Hello and welcome to 3ABN Today,
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my name is C.A Murray
and allow me once again
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to thank you for
sharing this part of your day
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with us. For allowing
us to come into your home
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and prayerfully into
your hearts as together
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we seek to lift up
the name of Jesus and take
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one more step along that
road that leads to glory.
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This is a very, very
special night for a number
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of reasons, first I get
to co-host with my buddy
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John Dinzey and I
don't think we've had this
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opportunity before.
No, normally you're on
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this side and I'm on
that side somewhere and it's,
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it's a privilege, I'm
honored. Praise the Lord,
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we've never
shared the host share,
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but we doing so
tonight. Now, I need to ask your
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forgiveness, John
and I close friends,
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we worked very closely
together I have a great
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respect for him. If
you hear me slip during the
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course of the
evening and call him El Jefe,
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I have not insulted
him, I haven't called
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him heffer, I called
him El Jefe, that means
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the chief. He is the
General Manager of course
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of 3ABN Latino and I do
call him John on occasion,
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but I call him El Jefe
as much as I call him John.
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So, if you hear me slip
and say that it is a term
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of love and respect for
his position here at 3ABN.
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Latino he works very,
very hard, a good man,
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a good Christian and
a very good friend so
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I may slip him and
call him El Jefe. It's not,
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not a mistake because
he's my buddy that's right.
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Well, yes I'm
honored and I also call you
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Mr. Geo. So, if you
hear us slipping in to
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little Spanish,
that's alright, we're just,
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we're just practicing.
But we're excited this night
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for number of
reasons, one of them is because
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of our, our guest, it
is not often that we get
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brethren from the
General Conference to make their
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way to the cornfields
of Southern Illinois and
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to have a General Vice
President come is very,
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very special. But
Elder Pastor Armando Miranda
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is here and I'm
just having talk with him
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we see him as a
very spiritual Godly man.
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And he comes on a
mission this very night because
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as you well know the
church has moved into
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a time of emphasis on
Revival and Reformation.
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The Brethren have
selected Pastor Miranda
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to be the Chairman of
the Revival and Reformation
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committee; we'll talk
all about that and what
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that means. But it is one
of his job is to go around
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the world light
fires for the Lord of
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Revival and
Reformation, so he's coming here
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tonight to talk to us
about some of those things
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that the church is
doing. That this committee
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is doing as
together we move through
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a time of Revival and
Reformation as we draw
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closer to Christ as
we're all aware, Christ
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is coming soon. And
as the church we want
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to be ready, we want
to be working and waiting
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and doing all we can to
be refreshed and on fire
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for the Lord. And
the Brethren have tasked
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Pastor Miranda with
that and so it's good
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to have you here. It's
a privilege and an honor
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to be here Elder
C.A, yeah Praise the Lord,
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Praise the Lord.
Well, Pastor Miranda
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I've met him several
years ago but he's from
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the beautiful
country of Mexico and he,
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he also has been
blessed with the talent of
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singing that's for
the first time I saw him,
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he was singing
God's, God's praise.
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So, unfortunately he's
not able to sing during
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this program, you're
welcome to do it, if it
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comes it. If the
spirit gets high you break
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out in a song we will
join you and we praise
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the Lord for that I too
the first time I saw him.
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We went to lot of
3ABN Latino and our home
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and we've seen you singing many,
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many times and Lord
has blessed you with
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a beautiful voice
among your other talents that
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we're gonna talk
about this very night.
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Oh! It's a pleasure
to I just spend time with
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you and especially to
come together and just
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share some of the
initiatives of the
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General
Conference. Praise the Lord,
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Praise the Lord and
I feel kind of like the
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outsiders, if you guys
break into Spanish I'll
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have to get a translator
to try to keep up with
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you guys. No,
actually you do quite well,
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so I don't think
you need a translator.
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You are dangerous,
you understand and you
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speak Spanish,
he said something,
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he said you're
peligroso, peligroso.
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I wish I was as dangerous
as you think but if you
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guys are going
really fast than I,
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you will lose me so
today we got, we got to stay
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in English as possibly
as we can praise the Lord.
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Okay, we'll do it,
praise the Lord again
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we're happy to, to be
here and happy to have
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you with us. We're
gonna talk about Revival
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and Reformation, so
you may wanna take this
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moment to boot up
your computer or to get
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a pen and paper.
Because the number of things
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we're gonna be talking
about the church is doing
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something, you be
able to participate in,
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encourage your
church to participate in,
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because we wanna
do this together.
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This is not a move
that's in one little corner
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of the church or in one
little part of the world,
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this is a worldwide
movement of Revival and
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Reformation. That the
church is moving together
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in as, as we draw
closer one to another and
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closer to our Lord and
Savior Jesus Christ and
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so Pastor Miranda is
going to tell us about that.
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Before we move into
all of that stuff we wanna
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find that little bit
more about him personally
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and you know get a
little background on him,
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then we'll move into
what the church is doing.
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But I think before you
do that, John we're gonna
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have some music, we
sort of love music here at
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3ABN and looking
over what we could do and
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music that we could
use to sort of set the tone
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for what we wanna talk about,
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we chose a song by Emily
Felts Jones and of course
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she is a great
friend of this ministry,
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a great person, a
great Christian and
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she's gonna provide
that music at this time.
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In the beginning
back when it all began
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There was a cross
drawn on the master plan
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And placed in front of eternity
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The Salvation
symbol for all to see
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And there's no
way around the cross
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All history hangs on that tree.
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And the shadow
falls far and wide
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And covers humanity.
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You can choose to
ignore, but it won't go away
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It's a part of your
past, it's your future today
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'Cause there's no
way around the cross
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There is an ending
for everything that's done
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And having designed
Calvary just for one
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The fate of this
world was decided there
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Right from the
answer shines everywhere
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Because there's no
way around the cross
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All history hangs on that tree.
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And the shadow
falls far and wide
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And covers humanity
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You can choose to
ignore, but it won't go away
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It's a part of your
past; it's your future today
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'Cause there's no
way around the cross
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There's no denying
the choice we must made
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'Cause it stands at
then end Whichever road we
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take Because there's
no way around the cross
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All history hangs on that tree.
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And the shadow
falls far and wide
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And covers humanity
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We can choose to
ignore, but it won't go away
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It's a part of our
past; it's our future today
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'Cause there's no
way around the cross
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There's no way around the cross
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There's just no
way around the cross.
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Amen, well done, no way
around the cross Johnny,
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that's right, yeah.
The cross of Jesus Christ
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has changed the world, amen,
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I mean even you
know, as you know the dates
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are marked by the
time they believe Christ
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was born. So, Jesus
Christ is really by his grace
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is that we have this
time that we're life.
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Beautiful song "No
Way Around The Cross"
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well Emily Felts
Jones, a great friend of this
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ministry and just
well done. Pastor Armando
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Miranda is the
General Vice President of the
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General Conference
what does a General Vice
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President of the
General Conference do?
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It's a good question.
We do a lot of things,
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but you know we are
just apart from some
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specific
assignments from the president.
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We have a lot of others
activities but specifically
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role of Vice
Presidents is just to share,
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share committees and boards.
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And specifically some
assignations from, from
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the President and
also we have some especial,
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especial time in some
part of the world with
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the different
divisions. So, we have a lot of
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assignments, but
basically it's a administration,
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administration, I
talked, ask that question of
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another General Vice
President and his answer
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was we do what we're
told. That's true, that's true,
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the President give us
assignment that so we do,
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as we do what we're
told. Praise the Lord,
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we know that you're
born in Mexico tell us
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a little bit before we
get into the initiative
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of Revival and
Reformation about you.
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Where you grew up? Did
you work at Adventist home?
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No, I was born in the
Northern part of Mexico,
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Mexicali, Baja California
specifically and I was born
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in a Catholic
home. But at the 17,
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when I was 17 the
Lord just found me and just
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gave me the
opportunity to be transformed.
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Well, let me go back a
little bit, because when
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I was 4 years old my
family just accept the
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Adventist
message for some years.
