Hello and welcome
back to 3ABN today live.
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Thank you for
joining us. I hope you got
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to watch this first
hour, if you didn't it's
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not too late,
we're gonna have a great
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second hour, we
already know one of the
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reasons we knows
we prayed and ask the
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Lord to be here, amen,
to rule and reign in this
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session tonight,
and we have felted.
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And I don't know that
I've ever, I have done
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about 10 to 12000
programs, I don't know if
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I've been involved
in one that the first
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hour is quicker.
Lightening quick, that has
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been for me,
definitely the fastest program
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I think we've ever,
I've been involved in,
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I couldn't believe the
clock I kept looking and
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said, what happen this
hour, but that tells us
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that we're where
you had us you know,
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sitting here on the
edge of our seat Cheri.
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We're with Cheri
Peters and Brad her
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husband Brad and I
wanna thank you for
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coming here to
3ABN and also want to
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thank you for your
friendship for not only
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personally, ministry
wise friend to 3ABN and,
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amen, and friend of
God of course, and I'm so
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thankful for
your own God's team.
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And I know a number
of people who tell me
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Cheri Peter's
programs has changed my life.
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Meeting Cheri
Peters has changed my life,
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amen, because it gives me hope.
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When I here
where she's been from?
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I said you know
what? If she can do that I
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can do it, amen. So,
for you to stand up and
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tell your
testimony. Ellen White makes a
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statement our
Greatest Asset is our own
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personal testimony
and for what God has done
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for us, amen. And you
know, not only has God
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given you this
testimony, but now he
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has given you
incredible communication skills
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to, to get this story
out, yeah, and to do it with
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the love and a fervor
that people need to hear,
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yeah, because I for one
Brad said, well why don't
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you join a Pentecostal
church or what have you?
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I'm frankly glad
you, you join this one,
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but that
excitement you know; we can be
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excited about things
in this church too, amen.
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And that's about
Jesus and what He can do
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for us, amen, and if
we are not then maybe
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shame on us, we
should be more excited.
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I go to churches and I
tell the folks I traveled
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around the world, I
spoke into huge audiences
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and you know, from
small to huge audiences,
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I don't get
nervous anymore, it's been
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26 years Brad, I say
doctors and the attorneys,
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and business people
they don't intimidate me
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anymore you know, but
I'll tell you what does
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intimidate me? Two
things when you are too
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quiet in church, the
audience didn't talk bad
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or when I know there
is English teachers, yeah.
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Those two things scare
me and make me nervous,
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so I say if you are
an English teacher don't
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let me know till
after the day is over, yeah,
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you know our services
are over, but don't be
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too quiet. And I tell
folk when we're up upfront.
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We don't wanna look
like we're talking to people
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who's been sucking
on lemons all morning
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before they came to
church, yeah, we like to
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see happy excited
people, yeah, and we should be,
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I mean who else
should be more happy and
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excited than
Christians and Seventh-day
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Adventist Christians
who have present truth
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to give to a lost
and dying world, yeah.
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And when the, the
Bible says the joy alone is
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our strength. Is our
strength, is our strength.
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Yeah, you were
talking about being in,
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in New Zealand just
a couple of weeks ago
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during that
earthquake Danny and I were down
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there couple of years
ago and of course they,
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they, they think its
rude to talk when you're
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singing on
ministering? And we almost had a
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heart attack
trying to get those folks,
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and like I said,
no, no, no we'd never;
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we would never talk
back to you when you're,
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when you're preaching you know.
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You know what
really I hate such thing.
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But he did, they did
loosen up some C.A. on
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you before we
left, yeah, yeah, we were
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preaching each night
and finally some really did
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because I said, well
for us we, we kind of our
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respect is, not to be
loud or not to be too noisy
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and it's a respect
you know to be quieter.
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So, hey we, we
honor that I mean we.
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So, I was there
couple of weeks ago and
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we were doing after
the Friday night meeting
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there was five
teams, New Zealand,
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of pastors in New
Zealand. There was five teams
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of pastors and we
were doing a prayer session
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that lasted three
hours with five teams. Wow!
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And I mean it was just
because the Holy Spirit
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was there, and it was
just incredible at our
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camp meeting, but
I'm praying and the whole
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place is shaking and I
mean we had just during
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the prayer, just
during the four hours I think
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it was three
different earthquakes during
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that time, not
major ones like they had.
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You were thinking
wow! There is power in His
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prayer. Exactly, feels
like the whole place is
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shaking. Somebody
saying, I'd like you to pray
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for me because I'm
fully, I'm, I'm just fearful
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because we've had
over 4000 earthquakes since
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September and so as
we were praying for her
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fear, and I'm like, I
didn't know how to do that,
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but I, I want to
just say to our friends in
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New Zealand that we
are praying for you,
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and you have been
through a lot in the last
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little while.
That's right, yes, yes.
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And we, we love you
and our praying for you,
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I mean its, it's
tremendous when you look
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at the pictures and
you look at the video,
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the damage you
know, to people and not at
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only those lost
their lives and those who
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were injured, but just
their ideas of homes and,
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and buildings down
and businesses and I mean
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what this does to
your lifestyle and, and
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trying to get all
of that back together.
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But now that you have
family all over the world
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that really does love
you. And it's really you're
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on our heart and in
our minds and I know that
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at 3ABN here we have
a lot of friends there,
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and just that another
people have been praying.
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Yeah, wonderful.
Yeah. Well, we were talking
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about of course we
will talk with Brad,
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your husband and,
and she had given us the
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story and this was
her short version believe
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it or not, but
through this hour I'll say its
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quick version
anyway, but we got all the
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way through. Now,
they're married and he
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didn't know that he
had, had married Sister
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Teresa, her Mother
Teresa just about sort of
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speak because
when you're married,
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it wasn't, but all of
a sudden you, you want
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to get back to the
Lord and in church,
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not that you had
totally left the Lord,
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but you had left the
building you call it,
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and so you're
back in other building,
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so Brad says, well
okay maybe I can go with
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this, so you kind of
just join the church and
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feel like things are
okay, yeah, but you really
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don't have that
desire to like she has to go
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out and just Cheri
wants to win the whole
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world, yeah, yeah.
Like I haven't seen anybody,
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I've been in place
with her. We went one night
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to pizza place down in
Marion with some folks,
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and she wants to
witness to everybody, yeah,
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I mean she didn't
even take time out to like
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eat and you know
talk, I don't care where
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you are, she is gonna
witness to people, yeah.
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And then she wants
to win the whole world,
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but you're not
quite at that point yet.
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You know, let say
she is like you know,
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there is 20 foot
ground fire, well I'm like a
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little can that's
turned over, trying to keep
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the fun to soften
you know. And, and so it
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was real interesting,
again I was teaching at
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university, playing
in the orchestra went to
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this Jazz Festival
and you know, she, she
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would tell me from
time-to-time you know,
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God is telling me
you're gonna lead this ministry
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and I was like,
yeah sure whatever.
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And but it guns after
a little while was kind
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of like okay the
Jazz Festival, the
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administrative side
you know, I was starting
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to kind of burn out
on that a little bit and
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there was some
change in the administration
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at the university and,
and I could kind of see
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you know, okay maybe
it's time to be doing
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something different
and what, what about
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this you know,
ministry and, and you know
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I have been learning a
ton of different skills
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because of the festival,
I mean production skills,
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and event production,
and dealing with people
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and organization and,
and you know all this stuff.
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And so, kind of
marching along and then lo
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and behold that was
like, well we've decided
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not to renew your
contract, I got laid off,
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okay. So, now what,
okay, time for me to come
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to work, okay.
Because now I believe right,
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I'm good now, I'm
good now, here we go
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you know, and so it
was real interesting to,
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to kind. But at that
point what was really
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interesting is because
I knew that it was like
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it wasn't this heart
felt thing. And so, I knew
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that now we're gonna
live together and work
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together. And I had
looked at him and I said,
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do you know Hun
unless you get like a year
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of counseling that we
had to start to learn as
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we were together
that it may mess us up
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and so, we both
started to look at who we
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were communication
skills and spiritually,
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and at that point is
when I watched Brad come
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alive. Do you know
what I mean? He started
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to look at as a man
of God, if he stood up
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in that position with
integrity, who is he as my
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husband and at one
point he came home from
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ministry treat, he
had never been to one.
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If you haven't been to
one and you're out there,
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they, they change
you. And so, he went to the
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ministry treat and
he came home and he sat
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down across from me
and he said, Cheri I'm
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gonna win your
heart everyday. Wow!
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And I, that's what I
said. Oh! Okay, yeah.
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I said, I love ministry
treat, are you kidding me.
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That's really good.
She loves ministry treat
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now, yeah. And so,
it was to me was real
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interesting because
we had, we had gone and
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we started
counseling, it was one of those
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things and, and well
this is kind of curious and
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I hopefully speak to
some of the other man
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who maybe listening
to this. For as crazy as
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her background was
and you heard me talk
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earlier, mine was
you know, solid American
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middle class and I
don't have any issues,
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you're the one who
needs it, you got the messed
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up family you know
and all that stuff, yeah.
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And so, as we start
to getting the counseling
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soon its like oh!
Okay, so I'm critical, I have
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judgmental I, I'm she
likes the word arrogant,
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arrogant she says a
lot. High expectations,
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high expectations
and all that stuff,
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and you know, what
we kind of bowl it up
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and say, well this
is good, just try for
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excellence and do all
that stuff, the reality is
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this those can be
just as damaging, yes,
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to someone and
sometimes more so because
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they are socially
acceptable. And so, here
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we are walking along
thing and I'm be in the,
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the right doing and
all the right thing and you
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are just trashing
your family emotionally,
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and you don't even
know it. And so, it was
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interesting to starts,
I went to this ministry
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treat it was like
okay, God I wanna message,
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I'm ready, I'm
ready and I keep saying,
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I'm ready for the burning bush,
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I want to come home
someday and my hair will
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be white and all the
way back like this you know.
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That will happen but it
may take time that will happen.
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And so you know, I
went to the retreat
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and the speakers were good,
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but I'm getting
nothing, I go out and meditate
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for little while
and I got meditate,
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oh! God what do you
want to tell me about Cheri
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and my marriage
and nothing, nothing.
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So, I go back in and I'm
talking with my friend Jack
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and we're just
talking about life and stuff
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and he says this one thing.
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And it was, if God had hit
me with the lightening bolt
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it was like, that's
the message I mean it was
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I felt electric, it was
like that's the message.
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And, and that led
me to decide to change
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the person we were doing
our counseling with them,
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and everyone was like you
got to counsel this guy Joe,
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Joe is amazing. And he
is straight from the Bible.
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This guy that's all he used.
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Let me ask you Brad,
now where you guys going
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through some stuff, I
mean because obviously
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you're going home and
he is kind of chilling
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and you know, will
you go, go onto some,
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some social stuff
together. Not, not let me,
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let me say it
from my side first;
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since you get precisely, okay.
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You know, to me it
was like, it wasn't like
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I didn't think the
marriage was in trouble
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although she on an
emotional basis probably felt
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that it was, but it was
like it's not that we're in
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big trouble and
someone's beating each other up,
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or someone is walking
out the door, I actually want
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to learn I want to
learn to love for better,
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that where we stepped
in saying I think it's okay
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and probably doing
pretty good was my thing,
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but I wanted to be better, okay.
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So, it was really
from that place and that if
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we're gonna work
together and once we started
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doing the stuff, it was good
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because as one person
said, we're chalk and cheese.
