Well, welcome back,
we are so happy that
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you could join us,
and once again we've been
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talking a little
bit about the past 50
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years, and talking
also about the holiday
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season and what a wonderful time
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families can have
together and Camille,
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some of the great
family times we've
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had have taken place during
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the holiday
season. That's right.
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And tonight also
we're continuing with
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our 50th
anniversary. I want you to share
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now Joe Baker
put together a little
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sequence sort of the
story of our lives and
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we showed it that
evening at the vesper
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service before
the reception and so
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we're gonna show it to you now.
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Two couples were made especially
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happy the same
year, when children were
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born into their
homes. Roy and Venice Thurmon
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gave birth to their
first child in Tampa,
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Florida, and named their
daughter Catherine Camille.
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Meanwhile John
and Pauline Gilley
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welcome their fourth
child at Dallas, Texas
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naming their son James William.
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Camille grew up
in Florida, Alabama,
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and Arkansas as
her father Pastored
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churches in those states.
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Jim on the other hand
grew up in Texas in at
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around the city of
Tyler, moving back to
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Dallas when he was a teenager.
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During Camille's
final year at Ozark
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Academy her father
took a call to Houston,
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Texas prompting her
to make the decision
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to finish her
senior year of Academy at
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South Western
in King, Texas, and
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that's where
Jim and Camille met.
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They were both
very popular students,
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active in school
life, and they began dating
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as freshmen in
college. One week after their
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first date Jim asked
Camille to marry him,
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and she said,
yes, however only a few
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months later they
broke up and did not
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begin dating
again for almost a year.
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Six weeks after graduating from
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South Western
Junior College, they were
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married on 17th of
July at the Houston
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central Adventist
church. Camille had three
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friends as her
attendance and her brother James
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Earl as an usher.
Jim's three brothers Ed,
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John, and Paul
stood with him as Pastor
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Thurmon performed the wedding.
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The Honeymoon was
one night in near by
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Galveston, Texas.
Jim who only had a little
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over a hundred
dollars when they got
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married could not offered more,
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so the next
morning they drove back to
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Dallas where he began work on
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Tuesday and after 50
years he is still working.
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Their first year
of marriage was spent
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teaching public
school in Montana in the
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ranch country,
West of Miles city,
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and off the highway
some 24 miles from Cohagen.
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They attended church
at the Garfield County
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seat in Jordan,
Montana some 35 miles away.
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Jim has 6
students in his school and
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Camille had 9 in
hers, four miles away.
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The roads were
thought to be impossible in
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the winter snow
but Jim made it back to
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Camille's school
where they lived in a
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13/12 foot
teacherage with no running water
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and out door
bathroom facilities.
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In others words an outhouse.
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They received three
gallons of water a day
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five days a week,
for all the cooking,
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drinking and bathing needs.
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Bathing was done every Friday
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evening in a wash tub.
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Next they decided
to attend the newly
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named Andrews
University in Berrien
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Springs, Michigan
for their final two years
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of college,
knowing that would be the
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location of the
Seventh-day Adventist
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theological
seminary which Jim would
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eventually attend.
After the school year
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in Montana, Jim started selling
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promotional
advertising for a small company
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in Dallas making
sales that more than
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covered his
expenses for tuition.
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Needing the money to
enter school he called
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the company for a
check. They told him they
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had financial
problems and couldn't pay him.
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This major set
back convinced Jim that
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very day to start
his own promotional
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advertising firm
and he choose the name
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"Continental Specialty Company."
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He thought it
sounded like a big company
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though he ran it
from a desk in the laundry
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room and out of this VW Bug.
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He developed a
number of customers
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and one of them
was the McKee Baking
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Company who had
just started their line
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of Little Debbie Snack Cakes.
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One of Jim's first
orders with them was
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for pocket
protectors with a color photo of
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little Debbie trapped
in a clear vital trap.
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This concept was
brand new at that time
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and he located a
supplier in St. Louis,
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Missouri to manufacture them.
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His company proved
to be a very successful
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venture and he did well with the
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business, in fact,
it's still in existence at
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this time in Berrien Springs.
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In May of their
junior year in college,
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Jim's dad died of
cancer and the day
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after the funeral
they left for a summer job,
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they had arranged
previously by mail
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and phone to work
for the US Forest Service
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on Sourdough Mountain in the
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Nez Perce National
Forest. This job on a fire
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tower allowed
them to finish some
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correspondence courses that they
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needed for graduation
and still earn a $1.91
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in an hour while
watching for fires,
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saving their money
Jim and Camille were
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able to return to
Andrews University
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for their senior year
of college, graduating
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with degrees in religion
and elementary education
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respectively, hoping
for a call to the ministry.
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The couple was
very happy when Pastor
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Merle Mills called
them to the Southern
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New England
Conference in Massachusetts.
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He wanted Jim to
postpone his seminary
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study for one
year and being tired of
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studying and this
suited him just fine.
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Jim was appointed
assistant Pastor of the
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South Lancaster Village church,
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working with
Pastor Russell Adams whom
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both Jim and Camille
liked immediately and
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from whom Jim
learned so much and
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also planned a
church in nearby Leominster
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after he conducted
an evangelistic meeting.
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Camille taught
elementary school,
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utilizing her
recently earned bachelors
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degree in elementary
education, so the year
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passed quickly, then
it was back to Andrews
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for Jim's seminary training.
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After a year of
intensive theological
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training, Jim
was asked to join Don
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Jacobsen, professor
of evangelism in the
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summer as a singing
evangelist for a camp
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in Racine, Wisconsin,
a fantastic experience
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with Camille playing the piano.
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The couple stayed
with a team as they
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joined Bruce Johnson in Wooster,
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Massachusetts. It
was during this campaign
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that James William
Gilley junior still
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known to this day
by his siblings as
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Jimmy arrived into the world.
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No couple could
have been more excited.
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After the Wooster
meeting Jim held one
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more evangelist
campaign as a song
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director and
visitation coordinator with
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H.M.S Richards Jr. in Fitchburg,
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Massachusetts,
and when that campaign
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finished Jim,
Camille and Jimmy moved to
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Connecticut where
Jim was the Pastor of
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the Plainville, Meridian
and Middletown churches.
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Jim immediately
started his ministry
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in Plainville with
an evangelist series.
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His fruitful
campaign since June 1st,
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growth was fantastic
that year with Plainville
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and the church
membership doubled.
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The other
churches were growing at a
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healthy rate too
soon at the suggestion
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of Pastor
Richards. Jim was called by
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Elder Mills and
the committee to be the
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conference
evangelist. At only 25 years of
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age, he was the
youngest Adventist
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Conference
Evangelist in North America.
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As they began this
work, a new edition to
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the Gilley family
Maryann Catherine was born.
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In the next two and
half years the Gilleys
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conducted 25 full
scale evangelistic
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series in New England with David
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and Carol
Petersen. The Lord blessed
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immensely, and
their third child John
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Thurmon was welcomed by the
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whole family enthusiastically.
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Jim had often told
his church members that
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they had as much
time do soul-winning as he
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did, because of the
administrative tasks
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that a Pastor must
face. So shortly after John
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was born the Lord
gave Jim the chance
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to prove that he could
practice what he preached.
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Jim, Camille and their three
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children moved to Dallas.
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Purchasing an
established business
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from its aging
founders on credit,
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Jim obtained Davis
and Stanton advertising.
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It was a business
he enjoyed and felt
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very natural running.
He also was encouraged
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by his old Bible
teacher M.D. Louis
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and several others to
run for political office.
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So he ran for the
US congress in the 24th
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district in Texas.
Jim lost the race for
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congress but made
hundreds of friends in
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contacts that were invaluable,
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and the best part
was that he was forever
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cured of the political bug.
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Shortly after the
political campaign
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their fourth child
Amy Camille was born.
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My brother Jimmy
once said, without
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her we are pretty dull family.
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Hi, I am Kelly
Summers, Texas Humane Society.
