3ABN Today LIVE - 1st Hour

Reclaiming Missing Members

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Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), John Lomacang (Host), Doug Batchelor

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Program Code: TLA011506


00:01 Hello and welcome to 3ABN Live.
01:02 Thank you for joining us as you do each
01:04 and everyday, and we especially love doing
01:07 this live program, don't we Pastor John?
01:08 Oh we sure do especially when
01:10 we have really good guest.
01:11 Well we do and tonight we have such
01:13 one, and do you this fellow that we have tonight?
01:15 Yeah he looks familiar I think have
01:16 seen him in the past before, my good
01:18 friend Pastor Doug Batchelor.
01:20 Hi Doug it's good to have you here tonight.
01:21 Good to be here Danny.
01:22 And coming all the way from California.
01:26 More directly from Nashville, but yes,
01:28 oh okay via California. Yeah, we hear you
01:30 have some meetings in Nashville and so
01:32 you just drove on up, yup.
01:34 Alright, we're glad that you are here,
01:36 and it's always a treat and pleasure to have
01:38 you and Doug for people John that literally,
01:42 how many years you been on in 3ABN approximately?
01:45 Well it must have been 17 years,
01:47 because it was just before Steven
01:48 was born and he is 17 now.
01:50 Yeah, I know this from getting a little
01:52 bit of handle on things, I really when
01:55 it comes to people writing letters or
01:56 saying we came to the truth, and came to the
01:59 Lord you know through 3ABN,
02:01 a good percentage at that time, your name
02:03 is mentioned among some of the other
02:05 fellows too, but almost always we hear,
02:08 thanks to Pastor Doug Batchelor.
02:09 So, Doug you have, God has blessed you,
02:12 you are tremendous communicator,
02:14 and God has given you a gift for that,
02:17 and of course your love for Jesus comes
02:18 out and you are person, I said to someone the
02:21 other day I said, if I ever really got in
02:23 trouble and I had to be somewhere before
02:26 anybody and I had to explain you know
02:28 myself I said I want to take Doug with me.
02:31 So, I take Doug Batchelor maybe he
02:32 could get me out if I am in a jam, oh yeah,
02:35 because he knows how to do it.
02:36 I will make it worse. No, you know Bob,
02:41 Bobby Davis said if he had a nickel for
02:43 every time somebody said you know Pastor
02:45 Doug, Pastor Doug he said he will be rich
02:47 man right now, yeah because of all the
02:49 people that watch and listen and take Bible
02:52 questions at all, yeah. Oh yeah, we had fun
02:55 throughout the years doing that together.
02:56 But, we are here and we are not trying to
02:58 lift up Doug Batchelor, but we are trying to
03:00 lift up the Jesus say amen, amen.
03:01 God has people on the frontlines;
03:03 we want you to pray for Pastor Doug.
03:05 I can't see all the hands at home but
03:07 I would love to say how many of you will
03:08 pray for Pastor Doug and Amazing Facts.
03:10 He is President of Amazing Facts,
03:12 and Amazing Facts as you have been there a
03:15 number of years, but it's been existence
03:17 since how many? 45 years now, 25 years,
03:20 45, 45 years yeah and. I've been there 16,
03:24 16 you have been that long, boy that's amazing.
03:27 And anyway we are glad that you are here
03:28 tonight and thank you at home for those of
03:30 you joining us as we said already that
03:33 thank you for your love and your prayers
03:35 and financial support of 3ABN as when we
03:38 will be able to take this gospel of
03:39 kingdom into all the world, it's been 20
03:42 over 26 years actually going on 27 Doug,
03:45 when the Lord impressed me to build a television
03:47 station to reach the world.
03:48 And thanks to people like yourself and
03:50 Pastor Lomacang and Pastor C.A. Murray
03:52 and the list goes on, that the undiluted
03:55 Three Angels messages is continuing to get to
03:58 the lost and dying world, amen.
04:00 There are many ways we can do it, many,
04:02 many ways that we can get the gospel to
04:04 the world and one of those is through music.
04:06 And John we have a special guest tonight
04:09 do you know the young lady that singing?
04:10 Oh yes, we have a wonderful song
04:12 Melody Firestone, she is gonna be singing
04:16 one of her newer song from her new CD, okay.
04:19 A song that I love very much
04:20 is entitled "Change Me Now".
04:41 You were denied, then crucified
04:51 Yet You prayed to Your father
04:55 To forgive us We caused you pain,
05:05 time and again Still You laid down Your life
05:13 Because You loved us I was guilty then,
05:22 here I am again Against You only
05:31 have I sinned So change me now
05:40 Never let my heart grow cold
05:46 Change me somehow Purify this needy soul
05:56 Look into my heart Tell me what You see
06:05 Cleanse me when You find Any wicked ways in me
06:14 With Your tender touch Lord, I need you
06:20 so much To change me now
06:30 The seeds I've sown, the deeds I've done
06:38 By the power of Your blood Please remove them
06:48 Restore my joy, I need you, Lord
06:56 I need more of Your love So You can use me
07:05 Will You search my heart? With Your holy light
07:16 Take every wrong and make it right Lord hear my cry
07:27 Please change me Never let this heart grow cold
07:37 Change me somehow Purify this needy soul
07:47 Will You look into my heart
07:51 Tell me what You see Cleanse me when
07:57 You find Any wicked way in me
08:05 This very hour Fill me with Your power
08:13 I want to be so close to You Jesus
08:18 Nothing stands between us With Your tender touch
08:26 Lord, I need You so much
08:31 To change me now Lord change me now
09:01 Thank you Melody that's still my baby
09:03 girl you know. Wonderful song too.
09:05 Well it is and she does a great job,
09:06 she is like Doug has a gift for communication.
09:10 She used to talk very little and I don't know
09:12 now she is kind of coming out of her
09:13 shell I said she may end up hosting some
09:15 programs here Doug who know.
09:17 I told her that she laugh, but I said hey
09:19 you are starting to talk some and you got a
09:21 lot to say and I appreciate Melody
09:23 and Greg and all the grand kids,
09:26 I mean they are just wonderful and it's great.
09:28 Once again it's good to have Pastor Doug
09:30 Batchelor here with Amazing Facts.
09:33 Doug give us a little bit of background
09:34 what's happen in Amazing Facts,
09:36 and I'm sure we have got some topic that
09:39 we really wanna talk about tonight.
09:41 But, we wanna let people know as we
09:43 are going a little further now, getting
09:45 into this if you have questions and
09:46 comments things come up we want you
09:48 to start calling in, because the second
09:50 hour we intent to take some of our questions.
09:52 And if you have any questions about the
09:54 Bible you got Pastor Doug and Pastor John here,
09:57 so I'm sure that would be a great place to start.
10:00 But, John we have free offer tonight too.
10:02 Oh yes we do, it's a little book by Joe
10:04 Crews actually it's Joe Crews is the one who
10:07 started Amazing Facts I understand and it's
10:09 entitled "Is It Easier to Be Lost or to Be Saved".
