We are back and my
guest is Dr. Ron du Preez,
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and we've been
discussing feast, feast keeping,
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feast days. This is
sort of a 101 premier on this
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particular subject, we
have hit a number of really,
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really powerful issues
thus far. We want to take
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just a break and go to
our music for the hour,
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Herman and Sonnie
Harp. We are so gracious,
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then I first
thought of bring us music
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and we turn again now
with, the day he wore my crown.
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The city was
Jerusalem The time was long ago
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The people called him
Jesus The crime was the love
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He showed And I'm the
one to blame I caused all
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the pain He gave Himself,
the day He wore my crown
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He brought me love
that only He could give
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I brought Him cause to
cry And though He taught me
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how to live I taught Him
how to die And I'm the one
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to blame I caused all
the pain He gave Himself,
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the day He wore my
crown He could have called
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His Holy Father, and
said, "Take me away, please,
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take me away." He could
have said, "I'm not guilty.
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And I'm not going to
stay I'm not going to pay."
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But He walked right
through the gate And then on up
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the hill And as He
fell beneath the weight
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He cried, "Father, not
My will." And I'm the one
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to blame I caused all
His pain He gave Himself,
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the day He wore my
crown. And I'm the one to blame
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I caused all His
pain He gave Himself,
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the day He wore my crown.
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Amen, amen. The
day he wore my crown,
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I'm sort of feast because
we're talking about Jesus
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sacrifice, right, and Herman
and Sonnie Harp, well done.
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We've be talking about
the feast and our discussion
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has occasioned quite a bit
of questions there and some
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have come with passion.
We know this is a passionate
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issue for many, many
people and we have been
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careful to couch our
language in redemptive terms.
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We haven't talked
about good or bad or anything
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like that because we're not
trying to cast any aspersion
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on people or their
belief or question their love
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for Christ. Simply
to look at the weight of
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Biblical evidence and
bring that to you and then
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that evidence be its
own judge and its own light.
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So that's what we're
seeking to do. We do want to
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sort of make a little
left turn to deal with one
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particular question that
we have. The person would not
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give their name but they
asked, they are saying this
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Ron, you keep
saying the Jewish feast,
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but it's Yahweh's
feast, the person is saying
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that's the point
you're missing because it has
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nothing to do with Jesus.
Interesting, well let's go to
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Numbers, the book of Numbers
chapter 29 and the reason
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I use the word Jewish, I
should, I use the word Jewish
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in the context of
ancient Israelite feast,
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that's the context. I
am not talking about Jews
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as in today's Jews.
We are talking that about
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in the scriptures. Yes.
We're talking about biblical
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Old Testament material.
So here we are, let's go to
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book of Numbers.
Numbers chapter 29:39,
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notice the language
here, these you shall present
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to the Lord at your appointed
feasts besides your vowed
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offerings and your
freewill offerings as your
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burnt offerings and
your grain offerings
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and your drink offerings
and your peace offerings.
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Notice your appointed
feasts. Now I can go back to
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chapter 27 verse 2
and you read that for us,
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chapter 27 verse 2, who
is the your? See and that's
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the context in
which we're talking about,
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this is where
Moses uses that language,
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your appointed feast. 27:2
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And they stood before Moses,
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before Eleazar the
priest, and before the priests
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of all the congregation
by the door of the tabernacle
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of the congregation saying.
Yes, so this is Moses then
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and this is the
where he starts speaking,
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so its Moses speaking to whom,
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who is the congregation?
Yeah, the Israel, the Jews,
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that's right, the
ancient Israelites.
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So in that context,
that's why I refer to these
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as Jewish or ancient Israelite
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sacred seasons, yeah,
yeah. So it's not me speaking
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it's simply that's way
the Bible identifies it,
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precisely. You
know, precisely, and yes,
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we have no question
that Yahweh did set them up,
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yes.
Absolutely, God set them up.
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If you have been
thinking of many things that God
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did set up, we have
the issue of circumcision,
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did God set it
up? Absolutely, yes,
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so circumcision
is Yahweh's system.
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Do we still practice it?
No, because when we get to
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Acts chapter15, the
council got together as,
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they said we
don't need to require
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circumcision anymore. I see,
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what were they throwing
out, Yahweh, no they recognized
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that it had met its
fulfillments and therefore,
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yes it is Yahweh's
but Yahweh established
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these sacred seasons
for the purpose of these
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sacrifices to point to
Jesus, the Messiah who has come.
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So actually calling
them Israelite feast meaning
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Yahweh's feast for
Israel was to point to
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Jesus Christ himself, indeed.
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There is nothing wrong in that,
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it's a Biblical
concept, it's a Biblical term
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the idea at least and so
that's why we used the word
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and so Israelite
feast, Jewish feast,
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set up by Yahweh they
have met their fulfillment.
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Precisely, and God
was trying to teach
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and train or oriented
their minds. It was for them,
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for their
education. No, no, by the way
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I want to pick up
from that because I do,
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I wish we had another two hours.
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On the other issue
the point you just made,
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God was trying
to teach them, yes.
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This is what so
beautiful about that
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and at the
beginning we should have,
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I should have
mentioned, one of the things
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I want to decide to
start that is they are
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wonderful salvific lessons.
Wonderful important things
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we can learn if we
study this salvation theme
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that goes through the feast.
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No question about
it? The sacred seasons,
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God established
them and had Israel learn
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many important
lessons. How to do with the,
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the sacrificing, the
issue of sin and forgiveness
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and all that,
celebrating joyfully, you know,
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many, many
beautiful lessons in these.
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We are not for a moment tonight
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saying there is
nothing to learn, yes, yes,
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from the sacred
seasons that God set up.
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That's not what
we're discussing, no, no.
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The only topic
we're talking about,
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should we be keeping
them, observing them,
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by the way we are
not talking about,
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there are some
individuals who mark the season,
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they don't observe
it but they just say
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this is the time
that Pentecost used to be
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and at home for their
kids they might just say
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let's study the Bible
and see what ancient Israel
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used to do at this
point in time. Yes, yes.
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If you are living
in certain climates
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they will say, the
kids might say but mom
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this is too cold to
make a trip to Jerusalem,
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then you explain to
them well in ancient Israel
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this was a different climate,
it was warm enough for them
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to go during
this time, yes, yes.
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But, then you
might use the feast,
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the sacred season
for pedagogic purposes
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to train. You can
learn a lot from it.
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We are not also
talking about perhaps;
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there are some
people who might do it
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as a cultural
thing like, Thanksgiving.
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Yes, you know I go
and visit my in-laws;
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I go see people at Thanksgiving.
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I am not an American, a
born and raised, I am now,
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but we enjoy
Thanksgiving together, yes.
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There are some
people that might do it
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as a cultural thing. We
are not talking about culture,
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we are not talking
about pedagogy teaching kids,
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we are not talking
about the wonderful lessons
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we can learn. The only
issue we are looking at,
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should Christians
who believe that Jesus
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is the Messiah,
should Christians be keeping,
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observing the
sacred seasons, the feasts?
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And that's what we are
looking at this evening.
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That's will be the
only topic, the only point.
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So I, I want to
make that clear, yes.
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I don't want to
minimize the wonderful lessons
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we can learn from
studying the Bible on this. Yes,
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anywhere in Bible you
pick it up you can study,
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you can learn, shall we keep,
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in the New
Testament we see this,
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this idea of new moon.
So one new moon to another,
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does that in any way push
us in the direction of feast
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keeping
throughout all eternity even?
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What you mean, you mean Isaiah,
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I mean in Old
Testament, yes, right, yeah.
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Let's go to Isaiah,
it's a good question
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that's a vital one that
you raised because again
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I myself had to go
back and study deeply
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and dig into this
Isaiah. In last chapter
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I believe it is, where it
is, Isaiah chapter 66, yeah,
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Isaiah chapter 66,
and, and we know we often
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start in 65 when we
look at there the verse 17
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that talks about the new heaven
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and the new earth
but we go to chapter 66
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and we normally jump
to the second last verse.
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Is that the verse
you talking about?
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That's the one I mean,
Okay, go head and read it
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first and then we will
do a little digging on that
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because that is the
verse that's often raised by
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those who are
interested and passionate
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about feast keeping, yes,
Isaiah 66, and we are in 23,
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And it shall come to
pass that from one New Moon
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to another, And from
one Sabbath to another
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shall all flesh come
to worship before Me,
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says the Lord. Right
and when we look at that,
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he said wait a minute one
new moon. Now, if you stop
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and you think
about it, and by the way,
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this is where again,
I learned from my feast
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giving friends and
I'm thankful for that.
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They ask the
question why new moon.
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If you read it just, as
it stands in the English,
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in the New King
James, the King James
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revised standard
version, many versions
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bring this out,
from one new moon.
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What is the purpose of new moon
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and again this help I
never knew these things,
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and so we had to study and dig.
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What is the purpose
of the new moons? Okay,
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if you think about it
back then did they have
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watches? No, nothing
at all, how do they know
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when the month
begins? Because the way
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they celebrated and
kept their sacred seasons
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was you got to keep
this Passover the 14th day
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and later then the
15th day of the 1st month
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and then you get
through, you know the 7th month,
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you have the first
day and the 10th day
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and the 15th day, how
do you know when they are?
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Yeah. They had people
who had to watch to see
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when they would
see the first sliver.
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The first sliver of
the new moon, the crescent,
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as it came up they
said, that's our first day.
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So that the moon was basically
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their ancient watch, yes watch,
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the calendar to know
when the month begins.
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So new moons became
pivotal. No new moon,
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they would know
and so by the way,
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if they didn't see it
they had to wait to realize
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because, by the end
they knew that month
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lasted 29.5 something,
291/2.days, days Right,
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and so if they didn't see
the moon when they should have
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it's cloudy then
they would always have it
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the next day automatically.
Because they knew,
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the month couldn't go
for more than 30 days.
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So we end up with the
Jewish month of 30 days,
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but so the moon was pivotal,
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that's the first thing.
So my feast keeping friends
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have brought
this to my attention.
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From one new moon, why
we would you have new moons
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in the earth made
new, unless the new moon
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was there to identify the
keeping of the feast days,
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the sacred seasons.
Wow, that's a tough question
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and so I began to
dig into it and study it,
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I really, my I can't
say, I take credit for it
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but I did
eventually, I was spurred on by
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another friend of
mine who began to do study
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and he brought us to it
my attention and sure enough,
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what's fascinating
and may be we can put up
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our second slide I have
here. It's just very briefly,
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there is a word
there. You will notice
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Hebrew Isaiah 66:23, there
is the Hebrew word Khodesh,
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it appears 283 times
in the Old Testament.