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We may look the same.
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But don't exactly go together.
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But they are not
the same function,
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but you know what,
what I loved about it that,
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that his spiritual growth
is as he realize you know,
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because I've never
had a man in my life
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that took spiritual leadership,
I've never had someone
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in my life that I could
look at and know that that,
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if a decision has to
be made and that we're
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back and forth on it,
that I can trust you with my
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heart to make that decision
that, that final decision.
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And when he started
to do do that and I could
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take a breath
and realized that I,
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I think I've
wanted that my whole life.
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You know, I think of, you know,
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when I think most
women don't have it,
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and I shouldn't say
most women, a lot of women
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don't have it and
don't realize that we wanted,
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I mean I, I don't
want to take leadership.
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I don't want to be the
one that makes the decision,
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it's not my role, my
role is to nurture and love
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and to do, I mean
all that kind of stuff
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that is so cool that
I'm actually good at,
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and so as he took leadership,
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as he fell in love with
God, and then fell in love
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with taking care
of us as a family.
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It was amazing, it was amazing,
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that was everything
that I had ever dreamed off
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in my whole
life, not even knowing,
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that was a desire of my heart,
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is to have that in my home.
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So, for me it was
very interesting that,
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that experience
of the Ministry Treat
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led us to work
with this guy name Joe,
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and Joe I mean just
climbed inside your heart
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God did because it's,
it's, it's really a prayer
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based ministry and a spirit
led ministry as far as the,
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the counseling and
working on your issues,
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and I mean just under
covered a married stuff.
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And then what was real
interesting to was my dad
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passed away kind
of during this period
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and a number of
things in, in the process of
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cleaning out the
basement of my house,
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I discovered a bunch
of stuff that led to me
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inheriting things
on a generational bases
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that I didn't even know about.
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And I started
learning about my family
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and
characteristics about my family,
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and I love my
family and I say this
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with all the
compassion in the world,
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but discovered that I
inherit the critical judgment
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and, and all that
litigious stuff from my mom,
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born at a little tiny
town in Northern Wisconsin,
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250 people German
immigrants for parents you know,
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and all the
girls there by the time
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they are at high
school were pregnant
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married to a guy
working in the saw mill
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where they wanted
something better for,
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for their daughter. So,
she wasn't allow to play
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with the kids in
that town, was sent
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to boarding school
and you are better.
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Better, you're better than that.
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So, I inherited that.
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So, kind of
litigious mindset from,
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from your ghetto
yeah. And I didn't even know
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it discovered and,
and, and that my dad
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had a pornography
addiction and a sexual
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some kind of stuff that
way, find out that his dad did
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because I was
cleaning out the basement
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I found my dad stuff
and my grandpa stuff.
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You know, and by today
standard they were nothing,
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but still I knew
exactly what it was.
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So, I have been, I
have been subjected to that
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and because there is
no spiritual leadership
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in the household,
we're left vulnerable,
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we're
unprotected, do we got nothing
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going on you know,
and so as all that,
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if God starts pealing
back the layers so on.
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Let me, let me just say
one, one thing about with,
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with Brad when he
finds out the stuff
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about his dad's
addiction and the pornography
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and all that kind of
stuff, we realize this
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throughout the years
where he has kind of played
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with that addiction
and at one point decides
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to come to me and
ask me for forgiveness
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and not that he
ever had to mean,
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my background
was really wild and,
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and you know, I just felt like
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you don't have t do
that, but God said I want you
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to do that for
her, I want you to say
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I'm sorry that I, I, I'm sorry
00:14:29.41\00:14:31.60
that I didn't
save myself for you,
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I'm sorry that I have
all the stuff, I'm sorry and,
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and, and I'm also sorry
for the abuse that you had
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in your life and
with the tears in his eyes
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he just cleaned up
that stuff in his heart.
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And as he was cleaning
up that stuff in his heart
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I just was, I just
was won, I was won, I was,
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you know and, and I
think that for a lot of men
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and women when we work together
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that we don't realize,
when God says you know,
00:14:54.47\00:14:56.69
confessed to each
other, pray for each other,
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so that you can be
healed, get rid of that stuff,
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so that I can show
you what it feels like
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to be together
with the clean heart.
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And I, I think that I
didn't realize how powerful
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that was, and how much
God that wants that for us?
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And, and the more that
he did, the more that he,
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I won, I was won over is
more than he wanted to do
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and then the
more I was won over,
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and it was just
absolutely awesome.
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And I've got to just
say that that you know, the,
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the free offer that
we're talking about tonight
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is that Brad
realizes the power of even men
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in our lives praying
for us and covering us
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and my step dad, who is
alcoholic and dying of cancer
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and his alcoholism and
his drug addiction and,
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and not Christian at
one point Brad feels like
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I really like to pray
for him because he is sick,
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got sent home from the
hospital and hospice care.
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And I talk about that on
the DVD, but he goes and,
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and brings my, my
step dad brings him
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to Christ before he
dies. Wow! And, and who would
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have known that this
is guy that wasn't even
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standing up and
when he did stand up,
00:16:02.07\00:16:03.92
he changed everything,
changed everything, yeah.
00:16:04.11\00:16:07.48
And, he now just
being able to say that that,
00:16:07.67\00:16:09.59
that now as he stepping
up is, is I heard him talking
00:16:09.78\00:16:13.50
one time and he was
talking to somebody you know,
00:16:13.68\00:16:15.93
I think I'm joining Cheri
In the ministry and he says,
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you know what do you do then?
00:16:18.97\00:16:20.47
He says, well I'm the President.
00:16:20.67\00:16:21.89
And I am
listening to this, I think
00:16:24.50\00:16:26.10
he is a
President, wait a minute.
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And but, but soon
as I said wait a minute
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God said, he is the
President, you know,
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it is the, the
leadership has to be the way
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has to be, okay. And
I, I thought, I thought
00:16:35.87\00:16:38.00
how funny that God, God
says I know where people
00:16:38.19\00:16:40.73
are gonna stand I
just needed to clean up
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and surrender and
then I can stand to them.
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Yeah, wow! We, we want
to for those of you at home,
00:16:45.34\00:16:48.42
if you have
questions or comments,
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we have some already coming in,
00:16:49.97\00:16:51.28
but hopefully the
last maybe 15-20 minutes
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we'll take some of
these and go through,
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so we've ask you, if
you want to just again
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you can call us
at (618) 627-4651,
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or the freeoffer@3abn, right?
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Yeah, freeoffer@3abn
and then if you want
00:17:05.96\00:17:07.50
to send in
questions, L.I.V.E. okay,
00:17:07.70\00:17:10.75
live@3abn.org for,
for your questions.
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You know, if, if you guys
ever write a second sequel
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to your first book or
you may you call it Oh! Baby.
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Hey that's a good name Oh! Baby,
00:17:20.21\00:17:21.46
because you started
with Oh! Baby, Oh! Baby.
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Of course God shows you
now that he has given you
00:17:23.07\00:17:24.95
a man of God, so now
you'll say it Oh! Baby.
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You know,
exactly, exactly, okay.
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It is amazing.
It is very powerful.
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And you know and, and
what's really incredible now
00:17:31.72\00:17:34.04
is that then at the
entire time that God has laid
00:17:34.26\00:17:38.01
this on my heart to
work with someone is
00:17:38.24\00:17:40.96
when I came into my recovery
00:17:41.19\00:17:42.75
there was really no place to go.
00:17:42.96\00:17:44.14
You know, it was like
I came from the streets
00:17:44.37\00:17:46.03
and I really didn't have
any place I could actually
00:17:46.25\00:17:48.85
just go and, and
spend sometime getting
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in my life to get and whatever.
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And I've always wanted
to do that and so, as a
00:17:52.88\00:17:55.77
Brad is standing now,
we, years ago I wrote,
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if I had a dream in
place what would it look like?
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And, and I thought you
know, wouldn't it be fun
00:18:04.39\00:18:07.20
to have a place a recovery
house for you could come
00:18:07.44\00:18:09.91
and do your 3
months or 15 months
00:18:10.12\00:18:11.97
whatever it took
you to do your recovery,
00:18:12.19\00:18:13.89
but I've some really cool things
00:18:14.10\00:18:15.64
that you can do
in the mean time.
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And so you know, I'm
always going to juvenile halls
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and jails and, and
prisons and rehab centers
00:18:19.95\00:18:22.36
and all that kind of
stuff, so I thought you know,
00:18:22.56\00:18:24.42
as you come in, we'll
teach you to stand up like
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David Asscherick has
that Evangelistic Center,
00:18:28.45\00:18:30.42
where you learned to
be in evangelism, right.
00:18:30.63\00:18:32.40
But you know, how
about somebody learning
00:18:32.62\00:18:34.23
to stand up and
give their testimony
00:18:34.44\00:18:35.96
and going out and
talking about that,
00:18:36.14\00:18:37.68
so I thought it
be kind of like that.
00:18:37.89\00:18:39.36
And so, I thought
you know, what we need
00:18:39.58\00:18:41.12
a little kind of
studio, television studio,
00:18:41.30\00:18:44.02
so we can put the
testimony on DVD in case
00:18:44.23\00:18:46.91
we want to show that
and, and wait in them,
00:18:47.09\00:18:49.19
so if people are in recovery
let's get them certified
00:18:49.39\00:18:51.58
in different things
in sound, in editing
00:18:51.80\00:18:53.64
and writing and, and
been able to do that and so,
00:18:53.82\00:18:56.42
when they leave the program
00:18:56.61\00:18:57.58
they have some
certification, sure.
00:18:57.66\00:18:58.97
Let's do a music studio
in case we want to do DVDs
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and Brad done the music
and so wrote all this up.
00:19:01.83\00:19:04.05
And at this point and
I brought some drawings
00:19:04.27\00:19:08.01
of the place that
we're actually looking at.
00:19:08.21\00:19:09.85
We, we had, we have a picture
00:19:10.05\00:19:11.02
I believe of
the residence, okay,
00:19:11.03\00:19:12.88
or we could take a
look of that, okay.
00:19:13.10\00:19:15.44
And understand that
this is a really the dream
00:19:15.52\00:19:19.40
has been Cheri's for a
long time by God's grace, yeah,
00:19:19.61\00:19:24.13
we got some people
to put some drawings
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together for us
that I mean really,
00:19:26.20\00:19:28.83
it's, it's really fun
we've, we've been in touch
00:19:29.03\00:19:30.67
with the, a contracting
company, a Christian based
00:19:30.85\00:19:33.05
contracting company, and
so is, is the Star Center
00:19:33.24\00:19:37.55
is what it will
be called, and so.
00:19:37.75\00:19:38.74
And star saving those,
saving at those at risk.
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Wow! So, so
somebody said you know,
00:19:41.10\00:19:43.11
what if they don't want
to do media and, and so,
00:19:43.30\00:19:46.29
so we said, well
let's do a vegan vegetarian
00:19:46.51\00:19:49.33
little cafe and teach
culinary arts you know,
00:19:49.54\00:19:52.39
and let's having
an organic garden
00:19:52.59\00:19:54.35
and grow some
organic garden stuff.
00:19:54.56\00:19:56.10
And, and so what ever
do we in the community
00:19:56.32\00:19:57.93
with that, oh! We'll
let's feed take meals
00:19:58.14\00:20:00.98
to people in hospice cares.
00:20:01.16\00:20:02.47
Let's take meals to
people that are shut ins.
