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00:01 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:06 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:18 ♪ REMOVING PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪
00:26 ♪ LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪
00:34 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
00:45 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
01:08 >> HELLO. I'M SHELLEY QUINN AND WE WELCOME
01:12 YOU ONCE AGAIN TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
01:16 AND THIS IS A LIVE PROGRAM, SO WE WANT YOU TO CALL IN YOUR
01:20 QUESTIONS, AND YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT
01:24 AND WE'LL TRY TO GET TO AS MANY OF THEM AS POSSIBLE.
01:27 AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW DO THAT IN JUST A SECOND.
01:31 I'M SO EXCITED, BECAUSE I HAVE A DEAR FRIEND HERE IN THE STUDIO
01:36 WITH ME TONIGHT, AND THIS IS A WOMAN SERVANT OF GOD.
01:41 I MEAN, THIS LADY TRAVELS 100,000 MILES PER YEAR SERVING
01:57 THE LORD. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT
02:01 HEATHER-DAWN SMALL WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES.
02:10 THANK YOU FOR COMING. >> I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE.
02:15 >> WE MET, I BELIEVE, WASN'T IT WHEN WE HAD THE GRACE SYMPOSIUM.
02:20 I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME -- >> THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE
02:24 MET. >> AND WE JUST HAD A IMMEDIATE
02:27 CONNECTION. >> A HOT CONNECTION, I'LL CALL IT.>> DID YOU AY HOT OR HARD?
02:35 >> HEART. >> HEART.
02:38 BUT IT IS A HOT ONE TOO TO THE LORD.
02:41 WE WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRAYERS AND LOVE AND
02:45 FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF 3ABN, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO WHAT
02:48 WE'RE DOING WITHOUT YOU. LET ME READ A SCRIPTURE, AND LET
02:52 ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT.
02:58 TONIGHT'S TITLE IS REACH THE WORLD.
03:01 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REACHING THE WORLD AROUND YOU.
03:03 THE THEME FOR THE GENERAL CONFERENCE IS REACH OUR WORLD --
03:09 >> REACH THE WORLD. >> REACH THE WORD.
03:11 >> THAT'S RIGHT. UH-HUH.
03:14 >> BUT IT'S ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT BEING A MISSIONARY, AND
03:18 GOING OVERSEAS, AND SUPPORTING ALL OF THESE MINISTRIES, BUT
03:22 IT'S QUITE SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE
03:25 NEXT DOOR TO YOU, OR DOWN THE BLOCK, OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
03:30 NEEDY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, AND HEATHER-DAWN SMALL AND THE
03:34 GENERAL CONFERENCE HAVE -- YOU HAVE BEEN 17 YEARS --
03:37 >> AT THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, YES.
03:41 >> AT THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, AND 15 YEARS --
03:46 >> AS WOMEN'S MINISTRIES DIRECTOR.
03:48 >> THAT IS AMAZING. YOU MAY BE THINKING WHY DO WE
03:53 NEED WOMEN'S MINISTRIES. SOMETIMES YO SAY WOMEN'S
03:55 MINISTRIES AND PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE HAVING A LITTLE TEA PARTY
03:59 WHERE THEY WEAR HATS, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, TONIGHT YOU WILL
04:04 FIND OUT WHAT IS THE GOAL OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES.
04:06 WHAT IS IT ALL ABOUT. WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
04:10 AND HOW THEY ARE TRAINING UP LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD TO
04:14 REACH PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY FOR CHRIST.
04:18 IT'S AMAZING. NOW I'M GOING TO READ A
04:22 SCRIPTURE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME MUSIC.
04:25 I KNOW THAT SOMEBODY TOLD ME WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
04:28 THERE WE GO. THE SCRIPTURE IS ISAIAH 61:1-3.
04:34 YOU CHOSE THIS SCRIPTURE FOR US TONIGHT.
04:36 AND HERE IS WHAT THE LORD SAYS. THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON
04:42 ME BECAUSE THE LORD HAS ANOINTED ME TO PREACH GOOD TIDINGS TO THE
04:46 POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO HEAL THE
04:49 BROKEN HEARTED, THE ONE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU, TO
04:53 PROCLAIM LIBERTY TO THE CAPTIVES IN THE OPENING OF THE PRISON TO
04:59 THOSE WHO ARE BOUND, TO PROCLAIM THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF THE LORD,
05:03 AND THE DAY AVENGEANCE OF OUR GOD TO COMFORT ALL WHO MOURN, TO
05:12 CONSULT THEM AND GIVE THEM BEAUTY FOR ASHES, OIL OF JOY FOR
05:18 MOURNING, THE GARMENT OF PRAISE FOR THE SPIRIT OF HEAVINESS,
05:22 THAT THEY MAY BE CALLED TREES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE PLANTING OF
05:26 THE LORD THAT HE MAY BE GLORIFIED.
05:30 AMEN? >> AMEN.
05:31 >> WELL, BEFOE WE DO OUR MUSIC, LET ME SAY ONE MORE TIME.
05:35 THIS IS A LIVE PROGRAM. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR IF YOU
05:39 HAVE A PRAYER REQUEST, YOU CAN CALL US AT 618-627-4651, OR YOU
05:49 CAN -- IF YOU ARE TECH SAVVY EMAIL US AT LIVE@3ABN.TV.
06:00 THAT'S LIVE@3ABN.TV. BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH OUR SPECIAL
06:04 GUEST TONIGHT, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS VERY PRECIOUS TO ME.
06:09 SHE IS ONE OF THE SWEETEST AND MOST GENTLE SPIRITS I HAVE EVER
06:15 MET. AND I LOVE TO LISTEN TO HER
06:40 ♪ THINKING YOU LEFT ME ♪ ♪ I FELT BETRAYED ♪
06:41 ♪ I KNOW THE PROMISES YOU HAVE MADE ♪
06:48 ♪ YOU SAID YOU LOVED ME ♪ ♪ YOU SAID BELIEVE ♪
06:53 ♪ I TRIED SO HARD TO BELIEVE ♪ ♪ HELPLESSLY WONDERING ON MY
07:13 OWN ♪ ♪ ANGRY, AND I JUST COULDN'T
07:18 SEE ♪ ♪ HOW MUCH YOU WERE SUFFERING
07:24 WITH ME ♪ ♪ HERE IT IS, TAKE THE PAIN
07:38 AWAY ♪ ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD PLEASE SHOW ME
07:42 THE WAY ♪-♪ BROKEN AND BLEEDING, I COME TO YOU ♪
07:59 ♪ YOU HAVE BEEN BROKEN AND BLEEDING TOO ♪
08:05 ♪ YOU FEEL MY PAIN ♪ ♪ MY GREF ♪
08:10 ♪ YOU CARRIED IT ALL WITH YOUR CROSS ♪
08:17 ♪ TAKE ALL MY HURT AND MY ANGER TOO ♪
08:22 ♪ HELP ME TO GIVE EVERYTHING TO YOU ♪
08:31 ♪ TEACH ME TO LOVE, CARE, AND FORGIVE ♪
08:37 ♪ GIVE ME A MEANING TO LIVE ♪ ♪ LONELY ♪
08:52 ♪ GENTLY SEE ME THROUGH ♪ ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD, I'M TRUSTING IN
09:00 YOU ♪ ♪ HEAL ME ♪
09:16 ♪ TAKE THE PAIN AWAY ♪ ♪ BRING A BRIGHT DAY ♪
09:29 ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD PLEASE SHOW ME ♪ ♪ LOVE ME WITH A LOVE THAT'S
09:38 TRUE ♪ ♪ GIVE ME PEACE IN YOU ♪
09:46 ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD ♪ ♪ I'M TRUSTING IN YOU ♪
09:58 >> THANK YOU PRECIOUS VONDA. SHE HAS SUCH A SWEET VOICE, AND
10:03 SHE IS A SWEET PERSON. IF YOU ARE JOINING US JUST A
10:06 MOMENT LATE, OUR SPECIAL GUEST IS HEATHER-DAWN SMALL WHO IS THE
10:12 DIRECTOR OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES FOR THE GENERAL CONFERENCE OF
10:17 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. HEATHER-DAWN BEFORE WE LAUNCH
10:21 INTO THE MINISTRY THAT YOU ARE DOING, COULD YOU PLEASE JUST
10:25 SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU -- I WOULD LIKE TO
10:29 HEAR -- YOUR GROWING UP YEARS, AND HOW GOD MOVED YOU TO ACCPT
10:36 THIS CALL TO DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING TODA?
