3ABN Today LIVE - 2nd Hour

Celebrating Life Around The World

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Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Danny Shelton (Host), Brad Peters, Cheri Peters

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Program Code: TLB011507


00:10 Hello and welcome back to 3ABN today live.
00:12 Thank you for joining us. I hope you got
00:15 to watch this first hour, if you didn't it's
00:17 not too late, we're gonna have a great
00:18 second hour, we already know one of the
00:20 reasons we knows we prayed and ask the
00:22 Lord to be here, amen, to rule and reign in this
00:24 session tonight, and we have felted.
00:27 And I don't know that I've ever, I have done
00:28 about 10 to 12000 programs, I don't know if
00:30 I've been involved in one that the first
00:32 hour is quicker. Lightening quick, that has
00:34 been for me, definitely the fastest program
00:36 I think we've ever, I've been involved in,
00:38 I couldn't believe the clock I kept looking and
00:40 said, what happen this hour, but that tells us
00:43 that we're where you had us you know,
00:45 sitting here on the edge of our seat Cheri.
00:48 We're with Cheri Peters and Brad her
00:50 husband Brad and I wanna thank you for
00:52 coming here to 3ABN and also want to
00:54 thank you for your friendship for not only
00:57 personally, ministry wise friend to 3ABN and,
01:01 amen, and friend of God of course, and I'm so
01:03 thankful for your own God's team.
01:05 And I know a number of people who tell me
01:09 Cheri Peter's programs has changed my life.
01:12 Meeting Cheri Peters has changed my life,
01:15 amen, because it gives me hope.
01:17 When I here where she's been from?
01:19 I said you know what? If she can do that I
01:21 can do it, amen. So, for you to stand up and
01:23 tell your testimony. Ellen White makes a
01:25 statement our Greatest Asset is our own
01:27 personal testimony and for what God has done
01:30 for us, amen. And you know, not only has God
01:34 given you this testimony, but now he
01:36 has given you incredible communication skills
01:39 to, to get this story out, yeah, and to do it with
01:43 the love and a fervor that people need to hear,
01:46 yeah, because I for one Brad said, well why don't
01:49 you join a Pentecostal church or what have you?
01:52 I'm frankly glad you, you join this one,
01:54 but that excitement you know; we can be
01:56 excited about things in this church too, amen.
01:58 And that's about Jesus and what He can do
02:00 for us, amen, and if we are not then maybe
02:02 shame on us, we should be more excited.
02:04 I go to churches and I tell the folks I traveled
02:07 around the world, I spoke into huge audiences
02:10 and you know, from small to huge audiences,
02:12 I don't get nervous anymore, it's been
02:13 26 years Brad, I say doctors and the attorneys,
02:16 and business people they don't intimidate me
02:18 anymore you know, but I'll tell you what does
02:21 intimidate me? Two things when you are too
02:23 quiet in church, the audience didn't talk bad
02:25 or when I know there is English teachers, yeah.
02:28 Those two things scare me and make me nervous,
02:30 so I say if you are an English teacher don't
02:32 let me know till after the day is over, yeah,
02:34 you know our services are over, but don't be
02:36 too quiet. And I tell folk when we're up upfront.
02:39 We don't wanna look like we're talking to people
02:41 who's been sucking on lemons all morning
02:43 before they came to church, yeah, we like to
02:44 see happy excited people, yeah, and we should be,
02:47 I mean who else should be more happy and
02:50 excited than Christians and Seventh-day
02:52 Adventist Christians who have present truth
02:54 to give to a lost and dying world, yeah.
02:55 And when the, the Bible says the joy alone is
02:58 our strength. Is our strength, is our strength.
02:59 Yeah, you were talking about being in,
03:01 in New Zealand just a couple of weeks ago
03:02 during that earthquake Danny and I were down
03:05 there couple of years ago and of course they,
03:06 they, they think its rude to talk when you're
03:08 singing on ministering? And we almost had a
03:10 heart attack trying to get those folks,
03:13 and like I said, no, no, no we'd never;
03:14 we would never talk back to you when you're,
03:15 when you're preaching you know.
03:16 You know what really I hate such thing.
03:17 But he did, they did loosen up some C.A. on
03:19 you before we left, yeah, yeah, we were
03:21 preaching each night and finally some really did
03:23 because I said, well for us we, we kind of our
03:26 respect is, not to be loud or not to be too noisy
03:29 and it's a respect you know to be quieter.
03:31 So, hey we, we honor that I mean we.
03:33 So, I was there couple of weeks ago and
03:36 we were doing after the Friday night meeting
03:38 there was five teams, New Zealand,
03:40 of pastors in New Zealand. There was five teams
03:42 of pastors and we were doing a prayer session
03:44 that lasted three hours with five teams. Wow!
03:47 And I mean it was just because the Holy Spirit
03:49 was there, and it was just incredible at our
03:50 camp meeting, but I'm praying and the whole
03:54 place is shaking and I mean we had just during
03:57 the prayer, just during the four hours I think
03:59 it was three different earthquakes during
04:02 that time, not major ones like they had.
04:04 You were thinking wow! There is power in His
04:06 prayer. Exactly, feels like the whole place is
04:08 shaking. Somebody saying, I'd like you to pray
04:11 for me because I'm fully, I'm, I'm just fearful
04:13 because we've had over 4000 earthquakes since
04:15 September and so as we were praying for her
04:18 fear, and I'm like, I didn't know how to do that,
04:22 but I, I want to just say to our friends in
04:24 New Zealand that we are praying for you,
04:26 and you have been through a lot in the last
04:28 little while. That's right, yes, yes.
04:30 And we, we love you and our praying for you,
04:32 I mean its, it's tremendous when you look
04:35 at the pictures and you look at the video,
04:37 the damage you know, to people and not at
04:39 only those lost their lives and those who
04:42 were injured, but just their ideas of homes and,
04:45 and buildings down and businesses and I mean
04:48 what this does to your lifestyle and, and
04:50 trying to get all of that back together.
04:52 But now that you have family all over the world
04:54 that really does love you. And it's really you're
04:58 on our heart and in our minds and I know that
05:01 at 3ABN here we have a lot of friends there,
05:04 and just that another people have been praying.
05:07 Yeah, wonderful. Yeah. Well, we were talking
05:09 about of course we will talk with Brad,
05:12 your husband and, and she had given us the
05:13 story and this was her short version believe
05:16 it or not, but through this hour I'll say its
05:18 quick version anyway, but we got all the
05:21 way through. Now, they're married and he
05:23 didn't know that he had, had married Sister
05:26 Teresa, her Mother Teresa just about sort of
05:29 speak because when you're married,
05:31 it wasn't, but all of a sudden you, you want
05:32 to get back to the Lord and in church,
05:35 not that you had totally left the Lord,
05:36 but you had left the building you call it,
05:38 and so you're back in other building,
05:40 so Brad says, well okay maybe I can go with
05:42 this, so you kind of just join the church and
05:45 feel like things are okay, yeah, but you really
05:47 don't have that desire to like she has to go
05:51 out and just Cheri wants to win the whole
05:53 world, yeah, yeah. Like I haven't seen anybody,
05:55 I've been in place with her. We went one night
05:57 to pizza place down in Marion with some folks,
06:00 and she wants to witness to everybody, yeah,
06:02 I mean she didn't even take time out to like
06:04 eat and you know talk, I don't care where
06:07 you are, she is gonna witness to people, yeah.
06:09 And then she wants to win the whole world,
06:10 but you're not quite at that point yet.
06:12 You know, let say she is like you know,
06:13 there is 20 foot ground fire, well I'm like a
06:15 little can that's turned over, trying to keep
06:18 the fun to soften you know. And, and so it
06:22 was real interesting, again I was teaching at
06:24 university, playing in the orchestra went to
06:27 this Jazz Festival and you know, she, she
06:30 would tell me from time-to-time you know,
06:32 God is telling me you're gonna lead this ministry
06:33 and I was like, yeah sure whatever.