00:20:02.68\00:20:05.01
And so, as you're
going through this program
00:20:05.20\00:20:07.50
let's teach you this,
let's grow some garden stuff,
00:20:07.70\00:20:10.37
let's learn about
health and healthy living
00:20:10.57\00:20:13.03
and eating and then that's
00:20:13.22\00:20:14.30
how we reach out
to the community.
00:20:14.48\00:20:15.47
And so, as its
developing what's really fun
00:20:15.68\00:20:18.08
about that is Brad
standing up in a time where the,
00:20:18.28\00:20:22.09
the dream was kind
of, is coming to a point
00:20:22.32\00:20:26.06
where everything
is starting to happen.
00:20:26.27\00:20:27.64
And I don't think
it could have happened
00:20:27.84\00:20:30.38
had he not been
standing up, right.
00:20:30.59\00:20:33.02
And so, it's to me it's
just an amazing God's timing.
00:20:33.23\00:20:36.13
And, and so what's
really kind of fun in,
00:20:36.35\00:20:38.20
we have another
little picture that I think
00:20:38.39\00:20:40.08
is of the, the site
itself, so there is three
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buildings one will be a
residence that would house
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about 12 people, then
one is the, the media center
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classrooms with the TV
studio and, and, and classrooms
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where they will get
you know work on healing
00:20:51.64\00:20:54.21
their hearts and
learning about God really,
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and then the
other would be the cafe
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with the kitchen and what not.
00:20:58.05\00:20:59.20
And so, looking
back is very interesting
00:20:59.41\00:21:01.07
that I sold real
estate for eight years,
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so here is an
actual construction project
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that I at least have
some background in putting
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stuff up from scratch
what the concepts are?
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Yeah. With the events all
the stuff with Jean Harrison,
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the event production
that you know, organizing
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something on that
capacity, and having some
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understanding about
hanging lights and you know and,
00:21:18.70\00:21:21.36
and all that I mean God
has so prepared for this time.
00:21:21.55\00:21:24.67
And, and I'm gonna
say real quick and I had
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this thing
happened to me the other day
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I'm involved
with team in training,
00:21:28.98\00:21:31.08
which is a leukemia
society thing that deals
00:21:31.27\00:21:34.44
with fighting cancer
and they do it by doing
00:21:34.64\00:21:35.99
marathons, triathlons
and hundred mile bike rides,
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so I've done
5000 miles on my bike
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in the last two
years. Wow! Praise God.
00:21:42.07\00:21:43.91
And I'm the official
coach, so we endorse because
00:21:44.10\00:21:45.86
this winter and training
and Cheri is off ministering
00:21:46.06\00:21:48.03
in New Hampshire
somewhere, and you know,
00:21:48.23\00:21:50.10
and, and it's one
of those things during
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on my healing and stuff
there is 1.2 as you know,
00:21:52.41\00:21:54.52
like ECGs yeah,
he is right there,
00:21:54.71\00:21:56.21
but I can't feel
them, my arms are too short
00:21:56.41\00:21:57.85
to reach him, I mean
this is literally in my mind,
00:21:58.06\00:22:00.28
these are the visions,
its there but you know,
00:22:00.45\00:22:02.41
I can't get there yet.
And so, I'm paddling away
00:22:02.62\00:22:04.81
on the spin bike and I
know she is in New Hampshire
00:22:05.01\00:22:07.37
doing a presentation
and all of the sudden
00:22:07.56\00:22:09.77
I literally felt it
was like yellow fire
00:22:09.96\00:22:13.32
right in front of
me, I mean almost visual
00:22:13.52\00:22:16.30
and I felt the
warmth of Christ hands
00:22:16.50\00:22:19.09
on my shoulders
like for about 5 seconds
00:22:19.28\00:22:21.09
and during that same
time, all I think was about her,
00:22:21.29\00:22:24.74
is I love you, I love
you, I love you, I love you,
00:22:24.94\00:22:26.68
and it was like the
love of Christ was flowing
00:22:26.87\00:22:29.02
through to me to
meet her, I'm sitting
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on the spin bike, oh
there are other people,
00:22:30.79\00:22:32.82
and she like, okay
I probably can't talk
00:22:33.02\00:22:35.66
about this right
now, what your speed,
00:22:35.86\00:22:38.98
I can do a bit in
appropriate, but you know to me
00:22:39.18\00:22:41.58
it was like God is so
unbelievably in present
00:22:41.77\00:22:44.32
and what's really fun
is I've, I've, I've caught
00:22:44.52\00:22:47.21
the vision and, and, and
inspiration and you know,
00:22:47.40\00:22:50.75
when it's, it's
we're just, we're really
00:22:50.93\00:22:52.23
excited about
what's taking place.
00:22:52.43\00:22:53.90
Go, go ahead. Can I
say something that that
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I think that, and
this may sound crazy,
00:22:57.39\00:23:00.00
but I figured out that
with the cost of all this
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and staff, if we had
500 people give a $1000,
00:23:04.36\00:23:07.23
I just had to say that out loud,
00:23:07.43\00:23:09.26
and that's not you
know, and so every time
00:23:09.47\00:23:11.88
I go out now I just
say, okay, you know,
00:23:12.05\00:23:13.86
that it everybody
just give something
00:23:14.05\00:23:16.06
we could actually.
We could make this.
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That's that I
wanna talk to the viewers
00:23:17.82\00:23:19.22
about right now.
Yeah. And we, we're gonna
00:23:19.42\00:23:21.68
have a prayer in just a moment,
00:23:21.88\00:23:22.97
I'm gonna ask
Pastor C.A. Murray to pray
00:23:23.16\00:23:25.82
and we're gonna
ask the Holy Spirit
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as the Holy
Spirit impresses you.
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The Lord maybe saying to you,
00:23:30.23\00:23:32.30
what is this you
have in your hand?
00:23:32.49\00:23:33.64
Maybe you have
something that you can send
00:23:33.85\00:23:35.55
a junk and you are
willing to sale it,
00:23:35.76\00:23:37.61
you are willing to get
rid of it maybe you are in,
00:23:37.82\00:23:40.34
in a business and you
say, Lord if you give me an
00:23:40.52\00:23:42.30
extra percentage as
investment I'll, I'll give
00:23:42.51\00:23:45.74
it to the ministry of
True Step, I, I'll give it,
00:23:45.93\00:23:48.35
I'll do, whatever
you just be open Lord
00:23:48.55\00:23:50.73
what would you have me to do?
00:23:50.93\00:23:52.19
And we know there is all
kinds of projects going on,
00:23:52.39\00:23:54.14
but really what, all
that matters James says
00:23:54.33\00:23:57.37
that that what
true Christianity is,
00:23:57.57\00:24:00.28
and I know you know
this well, is helping those
00:24:00.47\00:24:02.72
basically who can't
help themselves, amen.
00:24:02.90\00:24:04.57
Motherless, the children,
those that are like you
00:24:04.77\00:24:08.57
so vulnerable and
take an advantage of him,
00:24:08.76\00:24:10.65
what you guys are
doing is, is, is it's like,
00:24:10.83\00:24:13.26
I see this complex is
bringing a lot of youth,
00:24:13.45\00:24:16.57
lot of Cheri's and,
and now equipping them
00:24:16.76\00:24:20.70
and doing it in a way
that that's an organized way
00:24:20.88\00:24:23.81
that can help people
and from your experience,
00:24:24.00\00:24:25.76
where you had to take
each step by yourself.
00:24:25.96\00:24:27.98
We don't want
somebody come in and then
00:24:28.18\00:24:29.62
going back out for a
while because they didn't know
00:24:29.80\00:24:31.88
how to deal with
all of this? Exactly.
00:24:32.07\00:24:34.52
And with the
experience that you have and so,
00:24:34.70\00:24:36.74
this is something that
coming souls for eternity,
00:24:36.94\00:24:38.94
so there is really
nothing more important
00:24:39.15\00:24:41.04
and it's not the
buildings that are important,
00:24:41.23\00:24:42.59
but buildings are necessary.
And so, as we see this
00:24:42.78\00:24:45.93
we want to get
together with you in prayer
00:24:46.12\00:24:47.61
and we're gonna ask
you and we want to put up
00:24:47.81\00:24:49.62
an address after the prayer.
00:24:49.82\00:24:51.00
And how you can contact them
00:24:51.20\00:24:53.39
and some of you
can do more than that,
00:24:53.60\00:24:55.46
some of, there is
people that honestly
00:24:55.66\00:24:57.28
can send a $100,000,
there is somebody send 50,
00:24:57.48\00:25:00.06
there is somebody that
only sends $5, amen, amen.
00:25:00.26\00:25:02.95
But 3ABN has kept
going by thousands of people
00:25:03.16\00:25:05.40
every month, yeah, that
are giving $10, $50, or $100
00:25:05.59\00:25:09.08
and there are those who
send a 1000 from time-to-time.
00:25:09.28\00:25:12.44
So, believe that
we're on the same team.
00:25:12.63\00:25:14.86
People used to say,
well how do you going
00:25:15.06\00:25:17.01
your program
everyday and all your guest
00:25:17.21\00:25:18.75
you raise money for them?
00:25:18.95\00:25:20.28
I say, well we're all
on the same team, amen.
00:25:20.47\00:25:22.87
And the Lord blesses
all of us, so when our,
00:25:23.07\00:25:24.86
as we're willing
to reach out and so,
00:25:25.06\00:25:26.73
we want you to
really think about and pray
00:25:26.92\00:25:28.53
about you've
heard the testimonies,
00:25:28.73\00:25:30.40
you see what they're
doing, hopefully you've caught
00:25:30.61\00:25:32.85
the vision and we
want to support that,
00:25:33.04\00:25:35.21
so I'm gonna ask
Pastor C.A. Murray,
00:25:35.40\00:25:36.95
if you will just pray for us.
00:25:37.16\00:25:38.75
Let's join hands
here, let's do, alright.
00:25:38.94\00:25:40.01
Gracious Father,
we come to you now,
00:25:42.19\00:25:43.87
and our hearts are glad,
we're happy, we're excited.
00:25:44.07\00:25:47.79
We're happy for
the moving of God
00:25:47.99\00:25:50.77
not only in Brad
and Cheri's life,
00:25:50.98\00:25:53.47
but in this room
and in these ministries,
00:25:53.67\00:25:55.74
we have seen tonight
the unfolding of a brand
00:25:55.94\00:25:58.99
new vision. And we pray
God that the same excitement,
00:25:59.19\00:26:03.87
which aminates our
souls will fill the hearts
00:26:04.06\00:26:07.59
and minds of those who
have the funds that can be used
00:26:07.79\00:26:11.01
to lift up the name of
Jesus and further the gospel
00:26:11.22\00:26:15.18
in this, this new
venture, this new ministry
00:26:15.38\00:26:17.73
for Christ. Father
God, first of all we pray
00:26:17.93\00:26:20.79
your blessing on Cheri and Brad.
00:26:20.99\00:26:22.89
We know that
whenever we stand up for you,
00:26:23.09\00:26:26.58
Satan stands up to
appose, but we also know
00:26:26.77\00:26:30.68
that greater is he
that is in us, amen,
00:26:30.89\00:26:32.75
than he that is in the world.
00:26:32.95\00:26:34.06
And so, we commend them
to you to move them from
00:26:34.26\00:26:38.24
strength-to-strength and
victory-to-victory, amen,
00:26:38.44\00:26:41.92
until this ministry
is made a full reality
00:26:42.10\00:26:45.06
and hundreds,
thousands of lost souls, yes,
00:26:45.26\00:26:49.36
can come and find
their way to the very throne
00:26:49.56\00:26:53.99
will move God, amen, to
the foot of the cross, yes,
00:26:54.20\00:26:56.85
to the heart of Jesus.