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And now its
interesting, the primary meaning
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for the word Khodesh is
month, it's not new moon,
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is the primary
meaning and so actually
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in this construction it
means from month to month,
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yes, yes. Now we
will go to our next slide,
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our third slide immediately
pick it up and notice
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it says Isaiah 66:23
in the LXX, now that's,
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that's scholarly word
for the Septuagint, yes,
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the word
translated, the Septuagint
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translated into
Greek the Old Testament
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more than 2000 years ago
renders this word as menia.
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It looks like men
with the stroke on the E,
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the normal Greek word for month.
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The new English translation,
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the new living translation,
say month, and the LXX,
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the Septuagint says Khodesh
of Isaiah 1 is new menia,
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new moons in context and
you know when you look at these
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things you
realize wait a minute,
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going back to the text now.
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Let's go back to this
text into Isaiah chapter 20,
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66:23, yes according
to the Jewish translators
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by the way, they wanted to
do translate the Hebrew text
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into Greek, this
is more before Jesus
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even came along,
before he was born.
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Okay and they did that
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and when they translated
this verse, they didn't say,
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it shall come to pass
from new moon to another.
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No, because they
realize that Khodesh 283 times
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in Old Testament. Its
primary meaning is not new moon,
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yes, its primary
meaning is month, is month.
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So in the Septuagint,
let me read it to you,
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now I want to read it in Greek.
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This is the
English translation of the
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Greek translation of
the Old Testament, yes.
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Listen what it says,
it shall come to pass from
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month to month, month to month
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and from Sabbath to
Sabbath that all flesh
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shall come to worship
before me in Jerusalem
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said the Lord, yes, yes. Now,
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what's interesting
modern translations are picking
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that up correctly and
they therefore translated now
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into new English translation
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and the new living
translation they translate
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from month to month and
from Sabbath to Sabbath,
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Praise the God. So
actually there is no new moon
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to be celebrated in the
new earth, how do we know?
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If you go through Revelation,
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Revelation chapter
22, that was the other one
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that was on the
screen but let's go there
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to Revelation 22, now
chapter 21 does tell us
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I saw a new heaven
and new earth which is an
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echo of Isaiah
chapter 65 but when we get to
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Revelation chapter
22:2, is it verse two,
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that talks about the month, yes.
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In the middle of its
street, and on either side
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of the river,
was the tree of life,
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which bore twelve fruits,
each tree yielding its fruit,
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notice every month, yes, yes.
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You see that's the month
to month, and so Isaiah's
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talking about what will
do, worshiping month to month,
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year is coming
together month to month
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and the leaves of the
tree were for the healing
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of the nation.
Yeah, what's fascinating,
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when you get to the
New Testament, 19 times
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the word main is used month
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and it is translated
consistently as month.
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Month, month. Only
once, once in the entire
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New Testament is the
word neomenia, new month,
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new moon and the only
time it ever appears is in
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Colossians 2:16, so
only in Colossians 2:16
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is the discussion
about new moon festival.
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Yes, yes the rest
of the time it's month
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and we are going to
get back to Colossians 2,
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yes before we leave
this subject this time.
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I am just saying
when you go to Isaiah;
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Isaiah is not
predicting the keeping of feasts
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in the earth made new. He
is simply saying every month
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will come together
and Revelations says yes
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we will! What month by
month. Yes, praise God,
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praise God, alright,
wonderful exposition.
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Now, for an, always when
you're dealing this you have
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to deal with in
New Testament context,
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what would the
Apostles do? What would their,
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what were their
actions, what did they do
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and how does that
impact upon feast keeping.
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So, let's look at what
Paul and other Apostles. Right,
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the practice of the Apostles,
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think about this for
a moment. Now you know,
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you said joking at
the beginning we are both
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African-Americans,
probably because I was born in
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South Africa and I
am an American citizen
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by marriage but in your
own family and if you go back
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with generations they
are certain things all of us
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do that are part
and parcel of us,
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without even realizing it, true.
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We pick up things in our
culture and only later on
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when we bumped to
some different cultures,
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they said wait a
minute, why are they doing
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something strange
but we are the ones
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who doing something strange.
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You know what I'm
talking about, yes;
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many times there
are cultural things
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that come with us.
If you go back to the
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ancient Israelites and
you realize starting back to,
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at the time when they
left Egypt and by the way
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we know that it
started then these ceremonies
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these ancient sacred seasons,
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I want to give you one
corroborating text go to
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Hebrews chapter
11 that corroborates
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when they began and
the reason I want to go
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there because in
my personal devotions,
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and this is why I want
to encourage people to read
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their Bibles regularly daily
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but one day in
personal devotions
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I am reading
through the Bible, a habit,
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my wife and I try
to practice every year
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and then I got to
Hebrews chapter 11 verse 28
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it jumped out at me,
because I was reading
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a different translation.
Now notice what it says
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by faith he, who's the
he? We are got to go back to
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verse 23, who is that
talking about in context,
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Moses, Moses you are
right, by faith he Moses left,
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okay, he instituted
sorry, my Bible says by faith
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he instituted the Passover
and I am reading this Bible
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for devotional,
let's say wait a minute.
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It says Moses
instituted, what is your Bible
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the King James
say, kept, he kept.
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So that caught my
attention, wait a minute.
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Why does my Bible
say he Moses instituted
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the Passover and the
King James Version says
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he kept the
Passover, when I read yours.
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By faith Moses kept the
Passover, a feast keeper
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who just reads
the English will say,
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he kept it because it
already been instituted
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from creation and so
that caught my attention
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then I am thinking is my
Bible translation correct
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and I went and I
pulled up my commentaries
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and my concordances
and my Greek and guess
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what the word is there.
It's a Greek word Poeieo,
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now the word for
keep is Phroureo yes, yes
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and it's not Phroureo
it's not Phroureo, it's Poeieo,
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Poeieo means to
do, to make and I went
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and found a dozen
different Bible translations
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including this one. I
brought for this occasion
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this is the Holman
Christian Standard Bible
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which says by faith he
instituted the Passover
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and the sprinkling of
the blood so that the story
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of the first born
might not touch them.
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Very interesting and
that's correct translation
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and it's in multiple
translations by the way
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I have discovered this
in today's English version,
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the revised version,
it's many places they correct
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to catch the new ones
and not just in English.
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It's in Afrikaans
and other languages
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I speak its in
German, Veranstalten,
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and it's also in
the Modern Hebrew.
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The Jews who believe
in Jesus have translated
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the Bible, the New
Testament from Greek
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into Hebrew and
when they translated it
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they even
translated it not as Moses kept
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but Moses made,
Moses instituted.
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So, there is a wide
recognition that Moses
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did not simply
keep the Passover,
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but he instituted it.
So this is very important
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to realize it so these
things all started there
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these sacred
seasons began back there.
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Now so, I want
to make sure that.
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That point comes
across. It started there
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and that was when? We
calculate approximately
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the year 1450 or so BC
when they came out of Egypt,
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out of Egypt, round
figure, 1400s, mid 15th century.
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By the time they get to Jesus
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and he is crucified
30 or so, we say 31.
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How many years, had
the Jews been celebrating,
00:22:10.36\00:22:13.46
keeping these sacred
seasons approximately
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almost 1500 years,
Yeah, 1.5 millennium yes,
00:22:15.84\00:22:19.88
It was part and
parcel of the entire feel,
00:22:19.91\00:22:23.67
and their psyche. Number
one, so this was just part
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of the whole
culture, keep that in mind.
00:22:26.33\00:22:28.28
Number two when the Jews
and the new Christian Sect,
00:22:28.31\00:22:33.07
as they were
called, they were arose,
00:22:33.10\00:22:35.31
where did they go to church.
00:22:35.34\00:22:36.79
Same place
Synagogue, precisely, Okay
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and so when you think about
what calendar did they use.
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They used the same calendar,
00:22:41.76\00:22:42.82
the only one they had,
and so all of these things.
00:22:42.85\00:22:45.32
It was that there the new
Christians that came along
00:22:45.35\00:22:48.70
did not immediately
understand or recognize
00:22:48.73\00:22:51.62
that these things
have come to an end,
00:22:51.65\00:22:53.31
how do we know? Go
with me to the Book of Acts
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and I will show
you this categorically
00:22:55.48\00:22:57.42
from scripture. This
is kind of fascinating.
00:22:57.45\00:22:59.81
Remember generally the
dating of Christ's death
00:22:59.84\00:23:03.46
is around early 30s, we
as Seventh-day Adventists
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believe this the year
31, when we get to Acts
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chapter 15 and across
the Board Bible believing,
00:23:09.05\00:23:12.84
a conservative
scholars believe that Acts 15
00:23:12.87\00:23:15.73
happened in the year
49 AD and here in 49 AD,
00:23:15.76\00:23:21.11
they are getting
together the Judicial of Council
00:23:21.14\00:23:23.52
to do what? To
discuss what issue? Yes,
00:23:23.55\00:23:26.72
notice this is 18
years after Jesus has already
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died and gone to heaven.
What are they discussing,
00:23:32.64\00:23:35.29
the issue of
circumcision, precisely.
00:23:35.32\00:23:37.54
What do we make
Christians do? That's right.
00:23:37.57\00:23:40.25
What do we allow them to
do or force them to? Actually,
00:23:40.28\00:23:41.54
You are right, what
do we force them to do?
00:23:41.57\00:23:44.01
Very blunt to put it, but right.
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What do we force them to do?
00:23:46.10\00:23:47.16
Now notice this is 20
years almost, almost two decades
00:23:47.19\00:23:50.26
after Jesus dies.
They are still saying,
00:23:50.29\00:23:52.62
what should we
do in circumcision,
00:23:52.65\00:23:53.87
which was really
the children of Abraham,
00:23:53.90\00:23:56.37
the descendents of
Abraham. Circumcision was part
00:23:56.40\00:23:59.08
and parcel of the covenant.
00:23:59.11\00:24:00.35
All males had to be circumcised;
00:24:00.38\00:24:02.11
they are still
struggling with circumcision.
00:24:02.14\00:24:04.01
Now notice, it took
them almost 20 years
00:24:04.04\00:24:05.97
before they
realized and they said okay.
00:24:06.00\00:24:07.56
We don't have to
require it of the gentiles,
00:24:07.59\00:24:10.63
do you understand
what I am saying? Yes.
00:24:10.66\00:24:12.34
It was hard, they
didn't see this, because it's
00:24:12.37\00:24:14.21
such a cultural reality
more than a religious one.
00:24:14.24\00:24:17.42
Right, what we do and so
they didn't give it up right
00:24:17.45\00:24:20.27
away and so for one some of
them they didn't realize it,
00:24:20.30\00:24:25.28
they just kept doing
it because it was part
00:24:25.31\00:24:27.41
and part, parcel of
it, they didn't discern
00:24:27.44\00:24:30.01
what had happen.