06:35 And but it guns after a little while was kind
06:39 of like okay the Jazz Festival, the
06:40 administrative side you know, I was starting
06:42 to kind of burn out on that a little bit and
06:45 there was some change in the administration
06:46 at the university and, and I could kind of see
06:49 you know, okay maybe it's time to be doing
06:52 something different and what, what about
06:55 this you know, ministry and, and you know
06:57 I have been learning a ton of different skills
07:00 because of the festival, I mean production skills,
07:02 and event production, and dealing with people
07:04 and organization and, and you know all this stuff.
07:08 And so, kind of marching along and then lo
07:10 and behold that was like, well we've decided
07:13 not to renew your contract, I got laid off,
07:16 okay. So, now what, okay, time for me to come
07:20 to work, okay. Because now I believe right,
07:25 I'm good now, I'm good now, here we go
07:27 you know, and so it was real interesting to,
07:29 to kind. But at that point what was really
07:32 interesting is because I knew that it was like
07:34 it wasn't this heart felt thing. And so, I knew
07:36 that now we're gonna live together and work
07:38 together. And I had looked at him and I said,
07:39 do you know Hun unless you get like a year
07:42 of counseling that we had to start to learn as
07:46 we were together that it may mess us up
07:48 and so, we both started to look at who we
07:51 were communication skills and spiritually,
07:54 and at that point is when I watched Brad come
07:58 alive. Do you know what I mean? He started
08:00 to look at as a man of God, if he stood up
08:03 in that position with integrity, who is he as my
08:06 husband and at one point he came home from
08:09 ministry treat, he had never been to one.
08:10 If you haven't been to one and you're out there,
08:13 they, they change you. And so, he went to the
08:15 ministry treat and he came home and he sat
08:17 down across from me and he said, Cheri I'm
08:22 gonna win your heart everyday. Wow!
08:24 And I, that's what I said. Oh! Okay, yeah.
08:27 I said, I love ministry treat, are you kidding me.
08:30 That's really good. She loves ministry treat
08:34 now, yeah. And so, it was to me was real
08:36 interesting because we had, we had gone and
08:38 we started counseling, it was one of those
08:39 things and, and well this is kind of curious and
08:42 I hopefully speak to some of the other man
08:43 who maybe listening to this. For as crazy as
08:46 her background was and you heard me talk
08:47 earlier, mine was you know, solid American
08:50 middle class and I don't have any issues,
08:52 you're the one who needs it, you got the messed
08:54 up family you know and all that stuff, yeah.
08:56 And so, as we start to getting the counseling
08:57 soon its like oh! Okay, so I'm critical, I have
09:02 judgmental I, I'm she likes the word arrogant,
09:04 arrogant she says a lot. High expectations,
09:06 high expectations and all that stuff,
09:08 and you know, what we kind of bowl it up
09:09 and say, well this is good, just try for
09:11 excellence and do all that stuff, the reality is
09:13 this those can be just as damaging, yes,
09:15 to someone and sometimes more so because
09:18 they are socially acceptable. And so, here
09:20 we are walking along thing and I'm be in the,
09:22 the right doing and all the right thing and you
09:24 are just trashing your family emotionally,
09:26 and you don't even know it. And so, it was
09:29 interesting to starts, I went to this ministry
09:30 treat it was like okay, God I wanna message,
09:33 I'm ready, I'm ready and I keep saying,
09:34 I'm ready for the burning bush,
09:36 I want to come home someday and my hair will
09:37 be white and all the way back like this you know.
09:40 That will happen but it may take time that will happen.
09:44 And so you know, I went to the retreat
09:47 and the speakers were good,
09:48 but I'm getting nothing, I go out and meditate
09:49 for little while and I got meditate,
09:51 oh! God what do you want to tell me about Cheri
09:53 and my marriage and nothing, nothing.
09:54 So, I go back in and I'm talking with my friend Jack
09:57 and we're just talking about life and stuff
09:59 and he says this one thing.
10:00 And it was, if God had hit me with the lightening bolt
10:03 it was like, that's the message I mean it was
10:06 I felt electric, it was like that's the message.
10:08 And, and that led me to decide to change
10:12 the person we were doing our counseling with them,
10:14 and everyone was like you got to counsel this guy Joe,
10:17 Joe is amazing. And he is straight from the Bible.
10:19 This guy that's all he used.
10:21 Let me ask you Brad, now where you guys going
10:23 through some stuff, I mean because obviously
10:25 you're going home and he is kind of chilling
10:27 and you know, will you go, go onto some,
10:29 some social stuff together. Not, not let me,
10:32 let me say it from my side first;
10:33 since you get precisely, okay.
10:35 You know, to me it was like, it wasn't like
10:38 I didn't think the marriage was in trouble
10:40 although she on an emotional basis probably felt
10:43 that it was, but it was like it's not that we're in
10:46 big trouble and someone's beating each other up,
10:48 or someone is walking out the door, I actually want
10:50 to learn I want to learn to love for better,
10:52 that where we stepped in saying I think it's okay
10:54 and probably doing pretty good was my thing,
10:57 but I wanted to be better, okay.
10:59 So, it was really from that place and that if
11:01 we're gonna work together and once we started
11:02 doing the stuff, it was good
11:04 because as one person said, we're chalk and cheese.
11:06 We may look the same.
11:08 But don't exactly go together.
11:10 But they are not the same function,
11:13 but you know what, what I loved about it that,
11:15 that his spiritual growth is as he realize you know,
11:19 because I've never had a man in my life
11:22 that took spiritual leadership, I've never had someone
11:25 in my life that I could look at and know that that,
11:28 if a decision has to be made and that we're
11:31 back and forth on it, that I can trust you with my
11:33 heart to make that decision that, that final decision.
11:37 And when he started to do do that and I could
11:40 take a breath and realized that I,
11:41 I think I've wanted that my whole life.
11:43 You know, I think of, you know,
11:44 when I think most women don't have it,
11:46 and I shouldn't say most women, a lot of women
11:48 don't have it and don't realize that we wanted,
11:50 I mean I, I don't want to take leadership.
11:54 I don't want to be the one that makes the decision,
11:56 it's not my role, my role is to nurture and love
11:59 and to do, I mean all that kind of stuff
12:01 that is so cool that I'm actually good at,
12:03 and so as he took leadership,
12:05 as he fell in love with God, and then fell in love
12:07 with taking care of us as a family.
12:11 It was amazing, it was amazing,
12:14 that was everything that I had ever dreamed off
12:16 in my whole life, not even knowing,
12:18 that was a desire of my heart,
12:19 is to have that in my home.
12:21 So, for me it was very interesting that,
12:24 that experience of the Ministry Treat
12:25 led us to work with this guy name Joe,
12:27 and Joe I mean just climbed inside your heart
12:29 God did because it's, it's, it's really a prayer
12:32 based ministry and a spirit led ministry as far as the,
12:35 the counseling and working on your issues,
12:37 and I mean just under covered a married stuff.
12:40 And then what was real interesting to was my dad
12:43 passed away kind of during this period
12:45 and a number of things in, in the process of
12:47 cleaning out the basement of my house,
12:49 I discovered a bunch of stuff that led to me
12:54 inheriting things on a generational bases
12:56 that I didn't even know about.
12:58 And I started learning about my family
13:00 and characteristics about my family,
13:02 and I love my family and I say this
13:04 with all the compassion in the world,
13:05 but discovered that I inherit the critical judgment
13:08 and, and all that litigious stuff from my mom,
13:10 born at a little tiny town in Northern Wisconsin,
13:12 250 people German immigrants for parents you know,
13:17 and all the girls there by the time
13:18 they are at high school were pregnant
13:20 married to a guy working in the saw mill
13:21 where they wanted something better for,
13:23 for their daughter. So, she wasn't allow to play
13:25 with the kids in that town, was sent
13:26 to boarding school and you are better.
13:28 Better, you're better than that.
13:29 So, I inherited that.
13:30 So, kind of litigious mindset from,
13:31 from your ghetto yeah. And I didn't even know
13:33 it discovered and, and, and that my dad
13:37 had a pornography addiction and a sexual
13:39 some kind of stuff that way, find out that his dad did
13:42 because I was cleaning out the basement
13:43 I found my dad stuff and my grandpa stuff.