Father even now touch those
00:26:57.06\00:27:00.73
who are thinking about
what to do with their money,
00:27:00.92\00:27:03.83
who may be even ask me Lord,
00:27:04.02\00:27:06.26
where should I place my money?
00:27:06.45\00:27:07.55
What can I do to
help the cause of Christ?
00:27:07.75\00:27:10.11
Yes. Lord, convict
them, convince them
00:27:10.32\00:27:13.18
that this is a worthy project,
00:27:13.39\00:27:15.57
but more than that it's
God's project. Yeah, amen.
00:27:15.78\00:27:19.58
It's Christ project,
amen. It's something that you
00:27:19.76\00:27:22.17
prepared these two
wonderful Christians for,
00:27:22.38\00:27:24.82
for a long time
Lord you've, you've given
00:27:25.01\00:27:28.22
Brad skills and, yes,
and, and, and abilities,
00:27:28.42\00:27:31.40
you've prepared him
for this time and certainly
00:27:31.60\00:27:34.90
you have called
Cheri, yeah, to the field
00:27:35.09\00:27:38.08
for such a time as
this. And we're happy at 3ABN
00:27:38.29\00:27:41.60
to just have the
opportunity, yes,
00:27:41.79\00:27:43.64
to share their
vision with the world.
00:27:43.84\00:27:45.84
And so, Father I
commend them to you
00:27:46.04\00:27:48.63
and ask you in the
name of Jesus, yes,
00:27:48.83\00:27:51.24
to give them
Heaven's very best, amen,
00:27:51.45\00:27:54.60
and move this
ministry along, let it become
00:27:54.81\00:27:57.07
a reality, so that
thousands can find the way
00:27:57.26\00:27:59.88
to Christ Lord, alright,
we love you, we praise you
00:28:00.07\00:28:02.40
and we thank you for
your promise to answer
00:28:02.58\00:28:05.03
the prayer faith in
Jesus name, amen, amen, amen.
00:28:05.22\00:28:09.53
I have reason to
believe in miracles
00:28:10.28\00:28:12.00
like the dawn expects the sun,
00:28:12.20\00:28:13.77
I will not accept
defeat from my trust in him
00:28:13.97\00:28:16.64
is complete, again my victory,
00:28:16.85\00:28:18.56
is already been
won. I love that.
00:28:18.75\00:28:20.62
So, I praise, I
praise the Lord for that
00:28:20.81\00:28:23.07
to take the chorus. Good deal.
00:28:23.26\00:28:24.32
It's a chorus of the
song, but it's, it's a wonderful
00:28:24.51\00:28:27.02
song I've reason
to believe in miracles
00:28:27.22\00:28:29.05
like the dawn expects the sun,
00:28:29.25\00:28:30.99
so right now you all
are looking for a miracle,
00:28:31.19\00:28:33.09
we are, God has done
many, many miracles, amen.
00:28:33.27\00:28:36.12
So, it doesn't make any
difference, if you needs
00:28:36.31\00:28:37.91
are thousand
dollars or million dollars
00:28:38.11\00:28:41.00
because God is,
has all the resources,
00:28:41.21\00:28:43.82
all the
resources. You know what I,
00:28:44.02\00:28:44.99
what I love Danny
too about you know?
00:28:45.00\00:28:46.71
I would like every
church to know that if you have
00:28:46.91\00:28:49.64
somebody that you don't
know what to do with them,
00:28:49.84\00:28:51.58
call us up, send them to us.
00:28:51.78\00:28:53.54
If you have a
pastor that wants to work
00:28:53.75\00:28:55.34
with all those
people, send them to us,
00:28:55.55\00:28:57.05
let us go and have
programs that teach not only
00:28:57.27\00:28:59.76
the idea how to do
that, but the person
00:28:59.96\00:29:02.02
that's interesting in
that ministry because I know
00:29:02.21\00:29:05.19
that God has a need
and a plan for all of us.
00:29:05.40\00:29:09.01
You know what I mean?
That anybody standing up
00:29:09.22\00:29:11.11
is you can stand
them up and send them out,
00:29:11.31\00:29:13.06
it's just huge. I
ask you a question.
00:29:13.25\00:29:14.91
Let's put up,
let's put up the address,
00:29:15.11\00:29:16.59
it's good time to do,
well we're thinking about it,
00:29:16.79\00:29:18.54
we'd like to put up the address,
00:29:18.75\00:29:19.72
if the Holy Spirit
is impressing, yeah,
00:29:19.89\00:29:21.54
you want to contact
and you have questions,
00:29:21.74\00:29:23.05
you want to donate to
them, you want to find out
00:29:23.25\00:29:24.91
about the materials,
they have available for you,
00:29:25.12\00:29:27.69
you may do so at
the following address.
00:29:27.89\00:29:29.60
If you would like
to contact Cheri Peters
00:29:33.33\00:29:34.95
or if you would like
to support her ministry,
00:29:35.15\00:29:36.53
then you can write
to True Step Ministries,
00:29:36.74\00:29:39.51
PO Box 163, Kuna, Idaho, 83634.
00:29:39.71\00:29:44.48
That's True Step
Ministries, PO Box 163,
00:29:44.67\00:29:48.82
Kuna, Idaho,
83634. You can call her at
00:29:49.28\00:29:53.32
(208) 562-8477,
that's (208) 562-8477,
00:29:53.52\00:29:59.90
or you can visit her
website for testimonies,
00:30:00.09\00:30:02.92
live event information
and more at truestep.org,
00:30:03.14\00:30:07.09
it's all one word truestep.org.
00:30:07.29\00:30:11.29
Contact her today, she
will love to hear from you.
00:30:11.48\00:30:14.77
Okay, we've got
about 27 some minutes left,
00:30:17.49\00:30:19.70
we want to finish up and
I know you got a little more
00:30:19.91\00:30:21.87
to talk about, then
we'll ask you few questions
00:30:22.08\00:30:23.69
from the audience.
So, we have a couple
00:30:23.88\00:30:25.62
of other things that
we're really excited about is
00:30:25.81\00:30:27.65
through this
process of the healing,
00:30:27.86\00:30:29.57
Cheri and I have done
we've realized that getting
00:30:29.76\00:30:31.90
couples to stand up
together is really something
00:30:32.11\00:30:35.52
that God delights in,
we call to be the light
00:30:35.73\00:30:38.80
of the world and
walking what is that mean?
00:30:39.01\00:30:40.52
You know, I want, when
she and I walking to the room
00:30:40.74\00:30:42.92
together people look at
how much we love and they go,
00:30:43.12\00:30:44.98
man I want a piece of
that. How they can do that?
00:30:45.18\00:30:46.15
What's going on with that?
00:30:47.21\00:30:48.20
You know, yeah, and
so, we're starting to do
00:30:48.39\00:30:49.36
counseling that way, in
fact we did, couples retreat,
00:30:50.93\00:30:52.85
couples and we're,
we're planning our first ever
00:30:53.05\00:30:54.81
couples retreat in
November this year.
00:30:55.00\00:30:56.63
Again you can find out
about it at the website,
00:30:56.82\00:30:58.44
it's in this wonderful
place up in Mccall, Idaho,
00:30:58.65\00:31:00.73
its beautiful
camp right to heaven.
00:31:00.93\00:31:02.73
I don't know if
you're familiar with that,
00:31:02.94\00:31:04.29
but it's, its part
of our Adventist network
00:31:04.50\00:31:07.15
of places to go and it's
beautiful in Payette lake.
00:31:07.36\00:31:09.61
And so, we're
offering that and another thing
00:31:09.84\00:31:12.65
we're excited
about again through the,
00:31:12.85\00:31:14.11
the team in training
stuff is we have receive
00:31:14.31\00:31:17.79
donations of one of the
people works at the shoe,
00:31:17.99\00:31:21.84
a shoe store,
running shoe, and people go
00:31:22.04\00:31:24.07
and buy these $100,
$150, $200 running shoes
00:31:24.27\00:31:26.37
and they wear them
for a week and then,
00:31:26.58\00:31:27.86
and it's like,
well they don't fit me
00:31:28.07\00:31:29.04
and then bring
them back, for a day,
00:31:29.05\00:31:30.26
sometimes for a day.
We have been donated to us
00:31:30.48\00:31:33.93
some boxes of these, I
mean, so probably it has
00:31:34.14\00:31:37.08
4, 500 pairs of shoes.
Wow! And so, so then somebody
00:31:37.30\00:31:41.33
from Australia that little
girl said, she watched her
00:31:41.52\00:31:43.99
during the flood, she
watched her shoe float
00:31:44.20\00:31:46.54
down the thing
and she lost her shoes
00:31:46.75\00:31:48.29
and so we're taking
for, because I'm speaking
00:31:48.51\00:31:50.39
at AYC with you
C.A, yeah, in June.
00:31:50.60\00:31:53.50
And so, we're taking 700
pairs of shoes for people
00:31:53.70\00:31:56.50
that lost their
shoes during the flood.
00:31:56.71\00:31:58.02
That's great. And the
guys are gonna continue,
00:31:58.22\00:31:59.96
so the people in
Haiti because you have
00:32:00.16\00:32:01.55
that clinic in Haiti, yes good,
00:32:01.74\00:32:02.71
it's been bringing
some shoes over. Oh! Yeah.
00:32:03.00\00:32:04.95
So, it's really fun to
just say, God whatever we can
00:32:05.14\00:32:07.80
put in our hands,
let to put in our hands,
00:32:08.00\00:32:09.54
so that we can send out.
00:32:09.73\00:32:10.70
Cheri we got to ask
you a question, yes.
00:32:10.83\00:32:12.84
How did it feel to
you, what went on your mind
00:32:13.04\00:32:17.51
when after so many
years of sort of chariness
00:32:17.71\00:32:19.81
brought by yourself
and praying for the mate
00:32:20.01\00:32:22.96
that would help you with this?
00:32:23.17\00:32:24.70
When, when God reveal
to you, here is your guy,
00:32:24.90\00:32:27.29
he is onboard with you?
00:32:27.48\00:32:29.12
How did you, you want to
do this by our self anymore?
00:32:29.33\00:32:31.63
How did it, how
did it feel to you?
00:32:31.82\00:32:33.18
I can even tell you it's
felt like, I always thought
00:32:33.39\00:32:35.92
that you know what
I'm going to have somebody
00:32:36.11\00:32:38.05
finally love me
on the second coming,
00:32:38.25\00:32:39.59
when Jesus comes back
and it will all make sense
00:32:39.79\00:32:41.83
and this pain will
lift. But when Brad came in
00:32:42.03\00:32:45.50
and took that position
and pain started to leave then
00:32:45.71\00:32:48.08
and Jesus said, I
plan victory for you now
00:32:48.27\00:32:51.59
not only at the second coming,
00:32:51.81\00:32:53.25
but I want you to
have life abundantly now.
00:32:53.46\00:32:55.98
I wanted to weep like a
baby because I never felt
00:32:56.17\00:32:59.06
that God really does
want us to experience,
00:32:59.27\00:33:04.13
what it feels
like to be truly love,
00:33:04.35\00:33:07.06
and to love the
people around you.
00:33:07.26\00:33:08.64
And all of the sudden I
realized that the gospel
00:33:08.84\00:33:10.74
is bigger than I
imagined, that's it.
