Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), John Lomacang (Host), Doug Batchelor
Series Code: TLB
Program Code: TLB011506
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00:10 Hello, welcome back to 3ABN Today Live.
00:12 Thank you for joining us, and if you just been 00:15 somewhere maybe just get in a house, 00:16 you turned on another channel thank you for 00:19 watching 3ABN, and I am here with Pastor 00:21 John Lomacang, Pastor Doug Batchelor, 00:23 Pastor of the Sacramento Central Church in 00:26 California, and President Director of Amazing Facts 00:31 Ministries also located in Sacramento, 00:35 and Doug, thank you for being here and 00:36 thank you for what you've done. 00:37 We've been doing programs together. 00:39 Once our first satellite seminar we called 1997, 00:44 I think first we did in, I stayed in John's house. 00:47 Did we? That's right because I was in there. 00:49 Yeah. Yeah. Because that's Boss auditorium 00:51 at Mrs. Ford's, yeah, we were downstairs at 00:52 Mrs. Ford's house. Yeah okay. Kids were 00:55 about inch tall or something. 00:59 Yeah and it's called the Boss auditorium. 01:02 Larry and Harry, Boss donated some money, 01:04 we built a building and now it's a storage and 01:08 for, warehouse, basically call center 01:11 storing a lot of stuff back there and we've 01:13 expanded and had to use a lot of that, 01:16 but we have other studios now thankfully, 01:18 which you came here, we did those with great 01:21 success and my ad and many, many churches 01:24 around the world were watching the country 01:26 and then later we went into satellite totally 01:29 around the world and we have been pro, 01:31 you know, seminars like this with you for 01:33 many, many years live ones and you are 01:35 talking about maybe us doing a new one 01:37 now this coming year reclaiming the missing 01:40 members and somewhere along that line we got to 01:43 get into this practicality of Prophecies and put it 01:48 in a day-to-day, how do we deal with what we 01:51 were seeing, like events like what's happening in 01:53 Middle East right now? How do I ideal with 01:55 that? How do I sort all of this out of my mind? 01:57 What's happening in our own countries and 02:00 in the world and religion and politics and 02:03 how to, you know it's discouraging if you 02:05 don't know the answers. That's right. 02:07 Well Jesus gave one general answer that 02:09 seems to work right now, it says in the Luke, 02:12 I think it's 21 that will be distress of nations, 02:15 with perplexity and seeing the ways 02:18 worrying and you know there is a proliferation 02:21 of natural disasters and at the time of this 02:24 broadcast there was just a recent one in 02:26 New Zealand. Yes. And I got a lot of my 02:29 first sent pictures from David Asscherick. 02:30 Yeah, right. He sent us some, we'll show 02:32 tomorrow here. Yeah, and somebody asking 02:35 these questions or calling in and David 02:37 made it through he and his family and I haven't 02:39 heard in the last couple of weeks where they are? 02:41 How things are going but they made it 02:43 through that earthquake and happy and speaking 02:46 into diverse places because I was there last 02:49 year so maybe longer than that in the same 02:51 town, same area and it's like wow, you know, 02:54 yeah that's amazing. Yeah, it is. You think at 02:56 any given moment, earthquakes I think are 02:59 kind of like those signs of the Second Coming 03:02 that you can't predict, but you have to be ready. 03:05 Your house spiritually has to be earthquake 03:07 proof, because at any given moment there 03:10 could be a shaking of immense proportion 03:13 and speaking of that we are living in the last 03:15 days when there is a shaking so there is a 03:17 spiritual parallel there. There is a spiritual 03:19 earthquake happening in our world too, 03:21 and unless our homes are earthquakes proof, 03:23 they will come around, something is gonna 03:24 come down, look on the rock. Yeah, okay. 03:26 we're gonna do some more music? Yes. 03:29 Melody is going to be singing another song for 03:31 us entitled "I Tremble" and I know you enjoy 03:34 her music so sit back as she blesses us. 03:58 Lord it's with a simple reverence 04:03 That I come into your presence 04:08 Whispering the name that calms all fear 04:16 And I'm filled with such emotion 04:21 At Your mercy and devotion 04:25 To think that You would come and meet me here 04:34 Lord I tremble. At the very thought of 04:41 Calvary Where You chose me over life 04:47 As you suffered willingly Lord I tremble. 04:56 At the way I'm undeserving of 05:00 The love You came to give 05:04 And Your blood that makes me worthy Lord I tremble. 05:17 Let me not forget this temple 05:20 Is transformed into a throne room 05:25 Through Your name my soul is ushered in 05:32 So let me come to You in wonder 05:37 Let my heart still pound like thunder 05:41 At the way Your grace has found 05:44 me once again Lord I tremble 05:54 At the very thought of Calvary 05:57 Where You chose me over life 06:02 As you suffered willingly Lord I tremble 06:10 At the way I'm undeserving of 06:14 The love You came to give 06:18 And Your blood that makes me worthy 06:22 Lord I tremble at the way Your love has saved me 06:28 And Your precious grace forgave me 06:33 Let me never take for granted 06:37 who You are Lord I tremble. 06:46 At the very thought of Calvary 06:50 Where You chose me over life 06:54 As you suffered willingly Lord I tremble. 07:02 At the way I'm undeserving of 07:07 The love You came to give 07:11 And Your blood that makes me worthy 07:15 Lord I tremble. 07:27 Lord I tremble. 07:42 Thank you so much Melody, amen 07:43 isn't that wonderful? Yeah, it is, I appreciate 07:45 her so much, and the day she is born and now 07:50 her youngest daughter, Baby Faith looks so 07:53 much like Doug is just like raise in Melody 07:56 again I go there and it's just like seeing her all 07:58 over again, you know, I just love it, and. 08:01 Yeah, Melody is a champion. 08:02 I mean she really has accomplished 08:05 something that many people pray about but 08:08 Melody just put in a mind I think and prayed 08:10 about it and the Lord has blessed her in a 08:11 tremendous way and the music that you just 08:14 heard, if you got a melodyfirestone.com 08:17 or melodyshelton.com, you can see her 08:21 products there and also she has a book. 08:23 Yeah she wrote a little book, so many people 08:25 on Facebook and I guess few thousands 08:27 I don't remember, but I think something like 08:29 that was saying how did you lose 110 pounds. 08:32 Wow! So she said, well, rather than just try to 08:35 answer every one of these, so she put 08:37 together a little book with recipes and all that 08:39 so to help people so they could do the same thing. 08:43 So yeah I am really proud of her not only 08:45 that but she is a wonderful mother as 08:47 you now John. Oh, yeah. She is totally 08:48 dedicated to those children and Greg it's 08:51 amazing to see those kids and how much 08:54 they love her and her love for those children 08:57 and we need that children need to be 08:58 raised with that type of love in the world today 09:02 as you know that's not, it's almost not what we 09:04 called not normal anymore, but it's great 09:07 so thank you Melody for all you do for the 09:08 cause of God and I'm proud of you honey and 09:11 I love you very much. You know one of the 09:12 greatest compliments I've received her, 09:14 I remember once when we're singing together 09:17 and she said, you know I just want to say 09:18 publicly I love my Pastor, yes she does, and I was, 09:21 I didn't even know how to react to that, 09:22 but it was just people don't often say those 09:25 things, yeah, but Melody is such a 09:28 genuine person one who really loves the Lord 09:31 and you see in everything she does 09:33 and the other thing I must say to maintain 09:35 your sanity when you have so many children 09:39 that's amazing. Yeah, I don't know that, 09:41 but that's a gift. But it has been 09:42 great and helped significant much 09:43 through with Doug. Oh, yeah, he is great, 09:45 Yeah, praise the Lord for that. 09:46 But that is a gift. Well, that will explain where 09:48 my sanity went. But you are having 09:52 number of children too. In fact take a break and 09:55 tell us a little bit about the age of these kids, 09:56 because I was shocked when you told me 09:58 Steven started college I mean, that's just. 10:01 I've had kids in my home now for 35 years. 