13:46 You know, and by today standard they were nothing,
13:48 but still I knew exactly what it was.
13:50 So, I have been, I have been subjected to that
13:53 and because there is no spiritual leadership
13:54 in the household, we're left vulnerable,
13:57 we're unprotected, do we got nothing
13:59 going on you know, and so as all that,
14:01 if God starts pealing back the layers so on.
14:04 Let me, let me just say one, one thing about with,
14:06 with Brad when he finds out the stuff
14:08 about his dad's addiction and the pornography
14:11 and all that kind of stuff, we realize this
14:12 throughout the years where he has kind of played
14:15 with that addiction and at one point decides
14:18 to come to me and ask me for forgiveness
14:21 and not that he ever had to mean,
14:22 my background was really wild and,
14:24 and you know, I just felt like
14:25 you don't have t do that, but God said I want you
14:27 to do that for her, I want you to say
14:29 I'm sorry that I, I, I'm sorry
14:31 that I didn't save myself for you,
14:33 I'm sorry that I have all the stuff, I'm sorry and,
14:36 and, and I'm also sorry for the abuse that you had
14:38 in your life and with the tears in his eyes
14:40 he just cleaned up that stuff in his heart.
14:43 And as he was cleaning up that stuff in his heart
14:45 I just was, I just was won, I was won, I was,
14:50 you know and, and I think that for a lot of men
14:52 and women when we work together
14:54 that we don't realize, when God says you know,
14:56 confessed to each other, pray for each other,
14:59 so that you can be healed, get rid of that stuff,
15:01 so that I can show you what it feels like
15:03 to be together with the clean heart.
15:05 And I, I think that I didn't realize how powerful
15:08 that was, and how much God that wants that for us?
15:11 And, and the more that he did, the more that he,
15:15 I won, I was won over is more than he wanted to do
15:18 and then the more I was won over,
15:20 and it was just absolutely awesome.
15:24 And I've got to just say that that you know, the,
15:27 the free offer that we're talking about tonight
15:28 is that Brad realizes the power of even men
15:33 in our lives praying for us and covering us
15:36 and my step dad, who is alcoholic and dying of cancer
15:40 and his alcoholism and his drug addiction and,
15:42 and not Christian at one point Brad feels like
15:46 I really like to pray for him because he is sick,
15:48 got sent home from the hospital and hospice care.
15:50 And I talk about that on the DVD, but he goes and,
15:54 and brings my, my step dad brings him
15:57 to Christ before he dies. Wow! And, and who would
16:00 have known that this is guy that wasn't even
16:02 standing up and when he did stand up,
16:04 he changed everything, changed everything, yeah.
16:07 And, he now just being able to say that that,
16:09 that now as he stepping up is, is I heard him talking
16:13 one time and he was talking to somebody you know,
16:16 I think I'm joining Cheri In the ministry and he says,
16:18 you know what do you do then?
16:20 He says, well I'm the President.
16:24 And I am listening to this, I think
16:26 he is a President, wait a minute.
16:27 And but, but soon as I said wait a minute
16:30 God said, he is the President, you know,
16:32 it is the, the leadership has to be the way
16:35 has to be, okay. And I, I thought, I thought
16:38 how funny that God, God says I know where people
16:40 are gonna stand I just needed to clean up
16:43 and surrender and then I can stand to them.
16:45 Yeah, wow! We, we want to for those of you at home,
16:48 if you have questions or comments,
16:49 we have some already coming in,
16:51 but hopefully the last maybe 15-20 minutes
16:54 we'll take some of these and go through,
16:56 so we've ask you, if you want to just again
16:58 you can call us at (618) 627-4651,
17:02 or the freeoffer@3abn, right?
17:05 Yeah, freeoffer@3abn and then if you want
17:07 to send in questions, L.I.V.E. okay,
17:10 live@3abn.org for, for your questions.
17:12 You know, if, if you guys ever write a second sequel
17:15 to your first book or you may you call it Oh! Baby.
17:20 Hey that's a good name Oh! Baby,
17:21 because you started with Oh! Baby, Oh! Baby.
17:23 Of course God shows you now that he has given you
17:25 a man of God, so now you'll say it Oh! Baby.
17:27 You know, exactly, exactly, okay.
17:30 It is amazing. It is very powerful.
17:31 And you know and, and what's really incredible now
17:34 is that then at the entire time that God has laid
17:38 this on my heart to work with someone is
17:41 when I came into my recovery
17:42 there was really no place to go.
17:44 You know, it was like I came from the streets
17:46 and I really didn't have any place I could actually
17:49 just go and, and spend sometime getting
17:51 in my life to get and whatever.
17:52 And I've always wanted to do that and so, as a
17:55 Brad is standing now, we, years ago I wrote,
18:00 if I had a dream in place what would it look like?
18:04 And, and I thought you know, wouldn't it be fun
18:07 to have a place a recovery house for you could come
18:10 and do your 3 months or 15 months
18:12 whatever it took you to do your recovery,
18:14 but I've some really cool things
18:15 that you can do in the mean time.
18:17 And so you know, I'm always going to juvenile halls
18:19 and jails and, and prisons and rehab centers
18:22 and all that kind of stuff, so I thought you know,
18:24 as you come in, we'll teach you to stand up like
18:28 David Asscherick has that Evangelistic Center,
18:30 where you learned to be in evangelism, right.
18:32 But you know, how about somebody learning
18:34 to stand up and give their testimony
18:36 and going out and talking about that,
18:37 so I thought it be kind of like that.
18:39 And so, I thought you know, what we need
18:41 a little kind of studio, television studio,
18:44 so we can put the testimony on DVD in case
18:47 we want to show that and, and wait in them,
18:49 so if people are in recovery let's get them certified
18:51 in different things in sound, in editing
18:53 and writing and, and been able to do that and so,
18:56 when they leave the program
18:57 they have some certification, sure.
18:59 Let's do a music studio in case we want to do DVDs
19:01 and Brad done the music and so wrote all this up.
19:04 And at this point and I brought some drawings
19:08 of the place that we're actually looking at.
19:10 We, we had, we have a picture
19:11 I believe of the residence, okay,
19:13 or we could take a look of that, okay.
19:15 And understand that this is a really the dream
19:19 has been Cheri's for a long time by God's grace, yeah,
19:24 we got some people to put some drawings
19:26 together for us that I mean really,
19:29 it's, it's really fun we've, we've been in touch
19:30 with the, a contracting company, a Christian based
19:33 contracting company, and so is, is the Star Center
19:37 is what it will be called, and so.
19:38 And star saving those, saving at those at risk.
19:41 Wow! So, so somebody said you know,
19:43 what if they don't want to do media and, and so,
19:46 so we said, well let's do a vegan vegetarian
19:49 little cafe and teach culinary arts you know,
19:52 and let's having an organic garden
19:54 and grow some organic garden stuff.
19:56 And, and so what ever do we in the community
19:58 with that, oh! We'll let's feed take meals
20:01 to people in hospice cares.
20:02 Let's take meals to people that are shut ins.
20:05 And so, as you're going through this program
20:07 let's teach you this, let's grow some garden stuff,
20:10 let's learn about health and healthy living
20:13 and eating and then that's
20:14 how we reach out to the community.
20:15 And so, as its developing what's really fun
20:18 about that is Brad standing up in a time where the,
20:22 the dream was kind of, is coming to a point
20:26 where everything is starting to happen.
20:27 And I don't think it could have happened
20:30 had he not been standing up, right.
20:33 And so, it's to me it's just an amazing God's timing.
20:36 And, and so what's really kind of fun in,
20:38 we have another little picture that I think
20:40 is of the, the site itself, so there is three
20:42 buildings one will be a residence that would house
20:44 about 12 people, then one is the, the media center
20:47 classrooms with the TV studio and, and, and classrooms
20:51 where they will get you know work on healing
20:54 their hearts and learning about God really,
20:56 and then the other would be the cafe
20:58 with the kitchen and what not.