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So, perhaps 6 years I
was just attending the church
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in the
Seventh-day Adventist church,
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but for some reason
my, my family just left
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the church. And I
grew up well the next years
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the most difficult
time in my life as teenager;
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I grew up in a difficult
environment I just learned
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to smoke and to drink
and all the bad things.
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But when I was 17
years old, the Lord just
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found me through a
friend and he invite me
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to read the Bible and
the Holy Spirit just brought
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to me to the way of
the Lord and one of the
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thing that impressed
me more it was the way
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how the young people
in the church was trying
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to do their best for
the Lord. Just to live
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a different life, total
different from those who
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are just outside
you, not knowing the Lord
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and one of the books
that he just gave me,
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it was the Great Controversy.
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And that book makes,
make that great difference
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in my life. How did you
feel, I mean you have a,
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a way of life, you
say you were smoking and
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drinking. When you
gave your life to the Lord,
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how did you feel,
you were baptized and now
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a new life in
Christ, how did you feel?
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Well, it was a 180
percent turn, turn because
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it's about just the
opposite way, my life was
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very difficult. I
wasn't a young fellow but you
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know the
environment was effecting deeply
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and just conduct
my, conducted to my life
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in a very wrong way.
So, when I just came to
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the Lord, my life
was totally changed.
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Pastor was it a
sudden change or it was kind
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of you know snap
change or did it kind
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a just work
slowly, gradual change.
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Well, it is basically
gradually, it's not easy
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but you know the Lord
just work little by little,
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oh yes, yeah. But
there were some changes,
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immediately
changes some habits and,
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some way of life yes,
yes. So, how did you go
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from accepting
the Lord Jesus Christ,
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because now we
know you as a Pastor
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serving the Lord
from many, many years,
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how did you
come to the decision.
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I think I want to
serve the Lord as a pastor,
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a minister? Well, it
was a very interesting
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experience, because I
was just thinking to be
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a doctor or to be a
lawyer. It was my, my dream,
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my goal in life.
But when I met the Lord,
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one day the local
pastor, my pastor at that time
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just invite one of
my friends to go to
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Montemorelos
University to study Etiology.
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At that time I was not baptized.
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So, I was just listening,
the way how the pastor
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was just inviting my
friend to accept opportunity
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to go to
Montemorelos University and
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suddenly just came
to my mind the idea.
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Well, it's a good
opportunity I'll like to
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go to Montemorelos
University, but my plan
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was just to
study laws or medicine.
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And when I just interrupt
the pastor and I told him,
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you know pastor I
would like to go to
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Montemorelos
University. And he said well,
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what is your plan,
are you planning to be a
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pastor or, and I
just responded no,
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I'm planning to
be lawyer or doctor.
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And he responded,
well you know this plan
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is especially for
those who are just thinking
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to be a pastor, I
just reacted and just
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a thought just came
to my mind I said well
00:17:09.15\00:17:12.98
if my life belong to
Lord. I'm going to accept
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Jesus Christ and I'm
gonna be baptized, why not?
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I would like to be a
pastor it was just suddenly.
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Wow, wow so all these
happen, you're not even
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baptized yet and
you already a pastor.
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Yes, you know this
special time just recall,
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just came to my mind
when I was a little boy,
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I admired the priest
and I went to the church
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and I just so many
times, the priest just doing
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his work. Yes, yes.
I admired that and many
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time I thought well
this is something good
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but never, never
came to my mind idea to be
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a pastor or a
priest, I admire that.
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But the Lord just
called me in that, praise God.
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I would like to ask
you a question you make
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this change, you're
get ready to be baptized
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and you're already
on track to be a pastor.
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Did your family
support you in this,
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did they follow you
or did you have to kind
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of just step out
by yourself? Well,
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I step out by myself
because it was difficult,
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they were basically
they were my enemies.
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I was struggling to
be faithful to the Lord,
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because my old friends
just rejected me and my
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family it was the most
difficult as they rejected
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me for the reason that
I just coming to the Lord.
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It was, it was a
difficult time yes, yes,
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it was time when
after some months
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I attended church. At
least twice I took the
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decision to go
back to my old life,
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but my friend, now
he is a pastor too.
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Wow, praise the God,
Pastor Victor Aispuro
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who is just now a
pastor in Texas conference.
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At that time he, we
were young fellows though,
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he always just went to,
to sit me and to try to,
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to bring me to the
church, the Lord looking for me,
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yes, yes. Now, that's
very interesting because
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you know you mention
that your parents were
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visiting the
Seventh-day Adventist church
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for a while and
now they have their son
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become
baptized, perhaps you know
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I am thinking that
perhaps they said maybe,
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maybe we should
go back to church but
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that was not the case?
It was just the opposite
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and you know I was
praying to the Lord,
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help me to be faithful
and just, I was praying
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for them and 8 years,
after 8 years praying for
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them and working
for them then I brought
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them again. Praise
God, yeah, yeah well my next
00:20:04.76\00:20:08.10
question do they ever come back,
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praise the Lord for
that. You when off to school,
00:20:11.21\00:20:14.24
you went out to
Montemorelos? Oh! Yes,
00:20:14.25\00:20:16.20
yes and study
for ministry, yeah,
00:20:16.21\00:20:18.74
praise God never
looked back I guess.
00:20:19.12\00:20:20.69
Never, never I
really enjoyed my stay there
00:20:21.21\00:20:24.93
the new
environment and my decision was
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strengthened
everyday. I had the conviction
00:20:29.55\00:20:33.45
this is God's church,
this is God's call and
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this is the way.
Amen, praise the Lord,
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by God's praise, praise the God.
00:20:40.77\00:20:41.99
Did you meet your
wife at Montemorelos?
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Not exactly, we
met in our church,
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just in the West Coast
of Mexico we attend the
00:20:49.76\00:20:54.15
same church, and we
attended the same church.
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We met there and I
went first to Montemorelos
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and two years later,
she went to Montemorelos
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too. Praise God,
praise the Lord when you came
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out of school Pastor
in Mexico or did you come
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to the states? No, I
was pastor in Mexico in
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different places,
different cities, also in the
00:21:12.07\00:21:15.07
leadership of
the church that. Now,
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you were a
Conference President 4 time.
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Yeah, well I was
Conference President
00:21:18.40\00:21:21.31
in three different
Conferences in the Northern
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part of Mexico,
Central part and Southern
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part of Mexico.
That's what I wanna ask you
00:21:25.63\00:21:27.66
about particularly your
time in the Southern part
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of Mexico, because
we got some reports
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sometimes that
things are pretty rough down
00:21:32.92\00:21:34.59
there for the church
sometimes you know what
00:21:34.60\00:21:36.07
other churches down
in the Southern part
00:21:36.08\00:21:38.93
of Mexico and yeah
they were great baptisms
00:21:38.94\00:21:40.57
and great work being down there,
00:21:40.58\00:21:42.02
talk to us just a
little bit about your work in
00:21:42.57\00:21:43.91
the Southern part of
Mexico? The Southern part
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of Mexico is wonderful
area to work for the Lord,
00:21:45.91\00:21:48.81
there are some
challenges as you mention, yes.
00:21:50.49\00:21:52.88
Because there
are some fanaticisms,
00:21:53.84\00:21:56.80
yes some areas but in
general the Southern part
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of Mexico is more
not easy, is not easy?
00:22:02.52\00:22:08.25
But the people is
more how do you say that
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is approachable, approachable,
00:22:12.28\00:22:14.29
approachable more
open to the gospel.
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And the Lord is doing
wonderful things there,
00:22:18.03\00:22:21.85
praise God. As a matter
of fact just a few weeks
00:22:21.86\00:22:26.33
ago I was just
attending a big, a big meeting
00:22:26.34\00:22:29.64
in Chiapas, just in
the border with Guatemala
00:22:30.43\00:22:34.39
and the people where
one thousand there and
00:22:35.26\00:22:38.29
just in one day, one
thousand and one hundred
00:22:38.86\00:22:41.84
and eighty people were baptized.
00:22:41.85\00:22:43.37
Praise God, praise
the Lord, 40 people,
00:22:43.38\00:22:44.82
40 pastors were
baptized under the same time.