00:33:10.94\00:33:14.29
You know, yeah,
yesterday and you are witness
00:33:14.50\00:33:16.63
to this yesterday Brad is
playing in the studio for,
00:33:16.82\00:33:20.30
he is playing beautiful,
how great that work kind
00:33:20.49\00:33:22.79
of medley something else,
yeah, with that beautiful.
00:33:22.99\00:33:25.04
And so, you and me and
I think Dr. Louis was here
00:33:25.23\00:33:26.20
and John
Lomacang, Tim, Tim Partner,
00:33:29.48\00:33:32.07
there was a number of us
who sat here in the studio
00:33:32.29\00:33:33.93
and Brad is playing
and he is doing this
00:33:34.13\00:33:36.43
real great job and he
is playing and we're all
00:33:36.64\00:33:39.09
listening you know
with, with you know,
00:33:39.29\00:33:41.37
just kind of and
all of a sudden this,
00:33:41.58\00:33:43.16
this I don't know what it
was the street fly passed us
00:33:43.37\00:33:46.37
and it, and it's up
like haa, and its her,
00:33:46.57\00:33:50.22
and it's like. I love it.
00:33:50.43\00:33:51.90
It was like now wait a minute.
00:33:52.10\00:33:53.38
It was like what was that.
00:33:53.57\00:33:54.54
Haven't you ever seen
him play before? I have.
00:33:54.73\00:33:56.81
And she was just and
the person beside me said
00:33:57.02\00:33:59.14
look at her she is
madly in love with him. Yeah.
00:33:59.34\00:34:01.22
And I said, well she really is.
00:34:01.42\00:34:03.09
She really
throws her arms around,
00:34:03.30\00:34:04.27
yeah, yeah, she
really is the groom.
00:34:04.33\00:34:05.78
Yeah, I'm, I'm,
I'm not even sure
00:34:06.01\00:34:07.23
he has through
playing the, the song
00:34:07.43\00:34:08.90
and she was like
oh! But that was cute,
00:34:09.10\00:34:11.66
I mean it was
wonderful. It really was.
00:34:11.86\00:34:13.44
I watch that you
support him so much.
00:34:13.64\00:34:15.56
I watch this
incredible musician,
00:34:15.76\00:34:17.51
a classical musician, he
is, he has played the molar
00:34:17.71\00:34:20.92
with the San Francisco symphony,
00:34:21.13\00:34:22.40
he has done great
stuff, yeah, in his career
00:34:22.61\00:34:25.23
and now he is
dedicating, he is playing to God
00:34:25.43\00:34:27.66
and to me, yeah. God
you know, the change is just
00:34:27.86\00:34:31.38
so amazing to me. He
hit this one high end note
00:34:31.59\00:34:33.95
and he bit that
and she went flying by.
00:34:34.14\00:34:35.11
Yeah, didn't she?
Yeah, she was like,
00:34:36.86\00:34:38.29
oh! Baby all over
the day. Oh! Baby.
00:34:38.49\00:34:40.26
I'm back, yeah,
that maybe the next book.
00:34:40.45\00:34:42.34
That's your next book,
the next book, oh! Baby,
00:34:42.53\00:34:44.24
alright, oh! Baby alright.
00:34:44.45\00:34:46.55
Let's do a couple
of questions right now
00:34:46.75\00:34:48.70
and then if you
got other thoughts,
00:34:48.90\00:34:50.29
on finishing
things we're gonna do,
00:34:50.49\00:34:51.46
we'll do it, well we
told the folks we would.
00:34:52.00\00:34:52.97
This caller says,
I've had addictions
00:34:53.77\00:34:56.34
in my whole life, I
manage to get over alcohol,
00:34:56.53\00:34:58.18
tobacco, food, I manage
to handle those addictions,
00:34:58.38\00:35:01.83
but I have a
pornography addiction
00:35:02.03\00:35:03.40
that I cannot get control.
00:35:03.61\00:35:05.42
Can you give me
some advice how do I
00:35:05.63\00:35:07.31
overcome this
addiction that I have?
00:35:07.50\00:35:09.99
What's really hard
about porn addictions
00:35:11.32\00:35:13.22
or sexual
addictions is, because they are
00:35:13.42\00:35:15.42
so shame based, we
do them in silence.
00:35:15.62\00:35:17.60
You know what I mean?
And, and so the other ones
00:35:17.81\00:35:20.02
I can tell you that you
know what it's hard for me
00:35:20.23\00:35:21.63
to quit smoking and
you can sympathize with me,
00:35:21.84\00:35:23.70
but I'm not gonna
tell you I'm online
00:35:23.91\00:35:25.78
porn on most nights,
you know what I mean?
00:35:25.99\00:35:27.38
So, it's a very silent
thing. And so, most addiction
00:35:27.58\00:35:30.49
you have to start
bring an accountability and,
00:35:30.69\00:35:32.95
and you guys know
Bernie Anderson has a ministry
00:35:33.15\00:35:35.95
online with Triple X
Church and that kind of thing,
00:35:36.15\00:35:38.52
but, but you know, so you
really need to say out loud
00:35:38.74\00:35:42.24
to somebody that this is
what I'm struggling with,
00:35:42.43\00:35:45.30
getting the
accountability partner,
00:35:45.51\00:35:47.75
get someone that
you can say you know,
00:35:47.95\00:35:50.17
this has got me every
single time I turn around then
00:35:50.38\00:35:54.62
and we used porn addictions,
or sexual addictions we,
00:35:54.84\00:35:58.01
we, we used them
when we feel stress,
00:35:58.22\00:36:00.67
when we feel disrespected,
00:36:00.88\00:36:02.07
when we feel out of
control, when I'm angry?
00:36:02.28\00:36:03.99
There are so many
things that that our sexual
00:36:04.20\00:36:06.29
addictions cover that
it's almost like somebody
00:36:06.49\00:36:09.66
that's really got
an anxiety disorder
00:36:09.86\00:36:11.82
and they take
Valium, but for sex addict
00:36:12.04\00:36:14.74
we do sexual
things we get online.
00:36:14.95\00:36:17.21
And so, you really have
to get in accountability
00:36:17.42\00:36:19.84
to your partner
and then learn to deal
00:36:20.05\00:36:21.60
with your stress
in the different way.
00:36:21.80\00:36:22.77
And it all takes time, and you?
00:36:22.99\00:36:23.96
One other things that I
think is, is interesting
00:36:24.86\00:36:26.77
and again I am
gonna speak to men
00:36:26.98\00:36:28.17
and there are women who
have this addiction as well,
00:36:28.38\00:36:30.35
but the men in
particular is, is the studies
00:36:30.55\00:36:32.80
have shown that with
men when they are involved
00:36:33.01\00:36:36.84
with this, they
actually wined up creating
00:36:37.04\00:36:40.12
a chemical bonding
with the image on the screen
00:36:40.34\00:36:43.90
that neurochemically this
is what happened you know,
00:36:44.12\00:36:47.78
rewind and rebind to it
with your brain to where you,
00:36:47.98\00:36:50.06
you can't have a relationship
with the real person
00:36:50.26\00:36:52.63
because you've
created it with this image
00:36:52.84\00:36:54.44
on the screen, yeah,
yeah. And so the, the depth
00:36:54.64\00:36:56.86
and the
insidiousness of Satan's plot
00:36:57.05\00:37:00.20
with this is so
great. So, what you've got,
00:37:00.40\00:37:02.67
you really do have to
start to reprogram your brain
00:37:02.87\00:37:05.70
and the other
thing Cheri talked about,
00:37:05.91\00:37:07.29
but kind of having
that understanding something
00:37:07.51\00:37:09.02
is like you've actually
bonded with the image of.
00:37:09.22\00:37:11.05
It's very true, I was
talking to a Ph.D. in psychology
00:37:11.26\00:37:13.11
just today several
hours ago, he said the exact
00:37:13.32\00:37:16.29
same thing, you
develop this bond
00:37:16.51\00:37:18.44
with this virtual
image and so that reality
00:37:18.66\00:37:21.85
you don't even want
flesh and blood, right,
00:37:22.05\00:37:23.90
you're, you're in love
with by you see on the screen,
00:37:24.11\00:37:25.83
you're really
made yourself to this,
00:37:26.04\00:37:28.49
this satisfied with
reality, you rather have virtual
00:37:28.70\00:37:31.64
and you'll love the
screen more than you love,
00:37:31.84\00:37:33.52
even the person lying
in bed with you at night.
00:37:33.71\00:37:35.27
But unfortunately
nobody is deceived
00:37:35.48\00:37:39.43
enough to think that
that's real to the bottom
00:37:39.63\00:37:41.87
of their heart, precisely.
00:37:42.07\00:37:43.18
And so you have
that grief reaction
00:37:43.38\00:37:44.49
on top of everything,
so you, you really get fed
00:37:44.71\00:37:47.88
with the porn stuff,
but then you've to wake up
00:37:48.09\00:37:50.22
next to yourself, yeah.
And, and you are ashamed
00:37:50.44\00:37:52.40
and grieved and
all that kind of stuff.
00:37:52.63\00:37:54.11
And so, being able to
that is the saddest addiction
00:37:54.32\00:37:57.10
because it's an addiction
against our own bodies,
00:37:57.30\00:37:59.10
yes, yes, it's against oneself.
00:37:59.31\00:38:00.35
And so, being able to
says that that we wiring
00:38:00.55\00:38:02.79
and that we connecting
with the people around you
00:38:02.99\00:38:05.60
to your own body it takes time,
00:38:05.81\00:38:08.13
but when you got it oh!
I just, when you get it,
00:38:08.34\00:38:11.03
you get it, and
you get your life back.
00:38:11.24\00:38:12.73
Praise the Lord. And they
say, that the percentage of,
00:38:12.94\00:38:15.01
of what, how you
can love other people
00:38:15.23\00:38:16.68
we knew how porn
addictions or sexual addictions
00:38:16.89\00:38:19.49
is you can love
someone else maybe 3 to 5%,
00:38:19.69\00:38:22.64
so 95% you
really are disconnected
00:38:22.85\00:38:26.25
from the people around
you, and I'm talking about
00:38:26.46\00:38:28.72
spouses, children's,
friends because with the porn
00:38:28.92\00:38:31.98
addiction you start to
disconnect with what's real,
00:38:32.19\00:38:34.30
and you connect with
this event to this object.
00:38:34.50\00:38:36.74
And, and so to me
when somebody says out loud
00:38:36.96\00:38:39.64
like this guy I just want
to say, I love you and I do,
00:38:39.86\00:38:43.26
and, and I, and, and,
and fight for this one, yeah,
00:38:43.47\00:38:46.32
is this one is a sin
against your own body
00:38:46.52\00:38:47.49
and will take
everything from you eventually,
00:38:48.31\00:38:51.19
rob you from
everything, yes, yes,
00:38:51.39\00:38:53.02
you maybe able to
play it off socially,
00:38:53.23\00:38:54.39
but you are not connecting.
00:38:54.60\00:38:56.45
But what classifies
that though as an addiction
00:38:56.65\00:38:58.85
versus Brad just a, a
man's natural attraction
00:38:59.06\00:39:03.00
to woman, or woman's
natural attraction to a man.
00:39:03.20\00:39:05.71
And, and so you look at somebody
00:39:05.92\00:39:07.93
and they are attractive
or they whatever, yeah,
00:39:08.13\00:39:10.30
what, what really
separate, is there is a line
00:39:10.50\00:39:12.87
like is there
something that you cross
00:39:13.10\00:39:14.47
that all of a sudden
you say, look I'm, I'm, I'm.