20:59 And so, looking back is very interesting
21:01 that I sold real estate for eight years,
21:03 so here is an actual construction project
21:05 that I at least have some background in putting
21:08 stuff up from scratch what the concepts are?
21:10 Yeah. With the events all the stuff with Jean Harrison,
21:13 the event production that you know, organizing
21:16 something on that capacity, and having some
21:18 understanding about hanging lights and you know and,
21:21 and all that I mean God has so prepared for this time.
21:24 And, and I'm gonna say real quick and I had
21:27 this thing happened to me the other day
21:28 I'm involved with team in training,
21:31 which is a leukemia society thing that deals
21:34 with fighting cancer and they do it by doing
21:36 marathons, triathlons and hundred mile bike rides,
21:39 so I've done 5000 miles on my bike
21:42 in the last two years. Wow! Praise God.
21:44 And I'm the official coach, so we endorse because
21:46 this winter and training and Cheri is off ministering
21:48 in New Hampshire somewhere, and you know,
21:50 and, and it's one of those things during
21:52 on my healing and stuff there is 1.2 as you know,
21:54 like ECGs yeah, he is right there,
21:56 but I can't feel them, my arms are too short
21:58 to reach him, I mean this is literally in my mind,
22:00 these are the visions, its there but you know,
22:02 I can't get there yet. And so, I'm paddling away
22:05 on the spin bike and I know she is in New Hampshire
22:07 doing a presentation and all of the sudden
22:09 I literally felt it was like yellow fire
22:13 right in front of me, I mean almost visual
22:16 and I felt the warmth of Christ hands
22:19 on my shoulders like for about 5 seconds
22:21 and during that same time, all I think was about her,
22:24 is I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you,
22:26 and it was like the love of Christ was flowing
22:29 through to me to meet her, I'm sitting
22:30 on the spin bike, oh there are other people,
22:33 and she like, okay I probably can't talk
22:35 about this right now, what your speed,
22:39 I can do a bit in appropriate, but you know to me
22:41 it was like God is so unbelievably in present
22:44 and what's really fun is I've, I've, I've caught
22:47 the vision and, and, and inspiration and you know,
22:50 when it's, it's we're just, we're really
22:52 excited about what's taking place.
22:54 Go, go ahead. Can I say something that that
22:57 I think that, and this may sound crazy,
23:00 but I figured out that with the cost of all this
23:04 and staff, if we had 500 people give a $1000,
23:07 I just had to say that out loud,
23:09 and that's not you know, and so every time
23:12 I go out now I just say, okay, you know,
23:14 that it everybody just give something
23:16 we could actually. We could make this.
23:17 That's that I wanna talk to the viewers
23:19 about right now. Yeah. And we, we're gonna
23:21 have a prayer in just a moment,
23:23 I'm gonna ask Pastor C.A. Murray to pray
23:26 and we're gonna ask the Holy Spirit
23:28 as the Holy Spirit impresses you.
23:30 The Lord maybe saying to you,
23:32 what is this you have in your hand?
23:33 Maybe you have something that you can send
23:35 a junk and you are willing to sale it,
23:37 you are willing to get rid of it maybe you are in,
23:40 in a business and you say, Lord if you give me an
23:42 extra percentage as investment I'll, I'll give
23:45 it to the ministry of True Step, I, I'll give it,
23:48 I'll do, whatever you just be open Lord
23:50 what would you have me to do?
23:52 And we know there is all kinds of projects going on,
23:54 but really what, all that matters James says
23:57 that that what true Christianity is,
24:00 and I know you know this well, is helping those
24:02 basically who can't help themselves, amen.
24:04 Motherless, the children, those that are like you
24:08 so vulnerable and take an advantage of him,
24:10 what you guys are doing is, is, is it's like,
24:13 I see this complex is bringing a lot of youth,
24:16 lot of Cheri's and, and now equipping them
24:20 and doing it in a way that that's an organized way
24:24 that can help people and from your experience,
24:25 where you had to take each step by yourself.
24:28 We don't want somebody come in and then
24:29 going back out for a while because they didn't know
24:32 how to deal with all of this? Exactly.
24:34 And with the experience that you have and so,
24:36 this is something that coming souls for eternity,
24:39 so there is really nothing more important
24:41 and it's not the buildings that are important,
24:42 but buildings are necessary. And so, as we see this
24:46 we want to get together with you in prayer
24:47 and we're gonna ask you and we want to put up
24:49 an address after the prayer.
24:51 And how you can contact them
24:53 and some of you can do more than that,
24:55 some of, there is people that honestly
24:57 can send a $100,000, there is somebody send 50,
25:00 there is somebody that only sends $5, amen, amen.
25:03 But 3ABN has kept going by thousands of people
25:05 every month, yeah, that are giving $10, $50, or $100
25:09 and there are those who send a 1000 from time-to-time.
25:12 So, believe that we're on the same team.
25:15 People used to say, well how do you going
25:17 your program everyday and all your guest
25:18 you raise money for them?
25:20 I say, well we're all on the same team, amen.
25:23 And the Lord blesses all of us, so when our,
25:25 as we're willing to reach out and so,
25:26 we want you to really think about and pray
25:28 about you've heard the testimonies,
25:30 you see what they're doing, hopefully you've caught
25:33 the vision and we want to support that,
25:35 so I'm gonna ask Pastor C.A. Murray,
25:37 if you will just pray for us.
25:38 Let's join hands here, let's do, alright.
25:42 Gracious Father, we come to you now,
25:44 and our hearts are glad, we're happy, we're excited.
25:47 We're happy for the moving of God
25:50 not only in Brad and Cheri's life,
25:53 but in this room and in these ministries,
25:55 we have seen tonight the unfolding of a brand
25:59 new vision. And we pray God that the same excitement,
26:04 which aminates our souls will fill the hearts
26:07 and minds of those who have the funds that can be used
26:11 to lift up the name of Jesus and further the gospel
26:15 in this, this new venture, this new ministry
26:17 for Christ. Father God, first of all we pray
26:20 your blessing on Cheri and Brad.
26:23 We know that whenever we stand up for you,
26:26 Satan stands up to appose, but we also know
26:30 that greater is he that is in us, amen,
26:32 than he that is in the world.
26:34 And so, we commend them to you to move them from
26:38 strength-to-strength and victory-to-victory, amen,
26:42 until this ministry is made a full reality
26:45 and hundreds, thousands of lost souls, yes,
26:49 can come and find their way to the very throne
26:54 will move God, amen, to the foot of the cross, yes,
26:57 to the heart of Jesus. Father even now touch those
27:00 who are thinking about what to do with their money,
27:04 who may be even ask me Lord,
27:06 where should I place my money?
27:07 What can I do to help the cause of Christ?
27:10 Yes. Lord, convict them, convince them
27:13 that this is a worthy project,
27:15 but more than that it's God's project. Yeah, amen.
27:19 It's Christ project, amen. It's something that you
27:22 prepared these two wonderful Christians for,
27:25 for a long time Lord you've, you've given
27:28 Brad skills and, yes, and, and, and abilities,
27:31 you've prepared him for this time and certainly
27:35 you have called Cheri, yeah, to the field
27:38 for such a time as this. And we're happy at 3ABN
27:41 to just have the opportunity, yes,
27:43 to share their vision with the world.
27:46 And so, Father I commend them to you
27:48 and ask you in the name of Jesus, yes,
27:51 to give them Heaven's very best, amen,
27:54 and move this ministry along, let it become
27:57 a reality, so that thousands can find the way
28:00 to Christ Lord, alright, we love you, we praise you
28:02 and we thank you for your promise to answer
28:05 the prayer faith in Jesus name, amen, amen, amen.
28:10 I have reason to believe in miracles
28:12 like the dawn expects the sun,
28:13 I will not accept defeat from my trust in him
28:16 is complete, again my victory,
28:18 is already been won. I love that.
28:20 So, I praise, I praise the Lord for that
28:23 to take the chorus. Good deal.
28:24 It's a chorus of the song, but it's, it's a wonderful
28:27 song I've reason to believe in miracles
28:29 like the dawn expects the sun,
28:31 so right now you all are looking for a miracle,
28:33 we are, God has done many, many miracles, amen.