10:38 >> SO HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE? [ LAUGHTER ]
10:42 >> OKAY. >> LET ME KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS I
10:44 CAN. I WAS BORN ON THE ISLAND OF
10:48 TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. I SPENT MY GROWING UP YEARS IN
10:55 LEADS, ENGLAND WHERE MY FAMILY HAD MOVED WHEN MY FATHER WAS
11:01 STUDYING. >> JUST A SECOND.
11:03 WAS YOUR FAMILY CHRISTIAN? >> MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER
11:06 WEREN'T AT THAT TIME. >> OKAY.
11:08 >> AND WHEN WE WENT -- MATTER OF FACT BEFORE WE WENT TO ENGLAND,
11:14 MY GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST
11:19 CHRISTIANS, COULD TAKE US THREE KIDS TO CHURCH.
11:21 I WAS A BABE IN ARMS THEN, AND SHE MADE MY FATHER PROMISE THAT
11:27 WHEN HE WENT TO ENGLAND, HE WOULD FIND A CHURCH AND TAKE US
11:32 EVERY SABBATH LIKE THEY USED TO DO.
11:34 AND HE SAID YES, HE WOULD. SO HE WAS STUDYING AT SCHOOL,
11:38 BUT ON SABBATH, HE WASN'T AT SCHOOL.
11:42 SO HE FOUND A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH AND HE TOOK US.
11:44 AND HE WOULD SIT IN THE BACK BENCH OF THE CHURCH WHILE
11:49 SABBATH SCHOOL WAS GOING ON. AND IT WAS DURING THE
11:53 WINTERTIME, AND ENGLISH WINTERS CAN BE PRETTY COLD, AND WHAT HE
11:56 WOULD DO WAS -- MOST TIMES IN THE SUMMER, HE WOULD DROP US OFF
12:01 AND COME BACK. BUT IN THE WINTER, HE WOULD SIT
12:04 IN THE LAST BENCH, BECAUSE IT WAS TOO COLD TO GO HOME AND COME
12:08 BACK FOR US, AND THAT'S HOW HE BEGAN TO LISTEN TO THE SERMONS.
12:14 AND HE GOT BAPTIZED FIRST, AND THEN MY MOM GOT BAPTIZED.
12:21 SO MY GRANDMOTHER KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING.
12:27 [ LAUGHTER ] >> AND THEN WE RETURNED TO
12:29 TRINIDAD WHERE I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE.
12:32 GOT MARRIED AFTER I FINISHED MY FIRST TWO YEARS OF COLLEGE, AND
12:37 NEVER WANTED TO WORK FOR THE CHURCH.
12:42 I'M BEING VERY HONEST. I NEVER DID.
12:47 I -- I FELT WORKING FOR THE CHURCH WAS A POOR MAN'S
12:48 EXISTENCE, AND I DID NOT WANT TO BE POOR.
12:49 I CAME FROM A VERY WELL OFF HOME, AND I WANTED TO CONTINUE
12:52 THAT, AND I KNEW THAT I COULD DON'T THAT IF I WAS WORKING FOR
12:56 THE CHURCH, BUT GO HAD HIS PLANS, AND HE HUMBLED US.
13:00 >> YES. >> MY HUSBAND AND I CAME FROM
13:03 TWO DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE TRACK, SO I CAME FROM THE
13:06 WELL-OFF SIDE, AND HE CAME FROM THE NOT-SO-WELL-OFF SIDE.
13:11 AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT MARRYING, THERE
13:15 WERE MANY PEOPLE WHO SAID NO, DON'T, BECAUSE YOU TWO ARE NOT
13:19 FROM THE SAME -- WHAT THEY USED TO CALL SOCIOCLASSES BACK THEN.
13:24 WE CALL IT ECONOMIC CLASS. BUT WE HAD PRAYED ABOUT IT, AND
13:27 I WANT TO SAY THIS HERE NOW, BECAUSE WE DID MORE THAN PRAY.
13:32 IN THE BOOK MESSAGES TO YOUNG PEOPLE, WHICH IS A BOOK -- WHICH
13:37 WAS WRITTEN BY ELLEN WHITE, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS
13:43 TO ASK YOURSELF OF THE PERSPECTIVE PERSON WHO YOU WERE
13:49 GOING TO MARRY, DID HE HAVE THESE QUALITIES AND THE SAME FOR
13:56 THE MEN. AND WE WENT THROUGH AND MADE
13:59 SURE WE COULD ANSWER THOSE CORRECTLY.
14:02 >> YOU WERE VERY COMMITTED CHRISTIANS.
14:05 >> AT THAT TIME, WE WERE. I HAD A HUNG UP, WHERE I WAS
14:13 SAYING WHEN WE GET MARRIED, I'M NEVER GOING TO HAVE FAMILY
14:20 WORSHIP. BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN SUCH A
14:23 BORING THING FOR ME. IT'S LIKE, OH, THEY ARE WAKING
14:26 ME EARLY, AND LAST THING IN THE EVENING, AND I JUST FELT LIKE
14:30 THAT I WAS FORCED TO DO THIS. SO WHEN WE GOT MARRIED, THE
14:35 FIRST MORNING WHEN HE CALLED ME FOR WORSHIP, I SAID I TOLD YOU I
14:41 DON'T DO THIS. AND HE WAS SWEET, HE SAT THERE
14:44 AND DID HIS WORSHIP, AND I HAD MINE IN THE ROOM, AND IT WAS
14:51 AFTER WE HAD KIDS WHEN I REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS.
14:56 >> I HOPE YOU MADE IT EXCITING FOR THEM?
14:59 >> OH, WE DID. WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, IT WAS
15:04 ADULT SABBATH SCHOOL LESSONS, AND THE ADULT LEADING, SO IT
15:08 MEANT NOTHING TO ME, BUT WE FOUGHT THROUGH ALL OF THAT, AND
15:15 THEN WE HAD OUR BIG EXPERIENCE WHEN OUR SON DIED AT THE AGE OF
15:20 FOUR. >> THAT WAS A REALLY TRAGIC
15:22 DEATH. >> YES, IT WAS.
15:24 AND THAT REALLY WAS WHAT TURNED US AROUND.
15:28 WE HAD GONE FROM BEING COMMITTED CHRISTIANS TO BEING VERY
15:32 NOMINAL. >> WAS YOUR HUSBAND A PASTOR?
15:34 >> AT THAT TIME, NO. HE HAD STARTED STUDYING
15:38 THEOLOGY. WHEN WE WERE MARRIED THAT'S WHAT
15:41 HE WAS GOING TO BE A PASTOR. AND THEN HE MOVED OFF FROM THAT,
15:44 AND HE SAID I THINK I'M GOING TO CHANGE TO SOCIAL WORK.