00:22:45.68\00:22:48.21
Praise the Lord, that
is amazing, that is amazing
00:22:49.69\00:22:51.15
so the Lord is
blessing this church in Mexico
00:22:51.16\00:22:53.58
in general because
we have Mexico more than
00:22:53.59\00:22:56.55
six hundred thousand
members. Praise God and
00:22:56.56\00:22:59.44
three unions well
yeah three unions, four
00:22:59.45\00:23:02.52
unions right now.
Yeah, it's four, four unions
00:23:02.53\00:23:06.86
and I don't know how
many local fields but
00:23:07.61\00:23:09.04
we have a lot, praise
the Lord. I've just had
00:23:09.05\00:23:11.78
the privilege to
return from Mexico,
00:23:11.79\00:23:13.45
I was invited to do
a one week evangelistic
00:23:14.05\00:23:16.35
meeting in Tuxpan I'm
sure you have been there.
00:23:16.36\00:23:19.28
And wonderful
people, wonderful people and
00:23:20.24\00:23:22.41
the reason I was
invited to that particular place
00:23:23.28\00:23:25.56
is because the
Inter- Oceanic Union of the
00:23:25.57\00:23:28.22
Seventh-day
Adventist church, they say we
00:23:28.23\00:23:29.57
will send you here
because 3ABN Latino is there.
00:23:29.58\00:23:31.80
So using the fact
that, the people might be
00:23:32.57\00:23:35.34
familiar with seeing me on TV,
00:23:35.35\00:23:37.15
more people would
come and when the pastor
00:23:38.59\00:23:40.90
at the end of the week told me.
00:23:40.91\00:23:42.19
You know we have
three hundred and forty
00:23:42.80\00:23:43.77
four visitors, I said
really that's, that's an
00:23:43.78\00:23:47.10
impressive number.
So, you know it was a,
00:23:47.11\00:23:49.80
it was an auditorium
of six hundred people
00:23:49.81\00:23:51.95
eager to hear
God's word, so the people
00:23:52.75\00:23:54.58
are eager to hear
God's word and I praise
00:23:54.59\00:23:56.38
the Lord for them.
Praise God, Praise the Lord.
00:23:56.39\00:23:57.88
I know there has
been some persecution in
00:23:58.41\00:24:00.06
pastors in Chiapas
and great baptism and it
00:24:00.07\00:24:02.27
seems like where
there was great persecution,
00:24:02.28\00:24:04.30
when the spirit
takes hold there is also
00:24:04.83\00:24:05.80
great results. Oh!
Yes, yes and also you're
00:24:05.81\00:24:07.95
seeing that down
in Mexico, oh! Yeah,
00:24:07.96\00:24:09.48
yeah praise God.
Working in Mexico,
00:24:09.49\00:24:12.45
did you come from the
Mexico straight to the
00:24:13.34\00:24:15.35
General Conference or
did you pastor in the States
00:24:15.36\00:24:17.11
for a while. No, I
pastor in the States,
00:24:17.12\00:24:18.99
I was pastor in
two churches in Texas
00:24:19.62\00:24:21.49
Conference for, some
years ago when I was a
00:24:21.50\00:24:25.27
young pastor. Praise
the Lord, we were watching
00:24:25.28\00:24:29.99
John, my wife and I,
well I guess last year before
00:24:31.05\00:24:33.30
and we turn on the
television sets at 3ABN
00:24:34.21\00:24:37.64
Latino and we see
pastor Miranda singing away and
00:24:37.65\00:24:41.97
he have a little group
behind him and he's just
00:24:41.98\00:24:43.52
singing and just
doing a very, very fine job.
00:24:43.53\00:24:46.09
Now this guy could sing
a little bit, that's right,
00:24:46.10\00:24:47.82
that's right and I
guess there was a meeting
00:24:47.83\00:24:50.07
I don't know if it
was a row house, it was a
00:24:50.93\00:24:52.62
meeting yes, yes, yes
you did a lot of singing
00:24:52.63\00:24:54.72
during that time.
Oh! Yeah, I work in the
00:24:54.73\00:24:56.17
Southern part of,
South Eastern part of Mexico,
00:24:56.18\00:24:58.41
yes, yes Tabasco, yes,
yes Tabasco, good, very,
00:24:58.42\00:25:01.30
very good. And
then from there to the
00:25:01.31\00:25:04.22
General
Conference from Texas to the
00:25:04.23\00:25:05.43
General Conference?
Well, I was just working
00:25:05.44\00:25:07.72
in Texas Conference
for some years and then
00:25:07.73\00:25:10.58
I returned to
Montemorelos University,
00:25:10.59\00:25:13.52
now as a pastor of
the University church.
00:25:13.53\00:25:16.15
It was a great
privilege to, to pastoring that
00:25:17.08\00:25:21.23
church. Yeah, you
haven't gone to school there,
00:25:21.24\00:25:22.80
and enjoy there
and after that the,
00:25:22.81\00:25:25.26
at that time Northern
Mexican Union just called
00:25:26.64\00:25:28.61
me to be the
Departmental Director for youth
00:25:28.62\00:25:31.75
the Departmental
Director and after that
00:25:31.76\00:25:34.42
Union Secretary for
7 years and after that
00:25:36.11\00:25:40.16
Northern
Mexican Union President.
00:25:41.21\00:25:42.51
And then Toronto just came 2000,
00:25:43.89\00:25:47.07
the General
Conference just elected me as.
00:25:48.26\00:25:50.85
The GC Session
elected me as one of the
00:25:51.66\00:25:53.18
Vice President, one
of the Vice President,
00:25:53.19\00:25:54.55
okay praise the
Lord. So, you have been
00:25:55.13\00:25:56.10
serving as a General Conference
00:25:56.11\00:25:57.88
Vice President for
how many years you say?
00:25:57.89\00:25:59.82
Ten years, ten
years, my eleven year.
00:25:59.83\00:26:02.24
Yeah, I could tell
just that this guy somewhere
00:26:02.90\00:26:04.94
in your past
you'd been a youth man,
00:26:04.95\00:26:06.64
you just he feels
like a youth guy, you know.
00:26:07.24\00:26:09.09
Once your in a youth
working kind of stays
00:26:10.72\00:26:12.10
with you, you
know. It's wonderful,
00:26:12.11\00:26:14.39
praise the Lord, you
go with the young people
00:26:15.63\00:26:17.17
is the must precious
activity. Yeah, yeah,
00:26:17.18\00:26:20.47
wonderful activity,
yeah then this summer
00:26:20.48\00:26:23.39
Elder Wilson was
elected President of the
00:26:25.98\00:26:28.68
General
Conference. Yes, summer 2010,
00:26:28.69\00:26:30.75
summer of 2010 and
right off he set a tone as
00:26:30.76\00:26:38.05
you recall that
Sabbath full of, of, of,
00:26:38.06\00:26:42.44
of people and right
there he set atone that his
00:26:42.45\00:26:46.17
administration was
going to focus for one
00:26:46.18\00:26:52.14
of a better term
on, on Revival and
00:26:52.15\00:26:54.33
Reformation
throughout the church.
00:26:54.34\00:26:55.88
It is the sermon that
we played here on 3ABN
00:26:57.89\00:26:59.54
at least half a dozen
times. And there is a one
00:27:00.34\00:27:04.53
of the worker is here,
and she said every time
00:27:04.54\00:27:07.64
I hear that sermon I
cry, I just cry because
00:27:07.65\00:27:10.45
she felt as did a
number of us, that this was
00:27:11.21\00:27:13.07
a signal who's time had
come. And, and he follow
00:27:13.92\00:27:17.80
through on those
initiative, I was at the
00:27:17.81\00:27:19.86
General Conference
doing the Annual Council and
00:27:19.87\00:27:22.40
you of course were
there. And they selected a
00:27:23.09\00:27:26.24
committee to begin to
put some of these initiatives
00:27:26.25\00:27:30.19
into place. And the
Brethren thought it not
00:27:30.20\00:27:33.58
robbery to ask you to,
to chair that committee,
00:27:33.59\00:27:36.29
tell us a little bit
about what the committee
00:27:37.10\00:27:38.81
is and well at first
let me ask you this question
00:27:38.82\00:27:43.24
because I, first I've
been dying to ask you.
