Hello and welcome
to 3ABN Today Live.
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My name is C.A. Murray
and allow me once again
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to thank you for
sharing this part of
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your day with us.
This is our two hour
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sitting together,
and this is a time
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when we can relax and
go into study in depth a
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little bit more and
we really want you to
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give ear this night
because of the subject
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matter because of
my very special guest.
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This is gonna be a
good time of sharing.
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As you can see
sitting next to me is
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Dr. Hans Diehl
and whenever the good
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doctor comes you know
he is gonna talk about
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one thing and one thing only.
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This maybe the
most focused guy that we
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have here at 3ABN
because he is a CHIPster,
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a CHIP Meister, a CHIP Maven,
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and when he comes
he is talking about the
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Coronary Health
Improvement Project,
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because it is his
life's goal to make you
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healthy to live
longer and to live better.
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I dare say when you
have gone through tonight's
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program you understand
his burden and that will
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be part of your
life. The material we're
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gonna give you
tonight we'll make you one,
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thinner will make you happier,
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will make you healthier,
and I dare say will make
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you even look
better. So if you look into
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mirror you do not
like what you see,
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listen to what
we've to say tonight,
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because you're gonna be happier,
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you're gonna be
thinner, you're gonna
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be healthier. Life is gonna be
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a little bit
better. You're gonna have
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more energy and
you're gonna look better,
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dare I say after
tonight's program.
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We've got some great guests,
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Nancy and Wendy
Gable, mother and daughter;
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right, good looking
young ladies and each
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of them have a very,
very, just fantastic story.
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We just been sitting
around talking a little
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bit and you will
get to know of them
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better in just a
little bit but they have a
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really great story. Now I need
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to do something.
Hans because the last time
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you were here, a lady called me
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from Arkansas, just outside the
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Little Rock and
she was quite irate,
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because she said you
didn't give me enough
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time to get my
pencil and paper ready,
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and she said once
Hans Diehl starts talking
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that's yes just
for two hours he never
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stops talking.
So she was really,
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really upset because
she said you got to give
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people time to get
their pencils and papers
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because they don't
always know that you
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are coming until they see you.
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So we're gonna take 10 seconds,
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Mary from just
outside little rock for you to
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get your pencil and
your paper and your note book
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and anybody else
who's got pencil or a paper
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they need to get or
you need to boot your
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computer or your
iPad or your iPhone or
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your iPod or I,
anything 10 seconds
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get your materials
because once we start
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we're gonna be
rolling and you know how fast
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this guy moves so
I'm gonna give you
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10 seconds starting now.
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Redeemed, how I
love to proclaim it!
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Redeemed by the
blood of the Lamb;
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Redeemed through
His infinite mercy,
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His child, and forever, I am.
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Redeemed, redeemed,
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Redeemed by the
blood of the Lamb;
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Okay time is up.
Hopefully you've got
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everything you
need because once we get
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started we're
gonna be running and you
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want to get this
information down,
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because CHIP has
proven to be a true blessing
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Dr. Diehl to
everybody and anybody who has
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entered into it.
It has been a very
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special privilege to
be part of this movement
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to empower people
to make some lifestyle
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changes to establish
better health habits and
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the process have better lives,
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healthier
lives, less depression,
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less heart disease,
less high blood pressure,
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less medication,
just a new freedom.
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Yeah, yeah, you
can't, you know less is more,
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yes right, isn't
it, it more light.
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So, we're gonna
be talking about CHIP
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this very night and
you will be encouraged
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I dare say when you
hear this testimonies
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and hear what the
good doctor has to say.
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Now we have a little
surprise to you because
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I didn't tell you
that your wife is gonna
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bring special music, oh, you did
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not ask for this. No I think,
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and this is like
Solomon when the Lord said I
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will give you what
you did not ask for.
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Well that's a
treat; that is a treat.
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But our music this
night comes from Hans's lovely
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wife Lily Pan Diehl and
just an excellent pianist,
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and she is going to be playing
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"Oh God Our Help In Ages Past".
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And praise the Lord well done.
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Your wife is a very
accomplished pianist.
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I am a lucky man.
Indeed I think got
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to keep her. We want to talk
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to you about our free
offer for the evening,
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which is the
Clinton Health Crisis.
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It is a magazine that
we will send to you and
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good doctor tell us
just a little bit about this
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magazine and
what it talks about?
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You know president
Clinton had heart disease,
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he had surgery and
after several years
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as happens often,
there is more surgery
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needed and so he had
two stents being placed
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and his
physicians mentioned to him
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there is not much
you can do about it.
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Heart disease is a
progressive disease
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once you've heart
disease it just continues,
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the narrowing
continues, there is not much you
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can do and he asked
the question can I stop
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this progressive
disease, the nature
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of the disease. They said no,
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it's just the way it
is, and so we then wrote a
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special article here
several of us are concern
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about this because
we know that if you
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make some lifestyle
changes you can actually
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change the
progression of disease.
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You can stop
it, you can actually
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reverse it. And so the article,
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the magazine says a
teachable moment was
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lost in that the
president was not really made
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aware of what he could
do, but he started this
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thing on himself and
as you know or just last
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year he announced
that he had adapted a
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whole food program
partly because you wanted
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to please his
daughter at the wedding,
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yes, so he lost some
25 pounds and at the same
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time he said I learned
that the evidence is very
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clear out there that
you can actually reverse
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this disease
process and I'm gonna to
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do this for one
year check it out.
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So that was a very
enlightening moment
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for all of us. Yes indeed.
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So should you want
to get this magazine
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and this is,
this is a good thing
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to have in your
house something to read
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you can email us
at freeoffer@3abn.org
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that's freeoffer@3abn.org
or call us this very
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night (618)
627-4651 use either of those
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two means and
we will get this in
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the mail to you. The
Clinton Health Crisis:
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A Teachable Moment
Lost, this will give you some
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good information
and perhaps you have
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friends or know of
individuals who could use
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this information,
you kind just phrase
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for yourself and
share it with them or put
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this magazine into
their hands after you
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have read it, we will be glad to
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get this to you, just contact us
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(618) 627-4651
freeoffer@3abn. Org,
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and we will put
this in your hands.
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Good doctor we need
to launch out we've got
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two very lovely ladies here,
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mother and daughter,
who I am told are fairly
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recent Adventists,
we'll talk about that
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also but it was the
health message that sort
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of drove them to Adventism and
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I'll put it in your
capable hands for the
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next few minutes.
Oh, well Nancy tell us,
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where do you live
and how did you become
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involved in the
CHIP Health Concepts?
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Okay, I live in
Northern Western Illinois,
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little town in the
Mount Carroll and the
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Adventist church in
Savanna Illinois nearby
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town gave a prophecy
seminar and my husband
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and I decided to
attend the prophecy seminar we
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were always
interested in prophecy,
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"The Book Of Revelations"
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and that. So we attended
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the prophecy seminar
we were very impressed
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with what we were learning,
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studied follow,
did a followup study
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with Book of
Revelations again very impressed
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with what we were
learning and then the
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pastor said for our
next study we can study one
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of these topics
and he named about four
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different topics
one of which was health.
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I was very obese
and interested in losing
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the weight and I
wanted to find a way to lose
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the weight that
would keep it off for the
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rest of my
life. I knew it needed
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to be a lifestyle
change, but I didn't really
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understand or know
what I, you know I heard
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the terms but I
didn't understand or really
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know what a
lifestyle change was.
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Now you've to
forgive me because the
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reporter in me
is coming out. Okay!
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A couple of
things, were you church
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going person before? Not really,
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I have been raised
in a Christian home,
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but as an adult it
created problems in my
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marriage and I had
decided not to attend
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church any
longer. I still was very
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interested in religion
but I just I didn't find
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a church out there
that I could agree with
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everything that
was being taught.
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So you've done some
casual sort of research,
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yes, yeah, yeah. And my husband
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was a same way. He had not been
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raised with any
particular religion.
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He had a strong
belief in the Lord,
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but again he didn't
really understand or hadn't
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found a church that
he felt he could agree
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with
everything. And so we raised
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our children
without church as well,
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but we had a strong
believe in the Lord and
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that he was
working in our lives.
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So I think we
considered ourselves Christian,
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but we just didn't
follow any particular,
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comer a nominal
moral life but not
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the religious.
Right, right, yeah,
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exactly, yeah, and
didn't attend church.
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So then what about
Revelation attracted you,
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giving that
background? We felt that we,
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my husband and I,
had always felt that
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we were being called to
something that there was
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going to be a world
crisis at some point and
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that in someway he
and I were going to
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be involved with
it. We didn't know
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what or how, but that was
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something that
brought us together in
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our courtship, was this common
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belief that we had,
yeah, and we felt that God
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brought us
together and that's how our
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marriage came
about, yeah and I went on
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that good doctor
because I know there are lot of
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people who tend of
fall in the category of
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something is
happening something is going
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on I don't know
what, but I know it's gonna
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effect me I just
you know I don't have a
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knowledge based I
can feel that something
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is happening, yes,
so I better kind of look
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and see what, what's going on
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so I know when it hits
me or before it hits me,
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right, kind of prepare for,
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and that's why we were
interested in prophecy,
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sure, and The
Book of Revelations
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because we knew
that lined up with that,
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that whole sense that we had,
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yeah, now I gonna ask you,
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you went through
a prophecy seminar
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Revelation did
you buy it right away,
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where you skeptical, I
believe that everything
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we were being taught
was truth from the Bible,
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what I wasn't sure of
was whether it was the
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whole truth whether
there were things that maybe
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we won't being told
that we didn't word aware
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of that the Bible said
that the church was not
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teaching us or showing
us, and although we had
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done a lot of
Bible reading on our own
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we didn't knew,
we didn't understand
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everything, sure.