10:05 Wow! Okay. And I'm tired, get out of my home. 10:10 But the oldest Sheri is 35, and the youngest 10:14 Nathan is 14, going on 15. Wow! And Steven is 10:20 beginning college student, he is graduating this 10:22 year, he is 17. Isn't that unreal? 10:24 And then the Rachel and then Daniel, yeah. 10:29 They are scattered all over the place. 10:31 That's right. That's great, it's wonderful. 10:34 You know we asked, six grandkids already, 10:36 six grandkids. Okay, alright. Oh, that's right. 10:39 I'm gaining now, you catching me, yeah. 10:42 That's, that's good. What's fun about asking 10:44 Bible questions is Doug and I have been doing 10:46 Bible question for many years in Evangelism 10:49 and radio program, talk about your radio program. 10:52 You haven't mentioned that very much. 10:54 It's something that we've done consistently 10:56 now for 15 years, Bible answers live. 10:58 I don't know we've got hundreds of programs 11:00 now in the can and it's an adventure every 11:04 week, you've done with me before John, right, 11:06 and people call in we were on 3ABN radio, 11:10 people call in every Sunday night, it's live, 11:12 summary broadcasts, but usually it's Pastor 11:16 John Ross and I, and they call in 11:19 with Bible questions. We just ask that they 11:21 stick to the subject of Bible questions and we 11:25 get new questions every week and you know 11:28 I've got my laptop with scriptures in front of it, 11:30 but we really don't know what's going to 11:32 coming at that night. Yeah. And thousands of 11:35 people listen to the program because the 11:39 phone lines and it just fills up, first time we 11:42 started this program we were telling our friends, 11:44 call in with the Bible question so we can 11:46 have a question. But now before we've 11:49 gone on the air the phone start lighting up 11:51 and we stay pretty busy. People have asked me 11:56 now does Doug or these pre you know 11:59 questions, does he know what's coming 12:00 over the years. You know I've interviewed 12:02 you so many times and sometimes he have his 12:04 computer and sometimes he doesn't and they say, 12:07 now does he really know he couldn't know 12:09 all these things, but I said to myself now 12:11 these are legitimate. There is no pre, 12:14 no questions to him and one night that's when 12:16 I said, okay if I have a need to get in front of 12:19 somebody then I'm gonna have to answer. 12:21 I want Doug to be with me, they ask summary 12:24 questions, ridiculous, I don't care. 12:25 It was something like had to do with 12:27 Hezekiah. I don't know if it's a relative or 12:29 cousin or something. I didn't even know what 12:31 he had and somebody said, well what, he is 12:34 only mentioned like once in the Bible. 12:36 Can you tell us about this and I'm like what a 12:38 ridiculous question, you know in my mind 12:40 I think no that can't be, is there such a person 12:43 and Doug is like I see, I think if you turn to 12:47 Second King's and he gives the chapter and 12:49 verse number right, you got to be kidding so 12:51 I quickly get my Bible and there it was. 12:53 So I said, okay, Doug you are on my team. 12:56 I am getting Bible boy I want you with me. 12:58 I don't have my laptop tonight, but somebody, 12:59 somebody is after you saying that is gonna ask 13:01 a question I have no idea. Well that's fine. 13:04 I am sure nobody knows everything but, 13:07 it is fun to watch you guys and John too. 13:09 John is good at this you know. 13:11 Yeah the fun thing about it is and this is 13:13 true, the more you do it, the more you retain. 13:17 It's truly like exercise, the more you answer 13:20 Bible questions the more you remember. 13:22 The more knowledge you gain, but when you 13:24 stop putting yourself in a situation where you 13:26 have to answer questions off the cuff 13:28 then you start loosing what's there and that's 13:30 the thing that is so important about the 13:32 Bible question program. You remember I forgot 13:34 with the statistics are, but I only remember 13:36 like 10 percent of what you hear and you may 13:39 remember you know 20 percent of what you 13:42 read or 30 percent of what you write, 13:45 but if you actually share something that's what 13:47 you've the highest retention is if you read 13:50 a truth and you share it before you forget it, 13:52 it will be stored in your memory and so the best 13:55 way to keep the scriptures is as you 13:57 were saying, give Bible studies and you will 14:00 remember. Okay. I was very surprised to hear 14:02 that somebody asked you guys, I think John 14:05 you too, to do a program with a couple 14:08 of Sunday Pastors and talk about the Sabbath 14:11 and do that on the air. I still have the tape. 14:13 Tell me about that? Well, actually, actually 14:16 I was the one that invited Doug and Alan 14:18 Reinach. I was singing for a television network 14:23 Out West, Concorde, Concorde is called coast 14:26 to coast was the program. It didn't go from coast 14:28 to coast, but it was called coast to coast, 14:30 okay, and the, R.C. House, he travels 14:34 I think allow with Bennie Hen but his son 14:36 R.C House Junior. I was there one day and 14:39 I was singing songs, it was in February I never 14:41 forget that because he said, make sure all the 14:43 songs you sing are about love because they 14:45 want to do a program about you know love 14:46 and relationships. Yes. And that day 14:48 I was so impressed I said, Lord I know I'm 14:50 not here just to sing and I honestly I went to a 14:53 dark corner of the studio, turned my face 14:55 to the corner and said, Lord I wanted to be on 14:59 that couch I've heard so many things and I know 15:02 they are not right, and I went and sat on the 15:04 floor and waiting for me to get called and 15:06 they said, we're starting a new program called 15:08 "Round Table" and then this was your first topic 15:12 and the owner of the station, the host of the 15:15 program, he says, first one is going to be 15:17 Sunday versus Sabbath, really, and his staff said 15:20 are you kidding me? Do you realize, 15:23 I mean are you serious, I said no I am being 15:25 very honest. He said I was preaching a 15:27 seminar about the Sabbath and I will be 15:29 honest with it, about the Ten Commandments 15:30 and I got to the Sabbath. I honestly didn't know. 15:33 So I preached about a good Christian work 15:35 ethic and they said well who is going to get host 15:38 that program and he leaned back and said, 15:41 hey, Pastor John Lomacang I'm sure he 15:43 can get a couple of guys and that's the one we 15:45 did one was amazing I still have that. 15:47 We did two programs we did one and they 15:48 also did either death or state of dead, 15:50 the State of dead and Sabbath. Yeah. 15:52 And then they invited you back to do 15:53 something, because on the whole, they had 15:55 some Sunday Pastor, but here is what 15:56 happened, three on each side I invited Doug and 16:00 Alan Reinach and then they had the host and 16:03 two other and he said as the program began he 16:05 said, now get your Bible, get your pen, 16:06 get your paper, he says, now we're gonna talk 16:09 about the Sabbath versus Sunday, we don't 16:10 want to hear that grandma told you do it 16:12 or your church told you do it, we're gonna do 16:14 what the Bible says, if it's not in the Bible 16:16 we don't wanna do it so gets your questions, 16:18 halfway in the program but the half hour mark 16:21 he leaned over the desk and he said to his two 16:22 guys, you got to give me something they are 16:24 killing us, but he was honest about it. Yeah. 16:29 And that forced a relationship because he 16:31 invited Doug Batchelor to do programs. 