00:39:14.67\00:39:17.70
I better pay
attention. Yeah, yeah.
00:39:17.90\00:39:18.87
Where it is, they
really? There it is actually,
00:39:19.48\00:39:21.36
and, and you can kind
of go down a checklist
00:39:21.56\00:39:23.15
some other
things include you know,
00:39:23.36\00:39:24.33
is it starting to
interfere with your ability
00:39:25.70\00:39:26.67
to perform your job, is
it starting to interfere
00:39:27.61\00:39:30.45
with your ability to
go have fun and you stop
00:39:30.66\00:39:33.10
playing
basketball on Tuesday nights.
00:39:33.31\00:39:35.03
Because I know
Tuesday night I can get
00:39:35.24\00:39:36.50
to the computer
when nobody is around.
00:39:36.70\00:39:38.07
yeah you know
its going to bug me
00:39:38.28\00:39:39.25
You know, is it
costing me money,
00:39:39.26\00:39:40.27
is it causing me
to stop spending time
00:39:40.48\00:39:42.59
with my family or my children.
00:39:42.80\00:39:44.12
And I looked at
my wife differently
00:39:44.32\00:39:45.39
and my husband differently,
am I saying you know,
00:39:45.60\00:39:47.45
I wish, I wish she
looked more like this image
00:39:47.65\00:39:50.94
or I wish she would
dress sexier you know,
00:39:51.14\00:39:53.34
and so all of the
sudden, yeah all of the sudden
00:39:53.54\00:39:55.63
this comes to your
mind more than before
00:39:55.83\00:39:58.72
or when somebody disrespects me
00:39:58.92\00:40:01.14
within how much time
am I online, do you know?
00:40:01.35\00:40:05.35
All of the sudden
I'm, I'm being disrespect
00:40:05.55\00:40:07.78
or I'm getting
angrier or whatever
00:40:07.97\00:40:09.20
and at what point
do I online and almost
00:40:09.40\00:40:12.25
like what point am I
using it like a drug.
00:40:12.45\00:40:14.04
Okay, so there are
signs that spouses can maybe
00:40:14.24\00:40:17.34
they see certain
changes, yes, in their husband
00:40:17.54\00:40:19.92
and their wife and they say.
00:40:20.13\00:40:21.54
Yes, it's a, it's
a, it's a red flag
00:40:21.74\00:40:23.80
and again speaking to the man,
00:40:24.00\00:40:25.55
we desire intimacy
just as a woman does.
00:40:25.75\00:40:30.16
Sometimes we don't
know that's something
00:40:30.37\00:40:32.65
that we want and
quite often for men
00:40:32.85\00:40:34.15
they're trying to get
that intimacy and again until
00:40:34.36\00:40:37.33
you're kind of
unshackle your heart sometimes
00:40:37.53\00:40:38.94
you don't know how do get it,
00:40:39.14\00:40:40.18
you don't know
how to express it,
00:40:40.39\00:40:41.36
and you may not
be able to feel and,
00:40:41.49\00:40:42.90
and again the instant
gratification that comes
00:40:43.10\00:40:44.94
with the
pornography and the ease of it
00:40:45.14\00:40:46.81
and all that
stuff can just pull you
00:40:47.01\00:40:49.68
so far away from that,
but what you really looking
00:40:49.88\00:40:51.75
for is that
interconnect where you're caring
00:40:51.96\00:40:54.06
for someone's heart next to you.
00:40:54.26\00:40:55.43
Evidently there is a
little bit of more this,
00:40:55.63\00:40:57.78
a lot more this in
the church and we, okay,
00:40:57.99\00:41:00.12
you think here and
here is another question,
00:41:00.33\00:41:01.30
this person didn't sign
but it's that same question.
00:41:01.49\00:41:02.94
What do you do with the
sex, with sex addiction?
00:41:03.15\00:41:04.12
So, it's there. You know,
it's there whether we talk
00:41:05.53\00:41:07.46
about or not it is
there. And let me just say
00:41:07.65\00:41:09.37
you what's really
interesting about even
00:41:09.57\00:41:10.83
Bernie Anderson's
Ministry or you can call Lawson
00:41:11.03\00:41:13.59
and start working on
these kind of issues is that,
00:41:13.80\00:41:17.20
is that you have
to do stops like I,
00:41:17.39\00:41:19.82
you know I wanted to
tell somebody I want to get
00:41:20.02\00:41:21.64
a filter on my
computer, I wanted there is a,
00:41:21.81\00:41:24.27
there is a filter that
you can get on your computer
00:41:24.47\00:41:25.93
that soon as you
go online anything
00:41:26.14\00:41:27.59
unquestionable
side, it goes out emails
00:41:27.78\00:41:30.81
go out to five different people
00:41:31.02\00:41:32.00
and you chose the five people,
00:41:32.20\00:41:33.81
but those five will
then email you and say,
00:41:34.02\00:41:36.49
hey what's up buddy?
You know, and so it's like
00:41:36.68\00:41:38.89
you know, it's like
that if you really want
00:41:39.09\00:41:41.17
to get well there
are so many ways to do it
00:41:41.38\00:41:43.88
and it's tough, yeah, and
you can't be ashamed by it.
00:41:44.08\00:41:46.68
It is like you
know, when Jesus said,
00:41:46.90\00:41:48.58
I came and died for
you, I came and died for you
00:41:48.78\00:41:50.88
because these issues
are huge, the devil has us,
00:41:51.07\00:41:53.57
has us in
bondage and so you know,
00:41:53.77\00:41:58.13
God says you know,
I'm not coming down
00:41:58.33\00:41:59.69
because you kind of
need me, you are so loss,
00:41:59.90\00:42:02.20
so you are not
connecting with anybody anymore,
00:42:02.40\00:42:04.20
you're so loss that
that you're, you're,
00:42:04.40\00:42:06.41
you're even
saying that you know what
00:42:06.61\00:42:08.06
I, I, I need help and
with these other things I can,
00:42:08.25\00:42:12.29
I can kind of deal with
that, but this one has me.
00:42:12.48\00:42:15.28
And so and, and I, and
the only reason I can say
00:42:15.46\00:42:18.47
that is I can
sympathize with people
00:42:18.65\00:42:20.25
that have those
kind of deeper addictions
00:42:20.44\00:42:22.83
because you know
from where I came from
00:42:23.04\00:42:24.89
those were all
on the table for me
00:42:25.10\00:42:26.53
and when God sets us
free, we're free indeed,
00:42:26.74\00:42:29.77
Sia Louis said,
here was sort of afraid,
00:42:29.97\00:42:32.39
Sia Louis is
Christian writer and well known
00:42:32.59\00:42:34.60
and he said, he
just, it kills him to think
00:42:34.79\00:42:35.76
I have to give
this addiction up.
00:42:38.01\00:42:39.25
You know because you
know, you get your need
00:42:39.46\00:42:41.08
some at this way,
you think it works
00:42:41.27\00:42:42.67
and all that kind of
stuff and he realizes,
00:42:42.87\00:42:44.17
okay I'm gonna give it
up and I know that means
00:42:44.37\00:42:46.90
I never gonna have fun anymore,
00:42:47.11\00:42:48.38
I'm never gonna
be satisfied anymore,
00:42:48.59\00:42:50.24
I'm never gonna have any
kind of sexual stuff anymore,
00:42:50.44\00:42:52.83
but I love God so here and
He finally gives it to God,
00:42:53.02\00:42:56.62
God untwisted, He cleans it up
00:42:56.82\00:42:58.80
and gives them a sexuality back.
00:42:58.99\00:43:00.31
And he actually
has this intimacy
00:43:00.51\00:43:02.73
which he had been
searching for the whole time
00:43:02.93\00:43:03.90
and he said, I was I don't know.
00:43:04.93\00:43:06.20
The God didn't want to
steal anything from me,
00:43:06.40\00:43:08.61
yeah He wanted to give
me something that was real.
00:43:08.80\00:43:10.92
Wow! And not so
the devil lies to us
00:43:11.13\00:43:12.89
is that the devil
tangled this in front of us
00:43:13.09\00:43:15.25
and says it's real,
it's never been real. Yeah.
00:43:15.45\00:43:17.59
You have an online
addiction with an image,
00:43:17.79\00:43:20.20
may not even be the
same girl you maybe talking
00:43:20.41\00:43:22.54
to a 300 pound woman
behind that screen and,
00:43:22.75\00:43:25.41
and you don't even
know that this image
00:43:25.61\00:43:26.80
is not even her.
Yeah, yeah. And the devil,
00:43:27.01\00:43:28.77
and God says I'm
gonna give you what's real
00:43:28.97\00:43:30.89
and you will be satisfied, Brad
00:43:31.09\00:43:33.65
and I love each
other and as a man and wife
00:43:33.85\00:43:35.88
we're totally
satisfied with each other.
00:43:36.09\00:43:37.98
And that's only
because we've surrendered
00:43:38.19\00:43:40.62
all the addictive
stuff. So if you're out there
00:43:40.82\00:43:43.30
and you're listening
to my voices the lies
00:43:43.50\00:43:45.04
will keep you in
bondage, God says I actually
00:43:45.25\00:43:47.82
want to give you your
life back. Amen, okay.
00:43:48.03\00:43:49.63
What about somebody
says that they have given up
00:43:49.84\00:43:52.68
alcohol, drugs, but
they cannot give up smoking?
00:43:52.88\00:43:57.28
It's, why smoking,
and I've heard that before
00:43:57.50\00:44:01.64
from other people,
oh yeah, smoking seems
00:44:01.85\00:44:03.22
to be tougher to give up
00:44:03.42\00:44:04.39
than some of these other thing.
00:44:04.44\00:44:06.57
It was tough from even heroine.
00:44:06.77\00:44:07.93
Really? Heroine
was easier and people
00:44:08.14\00:44:10.15
say that all the
time, but I want to just say
00:44:10.36\00:44:11.86
personally it was
tougher, and the first thing
00:44:12.07\00:44:14.85
I had to do in order to
it took me five or six years
00:44:15.06\00:44:18.05
after my Baptism to
finally say you know,
00:44:18.26\00:44:22.11
the God you know, finally
please take this from me,
00:44:22.32\00:44:24.40
but I had to first
realize that that you know,
00:44:24.61\00:44:29.13
Danny see I had to
realize that God loved me.
00:44:29.33\00:44:31.88
You know I have a
cigarette hanging out of my face
00:44:32.09\00:44:34.44
and he died for me,
do you know what I mean?
00:44:34.64\00:44:36.72
Yeah. And he didn't
come down to cigarettes,
00:44:36.92\00:44:38.40
he doesn't like
the fact that my lungs
00:44:38.60\00:44:39.96
are being thrashed,
but he said first of all
00:44:40.16\00:44:41.78
you have to know that my
love is bigger than your,
00:44:41.99\00:44:43.94
my blood is bigger
than your cigarettes,
00:44:44.15\00:44:46.40
and it's almost like I
had to so get that in my head
00:44:46.62\00:44:50.13
that it wasn't that you
know, God's gonna love me
00:44:50.33\00:44:53.34
if I stop smoking, God's
gonna love me if I quit this.
00:44:53.54\00:44:56.77
God's gonna love
me what God says,
00:44:56.98\00:44:58.36
no let's get one thing
established, I love you.
00:44:58.55\00:45:01.26
Alright!
