¤ >>> HELLO AND
WELCOME TO THE SEC
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HOUR OF 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
OUR SPECIAL GUEST TONIGHT IS
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HEATHER-DAWN SMALL, WHO IS
THE DIRECT OF THE OF WOMEN'S
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MINISTRIES FOR THE AGAIN MALL
CONFERENCE OF THE SEVENTH-DAY
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ADVENTIST CHURCH. WE
HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOME
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TOUCHY TOPICS -- SOME DIFFICULT
TOPICS, AND WE'RE GOING TO
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CONTINUE DOING THAT, AND WE WANT
TO COME BACK AND ANSWER GLENA'S
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QUESTION JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE,
BUT BEFORE WE DO, AND BEFORE WE
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GET THIS SECOND HOUR KICKED OFF,
WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE VONDA
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BEERMAN BACK, AND JUST TO GIVE
US A LITTLE TIME OF REFRESHING.
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SHE IS GOING TO
SING FOR US, "COME."
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¤ COME WHEN YOUR
HEART IS HEAVY LADEN ¤
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¤ FEELING LIKE
THE JOY HAS FADED ¤
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¤ JUST COME ¤ ¤ COME ¤
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¤ BELIEVING
EVERYTHING I TOLD YOU ¤
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¤ HEAR THAT I LONG TO
HOLD YOU ¤ ¤ JUST COME ¤
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¤ COME ¤ ¤ LEAVE
BEHIND THE MASK YOU HIDE
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IN ¤ ¤ THERE IS
SOMEONE TO CONFIDE
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IN ¤ ¤ I KNOW
WHAT YOU HAVE DONE ¤
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¤ COME ¤ ¤ AND TELL
ME EVERYTHING YOU ARE
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HOPING ¤ ¤ MY HEART IS OPEN ¤
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¤ JUST COME ¤ ¤ I
KNOW WHO YOU ARE ¤
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¤ DON'T TRY TO
BE SOMEBODY ELSE ¤
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¤ COME ¤ ¤
BELIEVING EVERYTHING I TOLD
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YOU ¤ ¤ HEAR ALL
THAT I LONG TO HOLD
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YOU ¤ ¤ JUST COME ¤
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¤ COME ¤ ¤ COME
INTO THE JOY OF LIVING ¤
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¤ KNOWING THAT
YOUR SINS FORGIVEN ¤
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¤ JUST COME ¤
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¤ I KNOW WHO YOU ARE ¤
¤ DON'T TRY TO BE SOMEBODY
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ELSE ¤ ¤ COME ¤
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¤ WHEN YOUR
HEART IS HEAVY LADEN ¤
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¤ FEELING LIKE
THE JOY HAS FADED ¤
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¤ WON'T YOU COME ¤ ¤ COME ¤
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¤ COME INTO THE JOY OF LIVING
¤ ¤ KNOWING THAT YOUR SIN'S
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FORGIVEN ¤ ¤ JUST COME ¤
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¤ JUST COME ¤
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>> SUCH A PRECIOUS SISTER,
PRECIOUS PERSON, AND SUCH A PRO
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HOUSE VOICE. HER
VOICE IS SO SOOTHING.
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I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT
AND TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT IS
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PERSONAL -- I'LL TRY TO
MAKE THIS REALLY FAST, BUT
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SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU GLENNA, WE
HAVE ALL -- I THINK MANY PEOPLE
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HAVE BEEN IN A DARK PLACE, AND I
GREW UP IN A VERY DYSFUNCTIONAL
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ENVIRONMENT. MY
MOTHER HAD TRIED TO COMMIT
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SUICIDE SEVERAL TIMES, AND SHE
WAS BIPOLAR, AND MY FATHER WAS
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KILLED WHEN I WAS SIX, SO
IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO
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UNDERSTAND WHY MY MOTHER WOULD
THINK ABOUT KILLING HERSELF AND
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LEAVING TWO CHILDREN
BEHIND. NOW I HAVE TO -- IN ALL
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FAIRNESS, THE FIRST TIME, IT WAS
BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN DIAGNOSED
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WITH CANCER, AND SHE JUST
THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO SAVE
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THE FAMILY MONEY AND --
AND PROBLEMS BY ENDING HERSELF.
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BUT I GOT TO A POINT ONCE IN MY
LIFE WHERE I HAD VERTIGO 24/7.
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NEVER STOPPED. I WAS
SPINNING LIKE A TOP FOR A
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WHOLE YEAR,
JUST ROUND AND ROUND.
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COULDN'T FUNCION. IT
WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO
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FUNCTION. COULDN'T READ.
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COULDN'T GET INTO THE WORD, AND
I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT I GOT INTO
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BED. MY HUSBAND WAS OUT OF TOWN.
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I WAS ACTUALLY
STAYING WITH MY IN LAWS.
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MY MOTHER-IN-LAW HAD COLON
CANCER AND JUST HAD SURGERY, MY
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FATHER-IN-LAW WAS IN EARLY
ALWAYS, AND I HAD A REBELLIOUS
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15-YEAR-OLD NIECE THAT WE WERE
ALSO CARING FOR, AND I GOT INTO
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BED THAT NIGHT, AND I SAID
OUT LOUD AS THE WORLD WAS STILL
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SPINNING, I SAID NOW I
KNOW WHY YOU DID IT, MOMMA.
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AND WHAT I MEANT WAS, I
HAD NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE
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HOPELESSNESS MY MOTHER FELT, BUT
I HAD GOTTEN TO THAT POINT TO
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UNDERSTAND. IT WAS
FEELING HOPELESS THAT
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MAKES YOU CONSIDER SUICIDE.
THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE
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ANYMORE. NOW I
DIDN'T GET TO THE POINT OF
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FEELING SUICIDAL, BUT I HAD THE
EMOTIONAL IDENTIFICATION WITH
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THE WHY OF IT, AND THAT
SCARED ME HALF TO DEATH.
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>> YEAH. >> I
MEAN, I WAS CRYING OUT TO
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THE LORD, SAYING IF I CAN GET
THIS LOW, WHAT IF I GET LOWER?
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WHAT IF I DO THINK ABOUT THAT?
AND IT WAS THE VERY NEXT DAY
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THAT THE LORD IMPRESSED UPON
ME THAT HIS WORD WAS LIFE TO ME,
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AND TO GET INTO HIS WORD, AND
TO GET HIS PROMISES, AND TO PRAY
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HIS PROMISES BACK TO HIM AND
TO SPEAK THE OVER MY LIFE, AND I
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DID IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS,
BUT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FAITH, AND
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THEN IT WAS -- ONE DAY, I
WAS SAYING, LORD, DID YOU REALLY
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IMPRESS ME TO DO
THIS? OR IS THIS JUST MY OWN
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IMAGINATION. THAT'S
WHEN THE LORD LEAD ME TO
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ISAIAH, 55:11, THAT HIS
WORD DOESN'T RETURN TO HIM VOID.
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HE LEAD ME TO JEREMIAH 1:12
SAYING HE WATCHES OVER HIS WORD
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TO PERFORM IT. AND
ROMANS 17, WHERE IT SAYS
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THAT GOD IS A GOD WHO GIVES LIFE
TO THE DEAD AND CALLS THAT ARE
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NOT AS THOUGH THEY ALREADY WERE.
IN OTHER WORDS HE KNOWS THE END
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FROM THE BEGINNING, AND WHEN HE
GIVES YOU THIS PROMISE, HE KNOWS
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HE IS GOING TO BRING IT TO PASS,
HE IS JUST WAITING FOR US TO
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RECEIVE IT WITH FAITH. AND
GLENNA, I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE
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WHO HAS SEEN THE
POWER OF GOD'S WORD.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. .
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>> YOU HAVE A VERY TRAUMATIC
STORY IN HOW GOD BROUGHT YOU OUT
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OF DARKNESS
THROUGH HIS WORD. >> YES.
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I ALMOST -- I'M
TEMPTED TO ASK YOU WHICH ONE.
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BUT I -- [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> I KNOW THE ONE YOU ARE
REFERRING TO, AND I JUST WANT
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GLENNA TO KNOW, IT DOESN'T -- IT
DOESN'T ALWAYS END BECAUSE YOU
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HAVE BEEN THROUGH ONE
TRAGIC THING, AND YOU FEEL OKAY.
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WELL, EVERYTHING IS GOING
TO BE FINE FROM THIS POINT ON.
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WHEN I LOST -- WHEN -- WHEN MY
HUSBAND AND I LOST OUR SON, HE
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WAS FOUR YEARS OLD, AND
HE WAS THE JOY OF OUR LIFE.
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WE HAD TWO CHILDREN AT
THE TIME. MY DAUGHTER WAS TWO.
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MY SON WAS FOUR. HE
WAS ATTACKED BY A DOG, MY
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FATHER'S DOG WHO WAS A DOBERMAN
DOG AND HE DIED IN HOSPITAL NOT
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BECAUSE THE ATTACK WAS SO
SEVERE, BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN
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BITTEN IN THE HEAD TWICE, BUT
BECAUSE SOMEONE FORGOT TO ASK US
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IF HE HAD EATEN ANYTHING THAT
MORNING, AND HE HAD CORN FLAKES
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AND MILK, AND DRANK SOME ORANGE
JUICE, AND WHEN THEY PUT HIM TO
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SLEEP IN THE SURGERY -- WELL,
NOT IN THE SURGERY, IN THE ER,
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THAT CAME UP AND WENT INTO HIS
LUNGS AND HE STOPPED BREATHING,
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AND THEY GOT HIS HEART STARTED
AGAIN, AND HE STOPPED BREATHING
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TWICE, AND THE THIRD TIME, THEY
COULDN'T GET HIS HEART STARTED
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AGAIN, AND SO, YES, THAT REALLY
WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR
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US. I MEAN YOU
KNOW -- AND I KNOW
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FOR SOME PEOPLE THIS MAY SEEM
STRANGE, BUT IT WAS -- IT WAS
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THE WORST AND THE BEST
EXPERIENCE THAT I HAVE HAD IN MY
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LIFE. >> I -- I AGREE WITH YOU.
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I KNOW WHERE YOU
ARE GOING. >> EXACTLY.
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PRIOR TO THAT, MY HUSBAND AND
I HAD BECOME -- WE HAD GOTTEN TO
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THE BRINK OF DIVORCE. TWO
WEEKS BEFORE OUR SON DIED,
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WE WERE READY FOR DIVORCE
-- >> HE WAS A PASTOR AT THIS
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POINT? >> NO, HE WASN'T.
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AND HE HAD BEEN ARGUING AND
FUSSING AND FIGHTING IT SEEMED
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LIKE TO ME THE ENTIRE MARRIAGE.
AT THAT TIME IT HAD ONLY BEEN
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FIVE YEARS. AND WE
SAT DOWN IN OUR ROOM ONE
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RIGHT, AFTER THE KIDS WERE
PUT TO BED, AND WE WERE TALKING
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ABOUT SEPARATING, AND I
SAID YES, I WANT A DIVORCE.
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AND IN MY MIND AND MY HEART,
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY FEELINGS LEFT
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FOR MY HUSBAND.
I SAID THAT'S IT.
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I'M NIRN FINISHED. HE
SAID GO, BECAUSE WE WERE
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LIVING IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE.