Sometimes they did it apparently
00:24:30.04\00:24:32.65
to reach people for the Lord.
00:24:32.68\00:24:34.32
We know that happened
in Acts 2, where Peter
00:24:34.35\00:24:37.12
started preaching to
everybody you came together
00:24:37.15\00:24:39.14
all the Jews, they
were there for Pentecost.
00:24:39.17\00:24:41.38
Yes, he uses an
opportunity to do what?
00:24:41.41\00:24:43.94
To reach people for
the Lord and I can show
00:24:43.97\00:24:46.79
that I believe Acts
20 is a similar example.
00:24:46.82\00:24:49.20
Paul was going to
go to a feast, why?
00:24:49.23\00:24:51.67
I believe that Paul
was going to go there
00:24:51.70\00:24:54.32
not to keep the
feast necessarily,
00:24:54.35\00:24:56.12
Acts chapter 20 but most
likely to try to reach people
00:24:56.15\00:24:59.66
and no I will show you
that, the reason for that
00:24:59.69\00:25:01.58
from his own words
in a minute. Acts 20:16,
00:25:01.61\00:25:04.85
For Paul had decided
to sail past Ephesus,
00:25:04.88\00:25:08.52
so that he would not
have to spend time in Asia;
00:25:08.55\00:25:10.86
for he was hurrying to be
at Jerusalem, if possible,
00:25:10.89\00:25:15.02
on the Day of
Pentecost. That's when he wanted
00:25:15.05\00:25:18.79
to reach there;
the Bible doesn't say
00:25:18.82\00:25:20.76
why he wanted to go
there? But I believe
00:25:20.79\00:25:23.03
there is a Biblical
answer, so go with me
00:25:23.06\00:25:24.39
to First Corinthians,
I believe Paul was doing
00:25:24.42\00:25:26.68
that for a specific reason.
First Corinthians chapter 9
00:25:26.71\00:25:29.46
and let's look at
what Paul says he did,
00:25:29.49\00:25:32.80
First Corinthians
9:20-21, and by the way
00:25:32.83\00:25:38.47
I am going to read
specifically now from
00:25:38.50\00:25:39.99
the New living translation
because it captures it,
00:25:40.02\00:25:43.79
you know, I knows
it's a bit of paraphrase
00:25:43.82\00:25:45.77
but it captures it in
modern contemporary English
00:25:45.80\00:25:49.26
and it doesn't
twist the word of God,
00:25:49.29\00:25:51.35
it gets it like when
we talk about the Bible
00:25:51.38\00:25:54.23
we use our own
words. This is putting it
00:25:54.26\00:25:56.33
in modern language.
When I am with the Jews,
00:25:56.36\00:25:59.07
Paul says I become
one of them so that
00:25:59.10\00:26:02.89
I can bring them to Christ.
Yes, and then he continues,
00:26:02.92\00:26:06.19
When I am with the
gentiles who do not have
00:26:06.22\00:26:08.58
the Jewish Law, I fit in
with them as much as I can.
00:26:08.61\00:26:11.81
In this way, I
gain their confidence
00:26:11.84\00:26:14.58
and bring them to
Christ. But he says,
00:26:14.61\00:26:17.40
but I do not
discard the Law of God;
00:26:17.43\00:26:20.43
I obey the Law of
Christ. I love the way
00:26:20.46\00:26:25.11
the new living
translation has captured them.
00:26:25.14\00:26:26.95
What did Paul say? I
got involved with the custom
00:26:26.98\00:26:30.60
in order to have the
opportunity to win them
00:26:30.63\00:26:33.16
to Christ. So
it's to me this passage
00:26:33.19\00:26:35.51
when he goes in, Acts
chapter 20 to the Pentecost
00:26:35.54\00:26:38.96
he does not say, I am on
my way to keep the feast.
00:26:38.99\00:26:41.97
I got to be there, what happened
00:26:42.00\00:26:44.78
at one of the early Pentecost 20
00:26:44.81\00:26:46.52
or so years
before, 30 years before
00:26:46.55\00:26:48.21
many people heard the
message that they were able
00:26:48.24\00:26:51.03
to take it out to
the world and Paul,
00:26:51.06\00:26:53.04
I believe he is using it,
he himself says he does this,
00:26:53.07\00:26:55.41
he keeps the feast
for salvific purposes,
00:26:55.44\00:26:57.74
he doesn't keep them
but he goes there where
00:26:57.77\00:27:00.65
they are yes, he
doesn't himself celebrate them
00:27:00.68\00:27:02.90
but he goes there to
them, because, people are there,
00:27:02.93\00:27:05.34
yes, that's right. And
sometimes we as Adventists
00:27:05.37\00:27:08.56
have done the same
Easter time I might get up
00:27:08.59\00:27:10.94
and preach a sermon on the
resurrection of Christ, yes,
00:27:10.97\00:27:13.53
not because we are saying
that Jesus was resurrected
00:27:13.56\00:27:15.69
that weekend but
because the world
00:27:15.72\00:27:17.73
or many other
Christians are looking at Easter
00:27:17.76\00:27:20.47
as the way they use the
term at the time of Jesus
00:27:20.50\00:27:23.38
resurrection and so this
is a good opportunity to share
00:27:23.41\00:27:26.18
the two true message,
yeah, Paul was doing the same
00:27:26.21\00:27:29.20
and First Corinthians
point that out, so they kept it
00:27:29.23\00:27:32.05
because it was
part of their culture
00:27:32.08\00:27:33.36
and that they had
a hard time giving up
00:27:33.39\00:27:34.89
they also kept it to
reach people for Christ,
00:27:34.92\00:27:37.20
but you know what,
there is also evidence
00:27:37.23\00:27:38.94
that sometimes they
went over board one time
00:27:38.97\00:27:41.63
Paul took a vow and he did this
00:27:41.66\00:27:43.65
and he got into
trouble Acts chapter 18
00:27:43.68\00:27:45.50
he made some confessions and so,
00:27:45.53\00:27:48.18
so sometimes they
actually went a little too far,
00:27:48.21\00:27:51.40
it is part of their
culture they had a hard time
00:27:51.43\00:27:53.79
giving certain things
up, yes and by the way
00:27:53.82\00:27:55.79
it took them years we
know that to understand it
00:27:55.82\00:27:58.63
because we know by
the end of the 50s, yeah,
00:27:58.66\00:28:00.78
40s by the year 49
they were still resting
00:28:00.81\00:28:02.91
with circumcision and
the customs that's the word
00:28:02.94\00:28:06.43
ethos and then only
around the year 60 only,
00:28:06.46\00:28:10.23
and that's the
best we can date it Paul
00:28:10.26\00:28:13.26
wrote the book of Colossians
and by then he understood it
00:28:13.29\00:28:16.92
and the Holy Spirit
impressed him to write that
00:28:16.95\00:28:19.29
clear message which
we'll get to Acts chapter,
00:28:19.32\00:28:21.55
I mean, Colossians
chapter 2 many years
00:28:21.58\00:28:23.75
after the book of Acts
we were talking about here,
00:28:23.78\00:28:26.24
yeah, well as we are
just about a half way through
00:28:26.27\00:28:29.23
our second-half let's
wave into Colossians, okay,
00:28:29.26\00:28:32.74
let us do precisely
that for a number of reason.
00:28:32.77\00:28:36.83
One of the things that
you dealt with last year here
00:28:36.86\00:28:42.15
and that you do I
know, in your book
00:28:42.18\00:28:43.79
the idea of
handwriting on the wall
00:28:43.82\00:28:46.23
and what that means and
what are the implications
00:28:46.26\00:28:49.12
for continued feast
keeping and what does that
00:28:49.15\00:28:54.97
wonderful passage there in
Colossians 2:13 through 17,
00:28:55.00\00:28:59.38
actually 13 through 20,
if you want to go that far,
00:28:59.41\00:29:01.33
what does that say for,
how does that lay on top
00:29:01.36\00:29:03.89
of what we are
discussing this night. Wow,
00:29:03.92\00:29:06.91
you know I wasn't aware of
it, until I started digging
00:29:06.94\00:29:09.69
to that New
Testament scholars consider
00:29:09.72\00:29:13.17
Colossians chapter 2
those verses around from 13
00:29:13.20\00:29:16.37
some go from verse 6 up
to verse 19 and verse 20,
00:29:16.40\00:29:18.99
yeah, that is
considered one of the most
00:29:19.02\00:29:20.77
exegetically
difficult passages in the entire
00:29:20.80\00:29:23.90
Bible to
understand, the most complex
00:29:23.93\00:29:26.19
and part of that we
are not pushing it aside
00:29:26.22\00:29:28.97
but part of that is
because it's like listening
00:29:29.00\00:29:31.27
to one side of
conversation on the telephone,
00:29:31.30\00:29:32.91
where you only hear the
one said yes, no, no, no,
00:29:32.94\00:29:35.21
don't do that oh
that's a good idea,
00:29:35.24\00:29:37.23
go ahead tomorrow, no,
no, no do it the next day,
00:29:37.26\00:29:41.27
and you're only hearing
one side, you are saying,
00:29:41.30\00:29:43.18
what's bad, what's good,
okay so in a certain sense
00:29:43.21\00:29:46.17
that's what's
happening here, however we know
00:29:46.20\00:29:49.17
that the Bible was
inspired by the Holy Spirit, yes
00:29:49.20\00:29:51.57
and can be understood in
context and digging deeply
00:29:51.60\00:29:55.34
as for hidden
treasure and fallen solid
00:29:55.37\00:29:58.58
biblical principles,
we can understand it,
00:29:58.61\00:30:00.48
so I believe if we
do that I am not saying
00:30:00.51\00:30:02.32
because it's
difficult we can't understand it
00:30:02.35\00:30:04.30
because it's
difficult we should set it aside
00:30:04.33\00:30:05.87
but you know even
Peter says some of the things
00:30:05.90\00:30:07.92
that Paul wrote
are hard to understand
00:30:07.95\00:30:09.82
and he says that in
the scriptures, right,
00:30:09.85\00:30:12.32
this I see as one
of those difficult to
00:30:12.35\00:30:15.08
understand passages,
not impossible difficult
00:30:15.11\00:30:17.25
but by God's
grace we can dig into
00:30:17.28\00:30:19.05
it and understand it.
