Hello and welcome
to "3ABN today" live.
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Thank you for joining us.
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We love to come
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and join hands with
you from around the world.
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And I, as I always
say, thank you for your love
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and your prayers and
financial support of 3ABN,
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as we endeavor to take this
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gospel of the
kingdom into all the world.
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Tonight, I have some
of your favorite speakers,
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here at 3ABN live.
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So little later, in the program
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because I'm sure
there's going to be
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a lot of folk who
want to ask questions.
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So if you can-- as
we're progressing here
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if you've questions,
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we'll try to take
some in the second hour.
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But the first hour we
have some exciting news
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we're going to talk to them,
I'm gonna start with Ty Gibson.
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Ty, it's good to have you here.
It's good to see you, Danny.
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And Co-Director of
Light Bearers Ministry
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and for how many years?
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How many years, it's
got to be over 25 years.
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Have mercy, you're
almost since 3ABN. Long time.
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We were youngsters
back then, right. We were.
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You were especially young.
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You're still quite a
few years younger than me.
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You still look young to me.
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Well, I eat a lot of
blueberries. Oh, that's good.
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Did a lot of
exercise and a lot of romance.
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Oh, really.
That's the way to do.
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Those are the three
great laws of health.
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Okay, all right. We'll abide.
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Well, how about
the guy next to you.
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Do you know who
he is? I do, David.
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David Asscherick,
pastor, how you are doing?
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Did you really just
called those the three--
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The three great laws of health.
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Blueberries,
exercise and romance.
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You know, you agree.
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Yeah, I don't
disagree. I heard it here first.
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But he may have more
than just three. He may have--
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Oh, that's to add to the
list. There are few others.
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We won't have
everybody writing us
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and putting all the other list.
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But that's you
just gave some of it.
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Danny, you've brought it
up, I didn't bring it up.
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Okay, I brought it up, okay.
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Well, listen I'm
speaking to that,
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I'm glad I've
brought up the subject
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that you all are
here tonight. Yeah.
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And you got some great news,
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you're going to
be telling us about,
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as far as your ministry is
going and what you're doing.
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Then we're going
to talk about what?
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What's our subject
tonight? Territorial, what?
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Territorial Forces.
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Forces, that
sounds like some movie
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that would be out there, right.
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Was not any movie
that's out there and--
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but it's
definitely a living drama
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that is brought
to viewing scripture
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from Genesis to Revelation.
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And we're right
in that time that
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all of this is happening, right.
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We sure are. Wow. Yes.
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Okay, you don't want
to miss this tonight.
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It's going to be a great topic.
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It's two hours
but before we do that
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we're going to
have some special music.
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And I think he's one of the--
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to me he's one of my
old time favorite singers.
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And it's Neville Peters.
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And Neville has an
incredible gift for music.
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And he is also a song writer.
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And he is singing the
song, "Carry You." All right.
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You're on the narrow road
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And I have been
with you all along
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This race that you're running
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Is not given to the strong
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I know sometimes you're weary
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And faith is hard to find
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You feel you'll
never reach the finish line
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But that's when I carry you
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That's when I carry you
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I have kept you
through the storm
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You have never been alone
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I'll carry you
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Yes, I'll carry you
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When the road is much
too hard to make it through
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I will carry you
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Listen, I'm with
you when you're hurtling
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I know how hard you try
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To bear your heavy burdens
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I'm near you when you cry
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I know sometimes it's easy
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To believe our hope is gone
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When there is no
more strength To carry on
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But that's when I carry you
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That's when I carry you
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I have kept you
through the storms
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You have never been alone
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I'll carry you
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Yes, I will carry you my child
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When the road is much
too hard to make it through
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I'll carry you
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You may not
understand what's going on
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You may not have
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the strength to be strong
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But that's when I carry you
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That's when I carry you
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I have kept you
through the storm
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You've never been alone
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I'll carry you
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Yes, I will carry you
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When the road is much
too hard to make it through
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I will carry you
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Yes, I will carry you
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I have kept you
through the storm
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You have never been alone
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I'll carry you
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Yes, I will carry you
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When the road is much
too hard to make it through
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I will carry you
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Yes, I will I'll carry you
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Yes, I will I will carry you
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Amen.
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Well, what you
guys think about that.
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Oh, beautiful.
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Isn't that,
isn't that incredible.
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One of my favorite voices.
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Some of these things
and life here is not fair.
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When we get to
heaven, can you imagine,
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we'll get to sing like that too?
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But Neville is a great guy.
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You said, you've
traveled with him,
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staying with him--
been with him in England.
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Yeah, I have been with him
in several speaking appointments
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and he always adds so
much to the preaching.
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The music, he just
makes the messages come home.
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Very, very
spiritual person. Yeah.
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And I really love him.
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He's one of our
not only our friends
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but one of my greatest
singers I love to listen to.
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And what a
talent and I'm thankful
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that he is on God's side. Amen.
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Well, something tonight--
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you're watching
this program tonight
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that the last few
weeks I have been watching
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and I'm sure you have too, a
lot of the election going on.
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But one of the
things here tonight,
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you can be sure these folks
are going to tell you the truth.
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Because I have been
listening to these elections
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and it seems like both
sides are having trouble.
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You know, telling the truth
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and no matter
what one person does,
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the other one dogs him
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and then when he
does the same thing,
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the other side dogs him.
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So don't you get
tired of all that.
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I'm ready to hear some
"does saith the Lord." Yes.
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And forget all of
this battling going on.
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And say, you know, the
battle is the Lords. Yes.
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And lets get involved in some
good spiritual uplifting things.
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You can--kind of get
depressed when you turn on news.
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Not just that but news
in general. Absolutely.
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That's going around,
they love to put out bad news.
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Tonight, folks, we
got some good news.
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So call your
friends, your relatives,
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your family, your
enemies, everybody.
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Tell them to turn on the 3ABN.
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We got a couple
of preachers here.
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This gonna give
us some good upbeat
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positive word from the Lord.
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But before we get into that,
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we want you to talk
about your ministries
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and what's happened.
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We know, David,
of course from Arise.
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You're from Light Bearers.
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But I hear something
that's happened sometime ago.
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Tell us about it.
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Well, it has been sometime ago.
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So it's a little bit old
news for a lot of people.
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But about a year and
half ago, is it more than
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a year and a half
now. Yeah, little bit.
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Yeah, yeah going
on two years ago,
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our two ministries
merged into one ministry.
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And as you
mentioned I have been involved
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with Light Bearers
for a number of years
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and James Rafferty my
partner now also David's partner
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because three of us
are basically running
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these two ministry together.
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And yeah, so Light Bearers
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as a publishing
ministry, preaching ministry,
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evangelistic
ministry over the years,
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a video production
ministry over the years
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and then David with
Arise-- how long that's,
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how long has that been going on.
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And what is it been involved in.
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Well, we're presently
in the middle of our--
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we're actually
teaching right now.
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We just have flown out.
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We fly back, we're in the
middle of our tenth class ever
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and our twelfth
year of doing Arise.
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And Ty mentioned that
Light Bearers was a publishing.
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What did you say,
publishing, preaching
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and evangelism
ministry. Yes, yeah.
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And the great
thing about the merger,
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Danny, is that
Arise was primarily
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a training and
preaching ministry.
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So Ty has his
preaching ministry,
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James has his
preaching ministry,
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I have my preaching ministry
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and we also Jeffery
Rosario on board with us.
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But there
wasn't a lot of overlap
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in terms of the other
things that we were doing.
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We were primarily
involved in training.
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They were primarily
involved in publishing
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and so it's been
a very synergistic
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and just
synchronists coming together.
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And you know I think we were
sort of poised for the worse.
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You know, you're sort of--
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you know you wait for
the honeymoon period to past
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and then you're like,
you know, why do you do that.
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And that's a little annoying.
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But we're still smooth
sailing. It's just been.
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It has been phenomenally free
of obstacles and difficulties.
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There're people who warned us.
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People said, you shouldn't
try to merge two ministries,
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especially with
strong personalities,
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Type A personalities
who like to get things done
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and have vision and like
to lay plans and execute them.
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People said, no you shouldn't
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put personalities
like that together
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but we saw the Lord
leading in this direction
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and we had unanimous support
from both of our ministries
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both staff and board
members. And supporters.
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Yeah and supporters,
everybody on both sides
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the two ministries,
when they saw the vision
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for these two
ministries working together
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we had 100% support.
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And so we hit the gas pedal
and we've been sailing right.
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And David mentioned,
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I will just emphasize that
right now while we're here,
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we have 45 students. Wow.
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That maybe some of them
are watching this evening
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and they're with
us for four months.
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That's the training
program called Arise.
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And David called
it a training program,
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it's also a
discipleship program.
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Imagine this, Danny,
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45-50 mostly young
people come together
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and they
essentially live with us
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for three and a half months
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and we interact with
them around the word.
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And we befriend
them and they ask--
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and we just grow
together spiritually
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and that's the
discipleship program.
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That's what Arise was doing for
nine years and continues to do.
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Now it's a part of this merger.
And it's just a blessing, so--
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Wonderful, well then I'm
sure if I ask you the question,
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you can answer the same as
people have asked Jim Gilley
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when he goes places.
They ask me, CA. Murray said
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everywhere I
go, people will say,
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you guys look like
you just have so much fun
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and you get along on T.V.
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Now, tell us the truth
how do you really get along.
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Do you really like each
other? Oh, he's my neighbor.
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He's not only one
of my co-directors.
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Well, I can see his house.
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I can throw a
rock over his house.
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We have binoculars actually
in one of our windows. Yeah.
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Do you really.
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Well, see that's it--
Jim Gilley is my neighbor.
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So we see each
other and he has a barn
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and lets me keep a
couple of my horses in--
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in his barn but no
one can go over there.
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Yeah, I keep my
cows over Ty's house.
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We go, oh good, okay.
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We go out to eat together
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and of course
we love each other.
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And you guys
too, I can tell that.
00:14:09.56\00:14:11.61
Yeah, we enjoy working together.
00:14:11.64\00:14:12.93
And that was the
foundation of the merger, Danny.
00:14:12.96\00:14:15.95
Yeah, that's right.
00:14:15.98\00:14:17.01
It was the friendship that
we've developed over the years.
00:14:17.04\00:14:19.57
And you've so much in
common and I mean the direction
00:14:19.60\00:14:22.30
you guys are going
ministry wise you want.
00:14:22.33\00:14:24.89
Yeah. You know.
00:14:24.92\00:14:25.95
The idea literally came
up in a phone conversation
00:14:25.98\00:14:29.79
and neither one of us
expected the idea to even come.
00:14:29.82\00:14:33.42
Just suddenly in a conversation,
00:14:33.45\00:14:36.54
we were talking
and just envisioning
00:14:36.57\00:14:39.55
what could be done for
the advancement of the gospel.
00:14:39.58\00:14:42.61
And just suddenly out of nowhere
00:14:42.64\00:14:44.11
we thought, well,
wait a minute...wow.