10:12 And this is our free offer tonight if you
10:14 like to get a copy of that, you can email us
10:16 at freeoffer@3abn.org or call us at
10:19 618-627-4651 for your free copy.
10:23 That's really good question, is it easier to
10:25 be saved or to be lost? A lot of times people
10:28 think it's easy to be lost, but this book
10:30 really opens your eyes about
10:32 which one is really easier. And so you wanna
10:34 copy of this book tonight. Good alright, Pastor
10:37 Doug update us little bit what's happening
10:40 in your life, in our ministry?
10:42 Well we're really excited about of course all
10:45 these different aspects of evangelism
10:47 that are available. We are so close
10:49 I think to the Lord is coming,
10:52 you know you just look what's happening
10:53 to the world. Praise the Lord.
10:54 And in particular everyone knows in
10:57 the news recently we've seen enormous
10:59 transition in the Middle East and I've
11:02 been studying, John and I were eating
11:04 together last night and I was picking his
11:06 brain little bit for his ideas about Islam in
11:09 prophecy, because we've seen tremendous
11:12 transition in you know Libya, Egypt,
11:16 Tunisia, I've been to Egypt and Tunisia not
11:20 been to Libya yet, and just through the whole
11:23 region Bahrain and it's been real interest
11:27 to us because Amazing Facts has been we've been
11:29 we've been translating some materials into
11:32 some of the Islamic languages,
11:35 Farsi and Arabic and we are planning some
11:39 meetings now in this year, I'm going in
11:43 August to Dubai to do little revival series
11:47 among the Christians there. We got to be very
11:49 careful about public evangelism, that's true
11:51 in this Islamic countries. They have laws were
11:54 it's you know forbidden to proselytize, but you
11:57 can minister to people of the existing faith
12:01 and then from there 09/11 which is gonna
12:04 be the 10 year anniversary of 09/11
12:08 it's 2011, we'll be preaching the gospel
12:14 in Jakarta which is the most populous
12:16 Islamic country in the world.
12:18 And so we were excited about that,
12:20 we listen everybody's prayers and you know
12:24 I think it's interesting and I'm just gonna
12:27 I will share this as just sort of background
12:30 information with all that's happening in the
12:33 Middle East and I was talking to John last
12:35 night saying you know I'm not
12:36 claiming I know what all these answers are,
12:39 but I think it's just worthy of mention in
12:42 Daniel chapter 12 just before the
12:43 end of the world. And it says in verse 1,
12:46 At that time Michael will stand up,
12:48 the great prince who stands for the sons of
12:50 your people; And there will be a time of
12:52 trouble, such as never was since there was a
12:54 nation even on to that same time.
12:57 And then it goes on and it talks about
12:58 many of those who sleep in the dust of
13:00 the earth awake the resurrection,
13:03 just before Michael stands up probation
13:06 closes, the end of the world, time of
13:07 trouble, resurrection. It's specifically
13:10 mentions in verse 43 Egypt and Libya
13:16 along with four other Islamic countries.
13:20 And you see everything that's
13:22 happening in the world today with the
13:24 I mean the economies of the world right now
13:27 are just teetering on a very volatile edge,
13:31 oil which still drives the economy of the
13:35 world in many ways powers things.
13:37 You know it's so dependent on that
13:39 region and these international
13:41 relationships and problems with the
13:44 commodities of the world and the value,
13:46 you know over spending in the
13:47 country and it just it feels like,
13:50 I know that's not a very good theological
13:52 way to put it, but it just feels like,
13:57 it's never felt before. That's good isn't it?
14:00 Yeah I tell you what it hit me when I started
14:03 listening in the last couple of months and
14:05 seeing all the up risings I said.
14:08 This is not a coincidence, divine providence.
14:11 Something has to change in order for
14:13 the gospel to get there. These people are standing
14:15 up and trying to get rid of some of the
14:17 leadership saying we want freedom,
14:19 we want and with freedom like what
14:21 happen to Russia you know what happen
14:23 and all of us know what happened as
14:24 soon as the Government failed,
14:26 all of a sudden they welcome this,
14:28 even though they didn't agree many of
14:30 the people but, they wanted to say,
14:31 we wanna participate in freedom,
14:33 so you can come in, you can preach things
14:35 it's never happen, so I think this has got or
14:38 dangerous like the wall you know it's
14:42 Berlin the wall is coming down,
14:44 the iron curtain coming down.
14:46 And I think this is an opening God is gonna
14:48 use this mightily and we all need to be right
14:51 there as it happens, and be some of the
14:53 first ones in, so thank you for what you are
14:55 doing and we wanna support what you are doing.
14:58 Well we're really excited you know
15:00 people see what's happening in the
15:01 Middle East and it's very volatile and folks
15:03 are free that you know will this trigger some
15:06 kind of war with Israel and Iran and
15:08 what's gonna happen in, I think the Lord is
15:10 using the way you just mention that it
15:13 shocked everybody how all of the sudden
15:16 this whole nation with 11 time zone was
15:19 open to the gospel. And Karen and I were,
15:22 this was before Steven was even born
15:23 we were one of the first teams that went
15:25 in back then and did meetings in Stavropol,
15:28 and something has to happen in China, right.
15:31 So, you know the Bible says the gospel
15:34 will be preached in all the world for witness
15:36 to the nations and then the end will
15:38 come Matthew 24:14. And 3ABN now you
15:43 know you are sowing seed all over the world.
15:44 I still think that something needs to
15:46 happen on the ground where you can get
15:48 boots on the ground, yes sure, so to speak.
15:50 And that's where you know the word they
15:52 got the aerial assault and they get boots on
15:54 the ground at some point, sure.
15:55 And so 3ABN is doing like the air
15:58 force does before, we are softening up and
16:01 preparing in many of these countries.
16:04 And but I think the things are changing in
16:07 China right now, and we have some
16:11 missionaries over there. We have a Chinese
16:14 website Amazing Facts. The cosmic conflicts
16:17 just been translated into Chinese,
16:19 into Mandarin and some copies made it
16:21 over, and it's been mass produce,
16:24 I'm sure it's in the black-market and
16:25 people are selling it, but one of our
16:28 workers over there who I'll only call
16:30 Mr. Who, I don't want to say what his name
16:33 right now, so we call Mr. and Miss Who,
16:36 that's good. You couldn't brethren their
16:38 name or they are out. Remember there is a
16:40 dignitary that came, it was from China when
16:42 they say well who is in the Whitehouse and
16:44 it's exactly well who is there he is.
16:46 That was his name that's right.
16:48 Well we just this is sort of an affection in
16:49 term for a couple that we have over there,
16:51 but they said they don't know a
16:54 Christian from any denomination that has
16:57 not now seen the final events in Chinese, wow.