00:30:19.08\00:30:20.05
So, let's go to
Colossians chapter 2
00:30:20.06\00:30:21.03
actually there
are some scholars that
00:30:21.04\00:30:23.09
say when you start with verse 6
00:30:23.12\00:30:24.36
it gives us some
introduction as you
00:30:24.39\00:30:28.03
therefore have
received Jesus Christ
00:30:28.06\00:30:29.96
or Christ Jesus
the Lord so walk in him
00:30:29.99\00:30:32.07
kind of it starts
there and it unpacks
00:30:32.10\00:30:34.53
it from seven
onwards all the way through
00:30:34.56\00:30:36.71
verse 19 or some
go to verse 20 there
00:30:36.74\00:30:38.51
is a whole
section that's together
00:30:38.54\00:30:39.71
but we got to start with as you
00:30:39.74\00:30:42.14
have therefore received.
00:30:42.17\00:30:43.14
Paul is talking by
inspiration to converted
00:30:43.15\00:30:46.26
Christians yes,
he says, you have
00:30:46.29\00:30:48.23
received Christ, you
have received him, yes
00:30:48.26\00:30:49.89
you have
received him, now walk in
00:30:49.92\00:30:51.15
him in order to live like
real Christians, precisely
00:30:51.18\00:30:53.26
then he
continues and he in verse
00:30:53.29\00:30:55.68
12 and 13 this
is key, 12 and 13 is
00:30:55.71\00:30:57.57
considered by
some scholars as key
00:30:57.60\00:30:59.94
for this chapter and
key for the whole book
00:30:59.97\00:31:01.52
as kind of the core, do you want
00:31:01.55\00:31:03.67
to read that,
verse 12 and verse 13
00:31:03.70\00:31:05.17
and notice the language, yes,
00:31:05.20\00:31:06.38
I'm in verse 12, Buried with him
00:31:06.41\00:31:08.15
in baptism, wherein also ye are
00:31:08.18\00:31:10.95
risen with him through the faith
00:31:10.98\00:31:12.70
of the operation of
God, who hath raised
00:31:12.73\00:31:15.39
him from the dead.
Now stop there yeah,
00:31:15.42\00:31:17.18
I will read, now
notice buried and raised,
00:31:17.21\00:31:18.63
okay see and
this is the holy shift
00:31:18.66\00:31:20.67
of not just physical
burying this is baptism,
00:31:20.70\00:31:23.45
that's a symbol of
it, buried and raised
00:31:23.48\00:31:25.70
okay and now live like you are
00:31:25.73\00:31:28.30
alive in Christ.
Now notice verse 13
00:31:28.33\00:31:29.71
and you being dead
in your sins and the
00:31:29.74\00:31:33.48
uncircumcision of
your flesh, hath he quicken
00:31:33.51\00:31:36.42
together with him,
having forgiven you all
00:31:36.45\00:31:40.05
trespasses; right. Now
the old English quicken
00:31:40.08\00:31:42.14
is of course made
alive, yes so verse 12
00:31:42.17\00:31:44.40
says you know
you've been buried okay
00:31:44.43\00:31:47.19
with baptism and you are raised
00:31:47.22\00:31:49.33
verse 13 says you
were dead and are alive.
00:31:49.36\00:31:51.54
Notice this is kind
of an echo in the very
00:31:51.57\00:31:55.15
beautiful
characteristic of Semitic
00:31:55.18\00:31:57.74
or Jewish thinking,
yes, is what they call the
00:31:57.77\00:31:59.71
echoing ideas,
yes, sometimes they call
00:31:59.74\00:32:02.41
it parallelism,
sometimes it's called chiasmus,
00:32:02.44\00:32:05.67
you know what I mean, yes, yes,
00:32:05.70\00:32:07.28
we study those
beautiful things, yes,
00:32:07.31\00:32:08.68
and we find the
repetition and here is
00:32:08.71\00:32:10.79
the repetition you
got buried and raised,
00:32:10.82\00:32:13.57
you've got dead
and alive, you've got
00:32:13.60\00:32:15.93
that beautiful
parallelism there,
00:32:15.96\00:32:17.56
in 12 and 13 and when you look
00:32:17.59\00:32:19.40
at 12 and 13 you
say wait a minute
00:32:19.43\00:32:20.97
if you have 12
being echoed in 13, 14
00:32:21.00\00:32:24.66
is in echo of
what it has to be going
00:32:24.69\00:32:26.89
to verse 11 and it
is very interesting
00:32:26.92\00:32:28.70
in verse 11 it
says in him you are
00:32:28.73\00:32:31.58
circumcised with
the circumcision made
00:32:31.61\00:32:33.97
without hands,
now I know it's going
00:32:34.00\00:32:35.64
deep into the
text and then verse
00:32:35.67\00:32:37.31
14 having wiped
up the hand writing.
00:32:37.34\00:32:40.69
Notice the echo
of the hand, yes it's
00:32:40.72\00:32:43.19
fascinating now
when they speak they echo
00:32:43.22\00:32:45.58
the concept and
verse 11 talks about
00:32:45.61\00:32:47.89
circumcision which is
part of the ancient stuff
00:32:47.92\00:32:53.27
that was
ordinances that were given to
00:32:53.30\00:32:55.95
the descendents
of Abraham, correct
00:32:55.98\00:32:58.82
and it echoes
verse 14, verse 11 and 14
00:32:58.85\00:33:02.59
echo each other
as much as 12 echoes,
00:33:02.62\00:33:04.43
13, 11 echoes 14
and as you look at that
00:33:04.46\00:33:07.19
you say wait a
minute that is interesting
00:33:07.22\00:33:08.58
now besides the
structure the way they
00:33:08.61\00:33:10.86
wrote let's go into verse 14,
00:33:10.89\00:33:12.69
when it says having white, very
00:33:12.72\00:33:15.54
interesting
that Greek word excel
00:33:15.57\00:33:18.17
the Greek word
there is comes from
00:33:18.20\00:33:22.41
a word that is used
in ancient literature
00:33:22.44\00:33:25.46
for wiping out a law,
it's a very interesting word,
00:33:25.49\00:33:30.42
[Foreign Language],
to wipe out, abolish a
00:33:30.45\00:33:34.32
law that's what the term is.
00:33:34.35\00:33:36.20
In the ancient
secular literature of the
00:33:36.23\00:33:38.18
time to wipe
out, to abolish a law,
00:33:38.21\00:33:40.27
having wiped out
and then it says having
00:33:40.30\00:33:42.29
wiped out what the handwriting,
00:33:42.32\00:33:44.18
now that is a word
that's been debated
00:33:44.21\00:33:46.00
now for decades
actually it doesn't need
00:33:46.03\00:33:49.45
to be debated
because that would,
00:33:49.48\00:33:51.12
handwriting is a
correct translation,
00:33:51.15\00:33:53.72
some Bibles have a
certificate of death and
00:33:53.75\00:33:57.36
they come up with
that's not translation,
00:33:57.39\00:33:59.44
that's
interpretation, if you are going
00:33:59.47\00:34:01.69
to be faithful the
word there is hieroglypho,
00:34:01.72\00:34:04.03
heiro hand and
grapho is writing,
00:34:04.06\00:34:06.92
the graphic you see
it's, so hieroglypho
00:34:06.95\00:34:10.47
there is only
one way to translate,
00:34:10.50\00:34:11.74
it is a
handwriting or a written code.
00:34:11.77\00:34:13.73
So wiping out the
written code and then
00:34:13.76\00:34:17.78
it says with it's stoic
dogmas, with it's decrees,
00:34:17.81\00:34:22.43
this so it's
wiping out, abolishing the
00:34:22.46\00:34:25.67
handwritten code with it's laws.
00:34:25.70\00:34:28.19
As far as I've
seen this exaggerated as
00:34:28.22\00:34:30.66
Sin Dead, no, no
he is already dealt
00:34:30.69\00:34:32.85
with that in verse
12 and 13 precisely
00:34:32.88\00:34:34.72
he is done with all
of those, yes, yes, yes,
00:34:34.75\00:34:36.20
12 and 13 is
dealing with Sin Dead,
00:34:36.23\00:34:37.74
14 is dealing now
with something else
00:34:37.77\00:34:40.34
and then it
says and he did what,
00:34:40.37\00:34:42.48
which was
something which was contrary
00:34:42.51\00:34:44.22
to us against us
by the way this echo
00:34:44.25\00:34:47.08
is Deuteronomy
chapter 31, oh, yeah, yeah,
00:34:47.11\00:34:50.64
verse 26 which
talks about these laws
00:34:50.67\00:34:51.64
that were contrary
to us, yes, it does
00:34:51.65\00:34:52.62
and in the Hebrew
text some say it's
00:34:52.63\00:34:54.16
not there, it is
there, these things
00:34:54.19\00:34:56.05
are contrary to
us and having nailed
00:34:56.08\00:34:57.88
taken it away
and having nailed it
00:34:57.91\00:34:59.66
to the cross, yeah and so as you
00:34:59.69\00:35:01.48
look at the
echoing the structure,
00:35:01.51\00:35:03.16
the linguistics
and you know what even
00:35:03.19\00:35:04.75
the ancient Greek
fathers, hundreds and
00:35:04.78\00:35:07.41
almost 1000 years ago, over 1000
00:35:07.44\00:35:09.19
years ago they
understood this to be
00:35:09.22\00:35:11.03
what we will call
nowadays the "Ceremonial Law"
00:35:11.06\00:35:15.23
I use the word in
quotes because the
00:35:15.26\00:35:17.06
Bible doesn't use
the term but it's the
00:35:17.09\00:35:18.25
law dealing with the
ceremonies, the feast
00:35:18.28\00:35:20.14
days, all of these
things circumcision,
00:35:20.17\00:35:22.37
these things if you
are going to look at
00:35:22.40\00:35:24.54
the text structurally
and linguistically, yeah
00:35:24.57\00:35:27.40
and exegetically
and intertextually, and
00:35:27.43\00:35:29.28
intertextually,
meaning we go back to
00:35:29.31\00:35:31.13
Ephesians 2
verse 15, yes, we got
00:35:31.16\00:35:33.44
the similar phrase
there in dogmas and
00:35:33.47\00:35:36.94
the same idea is
in decrees and it's
00:35:36.97\00:35:39.27
no question, it's a ten,
not the Ten Commandments,
00:35:39.30\00:35:41.59
but the ordinances
besides the Ten Commandments.
00:35:41.62\00:35:44.16
So verse 14 is
what was nailed to cross
00:35:44.19\00:35:47.04
was these additional
ceremonial laws, now I
00:35:47.07\00:35:51.01
know some
people say but hold on,
00:35:51.04\00:35:52.43
hold on Ron, the
word nomos is not in
00:35:52.46\00:35:55.17
Colossians at
all and that is true,
00:35:55.20\00:35:56.87
and nomos, by the
way is a word that
00:35:56.90\00:35:58.89
Paul uses many
Bible students know
00:35:58.92\00:36:01.06
the word nomas, means law, yes,
00:36:01.09\00:36:02.79
it's the equivalent of
the Old Testament Torah.