AND I THOUGHT HE COULD LEAVE,
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AND MY KIDS AND I WOULD STAY
WITH MY FATHER, AND AS WE TALKED
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AND TALKED INTO THE NIGHT,
INTO THE WEE HOURS, AFTER A LONG
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PERIOD OF SILENCE, MY HUSBAND
SAID THERE IS ONE THING WE
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HAVEN'T DONE, AND IMMEDIATELY
I KNEW WHAT HE WAS GOING TO SAY.
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WE HAD BOTH GOING TO GROW
UP SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS.
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AND I KNEW HE WAS
GOING TO SAY WE NEED TO PRAY.
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AND I SAID, YES, BUT
I DON'T WANT TO DO IT.
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HE SAID WHAT WOULD GOD WANT?
AND I SAID I KNOW WHAT HE WANTS,
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BUT I DON'T WANT THAT.
THAT WAS HIS WILL, NOT MY WILL,
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AND I FINALLY
AGREED. AND I SAID, OKAY.
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LET ME GET HIM OFF OF
MY CASE, SO I SAID OKAY.
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LET'S PRAY. SO WE
KNELT BY THE BED AND WE
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PRAYED. AND MY
PRAYER WAS VERY SIMPLE
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AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT
WAS DEAR GOD, I DON'T LOVE
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THIS MAN, I DON'T LIKE THIS MAN,
I WANT TO LEAVE THIS MAN, AMEN.
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THAT WAS IT. I
DIDN'T WANT TO GO INTO
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ANYTHING ELSE. AND
MY HUSBAND PRAYED A VERY
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NICE PRAYER, I'M SURE.
BUT I KNEW WHAT MY PRAYER WAS.
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AND THEN MY HUSBAND SAID MAYBE
WE SHOULD DO THIS FOR TWO WEEKS.
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AND I THOUGHT, OH, GOOD GRIEF,
IF IT TAKES TWO WEEKS FOR ME TO
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GET RID OF HIM,
OKAY, LET'S DO IT.
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SO EVERY NIGHT WE WOULD KNEEL
BY THE BED AND MY PRAYER WAS THE
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SAME. SOMEWHERE IN
THE SECOND MOVE, MY
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PRAYER CHANGED. AND IT
WAS STILL, LORD, I DON'T
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LOVE THIS MAN, I DON'T LIKE THIS
MAN, I DON'T WANT TO STAY WITH
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THIS MAN, BUT IF THERE IS
SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN DO, THEN
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OKAY. AND COMING
TO THE END OF THE
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SECOND WEEK, MY PRAYER CHANGED
AGAIN, BECAUSE NOW IT WAS, BUT
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IF YOU CAN LOVE
HIM THROUGH ME, OKAY.
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THE DAY AFTER THEN OF
THOSE TWO WEEKS, MY SON DIED.
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>> OH. >> NOW WE
HAD RECOMMITTED OUR
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LIFE TO THE LORD ON THE SECOND
TO LAST NIGHT OF THOSE TWO WEEKS
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OF PRAYER, AND WE SAID OKAY
LORD, WE KNOW YOU WANT US TO
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STAY TOGETHER, AND WE ARE
GOING TO DEPEND ON YOU FOR THI.
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TWO DAYS LATER, MY SON DIED.
AND EVERYBODY ASKS WHY DOES GOD
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ALLOW THAT STUFF? SO WE
WENT THROUGH THAT PHRASE,
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AND IT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT
TIME, ESPECIALLY FOR MY HUSBAND,
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BECAUSE WHEN A CHILD DIES,
EVERYBODY CIRCLES THE MOTHER,
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AND THE POOR FATHER IS
LEFT OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.
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AND MY HUSBAND WENT THROUGH
SOME VERY DIFFICULT TIMES.
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HE HAD TO WITNESS MY
SON'S AUTOPSY, BECAUSE IT WAS
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CONSIDERED A POLICE CASE, AND IT
WAS JUST A LOT OF STUFF, AND I
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FOUND MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
CHRIST AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU,
00:14:05.17\00:14:09.94
THROUGH A LITTLE BOOK CALLED "TO
KNOW GOD," THAT MY SISTER-IN-LAW
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SENT FOR ME, AND WE WERE
IN TRINIDAD THEN.-SHE WAS IN
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BARBADOS. >> WHAT WAS
THE TITLE? >> "TO KNOW GOD."
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IT IS STILL IN CHRISTIAN
BOOKSTORES, AND YOU CAN GET IT
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ON AMAZON.COM, OF COURSE.
BUT IT TAUGHT ME SOMETHING I HAD
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NEVER BEEN TAUGHT BEFORE, HOW TO
HAVE A DAY BY DAY RELATIONSHIP
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WITH GOD. I KNEW FAMILY WORSHIP.
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I KNEW GOING TO
CHURCH ON SABBATH DAY.
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I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS TO
SPEND TIME IN THE WORD BETWEEN
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ME AND GOD. I
HADN'T BEEN TAUGHT THAT, SO
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THAT OPENED UP A
WHOLE NEW THING FOR ME.
00:15:01.66\00:15:04.47
BUT THE DEVIL DOESN'T LIKE FOR
THINGS TO GO -- YOU KNOW, THINGS
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COME IN THAT
SHOULDN'T BE IN THERE.
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SO IN THE YEARS AFTER THAT -- AS
TIME PASSED, I SHARED THAT WITH
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MY HUSBAND. WE HAD
A WHOLE NEW SPIRITUAL
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TURN AROUND. WE
WERE LIKE NEW CHRISTIANS,
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LIKE WE HAD JUST BEEN BAPTIZED.
IT WAS LIKE A NEW EXPERIENCE,
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AND IT WAS SO AMAZING THAT
THE WAY GOD CHANGED OUR LIVES AT
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THAT TIME -- >> YEAH.
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IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU
GET THE WORD OF GOD IN YOU, WHEN
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YOU HAVE THE -- THE KNOWLEDGE
THAT GOD WANTS A PERSONAL
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RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU, AND THAT
THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU HAVE,
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THAT IS LIFE CHANGING. >>
YEAH, BUT I WAS STILL CAUGHT
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UP IN THE WHAT
MUST I DO TO BE SAVED?
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>> OH YEAH. >>
SO I HAD THAT DAILY
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RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. I
SHARED IT WITH MY HUSBAND, NOW
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HE HAD IT. BUT I
STILL FELT WHAT MUST I BE
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DOING? THERE IS
SOMETHING I MUST BE
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DOING. AND
SALVATION BY WORK WAS STILL
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VERY MUCH ENGRAINED IN MY MIND.
YEARS LATER -- THIS WAS IN 1990,
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MY SON DIED IN 1985, 13 YEARS
AFTER THAT, SOMETHING HAPPENED
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THAT COMPLETELY BROKE ME, AND IT
WASN'T -- IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF A
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BIG TRIAL THAT HAD COME.
IT WAS LITTLE THINGS THAT CAME
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ALONG THE WAY, THAT ALL PILED
UP, LITTLE TRIALS, THAT PILED
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UP, ADDED TO WHICH, I HAD
NOT BEEN LOOKING AFTER MYSELF.
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I HAD BEEN SO BUSY WORKING
FOR THE LORD, BECAUSE WAS IN THE
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CHURCH -- I MEAN
WORKING IN THE CHURCH.
00:16:59.75\00:17:03.79
I WAS SO BUSY WORKING FOR THE
LORD, THAT MY TIME WITH HIM WAS
00:17:03.79\00:17:09.46
NEGLECTED. TOO BUSY,
GOT TO DO THIS, GOT TO
00:17:09.46\00:17:12.29
DO THAT. >> SURE.
00:17:12.29\00:17:13.86
>> SO PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, THE
DEVIL BROUGHT ALL OF THIS STUF.
00:17:13.86\00:17:18.33
YEAH, BUT I CONTRIBUTED, BECAUSE
SOMETIMES WE GIVE THE DEVIL THE
00:17:18.33\00:17:23.34
TOOLS HE NEEDS TO GET TO
US. MY HEALTH WAS NOT IN GOOD
00:17:23.34\00:17:28.94
CONDITION. WAS
WORKING, WORKING, WORKING,
00:17:28.94\00:17:31.38
AND ONE INCIDENT HAPPENED WITH
A LITTLE BOY IN OUR CHURCH, WHO
00:17:31.38\00:17:35.02
HAD -- THE CHURCH THAT MY
HUSBAND WAS PASTORING THEN, WHO
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HAD HAD AN ACCIDENT AND HAD
DAMAGED HIS HEAD, AND, YOU KNOW,
00:17:38.82\00:17:43.96
EVERYBODY THOUGHT HE WAS GOING
TO DIE, AND WE PRAYED FOR HIM,
00:17:43.96\00:17:46.39
AND HE LIVED, AND HE WAS MAYBE
ABOUT 11 OR 12, AND HIS MOTHER
00:17:46.39\00:17:53.50
CAME TO CHURCH ONE MONTH
AFTER HE WAS UP AND ABOUT, GAV A
00:17:53.50\00:17:58.67
TESTIMONY IN CHURCH, AND THE
DEVIL WHISPERED IN MY EAR, HOW
00:17:58.67\00:18:05.38
COME GOD SAVED THIS WOMAN'S
SON WHEN YOU PRAYED FOR HER, AND
00:18:05.38\00:18:10.69
WHEN YOU PRAYED FOR
YOUR SON, HE DIDN'T.
00:18:10.69\00:18:14.22
THIS WAS 13 YEARS LATER, BUT
SPIRITUALLY, EMOTIONALLY, AND
00:18:14.22\00:18:18.99
PHYSICALLY, I WAS IN NO PLACE
TO DEAL WITH THAT ONE SENTENCE.
00:18:18.99\00:18:23.40
AND I BECAME ANGRY AGAINST GOD.
I DIN'T WANT TO TALK TO HIM.
00:18:23.40\00:18:26.87
I DIDN'T WANT TO PRAY,
AND FOR MONTHS I DIDN'T.
00:18:26.87\00:18:30.24
BUT MY HEALTH GOT WORSE AND
WORSE, AND EVENTUALLY MY DAD AND
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MY HUSBAND SENT ME ON A TRIP
FROM TRINIDAD TO CALIFORNIA TO
00:18:34.61\00:18:38.75
STAY WITH MY SISTER AND SAID GO
AND GET SOME REST, AND MY SISTER
00:18:38.75\00:18:42.62
IS A PSYCHOLOGIST, AND I DID NOT
WANT TO STAY WITH MY SISTER, SO
00:18:42.62\00:18:46.82
I MADE THEM PROMISE THAT
THEY WOULD NOT TELL HER WHAT WAS
00:18:46.82\00:18:50.59
HAPPENING WITH ME, BECAUSE
IF SHE BEGAN TO CRAWL THROUGH MY
00:18:50.59\00:18:53.70
BRAIN, I WAS GOING TO
LEAVE AND COME BACK HOME.
00:18:53.70\00:18:57.27
SO THEY DIDN'T TELL HER
ANYTHING, AND I REMEMBER WHEN I
00:18:57.27\00:18:59.50
GOT THERE, I -- I HAD BOUGHT
SOME GIFTS FROM THE ISLAND FROM
00:18:59.50\00:19:05.64
TRINIDAD FOR MY SISTER, AND
SHE HAD A NICE GIFT BAG FOR ME.
