Hello and welcome to 3ABN Live.
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Thank you for
joining us as you do each
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and everyday, and we
especially love doing
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this live program,
don't we Pastor John?
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Oh we sure do especially when
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we have really good guest.
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Well we do and
tonight we have such
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one, and do you this
fellow that we have tonight?
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Yeah he looks
familiar I think have
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seen him in the
past before, my good
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friend Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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Hi Doug it's good to
have you here tonight.
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Good to be here Danny.
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And coming all the
way from California.
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More directly from
Nashville, but yes,
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oh okay via
California. Yeah, we hear you
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have some meetings
in Nashville and so
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you just drove on up, yup.
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Alright, we're
glad that you are here,
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and it's always a
treat and pleasure to have
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you and Doug for
people John that literally,
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how many years you been
on in 3ABN approximately?
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Well it must have been 17 years,
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because it was
just before Steven
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was born and he is 17 now.
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Yeah, I know this
from getting a little
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bit of handle on
things, I really when
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it comes to
people writing letters or
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saying we came to the
truth, and came to the
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Lord you know through 3ABN,
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a good percentage
at that time, your name
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is mentioned
among some of the other
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fellows too, but
almost always we hear,
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thanks to Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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So, Doug you have,
God has blessed you,
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you are tremendous communicator,
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and God has given
you a gift for that,
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and of course your
love for Jesus comes
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out and you are
person, I said to someone the
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other day I said,
if I ever really got in
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trouble and I had
to be somewhere before
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anybody and I had
to explain you know
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myself I said I want
to take Doug with me.
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So, I take Doug
Batchelor maybe he
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could get me out if
I am in a jam, oh yeah,
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because he knows how to do it.
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I will make it
worse. No, you know Bob,
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Bobby Davis said
if he had a nickel for
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every time somebody
said you know Pastor
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Doug, Pastor Doug
he said he will be rich
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man right now,
yeah because of all the
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people that watch
and listen and take Bible
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questions at all,
yeah. Oh yeah, we had fun
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throughout the
years doing that together.
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But, we are here
and we are not trying to
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lift up Doug
Batchelor, but we are trying to
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lift up the
Jesus say amen, amen.
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God has people
on the frontlines;
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we want you to
pray for Pastor Doug.
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I can't see all
the hands at home but
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I would love to say
how many of you will
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pray for Pastor
Doug and Amazing Facts.
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He is President
of Amazing Facts,
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and Amazing Facts as
you have been there a
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number of years,
but it's been existence
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since how many? 45
years now, 25 years,
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45, 45 years yeah
and. I've been there 16,
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16 you have been that
long, boy that's amazing.
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And anyway we are
glad that you are here
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tonight and thank
you at home for those of
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you joining us as
we said already that
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thank you for your
love and your prayers
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and financial
support of 3ABN as when we
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will be able to
take this gospel of
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kingdom into all
the world, it's been 20
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over 26 years
actually going on 27 Doug,
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when the Lord impressed
me to build a television
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station to reach the world.
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And thanks to
people like yourself and
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Pastor Lomacang
and Pastor C.A. Murray
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and the list goes
on, that the undiluted
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Three Angels messages
is continuing to get to
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the lost and dying world, amen.
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There are many
ways we can do it, many,
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many ways that we
can get the gospel to
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the world and one of
those is through music.
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And John we have a
special guest tonight
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do you know the
young lady that singing?
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Oh yes, we have a wonderful song
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Melody Firestone,
she is gonna be singing
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one of her newer song
from her new CD, okay.
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A song that I love very much
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is entitled "Change Me Now".
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You were denied, then crucified
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Yet You prayed to Your father
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To forgive us
We caused you pain,
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time and again Still
You laid down Your life
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Because You loved
us I was guilty then,
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here I am again Against You only
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have I sinned So change me now
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Never let my heart grow cold
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Change me somehow
Purify this needy soul
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Look into my heart
Tell me what You see
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Cleanse me when You
find Any wicked ways in me
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With Your tender
touch Lord, I need you
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so much To change me now
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The seeds I've
sown, the deeds I've done
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By the power of Your
blood Please remove them
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Restore my joy, I need you, Lord
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I need more of Your
love So You can use me
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Will You search my
heart? With Your holy light
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Take every wrong and
make it right Lord hear my cry
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Please change me Never
let this heart grow cold
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Change me somehow
Purify this needy soul
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Will You look into my heart
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Tell me what You
see Cleanse me when
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You find Any wicked way in me
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This very hour
Fill me with Your power
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I want to be so
close to You Jesus
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Nothing stands between
us With Your tender touch
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Lord, I need You so much
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To change me now
Lord change me now
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Thank you Melody
that's still my baby
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girl you know.
Wonderful song too.
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Well it is and
she does a great job,
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she is like Doug has a
gift for communication.
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She used to talk very
little and I don't know
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now she is kind
of coming out of her
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shell I said she
may end up hosting some
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programs here Doug who know.
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I told her that she
laugh, but I said hey
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you are starting to
talk some and you got a
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lot to say and I
appreciate Melody
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and Greg and all the grand kids,
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I mean they are just
wonderful and it's great.
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Once again it's
good to have Pastor Doug
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Batchelor here
with Amazing Facts.
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Doug give us a
little bit of background
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what's happen in Amazing Facts,
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and I'm sure we
have got some topic that
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we really wanna
talk about tonight.
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But, we wanna
let people know as we
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are going a little
further now, getting
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into this if you
have questions and
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comments things
come up we want you
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to start calling
in, because the second
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hour we intent to
take some of our questions.
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And if you have
any questions about the
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Bible you got Pastor
Doug and Pastor John here,
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so I'm sure that would
be a great place to start.
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But, John we have
free offer tonight too.
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Oh yes we do, it's
a little book by Joe
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Crews actually it's
Joe Crews is the one who
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started Amazing
Facts I understand and it's
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entitled "Is It Easier
to Be Lost or to Be Saved".
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And this is our
free offer tonight if you
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like to get a copy of
that, you can email us
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at
freeoffer@3abn.org or call us at
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618-627-4651 for your free copy.
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That's really good
question, is it easier to
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be saved or to be
lost? A lot of times people
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think it's easy to
be lost, but this book
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really opens your eyes about
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which one is really
easier. And so you wanna
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copy of this book
tonight. Good alright, Pastor
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Doug update us
little bit what's happening
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in your life, in our ministry?
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Well we're really
excited about of course all
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these different
aspects of evangelism
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that are
available. We are so close
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I think to the Lord is coming,
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you know you just
look what's happening
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to the world. Praise the Lord.
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And in
particular everyone knows in
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the news recently
we've seen enormous
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transition in the
Middle East and I've
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been studying,
John and I were eating
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together last night
and I was picking his
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brain little bit for
his ideas about Islam in
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prophecy, because
we've seen tremendous
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transition in you
know Libya, Egypt,
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Tunisia, I've been
to Egypt and Tunisia not
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been to Libya yet,
and just through the whole
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region Bahrain and
it's been real interest
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to us because Amazing
Facts has been we've been
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we've been
translating some materials into
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some of the Islamic languages,
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Farsi and Arabic
and we are planning some
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meetings now in
this year, I'm going in
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August to Dubai to
do little revival series
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among the Christians
there. We got to be very
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careful about public
evangelism, that's true
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in this Islamic
countries. They have laws were
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it's you know forbidden
to proselytize, but you
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can minister to
people of the existing faith
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and then from there
09/11 which is gonna
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be the 10 year
anniversary of 09/11
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it's 2011, we'll be
preaching the gospel
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in Jakarta which
is the most populous
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Islamic country in the world.
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And so we were
excited about that,
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we listen
everybody's prayers and you know
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I think it's
interesting and I'm just gonna
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I will share this as
just sort of background
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information with all
that's happening in the
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Middle East and I
was talking to John last
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night saying you know I'm not
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claiming I know what
all these answers are,
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but I think it's
just worthy of mention in
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Daniel chapter
12 just before the
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end of the world.
And it says in verse 1,
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At that time
Michael will stand up,
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the great prince who
stands for the sons of
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your people; And
there will be a time of
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trouble, such as
never was since there was a
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nation even on
to that same time.
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And then it goes
on and it talks about
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many of those who
sleep in the dust of
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the earth awake
the resurrection,
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just before
Michael stands up probation
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closes, the end
of the world, time of
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trouble,
resurrection. It's specifically
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mentions in verse
43 Egypt and Libya
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along with four
other Islamic countries.
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And you see everything that's
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happening in the
world today with the
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I mean the economies
of the world right now
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are just teetering
on a very volatile edge,
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oil which still
drives the economy of the
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world in many
ways powers things.
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You know it's so
dependent on that
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region and these international
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relationships
and problems with the
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commodities of the
world and the value,
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you know over spending in the
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country and it
just it feels like,
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I know that's not a
very good theological
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way to put it, but
it just feels like,
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it's never felt
before. That's good isn't it?
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Yeah I tell you what
it hit me when I started
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listening in the
last couple of months and
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seeing all the
up risings I said.
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This is not a
coincidence, divine providence.
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Something has to
change in order for
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the gospel to get there.
These people are standing
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up and trying to
get rid of some of the
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leadership
saying we want freedom,
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we want and with
freedom like what
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happen to Russia
you know what happen
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and all of us
know what happened as
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soon as the Government failed,
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all of a sudden
they welcome this,
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even though they
didn't agree many of
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the people but,
they wanted to say,
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we wanna participate in freedom,
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so you can come in,
you can preach things
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it's never happen, so
I think this has got or
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dangerous like
the wall you know it's
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Berlin the wall is coming down,
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the iron curtain coming down.
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And I think this is
an opening God is gonna
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use this mightily and
we all need to be right
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there as it
happens, and be some of the
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first ones in, so
thank you for what you are
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doing and we wanna
support what you are doing.
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Well we're
really excited you know
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people see
what's happening in the
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Middle East and it's
very volatile and folks
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are free that you
know will this trigger some
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kind of war with
Israel and Iran and
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what's gonna happen
in, I think the Lord is
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using the way you
just mention that it
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shocked everybody
how all of the sudden
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this whole nation
with 11 time zone was
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open to the gospel.
And Karen and I were,
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this was before
Steven was even born
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we were one of the
first teams that went
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in back then and did
meetings in Stavropol,
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and something has to
happen in China, right.