00:36:02.82\00:36:04.98
Nomas is never
used in Colossians and
00:36:05.01\00:36:08.18
if Paul was
trying to say that why
00:36:08.21\00:36:09.47
didn't he use the
word nomas, as you look
00:36:09.50\00:36:11.31
at the context it's
very interesting Paul
00:36:11.34\00:36:13.30
didn't use the
word nomas, because
00:36:13.33\00:36:15.02
he didn't want
people to think that the
00:36:15.05\00:36:16.72
entire five books
of the Bible the Torah
00:36:16.75\00:36:19.06
was wiped out,
the Ten Commandments
00:36:19.09\00:36:21.42
were eternal, the
health laws continue,
00:36:21.45\00:36:23.66
yes and there are
many principles that come
00:36:23.69\00:36:25.78
from that like tithing
and so forth that continue,
00:36:25.81\00:36:28.74
it was only limited
to the ceremonial laws,
00:36:28.77\00:36:31.83
yes the sacrificial system, the
00:36:31.86\00:36:33.80
sacrificial days,
the sacred days these
00:36:33.83\00:36:35.98
that pointed to
Jesus, that's powerful,
00:36:36.01\00:36:37.60
that's powerful so
he didn't use nomas, yes
00:36:37.63\00:36:40.39
he couldn't use nomas,
it could confuse people.
00:36:40.42\00:36:42.62
So he talks about the
handwriting in decrees
00:36:42.65\00:36:46.16
that was nailed
to cross why because
00:36:46.19\00:36:48.87
they pointed to the
cross to Jesus Christ
00:36:48.90\00:36:51.43
the lamb of God,
precisely and that's
00:36:51.46\00:36:53.04
where they met
their fulfillment,
00:36:53.07\00:36:54.59
praise the Lord,
and in Deuteronomy
00:36:54.62\00:36:56.26
we get that same
word that which is
00:36:56.29\00:36:58.16
put in the side of
the Ark was there as a
00:36:58.19\00:36:59.87
witness against
us, correct, as we
00:36:59.90\00:37:02.22
here we go with
that against us again,
00:37:02.25\00:37:03.43
alright, separate
from the Ten Commandments,
00:37:03.46\00:37:05.12
right it was in
the side, and whole
00:37:05.15\00:37:06.74
other compartment. So two
different differentiations,
00:37:06.77\00:37:08.96
one was against
you I hear this against
00:37:08.99\00:37:11.25
us that will, that is
what was blathered out,
00:37:13.46\00:37:14.43
correct in verse 14
unfortunately modern
00:37:14.44\00:37:15.56
translations have not
been translating that,
00:37:15.59\00:37:17.22
they've been
interpreting by saying it's
00:37:17.25\00:37:20.18
a certificate of
death, it's the record of
00:37:20.21\00:37:21.98
our sins that's not
in the text and guess
00:37:22.01\00:37:24.04
where they get
that, they go to extra
00:37:24.07\00:37:25.96
biblical literature,
literature outside of
00:37:25.99\00:37:27.24
the Bible to prove
that they get it from
00:37:27.27\00:37:29.93
apocryphal
literature, when we have the
00:37:29.96\00:37:31.54
Bible interpreted self, yes then
00:37:31.57\00:37:33.39
it has to the
handwriting of co-ordinances
00:37:33.42\00:37:35.96
and we must be
faithful scholars of the Bible,
00:37:35.99\00:37:38.22
have the Bible
interpreted itself
00:37:38.25\00:37:39.72
you cannot bring
make the cheirographon,
00:37:39.75\00:37:41.98
I believe there
is nothing to support
00:37:42.01\00:37:43.76
the certificate of
death or the record
00:37:43.79\00:37:46.32
of our sins, okay,
that's in 12 and 13
00:37:46.35\00:37:48.25
not 14, yeah we ease
back a little bit into
00:37:48.28\00:37:51.57
something that you
touched on last time
00:37:51.60\00:37:53.21
you were here,
how does this impact
00:37:53.24\00:37:55.81
or deal with or
bring in the Sabbath
00:37:55.84\00:37:59.00
that are spoken
of in these texts and
00:37:59.03\00:38:02.33
the text that
follows. Yeah, by the way
00:38:02.36\00:38:03.38
way verse 14 we
just finished you
00:38:03.41\00:38:04.62
know Christ is
actually he dies but
00:38:04.65\00:38:07.36
he is victories
verse 15 points it out.
00:38:07.39\00:38:09.23
So we'll carry
on having disarmed
00:38:09.26\00:38:11.72
principalities
and powers he made
00:38:11.75\00:38:13.81
a public
spectacle of enhancing over,
00:38:13.84\00:38:16.02
you know, over them
in it. So Christ dies,
00:38:16.05\00:38:18.81
he is crucified
these things that
00:38:18.84\00:38:21.21
pointed forward
to him have all ended
00:38:21.24\00:38:23.06
he is successful
over these principalities,
00:38:23.09\00:38:26.37
he is
triumphant, yeah now verse 16
00:38:26.40\00:38:29.82
now that's the
text and I just want
00:38:29.85\00:38:31.67
to when I was a young rookie,
00:38:31.70\00:38:33.23
just coming out, a pastor hit me
00:38:33.26\00:38:35.21
with this and he
said see let no man judge,
00:38:35.24\00:38:38.62
you're judging me
because I am not keeping
00:38:38.65\00:38:39.95
the Sabbath and
only use cross refer
00:38:39.98\00:38:41.64
this again and again but one of
00:38:41.67\00:38:43.30
my first
evangelistic crusades coming
00:38:43.33\00:38:45.04
out of school dealing
with a Baptist minister
00:38:45.07\00:38:47.03
and this event,
right to this one, right,
00:38:47.06\00:38:49.01
he went right
there and so it stands
00:38:49.04\00:38:50.02
that in my mind
because it was the
00:38:50.05\00:38:51.27
first one that I
have to sort of defend
00:38:51.30\00:38:52.73
and it's a tough
text I'll admit that.
00:38:52.76\00:38:54.99
When I first
started digging to this text
00:38:55.02\00:38:57.12
I actually switched
my view I eventually
00:38:57.15\00:38:59.76
I said this is the
Seventh-day Sabbath
00:38:59.79\00:39:02.32
because I was
starting to dig and
00:39:02.35\00:39:03.94
I haven't gone deep
enough and if you look
00:39:03.97\00:39:05.86
at the surface it does
look like that and I'll
00:39:05.89\00:39:08.27
explain why in a
minute, why don't we look
00:39:08.30\00:39:10.85
at the test right
now and then we'll give
00:39:10.88\00:39:12.22
some background
to it, so let no one
00:39:12.25\00:39:14.06
judge you, you gonna read from
00:39:14.09\00:39:15.45
the King James version. Let no
00:39:15.48\00:39:16.80
man therefore judge you in meat,
00:39:16.83\00:39:18.86
or in drink, yeah now you know
00:39:18.89\00:39:20.16
is the old
English word for food,
00:39:20.19\00:39:21.60
okay for food
okay it's not as you
00:39:21.63\00:39:24.17
know hamburgers or
so forth, it's food,
00:39:24.20\00:39:26.42
it's a general
term, because you had a
00:39:26.45\00:39:28.98
controversy about
meat offered to idols
00:39:29.01\00:39:31.29
and all kinds of
stuff like that food in
00:39:31.32\00:39:33.88
general, you are
right, or in drink, or
00:39:33.91\00:39:35.74
in respect of an holy
day, or of a new moon,
00:39:35.77\00:39:38.98
or of the Sabbath
days. And that's where
00:39:39.01\00:39:40.82
he sort of slapped
me right out of school,
00:39:40.85\00:39:42.35
now that the King
James of the holy day,
00:39:42.38\00:39:44.89
by the way that's old
English holy day, yes,
00:39:44.92\00:39:47.05
the actual Greek
word there heorte
00:39:47.08\00:39:48.65
is a festival and
it's a limited word
00:39:48.68\00:39:51.26
by the way this
unfortunately almost
00:39:51.29\00:39:53.23
everybody who was given up the
00:39:53.26\00:39:54.99
Sabbath because
they believe this is
00:39:55.02\00:39:56.90
the Seventh-day Sabbath that I
00:39:56.93\00:39:57.90
came across and all of my feast
00:39:57.91\00:39:59.86
giving friends,
they have ignored
00:39:59.89\00:40:01.62
that this word
festival is a very
00:40:01.65\00:40:03.89
narrow word,
heorte in the entire
00:40:03.92\00:40:06.44
New Testament categorically
00:40:06.47\00:40:07.66
I can say yeah,
it never includes day
00:40:07.69\00:40:10.69
of trumpets and
it never includes day
00:40:10.72\00:40:12.79
of atonement and
it never includes
00:40:12.82\00:40:14.17
sabbatical years.
It is a limited word
00:40:14.20\00:40:17.61
heorte actually
echoes the Hebrew
00:40:17.64\00:40:21.12
word Hag and it's a narrow term
00:40:21.15\00:40:23.10
that is a pilgrim
festival, it refers
00:40:23.13\00:40:26.10
to Passover which
includes unleaven bread
00:40:26.13\00:40:28.07
first with Passover,
00:40:28.10\00:40:29.88
Pentecost and tabernacles.
00:40:29.91\00:40:31.27
So when it says let no man judge
00:40:31.30\00:40:33.47
it concerning and
they use word festival
00:40:33.50\00:40:35.75
or holy day in King
James, the best word
00:40:35.78\00:40:38.39
is let no men judge
you concerning pilgrimages,
00:40:38.42\00:40:41.53
Passover,
Pentecost, tabernacles,
00:40:41.56\00:40:44.06
yes, yes, if it
doesn't include everything,
00:40:44.09\00:40:45.85
right, you must be
specific because you
00:40:45.88\00:40:47.73
see people say this
is all the annual things
00:40:47.76\00:40:51.75
and they say
look festivals are all
00:40:51.78\00:40:54.45
annual feasts
there is the argument
00:40:54.48\00:40:56.12
from outside and
some inside those are
00:40:56.15\00:41:00.54
feast keepers
they say festival or
00:41:00.57\00:41:02.78
all the annual
sacrifices, okay and
00:41:02.81\00:41:04.82
once you say okay they got you.
00:41:04.85\00:41:06.04
Because if festival is annual,
00:41:06.07\00:41:08.31
new moon is how often? Monthly.