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Texas Humane Society is a place
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where all kinds of
retarded children and
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mental children
go. It's kind of like a
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school that teaches
them, tries to teach
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them how to eat
correctly and talk
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correctly,
please everyone donate
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money to the
Texas Humane Society.
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You will get
rewarded by feeling great
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inside, you will get
rewarded by almighty.
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Jim had now been so
involved in business
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that there was not
enough time left for
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evangelistic
ministry but the Lord soon
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opened a new door
with a business that
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was also a
ministry. Missionary tape and
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equipment supply was
the business of selling
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sound and video
equipment as well as
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cassette tapes to
churches, schools and
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ministries by
catalog. The Lord opened the
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door for him to
buy it and this company
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became the base
from which nearly 50
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evangelistic
series were conducted with
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no cost to the
conference, and where many
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hundreds were
baptized. In 1983, they moved
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to Egan near
Keene and built a home
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where they lived
for next 10 years.
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The children all
attended school in
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Keene where each
of them eventually
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graduated from South Western
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Adventist
University. Camille was a full
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time mother and her children
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received all of her attention.
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Many vacations
were spent together and
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they all looked back
on these years fondly.
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After the Lord,
the family has always
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come first for Jim and Camille.
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But as the
children entered academy and
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were more involved in
their school activities,
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it became more
difficult for them to
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go to evangelist
meetings night after
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night, soon Jim
realized that family
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togetherness was
ministry of the first order.
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So he accepted the
invitation to be senior
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Pastor of the Arlington, Texas
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church with a salary
of $1 a year, for the
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next seven years
the Lord blessed their
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ministry
abundantly and the church grew
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from under 300
members to over 1,000, and
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opportunity to
sell missionary tape to
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cam audio cam and
Jim joined Coleman
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Steward with L. H.
Coleman as a partner
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and
vice-president. His new position
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allowed him to have
more time for Pastoral
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ministry as well as
being able to consult
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with other
Adventist churches concerning
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Stewardship. Jim's mother died
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unexpectedly with a stroke.
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Amy left for
school at Monterey Bay
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Academy and Jim
began a new position
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with Coleman all the same month.
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Major changes some
times come quickly.
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Shortly after, the
call came to go to the
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Ukraine for
evangelistic meetings.
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Communism was still in power and
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Dniprodzerzhynsk
was the spot that
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General
Conference chose for Jim and
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Camille as well as Max and Betty
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Trevino to
minister. None of them had
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heard of the city
of two and half million
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people, but this
became the first of 8
00:13:31.54\00:13:34.16
major evangelistic
series in the Ukraine,
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in the cities of
Dniprodzerzhynsk,
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Odessa, Kharkiv, and
Kiev. Over 10,000 people
00:13:39.90\00:13:45.42
were baptized into
God's remnant church.
00:13:45.45\00:13:47.91
At least 26 new churches were
00:13:48.43\00:13:50.64
organized. John and
Amy joined the first
00:13:50.67\00:13:53.31
Odessa meeting
during Christmas and
00:13:53.34\00:13:55.49
John organized
the boys from America
00:13:55.52\00:13:57.69
and returned the
next summer baptizing
00:13:58.07\00:13:59.82
nearly a hundred
people. Kirk and Maryann
00:13:59.85\00:14:02.83
were part of the
team in Kharkiv and Kirk
00:14:02.86\00:14:05.83
simultaneously conducted a video
00:14:05.86\00:14:07.83
campaign in the river
that resulted in 50 baptisms.
00:14:07.86\00:14:11.74
The Arkansas-Louisiana
Conference was the
00:14:12.66\00:14:14.77
next stop as Jim
surprised by being
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elected as conference president.
00:14:16.92\00:14:18.37
After a very
rocky beginning with the
00:14:18.98\00:14:20.61
conference
committee, things moved out and
00:14:20.64\00:14:23.72
the next seven 7
years were some of the
00:14:23.75\00:14:25.62
most fruitful
ministry he and Camille have
00:14:25.65\00:14:27.68
ever enjoyed the
ministries and staff
00:14:27.71\00:14:30.41
truly joined with
the membership to make
00:14:30.44\00:14:32.43
VST and Arkansas-
Louisiana beautiful.
00:14:32.46\00:14:35.15
Then came a day
they will never forget,
00:14:36.77\00:14:38.99
it was January 5th
2001 and their next
00:14:39.87\00:14:43.07
door neighbor
accidentally started a
00:14:43.10\00:14:44.77
minor fire which was
easily extinguished by
00:14:44.80\00:14:47.04
the fire
department. He was taken to the
00:14:47.07\00:14:49.78
hospital but no
fireman stayed it on.
00:14:49.81\00:14:51.73
So the fire
quickly rekindled itself,
00:14:52.41\00:14:54.50
and this time not
only wiped out that town
00:14:55.00\00:14:57.12
house but also the
Gilley's home and the
00:14:57.15\00:14:59.38
town house next
door. When Don Schneider
00:14:59.41\00:15:02.38
called Jim shortly
afterwards to be vice
00:15:02.41\00:15:04.60
president of the
North American division.
00:15:04.63\00:15:06.41
Jim kiddingly
told him it would be a
00:15:07.28\00:15:09.13
cheap move since
the fire wiped them out.
00:15:09.16\00:15:12.16
Their 5 years at
the North American
00:15:13.85\00:15:15.55
division were
wonderful. Working with Don
00:15:15.58\00:15:18.31
Schneider and
staff was a pleasure.
00:15:18.34\00:15:20.17
But the travel was extensive.
00:15:20.73\00:15:22.26
When the Texas
conference asked Jim
00:15:23.16\00:15:24.99
to come back to
old home church as
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Pastor after much
prayer they accepted.
00:15:26.73\00:15:29.78
Dallas became the
couple's home for the
00:15:31.09\00:15:32.63
next two years,
and the attendance
00:15:32.66\00:15:35.10
increased dramatically.
Jim and Camille honestly
00:15:35.13\00:15:38.68
thought there
would be there until the
00:15:38.71\00:15:39.85
Lord's return.
One reason was because
00:15:39.88\00:15:42.96
Amy was living
there then Amy met Ethan
00:15:42.99\00:15:45.82
Bearman. They
were married and moved
00:15:45.85\00:15:48.20
away from Dallas.
This made it a little
00:15:48.23\00:15:50.93
easier when the
call for Danny Shelton,
00:15:50.96\00:15:52.95
and the 3ABN board
came out of the blue
00:15:52.98\00:15:55.20
to come to that
ministry as their president.
00:15:55.23\00:15:57.30
There were a number
of indicators at the
00:15:57.75\00:15:59.58
Lord was in this
call, and soon Jim and
00:15:59.61\00:16:02.56
Camille were convinced that this
00:16:02.59\00:16:04.14
was where the Lord wanted them.
00:16:04.17\00:16:05.41
They had never had
any doubts that this
00:16:06.05\00:16:08.44
was truth. Since
then John has met and
00:16:08.47\00:16:11.90
married Jerica McQueeney in Napa
00:16:11.93\00:16:13.68
Carlifornia
where they now live and
00:16:13.71\00:16:15.73
where John teaches at
Pacific Union College camp.
00:16:15.76\00:16:18.33
Maryann and Kirk
continue in Dyersburg
00:16:19.44\00:16:21.65
where Kirk is in
the flooring business.
00:16:21.68\00:16:23.47
They have five
children, Katie, Ben,
00:16:24.04\00:16:25.99
Camille, Venice, and Carrie.
00:16:26.02\00:16:27.72
Jim Junior lives in
the Orlando area with
00:16:28.46\00:16:30.77
Chloe, Camille
and Jimmy the third.
00:16:30.80\00:16:32.82
Amy and Ethan live
in Soquel, California
00:16:33.64\00:16:35.82
with Levi James.
And after spending
00:16:35.85\00:16:39.16
50 beautiful
years together Jim and
00:16:39.46\00:16:42.59
Camille have no
plans for the future other
00:16:42.62\00:16:45.59
than to follow
wherever the Lord leads.
