Welcome back to the
second hour of every
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exciting program about
health, about not only just
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health now, we're not
talking about health cause,
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we're talking about
the benefits of making a
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decision in your life to
you turn and that we offer
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this book, if you just
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hour, you missed the
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and but we have an
additional guest for the
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second hour Carla
Roberts will allow you to meet
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in just a few moments,
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And I'll tell you
Understanding Preventing and
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Reversing Lifestyle
Diseases. Remember lifestyle
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not something that's
hereditary as much as it's
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about the decisions you
make about things to put
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in your body. And now if
you were here for the first
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hour we did not have
music, but we're not gonna have
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that be our story all
night long. We have someone
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day you're going to
thoroughly enjoy we always
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like to surprise Dr. Hans
Diehl something you may not
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know about him, if you
joining us for the first
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time and since why if Lillie
Pan Diehl, she doesn't play
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the piano she owns the
piano, so sit back as she
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blesses with this wonderful song
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"Joyful, joyful, We Adore Thee."
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Wow! I have Goosebumps.
Wow! And you are married,
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yeah, to Lillie Pan that
is amazing. Something you may
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not know is the
accompaniment that you
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heard in background
she orchestrate of that,
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Lillie Pan orchestrated
that and compose that so she
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was playing to her
orchestrated music,
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that's right, and it's
amazing I tell, I have to,
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I have to take a breath
and so if I took too long to
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come in those of you
listening on the radio that
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was not a mistake or by
the radio station now we
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just trying to
regain my composer.
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"Joyful, joyful, We
Adore Thee." Thank you, so much
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for getting us ready for
the second hour of the program
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about how you can turn
your life around, but before
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we go further I would like
to introduce our additional
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guest for the second
hour of the program Carla
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Roberts, good to
have you here Carla.
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Good morning, good evening.
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And you're from
Warroad is that in Minnesota,
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Minnesota tell us about Warroad.
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Well, it's a small
community just a few miles from
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the Canadian Border
and we have, we have been
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called a village in the
past because we're small,
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but it's a great community
that have open arms to new
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programs like Chip Wow!
And also you have a Chip
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on your shoulder right
there. Yes, I do I'm very
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proud to wear that. I'm
a Chipper. I'm part of the
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Alumni Group and a
health facility the program the
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Thief River Facility.
Well, the only thing that you're
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still in Thief River is
a bad health. And you, you,
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you still the bad health
and replaced with good health,
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right? Right.
Because of some amazing terms
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Warroad Thief River, is
there any other thing that's
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associated with
that was up there?
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Well, I nearby town
is called Crookston. Wow!
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So, but I will tell you,
you guys have survived some
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wonderful terrain, but the
beauty of what, where you're
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living is the Chip Program
and what I like about this
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you're both associated
together, Marilyne tell us
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how? Well, a gentleman
by the name of Dean Hamlin
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first learned about
Chip by going and buying some
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products at a mill
called Natural Way Mills.
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And he was introduced to
the idea there he called me
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and talked with me and
said, you know, could you
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come and do our program,
but we were looking at a
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distance of over 90
miles and considering that the
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Chip Program is
16 classes as long.
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I'm thinking I'm a
woman with a family and I told
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them it is just too far,
I'm sorry. Dean didn't stop
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there. He went back to
his place of employment to a
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group called Health
Builders and it was there
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that Carla Roberts heard
about it. And Carla is not
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one to just take know
very easily and she emailed me,
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we talked by telephone
and she even came to visit
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me on the soccer field
when I took her daughter the 90
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some miles to go play
soccer and it was on the edge of
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that soccer field as a
sweaty little bodies were
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running around us and our
soccer balls were resuming
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past our heads that
Carla said, I, I told her again
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I said, I'm, I'm sorry the
distance is just prohibited
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for me to be any fact
of teacher and mom at the
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same time. And she
said, well what about Distance
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Education? And I didn't
know about Distance Education,
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but I was out for a real
journey of finding out about
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it. So, we did some
digging and some research and
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it wasn't too long be
for, we were hooked together
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via interactive TV Carla
on her end, we were and our
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end Thief River Falls and
it's been a really wonderful
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relationship doing the
Distance Education thing I
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feel like I have gained
a really precious friend.
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Wow! That is amazing.
And more than one precious
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friend girl the
entire Alumni Group out there
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really, really special.
And tell us about that Carla
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I mean how do you do a
Chip Program and Distance
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Learning, tell us
about that experience?
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Distance Learning is
using interactive television
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and we, we are able to
see each other, we're able
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to talk to Marilyne, if
our class has a questions,
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medical questions, she
can answer it there on the
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television and we
watched Dr. Hans Diehl via DVD.
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Okay. And it's, it's
just powerful to be able to
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reached out the communities
they don't have any access
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to people like Marilyne, I
don't like, I don't like to
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hear the word "No"
and. Carla it's a good thing
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in this case. I mean
there are many communities like
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our small town Warroad
that want to learn health
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benefits and the best way
that's possible and it's like
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being in doctor's office
we have taught a community
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so much and we have
long ways to go, but we're
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getting that. Now, it's
not possible yet to do taste
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testing by Distance
Learning. Now, and that's where
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the energy and sparkle
of Carla she is really the
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driving for us behind
what happens with food and
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also that little extra
personal touch with her
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group up there, but she
works really hard and she
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has the motivation and the
desire to see her community
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changed. So, hats off
to you Carla. Thank you.
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Wow! It's an, you know,
we, we want to really point
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out that he who have
people that are investing
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themselves in the
improvement of health on the
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community level, they
are doing this strictly as
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volunteer. I mean this is
a special gift and we just
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want to acknowledge that,
there is some three to four
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hundred more of these
volunteers group all over
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country that we train in
the Chip Program and trained
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certified Chip leaders and
these people then you know,
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deliver this kind of
a program you have some
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help with DVD set or
made a little bit too but,
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it's really the
personal touch the practical
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application of the
principles how do you
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prepare a healthy breakfast,
how do you do a good supper,
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how, what do you do for
thanksgiving, right these
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are, there was a better
question, yes, yes. And how
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do you get into a
walking program you know and
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not just doing it forth
two weeks, but staying with the
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program, the accommodated
structure and surrounding
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people and serve like
a warm emotional womb,
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so they can grow at
their own speed, that's a part
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group. Yeah, without
feeling that I have to do
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this, no see you can do
it, we help you, we have all
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grown throughout ourselves
and it becomes easier week
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after week after week
after week and your taste
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that's began to
adjust, isn't that right? Yes,
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or so, so. And you know,
you know the story of Tom
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in your town there you
know, Tom told us I didn't
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like these kind of
things and look what happened to
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him, right? Now, he is
becoming the, the poster
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child of a Thief River
Falls, isn't that about right?
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That's about right and
I'm glad you brought up
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the issue of staff
because I would like to show a
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story of a very special
staff member, his name is
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Scott Russell and Scott
was only 32 years old when
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he first became exposed
to Chip he visited our Chip
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both at the fare and it
was there he saw a DVD that
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showed what a fatty
meal can do to your blood and
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he started thinking
about his health and he had
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someone very special
in his life and we have a
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picture of that
someone and wisely Scott's wife
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said, you know, Scott I
think you should do Chip
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for your son. There you
have a picture Scott and
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his son Carob here.
Well, to Scott's credit he
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listened to his wife, in
her mind she is thinking,
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umm, he has got some
kind of bad eating habits
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and he is putting down a
little bit of weight and she
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was concerned about
him, but she said do this for
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your son. So, here is
young Scott coming into
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the program, feeling
like okay we can do this,
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but he was shocked he
found out that his cholesterol
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was up; blood pressure
was creeping up already at
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his young age. He did
not realize he was having
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health issues, but that
caught his attention he took
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out a membership in an
exercise place and he and
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his son just had a ball,
they get on the elliptical
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and raise each other and
it became not just a quest
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for health, but it became
a bonding time, okay so it
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was a really beautiful
experience and Scott tells
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us that he didn't just
learn what to do, he learn the
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reasons why he should
be doing things in the
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Chip Program. And we
have another picture of Scott
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only it's not just Scott
and Carob we have his beautiful
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wife Tiffany on there
and their new little baby
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daughter Olivia. So,
Scott is now doing this for his
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young family plus he is
faithfully on our Chip staff
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time after, time after,
time even the years when we
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have had three Chip classes
in a year that's giving up
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16 evenings times three
plus more to, to be in the
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Chip Program so this
man has helped himself by
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helping
hundreds of other people.