00:41:08.34\00:41:11.12
You got annual,
monthly, therefore Sabbath
00:41:11.15\00:41:14.85
must be, yeah annual, monthly,
00:41:14.88\00:41:18.52
weekly that's
the argument, yeah,
00:41:18.55\00:41:21.24
you see and you're trapped but
00:41:21.27\00:41:23.46
actually it's not
a correct argument
00:41:23.49\00:41:26.16
it's not even I
won't say dishonest one,
00:41:26.19\00:41:27.87
it's a misleading
one unintentionally
00:41:27.90\00:41:29.96
I believe,
because the word heorte
00:41:29.99\00:41:31.65
does not mean
annual, absolutely not,
00:41:31.68\00:41:34.38
it means pilgrim festivals only,
00:41:34.41\00:41:36.64
it includes Passover, Pentecost
00:41:36.67\00:41:38.28
and tabernacles it never means
00:41:38.31\00:41:40.45
day of
atonement, day of trumpets.
00:41:40.48\00:41:42.47
So you got to get
this fixed in people's
00:41:42.50\00:41:44.11
minds, yeah very
clearly it's a limited
00:41:44.14\00:41:46.53
term I've got a
slide I'm going to
00:41:46.56\00:41:47.73
put up a little
bit here but not yet,
00:41:47.76\00:41:49.30
then so you got
annual pilgrimage festivals,
00:41:49.33\00:41:52.46
then you got
new moons now what's
00:41:52.49\00:41:54.72
going to happen
with day of trumpets
00:41:54.75\00:41:56.08
and day of atonement, they don't
00:41:56.11\00:41:57.98
fall on that,
they don't fall on to
00:41:58.01\00:41:59.24
any of those two
where do they fall
00:41:59.27\00:42:00.95
this is what
fascinating as I dug deeply
00:42:00.98\00:42:02.88
into scripture
because I told you
00:42:02.91\00:42:04.15
at first I got confused, I also
00:42:04.18\00:42:05.62
thought oh
annual, monthly, weekly
00:42:05.65\00:42:07.35
but when I looked at the word
00:42:07.38\00:42:09.49
I found it does
not include these
00:42:09.52\00:42:11.94
others and then I look further
00:42:11.97\00:42:13.10
into the Old Testament and
00:42:13.13\00:42:14.36
into the
Septuagint, the translation
00:42:14.39\00:42:16.43
of the Hebrew
and I found that the
00:42:16.46\00:42:17.93
day of atonement
is directly called in
00:42:17.96\00:42:19.92
the Hebrew, a Shabbat and in
00:42:19.95\00:42:22.07
the it's called
a Sabbata the very
00:42:22.10\00:42:24.15
word that's here
in the Greek, yes,
00:42:24.18\00:42:25.70
for Sabbath, day of
atonement guess what,
00:42:25.73\00:42:28.36
the annual, the
sabbatical years they
00:42:28.39\00:42:32.07
are called Shabbat in the Hebrew
00:42:32.10\00:42:33.43
they are called Sabbata,
00:42:33.46\00:42:34.43
I believe they
fall under here and
00:42:34.44\00:42:36.49
the only one day feast that is
00:42:36.52\00:42:38.57
not been
mentioned so far is what
00:42:38.60\00:42:40.37
do you do with
the feast of the day
00:42:40.40\00:42:41.60
of trumpets, it's
called a Shabbaton,
00:42:41.63\00:42:43.69
it's mini
Sabbath and in some Greek
00:42:43.72\00:42:45.71
manuscripts it's
also called Sabbata,
00:42:45.74\00:42:47.18
same thing so, we
have annual pilgrimages,
00:42:47.21\00:42:50.19
monthly and then we end up with
00:42:50.22\00:42:53.67
annual non Seventh-day Sabbaths,
00:42:53.70\00:42:56.91
yes, yes, yes, and we can put up
00:42:56.94\00:42:58.85
that slide I'm
going to show that
00:42:58.88\00:42:59.85
you right now, we can visually
00:42:59.88\00:43:01.25
see it and it's
very interesting and then
00:43:01.28\00:43:02.83
the Greek supports that,
and that's why I have it,
00:43:02.86\00:43:04.46
you see and by
the way when you look
00:43:04.49\00:43:05.87
at this whole
thing linguistically,
00:43:05.90\00:43:08.09
semantically, structurally,
00:43:08.12\00:43:09.73
contextually,
everything of Colossians 2:16,
00:43:09.76\00:43:13.25
we have the annual that's OOA
00:43:13.28\00:43:16.21
this is the ABA
pattern, the yearly
00:43:16.24\00:43:18.53
Passover, Pentecost, Tabernacles
00:43:18.56\00:43:19.94
yearly pilgrim
festivals then you
00:43:19.97\00:43:21.69
have B the Lunar
celebration and there
00:43:21.72\00:43:24.48
were 235 lunar
celebration in 19 years
00:43:24.51\00:43:28.09
and because they didn't have
00:43:28.12\00:43:30.21
12 months in a
year exactly like we
00:43:30.24\00:43:31.92
have because
it's a lunar year then
00:43:31.95\00:43:33.92
these are the
monthly new moons and
00:43:33.95\00:43:35.33
finally again you have the
00:43:35.36\00:43:36.69
A or A+ I have your
trumpets, atonement,
00:43:36.72\00:43:39.11
Sabbatical years these are the
00:43:39.14\00:43:41.08
yearly plus
substantial ceremonial Sabbaths,
00:43:41.11\00:43:44.14
there is an ABA pattern.
It's not annual monthly,
00:43:44.17\00:43:47.70
weekly it's ABA
yearly monthly yearly.
00:43:47.73\00:43:54.42
People say no, no
Paul wouldn't do that oh
00:43:54.45\00:43:57.64
yes he did, we are
in Colossians, go to
00:43:57.67\00:43:59.67
5 verses later on, look at verse
00:43:59.70\00:44:01.24
21 read verse 21 to me.
00:44:01.27\00:44:03.25
Touch not, okay oh wait a minute
00:44:03.28\00:44:05.37
how do you
touch with what, hand,
00:44:05.40\00:44:06.82
with your hand
okay, right touch not,
00:44:06.85\00:44:08.56
taste not, you
taste with your mouth,
00:44:08.59\00:44:11.00
next one handle
not, okay what touch not,
00:44:11.03\00:44:13.91
taste not, handle not what has
00:44:13.94\00:44:16.23
Paul just done, ABA, here it is,
00:44:16.26\00:44:21.95
he's got it
right there okay this
00:44:21.98\00:44:24.20
is the common
way and they believe
00:44:24.23\00:44:25.37
this is a common
phrase. So that's
00:44:25.40\00:44:27.17
how they did this
repeatedly they had
00:44:27.20\00:44:29.10
this ABA pattern
touch not, taste not,
00:44:29.13\00:44:31.84
handle not and so
Paul is doing same thing
00:44:31.87\00:44:34.34
here in and it's
not just he is doing it,
00:44:34.37\00:44:37.19
it echoes back to Hosea
chapter 2 verse 11 yeah,
00:44:37.22\00:44:40.60
we have annual
pilgrimage feasts then
00:44:40.63\00:44:43.82
you have new moons,
the monthly ones and
00:44:43.85\00:44:45.98
then you have these annual
00:44:46.01\00:44:47.91
ceremonial Sabbaths,
yeah, it's fascinating
00:44:47.94\00:44:50.77
as you dig into the
language of the text,
00:44:50.80\00:44:52.52
the structure of the
text it's not annual,
00:44:52.55\00:44:55.27
monthly, weekly,
people think they see
00:44:55.30\00:44:57.14
it because they
don't do a deep study
00:44:57.17\00:44:59.16
of scripture they see
superficial similarities
00:44:59.19\00:45:01.55
to other texts
and conclude that.
00:45:01.58\00:45:03.44
Now the question of don't judge
00:45:03.47\00:45:05.86
that by the way you have to
00:45:05.89\00:45:08.28
look in the context again the
00:45:08.31\00:45:09.71
book of Colossians the best we
00:45:09.74\00:45:10.83
can see is there
were similarities to
00:45:10.86\00:45:12.87
the Judaizers,
they were Jewish people
00:45:12.90\00:45:15.37
who were coming
along to the people
00:45:15.40\00:45:16.71
in Corinth most
of them were Gentiles
00:45:16.74\00:45:18.81
in the church
and they were saying
00:45:18.84\00:45:19.93
to these Gentile
Christians you need to
00:45:19.96\00:45:22.20
keep these
ancient festivals, that is
00:45:22.23\00:45:27.71
pilgrimage
festivals, new moons and
00:45:27.74\00:45:29.82
ceremonial
Sabbaths and keep these
00:45:29.85\00:45:32.22
offerings as well and what is
00:45:32.25\00:45:34.19
Paul saying to the Colossians,
00:45:34.22\00:45:35.65
don't let anyone
modern language pass
00:45:35.68\00:45:38.83
judgment on you
or as one Bible has
00:45:38.86\00:45:42.89
put it let no one
pass unfavorable judgment
00:45:42.92\00:45:45.62
on you the word
Krino means that,
00:45:45.65\00:45:47.06
passing
unfavorable judgment on you,
00:45:47.09\00:45:49.62
Colossian
Christians because you are
00:45:49.65\00:45:52.10
not keeping these things,
00:45:52.13\00:45:53.71
yeah, I see, I
see, Paul is writing
00:45:53.74\00:45:55.78
to Colossians
who were being with
00:45:55.81\00:45:57.92
pressure coming
on them for some kind
00:45:57.95\00:46:00.35
of Judaizers,
right, right, don't
00:46:00.38\00:46:01.83
let anyone judge
you for on these issues
00:46:01.86\00:46:05.28
of these things that
have now been fulfilled.
00:46:05.31\00:46:08.75
So that' the best understanding
00:46:08.78\00:46:10.75
I gotten as I dug
deeply to rock bottom of it.
00:46:10.78\00:46:13.93
Praise the Lord.
Something popped up
00:46:13.96\00:46:17.16
in our mind because,
I, you know we talked
00:46:17.19\00:46:19.86
about shadows of things come in
00:46:19.89\00:46:21.12
and things I heard there and
00:46:21.15\00:46:22.28
I heard a well
known preacher just happen
00:46:22.31\00:46:24.82
to run to him
one Sunday morning,
00:46:24.85\00:46:26.42
he was saying
that, he was giving as
00:46:26.45\00:46:29.68
justification for
not keeping the Sabbath
00:46:29.71\00:46:31.40
that these
things were all shadows.