00:27:43.25\00:27:44.75
When I was at
General Conference,
00:27:46.00\00:27:46.97
I talked with my
buddy Jim Herr and
00:27:46.98\00:27:49.81
Dan Houghton was
there and the question
00:27:49.82\00:27:51.26
I asked them and I'll ask you
00:27:51.27\00:27:52.82
Revival and
Reformation is something that
00:27:56.30\00:27:58.95
needs to take hold
of the whole church,
00:27:58.96\00:28:01.21
the entire Church, yes.
We feel it's fires burning
00:28:01.22\00:28:06.45
in the local churches,
is Revival and Reformation
00:28:06.46\00:28:10.78
has it taken hold at
the General Conference at,
00:28:11.95\00:28:15.05
at the top level of
the church, at the brethren
00:28:15.06\00:28:17.38
I use this term
buying what they're selling,
00:28:18.14\00:28:20.58
do they believe in
this, this idea of Revival
00:28:21.31\00:28:24.51
and Reformation?
Very good question pastor,
00:28:24.52\00:28:27.36
you know let me just
put it that this way when
00:28:29.23\00:28:33.83
Elder Wilson just
appointed as leadership
00:28:34.33\00:28:40.45
of the Revival and
Reformation Committee
00:28:40.46\00:28:42.58
and I said appointed
as because under chair
00:28:43.36\00:28:46.23
member I had two,
two wonderful pastors
00:28:46.24\00:28:50.15
that are my
support and they are really
00:28:51.09\00:28:53.86
wonderful people,
God's men. And I referring
00:28:53.87\00:28:58.19
to Mark Finley and
Jerry Page, Mark Finley
00:28:58.20\00:29:02.43
you know very well
him, now he's retired but
00:29:02.44\00:29:07.11
at the same time he's working.
00:29:07.12\00:29:08.26
Yes, he's one of
the Assistant to the
00:29:08.27\00:29:11.22
President, yes, yes
and Jerry Page is the
00:29:11.23\00:29:14.84
General Conference
Ministerial Secretary.
00:29:15.68\00:29:18.78
He's been here
several times, yeah we know.
00:29:18.79\00:29:20.42
So, these two men
are a wonderful example
00:29:20.94\00:29:25.30
of Godly people,
amen, so when we were just
00:29:26.59\00:29:30.39
appointed as the
leadership of the Revival
00:29:30.40\00:29:34.12
and Reformation Committee.
00:29:34.13\00:29:35.34
The first thing we
just did, it was just to
00:29:36.27\00:29:39.26
have a special
meeting the three of us
00:29:40.31\00:29:42.46
and we just spend first
of all the time searching
00:29:43.65\00:29:48.38
the scripture,
reading the Bible,
00:29:48.39\00:29:50.03
seeking the Lord in
special way and then
00:29:50.80\00:29:53.22
we spend almost
45 minutes in prayer
00:29:53.23\00:29:58.24
with Emily, praying
and praying and praying
00:29:59.14\00:30:01.97
and let me tell you
that it was a wonderful
00:30:02.86\00:30:06.21
and unique experience for me.
00:30:06.22\00:30:08.61
I was just telling
John this morning that for
00:30:09.82\00:30:13.60
many years I was
just practicing something
00:30:13.61\00:30:18.06
that is very
important when I just read
00:30:18.07\00:30:21.02
in the, the book
Desires of Ages in
00:30:21.03\00:30:25.40
English it's page
83 and the advice there
00:30:25.41\00:30:28.91
is that we is good
for us to spend, spend
00:30:28.92\00:30:34.05
at least one hour
daily and contemplating
00:30:34.06\00:30:37.54
the life of Jesus
Christ. And I just took that in
00:30:37.55\00:30:42.28
special way for me
because I meet the Lord,
00:30:42.29\00:30:45.00
so everyday I used to
spend at least one hour
00:30:45.01\00:30:48.04
very early in the
morning. Just seeking the Lord
00:30:48.05\00:30:53.26
studying the
life of Jesus Christ,
00:30:53.27\00:30:55.19
but something
special happened when I met
00:30:55.20\00:31:00.52
with Mark and Jerry
and we spend together
00:31:00.53\00:31:04.51
45 minutes
praying, it was amazing
00:31:04.52\00:31:07.71
how the Lord
impress us and how the Lord
00:31:07.72\00:31:09.70
just came to us. Not
because we are better
00:31:09.71\00:31:13.26
than all other
people, sinners but, but God's
00:31:13.27\00:31:17.37
grace the Lord
just came to us and
00:31:17.38\00:31:21.28
we finish that we'd
ended up just praising
00:31:21.29\00:31:23.66
the Lord that
occasion and then some ideas
00:31:23.67\00:31:26.51
just came to our
minds and we started to,
00:31:26.52\00:31:29.50
to work in some initiatives.
And then next step just
00:31:29.51\00:31:33.68
was to, to go to
the three, the three GC
00:31:33.69\00:31:39.79
officers and Elder
Wilson that the President,
00:31:39.80\00:31:42.88
Elder GT the
ex-secretary and Elder Lemon
00:31:42.89\00:31:47.66
the treasurer. So
we went together and
00:31:47.67\00:31:53.30
we spend one hour
studying the Bible
00:31:53.31\00:31:56.22
and praying together
and again the Holy Spirit
00:31:56.23\00:32:00.30
just came to us and
impress our, our life
00:32:00.31\00:32:03.87
and I remember that
occasion we were just,
00:32:03.88\00:32:07.71
just weeping,
crying because the Lord was
00:32:07.72\00:32:14.31
great and he was
doing something special
00:32:14.32\00:32:17.88
in our lives. And
Elder Wilson just conclude
00:32:17.89\00:32:22.14
that occasion
saying you know we had
00:32:22.15\00:32:24.43
to do this and he
each of the committee
00:32:24.44\00:32:27.37
meetings, before
we go to the business
00:32:27.38\00:32:30.02
of the church this
is the most import thing
00:32:30.03\00:32:32.28
we need to do. So, he
called the Vice Presidents,
00:32:32.29\00:32:37.58
the group of the Vice Presidents
00:32:37.59\00:32:39.24
and the other
Officers and we call that
00:32:39.25\00:32:43.00
group adcom the
Administrative Committee
00:32:43.01\00:32:46.92
of the General Conference and
00:32:46.93\00:32:48.88
we spend time in
doing the same and again
00:32:48.89\00:32:52.20
the same
experience and after that GCLC
00:32:52.21\00:32:55.93
that just in compose
the rest of the personnel
00:32:55.94\00:32:59.89
and the General Conference,
00:32:59.90\00:33:01.73
the Departmental
Directors, the associates,
00:33:01.74\00:33:05.62
all the Officers and
it was amazing how the
00:33:05.63\00:33:10.13
Lord just guide us to
the process of seeking
00:33:10.14\00:33:13.31
him and, and just
looking for something
00:33:13.32\00:33:16.16
special for the
Holy Spirit. I remember
00:33:16.17\00:33:19.13
I was just starting
the meeting, when I just
00:33:19.14\00:33:22.79
starting to speak
about that, I was watch the
00:33:22.80\00:33:29.50
faces of the
Director, the Departmental
00:33:29.51\00:33:34.13
Directors and
the people there and
00:33:34.14\00:33:37.33
I saw in some of
them a little bit surprise
00:33:37.34\00:33:42.63
like thinking what,
what is happening here.
00:33:42.64\00:33:46.48
Everybody here just
took time in their homes
00:33:46.49\00:33:51.65
to study the Bible
to have an encounter
00:33:51.66\00:33:54.04
with God and why we are spending
00:33:54.05\00:33:57.18
a lot of time in
this; these is importable
00:33:57.19\00:33:59.78
lets prayer and
let's do it the work of
00:33:59.79\00:34:02.23
the Church. Yeah,
at the end of the day,
00:34:02.24\00:34:04.73
this is God's
business I'll just have the
00:34:04.74\00:34:08.56
perception because of
that reaction of those
00:34:08.57\00:34:12.02
who were there, yeah.