00:19:05.64\00:19:11.58
NOW I REMEMBER THE NIGHT BEFORE
I LEFT AS I WAS PACKING MY
00:19:11.58\00:19:15.65
SUITCASE, I PICKED UP MY BIBLE
BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS BY MY BED,
00:19:15.65\00:19:21.46
I IGNORED IT, BUT IT WAS THERE.
I WAS PUTTING IT IN MY SUITCASE,
00:19:21.46\00:19:26.29
AND THEN I
THOUGHT, I DON'T NEED THIS.
00:19:26.29\00:19:28.46
AND PUT IT BACK. AND
I CLOSED MY SUITCASE AND
00:19:28.46\00:19:33.10
LEFT. PEOPLE
THINK YOU CAN RUN FROM
00:19:33.10\00:19:36.04
GOD, BUT YOU CAN'T. AND I
GOT TO HER HOME, AND AFTER
00:19:36.04\00:19:40.11
WE HAD MET AND EATEN AND WE SAID
GOOD NIGHT, AND SHE GAVE ME THE
00:19:40.11\00:19:45.08
GIFT BAG, AND I GIVE HER GIFTS.
I SAT ON THE BED WITH THIS GIFT
00:19:45.08\00:19:50.72
BAG, AND I THOUHT LET ME
SEE WHAT MY SISTER HAS GIVEN ME.
00:19:50.72\00:19:54.92
AND IN IT WAS THREE BOOKS.
FIRST WAS A BOOK BY A CHRISTIAN
00:19:54.92\00:20:02.93
AUTHOR CALLED "LORD HEAL
MY HURTS," AND THE SECOND WAS
00:20:02.93\00:20:11.57
"DISAPPOINTMENT WITH GOD", AND
BOY WAS I DISAPPOINTED WITH GOD,
00:20:11.57\00:20:15.31
AND THE THIRD WAS A BIBLE.
AND WHEN I SAW THAT BIBLE, I WAS
00:20:15.31\00:20:20.22
SO ANGRY, AND I JUST LOOKED
AT THAT BIBLE, AND I SAID, OKAY,
00:20:20.22\00:20:24.25
LORD, I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO
YOU, BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT TO
00:20:24.25\00:20:27.92
TALK TO ME, SO WE'RE GOING TO
TALK, AND THE NEXT MORNING WHEN
00:20:27.92\00:20:31.66
MY SISTER WENT TO WORK, I WAS
THERE WITH HER FOR A FEW WEEKS,
00:20:31.66\00:20:35.56
FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS EVERY
MORNING WHEN SHE WENT TO WORK, I
00:20:35.56\00:20:40.14
WOULD GO IN MY ROOM, CLOSE THE
DOOR, CLOSE THE BLINDS AND SIT
00:20:40.14\00:20:44.71
ON THAT BED AND SCREAM AT GOD.
I TOLD HIM HE DIDN'T LOVE ME.
00:20:44.71\00:20:49.18
I TOLD HIM HE
DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME.
00:20:49.18\00:20:51.01
I TOLD HIM HE HAD FAVORITES, I
SAID ALL SORTS OF THINGS TO GOD,
00:20:51.01\00:20:59.82
AND THANKFULLY HE
IS A COMPASSIONATE GOD.
00:20:59.82\00:21:06.06
I DID IT EVERY MORNING.
WHEN I THOUGHT I HAD NOTHING
00:21:06.06\00:21:08.86
MORE TO SAY, I WOULD GET UP
AND LEAVE THE BIBLE ON THE BED.
00:21:08.86\00:21:14.44
I NEVER OPENED IT, I JUST PUT
IT THERE, BECAUSE IT REPRESENTED
00:21:14.44\00:21:19.11
HIM. AND AT THE
END OF TWO WEEKS I
00:21:19.11\00:21:22.24
HAD NOTHING MORE TO SAY,
AND FINALLY, I SAID, OKAY, LORD,
00:21:22.24\00:21:26.08
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY TO
ME? AND I OPENED UP HIS WORD AND
00:21:26.08\00:21:33.32
STARTED TO READ, AND GOD JUST
POINTED ME IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
00:21:33.32\00:21:36.69
AND HIS WORD
HEALED MY HEART. >> AMEN.
00:21:36.69\00:21:39.86
>> I WAS TOO ANGRY, BUT
I HAD TO GET MY ANGRY OUT.
00:21:39.86\00:21:43.90
>> IT TOOK THE WORD TO HEAL YOU.
>> SOMETIMES WE HOLD ANGER IN,
00:21:43.90\00:21:49.87
AND IT'S A LIKE A BLOCKED PIPE.
THINK OF A DRAINPIPE FROM GOD'S
00:21:49.87\00:21:53.98
HEART TO YOUR HEART, AND IT'S
CLOGGED WITH ALL OF THIS ANGER
00:21:53.98\00:21:57.38
YOU HAVE AGAINST GOD AND ALL
OF THIS DISAPPOINTMENT, AND GOD
00:21:57.38\00:22:03.25
WANTS TO LOVE YOU, BUT HE CAN'T,
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL OF THAT
00:22:03.25\00:22:06.99
STUFF IN THERE. WHEN I
LET IT OUT, THE PIPE WAS
00:22:06.99\00:22:11.26
CLEARED NOW, AND GOD COULD REACH
DOWN TO ME, AND HE JUST BEGAN TO
00:22:11.26\00:22:15.43
HEAL AND MINISTER TO MY HEART,
AND THAT WAS THE BEGINNING OF ME
00:22:15.43\00:22:19.67
KNOWING AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT
IT WAS TO BE COMFORTED BY GOD.
00:22:19.67\00:22:23.20
>> AMEN. AMEN.
00:22:23.20\00:22:25.14
HE IS SUCH AN AWESOME
GOD. >> OH, YES HE IS.
00:22:25.14\00:22:28.58
>> AND I HOPE -- I HOPE
FOR GLENNA, IF YOU ARE STILL
00:22:28.58\00:22:33.95
LISTENING, GLENNA,
THAT YOU LET GOD IN.
00:22:33.95\00:22:36.45
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> HE CAN HEAL YOU.
00:22:36.45\00:22:41.49
THIS THE IS -- I
WANT TO READ A FEW MORE.
00:22:41.49\00:22:45.96
THIS IS FROM WILLARD, I KNOW YOU
ARE WOMEN'S MINISTRIES BUT DOES
00:22:45.96\00:22:55.20
ENDITNOW.ORG HAVE
RESOURCES FOR YOUTH?
00:22:55.20\00:22:57.84
ESPECIALLY GANG VIOLENCE.
WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF YOUNG MEN
00:22:57.84\00:23:02.78
KILLING EACH
OTHER IN OUR SMALL TOWN.
00:23:02.78\00:23:05.31
ANY RESOURCES
WOULD BE A BLESSING.
00:23:05.31\00:23:08.88
>> OH, WONDERFUL.
NEEDS TO GO TO ENDITNOW.ORG
00:23:08.88\00:23:13.62
WEBSITE, GO UNDER THE RESOURCES
TAB, AND LOOK AT THE RESOURCES
00:23:13.62\00:23:17.69
WHICH WE HAVE THERE, BECAUSE
YOU KNOW -- WHAT THEY NEED TO BE
00:23:17.69\00:23:20.66
DOING IS DOING WHAT WE
CALL AN END IT NOW CAMPAIGN.
00:23:20.66\00:23:25.13
THEY NEED TO PUT THOSE TABLES
OUT THERE, HAVE THOSE SIGN-UP
00:23:25.13\00:23:28.60
SHEETS, HAVE THE SIGNS.
DO A MARCH IN THE STREET.
00:23:28.60\00:23:31.74
THEY NEED TO BE DOING
SEMINARS, WHICH WE HAVE ON ANGER
00:23:31.74\00:23:36.91
MANAGEMENT, AND BULLYING, AND
ALL OF THESE -- THEY REALLY NEED
00:23:36.91\00:23:40.18
TO BOMBARD THEIR TOWN WITH THIS.
AND SO HE IS GOING TO FIND A LOT
00:23:40.18\00:23:44.42
OF GOOD
RESOURCES THERE. >> AMEN.
00:23:44.42\00:23:46.79
WE HAVE SEVERAL
MORE CHALLENGING ONES.
00:23:46.79\00:23:49.66
HERE IS ANONYMOUS FROM MAINE.
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU CAN'T
00:23:49.66\00:23:54.30
SLEEP AT NIGHT AND YOUR THOUGHTS
ARE GOING HERE, THERE, AND
00:23:54.30\00:23:59.00
EVERYWHERE, AND IT
MAKES YOU DEPRESSED?
00:23:59.00\00:24:01.87
PRAY FOR ME. >> BEEN THERE.
00:24:01.87\00:24:03.91
[ LAUGHTER ] >> IT'S AMAZING.
00:24:03.91\00:24:06.74
BECAUSE I AM -- I SAY
A RECOVERING WORKAHOLIC.
00:24:06.74\00:24:12.85
I USED TO SLEEP WITH A PEN AND
PAD BY MY BED, BECAUSE I WAS BE
00:24:12.85\00:24:17.45
JUMPING UP DURING THE NIGHT,
BECAUSE MY THOUGHTS -- JUST EVEN
00:24:17.45\00:24:21.09
GETTING UP TO GO TO THE
BATHROOM, MY THOUGHTS WOULD
00:24:21.09\00:24:25.09
JUT-pGO RACING. AND I EVEN --
ONE OF THE WAYS THEY STOPPED IT,
00:24:25.09\00:24:29.86
WAS I BEGAN LISTENING TO
BIBLE STORIES. I'M SIRIUS,  --
00:24:29.86\00:24:38.77
SERIOUS, I WAS LISTENING TO YOUR
STORY HOUR, AND I WOULD LISTEN
00:24:38.77\00:24:44.01
THOSE BIBLE STORIES, AND YOU
KNOW WHAT IT DID, WHY I STARTED
00:24:44.01\00:24:50.35
DOING THAT -- WELL, I WAS
IMPRESSED TO DO IT, BY THE LORD,
00:24:50.35\00:24:56.26
IT TOOK THE FOCUS AWAY FROM MY
JUMBLED THOUGHTS, TO WHAT I WAS
00:24:56.26\00:25:01.13
LISTENING TO, AND
I WOULD FALL ASLEEP.
00:25:01.13\00:25:03.26
AND I DID THAT -- I HAVE TO TELL
YOU, IT WAS A FEW YEARS THAT I
00:25:03.26\00:25:07.20
DID THAT EVERY SINGLE NIGHT.
AND MY POOR HUSBAND WAS SO
00:25:07.20\00:25:13.14
THRILLED WHEN I GOT EARPHONES,
YOU KNOW, TO STICK IN MY EAR, SO
00:25:13.14\00:25:17.51
THAT HE DIDN'T
HAVE TO HEAR IT ANYMORE.
00:25:17.51\00:25:20.45
I DON'T DO IT
ANYMORE, OF COURSE.
00:25:20.45\00:25:22.62
BECAUSE YOU DO THAT TOO LONG, IT
IS REALLY GOING TO AFFECT YOUR
00:25:22.62\00:25:25.69
SLEEP AGAIN, BUT I HAD TO SLOW
MY THOUGHTS DOWN, AND I DIDN'T
00:25:25.69\00:25:29.29
KNOW HOW TO DO IT.