00:46:31.43\00:46:34.87
So how do you
differentiate between that
00:46:34.90\00:46:37.49
which is truly a shadow and that
00:46:37.52\00:46:39.48
which is an eternal precept such
00:46:39.51\00:46:41.26
as the Ten Commandments? Oh,
00:46:41.29\00:46:42.32
you know just
raising that question
00:46:42.35\00:46:44.72
opens up a lot of
interesting things. Yes,
00:46:44.75\00:46:46.54
the first thing is shadow and by
00:46:46.57\00:46:49.51
the way
hopefully we have settled.
00:46:49.54\00:46:50.79
If you look at the
language, the structure,
00:46:50.82\00:46:52.22
and the connections we don't
00:46:52.25\00:46:53.95
have the
Seventh-day Sabbath in the
00:46:53.98\00:46:55.11
text at all. Yes. We have annual
00:46:55.14\00:46:57.33
or yearly,
monthly, yearly, these are
00:46:57.36\00:47:00.15
ceremonial Sabbaths, yes. And as
00:47:00.18\00:47:02.00
we're going to
touch on that it before,
00:47:02.03\00:47:03.20
a questioned
popped into my mind,
00:47:03.23\00:47:04.20
there when you
go annual monthly,
00:47:04.21\00:47:07.21
back to annual and
not down to weekly.
00:47:07.24\00:47:09.15
Because imply that, that
means that's the Sabbath.
00:47:09.18\00:47:12.29
But linguistically
it doesn't follow.
00:47:12.32\00:47:14.05
It cannot, it
cannot, it's impossible.
00:47:14.08\00:47:15.62
Yeah, yeah, Okay,
now unfortunately,
00:47:15.65\00:47:17.25
there is a
little unfortunate most
00:47:17.28\00:47:18.87
of us don't read
Hebrew and Greek.
00:47:18.90\00:47:20.35
And so, we have to
rely on translations.
00:47:20.38\00:47:22.73
Now you've read the
King James, I am going
00:47:22.76\00:47:25.11
to read the New King
James. I want to show
00:47:25.14\00:47:26.53
you a very
important difference and
00:47:26.56\00:47:28.07
then we go to verse
17, the shadow issue.
00:47:28.10\00:47:29.44
Notice, mine says,
so, let no one judge
00:47:29.47\00:47:32.00
you in food or in
drink, or regarding
00:47:32.03\00:47:33.62
a festival King
James says a holy day
00:47:33.65\00:47:35.62
or a new moon and the King James
00:47:35.65\00:47:37.50
or the Sabbath
days, right. Now notice
00:47:37.53\00:47:40.59
the word days is
in Italics? It is;
00:47:40.62\00:47:43.81
It's in Italics
and anybody who knows
00:47:43.84\00:47:45.79
and reads the
introduction to the Bible.
00:47:45.82\00:47:47.46
When it's Italics its
added by the translators,
00:47:47.49\00:47:49.66
surely and is the
word there in Italics? No,
00:47:49.69\00:47:52.40
unfortunately it's
not and you know why?
00:47:52.43\00:47:54.83
Yeah, guess why.
The word The, Thy,
00:47:54.86\00:47:57.28
I looked at the
Thomas Neubauer edition
00:47:57.31\00:47:59.12
of the King James
Version and they put
00:47:59.15\00:48:00.61
the word The in
Italics. Yes, because
00:48:00.64\00:48:02.51
actually the word The is not
00:48:02.54\00:48:04.18
there in any Greek
manuscripts at all.
00:48:04.21\00:48:05.68
That shouldn't be
there, that shouldn't be there,
00:48:05.71\00:48:06.96
because The is
designation for the Sabbath,
00:48:06.99\00:48:08.40
correct, right, right, correct.
00:48:08.43\00:48:09.98
And I did a
complete study when I started
00:48:10.01\00:48:12.56
digging to this
issue and eventually
00:48:12.59\00:48:14.18
that's why I
wrote this book judging
00:48:14.21\00:48:15.37
the Sabbath. I
found it consistently
00:48:15.40\00:48:17.27
there are 111
times when the word
00:48:17.30\00:48:19.31
Shabbat is used in
the Old Testament, yes.
00:48:19.34\00:48:21.13
111, and of the 111, 85 percent
00:48:21.16\00:48:24.03
of the time it's used for the
00:48:24.06\00:48:25.47
Seventh-day
Sabbath and how do I know?
00:48:25.50\00:48:26.87
Because every time God impressed
00:48:26.90\00:48:29.21
the prophet to
write with certain
00:48:29.24\00:48:31.13
words to identify
what he is talking about.
00:48:31.16\00:48:33.20
Because like in
English we use the word trunk,
00:48:33.23\00:48:35.39
it could mean many
things. If I say to you,
00:48:35.42\00:48:37.12
where is that
trunk, you say which one?
00:48:37.15\00:48:38.57
The car, the storage,
the tree, or the elephant.
00:48:38.60\00:48:42.48
Yeah, if you're
working at the zoo, alright.
00:48:42.51\00:48:44.13
Unless I give you the
context you don't know
00:48:44.16\00:48:47.08
which, is it
right? Precisely yeah, and
00:48:47.11\00:48:48.70
so the word Shabbat
means different things.
00:48:48.73\00:48:50.25
It can be annual
Sabbaths, like day of atonement,
00:48:50.28\00:48:54.07
it can mean weekly
Sabbath, it can be the
00:48:54.10\00:48:56.02
same word for the
week Shabbat, seven days,
00:48:56.05\00:48:58.36
it can also mean
there was one more
00:48:58.39\00:49:00.69
thing but anyway it
means different things,
00:49:00.72\00:49:02.29
yeah and how do we know? What
00:49:02.32\00:49:03.93
I called linguistic
links, indicators, yes, yes.
00:49:03.96\00:49:06.27
Like the, the last year
I went to London you know,
00:49:06.30\00:49:09.59
you don't know
when it is but if I say
00:49:09.62\00:49:10.85
last year when I went to London,
00:49:10.88\00:49:12.54
you know it was
2009 in the context
00:49:12.57\00:49:14.18
of today and
the same way God had
00:49:14.21\00:49:16.83
the prophet put
linguistic links to
00:49:16.86\00:49:18.57
identify and so
we know what's the
00:49:18.60\00:49:21.04
Seventh-day
Sabbath and what's not.
00:49:21.07\00:49:22.04
Guess what consistently
in the Bible whenever
00:49:22.05\00:49:24.94
the word The
appears it doesn't always
00:49:24.97\00:49:27.00
but when it does
it's Seventh-day Sabbath.
00:49:27.03\00:49:28.43
Whenever the word Yom
day appears with Sabbath,
00:49:28.46\00:49:30.86
it's Seventh-day. Yes, and there
00:49:30.89\00:49:32.64
are multiple linguistic links.
00:49:32.67\00:49:33.83
Some times
they're three, four, five
00:49:33.86\00:49:35.76
around the word to identify.
00:49:35.79\00:49:37.25
Some times they're just one.
00:49:37.28\00:49:38.50
But it's always
clear. Now when its non
00:49:38.53\00:49:41.02
Seventh-day
Sabbaths, annual Sabbaths
00:49:41.05\00:49:42.60
extra they are
also linguistic links
00:49:42.63\00:49:44.50
that go with that.
Right, like a Sabbath, right.
00:49:44.53\00:49:47.46
Now although in
the Hebrews there
00:49:47.49\00:49:48.46
is no uh, it's just understood.
00:49:48.47\00:49:49.76
But if you use the
word afflict you're soul.
00:49:49.79\00:49:53.20
You never
afflict your soul on the
00:49:53.23\00:49:54.20
Seventh-day Sabbath,
that's the day of delight.
00:49:54.21\00:49:55.93
Yes. That goes with the Sabbath
00:49:55.96\00:49:58.62
of the day of
atonement. So you know
00:49:58.65\00:50:00.52
that there are
certain words that go with it.
00:50:00.55\00:50:02.34
And so my analysis
which was eventually published
00:50:02.37\00:50:04.65
here and which is
now I am working on my
00:50:04.68\00:50:06.22
PhD on this is, it's
consistent, the same with
00:50:06.25\00:50:08.56
the New Testament.
It became crystal clear.
00:50:08.59\00:50:10.45
God never
communicated in a confused way.
00:50:10.48\00:50:13.45
He is not author of
confusion. Yes, yeah,
00:50:13.48\00:50:15.63
and so when it's
translated sometimes
00:50:15.66\00:50:17.79
the translators
slips up because they
00:50:17.82\00:50:19.75
and this is one of
them. That's one of them;
00:50:19.78\00:50:21.91
yeah this is one of
them, that's one of them.
00:50:21.94\00:50:22.91
I use the King James; right now
00:50:22.92\00:50:24.57
I am using the New King James.
00:50:24.60\00:50:25.57
I study the
Bible, but here the King
00:50:25.58\00:50:27.21
James put the word The in and
00:50:27.24\00:50:28.32
they didn't tell you,
it should been Italics.
00:50:28.35\00:50:30.47
It is not
Seventh-day Sabbath, there is
00:50:30.50\00:50:32.53
no Greek to support
that, the translators forgot
00:50:32.56\00:50:35.20
to Italicize and
in the Thomas Neubauer
00:50:35.23\00:50:37.53
edition
published it on 1890 or so,
00:50:37.56\00:50:39.51
they put it in
Italics fixing up what the
00:50:39.54\00:50:42.09
KJV translators forgot to do.
00:50:42.12\00:50:43.46
So it's not Seventh-day.
So remember once you
00:50:43.49\00:50:46.39
recognized that
there is no linguistic
00:50:46.42\00:50:48.54
links to prove it
Seventh-day instead
00:50:48.57\00:50:50.49
everything proves
it's not Seventh-day.
00:50:50.52\00:50:52.25
Now you know
it's all what we call
00:50:52.28\00:50:54.07
ceremonial
Sabbaths. Now which are,
00:50:54.10\00:50:56.42
a shadow of things to come, yes.
00:50:56.45\00:50:59.70
These ceremonial
Sabbaths are shadows
00:50:59.73\00:51:02.16
pointing
forward to whom, but the
00:51:02.19\00:51:05.13
substance is of
Christ. And by the way,
00:51:05.16\00:51:07.49
the Bible will
identify this is important,
00:51:07.52\00:51:09.14
the Bible
identifies what are shadows.
00:51:09.17\00:51:11.81
And so we know that these
00:51:11.84\00:51:14.10
ceremonial activities,
these pointed to Christ.
00:51:14.13\00:51:17.23
The Seventh-day Sabbath is never
00:51:17.26\00:51:18.81
spoken of as a
shadow, actually never is.
00:51:18.84\00:51:21.12
No, no. There are
69 words Sabbata or
00:51:21.15\00:51:24.58
Sabbaton in the New Testament.