28:36 So, it doesn't make any difference, if you needs
28:38 are thousand dollars or million dollars
28:41 because God is, has all the resources,
28:44 all the resources. You know what I,
28:45 what I love Danny too about you know?
28:46 I would like every church to know that if you have
28:49 somebody that you don't know what to do with them,
28:51 call us up, send them to us.
28:53 If you have a pastor that wants to work
28:55 with all those people, send them to us,
28:57 let us go and have programs that teach not only
28:59 the idea how to do that, but the person
29:02 that's interesting in that ministry because I know
29:05 that God has a need and a plan for all of us.
29:09 You know what I mean? That anybody standing up
29:11 is you can stand them up and send them out,
29:13 it's just huge. I ask you a question.
29:15 Let's put up, let's put up the address,
29:16 it's good time to do, well we're thinking about it,
29:18 we'd like to put up the address,
29:19 if the Holy Spirit is impressing, yeah,
29:21 you want to contact and you have questions,
29:23 you want to donate to them, you want to find out
29:25 about the materials, they have available for you,
29:27 you may do so at the following address.
29:33 If you would like to contact Cheri Peters
29:35 or if you would like to support her ministry,
29:36 then you can write to True Step Ministries,
29:39 PO Box 163, Kuna, Idaho, 83634.
29:44 That's True Step Ministries, PO Box 163,
29:49 Kuna, Idaho, 83634. You can call her at
29:53 (208) 562-8477, that's (208) 562-8477,
30:00 or you can visit her website for testimonies,
30:03 live event information and more at truestep.org,
30:07 it's all one word truestep.org.
30:11 Contact her today, she will love to hear from you.
30:17 Okay, we've got about 27 some minutes left,
30:19 we want to finish up and I know you got a little more
30:22 to talk about, then we'll ask you few questions
30:23 from the audience. So, we have a couple
30:25 of other things that we're really excited about is
30:27 through this process of the healing,
30:29 Cheri and I have done we've realized that getting
30:32 couples to stand up together is really something
30:35 that God delights in, we call to be the light
30:39 of the world and walking what is that mean?
30:40 You know, I want, when she and I walking to the room
30:43 together people look at how much we love and they go,
30:45 man I want a piece of that. How they can do that?
30:47 What's going on with that?
30:48 You know, yeah, and so, we're starting to do
30:50 counseling that way, in fact we did, couples retreat,
30:53 couples and we're, we're planning our first ever
30:55 couples retreat in November this year.
30:56 Again you can find out about it at the website,
30:58 it's in this wonderful place up in Mccall, Idaho,
31:00 its beautiful camp right to heaven.
31:02 I don't know if you're familiar with that,
31:04 but it's, its part of our Adventist network
31:07 of places to go and it's beautiful in Payette lake.
31:09 And so, we're offering that and another thing
31:12 we're excited about again through the,
31:14 the team in training stuff is we have receive
31:17 donations of one of the people works at the shoe,
31:22 a shoe store, running shoe, and people go
31:24 and buy these $100, $150, $200 running shoes
31:26 and they wear them for a week and then,
31:28 and it's like, well they don't fit me
31:29 and then bring them back, for a day,
31:30 sometimes for a day. We have been donated to us
31:34 some boxes of these, I mean, so probably it has
31:37 4, 500 pairs of shoes. Wow! And so, so then somebody
31:41 from Australia that little girl said, she watched her
31:44 during the flood, she watched her shoe float
31:46 down the thing and she lost her shoes
31:48 and so we're taking for, because I'm speaking
31:50 at AYC with you C.A, yeah, in June.
31:53 And so, we're taking 700 pairs of shoes for people
31:56 that lost their shoes during the flood.
31:58 That's great. And the guys are gonna continue,
32:00 so the people in Haiti because you have
32:01 that clinic in Haiti, yes good,
32:03 it's been bringing some shoes over. Oh! Yeah.
32:05 So, it's really fun to just say, God whatever we can
32:08 put in our hands, let to put in our hands,
32:09 so that we can send out.
32:10 Cheri we got to ask you a question, yes.
32:13 How did it feel to you, what went on your mind
32:17 when after so many years of sort of chariness
32:20 brought by yourself and praying for the mate
32:23 that would help you with this?
32:24 When, when God reveal to you, here is your guy,
32:27 he is onboard with you?
32:29 How did you, you want to do this by our self anymore?
32:31 How did it, how did it feel to you?
32:33 I can even tell you it's felt like, I always thought
32:36 that you know what I'm going to have somebody
32:38 finally love me on the second coming,
32:39 when Jesus comes back and it will all make sense
32:42 and this pain will lift. But when Brad came in
32:45 and took that position and pain started to leave then
32:48 and Jesus said, I plan victory for you now
32:51 not only at the second coming,
32:53 but I want you to have life abundantly now.
32:56 I wanted to weep like a baby because I never felt
32:59 that God really does want us to experience,
33:04 what it feels like to be truly love,
33:07 and to love the people around you.
33:08 And all of the sudden I realized that the gospel
33:10 is bigger than I imagined, that's it.
33:14 You know, yeah, yesterday and you are witness
33:16 to this yesterday Brad is playing in the studio for,
33:20 he is playing beautiful, how great that work kind
33:22 of medley something else, yeah, with that beautiful.
33:25 And so, you and me and I think Dr. Louis was here
33:29 and John Lomacang, Tim, Tim Partner,
33:32 there was a number of us who sat here in the studio
33:34 and Brad is playing and he is doing this
33:36 real great job and he is playing and we're all
33:39 listening you know with, with you know,
33:41 just kind of and all of a sudden this,
33:43 this I don't know what it was the street fly passed us
33:46 and it, and it's up like haa, and its her,
33:50 and it's like. I love it.
33:52 It was like now wait a minute.
33:53 It was like what was that.
33:54 Haven't you ever seen him play before? I have.
33:57 And she was just and the person beside me said
33:59 look at her she is madly in love with him. Yeah.
34:01 And I said, well she really is.
34:03 She really throws her arms around,
34:04 yeah, yeah, she really is the groom.
34:06 Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm not even sure
34:07 he has through playing the, the song
34:09 and she was like oh! But that was cute,
34:11 I mean it was wonderful. It really was.
34:13 I watch that you support him so much.
34:15 I watch this incredible musician,
34:17 a classical musician, he is, he has played the molar
34:21 with the San Francisco symphony,
34:22 he has done great stuff, yeah, in his career
34:25 and now he is dedicating, he is playing to God
34:27 and to me, yeah. God you know, the change is just
34:31 so amazing to me. He hit this one high end note
34:34 and he bit that and she went flying by.
34:36 Yeah, didn't she? Yeah, she was like,
34:38 oh! Baby all over the day. Oh! Baby.
34:40 I'm back, yeah, that maybe the next book.
34:42 That's your next book, the next book, oh! Baby,
34:44 alright, oh! Baby alright.
34:46 Let's do a couple of questions right now
34:48 and then if you got other thoughts,
34:50 on finishing things we're gonna do,
34:52 we'll do it, well we told the folks we would.
34:53 This caller says, I've had addictions
34:56 in my whole life, I manage to get over alcohol,
34:58 tobacco, food, I manage to handle those addictions,
35:02 but I have a pornography addiction
35:03 that I cannot get control.
35:05 Can you give me some advice how do I
35:07 overcome this addiction that I have?
35:11 What's really hard about porn addictions
35:13 or sexual addictions is, because they are
35:15 so shame based, we do them in silence.
35:17 You know what I mean? And, and so the other ones
35:20 I can tell you that you know what it's hard for me
35:21 to quit smoking and you can sympathize with me,
35:23 but I'm not gonna tell you I'm online
35:25 porn on most nights, you know what I mean?
35:27 So, it's a very silent thing. And so, most addiction
35:30 you have to start bring an accountability and,
35:33 and you guys know Bernie Anderson has a ministry
35:36 online with Triple X Church and that kind of thing,
35:38 but, but you know, so you really need to say out loud
35:42 to somebody that this is what I'm struggling with,
35:45 getting the accountability partner,
35:47 get someone that you can say you know,
35:50 this has got me every single time I turn around then
35:54 and we used porn addictions, or sexual addictions we,
35:58 we, we used them when we feel stress,
36:00 when we feel disrespected,
36:02 when we feel out of control, when I'm angry?