But a few minutes later
00:34:12.03\00:34:16.36
and as soon as we
just started to prayer
00:34:16.37\00:34:19.02
and to sing and
to share some thought
00:34:19.03\00:34:24.44
of the Bible, something happen.
00:34:24.45\00:34:27.05
And it was
difficult to, to stop praying,
00:34:27.06\00:34:31.12
we were praying
and praying and praying
00:34:31.13\00:34:33.95
and praying, it
was something unusual.
00:34:33.96\00:34:37.15
So at the end of
that meeting the Lord
00:34:37.16\00:34:40.92
manifests his power, amen.
00:34:40.93\00:34:43.13
And from then we,
we went to the prayer
00:34:43.14\00:34:47.92
meetings before
the Annual Council
00:34:47.93\00:34:50.07
and during the
prayer meetings exactly
00:34:50.08\00:34:53.75
the same experience and then the
00:34:53.76\00:34:57.15
Annual Council just
arrive. We just prepare
00:34:57.16\00:35:00.74
some of the initiatives
and when the Elder Wilson
00:35:00.75\00:35:04.92
just called the
people to spend more time
00:35:04.93\00:35:08.24
in seeking the Lord
and praying together
00:35:08.25\00:35:11.54
and having time for testimonies.
00:35:11.55\00:35:13.85
It was amazing how
the Spirit of the Lord
00:35:13.86\00:35:17.63
was manifested there,
praise God and we just
00:35:17.64\00:35:21.88
interrupt that time
of Annual Council with
00:35:21.89\00:35:25.99
some very important
initiative, but let me
00:35:26.00\00:35:30.34
tell you the Lord
is blessing the church
00:35:30.35\00:35:34.24
everywhere. And the
leaders of the church
00:35:34.25\00:35:36.62
in the past, they
did excellent work
00:35:36.63\00:35:41.34
and the Lord
blessed their efforts and
00:35:41.35\00:35:44.64
we had great
leaders in the church.
00:35:44.65\00:35:46.48
But let me tell
you that I've been just
00:35:46.49\00:35:50.64
attending the GC
business meeting the
00:35:50.65\00:35:54.76
Annual Council for
17 years as first of all
00:35:54.77\00:35:58.92
as Union President
and after for 10 years as
00:35:58.93\00:36:03.38
Vice President. But
every time the Lord blessed
00:36:03.39\00:36:09.16
the meetings and
we, we felt the presence
00:36:09.17\00:36:11.98
of the Lord, but
this Annual Council 2010.
00:36:11.99\00:36:15.44
When we just go
through the appeal document
00:36:15.45\00:36:22.34
and the initiatives on
Revival and Reformation,
00:36:22.35\00:36:24.93
yes, it was
something, something really
00:36:24.94\00:36:28.70
wonderful yeah,
yeah unique, yeah.
00:36:28.71\00:36:31.75
And I don't wanted
to just place emphasis
00:36:31.76\00:36:34.55
I was there on that
Tuesday and Wednesday
00:36:34.56\00:36:36.74
when it ended, the
tears, the confession,
00:36:36.75\00:36:39.30
some of the testimonies
and this is not to say
00:36:39.31\00:36:42.30
that, that the
brethren we're not doing the
00:36:42.31\00:36:45.60
work of the Lord
before. I mean, in excellent
00:36:45.61\00:36:48.55
work, but they are
develop routine and,
00:36:48.56\00:36:51.29
and, and I heard a
division leader say man
00:36:51.30\00:36:55.82
I get up I have my
little prayer and I go
00:36:55.83\00:36:57.82
on do the
business of the church,
00:36:57.83\00:36:58.99
I just and I do the
business of the church
00:36:59.00\00:37:00.64
and so the brethren
had develop this idea.
00:37:00.65\00:37:03.20
We have church
business do lets have
00:37:03.21\00:37:05.11
our prayer and get
to it, but, but, but
00:37:05.12\00:37:08.02
Ted was saying, the
committee was saying,
00:37:08.03\00:37:10.59
we need to do more
than just a little prayer
00:37:10.60\00:37:13.93
and go to business,
right. We need to spend time
00:37:13.94\00:37:15.93
seeking the Lord and
a lot of confession was
00:37:15.94\00:37:18.64
I'm not praying
enough, I'm not talking to the
00:37:18.65\00:37:21.68
Lord enough. We
need, we need more prayer,
00:37:21.69\00:37:23.97
we need more
prayer and obviously the
00:37:23.98\00:37:27.60
results were that
with us emphasis on
00:37:27.61\00:37:30.22
drawing closer to the Lord.
00:37:30.23\00:37:31.55
The meetings went
better and the power
00:37:31.56\00:37:33.85
of the Lord was
manifested in these
00:37:33.86\00:37:35.33
meetings. Oh! Yes,
yeah. I guess I'm wondering
00:37:35.34\00:37:38.60
it by the way we
were, we're talking here
00:37:38.61\00:37:40.32
that you know prayer
is part of the meeting
00:37:40.33\00:37:43.70
process. So, does
it become then part of
00:37:43.71\00:37:47.37
the business just
to pray oh! We must
00:37:47.38\00:37:49.35
pray because it's
part of the business
00:37:49.36\00:37:51.62
process to pray before we are.
00:37:51.63\00:37:53.38
Yeah, so does it
become that for some people
00:37:53.39\00:37:56.02
and you know what
you're describing here
00:37:56.03\00:37:59.47
is apparently the
opening of the heart
00:37:59.48\00:38:03.08
for the Lord to
begin to work, right.
00:38:03.09\00:38:06.27
And to really begin
a process of Revival
00:38:06.28\00:38:11.01
and Reformation.
In order for that
00:38:11.02\00:38:13.52
so happen there must be humbling
00:38:13.53\00:38:14.85
because you know we
have in what is that First
00:38:14.86\00:38:17.78
or Second Chronicles
chapter 7: If my people,
00:38:17.79\00:38:20.61
which are called by
my name, shall humble
00:38:20.62\00:38:23.43
themselves and pray,
yeah, then I will hear
00:38:23.44\00:38:25.98
from Heaven, yes.
So, there must be that
00:38:25.99\00:38:28.16
process of humbling
and coming to the Lord
00:38:28.17\00:38:30.23
and confessing our
sins, opening our hearts
00:38:30.24\00:38:32.53
to the Lord. So,
I'm, I'm gathering from
00:38:32.54\00:38:34.81
what you're saying
that, that's what was
00:38:34.82\00:38:36.71
begin to take place
in some of these meetings
00:38:36.72\00:38:38.52
alright. And let
me tell you because of
00:38:38.53\00:38:40.76
your question,
your original question
00:38:40.77\00:38:42.97
we went far away from
your original question.
00:38:42.98\00:38:46.32
The people in the
General Conference this staff
00:38:46.33\00:38:49.36
and the elected personnel.
00:38:49.37\00:38:51.70
Everybody is just
accepting the call to be,
00:38:51.71\00:38:57.31
to seek the Lord in
a special way, amen.
00:38:57.32\00:38:59.42
To be revived, to be reformed,
00:38:59.43\00:39:02.19
to do something
for the Lord, more than
00:39:02.20\00:39:04.82
that usual way how
we, we did in, yes,
00:39:04.83\00:39:08.39
yes anyways, yes.
So, let me tell you that
00:39:08.40\00:39:11.27
I had the
privilege to be the Chair
00:39:11.28\00:39:12.85
of the Worship
Committee, the Worship
00:39:12.86\00:39:14.91
Committee in the GC
building is in-charge to
00:39:14.92\00:39:18.67
promote the spirit of
life and just among the,
00:39:18.68\00:39:23.46
the personnel staff
and elected personnel
00:39:23.47\00:39:27.07
and we have
everyday our morning worship,
00:39:27.08\00:39:31.06
also we organized
the week of prayer.