16:33 Yeah, he invited Alan Reinach back, 16:35 he invited me back to defend him now on 16:38 some new views that he formally didn't hold to. 16:41 So it was a call to Douglas, it was a great 16:44 program. It's a VHS, now I don't know how 16:46 I'm gonna watch it but I've got 16:47 the recording of that. You have to have put 16:49 on a DVD I would like do that. I shall do that 16:52 because I've told people about that. Yeah. 16:54 That's amazing. Tell us about your, now we are 16:57 going to get to these questions, 16:59 we are here, but tell us about you have a new 17:02 book and well, it's like to, I do some writing 17:05 but always what triggers a new book 17:08 and what's your topic? Well, for the several 17:11 years, I was part of a revival series like you, 17:15 was called "Who do you think you are". 17:16 I think It's probably the sermon of that, 17:18 it's actually played on 3ABN, but it's a whole 17:20 series that deals with the power of faith 17:24 and Pacific Press called the couple of years ago 17:27 and they said Doug maybe you could put 17:28 that into a book and we can make a devotional 17:30 book out of it and so we did that and it's the 17:33 devotional book for 2011 and they've got it 17:37 I think upon the screen. It's available through 17:39 the ABCs and sharing book. It's very inexpensive, 17:41 so you can get away and it's called 17:43 "Who do you think you are". It's got stories of 17:45 faith and it talks about how the devil is really 17:48 tried to steal your identity of Christians. 17:50 Wow! That's good. And how to find out 17:52 who you are in Christ? Okay. Well, I have to 17:55 read that. People say all the time I'm trying to 17:58 find myself and this book will help you do that. 18:02 It was through using scriptural foundations 18:04 I think it's inspiring, it encourages people 18:07 about how we can know our new creatures? 18:09 Now Doug he has a little different when he 18:12 was younger, he decided to find himself 18:14 and ended up in cave. I understand and tell me 18:18 if I wrong, but I understand you end up 18:20 living in cave naked, can I say that on television. 18:24 Yeah, compare to what everything else you see 18:25 on TV, it's probably pretty miles. 18:28 Now is that true? It is true. 18:30 People who maybe haven't seen you before, 18:32 they just joining us so you ended up as a 18:34 young person, that's a terrible part, living in 18:36 California in the mountains right. 18:38 You didn't catch, did you pick, as terrible 18:40 point you say for those who 18:41 haven't seen you before. Okay. Yeah, well, 18:47 a quick version of that is, yeah, I was raised, 18:51 my mother was Jewish, father had been raised 18:54 with the Baptist background, but they 18:55 pretty much became atheist before they 18:57 married and I was raised basically atheist, 19:02 got into trouble with the drugs and you know 19:05 contemplated suicide, hippy, by the time I was 19:10 15 I ran away from home and I was trying 19:13 to find some purpose and trying Eastern 19:15 religions as I wonder what the purpose of life 19:17 is and I moved into the mountains 19:20 above Palm Springs. I moved into a cave 19:21 there and I lived kind like a hermit for about a 19:26 year and half. I didn't wear clothes. 19:29 It was in the hills above Palm Springs. 19:30 It was warm most of the time and all the hippies 19:32 were doing back then so, I mean that's you 19:35 know that's not the, to me that's not the 19:36 exciting part of the story. Right, it's interesting, 19:40 yeah, where you know your mind like who has 19:42 the mind get to that point. Well, you know I was 19:46 trying to find God through nature. 19:47 I mean your folks they had a lot of money, 19:49 so it's not like you couldn't afford clothes 19:51 or couldn't have money if you wanted to be part 19:54 of the system so to speak go along with 19:55 things, right? Yeah, Dad was very wealthy 19:58 and they separated when I was three. 20:02 So mom lived in New York city and dad lived 20:05 in Miami beach, but we were trying to find God 20:09 through nature back then and so the idea 20:11 the more when you could be with nature 20:14 and so kind of hippies were all throwing their 20:16 clothes in the bushes and saying I'm going to 20:17 be one with nature and this is how God 20:20 made Adam and Eve. We tried to defend it 20:21 biblically you know since Adam and Eve 20:23 were necked and they were not ashamed then 20:25 so we really thought we were being spiritual, 20:26 but take my words friends that's not the plan. 20:31 Now what did you find in the cave besides, 20:33 well, rattlesnakes? Someone had left a 20:37 Bible there and I didn't read it right away 20:41 and you know there was all junk in the caves, 20:43 others had camped there before. 20:44 So there were cans and few pots and pans and 20:46 someone had left a Bible and after living 20:48 there for several months I started thumbing 20:50 through the Bible because I kept running 20:52 into Christians, there were hippies that had 20:56 converted to Jesus and we called them Jesus 20:58 freaks back then because they were very, 21:00 it's like they hadn't totally come of the LSD 21:02 epidural witnessing, yeah I remember those, 21:05 and so they were very enthusiastic and they're 21:06 getting your face and talking about Jesus and 21:09 I, you know I had very little Bible background 21:12 and so I started reading the Bible, no intention 21:15 to believe it, just so I could argue with 21:17 Christians and it changed my life and 21:21 so I eventually came out of cave yeah. 21:23 And you have a book called? 21:26 The book of the Testimony, it's called 21:27 the Richest Caveman, alright, and I think the 21:30 whole video is online if they just type in, 21:33 okay when we give an address pretty soon, 21:34 will it would be an address where people 21:36 can contact, sure, you know they can, 21:38 Amazing facts it's there. Amazing facts, so we 21:40 will put up and address pretty soon so people 21:42 can contact and you have a number of books 21:44 that you've written, but this latest one, 21:46 "Who do you think you are", 21:48 and in a nutshell who are we? 21:50 Well when we said Christ we become new 21:52 creatures and we are transformed into his 21:54 image and we become children of the king and 21:57 so appreciating that through faith, 22:00 we are new creatures you know the Bible 22:03 says that God calls those things that are 22:05 not as though they are, and so when we accept 22:08 that by faith it has a transforming power, 22:11 and so we become new creatures. Okay, John. 22:13 Well, we have some Bible questions. 22:14 Yeah, let's do it. And for those of you who 22:16 are wondering where do you send these 22:18 questions you can send them to live@3abn.org, 22:23 I think that's correct. Alright! But here's one, 22:24 there it is, and this is right up your ally, 22:28 not that the others are not, but it says 22:30 if a person belongs to a dying or stagnant 22:32 church, how can it be revived when the 22:35 people don't wish the revision? 