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So, you know the
Bible says the gospel
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will be preached in
all the world for witness
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to the nations
and then the end will
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come Matthew
24:14. And 3ABN now you
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know you are sowing
seed all over the world.
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I still think
that something needs to
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happen on the
ground where you can get
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boots on the ground,
yes sure, so to speak.
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And that's where
you know the word they
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got the aerial
assault and they get boots on
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the ground at some point, sure.
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And so 3ABN is
doing like the air
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force does before,
we are softening up and
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preparing in many
of these countries.
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And but I think the
things are changing in
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China right
now, and we have some
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missionaries over
there. We have a Chinese
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website Amazing
Facts. The cosmic conflicts
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just been
translated into Chinese,
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into Mandarin and
some copies made it
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over, and it's
been mass produce,
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I'm sure it's in
the black-market and
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people are
selling it, but one of our
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workers over
there who I'll only call
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Mr. Who, I don't
want to say what his name
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right now, so we
call Mr. and Miss Who,
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that's good. You
couldn't brethren their
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name or they are
out. Remember there is a
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dignitary that came,
it was from China when
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they say well who is
in the Whitehouse and
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it's exactly well
who is there he is.
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That was his name that's right.
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Well we just this is
sort of an affection in
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term for a couple
that we have over there,
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but they said they don't know a
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Christian from any
denomination that has
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not now seen the final
events in Chinese, wow.
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They think
that's gonna happen with
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the cosmic conflict,
so there is a tremendous
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work, and we are
one of many ministries
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yeah is working
in China right now,
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it's a lot of
people, and so we're very
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excited about that.
We are excited about
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working with the
world church in this
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emphasis this year
especially on revival, yes.
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I feel that need
in my life and I think
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everybody
resonates with that, right.
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And something else
we've been talking to
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3ABN about, I
don't know if it's to
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premature mention
this just yet but,
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oh I would. It
seems like as you go from
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church to church
there are more people on
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the books that are
actually missing or
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inactive
members. We have some in
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Sacramento Central
too. And there is all these
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phantom members out
there that either got
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discouraged, or
they have problems with
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doctrine, or
somebody hurt their feelings,
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and they are
disaffected or offended somehow.
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And so we've been
talking about what
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can we do to reclaim
these missing members?
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And so usually once
a year Amazing Facts
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and 3ABN get together and we do
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kids meeting or
the teen meeting we did
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this last year,
right. And so we are looking
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this fall of doing a
special series that will
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emphasize how do
we reclaim people?
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That maybe we were
raised in the message,
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they went to our
schools, or they went
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to church they
were baptized, but
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something happen
and either they have
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problems
doctrinally or somebody offended
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them, or they
became discourage or
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distracted by the
things of the world.
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And so we've been
talking about developing a
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special series this
fall to reclaim missing
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members, that
might be kids who have
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been raised in the
faith or people who
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were members but
for one of these usually
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three reasons they
become discouraged.
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You know we have
lot of, lot of people
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who are
discourage nowadays because
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they are loosing
jobs, and they are loosing
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their homes, they are
loosing the things that
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seem to have been
the most constant thing.
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If you got at home
people will say will
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I be here for the rest
of my life, well that's
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not the case any longer.
If I get a job it's gonna
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be secure for the
rest of my life because
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this way I'm comfortable
that's not the case in
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some people, when
they loose the things
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that they trust in
the most, the first thing
00:19:14.87\00:19:17.14
that suffers is
their spiritual walk.
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So, they stay home
and create what I refer
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to as their own
pity party or sometimes
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not a pity party
but they just get so
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discourage because
they loose trust and hope.
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Well Doug the
reason I think its such an
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incredible, the timing
of this is so perfect is
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because it may come
a shock to some of us,
00:19:33.88\00:19:35.98
but the way we
are gonna get him back
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is love him back.
And most of the people
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that I talk to and
you guys are pastors,
00:19:40.68\00:19:42.44
but when I travel and
people talk to me their
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son left the
church, their daughter,
00:19:45.17\00:19:46.73
their grand
children, it was not over the
00:19:47.08\00:19:48.98
doctrines, it's
usually over their feelings
00:19:48.99\00:19:51.79
been hurt, someone
didn't treat them right
00:19:51.80\00:19:54.22
in a loving
church, and they expect
00:19:54.84\00:19:56.73
everybody to be
saints. Now I don't know
00:19:56.74\00:19:58.37
why we do that
because none of us
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are saints but we
expect people to treat
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us, so there is
awful lot and usually there
00:20:02.42\00:20:05.87
is, when it's comes
to I've notice in our
00:20:05.88\00:20:07.94
church when people
leave, they rarely just
00:20:07.95\00:20:10.08
stared attending other
church they just kind a,
00:20:10.09\00:20:12.59
kind a, kind of
quite going to church.
00:20:13.31\00:20:14.82
But, some of these
folk will still pay tithe
00:20:15.24\00:20:17.17
I know some right
now, that send some
00:20:17.18\00:20:18.67
tithe already here
that's not attending
00:20:18.68\00:20:21.09
church but send
some tithe answers,
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we don't go to
church anymore but you
00:20:23.20\00:20:25.22
know but these
folk all just need love,
00:20:25.23\00:20:27.41
And we can
decide that that's what
00:20:28.74\00:20:30.72
it's all about,
loving people right where
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they are. You know
I know that you can
00:20:32.94\00:20:35.30
wrap everything
that you do is wrapped in
00:20:35.31\00:20:37.35
love and of course God is love,
00:20:37.36\00:20:39.21
so it's wrapped in
Jesus. I think it's a tremendous
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idea and I think you should have
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tremendous
success because if nothing
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else it gets each of
us understanding maybe
00:20:45.81\00:20:48.70
we have to point
some fingers at our self
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John, that's
right. Why some of these
00:20:51.26\00:20:52.61
folks are out there,
we can't just say well
00:20:52.62\00:20:54.50
they whatever, look
at our self, look at our
00:20:54.51\00:20:57.05
church, why do we
here for, what do we
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do to love people and
to keep them in the church.
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You know I don't
think there is any easy
00:21:03.37\00:21:05.17
answer and you
know I'm for one not
00:21:05.18\00:21:08.06
pretending that we
are gonna have a meeting
00:21:08.07\00:21:10.69
that's gonna
bring everybody back,
00:21:10.70\00:21:12.01
or is that one thing will do it.
00:21:12.68\00:21:14.57
But, I try to ask
myself if I was on an
00:21:15.29\00:21:17.18
aeroplane for two hours or so.
00:21:17.19\00:21:19.49
And I'm sitting
next to somebody and
00:21:20.24\00:21:21.85
talking to them I find
out I was raise in the church.
00:21:21.86\00:21:25.17
And I found out
that they either got
00:21:26.99\00:21:29.21
discouraged with
somebody offending
00:21:29.22\00:21:31.43
them, or they got
distracted by the cares
00:21:31.44\00:21:33.97
of life, or there
was a problem with
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doctrine, what
would I say to them?
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And if we could
develop a program,
00:21:41.07\00:21:42.35
and I've really
been praying about this,
00:21:42.36\00:21:43.70
I thought about
this for years, but if we
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could develop a program where we
00:21:45.27\00:21:47.19
could give
members a DVD you know
00:21:47.20\00:21:50.24
broadcast it for
them to have material
00:21:50.25\00:21:53.18
where they could go
to somebody and give
00:21:53.67\00:21:56.80
them something and
say you know I know
00:21:56.81\00:21:58.18
that use to be a part
of our church, I like you
00:21:58.19\00:21:59.74
to just take a look at this.
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And a presentation
that might help be the
00:22:01.65\00:22:04.07
catalyst for
having them come and visit
00:22:04.08\00:22:07.11
the church for a
special friendship Sabbath.
00:22:07.12\00:22:09.07
You know folks come
to me all the time and
00:22:09.93\00:22:11.80
and I know do you
and they say I've got
00:22:12.26\00:22:13.66
this love one, what
can I do to reach them?
00:22:13.67\00:22:16.36
And I actually learn
this from C.D. Brooks
00:22:17.13\00:22:19.10
and I've never
found the better answer,
00:22:19.66\00:22:21.08
but is really
there is three things,
00:22:21.09\00:22:22.74
there is only three
things you can't really
00:22:22.75\00:22:24.94
add to it or diminish
from it, there are three
00:22:24.95\00:22:26.73
things you can do to
reach people that you
00:22:27.06\00:22:29.42
wanna reach. One
is be a good example,
00:22:29.43\00:22:33.14
love them. Pray for
them, and that's often
00:22:33.15\00:22:38.78
mention as a sort
of dismissive way off
00:22:38.79\00:22:41.47
you can pray as
though that's nothing
00:22:41.73\00:22:43.07
but it's very
powerful. And so we like to
00:22:43.08\00:22:45.79
develop like a
prayer reminder card and
00:22:45.80\00:22:48.07
have people put down
the name of the one or
00:22:48.08\00:22:50.43
ones who are trying
to reach and really focus
00:22:50.44\00:22:52.23
prayers on that
person. And the other thing is
00:22:52.24\00:22:55.08
share information
if they are willing.
00:22:55.09\00:22:57.20
Now you can't force
information on people
00:22:57.21\00:22:58.95
that say, don't preach to me.
00:22:58.96\00:23:00.08
But, if they are
open you can give him a
00:23:00.59\00:23:02.47
book, you can give him
a CD or DVD or something.
00:23:02.48\00:23:05.04
And if you do all
those things together
00:23:05.90\00:23:08.46
you certainly
increase the odds that you
00:23:09.13\00:23:11.47
gonna bring some
of these people back.
00:23:11.48\00:23:12.91
And I've just
really been praying because
00:23:14.23\00:23:16.45
everywhere I go,
it seems like we are
00:23:17.79\00:23:20.01
hearing about
churches and I'll say how many
00:23:20.02\00:23:22.39
members do you
have? And they will say,
00:23:22.40\00:23:23.53
what do you want
to know what's on the
00:23:23.54\00:23:24.59
book or how many
come, right, right.
00:23:24.60\00:23:26.03
In some cases you
will have an example
00:23:26.64\00:23:29.76
25 people attend
a 125 on the books,
00:23:29.77\00:23:33.37
have mercy. And you
now this folks all over
00:23:33.38\00:23:36.61
that knew the
message and for one
00:23:36.62\00:23:40.13
of this three reasons
they don't attend anymore.