Everything else will work on,
00:45:01.27\00:45:02.98
and I think that you
know get that in your
00:45:03.16\00:45:05.27
mind first, that
everybody else may
00:45:05.28\00:45:07.13
judge you by your
cigarettes, but God is
00:45:07.14\00:45:09.52
saying you are my
son and I love you. Amen.
00:45:09.53\00:45:11.71
And then start doing
the things that you need to
00:45:11.72\00:45:14.04
do in order to
stop smoking and that is
00:45:14.05\00:45:16.68
looking at the
reality of what smoking does,
00:45:17.99\00:45:19.99
educate yourself, take
a lung and put it up on
00:45:20.00\00:45:23.55
the table, you know what I mean?
00:45:23.56\00:45:24.95
Do something that
this causes lung cancer,
00:45:25.33\00:45:27.70
this is gonna cause
you to be on oxygen,
00:45:27.71\00:45:29.85
this stinks. You know
do stuff that actually
00:45:30.31\00:45:33.56
shows you the
damage and this causes your
00:45:33.57\00:45:36.49
children to have a
respiratory diseases,
00:45:36.50\00:45:39.30
these causes you
know and so start
00:45:39.31\00:45:41.18
educating yourself.
Bring back smoking Sam.
00:45:41.19\00:45:44.57
Oh, you remember that
one. Smoking Sam is to
00:45:44.58\00:45:46.96
have this manic
that that you can see how
00:45:46.97\00:45:49.28
much damage that it
did, yeah the time he
00:45:49.29\00:45:51.56
make it with that.
Now, this one says,
00:45:51.57\00:45:53.79
I think this is a
great question. It says how
00:45:53.80\00:45:55.86
did Cheri learn to
keep her dignity when
00:45:55.87\00:45:58.48
recovering from you
know, your addictions
00:45:58.49\00:46:01.01
and all this, the
stuff that you had your life?
00:46:01.02\00:46:02.97
How did you? Who
says I did? Yeah,
00:46:02.98\00:46:05.39
because I'll be
lying, yeah, you know I would
00:46:06.85\00:46:10.11
say you know it's
only God that even teaches
00:46:10.12\00:46:12.75
you what that word
means. Do you know what I mean?
00:46:12.76\00:46:14.91
As I didn't even
know what that word man,
00:46:14.92\00:46:16.44
you know, I manipulated
and I get defensive and
00:46:16.83\00:46:22.08
I was hypersensitive
and people hurt my
00:46:22.09\00:46:24.66
feeling, and so I
don't think I kept anything.
00:46:24.67\00:46:26.96
It was only by the
grace of God that I was able
00:46:27.33\00:46:29.98
to not to grab
somebody right by the throat.
00:46:29.99\00:46:31.81
Do you know what I
mean? And I think that over
00:46:31.96\00:46:33.92
the years what God has
done is taken that heart
00:46:33.93\00:46:36.57
of stone and that
heart was so damaging,
00:46:36.58\00:46:38.75
give me a heart of
flesh. And now I truly can say
00:46:38.76\00:46:41.69
that even when
somebody has offended
00:46:41.70\00:46:43.21
me most of the time I
love them and I feel bad
00:46:43.22\00:46:46.33
that they can speak
to someone like that.
00:46:46.34\00:46:48.01
So I don't even take
the offense anymore in the
00:46:48.25\00:46:50.02
same way, but that's
what God does for us?
00:46:50.05\00:46:52.34
The Lord showed me
years ago that being
00:46:52.35\00:46:54.10
offended is a choice.
Exactly! So no one can
00:46:54.11\00:46:58.02
offend you if you
don't allow them to,
00:46:58.03\00:47:00.04
if you don't allow them
to. So, it's like why do we
00:47:00.05\00:47:01.41
spend so much time
to saying, oh well he
00:47:01.42\00:47:03.19
offended or this
person offended me,
00:47:03.20\00:47:04.83
but they can't offend
you unless you chose to
00:47:05.28\00:47:07.92
be offended. I was
talking to somebody
00:47:07.93\00:47:09.38
and he came up to
me and he said, do you
00:47:09.39\00:47:10.68
know what, I listen to
your speak, and the way
00:47:10.69\00:47:14.21
he was saying that I
thought I'm in trouble,
00:47:14.22\00:47:15.64
and I said listen to
your speak and I want you to
00:47:15.65\00:47:18.01
know that I felt
like walking up to you and
00:47:18.02\00:47:20.33
taking a wash cloth
and wiping that makeup
00:47:20.34\00:47:22.32
right off your face. And
I said really, and I said
00:47:22.38\00:47:25.75
do you know I want
you to know something and
00:47:25.76\00:47:27.30
he said what? And I
said for the first 10
00:47:27.31\00:47:30.09
years of my
marriage, my husband didn't see
00:47:30.10\00:47:32.82
me without makeup
on, I didn't go to the
00:47:32.83\00:47:34.47
mailbox without
makeup 'cause I'm so
00:47:34.48\00:47:36.62
insecure about who I
am, I don't feel good
00:47:36.63\00:47:38.83
enough about
anything and if you would have
00:47:38.84\00:47:40.82
done that, you would
have really traumatized me.
00:47:40.83\00:47:42.58
And I'm sorry to
offend you, but God is working
00:47:42.83\00:47:44.97
on that with me.
And all of a sudden his
00:47:44.98\00:47:47.21
whole mood change,
but I just wanted to say,
00:47:47.22\00:47:49.61
were you in church,
I was in the church.
00:47:49.62\00:47:51.57
Boy! But you know what I mean?
00:47:51.98\00:47:54.76
Is that I wanted to
say you don't, you don't
00:47:54.77\00:47:56.76
even know, oh boy,
my husband has not seen
00:47:56.77\00:47:58.75
me because I'm so
insecure and I'm so,
00:47:58.76\00:48:00.86
I feel worthless and
I have all of that stuff
00:48:01.36\00:48:03.48
and God Himself is
trying to tell me baby
00:48:03.49\00:48:06.30
you don't need that
I love you, but let him
00:48:06.31\00:48:09.20
do it 'cause you
so gentle with us,
00:48:09.21\00:48:11.09
but we want to it for
each other and we're not
00:48:11.86\00:48:15.54
as gentle as God. We
short story aside, yeah,
00:48:15.55\00:48:19.46
Angie Hoffman who
sing here years ago and
00:48:19.82\00:48:21.77
we were in California
quite a few of us that
00:48:22.25\00:48:23.85
were singing and a lot
of people and this little
00:48:23.86\00:48:26.26
lady came up and
grabbed her hair and
00:48:26.27\00:48:28.97
pulled her really
hard and she said, ouch!
00:48:28.98\00:48:32.21
What are you doing?
She said, oh! I thought
00:48:32.22\00:48:33.79
that was a wig. No!
And so she was gonna
00:48:33.80\00:48:36.78
pull it off in the
church, but she said my friend
00:48:36.79\00:48:38.98
and I said it's a wig
and she said it isn't,
00:48:38.99\00:48:41.78
so instead of asking
her, she was gonna now you
00:48:42.17\00:48:44.54
see what in the
world is going through
00:48:44.55\00:48:46.18
somebody's mind.
We have to behave
00:48:46.19\00:48:47.99
in the building,
yeah. Yeah, we do, yeah,
00:48:48.00\00:48:49.98
we do, absolutely.
Bit of praise you for you.
00:48:49.99\00:48:52.17
This is from
Sherry, Cheri, yeah, and she
00:48:52.86\00:48:55.31
says, I've been a
smoker for 40 years and due to
00:48:55.32\00:48:58.57
you and 3ABN I've
smoked three for five
00:48:58.58\00:49:01.92
days, you want to be
remembered in prayer,
00:49:01.93\00:49:03.82
okay. God bless,
because she wants to
00:49:03.83\00:49:05.55
have victory and
she said please remember
00:49:05.99\00:49:07.87
her in prayer, Sherry
Cheri. We are going to
00:49:07.88\00:49:09.09
pray, yeah, and
you know we started the
00:49:09.10\00:49:11.75
program Danny that
you believed in us and
00:49:11.76\00:49:16.53
started the
program Celebrating Life in
00:49:16.54\00:49:18.36
Recovery, and I can't
even tell you how many
00:49:18.37\00:49:21.05
people have gone
victory, just because for
00:49:21.06\00:49:22.92
somebody saying out of
love that God is bigger
00:49:23.50\00:49:26.07
than this stuff.
Alright, and He loves us.
00:49:26.08\00:49:28.53
yeah. Alright!
You know just a quick
00:49:28.77\00:49:31.43
comment, if someone
who is really a recent
00:49:31.44\00:49:33.21
person to the
Adventist Church and I'm gotten
00:49:33.22\00:49:35.54
involved in you know,
these endurance things
00:49:35.55\00:49:37.25
right in 100 miles on
your bicycle in one shot
00:49:37.26\00:49:39.45
around Lake Tahoe,
the Adventists have a
00:49:39.46\00:49:43.24
wonderful health
message, give such a
00:49:43.25\00:49:45.11
health message, and
as you start dealing,
00:49:45.12\00:49:46.92
as you start dealing
with these addictions
00:49:47.22\00:49:48.90
and the different things,
regardless of what it is,
00:49:48.91\00:49:51.43
one of the things
I've learned in my own walk
00:49:51.44\00:49:53.30
is that you got to
kind of clear the channels a
00:49:53.83\00:49:55.59
little bit for God
to talk to you better,
00:49:55.60\00:49:57.23
how communion? God talks to her,
00:49:57.58\00:49:59.20
how come He is
not talking to me.
00:49:59.21\00:50:00.36
Okay I don't hear
him. And this you know,
00:50:00.37\00:50:02.90
with as you're
dealing with this, if you can
00:50:03.05\00:50:05.22
think about well
what am I eating and maybe
00:50:05.23\00:50:06.95
I just change one
thing at a time, drink water,
00:50:06.96\00:50:09.61
he can start, the Holy
Spirit can start to speak
00:50:09.62\00:50:11.84
to you more, well
you'll hear him better.
00:50:11.85\00:50:14.09
Let me rephrase
that because you start
00:50:14.10\00:50:16.06
clogging me in
tennis and somebody is like
00:50:16.07\00:50:18.45
oh, I can see that and
so as you're dealing with
00:50:18.46\00:50:20.96
all of these
different addictions and I think
00:50:20.97\00:50:22.38
includes the porn
issue, yes, you know, that you
00:50:22.94\00:50:25.93
it allows the Holy
Spirit to speak to you and
00:50:25.94\00:50:28.62
you'll start to
understand things
00:50:28.63\00:50:30.12
differently and start
to gain your power and
00:50:30.13\00:50:32.13
strength because
God starts to working.
00:50:32.14\00:50:33.84
Okay, yeah, why
don't we there is several
00:50:33.85\00:50:35.47
people that have
prayer request, absolutely,
00:50:35.48\00:50:37.63
because they're
suffering through these things
00:50:37.64\00:50:39.48
and we want you to
Cheri to say prayer,
00:50:39.49\00:50:42.12
so we can join
hands and if you are with
00:50:42.13\00:50:43.68
somebody at home if
not you can reach out to
00:50:43.69\00:50:45.90
our Heavenly
Father, and reach out to Him
00:50:45.91\00:50:48.05
because we know that
God hears and answers
00:50:48.06\00:50:50.04
these prayers so, absolutely.