22:39 And they put they are afraid of change how 22:41 could they survive pretty much in the 22:43 dying church? I wrote a book years 22:46 ago called "How to Survive", 22:48 How to survive in church? How to Survive and 22:50 Thrive in Church? And one of the 22:53 chapters in there is how do you know, 22:56 how do you live in what appears 22:57 to be a dead church? And the real key is 23:00 revival begins with you and you know the real 23:04 revival is contagious and so when we catch 23:07 it we want to expose ourselves as much as 23:09 we can, when we can catch it then it's more 23:12 likely to diffuse and spread in our church 23:16 and as we said earlier the three things you 23:18 can do for anybody if you want to see a 23:20 transformation is be a good example and so if 23:23 you have a church that it seems like things are 23:26 dead you'll be loving and Christ like and 23:29 enthusiastic and carbonated about your 23:32 Christianity, pray for revival and share good 23:37 information, inspirational information and the 23:40 truth does change and so those are the three 23:42 things that make a big difference. 23:45 Here is one that actually it's addressed to me 23:48 I wanna kind of clear this up that sometimes 23:50 you say things without the framework and it's 23:52 sounds little differently. And thank you so much 23:54 for sending this question, 23:55 Diana says, John Lomacang said, 23:57 something that set my nerves on edge as 23:59 difficult as it was for me to come back to church. 24:02 It's hard on you for people to say you just 24:05 sitting off in a corner potting. 24:08 It's actually pretty huge that they are even there. 24:11 And so I don't want you to be offended by that 24:15 statement if it sound incorrect I do apologize 24:18 for that, but the point of the matter is we were 24:20 saying there are various things that cause people 24:22 to stray away from church and I spoke to 24:26 someone actually today, a member who just 24:29 went through a very difficult crisis and that 24:32 person's life from being general, I don't want to 24:33 be male or female just so that nobody would 24:35 really narrow it down. And I said one of the 24:38 first things that usually happens when a person 24:39 decide to stay away from church, is the 24:43 spiritual life is the first thing that gets impacted 24:46 and the long do you stay away the more 24:48 concrete it gets to hard, it's like concrete that 24:51 start setting and somebody has to 24:53 literally come and break up the concrete by 24:55 loving you back. That's right. And you know, 24:58 also as a Pastor Doug, I know you had this 24:59 experience, sometimes even as Pastors we have 25:04 to pray for, now speaking of my own 25:06 experience, we have to pray for wisdom to go 25:09 after that person so we could say the right thing 25:12 and but yet there are many situations that 25:15 cause people be out there so, what do you 25:18 say to people that are at home and maybe they 25:21 are therefore, maybe they've been offended, 25:23 how do you help a person in that respect? 25:26 Well I think it helps me to realize that if I were 25:31 the devil the very thing I would do is try to 25:35 keep people from going to church by getting 25:37 someone to hurt their feelings and you know 25:41 would we wanna join Jesus' Church and yet 25:44 he had a Judas in the church that was so 25:47 insensible, betrayed the savior. 25:50 And so it's, you know, it's expected that there 25:53 is gonna be friendly fire. You look at the stories 25:56 in the Bible, first murder it was a brother. 26:02 You know right there in the beginning of the 26:03 Bible and Joseph was sold by his brothers. 26:08 David is made fun of by his brothers and chased 26:10 by his own king, betrayed by his own, 26:12 attacked by his own son and you just see the 26:16 history in the Bible that the devil has often tried 26:18 to work from within by causing friendly fire in 26:21 the family, a family feud, and so it's 26:24 expected, it's anticipated when you join the 26:25 church you know a lot of our Amazing Facts 26:28 Evangelists when people are baptized 26:30 they try and prep them and say now you may 26:32 find when you join the flock of God, the family 26:35 of God that there is gonna be imperfect 26:37 people in there and there might be people 26:38 that will hurt your feelings. 26:40 Just put on your armor really and realize that 26:42 those people need love also and so 26:47 Jesus is our example. He will never let you down. 26:50 That's right. And so keep your eyes on Him; 26:52 don't be discouraged by somebody that might 26:54 offend you. I have got a question here that 26:57 maybe I can address new guys comment it 26:59 says, well, what happen if all the Adventist 27:02 channels got together and it says I think it 27:05 would really be a blessing for them to 27:07 join together it could bless the whole world, 27:09 why can it happen in the sense we are 27:11 together because what puts us together 27:13 is the a same message. We are preaching the 27:15 same message, but there are so much 27:17 programming available, no one channel could 27:20 do it just like 3ABN itself has about 6 27:22 channels or so now, we kind of Sunbeam, 27:25 you know our Proclaim, our Russian channel, 27:28 our new Dare to Dream channel, 27:29 Latino you know regular 3ABN and then 27:34 of course Hope has a few channels and 27:36 Amazing Facts has channel up there now 27:38 right, and so there is others you know LLB 27:41 all of these people and no one person is going 27:44 to reach everybody so with different entities 27:47 it's like to say let's build one big church and all 27:50 Adventists go to that one church come 27:51 together, well it's not practical in the same 27:54 sense to me, it's not practical. 27:56 In fact it's great because we have a totally 27:58 different audience. For instance so in G-19, 28:00 a satellite that some of you have there are a 28:03 number of Adventist channels, but most of 28:05 you getting 3ABN on Dish Network were the 28:08 only one there with those 15 million homes, 28:11 this full time channel for hundreds if not few 28:15 thousands cable stations around the world 28:18 is getting 3ABN, those on satellite systems, 28:22 those on of course internet or own 28:24 channels, 3ABN has all the downlink stations, 28:28 a 120 or 130 what have you plus nearly 200 28:31 radio stations, they are reaching different 28:33 people than Hope reaching over here or 28:35 maybe Amazing Facts is reaching over here. 28:38 So all of us together are reaching different areas 28:41 of the world, so it's not a competition thing, 28:45 we are all just doing what God has blessed 28:47 us to do and we work together. 28:49 In fact the unity that we pray for each other and 28:52 wish everybody well and you know this 28:55 message to go to an entire world. 28:57 So it's like saying maybe let's just support 29:01 Doug Batchelor, an Evangelist, let's all get 29:03 behind him. Well let's do, let's get 29:05 behind John Lomacang too and John can be 29:07 preaching to an audience over here. 29:09 Doug is preaching to someone there. 29:11 David Asscherick is preaching to someone 29:13 over here, right, and that's really so I hope 29:15 that answers your question, but I don't 29:17 know if you guys having comments on it, but. 29:20 Well, for one thing we are working together 29:21 I mean, yeah, obviously we do things every year 29:24 and we are here together now, right, 29:26 so when they say working together if they 29:28 talking about consolidating all of them into one 29:32 I remember some of the first vehicles I drove 29:34 had a radio with one speaker. 