36:04 There are so many things that that our sexual
36:06 addictions cover that it's almost like somebody
36:09 that's really got an anxiety disorder
36:12 and they take Valium, but for sex addict
36:14 we do sexual things we get online.
36:17 And so, you really have to get in accountability
36:20 to your partner and then learn to deal
36:21 with your stress in the different way.
36:22 And it all takes time, and you?
36:24 One other things that I think is, is interesting
36:26 and again I am gonna speak to men
36:28 and there are women who have this addiction as well,
36:30 but the men in particular is, is the studies
36:33 have shown that with men when they are involved
36:37 with this, they actually wined up creating
36:40 a chemical bonding with the image on the screen
36:44 that neurochemically this is what happened you know,
36:47 rewind and rebind to it with your brain to where you,
36:50 you can't have a relationship with the real person
36:52 because you've created it with this image
36:54 on the screen, yeah, yeah. And so the, the depth
36:57 and the insidiousness of Satan's plot
37:00 with this is so great. So, what you've got,
37:02 you really do have to start to reprogram your brain
37:05 and the other thing Cheri talked about,
37:07 but kind of having that understanding something
37:09 is like you've actually bonded with the image of.
37:11 It's very true, I was talking to a Ph.D. in psychology
37:13 just today several hours ago, he said the exact
37:16 same thing, you develop this bond
37:18 with this virtual image and so that reality
37:22 you don't even want flesh and blood, right,
37:24 you're, you're in love with by you see on the screen,
37:26 you're really made yourself to this,
37:28 this satisfied with reality, you rather have virtual
37:31 and you'll love the screen more than you love,
37:33 even the person lying in bed with you at night.
37:35 But unfortunately nobody is deceived
37:39 enough to think that that's real to the bottom
37:42 of their heart, precisely.
37:43 And so you have that grief reaction
37:44 on top of everything, so you, you really get fed
37:48 with the porn stuff, but then you've to wake up
37:50 next to yourself, yeah. And, and you are ashamed
37:52 and grieved and all that kind of stuff.
37:54 And so, being able to that is the saddest addiction
37:57 because it's an addiction against our own bodies,
37:59 yes, yes, it's against oneself.
38:00 And so, being able to says that that we wiring
38:02 and that we connecting with the people around you
38:05 to your own body it takes time,
38:08 but when you got it oh! I just, when you get it,
38:11 you get it, and you get your life back.
38:12 Praise the Lord. And they say, that the percentage of,
38:15 of what, how you can love other people
38:16 we knew how porn addictions or sexual addictions
38:19 is you can love someone else maybe 3 to 5%,
38:22 so 95% you really are disconnected
38:26 from the people around you, and I'm talking about
38:28 spouses, children's, friends because with the porn
38:32 addiction you start to disconnect with what's real,
38:34 and you connect with this event to this object.
38:36 And, and so to me when somebody says out loud
38:39 like this guy I just want to say, I love you and I do,
38:43 and, and I, and, and, and fight for this one, yeah,
38:46 is this one is a sin against your own body
38:48 and will take everything from you eventually,
38:51 rob you from everything, yes, yes,
38:53 you maybe able to play it off socially,
38:54 but you are not connecting.
38:56 But what classifies that though as an addiction
38:59 versus Brad just a, a man's natural attraction
39:03 to woman, or woman's natural attraction to a man.
39:05 And, and so you look at somebody
39:08 and they are attractive or they whatever, yeah,
39:10 what, what really separate, is there is a line
39:13 like is there something that you cross
39:14 that all of a sudden you say, look I'm, I'm, I'm.
39:17 I better pay attention. Yeah, yeah.
39:19 Where it is, they really? There it is actually,
39:21 and, and you can kind of go down a checklist
39:23 some other things include you know,
39:25 is it starting to interfere with your ability
39:27 to perform your job, is it starting to interfere
39:30 with your ability to go have fun and you stop
39:33 playing basketball on Tuesday nights.
39:35 Because I know Tuesday night I can get
39:36 to the computer when nobody is around.
39:38 yeah you know its going to bug me
39:39 You know, is it costing me money,
39:40 is it causing me to stop spending time
39:42 with my family or my children.
39:44 And I looked at my wife differently
39:45 and my husband differently, am I saying you know,
39:47 I wish, I wish she looked more like this image
39:51 or I wish she would dress sexier you know,
39:53 and so all of the sudden, yeah all of the sudden
39:55 this comes to your mind more than before
39:58 or when somebody disrespects me
40:01 within how much time am I online, do you know?
40:05 All of the sudden I'm, I'm being disrespect
40:07 or I'm getting angrier or whatever
40:09 and at what point do I online and almost
40:12 like what point am I using it like a drug.
40:14 Okay, so there are signs that spouses can maybe
40:17 they see certain changes, yes, in their husband
40:20 and their wife and they say.
40:21 Yes, it's a, it's a, it's a red flag
40:24 and again speaking to the man,
40:25 we desire intimacy just as a woman does.
40:30 Sometimes we don't know that's something
40:32 that we want and quite often for men
40:34 they're trying to get that intimacy and again until
40:37 you're kind of unshackle your heart sometimes
40:39 you don't know how do get it,
40:40 you don't know how to express it,
40:41 and you may not be able to feel and,
40:43 and again the instant gratification that comes
40:45 with the pornography and the ease of it
40:47 and all that stuff can just pull you
40:49 so far away from that, but what you really looking
40:51 for is that interconnect where you're caring
40:54 for someone's heart next to you.
40:55 Evidently there is a little bit of more this,
40:57 a lot more this in the church and we, okay,
41:00 you think here and here is another question,
41:01 this person didn't sign but it's that same question.
41:03 What do you do with the sex, with sex addiction?
41:05 So, it's there. You know, it's there whether we talk
41:07 about or not it is there. And let me just say
41:09 you what's really interesting about even
41:11 Bernie Anderson's Ministry or you can call Lawson
41:13 and start working on these kind of issues is that,
41:17 is that you have to do stops like I,
41:20 you know I wanted to tell somebody I want to get
41:21 a filter on my computer, I wanted there is a,
41:24 there is a filter that you can get on your computer
41:26 that soon as you go online anything
41:27 unquestionable side, it goes out emails
41:31 go out to five different people
41:32 and you chose the five people,
41:34 but those five will then email you and say,
41:36 hey what's up buddy? You know, and so it's like
41:39 you know, it's like that if you really want
41:41 to get well there are so many ways to do it
41:44 and it's tough, yeah, and you can't be ashamed by it.
41:46 It is like you know, when Jesus said,
41:48 I came and died for you, I came and died for you
41:51 because these issues are huge, the devil has us,
41:53 has us in bondage and so you know,
41:58 God says you know, I'm not coming down
41:59 because you kind of need me, you are so loss,
42:02 so you are not connecting with anybody anymore,
42:04 you're so loss that that you're, you're,
42:06 you're even saying that you know what
42:08 I, I, I need help and with these other things I can,
42:12 I can kind of deal with that, but this one has me.
42:15 And so and, and I, and the only reason I can say
42:18 that is I can sympathize with people
42:20 that have those kind of deeper addictions
42:23 because you know from where I came from
42:25 those were all on the table for me
42:26 and when God sets us free, we're free indeed,
42:29 Sia Louis said, here was sort of afraid,
42:32 Sia Louis is Christian writer and well known
42:34 and he said, he just, it kills him to think
42:38 I have to give this addiction up.
42:39 You know because you know, you get your need
42:41 some at this way, you think it works
42:42 and all that kind of stuff and he realizes,
42:44 okay I'm gonna give it up and I know that means
42:47 I never gonna have fun anymore,
42:48 I'm never gonna be satisfied anymore,
42:50 I'm never gonna have any kind of sexual stuff anymore,
42:53 but I love God so here and He finally gives it to God,
42:56 God untwisted, He cleans it up
42:58 and gives them a sexuality back.