00:39:31.07\00:39:34.58
But now we are
doing a little bit more,
00:39:34.59\00:39:39.95
the worship
committee has just developed,
00:39:39.96\00:39:44.97
it's developing a
plan to have more, more
00:39:44.98\00:39:51.00
interaction with our
people inside the building
00:39:51.01\00:39:55.44
and we have
wonderful people doing the
00:39:55.45\00:39:59.92
developing some
of these strategies.
00:39:59.93\00:40:01.63
We have a group
of young people that
00:40:01.64\00:40:05.65
three times a day,
they, they have meeting
00:40:05.66\00:40:11.00
especially for
prayer just at 10 O'clock
00:40:11.01\00:40:15.16
in the morning.
They set apart sometime,
00:40:15.17\00:40:18.35
there are three
groups of young people
00:40:18.36\00:40:21.93
and then we have a
12:30 everyday the chapel.
00:40:21.94\00:40:26.16
Time for everybody, not
a lot of people standing
00:40:26.17\00:40:30.26
usually but at 3
O'clock we have the young
00:40:30.27\00:40:36.83
people again meeting
for prayer, praise God.
00:40:36.84\00:40:40.34
But not only that
now they are expanding
00:40:40.35\00:40:44.68
their work and
just seeking others
00:40:44.69\00:40:48.12
and everybody is trying
to do something for God,
00:40:48.13\00:40:52.07
amen, and, and
just trying to inspire
00:40:52.08\00:40:54.68
and to do their
best for the Lord.
00:40:54.69\00:40:57.75
So, it's
wonderful to experience,
00:40:57.76\00:41:00.43
everybody is trying
to, to catch the spirit to,
00:41:00.44\00:41:04.11
to be revived
and to do something.
00:41:04.12\00:41:06.37
One of the
things that, that Johnny
00:41:06.38\00:41:08.67
and I were talking
about and the reason I,
00:41:08.68\00:41:10.24
I asked that
question is because it appears
00:41:10.25\00:41:13.47
to me I mean when
I was down there the
00:41:13.48\00:41:15.78
question I asked
Jim and we were talking
00:41:15.79\00:41:17.38
and Dan Houghton
came to the table also.
00:41:17.39\00:41:18.92
You Brethren do
the work of the church
00:41:18.93\00:41:24.31
everyday, you're
doing church work every
00:41:24.32\00:41:26.57
single day and it,
it occurred to me that
00:41:26.58\00:41:29.46
we didn't want this
is to be just another
00:41:29.47\00:41:32.47
program coming from
the General Conference.
00:41:32.48\00:41:34.85
Just another initiative
coming from the General
00:41:34.86\00:41:37.30
Conference, but a
real move of God in the
00:41:37.31\00:41:40.63
church, amen, and,
and Jim and I was saying
00:41:40.64\00:41:42.95
hey if, if Jim said to
me if, if, if we can get
00:41:42.96\00:41:47.25
this fire lit in
this building and get this
00:41:47.26\00:41:50.80
brethren who do
church work everyday
00:41:50.81\00:41:52.82
to see need of drawing closer.
00:41:52.83\00:41:55.14
And doing more consecrated then
00:41:55.15\00:41:57.36
that fire will
spread throughout all of the
00:41:57.37\00:41:59.73
Adventism and, and,
and his statement was this
00:41:59.74\00:42:03.28
is the real deal.
Amen. Truly the Church has
00:42:03.29\00:42:07.83
seen the need for
and has a desire for
00:42:07.84\00:42:10.18
Revival and Reformation
and obviously you feel
00:42:10.19\00:42:12.90
that also. Yes,
we feel in that way,
00:42:12.91\00:42:15.90
we praise the Lord
for that, praise God,
00:42:15.91\00:42:17.86
praise God, we
praise God for that.
00:42:17.87\00:42:19.39
I want to say just
a moment before we,
00:42:19.40\00:42:20.74
we go on because we
do have a free offer
00:42:20.75\00:42:23.48
for the evening and
we haven't had a chance
00:42:23.49\00:42:25.49
to talk about this
yet. The free offer for the
00:42:25.50\00:42:28.68
evening is this small
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00:42:28.69\00:42:31.52
Doug Batchelor
called 12 Steps to Revival,
00:42:31.53\00:42:35.30
that is 12 Steps to
Revival and we would love
00:42:35.31\00:42:39.36
to send this to you,
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00:42:39.37\00:42:41.18
you can put in your
pocket or that you can
00:42:41.19\00:42:43.63
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00:42:46.55\00:42:49.34
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00:42:57.25\00:43:00.78
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00:43:00.79\00:43:05.79
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00:43:05.80\00:43:08.02
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00:43:08.03\00:43:10.24
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00:43:10.25\00:43:13.39
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00:43:13.40\00:43:15.00
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00:43:15.01\00:43:16.90
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00:43:16.91\00:43:21.20
should you make contact with us.
00:43:21.21\00:43:23.57
Pastor we've
talked about the committee
00:43:23.58\00:43:27.40
that you are privileged to chair
00:43:27.41\00:43:29.83
and you have two
Vice Chairmen talk about
00:43:29.84\00:43:31.42
the other members
who on the committee
00:43:31.43\00:43:32.80
and the lets move
into some of these
00:43:32.81\00:43:34.18
initiatives because
there is a lot of thing
00:43:34.19\00:43:35.70
that you're doing.
That you wanna should be
00:43:35.71\00:43:38.81
aware of. You
know, we started with
00:43:38.82\00:43:40.54
14 people as
member of the Revival and
00:43:40.55\00:43:43.33
Reformation Committee,
but as soon the people
00:43:43.34\00:43:45.91
just learned that
we have this committee
00:43:45.92\00:43:49.54
and we have spend
every time, a lot of
00:43:49.55\00:43:54.79
time praying and
studying the Bible.
00:43:54.80\00:43:58.07
And when they notice
that something special
00:43:58.08\00:44:02.76
was happening, a lot
of people just requested
00:44:02.77\00:44:06.63
to be member of that committee.
00:44:06.64\00:44:08.16
That's we have,
how, when brethren are
00:44:08.17\00:44:12.20
asking you to be on
the committee who were
00:44:12.21\00:44:14.00
on the committee, a
lot of time when they
00:44:14.01\00:44:15.19
ask you to be on the committee,
00:44:15.20\00:44:16.17
that's a move of God,
that's, that's God think,
00:44:16.18\00:44:18.48
oh! Yes. We
usually have the whole day
00:44:18.49\00:44:22.48
for the committee
from 9 to 5 and we had
00:44:22.49\00:44:26.83
just only one, one
hour for lunch time and we,
00:44:26.84\00:44:32.31
we had lot of time
of prayer, praise God.
00:44:32.32\00:44:35.44
A lot of time and
it's something really
00:44:35.45\00:44:38.62
wonderful the presence of
00:44:38.63\00:44:41.38
the Lord is
manifested their, so when
00:44:41.39\00:44:43.78
they learned that
something is happening,
00:44:43.79\00:44:47.05
was happening, some of them just
00:44:47.06\00:44:49.82
requested to be
member. Now we have 40 people,
00:44:49.83\00:44:52.00
from 14 to 40,
praise the Lord, 14 to 40
00:44:52.01\00:44:55.39
praise God. Well we
praise the Lord for that,
00:44:55.40\00:44:58.25
because each one
of them are wonderful
00:44:58.26\00:45:01.10
people, we have
people like Jim Meyers,
00:45:01.11\00:45:03.57
we have one of
the doctor of the law,
00:45:03.58\00:45:11.51
from BRI Clinton
Wahlen, also we have
00:45:11.52\00:45:19.56
Ganoune Diop, yes, yes, yes.
00:45:19.57\00:45:22.90
And from
Adventist review we have
00:45:22.91\00:45:26.59
Bill Knott, Bill
Knott, well William Costa,
00:45:26.60\00:45:33.46
we have a lot
people, each one of them
00:45:33.47\00:45:36.04
very committed
to the Lord and also
00:45:36.05\00:45:37.98
we have few well some
young people praise God.
00:45:37.99\00:45:42.46
Pastors, young
pastors and also we have lay
00:45:42.47\00:45:47.42
representatives and
they are young people,
00:45:47.43\00:45:50.97
praise the Lord and
you mention Dan Houghton,
00:45:50.98\00:45:54.55
Houghton he is
doing a wonderful work
00:45:54.56\00:45:58.47
for the Lord.