00:14:44.14\00:14:46.21
May be we could work together
Maybe we should work together.
00:14:46.24\00:14:48.16
Yeah, that
would-- that's an idea.
00:14:48.19\00:14:49.95
And we just
started exploring it.
00:14:49.98\00:14:52.33
And of course James, he was also
00:14:52.36\00:14:56.68
in the conversations
as well as the thing
00:14:56.71\00:14:59.79
continued going after
the initial conversation
00:14:59.82\00:15:01.84
that David and I had.
00:15:01.87\00:15:03.83
And James is one 100%
in favor of this merger.
00:15:03.86\00:15:08.14
So it's been, it
just been a blessing.
00:15:08.17\00:15:09.86
So we have a team of people
00:15:09.89\00:15:11.64
who are all about taking
the gospel to the world as fast
00:15:11.67\00:15:14.78
and as far as possible
and it's just a great joy.
00:15:14.81\00:15:17.66
And in pairs you can do more
together than you could apart.
00:15:17.69\00:15:20.76
That was the
question. That's right, yeah.
00:15:20.79\00:15:22.34
The way that we finally
pulled the trigger on the merger
00:15:22.37\00:15:24.52
is we said this really
comes down to a single question.
00:15:24.55\00:15:26.90
And the answer to that question
00:15:26.93\00:15:28.00
and that is can
we do more jointly
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than we could do separately.
00:15:30.93\00:15:33.00
And as soon as we felt that
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the answer to
that question was yes
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and not just yes,
but certainly yes.
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Then it was just a
matter of pulling the trigger
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and we're almost
two years into this
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now, getting
close to two years and--
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And I still like David.
I like Ty more than I did.
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I mean it's just-- Yeah, good.
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It's one of those
things where there were so many
00:15:51.48\00:15:54.33
little providential indications
00:15:54.36\00:15:55.94
and evidences along
the way from James' side,
00:15:55.97\00:15:58.10
from our side, from
Ty side that it was--
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you just fell like you're a
part of something God was doing.
00:16:01.22\00:16:02.86
It wasn't something
that the man sort of created
00:16:02.89\00:16:04.93
and put this thing together.
00:16:04.96\00:16:06.16
This was the thing
that God was doing.
00:16:06.19\00:16:07.34
We were kind of
along for the ride.
00:16:07.37\00:16:09.23
And when, when we are following
00:16:09.26\00:16:11.40
what the Lord is
doing, what God is doing,
00:16:11.43\00:16:13.10
then we just have to
sort of get on the board
00:16:13.13\00:16:15.36
and enjoy it and
it's been awesome.
00:16:15.39\00:16:17.30
It's been exciting.
00:16:17.33\00:16:18.38
Isn't it exciting to
work for the Lord? Oh, sure.
00:16:18.41\00:16:20.70
And to know that
God has given you
00:16:20.73\00:16:22.35
a special message
to give to the world.
00:16:22.38\00:16:24.37
And I've had people asked me.
00:16:24.40\00:16:25.76
Are you ever
discouraged? Have you ever been?
00:16:25.79\00:16:27.59
I said, absolutely not.
00:16:27.62\00:16:28.82
But then it take millions
of dollars year to for 3ABN.
00:16:28.85\00:16:31.96
I said, absolutely
but that's not my problem,
00:16:31.99\00:16:34.02
that God's, He-- What He starts,
00:16:34.05\00:16:35.90
you know, He
will finish it. Yeah.
00:16:35.93\00:16:36.96
As long as we're
true to the message.
00:16:36.99\00:16:38.83
And then going back to
what I was saying earlier.
00:16:38.86\00:16:41.82
Isn't it wonderful to work
00:16:41.85\00:16:44.52
and when you know that God
is on your side? That's right.
00:16:44.55\00:16:47.57
And that He has
given you a message
00:16:47.60\00:16:49.32
to get to world to see.
00:16:49.35\00:16:50.40
All of this we were
watching on television,
00:16:50.43\00:16:52.10
it's particularly now.
00:16:52.13\00:16:53.83
There--nobody is
going to fix this economy.
00:16:53.86\00:16:55.92
I don't care this side
got this five point plan
00:16:55.95\00:16:58.28
and they got their five point.
00:16:58.31\00:16:59.82
I don't care if its
50 point and fifty point,
00:16:59.85\00:17:02.02
nobody is going
to fix this economy.
00:17:02.05\00:17:03.84
Do you agree with that? I agree.
00:17:03.87\00:17:05.14
There is only one answer
00:17:05.17\00:17:06.81
that's going to
fix all the problems
00:17:06.84\00:17:08.34
that we the human race has
00:17:08.37\00:17:09.98
and that's the
Lord Jesus Christ.
00:17:10.01\00:17:11.45
And that's when we submit
and commit our lives to Him
00:17:11.48\00:17:14.69
that we have an escape.
00:17:14.72\00:17:16.25
We're all born
terminal, right. That's right.
00:17:16.28\00:17:17.95
And so the only
way out of this mess
00:17:17.98\00:17:20.05
is not to depend on
man but to depend on God.
00:17:20.08\00:17:22.54
So I'm gonna encourage
you to do that tonight. Amen.
00:17:22.57\00:17:24.54
As we get into this.
00:17:24.57\00:17:25.60
But you guys
speaking of ministry,
00:17:25.63\00:17:27.16
tell me about what I
have in my hands a DVD.
00:17:27.19\00:17:29.86
And it says 'A Light in Zambia.'
00:17:29.89\00:17:31.50
Now, is this a
free offer tonight?
00:17:31.53\00:17:33.27
That is the free offer tonight.
00:17:33.30\00:17:34.49
And we really
want everybody to--
00:17:34.52\00:17:36.65
its free number one.
00:17:36.68\00:17:38.34
But it's not free
because it's something
00:17:38.37\00:17:41.15
that is of low
quality or low interest.
00:17:41.18\00:17:43.97
Now, I'm going to keep this one
00:17:44.00\00:17:45.21
and you said it's
free, so I've already.
00:17:45.24\00:17:47.50
This is a video
that's only 28 minutes long
00:17:47.53\00:17:50.69
that documents our work,
00:17:50.72\00:17:52.08
the work of
Light Bearers in Zambia
00:17:52.11\00:17:54.90
and it weaves
the stories of three
00:17:54.93\00:17:58.66
maybe four
individuals in Zambia together.
00:17:58.69\00:18:01.78
You'll encounter the stories
of these people from Zambia
00:18:01.81\00:18:04.67
and how they've
encountered the gospel
00:18:04.70\00:18:07.04
through the literature
ministry of Light Bearers.
00:18:07.07\00:18:10.16
And it's free, we
want people to get it
00:18:10.19\00:18:12.26
and you'll just love it.
00:18:12.29\00:18:14.04
A picture, picture
paints a thousand words.
00:18:14.07\00:18:16.45
So you can call
us at 618-627-4651
00:18:16.48\00:18:20.45
or you can email
us freeoffer@3ABN.org,
00:18:20.63\00:18:24.63
freeoffer @3abn.org.
00:18:24.94\00:18:27.98
And call us 618-627-4651.
00:18:28.01\00:18:31.89
So we encourage each
of you to get one of these
00:18:31.92\00:18:34.15
because right now I'm
finding this more and more
00:18:34.18\00:18:37.48
and we become what we behold.
00:18:37.51\00:18:40.58
And the more that we put
keep our eyes on the word of God
00:18:40.61\00:18:44.12
but a picture,
thank the Lord for DVD's
00:18:44.15\00:18:46.77
because we want to see
what you're doing. Yeah.
00:18:46.80\00:18:48.99
We want to be able to see
it, not just here about it.
00:18:49.02\00:18:50.85
We want to be able to see it.
00:18:50.88\00:18:52.74
And today I was talking to
Garwin McNeilus in Dodge Center.
00:18:52.77\00:18:58.45
He was telling me
about a new project
00:18:58.48\00:19:01.42
and he says
that he has got this,
00:19:01.45\00:19:03.64
I'll let him unveil it
00:19:03.67\00:19:05.28
but it's along the
one-day school, one-day church.
00:19:05.31\00:19:07.98
And it's
absolutely so incredible,
00:19:08.01\00:19:09.71
it brought me to tears
00:19:09.74\00:19:11.20
because it's going to be
centered for young people.
00:19:11.23\00:19:14.16
And I said, you know,
00:19:14.19\00:19:16.04
when you think
about what he is doing
00:19:16.07\00:19:18.03
and this we were
talking about Chad today.
00:19:18.06\00:19:20.75
What they're doing
and the vision they have
00:19:20.78\00:19:22.66
and the hope and encouragement
bringing to children,
00:19:22.69\00:19:25.63
who might not
otherwise have a chance,
00:19:25.66\00:19:27.69
not only physically in life
00:19:27.72\00:19:29.01
but spiritually and people
care enough. That's right.
00:19:29.04\00:19:32.30
To say we're
going to support this.
00:19:32.33\00:19:33.74
We're going to go
forward and people like Neilus'
00:19:33.77\00:19:36.61
you know my hats
off to you, McKee's.
00:19:36.64\00:19:39.61
All these other
folk, Graham Rouse.
00:19:39.64\00:19:41.08
These folks who are out there,
00:19:41.11\00:19:42.30
the Smiths' in Canada,
00:19:42.33\00:19:43.64
that's out there
giving in big ways.
00:19:43.67\00:19:45.97
They could all be
relaxing and enjoying life
00:19:46.00\00:19:47.88
but you know what they're doing,
00:19:47.91\00:19:49.14
constantly what more can
we do for Jesus. That's right.
00:19:49.17\00:19:51.59
And the question I think
00:19:51.62\00:19:52.68
we're going to
have to face one day is,
00:19:52.71\00:19:54.59
what have you done
for me when we face God?
00:19:54.62\00:19:57.20
What is it that we've done?
00:19:57.23\00:19:58.52
It's one thing
for these guys to say,
00:19:58.55\00:20:00.65
you know, we're
going to pray for you, Ty.
00:20:00.68\00:20:02.86
We're going to
pray for you, David.
00:20:02.89\00:20:05.65
You know, and we pray for you.
00:20:05.68\00:20:07.31
But it's another thing to say,
00:20:07.34\00:20:08.38
we're going to pray for you
00:20:08.41\00:20:09.44
and financially
support you. Yeah.
00:20:09.47\00:20:11.59
So I think all
of us are blessed.
00:20:11.62\00:20:13.73
If you have a T.V. and
you're able to watch this
00:20:13.76\00:20:15.98
and you got dish or
you got whatever tells me
00:20:16.01\00:20:18.67
that you're ahead of most
of the people on planet earth.
00:20:18.70\00:20:22.29
That tonight as
you're listening,
00:20:22.32\00:20:23.74
we want you to pray
and ask the Holy Spirit.
00:20:23.77\00:20:25.69
What would you have me to do
00:20:25.72\00:20:27.75
in support of
this great ministry
00:20:27.78\00:20:29.79
of taking the
gospel to the world. Amen.