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And that's a very
important principle of the
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life, isn't it? I mean
you give and you get back.
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Matter of fact I heard this
thing I hope I get it right,
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it says, life is not
what you living is what you is
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based on what you give
back. Or something to that
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affect life is receiving,
living is giving something
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to that affect and, and
to simply put it together he
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not only saw the benefit
for himself, but for his son,
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his new son and for
his wife because what good
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would it be to have a
wonderful family, if you're
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around to enjoy them.
Exactly. Really wouldn't
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make a difference and
the other thing that I have
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learned about the Chip
Program and I'm hearing this
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was a begin to glean,
I'm a gleaner, is, is Chip
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teaches you how to
be a discerning sharper.
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Yes, and that's one
thing Scott said, he said we
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learned how to go
shopping, we learned things
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about eating out how to
make right choices there,
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he, he is gonna cook,
he, he can go and take care
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of the mill and a
Holsum Way whereas before our,
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that were not have been.
I think one other things to
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about Scott that amazes
me as I look at his story
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he was young, he will
felt in mortal, he didn't
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not know that he had
a need in his life and I
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wonder how many young
people are in the same boat.
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Atherosclerosis does
not need to necessarily wait
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until the middle years or
the later years of life to
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sudden, am I right
with that Dr. Diehl?
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Yeah, we have see
this now in ten year olds,
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twelve years old and
narrowing of the coronary
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arteries already beginning
so and now beginning to
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think of coronary artery
disease, which is response
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for every third defend
this country, begin to think
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about this disease not as
a disease of the geriatric
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set the order the dignified
people, but it's really a
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pediatric disease it
begins and some even now point
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out it actually can
begin in the womb depending on
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how a mother eats. So,
this is really now a very
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progressive disease
that begins with the time of
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conception problem.
It also as something else
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to teaches you about
water, sunlight, and hold
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some food, it's just
to show you how you right
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on the knob on the nose
who has been talks about,
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how is impacting our
society not just as an older
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age, but a younger age
one of the major television
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that brought for
children I will mention the,
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the actual network,
but they brought out there
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programming for 3 to 4
hours one day during the
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time of the day the
children are most likely to be
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at home watching this
children's program and not
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3ABN, but and they
said, they encouraged by
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announcing this to have
all the children start to go
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outside and play, which
is something that's almost
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the lost exercise in
America. We think of all
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the video games that keep
you connected to the inside
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of our house, they don't
even open the windows and
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children are become
a carriage potatoes,
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small potatoes like
that growing up to be big
00:19:59.33\00:20:04.20
potatoes and so there
is a need to began to make
00:20:04.27\00:20:07.05
a difference in the
lifestyle and if, if I'm
00:20:07.08\00:20:08.87
thinking about it correctly
Scott also had a decrease
00:20:09.00\00:20:11.63
in his cholesterol. Yes,
he did and he dropped his
00:20:11.75\00:20:14.94
cholesterol almost 25
percent, so that was a big
00:20:15.19\00:20:20.19
drop and his, his LDL
cholesterol were low normal
00:20:20.49\00:20:24.50
at 30 percent. You know,
just to reinforce this as
00:20:24.53\00:20:28.91
a nurse you know,
you know, medication can
00:20:28.94\00:20:32.17
bring cholesterol
that was down too, yes,
00:20:32.35\00:20:34.41
but 20, 30 something's
40 percent, but here you
00:20:34.44\00:20:37.41
see a person there
within 30 days because just
00:20:37.53\00:20:41.24
making some simple
lifestyle changes how to
00:20:41.48\00:20:44.64
eat and drink and so on,
brings cholesterol down to
00:20:44.84\00:20:47.77
the point, the
medications no longer necessary,
00:20:47.90\00:20:50.73
right no more side effects,
no more expenditures for
00:20:51.48\00:20:55.92
a medication, no more
to worry about it possible
00:20:55.97\00:20:59.89
liver problems, right?
He was really excited about
00:21:00.91\00:21:04.31
his results and I'm just
gonna brag on him a little
00:21:04.38\00:21:07.98
bit more about when
he decided to take class,
00:21:08.01\00:21:11.05
he didn't just come and
take it alone, he also got
00:21:11.57\00:21:16.29
his parents talked into
taking it, so now we have
00:21:16.48\00:21:19.41
a family network and
they tell me that get in
00:21:19.44\00:21:22.91
together for special
occasion is really a lot of
00:21:23.00\00:21:28.31
fun because they are
doing it together and of course
00:21:28.54\00:21:30.97
his wife is really
supportive of this whole
00:21:31.13\00:21:33.89
thing and she has learned
vicariously through Scott,
00:21:34.02\00:21:36.72
so it's, it's a wonderful
story. You know, that's a
00:21:37.26\00:21:40.75
very important point he
have cross generation or change.
00:21:40.78\00:21:45.02
Right. Isn't it? And you
also see that the lifestyle
00:21:45.39\00:21:48.68
is being part of a social
unit, this is so important
00:21:48.71\00:21:52.89
you know, if only let
say one person in the family
00:21:53.41\00:21:56.66
goes to the program
to become so convicted we
00:21:56.75\00:21:59.52
need to do this, right,
because real support I mean
00:21:59.66\00:22:02.31
you actually, you actually
bring dissension to a family
00:22:02.40\00:22:05.92
instead of bringing unity
and, and in this case what
00:22:06.30\00:22:09.19
a wonderful idea and that
all need to bring Scott and
00:22:09.29\00:22:12.10
his kids and wife into
it. The bonding that you're
00:22:12.38\00:22:15.30
talked about, but also
now his parents are coming
00:22:15.42\00:22:18.27
in, so when they have
their special dinners it's
00:22:18.50\00:22:21.92
easy, isn't it? We're on
the same page. That's right.
00:22:21.95\00:22:24.98
We all want to be
healthy, we want to be around.
00:22:25.01\00:22:26.62
That's right. Now, now
Carla I want to get back to
00:22:26.99\00:22:29.29
you for a brief moment
because you're not only
00:22:29.43\00:22:30.87
personal that helps
facility that your programs,
00:22:31.17\00:22:33.23
but you're also a recipient
a student of the program,
00:22:33.75\00:22:36.46
tell us about that I
mean what were got you excited
00:22:36.54\00:22:39.75
about wanting to use
that lifestyle or even adapted
00:22:39.88\00:22:43.63
that lifestyle. My
husband side of the family has
00:22:43.66\00:22:48.50
a history of a lot of
medicine and we just didn't
00:22:48.56\00:22:52.75
want to grow all the
medicine and my side of the
00:22:52.86\00:22:55.83
family my mother had a
stroke and it was so scary
00:22:55.95\00:23:00.13
to see people what we
love so dearly go through
00:23:00.27\00:23:03.55
several health
problems I mean heart attacks,
00:23:04.62\00:23:07.52
cholesterol you name
it high blood pressure
00:23:07.62\00:23:10.22
everybody was seem to be
just finding the part all
00:23:11.01\00:23:13.95
around us. Almost like
his hereditary, Yes, but I
00:23:14.02\00:23:16.86
didn't like that, and
didn't like hearing hereditary
00:23:17.02\00:23:19.78
because I felt there is
not a hereditary then just
00:23:19.88\00:23:22.95
what's in our genes,
alright, I, I just felt there
00:23:24.17\00:23:26.18
was small to it. And when
we did our conference calls
00:23:26.25\00:23:30.34
and I learned more about
Chip that was very excited
00:23:30.40\00:23:33.52
to bring it to Warroad.