15:47 SO AFTER TWO YEARS OF THEOLOGY, HE DECIDED TO CHANGE TO SOCIAL
15:57 WORK. AND I WAS SO UPSET WITH HIM.
15:58 WE HADN'T PRAYED ABOUT IT, HE JUST CAME HOME AND SAID I
16:04 SWITCHED. AND GOD NEW WHY, BECAUSE OUR
16:07 SPIRITUAL LIFE NEEDED DEEPER ROOTS.
16:08 AND WE GOT THAT WHEN OUR SON DIED, THAT EXPERIENCE.
16:12 AND THEN HE WENT INTO THE MINISTRY HAS AN OLDER PERSON.
16:16 WHEN I SAY OLDER, HE WAS LATE 30S, EARLY 40S, AND -- YEAH.
16:23 >> IT DOESN'T LOOK SO OLD NOW, DOES IT?
16:27 [ LAUGHTER ] >> OKAY.
16:29 LET'S NOT GO THERE SHELLEY. I JUST HAD A BIRTHDAY.
16:32 WE DON'T NEED TO GO THERE. >> OH, MERCY.
16:35 >> AND THEN I GOT CALLED TO WORK WITH THE CHURCH IN TRINIDAD AT
16:39 THE UNION OFFICE, FOR THE CARIBBEAN UNION.
16:48 FROM OUR UNIVERSITY I GOT CALLED TO THE UNION, AND FROM THE
16:51 UNION, I GOT CALLED TO THE GC, BY THEN MY ENTIRE MIND SET HAS
16:58 CHANGED. >> AND NOW YOU ARE IN YOUR THIRD
17:01 TERM AS THE DIRECTOR OF WOMEN'S -MINISTRIES. >> YES.
17:04 >> THAT IS A POITION THAT IS AN ELECTED POSITION.
17:08 >> YES, IT IS. >> SO THAT TELLS ME ONE THING -pHEATHER-DAWN, IT TELLS ME THAT
17:18 GOD WANTS YOU THERE, BUT IT TELLS ME YOU ARE PRODUCING A LOT
17:21 OF FRUIT IN WOMEN'S MINISTRIES. >> WELL, I WILL BACK YOU UP IN
17:25 THAT GOD IS PRODUCING A LOT OF FRUIT.
17:29 >> THERE WE GO. >> AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU
17:32 MEANT TO SAY, BECAUSE WE ARE SISTERS, SO WE THINK ALIKE.
17:35 >> YES. >> BUT THE AMAZING THING ABOUT
17:38 THIS IS THAT I'M NOT THE KIND OF PERSON THAT I THOUGHT GOD SHOULD
17:42 CHOOSE FOR THIS POSITION, BECAUSE OF MY OWN CHALLENGES
17:45 THAT I FACE, MY OWN HEALTH CHALLENGES, AND SO BEING HERE IS
17:50 A MIRACLE IN ITSELF, AS WELL AS JUST SEEING HOW GOD HAS WORKED.
17:56 YOU KNOW, YOU THINK OF LEADERS AS BEING STRONG, HEALTHY PEOPLE,
18:00 AND -- NO, I'M SORRY, THAT'S NOT THE CATEGORY I FALL INTO.
18:05 AND DURING THE TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE, I HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOME
18:08 SERIOUS HEALTH CHALLENGES, AND YET, GOD HAS SAID NO, THIS IS
18:13 WHERE I NEED YOU TO BE, SO -- >> AMEN.
18:16 >> YEAH. >> AMEN.
18:17 LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR TITLE FOR THE PROGRAM TONIGHT, REACHING MY
18:22 WORLD, IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAME UP WITH.
18:24 THIS IS ACTUALLY -- THIS IS OUR THEME.
18:27 >> YOUR THEME FOR THIS YEAR. >> YEAH.
18:29 >> TELL US - THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT YOU MENTION
18:34 WOMEN'S MINISTRIES AND THEY ARE THINKING YOU ARE GOING TO WEAR A
18:38 BIG HAT AND DRINK TEA TOGETHER. WHAT IS WOMEN'S MINISTRIES?
18:42 >> WOMEN'S MINISTRIES IS ABOUT SERVICE.
18:45 THAT'S WHY THE WORD MINISTRIES. BECAUSE THE WORD MINISTER MEANS
18:48 TO SERVE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT, WOMEN
18:52 SERVING EACH OTHER, AND SERVING OTHERS.
18:55 SERVING OUR FAMILIES, SERVING OUR CHURCH, AND SO --
19:00 >> SERVING THE COMMUNITY. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
19:02 SO THIS DEPARTMENT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, ESPECIALLY
19:07 BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK WHEN IT FIRST STARTED BACK IN 1898 WHEN
19:13 THE CHURCH WAS STILL VERY YOUNG -- MEANING THE SEVENTH-DAY
19:16 ADVENTIST CHURCH WAS STILL VERY YOUNG, AND IT WAS STARTED -- IT
19:19 ONLY LASTED TWO YEARS, BECAUSE THE LADY WHO BEGAN IT WAS A
19:25 SOMEWHAT WORK AHOLIC PERSON. SHE BECAME VERY ILL AFTER TWO
19:34 YEARS, TRAVELING 9,000 MILES AROUND THE UNITED STATES AND
19:37 CANADA, MUCH OF IT IN CARRIAGES AND SO FORTH.
19:42 BUT SHE TOOK ILL AND DIED, AND THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT JUST WENT
19:46 QUIET UNTIL 1990 WHEN IT CAME BACK, AND THEN IN 1995, WE
19:53 BECAME A DEPARTMENT, AND I SINCERELY BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY
19:57 HEART THAT THIS IS GOD'S DOING, BECAUSE THERE IS A WORK FOR THE
20:00 WOMEN TO DO IN THIS END TIME. >> OKAY.
20:03 SO THE GOAL -- TELL US -- WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS AND THE
20:12 CHALLENGES. YOU TRAVEL OVER A HUNDRED
20:14 THOUSAND MILES A YEAR, I MEAN, THIS WOMAN IS TIRELESS.
20:20 WHAT ARE SOME OF THE GOALS AND CHALLENGES THAT WOMEN ARE FACING
20:25 AROUND THE WORLD? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE
20:30 DISCOVERED IS THAT WOMEN FACE THE SAME -- THE SAME CHALLENGES
20:35 NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY ARE IN.
20:37 IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT COULD BE A NORTHERN
20:43 HEMISPHERE, SOUTHERN, IT DOESN'T MATTER, RICH COUNTRY, POOR
20:48 COUNTRY, WE ALL FACE THE SAME CHALLENGES.
20:52 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT WOMEN'S HEALTH.
20:54 WOMEN'S WORK LOADS. WOMEN ARE THE MOST WORKED GENDER
20:59 ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION,
21:06 LACK OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION IS A PROBLEM
21:08 EVERYWHERE. YOU THINK OF THE POOR COUNTRIES
21:11 WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE ANY SCHOOLS, YOU THINK OF THE RICH
21:14 COUNTRIES IT'S FAR TOO EXPENSIVE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE.
21:19 THEN WE LOOK AT AREAS LIKE ABUSE, ILLITERACY, AND POVERTY.
21:25 >> SO LET'S -- I KNOW THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
21:30 LUNCH TODAY, AND SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS REALLY QUITE
21:36 SHOCKING TO ME, THAT NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU GO TO, ONE OUT
21:41 OF EVERY THREE WOMEN ARE -- IS ABUSED.
21:45 ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE, AND IT CROSSES ALL SOCIOECONOMIC --
21:50 >> ALL RELIGIONS, ALL CULTURES, ONE IN THREE WOMEN EITHER HAS
21:56 BEEN, IS, OR WILL BE. >> THAT'S AMAZING.