So there was still
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there was this
little nagging doubt in the
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back of my head that,
are they just leading us
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down the path they want
us to follow or are they
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is there no alternative
or motive here you know
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that everything is just
what they are showing us
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and it's up to us
to decide whether to
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accept or not, I see.
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So when we started the
health study we started,
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we studied health just
health principles from the
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Bible as well as the
CHIP Lifestyle Principles,
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and everything that
was being studied was so
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backed up with
scientific evidence to prove
00:16:53.63\00:16:57.00
the correctness
and truthfulness of it
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plus we had the Bible
verses that also backed
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up everything that
we were being taught.
00:17:03.43\00:17:05.63
Now was this a
full CHIP program?
00:17:05.64\00:17:07.44
No this was not a
full CHIP program this
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is what who is now
kind of term a MicroCHIP,
00:17:09.93\00:17:12.90
it's, it's a short reversion.
00:17:12.91\00:17:16.47
So you were introduced
to the CHIP principles
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by your pastor, right,
00:17:21.87\00:17:24.37
who was interested
in the CHIP concepts,
00:17:24.38\00:17:26.57
correct, and of course
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CHIP stands for Coronary Health
00:17:27.57\00:17:29.39
Improvement
Project, it's nothing to do
00:17:29.40\00:17:30.74
with corn CHIPs or
potato CHIPs, right,
00:17:30.75\00:17:32.70
chocolate CHIPs
right. So your pastor was
00:17:32.71\00:17:35.89
interested in these
principles of health as
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apparently he found in
the CHIP program, right,
00:17:38.67\00:17:41.31
and this happens
often there are many pastors
00:17:41.32\00:17:43.60
and Baptist pastors,
the Adventist pastors,
00:17:43.61\00:17:45.69
there are different
people co-operations that
00:17:45.70\00:17:47.70
are looking for
better health and they find
00:17:47.71\00:17:49.54
the CHIP program
on the website and
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so and so forth.
So your pastor, right,
00:17:51.56\00:17:53.27
was interested in
this principles and he
00:17:53.28\00:17:55.35
began to teach them
into, yes, Bible studies,
00:17:55.36\00:18:00.02
we watched a some short
videos about a half hour
00:18:00.03\00:18:04.94
a week plus we
did lessons out of the
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health power book
which Dr. Diehl authored
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that clinical
authored, good Diehl,
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so we've studied.
Yeah I am learning
00:18:14.03\00:18:17.76
a lot base here.
And, again though
00:18:17.77\00:18:22.18
everything was backed up with
00:18:22.19\00:18:23.49
scientific evidence,
I had majored in biology
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in college so I
understood, you know the science
00:18:27.00\00:18:30.79
behind it and totally
agreed with what that was.
00:18:30.80\00:18:34.39
So this stuff was making sense,
00:18:34.40\00:18:35.39
exactly yeah, and I started
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applying the
principles in my life.
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I could see this was
good, this was truth this
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was sensible, and it fit all
00:18:44.71\00:18:49.65
the criteria I had
for the lifestyle change I
00:18:49.66\00:18:52.64
wanted the criteria was when,
00:18:52.65\00:18:55.05
when I was looking
for something okay I
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was very overweight.
I was obese and I knew
00:18:58.36\00:19:04.75
I needed to be a
lifestyle change that
00:19:04.76\00:19:06.63
I could do the rest of my life.
00:19:06.64\00:19:07.99
I had tried some diets
I had tried some different
00:19:08.70\00:19:11.49
things over the
years to lose the weight.
00:19:11.50\00:19:13.57
I had lost some but
then I always gain it
00:19:14.22\00:19:16.21
back and always more
would come on after that.
00:19:16.22\00:19:19.34
So I knew it had to
be something I could do
00:19:20.84\00:19:23.84
forever I couldn't
go on something and then
00:19:23.85\00:19:26.04
go off because when I
go off I can't go back
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on and you know I
don't stay what that loss.
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You didn't want
to do Yo, yo, right?
00:19:35.22\00:19:36.47
Exactly, exactly, you need to do
00:19:36.48\00:19:37.67
once and for all, and for a
00:19:37.68\00:19:40.89
permanent situation,
right, but you also see
00:19:40.90\00:19:42.49
how clear this she
was the finding what she
00:19:42.50\00:19:46.21
wanted to
accomplish right, yeah,
00:19:46.22\00:19:47.95
not only in her religious quest,
00:19:47.96\00:19:49.77
but also now in her
quest for weight loss program
00:19:49.78\00:19:53.96
right and so what did you find?
00:19:53.97\00:19:55.93
So some other
criteria had in there besides
00:19:56.45\00:19:59.13
just I want to
do it for permanent,
00:19:59.14\00:20:01.91
I didn't want to
count calories, okay,
00:20:02.69\00:20:04.87
I didn't want to
weigh and measure my food,
00:20:04.88\00:20:06.83
I didn't want to
count carbohydrates.
00:20:07.61\00:20:10.20
You didn't want to
little scales and put a
00:20:10.21\00:20:11.72
little in this kind of thing,
00:20:11.73\00:20:12.70
exactly, yeah, yeah,
and I wanted to be able
00:20:12.71\00:20:15.08
to buy my food at
regular grocery stores, amen,
00:20:15.09\00:20:19.00
so no specialized
food; no specialized foods.
00:20:20.49\00:20:22.98
Okay, and everything
we were being shown and
00:20:22.99\00:20:27.23
taught in these
CHIP that's lifestyle
00:20:27.24\00:20:31.65
study and what we
were learning from the
00:20:31.66\00:20:33.87
Bible all came
together and met every one
00:20:33.88\00:20:37.12
of those
criteria, and it was good
00:20:37.13\00:20:40.06
healthy full rich
food. But some of the
00:20:40.60\00:20:46.20
church people would
prefer some foods samples
00:20:46.21\00:20:48.62
and bring those
for us to try out.
00:20:48.63\00:20:50.24
We were getting
being given recipes from
00:20:50.71\00:20:53.20
a lot of different sources,
00:20:53.21\00:20:54.76
easy recipes, easy to prepare
00:20:54.77\00:20:57.54
things that I could do
easily at home I was not
00:20:57.55\00:20:59.90
chef or you know any
kind of great cook, right,
00:20:59.91\00:21:02.84
and in fact she could verify,
00:21:03.17\00:21:04.87
she definitely did not
cook we were going out,
00:21:05.67\00:21:08.98
to say this is my dad
all the way and you know
00:21:09.41\00:21:12.65
my dad and my siblings
and I who did the cooking
00:21:12.66\00:21:14.78
and she was, she would do
00:21:14.79\00:21:17.73
anything but be in the kitchen.
00:21:17.74\00:21:19.79
I want to
establish something here
00:21:20.66\00:21:21.73
then good doctor
that the CHIP lifestyle is
00:21:21.74\00:21:25.13
not an austere sort of monastery
00:21:25.14\00:21:29.75
monastic existence.
Oh, no, no it's fun.
00:21:29.76\00:21:32.47
I get one carrot
you know and when I get
00:21:32.48\00:21:34.31
one single broccoli you know.
00:21:34.32\00:21:35.81
No no no, it's
just the opposite,
00:21:37.63\00:21:40.65
praise the lord,
we have a variety
00:21:40.66\00:21:42.54
of food, yeah,
and the more color the
00:21:42.55\00:21:44.71
better it is and we
help people to move into the
00:21:44.72\00:21:47.25
direction at their speed.
00:21:47.26\00:21:49.32
Yeah, some people
already to go further
00:21:49.33\00:21:52.04
than the others,
but we are right there
00:21:52.05\00:21:53.48
and we help them to
understand something
00:21:53.49\00:21:55.12
about caloric
density, did that make sense
00:21:55.13\00:21:57.29
to you the
caloric density concept,
00:21:57.30\00:21:58.96
yes it does
yes, because you have
00:21:58.97\00:22:00.33
a pretty heavy then aren't you?
00:22:00.34\00:22:01.68
I was 80 pounds over
my wedding date weight,
00:22:01.69\00:22:05.09
really, yeah, is there a picture
00:22:05.10\00:22:07.91
that we have on that
one, I believe we do,
00:22:07.92\00:22:09.69
can we look at that picture?
00:22:10.36\00:22:11.78
That was the
before right, you know,
00:22:12.97\00:22:15.44
and that was
actually after I had lost five
00:22:15.45\00:22:17.73
pounds trying something else.
00:22:17.74\00:22:19.60
This is, this is how my
00:22:20.73\00:22:22.36
mom weighed my whole
life. This was the only way
00:22:22.37\00:22:24.98
that I've saw her,
yeah, by whole childhood was
00:22:24.99\00:22:29.20
as a very large
women and that's how pretty
00:22:29.21\00:22:31.55
much everyone in my family was.
00:22:31.56\00:22:32.98
So you've had a
hard time kind of,
00:22:33.57\00:22:35.32
yeah I remember when I
used to hug her, I would,
00:22:35.76\00:22:38.92
my arms were very
open and I couldn't
00:22:38.93\00:22:42.30
really hug her,
you were substantive
00:22:42.31\00:22:44.20
wasn't that, right, yeah.
00:22:44.21\00:22:45.47
So then you come to
CHIP and you know something
00:22:45.98\00:22:48.08
about caloric
density right, right,
00:22:48.09\00:22:51.73
was that eye opener?
Yeah, because these foods
00:22:51.74\00:22:54.65
are all just loaded
with vitamins and minerals
00:22:54.66\00:22:58.26
and there is the new
term vital chemicals and
00:22:58.27\00:23:01.11
you know these
kinds of things a lot of
00:23:01.83\00:23:04.43
different nutrients in these.