00:20:29.82\00:20:31.44
All right, now I have
done my talking for tonight.
00:20:31.47\00:20:33.90
So you two guys program
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and I want you to lead us
in this 'Territorial Forces'.
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And tell us what's coming
and what we're going to looking.
00:20:39.49\00:20:43.43
What we're facing
between now when Jesus comes.
00:20:43.46\00:20:47.05
All right, Danny, well
the premise of the concept
00:20:47.08\00:20:51.01
'Territorial Forces' is
that our world planet earth
00:20:51.04\00:20:54.94
and the human race is a
territory under dispute. Okay.
00:20:54.97\00:21:00.13
Okay, so the human
race is in the crosshairs
00:21:00.16\00:21:05.46
as it were of an enemy
00:21:05.49\00:21:07.72
who is focused
on taking this world
00:21:07.75\00:21:12.23
and individual human hearts,
00:21:12.26\00:21:13.59
men, women and children,
cities, villages, countries,
00:21:13.62\00:21:18.36
the world as a whole.
00:21:18.39\00:21:19.68
There is an enemy
whom scripture calls Satan,
00:21:19.71\00:21:24.81
a fallen angel, who has
set his sights on overcoming
00:21:24.84\00:21:29.48
and taking the human
race into his dominion.
00:21:29.51\00:21:33.07
So that's the first part
of the story in short form
00:21:33.10\00:21:36.95
and then there is,
there is a promised Warrior
00:21:36.98\00:21:41.65
that we're going to
talk about tonight. Okay.
00:21:41.68\00:21:43.42
With a capital 'W.'
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That from the very beginning
of this great controversy
00:21:45.55\00:21:49.00
between good and
evil would not let us go,
00:21:49.03\00:21:52.97
would not give us up--
00:21:53.00\00:21:55.71
who determined to
rescue the human race.
00:21:55.74\00:21:59.56
Okay, all right.
00:21:59.59\00:22:00.62
So this territory,
that's under dispute
00:22:00.65\00:22:03.25
to rescue planet earth
00:22:03.28\00:22:05.46
and the human
race from the dominion
00:22:05.49\00:22:08.48
of this foreign
invading illegitimate lord.
00:22:08.51\00:22:14.77
And to take the world back
00:22:14.80\00:22:17.92
for righteousness
and holiness and love
00:22:17.95\00:22:21.38
and to establish planet earth
00:22:21.41\00:22:25.01
as the center of God's
kingdom in this universe.
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The New Jerusalem itself will
eventually be established here
00:22:29.23\00:22:32.53
and from one new moon to another
00:22:32.56\00:22:34.05
and from one Sabbath to another,
00:22:34.08\00:22:35.36
all flesh will
come together to worship
00:22:35.39\00:22:38.78
the Lord on planet earth.
00:22:38.81\00:22:40.76
This very planet, the people,
00:22:40.79\00:22:44.32
the human race and this
planet itself will be reclaimed
00:22:44.35\00:22:48.29
and taken back from
the dominion of the enemy.
00:22:48.32\00:22:51.87
So that's the short form
of this 'Territorial Forces'.
00:22:51.90\00:22:54.75
Good news though.
That's right, that's right.
00:22:54.78\00:22:57.15
So some of the
viewers will be familiar
00:22:57.18\00:23:00.49
with the concept
under the terminology
00:23:00.52\00:23:04.14
the Great Controversy theme
00:23:04.17\00:23:06.54
or the Great
Controversy narrative.
00:23:06.57\00:23:09.19
That's familiar language.
00:23:09.22\00:23:11.37
Territorial
Forces is another way
00:23:11.40\00:23:14.21
of describing that
biblical storyline.
00:23:14.24\00:23:18.30
With an emphasis on the fact
00:23:18.33\00:23:20.58
that the human race and
planet earth is a territory.
00:23:20.61\00:23:24.51
God wants it and us and
the devil wants it and us.
00:23:24.54\00:23:30.73
And so there is a
great controversy.
00:23:30.76\00:23:31.95
There is a war going on.
00:23:31.98\00:23:34.40
So the Territorial Forces idea
00:23:34.43\00:23:36.35
that we're going to
move through tonight,
00:23:36.38\00:23:38.58
we're going to take
it in seven movements
00:23:38.61\00:23:41.33
or seven scenes. Okay.
00:23:41.36\00:23:42.86
I mean you could imagine
it as a, as a movie. Okay.
00:23:42.89\00:23:45.54
If you want, you
mention it sounds like a movie,
00:23:45.57\00:23:47.48
well, it's not a movie.
00:23:47.51\00:23:48.69
But it's definitely a storyline,
it's a narrative. Okay.
00:23:48.72\00:23:51.69
And it begins in Genesis
and it moves straight on through
00:23:51.72\00:23:55.04
to the Book of Revelation
00:23:55.07\00:23:57.32
and we're going to
take in seven parts. Okay.
00:23:57.35\00:23:59.93
And maybe we'll just
kind of flip back and forth
00:23:59.96\00:24:01.87
and comment, David, on you know,
00:24:01.90\00:24:05.07
you'll makes points
and I will make points
00:24:05.10\00:24:07.81
and just interject. Sure.
00:24:07.84\00:24:09.50
So first of all movement
number one or scene number one
00:24:09.53\00:24:15.19
is just the word
dominion that's the word.
00:24:15.22\00:24:18.44
For those of you
who are note takers.
00:24:18.47\00:24:21.02
Dominion is the first concept
00:24:21.05\00:24:23.03
and we find this
in Genesis. All right.
00:24:23.06\00:24:25.05
Danny, go ahead
and open your Bible
00:24:25.08\00:24:27.40
and we'll just look at this
idea of dominion in scripture.
00:24:27.43\00:24:31.57
Now we know that
our scripture begins
00:24:31.60\00:24:33.83
its story in Genesis 1:1.
00:24:33.86\00:24:37.14
The Bible simply
says in the beginning
00:24:37.17\00:24:38.95
God created the
heavens and the earth.
00:24:38.98\00:24:40.69
So right there we
have territories. Okay.
00:24:40.72\00:24:43.77
Right and we're going
to remember this language,
00:24:43.80\00:24:45.60
the heavens and the earth.
00:24:45.63\00:24:46.88
Because later on
we're going to see
00:24:46.91\00:24:48.89
that in scripture the heavens
00:24:48.92\00:24:50.46
and the earth are two
regions of the territory.
00:24:50.49\00:24:56.43
And the Lord has actually
given the earth to earthlings
00:24:56.46\00:24:59.91
to human beings
to be our dominions
00:24:59.94\00:25:01.54
and we see that here so.
00:25:01.57\00:25:02.60
"God created the
heavens and the earth."
00:25:02.63\00:25:03.96
Chapter 1:1 and
then look at verse 26.
00:25:03.99\00:25:06.84
Now lots of people are
familiar with this verse
00:25:06.87\00:25:08.61
but we're going to--
we're just going to add
00:25:08.64\00:25:10.17
a part here that we
rarely ever look at or read.
00:25:10.20\00:25:13.51
It says, "Then God said."
00:25:13.54\00:25:15.95
Verse 26, "Let us
make man in our image
00:25:15.98\00:25:20.07
according to our likeness
and let them have dominion."
00:25:20.10\00:25:25.21
Now this is very interesting.
00:25:25.24\00:25:26.96
Let's make man in our own image.
00:25:26.99\00:25:28.54
So we can go one of
the few ways with this.
00:25:28.57\00:25:30.60
Either God is saying,
00:25:30.63\00:25:31.96
"Hey, let's makes
beings that look like us."
00:25:31.99\00:25:35.17
That is physical resemblance.
00:25:35.20\00:25:37.55
That's really not
the point here. Okay.
00:25:37.58\00:25:39.74
It's not the
physically resemblance,
00:25:39.77\00:25:41.56
it's character
resemblance. Okay.
00:25:41.59\00:25:43.94
It's likeness in nature.
00:25:43.97\00:25:46.96
Now we're not God
and never will be.
00:25:46.99\00:25:48.74
He is God and always will be.
00:25:48.77\00:25:50.33
But He created us in His image
00:25:50.36\00:25:51.98
and that means
that He created us
00:25:52.01\00:25:53.81
as free moral agents. Okay.
00:25:53.84\00:25:56.20
As autonomous
creatures that have the ability,
00:25:56.23\00:26:00.65
the power to create, to
procreate children of course
00:26:00.68\00:26:06.62
and to enlarge the human race,
00:26:06.65\00:26:08.11
which He later on says,
"Be fruitful and multiply."
00:26:08.14\00:26:11.14
But also to create history
in the wake of our actions.
00:26:11.17\00:26:15.94
We are autonomous creatures.
00:26:15.97\00:26:17.41
We're freewill creatures.
00:26:17.44\00:26:18.88
It's an incredible
thing that this God
00:26:18.91\00:26:21.52
who Himself is
ultimately free would say,
00:26:21.55\00:26:24.16
"Hey, lets make beings
00:26:24.19\00:26:27.45
that function and
operate the way we do."
00:26:27.48\00:26:30.39
Let's make beings
that can actually govern.
00:26:30.42\00:26:34.23
That can think
and feel and execute
00:26:34.26\00:26:37.44
their thoughts and
feelings in actions.
00:26:37.47\00:26:39.44
That's what is happening here.
00:26:39.47\00:26:40.97
And so you have the
word here 'dominion.'
00:26:41.00\00:26:44.94
God said give them
dominion over the fish,
00:26:44.97\00:26:46.98
over the whole earth is
then indicated as their domain,
00:26:47.01\00:26:51.23
as their domicile
we might say. Okay.
00:26:51.26\00:26:54.25
So you got the man
and the woman Adam and Eve
00:26:54.28\00:26:56.59
and their progeny that
are about to come forth
00:26:56.62\00:26:59.50
from their loins and they are
to fill the earth with beauty.
00:26:59.53\00:27:04.89
They're to expand
the Garden of Eden.
00:27:04.92\00:27:07.05
God planted the garden
00:27:07.08\00:27:08.11
to begin with just this
one little plot of land.
00:27:08.14\00:27:10.08
God said, look at
the beauty around you.
00:27:10.11\00:27:12.48
I want you to just
with your own creativity
00:27:12.51\00:27:14.87
and your own
freewill just beautify it.
00:27:14.90\00:27:18.16
Just enlarge the
garden until it encompasses
00:27:18.19\00:27:20.64
the whole world and
have lots of children.
00:27:20.67\00:27:23.46
The earth was to be
this in the original plan
00:27:23.49\00:27:26.18
this beautiful Garden of Eden.
00:27:26.21\00:27:29.88
The whole thing just
this beautiful garden
00:27:29.91\00:27:32.31
of pleasure and
beauty and ecstasy
00:27:32.34\00:27:35.09
for ever and ever and ever
00:27:35.12\00:27:36.15
with not one little
ripple of discomfort. Yeah.