43:00 And he actually has this intimacy
43:02 which he had been searching for the whole time
43:04 and he said, I was I don't know.
43:06 The God didn't want to steal anything from me,
43:08 yeah He wanted to give me something that was real.
43:11 Wow! And not so the devil lies to us
43:13 is that the devil tangled this in front of us
43:15 and says it's real, it's never been real. Yeah.
43:17 You have an online addiction with an image,
43:20 may not even be the same girl you maybe talking
43:22 to a 300 pound woman behind that screen and,
43:25 and you don't even know that this image
43:27 is not even her. Yeah, yeah. And the devil,
43:28 and God says I'm gonna give you what's real
43:31 and you will be satisfied, Brad
43:33 and I love each other and as a man and wife
43:36 we're totally satisfied with each other.
43:38 And that's only because we've surrendered
43:40 all the addictive stuff. So if you're out there
43:43 and you're listening to my voices the lies
43:45 will keep you in bondage, God says I actually
43:48 want to give you your life back. Amen, okay.
43:49 What about somebody says that they have given up
43:52 alcohol, drugs, but they cannot give up smoking?
43:57 It's, why smoking, and I've heard that before
44:01 from other people, oh yeah, smoking seems
44:03 to be tougher to give up
44:04 than some of these other thing.
44:06 It was tough from even heroine.
44:08 Really? Heroine was easier and people
44:10 say that all the time, but I want to just say
44:12 personally it was tougher, and the first thing
44:15 I had to do in order to it took me five or six years
44:18 after my Baptism to finally say you know,
44:22 the God you know, finally please take this from me,
44:24 but I had to first realize that that you know,
44:29 Danny see I had to realize that God loved me.
44:32 You know I have a cigarette hanging out of my face
44:34 and he died for me, do you know what I mean?
44:36 Yeah. And he didn't come down to cigarettes,
44:38 he doesn't like the fact that my lungs
44:40 are being thrashed, but he said first of all
44:41 you have to know that my love is bigger than your,
44:44 my blood is bigger than your cigarettes,
44:46 and it's almost like I had to so get that in my head
44:50 that it wasn't that you know, God's gonna love me
44:53 if I stop smoking, God's gonna love me if I quit this.
44:56 God's gonna love me what God says,
44:58 no let's get one thing established, I love you.
45:01 Alright! Everything else will work on,
45:03 and I think that you know get that in your
45:05 mind first, that everybody else may
45:07 judge you by your cigarettes, but God is
45:09 saying you are my son and I love you. Amen.
45:11 And then start doing the things that you need to
45:14 do in order to stop smoking and that is
45:17 looking at the reality of what smoking does,
45:20 educate yourself, take a lung and put it up on
45:23 the table, you know what I mean?
45:25 Do something that this causes lung cancer,
45:27 this is gonna cause you to be on oxygen,
45:30 this stinks. You know do stuff that actually
45:33 shows you the damage and this causes your
45:36 children to have a respiratory diseases,
45:39 these causes you know and so start
45:41 educating yourself. Bring back smoking Sam.
45:44 Oh, you remember that one. Smoking Sam is to
45:46 have this manic that that you can see how
45:49 much damage that it did, yeah the time he
45:51 make it with that. Now, this one says,
45:53 I think this is a great question. It says how
45:55 did Cheri learn to keep her dignity when
45:58 recovering from you know, your addictions
46:01 and all this, the stuff that you had your life?
46:03 How did you? Who says I did? Yeah,
46:06 because I'll be lying, yeah, you know I would
46:10 say you know it's only God that even teaches
46:12 you what that word means. Do you know what I mean?
46:14 As I didn't even know what that word man,
46:16 you know, I manipulated and I get defensive and
46:22 I was hypersensitive and people hurt my
46:24 feeling, and so I don't think I kept anything.
46:27 It was only by the grace of God that I was able
46:30 to not to grab somebody right by the throat.
46:31 Do you know what I mean? And I think that over
46:33 the years what God has done is taken that heart
46:36 of stone and that heart was so damaging,
46:38 give me a heart of flesh. And now I truly can say
46:41 that even when somebody has offended
46:43 me most of the time I love them and I feel bad
46:46 that they can speak to someone like that.
46:48 So I don't even take the offense anymore in the
46:50 same way, but that's what God does for us?
46:52 The Lord showed me years ago that being
46:54 offended is a choice. Exactly! So no one can
46:58 offend you if you don't allow them to,
47:00 if you don't allow them to. So, it's like why do we
47:01 spend so much time to saying, oh well he
47:03 offended or this person offended me,
47:05 but they can't offend you unless you chose to
47:07 be offended. I was talking to somebody
47:09 and he came up to me and he said, do you
47:10 know what, I listen to your speak, and the way
47:14 he was saying that I thought I'm in trouble,
47:15 and I said listen to your speak and I want you to
47:18 know that I felt like walking up to you and
47:20 taking a wash cloth and wiping that makeup
47:22 right off your face. And I said really, and I said
47:25 do you know I want you to know something and
47:27 he said what? And I said for the first 10
47:30 years of my marriage, my husband didn't see
47:32 me without makeup on, I didn't go to the
47:34 mailbox without makeup 'cause I'm so
47:36 insecure about who I am, I don't feel good
47:38 enough about anything and if you would have
47:40 done that, you would have really traumatized me.
47:42 And I'm sorry to offend you, but God is working
47:45 on that with me. And all of a sudden his
47:47 whole mood change, but I just wanted to say,
47:49 were you in church, I was in the church.
47:51 Boy! But you know what I mean?
47:54 Is that I wanted to say you don't, you don't
47:56 even know, oh boy, my husband has not seen
47:58 me because I'm so insecure and I'm so,
48:01 I feel worthless and I have all of that stuff
48:03 and God Himself is trying to tell me baby
48:06 you don't need that I love you, but let him
48:09 do it 'cause you so gentle with us,
48:11 but we want to it for each other and we're not
48:15 as gentle as God. We short story aside, yeah,
48:19 Angie Hoffman who sing here years ago and
48:22 we were in California quite a few of us that
48:23 were singing and a lot of people and this little
48:26 lady came up and grabbed her hair and
48:29 pulled her really hard and she said, ouch!
48:32 What are you doing? She said, oh! I thought
48:33 that was a wig. No! And so she was gonna
48:36 pull it off in the church, but she said my friend
48:39 and I said it's a wig and she said it isn't,
48:42 so instead of asking her, she was gonna now you
48:44 see what in the world is going through
48:46 somebody's mind. We have to behave
48:48 in the building, yeah. Yeah, we do, yeah,
48:50 we do, absolutely. Bit of praise you for you.
48:52 This is from Sherry, Cheri, yeah, and she
48:55 says, I've been a smoker for 40 years and due to
48:58 you and 3ABN I've smoked three for five
49:01 days, you want to be remembered in prayer,
49:03 okay. God bless, because she wants to
49:05 have victory and she said please remember
49:07 her in prayer, Sherry Cheri. We are going to
49:09 pray, yeah, and you know we started the
49:11 program Danny that you believed in us and
49:16 started the program Celebrating Life in
49:18 Recovery, and I can't even tell you how many
49:21 people have gone victory, just because for
49:23 somebody saying out of love that God is bigger
49:26 than this stuff. Alright, and He loves us.
49:28 yeah. Alright! You know just a quick
49:31 comment, if someone who is really a recent
49:33 person to the Adventist Church and I'm gotten
49:35 involved in you know, these endurance things
49:37 right in 100 miles on your bicycle in one shot
49:39 around Lake Tahoe, the Adventists have a
49:43 wonderful health message, give such a
49:45 health message, and as you start dealing,
49:47 as you start dealing with these addictions
49:48 and the different things, regardless of what it is,
49:51 one of the things I've learned in my own walk
49:53 is that you got to kind of clear the channels a
49:55 little bit for God to talk to you better,
49:57 how communion? God talks to her,
49:59 how come He is not talking to me.