And I wanted to learn more,
00:23:33.55\00:23:36.49
I didn't have any
problems, my husband didn't have
00:23:36.89\00:23:39.97
any problems, no at
least bring anything we did,
00:23:40.03\00:23:42.76
okay we didn't have
any high blood pressure
00:23:43.60\00:23:45.55
or anything yet in
our family and but we knew
00:23:45.58\00:23:48.61
everyone else in our
family did. Okay, many people
00:23:48.73\00:23:51.33
I mean brothers,
sisters you know, lot of obesity
00:23:51.70\00:23:54.38
or lot of issues
common western diseases.
00:23:54.41\00:23:58.44
So, we took the
Chip Program together.
00:23:59.24\00:24:01.69
I asked him if he
wanted to do it, he came back a
00:24:01.79\00:24:04.32
week later and said
sure, I think there might be
00:24:04.45\00:24:06.93
something in it for
me, so. Okay, so that's,
00:24:07.05\00:24:11.24
so the benefit it was
not just for you learning how
00:24:11.34\00:24:13.68
to be a facilitated,
but look at a more healthy
00:24:13.76\00:24:16.36
family, make a change
within your own family
00:24:16.57\00:24:18.73
circle. Yes, okay.
Now, John we have a short
00:24:19.00\00:24:24.68
video of a lady who
took the class in Warroad,
00:24:24.91\00:24:28.99
Kathy Mosier is her
name and we would like to
00:24:29.35\00:24:32.58
take a moment to
look at that video now,
00:24:33.49\00:24:35.33
she has a compelling
story to tell us from Warroad.
00:24:35.41\00:24:37.84
Arlight, let's do
that. Yeah, I heard about the
00:24:37.87\00:24:41.82
Chip Program when I
was listening to the radio.
00:24:41.93\00:24:44.07
Marilyne was talking
about the upcoming Chip
00:24:44.62\00:24:46.49
classes and a gentleman
had shared the positive
00:24:46.60\00:24:49.27
results he has had with
the program, I came home
00:24:49.52\00:24:51.99
and told my husband
about it and we felt maybe
00:24:52.08\00:24:54.48
I could benefit from it.
During for that I have back
00:24:54.63\00:24:57.80
surgery that resulted
in damage to nerves in my
00:24:58.01\00:25:00.49
legs. I was not permitted
to start therapy for three
00:25:00.70\00:25:03.60
months when I was
using a walker. When I did
00:25:03.70\00:25:06.91
started therapy, I'm
like three times a week and I
00:25:07.24\00:25:10.16
get an additional
five hours a day at home.
00:25:10.23\00:25:12.41
Nearly after a year ago,
I was still need a cane to
00:25:13.18\00:25:16.85
walk. Otherwise I
found I was in good health,
00:25:16.98\00:25:19.76
how could I not be.
For over ten years I have
00:25:20.25\00:25:22.50
worked in nutrition
and taken ongoing classes.
00:25:22.65\00:25:25.24
At home I had always
cut the disable fats,
00:25:25.69\00:25:27.96
often the meat, I
skinned the chicken I never
00:25:28.51\00:25:31.35
fried anything and I
seldom ever eat a fast-food
00:25:31.57\00:25:35.79
place. We always make
sure we had calcium in the
00:25:35.91\00:25:38.60
form of milk or cheese.
We both find out for the
00:25:38.83\00:25:41.64
Chip Program. We had
our Lab done and started
00:25:41.75\00:25:43.98
classes, those classes
were real life, so much for me
00:25:44.10\00:25:47.66
thinking that we have
been eating healthy and
00:25:47.76\00:25:50.24
when the results from my
Lab came in it, proved it.
00:25:50.27\00:25:52.99
My blood pressure
was a 148/80 and I was
00:25:53.60\00:25:57.00
shocked to learn with
my cholesterol was 270,
00:25:57.09\00:25:59.80
my LDL was a 184 or
over, I never dunk I have
00:26:00.06\00:26:04.27
those kind of
numbers, I remember praying,
00:26:04.36\00:26:06.99
Lord I hope it's not
too late to correct this.
00:26:07.40\00:26:10.00
I could just in
vision stroke with an already
00:26:10.24\00:26:12.35
bad leg. We had no
problem falling the jump
00:26:12.48\00:26:15.51
start eating program,
I felt very energized and
00:26:15.67\00:26:18.74
can turn ten minute to
learn to taking the classes.
00:26:19.01\00:26:21.90
A month after we
started, the results from my
00:26:22.35\00:26:24.96
lab were
astonishing. I had dropped 95
00:26:25.07\00:26:27.79
cholesterol points and
my leg was stronger and
00:26:28.03\00:26:30.81
I no longer required a
cane to walk. I continued
00:26:30.92\00:26:35.13
to eat a plant based
high fiber diet. When I have
00:26:35.25\00:26:39.04
been with the program
about a year I made an
00:26:39.10\00:26:41.37
appointment with my
physician and have my
00:26:41.48\00:26:44.14
blood work done. My
blood pressure is now
00:26:44.27\00:26:46.46
113/79 and my total
cholesterol was 147,
00:26:46.80\00:26:51.65
in one year that's a drop
of 123 cholesterol points,
00:26:52.09\00:26:55.67
106 of those points in
bad cholesterol alone just
00:26:56.21\00:26:59.72
gone. I'm so thankful
that I have started the
00:27:00.09\00:27:03.07
Chip Program. I know
I can't be without it,
00:27:03.25\00:27:05.58
plus I have experienced
no bad side effects that
00:27:05.97\00:27:08.18
I would have taking
drugs, later on find the
00:27:08.37\00:27:10.75
money to buy those
drugs. At our house was used
00:27:10.80\00:27:14.03
to joke about the same,
praise the Lord and pass
00:27:14.07\00:27:16.71
the beans, but now it
has a whole new remaining.
00:27:16.77\00:27:19.43
That's an amazing
story Marilyne, I mean she
00:27:22.91\00:27:24.64
talked about
things that she did right.
00:27:24.76\00:27:27.14
Not many people do things right.
00:27:28.10\00:27:29.38
Tell us more about her.
00:27:30.08\00:27:31.05
Well, I think the thing
that caught Kathy's attention
00:27:31.76\00:27:35.25
was her problems
following her back surgery
00:27:35.81\00:27:39.61
and let's bring up the
picture right now Kathy
00:27:40.08\00:27:42.75
using the walker here
she is she has been a vibrant
00:27:43.69\00:27:46.73
women and she is
reduced now to having to use a
00:27:46.84\00:27:50.49
walker, in fact she was
so ill and, and they were
00:27:50.75\00:27:54.50
so concerned about
her damage leg that they
00:27:54.56\00:27:57.66
didn't later start
therapy for a like three months
00:27:57.75\00:28:00.72
after her surgery,
but then we will move onto
00:28:00.83\00:28:05.12
the next picture which
is Kathy has now progressed
00:28:05.18\00:28:10.22
to using the cane. Is
that heard in the blue thing?
00:28:10.61\00:28:12.88
Yes. Okay. She is
there with some friends,
00:28:13.33\00:28:17.12
I think that's her
family sorry Kathy, and she was
00:28:17.65\00:28:23.13
determined to try to
keep on working on this,
00:28:23.39\00:28:26.03
but the doctor
confirmed, look there has been
00:28:26.54\00:28:29.49
some peripheral
nerve damage Kathy,
00:28:29.58\00:28:32.25
and I'm sure her heart
sank when she got that news.
00:28:33.28\00:28:37.05
So, that was part of
the surgical complication
00:28:37.59\00:28:41.71
then right? Yes.
Some nerve damage which is
00:28:41.81\00:28:44.58
pretty much an
alterable, isn't that?