MY HUSBAND SAD DO DEEP
00:25:29.29\00:25:33.26
BREATHING. FOCUS ON THIS.
00:25:33.26\00:25:34.60
NONE OF THAT WORKED, BUT WHEN
I STARTED LISTENING TO THE BIBLE
00:25:34.60\00:25:38.63
STORIES, AND THEN I SWITCHED TO
LISTENING TO THE BIBLE, AND THEN
00:25:38.63\00:25:41.10
I HAD TO GO BACK TO THE BIBLE
STORIES, BECAUSE THE BIBLE WAS
00:25:41.10\00:25:44.97
SO INTERESTING IN CERTAIN
AREAS,-pIT WOKE ME UP. BUT
BECAUSE I WAS LISTENING TO
00:25:44.97\00:25:50.08
THE SAME BIBLE STORIES OVER AND
OVER, I KNEW WHAT WAS COMING, SO
00:25:50.08\00:25:53.78
IT WASN'T SO INTERESTING
THAT IT WOULD KEEP ME AWAKE.
00:25:53.78\00:25:56.95
IT WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF BORING,
BUT IT KEPT MY MIND FOCUSED OFF
00:25:56.95\00:26:01.49
OF MYSELF AND MY THOUGHTS,
SO THAT'S ONE SUGGESTION I WOULD
00:26:01.49\00:26:06.43
THINK OF. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:26:06.43\00:26:07.20
>> MUSIC IS GOING
TO WORK, YOU KNOW?
00:26:07.20\00:26:09.83
>> I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT.
I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WITH
00:26:09.83\00:26:12.93
RACING THOUGHTS, AND IF I GET TO
GO TO THE BATHROOM, THAT'S IT.
00:26:12.93\00:26:16.74
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I DO, I
SPELL -- I COUNT BACKWARDS FROM
00:26:16.74\00:26:24.18
7,777, AND I SPELL
IT. LET ME EXPLAIN.
00:26:24.18\00:26:27.62
WITH EACH BREATH. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:26:27.62\00:26:30.05
>> SO I WOULD GO, S, E, V,
E,N -- SO WITH EACH BREATH, AND
00:26:30.05\00:26:39.13
IT IS SO REPETITIOUS AND BORING
THAT I CAN NEVER GET VERY FAR.
00:26:39.13\00:26:44.47
>> OKAY. >> OKAY.
00:26:44.47\00:26:48.14
THIS IS -- I HAVE -- THE
DEPRESSION RECOVERY WORKBOOK AND
00:26:48.14\00:26:55.98
DVD'S, BUT I CAN'T GET MOTIVATED
TO EVEN DO THAT PROGRAM, AND I
00:26:55.98\00:27:00.25
SURELY CAN'T AFFORD HIS PROGRAM,
YET THE SADNESS IS BECOMING SO
00:27:00.25\00:27:04.65
MUCH STRONGER. I WILL
BE FINE, AND THEN IT IS
00:27:04.65\00:27:07.56
LIKE A DARKNESS COMES OVER ME.
I HAVE BEEN ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS
00:27:07.56\00:27:22.34
AND THEY MAKE ME LETHARGIC.
I KNOW JESUS IS DOING SOON TO
00:27:22.34\00:27:28.78
TAKE US HOME. BUT
I NEED UNTIL THEN.
00:27:28.78\00:27:33.42
>> I AM NOT A DOCTOR, BUT I HAVE
TRIED DIFFERENT -- THROUGH THE
00:27:33.42\00:27:37.22
YEARS, I HAVE HAD TO SWITCH FROM
ONE TO ANOTHER AS THE YEARS GO
00:27:37.22\00:27:42.02
BY, NUMBER 1, BECAUSE THEY ARE
NOT AS EFFECTIVE AS THEY ARE IF
00:27:42.02\00:27:45.83
YOU STAY ON THE SAME ONE OVER
AND OVER, PLUS AS TIME HAS GONE
00:27:45.83\00:27:51.60
BY, THEY HAVE
IMPROVED MANY OF THESE DRUGS.
00:27:51.60\00:27:53.97
BUT I WOULD SAY TO HER, DON'T
STOP TRYING UNTIL YOU FINE ONE
00:27:53.97\00:27:57.61
THAT WORKS, BECAUSE THERE MAY
BE ONE OUT HERE THAT IS GOING TO
00:27:57.61\00:28:02.14
WORK FOR HER, WITHOUT GIVING
HER THE FEELING OF LETHARGY, AND
00:28:02.14\00:28:07.62
JUST -- NOT
HAVING ANY MOTIVATION.
00:28:07.62\00:28:10.12
BUT IT TAKES UP TO THREE MONTHS
FOR THOSE DRUGS TO KICK IN.
00:28:10.12\00:28:13.92
PEOPLE THINK, I'LL TAKE IT, AND
IN A WEEK'S TIME -- NO, IT TAKES
00:28:13.92\00:28:18.89
ABOUT THREE MONTHS FOR
THEM TO REALLY TAKE EFFECT.
00:28:18.89\00:28:21.16
>> OKAY. NOW THIS
ONE, AND I'M SO GLAD I
00:28:21.16\00:28:25.37
READ IT TO THE END, BECAUSE SHE
SAYS DON'T MENTION MY NAME AND
00:28:25.37\00:28:29.17
HER NAME IS AT THE TOP OF THIS.
SO THIS IS A MOTHER WHO IS VERY
00:28:29.17\00:28:34.41
CONCERNED FOR HER DAUGHTER.
SHE SAID MY DAUGHTER IS IN HER
00:28:34.41\00:28:38.78
50S. SHE HAS HAD SOME DARK
00:28:38.78\00:28:40.62
EXPERIENCES IN HER YOUNG YEARS,
EVEN INVOLVING THE OCCULT, AND I
00:28:40.62\00:28:44.49
THINK RAPE. OF
COURSE IT IS A CLOUD OVER
00:28:44.49\00:28:48.02
HERE. SHE HAS
TRIED THERAPIES AND ALL
00:28:48.02\00:28:50.19
OF THAT. SHE REJECTS THE LORD.
00:28:50.19\00:28:52.69
REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO
TALK ABOUT GOD, AND SHE SAID
00:28:52.69\00:28:56.63
SHE -- SOME THINGS
HAPPENED IN THE CHURCH.
00:28:56.63\00:29:00.84
SHE IS AGAINST ADVENTISTS.
I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING I CAN DO
00:29:00.84\00:29:05.97
FORMER. SHE HOLDS
DOWN A GOOD NURSING
00:29:05.97\00:29:08.81
JOB, ET CETERA, BUT
WHAT CAN I DO BESIDES PRAY?
00:29:08.81\00:29:13.38
IS THERE A BOOK THAT YOU
CAN THINK OF, OR IS THERE . . .
00:29:13.38\00:29:20.29
>> THERE IS NOT ONE BOOK THAT
I CAN THINK OF PARTICULARLY THAT
00:29:20.29\00:29:23.19
IS GOING TO HELP HER TO HELP HER
DAUGHTER, AND I'M SAYING THAT,
00:29:23.19\00:29:29.70
BECAUSE AGAIN, FROM MY OWN
EXPERIENCE, MY OWN DAUGHTER HAS
00:29:29.70\00:29:33.30
BEEN GOING THROUGH SOME VERY
DIFFICULT TIMES IN THE PAST FEW
00:29:33.30\00:29:37.21
YEARS, PHYSICAL CHALLENGES,
HEALTH CHALLENGES, AND, YOU
00:29:37.21\00:29:41.68
KNOW, I HAVE JUST PETITIONED THE
THROWN OF GRACE ALL THE TIME.
00:29:41.68\00:29:45.25
I HAVE FRIENDS WHO PRAY FOR HER
IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD
00:29:45.25\00:29:49.22
CHURCH, AND I CRY OUT TO THEM,
I'LL SEND AN EMAIL AND SAY GUYS,
00:29:49.22\00:29:54.56
I REALLY NEED YOU PRAYING.
SHE HAS A TEST TOMORROW, AND I
00:29:54.56\00:29:58.39
REALLY NEED YOU
COVERING HER IN PRAYER.
00:29:58.39\00:30:00.06
AND I'M GOING TO SAY TO THIS
MOM, SHE NEEDS TO GET NOT ONLY
00:30:00.06\00:30:05.17
HER PRAYERS, BUT I BELIEVE
GOD HEARS OUR PRAYERS, BUT MORE
00:30:05.17\00:30:09.97
PRAYER, MORE POWER. I
THINK SHE NEEDS TO HAVE
00:30:09.97\00:30:13.64
OVERPEOPLE AS WELL WHO ARE
PRAYING AND INTERCEDING ON HER
00:30:13.64\00:30:17.61
BEHALF. >> AND WE
WILL PRAY FOR THIS
00:30:17.61\00:30:19.28
DAUGHTER IN JUST A MOMENT.
AND WE HAVE SEVERAL PRAYER
00:30:19.28\00:30:22.85
REQUESTS HERE. THAT'S
AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
00:30:22.85\00:30:25.39
LET ME SEE. THIS
ONE SAYS -- WELL, LET'S
00:30:25.39\00:30:29.52
JUST TAKE A MOMENT. THERE
ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:30:29.52\00:30:33.23
SUFFERING DEPRESSION, OR HAVE
A LOVED ONE WHO IS SUFFERING
00:30:33.23\00:30:37.10
DEPRESSION, AND THEN WE ALSO
WANT TO PRAY FOR THIS ONE FROM
00:30:37.10\00:30:41.94
TRINIDAD TOBAGO, THE YOUNG LADY
THAT IS 29 YEARS OLD, IS GETTING
00:30:41.94\00:30:50.18
TEST RESULTS FROM FOR
MYELOMA. WHY DON'T YOU PRAY.
00:30:50.18\00:30:54.28
>> FATHER HOW WONDERFUL AND
BLESSED WE ARE THAT WE CAN CALL
00:30:54.28\00:30:58.42
UPON YOUR NAME ANY TIME,
AND YOU HEAR, AND YOU ANSWER.
00:30:58.42\00:31:03.69
SO NOW WE COME AT THIS MOMENT,
AND WE THINK OF THE PEOPLE, THE
00:31:03.69\00:31:07.96
MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE WRITTEN IN
AND CALLED, AND ESPECIALLY WE'RE
00:31:07.96\00:31:11.57
THINKING ABOUT THIS YOUNG LADY
WHO IS 29 YEARS OLD, AND WHO IS
00:31:11.57\00:31:16.57
DEALING WITH A
HUGE HEALTH CHALLENGE.
00:31:16.57\00:31:18.27
I THINK OF THE MOM WHOSE
DAUGHTER HAS BEEN THROUGH SO
00:31:18.27\00:31:22.11
MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, AND
DOESN'T WANT TO TURN TO YOU
00:31:22.11\00:31:25.11
BECAUSE OF EXPERIENCES SHE HAS
HAD, AND I THINK OF GLENNA, WHO
00:31:25.11\00:31:29.02
WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
FATHER THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE,
00:31:29.02\00:31:34.76
MEN, WOMEN, YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
DESPERATELY NEED TO KNOW YOU,
00:31:34.76\00:31:38.83
AND WHO NEED TO FEEL YOUR
FEELINGS, YOUR HEALING TOUCH IN
00:31:38.83\00:31:43.37
THEIR LIVES, AND SO FATHER
IN THE NAME OF JESUS RIGHT NOW,
00:31:43.37\00:31:49.64
LORD, I PRAY THAT YOUR HOLY
SPIRIT COMES CLOSE TO EACH OF
00:31:49.64\00:31:53.64
THESE PERSONS WHEREVER
THEY MAY BE IN THIS WORLD.