22:00 >> IT IS AMAZING. >> SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
22:03 ABUSE, WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
22:07 >> WELL, AS WE KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO ABUSE, IT'S NOT ONLY
22:12 PHYSICAL, IT CAN ALSO BE EMOTIONAL, MENTAL ABUSE, SO
22:16 IT -- IT HAPPENS IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO
22:22 TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEXUAL
22:26 ABUSE. ABUSE OF THE ELDERLY.
22:29 ABUSE OF POWER. RAPE AND ON AND ON.
22:32 AND SO THERE ARE SO MANY ASPECTS.
22:35 IN SOME COUNTRIES IT'S A CULTURAL THING FEMALE GENITAL
22:43 MUTILATION, DAUGHTER NEGLECT, EARLY CHILDHOOD MARRIAGES, SO IT
22:48 TAKES IN QUITE A LOT OF THINGS. >> YEAH, SEE THT'S WHY IT'S
22:52 HARD FOR ME, WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU GO
22:56 THAT WOMEN ARE SUFFERING THE SAME THING.
22:58 IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE DEGREES IN SUFFERING IN SOME PLACES THAT
23:05 ARE MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IN THE STATES, BUT
23:10 YET, I REALIZE -- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES AS A CHRISTIAN,
23:14 ESPECIALLY, I THINK, WORKING AT 3ABN, THE PEOPLE I WORKWITH, I
23:18 GO TO CHURCH WITH. THEY ARE LOVELY WONDERFUL
23:22 CHRISTIANS. WE HAVE A VERY STRONG FAMILY
23:26 ATMOSPHERE HERE, AND SOMETIMES I'LL TELL MY HUSBAND, WE LIVE IN
23:32 A BUBBLE. BECAUSE WE'LL HEAR THINGS.
23:35 I REMEMBER EVEN IN A SMALL TOWN WHERE WE LIVED PRIOR TO LIVING
23:40 HERE. I WAS WORKING WITH SOME OF THE
23:44 PASTORS IN THE ALLIANCE OF PASTORS, WHATEVER IT WAS CALLED,
23:50 AND I LEARNED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF INCEST, A LOT OF RAPE, A
23:58 LOT OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE GOING ON IN THIS SWEET LITTLE COUNTRY
24:03 TOWN, AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER JUST -- IT WAS JAW
24:06 DROPPING TO ME. >> YEAH.
24:09 >> SO IT DOES HAPPEN, AND WE HAVE GOT TO WAKE UP, BECAUSE
24:13 THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT.
24:17 TELL US THE STORY OF WHEN YOU WERE GIVING A BIBLE STUDY.
24:21 >> OH, YES, I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU TODAY.
24:24 I WAS A YOUNG PASTOR'S WIFE. WE WERE NEW IN THE MINISTRY, AND
24:29 MY HUSBAND ASKED ME TO GIVE BIBLE STUDIES TO LADY WHO WAS
24:33 INTERESTED IN GIVING HER LIFE TO THE LORD, AND BEING BAPTIZED, SO
24:39 I WAS VISITING HER EVERY WEEK. I WOULD SPEND AN HOUR OR SO WITH
24:44 HER. AND MAYBE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN
24:46 WEEKS AFTER WE STARTED, I WENT TO HER HOME AND KNOCKED ON THE
24:51 DOOR, AND WHEN SHE OPENED THE DOOR, I COULD TELL SOMETHING WAS
24:55 WRONG. HER EYES WERE RED AND SWOLLEN,
25:00 OBVIOUSLY SHE HAD BEEN CRYING. AND I SAID DO YOU STILL WANT TO
25:03 DO OUR BIBLE STUDY TODAY? AND SHE SAID YES, I'M FINE.
25:09 AND WE WENT INTO THE LIVING ROOM AREA, AND WE SAT DOWN AND I
25:14 STARTED OUR BIBLE STUDY WITH PRAYER, WE WOULD CHAT A LITTLE
25:18 BIT, AND THEN WE WENT INTO IT. ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, WHEN I
25:22 WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LOVE OF GOD, SHE SLAMMED HER BIBLE
25:25 CLOSED AND PUT IT DOWN. AND I SAID IS SOMETHING WRONG?
25:30 AND SHE SAID, YES, I DON'T BELIEVE A GOD LOVES ME.
25:34 AND I SAID WHY? SHE SAID THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY
25:37 SENSE TO ME, BECAUSE IF GOD LOVED ME -- AND SHE PULLED HER
25:41 DRESS OFF OF HER SHOULDER, AND I SAW THE MARKS ON HER BACK, AND
25:46 SHE SAID IF GOD LOVED ME WHERE WAS HE LAST NIGHT WHEN MY
25:51 HUSBAND WAS BEATING ME? AND I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH
25:54 YOU, I FELL BACK INTO THE NORMAL SOME WOULD SAY SMUG ANSWER, BUT
26:03 IT WAS THE ONLY ANSWER I KNEW AT THAT TIME, WHICH WAS, CAN I PRAY
26:08 FOR YOU? AND SHE SAID NO, THANK YOU.
26:14 AND I SAID DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE?
26:15 AND SHE SAID NO, I THINK IT'S TIME YOU LEFT.
26:17 AND SHE NEVER CALLED US BACK. AND IT TOOK ME SOME YEARS TO
26:22 REALIZE I MISSED THE MARK WHEN IT CAME TO REACHING OUT TO HER,
26:25 BECAUSE YES, WE NEED TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN PAIN AND
26:30 HURTING, BUT EVEN MORE THAN THAT, WE NEED TO HELP.
26:33 AND I WISH I WOULD HAVE SAID TO HER, CAN I HELP YOU?
26:36 DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR? DO YOU WANT TO GO TO A FAMILY
26:42 MEMBER? WHAT CAN I HELP YOU WITH?
26:45 AND I DIDN'T DO THAT. I JUST SAID CAN I PRAY FOR YOU,
26:50 WHICH WASN'T WHAT SHE NEEDED AT THAT TIME.
27:01 >> AMEN. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST LIKE YOU ARE
27:03 TRYING TO COMFORT SOMEONE WHO IS GRIEVING, AND WE TRY TO COME UP
27:04 WITH SOMETHING TO SAY, AND WE'RE NOT BEING VULNERABLE AND REAL
27:06 WITH THEM. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
27:08 AND I HAVE BEEN THERE, YEAH. >> I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE,
27:12 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE GET MANY A CALL HERE.
27:15 I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM ABUSE IN THEIR HOME,
27:19 MENTAL, PHYSICAL, AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE US
27:23 TO PRAY FOR YOU TONIGHT, WE WILL.
27:26 AND NOW I'M SAYING JUST WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE
27:31 YOU, THAT IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS BEING ABUSED, PERHAPS A
27:36 FAMILY MEMBER, OR FRIEND OR SOMEONE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WE
27:39 WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE ACTION, TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE,
27:44 AND ASK WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
27:48 >> BUT YOU CAN CALL US WITH YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS, OR WITH YOUR
27:55 QUESTIONS AT 618-627-4651, OR EMAIL THEM TO LIVE@3ABN.TV.
28:02 AND WE'LL PUT YOU IN THE HOT SEAT IN THE SECOND HOUR.
28:07 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHAT -- AS -- AS WERE
28:09 TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE
28:13 CATEGORIES, POVERTY, WOMEN'S HEALTH, WHEN YOU ARE TRAINING IN
28:20 WOMEN'S MINISTRIES, ARE YOU TRAINING PEOPLE HOW TO HELP?
28:24 >> YES, WE ARE. NOW IN OUR WOMEN'S MINISTRIES,
28:27 AND YOU HAD ASKED ME EARLIER, WHAT OUR GOALS ARE.