00:50:50.05\00:50:51.55
Dear Father in
Jesus name I know that you
00:50:51.69\00:50:53.59
know every single
person that's asking for
00:50:53.60\00:50:55.71
these request,
every single person that's
00:50:55.72\00:50:57.93
viewing this
program I know that you are
00:50:58.39\00:50:59.88
non-absence with
little kids, little boys and
00:50:59.89\00:51:03.67
little girls, and I
don't care what age we are,
00:51:03.68\00:51:05.62
you know us. You
know our addictions,
00:51:05.63\00:51:07.82
you know what kids
gets to stuck, you know
00:51:07.83\00:51:09.70
what it's hurt us,
you know what we struggle
00:51:09.71\00:51:12.03
with as far as
bitterness and unforgiveness and
00:51:12.04\00:51:14.28
anger and
insecurity and how people have
00:51:14.70\00:51:17.74
offended us and
how we've taken those
00:51:17.75\00:51:19.70
offences and then the
devil takes all of that
00:51:19.71\00:51:21.95
and continues to lie,
I pray Father to break
00:51:21.96\00:51:25.34
those lives from
us. Let us know that you
00:51:25.35\00:51:27.86
were the God that
created the whole world
00:51:27.87\00:51:29.95
and your thoughts towards us are
00:51:29.96\00:51:32.12
incredibly good.
Your thoughts towards
00:51:32.13\00:51:34.43
us are of thoughts
of love of and of health
00:51:34.44\00:51:36.59
and of yeah, that you
delight in the fact that
00:51:36.60\00:51:39.82
we get it even a
little, but you delight in us
00:51:39.83\00:51:42.13
and I pray Father
delight in the people
00:51:42.14\00:51:43.85
that are asking
for prayer right now.
00:51:43.86\00:51:45.62
Let them know
through your Holy Spirit that
00:51:46.02\00:51:47.72
nothing that they're
walking with is bigger
00:51:47.73\00:51:49.60
than what you are
and then you are not
00:51:49.61\00:51:51.84
ashamed of them, but
your love for them is
00:51:51.85\00:51:53.90
just, it's just
beyond what they can imagine,
00:51:53.91\00:51:56.59
that you will walk with
them however they need it.
00:51:57.05\00:51:59.29
You will sit with
them, you sing over them as
00:51:59.30\00:52:01.46
they sleep, as it
says in Zephaniah.
00:52:01.47\00:52:03.36
And that you are God
and I just pray Father
00:52:03.77\00:52:06.47
for healing of
whatever physical, mental,
00:52:06.48\00:52:09.53
emotional, spiritual
healing and I just ask
00:52:09.54\00:52:13.31
you Father I leave
that all in your hands and
00:52:13.32\00:52:16.56
the person that
with the porn addictions,
00:52:16.89\00:52:18.82
what I love about you
is you're not ashamed of
00:52:19.50\00:52:21.70
them even. You are sad
that they're in bondage,
00:52:21.71\00:52:24.71
that it hurts you
that they've pulled away
00:52:24.72\00:52:27.16
from what's real, and I
just pray Father to even
00:52:27.17\00:52:29.90
free them up. I pray
for the perpetuator that's
00:52:29.91\00:52:32.57
watching, the child
molester, the people
00:52:32.58\00:52:35.69
that have done
things of the world says,
00:52:35.70\00:52:37.85
you know what that
you don't even deserve to
00:52:37.86\00:52:39.52
live on the same street as me,
00:52:39.53\00:52:41.36
God is saying come
home. Wow! Come home.
00:52:41.83\00:52:44.54
Amen! I miss
you! Amen! And I pray
00:52:44.92\00:52:46.66
Father let them know
that you miss them and
00:52:46.67\00:52:49.45
I pray Father let us
all return and let the devil
00:52:49.46\00:52:51.98
just look like He is,
he is a defeated fellow,
00:52:51.99\00:52:55.11
he has no power
anymore, the blood of
00:52:55.30\00:52:57.25
Christ has really
put him in his place,
00:52:57.26\00:53:00.15
and the only power
he has is when we start
00:53:00.43\00:53:02.36
believe in life and let
us see the truth give us
00:53:02.37\00:53:04.62
discernment, give us
wisdom and give us the
00:53:04.69\00:53:07.09
ability to seek after
the heart of God and we ask
00:53:07.10\00:53:10.05
all this in Jesus
name, amen. Amen! Amen!
00:53:10.06\00:53:13.58
Well thank you. The
power of prayer is just
00:53:13.59\00:53:16.12
amazing, thank you,
and I don't know how people
00:53:16.13\00:53:18.55
can live and exist in
today's world without knowing
00:53:18.56\00:53:22.80
that we have a
Heavenly Father that
00:53:22.81\00:53:24.31
we can go to who
hears and answers prayers,
00:53:24.32\00:53:27.47
I mean it's
amazing. We only have about
00:53:27.48\00:53:29.20
two or three minutes
left, you got anymore or,
00:53:29.21\00:53:31.08
well I think we should
put the address one more time.
00:53:31.09\00:53:33.10
Okay. We've got
bunch of people who want to
00:53:33.11\00:53:34.35
contact you off air
because they have some things
00:53:34.36\00:53:36.48
that wanna, amen, and
you have a web page too now,
00:53:36.49\00:53:38.79
yes, the truestep.org, yeah,
it's up there, truestep.org,
00:53:38.80\00:53:41.05
it will appear okay,
well let's go to the address.
00:53:41.06\00:53:43.14
If you would like to contact
Cheri Peters or if you would
00:53:47.07\00:53:49.45
like to support her
ministry, then you can write to
00:53:49.46\00:53:52.10
True Step Ministries, PO
Box 163, Kuna, Idaho, 83634.
00:53:52.11\00:53:58.74
That's True Step
Ministries, PO Box 163,
00:53:58.75\00:54:02.94
Kuna, Idaho,
83634. You can call her at
00:54:02.95\00:54:06.95
(208) 562-8477,
that's (208) 562-8477,
00:54:06.96\00:54:13.81
or you can visit her
website for testimonies,
00:54:13.82\00:54:16.83
live event information,
and more at truestep.org.
00:54:16.84\00:54:21.18
It's all one word, truestep.org.
00:54:21.19\00:54:25.69
Contact her today,
she love to hear from you.
00:54:25.70\00:54:29.07
Okay, we have just a
couple of minutes left
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and you guys have anything
to tell us, what's happening?
00:54:32.86\00:54:35.54
Where you're gonna be
in the next few weeks?
00:54:35.55\00:54:36.96
Okay we're
finishing up filming the
00:54:36.97\00:54:38.46
Seven Seasons of Celebrating
Life in Recovery here.
00:54:38.47\00:54:40.83
So we'll be here
for another week,
00:54:40.84\00:54:42.01
then we're on our away
to Australia for six weeks
00:54:42.02\00:54:45.95
and we're seeing we're
gonna be in, I think in Perth
00:54:45.96\00:54:50.24
and we'll be around that area.
00:54:50.25\00:54:51.79
I love the people down
under we've a great time,
00:54:51.80\00:54:54.88
wonderful folks, and
then we're coming back
00:54:54.89\00:54:56.87
and on our way then to
New Zealand and then Australia
00:54:56.88\00:54:59.79
again and throughout the states,
00:54:59.80\00:55:01.34
we're doing
Prison Ministry Sunday.
00:55:01.35\00:55:03.00
And so did you
actually when you are there,
00:55:03.01\00:55:05.11
do you go out and try
to find kangaroos like?
00:55:05.12\00:55:07.38
I learned to surf. Oh!
You learned to surf. Yeah.
00:55:07.39\00:55:09.85
But did you go look out
kangaroos? Yes, we, but we,
00:55:09.86\00:55:12.47
we did. Didn't we? He tried
to get me beat up by a kangaroo.
00:55:12.48\00:55:14.93
Well, well, you see C.A. goes
stands next to the kangaroos,
00:55:14.94\00:55:18.33
I said they don't
look that harmful,
00:55:18.34\00:55:19.84
somebody said be careful
and I said they don't look
00:55:19.85\00:55:21.75
that tough, you look
like you are tough for C.A.,
00:55:21.76\00:55:23.83
don't be afraid,
haven't just going up, right?
00:55:23.84\00:55:25.62
Yeah, I will wait
right here, you go.
00:55:25.63\00:55:27.65
He is a big pastor
and it was you know,
00:55:27.66\00:55:29.89
they were just out while
and they said, that's fun,
00:55:29.90\00:55:32.24
look at these, I thought
they look friendly, go see C.A.
00:55:32.25\00:55:34.32
Yeah, he is like,
I'm not going to do that.
00:55:35.86\00:55:37.79
I said, well I take a
picture of you and he is like
00:55:38.50\00:55:40.79
forget it, some of them
are big muscular. I didn't
00:55:40.80\00:55:42.85
expect these kangaroos to
be so big and strong looking.
00:55:42.86\00:55:46.23
I mean they really were.
I said well that's great,
00:55:46.24\00:55:48.44
that's funny, in
Australia. Yeah, it's great.
00:55:48.45\00:55:50.39
Wonderful people and
great supporters down there
00:55:50.40\00:55:52.59
too so, absolutely, so you
head off to a very long trip,
00:55:52.60\00:55:55.23
long trip, I don't
envy that I'll tell you
00:55:55.24\00:55:57.66
that's a long trip, but once
you get there it's worth it.
00:55:57.67\00:56:00.69
Alright, any closing thoughts;
00:56:00.70\00:56:02.03
Brad anything from you,
we've got about 30 seconds.
00:56:02.04\00:56:04.21
I just want to say, just
one quick thing, two things
00:56:04.22\00:56:06.76
for the people who help us.
00:56:06.77\00:56:07.74
Our website is
brand new as of today,
00:56:07.75\00:56:09.46
oh great! And God's
grace it got turned on about
00:56:09.47\00:56:11.61
3 O' clock this afternoon,
wonderful, that is good.
00:56:11.62\00:56:13.87
There was lot of
people working on that,
00:56:13.88\00:56:15.19
but I just want to say
again kind of speaking to them
00:56:15.20\00:56:17.57
and I'm stand up
covering and prayer,
00:56:17.58\00:56:19.47
you mentioned prayer,
I'm praying for my family
00:56:19.48\00:56:21.19
everyday and God is blessing
us, amen, unbelievable, amen.
00:56:21.20\00:56:24.83
And it's just a win
situation, you can, okay.
00:56:24.84\00:56:27.86
Thank you so much
and God bless and your
00:56:27.87\00:56:29.70
friendship has meant, thank
you, world to me personally
00:56:29.71\00:56:32.07
and you've been a great
help to me also over the years,
00:56:32.08\00:56:34.27
thank you for what
you do and both of you
00:56:34.28\00:56:36.18
for the cause of God
and for you Pastor Murray,
00:56:36.19\00:56:38.67
thank you, what a
blessing that you're to me and
00:56:38.68\00:56:40.51
3ABN and the people
around the world and, amen,
00:56:40.52\00:56:43.00
glad your on God side too.
00:56:43.01\00:56:44.65
And we're glad that
you are too, if you're not
00:56:44.66\00:56:46.22
tonight's type to give
your life to the Lord, amen,
00:56:46.23\00:56:48.65
Jesus Christ, He is
simply waiting there.
00:56:48.66\00:56:50.60
All you have to do is
submit; commit your life to Him
00:56:50.61\00:56:52.87
and then go and tell
what He's done for you.
00:56:52.88\00:56:55.42
Well our time is all
gone for this evening
00:56:55.71\00:56:57.50
until we see you next time,
may the Lord richly bless you
00:56:57.51\00:57:00.53
abundantly more than
you could ever ask or thank.
00:57:00.54\00:57:03.93