Nadine: The end.
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
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Nadine: And then the Bible
says, "Then you'll receive it. "
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So, the Bible
doesn't say, "The end... "
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but it says, "When you
pray, believe you have it
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and you shall receive it. "
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So believe you have it...
the end... that's the state...
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you have it and
then you will receive it
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because the Bible
says, "The Word of God... "
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or, I think, Spirit of
Prophecy expands on that...
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"The Word of God
is like a seed... "
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and just like the
tree was in the seed
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but all you are
seeing is the seed...
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the Word of God,
Jesus says, is the seed...
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and once we understand
the parable of the seed,
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we understand the
parable of Scripture...
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the principle is this...
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when we have the Word...
we already have the "thing"
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when we have the Word,
we already have the "thing"
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because the
Hebrew word for "word"
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and the Hebrew word for
"thing" is the same thing
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and that is why in Creation
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Jesus could have said,
"Let there be light... "
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and "light" appeared and
continues to appear until now
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because His word
was the thing itself
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so He spoke these
things into existence
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and what is so amazing...
Jesus is also called the "Word"
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and the "Word" is
calling things into existence
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and so His Word was the things
that He was speaking Himself
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I mean, what a
mighty God we serve!
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Jason: Yes, amen.
Nadine: You know...
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that He was able to speak
these things into existence
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so just think about...
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if Joseph knew
when he had that dream
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that he would have one
day been in Pharaoh's palace,
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it would have made
his journey a lot easier
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and that's why I
mentioned earlier on,
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the plans of the
enemy to destroy him
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came back to be
the biggest blessing
00:24:55.19\00:24:56.93
"because what you
meant for destruction... "
00:24:56.96\00:24:59.23
he is saying,
"The Lord set this up
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so that I can be here to
save a lot of people... "
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so, in our stories...
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if we knew a lot of what we
are going through right now,
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you know,
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if we really knew the
end-plan that God had...
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then, you know, we
would trust Him more,
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and we would go through
our trials a little easier
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because knowing the
end... makes the journey easier
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but when we spend time in
the relationship with God...
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in fact, we should spend time
in our relationship with God,
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is only then, of course,
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we can get all of
that kind of revelation...
00:25:27.12\00:25:29.42
He can continue to
reveal His plans for us
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and we continue
to grow in Him...
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because God's
end-plan is a great plan
00:25:33.86\00:25:36.13
but everything that we
are going through in life
00:25:36.16\00:25:38.83
is preparing us for
what He's doing with us...
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and we need to
be intimate with Him
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in order that we would be able
to know these beautiful things.
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Jason: Yes... yes...
00:25:46.14\00:25:47.48
Nadine: We spoke
about intimacy earlier on,
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it's only through prayer
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that we could
grasp hold of the end
00:25:51.18\00:25:53.18
that God has in
mind for us as well.
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The problem with us is this,
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we have the seed in our
hands but we still doubt...
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Jason: That's a
severe lack of faith.
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Nadine: Yes it is
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because we refuse to
see the tree in the seed,
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all we are allowing our
minds to see is the seed
00:26:07.50\00:26:10.50
and I want to really
encourage our Viewers
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to see their life
stories... their experiences...
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everything...
through the eyes of God
00:26:19.11\00:26:20.91
because if we look at
it from God's perspective,
00:26:20.94\00:26:24.68
if we look at it from His side
of the table... we will realize
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that He always has a
great expected end for us.
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Now, the end and beginning are
truly concepts of the human mind
00:26:32.45\00:26:36.06
because God has no end
and no beginning, really...
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He's infinite...
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He has no space
and He has no time...
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His end-plan and His
beginning-plan is the same plan,
00:26:42.26\00:26:44.93
by the end of the day,
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the take-away points... I would
really like to leave with us
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is that, "God ends before
He begins in your story... "
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and we need to remember that,
"You are already victorious!"
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Jason: Hmmm... hmmm...
00:26:54.98\00:26:56.34
Nadine: The prayers
that He impresses you to pray
00:26:56.38\00:26:59.51
since we've really
have already established
00:26:59.55\00:27:01.68
that He is the One
who places in our heart
00:27:01.72\00:27:03.82
the will of what
we should ask for
00:27:03.85\00:27:05.92
these prayers are
already answered...
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we just need to be
patient in the process
00:27:08.12\00:27:09.96
and the last thing I really
want to leave with us today
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is that, "God's
end-plan for every one of us
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is still a great expected end!"
00:27:16.26\00:27:18.03
and that will never change...
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Let's say a prayer, "Father,
00:27:19.67\00:27:21.17
help us to see the end
even before our journey begins
00:27:21.20\00:27:24.57
because it will
help us worry less,
00:27:24.61\00:27:26.44
be more patient,
00:27:26.47\00:27:27.81
be more tolerant of
obstacles and criticisms...
00:27:27.84\00:27:30.55
open our eyes to see
the forest in the seed
00:27:30.58\00:27:33.31
to believe in
you and never doubt
00:27:33.35\00:27:35.28
so that we... in seeing
the end before the beginning
00:27:35.32\00:27:37.92
will be more like you, we pray,
00:27:37.95\00:27:39.35
in the name of Jesus, amen. "
00:27:39.39\00:27:40.72
Jason: "Amen. "
00:27:40.76\00:27:42.09
Thank you for that
powerful information Dr. Nadine.
00:27:42.12\00:27:44.49
Thank you for joining us,
00:27:44.56\00:27:46.53
we are engaged in a
spiritual warfare every day...
00:27:46.56\00:27:49.83
pray... Satan is
no match for God...
00:27:49.86\00:27:52.83
he's a defeated foe...
00:27:52.87\00:27:54.34
Jesus is the author and
finisher of our faith...
00:27:54.37\00:27:57.24
prayer and the Word of God
00:27:57.31\00:27:59.24
are our weapons against
the darkness of this world,
00:27:59.27\00:28:02.44
for victory...
spend time in prayer,
00:28:02.48\00:28:04.68
don't forget to
make prayer a priority
00:28:04.71\00:28:06.88
to supply the missing peace.
00:28:06.92\00:28:08.92