00:23:04.44\00:23:08.26
We think of it
orange as having vitamin C
00:23:08.54\00:23:11.44
which it does,
but it has a whole
00:23:12.25\00:23:14.53
lot of other
nutrients that we generally
00:23:14.54\00:23:16.98
don't even talk
about, but there are very
00:23:16.99\00:23:19.87
good for our
bodies and the green leafy
00:23:20.61\00:23:24.01
vegetables and you know
legumes and whole grains
00:23:24.02\00:23:29.17
all of these things
have great nutrients for us.
00:23:29.18\00:23:32.44
Let me just kick in
here, you know it is really
00:23:33.20\00:23:36.06
no surprise that
Americans are struggling
00:23:36.07\00:23:38.51
with enlarging
bodies, there is no surprise,
00:23:38.52\00:23:42.96
when you realize
that over 50 percent of
00:23:42.97\00:23:46.58
our calories that we
eat here in America are
00:23:46.59\00:23:48.59
coming from processed
refined engineered foods
00:23:48.60\00:23:52.80
that come in crinkle bags, yeah,
00:23:52.81\00:23:54.97
that come in sterile
form cut and just push
00:23:54.98\00:23:58.08
them into the
microwave oven, yeah,
00:23:58.09\00:23:59.25
these are refined foods okay,
00:23:59.26\00:24:00.76
50 percent of all the
calories come from this
00:24:01.19\00:24:03.18
source then you have
another 40 calories plus
00:24:03.19\00:24:06.19
and these
calories comes from animal
00:24:07.13\00:24:08.84
products like
cheeses, dairy, meet, sausages
00:24:08.85\00:24:13.15
and so on and they are
all very rich in calories
00:24:13.16\00:24:16.04
and only about 10
percent or less of the
00:24:16.05\00:24:19.10
calories that we eat
comes from fresh fruits,
00:24:19.11\00:24:21.25
yes, vegetables,
legumes, you know the beans
00:24:21.26\00:24:24.92
and whole grains.
And, when you began to move
00:24:24.93\00:24:28.43
in the direction of
eating these more refined
00:24:28.44\00:24:32.38
foods and animal
products you always
00:24:32.39\00:24:34.77
concentrate
calories, for instance,
00:24:34.78\00:24:36.84
now this looks very innocent
00:24:39.03\00:24:40.21
doesn't it this one, this little
00:24:40.22\00:24:41.55
nutrient scrods,
yeah, I mean how long you
00:24:41.56\00:24:44.29
will take you to eat those,
00:24:44.30\00:24:45.27
about 10 seconds.
You inhaled that right,
00:24:46.21\00:24:48.57
yeah and you eat
only one. A box, yeah,
00:24:49.10\00:24:52.21
now you see right
here you have 50 calories
00:24:54.30\00:24:58.21
and it takes you
no time and it's gone,
00:24:58.82\00:25:00.64
just a very small
volume but 50 calories which
00:25:01.21\00:25:04.25
is very not too bad
when you think about it,
00:25:04.26\00:25:06.37
but if you would have
real food I mean this is,
00:25:06.38\00:25:10.32
this is ought to, food that is
00:25:10.33\00:25:12.00
not to processed.
This has been comes
00:25:12.01\00:25:14.08
in nature here you
have also 50 calories and
00:25:14.09\00:25:17.59
this is 50 calories
now you said you can just
00:25:17.60\00:25:19.87
inhale those in 10
seconds how about this?
00:25:19.88\00:25:21.95
Come on, that take it seconds
00:25:22.77\00:25:23.74
it's take longer, but you know
00:25:23.75\00:25:27.82
how to look is
this, this is 50 calories
00:25:27.83\00:25:30.50
and this is 50
calories, and this 50 calories.
00:25:31.05\00:25:32.94
This is processed,
yeah this is coming
00:25:34.03\00:25:36.07
out of the hand of
the master designer,
00:25:36.08\00:25:38.40
and usually you said Diehl,
00:25:39.15\00:25:40.45
you get a glass of
milks and now you got milk
00:25:40.46\00:25:41.90
and sugar
combination, yes you know and
00:25:41.91\00:25:43.74
extra calories and
fat and you're gonna
00:25:43.75\00:25:46.94
to eat six, ten maybe a box,
00:25:46.95\00:25:50.75
you never eat or succeed this,
00:25:51.36\00:25:52.94
and you know these
are sometimes profound
00:25:53.89\00:25:56.80
a hard moments for
people. You know like Nancy
00:25:56.81\00:26:00.30
she said you mean I
can eat this much food.
00:26:00.83\00:26:03.11
I mean that can eat
more and now then less, yeah,
00:26:03.12\00:26:05.63
exactly and then take
a look at this one here.
00:26:05.97\00:26:08.27
Now you know this
is about 1200 calories,
00:26:09.55\00:26:13.62
wow, this is come out
from crinkly bag, yeah,
00:26:13.63\00:26:16.08
this is a
processed food engineers for
00:26:16.09\00:26:19.19
taste high in salt, high in fat,
00:26:19.20\00:26:22.76
I mean this is
what people eat right,
00:26:23.71\00:26:27.32
yeah and you can
said on eat that many
00:26:27.33\00:26:29.36
in a sitting. Well I ask I
00:26:29.37\00:26:32.06
ask medical students
how long does it take
00:26:32.07\00:26:33.63
you to eat this,
these 1200 calories,
00:26:33.64\00:26:35.54
they said 13
minutes I said are you full,
00:26:36.03\00:26:39.01
no not then I
said, how many calories
00:26:39.02\00:26:41.50
you having here?
And they said we don't
00:26:41.51\00:26:44.81
know we don't take
nutrition in medical
00:26:44.82\00:26:46.45
school they said, we don't take
00:26:46.46\00:26:50.18
nutrition in medical school.
00:26:50.19\00:26:51.63
I said, I said
00:26:51.64\00:26:52.61
this is 1200 calories
this is 1200 calories, wow,
00:26:52.62\00:26:55.53
this is 11 medium
size potatoes each
00:26:55.54\00:26:58.61
one is about a
110 calories I said
00:26:58.62\00:27:00.86
how long you will
take to eat those,
00:27:00.87\00:27:02.02
this is at 13 minutes, 13 days.
00:27:02.03\00:27:05.06
So the principle here
is you have more volume
00:27:07.57\00:27:11.19
you feel for,
you have more fiber
00:27:12.08\00:27:15.24
you have more
nutrition value and these foods
00:27:15.25\00:27:18.18
also cheaper than
this there and I think
00:27:18.19\00:27:20.69
once you discover that
and you know you can add
00:27:20.70\00:27:22.95
animal products
because if really high fat or
00:27:22.96\00:27:26.31
usually very calorically
dense small volume large
00:27:26.32\00:27:30.39
number of calories I
think that probably helps
00:27:30.40\00:27:32.29
you to learn that
you can eat more and
00:27:32.30\00:27:36.11
weight less
right. That's correct,
00:27:36.12\00:27:37.59
what I was finding
was that I really enjoying
00:27:38.61\00:27:41.59
these foods and
I enjoyed cooking,
00:27:41.60\00:27:43.65
I mean you found
me in the kitchen a
00:27:43.66\00:27:45.22
lot more chapping
up chapping up the
00:27:45.23\00:27:48.86
foods and fixing
things, and else you need what
00:27:48.87\00:27:51.00
you were doing,
it was very easy to
00:27:51.01\00:27:53.21
fix these foods and a
lot of times they could
00:27:53.22\00:27:56.92
be very simply
prepared. I didn't have to
00:27:56.93\00:27:59.31
have special sauces or
creams or anything like
00:27:59.32\00:28:02.43
that on them and
they were nutritious
00:28:02.44\00:28:05.49
and delicious. I started having
00:28:05.50\00:28:08.16
a greater variety
in the foods I ate and
00:28:08.17\00:28:11.55
my grocery bill went down, yeah.
00:28:11.56\00:28:13.57
I've gonna say what
was the biggest change
00:28:13.92\00:28:16.54
as far as diet,
what was the most
00:28:16.55\00:28:18.24
radical switch
over from the pre-CHIP,
00:28:18.25\00:28:22.67
micro CHIP to
the post micro CHIP?
00:28:22.68\00:28:25.39
Getting away from
the processed foods that,
00:28:25.40\00:28:28.03
so you were
eating processed foods,
00:28:28.04\00:28:29.43
eat absolutely and we
have things out of bags
00:28:29.44\00:28:32.71
and boxes and you
know and pull it out
00:28:32.72\00:28:35.38
the freezer you
poppet in the microwave and
00:28:35.39\00:28:37.46
there is you got to meet,
00:28:37.47\00:28:38.44
for you big desert
person, not a lot of deserts
00:28:38.45\00:28:41.58
I did do a lot of
snacks and unhealthy snacks
00:28:41.59\00:28:44.32
the potato
CHIPs, corn CHIPs candy,
00:28:44.33\00:28:48.08
candy is
weighting diet. She was a,
00:28:48.09\00:28:51.23
she was addict, she was she was,
00:28:51.24\00:28:56.87
she eats pizza
with extra cheese of
00:28:56.88\00:28:58.89
extra cheese on top,
and you were shocked that
00:28:58.90\00:29:02.65
you learned that
she is about 70 percent
00:29:02.66\00:29:05.05
fat is it, yeah,
yeah I really was.
00:29:05.06\00:29:07.17
70 percent of calories, right,
00:29:07.18\00:29:08.91
and you also
began to learn that the
00:29:09.30\00:29:10.95
larger the snacks,
the larger the flags yeah,
00:29:10.96\00:29:14.29
and I knew that
too, that's the way it
00:29:14.30\00:29:17.40
worked with me.