17:00 They think that's gonna happen with
17:01 the cosmic conflict, so there is a tremendous
17:04 work, and we are one of many ministries
17:05 yeah is working in China right now,
17:07 it's a lot of people, and so we're very
17:12 excited about that. We are excited about
17:14 working with the world church in this
17:16 emphasis this year especially on revival, yes.
17:19 I feel that need in my life and I think
17:22 everybody resonates with that, right.
17:25 And something else we've been talking to
17:27 3ABN about, I don't know if it's to
17:28 premature mention this just yet but,
17:31 oh I would. It seems like as you go from
17:35 church to church there are more people on
17:38 the books that are actually missing or
17:40 inactive members. We have some in
17:42 Sacramento Central too. And there is all these
17:47 phantom members out there that either got
17:49 discouraged, or they have problems with
17:54 doctrine, or somebody hurt their feelings,
17:59 and they are disaffected or offended somehow.
18:02 And so we've been talking about what
18:05 can we do to reclaim these missing members?
18:07 And so usually once a year Amazing Facts
18:10 and 3ABN get together and we do
18:12 kids meeting or the teen meeting we did
18:14 this last year, right. And so we are looking
18:16 this fall of doing a special series that will
18:18 emphasize how do we reclaim people?
18:21 That maybe we were raised in the message,
18:23 they went to our schools, or they went
18:25 to church they were baptized, but
18:27 something happen and either they have
18:29 problems doctrinally or somebody offended
18:32 them, or they became discourage or
18:36 distracted by the things of the world.
18:39 And so we've been talking about developing a
18:41 special series this fall to reclaim missing
18:44 members, that might be kids who have
18:46 been raised in the faith or people who
18:49 were members but for one of these usually
18:51 three reasons they become discouraged.
18:54 You know we have lot of, lot of people
18:55 who are discourage nowadays because
18:56 they are loosing jobs, and they are loosing
18:59 their homes, they are loosing the things that
19:01 seem to have been the most constant thing.
19:03 If you got at home people will say will
19:04 I be here for the rest of my life, well that's
19:06 not the case any longer. If I get a job it's gonna
19:08 be secure for the rest of my life because
19:10 this way I'm comfortable that's not the case in
19:12 some people, when they loose the things
19:14 that they trust in the most, the first thing
19:17 that suffers is their spiritual walk.
19:18 So, they stay home and create what I refer
19:21 to as their own pity party or sometimes
19:24 not a pity party but they just get so
19:26 discourage because they loose trust and hope.
19:29 Well Doug the reason I think its such an
19:30 incredible, the timing of this is so perfect is
19:33 because it may come a shock to some of us,
19:36 but the way we are gonna get him back
19:37 is love him back. And most of the people
19:40 that I talk to and you guys are pastors,
19:42 but when I travel and people talk to me their
19:45 son left the church, their daughter,
19:47 their grand children, it was not over the
19:49 doctrines, it's usually over their feelings
19:51 been hurt, someone didn't treat them right
19:54 in a loving church, and they expect
19:56 everybody to be saints. Now I don't know
19:58 why we do that because none of us
20:00 are saints but we expect people to treat
20:02 us, so there is awful lot and usually there
20:05 is, when it's comes to I've notice in our
20:07 church when people leave, they rarely just
20:10 stared attending other church they just kind a,
20:13 kind a, kind of quite going to church.
20:15 But, some of these folk will still pay tithe
20:17 I know some right now, that send some
20:18 tithe already here that's not attending
20:21 church but send some tithe answers,
20:23 we don't go to church anymore but you
20:25 know but these folk all just need love,
20:28 And we can decide that that's what
20:30 it's all about, loving people right where
20:32 they are. You know I know that you can
20:35 wrap everything that you do is wrapped in
20:37 love and of course God is love,
20:39 so it's wrapped in Jesus. I think it's a tremendous
20:42 idea and I think you should have
20:44 tremendous success because if nothing
20:45 else it gets each of us understanding maybe
20:48 we have to point some fingers at our self
20:51 John, that's right. Why some of these
20:52 folks are out there, we can't just say well
20:54 they whatever, look at our self, look at our
20:57 church, why do we here for, what do we
20:59 do to love people and to keep them in the church.
21:03 You know I don't think there is any easy
21:05 answer and you know I'm for one not
21:08 pretending that we are gonna have a meeting
21:10 that's gonna bring everybody back,
21:12 or is that one thing will do it.
21:15 But, I try to ask myself if I was on an
21:17 aeroplane for two hours or so.
21:20 And I'm sitting next to somebody and
21:21 talking to them I find out I was raise in the church.
21:26 And I found out that they either got
21:29 discouraged with somebody offending
21:31 them, or they got distracted by the cares
21:34 of life, or there was a problem with
21:37 doctrine, what would I say to them?
21:41 And if we could develop a program,
21:42 and I've really been praying about this,
21:43 I thought about this for years, but if we
21:45 could develop a program where we
21:47 could give members a DVD you know
21:50 broadcast it for them to have material
21:53 where they could go to somebody and give
21:56 them something and say you know I know
21:58 that use to be a part of our church, I like you
21:59 to just take a look at this.
22:01 And a presentation that might help be the
22:04 catalyst for having them come and visit
22:07 the church for a special friendship Sabbath.
22:09 You know folks come to me all the time and
22:12 and I know do you and they say I've got
22:13 this love one, what can I do to reach them?
22:17 And I actually learn this from C.D. Brooks
22:19 and I've never found the better answer,
22:21 but is really there is three things,
22:22 there is only three things you can't really
22:24 add to it or diminish from it, there are three
22:27 things you can do to reach people that you
22:29 wanna reach. One is be a good example,
22:33 love them. Pray for them, and that's often
22:38 mention as a sort of dismissive way off
22:41 you can pray as though that's nothing
22:43 but it's very powerful. And so we like to
22:45 develop like a prayer reminder card and
22:48 have people put down the name of the one or
22:50 ones who are trying to reach and really focus
22:52 prayers on that person. And the other thing is
22:55 share information if they are willing.
22:57 Now you can't force information on people
22:58 that say, don't preach to me.
23:00 But, if they are open you can give him a
23:02 book, you can give him a CD or DVD or something.
23:05 And if you do all those things together
23:09 you certainly increase the odds that you
23:11 gonna bring some of these people back.
23:14 And I've just really been praying because
23:17 everywhere I go, it seems like we are
23:20 hearing about churches and I'll say how many
23:22 members do you have? And they will say,
23:23 what do you want to know what's on the
23:24 book or how many come, right, right.
23:26 In some cases you will have an example
23:29 25 people attend a 125 on the books,
23:33 have mercy. And you now this folks all over
23:36 that knew the message and for one
23:40 of this three reasons they don't attend anymore.
23:43 That's true, a lot of churches are
23:44 identified by their capacity rather than
23:47 their attending membership.
23:49 They say hey come to my church we hold
23:50 400, they will say how many show up, well.