00:23:40.14\00:23:42.65
That's true, a
lot of churches are
00:23:43.60\00:23:44.84
identified by their
capacity rather than
00:23:44.85\00:23:47.64
their attending membership.
00:23:47.65\00:23:48.85
They say hey come
to my church we hold
00:23:49.39\00:23:50.67
400, they will say
how many show up, well.
00:23:50.68\00:23:53.92
Yeah you mention on an
aeroplane you are sitting,
00:23:54.65\00:23:57.32
I was going out
west sometime ago,
00:23:58.14\00:24:00.30
and I had to go
away, I went to Denver,
00:24:01.05\00:24:03.92
the flight I
shouldn't say the name because
00:24:04.42\00:24:07.10
they are all late
but it's an airlines that
00:24:07.11\00:24:09.06
was late and for
their own connection.
00:24:09.07\00:24:11.28
So, I had to go
totally all they way.
00:24:11.64\00:24:13.76
I mean I was trying
to get out to the west
00:24:13.95\00:24:16.17
upper west like Washington,
and ended up going to
00:24:16.18\00:24:19.05
California, and then
making a couple of stops,
00:24:19.06\00:24:21.15
it took me I could have
to Russia about as quick.
00:24:21.16\00:24:24.53
And it was when so I
was frustrated but the
00:24:25.32\00:24:27.26
last flight was a
small plane, and smaller
00:24:27.27\00:24:31.02
plane I think it had
18 rows or something,
00:24:31.03\00:24:33.10
and because of the
switching I was on the
00:24:33.68\00:24:35.78
last row in the last
seat, and I said this is
00:24:35.79\00:24:40.15
the way my day has
been going and there
00:24:40.16\00:24:41.40
was a guy
sitting across from me.
00:24:41.41\00:24:42.97
And we know we also got
to the back of the plane,
00:24:43.43\00:24:47.11
yeah that's right
its a small plane,
00:24:47.12\00:24:49.28
and there was a guy
sitting across from me
00:24:49.63\00:24:51.15
that he had when
he was asked for drink
00:24:51.56\00:24:53.56
he had ordered
beer and he was sitting
00:24:53.57\00:24:55.40
there, so he was, we
were up there talking,
00:24:55.41\00:24:57.20
and when they got
back to the snacks
00:24:57.21\00:24:59.22
with my hand up
the lady said I'm sorry
00:24:59.66\00:25:02.64
I just ran out, we
don't really have any
00:25:02.65\00:25:04.98
snacks left like to
you know the crackers or
00:25:04.99\00:25:07.31
pretzels whatever they give you.
00:25:07.89\00:25:09.05
So, I just start
laughing, and I said
00:25:09.42\00:25:11.23
that's alright
that's because this whole
00:25:11.24\00:25:12.75
day has been that
way, but at least we
00:25:12.76\00:25:15.01
are in the air, so
the guy when she left he
00:25:15.02\00:25:17.30
said, well he said I
have to say you are in
00:25:17.31\00:25:19.42
pretty good mood he
said, that here all the
00:25:19.43\00:25:21.32
places you have
been. And I said well you
00:25:21.33\00:25:24.27
know what
everything I said I believe
00:25:24.28\00:25:26.65
happens by divine providence.
00:25:26.66\00:25:27.94
So, I'm fine we are
still alive we are doing good.
00:25:27.95\00:25:30.49
So, I said I believe
my life is in Lords hands
00:25:30.90\00:25:33.14
and I'm okay with
it, and he said you know
00:25:33.15\00:25:34.78
I've been watching
you for while and he
00:25:35.52\00:25:38.85
said I we were talking
earlier he said I didn't
00:25:38.86\00:25:41.00
want tell you this
but I'm a member of same
00:25:41.01\00:25:45.25
church you are
Adventist, but I haven't been to
00:25:45.26\00:25:48.28
church in several years, wow.
00:25:48.29\00:25:50.06
And he said I'm
headed out to the
00:25:50.07\00:25:51.51
same town where you
work is my folk city,
00:25:51.52\00:25:53.81
my folks live out
there. And he said I've been,
00:25:54.23\00:25:56.27
I think he said 6, 8
years. And he said when I go
00:25:56.28\00:25:59.96
every time I go to my
folk's house they wanna
00:25:59.97\00:26:02.88
on every TV in
the house to 3ABN,
00:26:02.89\00:26:05.24
hoping that I will see
it. And so he said I knew
00:26:05.25\00:26:08.65
who you were, I
just didn't say anything,
00:26:08.66\00:26:10.90
but he says you what
he said I'm glad I got
00:26:10.91\00:26:13.94
to meet you and so we
talked a bit and I said
00:26:13.95\00:26:15.88
well tell what you
are gonna tomorrow,
00:26:15.89\00:26:17.07
he said well I'm going rafting.
00:26:17.08\00:26:18.20
I said I want you
to come to church.
00:26:18.21\00:26:20.03
He said all the
roof would fall in,
00:26:20.45\00:26:21.75
I said no, I said
why don't you come,
00:26:21.76\00:26:23.21
oh people you know
they don't want to see
00:26:23.22\00:26:25.24
me, I said no they
love you I can tell you
00:26:25.25\00:26:27.13
already they love
you there is people want
00:26:27.14\00:26:29.29
you be there. You know what next
00:26:29.30\00:26:30.99
morning 11'o
clock service hour big
00:26:31.00\00:26:33.13
church he walked in
the back and sit down.
00:26:33.14\00:26:35.55
And so that was his
start of coming back
00:26:36.06\00:26:38.51
he said I know I
should have done this
00:26:38.52\00:26:40.51
long time I got my
feelings hurt, I been
00:26:40.52\00:26:42.98
offended and now the
more I put it off the
00:26:42.99\00:26:45.89
harder it is to come
back to church but he came.
00:26:45.90\00:26:48.45
And all those
delays you had were God's
00:26:49.76\00:26:52.10
way of making that appointment.
00:26:52.11\00:26:53.41
Yeah, it was divine providence.
00:26:53.42\00:26:55.06
It's amazing how that happens.
00:26:55.07\00:26:56.26
You know never
know the reason for
00:26:57.00\00:26:58.25
all that until you
finally get to the end
00:26:58.26\00:27:00.35
of the road and say,
yeah. Well this is why the
00:27:00.36\00:27:02.50
Lord had me switching,
it's kind of like checkers
00:27:02.51\00:27:04.91
do you both are they
are not by your design
00:27:05.72\00:27:08.79
but by God's
design. He has been moving
00:27:08.80\00:27:10.44
you into
position to meet somebody,
00:27:10.45\00:27:12.14
he want to use
me. Two days ago I was
00:27:12.15\00:27:13.77
on a flight and I
sit across to me was
00:27:13.78\00:27:16.52
Hulk Hogan and his
wife. So, I didn't get much
00:27:16.53\00:27:19.78
chance to talk but
when I left he is about
00:27:19.79\00:27:21.72
this big and his
arms are bigger my legs
00:27:21.73\00:27:23.62
and I said. I just
want let you know lucky
00:27:23.63\00:27:26.26
for you I'm not in a
wrestling mood today.
00:27:26.27\00:27:28.23
So, I'm just gonna let
you off easy I told him.
00:27:28.24\00:27:30.50
So, they he thank me
and his wife both said
00:27:30.94\00:27:32.80
well thanks we appreciate you,
00:27:32.81\00:27:34.01
you know not to
work me over, so but no
00:27:34.54\00:27:37.58
you don't know
who you are gonna meet
00:27:37.59\00:27:38.62
but it's great point
and there are people all
00:27:38.63\00:27:41.52
around that need
to know that they are
00:27:41.53\00:27:43.90
loved, and most of
all Jesus loves them.
00:27:43.91\00:27:45.59
So, Doug we wanna
be a part of this,
00:27:45.60\00:27:47.87
I know Jim wants
to be a part of this,
00:27:47.88\00:27:49.33
all of us here
at 3ABN and whatever
00:27:49.34\00:27:52.08
we can do to
help in our audience,
00:27:52.09\00:27:54.53
let's get them above right.
00:27:54.95\00:27:56.13
And the main thing
is prayer, you know this
00:27:56.32\00:27:58.98
whole year we were
praying about revival
00:27:58.99\00:28:01.06
in our lives,
but I think the most
00:28:01.07\00:28:03.24
important reason for
revival is that we can
00:28:03.25\00:28:05.64
be better
witnesses. And you know one of
00:28:05.65\00:28:08.25
the first things
that Jesus wanted to do,
00:28:08.26\00:28:10.45
is to go to the lost
sheep of the house of Israel.
00:28:11.05\00:28:13.18
And so the first
area of evangelism for us
00:28:13.25\00:28:15.90
as we are engaged in
revival is our families,
00:28:16.37\00:28:19.38
and the people that
we are once our brethren
00:28:20.14\00:28:21.90
that have become discourage.
00:28:22.15\00:28:23.12
We should start
with those lost sheep and
00:28:23.13\00:28:26.81
they already know
the fundamentals and for
00:28:26.82\00:28:28.84
whatever reason
they have got distracted,
00:28:28.85\00:28:31.45
and we need to pray for them.
00:28:32.21\00:28:33.91
I would like to
encourage everybody
00:28:34.61\00:28:35.89
to be praying about
this project because
00:28:35.90\00:28:38.40
it's so very dynamic right now.
00:28:38.41\00:28:39.92
We've been looking
about the best date
00:28:39.93\00:28:41.84
and location and
you know it will be easy
00:28:41.85\00:28:45.03
for us to put it off,
but we are so close to the
00:28:45.04\00:28:47.41
end, we are trying
to move it up, right,
00:28:47.42\00:28:48.64
and get it done and we
just really need prayer.
00:28:48.65\00:28:52.21
Reach a program to reach missing
00:28:53.13\00:28:55.86
members, yeah. You
know a missing member.