00:16:45.62\00:16:48.23
Well, I tell you. Could have cut
00:16:58.72\00:17:00.65
that off a little bit there.
00:17:00.68\00:17:01.99
That's a pretty
long kiss for a loving
00:17:02.67\00:17:04.26
couple you know.
That was a still.
00:17:04.29\00:17:06.25
I think they
stretched. Yeah. There's no
00:17:06.28\00:17:08.24
question, that's
true. As I look at that,
00:17:08.27\00:17:11.96
you know, we made that for or
00:17:12.58\00:17:14.22
Joe did for our
family. But I never thought
00:17:14.25\00:17:16.42
this would go around the world.
00:17:16.45\00:17:17.62
No, particularly
not the bath tub shot,
00:17:17.65\00:17:19.45
right, right, that
has been so, I certainly
00:17:19.48\00:17:20.79
didn't think about
that one, but the other
00:17:20.82\00:17:22.99
thing is that
probably they need a little
00:17:23.02\00:17:26.04
explanation, we had
a video camera and our
00:17:26.07\00:17:30.02
children would
often do little plays and
00:17:30.05\00:17:32.36
things like
that, particularly Amy.
00:17:32.39\00:17:34.11
Amy. And Amy would kind of write
00:17:34.14\00:17:36.13
her own
commercials, right, and the one
00:17:36.16\00:17:39.03
where you saw where
she's sitting down and
00:17:39.06\00:17:40.89
she's talking
about the Humane Society
00:17:40.92\00:17:42.85
that was Amy's own creation.
00:17:43.78\00:17:45.44
One of the other
kids were running the
00:17:45.47\00:17:46.77
camera probably
Maryann. Or maybe Amy set it
00:17:46.80\00:17:49.39
up for herself
and, she could have, so.
00:17:49.42\00:17:51.62
And she could have
and she made dozens
00:17:51.65\00:17:55.09
of commercials like that,
and she is a little child.
00:17:55.12\00:17:58.36
It's pretty hard to
get it on camera now,
00:17:59.21\00:18:00.92
right, but at that
time it was very easy.
00:18:00.95\00:18:04.50
As we looked at
that and we reminisced
00:18:05.00\00:18:06.57
over so many of those times.
00:18:06.60\00:18:09.10
They were exciting. They were.
00:18:09.26\00:18:11.01
But you know
nothing more exciting then
00:18:11.23\00:18:12.78
being here right
now. That's right.
00:18:12.81\00:18:14.39
I love our life
right now. We really do,
00:18:14.42\00:18:16.46
we enjoy being at
3ABN. We believe in this
00:18:16.49\00:18:18.95
ministry, more so
than any ministry that
00:18:18.98\00:18:22.98
we've ever been
involved with and
00:18:23.01\00:18:24.85
we've always loved
all those ministries
00:18:24.88\00:18:27.23
probably nothing
more exciting than
00:18:27.26\00:18:29.13
going to Ukraine,
but on the other hand now
00:18:29.49\00:18:33.21
we're able to reach
out, not only Ukraine,
00:18:33.24\00:18:35.49
Russia but also
around the world with
00:18:35.52\00:18:38.79
3ABN, and I want to
assure those who are
00:18:38.82\00:18:42.33
watching 3ABN that
if the Lord lays on
00:18:42.36\00:18:46.42
your heart to
support this ministry you are
00:18:46.45\00:18:49.86
supporting the very
best work possible for
00:18:49.89\00:18:54.17
presenting the
gospel of Jesus Christ to a
00:18:54.62\00:18:57.75
dying world. Well,
Camille on that day
00:18:57.78\00:19:00.94
we had also
reception that took place right
00:19:00.97\00:19:04.06
after that this
particular series that you just
00:19:04.09\00:19:07.78
saw there was played
at the end of vespers
00:19:07.81\00:19:10.80
and then we all went
over to the hall where
00:19:11.10\00:19:13.86
they had the reception for us.
00:19:13.89\00:19:16.45
My sister-in-law Judy
did all the decorating
00:19:16.48\00:19:19.63
and if you noticed
there are lot of vases
00:19:19.66\00:19:23.81
of roses and I
noticed, they were I thought
00:19:23.84\00:19:27.38
why are these
little bouquets of roses
00:19:27.41\00:19:29.99
everywhere and I had
to be told later that
00:19:30.02\00:19:33.89
they were 50
bouquets of roses that Jim had
00:19:33.92\00:19:39.21
gotten for me.
And so we gave one to
00:19:39.24\00:19:41.79
everybody that
came, they took a bouquet
00:19:41.82\00:19:43.75
home with them and
what was left we took
00:19:43.90\00:19:46.19
to nursing home
so. It was not wasted.
00:19:46.22\00:19:49.58
No flower went, was
not used, let me put it
00:19:49.61\00:19:53.06
that way. Well, listen right now
00:19:53.09\00:19:55.06
let's take a
look that reception.
00:19:55.09\00:19:56.58
We always went to
people's house after
00:20:58.09\00:21:00.19
Sabbath morning and
we go to their houses
00:21:00.47\00:21:03.79
for lunch and things like that.
00:21:03.82\00:21:05.43
This is a place
and a nice big home.
00:21:05.46\00:21:08.20
They had us over
there, a lot of guests
00:21:08.23\00:21:10.13
there at the house
and there is this huge
00:21:10.16\00:21:14.31
table, a big white
table cloth on it and
00:21:14.34\00:21:18.52
I said Pastor
Gille before you leave we
00:21:19.30\00:21:22.73
would like to have
you sign our tables
00:21:22.76\00:21:25.53
cloth and my dad
without hesitation
00:21:25.56\00:21:27.95
said, I'd be glad to,
he reaches at his pocket
00:21:27.98\00:21:30.39
pulls out a sharpy
and signs his name real
00:21:30.42\00:21:33.70
big on a table
cloth and before the lady
00:21:33.73\00:21:36.06
gets in oh, oh,
not that table cloth.
00:21:36.09\00:21:38.54
He brought out the others table.
00:21:40.05\00:21:41.98
There is a special
table. But he already signed
00:21:42.01\00:21:44.72
there, there best
table cloth that they used
00:21:44.75\00:21:47.24
for the serving of the dinners.
00:21:47.27\00:21:49.17
Yeah, that's right,
he's gonna buy him a new
00:21:51.49\00:21:53.21
table cloth. I
gave you a haircut.
00:21:53.24\00:21:54.97
I'll always
remember that, it was in our
00:22:43.33\00:22:44.98
kitchen and we
were sitting there and
00:22:45.01\00:22:48.72
I went down just
there and I gave you a hair
00:22:48.75\00:22:51.96
cut two days before our wedding.
00:22:51.99\00:22:54.04
I had so many
relatives that live in
00:24:02.70\00:24:04.69
that area, yeah,
so that what you saw
00:24:04.72\00:24:06.20
was mostly family and relatives.
00:24:06.23\00:24:08.87
Right and these
are Camille's relatives
00:24:09.47\00:24:11.81
and also some of
the church members there
00:24:11.84\00:24:13.51
in Dyersburg.
The doors were open,
00:24:13.54\00:24:15.90
we just said you
love to night we'll be
00:24:15.93\00:24:18.33
happy to have you
and as you mentioned
00:24:18.36\00:24:20.84
Judy Thurmon put
this together along
00:24:20.87\00:24:23.49
with her sister
Faye. Sister Faye Baker and
00:24:23.52\00:24:26.08
they were just
marvelous. They were, they can
00:24:26.11\00:24:28.73
do anything. And I
remember that, if you
00:24:28.76\00:24:30.76
want to look
good get Judy invited.
00:24:32.60\00:24:33.57
Yeah, and there
were a number of ladies
00:24:33.58\00:24:34.55
there that joined
in. Oh, yeah, some ladies
00:24:34.56\00:24:36.40
from the Dyersburg
church. They're very gracious,
00:24:36.43\00:24:40.67
very generous,
very.. Really very fine
00:24:40.70\00:24:42.99
people. Well,
listen we've got something
00:24:43.02\00:24:45.78
else that we would
like to share with you.