00:31:53.64\00:31:57.41
EVEN THOUGH WHO HAVEN'T SENT
A REQUEST, BUT WHO NEED TO FEEL
00:31:57.41\00:32:00.78
THAT TOUCH, TO FEEL THAT WARMTH,
THAT SAFENESS, THAT PEACE IN
00:32:00.78\00:32:05.05
THEIR LIVES. I'M
PRAYING THAT RIGHT NOW, AND
00:32:05.05\00:32:08.82
I'M PRAYING IT BECAUSE I KNOW
THAT YOU ARE HEARING, AND EVEN
00:32:08.82\00:32:11.93
BEFORE WE PRAYED, YOU WERE
ANSWERING, AND I THANK YOU,
00:32:11.93\00:32:15.30
LORD, FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING,
AND WHAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO
00:32:15.30\00:32:19.17
DO, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE
LORD WHO SEES AND PROVIDES.
00:32:19.17\00:32:22.04
>> AMEN. >> AND I
THANK YOU IN JESUS
00:32:22.04\00:32:24.91
NAME. >> AND
FATHER, WE JUST LINGER
00:32:24.91\00:32:28.11
ONE MOMENT LONGER, WE JUST CLAIM
THE PROMISE OF PSALMS 3:3, THAT
00:32:28.11\00:32:35.75
YOU ARE THE LIFTER OF OUR HEARD,
AND I JUST ASK IN THE NAME OF
00:32:35.75\00:32:40.26
JESUS THAT YOU WILL RIGHT
NOW, JUST CUP YOUR HAND UNDER
00:32:40.26\00:32:44.99
THE -- THOSE WHO ARE DOWNCAST,
CUP YOUR HAND UNDER THEIR CHIN,
00:32:44.99\00:32:50.37
AND LIFT THEIR FACE, AND
GET THEIR ATTENTION ON YOU, AND
00:32:50.37\00:32:54.30
FATHER, I THANK YOU THAT YOU
PROMISE IN ISAIAH 26:3, THAT AS
00:32:54.30\00:33:00.31
WE FOCUS ON YOU, TRUSTING IN
YOU, KEEPING OUR EYES FOCUSED ON
00:33:00.31\00:33:05.31
YOU, THAT YOU PROMISE
TO GIVE US PERFECT PEACE.
00:33:05.31\00:33:09.15
AND FATHER, THERE ARE SO MANY
PEOPLE WHO NEED YOUR PEACE, AND
00:33:09.15\00:33:14.06
THEY NEED THE ASSURANCE OF
KNOWING YOU ARE THERE WITH THEM.
00:33:14.06\00:33:18.86
>> YES. >> SO I
JUST ASK FOR THAT NOW,
00:33:18.86\00:33:21.40
AND I THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
FOR THE ANSWER TO THE PRAYER IN
00:33:21.40\00:33:25.03
FAITH. >> AMEN.
00:33:25.03\00:33:26.27
>> AMEN. ALL RIGHT.
00:33:26.27\00:33:27.80
THIS IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION,
AND IT CAME FROM A MISSIONARY
00:33:27.80\00:33:35.41
WHO SAYS WHAT HAS SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTIST MINISTRIES DONE ABOUT
00:33:35.41\00:33:41.12
THE MUTILATION OF
WOMEN IN ETHIOPIA?
00:33:41.12\00:33:45.32
THIS IS FROM ARIZONA, AND THE
CALLER WAS A FORMER MISSIONARY
00:33:45.32\00:33:49.49
IN ETHIOPIA. >> I'M
NOT SURE WHAT SHE MEANS
00:33:49.49\00:33:52.96
BY MUTILATION, BUT THE
WORD MUTILATION IS NORMALLY
00:33:52.96\00:33:58.07
ASSOCIATED WITH FEMALE GENITAL
MUTILATION, AND THIS IS A
00:33:58.07\00:34:02.80
PROBLEM NOT ONLY IN
ETHIOPIA, BUT MANY OF THE AFRICA
00:34:02.80\00:34:07.01
COUNTRIES. IT'S ALSO
IN PARTS OF THE MIDDLE
00:34:07.01\00:34:10.21
EAST. IT'S A
PROBLEM IN PARTS OF ASIA,
00:34:10.21\00:34:14.22
SO YES, FEMALE GENITAL
MUTILATION IS ONE OF THE ISSUES
00:34:14.22\00:34:18.82
THAT WE FOCUS ON. AND
IN AFRICA, I KNOW FOR SURE
00:34:18.82\00:34:22.22
IT IS ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS
THAT OUR WOMEN'S MINISTRIES
00:34:22.22\00:34:25.89
FOCUS ON TO BRING AN AWARENESS
TO IT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S
00:34:25.89\00:34:30.90
AMAZING WHAT GOD DOES, BECAUSE
I KNOW OF ONE WOMAN -- WHO WOMEN
00:34:30.90\00:34:34.84
THAT I CAN THINK OF WHO HAS
LEFT THEIR HOME COUNTRY IN THE
00:34:34.84\00:34:40.48
NORTHERN HEMISPHERE AND
GONE TO LIVE IN SOME F O THESE
00:34:40.48\00:34:46.11
COUNTRIES, LIVE IN THEVILLAGES
WHERE THESE YOUNG GIRLS ARE
00:34:46.11\00:34:51.25
DEALING WITH THIS MUTILATION,
AND TRAIN AND EDUCATION --
00:34:51.25\00:34:53.69
>> WHAT IS THE
PURPOSE? IS THIS LIKE --
00:34:53.69\00:34:59.46
>> ANOTHER WORD FOR IT IS
FEMALE CIRCUMCISION, WHEN A GIRL
00:34:59.46\00:35:04.47
REACHES A CERTAIN AGE, IT
DEPENDS ON WHAT CULTURE, BUT
00:35:04.47\00:35:08.34
IT'S NORMALLY DONE WHEN
SHE IS VERY YOUNG, IT COULD BE
00:35:08.34\00:35:16.41
SIX -- SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS
OF AGE, AND THE CLITORIS IS CUT
00:35:16.41\00:35:24.95
OFF, AND THE LABIA IS STITCHED
TOGETHER SO THERE CAN BE NO
00:35:24.95\00:35:30.79
SEXUAL INTERCOURSE BEFORE
SHE IS READY TO BE MARRIED.
00:35:30.79\00:35:38.07
THESE THINGS ARE NOT DONE IN
HOSPITALS, THEY ARE DONE WITH
00:35:38.07\00:35:41.87
KNIVES AND THINGS
THAT ARE NOT STERILIZED.
00:35:41.87\00:35:45.41
MANY OF THESE YOUNG
GIRLS GET SERIOUS INFECTIONS.
00:35:45.41\00:35:53.15
MANY DIE BECAUSE OF THESE
INFECTIONS, AND JUST BEFORE SHE
00:35:53.15\00:35:56.45
IS MARRIED, THAT OPENING IS
CUT OPEN, SO THAT SHE CAN HAVE
00:35:56.45\00:36:02.62
INTERCOURSE AND
ALSO HAVE CHILDREN.
00:36:02.62\00:36:04.09
THE PROBLEM IS, WHEN YOU CLOSE
UP THAT AREA, YOU CAN GET ALL
00:36:04.09\00:36:08.26
KINDS OF INFECTIONS WHETHER IT'S
VAGINA INFECTIONS, OR URINARY
00:36:08.26\00:36:22.51
TRACT INFECTIONS -- >>
AND THIS IS A WIDESPREAD
00:36:22.51\00:36:27.05
PRACTICE? >> THIS IS WIDESPREAD.
00:36:27.05\00:36:28.55
AND IT'S NOT JUST IN SOUTHERN
HEMISPHERE COUNTRIES, BECAUSE OF
00:36:28.55\00:36:34.62
THE MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE FROM ONE
PART OF THE WORLD TO THE NET.
00:36:34.62\00:36:38.46
IT'S HERE IN THEUNITED STATES
AND CANADA AND EUROPE, WHEN YOU
00:36:38.46\00:36:41.53
HAVE THESE CULTURES MOVING AND
LIVING AMONG -- IN COMMUNITIES
00:36:41.53\00:36:46.23
WHERE THEY LIVE, THEY MAINTAIN
THEIR CULTURAL PRACTICES, AND SO
00:36:46.23\00:36:50.57
IT'S A PROBLEM THAT COULD
BE HAPPENING RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO
00:36:50.57\00:36:53.74
YOU, AND YOU ARE NOT AWARE,
AND THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO EDUCATE
00:36:53.74\00:36:58.38
WOMEN WHO LIVE IN WESTERN
COUNTRIES WHERE THERE IS THAT
00:36:58.38\00:37:02.62
MOVEMENT, WHERE THERE'S
REFUGEES, OR JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:37:02.62\00:37:06.82
IMMIGRATING TO THAT COUNTRY,
THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
00:37:06.82\00:37:10.09
GOES ON IN -- IN DIFFERENT
CULTURES, SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE
00:37:10.09\00:37:16.43
OBSERVANT, MORE AWARE,
MORE -- MORE KIND, MORE WILLING
00:37:16.43\00:37:21.04
TO BE OPEN TO HELP. >>
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SOMETIMES WE
00:37:21.04\00:37:25.97
JUST HAVE TO STOP AND REALIZE,
WE LIVE IN A BUBBLE, AND
00:37:25.97\00:37:30.15
IF -- IF YOU LIVE IN A
CHRISTIAN ENVIRONMENT, AND YOU
00:37:30.15\00:37:33.88
DON'T -- YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE
THINGS ARE SHOCKING TO YOU,
00:37:33.88\00:37:37.45
TRUST ME, JUST GET OUT IN
THE WORLD -- IN THE REAL WORLD
00:37:37.45\00:37:42.82
THAT -- WHERE CHRIST ISN'T
REIGNING, AND THAT PART OF THE
00:37:42.82\00:37:45.76
WORLD, AND YOU
WILL SEE AMAZING THINGS.
00:37:45.76\00:37:55.50
I WAS UNAWARE OF HOW MUCH SEX
TRAFFICKING WAS GOING ON IN THE
00:37:55.50\00:37:59.77
UNITED STATES -- >> YEAH.
00:37:59.77\00:38:02.31
>> -- WITH YOUNG CHILDREN EVEN
UNTIL I WAS TALKING WITH -- WHEN
00:38:02.31\00:38:06.05
WE WERE IN LAS VEGAS,
MINISTERING, AND TALKING WITH
00:38:06.05\00:38:09.15
SOME OF THE PASTORS THERE, AND
THEY SEE A LOT OF IT, SO THESE
00:38:09.15\00:38:13.82
THINGS ARE VERY REAL.
THEY ARE HAPPENING AROUND US.
00:38:13.82\00:38:19.19
LET'S TALK ABOUT REACH MY WORLD.