00:28:44.74\00:28:47.54
Well, it's certainly not
the kind of news you want
00:28:48.33\00:28:51.06
to hear, okay, and she
there was part of the time
00:28:51.09\00:28:55.83
she had to have her
leg lifted out of bed,
00:28:56.28\00:28:58.80
she would just
drag her leg and she was
00:28:59.34\00:29:02.88
experiencing great
difficulties, but then when
00:29:03.76\00:29:07.54
she heard the radio
program and it happened
00:29:07.74\00:29:11.28
to be Tom Karnowski.
Okay. And Kathy has now
00:29:11.44\00:29:16.05
met Tom because
she is watching 3ABN.
00:29:16.18\00:29:18.93
I'm very sure up in,
Warroad Minnesota, amen,
00:29:19.21\00:29:21.89
she is watching,
she wondered, wonderful,
00:29:21.92\00:29:23.72
who this man was that
she had heard on the radio.
00:29:23.95\00:29:26.81
So, here, here
we're introducing them,
00:29:27.05\00:29:29.58
but Kathy as you
heard need some significant
00:29:30.11\00:29:36.14
strides in her health
and she went after Chip with
00:29:36.79\00:29:41.30
a vengeance she gave it
her absolute best and to
00:29:41.60\00:29:46.18
drop 95 points in
cholesterol in one month,
00:29:46.33\00:29:50.48
it is amazing, an
amazing feat and let's just roll
00:29:51.57\00:29:55.15
in the last picture of
Kathy with her husband Dale.
00:29:55.29\00:29:58.93
There is no walker.
There is no cane. She is out
00:29:59.24\00:30:02.35
hoping through the
woods in northern Minnesota,
00:30:02.53\00:30:05.42
that's amazing, and
we're just really excited about
00:30:05.45\00:30:09.18
her story. You know,
the Chip Program is a
00:30:09.28\00:30:12.40
phenomenal almost at
this particular point,
00:30:12.65\00:30:14.45
when I say phenomena
let me just, let me change
00:30:14.53\00:30:16.59
that with. It's an
institution of it's own to
00:30:16.79\00:30:19.50
have more than 50,000
graduates and these are
00:30:19.53\00:30:23.82
with clinical results.
These are changes that have
00:30:24.32\00:30:26.57
coming to people's
lives, who have decided that
00:30:26.74\00:30:29.22
they can make you turn,
I don't know if you have
00:30:29.32\00:30:31.43
been following
those numbers, her numbers
00:30:31.58\00:30:33.07
were extremely high
and cholesterol and LDL's
00:30:33.13\00:30:36.81
that's the bad cholesterol.
Her blood pressure and
00:30:36.97\00:30:39.98
number of others here
that we talked about won't
00:30:40.22\00:30:42.02
go over those again,
but you can see that as
00:30:42.26\00:30:46.07
this Free Offer points
out you can begin it talks
00:30:46.21\00:30:49.37
about diabetes, it talks
about stroke, a hypertension
00:30:49.49\00:30:53.83
and a statement you
made in the very beginning,
00:30:54.31\00:30:55.89
say again about the
fork and the knife. Oh!
00:30:56.46\00:30:59.37
I'm gonna tell about the
Free Offer, yeah, that fork
00:31:00.42\00:31:02.04
and knife thing that was
good I, I just caught it.
00:31:02.11\00:31:04.32
Well, actually we have
underestimated that power
00:31:04.99\00:31:08.56
of the fork to help us
and there is a movie coming
00:31:09.25\00:31:12.24
out in commercial theatres
that is talking about two
00:31:12.35\00:31:17.85
prominent scientist
researchers carnations,
00:31:18.84\00:31:24.02
where it's actually
shown that you can reverse
00:31:24.47\00:31:26.66
heart disease, you can
do something about this
00:31:26.77\00:31:29.02
current diseases and
it's very interesting that one
00:31:29.14\00:31:33.02
of the two gentlemen is
the man on this that has
00:31:33.47\00:31:37.40
written this book here
Dr. Caldwell B. Esselstyn,
00:31:37.46\00:31:40.54
the former surgeon and
the film this commercial
00:31:40.65\00:31:44.96
film has been shown in
commercial theatres will
00:31:45.20\00:31:47.80
feature their lives and
the book title and the film
00:31:47.98\00:31:52.62
title is Forks Over
Knives, oh, which is refer to
00:31:52.85\00:31:57.97
the idea that sometimes
the diet the fork might be
00:31:58.00\00:32:01.89
more important and
more healthful than the
00:32:02.03\00:32:04.20
scalpel when it comes
to these chronic diseases.
00:32:04.61\00:32:07.21
And we sometimes like
the shortcut, we want to eat
00:32:08.26\00:32:10.30
way, we want to eat
and live the way we want to
00:32:10.37\00:32:12.52
live and do the things
we want to do without having
00:32:12.71\00:32:14.43
to go and make the
changes on the fork,
00:32:14.46\00:32:16.65
we want the knife to
make those changes and
00:32:17.27\00:32:19.43
so as you see, you
want to call on for your
00:32:19.48\00:32:21.77
Free Offer because
you may not know where
00:32:22.01\00:32:23.50
to begin and you may
not have immediate access
00:32:23.57\00:32:26.21
to the Chip program
for call us at 618-627-4651
00:32:26.24\00:32:30.30
or freeoffer@3abn.org
to get a copy and it's free
00:32:30.44\00:32:36.19
absolutely free call
and while we have these
00:32:36.40\00:32:38.89
available and it's a
wonderful book as a matter
00:32:39.00\00:32:42.26
of fact we can all
learn something and something
00:32:42.34\00:32:44.83
else I learned you
don't have to look the part to
00:32:44.91\00:32:48.18
necessary we have
something bad going on,
00:32:48.23\00:32:50.05
on the inside, am I correct?
00:32:50.28\00:32:51.87
That's correct, it is
the silent killer. And many
00:32:52.24\00:32:56.64
people they first sign
that they have about 40
00:32:56.70\00:33:01.64
percent, isn't it Hans?
40 percent of the individuals
00:33:01.85\00:33:04.39
don't realize they even
have Atherosclerosis tell
00:33:04.56\00:33:07.41
a heart attack takes
them that is too late.
00:33:07.51\00:33:10.00
You know, when I
talked to Tom, Tom said to
00:33:10.28\00:33:12.84
me, I felt great,
youthful, strong that kind of
00:33:12.93\00:33:18.46
be within wrong with
my heart, I said Tom you
00:33:18.60\00:33:22.34
cannot judge from the
outside you have to worry
00:33:22.37\00:33:26.48
about the engine
inside he said, tell me I said
00:33:26.52\00:33:30.21
you know, more people
rushed out, they really
00:33:30.41\00:33:33.98
rushed out that they
arteries are corroding then
00:33:34.33\00:33:38.27
then, people got wear
out, and often times we don't
00:33:38.65\00:33:42.57
understand that
Atherosclerosis is a
00:33:42.76\00:33:45.28
narrowing process of
all of the vessels in our
00:33:45.38\00:33:47.83
system, it's a disease
process that's begin early
00:33:48.02\00:33:51.25
and progresses unless
we turn to foist it off,
00:33:51.46\00:33:55.36
of these causes how
we eat, how we drink,
00:33:56.40\00:33:58.41
how we exercise, how
will you love, you know,
00:33:58.96\00:34:02.14
wearing seat belts
or just kind a lifestyle
00:34:02.81\00:34:04.84
issues. Marilyne I want
you to tell the story about
00:34:05.13\00:34:07.20
Mike Roberts,
it's an amazing story.
00:34:07.43\00:34:09.46
Well, it is an amazing
story, but I'm thinking
00:34:09.94\00:34:12.87
maybe his wife sitting
here we do a better job.
00:34:13.02\00:34:15.87
Would you like to
do that or I will do.
00:34:16.43\00:34:18.11
Hey, hey, I think
that were great segment,
00:34:18.14\00:34:20.31
that's a good, tells us
about your husband Mike.