23:54 Yeah you mention on an aeroplane you are sitting,
23:58 I was going out west sometime ago,
24:01 and I had to go away, I went to Denver,
24:04 the flight I shouldn't say the name because
24:07 they are all late but it's an airlines that
24:09 was late and for their own connection.
24:11 So, I had to go totally all they way.
24:13 I mean I was trying to get out to the west
24:16 upper west like Washington, and ended up going to
24:19 California, and then making a couple of stops,
24:21 it took me I could have to Russia about as quick.
24:25 And it was when so I was frustrated but the
24:27 last flight was a small plane, and smaller
24:31 plane I think it had 18 rows or something,
24:33 and because of the switching I was on the
24:35 last row in the last seat, and I said this is
24:40 the way my day has been going and there
24:41 was a guy sitting across from me.
24:43 And we know we also got to the back of the plane,
24:47 yeah that's right its a small plane,
24:49 and there was a guy sitting across from me
24:51 that he had when he was asked for drink
24:53 he had ordered beer and he was sitting
24:55 there, so he was, we were up there talking,
24:57 and when they got back to the snacks
24:59 with my hand up the lady said I'm sorry
25:02 I just ran out, we don't really have any
25:05 snacks left like to you know the crackers or
25:07 pretzels whatever they give you.
25:09 So, I just start laughing, and I said
25:11 that's alright that's because this whole
25:12 day has been that way, but at least we
25:15 are in the air, so the guy when she left he
25:17 said, well he said I have to say you are in
25:19 pretty good mood he said, that here all the
25:21 places you have been. And I said well you
25:24 know what everything I said I believe
25:26 happens by divine providence.
25:27 So, I'm fine we are still alive we are doing good.
25:30 So, I said I believe my life is in Lords hands
25:33 and I'm okay with it, and he said you know
25:35 I've been watching you for while and he
25:38 said I we were talking earlier he said I didn't
25:41 want tell you this but I'm a member of same
25:45 church you are Adventist, but I haven't been to
25:48 church in several years, wow.
25:50 And he said I'm headed out to the
25:51 same town where you work is my folk city,
25:54 my folks live out there. And he said I've been,
25:56 I think he said 6, 8 years. And he said when I go
25:59 every time I go to my folk's house they wanna
26:02 on every TV in the house to 3ABN,
26:05 hoping that I will see it. And so he said I knew
26:08 who you were, I just didn't say anything,
26:10 but he says you what he said I'm glad I got
26:13 to meet you and so we talked a bit and I said
26:15 well tell what you are gonna tomorrow,
26:17 he said well I'm going rafting.
26:18 I said I want you to come to church.
26:20 He said all the roof would fall in,
26:21 I said no, I said why don't you come,
26:23 oh people you know they don't want to see
26:25 me, I said no they love you I can tell you
26:27 already they love you there is people want
26:29 you be there. You know what next
26:31 morning 11'o clock service hour big
26:33 church he walked in the back and sit down.
26:36 And so that was his start of coming back
26:38 he said I know I should have done this
26:40 long time I got my feelings hurt, I been
26:43 offended and now the more I put it off the
26:45 harder it is to come back to church but he came.
26:49 And all those delays you had were God's
26:52 way of making that appointment.
26:53 Yeah, it was divine providence.
26:55 It's amazing how that happens.
26:57 You know never know the reason for
26:58 all that until you finally get to the end
27:00 of the road and say, yeah. Well this is why the
27:02 Lord had me switching, it's kind of like checkers
27:05 do you both are they are not by your design
27:08 but by God's design. He has been moving
27:10 you into position to meet somebody,
27:12 he want to use me. Two days ago I was
27:13 on a flight and I sit across to me was
27:16 Hulk Hogan and his wife. So, I didn't get much
27:19 chance to talk but when I left he is about
27:21 this big and his arms are bigger my legs
27:23 and I said. I just want let you know lucky
27:26 for you I'm not in a wrestling mood today.
27:28 So, I'm just gonna let you off easy I told him.
27:30 So, they he thank me and his wife both said
27:32 well thanks we appreciate you,
27:34 you know not to work me over, so but no
27:37 you don't know who you are gonna meet
27:38 but it's great point and there are people all
27:41 around that need to know that they are
27:43 loved, and most of all Jesus loves them.
27:45 So, Doug we wanna be a part of this,
27:47 I know Jim wants to be a part of this,
27:49 all of us here at 3ABN and whatever
27:52 we can do to help in our audience,
27:54 let's get them above right.
27:56 And the main thing is prayer, you know this
27:59 whole year we were praying about revival
28:01 in our lives, but I think the most
28:03 important reason for revival is that we can
28:05 be better witnesses. And you know one of
28:08 the first things that Jesus wanted to do,
28:11 is to go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
28:13 And so the first area of evangelism for us
28:16 as we are engaged in revival is our families,
28:20 and the people that we are once our brethren
28:22 that have become discourage.
28:23 We should start with those lost sheep and
28:26 they already know the fundamentals and for
28:28 whatever reason they have got distracted,
28:32 and we need to pray for them.
28:34 I would like to encourage everybody
28:35 to be praying about this project because
28:38 it's so very dynamic right now.
28:39 We've been looking about the best date
28:41 and location and you know it will be easy
28:45 for us to put it off, but we are so close to the
28:47 end, we are trying to move it up, right,
28:48 and get it done and we just really need prayer.
28:53 Reach a program to reach missing
28:56 members, yeah. You know a missing member.
28:58 Sure, and we can get all the churches
28:59 involved to let people know when the
29:01 meetings are coming, we want you at home
29:03 to because you all I'm sure every church
29:05 there are certain members and maybe
29:07 make special contact with these, and let
29:10 them know that you know if they don't get
29:12 us at home, they can come to the church
29:13 and watch it, you know this is great,
29:16 I think it's wonderful. And you also have to
29:18 pray for wisdom on that, because you
29:20 know in the Bible there are number of
29:21 people when the Lord gave the parable of
29:24 the lost coin, the lost sheep, the lost son,
29:26 there are some who are lost that don't
29:29 know they are lost, that's right.
29:30 The others that are lost that required a lot
29:32 of effort to find them, and then there are
29:34 some that are lost that don't want you to
29:36 come after them, the Prodigal Son he just
29:38 have to pray for them till the Lord opens up
29:42 their eyes to their circumstances and
29:43 they will come back on their own recognizance.
29:46 So, I think that what we could to prepare
29:47 for that is maybe go through our list in the
29:50 directory and start praying for those
29:51 names and you will be amazed the number
29:54 of stories we told about people that were
29:56 converted and baptized because some people
29:58 just picked names out of the phone book and
30:00 and pray for them. And when the
30:01 baptism time came they got the particular
30:03 story, we will come back to that later on
30:05 the program. Seven, out of the many
30:08 people 7 of those people were people
30:10 that lady just picked names out of her
30:13 towns phone book and pray for them,
30:15 really, and saw 7 of them getting baptized.