28:31 NUTURE AND POWER, SO THAT WE CAN REACH OUT.
28:36 WE NUTURE OUR WOMEN, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO THINK THAT IT'S
28:40 ONLY THE WOMEN OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH WHO HAVE HURTS AND PAINS.
28:44 THE WOMEN IN THE CHURCH HAVE THEM, AND WE'RE JUST BETTER AT
28:48 COVERING IT UP. >> YES.
28:49 >> AND SO WE WANT TO NUTURE OUR SISTERS SPIRITUALLY,
28:55 EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY, SO A LOT OF WHAT WE DO, A LOT OF OUR
28:59 TRAINING HAS TO DO WITH HOW TO STUDY MY BIBLE?
29:03 HOW AM I GOING TO DIG DEEPER IN GOD'S WORD.
29:07 PHYSICAL EXERCISE. WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF A GOOD
29:10 DIET. WE ALSO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE
29:13 MIXING WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND AS I SAID MENTAL HEALTH.
29:16 WE HAVE A WHOLE SERIES OF TRAINING ON THAT PARTICULAR
29:19 AREA, AND THEN WE WANT TO EMPOWER THEM.
29:22 AND WE EMPOWER THEM THROUGH INFORMATION, KNOWLEDGE,
29:25 TRAINING. WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP
29:27 CERTIFICATION COURSE, AND IT HAS MULTIPLE SEMINARS IN IT THAT
29:33 WOMEN LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS THAT THEY NEVER THOUGHT THEY
29:37 COULD DO BEFORE. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE
29:40 CHURCH, AND BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT WITH A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE,
29:43 I'M -- I'M SEEING MANY WOMEN WHO HAVE NEVER FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL,
29:47 NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COLLEGE, BUT THEY WANT TO GET
29:53 A BETTER JOB OR THEY WANT TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES, SO EVEN
29:57 SEMINARS AS SIMPLE AS HOW TO DRESS PROFESSIONALLY, YOU KNOW?
30:01 SO WHEN I'M IN THE OFFICE OR WHEN I GO FOR AN INTERVIEW.
30:06 LEADERSHIP SEMINARS, COMMUNICATIONS SKILLS SEMINAR,
30:11 SO THAT IN A WORK ENVIRONMENT, IN MY FAMILY, YOU KNOW, I COULD
30:17 EMPLOY THESE. SO IT'S A COMPLETE TRAINING, AND
30:20 THAT EMPOWERS OUR WOMEN. AND IT'S A GRADUATION TIME AT
30:25 THE END. THEY GET A SCERTIFICATE.
30:30 AND I HAVE HAD WOMEN WHO TOLD ME, I TOOK MY CERIFICATE TO MY
30:33 JOB, AND I GOT A RAISE, I GOT A PROMOTION.
30:37 WHEN THEY SAW THE KIND OF TRAINING I HAD DONE, ALL OF THE
30:41 TOPIC AREAS THAT HAD BEEN LOOKED AT, AND SO IT REALLY EMPOWERS
30:46 US, AND WE HAVE BEEN COUNSELED THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR
30:50 MINDS. >> AMEN.
30:53 >> AND I DON'T THINK AT THE CHURCH WE SHOULD BE BEHIND WHAT
30:58 EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING. THE WORD IS SAYING MAKE YOURSELF
31:04 BETTER. IMPROVE YOURSELF.
31:06 WELL, THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS IN US.
31:08 >> AMEN. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
31:10 INTERESTS ME THAT YOU MENTIONED THE -- TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO
31:16 STUDY THE WORD, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES YOU MEET PEOPLE WHO
31:20 HAVE BEEN AT THE CHURCH FOR A LONG TIME, AND THEY ARE
31:23 SAYING -- THEY REALLY -- THEY KIND OF HAVE A BELIEF, BUT IT
31:28 MAY BE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING
31:31 THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE BIBLE AND SAY HERE IT IS.
31:34 SO WHAT KIND OF STUDIES DO YOU DO FOR THAT?
31:37 >> WELL, ONE OF THE FIRST STUDIES WE DO IS A COURSE CALLED
31:45 INTRODUCTION TO THE BIBLE, BECAUSE WE WANT OUR SISTERS TO
31:48 UNDERSTAND AND TO KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE IS, AND NOT JUST THE BOOKS
31:52 IN THE BIBLE, BUT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WROTE IT.
31:57 WE'VE GOT SUBJECTS LIKE LIFE IN BIBLE TIMES, SO THAT WOMEN CAN
32:04 UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE CULTURE AND THE LIFE FOR A WOMAN IN
32:08 BIBLE TIMES? HOW -- HOW DOES WHAT THE BIBLE
32:13 SAYS IN CERTAIN AREAS -- WHAT DOES IT MEAN, AND HOW CAN IT
32:18 APPLY TO OUR LIVES NOW? SO WE DO SPEND TIME GOING
32:23 THROUGH THOSE BIBLE TOPICS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SEMINARS THAT DEAL
32:27 WITH MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. >> AMEN.
32:30 >> HOW TO KNOW GOD BETTER. >> AMEN.
32:33 >> MY DEVOTIONAL TIME, WHAT SHOULD THAT LOOK LIKE.
32:40 BIBLE JOURNALLING. WE LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE AREAS,
32:44 BECAUSE WE WANT OUR WOMAN TO BE WOMAN OF THE WORD.
32:47 THEY MUST BE IN IT. I'LL NEVER FORGET ONE TIME I WAS
32:51 PREACHING A SERMON, AND I CALLED OUT A TEXT, AND I THINK IT WAS
32:59 [ INAUDIBLE ] CHAPTER 2 VERSUS SOMETHING -- AND A WOMAN SAID
33:03 WHO? AND I COULD TELL THAT SHE DIDN'T
33:05 EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A BOOK IN THE BIBLE BY THAT NAME.
33:09 AND SO WE WANT OUR WOMEN TO KNOW GOD'S WORD.
33:19 THEY MUST BE ABLE TO RIGHTLY DIVINE IT.
33:20 IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING FOR OUR MEN.
33:21 LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. I WENT TO A PARTICULAR ISLAND
33:25 LAST YEAR IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC, A LITTLE ISLAND, WHERE I MET
33:29 WITH MY SISTERS ON THE ISLAND, NONE OF THE WOMEN HAD A BIBLE.
33:40 NO, I'M SORRY, ONE WOMAN HAD A BIBLE, AND SO I WAS KIND OF
33:41 CONCERNED, BECAUSE THESE WERE WOMEN IN THE CHURCH.
33:42 AND I SAID HOW COME YOU DON'T HAVE BIBLES?
33:45 AND THEY SAID WELL, IN THIS CULTURE ONLY THE HUSBAND HAS THE
33:49 BIBLE. THERE'S ONE BIBLE, AND IT'S HIS.
33:51 NO ONE CAN TOUCH IT. NOT THE MOTHER, NOT THE
33:56 CHILDREN. IT'S HIS.
33:59 AND I SAID, I DON'T THINK SO. AND SO THERE WAS A BIBLE SOCIETY
34:01 ON THE ISLAND, AND I SAID WE NEED BIBLES FOR ALL OF THESE
34:05 WOMEN, AND WE PAID FOR EVERY WOMAN, AND I CANNOT TELL YOU THE
34:08 LOOK ON THESE WOMEN'S FACES WHEN WE GAVE THEM THEIR OWN BIBLES
34:12 FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES.