00:34:20.85\00:34:23.40
Well, Mike volunteered
to take part in the program
00:34:23.89\00:34:26.27
which of course I was
a static because I was
00:34:26.79\00:34:28.38
gonna do it, whether
he did or not and to his
00:34:28.51\00:34:31.78
surprise when we
went to the lab work,
00:34:31.91\00:34:34.45
his stat showed a
cholesterol level of 200,
00:34:35.15\00:34:37.73
which most doctor
saying think that's okay,
00:34:38.17\00:34:40.93
but as you learning
the Chip Program that's
00:34:41.04\00:34:43.44
border line, it's not
okay. And he had a lot of
00:34:43.47\00:34:46.76
other numbers that
that came down and one and
00:34:47.00\00:34:49.66
particular his weight and
that's just the side effect
00:34:49.72\00:34:52.74
of being in the program,
but he went to the program
00:34:52.78\00:34:56.26
and he was very excited
about all the new foods,
00:34:56.35\00:34:58.64
it's a great place to
start if you don't cook
00:34:59.31\00:35:01.87
already because we
teach you step-by-step,
00:35:01.97\00:35:05.06
you get a tasted, if you
will like it, you go home
00:35:05.58\00:35:07.58
and go and try to make
it, it's very simple and
00:35:07.62\00:35:11.45
when he finished the
program his numbers went
00:35:11.48\00:35:13.56
down 28 percent, wow!
His cholesterol went all
00:35:13.68\00:35:16.26
the day down to a 144
and remains there today.
00:35:16.34\00:35:19.74
And although the way
just coming up slowly that's
00:35:20.52\00:35:22.83
okay, he is doing a
great job at maintaining
00:35:22.96\00:35:25.77
you know, sticky met
two miles a day of walking
00:35:26.54\00:35:29.17
and adding exercise
daily that's was important,
00:35:29.46\00:35:32.69
those numbers can come
down with small changes, so.
00:35:33.25\00:35:35.66
And a lot of times
people see those numbers
00:35:36.39\00:35:37.93
immediately as Tom
talk bout in a few weeks,
00:35:38.13\00:35:39.94
but you're talking
about two years later,
00:35:40.06\00:35:41.69
he still
maintained, doesn't it? Oh! Yes.
00:35:42.54\00:35:44.65
And you know, this is
a very save approach when
00:35:44.91\00:35:47.77
you aim for one to
maximum two pounds of extra
00:35:48.01\00:35:52.07
weight loss. You know,
we don't want people lose
00:35:52.26\00:35:54.71
at access weight too
fast, think about this,
00:35:54.93\00:35:57.49
if you lose weight too
fast you know, I mean just
00:35:58.08\00:36:00.21
think the skin has
to go somewhere, right?
00:36:00.44\00:36:02.42
am I right? It doesn't go
quickly. It gets sometimes,
00:36:03.29\00:36:06.30
so it can observe
itself properly. So, you don't
00:36:06.33\00:36:10.06
wanna took like a
bass hound, you know, yeah.
00:36:10.09\00:36:12.18
That's a good one. So,
so you see and so weight
00:36:14.78\00:36:16.85
loss like you're, you're
describing with your husband
00:36:17.08\00:36:19.49
in one pound a week,
yes, you know, this a great
00:36:19.54\00:36:22.42
way to go, if you
have 50 extra pounds,
00:36:22.56\00:36:24.56
figure comes off a year,
little come off gradually.
00:36:24.98\00:36:28.83
So, you still recognize
yourself, you know, from,
00:36:29.43\00:36:32.28
from, day-to-day today.
And we would like to roll
00:36:32.45\00:36:35.38
in now the picture of the
Roberts family, so that we
00:36:35.41\00:36:39.28
can see Mike and their
son and Carla and Mike said
00:36:39.45\00:36:45.83
to me he said, you know,
I used to pay my attention
00:36:46.15\00:36:49.02
to the ghastly and I put
in my track then if you will
00:36:49.58\00:36:52.33
like put in my own body,
that's right, and I suspected
00:36:52.37\00:36:55.23
that has changed
significantly. That's profound
00:36:55.26\00:36:57.76
we don't, we don't drive
our cars up to the diesel pump
00:36:57.94\00:37:00.87
to put it in our regular
gas tanks, we make sure and we
00:37:01.88\00:37:05.04
choose the octane very,
very carefully we look at
00:37:05.20\00:37:07.91
our oil deep stick and
make sure the types, which is
00:37:07.98\00:37:10.16
well but when it comes
to eating, well we know the
00:37:10.34\00:37:14.17
story we're telling the
story right now, but you
00:37:14.32\00:37:15.74
have some other amazing
stories. That's right and
00:37:15.83\00:37:18.65
we're going to have Carla
share Gloria Thomson's story
00:37:19.28\00:37:22.79
as well and we're going
to take to look at Gloria
00:37:22.97\00:37:25.99
Thomson from by
Baudette, Minnesota,
00:37:26.06\00:37:28.81
we have a picture of
her to put on the screen.
00:37:29.40\00:37:31.55
Gloria, I'm join the
Chip Program back in 2009 and
00:37:33.06\00:37:37.75
she was very excited
because she was part of the
00:37:38.32\00:37:40.23
health builders, which
is part of the company and
00:37:40.26\00:37:42.00
we work for it, so she just
part of our initial pilot on
00:37:42.14\00:37:45.87
program and she, she
wasn't able to get her
00:37:46.13\00:37:50.77
spouse on board with
the program so she took it
00:37:50.99\00:37:53.18
herself and she was
just amazed that how simple
00:37:53.29\00:37:59.23
it was and how she love
the food and I know we're
00:37:59.30\00:38:03.00
studying that's sound
like a broken record, but it's
00:38:03.19\00:38:04.96
true and tell you have
tried it, you just can't
00:38:05.11\00:38:07.46
really appreciate
the good taste in food.
00:38:07.68\00:38:09.43
Now, now Gloria was not
without willing out first
00:38:10.20\00:38:15.05
she was during at kind
of vengeance experiment and
00:38:15.63\00:38:17.86
just check it out and see
if this would be something
00:38:18.09\00:38:20.28
good for other people
and then when she heard that
00:38:20.42\00:38:23.86
it was going to impact
some of her eating habits
00:38:24.10\00:38:27.25
she said, I was disagreed
all about that for about
00:38:27.94\00:38:31.43
a week, until she started
tasting food and that made
00:38:31.54\00:38:38.81
the difference for her,
she realized this isn't like
00:38:38.84\00:38:42.37
going and chewing
on cardboard. That's an
00:38:42.57\00:38:45.00
important because card,
cardboard is not very tasty,
00:38:45.14\00:38:48.72
I shall I will say you
not tasty at all. So, so food
00:38:49.57\00:38:52.24
preparation is another
significant part of the
00:38:52.35\00:38:54.34
Chip Program, not just
saying change what you're
00:38:54.46\00:38:57.87
eating. So many people
think that, and I think that
00:38:57.90\00:38:59.78
Gloria and me have the
same perception is if I'm
00:38:59.81\00:39:03.08
going to be healthy,
it's got to be boredom. I have
00:39:03.11\00:39:05.78
got to just stuff it
down my thrown, no matter
00:39:05.92\00:39:08.05
whether I like it or
not, but that's not the case.
00:39:08.13\00:39:10.58
Absolutely not, we
are thrilled to be able to
00:39:11.21\00:39:16.30
present some newly
exciting recipes, but that
00:39:16.47\00:39:20.43
prove that comes as grown
you learn your taste bites
00:39:20.65\00:39:24.66
are reeducated to really
appreciate, oh, the suckling
00:39:24.83\00:39:29.99
goodness of a peach or a mango.
00:39:30.27\00:39:33.65
Oh! That's my
language mango, yes that's my.
00:39:34.34\00:39:37.13
Yes, so Gloria's
numbers started out at 279 for
00:39:37.16\00:39:42.98
cholesterol, she was
really off the charts.
00:39:43.19\00:39:46.42
Now, if 200 border, 270
is way, across the border.