30:18 Let me just say word here, I wanna hi to
30:20 Miss Batchelor and the Batchelor boys.
30:23 And by the way Danny you will get a
30:24 kick out this, I wish I'd saved for a weeks
30:27 and kept listening to it. I got this voice mail
30:30 on my phone and it said grandpa will you
30:35 please call me and in the background I hear
30:36 my voice, and it was our daughter Jessie
30:41 who was in the Mexico, she ran into
30:43 the program on Dish Network, and she
30:46 thought oh there he is, I wanna talk to him
30:48 and so she was watching 3ABN, alright.
30:50 I thought it was so precious but Karen is
30:53 becoming more involved in our membership
30:55 list Sacramento Central, okay.
30:56 And she is just want into get updated and
30:58 organize and in the process she calls
31:02 people to say is your address right, and she
31:04 always says you know are you going some
31:06 more else we haven't seen you lately and
31:08 you know our big cities its easy to,
31:09 people go to different churches and they
31:11 don't know which they transfer.
31:13 And some people only wanted a phone
31:15 call and they started coming back again, wow.
31:18 They wanted someone to say where have you
31:20 been, I notice you are missing.
31:23 And so a big percentage of these people that
31:25 are missing wanna come back, but they
31:28 just want someone to notice they are gone,
31:30 and invite him back, everyone wants
31:32 to be wanted. Right oh sure,
31:34 but how does this work hand in hand
31:35 with the revival and its wonderful because,
31:38 if we can maybe get people to come back
31:40 to church but, if nothing is changed
31:42 they maybe leaving again. So, this year revival
31:44 and reformation within a church it
31:47 gives a several months for that and
31:48 when people come in and see a new
31:50 anointing of the Holy Spirit, they are gonna
31:52 wanna be a part of this. That's your new spirit.
31:55 Everybody is at the bottom and looking up.
31:57 Everybody has a homing device that's
32:00 says we are really strangers here
32:01 sojourners and our real place is heaven,
32:05 that's right. We just have to help him.
32:08 Yeah it's absolutely the priority right now,
32:12 and we can't wait until we see the
32:13 heavens part before we realize our need to
32:16 be right with God. And you know as the
32:19 years ago by I become painfully aware of
32:23 that everyday is a gift and while you've got
32:27 your strength and you've got some
32:28 clarity of mind, you need to just be ready
32:32 to for the Lord at any moment.
32:35 And what you were just saying about
32:36 meeting that gentleman on the aeroplane,
32:39 it's occurred to me that God is so
32:41 powerful that if we tell him everyday we
32:43 are willing to be use by you Lord to reach
32:46 people, that he will arrange providence all
32:49 through the day where everything it happens
32:51 well accomplish one of two things,
32:52 everything that happens, will he would be
32:55 working to save us or working to save
32:57 others through us usually both.
33:01 And so every little thing be a late for a
33:04 flight or missing a plane or you know
33:06 any kind of blessing, or problem that may
33:08 come you have to always recognize in
33:11 the great picture God is wanting to use us
33:13 somehow to sanctify me or to reach other
33:17 people through me, and so I'm just gonna
33:19 thank him and praise him for, good.
33:21 People wanna to know truth, I mean
33:23 that's a thing they wanna know truth,
33:24 in the last few years I sat by two professional
33:27 athletes that I ended up praying with
33:29 holding hands with them praying right on
33:30 an aeroplane, they both had left their
33:33 respective churches, one was a professional
33:36 wrestler, big time big name wrestler.
33:38 They have dolls you can go into Wal-Mart
33:40 and some buy dolls of him and another was
33:43 football player with Indiana Colts.
33:45 And the Lord just work to where we sat
33:47 you know right next to each other fairly
33:50 long trips and both of these guys told me,
33:54 said these separate flights the same story.
33:57 When they were young, one of them
33:59 lost their mother, and everybody told him
34:02 God took their mother to heaven.
34:04 So, they say well he said I was raised
34:06 without mother, every school function.
34:08 I didn't have a mother, everybody has had a mother.
34:11 Everything I want to do, and then he said
34:13 all the Christians around me said well
34:15 God took your mother he wanted her to you
34:17 know be in heaven. So, he said I don't
34:18 have anything to do with God.
34:20 You know the other one was the same
34:22 thing so I begin to share him now John 10:10
34:25 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to
34:28 kill, and to destroy Jesus says I've came
34:30 to give you life and give it more abundantly.
34:32 So, we started going through these things
34:34 and literally I was able to pray with both of them.
34:37 And I call one of him later out in Texas and
34:39 talk to him and give him some books of
34:41 Desire of Ages, Great Controversy.
34:43 And he said this is so life changing,
34:45 we don't hear that and we never, why didn't
34:48 we know this information. Amen, yeah, there is
34:51 always wonderful opportunities.
34:54 I wanna ask you a question going back
34:56 to the issue about the Muslim, but first what
34:58 I wanna do is remind our audience about
34:59 our special offer, okay sure.
35:01 Because you just talked about salvation
35:02 and reclaiming missing members has a lot to
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35:30 Getting back to the issue of Muslims,
35:31 one of the things I'm noticing also there is a
35:35 climate around the world religiously on
35:38 one end the doors are opening for people to
35:41 be able to preach Christianity in more
35:43 parts of the world. But on the other side
35:45 of that there is movement to prohibit
35:47 what you can actually say when you preach?
35:51 So, how do you see that fitting into the
35:54 picture of the gospel getting to the world
35:57 when you almost being told what you
35:58 can and cannot say in certain parts of the world.
36:02 Yeah that was such a great controversy,
36:04 and at the same time you've got this Titanic
36:07 War that's raging between the forces of
36:09 good and evil, between God's angels
36:10 and the devil's angels. God is trying to open
36:13 the doors through his providence.
36:15 And well of course you know the God
36:17 can do anything by force if he wanted
36:18 too, but he is working through humans and
36:21 his angels and we don't know who he cooperate.
36:25 And so you've seen opportunity opening
36:26 up in some of these countries that are
36:28 predominately Buddhist or Muslim or Hindu.
36:33 At the same time in the Western world
36:36 and the first world countries,
36:38 they are saying anything negative you
36:40 might say about anyone else's religion,
36:43 so if you were to talk about you know the
36:45 Beast of Revelation, or if you were to talk
36:48 about Godly Living and you know say
36:50 anything negative about same sex marriage.
36:52 It's classified as hate speech, and people
36:55 are being shutdown for these things.