He's the key person
00:45:58.48\00:46:01.04
in the area of the
website and all these
00:46:01.05\00:46:06.07
kind of technology,
yes, yes it's amazing
00:46:06.08\00:46:08.58
how the Lord is using
him and rest of the people.
00:46:08.59\00:46:11.12
We are just amazed,
praise God, gift they have.
00:46:11.13\00:46:15.50
Speaking a websites
in previous conversation
00:46:15.51\00:46:18.60
with Pastor Miranda,
there is a website for,
00:46:18.61\00:46:21.69
Revival, this initiative
Revival and Reformation.
00:46:21.70\00:46:25.78
Can you talk to
us about the website
00:46:25.79\00:46:27.52
and we would like to
know what the website is,
00:46:27.53\00:46:29.82
I already know it
because I want to see it.
00:46:29.83\00:46:31.35
And there are lot of
wonderful things there,
00:46:31.36\00:46:35.27
but can you tell us
about the website and
00:46:35.28\00:46:38.82
what the website is,
that way we can before
00:46:38.83\00:46:41.00
this hour is over at
least we have some people
00:46:41.01\00:46:42.82
already with that information.
00:46:42.83\00:46:44.12
Yeah, yeah,
Revival and Reformation has
00:46:44.13\00:46:47.43
taking advantage
of the technology,
00:46:47.44\00:46:50.17
we are aware that
the present time a
00:46:50.18\00:46:56.37
lot of people,
millions of people
00:46:56.38\00:46:58.29
everywhere are engaged in just
00:46:58.30\00:47:01.24
searching something in the web.
00:47:01.25\00:47:04.14
And we, we have
developed the website
00:47:04.15\00:47:08.54
RevivalandReformation.org
and you can find in that
00:47:08.55\00:47:13.78
website a lot of
wonderful material.
00:47:14.14\00:47:17.71
We have the,
the appeal document,
00:47:18.45\00:47:20.24
we have devotionals on
Revival and Reformation.
00:47:20.93\00:47:25.03
We have wonderful preachers like
00:47:25.69\00:47:28.47
Dwight Nelson,
pioneer memorial at
00:47:33.19\00:47:35.65
Andrews University, we
have Pastor Jose Rojas,
00:47:36.25\00:47:42.57
we have well I don't
remember except to the
00:47:43.65\00:47:46.17
name of. I saw some
name that maybe familiar
00:47:46.18\00:47:49.58
to some people,
because he's written some
00:47:49.59\00:47:50.88
books recently Norman
Gulley, I saw apparently
00:47:50.89\00:47:54.21
an article there, many
articles and some audio
00:47:54.22\00:47:58.33
sermons for people
to hear and some videos
00:47:58.34\00:48:00.42
as well. Yes, a lot
of people not only videos
00:48:00.43\00:48:04.64
but also we have
some material that you can
00:48:04.65\00:48:08.25
print and like our
prayer you know different
00:48:08.26\00:48:12.02
models ways how
you can just prayer
00:48:12.03\00:48:14.52
and all some ideas
how to organize the,
00:48:14.99\00:48:18.42
the Revival and
Reformation initiative
00:48:18.43\00:48:22.00
in your church and
also we have some material
00:48:22.01\00:48:27.10
in regard the Bible study.
00:48:27.11\00:48:30.10
So, it's rich
website so one of the,
00:48:31.31\00:48:36.08
one of the
activities of your committee
00:48:36.09\00:48:38.25
is to plan
activities for churches,
00:48:38.57\00:48:41.04
church members to
involve themselves in to,
00:48:41.05\00:48:43.52
to store Revival
and Reformation in their
00:48:43.53\00:48:45.97
local churches at
homes. Yes, but you know
00:48:45.98\00:48:49.04
we wanna take time
to, to go one by one
00:48:49.05\00:48:52.25
of the initiative
that we have this is
00:48:52.86\00:48:54.92
important to, to
let the people know that
00:48:54.93\00:48:58.50
this is the,
initiative of prayer,
00:48:58.51\00:49:00.92
this is
initiative in fasting prayer.
00:49:00.93\00:49:03.45
So, there are
lots of good thing that
00:49:03.95\00:49:06.04
we're gonna talk
about, praise the Lord,
00:49:06.05\00:49:07.49
praise the Lord. Now,
in our second half coming
00:49:07.50\00:49:10.80
should you hear something that,
00:49:11.18\00:49:12.66
that spurs a question
in your mind or you have
00:49:12.67\00:49:15.64
a comment to make about Revival
00:49:15.65\00:49:17.26
and Reformation
in your own life,
00:49:17.27\00:49:18.62
in your own church,
in your own community
00:49:18.63\00:49:19.92
contact us this
night to as you can do so
00:49:20.51\00:49:22.76
forth you can write us at lets
00:49:22.77\00:49:27.07
live@3abn.org thank you El Jefe.
00:49:27.08\00:49:31.45
I appreciate that
and or contact us at
00:49:31.46\00:49:36.70
618-627-4651 I have
an mental block here
00:49:36.71\00:49:41.26
618-627-4651 and
leave your question
00:49:41.27\00:49:45.31
and comment we'll
try to get to some
00:49:45.32\00:49:46.38
of those in this
second half live@3abn.org
00:49:46.39\00:49:50.26
you can email us
there and also questions,
00:49:51.04\00:49:54.85
comments you may
want to ask our Pastor
00:49:54.86\00:49:57.19
Miranda question or
have a comment on Revival
00:49:57.20\00:49:59.23
and Reformation or
perhaps you praise God
00:49:59.24\00:50:02.43
have seeing Revival
and Reformation come alive
00:50:02.44\00:50:04.79
in your own life,
for in your own church
00:50:04.80\00:50:06.19
we like to know
about that tonight.
00:50:06.20\00:50:07.38
That's a great idea, I
like that, I think we should,
00:50:07.39\00:50:10.16
our viewer should
call and see how the Lord
00:50:10.17\00:50:12.58
has blessed them with
Revival and Reformation
00:50:12.59\00:50:14.78
in your own lives and
what changes have taken place,
00:50:14.79\00:50:17.72
yeah, since they. I
like that particularly
00:50:17.73\00:50:19.92
if you have seen
Revival and Reformation come
00:50:20.30\00:50:23.97
alive in your own
life or in your own church.
00:50:23.98\00:50:25.87
We would like to
know that live@3abn.org,
00:50:26.35\00:50:29.52
live@3abn.org or 618-627-4651
00:50:29.53\00:50:34.55
and we will glad to take those
00:50:34.91\00:50:35.91
comments in this second half.
00:50:35.92\00:50:36.99
Yeah, yeah and I
think is very great that
00:50:37.00\00:50:39.90
you committee has
grown from 14 to 40,
00:50:39.91\00:50:42.57
that does be speak a
move of the Lord Johnny,
00:50:42.58\00:50:45.13
yes in the General
Conference Building.
00:50:45.14\00:50:48.23
Yeah, and let me
tell you that we have
00:50:48.90\00:50:51.03
an H division, a
committee doing Revival
00:50:51.04\00:50:55.11
and Reformation and
they have a coordinator
00:50:55.12\00:50:58.25
for that and they
are doing excellent work.
00:50:58.26\00:51:01.53
We're gonna talk
about that later,
00:51:02.29\00:51:04.62
but it's amazing
how the Lord is moving
00:51:05.04\00:51:06.93
everywhere, praise
the God, praise the God.