00:39:46.54\00:39:50.85
I even she was pretty
shocked about that, yeah.
00:39:51.03\00:39:53.62
It was it, I
opened for her then right.
00:39:54.14\00:39:56.00
Yeah, she started on the
jump start, she, she want
00:39:56.03\00:39:59.31
to changes now and
she started right away.
00:39:59.34\00:40:02.02
And she got changes
95 points down here.
00:40:03.18\00:40:06.54
Is that right? That's
amazing, that's, that's a
00:40:06.57\00:40:09.87
huge drop. So, you said,
broken record, but I want
00:40:10.00\00:40:13.17
to go ahead and emphasize
this. A lot of times it's
00:40:13.24\00:40:15.96
my repetition that people
finally get it who would this
00:40:16.07\00:40:19.45
program is not about
facts and figures which is about
00:40:19.66\00:40:21.76
real people whose lives
have been revolutionized.
00:40:22.03\00:40:24.90
Now, if we look at
those numbers, if we just go
00:40:25.22\00:40:26.96
back and just the statistics
with you, the numbers may
00:40:27.18\00:40:30.32
blur, but if we think
about the lives that have been
00:40:30.47\00:40:33.61
changed the people
whose we could have Tom
00:40:33.70\00:40:37.15
could have had a
funeral on a long time ago.
00:40:37.95\00:40:39.52
All the takes for person
who is renting heavy machine
00:40:39.77\00:40:42.24
and we lifting heavy
weights with at 100 percent
00:40:42.27\00:40:44.96
blockage 98 and 99,
98, 95, and 90 percent
00:40:45.11\00:40:49.40
blockage we could have
been telling Tom's story
00:40:49.46\00:40:52.38
about how Tom died
from a terrible diet,
00:40:52.50\00:40:55.22
but we were able to
show you tonight and what
00:40:55.48\00:40:57.33
we're saying in this
program is not just all the
00:40:57.42\00:40:59.54
facts and figures and
stats which are widely important
00:40:59.69\00:41:02.58
to understand, but those
fact and figures and stats
00:41:02.73\00:41:05.47
are connected to
individuals who could be in
00:41:05.50\00:41:09.05
a different category
altogether, yeah, died at
00:41:09.10\00:41:11.45
33, died at 40, died at
49, died and left the family
00:41:11.67\00:41:16.08
of behind died and left
the widow, but we're telling
00:41:16.11\00:41:19.27
the story about
people who by simple methods,
00:41:19.30\00:41:21.86
but by a decision, you
turn have made an impact in
00:41:22.67\00:41:26.69
their lives and their family
is excited about that I'm,
00:41:26.72\00:41:29.84
I'm sure you're excited
that your husband able to
00:41:29.95\00:41:31.41
changing in his life.
Oh! Yes, we so badly don't
00:41:31.49\00:41:33.74
want to grow all the
medicine, we, we really want
00:41:33.87\00:41:36.69
to have a long life
without popping pills,
00:41:36.73\00:41:39.58
that's right, and
we're, we're headed down that
00:41:40.05\00:41:41.55
road I mean I feel like
about two years, but it's a
00:41:41.61\00:41:45.06
beginning for us and
every time we teach the
00:41:45.12\00:41:48.28
Chip class it just
gets more exciting.
00:41:48.41\00:41:50.49
So, when, when you talk
about it could have been
00:41:52.59\00:41:57.53
Tom who met and I'm
timely death I would like to
00:41:58.17\00:42:02.51
to just do right now
into another story, may I do
00:42:02.55\00:42:05.85
that? Sure, go ahead and ahead.
00:42:06.08\00:42:07.05
We're gonna take a
look at the Becky and Paul
00:42:07.87\00:42:11.66
Warroad, we have a photo
of them be for Chip class
00:42:11.96\00:42:16.41
and Becky herself
whereas had been told by the
00:42:17.05\00:42:22.50
doctor Becky in six
months you will have your
00:42:22.86\00:42:27.89
first stroke and in a
year you will have your first
00:42:28.11\00:42:32.54
heart attack. Now,
this was not a stroke or a
00:42:32.77\00:42:36.20
heart attack, she was
told this would be your first
00:42:36.58\00:42:40.16
one and what where is
the problem she had very
00:42:40.44\00:42:44.67
high triglycerides and
she was quite despondent
00:42:45.19\00:42:49.43
because she did not
know what to do. She stared
00:42:50.38\00:42:55.45
on some cholesterol
lowing medication and it just
00:42:55.56\00:42:59.37
wasn't during the trip
for her. Besides that she had
00:42:59.52\00:43:03.96
terrible pain in her
legs and joints from the
00:43:04.17\00:43:09.48
medication and she said,
I decided them that a stroke
00:43:09.65\00:43:15.10
would be preferable
to the pain that I have.
00:43:15.29\00:43:17.99
She could not even lie
on one side because of the
00:43:18.91\00:43:22.40
pain in her hip, so this
woman is really suffering,
00:43:22.58\00:43:26.88
really suffering and no
hope inside, but then she
00:43:28.01\00:43:32.91
learned about Chip.
And she gleans some nuggets
00:43:33.05\00:43:37.46
that turned her life
around and an amazing drop
00:43:37.92\00:43:42.64
in triglycerides 183
points wow! From, 275 down
00:43:42.98\00:43:49.05
to 92 that's a 67
percent change in triglycerides,
00:43:49.13\00:43:53.94
she has no more pain in
her legs, she has no more
00:43:55.22\00:43:59.42
pain in her hip, in fact
she said, I can now lay on the
00:43:59.60\00:44:04.67
floor on my either hip
and I don't have pain and
00:44:04.87\00:44:09.59
God has a special
significance to Becky. So,
00:44:09.74\00:44:14.13
I'm, I'm so excited
about the progress that she has
00:44:14.42\00:44:18.87
made. It reinforces the
idea by numbers are important
00:44:19.04\00:44:23.24
to us, right? Like you
mention the triglycerides
00:44:23.27\00:44:25.52
the blood fats they
come down to your blood gets
00:44:25.55\00:44:28.97
kind of leaner, thinner
and it nurture the tissues,
00:44:29.14\00:44:33.99
but it's a touch to
human being. A human being
00:44:34.85\00:44:37.31
who couldn't lie
down anymore without pain,
00:44:37.45\00:44:39.91
but now things have
changed. Now, her husband
00:44:40.15\00:44:44.30
was in a bad way too. I
love the picture that we
00:44:45.21\00:44:49.29
had up on the
screen because Paul is an
00:44:49.46\00:44:52.06
auctioneer in his
looking like he is in the mood
00:44:52.09\00:44:55.08
to go to a great job, I
was an auctioneer and his
00:44:55.19\00:45:00.82
weight in 1996 was
240 pounds, he is a pretty
00:45:01.06\00:45:06.31
chunky follow at, at
that weight and by 2004,
00:45:06.46\00:45:11.46
he has had three minor
heart attacks and he also
00:45:11.87\00:45:16.77
has now a mechanical
heart valve and that mechanical
00:45:17.25\00:45:21.45
heart valve was an
assassinating that be beyond
00:45:21.62\00:45:24.43
blood thinner and what's
happening is his blood is
00:45:24.70\00:45:29.48
so thick that he
medication has been increased,
00:45:29.74\00:45:33.49
increased, increased,
and he is having to have
00:45:33.94\00:45:37.40
to blood work done
pretty while daily to monitor
00:45:37.51\00:45:40.80
him trying to get him to
the point where his blood
00:45:41.05\00:45:44.11
is flowing there way
it should be both of these
00:45:44.14\00:45:48.85
individuals are in bad
shape, but they come to
00:45:48.96\00:45:53.86
Chip and they gave
their and there are all and I
00:45:54.05\00:45:59.79
will tell you Paul
needs some amazing progress,
00:45:59.82\00:46:03.57
he has lost to lot of
weight, his cholesterol
00:46:05.34\00:46:08.87
has come down, it's
now and enviable 131,
00:46:08.96\00:46:12.11
protein 217, his
LDL and triglycerides,
00:46:12.76\00:46:17.41
his triglycerides had
cut down to about a third.