00:24:45.81\00:24:48.12
We had sometime,
you know, holidays
00:24:48.64\00:24:52.58
and food go
together. There was no question
00:24:52.94\00:24:55.37
about that, in fact
I always set a goal not
00:24:55.40\00:24:58.44
not gain a pound
between Thanksgiving and
00:24:58.47\00:25:01.40
New Year, and of
the last few years I've
00:25:01.43\00:25:04.00
always been able to
meet that goal if you
00:25:04.03\00:25:06.73
lose a pound or
two, you're even further
00:25:06.76\00:25:09.16
ahead. But our family
loves to gather in the
00:25:09.19\00:25:13.35
kitchen and recently
we did a segment with
00:25:13.38\00:25:16.75
Maryann and you and
Carrie when you were
00:25:16.78\00:25:21.88
doing, preparing
some holiday meals and
00:25:21.91\00:25:24.80
we're gonna look
at that right now.
00:25:24.83\00:25:26.24
Hello and welcome
to our 3ABN kitchen.
00:25:28.19\00:25:30.70
We are going to
share some of our holiday
00:25:31.28\00:25:33.33
recipes with you
and this is my daughter
00:25:33.36\00:25:35.81
Maryann who is going to be doing
00:25:35.84\00:25:37.47
most of it, and
I, my grand daughter
00:25:37.50\00:25:40.61
Carrie, who is
working on a holiday
00:25:40.64\00:25:42.20
craft and we're
enjoying a cup of
00:25:42.23\00:25:43.88
Wassail, wish you
could share with us.
00:25:43.91\00:25:46.27
It smells good and tastes good.
00:25:46.73\00:25:48.15
And the first
recipe we're going to do is
00:25:48.76\00:25:51.95
the Gluten-Free
Roast, and we will
00:25:51.98\00:25:53.57
explain to you why
it's Gluten-free and then.
00:25:53.60\00:25:56.87
It looks beautiful
and we're going to do a
00:25:57.57\00:25:59.95
cornbread dressing,
which is always very
00:25:59.98\00:26:02.58
popular we have to
have it in our family
00:26:02.61\00:26:04.68
for holiday meal.
Absolutely traditional.
00:26:04.71\00:26:07.57
It's kind of
interesting that you have a
00:26:08.90\00:26:10.39
Gluten-free holiday
but if you're from a
00:26:10.42\00:26:12.38
vegetarian family
like I am, so much of the
00:26:12.41\00:26:16.16
holiday involves
Gluten full products
00:26:16.19\00:26:20.25
and so when you
have family members like
00:26:20.28\00:26:22.61
we do that don't do
well with Gluten for
00:26:22.64\00:26:25.71
one reason or
another then you become very
00:26:25.74\00:26:28.23
creative and you
need to come up with other
00:26:28.26\00:26:30.78
things so that you
still have that traditional
00:26:30.81\00:26:33.07
feeling that you know at the
00:26:33.10\00:26:35.10
meal time at the
holidays. Something special that
00:26:35.13\00:26:38.01
you don't do all years
so. Right, let's just read
00:26:38.04\00:26:41.53
that recipe and
we'll go ahead and get
00:26:41.56\00:26:42.85
started on that one.
Okay, you're gonna need:
00:26:42.88\00:26:46.20
2 cups of soaked
soybeans. 2 cups water.
00:26:46.23\00:26:51.43
1/4 cup Bragg's Liquid Aminos.
00:26:52.49\00:26:55.41
1/4 cup olive oil
and that is optional.
00:26:56.79\00:26:59.79
3 to 4 tbsp. of
chicken style seasoning.
00:27:01.12\00:27:04.47
You could use McKay's or some
00:27:04.85\00:27:06.97
other that is gluten free.
00:27:07.00\00:27:08.41
4 tbsp. of
nutritional yeast flakes.
00:27:08.59\00:27:11.27
2 tbsp. onion
powder. 1 tsp. garlic powder.
00:27:12.16\00:27:16.60
1 to 2 tbsp. of Bakon Seasoning.
00:27:18.07\00:27:21.11
1 cup gluten free quick oats.
00:27:22.43\00:27:25.05
2 cups soy curls, chopped.
00:27:25.79\00:27:28.37
8 oz. mushrooms,
canned or fresh, chopped.
00:27:29.44\00:27:33.64
1/3 of cup tapioca flour.
00:27:34.34\00:27:36.68
1/3 of cup gluten free flour.
00:27:37.11\00:27:39.22
And 3 tbsp. of baking powder
00:27:40.36\00:27:42.80
which is aluminum
free. Okay, well, to get
00:27:42.83\00:27:47.15
started I am
going to start out with,
00:27:47.18\00:27:49.08
many of you
maybe aren't familiar,
00:27:49.88\00:27:51.30
but many of you are
I am sure with the soy
00:27:51.33\00:27:53.87
curls which is
just a soy bean product.
00:27:53.90\00:27:56.76
It has nothing taken
out, nothing out it so
00:27:57.13\00:28:00.30
it's just about as
natural you can get
00:28:00.33\00:28:01.99
for a meat
substitute. It's made from the
00:28:02.02\00:28:04.25
whole soy bean too,
it's not just soy flour.
00:28:04.28\00:28:07.33
Right, so that
mean you are getting the
00:28:07.36\00:28:08.55
fiber and all the
nutrition that in the
00:28:08.58\00:28:11.38
soy bean, so I am
going to start out by
00:28:11.41\00:28:14.16
chopping, it comes
in larger sizes and for
00:28:15.05\00:28:17.45
this recipe I want
it a little bit smaller,
00:28:17.48\00:28:19.64
so I'm just
gonna pulse this here.
00:28:23.81\00:28:25.39
That it gives it a
little cherry texture.
00:28:25.42\00:28:41.56
Yeah, it does. Get you to hold
00:28:41.59\00:28:44.33
that for me just a second. Yes.
00:28:44.36\00:28:45.52
Okay. And that's
dry and you have to
00:28:48.96\00:28:51.26
reconstitute it.
No, it is dry, yeah,
00:28:51.29\00:28:53.70
and we put enough
moisture in the recipe
00:28:53.73\00:28:57.26
so that it'll
reconstitute while it's cooking,
00:28:57.29\00:28:59.62
and now I am
going to chop mushrooms.
00:29:00.39\00:29:03.44
Can I do this in a blender or do
00:29:04.72\00:29:06.12
I need a food
processor. Well, you know,
00:29:06.15\00:29:10.11
while you can
hand chop mushroom,
00:29:10.14\00:29:11.97
you can hand chop
all these but when it
00:29:12.00\00:29:15.42
comes to blending the
soy beans in a minute,
00:29:15.45\00:29:17.21
you could do
that in a blender or
00:29:17.24\00:29:18.81
in a food
processor. Okay, we're just
00:29:18.84\00:29:21.72
gonna pulse
this, we don't want to
00:29:21.75\00:29:23.06
immolate them,
we don't make them
00:29:23.09\00:29:24.20
mushy, just chops
into smaller pieces,
00:29:24.23\00:29:27.58
we're gonna put
this in a bowl with the
00:29:48.79\00:29:51.63
soy curls, and just
to let you know too this
00:29:51.66\00:29:57.96
recipe can be tweet
to your own taste in a
00:29:57.99\00:30:03.23
many different
ways. There may be a
00:30:03.26\00:30:04.92
seasoning or
something that you like.
00:30:04.95\00:30:06.76
You can add it.
It's very forgiving
00:30:07.84\00:30:10.00
and you can just be
creative like you are,
00:30:10.03\00:30:13.44
and see if you can,
see if you can better it.
00:30:13.47\00:30:16.78
I've made this in a
lot of different ways and
00:30:16.81\00:30:18.29
everyone turns out
so, now I'm gonna chop
00:30:18.32\00:30:21.71
our soaked soybeans
and this is 2 cups after
00:30:21.74\00:30:25.52
it's been soaked. So we put our
00:30:25.55\00:30:28.62
soy beans in here.