29:36 I'm really glad thought the cars have about six 29:38 speakers and it kind of gives you surround 29:41 sound and I am not going go poke out the 29:43 other speakers, yeah, yeah. So, you get back to 29:45 mono again. Yeah, I will be honest that 29:47 I have G-19 at home and it's wonderful 29:51 having the options because different hours 29:52 of day, different people are available and you 29:56 have such so many choices now that it 30:00 multiplies the voices and the messages, 30:03 so many more people are hearing what they 30:05 need to hear when they need to hear it and it's, 30:07 I think it's multiplying the impact. 30:10 Like you know we were in, well, actually I was 30:13 in Australia and I was speaking at a church 30:17 there few years ago and a family showed up 30:20 and I told Moses about, hey Moses I am so glad 30:24 that you guys are broadcasting 30:26 in these cities. We don't have any 30:28 contract in that city. When I broadcasting 30:30 there I said, well, how did you get this? 30:33 He said I have no idea how they got it, but that 30:36 family not a Adventist family, they came to the 30:38 meetings and somehow they heard that I was 30:41 going to be there, not through the people 30:44 that invited me because nobody knew who they 30:45 were, so it's amazing. They were watching. 30:48 They were watching either on the internet or 30:50 it was in, actually was in Sydney, Australia. 30:54 And so it's amazing how God gets around 30:56 and what's nice about that is, it increases the 30:58 possibilities of people being able to see the 31:00 programming when it's on a number of 31:03 channels because can you imagine all the 31:05 channels, now-a-days you have to find that 31:06 one channel with all Adventists on it, 31:09 but there are so many more. 31:10 So praise the God diversity. Amen. 31:12 Doug somebody wants to know that should you 31:14 talk about setting dates and of course you don't 31:17 agree that this is likely to happen that Jesus 31:20 coming on these particular dates in May, 31:23 they said in some ways where we lessening the 31:26 fact there is an urgency that Jesus is coming soon. 31:30 They want you to come, where do you see us in 31:32 this world history if you don't think it's ending, 31:35 May 31st, when do you think it's gonna end? 31:38 Yeah, and I think that the date that Herold 31:41 Campaign in particular speaking is May 21st or 31:44 22nd I forget, but most people when they try 31:48 and say how does He come to that date? 31:52 Nobody but He understands the logic 31:55 behind it. It's to me and I don't want to be 31:57 unkind but it's just seems like very 31:59 convoluted theology. We began the broadcast 32:02 by saying, I've got this inner sense that we're 32:05 living in times that are very profound that 32:09 something is unfolding, that we are living in the 32:12 last days and you know, Peter said, day with the 32:15 Lord is like a thousand years and thousand 32:17 years is a day and I think that we should 32:19 plan with long range plans for Evangelism 32:23 and I will be very happy if the Lord comes 32:26 before I get to go to Jakarta, I never been 32:27 there, looking forward to it but God says Doug. 32:30 I am going to come first. I am not going to 32:31 say Lord but wait I haven't preached in 32:33 Jakarta yet. So you know if God comes 32:36 sooner, wonderful, but yeah I think we need to 32:39 guard against setting a date. 32:42 Jesus said, we can know when the time is near. 32:44 That's right. But no man knows the day or the hour. 32:46 I think we do know the time is near. 32:48 Yeah, that was Matthew 24:32, we could know 32:50 by all the budding flowers as the summer 32:53 is coming, in the very same way all these 32:54 events starting happen together, 32:57 tells us these thoughts. It's time of the times. 32:59 You have another one Danny? 33:01 Yeah, we have several here. 33:02 I am trying to pick out which one for sure. 33:04 I have someone Dr. Conley he said Danny talked to 33:07 earlier about Pastor Doug and Pastor John 33:10 have an tag team and he didn't hear what you 33:13 guys thought about it, so you're doing tag, 33:16 prophecy tag team? Well, some tag team 33:19 maybe a practicality. But you use to do Bible 33:21 questions with John? Yeah. You would help 33:23 me doing our Evangelistic meetings. 33:24 He supposed to be singing, it help me do 33:26 you know you can read the questions and 33:28 ostensibly I was supposed to answer 33:29 but John got so excited. I had several times 33:33 I just did sit out what he answered, he'd read the 33:35 questions, hey, let me answer that one. 33:37 Alright, oh, that's a tag team. 33:39 We've done a tag team before you. 33:40 Yeah, one of our lighter moments in the 33:42 Sacramento Carmichael Church years ago when 33:44 that was being taped actually and I've fell 33:48 into the trap of, well, okay when we add 33:50 another thing to that questions and started 33:52 doing that too frequently as Doug said, 33:54 John would you cut that out. 33:55 I am supposed to answer the questions, 33:56 you ask them, and he said besides you it look 33:59 like a car with his doors open, my ears and I said 34:03 you look like a comfortable with top down. 34:06 You had to be there. It was a lighter moment. 34:08 It was a lighter moment, it was, okay, but we 34:10 loved doing that together. So we will think about 34:12 that maybe in the future doing something like that. 34:14 I am sure we will. Well great. 34:16 Well that's the beauty of having a network and 34:18 again thanks to all of you for your love and 34:21 your prayers and financial support of 34:23 these ministries of 3ABN and Amazing 34:24 Facts where we literally have this opportunity. 34:28 I am really more conscious than ever 34:31 when I see already that Christians can't be these 34:35 Pentecost folk, can't be foster parents if they are 34:39 teaching about homosexuality 34:42 and probably a numerous other things 34:45 and how is that effecting the airways or 34:47 certain things in Canada already. 34:50 You can't, they call and what is hey? 34:51 Hate speech! Hate speech or something, 34:53 or hate crimes, if you disagree and the others 34:55 I've mentioned earlier people disagree with us 34:58 all the time as Christians they can call 35:01 us all the kind of things for believing in creation 35:05 and so it's almost overwhelming the time 35:08 how short it is and that we need to take 35:11 advantage of that and as we joined together 35:14 and prayerfully and financially we can reach 35:17 so many avenues to reach, but we wanna get 35:20 it while we can get on here and talk to where 35:23 we are tonight, give our opinions and give what 35:28 the Bible says, it's not our opinions, 35:29 it's important actually but it's how we perceive 35:31 Bible truth and we have the freedom to do that. 35:33 So thank you for your support that we can 35:35 continue to do that. Amen. Here is a person 35:37 by the name of Tommy that has question; 35:39 was Jesus created or was He like God just there? 35:45 My wife is a Jehovah's Witness and I 35:47 believes that Jesus was created, 35:50 and she believes that Jesus was created by God, 35:53 but he is adding I don't believe that but I can't 35:55 find the scriptures. Well it's quite a few 35:59 scriptures and I've got be careful to rash and 36:02 how much I'll say here, she will stop me, 36:05 from everlasting to everlasting that our 36:07 God, Christ is the alpha and the omega. 