00:27:36.18\00:27:38.53
That was the plan. Okay.
00:27:38.56\00:27:40.36
And that was our
domain in God's universe
00:27:40.39\00:27:44.20
so that's the first
movement, the first scene. Okay.
00:27:44.23\00:27:47.09
In the story. It's a good one.
00:27:47.12\00:27:48.27
Dominion. It's a good scene.
00:27:48.30\00:27:50.31
There're other scriptures
that illustrates that as well.
00:27:50.34\00:27:52.03
Let me just read
one text to that effect,
00:27:52.06\00:27:53.56
Ty, just to sort of buttress
to what you've said there.
00:27:53.59\00:27:55.28
This is Psalm 115:16.
00:27:55.31\00:27:57.70
You've mentioned
the division there
00:27:57.73\00:28:00.31
between the
heavens and the earth.
00:28:00.34\00:28:02.42
And this is Psalm 115:16
00:28:02.45\00:28:05.74
it says, "The heaven,
00:28:05.77\00:28:07.87
even the
heavens, are the Lord's,
00:28:07.90\00:28:10.57
but the earth he has
given to the children of men."
00:28:10.60\00:28:13.76
So here's this idea of dominion.
00:28:13.79\00:28:15.52
That the heavens
belonged to the Lord
00:28:15.55\00:28:17.02
but the earth He gave to men.
00:28:17.05\00:28:19.35
He put them in charge with.
00:28:19.38\00:28:20.93
In this case we're
talking in the Garden of Eden.
00:28:20.96\00:28:22.86
It's Adam and Eve.
00:28:22.89\00:28:25.02
But there was also
a place of dominion
00:28:25.05\00:28:29.06
within the garden. Yes.
00:28:29.09\00:28:31.84
And that place of
dominion was a little,
00:28:31.87\00:28:35.58
I guess, you'd say
an enemy stronghold
00:28:35.61\00:28:37.47
or an enemy territory
00:28:37.50\00:28:38.61
even within the
dominion there in Eden.
00:28:38.64\00:28:41.16
And that was the
tree of the knowledge
00:28:41.19\00:28:42.59
of good and evil where Satan--
00:28:42.62\00:28:44.21
we're kind of getting a
little ahead of the story.
00:28:44.24\00:28:46.39
But just to make the point
clear that God has His dominion,
00:28:46.42\00:28:50.07
that's the heavens and then
the man was given his dominion
00:28:50.10\00:28:52.30
and that's the earth.
00:28:52.33\00:28:53.36
But even there was a dominion
00:28:53.39\00:28:55.56
at the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil,
00:28:55.59\00:28:57.50
where the enemy
himself had a space.
00:28:57.53\00:29:00.42
He had a place that he
couldn't just wander freely
00:29:00.45\00:29:03.40
wherever he wanted
to go, but he was there.
00:29:03.43\00:29:05.53
That was his
place, that was his space.
00:29:05.56\00:29:07.74
He wanted to expand his
governmental principles,
00:29:07.77\00:29:10.51
and his ideas,
and his perspective
00:29:10.54\00:29:12.26
on who and what God was.
00:29:12.29\00:29:13.71
So even in the
opening chapters of scripture
00:29:13.74\00:29:16.31
in Genesis 1, 2
and especially 3.
00:29:16.34\00:29:18.81
You have the sense
that there is a conflict,
00:29:18.84\00:29:20.73
there is a dispute
something is amiss.
00:29:20.76\00:29:23.57
Something is going on.
00:29:23.60\00:29:24.87
Yeah, yeah, isn't
that incredible thought,
00:29:24.90\00:29:26.71
think about it, Danny.
00:29:26.74\00:29:28.00
The devil began his
career as a politician.
00:29:28.03\00:29:31.07
Oh, have mercy.
00:29:31.10\00:29:33.05
He began his
career as a politician.
00:29:33.08\00:29:34.82
Oh, no. As David would--
00:29:34.85\00:29:36.11
I think he's just
gonna be a film actor.
00:29:36.14\00:29:37.17
We're back. This
is politics again.
00:29:37.20\00:29:38.27
This is going to be a theme.
00:29:38.30\00:29:39.33
We want to avoid politics
00:29:39.36\00:29:40.39
but the thing is
the great controversy,
00:29:40.42\00:29:42.57
check this out, Danny.
00:29:42.60\00:29:43.63
Check this out,
the great controversy,
00:29:43.66\00:29:45.51
is in essence a
political battle.
00:29:45.54\00:29:46.94
In fact, in Revelation 12,
00:29:46.97\00:29:50.83
we have this line that is
just so filled with meaning.
00:29:50.86\00:29:55.90
It says, "War
broke out in heaven."
00:29:55.93\00:29:59.05
Or King James Version,
"There was war in heaven."
00:29:59.08\00:30:01.80
Just straight into the
point. There was war in heaven.
00:30:01.83\00:30:03.97
The word war there in
the Greek is 'polemos'
00:30:04.00\00:30:06.66
from which we get
English words like politics
00:30:06.69\00:30:09.81
and poles and
polemic. All right.
00:30:09.84\00:30:12.49
And yeah so, but
here's what happening.
00:30:12.52\00:30:15.47
As David pointed out
00:30:15.50\00:30:16.53
that devil was kind of
staking out his territory
00:30:16.56\00:30:19.76
at the tree of the
knowledge of the good and evil
00:30:19.79\00:30:21.80
and hoping that Adam
and Eve would approach,
00:30:21.83\00:30:24.17
so that he could
then expand that territory
00:30:24.20\00:30:27.58
and that's
precisely what happened Danny.
00:30:27.61\00:30:29.10
So that brings us
to scene two. Okay.
00:30:29.13\00:30:31.39
Movement two of the
story and that is abdication.
00:30:31.42\00:30:37.18
So for the note takers
00:30:37.21\00:30:38.72
for those who want to just
really grasp this material.
00:30:38.75\00:30:43.10
Abdication is the
next word in the story.
00:30:43.13\00:30:46.86
So, Ty, just quickly for us
00:30:46.89\00:30:48.85
for some who may
not know that word.
00:30:48.88\00:30:50.19
What are we talking
about? What are some synonyms?
00:30:50.22\00:30:52.15
Okay, to abdicate
means to yield or to give up,
00:30:52.18\00:30:58.39
to move from a position
in which you have authority
00:30:58.42\00:31:03.74
to giving that
authority over to somebody else.
00:31:03.77\00:31:06.90
So it's a trans,
it's a word of transfer.
00:31:06.93\00:31:09.63
It means that you're
transferring authority.
00:31:09.66\00:31:12.59
Now, we know in the story
00:31:12.62\00:31:14.23
that Adam and
Eve have been given
00:31:14.26\00:31:16.67
or delegated dominion authority
over planet earth, right.
00:31:16.70\00:31:22.58
But now they
through their exercise,
00:31:22.61\00:31:25.23
through the
exercise of their freewill,
00:31:25.26\00:31:27.65
they abdicate they
yield, they give the authority.
00:31:27.68\00:31:32.67
Satan may be an important
point later on you may get to.
00:31:32.70\00:31:36.07
So Satan didn't take it,
they gave it. He deceived.
00:31:36.10\00:31:39.91
Yeah, that's a very good point.
00:31:39.94\00:31:42.74
He deceived
them but he couldn't,
00:31:42.77\00:31:45.69
he couldn't actually
bypass their freewill.
00:31:45.72\00:31:49.50
To say he had the dominion
00:31:49.53\00:31:50.64
and they had
freewill over the earth.
00:31:50.67\00:31:52.80
So you're right, he
didn't take it by force.
00:31:52.83\00:31:55.31
He took it by deception. Okay.
00:31:55.34\00:31:56.82
Which means he had to work open
00:31:56.85\00:31:58.80
their thinking
process and bring,
00:31:58.83\00:32:01.10
you know, bring their
freewill over to deceit.
00:32:01.13\00:32:04.46
And we find that
when you mentioned there,
00:32:04.49\00:32:06.15
Ty, that you know
Satan really is postured up,
00:32:06.18\00:32:08.95
he sort of looks
like a politician
00:32:08.98\00:32:10.55
he does, I mean-- Yeah.
00:32:10.58\00:32:11.78
You have this
language in Revelation 12,
00:32:11.81\00:32:14.07
war, polemos in heaven.
00:32:14.10\00:32:16.20
But even just
there in Genesis 3,
00:32:16.23\00:32:17.96
you just get a sense that not
everything is on the up and up.
00:32:17.99\00:32:20.68
Has God indeed said,
00:32:20.71\00:32:21.74
"You shall not eat of
every tree of the garden?"
00:32:21.77\00:32:23.91
Oh, he knows that in the
day that you eat there up
00:32:23.94\00:32:26.01
you have this
political posturing
00:32:26.04\00:32:28.69
and positioning. It's right.
00:32:28.72\00:32:30.06
And I love your point there,
00:32:30.09\00:32:31.16
Danny, it's something
that I just I like it.
00:32:31.19\00:32:33.68
I like the clarity of
it, the simplicity of it.
00:32:33.71\00:32:36.31
It wasn't Satan's to take,
00:32:36.34\00:32:37.54
God didn't set the
great controversy up
00:32:37.57\00:32:39.87
to be a fistfight or a battle,
00:32:39.90\00:32:41.99
you know, in some
sort of a physical melee.
00:32:42.02\00:32:45.63
No, he has to persuade
them, he has to talk to them,
00:32:45.66\00:32:48.43
he has to usurp God's
standing in their minds
00:32:48.46\00:32:52.22
before he can
get them to abdicate
00:32:52.25\00:32:54.73
and say oh, hey,
"Take what was given to us."
00:32:54.76\00:32:57.23
I like that.
00:32:57.26\00:32:58.29
So you're talking
about him, so around here
00:32:58.32\00:32:59.65
we say he was politician. Yeah.
00:32:59.68\00:33:01.41
That's right. He was politician.
00:33:01.44\00:33:02.47
Exactly what he was doing.
00:33:02.50\00:33:03.83
Exactly, so-- very interesting,
00:33:03.86\00:33:05.50
I'll just stir on
one quick thing here
00:33:05.53\00:33:06.93
for those that want
to go a little deeper.
00:33:06.96\00:33:09.15
One of the major
passages in the Old Testament,
00:33:09.18\00:33:11.07
Ezekiel 28.
00:33:11.10\00:33:12.13
It sort of depicts
what Satan was doing
00:33:12.16\00:33:14.34
when he was Lucifer
before the transition to Satan.
00:33:14.37\00:33:18.41
He uses a very
interesting words,
00:33:18.44\00:33:19.67
it says "that by the
multitude of your traffic."
00:33:19.70\00:33:22.27
or
"merchandize" King James says,
00:33:22.30\00:33:23.90
two times it uses
this in Ezekiel 28.
00:33:23.93\00:33:26.03
"By your trafficking,
by your merchandizing"
00:33:26.06\00:33:29.08
and it's an interesting idea.