You soak them overnight.
00:30:28.65\00:30:31.51
Yeah, overnight
or 8 hours is enough,
00:30:32.11\00:30:34.52
but usually we
just do that overnight.
00:30:34.55\00:30:37.02
I'm going to ahead and add all
00:30:37.81\00:30:39.67
our other liquid ingredients.
00:30:39.70\00:30:41.08
And that was with the Bragg's,
00:30:41.76\00:30:43.25
liquid Aminos and
olive oil and we're gonna..
00:30:43.28\00:30:53.51
You just want that creamy.
00:31:12.42\00:31:13.87
Yes, you want to get
it just a little creamy,
00:31:14.81\00:31:16.19
here but I'm
gonna add some more of
00:31:16.22\00:31:18.03
these ingredients
with the nutritional yeast
00:31:18.06\00:31:20.59
flakes and onion
powder, garlic powder,
00:31:20.62\00:31:27.07
Bakon seasoning.
I like that hickory
00:31:27.43\00:31:31.66
smoked flavor, and
smell, it smells so
00:31:31.69\00:31:34.54
yummy, okay, and
now we're gonna put
00:31:34.57\00:31:36.68
the McKay's
chicken style seasoning or
00:31:36.71\00:31:39.28
any chicken style
seasoning that you
00:31:39.31\00:31:40.94
like in there. We're gonna
00:31:40.97\00:31:45.09
blend it a little bit longer.
00:31:45.12\00:31:46.28
Okay, we got a nice
creamy mixture here.
00:32:05.63\00:32:11.40
Now if you want
it creamier you will
00:32:11.43\00:32:13.47
need to use a
blender otherwise, food
00:32:13.50\00:32:15.55
processor was gonna
leave a little bit of the
00:32:15.58\00:32:17.37
soybean chunks which
is a nice texture too.
00:32:18.00\00:32:20.25
But that's another thing for you
00:32:20.70\00:32:22.80
preference,
however, you would like it.
00:32:22.83\00:32:24.93
Now we're go ahead
and put the rest of the
00:32:25.55\00:32:28.60
dry ingredients in
the bowl, the quick oats,
00:32:28.63\00:32:31.74
the gluten free
quick oats and those are
00:32:31.77\00:32:33.86
available even at
you local grocery store.
00:32:33.89\00:32:36.27
So, there is a lot
of gluten-free products.
00:32:36.97\00:32:38.77
Lot of gluten- free products.
00:32:38.80\00:32:40.12
Available, this is a
all purpose gluten-free
00:32:40.15\00:32:43.09
flour that works
real nice and this is
00:32:43.12\00:32:48.36
tapioca flour which
will gives a crispiness
00:32:48.85\00:32:54.04
and it kind of
acts like a binder
00:32:54.64\00:32:56.27
too and it's, right.
I think it makes your
00:32:56.30\00:33:00.12
product a little
lighter in texture.
00:33:00.15\00:33:02.81
And then we've
got our aluminum free
00:33:03.69\00:33:05.50
baking powder. Yes,
you always use that.
00:33:05.53\00:33:08.40
Always aluminum free, yes.
00:33:08.81\00:33:10.39
Now I'm going to mix these up.
00:33:10.87\00:33:12.27
Carrie is just
working so hard over here on
00:33:18.30\00:33:20.32
this lemon this
is a holiday craft.
00:33:20.35\00:33:22.54
Carrie, what are you doing?
00:33:22.57\00:33:24.16
Are you putting
cloves sin lemon,
00:33:25.77\00:33:27.78
yeah, do you like the smell?
00:33:28.18\00:33:29.89
What's it smells
like? A cinnamon.
00:33:30.54\00:33:33.33
Cinnamon, it
smells spicy, doesn't it?
00:33:33.85\00:33:36.21
It's a nice
mixture. Well, you know why
00:33:36.24\00:33:38.05
Carrie is doing that
mom. I was probably not
00:33:38.08\00:33:40.92
much older than 6
which is Carrie's age.
00:33:40.95\00:33:44.83
When you had us
sit down at the kitchen
00:33:45.23\00:33:46.80
table and you had
oranges and cloves
00:33:46.83\00:33:49.58
and lemons and you
had us stick cloves in
00:33:49.88\00:33:52.96
them with some
ribbon. So, I thought you know
00:33:52.99\00:33:56.11
this would be nice
for Carrie to do, it stuck
00:33:56.14\00:33:58.83
out in my mind in
every holiday I think
00:33:58.86\00:34:00.89
about that. That
was fun, it was relaxing
00:34:00.92\00:34:03.53
to sit there and do
that, and we'll come
00:34:03.56\00:34:07.10
back and talk, tell
you how Carrie is doing,
00:34:07.13\00:34:08.77
right now I'm gonna
go ahead and mix all
00:34:08.80\00:34:11.73
this together
and pour our liquid.
00:34:11.76\00:34:15.13
And I'm gonna mix
this up really well.
00:34:31.55\00:34:33.72
Alright, we're gonna
put this in a sprayed
00:34:50.71\00:34:56.05
loaf pan. You want
to spray it really well.
00:34:56.40\00:34:58.52
Sometimes they are
stubborn coming out,
00:34:59.36\00:35:02.01
but if that
happens when you after you
00:35:03.25\00:35:05.23
bake it. Let it cool
a little bit in the pan
00:35:05.26\00:35:08.05
before you try to remove that.
00:35:08.08\00:35:09.08
Yeah, just that extra
moisture usually release it.
00:35:09.62\00:35:12.79
Okay, so we've
got. Boy, that's turned
00:35:13.52\00:35:15.22
out to be a big
loaf. Well, actually you
00:35:15.25\00:35:18.35
can do two loaves.
Okay. We're gonna pour this.
00:35:18.38\00:35:23.43
There are a lot of
good ingredients in there.
00:35:28.33\00:35:30.60
And how long do you bake this?
00:35:36.04\00:35:37.38
And we're gonna bake
this, you'll start out,
00:35:37.41\00:35:39.47
heat your oven really
hot at first about 400
00:35:39.50\00:35:42.42
degrees and then
bake it for about 15
00:35:42.45\00:35:45.27
minutes at 400
degrees and then at
00:35:45.30\00:35:49.62
about 15 minutes
turn it down to 350 and
00:35:49.65\00:35:52.15
then continue
baking for about 50 minutes
00:35:52.18\00:35:55.24
and you may even
want to bake longer
00:35:55.77\00:35:57.31
than that depending
it and it starts to get a
00:35:57.34\00:35:58.88
little too brown on
top covered with some
00:35:58.91\00:36:01.39
foil because you really want the
00:36:01.42\00:36:03.15
soybeans to get done,
otherwise it will have
00:36:03.18\00:36:05.82
a little bit of
bitter flavor 'cause you want
00:36:05.85\00:36:07.29
the soybean really
cooked well that's in there.
00:36:07.32\00:36:09.82
And that's how to
do it, that just is..
00:36:10.52\00:36:14.33
And so next
we've got the dressing.
00:36:15.44\00:36:18.49
For the gluten
free cornbread, this is
00:36:19.73\00:36:22.33
what you will need.
Okay, you're gonna need:
00:36:22.36\00:36:24.53
2 cups of cornmeal.
00:36:24.56\00:36:25.99
1 tbsp. aluminum
free baking powder.
00:36:26.71\00:36:29.55
1 tsp. of salt.
3 tbsp. olive oil.
00:36:30.30\00:36:33.53
And enough soy milk
to make a thin batter.
00:36:34.04\00:36:36.94
And then for the
gluten free cornbread
00:36:37.88\00:36:39.98
dressing, you're gonna need:
00:36:40.01\00:36:41.05
1 recipe of gluten
free cornbread, crumbled,
00:36:41.08\00:36:44.78
and day old is best.
Just let it, set out to dry.
00:36:45.36\00:36:48.77
1/4 of cup soy garden butter or
00:36:49.48\00:36:52.76
a soy butter substitute.