YOU HAVE MENTIONED SO MANY
00:38:19.19\00:38:22.66
WONDERFUL THINGS. I
DON'T KNOW -- OBVIOUSLY, YOU
00:38:22.66\00:38:27.44
ARE TRAVELING CONSTANTLY.
HOW MANY CHURCHES -- LET'S JUST
00:38:27.44\00:38:32.41
TAKE THE UNITED
STATES, FOR AN EXAMPLE.
00:38:32.41\00:38:37.65
IS WOMEN'S -- ARE WOMEN'S
MINISTRIES FROM THE VARIOUS
00:38:37.65\00:38:43.39
CHURCHES REALLY TAKING ADVANTAGE
OF ALL OF THESE RESOURCES?
00:38:43.39\00:38:47.59
I MEAN, I WASN'T EVEN
AWARE OF SOME OF THEM.
00:38:47.59\00:38:50.83
BUT THEN I'M NOT A GOOD
PERSON TO -- I TRAVEL SO MUCH
00:38:50.83\00:38:55.06
MINISTERING THAT I'M NOT
THAT ACTIVE IN OUR WOMEN'S
00:38:55.06\00:39:00.04
MINISTRIES. >> I CAN'T SAY THAT
00:39:00.04\00:39:02.40
EVERY -- EVERY SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTIST CHURCH HAS A
00:39:02.40\00:39:05.64
FUNCTIONING WOMEN'S MINISTRIES.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS TRUE.
00:39:05.64\00:39:09.11
ONLY BECAUSE I HEAR FROM
DIFFERENT WOMEN AS I TRAVEL WHO
00:39:09.11\00:39:12.08
SAY, BUT I
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS.
00:39:12.08\00:39:15.25
IT'S NOT IN MY CHURCH.
BUT I WOULD SAY MANY OF OUR
00:39:15.25\00:39:18.59
CHURCHES HERE DO
HAVE WOMEN'S MINISTRIES.
00:39:18.59\00:39:22.42
ACTIVE ONES, WHERE THE
WOMEN ARE REACHING OUT TO THEIR
00:39:22.42\00:39:27.23
COMMUNITIES, WHERE THEY ARE
INVOLVED IN SMALL GROUP BIBLE
00:39:27.23\00:39:31.27
STUDY, SMALL GROUP PRAYER, AND
THEY ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT
00:39:31.27\00:39:35.47
LEADERSHIP TRAINING AND -- AND
EMPOWERING THEMSELVES SO THAT
00:39:35.47\00:39:39.84
THEY CAN REACH OUT. SO,
YES, WHAT I SEE -- WHAT I
00:39:39.84\00:39:43.75
SEE HERE IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT
I SEE IN EUROPE, AUSTRALIA, SOME
00:39:43.75\00:39:49.42
OF THESE MORE DEVELOPED
COUNTRIES, BUT I ALSO HAVE TO
00:39:49.42\00:39:53.52
CONTRAST THAT WITH WHAT I
SEE IN THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE
00:39:53.52\00:39:58.63
COUNTRIES, WHERE THEY ARE LESS
DEVELOPED AND WHERE THE PASSION
00:39:58.63\00:40:01.56
FOR THESE THINGS SEEMS TO BE
HEIGHTENED BY WHAT HAPPENS IN
00:40:01.56\00:40:05.87
THEIR OWN PERSONAL LIVES.
MAYBE THEIR STRUGGLES, FINANCIAL
00:40:05.87\00:40:13.07
STRUGGLES, POVERTY AND
ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
00:40:13.07\00:40:21.15
IT HEIGHTENS THEIR AWARENESS.
IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN IT, BUT I'M
00:40:21.15\00:40:28.19
JUST TALKING ABOUT
BASED ON WHAT I SEE.
00:40:28.19\00:40:30.66
>> THAT MAKES PERFECT
SENSE TO ME, BECAUSE IT SEEMS
00:40:30.66\00:40:33.60
LIKE -- SOMETIMES THE LESS YOU
HAVE, THE MORE YOU DEPEND UPON
00:40:33.60\00:40:37.93
GOD, AND THE MORE AWARE YOU ARE
OF HOW GOD IS THERE TO ANSWER
00:40:37.93\00:40:41.44
FOR YOU, AND YOU ARE
ANXIOUS TO SHARE HIM.
00:40:41.44\00:40:43.91
>> YES. >> I HAD
A THOUGHT AND I JUST
00:40:43.91\00:40:46.84
WANTED TO SAY
THAT BEFORE I FORGET.
00:40:46.84\00:40:50.05
WHEN YOU SAID THAT -- THE
EXPERIENCE YOU WENT THROUGH WAS
00:40:50.05\00:40:54.28
THE WORST AND THE BEST
THING THAT HAPPENED TO YOU.
00:40:54.28\00:40:58.29
THAT'S HOW I FELT
ABOUT THE YEAR I HAD VERTIGO.
00:40:58.29\00:41:02.72
IT WAS ONE OF THE WORST YEARS
OF MY LIFE IN MY WAYS, BUT IT
00:41:02.72\00:41:07.60
TURNED OUT TO BE THE BEST YEAR
OF MY LIFE, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN
00:41:07.60\00:41:14.24
GOD GOT ME -- YOU KNOW,
IT'S JUST LIKE, HE TURNED ON THE
00:41:14.24\00:41:17.94
LIGHT FOR ME. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:41:17.94\00:41:19.67
>> AND THAT'S WHEN I REALLY
-- >> AND HE WILL DO THAT IF WE
00:41:19.67\00:41:25.45
ALLOW HIM TO. YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE LOOK AT US, AND
00:41:25.45\00:41:28.22
THEY -- THEY SEE US, AND WE'RE
ON TELEVISION OR PREACH IN A
00:41:28.22\00:41:34.06
CHURCH, AND THEY SAY, YOU HAVE
GOT LIFE GOOD, AND EVEN THOUGH I
00:41:34.06\00:41:37.79
WOULD SHARE MY OWN TESTAMENT.
WELL, YEAH, BUT THAT WAS THEN,
00:41:37.79\00:41:42.00
BUT THIS IS NOW. BUT
YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE
00:41:42.00\00:41:46.74
VERTIGO WAS NOT MANY YEARS AGO.
THAT WAS WITHIN THE PAST COUPLE
00:41:46.74\00:41:51.01
OF YEARS. FOR ME,
JUST BECAUSE I SERVE
00:41:51.01\00:41:55.38
GOD, AND I BELIEVE IN HIM, AND
I'M GIVING MY LIFE TO WHAT HE
00:41:55.38\00:41:59.75
WANTS, DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M
PROTECTED ON EVERY CORNER, AND
00:41:59.75\00:42:03.69
THAT NOTHING BAD
HAPPENS IN MY LIFE.
00:42:03.69\00:42:12.46
>> REALLY, THE WHOLE TIME YOU
HAVE BEEN WOMEN'S MINISTRIES --
00:42:12.46\00:42:14.56
>> SINCE 2007. >> AND
THEN YOU HAVE HAD FIVE
00:42:14.56\00:42:17.90
KNEE SURGERIES --
>> I HAVE HAD FIVE KNEE
00:42:17.90\00:42:23.30
REPLACEMENTS. THREE
IN ONE KNEE, AND TWO IN
00:42:23.30\00:42:25.51
THE OTHER. AND
EVERY ONE I SAID, OKAY,
00:42:25.51\00:42:28.24
LORD, I DON'T
WANT TO DO THIS AGAIN.
00:42:28.24\00:42:30.75
I CAN'T GO THROUGH THIS PAIN
AGAIN, AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH
00:42:30.75\00:42:33.48
IT AGAIN. AND
EACH TIME I THOUGHT I
00:42:33.48\00:42:35.75
COULDN'T, I COULD. AND
EACH TIME I FOUND GREATER
00:42:35.75\00:42:39.89
STRENGTH AND GREATER DEPTH IN MY
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, BECAUSE I
00:42:39.89\00:42:44.66
JUST DECIDED NOT TO FIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS IT, OKAY,
00:42:44.66\00:42:50.03
LORD, WHAT ARE YOU
DOING THROUGH THIS?
00:42:50.03\00:42:52.60
AND THAT'S WHY I SAY -- YOU
KNOW, WE FEEL AS THOUGH, OKAY,
00:42:52.60\00:42:56.17
YOU ARE COVERED. BUT
GOD IS STILL WORKING IN MY
00:42:56.17\00:42:59.14
LIFE. THERE ARE
STILL THINGS HE WANTS
00:42:59.14\00:43:01.14
TO TEACH ME. AND
THERE IS STILL A STORY HE
00:43:01.14\00:43:04.65
WANTS ME TO HAVE
TO REACH SOMEONE ELSE.
00:43:04.65\00:43:07.62
BECAUSE WHEN I TALK ABOT
REACHING MY WORLD, THE PEOPLE IN
00:43:07.62\00:43:11.12
THE WORLD AROUND ME WHO DON'T
KNOW GOD DO NOT WANT A PERFECT
00:43:11.12\00:43:16.06
CHRISTIAN COMING TO KNOCK
ON THEIR DOOR, OR COMING TO BE
00:43:16.06\00:43:19.19
THEIR FRIEND. >>
THEY DON'T WANT A SERMON.
00:43:19.19\00:43:21.46
>> NO, THEY WANT SOMEONE WHO CAN
TELL THEM HOW THIS GOD HAS BEEN
00:43:21.46\00:43:25.77
REAL IN THEIR LIFE. HOW
THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH PAIN.
00:43:25.77\00:43:30.01
HOW THEY HAVE
GONE THROUGH HARDSHIP.
00:43:30.01\00:43:32.17
HOW THEY HAVE GONE TO HELL AND
COME BACK, AND HOW MUCH GOD HAS
00:43:32.17\00:43:35.34
DONE FOR THEM, AND SO I LOOK
BACK AT MY SON'S DEATH, I LOOK
00:43:35.34\00:43:38.88
AT MY SURGERIES, I LOOK AT
MY DEPRESSION AND OTHER HEALTH
00:43:38.88\00:43:43.95
CHALLENGES, AND I SAY PRAISE
GOD, BECAUSE HE KEEPS GIVING ME
00:43:43.95\00:43:47.22
A NEW SONG TO SING. IN
THE -- PSALMS, DAVID KEEPS
00:43:47.22\00:43:56.03
SAYING SINGLE A NEW SONG.
MY PERSONAL INTERPRETATION IS
00:43:56.03\00:44:01.07
THAT EVERY TRIAL GIVES ME A NEW
SONG, A NEW TESTIMONY TO SHARE
00:44:01.07\00:44:05.64
WITH SOMEONE. >> I LOVE THAT.
00:44:05.64\00:44:07.48
>> AND IT KEEPS US COMPASSIONATE
AND REAL, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WE
00:44:07.48\00:44:12.58
MEET -- OH, MY WORD, WHAT THEY
ARE GOING THROUGH IS -- IS -- IS
00:44:12.58\00:44:17.42
SO HARD, AND -- AND THE ONLY WAY
TO CONNECT WITH THEM, IS AT THE
00:44:17.42\00:44:22.36
HEART LEVEL, WHERE I KNOW
WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
00:44:22.36\00:44:25.06
I UNDERSTAND YOUR LONELINESS.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR PAIN.