00:51:07.37\00:51:08.56
So, that's now we
have some divisions
00:51:08.57\00:51:12.42
I said division, but
areas of the world that
00:51:13.07\00:51:14.74
are particularly
secular, particularly resistant
00:51:14.75\00:51:17.03
to the gospel, are you
finding that even in this,
00:51:17.04\00:51:19.77
I'll say tough areas
that Revival is beginning
00:51:20.18\00:51:23.45
to break out that
the spirit is moving
00:51:23.46\00:51:24.97
and these things
are begin to take hold
00:51:24.98\00:51:26.39
there also? Oh! Yes,
the Lord is doing great
00:51:26.40\00:51:30.99
things even in the
difficult or tough areas
00:51:31.00\00:51:34.53
of the world, for
example I had the privilege to,
00:51:34.54\00:51:37.39
to promote Revival
and Reformation in your
00:51:37.86\00:51:42.60
Africa Division we
have some countries there
00:51:42.61\00:51:48.02
that are difficult
to, to reach like Germany,
00:51:48.03\00:51:51.70
like France, Switzerland,
Portugal, Spain, Italy,
00:51:52.09\00:51:56.87
it's a tough area for
the preaching of the gospel,
00:51:58.21\00:52:00.99
yes. And our leaders
there are doing excellent,
00:52:01.00\00:52:03.52
each one of them
are committed people,
00:52:04.03\00:52:06.15
but we recognize
that there are some areas
00:52:06.52\00:52:08.36
of the world that is not easy.
00:52:08.37\00:52:10.50
But the Lord is
doing something great,
00:52:12.39\00:52:14.20
because when we just
launch these initiatives
00:52:14.54\00:52:18.86
and the year meetings
of the your Africa Division
00:52:19.28\00:52:22.75
the same
experience that we just had in
00:52:23.98\00:52:27.98
the General Conference
during the Annual Council,
00:52:27.99\00:52:31.19
is exactly the
same in that section
00:52:31.94\00:52:35.35
of the world. And not only there
00:52:35.36\00:52:37.38
Trans-European Division
another difficult section
00:52:38.05\00:52:41.69
they are dealing
with the lot of secularism
00:52:43.30\00:52:45.59
and all kind of isms,
it's really difficult, yes.
00:52:46.16\00:52:50.76
and do You know
Trans-European Division
00:52:50.77\00:52:52.58
comprehend
Norway, Holland, Denmark;
00:52:52.59\00:52:57.74
yeah these are secular areas,
00:52:57.75\00:52:59.22
yeah very, very secular areas.
00:52:59.23\00:53:00.83
Sweden, yes,
Iceland very tough areas.
00:53:00.84\00:53:05.44
You know I remember
at one time since you're
00:53:05.45\00:53:07.78
mentioning
these areas and it was
00:53:07.79\00:53:09.60
somewhere in Europe
there was a one of the
00:53:09.61\00:53:12.07
Conference Presidents
was there, Gulley and I
00:53:12.62\00:53:15.25
happen to be there in
the meeting, it was a meeting
00:53:15.26\00:53:19.36
about across cultural,
trying to reach people of
00:53:19.37\00:53:22.50
different cultures
and each during, each hour
00:53:22.51\00:53:25.66
there was a time for prayer,
00:53:25.67\00:53:26.72
they took place even
then. But I remember one
00:53:26.73\00:53:29.51
you know there was
time for also petitions
00:53:29.93\00:53:32.49
for prayer, before
we prayed. And there was
00:53:32.98\00:53:36.03
one Conference
President that you can see
00:53:36.04\00:53:37.90
his heart breaking.
Because he said pray
00:53:37.91\00:53:41.49
for our Conference in
and he mentions the country.
00:53:41.50\00:53:45.43
He said secularism
has come in and is hurting
00:53:46.85\00:53:51.13
us and it's just,
it's a real problem, yeah.
00:53:51.14\00:53:55.44
So, this is a way
by which their problem
00:53:55.45\00:53:59.84
can be solved when God's people
00:53:59.85\00:54:02.06
go to the Lord in
prayer. You know we have from
00:54:02.71\00:54:05.73
the Lord and in one of
the text, Bible text that
00:54:05.74\00:54:09.00
we're like to share
with, with the public and with
00:54:09.01\00:54:11.72
you is Matthew 28:18
to 20, that Bible passage
00:54:11.73\00:54:19.23
it's really
powerful and it says that:
00:54:19.24\00:54:23.72
the Jesus came and
spoke to them, saying,
00:54:23.73\00:54:28.11
All authority has
been given to me in heaven
00:54:28.12\00:54:31.81
and on earth. God
therefore and make
00:54:32.40\00:54:36.02
disciples of all the
nations, baptizing them
00:54:36.03\00:54:41.02
in the name of the
Father and of the Son and of the
00:54:41.41\00:54:44.57
Holy Spirit, yes, so
teaching them to observe
00:54:44.58\00:54:48.55
all things that I
have commanded you; and lo,
00:54:48.56\00:54:51.29
I am with you always,
even to end of the age.
00:54:51.30\00:54:55.25
Amen. Amen you know
the, the great need that we
00:54:55.26\00:55:01.88
have is just to be
instruments in God's
00:55:01.89\00:55:06.51
hands, we have a
huge challenge to
00:55:06.52\00:55:12.03
fulfill the mission,
the command of the Lord,
00:55:12.04\00:55:16.15
to go and preach we
have nothing to offer
00:55:17.18\00:55:20.74
from our own life
because we are sinners.
00:55:21.21\00:55:24.93
We don't have the
power, we don't have the means,
00:55:25.37\00:55:29.04
we don't have nothing
that can just enable us to,
00:55:29.47\00:55:34.58
to face this big challenge.
The only way is just to
00:55:35.18\00:55:40.59
request the Lord, to
seek the Lord, yes for the
00:55:41.29\00:55:44.93
power. He has the
power, amen, he has the power
00:55:44.94\00:55:48.12
and he promised to
be with us, even at the
00:55:48.40\00:55:51.57
end of the age, yes,
yes. And there is another,
00:55:51.58\00:55:53.81
another passage it's
found in Acts chapter 1
00:55:53.82\00:55:58.76
in verse 8 and this
passage say: But you shall
00:55:58.77\00:56:02.62
receive power when
the Holy Spirit has come
00:56:02.63\00:56:05.17
upon you; and you
shall be witnesses to Me
00:56:05.18\00:56:08.03
in Jerusalem, and in
all Judea and Samaria,
00:56:08.04\00:56:11.76
and to the end of the
earth. You can just see
00:56:12.12\00:56:16.00
the Lord just gave the
command, but at the same
00:56:16.01\00:56:20.83
time he just empower
us and tell us the way how
00:56:20.84\00:56:27.15
we can accomplish
to preach the gospel.
00:56:27.16\00:56:31.79
Just only by the
power of the Holy Spirit,
00:56:32.65\00:56:35.10
praise God,
praise God, amen, yeah.
00:56:35.11\00:56:36.98
When we just look for
the Lord, we seek the Lord
00:56:36.99\00:56:39.92
everything is different
the Lord is just the way
00:56:40.43\00:56:44.20
how he is going to
finish the work, praise God.
00:56:44.21\00:56:47.27
And we are seeking the
Lord and we are praying
00:56:47.28\00:56:50.16
for the outpouring of
the Holy Spirit just to be
00:56:50.17\00:56:53.10
instruments in God
hands. As we're coming on to
00:56:53.11\00:56:56.83
last seconds I think
that is so key, before Christ
00:56:56.84\00:56:59.82
ask us to do he
said first of all,
00:56:59.83\00:57:01.78
all power is mine,
I've got that and then he
00:57:01.79\00:57:04.26
promise that we can
have that. So, we go now
00:57:04.27\00:57:06.73
with your assurance
that he has the power and we
00:57:06.74\00:57:10.84
can have that power so
victory is, is the assured
00:57:10.85\00:57:13.60
and evidently all 13
world divisions have bought
00:57:14.04\00:57:17.73
into this they see that
this is an idea whose time
00:57:17.74\00:57:21.72
have come, has come
and reward for themselves,
00:57:21.73\00:57:24.13
so in the next hour
we're going to talk about
00:57:24.62\00:57:27.05
specifically what
the committee is doing,
00:57:27.06\00:57:28.78
the kinds of
initiatives that are going to be
00:57:29.22\00:57:31.76
taking place and you
wanna stay by, get a drink
00:57:31.77\00:57:34.45
of water, come on
back, we got a lot more to
00:57:34.46\00:57:36.19
talk about, we'll see
you in just two minutes.
00:57:36.20\00:57:37.78