36:58 There are some countries where our
37:00 teams go and matter of fact this week I met
37:02 with some broadcasters from another country,
37:05 said we really appreciate your program, now
37:07 keep in mind in our country we preview
37:10 the programs and we have to pull the
37:12 programs if you say anything that has any
37:15 kind of a negative slant on the
37:17 homosexual lifestyle. And I mean you
37:23 basically and sensibly you could just open
37:25 up the Bible and read what it says about
37:28 you know man is not supposed to lie with a
37:30 man as with the woman, yeah and they
37:31 says that's hate speech. You know what, that
37:33 limits proclamation, I was telling John and
37:36 Doug today I don't know if any of you
37:38 did you hear on the news this week,
37:40 I heard in England a Pentecostal Christian
37:42 family foster parents having their kids
37:45 taken away from them for saying that they
37:48 believe in homosexual life trying to teach
37:50 these young children a homosexual lifestyle
37:53 as a sin according to the Bible.
37:55 I mean what is this world coming to,
37:57 that's amazing, so the only way they can
37:59 keep him, as you can't teach them what the
38:02 Bible says. I mean it's unbelievable I heard it
38:05 and I marveled I said are we there already,
38:07 are we that close you know that that's
38:11 happening, that happens in England
38:12 and it can happen here in United States I'm
38:14 sure it will before too long.
38:16 That you can't really, you don't really have
38:18 freedom of religion if you can't say what
38:20 you believe, yeah. On some of the prominent
38:23 commandments dealing with adultery with
38:27 covetousness and materialism with you
38:32 know honoring your parents and parental rights.
38:35 The culture through the media is they are
38:39 all under attack instead of parents
38:41 being responsible for their families and
38:43 children being taught to respect their
38:45 mother and father. Parents by the MTV
38:49 generation are being derided and marked,
38:52 and degraded and dishonoring your
38:54 parents it just seems like is promoted.
38:57 The marriage relationship you know I think that
38:59 most people know that typical television
39:02 that they figure that you introduce
39:03 yourself to somebody and next thing you
39:06 know you share bed and shake hands and
39:08 that's it like there is just marriage has lost
39:11 its sanctity and oh this is gonna sound like
39:16 what they call in television a plug.
39:19 I've been so troubled as I just finished a
39:20 book, good marriage. I was thinking it's
39:22 funny because yeah for some one name
39:25 Batchelor to write a book upon about
39:26 marriage, yeah you practice, you have
39:28 think about it, but we get so many questions
39:31 even Christian families you know the divorce
39:33 rate is about as high is in the world and it's
39:35 called romance and reality the Bible on
39:39 marriage divorce and remarriage,
39:41 because we get a lot of questions on that.
39:44 And so that's under attack in the materialism,
39:47 the commandment about covetousness,
39:49 that's right. it's like a man's life Jesus said
39:52 is not consistently abundance of things
39:54 that he possesses and yet we were spending
39:57 our souls into oblivion and lot of
39:59 people just their credit cards are maxed out,
40:03 and it's all been promoted these counter biblical
40:07 principles are being promoted by the
40:10 media of the world and that's why I'm so
40:12 thankful for 3ABN that gives the other message.
40:15 I mean I'm amazed this Bill Meyer I think
40:18 it's his name Meyer, I don't know how to
40:19 say it in HBO has a show, I'm not sure
40:24 anyway Bill he has a show and one night
40:27 I happen to see it. Somebody said you
40:29 got to watch this show and I was at hotel,
40:32 watched the show and it's okay for him to
40:35 make fun of all Christians, makes fun
40:38 of anybody who is a Christian, makes fun
40:40 anybody that believes in creation they can
40:43 do all that and that's politically correct,
40:46 isn't that amazing, it's amazing fact, that's an
40:49 amazing fact, if you can think about it,
40:51 they can do all of that and everybody
40:53 applauded him the audience did and he
40:55 had a man on their that it was talking and
40:59 he is a politician but he said you are
41:01 Christian, he said yeah and he said you
41:03 believe in creation? Yeah, you believe in God?
41:06 And he just started laughing and he said
41:07 this is how dumb basically I want paraphrase,
41:10 how dumb can you be and you are a
41:12 politician and you believe foolish stuff
41:15 like that and the audience was thrill to death.
41:18 You know like oh how wonderful,
41:19 he is really put him in a place and that's
41:22 politically correct, so why isn't that consider
41:25 a hate crime. You know what I'm
41:26 saying? Because we know that the devil is
41:28 in charge, he is the prince of this earth.
41:30 Well the whole battle between these
41:33 cultures has been fought right now in
41:36 the on the platform in North America and in
41:39 the media. And when you mention
41:42 somebody like that I sometimes I wish
41:44 I could be in a lifeboat out on a
41:47 ocean with a person like that for few days
41:50 because I used to think that way, yeah.
41:52 I used to thing anyone you know I was grew
41:55 up surrounded by my mom that was in
41:57 Hollywood who does scoffed at religion and
42:00 I scoffed at anybody who believed in creation.
42:03 And I don't think these people have
42:05 considered the logical scientific analytical
42:12 reasonable evidence that what other
42:18 alternative do you have for an explanation of
42:21 what we have in the cosmos today,
42:23 than an intelligent God. When you really break
42:25 it down it is the intelligent thing.
42:29 And so, but I loved to be able to reason with
42:31 a person like that. And what the devil
42:34 has done is let's face it, there are people
42:36 that take the name of Christ, that really give
42:39 us a bad name, sure. And they love to
42:43 highlight and hold forth in grandstand
42:46 the bad examples of Christianity and the
42:48 hypocrites that are out there.
42:51 And so they don't hear the good, the
42:53 powerful evidence, but yeah there is an
42:56 inequity between giving fair time to.
43:00 This guy did entire documentary going to
43:03 different religions around the world to
43:07 mark all of them that if they believed in
43:09 God, and they did a documentary, I mean
43:12 it's just absolutely incredible, and but
43:15 that's okay to do, but you cant teach your
43:18 foster children or it's gonna be our own
43:20 children what the Bible says about
43:22 homosexuality for instance or murder or
43:25 for whatever you wanna talk about you know.
43:28 And so freedom of religion now is open
43:29 for reinterpretation like marriage,
43:31 reinterpretation of marriage, morality all
43:35 these things have a point where they
43:37 started to be singled out and attacked,
43:39 when we say many, many years ago but
43:42 not doing a plug here, but a series I am
43:43 gonna be doing coming up later in
43:45 March is about that this last day push on
43:49 dismembering and dismantling and
43:51 breaking down every institution of morality.
43:54 And so it's actually an orchestration that's
43:56 something that's done just sporadically but
43:57 it's an orchestration. And if you were the
44:00 enemy what would you wanna do,
44:01 when you know that we are committed to
44:02 preaching the gospel, I mean how many
44:04 Christian ministries are there?
44:06 Every one of them in some sense had some
44:09 Bible truth that's reaching some heart;
44:11 if you were the devil wouldn't you try to
44:12 counteract that? So, we are trying to
44:14 counteract the counterfeit is what
44:15 he is trying to do. Yeah he is trying to
44:18 advertise and promote it, yeah and amazing.
44:21 Yeah so we are seeing this incredible tension
44:26 where on one hand the new doors are
44:27 opening up for the gospel and yet in
44:29 places that use to be the bastions of truth.