50:00 Okay I don't hear him. And this you know,
50:03 with as you're dealing with this, if you can
50:05 think about well what am I eating and maybe
50:06 I just change one thing at a time, drink water,
50:09 he can start, the Holy Spirit can start to speak
50:11 to you more, well you'll hear him better.
50:14 Let me rephrase that because you start
50:16 clogging me in tennis and somebody is like
50:18 oh, I can see that and so as you're dealing with
50:20 all of these different addictions and I think
50:22 includes the porn issue, yes, you know, that you
50:25 it allows the Holy Spirit to speak to you and
50:28 you'll start to understand things
50:30 differently and start to gain your power and
50:32 strength because God starts to working.
50:33 Okay, yeah, why don't we there is several
50:35 people that have prayer request, absolutely,
50:37 because they're suffering through these things
50:39 and we want you to Cheri to say prayer,
50:42 so we can join hands and if you are with
50:43 somebody at home if not you can reach out to
50:45 our Heavenly Father, and reach out to Him
50:48 because we know that God hears and answers
50:50 these prayers so, absolutely.
50:51 Dear Father in Jesus name I know that you
50:53 know every single person that's asking for
50:55 these request, every single person that's
50:58 viewing this program I know that you are
50:59 non-absence with little kids, little boys and
51:03 little girls, and I don't care what age we are,
51:05 you know us. You know our addictions,
51:07 you know what kids gets to stuck, you know
51:09 what it's hurt us, you know what we struggle
51:12 with as far as bitterness and unforgiveness and
51:14 anger and insecurity and how people have
51:17 offended us and how we've taken those
51:19 offences and then the devil takes all of that
51:21 and continues to lie, I pray Father to break
51:25 those lives from us. Let us know that you
51:27 were the God that created the whole world
51:29 and your thoughts towards us are
51:32 incredibly good. Your thoughts towards
51:34 us are of thoughts of love of and of health
51:36 and of yeah, that you delight in the fact that
51:39 we get it even a little, but you delight in us
51:42 and I pray Father delight in the people
51:43 that are asking for prayer right now.
51:46 Let them know through your Holy Spirit that
51:47 nothing that they're walking with is bigger
51:49 than what you are and then you are not
51:51 ashamed of them, but your love for them is
51:53 just, it's just beyond what they can imagine,
51:57 that you will walk with them however they need it.
51:59 You will sit with them, you sing over them as
52:01 they sleep, as it says in Zephaniah.
52:03 And that you are God and I just pray Father
52:06 for healing of whatever physical, mental,
52:09 emotional, spiritual healing and I just ask
52:13 you Father I leave that all in your hands and
52:16 the person that with the porn addictions,
52:19 what I love about you is you're not ashamed of
52:21 them even. You are sad that they're in bondage,
52:24 that it hurts you that they've pulled away
52:27 from what's real, and I just pray Father to even
52:29 free them up. I pray for the perpetuator that's
52:32 watching, the child molester, the people
52:35 that have done things of the world says,
52:37 you know what that you don't even deserve to
52:39 live on the same street as me,
52:41 God is saying come home. Wow! Come home.
52:44 Amen! I miss you! Amen! And I pray
52:46 Father let them know that you miss them and
52:49 I pray Father let us all return and let the devil
52:52 just look like He is, he is a defeated fellow,
52:55 he has no power anymore, the blood of
52:57 Christ has really put him in his place,
53:00 and the only power he has is when we start
53:02 believe in life and let us see the truth give us
53:04 discernment, give us wisdom and give us the
53:07 ability to seek after the heart of God and we ask
53:10 all this in Jesus name, amen. Amen! Amen!
53:13 Well thank you. The power of prayer is just
53:16 amazing, thank you, and I don't know how people
53:18 can live and exist in today's world without knowing
53:22 that we have a Heavenly Father that
53:24 we can go to who hears and answers prayers,
53:27 I mean it's amazing. We only have about
53:29 two or three minutes left, you got anymore or,
53:31 well I think we should put the address one more time.
53:33 Okay. We've got bunch of people who want to
53:34 contact you off air because they have some things
53:36 that wanna, amen, and you have a web page too now,
53:38 yes, the truestep.org, yeah, it's up there, truestep.org,
53:41 it will appear okay, well let's go to the address.
53:47 If you would like to contact Cheri Peters or if you would
53:49 like to support her ministry, then you can write to
53:52 True Step Ministries, PO Box 163, Kuna, Idaho, 83634.
53:58 That's True Step Ministries, PO Box 163,
54:02 Kuna, Idaho, 83634. You can call her at
54:06 (208) 562-8477, that's (208) 562-8477,
54:13 or you can visit her website for testimonies,
54:16 live event information, and more at truestep.org.
54:21 It's all one word, truestep.org.
54:25 Contact her today, she love to hear from you.
54:30 Okay, we have just a couple of minutes left
54:32 and you guys have anything to tell us, what's happening?
54:35 Where you're gonna be in the next few weeks?
54:36 Okay we're finishing up filming the
54:38 Seven Seasons of Celebrating Life in Recovery here.
54:40 So we'll be here for another week,
54:42 then we're on our away to Australia for six weeks
54:45 and we're seeing we're gonna be in, I think in Perth
54:50 and we'll be around that area.
54:51 I love the people down under we've a great time,
54:54 wonderful folks, and then we're coming back
54:56 and on our way then to New Zealand and then Australia
54:59 again and throughout the states,
55:01 we're doing Prison Ministry Sunday.
55:03 And so did you actually when you are there,
55:05 do you go out and try to find kangaroos like?
55:07 I learned to surf. Oh! You learned to surf. Yeah.
55:09 But did you go look out kangaroos? Yes, we, but we,
55:12 we did. Didn't we? He tried to get me beat up by a kangaroo.
55:14 Well, well, you see C.A. goes stands next to the kangaroos,
55:18 I said they don't look that harmful,
55:19 somebody said be careful and I said they don't look
55:21 that tough, you look like you are tough for C.A.,
55:23 don't be afraid, haven't just going up, right?
55:25 Yeah, I will wait right here, you go.
55:27 He is a big pastor and it was you know,
55:29 they were just out while and they said, that's fun,
55:32 look at these, I thought they look friendly, go see C.A.
55:35 Yeah, he is like, I'm not going to do that.
55:38 I said, well I take a picture of you and he is like
55:40 forget it, some of them are big muscular. I didn't
55:42 expect these kangaroos to be so big and strong looking.
55:46 I mean they really were. I said well that's great,
55:48 that's funny, in Australia. Yeah, it's great.
55:50 Wonderful people and great supporters down there
55:52 too so, absolutely, so you head off to a very long trip,
55:55 long trip, I don't envy that I'll tell you
55:57 that's a long trip, but once you get there it's worth it.
56:00 Alright, any closing thoughts;
56:02 Brad anything from you, we've got about 30 seconds.
56:04 I just want to say, just one quick thing, two things
56:06 for the people who help us.
56:07 Our website is brand new as of today,
56:09 oh great! And God's grace it got turned on about
56:11 3 O' clock this afternoon, wonderful, that is good.
56:13 There was lot of people working on that,
56:15 but I just want to say again kind of speaking to them
56:17 and I'm stand up covering and prayer,
56:19 you mentioned prayer, I'm praying for my family
56:21 everyday and God is blessing us, amen, unbelievable, amen.
56:24 And it's just a win situation, you can, okay.
56:27 Thank you so much and God bless and your
56:29 friendship has meant, thank you, world to me personally
56:32 and you've been a great help to me also over the years,
56:34 thank you for what you do and both of you
56:36 for the cause of God and for you Pastor Murray,
56:38 thank you, what a blessing that you're to me and
56:40 3ABN and the people around the world and, amen,
56:43 glad your on God side too.
56:44 And we're glad that you are too, if you're not
56:46 tonight's type to give your life to the Lord, amen,
56:48 Jesus Christ, He is simply waiting there.
56:50 All you have to do is submit; commit your life to Him
56:52 and then go and tell what He's done for you.
56:55 Well our time is all gone for this evening
56:57 until we see you next time, may the Lord richly bless you
57:00 abundantly more than you could ever ask or thank.


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