Are you eat meat eater
00:29:19.41\00:29:20.38
in your family?
We were encouraged
00:29:20.39\00:29:21.87
to eat a lot of
meat we had meat at least
00:29:21.88\00:29:24.98
twice a day of not
three times we would
00:29:24.99\00:29:28.03
usually didn't have it
for breakfast but you know
00:29:28.04\00:29:30.79
I know a lot of
people do we just didn't
00:29:30.80\00:29:32.79
happen to, yeah,
fresh from the farm,
00:29:32.80\00:29:35.33
yeah some of the meat
are fresh from the farm,
00:29:35.72\00:29:38.64
yeah, I think they are
getting fresh and getting
00:29:39.12\00:29:41.30
meat fresh in the farm, right,
00:29:41.31\00:29:43.05
right you know my
brother in law farmed and so we
00:29:43.39\00:29:45.99
got meat from his from his farm,
00:29:46.00\00:29:48.65
he is my dad's
family were beef farmers,
00:29:48.66\00:29:51.49
oh, okay, and my
mom's very much grew
00:29:51.61\00:29:53.31
up with dairy
farmers. So meat and dairy
00:29:53.32\00:29:56.19
was considered
staple and the beef farm
00:29:56.20\00:29:59.60
we actually lived
on a piece of the land
00:29:59.61\00:30:01.54
from the beef
farms so they were.
00:30:01.55\00:30:02.79
Now I want to ask
you because we touched
00:30:02.80\00:30:04.63
now in just a
moment ago most medical
00:30:04.64\00:30:07.06
students don't get
a lot of nutrition in
00:30:07.07\00:30:08.67
these studies. No,
not really, aha, yeah.
00:30:08.68\00:30:12.27
Right, we are working on this
00:30:12.28\00:30:14.14
we are working on this,
00:30:14.15\00:30:15.34
it's coming all too slowly.
00:30:15.35\00:30:17.74
You know I mean
if you have three or
00:30:17.75\00:30:21.10
four lecturers
in four years, yeah,
00:30:21.11\00:30:23.28
so we need to
really, really do something
00:30:23.29\00:30:25.77
about this we need
to beefed up, indeed,
00:30:25.78\00:30:31.15
so you began to
get some of these
00:30:31.16\00:30:34.71
principles under your
belt it's literally, yes,
00:30:34.72\00:30:37.70
and then what happened.
00:30:37.71\00:30:38.72
I started this ways
and making these changes
00:30:38.73\00:30:41.75
and the way
started coming off and just
00:30:41.76\00:30:44.28
started melting
away and I didn't feel
00:30:44.29\00:30:47.26
and that was
another thing I could eat
00:30:47.27\00:30:49.41
plenty of food. I didn't have
00:30:49.42\00:30:51.11
to starve myself
that way that measure
00:30:51.12\00:30:53.45
your food you have
to have limited sizes,
00:30:53.46\00:30:55.90
limited proportions I
didn't have to do that
00:30:55.91\00:30:58.24
with this I didn't
have to worry about how
00:30:58.25\00:30:59.88
much I ate just eat
until I was satisfied,
00:30:59.89\00:31:02.96
wow. And, so that
was a big thing too and
00:31:02.97\00:31:06.84
what I found was
over about two or maybe
00:31:06.85\00:31:10.17
three months my desire
and my sense of needing
00:31:10.18\00:31:15.56
snacks just melted away as well,
00:31:15.57\00:31:18.19
it wasn't that I had
to stop eating snacks
00:31:18.20\00:31:22.24
I continued eating
snacks for a while,
00:31:22.25\00:31:25.59
but after while I
was eating such a healthy
00:31:25.60\00:31:28.71
nutritious
breakfast full of high fiber
00:31:28.72\00:31:31.39
that would last
me until lunch and
00:31:31.40\00:31:33.99
next thing I knew my
breakfast 7.00 or 7.30
00:31:34.00\00:31:38.01
in the morning and I
used to have a bag of
00:31:38.02\00:31:40.88
snacks or something you know at
00:31:40.89\00:31:42.54
10.30, 10.00 or
10.30, yeah, suddenly I found
00:31:42.55\00:31:46.79
myself 11 0'clock,
11:30, or even noon and
00:31:46.80\00:31:50.33
I was only just now
starting to feel hungry
00:31:50.34\00:31:52.83
and had notice I
no notice of a need
00:31:52.84\00:31:56.55
for a snack during the morning.
00:31:56.56\00:31:58.14
I'm gonna to ask
you did you husband
00:31:58.15\00:31:59.40
join you this or
did you kind of step out
00:31:59.41\00:32:00.95
and did yourself.
He was in the study;
00:32:00.96\00:32:04.53
he agreed with
everything that we were
00:32:04.54\00:32:06.66
learning, he was
very obese and he
00:32:06.67\00:32:09.94
needed to make changes as well.
00:32:09.95\00:32:11.80
But he agreed
with everything but he
00:32:11.81\00:32:15.85
didn't apply those
things in his life.
00:32:15.86\00:32:18.35
So he continued
to eat the same way
00:32:18.36\00:32:22.09
as we had been eating,
00:32:22.10\00:32:23.15
his weight continued to climb.
00:32:23.16\00:32:25.65
And why did you think about your
00:32:25.66\00:32:28.11
shrinking ways line.
00:32:28.12\00:32:29.11
Oh he was fine with that.
00:32:29.12\00:32:30.51
I teased him that he
is a polygamist okay.
00:32:36.68\00:32:41.31
A polygamist? He is
a polygamist, he had,
00:32:41.32\00:32:43.81
he had a young
skinny wife he had a
00:32:43.82\00:32:47.78
middle age fat
wife and now he has
00:32:47.79\00:32:50.26
on older skinny
wife. So he is now,
00:32:50.27\00:32:54.20
so he has had three women.
00:32:54.21\00:32:56.94
So your weight was
coming down then right?
00:32:59.43\00:33:01.41
Yes my weight was coming down.
00:33:01.42\00:33:02.85
Was it coming
down fast or gradual,
00:33:02.86\00:33:05.39
what happened after one year?
00:33:05.40\00:33:06.44
It was coming down
gradually and that was
00:33:06.45\00:33:09.22
something we were
learn to that just better
00:33:09.23\00:33:10.83
to lose weight gradually,
00:33:10.84\00:33:12.64
don't not a big
weight loss all at once,
00:33:12.65\00:33:15.93
just bring it down slow.
00:33:15.94\00:33:17.36
They say two to four but,
00:33:17.37\00:33:19.71
two to four pounds
two to six pounds a month
00:33:19.72\00:33:23.24
is about right. Was that was,
00:33:23.25\00:33:25.20
was happening for
you to about that,
00:33:25.21\00:33:26.66
that's how what
would happen for me
00:33:26.67\00:33:27.78
at the end of a year
I had lost 49 pounds,
00:33:27.79\00:33:31.75
wow, and so it was
right there at 4 pounds
00:33:31.76\00:33:34.73
a month was, was what my weight
00:33:34.74\00:33:37.41
lose was in that
first year and we have
00:33:37.42\00:33:39.87
another picture that shows where
00:33:39.88\00:33:42.73
I was added at that point and so
00:33:42.74\00:33:46.49
I don't know if
they couldn't clip that
00:33:46.50\00:33:47.72
in or not but yeah that was the,
00:33:47.73\00:33:50.01
oh you can see to that,
00:33:50.02\00:33:50.99
that's was one year
later after one year
00:33:51.00\00:33:53.47
that's what I
look like. So that,
00:33:53.48\00:33:56.89
and then at that
point it seem like
00:33:56.90\00:34:00.78
I stabilized you
know there a lot of times
00:34:00.79\00:34:02.75
weight lost they
talked about you have
00:34:02.76\00:34:04.45
this plateau that's
what happened with me,
00:34:04.46\00:34:06.93
I plateau did that level.
00:34:06.94\00:34:08.71
And I was satisfied there
00:34:08.72\00:34:10.80
I am really enjoyed that
00:34:10.81\00:34:12.79
I was add had
reached that level again,
00:34:12.80\00:34:15.71
that was about
30 pounds overweight
00:34:15.72\00:34:18.69
at that point and I still wanted
00:34:18.70\00:34:21.75
to lose in additional 30 pounds,
00:34:21.76\00:34:23.87
but I continue
doing what I was doing
00:34:23.88\00:34:27.32
but it just wasn't
coming off anymore.
00:34:27.33\00:34:29.38
Now I want to ask
you did you have any
00:34:29.39\00:34:31.28
attended health
issues other than
00:34:31.29\00:34:33.30
just a weight or you have any?
00:34:33.31\00:34:34.62
I really didn't
accept one I had had a
00:34:34.63\00:34:37.71
doctor tell me
at one point that my
00:34:37.72\00:34:40.14
cholesterol was moderately high,
00:34:40.15\00:34:42.25
border line high
and that way was at 220
00:34:42.26\00:34:45.88
at that point and he said
00:34:45.89\00:34:48.00
I should watch my diet,
00:34:48.01\00:34:49.97
he didn't tell me anything about
00:34:49.98\00:34:50.95
what did they what do you mean
00:34:50.96\00:34:52.13
watch my diet, I didn't know
00:34:52.14\00:34:55.91
what that mean I didn't know
00:34:55.92\00:34:57.33
what I should
watch, so I continue
00:34:57.34\00:35:00.74
to eat as I always had because
00:35:00.75\00:35:02.23
I didn't know how to
what to do differently.