00:33:29.11\00:33:30.58
It basically is that
he had something to sell.
00:33:30.61\00:33:33.75
He was selling
something. Wow, that's deep.
00:33:33.78\00:33:35.50
That's right. It is, it is.
00:33:35.53\00:33:36.81
It's very
interesting in the word there
00:33:36.84\00:33:38.29
the root word, the Hebrew
root word there means to gossip.
00:33:38.32\00:33:42.48
It's the same root word.
00:33:42.51\00:33:43.66
He had--he wasn't selling
where is your items or widgets,
00:33:43.69\00:33:47.21
he was selling a
picture. Wow, ideas.
00:33:47.24\00:33:48.97
He was selling ideas.
And Eve bought the ideas.
00:33:49.00\00:33:55.12
Now scripture says
in the New Testament
00:33:55.15\00:33:56.48
that Adam wasn't so
sure about the ideas
00:33:56.51\00:33:58.27
but he was really sure
about Eve. That's right.
00:33:58.30\00:34:01.98
They took their
romance too far. Yeah, he did.
00:34:02.01\00:34:04.46
He should have
had more blueberries
00:34:04.49\00:34:05.77
and exercise
extra. That's right.
00:34:05.80\00:34:07.90
So we move from
dominion to abdication.
00:34:07.93\00:34:09.91
It's just the basic concept,
00:34:09.94\00:34:11.51
that God gives people
the ability and forces,
00:34:11.54\00:34:14.63
angelic forces as
well to rule delegation.
00:34:14.66\00:34:18.62
And then here now we've
transitioned to abdication.
00:34:18.65\00:34:20.87
So that sort of establish there.
00:34:20.90\00:34:22.40
Let's wrap some scripture around
the abdication idea. Okay.
00:34:22.43\00:34:26.34
This is pretty
important to bring the Bible
00:34:26.37\00:34:29.20
to bear upon the subject.
00:34:29.23\00:34:30.50
So Adam and Eve are
coregents over earth.
00:34:30.53\00:34:34.82
It is their domain.
00:34:34.85\00:34:37.01
And then the biblical
story continues to unfold
00:34:37.04\00:34:39.66
and they abdicate.
00:34:39.69\00:34:41.72
They move, they
transfer the earth
00:34:41.75\00:34:45.14
as a territory
out of their control
00:34:45.17\00:34:47.01
and authority into the control
00:34:47.04\00:34:49.07
and authority of the enemy.
00:34:49.10\00:34:50.96
David referenced Genesis 3
00:34:50.99\00:34:54.22
as the story of how
that actually happened.
00:34:54.25\00:34:57.56
After Genesis 3 the
Bible continues to unfold
00:34:57.59\00:35:00.88
and you see
indications very clear,
00:35:00.91\00:35:03.70
explicit indications
00:35:03.73\00:35:05.23
that there was in fact a
transfer that took place.
00:35:05.26\00:35:07.39
Now, the most--you would
want to look this one up.
00:35:07.42\00:35:10.31
This is pretty
important in Luke 4.
00:35:10.34\00:35:12.92
Luke 4 is a very
strong indication
00:35:12.95\00:35:17.70
that Satan became as it
were the ruler of this world.
00:35:17.73\00:35:24.00
Chapter 4 of the Gospel of Luke
00:35:24.03\00:35:27.36
and this is the temptation
in the wilderness with Jesus
00:35:27.39\00:35:31.10
and the devil
has three temptations
00:35:31.13\00:35:33.20
and here is one of
them in verses 5 and 6.
00:35:33.23\00:35:35.94
It says "Then the
devil taking him."
00:35:35.97\00:35:38.34
That is Jesus "up on a
high mountain showed him."
00:35:38.37\00:35:41.82
Notice the language here, Danny.
00:35:41.85\00:35:43.83
"He showed him all
the kingdoms of the world
00:35:43.86\00:35:47.08
in a moment of time."
00:35:47.11\00:35:48.55
So they're standing
there-- get--this is incredible
00:35:48.58\00:35:51.59
and Jesus in a flash,
00:35:51.62\00:35:53.92
He sees all the kingdoms
of the nations of the world.
00:35:53.95\00:35:58.36
And He sees all
people of the world.
00:35:58.39\00:36:00.36
And then verse 6,
00:36:00.39\00:36:02.65
"And the devil said to
him all this authority." Wow.
00:36:02.68\00:36:07.32
"I will give you and the glory,
00:36:07.35\00:36:10.69
for this has
been delivered to me
00:36:10.72\00:36:14.67
and I give it to
whomever I wish." Wow.
00:36:14.70\00:36:18.02
So there is a back
story here obviously
00:36:18.05\00:36:20.36
because Satan is
talking in terms of something
00:36:20.39\00:36:23.41
that has occurred in the past.
00:36:23.44\00:36:25.94
He is saying to Jesus "I
will give you the whole world
00:36:25.97\00:36:29.33
and all of its
authority in glory."
00:36:29.36\00:36:31.36
How can I do that?
00:36:31.39\00:36:32.70
Well, because
it was given to me.
00:36:32.73\00:36:34.57
Somebody gave it to me.
00:36:34.60\00:36:35.81
That's interesting because
Jesus in Matthew 28:18 says,
00:36:35.84\00:36:39.66
"All authority or
power is given me."
00:36:39.69\00:36:42.14
Exactly, in which
we'll be getting to
00:36:42.17\00:36:43.73
because that's where
the story goes. Okay.
00:36:43.76\00:36:45.78
You're exactly
right. Okay, all right.
00:36:45.81\00:36:47.33
That's encouraging that you
will think of that scripture
00:36:47.36\00:36:49.92
because that
shows that this story
00:36:49.95\00:36:52.65
is very clearly
outlined in scripture. Okay.
00:36:52.68\00:36:54.75
So what's happening
here, this is astounding,
00:36:54.78\00:36:57.88
the devil is
basically claiming--
00:36:57.91\00:36:59.82
He is still politician again.
00:36:59.85\00:37:01.23
Yeah, somebody
gave me the earth.
00:37:01.26\00:37:03.66
Well, who gave him
the earth in the story?
00:37:03.69\00:37:05.83
And Jesus the
critical point for me here, Ty,
00:37:05.86\00:37:08.10
is that Jesus does not dispute
00:37:08.13\00:37:09.91
that it's Satan's
to give. That's right.
00:37:09.94\00:37:12.22
He had no point,
says, wait a minute
00:37:12.25\00:37:13.67
this doesn't belong to you.
00:37:13.70\00:37:14.73
No its-- he
understands by the principles
00:37:14.76\00:37:17.52
of the
delegation and abdication,
00:37:17.55\00:37:20.35
you are correct in
offering this to me,
00:37:20.38\00:37:24.04
the means by
which you're offering
00:37:24.07\00:37:25.75
it is illegitimate. Right.
00:37:25.78\00:37:26.87
But the fact that
you're offering it. Okay.
00:37:26.90\00:37:28.87
He doesn't dispute that
its illegitimate offer. Wow.
00:37:28.90\00:37:30.80
In fact, David,
think about this.
00:37:30.83\00:37:32.86
There are scriptures
in which Jesus Himself
00:37:32.89\00:37:36.56
and the Apostle Paul
acknowledges. Totally.
00:37:36.59\00:37:39.35
The position of the enemy. Yeah.
00:37:39.38\00:37:41.29
John 12:31, for example.
00:37:41.32\00:37:44.04
Where Jesus says "The ruler
of this world is cast down."
00:37:44.07\00:37:47.55
Now, Jesus at that point
is talking about the fact
00:37:47.58\00:37:49.85
that He is in the
process of overcoming the enemy.
00:37:49.88\00:37:52.53
But He calls them by a
title, the ruler of this world.
00:37:52.56\00:37:57.37
And he uses that, he
uses that phrase three times.
00:37:57.40\00:37:59.85
You'll find that
phrase three times
00:37:59.88\00:38:01.09
in the Gospel of John,
"the ruler of this world,
00:38:01.12\00:38:03.07
the ruler of this world,
the ruler of this world."
00:38:03.10\00:38:04.81
Some
translation, it's the prince.
00:38:04.84\00:38:07.06
It's actually
the Greek word archon
00:38:07.09\00:38:09.29
which is archon, which arch,
00:38:09.32\00:38:11.66
just what it sounds
like, like the archangel
00:38:11.69\00:38:14.70
is the one who is
the head of the angels.
00:38:14.73\00:38:16.37
The archion in first
century Greek was basically
00:38:16.40\00:38:21.31
the highest
governmental ruler of the land.
00:38:21.34\00:38:25.34
So today like the archion
of a city would be a what?
00:38:25.37\00:38:29.09
What would we
call that? A mayor.
00:38:29.12\00:38:31.06
We call the mayor
00:38:31.09\00:38:32.20
or would we call
the archion of a state.
00:38:32.23\00:38:33.86
A governor. A governor.
00:38:33.89\00:38:35.22
Or of a country maybe a
prime minister or a president.
00:38:35.25\00:38:38.25
So its fascinating that
Jesus not only doesn't dispute
00:38:38.28\00:38:41.07
that its Satan's to give,
00:38:41.10\00:38:43.03
He actually
affirms the basic concept
00:38:43.06\00:38:45.51
and He says, "The
ruler of this world has come
00:38:45.54\00:38:47.21
and he's nothing in me.
00:38:47.24\00:38:48.30
The ruler of this world has
come but he will be judged."
00:38:48.33\00:38:50.36
Well, help me then.
00:38:50.39\00:38:51.72
Are you saying for those of us
00:38:51.75\00:38:53.35
who are at home,
are you saying then
00:38:53.38\00:38:54.63
because, you know,
we see the scripture,
00:38:54.66\00:38:56.44
Satan as a prince of
this earth and such and such,
00:38:56.47\00:38:59.39
that he was but he
didn't get that from God.
00:38:59.42\00:39:02.06
We're going to get
there. We're going to get there.
00:39:02.09\00:39:03.25
Okay, you're gonna tell
us where he got it from?
00:39:03.28\00:39:05.47
He got it
through his politicking.
00:39:05.50\00:39:06.81
Okay, I won't go-go ahead, okay.
00:39:06.84\00:39:08.06
Yeah, he got it
through his politicking. Okay.
00:39:08.09\00:39:09.94
Yeah, he took the earth
00:39:09.97\00:39:12.90
by illegitimate
means. That's right.
00:39:12.93\00:39:15.31
And Jesus comes to
the world to reclaim it.
00:39:15.34\00:39:19.38
I never thought
about what you just said.
00:39:19.41\00:39:21.25
I have never thought about,
00:39:21.28\00:39:22.93
you know, Jesus
didn't debate him on that.
00:39:22.96\00:39:24.48
That's right. You know because--
00:39:24.51\00:39:25.95
But what about the Apostle
Paul in 2 Corinthians 4:4?
00:39:25.98\00:39:28.79
This is one of the
most astonishing scriptures
00:39:28.82\00:39:30.35
in the New Testament.