36:11 The Bible says that all things that were made, 36:13 this to me is what they were called a Slam 36:15 Dunk who speak basketballs, 36:17 it's what they call it, yeah, but I don't slam 36:19 dunk, but its nice thought. We can get a hooked 36:22 down low for it, but you can, yeah can't afford, 36:25 but this to me is a slam dunk is that, the Bible 36:28 says all things that were made or made by Him 36:30 and without Him was not anything 36:32 made that was made. If all things were made 36:36 by Christ, the word and if He was made by the 36:40 father then He didn't make Himself which 36:42 means He didn't make all things and 36:45 furthermore the Bible says that God is love. 36:49 If God, the Father existed without the son 36:51 for Aeons and the son was the first creation as 36:56 some Jehovah Witnesses believe; 36:59 how can God be love with no one to love? 37:02 But if God has always been the God, head of 37:05 the father, son and spirit, there can always 37:08 be love existing between them you can't 37:11 be love without giving and so if God the Father 37:14 was self-existing with no other being he 37:18 couldn't be loved. Is this that makes sense? 37:21 Yeah. And so there is a lot of you know from 37:23 it says that in the Bible Jesus says before 37:27 Abraham was "I am" the term "I am" is uses 37:30 the self existence one. That's right. And they 37:33 got a little book that Amazing Facts, if you 37:35 don't mind can I mentioned it, no go 37:36 ahead, it's free people can download it's call 37:38 the Trinity Is A Biblical, they just go to Amazing 37:41 Facts under the Fre Library, the Trinity is a 37:43 Biblical to whole Bible study on that subject 37:46 and we will have a lot of these same version there. 37:48 Let me add a couple verses since the time 37:49 our tag teaming. Sure. Okay. One of the ones, 37:52 you know, having lived in New York City 37:56 that's with watch tower located and we wanted 37:58 to be kind also we are not slamming anyone 38:00 particularly with on that particular teaching, 38:04 the believe is that Jesus is mighty God and the 38:07 Father is almighty God, that's one of the 38:10 phrases, but that's not actually true because in 38:13 Revelation 1, speaking about Jesus He says, 38:16 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning 38:18 and the end says the Lord who is and who 38:21 was and who is to come, the Almighty 38:25 and then in Hebrews one, last one here, 38:29 speaking of the Lord, speaking of the Father, 38:33 now the Father says God at various times in 38:35 different ways spoken times pass by to the 38:40 Father by the prophets has in these last day 38:43 spoken to us through his son, but now listen 38:45 what is God has said that, but now listen to 38:47 the son, in verse 8 of Hebrew's 1, but to 38:50 the son he says, "Your throne, O God, 38:53 is forever and ever". And so ever and ever is 38:57 a term meaning never beginning, 38:59 and never an end. Yeah. Jesus is eternal 39:02 future path. He was not made, He is not a creature. 39:05 He is a creator. That's right. 39:08 Here is an interesting question, it says if and 39:11 you have to tell us if this is true or not, 39:14 if the Ten Commandments existed in heaven, 39:17 how do you apply the Seventh Commandment 39:19 since the angels do not marry? 39:22 Or you might even ask how would you apply 39:24 the Fourth Commandment if you know before the 39:26 world is made you have the Rotation of the 39:28 planet how would they keep the Sabbath 39:30 I mean is it govern by a son up there 39:33 in heaven somewhere. When we talked about 39:35 the Ten Commandments existing before, Paul 39:38 says, all of the Commandments are 39:39 summarized in, I love the Lord with all your 39:43 heart and love your neighbor as yourself, 39:45 so the principles of the Ten Commandments 39:46 have always existed and principles of for 39:49 instance like the Seventh Commandment, fidelity 39:53 to covenants that's what marriage is about it's 39:55 fidelity to a covenant that's how it existed 39:58 and principles of worshiping God and 40:00 resting in God that you find in the Sabbath, 40:02 that's how it's existed, so certainly these 40:05 principles of the Ten Commandments are eternal. 40:08 God said back in the Garden of Eden when 40:11 Cain was, not garden but right after that when 40:14 Cain was thinking murdering his brother, 40:17 God said, sin lies at your door. 40:20 And there is no law written yet. 40:22 So what sin? Without law there is no sin. 40:26 So the law don't murder must have existed back 40:29 in Cain's day, even though the Ten 40:32 Commandments were written. So they have always 40:34 been, so that's a good question. 40:37 Many people are saying that the 40:40 Ten Commandments the first time they made 40:42 any entrance they were given on Mount Sinai 40:45 by God to Moses but only for the Jews. 40:49 Can I, let me just throw one more reference, 40:52 go ahead, Joseph lived long before on Mount 40:53 Sinai, and when he was tempted by part of his 40:56 wife he said how can I do this evil 40:58 and sin against God? And so how did he 41:01 know, and so he knew adultery was wrong 41:03 long before the Ten Commandments. 41:05 God originally, keep in mind, the word of God 41:10 existed from the beginning. 41:12 Moses wrote down was the first one to codified, 41:15 up until the time of Moses the word of God 41:17 was given orally. And so they knew it. 41:22 They passed it on. Their minds were so 41:24 magnificent in the Garden of Eden, 41:27 they had photographic memories. 41:29 And Adam and Eve communicated the truth 41:32 verbatim from God. They got from the 41:35 mouth of God to their offspring and they were 41:38 able to retain it. But after the flood, 41:41 and keep in mind, Abraham knew Shem, 41:46 the son of Noah, who had lived before the 41:50 flood lived during the time of Abraham. 41:54 And so they had been transferring things 41:56 orally then. Abraham lived 175 years, 41:59 their minds were incredible. 42:00 You know how much I will remember when I am 175. 42:04 The rate I am going. Did anyone keep the 42:07 Sabbath before it was handed to Moses? 42:11 You know the answer of that all at you. 42:12 As a matter of fact, Genesis 26 and verse 5, 42:14 Abraham before even the call of the, 42:16 before Abraham alone before Isaac, before 42:19 Jacob, the Bible says in Genesis 26 and verse 5, 42:22 Abraham kept my Commandments, 42:24 my statutes, and my laws. So it couldn't be, 42:27 where's that found, Genesis 26 and verse 5 42:29 Okay so those of you at you home. 42:31 And in Exodus before Mount Sinai one of the 42:33 reasons why Pharaoh was upset with Moses is 42:35 because he gave them one day to rest. 42:39 When we look at the word rest there it's the 42:40 Hebrew word for Sabbath. Okay. 42:43 So he restored to them. He reminded them up 42:45 the Sabbath. While they were still in slavery? 42:47 While they were in Egypt, in Egypt, 42:48 before they left, advantage they were 42:50 keeping the Sabbath, exactly, but they were 42:52 always upset about it. And last point is before 42:54 they got to Mount Sinai, Exodus 16 says, 42:58 the Lord tested them on the Sabbath how long 43:00 do you refuse to keep my Commandments? 43:02 How long do you refuse to keep my Sabbath? 43:04 Was that in chronological order or I've heard 43:07 people say about those chapters that are just 43:09 not in the right order. Oh no Exodus, when 43:12 when they were, before they got to Sinai, 43:13 the Lord tested them on diet. Okay. 43:16 And the issue was there will be no food on the 43:17 Sabbath, before they got to Sinai before the 43:20 Commandments were written down. 43:21 Okay. Well. And the Pharaoh said the actual 43:23 word there in Genesis, I am sorry Exodus when 43:26 the Pharaoh said, why do make the people Sabbath? 43:29 Exactly! So you are making the people 43:31 Sabbath and I am gonna increase their labor. 