34:14 THEY WERE HOLDING THEIR OWN BIBLES, AND THEN THEY SAT ON THE
34:18 GROUND IN GROUPS DOING THEIR FIRST BIBLE STUDY FROM THEIR
34:23 BIBLES. THEY COULD READ, BUT THEY HAD NO
34:25 BIBLES OF THEIR OWN. AND SO GOD HAD JUST OPENED A
34:30 WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE -- AND ONE LADY SAID
34:34 TO ME, I'M NOT GOING TO LET MY HUSBAND TOUCH MY BIBLE, AND I
34:39 SAID OKAY NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE NOT ONLY
34:42 DOES HE HAVE TO TOUCH IT, BUT YOUR KIDS NEED TO READ GOD'S
34:47 WORD ALSO. SO THERE IS A SENSE OF, YEAH, WE
34:51 NEED TO KNOW THE WORD OF GOD. >> TO ME -- AND YOU KNOW MY
34:55 STORY -- BUT WHEN GOD TAUGHT ME IN ISAIAH 55, HE SAYS MY WAYS
35:03 ARE NOT YOUR WAYS. MY THOUGHTS ARE HIGHER THAN YOUR
35:07 WAYS. AND THEN HE -- HE GOES ON TO SAY
35:11 THAT -- ISAIAH 55:11, THAT HIS WORD WILL NOT RETURN TO A VOID,
35:17 BUT IT ACCOMPLISHES EVERY PURPOSE FOR WHICH HE SENT IT.
35:23 AND JEREMIAH SAYS THA HE WATCHES OVER HIS WORD TO PERFORM
35:28 IT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS WHEN GOD
35:30 TAUGHT ME TO TAKE THE PROMISES IN HIS WORD AND IN THE
35:40 COMMANDMENTS ARE PROMISES, AND TO APPLY THEM PERSONALLY.
35:44 THIS IS WHEN I OVERCAME THE IDENTITY CRISIS.
35:48 >> YES. >> -- THAT I WAS HAVING.
35:51 AND WHEN I SAY IDENTITY CRISIS. I WAS CORPORATE LEADER.
35:55 I WAS -- I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AN EMOTIONAL OR PSYCHO BABEL,
36:01 I'M SAYING, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHO I WAS AS A CHILD --
36:04 >> RIGHT, AND WHO YOU BELONGED TO.
36:06 >> AND WHO I BELONGED TO. AND I HAD BEEN IN CHURCH FOR
36:10 YEARS AND YEARS, BUT IT WAS AS I LEARNED GOD'S WORD AND TOOK THAT
36:16 PERSONALLY, THAT WAS LIFE-CHANGING.
36:18 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO THE WOMEN THEN -- YOU ARE
36:23 TEACHING THEM FOR LEADERSHIP, BUT LET'S BACK UP JUST A MOMENT.
36:26 WE HAVE GOT THE ABUSE PROBLEM. DO YOU HAVE A VERY PRACTICAL
36:31 APPROACH TO HOW TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE ABUSED?
36:36 >> WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS, WHICH WE DO.
36:40 >> OKAY. >> FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS
36:42 A -- THERE WAS A DAY EVERY YEAR -- IT'S THE FOURTH SABBATH
36:47 OF EVERY -- EVERY -- FOURTH SABBATHS OF AUGUST EVERY YEAR
36:51 THAT IS KNOWN AS END IT NOW DAY, WHICH IS THE NAME OF OUR
36:56 CAMPAIGN. END IT NOW, ADVENTISTS SAY NO TO
37:01 VIOLENCE. THAT DAY WHEN IT FIRST BEGAN WAS
37:04 ABUSE PREVENTION EMPHASIS DAY, THAT WAS BACK IN 2002.
37:09 WE PRODUCED PACKETS -- AND WHEN I SAY A PACKET, IT'S A WHOLE
37:14 RESOURCE KITS OF SERMONS, SEMINARS, HANDOUTS, CHILDRENS
37:20 STORIES, THAT ALL FOCUS ON ONE TOPIC EACH YEAR.
37:25 FOURTH SABBATH OF AUGUST THIS YEAR, OUR FOCUS WAS ON BULLYING,
37:29 AND SO EVERYTHING FROM THE SERMON TO THE SEMINARS, WHICH WE
37:34 PRODUCE, TO THE POWER POINTS, THE HANDOUTS, EVERYTHING IN THAT
37:40 PACKET FOCUSED ON THAT. AND WE GET DIFFERENT SPECIALISTS
37:45 EVERY YEAR TO WRITE. SO WE HAVE FOCUSED ON THINGS
37:48 LIKE RAPE, AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND CHILD SEXUAL
37:53 ABUSE. AND ABUSE OF THE ELDERLY.
37:56 THERE ARE MANY ELDERLY ALL AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE ABUSED
38:00 BY THEIR CHILDREN, AS WELL AS BY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, SO WE HAVE
38:05 BEEN PUTTING THE SPOTLIGHT ON THESE VAIOUS AREAS EVERY YEAR.
38:09 >> HOW -- HOW DO PEOPLE -- IF YOU HAVE GOT ALL OF THESE
38:12 RESOURCES -- AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THESE THINGS WERE
38:18 EVEN AVAILABLE. HOW DO THEY GET AN IDEA -- OR
38:20 HOW DO THEY GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU?
38:22 DO THEY JUST GO TO YOUR WEBSITE AND LOOK AT WOMEN'S MINISTRIES
38:26 AND YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THESE RESOURCES --
38:29 >> WE HAVE A SPECIFIC WEBSITE CALLED ENDITNOW.ORG.
38:39 THAT HAS ALL OF THE MATERIALS WE HAVE CREATED.
38:42 WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD.
38:44 THE END IT NOW, WHIC IS OUR ABUSE PREVENTION CAMPAIGN.
38:48 EVERYTHING IS ON THAT WEBSITE. IF YOU GO TO OUR WOMEN'S
38:51 MINISTRIES WEBSITE, IT WILL LINK YOU TO THAT WEBSITE.
38:55 WE ALSO HAVE ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES THERE AS WELL.
38:57 SO WE HAVE A SERIES OF BROCHURES WHICH WE HAVE CREATED.
39:02 I THINK WE HAVE SEVEN NOW. WE DID A BROCHURE FOR THE PASTOR
39:07 SO HE WILL HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW DO I TALK TO THESE WOMEN?
39:12 I THINK TWO YEARS AGO WE DID ONE ON ONE OF THE AREAS OF ABUSE
39:17 THAT IS RISING VERY QUICKLY, WHICH I DATING VIOLENCE.
39:22 AND WE'RE FINDING IT A LOT ON OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES, HIGH
39:26 SCHOOL CAMPUSES. THIS THING CALLED DATE RAPE,
39:30 DATE VIOLENCE. IT'S REALLY ON THE RISE, AND
39:34 IT'S A GREAT CONCERN TO OURS. SO IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE YOU
39:38 CAN DOWNLOAD IT AND PRINT IT OFF YOURSELF.
39:41 EVERYTHING WE DO IS FREE. >> YOU KNOW, I'M JUST BEING
39:45 IMPRESSED RIGHT NOW IN THAT AS PREVALENT HAS THIS PROBLEM IS,
39:49 AS PREVALENT AS ABUSE IS, YOUR CHURCH, IF YOU WANT TO -- IT
39:55 DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE FOR WOMEN'S MINISTRIES, YOUR CHURCH
39:59 CAN GET ONLINE AT ENDITNOW.ORG, AND GET SOME OF THESE MATERIALS
40:12 AND DO A COMMUNITY OUTREACH. >> RIGHT.
40:13 >> ADVERTISE THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
40:14 THIS IS REALLY AN AMAZING RESOURCE TO THINK THAT THE
40:16 SERMONS AND BROCHURES, EVERYTHING IS ALREADY DONE, AND
40:19 THERE ARE CHURCHES, I KNOW -- BECAUSE WE HEAR ABOUT IT
40:22 ALL THE TIME. WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING TO REACH
40:26 THE COMMUNITY? >> TO REACH OUT, AND ESPECIALLY
40:29 IN COUNTRIES IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.