Yeah, yeah, it's amazing.
00:39:30.38\00:39:31.94
The Apostle Paul
literally calls Satan,
00:39:31.97\00:39:34.79
the god of this age.
00:39:34.82\00:39:38.15
The god of this age. Okay, wow.
00:39:38.18\00:39:39.57
And it's the same
word God that's used
00:39:39.60\00:39:41.17
in the New Testament is Theos.
00:39:41.20\00:39:42.86
He is the God of this world.
00:39:42.89\00:39:45.23
Now another word we want
to introduce here would be
00:39:45.26\00:39:48.31
that he is the god of this age
00:39:48.34\00:39:49.90
but it's a position he has
by usurping it, usurpation.
00:39:49.93\00:39:53.91
Yeah, okay. He has taken it.
00:39:53.94\00:39:55.68
Its not legitimate, God
disputes the claims. Okay.
00:39:55.71\00:39:58.29
Hence we have the
great controversy.
00:39:58.32\00:39:59.81
But you'll find this
other places in scripture
00:39:59.84\00:40:02.00
for example in Ephesians 2:2.
He is called by another title.
00:40:02.03\00:40:06.99
He's called the prince
of the power of the air.
00:40:07.02\00:40:10.74
Now that doesn't
mean he has control
00:40:10.77\00:40:12.55
over the oxygen supply. Yeah.
00:40:12.58\00:40:15.04
Its not air in that sense.
00:40:15.07\00:40:16.52
Air is being used
there in a metaphoric sense.
00:40:16.55\00:40:19.69
So a good way to
translate that is
00:40:19.72\00:40:21.51
that he is the
prince of the power
00:40:21.54\00:40:25.51
of the prevailing
culture of our world. Okay.
00:40:25.54\00:40:30.34
He is the prince of the power
00:40:30.37\00:40:32.71
of the prevailing
moral malaise of the world.
00:40:32.74\00:40:36.49
He is the one that is as it
were pushing the moral buttons
00:40:36.52\00:40:41.71
to push culture in the
direction of self-centeredness
00:40:41.74\00:40:46.56
and greed and
lust. And oppression.
00:40:46.59\00:40:49.24
Yeah, and
oppression and injustice
00:40:49.27\00:40:50.90
and all those things. Okay.
00:40:50.93\00:40:52.55
1 John, I think its 1 John 5:19
00:40:52.58\00:40:56.84
another word is used.
00:40:56.87\00:40:58.21
Its says, that the "whole world
00:40:58.24\00:40:59.36
lies under the
sway of the wicked one."
00:40:59.39\00:41:02.65
So the word
'sway,' what is sway mean?
00:41:02.68\00:41:04.65
Well, sway-- Influence.
00:41:04.68\00:41:06.25
Influence exactly,
there is an atmosphere
00:41:06.28\00:41:08.98
that's exerting an influence
00:41:09.01\00:41:11.12
and the world is
swayed by the devil.
00:41:11.15\00:41:13.87
One of the
words that's sometimes
00:41:13.90\00:41:14.99
used for this is
the word Zeitgeist.
00:41:15.02\00:41:16.86
Do you heard that word before?
00:41:16.89\00:41:17.92
It's a German word.
It's a German word Zeitgeist.
00:41:17.95\00:41:19.94
Its just means
the spirit of the age.
00:41:19.97\00:41:23.71
The spirit of the age.
The prevailing opinion.
00:41:23.74\00:41:25.33
The prevailing Zeitgeist.
00:41:25.36\00:41:27.30
It's just, it's just
the way the things are
00:41:27.33\00:41:29.92
and Satan, the
lust of the flesh,
00:41:29.95\00:41:31.95
the lust of the eyes,
and the pride of life.
00:41:31.98\00:41:33.33
Let's be honest,
that's the principles
00:41:33.36\00:41:34.56
upon which this
world operates. Yeah.
00:41:34.59\00:41:36.30
Like right now for
example the Zeitgeist
00:41:36.33\00:41:38.82
or the generally accepted
spirit of our age in politics
00:41:38.85\00:41:42.38
is for politicians
to lie about one another
00:41:42.41\00:41:45.86
and it's just, it's just
part of the--it's just accepted.
00:41:45.89\00:41:48.69
And if you were to pause
backup and think about it,
00:41:48.72\00:41:51.90
you wouldn't vote for a liar.
00:41:51.93\00:41:55.85
Right? Yeah.
00:41:55.88\00:41:57.69
But the fact is
that it's so acceptable
00:41:57.72\00:42:00.97
that you only have two options,
00:42:01.00\00:42:03.15
Liar A or Liar B.
00:42:03.18\00:42:05.35
I mean its astounding
thing. That's the idea there.
00:42:05.38\00:42:09.39
Now there is one more scripture
00:42:09.42\00:42:10.95
and David this one we spent
time talking about in the past,
00:42:10.98\00:42:16.36
not recently but in
the past and its astounding
00:42:16.39\00:42:19.24
and that is
that the devil in Job
00:42:19.27\00:42:22.57
comes sauntering in. Yeah.
00:42:22.60\00:42:24.86
To a heavenly conclave
or congress of some kind.
00:42:24.89\00:42:28.91
It says there was a day
when the sons of God came,
00:42:28.94\00:42:32.64
that means they
traveled from territories
00:42:32.67\00:42:34.54
where they
reside in the universe.
00:42:34.57\00:42:36.23
Paul calls them
principalities and powers
00:42:36.26\00:42:39.28
are rulers and authorities
in the heavenly realm.
00:42:39.31\00:42:41.36
So it says there was a day
00:42:41.39\00:42:42.92
when the sons of God
came to present themselves
00:42:42.95\00:42:45.90
before the Lord.
So here's the Lord.
00:42:45.93\00:42:47.35
It really bespeaks
organizations. Exactly.
00:42:47.38\00:42:49.73
There was a time,
there was a place.
00:42:49.76\00:42:51.25
Yeah, I like that.
00:42:51.28\00:42:52.31
Were called in a meeting. Okay.
00:42:52.34\00:42:53.51
The Lord calls a meeting.
00:42:53.54\00:42:54.85
And so the sons of God,
the representative heads,
00:42:54.88\00:42:57.06
we don't have time to prove this
00:42:57.09\00:42:58.18
but the representative
heads of other worlds,
00:42:58.21\00:43:00.63
come together before the Lord.
00:43:00.66\00:43:02.54
And then this line
00:43:02.57\00:43:03.79
"And Satan came
also among them." Yeah.
00:43:03.82\00:43:07.43
So here comes the devil
00:43:07.46\00:43:08.49
into this heavenly
congress meeting, okay.
00:43:08.52\00:43:11.81
This parliamentary
gathering of the rulers
00:43:11.84\00:43:15.18
of the universe with
God, the chief ruler.
00:43:15.21\00:43:18.65
He comes into the meeting
and notice what the Lord says
00:43:18.68\00:43:22.78
and this is in Job 1.
00:43:22.81\00:43:25.50
The Lord says I'll
use the King James Version
00:43:25.53\00:43:27.85
because it sounds better here.
00:43:27.88\00:43:29.28
"From Whence comest thou."
00:43:29.31\00:43:32.34
He's saying from
where do you come?
00:43:32.37\00:43:34.44
He doesn't say,
what are you doing here?
00:43:34.47\00:43:37.41
He doesn't even
say get out of here.
00:43:37.44\00:43:40.12
He is asking
for point of origin.
00:43:40.15\00:43:42.12
He is asking for territorial.
00:43:42.15\00:43:44.58
What right do
you have to be here?
00:43:44.61\00:43:45.68
Who you're representing?
Yeah, who are you representing?
00:43:45.71\00:43:47.58
That's a better
way to say. Yeah, okay.
00:43:47.61\00:43:50.28
So what does the
devil say in so many words,
00:43:50.31\00:43:52.79
he says from walking to and fro
00:43:52.82\00:43:55.30
and up and down in the earth.
00:43:55.33\00:43:57.05
Okay, so what does he do?
00:43:57.08\00:43:58.13
He's claiming planet earth
00:43:58.16\00:44:00.62
as his territory
in God's universe
00:44:00.65\00:44:02.93
and he's basically saying,
00:44:02.96\00:44:04.05
I have a right to be
here in this meeting.
00:44:04.08\00:44:05.83
If all these other rulers
of other worlds can be here,
00:44:05.86\00:44:08.97
I can be here to represent
the planet that belongs to me.
00:44:09.00\00:44:12.55
Because after all
you've created earth
00:44:12.58\00:44:14.30
and it's a world
too. That's right.
00:44:14.33\00:44:17.98
You know. And I
have control of it.
00:44:18.01\00:44:20.59
Now God even there
00:44:20.62\00:44:22.59
just briefly, preliminarily
he begins to dispute
00:44:22.62\00:44:26.68
the legitimacy of Satan's claim.
00:44:26.71\00:44:28.36
It's an area under
dispute because he says,
00:44:28.39\00:44:30.93
you think you represent earth.
00:44:30.96\00:44:32.04
Have you
considered my servant Job
00:44:32.07\00:44:33.75
that he doesn't and he
doesn't and he doesn't-- Okay.
00:44:33.78\00:44:36.10
Then you get into this,
so then notice what happens.
00:44:36.13\00:44:38.77
I might be cutting
you off for the time
00:44:38.80\00:44:39.93
but the next level of sort
of escalation is that he says,
00:44:39.96\00:44:42.54
well, off course
Job does, he honors you
00:44:42.57\00:44:45.83
and because does Job
fear God for nothing,
00:44:45.86\00:44:47.87
you're looking out for him.
00:44:47.90\00:44:48.98
He's basically suggesting
00:44:49.01\00:44:50.47
in front of the on
looking parliament there.
00:44:50.50\00:44:53.41
Well you've bought him off.
00:44:53.44\00:44:55.47
Of course I mean you have
given him all these things.
00:44:55.50\00:44:57.51
And so what you have here in job
00:44:57.54\00:44:59.31
is the great
controversy in cinematic vision
00:44:59.34\00:45:03.34
of who legitimately
has the territory of earth.
00:45:03.37\00:45:08.07
Yeah, I love that, David
00:45:08.10\00:45:09.82
because the devil
lays claim to earth.
00:45:09.85\00:45:12.83
And the Lord
responds by pointing to a man.
00:45:12.86\00:45:15.31
Yeah, that's right.
00:45:15.34\00:45:16.37
Have you
considered my servant Job,
00:45:16.40\00:45:17.92
so in a sense here the
devil is claiming the earth
00:45:17.95\00:45:20.60
and the Lord is saying,
I have a foothold though.
00:45:20.63\00:45:25.44
I have somebody
who represents me,
00:45:25.47\00:45:27.80
my principles in my
kingdom still in the world,
00:45:27.83\00:45:29.94
his name is Job.
00:45:29.97\00:45:31.58
The Lord is basically saying,
00:45:31.61\00:45:33.20
we're not giving
this great controversy up.