44:34 You know England was part of that great
44:36 reformation Whitefield and Wesley and Wycliffe
44:40 and Tyndale and you think about all the
44:43 heroes of faith there, and this may just be
44:47 what they call an internet fact,
44:49 you know we read all kinds of things but
44:50 I think there is some truth to it that on any
44:52 given Sunday now there are more people
44:54 in mosques in Great Britain than they are
44:57 in the churches of England.
44:58 Really, wow that would be a surprise.
45:00 And the churches of England are being
45:01 sold as mosques or restaurants, or private
45:05 homes and because of such an apathy about God.
45:11 So you've seen a shift here in the western
45:13 world, but at the same time its like the wave
45:16 is kind of left North American in some
45:18 ways in other parts of the world there,
45:20 you are seeing a revival taking place.
45:24 So, I wanna be surfing where the wave is.
45:26 But, you know wave has a duel effect it
45:29 comes in but it also goes out, yeah.
45:31 So, the wave that's coming is knocking
45:32 over all the things that are right and pulling
45:34 the things that are right out in so to
45:36 speak drowning them in this pool of,
45:40 I would say pool of popularity or
45:42 meandering at the amazing mediocrity,
45:44 it's all been broken down orchestrated
45:47 strategically and so that's what the devil is
45:49 but the wonderful thing is we have the
45:51 promise the Lord says I've set before you an
45:54 open door which no man could shut.
45:57 And that's how was until the Lord closed
45:59 the door in Noah's day, so it's gonna stay
46:01 open for us to continue to preach the
46:02 gospel, praise the Lord for that.
46:04 Yeah I think that there is going to be
46:07 opportunity God is gonna keep doors
46:08 open as we near the end, but there is
46:12 gonna be resistance you know Jesus said
46:14 to work while at his day for the night is
46:17 coming when no man can work.
46:20 And there is code from spirit of
46:22 prophecy that says and I'm paraphrasing
46:24 here, what we fail to do right now in times
46:27 of great opportunity will be compelled to
46:29 do with great opposition and resistance.
46:32 And so you know right now we have
46:35 incredible opportunities to all around the world
46:38 and you know what's happening with
46:40 satellite television and the internet,
46:42 to me it's phenomenal that you can take
46:46 you know a gospel program and stream it on the
46:49 internet and it is accessible now
46:53 all over the world, yeah. You know just
46:56 before I came over here this evening for
46:58 this live program, bless your hearts,
47:01 our Sabbath school program was on, okay.
47:03 And people here to see as how did you
47:06 change so quickly, I said I wear different shirt.
47:10 But, every week we get song requests and
47:14 people in Kuwait and you know Australia
47:18 out in the outback folks who were living
47:21 up in the woods in Canada and it's just
47:23 amazing to us, there is really no corner of the
47:25 earth that we don't get requests from.
47:28 And people say we are being watching
47:30 Sabbath school can you sing this song?
47:33 And they may not ask any Bible question
47:34 but just the fact that many people and
47:37 those are the ones who speak English
47:39 you wonder how many others are only
47:40 getting bits and pieces of it, that's right yeah.
47:42 So, it's just its mind boggling the
47:44 opportunities right now. And we have to take
47:47 advantage of those God has given us
47:48 technology thanks to all of you to literally
47:51 reach world. Maybe you two guys ought to
47:53 do a tag team on a practicality of
47:55 prophecy because right now you think
47:57 about that because we hear all prophecies
48:00 and it just as it seems to be in the mind and
48:02 not people say but that's all sounds great,
48:05 2300 days whatever but how do I do
48:07 what's happening now, right.
48:09 People need to be able to take all of that and
48:12 say, oh this is where we are living now,
48:14 this is how I deal with this,
48:16 oh I shouldn't be discouraged.
48:18 Someone said to me today who has been a
48:20 minister for 40 years called me early this
48:23 morning, not a Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
48:26 but a Christian minister called me
48:28 and he said how do you deal with the fact
48:30 how unfair everything is in this world today,
48:33 I can't deal with it anymore.
48:35 Why does God allow such terrible things to
48:39 happen in this world? And he is discouraged
48:42 and wanted he give up, and I had to really
48:44 talk to him and I am telling I'm praying
48:45 with you hang in there don't be discouraged,
48:48 but you see it's when you know the truth
48:52 the truth will set you free, right.
48:53 So, I've shared with him what I believe the
48:56 Bible says about the Satan, he is the prince
48:59 of this world. But, it doesn't make any
49:01 difference the rain falls on the justice as
49:03 well as the unjust what makes the
49:05 difference as what do we gonna do with the
49:06 70 years we have now, and where
49:08 we're gonna spend eternity?
49:10 So, if everything was perfect in this world
49:14 who would need to save you?
49:15 We had always so depended on yourself
49:17 no we have to see the results of sin.
49:20 And what they are with the practicality
49:21 I was just thinking of you two guys here
49:23 doing maybe a tag thing on this of
49:27 religion, of prophecy and how do we deal
49:30 with day to day situation. I mean today it's
49:33 beautiful, you turn on and seeing in Doug
49:36 and you see all these countries going down.
49:38 If you don't prophecy what do you
49:40 think it does to you? You know it helps to
49:44 remember this story that the Bible gives us
49:48 that behind the veil the devil is using all
49:52 of his power to affect a smear campaign on
49:56 God, okay. And so when people call and
49:59 say if God is good, if God is love then why
50:02 does he allow all this, and how can he
50:05 and just understand and even prophecy,
50:08 and prophecies in Isaiah and Ezekiel
50:10 they talk about the fall of Lucifer.
50:12 We see those same things acted out in
50:13 people's life everyday, I mean it happens
50:15 with Hollywood stars where they just
50:17 become so full of themselves that they
50:21 self destruct, there you go.
50:22 And you know that what happen to
50:25 Lucifer, he basically went mad with self love.
50:28 And Jesus is trying to save us from that
50:30 disease is a pandemic of selfishness.
50:33 Isn't that interesting that people in
50:35 Hollywood they call him stars like third of
50:37 the stars of heaven fell, you now people
50:40 want to be called stars, I means that's
50:42 interesting, falling stars, yeah.
50:44 You look like you are finding a verse.
50:45 Well the person who talked about how
50:47 different things are, and you said the
50:48 practicality of prophecy, well one of the ways
50:51 we can apply that under practical way is
50:53 to let people know that God is not
50:55 responsible for the ill things of the world.
50:59 If on one hand as preaches we see every
51:00 good and every perfect gift comes
51:02 from God from the father of light in
51:04 which there is no variation, no shadow
51:06 of turning we have to also apply the
51:09 practicality of prophecy by saying
51:11 the devil has come down with great
51:12 wrath knowing he has but a short time.