00:51:24.61\00:51:25.98
And all of them
nine are translated
00:51:26.01\00:51:28.05
as week correctly, and then 59
00:51:28.08\00:51:29.79
are translated as
Seventh-day Sabbath
00:51:29.82\00:51:32.35
with the capital S,
this is interesting.
00:51:32.38\00:51:33.99
The New King
James version consistent
00:51:34.02\00:51:36.23
to a T, actually to an S. Okay,
00:51:36.26\00:51:39.26
constituent to an
S. When ever in the
00:51:39.29\00:51:42.59
New Testament the New King James
00:51:42.62\00:51:43.96
translated the
Seventh-day Sabbath
00:51:43.99\00:51:46.08
looking at the
linguistic links, the word day
00:51:46.11\00:51:48.63
the word keep, the word THE,
00:51:48.66\00:51:49.89
it's always with a capital S.
00:51:49.92\00:51:51.41
Yes, when they come
to the word that says
00:51:51.44\00:51:53.45
on the first Mia Ton
Sabbaton, on the first
00:51:53.48\00:51:56.25
of the Sabbata
they used the word week.
00:51:56.28\00:51:58.01
But when they got
notice, when the New King James
00:51:58.04\00:52:01.43
translators this
in the New Testament
00:52:01.46\00:52:03.03
to the word
Sabbata in Colossians 2:16,
00:52:03.06\00:52:06.90
guess what?
Capital S or lower case,
00:52:06.93\00:52:09.50
lower case,
lower case, yes, yes,
00:52:09.53\00:52:11.59
and they were
right. The only time in
00:52:11.62\00:52:13.65
the entire New
Testament the New King James
00:52:13.68\00:52:16.03
translators, are the
Seventh-day Adventists?
00:52:16.06\00:52:17.73
No, as far as I know not
one Seventh-day Adventists
00:52:17.76\00:52:19.84
was on this
translation committee.
00:52:19.87\00:52:21.44
And it's not just them,
when the Holman Christian
00:52:21.47\00:52:24.10
Standard Bible
translators did that.
00:52:24.13\00:52:26.10
They did it consistently,
the only lower case S
00:52:26.13\00:52:30.32
in the entire New
Testament is what?
00:52:30.35\00:52:32.16
Colossians 2:16,
when the New English Bible
00:52:32.19\00:52:34.42
was translated
on the other side of
00:52:34.45\00:52:36.02
the pond as they say.
Indeed, consistent, yeah,
00:52:36.05\00:52:39.32
amazing, yeah. I am
saying, wait a minute,
00:52:39.35\00:52:41.33
how come these translators from
00:52:41.36\00:52:43.10
different
continents correctly identified
00:52:43.13\00:52:45.73
this with the
small S, because this is
00:52:45.76\00:52:47.42
not the
Seventh-day Sabbath, they knew
00:52:47.45\00:52:48.99
the linguistic
links forced them to
00:52:49.02\00:52:50.87
be honest, yes,
yes. It has to be;
00:52:50.90\00:52:53.31
now we have
couple of things because
00:52:53.34\00:52:55.38
time has slipped
away from us. So what,
00:52:55.41\00:52:57.22
these are all
shadows, yes. Now one thing,
00:52:57.25\00:52:58.95
they say of
things to come. But you
00:52:58.98\00:53:01.26
see the writer goes back in time
00:53:01.29\00:53:03.53
and he speaks from
when they were originated.
00:53:03.56\00:53:05.92
These are
shadows of feast to come,
00:53:05.95\00:53:07.96
looking there from
vantage point, and how
00:53:07.99\00:53:11.05
do we know?
Matthew 11:14 and those
00:53:11.08\00:53:13.69
who are at home
just right it down.
00:53:13.72\00:53:14.85
Matthew 11:14,
Jesus is talking and
00:53:14.88\00:53:17.48
he says, talking
about this is the Elijah
00:53:17.51\00:53:20.08
who is to come
literally, yes, yes, and
00:53:20.11\00:53:22.44
who is talking
about? Jesus, Jesus was
00:53:22.47\00:53:24.62
talking about John,
yes, yes, that's right.
00:53:24.65\00:53:28.37
Jesus is talking
about John, guess what?
00:53:28.40\00:53:30.68
John was already
there. And yet Jesus says
00:53:30.71\00:53:32.37
John is the Elijah
who is to come. Yes, yes.
00:53:32.40\00:53:36.50
What is Jesus
doing, he was going back
00:53:36.53\00:53:38.29
in time to the
time of Malachi and he
00:53:38.32\00:53:39.87
was kind of
quoting the text, Paul is
00:53:39.90\00:53:42.13
doing the same. Yeah, these are
00:53:42.16\00:53:43.76
shadows of things to
come. I am kind of excited,
00:53:43.79\00:53:47.82
but I got to sort of put
a pin in it for a second,
00:53:47.85\00:53:50.13
we've got to get
your contact information.
00:53:50.16\00:53:51.88
Okay. And there
is one other thing
00:53:51.91\00:53:53.29
I want to ask you on
the other side of that
00:53:53.32\00:53:54.69
before time gets
away from us and it has
00:53:54.72\00:53:56.71
flown. Should you
want to learn more
00:53:56.74\00:54:00.38
about this or perhaps
even have Dr. Du Preez
00:54:00.41\00:54:04.18
come to speech your
group to talk to you,
00:54:04.21\00:54:06.67
get little more
light here then is
00:54:06.70\00:54:09.03
the contact information
that you want to have.
00:54:09.06\00:54:11.43
If you would like
to contact Ron du Preez
00:54:11.46\00:54:16.13
then you can
write to Ron du Preez,
00:54:16.16\00:54:18.13
PO Box 19009, Lansing, MI 48901,
00:54:18.16\00:54:23.63
you can call 517-316-1586,
that's 517-316-1586
00:54:34.95\00:54:41.62
or email him at
faithethics@yahoo.com.
00:54:41.65\00:54:44.53
It's all one word,
faithethics@yahoo.com.
00:54:44.56\00:54:48.65
Call or write to him today.
00:54:48.68\00:54:50.19
He would love to hear from you.
00:54:50.22\00:54:51.80
Good information
and do may contact.
00:54:58.67\00:55:00.61
And we're
probably going to going out
00:55:00.64\00:55:02.37
in this but we
cannot really discussed this
00:55:02.40\00:55:04.38
in total without
asking for any spirit
00:55:04.41\00:55:06.58
of prophecy quotes
that weigh in on this.
00:55:06.61\00:55:08.30
We will probably
go out on this but
00:55:08.33\00:55:10.32
I want to just give you a chance
00:55:10.35\00:55:11.32
to talk about that,
to give us some balance.
00:55:11.33\00:55:12.95
Yes, we as
Seventh-day Adventists
00:55:12.98\00:55:14.39
have been
blessed by this gift and
00:55:14.42\00:55:16.00
Ellen White has written
some powerful statements,
00:55:16.03\00:55:17.99
Patriarchs and
Prophets page 365 says,
00:55:18.02\00:55:20.02
The ceremonial
system was made up of
00:55:20.05\00:55:22.14
symbols pointing
to Christ, yes, to
00:55:22.17\00:55:24.30
His sacrifice
and His priesthood.
00:55:24.33\00:55:25.88
This ritual law,
with its sacrifices
00:55:25.91\00:55:27.65
and ordinances,
was to be performed
00:55:27.68\00:55:29.35
by the Hebrews until type met
00:55:29.38\00:55:31.96
antitype in the death of Christ,
00:55:31.99\00:55:33.60
the Lamb of God that taketh away
00:55:33.63\00:55:34.80
the sin of the
world. Then all the
00:55:34.83\00:55:36.51
sacrificial
offerings were to cease,
00:55:36.54\00:55:37.93
it is this law that
Christ took out of the way
00:55:37.96\00:55:40.63
nailing it to his
cross. Colossians 2:40
00:55:40.66\00:55:42.84
there are Ellen White's words.
00:55:42.87\00:55:43.84
Clearly accepting
it and believing it
00:55:43.85\00:55:45.45
and then she goes
further. And this is
00:55:45.48\00:55:47.24
now in the Review
and Herald June 14, 1898,
00:55:47.27\00:55:51.89
these rites and
ceremonies no longer
00:55:51.92\00:55:54.32
possessed any
virtue; for type was
00:55:54.35\00:55:56.75
meeting antitype.
The Gospel made the rites
00:55:56.78\00:55:59.10
and ceremonies no
longer of any force,
00:55:59.13\00:56:00.92
to continue these rites would be
00:56:00.95\00:56:04.62
an insult to
Jehovah. Strong words,
00:56:04.65\00:56:09.25
but why would have
be an insult to Jehovah,
00:56:09.28\00:56:11.26
because the
Messiah has come, yeah,
00:56:11.29\00:56:13.36
he's all pointed
to Jesus the Lamb
00:56:13.39\00:56:15.03
of God who was slain,
he fulfilled these things
00:56:15.06\00:56:18.21
that best way if
we look at that's
00:56:18.24\00:56:20.24
beautiful picture,
Jesus was the Lamb.
00:56:20.27\00:56:22.42
Yes. He is the
priest also but all of
00:56:22.45\00:56:25.25
this points, and right now he is
00:56:25.28\00:56:26.63
interceding on
your behalf and on my
00:56:26.66\00:56:28.45
behalf as the
book of Hebrews points
00:56:28.48\00:56:30.39
out so beautiful. Amen. Let me
00:56:30.42\00:56:32.26
commend to you in enclosing
00:56:32.29\00:56:33.65
this book,
"Judging the Sabbath," a
00:56:33.68\00:56:35.60
wonderful book that
you will want to get.
00:56:35.63\00:56:37.62
So much that we can talk,
00:56:37.65\00:56:39.67
but our time has really shot by.
00:56:39.70\00:56:41.76
This has been an
incredible study,
00:56:41.79\00:56:44.15
one that I am very much invested
00:56:44.18\00:56:46.40
in and very, very excited about.
00:56:46.43\00:56:48.08
Study for
yourself, the Bible says
00:56:48.11\00:56:50.17
study to show thyself improve.
00:56:50.20\00:56:51.61
Always keep your mind and heart
00:56:51.64\00:56:53.67
open to truth
and the word of God
00:56:53.70\00:56:55.65
and you will be
where God wants you to be.
00:56:55.68\00:56:58.18
Our time has indeed
slipped into eternity,
00:56:58.21\00:57:00.55
a last then closing
now to wish you both
00:57:00.58\00:57:02.27
grace and peace through our Lord
00:57:02.30\00:57:05.09
and Savior Jesus Christ.
00:57:05.12\00:57:06.09
We'll see you again
soon, bye, bye and God bless.
00:57:06.10\00:57:08.22