00:45:33.23\00:45:36.74
We're not giving
the world over to you.
00:45:36.77\00:45:38.54
We're still
working. That's true.
00:45:38.57\00:45:40.78
So when this great
controversy and Jobs--
00:45:40.81\00:45:43.06
Where there is life,
there is hope. That's right.
00:45:43.09\00:45:44.90
And so I still have
some good people there,
00:45:44.93\00:45:47.89
Job is one of them.
00:45:47.92\00:45:48.95
So I'm not just going
to give this world to you.
00:45:48.98\00:45:50.57
And Job was a territory
00:45:50.60\00:45:52.29
that the Lord was
holding in this world
00:45:52.32\00:45:55.32
in revolt against God's kingdom.
00:45:55.35\00:45:57.89
Because then the devil says
00:45:57.92\00:45:59.53
"have you not
surrounded him on every side
00:45:59.56\00:46:01.65
and put a hedge about
him." It's very interesting.
00:46:01.68\00:46:04.43
That the hedge that's about him,
00:46:04.46\00:46:05.87
people says, well, what
does that mean, was it, was it?
00:46:05.90\00:46:08.15
Was it a
garden? Was it a garden?
00:46:08.18\00:46:09.61
Bunch of bushes or what?
00:46:09.64\00:46:10.85
Well, no the Bible says
00:46:10.88\00:46:13.10
"that the angel of the Lord
encamps around those." Okay.
00:46:13.13\00:46:17.42
"Who fear him."
00:46:17.45\00:46:19.02
In other words, the Lord is
basically put a protective pad.
00:46:19.05\00:46:22.84
There's a
beachhead, there's a beachhead
00:46:22.87\00:46:24.74
at Satan's territory. Okay.
00:46:24.77\00:46:26.50
And the angels are protecting,
00:46:26.53\00:46:28.68
protecting, Job and
basically Satan says,
00:46:28.71\00:46:32.44
but remove the hedge,
00:46:32.47\00:46:33.61
remove your
restraint and I'll get to him.
00:46:33.64\00:46:36.10
And he won't
serve you any longer.
00:46:36.13\00:46:37.16
But wasn't he accusing
God of something unfair.
00:46:37.19\00:46:41.02
In other words,
if he put a hedge
00:46:41.05\00:46:42.97
and protected Job from sin,
00:46:43.00\00:46:44.45
why didn't He do to
everybody else there?
00:46:44.48\00:46:46.76
So who really put that hedge
up was it God or was it Job.
00:46:46.79\00:46:51.65
Was it Job's
submission to God that God says,
00:46:51.68\00:46:55.53
I can bless you. It's
not either or it's both.
00:46:55.56\00:46:58.17
It's a cooperative effort. Okay.
00:46:58.20\00:46:59.53
It's Job, here, there
is this idea in scripture
00:46:59.56\00:47:02.53
that I refer to as moral
authority or moral speak.
00:47:02.56\00:47:07.70
In the Book of
Ezekiel for example,
00:47:07.73\00:47:09.87
the Lord indicates
that there is murder
00:47:09.90\00:47:12.10
and oppression and slavery
and thievery in the land.
00:47:12.13\00:47:16.33
Therefore, there is a
hole in the wall. Okay.
00:47:16.36\00:47:19.50
And I'm looking for
somebody to stand in the breach,
00:47:19.53\00:47:22.54
in the hole in the
wall and to mend this wall
00:47:22.57\00:47:25.99
by moral
rectitude and by prayer.
00:47:26.02\00:47:28.37
And then one of
saddest lines in scriptures,
00:47:28.40\00:47:30.21
it says that I
looked all over the earth
00:47:30.24\00:47:32.01
for somebody who
would stand in the breach
00:47:32.04\00:47:33.89
and I couldn't find anybody.
00:47:33.92\00:47:35.50
I couldn't find anybody
who would pray for the land
00:47:35.53\00:47:38.06
that I would not
have to destroy it.
00:47:38.09\00:47:39.82
And so there is
this idea that God
00:47:39.85\00:47:41.34
puts a protective
hedge around people.
00:47:41.37\00:47:43.99
But the immorality
that's going on in a city,
00:47:44.02\00:47:46.67
a nation or land, speaks
on an authoritative level
00:47:46.70\00:47:50.70
in the legal rules of engagement
in the great controversy.
00:47:50.73\00:47:54.38
The devil is
saying wait a minute.
00:47:54.41\00:47:56.22
You're protecting these people
00:47:56.25\00:47:57.46
but obviously
they're voting for me.
00:47:57.49\00:47:59.52
They don't want Your protection
00:47:59.55\00:48:00.77
because the principles they're
operating on are my principles.
00:48:00.80\00:48:04.51
They belong to me.
00:48:04.54\00:48:05.57
There is murder
and theft in this land.
00:48:05.60\00:48:08.29
You can't keep me
away from them for long.
00:48:08.32\00:48:11.92
And so there is a breach
in the wall and God is saying,
00:48:11.95\00:48:13.92
would somebody
please pray. Yeah.
00:48:13.95\00:48:15.66
So that the angels
can kind of stitch up
00:48:15.69\00:48:20.06
their protection around
this city or this nation.
00:48:20.09\00:48:24.00
It's a fascinating concept.
00:48:24.03\00:48:25.09
It's enlightening
but it's very scary too
00:48:25.12\00:48:27.59
when we look at the very
situation we're in here today.
00:48:27.62\00:48:31.18
Other words you've said,
you even incorporated a country.
00:48:31.21\00:48:33.57
If this country
builds its foundation
00:48:33.60\00:48:36.22
from where it was
and we changed that
00:48:36.25\00:48:38.25
to one that's
anti-God, by enacting laws
00:48:38.28\00:48:42.44
or by supporting anti-biblical
00:48:42.47\00:48:45.35
when we do that,
then we are basically,
00:48:45.38\00:48:47.63
God has not-- We're saying God,
00:48:47.66\00:48:49.24
we don't want You
to protect us because--
00:48:49.27\00:48:50.71
That's the idea, yeah.
00:48:50.74\00:48:51.77
Satan says, you
don't have a right.
00:48:51.80\00:48:53.53
And you're going
to, we're going to see
00:48:53.56\00:48:54.75
as we continue on here
00:48:54.78\00:48:56.29
as we get
especially to the fourth scene,
00:48:56.32\00:48:58.43
we are in the second right now.
00:48:58.46\00:49:00.89
We'll probably just go
quickly through the third
00:49:00.92\00:49:02.34
but when we get
to that fourth scene.
00:49:02.37\00:49:03.59
This whole idea of countries
00:49:03.62\00:49:05.41
and actual geographical places
00:49:05.44\00:49:08.53
being overseen and superintended
00:49:08.56\00:49:11.99
by demonic forces
is a biblical idea.
00:49:12.02\00:49:15.26
Okay. Yeah. It's heavy.
00:49:15.29\00:49:16.72
It's heavy and it's big.
00:49:16.75\00:49:18.02
We're not
talking about little cute
00:49:18.05\00:49:19.52
nice little quaint
spiritual, this is boom.
00:49:19.55\00:49:22.71
Yeah. It's a heavy stuff.
00:49:22.74\00:49:23.83
This is the great controversy
between good and evil.
00:49:23.86\00:49:25.99
It's not the little controversy.
00:49:26.02\00:49:27.60
Yeah, it's the
great controversy.
00:49:27.63\00:49:28.66
Yeah, the great one.
00:49:28.69\00:49:29.72
And it's happening right here
on planet earth. I'm loving it.
00:49:29.75\00:49:31.92
Well, we got about eight minutes
00:49:31.95\00:49:33.24
for you to go
ahead with this part
00:49:33.27\00:49:35.14
and then the next hour.
00:49:35.17\00:49:37.93
We're going to
just center in on this.
00:49:37.96\00:49:39.55
And we've time
for questions, okay.
00:49:39.58\00:49:41.01
If we don't we want to get this.
00:49:41.04\00:49:42.44
We want you to take your time.
00:49:42.47\00:49:43.78
This is very enlightening,
00:49:43.81\00:49:44.84
I hope that's the
name of your new book
00:49:44.87\00:49:47.15
is the Territorial Forces.
00:49:47.18\00:49:49.60
And it's what's in contained is
00:49:49.63\00:49:51.09
what we are
studying here tonight.
00:49:51.12\00:49:52.15
But, David, we could
mention that these ideas
00:49:52.18\00:49:54.61
we've recently
written up in a publication
00:49:54.64\00:49:57.62
that is available
for free. For free.
00:49:57.65\00:49:59.99
Oh, that's what we need too--
00:50:00.02\00:50:01.90
And that publication
is called Territories
00:50:01.93\00:50:06.49
and it's our yearend report.
00:50:06.52\00:50:08.10
It's being
published right now. Okay.
00:50:08.13\00:50:09.21
Anybody who wants that,
we'll send him a free copy.
00:50:09.24\00:50:11.74
And it outlines all
these ideas and many more.
00:50:11.77\00:50:12.80
All right, and when we
get the DVD they order this,
00:50:12.83\00:50:15.75
your address will be on
there or contact information,
00:50:15.78\00:50:18.35
so they can then.
Great, that's wonderful.
00:50:18.38\00:50:20.70
Just to tell them, just ask for
00:50:20.73\00:50:21.95
the publication
called Territories.
00:50:21.98\00:50:23.70
Yeah, this stuff is
really great stuff, we need it.
00:50:23.73\00:50:26.83
Okay, so number three.
00:50:26.86\00:50:28.83
Okay, so right now we've done
scene one which is Dominion.
00:50:28.86\00:50:33.53
Scene two, which is Abdication.
00:50:33.56\00:50:35.95
Okay and now scene three.
00:50:35.98\00:50:38.43
In scene three is
where the good news
00:50:38.46\00:50:41.63
begins to be
brought to our attention
00:50:41.66\00:50:43.84
and we can call it
a Warrior Promised.
00:50:43.87\00:50:47.96
A Warrior Promised
and it's in Genesis 3:15.
00:50:47.99\00:50:52.41
Genesis 3:15.
00:50:52.44\00:50:53.49
Now Genesis 3:15 is
the first gospel promise
00:50:53.52\00:50:58.59
and it's the
first gospel prophecy,
00:50:58.62\00:51:00.88
because it's a prophecy,
because its foretelling.
00:51:00.91\00:51:03.31
It's a promise because
there's God making a pledge
00:51:03.34\00:51:06.23
that He's going to
actually follow through
00:51:06.26\00:51:08.37
and do something on
behalf of the human race.
00:51:08.40\00:51:11.70
Now the back story of course,
00:51:11.73\00:51:13.09
is that Adam and
Eve had dominion.
00:51:13.12\00:51:15.10
They abdicated and
in that context of them
00:51:15.13\00:51:18.25
abdicating the earth, giving
the earth over to the enemy.
00:51:18.28\00:51:22.60
Genesis 3:15 is this
promise of a coming warrior.