40:35 FOR EXAMPLE, EUROPE. YOU THINK OF COUNTRIES LIKE
40:42 GERMANY AND CZECH, RELIGION IS NOT ON THEIR LIST AS IT IS YEAR.
40:47 IT HAS A HUGE INFLUENCE IN THE UNITED STATES, IN EUROPE NOT SO
40:51 MUCH. END IT NOW HAS BEEN OUR
40:53 CONNECTION POINT, BECAUSE OUR WOMEN WILL TAKE IT INTO THE
40:58 STREETS. THEY WILL PUT A BOOTH UP IN THE
41:01 TOWN SQUARE AND THEY WILL HAVE LITTLE CARDS, WHICH WE HAVE
41:06 MADE, WHICH YOU CAN GET FROM THE WEBSITE THAT YOU GIVE TO PEOPLE.
41:09 YOU GIVE THEM A SHEET THAT THEY COULD SIGN UP TO AGREE THAT THEY
41:13 ARE AGAINST VIOLENCE, AND THE LITTLE CARD THEY KEEP IN
41:19 THEIR -- THEIR WALLET OR THEIR PURSE THAT SAYS THAT I PLEDGE
41:23 THAT I'M AGAINST THIS. SO IT -- IT IS A WAY FOR US TO
41:27 CONNECT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CHRISTIAN THING ONLY, YOU KNOW?
41:31 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE BEING ABUSED AND THOSE WHO ARE
41:38 AGAINST IT, AND THAT'S WHY THE CHURCH NEEDS TO SPEAK UP MORE
41:44 AND WE AS CHRISTIANS NEED TO HAVE A LOUDER VOICE WITH THIS.
41:48 >> THAT'S RIGHT. YOU ARE GIVING ME SOME PROGRAM
41:53 IDEAS. [ LAUGHTER ]
41:54 >> IF YOU ARE -- WELL, WE HAVE GOT 15 MINUTES IN THIS HOUR.
41:58 LET'S TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUES.
42:03 >> YES. >> AND CAN WE BRING IT CLOSER TO
42:06 HOME? I KNOW THA THERE'S A LOT OF THE
42:08 PROLAPSE ISSUES IN SOME F O THESE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE
42:13 HORRIFYING, BUT TO ME, THE NUMBER 1 WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUE
42:19 THAT I RUN INTO IS WOMEN WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION.
42:23 YOU CAN SPEAK PERSONALLY TO THAT.
42:25 >> YES. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR STORY
42:29 FOR JUST A MINUTE, AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW GOD CHANGED YOR LIFE.
42:37 >> WELL, LET ME BEGIN FIRST BY SAYING THAT OUR -- OUR
42:41 ISSUE -- THAT WE LOOK AT IS BOTH WOMEN'S PHYSICAL AND MENTAL
42:48 HEALTH. WHEN MY ASSOCIATE AND I WERE
42:52 VOTED AS ASSOCIATE AND DIRECTOR, BOTH OF US HAVE A HISTORY OF
42:57 DEPRESSION, AND WE BOTH FELT THIS WAS SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO
43:01 TALK ABOUT, AND WITHIN RECENT YEARS -- I WOULD SAY ABOUT FOUR
43:06 OR FIVE YEARS AGO, WE PUT TOGETHER A SERIES OF SEMINARS
43:10 DEALING ON MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND IN THAT DEPRESSION IS TWO
43:16 SEMINARS, ANGER, UNFORGIVENESS, ANXIETY, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE
43:22 ONES WE FIND MOST PREVALENT AS WE TRAVEL GLOBALLY.
43:25 NOW I HAVE TO ADMIT, IT WASN'T MY IDEA TO GET UP IN FRONT OF A -GROUP OF LADIES AND TALK ABOUT
43:31 MY DEPRESSION. I KNOW HOW -- PEOPLE SAY, OH,
43:35 YOU CAN DO THIS AND YOU CAN DO THAT, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
43:38 HAVE SITUATIONAL DEPRESSION. IT'S NOT LONG TERM, THAT CAN BE
43:44 HELPED WITH DIET AND EXERCISE AND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS,
43:48 BUT MY SITUATION WAS ONE OF CLINICAL DEPRESSION, WHERE THOSE
43:55 CHEMICALS IN MY BRAIN JUST WEREN'T FUNCTIONING LIKE THEY
43:58 SHOULD. SO I NEEDED TO TAKE A LITTLE
44:00 TABLET, AND I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE 1998 UNTIL PRESENT
44:06 TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
44:07 THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
44:09 THANK YOU. >> YEAH.
44:11 >> BECAUSE I RUN INTO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WHO SAY I ONLY BELIEVE
44:15 IN NATURAL REMEDIES, I DON'T NEED TO TAKE A PILL, AND THEY
44:20 ARE CHRONICALLY, CLINICALLY DEPRESSED AND THEIR LIFE IS JUST
44:25 GOING OUT THE WINDOW, AND I -- I BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY HEART
44:30 THAT WHEN BRAIN CHEMISTRY IS MESSED UP, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG
44:35 WITH TAKING A PILL TO CORRECT THAT --
44:40 >> WELL, IF YOU COULD TAKE A PILL FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND
44:44 DIABETES, DEPRESSION IS AN ILLNESS.
44:46 IT'S NOT A -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE -- ARE THINKING,
44:52 WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A PHASE, WHICH YOU'RE GOING
44:56 THROUGH, AND IT WILL PASS. NO, IT STAYS WITH YOU, AND I
45:00 KNOW, BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET OUT OF IT.
45:02 AND IT -- IT WAS TO THE POINT TO ME WHERE I WAS SUICIDAL, AND AS
45:10 MUCH AS I LOVE MY HUSBAND AND MY CHILDREN, THE ONLY THOUGHT ON MY
45:14 MIND WAS, I WANT TO GO TO SLEEP AND STOP ALL OF THIS SADNESS
45:20 THAT HAD ENGULFED MY LIFE. THERE'S A PAIN INVLVED, AND I
45:25 JUST WANTED IT TO END, AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD THINK TO END
45:29 IT, WAS TO COMMIT SUICIDE. AND YOU KNOW FROM EVERYTHING
45:33 THAT WE READ IN THE NEWS THAT EVEN THOSE WHO ARE
45:37 NON-CHRISTIANS HAVE A HARD TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WHEN IT
45:40 HAPPENS TO SOMEONE WHO IS NEWS WORTHY, EVERYBODY IS IN SHOCK.
45:44 WELL, THINK ABOUT US IN THE CHURCH.
45:46 SO IT'S AS YOU SAID, WOMEN ARE SAYING, BUT IF I MAKE
45:50 MEDICATION, IT IS GOING TO DENY THE POWER OF GOD.
45:53 WELL, I'M SORRY, I DON'T ACCEPT THAT.
45:58 BECAUSE IT IS BECAUSE OF GOD'S POWER WORKING IN US THAT WE CAN
46:03 BE DOCTOR'S AND LAWYERS AND TEACHERS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
46:07 SCIENCE IS NOT A FIELD MADE UP BY THE DEVIL.
46:11 I REFUSE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF THAT HAS
46:15 COME OUT OF THAT. SO I ENCOURAGE MY SISTERS, AND I
46:19 CANNOT TELL YOU THE WOMEN WHO COME TO ME AND SAY, I'M SO GLAD
46:23 THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING THROUGH WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH.