00:44:25.06\00:44:29.23
I UNDERSTAND WHAT IT FEELS LIKE
TO FEEL AS THOUGH THE WORLD IS
00:44:29.23\00:44:33.23
AGAINST YOU, AS THOUGH GOD IS
AGAINST YOU, THAT HE IS ALLOWING
00:44:33.23\00:44:38.07
YOU TO SUFFER SO MUCH, BUT HE
GAVE ME A NEW SONG, AND HE GAVE
00:44:38.07\00:44:44.58
ME JOY, AND -- JOY
IS MY FAVORITE WORD.
00:44:44.58\00:44:49.58
IF YOU ASK ANY OF MY BEAUTIFUL
SISTER AROUND THE WORLD CHURCH,
00:44:49.58\00:44:54.49
THEY WILL SAY, JOY
IS YOUR FAVORITE WORD.
00:44:54.49\00:44:59.79
>> AND PEOPLE SOMETIMES
MISUNDERSTOOD THE DIFFERENCE
00:44:59.79\00:45:02.23
BETWEEN HAPPINESS
AND JOY. >> OH, YEAH.
00:45:02.23\00:45:05.53
HUGE DIFFERENCE. >>
HAPPINESS DEPENDS ON YOUR
00:45:05.53\00:45:10.61
CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> IT'S AN EMOTION.
00:45:10.61\00:45:13.14
>> BUT JOY IS DEEP
INSIDE. >> IT'S OUR STRENGTH.
00:45:13.14\00:45:16.04
>> AND THAT COMES FROM HAVING
THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND
00:45:16.04\00:45:19.38
KNOWING HOW MUCH
HE LOVES YOU. >> YES.
00:45:19.38\00:45:21.95
>> I WANT TO READ YOU SOMETHING.
ISAIAH 43:18, GOD SAYS, DO NOT
00:45:21.95\00:45:32.73
REMEMBER THE FORMER THINGS,
NOR CONSIDER THE THINGS OF OLD,
00:45:32.73\00:45:38.10
BEHOLD, I WILL DO A NEW THING,
NOW IT STALL SPRING FORTH, SHALL
00:45:38.10\00:45:42.77
YOU NOT KNOW IT, I WILL EVEN
MAKE A ROAD IN THE WILDERNESS
00:45:42.77\00:45:47.08
AND RIVERS IN THE DESERT.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE GOES ON AND
00:45:47.08\00:45:52.35
THEN SAYS THAT HE WILL POUR OUT
WATERS IN THE WILDERNESS, AND
00:45:52.35\00:45:58.75
THAT'S -- REMINDS ME.
ISAIAH 44:3 SAYS WHAT HE IS
00:45:58.75\00:46:03.93
POURING OUT. HE SAYS
I'LL POUR WATER OUT ON
00:46:03.93\00:46:07.23
HIM WHO IS THIRSTY,
FLOODS ON THE DRY GROUND.
00:46:07.23\00:46:11.13
I WILL POUR MY
SPIRIT OUT. >> YES.
00:46:11.13\00:46:13.27
YES. >> BUT WHEN WE TALK
00:46:13.27\00:46:17.41
ABOUT -- DON'T THINK ABOUT THE
PAST -- DON'T DWELL ON THE PAST,
00:46:17.41\00:46:23.31
SOMETIMES I THINK WE JUST
THINK ABOUT DON'T DWELL ON THE
00:46:23.31\00:46:28.18
NEGATIVE THINGS OF THE PAST,
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU CAN
00:46:28.18\00:46:34.46
TELL WHEN A CHRISTIAN'S LIFE
WHEN THEIR FLAME IS FLICKERING,
00:46:34.46\00:46:38.46
IF THEY ARE ALWAYS TELLING
THE SAME GOOD STORY FROM BEFORE.
00:46:38.46\00:46:45.33
YOU JUST SAID SING A
NEW SONG. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:46:45.33\00:46:47.87
>> I THINK SOMETIMES IF YOU
ARE ALWAYS TELLING THE SAME PEAK
00:46:47.87\00:46:52.01
STORY, YOU ARE DWELLING ON
THE PAST AND REALIZING, HEY, GOD
00:46:52.01\00:46:56.51
WANTS TO TAKE ME TO A NEW PLACE,
WE GOT TO QUIT TALKING ABOUT
00:46:56.51\00:47:01.92
THAT AND GET ON
WITH THE PROGRAM.
00:47:01.92\00:47:03.32
WE HAVE SEVERAL HERE, BUT I JUST
WANT TO READ THIS, BECAUSE IT'S
00:47:03.32\00:47:07.39
PRECIOUS. ONE
LADY SAYS WHEN I CAN'T
00:47:07.39\00:47:12.43
SLEEP, I REPEAT [ INAUDIBLE
] BECAUSE HE TRUSTS IN YOU.
00:47:12.43\00:47:15.23
AND THAT'S ISAIAH 26:3.
THIS MAN SAYS I'M 81, AND I
00:47:15.23\00:47:26.64
DON'T SLEEP MUCH EITHER.
WHAT HELPS ME IS TO LAY THERE,
00:47:26.64\00:47:30.65
RELAX, AND THINK OF ALL OF THE
WAYS THAT GOD SHOWS ME HE LOVES
00:47:30.65\00:47:35.58
ME. SOMETIMES
I'LL SING IN MY MINE,
00:47:35.58\00:47:38.59
PUT ON MID DVD'S AND LISTEN TO
3ABN, BUT THINKING OF THE WAYS
00:47:38.59\00:47:44.63
THAT GOD LOVES ME IS
THE BEST. >> YES, I AGREE.
00:47:44.63\00:47:47.86
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS
WHEN I TRAVEL AND I'M SHARING
00:47:47.86\00:47:51.57
WITH MY SISTERS, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT I TELL THEM, IS
00:47:51.57\00:47:55.50
NIGHTTIME BEFORE YOU GO TO
SLEEP, KEEP A LITTLE JOURNAL BY
00:47:55.50\00:47:59.71
YOUR BED. JUST A
LITTLE BOOK, AND YOU TAKE
00:47:59.71\00:48:03.35
TIME TO WRITE FIVE THINGS -- IT
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FIVE -- FIVE
00:48:03.35\00:48:08.65
THINGS YOU WANT TO
THANK GOD FOR YOUR DAY.
00:48:08.65\00:48:12.25
BECAUSE WE FORGET, BUT THINK
ABOUT YOUR DAY, AND SAY, LORD, I
00:48:12.25\00:48:16.06
THANK YOU THAT I
GOT THAT PARKING SPOT.
00:48:16.06\00:48:20.93
I THANK YOU THAT MY
VISIT TO THE DOCTOR WENT WILL.
00:48:20.93\00:48:25.97
YOU KNOW, WRITE
THOSE THINGS DOWN.
00:48:25.97\00:48:27.87
GO TO BED WITH A THANKFUL
HEART, A HEART THAT'S GIVING GOD
00:48:27.87\00:48:33.48
PRAISE. WHEN THE
NEXT TRIAL COMES, YOU
00:48:33.48\00:48:37.61
PICK UP THAT THANK YOU
BOOK AND GO THROUGH IT.
00:48:37.61\00:48:40.52
AND YOU WILL BE AMAZED AT HOW
MUCH STRENGTH AND COURAGE YOU'LL
00:48:40.52\00:48:45.45
GET FROM REMEMBERING WHAT
GOD HAS BLESSED YOU WITH EVERY
00:48:45.45\00:48:49.09
SINGLE DAY. >> AND
YOU KNOW -- I CAN'T
00:48:49.09\00:48:52.59
REMEMBER WHEN, BUT I WOULD SAY
-90% OF MY PRAYER, EVERY DAY,
90% OF MY PRAYER IS PRAISE AND
00:48:52.59\00:48:59.90
THANKSGIVING. >> YES.
00:48:59.90\00:49:01.50
>> AND I NEVER EVER TIRE OF
THANKING JESUS FOR COMING DOWN
00:49:01.50\00:49:09.28
AND BECOMING A MAN. >> OH, YES.
00:49:09.28\00:49:11.71
>> I ALWAYS START OFF WITH THAT,
BECAUSE TO ME THAT'S THE MOST
00:49:11.71\00:49:16.05
AMAZING SACRIFICE HE MADE WAS
THAT GOD BECAME A MAN, TOOK ON
00:49:16.05\00:49:21.56
THIS FLESH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING
HE TOOK BACK TO HEAVEN WITH HIM.
00:49:21.56\00:49:25.46
>> AND WE NEED
TO GIVE GOD THANKS.
00:49:25.46\00:49:27.96
>> AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT DOES,
NO MATTER HOW BAD THINGS MIGHT
00:49:27.96\00:49:31.53
BE GOING IN YOUR LIFE -- AND AS
YOU SAID, JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE
00:49:31.53\00:49:35.27
IN MINISTRY, DOESN'T MEAN THINGS
ARE ALWAYS SMOOTH, BUT NO MATTER
00:49:35.27\00:49:40.34
WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE,
WHEN YOU GO TO BED, OR GET UP,
00:49:40.34\00:49:46.25
OR WHENEVER YOU ARE PRAYING, IF
YOUR FOCUS IS ON PRAISING GOD,
00:49:46.25\00:49:52.12
ON MAGNIFYING THE LORD ON WHAT
HE HAS DONE IN YOUR LIFE, IT'S
00:49:52.12\00:49:57.49
SOMETHING NO MATTER HOW
BAD IT IS, IT JUST LIFTS YOU.
00:49:57.49\00:50:00.56
>> IT DOES. >> I
JUST RECENTLY HAD A KNEE
00:50:00.56\00:50:03.70
INJURY THAT LASTED A NUMBER
OF WEEKS, AND IT WAS AWFUL.
00:50:03.70\00:50:08.50
I WOUD HARDLY BARE WEIGHT.
BUT I JUST KEPT SAYING THANK YOU
00:50:08.50\00:50:15.98
LORD -- >> THAT'S
THE SAME THING I SAY,
00:50:15.98\00:50:19.05
THANK YOU LORD, THAT I CAN
WALK. I'M NOT IN A WHEELCHAIR.
00:50:19.05\00:50:24.32
I'M NOT ON CRUTCHES,
I STILL HAVE BOTH LEGS.
00:50:24.32\00:50:27.29
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I STARTED
DOING IN MY 40S, AND THIS IS
00:50:27.29\00:50:32.59
GOING TO MAKE YOU SMILE.
BUT EVERY YEAR WHEN I HAVE A
00:50:32.59\00:50:38.43
BIRTHDAY, BUY
MYSELF A BIRTHDAY CARD.
00:50:38.43\00:50:40.67
AND LET'S SAY I WAS 45, I'M
GOING TO WRITE 45 THINGS THAT
00:50:40.67\00:50:48.18
I'M THANKFUL FOR. AND
NOW I NEED ONE THIS BIG,
00:50:48.18\00:50:52.21
BECAUSE I HAVE A LOT MORE
BECAUSE OF MY AGE, BUT I DON'T
00:50:52.21\00:50:56.25
WANT A BIRTHDAY TO COME AND GO
WITHOUT MAKING THAT MILESTONE OF
00:50:56.25\00:51:01.76
THANKS GIVING TO GOD >>
I ALWAYS THOUGHT IF I HAD
00:51:01.76\00:51:04.56
CHILDREN -- AND THE BIGGEST
DISAPPOINTMENT OF MY LIFE
00:51:04.56\00:51:08.66
PERSONALLY WAS THAT WE WEREN'T
ABLE TO HAVE CHILDREN, AND IT
00:51:08.66\00:51:11.70
WAS -- IT WAS CRUSHING.