00:36:52.79\00:36:55.00
1 medium onion, diced.
4 stalks of celery, diced.
00:36:55.52\00:36:59.49
1 tbsp. sage, or to your taste.
00:37:00.11\00:37:03.78
1 cup of melody prettyman's
00:37:04.82\00:37:06.71
mushroom soup
recipe, which is this:
00:37:06.74\00:37:10.74
3/4 cup of raw cashews, rinsed.
00:37:11.27\00:37:14.77
1/4 cup of arrowroot
powder or cornstarch.
00:37:15.30\00:37:18.15
2 tbsp. onion powder. 1
tbsp. of salt, or to taste.
00:37:19.16\00:37:24.37
2 tbsp. of olive
oil. 1 lb. large package
00:37:25.03\00:37:29.29
fresh mushrooms, diced fine.
00:37:29.32\00:37:31.92
1 medium onion, diced
fine. 4 cups of water.
00:37:32.24\00:37:36.16
Okay, now we're
doing the dressing
00:37:37.17\00:37:38.83
and I've already
crumbled a lot of this,
00:37:38.86\00:37:40.99
it was cornbread and
this is kind of noisy
00:37:41.02\00:37:44.91
that just keep
your fingers clean.
00:37:44.94\00:37:46.54
You want it pretty
small pieces and so
00:37:47.09\00:37:50.57
I'm just gonna
dump this in, you know,
00:37:50.60\00:37:53.35
that's a fun job
for the kids to do too.
00:37:53.38\00:37:55.47
That's a great job
for the kids, you can give
00:37:55.50\00:37:57.21
them a plastic bag
and just say squeeze
00:37:57.24\00:37:59.27
ahead and it's
fun when we do our
00:37:59.30\00:38:01.30
holiday meals.
We usually have your
00:38:01.33\00:38:04.02
grandmother, my
mother and yours..
00:38:04.05\00:38:06.19
Just 90, 94, almost
95 and still cooking.
00:38:06.22\00:38:10.34
Still cooking. She usually makes
00:38:10.37\00:38:12.10
the gravy and then
we have Amy, I wish she
00:38:12.13\00:38:14.96
could be here but
she is in California and
00:38:14.99\00:38:16.80
you're close and
then Jerica, always
00:38:16.83\00:38:19.51
decorates the
table, but usually we make
00:38:19.54\00:38:24.82
two dressing. I'm
just gonna dump this in.
00:38:24.85\00:38:28.02
These celery and
onions have already
00:38:28.85\00:38:31.76
been sauteed and
just earth balance is what
00:38:31.79\00:38:36.82
I use, earth
balance butter probably what
00:38:36.85\00:38:39.67
2 or 3 tablespoons
and then the Melody's
00:38:39.70\00:38:45.54
wonderful mushroom
soup and you use that
00:38:45.57\00:38:49.11
in place of the mushroom soup
00:38:49.14\00:38:50.64
concentrate that she
would get in the store.
00:38:50.67\00:38:52.32
That's right, that
if you ever, have you
00:38:52.35\00:38:54.75
ever read the
ingredients I tell you I read
00:38:54.78\00:38:57.03
ingredients on
everything and it's got
00:38:57.06\00:38:59.10
to be good stuff or
I just won't buy it,
00:38:59.13\00:39:00.94
but especially now
with your dad I watch
00:39:01.32\00:39:04.27
for gluten and there
is gluten hidden in so
00:39:04.30\00:39:07.28
many little things.
So I always watch gluten
00:39:07.31\00:39:10.22
but so many
products now will have even
00:39:10.25\00:39:13.38
seasonings will say gluten free.
00:39:13.59\00:39:15.39
Now this is boiling
water and you really
00:39:15.82\00:39:18.31
need it hot. Oh,
sage, we do need sage,
00:39:18.34\00:39:22.44
that's what makes
it and your Aunt Ruby
00:39:22.47\00:39:25.63
used to always put
thyme in her dressing,
00:39:25.66\00:39:27.99
so they taste
similar you also you can do
00:39:28.92\00:39:31.20
both or you can just do one.
00:39:31.23\00:39:32.63
We are just doing the
sage but this is boiling
00:39:33.26\00:39:35.90
water and you want to
put enough so it's not
00:39:35.93\00:39:38.08
soupy but moist.
Every year we say
00:39:38.11\00:39:44.07
well, is the dressing
too moist this year or
00:39:44.10\00:39:47.16
is it too dry. Then
if it's too dry we just
00:39:47.19\00:39:49.59
pile on more
gravy. And it really is a
00:39:49.62\00:39:53.06
pretty dry to be
too dry because we're a
00:39:53.40\00:39:55.23
drying dressing kind of family.
00:39:55.26\00:39:57.27
Right. And I was
telling mom that you
00:39:57.30\00:39:59.70
see that well,
on commercials on TV
00:39:59.73\00:40:01.99
talking about
moist dressing and we're
00:40:02.02\00:40:05.15
thinking oh, why
do they want it moist.
00:40:05.18\00:40:07.13
We like it dry. And we are not a
00:40:08.32\00:40:10.76
bread dressing family.
We always do cornbread.
00:40:10.79\00:40:14.31
I never know that
there was such a thing
00:40:14.34\00:40:15.32
as bread dressing
till I got married.
00:40:15.35\00:40:16.75
And I wouldn't pack
this down just kind of
00:40:17.22\00:40:20.02
toss it lightly and
then I think we are ready
00:40:20.05\00:40:22.44
to pour it, did
you spray the pan that
00:40:22.47\00:40:25.73
I always saying
that we do make two
00:40:25.76\00:40:28.27
dressing usually.
One with onions and
00:40:28.30\00:40:30.83
one without, because
John just will not eat
00:40:30.86\00:40:35.99
onions but we have some
others that won't either.
00:40:36.02\00:40:38.53
So this is pretty
moist not wet but moist
00:40:39.27\00:40:42.70
enough and you want
to bake it until it's
00:40:42.73\00:40:45.59
really nice, brown on the top.
00:40:45.62\00:40:47.64
It usually takes about an hour.
00:40:47.67\00:40:49.25
Well of course we
usually do pans that
00:40:49.28\00:40:51.34
are really big, it
takes a long time and a
00:40:51.37\00:40:55.54
longer time
anyway. And that just about
00:40:55.57\00:41:00.81
does it. And this on
top of the dressing, in
00:41:00.84\00:41:05.18
fact, we have people
in our family that put
00:41:05.21\00:41:07.61
gravy on
everything. We have mash
00:41:07.64\00:41:12.25
potatoes, in fact,
what would we, well it's
00:41:12.28\00:41:15.48
our typical menu.
Typical we've got our
00:41:15.51\00:41:19.81
holiday roast. We
have the cornbread
00:41:19.84\00:41:22.88
dressing, sweet
potato casserole,
00:41:22.91\00:41:25.73
the giblet free gravy which is.
00:41:29.08\00:41:31.44
Right now, used to
in fact some of, if you
00:41:31.47\00:41:35.77
eat eggs you could
put, the original gravy
00:41:35.80\00:41:38.33
had boiled eggs so
we've just substituted
00:41:38.36\00:41:40.58
mushrooms and
soy curls, fine small
00:41:40.61\00:41:44.87
pieces, with
McKay's chicken seasoning
00:41:44.90\00:41:47.54
and also and then
water and all these
00:41:47.57\00:41:51.10
recipes even if we
don't mentioned them,
00:41:51.13\00:41:53.19
they will be on
the 3ABN website and so
00:41:53.22\00:41:56.56
if there is any that
you would like just go in
00:41:56.59\00:41:58.35
there and print
them up it's that easy.
00:41:58.38\00:41:59.58
Right. But then
we also have your
00:41:59.61\00:42:01.99
famous Waldorf
salad which would..
00:42:02.02\00:42:04.99
Which your
husband loves the most.