00:28:56.31\00:28:58.06
Sure, and we can
get all the churches
00:28:58.39\00:28:59.88
involved to let
people know when the
00:28:59.89\00:29:01.35
meetings are
coming, we want you at home
00:29:01.36\00:29:03.62
to because you all
I'm sure every church
00:29:03.63\00:29:05.73
there are
certain members and maybe
00:29:05.74\00:29:07.48
make special
contact with these, and let
00:29:07.49\00:29:09.97
them know that you
know if they don't get
00:29:09.98\00:29:12.15
us at home, they
can come to the church
00:29:12.16\00:29:13.69
and watch it, you
know this is great,
00:29:13.70\00:29:16.60
I think it's
wonderful. And you also have to
00:29:16.61\00:29:18.78
pray for wisdom
on that, because you
00:29:18.79\00:29:20.20
know in the Bible
there are number of
00:29:20.21\00:29:21.71
people when the
Lord gave the parable of
00:29:21.72\00:29:24.15
the lost coin, the
lost sheep, the lost son,
00:29:24.16\00:29:26.32
there are some who
are lost that don't
00:29:26.85\00:29:28.99
know they are
lost, that's right.
00:29:29.00\00:29:30.40
The others that are
lost that required a lot
00:29:30.80\00:29:32.89
of effort to find
them, and then there are
00:29:32.90\00:29:34.76
some that are lost
that don't want you to
00:29:34.77\00:29:36.18
come after them,
the Prodigal Son he just
00:29:36.19\00:29:38.64
have to pray for them
till the Lord opens up
00:29:38.65\00:29:42.23
their eyes to
their circumstances and
00:29:42.24\00:29:43.93
they will come back on
their own recognizance.
00:29:43.94\00:29:45.60
So, I think that
what we could to prepare
00:29:46.03\00:29:47.86
for that is maybe go
through our list in the
00:29:47.87\00:29:50.36
directory and
start praying for those
00:29:50.37\00:29:51.89
names and you will
be amazed the number
00:29:51.90\00:29:54.81
of stories we told
about people that were
00:29:54.82\00:29:56.45
converted and
baptized because some people
00:29:56.46\00:29:58.69
just picked names
out of the phone book and
00:29:58.70\00:30:00.14
and pray for them. And when the
00:30:00.15\00:30:01.70
baptism time came
they got the particular
00:30:01.71\00:30:03.72
story, we will come
back to that later on
00:30:03.73\00:30:05.00
the program.
Seven, out of the many
00:30:05.01\00:30:08.82
people 7 of those
people were people
00:30:08.83\00:30:10.62
that lady just
picked names out of her
00:30:10.63\00:30:12.96
towns phone book
and pray for them,
00:30:13.35\00:30:14.98
really, and saw 7 of
them getting baptized.
00:30:15.33\00:30:17.61
Let me just say
word here, I wanna hi to
00:30:18.40\00:30:20.64
Miss Batchelor and
the Batchelor boys.
00:30:20.65\00:30:23.02
And by the way
Danny you will get a
00:30:23.78\00:30:24.93
kick out this, I
wish I'd saved for a weeks
00:30:24.94\00:30:27.53
and kept listening to
it. I got this voice mail
00:30:27.54\00:30:30.51
on my phone and it
said grandpa will you
00:30:30.52\00:30:35.08
please call me and
in the background I hear
00:30:35.09\00:30:36.71
my voice, and it
was our daughter Jessie
00:30:36.72\00:30:41.91
who was in the
Mexico, she ran into
00:30:41.92\00:30:43.48
the program on
Dish Network, and she
00:30:43.49\00:30:46.21
thought oh there he
is, I wanna talk to him
00:30:46.22\00:30:48.20
and so she was
watching 3ABN, alright.
00:30:48.21\00:30:50.41
I thought it was so
precious but Karen is
00:30:50.42\00:30:53.32
becoming more
involved in our membership
00:30:53.33\00:30:55.06
list Sacramento Central, okay.
00:30:55.07\00:30:56.87
And she is just
want into get updated and
00:30:56.88\00:30:58.38
organize and in
the process she calls
00:30:58.39\00:31:02.08
people to say is your
address right, and she
00:31:02.09\00:31:04.63
always says you
know are you going some
00:31:04.64\00:31:06.42
more else we
haven't seen you lately and
00:31:06.43\00:31:08.48
you know our big
cities its easy to,
00:31:08.49\00:31:09.81
people go to
different churches and they
00:31:09.82\00:31:11.51
don't know which they transfer.
00:31:11.52\00:31:12.49
And some people
only wanted a phone
00:31:13.52\00:31:15.91
call and they started
coming back again, wow.
00:31:15.92\00:31:17.75
They wanted someone
to say where have you
00:31:18.15\00:31:20.67
been, I notice you are missing.
00:31:20.68\00:31:22.48
And so a big
percentage of these people that
00:31:23.14\00:31:25.16
are missing wanna
come back, but they
00:31:25.17\00:31:28.17
just want someone to
notice they are gone,
00:31:28.18\00:31:29.73
and invite him
back, everyone wants
00:31:30.61\00:31:32.50
to be wanted. Right oh sure,
00:31:32.51\00:31:34.11
but how does
this work hand in hand
00:31:34.43\00:31:35.88
with the revival and
its wonderful because,
00:31:35.89\00:31:38.11
if we can maybe
get people to come back
00:31:38.50\00:31:40.58
to church but, if
nothing is changed
00:31:40.59\00:31:42.25
they maybe leaving
again. So, this year revival
00:31:42.64\00:31:44.83
and reformation
within a church it
00:31:44.84\00:31:47.09
gives a several
months for that and
00:31:47.10\00:31:48.72
when people
come in and see a new
00:31:48.73\00:31:50.49
anointing of the Holy
Spirit, they are gonna
00:31:50.50\00:31:52.93
wanna be a part of
this. That's your new spirit.
00:31:52.94\00:31:55.27
Everybody is at the
bottom and looking up.
00:31:55.62\00:31:57.32
Everybody has a
homing device that's
00:31:57.86\00:31:59.99
says we are
really strangers here
00:32:00.00\00:32:01.94
sojourners and our
real place is heaven,
00:32:01.95\00:32:05.46
that's right. We
just have to help him.
00:32:05.91\00:32:07.63
Yeah it's absolutely
the priority right now,
00:32:08.38\00:32:11.67
and we can't
wait until we see the
00:32:12.40\00:32:13.88
heavens part before
we realize our need to
00:32:13.89\00:32:16.03
be right with God.
And you know as the
00:32:16.04\00:32:19.80
years ago by I
become painfully aware of
00:32:19.81\00:32:23.11
that everyday is a
gift and while you've got
00:32:23.12\00:32:27.09
your strength
and you've got some
00:32:27.10\00:32:28.34
clarity of mind, you
need to just be ready
00:32:28.35\00:32:32.24
to for the Lord at any moment.
00:32:32.25\00:32:34.51
And what you
were just saying about
00:32:35.18\00:32:36.49
meeting that
gentleman on the aeroplane,
00:32:36.50\00:32:38.21
it's occurred to
me that God is so
00:32:39.68\00:32:41.27
powerful that if we
tell him everyday we
00:32:41.28\00:32:43.72
are willing to be
use by you Lord to reach
00:32:43.73\00:32:46.71
people, that he will
arrange providence all
00:32:46.72\00:32:49.74
through the day
where everything it happens
00:32:49.75\00:32:51.72
well accomplish
one of two things,
00:32:51.73\00:32:52.95
everything that
happens, will he would be
00:32:52.96\00:32:55.08
working to save
us or working to save
00:32:55.09\00:32:57.77
others through us usually both.
00:32:57.78\00:33:00.05
And so every little
thing be a late for a
00:33:01.33\00:33:04.25
flight or missing
a plane or you know
00:33:04.26\00:33:06.56
any kind of
blessing, or problem that may
00:33:06.57\00:33:08.93
come you have to
always recognize in
00:33:08.94\00:33:11.65
the great picture
God is wanting to use us
00:33:11.66\00:33:13.34
somehow to sanctify
me or to reach other
00:33:13.35\00:33:17.11
people through me,
and so I'm just gonna
00:33:17.12\00:33:19.05
thank him and
praise him for, good.
00:33:19.06\00:33:20.61
People wanna to
know truth, I mean
00:33:21.35\00:33:22.91
that's a thing
they wanna know truth,
00:33:23.03\00:33:24.38
in the last few years
I sat by two professional
00:33:24.93\00:33:27.12
athletes that I
ended up praying with
00:33:27.13\00:33:29.37
holding hands with
them praying right on
00:33:29.38\00:33:30.90
an aeroplane, they
both had left their
00:33:30.91\00:33:33.69
respective churches,
one was a professional
00:33:33.70\00:33:36.24
wrestler, big
time big name wrestler.
00:33:36.25\00:33:38.67
They have dolls you
can go into Wal-Mart
00:33:38.92\00:33:40.87
and some buy dolls
of him and another was
00:33:40.88\00:33:43.52
football player
with Indiana Colts.
00:33:43.53\00:33:45.28
And the Lord just
work to where we sat
00:33:45.78\00:33:47.69
you know right next
to each other fairly
00:33:47.97\00:33:50.35
long trips and both
of these guys told me,
00:33:50.36\00:33:53.95
said these separate
flights the same story.
00:33:54.21\00:33:56.92
When they were
young, one of them
00:33:57.31\00:33:59.14
lost their mother,
and everybody told him
00:33:59.15\00:34:02.16
God took their mother to heaven.
00:34:02.17\00:34:03.46
So, they say well
he said I was raised
00:34:04.29\00:34:06.54
without mother,
every school function.
00:34:06.55\00:34:08.72
I didn't have a mother,
everybody has had a mother.
00:34:08.97\00:34:10.84
Everything I want
to do, and then he said
00:34:11.30\00:34:13.82
all the Christians
around me said well
00:34:13.83\00:34:15.24
God took your
mother he wanted her to you
00:34:15.25\00:34:16.86
know be in heaven.
So, he said I don't
00:34:17.24\00:34:18.90
have anything to do with God.
00:34:18.91\00:34:19.91
You know the
other one was the same
00:34:20.44\00:34:22.95
thing so I begin to
share him now John 10:10
00:34:22.96\00:34:25.79
The thief cometh not,
but for to steal, and to
00:34:25.80\00:34:28.43
kill, and to
destroy Jesus says I've came
00:34:28.44\00:34:30.52
to give you life and
give it more abundantly.
00:34:30.53\00:34:32.12
So, we started
going through these things
00:34:32.48\00:34:34.53
and literally I was able
to pray with both of them.