00:35:02.24\00:35:04.63
So I imagined my cholesterol was
00:35:04.64\00:35:07.11
probably still at that level but
00:35:07.12\00:35:08.61
I really didn't
know, yeah, yeah.
00:35:08.62\00:35:10.66
I want to say you
know she may don't
00:35:10.67\00:35:13.12
have medical,
official medical issues
00:35:13.13\00:35:16.19
but she was
always complaining about
00:35:16.20\00:35:18.43
not being able
to get up and about
00:35:18.44\00:35:20.00
low energy and you know as kids
00:35:20.01\00:35:22.52
we would want to go do stuff and
00:35:22.53\00:35:24.10
she never really
wanted to go with us
00:35:24.11\00:35:26.87
because it was
just there was so much
00:35:26.88\00:35:28.87
weight holding her
down all the time and
00:35:28.88\00:35:30.83
her energy kept her
from going and really
00:35:30.84\00:35:33.11
having fun, and
aches and pains, yes.
00:35:33.12\00:35:36.37
I had a lot of aches and pains.
00:35:36.38\00:35:38.38
I would sit in a
chair and when I sat down
00:35:38.39\00:35:41.80
I didn't want to get
up because I was stiff,
00:35:41.81\00:35:44.94
you know I just feel
muscle joints would be
00:35:44.95\00:35:50.08
stiff and achy so if
I was up by stay up into
00:35:50.09\00:35:54.48
what I needed to and that
00:35:54.49\00:35:55.46
I would sit down and stays up.
00:35:55.47\00:35:56.77
But so as you were
losing weight so you
00:35:59.26\00:36:01.35
lose about 40
pounds in on year roughly,
00:36:01.36\00:36:03.26
weight, right,
right almost 50 pounds.
00:36:03.27\00:36:05.32
So, and your husband
is rejoice seeing in a
00:36:05.33\00:36:08.43
sliming down
weight lay in the of his
00:36:08.44\00:36:10.29
wife right, right,
did you inspire him
00:36:10.30\00:36:13.21
did that his inspire him or what
00:36:13.22\00:36:14.28
happened to him? Well I didn't
00:36:14.29\00:36:15.52
that for didn't
that seem to it first
00:36:15.53\00:36:17.58
he did like I said
he kept talking about it
00:36:17.59\00:36:19.97
and he would
talked to his brothers or
00:36:19.98\00:36:22.58
other people that he
knew especially those
00:36:22.59\00:36:25.48
who were
overweight and he make joking
00:36:25.49\00:36:27.80
comments you
know, hey we need to be
00:36:27.81\00:36:29.99
eating this or you
know doing that instead and,
00:36:30.00\00:36:33.67
but then he and
continue eating the
00:36:33.68\00:36:35.19
way he always had.
00:36:35.20\00:36:36.22
my dad is
skeptic, a big skeptic,
00:36:36.23\00:36:39.43
he doesn't want to do anything
00:36:39.44\00:36:40.72
until it's proven to him, I see.
00:36:40.73\00:36:42.29
So he thinks that
until the proof is on
00:36:42.30\00:36:46.03
the putting, so
until the proof is
00:36:46.04\00:36:47.59
there he doesn't
want to make any changes.
00:36:47.60\00:36:49.61
So, so almost four year went by,
00:36:49.62\00:36:52.02
another full year
okay so one year had gone
00:36:52.03\00:36:55.16
by at lost about 50 pounds.
00:36:55.17\00:36:57.02
Now we were into the second year
00:36:57.03\00:36:59.28
and my weight was
staying steady and
00:36:59.29\00:37:02.42
a little bit
beyond that he decided he
00:37:02.43\00:37:05.32
wanted to make
the change as well.
00:37:05.33\00:37:07.06
And so, so you inspired him,
00:37:07.07\00:37:09.60
I think you
talked him or you just
00:37:09.61\00:37:12.44
observe your get them energy.
00:37:12.45\00:37:14.66
He observed and he
talked with somebody
00:37:14.67\00:37:18.57
who knew a lot about
nutrition and was kind
00:37:18.58\00:37:22.34
of talking to him
about making these changes
00:37:22.35\00:37:25.46
because he not only
was obese he also had
00:37:25.47\00:37:28.78
Type II Diabetes,
high blood pressure, and
00:37:28.79\00:37:32.12
high cholesterol and
he was on medications
00:37:32.13\00:37:35.15
for all three
and had been on those
00:37:35.16\00:37:37.52
for six years. Six years yeah!
00:37:37.53\00:37:39.38
And this person
that he was talking
00:37:39.39\00:37:41.67
with told him to
make these changes
00:37:41.68\00:37:47.28
lose that weight and he might be
00:37:47.29\00:37:49.18
able to get off
of these medications.
00:37:49.19\00:37:50.94
Was he proud of you?
Did he encourage you?
00:37:50.95\00:37:54.48
Oh, yes. He was
cheer leading for you.
00:37:54.49\00:37:56.28
Yes he was very
encouraging. Yes.
00:37:56.29\00:37:58.10
Yeah. He never pooh
poohed anything I did,
00:37:58.11\00:38:01.99
you know, he never
dissuaded me from doing
00:38:02.00\00:38:05.08
and he was very
supportive that way.
00:38:05.09\00:38:07.10
The question I
want to ask you then
00:38:07.11\00:38:08.08
is your friends and
those around you knew
00:38:08.09\00:38:10.43
what they
thinking about the new you,
00:38:10.44\00:38:12.40
because obviously they had to.
00:38:12.41\00:38:13.39
Well they were
amazed that they were people
00:38:13.40\00:38:15.61
that I had been
involved with him
00:38:15.62\00:38:18.15
business meetings
and such and I was rather
00:38:18.16\00:38:21.02
active in my
community at that time and they
00:38:21.03\00:38:25.27
I started kind of
backing out of some of
00:38:25.28\00:38:27.92
those things and so
some of those people
00:38:27.93\00:38:30.44
didn't see me for
several months and
00:38:30.45\00:38:32.72
when they saw me again
they did a double take,
00:38:32.73\00:38:36.51
you know like Nancy
wow you've really changed,
00:38:36.52\00:38:39.28
and they were amazed yeah.
00:38:40.89\00:38:42.91
And of course I
imagined some of them
00:38:42.92\00:38:45.21
felt like you
know okay she has lost
00:38:45.22\00:38:47.45
the weight, but it will probably
00:38:47.46\00:38:48.95
come back on, yeah,
because lot of times
00:38:48.96\00:38:51.10
you see that with
people who lose weight,
00:38:51.11\00:38:53.07
but overtime the
weight didn't come back on
00:38:53.08\00:38:56.53
and then in fact
during this time period
00:38:56.54\00:38:58.46
where I plateaued I
have way expected it
00:38:58.47\00:39:01.53
to start coming back
on again but I kept doing
00:39:01.54\00:39:04.40
what I've been
taught what we you know
00:39:04.41\00:39:06.42
what I was learning
or what I learned and
00:39:06.43\00:39:09.38
it did not come
back on it stayed off
00:39:09.39\00:39:11.88
and for over a
year, it's stayed off
00:39:11.89\00:39:15.77
and I mean it
never did come back.
00:39:15.78\00:39:18.85
I want to ask you a
question, good doctor
00:39:18.86\00:39:21.51
is this plateauing
is that a normal phase
00:39:21.52\00:39:23.93
that you go
through, your body kind
00:39:23.94\00:39:25.03
of stabilize for. It happens.
00:39:25.04\00:39:26.79
It has quite
often. The body tries to
00:39:26.80\00:39:29.56
hang on to
certain level and it might
00:39:29.57\00:39:34.11
actually loose fat
but it holds onto water to
00:39:34.12\00:39:37.60
maintain that
special weight happens
00:39:37.61\00:39:40.91
all to often, but then if you
00:39:40.92\00:39:42.42
follow through on the
program and you eating
00:39:42.43\00:39:44.52
fewer calories then you burn,
00:39:44.53\00:39:47.94
then ultimately the
body has to let go and
00:39:47.95\00:39:50.72
I think that's
probably what happened to you
00:39:50.73\00:39:51.92
right, you were
there for a year on
00:39:51.93\00:39:54.07
the plateau and then
what happened? Right,
00:39:54.08\00:39:55.99
well then one
my husband made the
00:39:56.00\00:39:57.44
decision make
changes to his lifestyle
00:39:57.45\00:40:00.63
because I was
already doing everything.
00:40:00.64\00:40:03.43
I told him that
I would support him
00:40:03.44\00:40:05.77
and making those
changes make sure
00:40:05.78\00:40:07.68
he had all the
right foods and was,
00:40:07.69\00:40:09.66
you know we
cooked things properly
00:40:09.67\00:40:11.81
that sort of
thing and I recommitted
00:40:11.82\00:40:14.10
myself to kind
of tightening up on
00:40:14.11\00:40:17.22
what I did, we would cut
00:40:17.23\00:40:18.55
back on the fats a little more,
00:40:18.56\00:40:20.32
do more exercise
make a few adjustments
00:40:20.33\00:40:24.07
to what I was doing.
So I started applying
00:40:24.08\00:40:26.94
that to my lifestyle
along with helping him
00:40:26.95\00:40:30.65
with his and both
of us exercise daily
00:40:30.66\00:40:35.91
at that point then
we both committed to
00:40:35.92\00:40:37.78
daily exercise and
so we walked together
00:40:37.79\00:40:40.45
everyday we
take a walk together.
00:40:40.46\00:40:42.51
It is such an
important concepts health
00:40:42.52\00:40:45.73
is a family affairs,
yes yes, yes, right, yeah,
00:40:45.74\00:40:48.91
I mean you are
now moving in the same
00:40:48.92\00:40:51.46
direction
together, right, and your
00:40:51.47\00:40:53.04
husband's weight came down and
00:40:53.05\00:40:54.25
you told me right,
right, what happened.