00:46:17.70\00:46:20.72
And let's this time to
look at Paul and Becky today,
00:46:22.21\00:46:27.10
they are happy
couple, yeah that's amazing.
00:46:27.73\00:46:30.34
Paul is really a
shadow of himself.
00:46:30.77\00:46:32.99
Is it the same person or where?
00:46:33.84\00:46:35.04
That is the same
person, really, yes, so we're,
00:46:35.48\00:46:40.73
we're really happy
now we do have Laurel
00:46:40.76\00:46:43.97
Johnson on the phone
calling from the River Falls,
00:46:44.15\00:46:47.47
Minnesota. Wow!
And we have a picture
00:46:47.67\00:46:50.05
of Laurel to put up,
can we go ahead and Laurel.
00:46:50.08\00:46:54.68
Sure, Laurel, are
you there. I'm here.
00:46:54.71\00:46:57.57
Okay, welcome to
3ABN, Thursday night live,
00:46:57.77\00:47:00.49
we're so glad, glad to
have you and we want you
00:47:00.62\00:47:03.59
to tell your story, I
tell you it's amazing what
00:47:03.64\00:47:06.63
we're hearing the
testimonies that we're
00:47:06.72\00:47:08.03
hearing tonight, but
you're one of those individuals
00:47:08.23\00:47:11.09
whose lives have
been impacted by the
00:47:11.27\00:47:12.70
Chip program,
tell us about that.
00:47:12.96\00:47:14.17
Oh! Yes, and thanks
for having me and hello to
00:47:15.65\00:47:17.96
everybody there and Dr.
Diehl tell your wife did
00:47:18.12\00:47:21.37
a great job, she does a
piano for me, thank you,
00:47:21.40\00:47:23.23
thank you. Oh! My
story I actually I tell to
00:47:23.44\00:47:27.80
people I came in the
back door with this because it
00:47:27.83\00:47:31.71
was a friend of mine
that really want to take the
00:47:31.78\00:47:33.53
class. She lived out a
town about half an hour
00:47:33.81\00:47:36.70
way and really want to
take the class to better
00:47:36.79\00:47:39.46
her health and want me
to go within it was like
00:47:39.49\00:47:41.94
no and back and forth
and finally it was well,
00:47:42.29\00:47:44.57
okay she won't me
down, I'll do it. And I found
00:47:44.82\00:47:48.45
out that I had some
really major health things
00:47:48.49\00:47:52.50
I going on there, I
didn't know about I had high
00:47:52.54\00:47:54.67
cholesterol, I had high
glucose, so I was in the
00:47:54.76\00:48:01.22
guide better green
even when we took the first
00:48:01.37\00:48:03.13
blood drawn and
after the one month class,
00:48:03.42\00:48:07.48
the number themselves
so dramatically I couldn't
00:48:09.18\00:48:11.01
have you believed it
accept I did live through
00:48:11.05\00:48:13.03
the program and then
I'm here to tell you about
00:48:13.15\00:48:14.92
it, so yeah it was, it
was very good have done a
00:48:14.95\00:48:19.75
program. And the Chip
program, how did you hear
00:48:19.97\00:48:23.68
about the program? I had
heard about it in town and
00:48:23.77\00:48:27.99
it was in the news
papers and also heard about
00:48:28.02\00:48:33.15
some Marilyne itself
and ascended me Marilyn,
00:48:33.30\00:48:35.18
they did not have a
really good and do the class
00:48:35.30\00:48:37.10
or not, but it was
really this friend that said he
00:48:37.17\00:48:41.30
please bear with me
and so it's because of a
00:48:42.13\00:48:44.94
friend, I read a lot of
benefits. Now, what about
00:48:45.25\00:48:48.98
the stat that Chip
program, how do they treat you?
00:48:49.09\00:48:51.26
Oh! Really well, it can't
go and for feeling like Oh!
00:48:52.22\00:48:59.24
No, God really
judge me, I'm over weight,
00:48:59.27\00:49:02.57
I have all these bad
numbers from my blood
00:49:03.28\00:49:05.42
screen, but we were
actually clearly welcoming
00:49:05.52\00:49:09.81
very aggressive and
treated each of those with
00:49:10.69\00:49:13.64
a lot of kindness and
respect, okay, and but I
00:49:13.72\00:49:17.01
really gotten whole
thing like from the get go
00:49:17.38\00:49:19.46
that, being with down
on church they would like
00:49:19.61\00:49:22.47
okay we're glad
you're here and this was a
00:49:22.69\00:49:26.26
starting point. Are,
are there any other benefits
00:49:26.30\00:49:28.97
beside just the change
in the numbers that you
00:49:29.09\00:49:31.54
have experienced?
Yeah, I would say that my
00:49:31.61\00:49:35.64
motive status because
and a man be started over
00:49:35.88\00:49:38.29
depression, but how
the program is not just be
00:49:38.60\00:49:43.52
eating the whole food,
the whole grains getting
00:49:43.61\00:49:47.09
hydrated, but also
exercising and I think those
00:49:47.12\00:49:51.45
three components
together helped in lifting
00:49:51.71\00:49:54.62
my mood. Well, that's amazing.
00:49:54.68\00:49:57.38
You know, in our Chip
program clinical research
00:49:57.48\00:50:01.26
we found that 71
percent of the Chip participants
00:50:01.53\00:50:06.25
who came into the
program clinically depressed
00:50:06.77\00:50:08.79
left within four
weeks, they're longer being
00:50:09.32\00:50:12.32
depressed 71 percent
recovery from depression
00:50:12.44\00:50:16.69
short term, this is very
exciting and this was part
00:50:17.15\00:50:20.45
of a doctor
dissertation and looking at the,
00:50:20.53\00:50:24.92
the effect of a
lifestyle change program on
00:50:25.74\00:50:28.37
depression, but this
lady is saying is apparently
00:50:28.44\00:50:31.51
right on, I mean this
is what we can see in a
00:50:31.77\00:50:34.59
general fatter
weight. You know, it's amazing
00:50:34.73\00:50:36.80
we're, we're so many
amazing stories and I,
00:50:37.34\00:50:40.48
I want to try to get to
one more call, but I also
00:50:40.72\00:50:42.85
want to make sure that
we give the information to
00:50:42.95\00:50:46.54
the people that are
watching and listening to
00:50:46.57\00:50:48.09
this program because
people that are watching
00:50:48.12\00:50:50.09
going to want to
know, how do I get in touch
00:50:50.30\00:50:53.16
with the, the Chip
program, how do I find out more
00:50:54.20\00:50:57.35
about it and, and
become a participant in that
00:50:57.49\00:51:00.69
particular program
and so we want to give the
00:51:00.76\00:51:04.18
information to those
who are viewing this program
00:51:04.37\00:51:06.48
to let them know that
you can get in touch and
00:51:06.57\00:51:09.90
while they're getting
that I just hold to get,
00:51:10.76\00:51:12.01
I want you to also
know, you can call in for
00:51:12.27\00:51:14.06
a free copy of this
book you turned understanding
00:51:14.28\00:51:17.19
preventing and
reversing lifestyle diseases.
00:51:17.55\00:51:20.68
It's your free copy, if
you call for 618-627-4651
00:51:21.11\00:51:26.37
or write in at
freeoffer@3abn.org
00:51:26.64\00:51:30.78
for copy of, of this booklet.