00:42:05.02\00:42:07.97
Yeah, love well,
when I got married mom
00:42:08.00\00:42:09.37
had increased that
by double because my
00:42:09.40\00:42:12.61
husband inhales it
but.. And it only gets
00:42:12.64\00:42:15.83
better. You have any
leftover for breakfast
00:42:15.86\00:42:18.50
or whatever,
it's just gets better.
00:42:18.53\00:42:20.25
It's yummy, but
then you also like
00:42:20.29\00:42:22.52
to do English peas.
Right. English peas.
00:42:22.55\00:42:25.98
And you also do those
little pearled onions.
00:42:26.01\00:42:29.32
Sometimes some years we've done
00:42:29.35\00:42:30.90
them and I like
them, but. Oh, one of the
00:42:30.93\00:42:33.42
wonderful recipe
too that you do the
00:42:33.45\00:42:35.00
cranberry orange
relish. Relish. I used to use it
00:42:35.03\00:42:38.87
where you have the
crank that you hooked on the.
00:42:39.26\00:42:41.36
Yes, I remember.
And right, well, I lost
00:42:41.39\00:42:44.99
that somewhere
along the line in one of
00:42:45.02\00:42:46.96
these moves, yes, a grinder.
00:42:46.99\00:42:48.46
So now that you
have a food processor.
00:42:49.05\00:42:52.00
You just put it in
the food processor and
00:42:52.27\00:42:54.18
you do your
cranberries first, a bag of
00:42:54.21\00:42:56.39
cranberries and I
don't know if the recipe.
00:42:56.42\00:42:58.02
The recipes are
gonna be on the website.
00:42:58.05\00:43:00.62
And one orange,
thin chucks and some
00:43:00.65\00:43:04.80
Florida crystals and some nuts.
00:43:05.41\00:43:08.08
like the nuts in
it, we're kind of nutty.
00:43:08.30\00:43:10.43
Yeah, we are so
much, that's for sure.
00:43:10.61\00:43:12.28
So I think that
just about does it, oh,
00:43:12.60\00:43:14.78
did you say the sweet potatoes.
00:43:14.81\00:43:16.62
We have sweet potato
casserole, we always do.
00:43:16.80\00:43:19.72
Sometimes the kids
like the marshmallows on
00:43:20.11\00:43:23.28
top instead of the,
the nut topping which
00:43:23.31\00:43:27.16
Maryann like the nut topping.
00:43:27.19\00:43:28.69
Yeah, you can get
vegan marshmallows.
00:43:28.72\00:43:30.49
Right, they were,
back out, they were
00:43:30.52\00:43:32.37
not available for
a while but you can
00:43:32.40\00:43:34.10
still, you can get them now.
00:43:34.13\00:43:35.27
Yeah, well, let back
to Carrie, what Carrie is
00:43:35.73\00:43:38.37
working on. She is
sticking cloves in a
00:43:38.40\00:43:41.49
lemon, if you can see
she is using a fork to
00:43:41.52\00:43:45.46
make the hole, so
that the cloves will go in
00:43:45.49\00:43:47.96
easily and she's
been working so hard.
00:43:47.99\00:43:50.36
She's about got
that whole lemon covered
00:43:50.61\00:43:52.43
and then we'll set
that in a bowl in the
00:43:53.44\00:43:55.53
kitchen and it has
a very nice and ripe.
00:43:55.56\00:43:57.66
If you wanted to,
you could attach a ribbon
00:43:58.34\00:44:00.61
and hang it
too. I think that's..
00:44:00.64\00:44:01.90
Yeah, it's like a popery ball
00:44:01.93\00:44:04.67
And does that dry that way?
00:44:04.70\00:44:05.97
You know it last a
long time I remember
00:44:06.70\00:44:08.92
when you did the
oranges it last a long time.
00:44:08.95\00:44:11.18
Yeah, I remember
seeing that in your closet
00:44:11.21\00:44:12.82
For a long time so,
whatever you have in
00:44:13.40\00:44:16.28
the holiday though
if you just have peanut
00:44:16.31\00:44:18.26
butter sandwiches
you will have a wonderful
00:44:18.29\00:44:20.46
time if you have
those you love with you.
00:44:20.49\00:44:22.27
But if you want to
try recipes we hope that
00:44:23.00\00:44:25.27
you enjoy them and
we wish you our love
00:44:25.30\00:44:29.67
and best for the holidays.
00:44:29.70\00:44:31.99
Well, I can testify
that, that was a very
00:44:33.80\00:44:36.83
good meal because
that is the exact menu
00:44:36.86\00:44:39.40
that we had for
our thanksgiving meal
00:44:39.43\00:44:41.64
and we'll probably
repeat it a couple of
00:44:41.86\00:44:44.25
times during the
holidays, and it was
00:44:44.28\00:44:46.45
very good. I don't know why we
00:44:46.48\00:44:47.45
don't have it more
often but it's usually
00:44:47.46\00:44:48.75
just Thanksgiving and Christmas.
00:44:48.78\00:44:50.09
Yeah. But it's something that we
00:44:50.12\00:44:52.02
really enjoy. It
does but, it was just very
00:44:52.05\00:44:55.21
well prepared and
of course we always
00:44:55.24\00:44:57.68
enjoy being together
and that makes it taste
00:44:57.71\00:45:00.47
even better when
the loved ones come
00:45:00.50\00:45:02.26
together and eat a
meal and enjoy that time.
00:45:02.29\00:45:05.29
Well, listen
we've got the two grand
00:45:05.95\00:45:08.84
daughters here.
This is Carrie Krueger
00:45:08.87\00:45:11.86
and Venice
Krueger. They're the two
00:45:12.50\00:45:15.00
youngest children
of our daughter Maryann
00:45:15.03\00:45:17.77
and son-in-law
Kirk. And Camille,
00:45:17.80\00:45:21.19
they had a very
special Christmas a
00:45:21.22\00:45:23.12
year ago during
the holiday season.
00:45:23.15\00:45:25.42
What did you kids
do? We went to Navajo
00:45:25.78\00:45:29.99
renovation and we
handed out food baskets.
00:45:30.02\00:45:34.43
Alright. Well, they,
their families, their
00:45:34.46\00:45:38.41
aunt Carla and
her husband Less and
00:45:38.99\00:45:41.87
their children
Matthew, Mark, Mary and
00:45:41.90\00:45:45.68
Megan decided these
two families that they
00:45:45.71\00:45:50.34
would do something for
00:45:50.37\00:45:51.69
somebody else for Christmas.
00:45:51.72\00:45:53.47
So they decided
to go to a Navajo
00:45:54.18\00:45:57.77
reservation which
is run by Kelly and
00:45:57.80\00:46:00.66
Allen Fowler. And
this Christmas was
00:46:00.69\00:46:05.50
so special and in
fact, all of the kids,
00:46:05.53\00:46:09.27
I don't know if
you even did you give
00:46:09.30\00:46:10.98
gifts to each
other? No. No, you didn't.
00:46:11.01\00:46:14.82
You only gave gifts
to the Navajo children.
00:46:14.85\00:46:18.86
But they said, that
this what did you say?
00:46:18.89\00:46:21.58
Was your best.. Christmas ever.
00:46:22.56\00:46:24.71
Isn't that
special? Well when they
00:46:25.59\00:46:28.90
made the baskets, food baskets.
00:46:30.64\00:46:32.91
You didn't do the
gifts but you did food
00:46:33.71\00:46:35.87
baskets and you took
them to the different houses.
00:46:35.90\00:46:40.33
Tell me about
that? When we bought food
00:46:41.20\00:46:44.70
baskets to all the
houses and then they
00:46:44.73\00:46:50.09
said, like they're really happy.
00:46:51.27\00:46:52.89
And when you
would go to these houses
00:46:53.98\00:46:55.79
what did you say
outside most of the houses?
00:46:55.82\00:46:58.30
We saw a lot of
dogs. Were they big fat
00:46:58.33\00:47:02.18
healthy dog? No,
they weren't healthy.
00:47:02.21\00:47:04.22
What do you
thing those dogs ate?