I DON'T TALK ABOUT IT VERY
00:51:11.70\00:51:15.80
OFTEN. GOD HAS GIVEN US A LOT OF
00:51:15.80\00:51:17.91
SPIRITUAL CHILDREN,
BUT IT WAS CRUSHING TO ME.
00:51:17.91\00:51:20.41
I WANTED SIX. I LOVE CHILDREN.
00:51:20.41\00:51:24.01
BUT I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT ONE
THING THAT I WOULD DO IF I WERE
00:51:24.01\00:51:27.35
A PARENT IS EVERY YEAR ON THEIR
BIRTHDAY, I WOULD WRITE THEM A
00:51:27.35\00:51:32.19
LETTER TO TELL THEM ALL OF
THE THINGS THAT I THANK GOD FOR
00:51:32.19\00:51:36.49
HAVING THEM IN MY LIFE, AND ALL
OF THEIR LITTLE SPECIAL THINGS,
00:51:36.49\00:51:41.53
AND KEEP THAT, AND WHEN THEY ARE
18, GIVE THEM A BOOK OF ALL F O
00:51:41.53\00:51:46.33
THOSE LETTERS OF ALL OF THE
THINGS CUTE THAT THEY DID THE
00:51:46.33\00:51:49.70
FIRST YEAR,
SECOND YEAR, WHATEVER.
00:51:49.70\00:51:52.37
AND HOW THANKFUL YOU ARE TO GOD.
I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT FOR
00:51:52.37\00:51:57.41
A WHILE, SO MAYBE
SOMEBODY WILL LIKE THAT.
00:51:57.41\00:52:01.58
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED
00:52:01.58\00:52:05.99
PERSONALLY BY
WOMEN'S MINISTRIES DIRECTOR?
00:52:05.99\00:52:07.82
HOW HAS IT CHANGED YOUR LIFE?
>> IT HAS TAUGHT ME TO SUBMIT
00:52:07.82\00:52:14.60
COMPLETELY TO GOD'S WILL. I
WANT TO BE IN GOD'S WILL FOR
00:52:14.60\00:52:18.87
MY LIFE. I WANT HIM
TO BE WHERE HE WANTS
00:52:18.87\00:52:21.37
ME TO BE. >> AMEN.
00:52:21.37\00:52:23.61
>> AND WHERE I AM NOW IN
THIS MINISTRY, I KNOW I'M AT THE
00:52:23.61\00:52:28.84
PLACE WHERE GOD WANTS ME TO BE.
RIGHT NOW, AT THIS MOMENT, I CAN
00:52:28.84\00:52:33.05
SAY I KNOW I'M IN
GOD'S WILL FOR MY LIFE.
00:52:33.05\00:52:36.82
I'M WHERE HE WANTS ME TO
SERVE, SO THAT WHOLE CONCEPT OF
00:52:36.82\00:52:41.59
SURRENDERING, COMPLETELY,
AND SAYING IT'S NOT WHAT I WANT,
00:52:41.59\00:52:45.09
IT'S WHAT YOU WANT, LORD,
AND EACH DAY SAYING THAT TO HIM.
00:52:45.09\00:52:49.40
EVERY DAY I GET UP AND I
SAY THESE FEW WORDS TO MYSELF.
00:52:49.40\00:52:53.23
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHEN IT
STARTED, BUT I SIMPLY SAY, LOOK,
00:52:53.23\00:52:57.74
THIS DAY IS YOURS LORD.
USE IN ME ANY WAY YOU WANT TO.
00:52:57.74\00:53:03.18
EVERY DAY I SAY THAT TO MYSELF.
>> AND SURRENDER IS SIMPLY
00:53:03.18\00:53:09.25
JUST -- FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE
TROUBLE WITH THIS WORD, IT'S
00:53:09.25\00:53:13.86
JUST GIVING GOD YOU ARE YIELDING
TO HIM -- TO HIS LEADING, YOU
00:53:13.86\00:53:19.69
ARE GIVING HIM
PERMISSION TO GUIDE YOU IN LIFE.
00:53:19.69\00:53:22.53
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
BECAUSE HE KNOWS.
00:53:22.53\00:53:25.77
[ LAUGHTER ] >> WHAT A BLESSING
00:53:25.77\00:53:29.50
TO -- SOMETIMES I FEEL
COMPLETELY SURRENDERED, AND THEN
00:53:29.50\00:53:34.31
SUDDENLY I'LL -- I GO INTO
OVERDRIVE, AND A COUPLE OF HOURS
00:53:34.31\00:53:39.11
LATER, I'M LIKE, LORD,
AM I REALLY SURRENDERED.
00:53:39.11\00:53:42.98
>> IT'S MOMENT BY MOMENT.
THERE ARE TIES WHEN I DO WHAT I
00:53:42.98\00:53:47.19
WANT TO DO, BUT A LITTLE BELL
GOES OFF IN MY HEAD, AND SAYS
00:53:47.19\00:53:51.39
REMEMBER WHEN.
AND I'M LIKE, OKAY.
00:53:51.39\00:53:54.23
LORD, SORRY. LET
ME STAY IN THIS PATH.
00:53:54.23\00:53:56.80
>> WHAT I LOVE ABOUT YOU
IS YOU ARE SO TRANSPARENT.
00:53:56.80\00:54:02.10
AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOMETIMES IN
MY LIFE THAT I WAS SO UPSET WITH
00:54:02.10\00:54:07.14
GOD THAT I SHOOK MY FIST IN HIS
FACE, AND WALKED AWAY, AND HE
00:54:07.14\00:54:13.65
JUST CHASED ME
DOWN WITH HIS LOVE.
00:54:13.65\00:54:16.22
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE OUT
THERE AND WATCHING, DON'T THINK
00:54:16.22\00:54:19.62
THAT YOU HAVE GONE SO
FAR THAT GOD CAN'T REACH YOU.
00:54:19.62\00:54:23.39
HE IS SEARCHING FOR YOU.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH FOR
00:54:23.39\00:54:28.00
HIM. HE JUST
SAYS I'LL COME TO YOU.
00:54:28.00\00:54:31.27
AND HE'S -- ALL THE TIME WHEN HE
IS SAYING THAT, HE'S DRAWING YOU
00:54:31.27\00:54:35.07
WITH HIS LOVE.
IT'S ALL A MATTER OF
00:54:35.07\00:54:38.14
UNDERSTANDING -- >> YEAH.
00:54:38.14\00:54:40.38
YEAH. >> THE
LOVE OF GOD, ISN'T IT?
00:54:40.38\00:54:42.28
THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT GROWING
UP, I FELT LIKE I HAD TO SAVE
00:54:42.28\00:54:50.55
MYSELF. AND WHEN
YOU FINALLY GET THE
00:54:50.55\00:54:52.99
IDEA THAT
SALVATION IS A GIFT FROM GOD.
00:54:52.99\00:54:56.02
WE ONLY OBEY OUT OF A LOVE
-- A COVENANT RELATIONSHIP, AN
00:54:56.02\00:55:01.86
APPRECIATION FOR HIM, THAT'S
NOT WHAT IS GOING TO SAVE YOU.
00:55:01.86\00:55:04.77
QUICK FINAL
THOUGHT? GOT A MINUTE.
00:55:04.77\00:55:07.54
>> I WANT TO ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO STAY IN THE WORD.
00:55:07.54\00:55:12.61
>> AMEN. >> STAY IN THE WORD.
00:55:12.61\00:55:14.54
THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD IS
THE ONLY THING THAT IS GOING TO
00:55:14.54\00:55:18.15
CARRY YOU THROUGH, AND THE ONLY
WAY TO KNOW WHO GOD IS TO SAY IN
00:55:18.15\00:55:22.75
HIS WORD. TAKE
THAT FROM SOMEONE WHO
00:55:22.75\00:55:24.85
HAS -- LIKE YOU SAID,
RUN FROM HIM, IGNORED HIM.
00:55:24.85\00:55:28.86
I KNOW A LOT -- THERE WAS A TIME
I KNEW ALL OF THE BIBLE STORIES,
00:55:28.86\00:55:32.93
BUT I DIDN'T KNOW GOD.
AND I'M STILL LEARNING.
00:55:32.93\00:55:36.10
THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
ALL -- YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE -- I
00:55:36.10\00:55:39.53
READ IT THROUGH SO MANY
TIMES, AND EVERY TIME I READ IT
00:55:39.53\00:55:42.90
THROUGH, I LEARN MORE
AND MORE THINGS ABOUT GOD.
00:55:42.90\00:55:45.37
STAY IN THE WORD. >>
AND ONE THING THAT I WOULD
00:55:45.37\00:55:49.04
SUGGEST -- BECAUSE THERE ARE
SOME PEOPLE WHO JUST SAY THAT TO
00:55:49.04\00:55:52.35
READ THE BIBLE FOR THEM IS JUST
SO DIFFICULT -- NOW LET ME SEE
00:55:52.35\00:55:58.12
IF I CAN FIND THE BOOK --
ISN'T THAT FUNNY, WHEN YOU ARE
00:55:58.12\00:56:01.42
TALKING, YOU CAN'T
THINK. IF YOU CAN'T REALLY UNDE
00:56:01.42\00:56:08.23
UNDERSTOOD -- UNDERSTAND THE
BIBLE, JUST PICK IT UP AND START
00:56:08.23\00:56:17.97
READING. HE HAS
BLESSED US WITH EVERY
00:56:17.97\00:56:20.41
SPIRITUAL BLESSING
IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES.
00:56:20.41\00:56:23.14
STOP AND THANK
HIM. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:56:23.14\00:56:26.18
>> AFTER EVERY SCRIPTURE,
WELL, THANK YOU, LORD.
00:56:26.18\00:56:28.95
THAT IS A PROMISE. YOU
HAVE BLESSED ME WITH EVERY
00:56:28.95\00:56:32.52
SPIRITUAL BLESSING. >> AMEN.
00:56:32.52\00:56:34.69
>> THAT THOUGHT
JUST OCCURRED TO ME.
00:56:34.69\00:56:38.46
I JUST LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
>> I LOVE YOU TOO MY DARLING.
00:56:38.46\00:56:42.60
>> THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
00:56:42.60\00:56:45.20
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING
ON THE WORLD THEATER ALL FOR THE
00:56:45.20\00:56:49.70
GLORY OF GOD. AND
THOSE OF YOU AT HOME, THANK
00:56:49.70\00:56:52.11
YOU FOR JOINING US, AND I HOPE
YOU HAVE GLEANED SOMETHING FROM
00:56:52.11\00:56:57.65
TONIGHT, GLENNA, WE'LL BE
PRAYING FOR YOU AND OTHERS.
00:56:57.65\00:57:04.69
MAY THE LOVE OF THE FATHER AND
THE BLESSING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
00:57:04.69\00:57:10.56
BE WITH YOU ALWAYS. ¤
00:57:10.56\00:57:14.96