00:34:34.91\00:34:37.06
And I call one of him
later out in Texas and
00:34:37.47\00:34:39.64
talk to him and
give him some books of
00:34:39.65\00:34:41.74
Desire of Ages,
Great Controversy.
00:34:41.75\00:34:43.80
And he said this
is so life changing,
00:34:43.81\00:34:45.46
we don't hear that
and we never, why didn't
00:34:45.87\00:34:48.08
we know this information.
Amen, yeah, there is
00:34:48.09\00:34:51.91
always wonderful opportunities.
00:34:51.92\00:34:53.56
I wanna ask you a
question going back
00:34:54.60\00:34:56.21
to the issue about
the Muslim, but first what
00:34:56.22\00:34:58.01
I wanna do is
remind our audience about
00:34:58.02\00:34:59.65
our special offer, okay sure.
00:34:59.66\00:35:01.01
Because you just
talked about salvation
00:35:01.33\00:35:02.92
and reclaiming
missing members has a lot to
00:35:02.93\00:35:05.07
do with salvation
and some of that maybe
00:35:05.08\00:35:07.39
asking this question.
Is it easer to be saved
00:35:07.75\00:35:10.64
or to be lost, and
if you like a free copy
00:35:10.65\00:35:12.82
of this you can call
us here at 618-627-4651,
00:35:12.83\00:35:17.36
or you can send
at freeoffer@3abn.org
00:35:17.37\00:35:20.74
for a copy of this
freeoffer@3abn.org.
00:35:21.21\00:35:23.65
And it's written
by Joe Crews connected
00:35:24.06\00:35:26.75
to Amazing Facts, the
pioneer of Amazing Facts.
00:35:26.76\00:35:29.09
Getting back to
the issue of Muslims,
00:35:30.04\00:35:31.47
one of the things I'm
noticing also there is a
00:35:31.87\00:35:35.39
climate around the
world religiously on
00:35:35.40\00:35:38.34
one end the doors
are opening for people to
00:35:38.35\00:35:41.06
be able to preach
Christianity in more
00:35:41.07\00:35:43.16
parts of the world.
But on the other side
00:35:43.17\00:35:45.53
of that there is
movement to prohibit
00:35:45.54\00:35:47.95
what you can
actually say when you preach?
00:35:47.96\00:35:50.93
So, how do you see
that fitting into the
00:35:51.80\00:35:54.96
picture of the
gospel getting to the world
00:35:54.97\00:35:57.31
when you almost
being told what you
00:35:57.32\00:35:58.73
can and cannot say in
certain parts of the world.
00:35:58.74\00:36:01.59
Yeah that was such
a great controversy,
00:36:02.12\00:36:03.75
and at the same time
you've got this Titanic
00:36:04.26\00:36:07.12
War that's raging
between the forces of
00:36:07.13\00:36:09.10
good and evil,
between God's angels
00:36:09.11\00:36:10.74
and the devil's
angels. God is trying to open
00:36:10.75\00:36:13.70
the doors
through his providence.
00:36:13.71\00:36:15.09
And well of
course you know the God
00:36:15.74\00:36:16.99
can do anything
by force if he wanted
00:36:17.00\00:36:18.69
too, but he is
working through humans and
00:36:18.70\00:36:21.41
his angels and we
don't know who he cooperate.
00:36:21.42\00:36:23.58
And so you've seen
opportunity opening
00:36:25.01\00:36:26.78
up in some of
these countries that are
00:36:26.79\00:36:28.76
predominately
Buddhist or Muslim or Hindu.
00:36:28.77\00:36:33.23
At the same time
in the Western world
00:36:33.98\00:36:36.54
and the first world countries,
00:36:36.55\00:36:37.99
they are saying
anything negative you
00:36:38.95\00:36:40.50
might say about
anyone else's religion,
00:36:40.51\00:36:43.36
so if you were to
talk about you know the
00:36:43.37\00:36:45.72
Beast of Revelation,
or if you were to talk
00:36:45.73\00:36:48.11
about Godly
Living and you know say
00:36:48.12\00:36:50.22
anything negative
about same sex marriage.
00:36:50.23\00:36:52.25
It's classified as
hate speech, and people
00:36:52.95\00:36:55.62
are being
shutdown for these things.
00:36:55.63\00:36:57.40
There are some
countries where our
00:36:58.09\00:37:00.25
teams go and matter
of fact this week I met
00:37:00.26\00:37:02.60
with some broadcasters
from another country,
00:37:02.61\00:37:04.59
said we really
appreciate your program, now
00:37:05.04\00:37:07.53
keep in mind in
our country we preview
00:37:07.54\00:37:10.52
the programs and
we have to pull the
00:37:10.53\00:37:12.39
programs if you say
anything that has any
00:37:12.40\00:37:15.45
kind of a negative slant on the
00:37:15.46\00:37:17.87
homosexual
lifestyle. And I mean you
00:37:17.88\00:37:22.90
basically and
sensibly you could just open
00:37:23.29\00:37:25.78
up the Bible and
read what it says about
00:37:25.79\00:37:28.28
you know man is not
supposed to lie with a
00:37:28.67\00:37:30.41
man as with the
woman, yeah and they
00:37:30.42\00:37:31.88
says that's hate
speech. You know what, that
00:37:31.89\00:37:33.92
limits proclamation,
I was telling John and
00:37:33.93\00:37:36.52
Doug today I
don't know if any of you
00:37:36.53\00:37:38.34
did you hear on
the news this week,
00:37:38.35\00:37:40.09
I heard in England a
Pentecostal Christian
00:37:40.10\00:37:42.70
family foster
parents having their kids
00:37:42.71\00:37:45.85
taken away from
them for saying that they
00:37:45.86\00:37:48.76
believe in
homosexual life trying to teach
00:37:48.91\00:37:50.83
these young children
a homosexual lifestyle
00:37:50.84\00:37:53.36
as a sin according to the Bible.
00:37:53.83\00:37:55.42
I mean what is
this world coming to,
00:37:55.75\00:37:57.43
that's amazing, so
the only way they can
00:37:57.44\00:37:59.89
keep him, as you
can't teach them what the
00:37:59.90\00:38:02.28
Bible says. I mean
it's unbelievable I heard it
00:38:02.29\00:38:05.56
and I marveled I
said are we there already,
00:38:05.57\00:38:07.54
are we that close
you know that that's
00:38:07.55\00:38:10.06
happening, that
happens in England
00:38:11.67\00:38:12.64
and it can happen
here in United States I'm
00:38:12.65\00:38:14.69
sure it will before too long.
00:38:14.70\00:38:15.95
That you can't
really, you don't really have
00:38:16.33\00:38:18.36
freedom of religion
if you can't say what
00:38:18.37\00:38:20.16
you believe, yeah.
On some of the prominent
00:38:20.17\00:38:23.46
commandments
dealing with adultery with
00:38:23.47\00:38:27.57
covetousness and
materialism with you
00:38:27.58\00:38:32.43
know honoring your
parents and parental rights.
00:38:32.44\00:38:34.33
The culture through
the media is they are
00:38:35.76\00:38:38.98
all under attack
instead of parents
00:38:38.99\00:38:41.57
being responsible
for their families and
00:38:41.58\00:38:43.90
children being
taught to respect their
00:38:43.91\00:38:45.78
mother and
father. Parents by the MTV
00:38:45.79\00:38:49.66
generation are
being derided and marked,
00:38:49.67\00:38:52.05
and degraded
and dishonoring your
00:38:52.06\00:38:54.06
parents it just
seems like is promoted.
00:38:54.07\00:38:56.23
The marriage relationship
you know I think that
00:38:57.03\00:38:59.51
most people know
that typical television
00:38:59.52\00:39:01.35
that they figure
that you introduce
00:39:02.04\00:39:03.23
yourself to
somebody and next thing you
00:39:03.24\00:39:05.98
know you share bed
and shake hands and
00:39:05.99\00:39:08.15
that's it like there
is just marriage has lost
00:39:08.16\00:39:11.39
its sanctity and oh
this is gonna sound like
00:39:11.40\00:39:16.28
what they call in
television a plug.
00:39:16.29\00:39:18.80
I've been so
troubled as I just finished a
00:39:19.27\00:39:20.73
book, good
marriage. I was thinking it's
00:39:20.74\00:39:22.94
funny because
yeah for some one name
00:39:22.95\00:39:25.65
Batchelor to
write a book upon about
00:39:25.66\00:39:26.70
marriage, yeah
you practice, you have
00:39:26.71\00:39:28.11
think about it, but
we get so many questions
00:39:28.12\00:39:30.67
even Christian
families you know the divorce
00:39:31.26\00:39:33.03
rate is about as high
is in the world and it's
00:39:33.04\00:39:35.67
called romance and
reality the Bible on
00:39:35.68\00:39:39.54
marriage divorce and remarriage,
00:39:39.55\00:39:41.25
because we get a lot
of questions on that.
00:39:41.46\00:39:43.20
And so that's under
attack in the materialism,
00:39:44.07\00:39:47.38
the commandment
about covetousness,
00:39:47.39\00:39:49.04
that's right. it's
like a man's life Jesus said
00:39:49.05\00:39:52.41
is not
consistently abundance of things
00:39:52.42\00:39:54.65
that he possesses
and yet we were spending
00:39:54.66\00:39:57.30
our souls into
oblivion and lot of
00:39:57.31\00:39:59.67
people just their
credit cards are maxed out,
00:39:59.68\00:40:02.43
and it's all been
promoted these counter biblical
00:40:03.29\00:40:07.61
principles are
being promoted by the
00:40:07.62\00:40:10.38
media of the world
and that's why I'm so
00:40:10.39\00:40:12.00
thankful for 3ABN that
gives the other message.