43:34 Oh! Wow! Don't let them rest. Okay. 43:36 So when we hear all of these because that's one 43:38 of the things we hear so much about is the 43:41 Sabbath was just for the Jews given to the 43:43 Jews on Mount Sinai and before that. 43:46 That always astounds me because and I don't 43:48 wanna say this is graceful. And pastors, I am not 43:50 talking about just individuals, yeah okay 43:52 we go with pastors because of our Ten 43:53 Commandments book that showing that put 43:56 together, they write say about you guys that's 43:58 the Jewish thing, it was given. 43:59 The logic of God writing Ten Commandments as 44:03 a complete unit and the one Commandment that 44:07 begins with the word remember that's the 44:10 longest of the Ten Commandments in the 44:11 middle of the law for someone to say what 44:14 word to keep the other nine but that one that's 44:16 been basically nestled in the very core of the 44:19 Ten Commandments, it was just for this one 44:22 race of people. And what Pastor believes 44:25 that it was only Jews that needed a day of rest. 44:28 Yeah. So you know I never have heard a 44:30 Pastor stands before his congregation and say 44:33 stop coming to church on Sunday because we 44:36 are not under the law, we are under grace. 44:38 Their problem was not with the concept of the 44:39 Sabbath, but their problem is with the day. 44:41 Okay. Which day it is? Okay. And so a matter 44:46 of fact some churches trying to get rid of the 44:47 whole idea of the Ten Commandments, 44:50 not that they have a problem with, 44:51 don't worship idols or don't commit adultery 44:53 or kill, the problem is with that one 44:55 Commandment that says what day to 44:57 remember because they know; you just can't 44:58 defend a Commandment that says; remember the 45:01 first day to keep it holy, it doesn't say that. 45:03 That's right. And it's interesting you said, 45:05 the only Commandment that starts with 45:07 remember is the one that, trying to get same, 45:10 is same to be forgotten by people. Yeah. 45:11 Now think the logic of that there are at least 45:14 three members that I often refer to; 45:16 would you say to the young people that says 45:18 remember the creator in the days of the youth. 45:19 Would you say to the young people no don't 45:21 do that, young people don't need Jesus, 45:23 they don't need God in their lives. 45:24 Do you believe that? No. The other one is 45:26 remember Lord's wife? Do we say well forget 45:29 Lord's wife? She looked back, doesn't really 45:30 mean anything. But when it comes to what 45:33 God has said, but the issue that Satan wants 45:35 us to forget what God said, that's what when 45:37 he came to Eve, he says, did God really say that? 45:40 Yeah. So it's an issue with Satan and God. 45:42 It uses ministries to break down our desire 45:45 to listen to God. Here's a question Doug. 45:49 Shall we this one? Yeah, sure. 45:51 I know Pastor Doug used to be a smoker. 45:54 I want to know how he over cam. 45:58 Well that's concise. And you smoked a 45:59 number of things not just tobacco 46:01 I understand. That's true. Probably couldn't even 46:04 count all the different things I think I smoked 46:05 everything from banana peels to mushrooms 46:08 in my day which explained the failing 46:11 memory too. I've ever seen that. 46:13 I don't think exactly. It is a struggle and some 46:16 have said that getting off tobacco can be as 46:18 hard as heroine. It is a struggle, but 46:22 you can do all things with Christ. 46:24 What helped me is really, it's just a 46:27 powerful of God, but just love for Christ, 46:31 I threw away my cigarette several times 46:33 and then a few days later I get them back, 46:35 it was just more a habit than a physical addiction. 46:38 And one day I was struggling for months to 46:42 quit smoking I was convicted God want me 46:44 to quit and I said Lord if you give me a new 46:48 truck I quit smoking because I had this 46:50 broken down firewood truck. 46:53 And a little voice said, Doug you would quit 46:54 smoking for a truck but you won't quit for me 46:57 and I gave my life for you. Wow! And I just was 47:00 sort of overwhelming how selfish I was, 47:01 and I said, you know Jesus died for me and 47:04 I am thinking Lord make a deal, I will quit 47:05 smoking if you give me a truck. Oh. 47:08 And I thought boy what value do 47:10 I place on his sacrifice. So I went home, 47:13 I threw away my cigarettes, but there is 47:16 really what I call 5 minute plan also 47:18 and that's very simple, a person asked this 47:20 question, do you believe God wants you 47:22 to quit smoking? Let's assume the answer is yes. 47:24 Okay. Secondly, will God help you do what 47:28 He wants you to do? That's up to you. 47:30 If you believe the answer is yes, then the 47:33 third thing is throw away your cigarettes, 47:35 now this is very important sequence, 47:37 throw away your cigarettes, your alcohol, 47:39 whatever your addition is, destroy, get it out of 47:41 your house, take a step of faith. 47:44 The Bible says, draw near to God he will 47:45 draw near you, you take the first step and use 47:48 what the power of God has given you to make a 47:50 choice, throw it away and then get on your 47:53 knees and say Lord I am powerless without 47:56 your help to get the victory over this. 47:58 You draw near to God, He will draw near to 48:00 you and He will give you strength so that you 48:02 will not be tempted above what you are able to bear. 48:06 That's right. Wow! That's correct. 48:08 The works we've seen in Evangelistic 48:10 meetings of thousand times. 48:11 You are living testimony of yourself, 48:14 that's wonderful. Jean says a month ago, 48:18 a lady walked into their church and she says the 48:20 reason see watch 3ABN with Doug Batchelor 48:23 says she really appreciates all of us and she is 48:27 supporting the ministries and said the lady that 48:30 walked into church is getting baptized. 48:33 And here is another one says, I love John 48:35 Lomacang singing, I became an SDA 48:38 because of seeing Doug Batchelor on 3ABN and 48:40 it says, God bless Doug and Danny too. 48:43 Thank you, Sherri. And Sherri, that's wonderful. 48:48 Okay. Another wonderful, I want to thank 3ABN 48:53 for turning my life around and for actually 48:55 saving my life. God bless all of you guys. 48:59 Thank you so much Sherri. 49:02 Here is another one; there was a group 49:04 World's last chance that's I guess the group's 49:07 title, that's says that the Sabbath is based 49:11 on the new moon. Have you ever heard this before? 49:16 Yeah. That's unfortunate. It's a, you know there is 49:20 always all kinds of theories that are floating 49:22 around that usually are distractions and one of 49:25 the theories that we've encountered is people 49:28 who are saying that the Sabbath now is not 49:30 governed by the weekly cycle but it's really 49:32 governed by the moon which means that lands 49:34 were same as the Sabbath lands in 49:35 different days of the week, every month, 49:37 it might be Wednesday one week and it might 49:40 be Monday another, based on the moon, 49:44 and I would just disagree in the strongest 49:49 terms with that theory. You can look at the 49:53 nation of Israel and go back its foreign history 49:56 as it's recorded and the continuity of the weekly 50:00 cycle has been what he has governed the 50:02 Sabbath, I'm half Jewish. You can look at the 50:06 history is far back is written history among 50:09 the Israelites has written. They did have Lunar 50:12 Sabbaths that were part of their annual feasts, 50:16 but that's completely separate from the 50:17 weekly Sabbaths, that came in a sequence 50:21 of every seven days and it coincided with the 50:26 days of the week. And you look in any 50:27 dictionary, look in any encyclopedia, you look 50:29 up Sunday it will say first day of the week, 50:31 you look up Saturday it will say 50:33 seventh day of the week. And so this is a kind of 50:37 pardon me friends I don't want to be unkind, 50:38 but I want to be straight, it is a convoluted theory 50:41 that is distracting and confusing people. 