00:51:31.24\00:51:32.66
Well, this be a good
time to perhaps deal with
00:51:33.60\00:51:36.17
some questions
that people might have,
00:51:36.65\00:51:38.62
they may be
interested and I want to become
00:51:39.32\00:51:42.00
a facilitator, I like
to become a director in my
00:51:42.19\00:51:45.47
town and you know,
you have shown that it can
00:51:45.70\00:51:48.65
work in towns and
villages with 2,000 people
00:51:48.85\00:51:52.73
or a 8,000 people
right in way up to draw the
00:51:52.93\00:51:55.71
Minnesota maybe this
might be a good time to
00:51:55.99\00:51:58.97
announce this. I think
it will be good do that,
00:51:59.18\00:52:00.47
but I want to give
the address first, so that
00:52:00.69\00:52:02.32
people can have
that information, okay,
00:52:02.50\00:52:03.67
so we don't go out.
We want to spend our time
00:52:03.71\00:52:06.31
wisely and give some
of this information and
00:52:06.45\00:52:08.77
that you think is and
very important context to
00:52:09.30\00:52:11.95
the program we have
seen here, but here is the
00:52:11.98\00:52:13.91
address that you need
to get in touch and with
00:52:14.04\00:52:16.09
the people that you see here and
00:52:16.38\00:52:18.03
participate inthe Chip program.
00:52:18.25\00:52:19.91
If you would like to
find out find out more
00:52:22.90\00:52:24.07
information about the
Chip program and how you
00:52:24.13\00:52:26.09
can bring Chip to your
area, you can write to a
00:52:26.12\00:52:29.00
Lifestyle Medicine
Institute, PO Box 818,
00:52:29.06\00:52:33.02
Loma Linda, California
9254, that's Lifestyle
00:52:33.36\00:52:37.53
Medicine Institute
PO Box 818, Loma Linda,
00:52:37.74\00:52:41.68
California 9254 or you
can visit our website at
00:52:41.76\00:52:46.08
www.CHIPhealth.org
it's all one word and
00:52:46.27\00:52:50.80
again it's
www.CHIPhealth.org caller
00:52:51.07\00:52:58.31
write to them today,
it love to hear from you.
00:52:58.62\00:53:00.71
You know, it's amazing
we have so many wonderful
00:53:06.35\00:53:08.26
testimonies and I
think we do have one more
00:53:08.32\00:53:10.11
person on the online
tonight and that we would
00:53:10.26\00:53:12.15
like to have you
talk to a Susan Froiland,
00:53:12.21\00:53:14.95
Susan are you there? Yes, I'm.
00:53:15.20\00:53:17.28
Welcome to the
Thursday night live here 3ABN.
00:53:17.60\00:53:19.91
Thank you. And I
think Marilyne lead us
00:53:20.73\00:53:22.36
into the story with, with Susan.
00:53:22.39\00:53:24.17
Alright, well we have a
picture of Susan and her
00:53:24.61\00:53:27.95
husband Berry and we
would like to bring upon the
00:53:28.03\00:53:30.90
screen before
Chip picture and Susan,
00:53:31.10\00:53:36.62
do you wanna tell us your story?
00:53:37.90\00:53:39.60
Well, my husband had
been to the clinic and have
00:53:41.15\00:53:43.34
some blood work done
and his cholesterol was
00:53:43.49\00:53:46.25
an above, so he told the
doctor that we were thinking
00:53:46.39\00:53:49.90
of trying the Chip
program, so I got to hold
00:53:49.93\00:53:52.67
to Marilyne and we
went to the informational
00:53:52.75\00:53:56.39
meeting and signed
up, kind of skeptical what
00:53:56.46\00:53:59.57
we thought, we will
give us a try and we will
00:53:59.64\00:54:02.46
follow at you know,
every bit like you're suppose
00:54:02.76\00:54:06.08
to no cheating
and see what happened?
00:54:06.33\00:54:09.59
Well, Berry he started
his first blood drawn showed
00:54:10.18\00:54:13.63
have total cholesterol
at 197 and after the month
00:54:14.15\00:54:17.87
of the program it
went down to 158, his LDL
00:54:18.05\00:54:22.71
was 140 and after 108. My
total cholesterol was 174,
00:54:22.77\00:54:29.81
but it drop to 149,
amazing and my LDL that
00:54:30.40\00:54:33.93
was good as 78 dropped
to 64, we lost a lot of
00:54:33.96\00:54:38.61
weight, and we do this
together and it really was
00:54:38.92\00:54:43.72
a wonderful experience,
we got a no more lot of
00:54:43.88\00:54:46.08
people, we got to be
good friend with Marilyne and
00:54:46.15\00:54:49.19
it's really funny
because just now this morning
00:54:49.45\00:54:51.48
and I was talking to an
educational assistant in
00:54:51.60\00:54:54.10
my classroom, who is in
the Chip program discussion
00:54:54.13\00:54:57.68
and it's describing
their other teacher taking a
00:54:58.20\00:55:01.98
other people may
coming to you see people you
00:55:02.75\00:55:04.73
know, at the grocery
store and I'm trying to
00:55:04.94\00:55:07.64
speak little bits and pieces
of this into my classroom,
00:55:07.75\00:55:10.82
I teach first grade
and you know, we have real
00:55:11.13\00:55:14.34
obesity issue with
children, so I'm trying to
00:55:14.49\00:55:18.17
give the snacks, the
healthy snacks were doing
00:55:18.31\00:55:21.21
a lot more movement to
help to get and then just
00:55:21.24\00:55:24.59
brining what I
know into my classroom.
00:55:24.72\00:55:27.70
Well, Susan thank you
so much, our program is
00:55:27.85\00:55:30.49
winding down, but thank
you for sharing that with
00:55:30.52\00:55:32.46
us and the important
change is that the Chip
00:55:32.66\00:55:34.97
program has brought
to you live, thank you so
00:55:35.10\00:55:37.43
much. Thank you.
We have a very special
00:55:37.59\00:55:40.71
training program for
people, who want to become
00:55:40.91\00:55:42.65
leaders, okay and especially
primarily for Adventist
00:55:42.82\00:55:46.42
people. There is a
special leadership program being
00:55:46.53\00:55:49.81
schedule in Loma
Linda California and that's
00:55:49.91\00:55:52.56
gonna be November
16 to 21 and there is a
00:55:52.83\00:55:56.67
number that people
can call on 866 number
00:55:56.88\00:56:00.30
732-2447. So, if
somebody is interested in
00:56:00.75\00:56:05.43
this leadership
opportunity 866-732-2447
00:56:05.54\00:56:11.31
and left to have you there.
00:56:11.52\00:56:12.49
Well, now and it was
so good to have you here
00:56:13.07\00:56:14.64
tonight. Thank you. And
Carla, God bless you too
00:56:14.87\00:56:17.16
as you continue and
that your program and
00:56:17.19\00:56:18.67
Dr. Diehl you know,
good deal, that's right
00:56:18.80\00:56:21.75
you know, there is a
lot of, there are lot of
00:56:22.08\00:56:23.34
deals that are
happening and well and now a
00:56:23.42\00:56:24.77
days in that all of
them are good, okay,
00:56:24.82\00:56:26.78
don't forget we talked
about some very important
00:56:27.16\00:56:28.79
things here tonight and
it's something that comes
00:56:28.85\00:56:30.76
down to a personal
decision, if you find that
00:56:31.00\00:56:33.57
you're going down the
wrong road to health of
00:56:33.60\00:56:36.77
the unhealthy road,
remember you could make
00:56:36.90\00:56:39.08
a your turn, you can
began to change your life
00:56:39.13\00:56:41.32
by the things you put in
your body by the exercise
00:56:41.49\00:56:44.03
program and take
advantage of the information
00:56:44.42\00:56:46.92
that we have given to
you and called to find
00:56:46.95\00:56:49.06
out about a Chip
program in your area and how
00:56:49.09\00:56:51.57
your life could be
change in the wonderful and
00:56:51.65\00:56:53.78
marvelous way.
Thank you, for tuning and
00:56:53.95\00:56:56.48
thank you for praying
for us and thank you for all
00:56:57.03\00:56:58.61
he support that
you give to 3ABN and
00:56:58.82\00:57:00.72
until we see you again may the
00:57:00.86\00:57:02.32
Lord continue to best your life.
00:57:02.58\00:57:04.82