00:40:12.01\00:40:14.32
I mean I'm amazed
this Bill Meyer I think
00:40:15.18\00:40:18.43
it's his name
Meyer, I don't know how to
00:40:18.44\00:40:19.70
say it in HBO has
a show, I'm not sure
00:40:19.71\00:40:24.91
anyway Bill he has
a show and one night
00:40:24.92\00:40:27.89
I happen to see
it. Somebody said you
00:40:27.90\00:40:29.54
got to watch this
show and I was at hotel,
00:40:29.55\00:40:31.87
watched the show
and it's okay for him to
00:40:32.29\00:40:35.81
make fun of all
Christians, makes fun
00:40:35.82\00:40:38.04
of anybody who is a
Christian, makes fun
00:40:38.05\00:40:40.29
anybody that
believes in creation they can
00:40:40.54\00:40:43.57
do all that and
that's politically correct,
00:40:43.58\00:40:45.61
isn't that amazing,
it's amazing fact, that's an
00:40:46.36\00:40:49.18
amazing fact, if
you can think about it,
00:40:49.19\00:40:51.21
they can do all
of that and everybody
00:40:51.22\00:40:53.52
applauded him the
audience did and he
00:40:53.53\00:40:55.85
had a man on their
that it was talking and
00:40:55.86\00:40:59.47
he is a politician
but he said you are
00:40:59.48\00:41:01.52
Christian, he said
yeah and he said you
00:41:01.53\00:41:03.16
believe in creation?
Yeah, you believe in God?
00:41:03.17\00:41:05.91
And he just started
laughing and he said
00:41:06.07\00:41:07.47
this is how dumb
basically I want paraphrase,
00:41:07.86\00:41:10.33
how dumb can
you be and you are a
00:41:10.53\00:41:12.55
politician and you
believe foolish stuff
00:41:12.56\00:41:15.57
like that and the
audience was thrill to death.
00:41:15.58\00:41:17.74
You know like oh how wonderful,
00:41:18.05\00:41:19.46
he is really put him
in a place and that's
00:41:19.47\00:41:22.80
politically correct,
so why isn't that consider
00:41:22.81\00:41:25.04
a hate crime. You know what I'm
00:41:25.05\00:41:26.21
saying? Because we
know that the devil is
00:41:26.22\00:41:28.54
in charge, he is the
prince of this earth.
00:41:28.55\00:41:30.10
Well the whole
battle between these
00:41:30.11\00:41:33.46
cultures has been
fought right now in
00:41:33.47\00:41:36.41
the on the platform
in North America and in
00:41:36.42\00:41:39.01
the media. And when you mention
00:41:39.02\00:41:42.19
somebody like
that I sometimes I wish
00:41:42.20\00:41:44.68
I could be in a
lifeboat out on a
00:41:44.69\00:41:47.60
ocean with a person
like that for few days
00:41:47.61\00:41:50.22
because I used to
think that way, yeah.
00:41:50.59\00:41:52.73
I used to thing
anyone you know I was grew
00:41:52.74\00:41:55.07
up surrounded by
my mom that was in
00:41:55.08\00:41:57.09
Hollywood who does
scoffed at religion and
00:41:57.10\00:42:00.39
I scoffed at anybody
who believed in creation.
00:42:00.40\00:42:02.64
And I don't
think these people have
00:42:03.55\00:42:05.51
considered the
logical scientific analytical
00:42:05.52\00:42:12.93
reasonable
evidence that what other
00:42:12.94\00:42:18.02
alternative do you
have for an explanation of
00:42:18.03\00:42:21.56
what we have in
the cosmos today,
00:42:21.57\00:42:23.29
than an intelligent
God. When you really break
00:42:23.95\00:42:25.90
it down it is the
intelligent thing.
00:42:25.91\00:42:27.91
And so, but I loved
to be able to reason with
00:42:29.05\00:42:31.17
a person like
that. And what the devil
00:42:31.18\00:42:34.21
has done is let's
face it, there are people
00:42:34.22\00:42:36.87
that take the name of
Christ, that really give
00:42:36.88\00:42:39.62
us a bad name,
sure. And they love to
00:42:39.63\00:42:43.42
highlight and hold
forth in grandstand
00:42:43.43\00:42:46.08
the bad examples of
Christianity and the
00:42:46.54\00:42:48.71
hypocrites that are out there.
00:42:48.72\00:42:50.70
And so they don't
hear the good, the
00:42:51.70\00:42:53.21
powerful evidence,
but yeah there is an
00:42:53.22\00:42:56.68
inequity between
giving fair time to.
00:42:56.69\00:43:00.72
This guy did entire
documentary going to
00:43:00.73\00:43:03.61
different
religions around the world to
00:43:03.62\00:43:07.04
mark all of them
that if they believed in
00:43:07.05\00:43:09.72
God, and they did
a documentary, I mean
00:43:09.73\00:43:12.59
it's just
absolutely incredible, and but
00:43:12.60\00:43:15.75
that's okay to do,
but you cant teach your
00:43:15.76\00:43:18.27
foster children or
it's gonna be our own
00:43:18.28\00:43:20.04
children what
the Bible says about
00:43:20.05\00:43:22.30
homosexuality for
instance or murder or
00:43:22.31\00:43:25.17
for whatever you
wanna talk about you know.
00:43:25.18\00:43:27.85
And so freedom of
religion now is open
00:43:28.05\00:43:29.84
for
reinterpretation like marriage,
00:43:29.85\00:43:31.67
reinterpretation of
marriage, morality all
00:43:31.84\00:43:35.15
these things have
a point where they
00:43:35.16\00:43:37.08
started to be
singled out and attacked,
00:43:37.09\00:43:39.08
when we say many,
many years ago but
00:43:39.48\00:43:41.73
not doing a plug
here, but a series I am
00:43:42.34\00:43:43.96
gonna be doing
coming up later in
00:43:43.97\00:43:45.19
March is about that
this last day push on
00:43:45.20\00:43:48.99
dismembering and dismantling and
00:43:49.00\00:43:51.36
breaking down every
institution of morality.
00:43:51.37\00:43:53.71
And so it's actually
an orchestration that's
00:43:54.17\00:43:56.19
something that's
done just sporadically but
00:43:56.20\00:43:57.81
it's an orchestration.
And if you were the
00:43:57.82\00:44:00.08
enemy what would you wanna do,
00:44:00.09\00:44:01.12
when you know that
we are committed to
00:44:01.44\00:44:02.90
preaching the
gospel, I mean how many
00:44:02.91\00:44:04.22
Christian ministries are there?
00:44:04.23\00:44:05.35
Every one of them
in some sense had some
00:44:06.34\00:44:09.13
Bible truth that's
reaching some heart;
00:44:09.14\00:44:11.58
if you were the
devil wouldn't you try to
00:44:11.59\00:44:12.72
counteract that?
So, we are trying to
00:44:12.73\00:44:14.36
counteract the
counterfeit is what
00:44:14.37\00:44:15.37
he is trying to do.
Yeah he is trying to
00:44:15.38\00:44:18.24
advertise and
promote it, yeah and amazing.
00:44:18.25\00:44:21.12
Yeah so we are seeing
this incredible tension
00:44:21.59\00:44:25.48
where on one
hand the new doors are
00:44:26.02\00:44:27.41
opening up for
the gospel and yet in
00:44:27.42\00:44:29.95
places that use to be
the bastions of truth.
00:44:29.96\00:44:34.17
You know England
was part of that great
00:44:34.98\00:44:36.67
reformation Whitefield
and Wesley and Wycliffe
00:44:36.68\00:44:40.49
and Tyndale and
you think about all the
00:44:40.50\00:44:43.24
heroes of faith
there, and this may just be
00:44:43.25\00:44:47.37
what they call an internet fact,
00:44:47.38\00:44:48.86
you know we read
all kinds of things but
00:44:49.10\00:44:50.44
I think there is some
truth to it that on any
00:44:50.45\00:44:52.59
given Sunday now
there are more people
00:44:52.60\00:44:54.28
in mosques in Great
Britain than they are
00:44:54.29\00:44:57.36
in the churches of England.
00:44:57.37\00:44:58.45
Really, wow that
would be a surprise.
00:44:58.46\00:45:00.04
And the churches
of England are being
00:45:00.58\00:45:01.95
sold as mosques or
restaurants, or private
00:45:01.96\00:45:05.93
homes and because of
such an apathy about God.
00:45:05.94\00:45:11.28
So you've seen a
shift here in the western
00:45:11.49\00:45:13.75
world, but at the
same time its like the wave
00:45:13.76\00:45:15.99
is kind of left
North American in some
00:45:16.00\00:45:18.33
ways in other
parts of the world there,
00:45:18.34\00:45:20.76
you are seeing a
revival taking place.
00:45:20.77\00:45:23.32
So, I wanna be
surfing where the wave is.
00:45:24.23\00:45:26.08
But, you know wave
has a duel effect it
00:45:26.99\00:45:29.00
comes in but it
also goes out, yeah.
00:45:29.01\00:45:31.33
So, the wave
that's coming is knocking
00:45:31.34\00:45:32.73
over all the things
that are right and pulling
00:45:32.74\00:45:34.32
the things that
are right out in so to
00:45:34.33\00:45:36.84
speak drowning
them in this pool of,
00:45:36.85\00:45:39.35
I would say
pool of popularity or
00:45:40.18\00:45:41.79
meandering at the
amazing mediocrity,
00:45:42.17\00:45:43.82
it's all been
broken down orchestrated
00:45:44.40\00:45:47.70
strategically and so
that's what the devil is
00:45:47.90\00:45:49.74
but the wonderful
thing is we have the
00:45:49.75\00:45:51.60
promise the Lord says
I've set before you an
00:45:51.61\00:45:54.43
open door which
no man could shut.
00:45:54.44\00:45:56.43
And that's how was
until the Lord closed
00:45:57.42\00:45:59.11
the door in Noah's
day, so it's gonna stay
00:45:59.12\00:46:01.09
open for us to
continue to preach the
00:46:01.10\00:46:02.80
gospel, praise
the Lord for that.
00:46:02.81\00:46:04.04
Yeah I think that
there is going to be
00:46:04.97\00:46:06.97
opportunity God
is gonna keep doors
00:46:06.98\00:46:08.85
open as we near
the end, but there is
00:46:08.86\00:46:12.68
gonna be
resistance you know Jesus said
00:46:12.69\00:46:14.37
to work while at
his day for the night is
00:46:14.38\00:46:16.97
coming when no man can work.
00:46:16.98\00:46:19.23
And there is code from spirit of
00:46:20.24\00:46:22.34
prophecy that says
and I'm paraphrasing
00:46:22.35\00:46:24.44
here, what we fail
to do right now in times
00:46:24.45\00:46:27.48
of great
opportunity will be compelled to
00:46:27.49\00:46:29.22
do with great
opposition and resistance.