00:40:54.26\00:40:55.56
He began to lose
some weight within three
00:40:55.57\00:40:59.75
weeks his doctor
was able to cut his
00:40:59.76\00:41:02.86
diabetes
medication in half, wow,
00:41:02.87\00:41:05.46
because his blood
sugars were going low
00:41:05.47\00:41:07.40
at this point and
that was just three weeks
00:41:07.41\00:41:10.23
and then by eight weeks he was
00:41:10.24\00:41:13.63
off of the medications,
all three medications,
00:41:13.64\00:41:16.52
wow, completely off
of his diabetes medicine
00:41:16.53\00:41:18.98
and off of the heart
and the blood pressure
00:41:18.99\00:41:22.95
and cholesterol
medications as well.
00:41:22.96\00:41:24.96
Can you imagine?
Here you have a man
00:41:24.97\00:41:27.38
that was a skeptic
right, and now he is
00:41:27.39\00:41:29.93
beginning to follow
in the tracks his wife.
00:41:29.94\00:41:32.20
They began to walk together.
00:41:32.21\00:41:34.38
They are going to
eat together at the
00:41:34.39\00:41:36.25
same foods and they
are both losing weight.
00:41:36.26\00:41:38.79
She has already
moved a head of him right.
00:41:38.80\00:41:40.97
Now he has
beginning to lose weight.
00:41:40.98\00:41:42.47
He lost some I
think you mentioned
00:41:42.48\00:41:43.91
to me some 60;
he lost 25 pounds in
00:41:43.92\00:41:46.69
the eight weeks,
yes, wow, and then after
00:41:46.70\00:41:49.15
a year he had lost
little over 60 pounds.
00:41:49.16\00:41:52.00
Bless, it's hard.
So can you imagine?
00:41:52.01\00:41:53.38
Here this man, who
loses 60 some pounds
00:41:53.39\00:41:55.36
and you perhaps
have lost more now,
00:41:55.37\00:41:57.62
I now lost some
additional weight
00:41:57.63\00:41:59.83
I came down just about to where
00:41:59.84\00:42:02.73
I wanted to be I
lost another 28 pounds,
00:42:02.74\00:42:06.69
and I don't know
if you want to put
00:42:06.70\00:42:09.22
the clip in
now, these two people
00:42:09.23\00:42:11.60
then lost how
many pounds of both.
00:42:11.61\00:42:13.61
We lost total of 138 pounds both
00:42:13.62\00:42:16.69
and between the two of us.
00:42:16.70\00:42:17.98
Can you imagine?
They lost about 138.
00:42:17.99\00:42:19.58
There is losing
one person in family.
00:42:19.59\00:42:21.72
And what was interesting,
00:42:21.73\00:42:23.97
and one person just disappeared,
00:42:23.98\00:42:24.95
that is exactly
the weight I was, wow,
00:42:24.96\00:42:29.84
what I lose the 77 pounds and
00:42:29.85\00:42:32.64
he lost his
weight it was 138 pounds
00:42:32.65\00:42:36.25
and that was my
weight at that point, wow,
00:42:36.26\00:42:38.48
was a 138 pounds. We lost me,
00:42:38.49\00:42:40.52
we lost me
between the two of us.
00:42:41.74\00:42:43.89
I think you have
a special picture
00:42:43.90\00:42:46.26
don't you, yes we do,
00:42:46.27\00:42:47.39
what it really
took, take a look at this,
00:42:47.40\00:42:49.20
yeah what happened here,
00:42:49.21\00:42:50.69
this was one our
35th wedding anniversary
00:42:50.70\00:42:53.87
I fit back into my
wedding dress again,
00:42:53.88\00:42:56.04
praise the Lord.
You know she used to
00:42:56.05\00:43:00.53
when we were kids she had her
00:43:00.54\00:43:02.84
wedding dress hanging out, yes,
00:43:02.85\00:43:04.87
and she used to
look at that dress and
00:43:04.88\00:43:06.49
say some day I'm
gonna fit back into that
00:43:06.50\00:43:08.61
and I used to
look at that dress and
00:43:08.62\00:43:10.79
say no way well my momma
00:43:10.80\00:43:12.03
never fit into
that, but she did it
00:43:12.04\00:43:15.49
and it's amazing. And I had gain
00:43:15.50\00:43:18.87
30 pounds within two
years of being married
00:43:18.88\00:43:21.92
and so basically
right after I was married
00:43:21.93\00:43:25.11
I was got no longer
fit into the dress, yeah,
00:43:25.12\00:43:28.50
and that I always
that always bothered me
00:43:28.51\00:43:30.75
and I've heard of
other women who would been
00:43:30.76\00:43:33.02
able to fit into
their wedding dress at their
00:43:33.03\00:43:34.95
35th, 40th, or
50th anniversary and
00:43:34.96\00:43:39.72
I wondered how they did that and
00:43:39.73\00:43:42.13
I had lot of
gained and all that weight
00:43:42.14\00:43:43.96
and I thought it's
just not gonna happen
00:43:43.97\00:43:46.58
and you know I
became very discouraged
00:43:46.59\00:43:49.52
because I felt like
I would you know that,
00:43:49.53\00:43:53.21
what was in that
big body was not me
00:43:53.22\00:43:56.31
that I knew I belonged skinny,
00:43:56.32\00:43:59.38
not skinny but slender, yeah,
00:43:59.39\00:44:02.50
and it just
wasn't happening until
00:44:02.51\00:44:06.07
I found this way of doing.
00:44:06.08\00:44:07.63
Now I want to ask
you because we talk
00:44:07.64\00:44:09.05
about exercise good doctor,
00:44:09.06\00:44:10.97
you do not show going to Jim
00:44:10.98\00:44:12.91
just beaten
yourself of, you are not term
00:44:12.92\00:44:14.63
run in the middle of
and that kind of thing,
00:44:14.64\00:44:16.19
we live in a
gravel country gravel road
00:44:16.20\00:44:18.56
we just walk the road.
00:44:18.57\00:44:19.83
We would walk maybe at first
00:44:19.84\00:44:22.38
we would about
15 minutes away from
00:44:22.39\00:44:24.46
the house and then come back and
00:44:24.47\00:44:26.45
then we walk 15 minutes in the
00:44:26.46\00:44:27.84
other direction and come back.
00:44:27.85\00:44:29.27
So about a mile roughly! Yeah,
00:44:29.28\00:44:30.93
it's say about a
mile and probably putting
00:44:30.94\00:44:33.62
on about two miles
a day at that point
00:44:33.63\00:44:35.72
eventually we were
able to increase that
00:44:35.73\00:44:38.69
to about three miles a
day that we were doing,
00:44:38.70\00:44:42.23
moderate pace, and
moderate pace whatever
00:44:42.24\00:44:44.45
was comfortable
for us and just enjoyed
00:44:44.46\00:44:48.52
nature and, you
were not beaten the stuff
00:44:48.53\00:44:50.02
of you can smell
a roses and kind of,
00:44:50.03\00:44:51.98
exactly yeah, the
point was to get up
00:44:51.99\00:44:54.58
and to move, yes,
and I found at home
00:44:54.59\00:44:57.47
I started feeling antsy if I sat
00:44:57.48\00:45:01.06
around too long. I had to get up
00:45:01.07\00:45:02.83
and start moving.
What a change right?
00:45:02.84\00:45:04.77
Yeah, yeah, once
she used to sit down,
00:45:04.78\00:45:06.65
yeah, yeah, and when
I we have a few steps
00:45:06.66\00:45:11.68
in our house and when I would
00:45:11.69\00:45:12.89
climb the steps when
I had all that weight on
00:45:12.90\00:45:15.28
and get to the top and
00:45:15.29\00:45:16.33
I was you know just
huffing and puffing.
00:45:16.34\00:45:19.57
Now I can go up and down
00:45:19.58\00:45:21.16
the steps day and night it
00:45:21.17\00:45:23.06
didn't bother a
bit, good for you,
00:45:23.07\00:45:25.00
and it doesn't today
I can climb those steps
00:45:25.01\00:45:28.03
and I am not
huffing and puffing.
00:45:28.04\00:45:29.28
Isn't
interesting? She is getting
00:45:29.29\00:45:30.86
older chronologically, yeah,
00:45:30.87\00:45:33.00
but she is getting
younger biologically,
00:45:33.01\00:45:35.26
yes, she is getting younger and
00:45:35.27\00:45:36.88
she is getting
older I mean this is,
00:45:36.89\00:45:38.65
and this must be a great joy for
00:45:38.66\00:45:40.23
you to see as a
daughter right. It is,
00:45:40.24\00:45:42.18
it's you know I say
every time I see her
00:45:42.19\00:45:45.01
she is younger than
the last time I saw her and
00:45:45.02\00:45:47.97
I really believe that
her everything about her is
00:45:47.98\00:45:51.74
just so much
younger than she used to be
00:45:51.75\00:45:54.61
you know, my whole childhood
00:45:54.62\00:45:56.01
she was low in
energy my dad would bring
00:45:56.02\00:46:00.74
her soda and, chocolate, and
00:46:00.75\00:46:05.71
junk food,
because she didn't want to
00:46:05.72\00:46:09.21
get up and get it,
then so she wouldn't
00:46:09.22\00:46:12.57
be working or
something and he would come
00:46:12.58\00:46:15.65
and bring it to
her and it just me to
00:46:15.66\00:46:18.20
probably worst but
you know and that's how
00:46:18.21\00:46:20.78
she wasn't that
was the majority of the
00:46:20.79\00:46:23.31
her that I knew
and now you know once
00:46:23.32\00:46:27.25
we got when I
went away for school
00:46:27.26\00:46:29.77
you know we where far apart,
00:46:29.78\00:46:31.44
and then the next
time I saw she was
00:46:31.45\00:46:34.35
getting thinner
and thinner and thinner
00:46:34.36\00:46:37.27
and now I you
know I only get to see
00:46:37.28\00:46:38.93
her a couple of
once or twice in a year
00:46:38.94\00:46:40.40
but every time I
see her she is younger
00:46:40.41\00:46:42.37
than she was before. Wow! Yeah,
00:46:42.38\00:46:44.59
she has got such a bright smile.