00:51:22.63\00:51:28.38
Genesis 3:15, God
says, now, it's interesting,
00:51:28.41\00:51:31.40
He's speaking to the devil
00:51:31.43\00:51:34.21
just so we know
the context here.
00:51:34.24\00:51:35.75
He is speaking to the devil
in the hearing of Adam and Eve.
00:51:35.78\00:51:39.23
Okay, all right.
00:51:39.26\00:51:40.36
So he says, I will put enmity--
00:51:40.39\00:51:44.88
What's that,
what's that word mean?
00:51:44.91\00:51:45.94
Enmity, hostility,
Hostility, hatred, antagonism.
00:51:45.97\00:51:49.72
Yeah. Okay.
00:51:49.75\00:51:51.78
Hostility would
be a good word. Okay.
00:51:51.81\00:51:53.66
Okay, so God says "I
will put hostility enmity
00:51:53.69\00:51:57.85
between you and the
woman that you is the devil."
00:51:57.88\00:52:01.08
The serpent that
is there in the garden
00:52:01.11\00:52:03.12
that tempted and
led to their fall.
00:52:03.15\00:52:05.58
"I will put enmity between
you the devil and the woman
00:52:05.61\00:52:09.27
between your seed
and her seed and he."
00:52:09.30\00:52:13.09
Singular, okay, "He
shall bruise your head."
00:52:13.12\00:52:17.15
Somebody is going to
bruise your head Satan.
00:52:17.18\00:52:20.01
"And you'll bruise his heel."
00:52:20.04\00:52:21.84
Now in other version it says,
00:52:21.87\00:52:23.71
you will injure his heel
00:52:23.74\00:52:27.99
as he crushes your head.
00:52:28.02\00:52:31.94
So something is happening
here, it's very dynamic. Okay.
00:52:31.97\00:52:34.26
So you're going to
explain for some of our viewers
00:52:34.29\00:52:36.33
what woman he's
talking about things like that.
00:52:36.36\00:52:38.71
Well, the woman here in
the immediate context is Eve
00:52:38.74\00:52:42.29
and in the broader prophetic
and covenantal concept,
00:52:42.32\00:52:46.17
it is the lineage
of the woman. Yeah.
00:52:46.20\00:52:48.76
So God is, God is redeeming.
00:52:48.79\00:52:50.81
He is on a
redemption effort here.
00:52:50.84\00:52:52.70
He is redeeming the woman
and later on in scripture,
00:52:52.73\00:52:55.77
the woman takes
on the personified,
00:52:55.80\00:53:01.05
the personification
of the church. Okay.
00:53:01.08\00:53:03.38
Israel is a woman
that God is in the process
00:53:03.41\00:53:06.72
of winning as his bride
and the church is as a woman?
00:53:06.75\00:53:09.74
So in the
immediate context, it's Eve.
00:53:09.77\00:53:12.14
But it's projecting
forward to this larger symbolism
00:53:12.17\00:53:14.97
that will develop
down through time.
00:53:15.00\00:53:17.05
And the seed of the woman,
00:53:17.08\00:53:19.35
the woman is the one
through whom progeny comes.
00:53:19.38\00:53:23.52
There is a lineage
and there is going to be
00:53:23.55\00:53:25.74
somebody basically the
promise is saying this.
00:53:25.77\00:53:27.99
God is saying to the devil.
00:53:28.02\00:53:29.16
Listen, you just took the earth
from Eve, from Adam and Eve
00:53:29.19\00:53:36.32
but I'm going to send someone
through the woman's body. Wow.
00:53:36.35\00:53:40.60
This is the
first biblical promise
00:53:40.63\00:53:42.68
of the incarnation. Wow, okay.
00:53:42.71\00:53:44.10
I'm going to send
somebody through her body.
00:53:44.13\00:53:46.16
A baby is going to be born
on the scene of human history
00:53:46.19\00:53:50.16
and when that baby is born,
he's going to be a warrior.
00:53:50.19\00:53:54.67
He's going to engage you
00:53:54.70\00:53:56.67
and He's going to crush
the head of the serpent Satan
00:53:56.70\00:54:02.30
and in the process
He will sustain wounding
00:54:02.33\00:54:04.56
and injuring Himself.
00:54:04.59\00:54:06.61
So Jesus was
injured in the process.
00:54:06.64\00:54:10.09
He was crucified
before that He was incarnate.
00:54:10.12\00:54:13.61
He took human nature.
00:54:13.64\00:54:14.77
He condescended to become
a member of the human race.
00:54:14.80\00:54:17.71
And there's every reason
00:54:17.74\00:54:19.08
to believe in the New Testament
00:54:19.11\00:54:20.25
that He will retain
that injury if you will,
00:54:20.28\00:54:23.10
that limitation
of becoming human
00:54:23.13\00:54:25.65
for all eternity in future.
00:54:25.68\00:54:27.23
So Jesus would be wounded
00:54:27.26\00:54:29.04
in the process of
conquering the devil.
00:54:29.07\00:54:32.90
The context here,
Danny, which is so fascinating
00:54:32.93\00:54:36.51
is that is in the
context of this territory
00:54:36.54\00:54:38.66
being transferred to his control
00:54:38.69\00:54:41.66
and basically in
short-hand the Lord is saying,
00:54:41.69\00:54:45.14
you may have won this battle
but I'm going to win the war.
00:54:45.17\00:54:48.04
I'm taking the earth back.
00:54:48.07\00:54:50.68
I just want you to
know, heads up. All right.
00:54:50.71\00:54:53.27
You may have
taken something here.
00:54:53.30\00:54:54.72
But I'm taking the earth back.
00:54:54.75\00:54:56.34
I'm taking the human race back.
00:54:56.37\00:54:58.24
And it's going to
happen through a girl.
00:54:58.27\00:55:00.72
He actually says him, you're
gonna be beat up by a girl.
00:55:00.75\00:55:03.98
A woman is going to whip you.
00:55:04.01\00:55:06.36
That's right. That's right.
00:55:06.39\00:55:08.12
I love what you say there, Ty.
00:55:08.15\00:55:09.36
I think it's
important that we recognize it.
00:55:09.39\00:55:10.69
This is both a promise
because God is pledging Himself.
00:55:10.72\00:55:13.24
He's committing
Himself to the conflict.
00:55:13.27\00:55:15.99
But it's also a
prophecy and that it foretells,
00:55:16.02\00:55:19.44
forecasts that
it's going to happen.
00:55:19.47\00:55:21.79
It hasn't yet happened but
it will happen in the future
00:55:21.82\00:55:25.09
and so the whole of
scripture really pivots
00:55:25.12\00:55:28.78
on two sides of this event.
00:55:28.81\00:55:31.42
This event of
Christ coming into humanity
00:55:31.45\00:55:34.67
and the holy history of Jesus,
00:55:34.70\00:55:36.46
the first side of that seesaw
00:55:36.49\00:55:38.65
is the anticipation
of the coming warrior.
00:55:38.68\00:55:41.95
I like that language.
00:55:41.98\00:55:43.19
And then the second
half is living in the light
00:55:43.22\00:55:45.01
of the victory
gained by that warrior.
00:55:45.04\00:55:47.24
So everything is anticipation,
anticipation, anticipation,
00:55:47.27\00:55:49.99
till we get to
the New Testament.
00:55:50.02\00:55:51.43
And then we'll talk
about what takes place there
00:55:51.46\00:55:53.42
and we're now living in
the light of the victory
00:55:53.45\00:55:56.64
that he has actualized for us.
00:55:56.67\00:55:58.88
We can call it realization.
Anticipation, realization.
00:55:58.91\00:56:03.61
I love Detroit
Bonhoeffer has this great,
00:56:03.64\00:56:06.35
great line in
which he talks about
00:56:06.38\00:56:08.58
that the victory
is not ours to gain,
00:56:08.61\00:56:10.78
the victor is ours
to trust. Oh, okay.
00:56:10.81\00:56:14.48
Yeah, its not, you gain
the victory, you gain, no, no.
00:56:14.51\00:56:18.47
We trust in him
00:56:18.50\00:56:19.80
who has gained the
victory. Has gained the victory.
00:56:19.83\00:56:21.04
But at this point in the story,
this is just promised. Yes.
00:56:21.07\00:56:24.66
And of course, Satan,
he is going to resist that.
00:56:24.69\00:56:26.67
His, the hair is
going to stand up
00:56:26.70\00:56:28.00
on the back of
his neck so to speak.
00:56:28.03\00:56:29.60
He's going to say, oh,
you want a piece of me.
00:56:29.63\00:56:32.15
Okay, game on.
00:56:32.18\00:56:33.21
Because he's already won a
third of the angels in heaven.
00:56:33.24\00:56:35.66
So he's feeling really
good about his chances.
00:56:35.69\00:56:37.15
Okay. He does.
00:56:37.18\00:56:38.21
He's just got Adam and Eve
here and had them abdicate.
00:56:38.24\00:56:42.40
So when God
essentially challenges him
00:56:42.43\00:56:44.59
to a conflict to a battle,
00:56:44.62\00:56:47.01
Satan must be feeling
very good. Bring it on.
00:56:47.04\00:56:49.46
Yeah, he's feeling
very good about his chances.
00:56:49.49\00:56:51.31
He has no idea
what's coming his way.
00:56:51.34\00:56:53.32
Now, he anticipates it
will be a battle of force. Yeah.
00:56:53.35\00:56:57.00
But the way that
God will win the war
00:56:57.03\00:56:59.13
is in a totally out of
it's not seen, its not expected.
00:56:59.16\00:57:03.07
There is a divine
humility here too, Danny,
00:57:03.10\00:57:05.75
because there is no way
for him to know what's coming.
00:57:05.78\00:57:08.69
This one who is
speaking and saying that
00:57:08.72\00:57:11.23
someone is going to
come to crush your head.
00:57:11.26\00:57:13.24
What the Lord doesn't say
here is it will be 'Me.' Okay.
00:57:13.27\00:57:16.59
God Himself will
become a human being.
00:57:16.62\00:57:19.08
We're going have
to keep that thought
00:57:19.11\00:57:20.59
and when we come back
we're done how many points.
00:57:20.62\00:57:22.31
One to three.
Three, what are they.
00:57:22.34\00:57:23.67
Real quick.
00:57:23.70\00:57:24.73
Number one is Dominion.
Number two is Abdication.
00:57:24.76\00:57:27.05
Number 3 is the
Promise of the Warrior.
00:57:27.08\00:57:29.09
I can just tell you now.
00:57:29.12\00:57:30.54
When I was a kid, if
I had to come to home
00:57:30.57\00:57:32.06
and use the word
abdication in my house.
00:57:32.09\00:57:34.34
My dad would
whip me on the spot.
00:57:34.37\00:57:37.05
And ask questions later.
00:57:37.08\00:57:38.65
Several words you guys
say had made me nervous.
00:57:38.68\00:57:42.33
We'll take a break,
we'll back in just a moment.
00:57:42.36\00:57:44.40