51:15 He is turning the heat up like he did on the 3
51:17 Hebrew worthies, they were in Babylon
51:19 like we are spiritually today but, the furnace
51:22 is going to get heated up. And I always said to
51:24 people don't be surprise when the
51:25 furnace gets heated up. The real issue is at
51:28 that trying out what your response are
51:30 going to be, are you gonna stand up,
51:32 or you gonna be concerned about the flames.
51:34 If you are concerned about the flames,
51:36 you gonna end up bowing down.
51:38 If you are not concerned about the
51:39 flames but your allusions is to God,
51:41 you will forth go even your life to show the
51:44 rest of the world, that you cannot be brought.
51:46 And so I think that these trials Doug and
51:48 Danny are really helping us see where
51:51 we are in our walk with God, not so
51:53 much giving us the strengths,
51:56 but showing us how weakly we really are,
51:58 when we react in a negative way like
52:00 saying I can't handle it any longer.
52:03 One of my favorite stories in the Bible is
52:05 after Jesus was crucified and he rose
52:08 its in the Luke chapter 24 starts with verse
52:11 13, it's called road to a Emmaus, and these
52:14 two disciples are so discouraged and they
52:16 are so bewildered and they are thinking why
52:18 did God allow Jesus to die. We thought he was
52:22 the Messiah, why did he, and they were just
52:25 so mystified and so sad and here Jesus is
52:30 walking right beside them, and they don't know it.
52:33 And you know it says he open their
52:35 understanding that they could
52:37 comprehend the scriptures.
52:39 As you walk down the road he basically
52:41 needed to teach them to apply the
52:44 prophecies, and by the time they got to a
52:47 Emmaus they were going from Jerusalem
52:49 to Emmaus which is you know 7 miles
52:51 maybe 2 hour sermon, I will love to have a
52:53 CD of that sermon. And during that time
52:57 it says their hearts were burning within
52:58 them as he opened their understanding
53:01 and he said oh fools and slow of heart to
53:04 believe all the prophets have spoken
53:06 not the Christ who have suffered these
53:08 things and entered into his glory and
53:10 beginning with Moses and all the prophets
53:12 he expounded on them and all the
53:13 scriptures the things concerning himself.
53:17 All the scriptures are telling us about Jesus,
53:19 and I believe all the prophecies are really
53:21 redemptive in nature. A lot of people and
53:24 I probably fall into this temptation before.
53:27 We like to talk about prophecy as they were
53:29 prognosticating, one of a guy now seta
53:31 date, a few people are setting dates for the
53:34 second coming of Jesus. That's what I heard,
53:35 that's what I heard tell us about it.
53:38 Well hopefully I'm not, I don't want to
53:40 get any one stirred up by this but,
53:43 oh go ahead. I wanna say people, well if it's
53:46 a fact, if it's fact, it's amazing fact, let us
53:49 know about it. You know for years family
53:51 radio has been around they been around 40
53:53 or 50 years I'm not sure and they got
53:56 some great programs, they have got some
53:58 good Christian music but the founder has
54:02 become in my opinion little eccentric and he
54:05 has set a couple of dates for Christ coming.
54:07 Now of course the first date he has said,
54:09 I think it was 94 came and went, yeah, and
54:12 he recalculated and he has got people stirred
54:15 up now that he is telling them that Jesus
54:16 is coming back, I think it's May 21st or
54:19 22nd of this year, I know this year,
54:21 I don't remember it's 21st, not too far from now.
54:25 And I was just at this NRB which is you
54:27 know religious broadcasters from
54:29 around the country and, there were
54:30 people there Judgment Day May 21st and
54:32 they are handing out their little flyers
54:34 telling everyone get ready for the end of
54:35 the world, really. And it saddens me to think
54:40 that so many people are gonna be
54:43 discouraged by that and we were talking
54:47 I think over lunch today and I said you
54:51 know Amazing Facts has been really
54:52 tempted to buy a full page ad in the
54:54 Oakland Paper, and offered family radio,
54:58 $100,000 to use anyway they want
55:00 with the condition that on the 30th of
55:04 May if they are still there, they sign over
55:07 the network to Amazing Facts, and if.
55:11 Because they have no use for, if Jesus
55:12 comes in we put the money in the right
55:14 place, okay. If Jesus doesn't come then
55:16 they probably shouldn't have a network, yeah
55:18 okay, you know everyone all stirred up
55:20 and misguided like that, that's right.
55:23 But that won't be the first time you know
55:24 Christ said there will be false Christs and
55:26 false prophets and, but I just, hate people
55:29 getting there, that's not the purpose of
55:31 prophecy. Jesus said no man knows the day
55:33 and the hour, that's right. And if there is
55:36 anything Christ was clear about He said,
55:38 be ready. He said in such an hours you
55:41 think not the son of man is coming, yeah.
55:43 So for people who just get stirred up with
55:45 these little surges because someone's
55:47 come along with some other end time
55:49 scenario, I don't know you guys probably get
55:53 some of, you are on some of these email
55:55 lists, and I bet you both have some
55:57 friends that there was any new conspiracy
55:59 or crisis, well sure, yeah, they say have
56:01 you heard, sure, oh yeah, is like they live
56:03 from one sensational, spicy headline to the next,
56:08 and we really need a consistent faith.
56:09 The Prophecy is so important because it
56:11 gives us hope, because you wanna
56:14 know what's gonna happen, not every
56:15 detail but you wanna know this is all part of
56:18 God's plan. I was in Florida a couple of
56:20 weeks ago; two to three weeks ago,
56:22 we were there for a couple of weeks,
56:23 doing live programs. But I met a young
56:26 lady, who I knew, and the week before got
56:30 discouraged and felt like there is no hope
56:32 for her in this world. She took a gun and
56:35 put it in her mouth and pulled the trigger
56:38 and the bullet is lodged to bottom of
56:40 her brain there, she showed me she
56:43 opened her mouth, kind of hit her tongue
56:46 too and you would see the hole in the back of
56:48 her throat. She is still alive, she lived
56:50 through it. But I encouraged her hey
56:53 God has a plan for you, you know don't
56:55 get that discourage you, got to so,
56:57 you know, and I pray for her now everyday
56:59 because people living with that hope but
57:01 that's what prophecy does, some people
57:03 like oh that's what do we care. No.
57:05 Prophecy let you know Got ultimately
57:08 is in-charge, that's right, greater is he
57:09 that is in us than he that is in the world.
57:12 And so that's what wonderful and
57:14 I appreciate both of you guys that you are
57:16 willing to stand up and give truth to the
57:18 lost and dying world. And I appreciate all of
57:20 you who support this network, support
57:23 Amazing Facts as we endeavored to take
57:26 this gospel into all the world, so thank you
57:29 for what you do. We are gonna have to take
57:30 a short break in just a moment.
57:32 You wanna call in for the free offer, also if
57:34 you have questions or comments for pastor
57:37 Doug and John just call us, but we will be
57:38 back we are gonna take short break,
57:40 we will back in just a moment.


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