00:46:44.60\00:46:45.94
I wanted to ask
you this, because we
00:46:45.95\00:46:48.73
talked about the obvious
00:46:48.74\00:46:49.71
physical
benefits. What about your
00:46:49.72\00:46:51.97
mental outlook on life?
00:46:51.98\00:46:54.09
What about the
workings of your mind,
00:46:54.10\00:46:56.73
I mean your pep in your brain,
00:46:56.74\00:47:00.00
how your brain is
working your outlook
00:47:00.01\00:47:01.67
on life your joyful living,
00:47:01.68\00:47:03.47
did that change?
Oh my joy for living
00:47:03.48\00:47:05.30
went up a 100
percent. I mean it just,
00:47:05.31\00:47:08.48
life is fun now you know and
00:47:08.49\00:47:11.73
it's not work, it's not a job
00:47:11.74\00:47:13.93
I cab getting in
and out of the car
00:47:13.94\00:47:16.90
before was a job, you know just
00:47:16.91\00:47:19.19
getting into car
getting out of the car,
00:47:19.20\00:47:21.59
yeah, you know
and you know how the
00:47:21.60\00:47:25.35
restrooms are
with the little stalls
00:47:25.36\00:47:27.87
okay you felt
crowded in there but not
00:47:27.88\00:47:31.22
anymore you sit
in a chair I remember
00:47:31.23\00:47:33.94
sitting at a meeting
where I sat in a chair
00:47:33.95\00:47:36.72
and my hips hit the
sides of the chair and
00:47:36.73\00:47:40.74
after I lost the
weight I happened to be
00:47:40.75\00:47:43.00
at a meeting where
I sat that same chair
00:47:43.01\00:47:45.28
and now I had
plenty of inches there and
00:47:45.29\00:47:48.51
you know it was just you know
00:47:48.52\00:47:50.94
I just felt good,
and knowing that I can do
00:47:50.95\00:47:55.03
those things and
one of the motivating
00:47:55.04\00:47:57.32
factors and
really believe this is
00:47:57.33\00:47:59.43
something that's
really important for
00:47:59.44\00:48:01.42
people to do
when they want to make
00:48:01.43\00:48:02.83
lifestyle changes to have a
00:48:02.84\00:48:04.86
motivating
factor, something what
00:48:04.87\00:48:07.71
ultimately
drives their desire to
00:48:07.72\00:48:10.99
make that change. For me,
00:48:11.00\00:48:13.37
it was that I wanted to be there
00:48:13.38\00:48:15.94
for
grandchildren I didn't have any
00:48:15.95\00:48:18.12
grandchildren yet
but I know I probably
00:48:18.13\00:48:20.21
would some day and I didn't want
00:48:20.22\00:48:22.35
to just be there for them
00:48:22.36\00:48:23.81
I wanted to be able to
involved myself in them,
00:48:23.82\00:48:27.99
okay I wanted to
be able to get down
00:48:28.00\00:48:29.73
on the floor and play with them.
00:48:29.74\00:48:31.04
I wanted to be able to maybe jog
00:48:31.05\00:48:34.41
or run with them,
things like that and
00:48:34.42\00:48:38.76
I had also had
this mental picture
00:48:38.77\00:48:42.20
in my mind. I had seen a
00:48:42.21\00:48:43.35
lot of elderly people around me,
00:48:43.36\00:48:45.11
and like she mentioned
a lot of family members
00:48:45.12\00:48:48.27
that were had
weight problems and
00:48:48.28\00:48:50.68
health problems
as older people and
00:48:50.69\00:48:53.63
I would look at them and realize
00:48:53.64\00:48:57.16
what their lives
were like and those
00:48:57.17\00:48:59.08
who were overweight and on these
00:48:59.09\00:49:01.19
medications
diabetes cholesterol blood
00:49:01.20\00:49:03.77
pressure
medications they sat around
00:49:03.78\00:49:07.19
a lot and talked
about their problems
00:49:07.20\00:49:10.26
and they
appointment with the doctor here
00:49:10.27\00:49:12.70
and this upcoming
surgery for whatever,
00:49:12.71\00:49:17.03
yeah, you know
there and the high cost
00:49:17.04\00:49:20.31
of medications and
then well this medication
00:49:20.32\00:49:24.30
is causing these
side effects so now
00:49:24.31\00:49:26.17
I have to take
this other medication,
00:49:26.18\00:49:28.07
and you know these things were
00:49:28.08\00:49:29.78
going on when I
looked at elderly
00:49:29.79\00:49:32.10
people that were not overweight
00:49:32.11\00:49:34.22
who were basically normal weight
00:49:34.23\00:49:36.44
they were out enjoying life.
00:49:36.45\00:49:38.58
They were doing volunteer work
00:49:38.59\00:49:40.11
here there or
somewhere else they
00:49:40.12\00:49:42.02
were traveling
around the world or
00:49:42.03\00:49:44.01
to special places that enjoying,
00:49:44.02\00:49:46.53
enjoying life they
weren't sitting around
00:49:46.54\00:49:49.84
complaining about all
these other things and
00:49:49.85\00:49:52.68
I saw that and I was like I want
00:49:52.69\00:49:55.39
to be that older
slender person, yeah,
00:49:55.40\00:49:57.50
I don't want to be
that old fat person, yeah.
00:49:57.51\00:50:01.43
You see some people
talked about it right,
00:50:01.44\00:50:04.41
yeah, and other do
something about it,
00:50:04.42\00:50:06.82
and you from the
very beginning had
00:50:06.83\00:50:08.25
a very enquiring
mind you had some
00:50:08.26\00:50:12.65
principles in your mind that you
00:50:12.66\00:50:15.06
wanted to see
to be utilized in a
00:50:15.07\00:50:17.35
sensible weight
mentioned program,
00:50:17.36\00:50:19.56
you followed
them you won and then
00:50:19.57\00:50:22.67
your husband became
involved, your husband,
00:50:22.68\00:50:24.89
tell me a little
bit more about this.
00:50:24.90\00:50:26.97
Now you said he was
a diabetic he was on
00:50:26.98\00:50:29.11
medication, yes,
and after four weeks
00:50:29.12\00:50:31.77
his medications
was cut in half, right,
00:50:31.78\00:50:34.10
and is this all
medications? No, he is,
00:50:34.11\00:50:37.87
he lost the weight
and he is off of all
00:50:37.88\00:50:41.70
his medications and
it's been four years
00:50:41.71\00:50:45.27
now and in fact
after that first year
00:50:45.28\00:50:49.20
it was
interesting, he was because
00:50:49.21\00:50:51.93
he was type II
diabetic he was testing his
00:50:51.94\00:50:53.88
blood sugar everyday
and his doctor had said
00:50:53.89\00:50:56.44
he could test
just once every morning
00:50:56.45\00:50:58.51
fasting blood
sugar in the morning,
00:50:58.52\00:51:00.79
so he prick his finger
and got his blood test.
00:51:00.80\00:51:05.19
When he was off the medication
00:51:05.20\00:51:08.86
he continued to
run his blood tests.
00:51:08.87\00:51:10.69
Now he is
veterans so he was getting
00:51:10.70\00:51:12.89
his supplies through
the VA medical system,
00:51:12.90\00:51:16.30
and he would
send in for more blood
00:51:16.31\00:51:19.97
test strips,
blood sugar test strips.
00:51:19.98\00:51:22.23
Well about a year later he was
00:51:22.24\00:51:25.29
getting low on starting to get
00:51:25.30\00:51:26.90
low on this test
strips so he said
00:51:26.91\00:51:28.49
in this water for another batch
00:51:28.50\00:51:30.24
of test strips, and continue to
00:51:30.25\00:51:32.86
test and they, the test strips
00:51:32.87\00:51:35.23
weren't coming
and weren't coming and
00:51:35.24\00:51:36.73
he was almost
out of test strips.
00:51:36.74\00:51:38.31
So he called the
medical place and
00:51:38.32\00:51:41.21
asked them where
is the test strips
00:51:41.22\00:51:43.48
you know I'm almost out said,
00:51:43.49\00:51:45.76
well just a minute
we'll look at your records.
00:51:45.77\00:51:48.03
So they went to
look at his records and
00:51:48.04\00:51:50.39
came back on the
phone and they said
00:51:50.40\00:51:51.99
we are sorry Mr.
Gable we can't send you
00:51:52.00\00:51:54.37
test strips anymore
you are no longer diabetic.
00:51:54.38\00:51:57.14
I mean it's an
absolutely turnaround.
00:52:01.81\00:52:04.00
What a
discovery, isn't it? Yeah.
00:52:04.01\00:52:06.29
What a discovery to
make, no longer diabetic
00:52:06.30\00:52:09.16
and yet this is not
all that what should
00:52:09.17\00:52:12.64
I say unusual you
know we've seen some
00:52:12.65\00:52:15.40
50,000 people and 12 percent of
00:52:15.41\00:52:17.92
these diabetics, you know,
00:52:17.93\00:52:18.93
in our trip program
and it follows pretty
00:52:18.94\00:52:21.17
much the
science. Here is a book by
00:52:21.18\00:52:23.52
Dr. Neal Barnard
one of our friends he
00:52:23.53\00:52:27.09
has written a book
on reversing diabetes.