00:46:29.23\00:46:31.48
And so you know
right now we have
00:46:32.62\00:46:34.97
incredible opportunities
to all around the world
00:46:34.98\00:46:38.19
and you know
what's happening with
00:46:38.80\00:46:40.14
satellite
television and the internet,
00:46:40.52\00:46:42.20
to me it's
phenomenal that you can take
00:46:42.56\00:46:46.74
you know a gospel
program and stream it on the
00:46:46.75\00:46:49.81
internet and it
is accessible now
00:46:49.82\00:46:51.96
all over the
world, yeah. You know just
00:46:53.97\00:46:56.71
before I came over
here this evening for
00:46:56.72\00:46:58.62
this live
program, bless your hearts,
00:46:58.63\00:47:01.09
our Sabbath school
program was on, okay.
00:47:01.64\00:47:03.48
And people here
to see as how did you
00:47:03.92\00:47:06.64
change so quickly, I
said I wear different shirt.
00:47:06.65\00:47:08.70
But, every week we
get song requests and
00:47:10.16\00:47:14.96
people in Kuwait
and you know Australia
00:47:14.97\00:47:18.96
out in the outback
folks who were living
00:47:18.97\00:47:21.08
up in the woods in
Canada and it's just
00:47:21.09\00:47:23.40
amazing to us, there
is really no corner of the
00:47:23.41\00:47:25.54
earth that we
don't get requests from.
00:47:25.55\00:47:28.24
And people say we
are being watching
00:47:28.97\00:47:30.16
Sabbath school can
you sing this song?
00:47:30.17\00:47:32.09
And they may not
ask any Bible question
00:47:33.00\00:47:34.41
but just the fact
that many people and
00:47:34.42\00:47:37.82
those are the
ones who speak English
00:47:37.83\00:47:39.03
you wonder how
many others are only
00:47:39.04\00:47:40.24
getting bits and pieces
of it, that's right yeah.
00:47:40.25\00:47:42.31
So, it's just
its mind boggling the
00:47:42.99\00:47:44.67
opportunities right
now. And we have to take
00:47:44.68\00:47:47.06
advantage of
those God has given us
00:47:47.07\00:47:48.73
technology thanks to
all of you to literally
00:47:48.74\00:47:51.38
reach world. Maybe
you two guys ought to
00:47:51.39\00:47:53.13
do a tag team on
a practicality of
00:47:53.14\00:47:55.27
prophecy because
right now you think
00:47:55.28\00:47:57.66
about that because
we hear all prophecies
00:47:57.67\00:47:59.97
and it just as it
seems to be in the mind and
00:47:59.98\00:48:02.75
not people say but
that's all sounds great,
00:48:02.76\00:48:05.41
2300 days
whatever but how do I do
00:48:05.42\00:48:07.64
what's happening now, right.
00:48:07.90\00:48:09.15
People need to be able
to take all of that and
00:48:09.42\00:48:12.00
say, oh this is
where we are living now,
00:48:12.01\00:48:14.24
this is how I deal with this,
00:48:14.66\00:48:16.16
oh I shouldn't be discouraged.
00:48:16.17\00:48:17.86
Someone said to me
today who has been a
00:48:18.41\00:48:20.11
minister for 40
years called me early this
00:48:20.12\00:48:23.84
morning, not a
Seventh-day Adventist Christian,
00:48:23.85\00:48:25.97
but a Christian
minister called me
00:48:25.98\00:48:27.72
and he said how do
you deal with the fact
00:48:28.16\00:48:30.76
how unfair everything
is in this world today,
00:48:30.77\00:48:33.45
I can't deal with it anymore.
00:48:33.67\00:48:34.96
Why does God allow
such terrible things to
00:48:35.70\00:48:39.63
happen in this
world? And he is discouraged
00:48:39.64\00:48:42.22
and wanted he give
up, and I had to really
00:48:42.50\00:48:44.10
talk to him and I
am telling I'm praying
00:48:44.11\00:48:45.47
with you hang in
there don't be discouraged,
00:48:45.48\00:48:47.95
but you see it's
when you know the truth
00:48:48.44\00:48:51.34
the truth will
set you free, right.
00:48:52.13\00:48:53.62
So, I've shared with
him what I believe the
00:48:53.94\00:48:56.47
Bible says about the
Satan, he is the prince
00:48:56.48\00:48:59.15
of this world.
But, it doesn't make any
00:48:59.16\00:49:01.19
difference the rain
falls on the justice as
00:49:01.20\00:49:03.12
well as the
unjust what makes the
00:49:03.13\00:49:05.05
difference as what
do we gonna do with the
00:49:05.06\00:49:06.64
70 years we have now, and where
00:49:06.65\00:49:08.82
we're gonna spend eternity?
00:49:08.83\00:49:09.96
So, if everything
was perfect in this world
00:49:10.28\00:49:13.75
who would need to save you?
00:49:14.12\00:49:15.11
We had always so
depended on yourself
00:49:15.87\00:49:17.54
no we have to see
the results of sin.
00:49:17.55\00:49:19.91
And what they are
with the practicality
00:49:20.29\00:49:21.79
I was just thinking
of you two guys here
00:49:21.80\00:49:23.46
doing maybe a
tag thing on this of
00:49:23.47\00:49:27.19
religion, of
prophecy and how do we deal
00:49:27.20\00:49:30.74
with day to day
situation. I mean today it's
00:49:30.75\00:49:33.64
beautiful, you turn
on and seeing in Doug
00:49:33.65\00:49:35.84
and you see all
these countries going down.
00:49:36.21\00:49:38.19
If you don't
prophecy what do you
00:49:38.53\00:49:40.92
think it does to
you? You know it helps to
00:49:40.93\00:49:43.99
remember this story
that the Bible gives us
00:49:44.00\00:49:47.97
that behind the veil
the devil is using all
00:49:48.57\00:49:52.63
of his power to
affect a smear campaign on
00:49:52.64\00:49:56.79
God, okay. And so
when people call and
00:49:56.80\00:49:59.04
say if God is good,
if God is love then why
00:49:59.05\00:50:02.29
does he allow all
this, and how can he
00:50:02.54\00:50:04.73
and just
understand and even prophecy,
00:50:05.82\00:50:08.41
and prophecies in
Isaiah and Ezekiel
00:50:08.42\00:50:10.06
they talk about
the fall of Lucifer.
00:50:10.07\00:50:11.68
We see those same
things acted out in
00:50:12.40\00:50:13.96
people's life
everyday, I mean it happens
00:50:13.97\00:50:15.96
with Hollywood
stars where they just
00:50:15.97\00:50:17.67
become so full of
themselves that they
00:50:17.68\00:50:20.51
self destruct, there you go.
00:50:21.11\00:50:22.28
And you know that what happen to
00:50:22.61\00:50:24.90
Lucifer, he basically
went mad with self love.
00:50:25.07\00:50:27.60
And Jesus is trying
to save us from that
00:50:28.33\00:50:30.44
disease is a
pandemic of selfishness.
00:50:30.45\00:50:33.18
Isn't that
interesting that people in
00:50:33.19\00:50:35.02
Hollywood they call
him stars like third of
00:50:35.03\00:50:37.65
the stars of heaven
fell, you now people
00:50:37.66\00:50:40.37
want to be called
stars, I means that's
00:50:40.38\00:50:41.97
interesting,
falling stars, yeah.
00:50:41.98\00:50:43.67
You look like you
are finding a verse.
00:50:44.02\00:50:45.16
Well the person
who talked about how
00:50:45.17\00:50:47.04
different things
are, and you said the
00:50:47.05\00:50:48.82
practicality of
prophecy, well one of the ways
00:50:48.83\00:50:51.55
we can apply that
under practical way is
00:50:51.56\00:50:53.79
to let people
know that God is not
00:50:53.80\00:50:55.49
responsible for the
ill things of the world.
00:50:55.50\00:50:58.57
If on one hand as
preaches we see every
00:50:59.00\00:51:00.76
good and every
perfect gift comes
00:51:00.77\00:51:02.36
from God from the
father of light in
00:51:02.37\00:51:04.34
which there is no
variation, no shadow
00:51:04.35\00:51:06.91
of turning we
have to also apply the
00:51:06.92\00:51:09.26
practicality of
prophecy by saying
00:51:09.27\00:51:10.93
the devil has
come down with great
00:51:11.43\00:51:12.96
wrath knowing he
has but a short time.
00:51:12.97\00:51:15.17
He is turning the heat
up like he did on the 3
00:51:15.61\00:51:17.20
Hebrew worthies,
they were in Babylon
00:51:17.21\00:51:19.33
like we are spiritually
today but, the furnace
00:51:19.34\00:51:22.08
is going to get heated
up. And I always said to
00:51:22.09\00:51:24.15
people don't be
surprise when the
00:51:24.16\00:51:25.80
furnace gets heated
up. The real issue is at
00:51:25.81\00:51:28.35
that trying out
what your response are
00:51:28.36\00:51:30.11
going to be, are
you gonna stand up,
00:51:30.12\00:51:31.41
or you gonna be
concerned about the flames.
00:51:32.45\00:51:34.00
If you are
concerned about the flames,
00:51:34.87\00:51:36.22
you gonna end up bowing down.
00:51:36.68\00:51:37.81
If you are not
concerned about the
00:51:38.11\00:51:39.11
flames but your
allusions is to God,
00:51:39.12\00:51:40.80
you will forth go
even your life to show the
00:51:41.29\00:51:44.11
rest of the world,
that you cannot be brought.
00:51:44.12\00:51:46.03
And so I think that
these trials Doug and
00:51:46.32\00:51:48.67
Danny are really
helping us see where
00:51:48.68\00:51:51.70
we are in our
walk with God, not so
00:51:51.71\00:51:53.89
much giving us the strengths,
00:51:53.90\00:51:56.35
but showing us how
weakly we really are,
00:51:56.80\00:51:58.40
when we react in
a negative way like
00:51:58.77\00:52:00.20
saying I can't
handle it any longer.