00:47:06.18\00:47:07.72
Probably rats.
What did they ate?
00:47:09.27\00:47:11.48
Anything. Just whatever they
00:47:11.51\00:47:12.84
could find, and you
went to one house that
00:47:12.87\00:47:16.57
had a lot of dogs and it had..
00:47:16.60\00:47:18.77
Puppies,
puppies, lots of puppies.
00:47:19.09\00:47:21.10
What kind of puppies?
Was there one special puppy?
00:47:21.88\00:47:24.96
Yeah, it was the
youngest. It was the youngest,
00:47:25.55\00:47:29.51
and the smallest and
what did you do Venice?
00:47:29.54\00:47:33.09
She carried a puppy
a lot and the next day
00:47:33.93\00:47:40.65
Camille, my sister
said let's raise a little
00:47:41.44\00:47:49.52
money to buy dog food for dogs.
00:47:49.55\00:47:52.31
So everyone put some money
00:47:53.20\00:47:56.28
in and then they used it to.
00:47:56.31\00:48:00.45
To get the dogs food. Yeah.
00:48:00.48\00:48:02.38
So the dogs had a Christmas.
00:48:02.90\00:48:04.58
They had dog
food, which is a treat,
00:48:05.21\00:48:07.29
wasn't it? They
had never had dog food
00:48:07.32\00:48:09.61
and Camille raised
the money and bought
00:48:10.13\00:48:12.27
bags of dog
food, but when you were
00:48:12.30\00:48:16.03
delivering the baskets you
00:48:16.06\00:48:17.47
saw one special little puppy.
00:48:17.50\00:48:20.13
Yeah, and she was the
littlest and so I told
00:48:21.50\00:48:28.81
my dad, dad I'm
gonna take this puppy
00:48:28.84\00:48:31.86
and then he holded
it for a while and then
00:48:32.31\00:48:39.36
we had to go to
next house and we went to
00:48:39.39\00:48:41.96
the next house
and then my dad went
00:48:41.99\00:48:46.37
away and then
'cause there was a couple
00:48:46.40\00:48:49.26
truck to carry everyone and then
00:48:49.29\00:48:52.85
they came back
and then they had the
00:48:54.17\00:48:57.89
puppy with them
and Ben my brother got
00:48:58.60\00:49:03.55
the puppy for me and
I got in the truck with
00:49:03.58\00:49:08.06
them and then
pulled out the puppy and
00:49:08.09\00:49:12.30
said, Merry
Christmas. Merry Christmas and
00:49:12.33\00:49:15.29
what did you do?
Did you just cry you're
00:49:15.32\00:49:18.55
like so excited, so happy.
00:49:18.58\00:49:20.91
Alright. And you took that puppy
00:49:20.94\00:49:23.48
home with you, didn't
you? Yes. What did you
00:49:23.51\00:49:25.94
carry? What did Venice name him?
00:49:26.31\00:49:28.03
Nizhoni. What is
it? It means beautiful.
00:49:28.06\00:49:30.35
It means
beautiful, Nizhoni, it was a
00:49:30.38\00:49:35.02
Navajo name and
it means beautiful,
00:49:35.05\00:49:37.79
beautiful. She
looked like a little bear.
00:49:37.82\00:49:41.06
Well, what's Nizhoni doing now?
00:49:41.86\00:49:43.51
She's at home and she
is going to have puppies.
00:49:44.06\00:49:47.12
She is going to have puppies.
00:49:47.15\00:49:48.86
Oh, my. What are you going to do
00:49:49.81\00:49:51.76
with those puppies?
Probably give them away
00:49:51.79\00:49:54.78
Give them away. Do you know what
00:49:54.81\00:49:57.46
your mom said?
She said, if everybody
00:49:57.49\00:50:00.70
wants to donate a $1000 to 3ABN,
00:50:00.73\00:50:03.64
she'll send them a puppy. Yeah.
00:50:03.87\00:50:05.51
Free shipping. Well,
that's a great story and
00:50:05.54\00:50:10.83
we really know they
enjoyed that and we're
00:50:11.11\00:50:14.83
gonna enjoy something
right now that you are
00:50:14.86\00:50:18.73
are gonna join with
us and enjoy, the Legacy
00:50:19.01\00:50:22.15
Five was with us
and know that very same
00:50:22.18\00:50:24.73
set where we began
the program tonight
00:50:24.76\00:50:27.57
and they sang a beautiful
00:50:28.06\00:50:29.90
Christmas song "Oh Holy Night."
00:50:29.93\00:50:32.11
Truly He taught us
to love one another;
00:52:39.26\00:52:47.45
His law is love and
His Gospel is peace.
00:52:47.61\00:52:55.98
Chains shall He break
for the slave is our brother
00:52:56.61\00:53:04.76
And in His Name all
oppression shall cease.
00:53:05.13\00:53:13.13
Sweet hymns of joy in
grateful chorus raise we,
00:53:13.72\00:53:21.22
Let all within us
praise His holy Name!
00:53:21.59\00:53:29.09
Christ is the Lord!
Praise his name forever,
00:53:29.12\00:53:44.16
His power and
glory ever more proclaim!
00:53:44.59\00:53:59.61
His power and
glory ever more proclaim!
00:54:00.02\00:54:15.34
Fall on your knees! O
hear the angels' voices!
00:54:16.13\00:54:30.55
O night divine, O
night when Christ was born;
00:54:30.99\00:54:45.89
O night divine, O
night, O night divine.
00:54:45.92\00:55:10.01
O night divine,
night divine, O holy night!
00:55:14.62\00:55:33.38
Well, that was a
great, great song, wasn't it?
00:55:36.23\00:55:39.09
Beautiful. And Legacy Five
00:55:39.12\00:55:41.05
came here as our
guest and recorded,
00:55:41.08\00:55:43.77
a number songs and
we really appreciated
00:55:44.30\00:55:46.65
their music and we're so happy
00:55:46.68\00:55:49.02
they could be with
us. Well, we're so happy
00:55:49.05\00:55:50.89
that you could be
with us tonight and just
00:55:50.92\00:55:54.56
share as we've
kind gone along the
00:55:54.59\00:55:57.10
highway of time,
looks back at some
00:55:57.54\00:56:00.22
things in our lives
and looked back on this
00:56:00.25\00:56:02.40
year and talked
about some of the things
00:56:02.43\00:56:05.75
that have meant so
much to our family.
00:56:05.78\00:56:07.88
But the things that
means the most to our
00:56:08.52\00:56:10.22
family is Jesus
Christ. We've built our whole
00:56:10.25\00:56:14.17
life around him,
it's giving our lives to
00:56:14.20\00:56:17.27
him and committing
to the life of sacrifice
00:56:17.30\00:56:21.25
that he has asked us
to live and it's really
00:56:21.28\00:56:23.95
been no sacrifice at
all to go into present the
00:56:23.98\00:56:27.26
gospel wherever
we've been invited to
00:56:27.29\00:56:30.04
do such. Also to
share with our own family
00:56:30.07\00:56:33.27
and that's been
greatest part because
00:56:33.65\00:56:35.55
heaven will not be heaven
00:56:35.95\00:56:37.24
without all our
family being there.
00:56:37.86\00:56:40.60
Absolutely. And God
has blessed us, Camille.
00:56:40.63\00:56:44.25
We are so blessed
and I just thank the Lord
00:56:44.28\00:56:46.08
every day many
times for our children,
00:56:46.11\00:56:49.40
our grand
children, they're healthy and
00:56:49.63\00:56:51.67
happy and we are truly blessed.
00:56:51.70\00:56:55.38
Yes, we are and your
parents who are still
00:56:55.41\00:56:58.47
with us in their
90's. Well, thanks for
00:56:58.50\00:57:00.95
joining us and we
just argue you to keep on,
00:57:00.98\00:57:03.88
keeping on with
Jesus Christ our Lord,
00:57:03.91\00:57:06.54
our God and our Savior.
00:57:06.57\00:57:08.54