00:52:27.10\00:52:30.28
It's a
scientifically proven program to
00:52:30.29\00:52:34.11
reverse diabetes and
they basically use the
00:52:34.12\00:52:36.65
same course of us,
daily exercise half
00:52:36.66\00:52:39.51
an hour 45 minutes
is a diabetic, right,
00:52:39.52\00:52:41.80
and of course then
to eat more potatoes
00:52:41.81\00:52:45.11
truly so most of
the thing you cannot
00:52:45.12\00:52:47.33
eat potatoes no
problem when you integrated
00:52:47.34\00:52:50.28
into a healthy
dietary lifestyle with
00:52:50.29\00:52:53.27
the lot of fiber
it works magically and
00:52:53.28\00:52:56.11
I think that's
happening with your
00:52:56.12\00:52:57.80
husband right. That's right.
00:52:57.81\00:52:58.87
Has he been back
on medication is he
00:52:58.88\00:53:00.78
getting his strips or
what's happening? Well,
00:53:00.79\00:53:04.60
he kind of slacked
off on the lifestyle for a
00:53:04.61\00:53:08.30
little while and he
gained some weight back
00:53:08.31\00:53:10.55
and his numbers
started going back up again
00:53:10.56\00:53:13.74
and at one point
his doctor did put him
00:53:13.75\00:53:16.70
on the medications
again only for about
00:53:16.71\00:53:20.09
three months or six
months something like
00:53:20.10\00:53:22.13
that because when
that happened he got
00:53:22.14\00:53:24.12
back on the lifestyle, changed,
00:53:24.13\00:53:26.66
got to
exercising more eating more
00:53:26.67\00:53:29.68
healthfully again
and the weight started
00:53:29.69\00:53:32.16
coming off and the
numbers came back down
00:53:32.17\00:53:34.50
and he was able to get off the
00:53:34.51\00:53:35.97
medications
again. And that's true
00:53:35.98\00:53:37.57
also for the blood pressure
00:53:37.58\00:53:38.92
if I've been right. Yes,
00:53:38.93\00:53:39.90
the blood
pressure the cholesterol,
00:53:39.91\00:53:41.16
and the diabetes,
all three of them.
00:53:41.17\00:53:42.79
No medications? He
was off of all three
00:53:42.80\00:53:45.32
and during this
short period of time
00:53:45.33\00:53:47.70
where he gained
that weight back again
00:53:47.71\00:53:49.80
he got put back on all three,
00:53:49.81\00:53:51.61
but again by
changing his lifestyle
00:53:51.62\00:53:54.76
back to the
CHIP lifestyle, yeah,
00:53:54.77\00:53:56.60
he brought that
all down again and
00:53:56.61\00:53:58.27
got off of them again.
00:53:58.28\00:53:59.31
See there is the answer for
00:53:59.32\00:54:00.69
Health Care
Crisis in America right.
00:54:00.70\00:54:02.75
Seventy percent
of our health issues
00:54:02.76\00:54:09.58
relate to lifestyle issues.
00:54:09.59\00:54:10.56
They relate to how we eat,
00:54:10.57\00:54:14.15
how we drink, how we exercise
00:54:14.16\00:54:16.30
to be smoked,
and that's really the
00:54:16.31\00:54:18.02
challenge how do you
really motivate people,
00:54:18.03\00:54:20.84
yeah, how do you
inspire people to do it
00:54:20.85\00:54:23.08
and you know I
guess you found some
00:54:23.09\00:54:25.49
of the answers in
the micro CHIP program
00:54:25.50\00:54:27.87
and you then became involved in
00:54:27.88\00:54:29.68
the CHIP program, right you are
00:54:29.69\00:54:31.53
one of the leaders
now and a talent in
00:54:31.54\00:54:33.53
CHIP program
conducting right, yes.
00:54:33.54\00:54:35.50
We after a year or
a after I lost that
00:54:35.51\00:54:38.73
first 50 pounds I
was like I want to
00:54:38.74\00:54:40.71
know more about
the full CHIP program,
00:54:40.72\00:54:43.92
what does it
involved, what do you do,
00:54:43.93\00:54:46.96
and there was a
training session coming
00:54:46.97\00:54:49.66
up for teaching CHIP
leaders how to conduct
00:54:49.67\00:54:53.07
a CHIP program and
so I ask the church
00:54:53.08\00:54:55.64
to help sponsor me
to go to one of those
00:54:55.65\00:54:58.40
CHIP training
programs and they helped back
00:54:58.41\00:55:01.97
me for running CHIP
program at our church,
00:55:01.98\00:55:04.65
wow. And, they agree to do that,
00:55:04.66\00:55:07.16
now you said some I
got to stop you because
00:55:07.17\00:55:08.63
we did really, we
did really put a pin
00:55:08.64\00:55:10.28
into this
because you are attending
00:55:10.29\00:55:12.72
Reverend Seminar you moved into
00:55:12.73\00:55:15.22
micro CHIP but during that time
00:55:15.23\00:55:17.40
something else's
happening in your life
00:55:17.41\00:55:19.17
as far as your
relationship with the
00:55:19.18\00:55:21.05
Adventist church as concern.
00:55:21.06\00:55:22.22
And you said my church, right,
00:55:22.23\00:55:26.20
at my church is,
okay what happened
00:55:26.21\00:55:29.47
was there
because of my changes and
00:55:29.48\00:55:32.60
that you know I
recognized at this
00:55:32.61\00:55:34.93
really was whole truth not the
00:55:34.94\00:55:38.29
there weren't
hiding anything here.
00:55:38.30\00:55:39.76
I mean I had
scientific evidence to show,
00:55:39.77\00:55:41.96
yes, that and plus
my own life experience
00:55:41.97\00:55:45.53
to show that what
we were being taught
00:55:45.54\00:55:47.92
was full truth by the Bible,
00:55:47.93\00:55:51.19
by the science everything this
00:55:51.20\00:55:53.28
church wasn't hiding anything.
00:55:53.29\00:55:54.81
This church was
telling us full truth
00:55:54.82\00:55:56.89
and they were trying
to live by the things
00:55:56.90\00:55:58.93
that they were teaching and
00:55:58.94\00:56:00.50
I made the decision for Baptism.
00:56:00.51\00:56:02.19
Praise the Lord,
and I was baptized.
00:56:02.20\00:56:04.04
So you are
running the CHIP program
00:56:04.05\00:56:05.50
now as the
Adventist church? Yes,
00:56:05.51\00:56:06.98
I am running the program and
00:56:06.99\00:56:08.37
in fact in
Savannah, Illinois in February
00:56:08.38\00:56:11.52
we will be running
our six programs, wow!
00:56:11.53\00:56:13.95
Great! Your sixth
program, well done!
00:56:13.96\00:56:16.27
Do we have enough time for that
00:56:16.28\00:56:17.52
two minute clips of
her wedding dress story?
00:56:17.53\00:56:19.74
Actually we will do
it at the top of the
00:56:19.75\00:56:21.98
second hour because
we just slipped over,
00:56:21.99\00:56:24.14
it's a great story that CHIP,
00:56:24.15\00:56:26.97
I don't think you
saw when you first
00:56:26.98\00:56:29.39
got a CHIP that it would be
00:56:29.40\00:56:30.37
in Evangelistic. We wanted to
00:56:30.38\00:56:34.59
help people right, indeed,
00:56:34.60\00:56:36.19
and look what
happened to her, yeah,
00:56:36.20\00:56:38.03
but it's
Evangelistic Endeavor and
00:56:38.04\00:56:41.37
we praise the Lord for that.
00:56:41.38\00:56:42.35
Now when we come
back in the second half
00:56:42.36\00:56:45.53
Wendy also has a
story because as we seen,
00:56:45.54\00:56:49.39
Nancy was moving
along Wendy had left
00:56:49.40\00:56:52.65
home was not brought up in the
00:56:52.66\00:56:54.79
Adventist faith, she is now in
00:56:54.80\00:56:56.39
Adventist little
rocky road, dare we say,
00:56:56.40\00:57:00.31
but once from mom
began to lose weight
00:57:00.32\00:57:05.43
lifestyle
change, habits changed,
00:57:05.44\00:57:08.53
and of course when
you got something good
00:57:08.54\00:57:10.93
you want to share
it, that's what happens
00:57:10.94\00:57:14.17
when you've got
something good you want
00:57:14.18\00:57:15.26
to share it, and sometimes
00:57:15.27\00:57:16.24
when you want to
share it the people
00:57:16.25\00:57:17.72
that you want to share it with
00:57:17.73\00:57:18.90
are not quite
so ready to receive
00:57:18.91\00:57:21.42
what you have. So sparks fly
00:57:21.43\00:57:24.11
good doctor. And sometimes
00:57:24.12\00:57:28.22
feelings get hurt so we want to
00:57:28.23\00:57:29.64
mind that story
when we come back in the
00:57:29.65\00:57:31.76
second half and
we'll put the focus of
00:57:31.77\00:57:34.47
spotlight on
Wendy just a little bit
00:57:34.48\00:57:36.33
and see how Nancy's
experience played out
00:57:36.34\00:57:39.22
in Wendy's life, stay tune get a
00:57:39.23\00:57:41.39
drink of water come on back and
00:57:41.40\00:57:43.35
we'll see in just two minutes.
00:57:43.36\00:57:49.65