00:52:00.21\00:52:01.71
One of my favorite
stories in the Bible is
00:52:03.13\00:52:05.43
after Jesus was
crucified and he rose
00:52:05.44\00:52:08.46
its in the Luke
chapter 24 starts with verse
00:52:08.47\00:52:11.68
13, it's called road
to a Emmaus, and these
00:52:11.69\00:52:14.65
two disciples are
so discouraged and they
00:52:14.66\00:52:16.79
are so bewildered
and they are thinking why
00:52:16.80\00:52:18.84
did God allow Jesus
to die. We thought he was
00:52:18.85\00:52:22.65
the Messiah, why did
he, and they were just
00:52:22.66\00:52:25.65
so mystified and so
sad and here Jesus is
00:52:25.66\00:52:30.82
walking right beside
them, and they don't know it.
00:52:30.83\00:52:33.23
And you know it
says he open their
00:52:33.24\00:52:35.62
understanding that they could
00:52:35.63\00:52:37.59
comprehend the scriptures.
00:52:37.60\00:52:38.98
As you walk down
the road he basically
00:52:39.45\00:52:41.41
needed to teach
them to apply the
00:52:41.42\00:52:44.40
prophecies, and by
the time they got to a
00:52:44.41\00:52:47.35
Emmaus they were
going from Jerusalem
00:52:47.36\00:52:49.10
to Emmaus which
is you know 7 miles
00:52:49.11\00:52:50.98
maybe 2 hour sermon,
I will love to have a
00:52:51.68\00:52:53.63
CD of that sermon.
And during that time
00:52:53.64\00:52:57.05
it says their
hearts were burning within
00:52:57.06\00:52:58.58
them as he opened
their understanding
00:52:58.59\00:53:01.08
and he said oh
fools and slow of heart to
00:53:01.80\00:53:04.77
believe all the
prophets have spoken
00:53:04.78\00:53:06.40
not the Christ who
have suffered these
00:53:06.41\00:53:08.15
things and
entered into his glory and
00:53:08.16\00:53:10.05
beginning with
Moses and all the prophets
00:53:10.06\00:53:12.01
he expounded on them and all the
00:53:12.02\00:53:13.52
scriptures the
things concerning himself.
00:53:13.53\00:53:16.72
All the scriptures are
telling us about Jesus,
00:53:17.24\00:53:19.15
and I believe all
the prophecies are really
00:53:19.97\00:53:21.75
redemptive in
nature. A lot of people and
00:53:21.76\00:53:24.43
I probably fall into
this temptation before.
00:53:24.44\00:53:26.56
We like to talk
about prophecy as they were
00:53:27.04\00:53:29.18
prognosticating,
one of a guy now seta
00:53:29.19\00:53:31.76
date, a few people
are setting dates for the
00:53:31.77\00:53:34.10
second coming of
Jesus. That's what I heard,
00:53:34.11\00:53:35.32
that's what I
heard tell us about it.
00:53:35.33\00:53:37.10
Well hopefully I'm
not, I don't want to
00:53:38.01\00:53:40.89
get any one
stirred up by this but,
00:53:40.90\00:53:42.88
oh go ahead. I wanna
say people, well if it's
00:53:43.14\00:53:46.85
a fact, if it's fact,
it's amazing fact, let us
00:53:46.86\00:53:49.80
know about it. You
know for years family
00:53:49.81\00:53:51.47
radio has been
around they been around 40
00:53:51.48\00:53:53.80
or 50 years I'm
not sure and they got
00:53:53.91\00:53:56.69
some great
programs, they have got some
00:53:56.70\00:53:58.21
good Christian
music but the founder has
00:53:58.22\00:54:02.50
become in my opinion
little eccentric and he
00:54:02.51\00:54:05.07
has set a couple of
dates for Christ coming.
00:54:05.08\00:54:07.03
Now of course the
first date he has said,
00:54:07.04\00:54:08.82
I think it was 94
came and went, yeah, and
00:54:09.16\00:54:12.36
he recalculated and
he has got people stirred
00:54:12.37\00:54:15.09
up now that he is
telling them that Jesus
00:54:15.10\00:54:16.93
is coming back, I
think it's May 21st or
00:54:16.94\00:54:19.59
22nd of this
year, I know this year,
00:54:19.60\00:54:21.77
I don't remember it's
21st, not too far from now.
00:54:21.78\00:54:24.74
And I was just at
this NRB which is you
00:54:25.50\00:54:27.62
know religious broadcasters from
00:54:27.63\00:54:29.38
around the
country and, there were
00:54:29.39\00:54:30.36
people there
Judgment Day May 21st and
00:54:30.37\00:54:32.39
they are handing
out their little flyers
00:54:32.40\00:54:34.53
telling everyone
get ready for the end of
00:54:34.54\00:54:35.94
the world, really.
And it saddens me to think
00:54:35.95\00:54:39.89
that so many people are gonna be
00:54:40.60\00:54:43.24
discouraged by
that and we were talking
00:54:43.25\00:54:47.16
I think over lunch
today and I said you
00:54:47.87\00:54:50.98
know Amazing
Facts has been really
00:54:50.99\00:54:52.19
tempted to buy a
full page ad in the
00:54:52.20\00:54:54.00
Oakland Paper, and
offered family radio,
00:54:54.01\00:54:58.01
$100,000 to use anyway they want
00:54:58.02\00:55:00.51
with the condition
that on the 30th of
00:55:00.97\00:55:04.31
May if they are
still there, they sign over
00:55:04.32\00:55:07.46
the network to
Amazing Facts, and if.
00:55:07.47\00:55:10.78
Because they have
no use for, if Jesus
00:55:11.15\00:55:12.96
comes in we put
the money in the right
00:55:12.97\00:55:14.40
place, okay. If
Jesus doesn't come then
00:55:14.41\00:55:16.88
they probably
shouldn't have a network, yeah
00:55:16.89\00:55:18.94
okay, you know
everyone all stirred up
00:55:18.95\00:55:20.67
and misguided like
that, that's right.
00:55:20.68\00:55:22.99
But that won't be
the first time you know
00:55:23.33\00:55:24.60
Christ said there
will be false Christs and
00:55:24.61\00:55:26.03
false prophets and,
but I just, hate people
00:55:26.04\00:55:29.01
getting there,
that's not the purpose of
00:55:29.02\00:55:31.18
prophecy. Jesus
said no man knows the day
00:55:31.19\00:55:33.67
and the hour, that's
right. And if there is
00:55:33.68\00:55:36.09
anything Christ was
clear about He said,
00:55:36.10\00:55:38.56
be ready. He said
in such an hours you
00:55:38.57\00:55:41.31
think not the son
of man is coming, yeah.
00:55:41.32\00:55:43.60
So for people who
just get stirred up with
00:55:43.99\00:55:45.78
these little
surges because someone's
00:55:45.79\00:55:47.69
come along with
some other end time
00:55:47.70\00:55:49.78
scenario, I don't
know you guys probably get
00:55:49.79\00:55:52.90
some of, you are
on some of these email
00:55:53.85\00:55:55.14
lists, and I bet
you both have some
00:55:55.15\00:55:57.01
friends that there
was any new conspiracy
00:55:57.02\00:55:59.38
or crisis, well
sure, yeah, they say have
00:55:59.39\00:56:01.19
you heard, sure, oh
yeah, is like they live
00:56:01.20\00:56:03.86
from one sensational,
spicy headline to the next,
00:56:03.87\00:56:07.44
and we really need
a consistent faith.
00:56:08.07\00:56:09.54
The Prophecy is so
important because it
00:56:09.77\00:56:11.57
gives us hope, because you wanna
00:56:11.58\00:56:14.00
know what's
gonna happen, not every
00:56:14.01\00:56:15.75
detail but you wanna
know this is all part of
00:56:15.76\00:56:18.37
God's plan. I was
in Florida a couple of
00:56:18.38\00:56:20.75
weeks ago; two
to three weeks ago,
00:56:20.76\00:56:22.17
we were there for
a couple of weeks,
00:56:22.18\00:56:23.24
doing live
programs. But I met a young
00:56:23.25\00:56:26.20
lady, who I knew,
and the week before got
00:56:26.21\00:56:30.09
discouraged and felt
like there is no hope
00:56:30.10\00:56:32.12
for her in this
world. She took a gun and
00:56:32.38\00:56:35.38
put it in her mouth
and pulled the trigger
00:56:35.39\00:56:37.34
and the bullet is
lodged to bottom of
00:56:38.19\00:56:40.58
her brain there,
she showed me she
00:56:40.59\00:56:43.22
opened her mouth,
kind of hit her tongue
00:56:43.23\00:56:46.34
too and you would see
the hole in the back of
00:56:46.35\00:56:48.59
her throat. She is
still alive, she lived
00:56:48.60\00:56:50.77
through it. But I
encouraged her hey
00:56:50.78\00:56:52.99
God has a plan for
you, you know don't
00:56:53.00\00:56:55.34
get that
discourage you, got to so,
00:56:55.35\00:56:57.25
you know, and I
pray for her now everyday
00:56:57.62\00:56:59.64
because people
living with that hope but
00:56:59.65\00:57:01.94
that's what
prophecy does, some people
00:57:01.95\00:57:03.54
like oh that's
what do we care. No.
00:57:03.55\00:57:05.72
Prophecy let you
know Got ultimately
00:57:05.73\00:57:08.09
is in-charge,
that's right, greater is he
00:57:08.10\00:57:09.86
that is in us than
he that is in the world.
00:57:09.87\00:57:12.23
And so that's what wonderful and
00:57:12.73\00:57:13.99
I appreciate both of
you guys that you are
00:57:14.00\00:57:16.34
willing to stand up
and give truth to the
00:57:16.35\00:57:18.65
lost and dying world.
And I appreciate all of
00:57:18.66\00:57:20.56
you who support
this network, support
00:57:20.57\00:57:23.56
Amazing Facts as
we endeavored to take
00:57:23.57\00:57:26.08
this gospel into all
the world, so thank you
00:57:26.44\00:57:28.74
for what you do. We
are gonna have to take
00:57:29.19\00:57:30.62
a short break in just a moment.
00:57:30.63\00:57:32.00
You wanna call in for
the free offer, also if
00:57:32.01\00:57:34.41
you have questions
or comments for pastor
00:57:34.42\00:57:36.97
Doug and John just
call us, but we will be
00:57:36.98\00:57:38.92
back we are
gonna take short break,
00:57:38.93\00:57:40.17
we will back in just a moment.
00:57:40.46\00:57:41.51