50:43 I can understand now here for me is the 50:46 Kudegra, Slam Dunk in that argument. 50:49 You might convince me that one or two Jews, 50:52 got locked up somewhere with no 50:53 sunlight and they lost track of time. 50:56 But the idea that the Jewish nation all 50:59 simultaneously got mixed up about how to 51:01 keep their Sabbath and yet Jews around the 51:03 world still know it's Saturday the seventh 51:06 day and the, And not only that the 51:08 Catholic Church from the first century 51:11 as always said Sunday was Sunday and that's 51:13 one thing they agree on. They agree that Sunday 51:15 is Sunday with the Jews and Jews agree that 51:18 Sunday is Sunday and Saturday is Saturday so. 51:20 Muslims agree that Friday is Friday. Yes. 51:21 So you would have the Muslims, the Jews and 51:24 the Catholics all agreeing that 51:26 these are still the days. 51:28 So I doubt all of these people would, 51:31 you know would be wrong in this, mistaken. 51:33 Only this, this is to, go ahead, this is to tap that 51:36 off, I mean to cap that of, if you tell people 51:39 come and pick up your check on the seventh 51:41 day of the week, they will know what day it is. 51:44 But here is how you separated to do from 51:46 new moon to Sabbath and the Bible shows it's 51:48 not the same. Isaiah 66 verse 22 and 23, 51:52 23, it shall come to pass that from one new 51:55 moon to another, and then, and from one 51:59 Sabbath to another, they're distinct. 52:01 It's totally separate, shall all flesh come to 52:05 worship before me, from one new moon, 52:06 every month. One is week to week, 52:08 one is month to month. Exactly! Okay. 52:10 Quickly we only have four minutes to do this 52:13 but they want to know there is a lady calling 52:15 she is a Christian not at this phase she says, 52:19 she didn't understand why you and others on 52:22 3ABN don't believe in the secret rapture? 52:25 So I know that's a long but we've got to make 52:28 this really quick. In fact I need to put 52:30 up an address roll. Let me put that at 52:32 first because I wanna to make sure people know 52:34 how to contact you. Then we will get back 52:36 and you got about a minute or two to answer that. 52:37 Let's go to the address roll, right now. 52:41 If you would like to find out more about 52:43 Amazing Facts or if you would like to support 52:45 their ministry you can contact them in a 52:47 variety of ways. You can write to 52:50 Amazing Facts Ministries, PO Box 52:53 1058, Roseville, California 95678. 52:57 That's Amazing Facts Ministries, PO Box 1058, 53:01 Roseville, California 95678. 53:04 You can all them at (916) 434-3880, 53:08 that's (916) 434-3880. Or you can visit their 53:13 web site for free Bible studies, upcoming event 53:15 information and a lot more just point your 53:18 browser to www. amazingfacts.org, 53:20 that's www. amazingfacts.org. 53:26 Okay Doug, two minutes or less why 53:28 don't you believe in a Secret Rapture that 53:30 much of the Christian world believes in? 53:32 Second Peter chapter 3, it tells us that the day 53:35 of the Lord will come as thief in the night, 53:37 people stop there and you see it's the secret 53:38 like a thief. Keep reading that verse, 53:41 the day the Lord will come as a thief in the 53:42 night in which the heavens pass away 53:44 with the great noise, the elements melt with 53:47 fervent heat, the earth and the things in it are 53:49 burned up, seeing that all these things will 53:51 dissolve, how could all of that be happening 53:54 and it be a secret. Now that website we 53:56 just gave, I've got a book called 53:58 "Anything but Secret". Oh, okay. The whole 54:01 Bible study on the visible nature of Jesus 54:06 coming, okay, so every eye shall see him is that 54:09 what it says? It's amazing we can 54:11 difference like that. Lightening from the 54:12 east to the west I mean just pounds and pounds 54:15 of scripture that make it everyone know that it's 54:18 very obvious. Okay. The last thing 54:21 we have time form, I am sorry no more 54:22 questions we talked earlier about a series, 54:26 maybe this fall, tell us about 54:28 that one more time. I don't know anybody 54:31 that doesn't know somebody that used to 54:34 go to church that doesn't anymore. 54:37 And we want to reach these people and we 54:39 don't like you say you have all the answers but 54:41 we want to do something. 54:42 We wanted to do a program and put 54:44 something with in your reach that can be 54:46 broadcasted and handed to people that you can 54:48 recommend or email people to reclaim this; 54:53 it's an ocean of missing members. 54:56 There are more people right now that are 54:57 inactive Christian and Adventists than they 55:00 aren't active. We've got to reach those people. 55:03 I Love it. John your comments! 55:05 Well, you know it's amazing about this. 55:06 I always think about the Faith's secret, why 55:08 would the Lord want to sneak up on you when 55:09 it's the greatest event in the world's history? 55:12 That's my answer to it. He is not gonna say hey 55:14 let's go, let's go, He is coming back to save 55:16 us from ourselves and praise the Lord for that 55:18 is not gonna be secret. My Lord shall come 55:21 and shall not keep silent and friends when the 55:23 Lord comes we are committed to being 55:25 ready for that and that's what this program is all 55:27 about, that's what this network getting people 55:29 ready for the greatest event. 55:31 The World Series is not a secret; the NFL's 55:33 Super Bowl is not a secret, why would Jesus 55:35 come back in a secret? Okay. Good. 55:39 Now Doug on this you will keep this updated 55:42 in our audience and how we can participate 55:44 and what we can do to reach out to those 55:47 locally to make sure there where they can 55:49 watch the television or the computer or 55:51 listening to the radio or what have you so we 55:53 can get these people involved, and then also 55:56 the revival and reformation. 55:58 We all need to be taken that very seriously. 56:01 We are thankful for a new general conference 56:03 president, and some new anymore but since 56:05 this past year 2010 in the summer, but putting 56:09 so great emphasis on revival and reformation 56:13 and I am trying to take that to my own personal 56:15 life before I take it to ohers and say you need 56:18 this in your life. I understand that 56:19 I need it and so each of us really need to 56:23 concentrate on rededicate and resubmitting, 56:25 recommitting our life to the Lord Jesus Christ 56:28 before we can go and tell what He has done 56:30 for us. Ellen White says our greatest asset is our 56:32 own personal testimony of what God has done for us. 56:36 And now all we have to do is go and share of 56:39 what Jesus, the difference He made 56:41 in our life, that's what the world 56:42 is looking for today. They are looking for 56:43 something different, they are looking for 56:45 way out when there is seemingly no way out, 56:48 even those that are not Christians, believe the 56:50 world is not gonna last very long. That's right. 56:52 They are right on that part. But we know why 56:54 Jesus is coming back very soon. 56:56 Hey our time is all gone for this evening. 56:59 Until we see you next time, may the Lord 57:01 richly bless you abundantly more 57:02 than you could ever ask or think. |
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