46:26 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM AFRICA TO INDIA, TO RUSSIA, TO
46:31 AMERICA, TO THE CARIBBEAN -- IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE, BUT MANY
46:34 ARE SUFFERING SILENTLY. LAST YEAR, I MET A DEAR SISTER
46:38 IN AFRICA, AND SHE SAID TO ME, I COULD NEVER EVEN GO TO SEE A
46:44 DOCTOR ABOUT THIS, IF MY FAMILY NEW, IF MY CHURCH FAMILY KNEW, I
46:50 COULDN'T GO BACK THERE ANYMORE, BECAUSE I WOULD BE DENYING GOD'S
46:54 POWER. >> I INTERVIEWED A DOCTOR WHO
46:57 HAS WRITTEN A WONDERFUL BOOK CALLED DEPRESSION, THE WAY OUT,
47:01 AND WE ARE TALKING -- I HAVE SOMETHING HERE FROM COLIN AND I
47:07 WON'T CALL YOUR LAST NAME. LET ME INTERJECT THIS.
47:10 HE SAYS MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN GET ABUSED BY OTHERS, MALE AND
47:17 FEMALE. WOMEN ARE NOT ALONE IN GETTING
47:19 ABUSED. WE RECOGNIZE THAT.
47:21 AND WE ARE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES, AND ARE
47:26 REACHING OUT. SO WE DIDN'T MEAN TO SOUND LIKE
47:29 WOMEN ARE THE ONLY ONES BEING ABUSED.
47:32 HE SAID YOU ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE WORLD, BELIEVING
47:35 THE LIES IN THE WORLD. IT -- ABUSE IS -- IT GOES ACROSS
47:39 ALL GENDERS, ALL SOCIOECONOMIC --
47:42 >> ALL AGES. >> BUT WHEN IT COMES TO
47:46 DEPRESSION WOMEN AREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHO SUFFER FROM DEPRESSION
47:50 EITHER. >> BUT THEY ARE THE MAJORITY,
47:52 AND IT IS THE SAME WITH ABUSE. THE MAJORITY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
47:57 ALL GENDERS AND ALL AGES, WOMEN ARE IN THE MAJORITY.
48:01 TO THE POINT THAT AT ONE TIME THE UNITED NATION CALLED IT A
48:07 PANDEMIC FOR WOMEN, BECAUSE SO MANY WOMEN WERE DIEING BECAUSE
48:10 OF ABUSE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH
48:15 AND DEPRESSION, THE MAJORITY, AGAIN, ARE WOMEN.
48:19 AND THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY ARE MY FOCUS, BUT
48:23 AS THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, IT IS ACROSS THE BOARD, MALE AND
48:30 FE FEMALE.
48:31 >> THE DOCTOR I WAS TALKING ABOUT, GETTING
48:51 ENOUGH SUNSHINE AND ALL OF THESE THINGS AND SEE DRAMATIC
48:55 IMPROVEMENT, BUT I ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY ONE NIGHT, BECAUSE
48:59 HE HAS WRITTEN THE MANUAL ON -- WHAT WOULD YOU CALL
49:05 IT -- HOLISTIC HEALING TO DEPRESSION.
49:08 AND I SAID DO YOU EVER PRESCRIBE YOUR PATIENTS ANTIDEPRESSANT,
49:14 AND HE SAID SURE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO AT LEAST
49:18 START WITH THAT, TO KICK OFF THE SEROTONIN DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR
49:22 BRAINS, AND SOME PEOPLE CAN BE WEANED OFF, OTHERS CAN'T.
49:28 >> THAT'S TRUE. >> SO IN YOUR SITUATION YOU HAVE
49:31 FOUND IT NECESSARY TO CONTINUE, BUT LOOK AT WHAT GOD HAS DONE
49:36 WITH YOU. >> AND THAT'S WHY I SAY MY
49:39 JOURNEY IN THIS PARTICULAR POSITION AS WOMEN'S MINISTRIES
49:43 DIRECTOR IS A GOD THING. IT'S NOT ABOUT ME.
49:46 BECAUSE IF IT WAS ABOUT ME, I WOULD SAY NO, LORD, THERE IS NO
49:50 WAY YOU CAN USE SOMEONE LIKE ME. BUT HAVING THE PROBLEMS THAT I
49:54 HAVE, AND SHARING IT, AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING.
50:02 HAVING THAT PUSH FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO SAYS YOU NEED TO TALK
50:05 ABOUT WHAT GOD IS DOING FOR YOU IN THIS AREA AND IN THIS AREA,
50:09 AND WHEN YOU SHARE THAT, IT MEANS THE WORLD TO THE WOMEN AND
50:13 THE MEN, WHO ARE LISTENING, BECAUSE IT'S -- IT'S WONDERFUL
50:17 TO SHARE GOD'S WORD. WE NEED TO DO THAT, BUT WHEN GOD
50:22 PUTS YOU ON A STAGE WHERE YOU ARE NOT SHARING ONLY ONE TO ONE
50:26 OR IN A SMALL GROUP -- YOU ARE SHARING WITH HUNDREDS AND
50:30 THOUSANDS. HE NEEDS YOU TO BEGIN TALKING
50:32 ABOUT -- SO WHAT AM I DOING FOR YOU?
50:35 HOW DOES THIS WORD APPLY TO YOUR LIFE?
50:38 SO IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER GOOD THEOLOGICAL, BIBLICALLY-BASED
50:43 SERMON, IT HAS GOT TO BE PRACTICAL --
50:48 >> TO THE VULNERABLE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
50:50 THAT'S RIGHT. >> IT HAS TO BE TRANSPARENT.
50:53 >> YES. YES.
50:54 SO I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT GOD MADE IT SOMEONE WHO HAS THE
50:58 CHALLENGES THAT I DO. YOU KNOW, I WOULD PREFER IF I
51:02 WASN'T ON THE WORLD STAGE WITH THESE THINGS, TALKING ABOUT IT
51:05 ON TELEVISION, BUT, YOU KNOW, I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IT IS
51:09 NEEDED AND -- AND THAT THERE ARE WOMEN AND MEN WHO ARE BEING
51:16 HELPED. >> YES.
51:17 LET ME READ SOMETHING THAT -- ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A
51:20 LIVE PROGRAM, YOU CAN SEND YOUR QUESTIONS OR PRAYER REQUESTS OR
51:26 CALL AT 618-627-4651, OR EMAIL US AT LIVE@3ABN.TV.
51:31 THIS IS A SOBERING REQUEST HERE -- OR QUESTION.
51:41 GLENA FROM MICHIGAN, HOW DOES A PERSON OVERCOME BEING ABUSED
51:48 WHEN THEY WERE A CHILD, AND BY A HUSBAND, AND BY SIBLINGS.
51:55 NOTHING HELPS. HAS BEEN IN HOSPITALS AND MENTAL
52:02 INSTITUTIONS. DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE,
52:05 AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW TOEFR COME IT.
52:08 >> I HAVE MET WOMEN WHO HAVE TOLD ME SIMILAR STORIES.
52:13 AND WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE.
52:17 THE FIRST THING I CUE INTO IS THIS PERSON IS IN A DARK PLACE.
52:22 WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT OF THAT DARK PLACE.
52:24 >> THEY ARE FEELING HOPELESS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
52:28 UNTIL YOU CAN GET THEM TO SEE THE LIGHT AT THEN OF THE TUNNEL.
52:33 THIS PERSON SOUNDS VERY DEPRESSED, VERY HOPELESS.
52:36 SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THESE THINGS IN HER LIFE, AND IT
52:39 SEEMS LIKE NOTHING IS WORKING, AND SO THE FIRST THING I WOULD
52:43 SUGGEST IS -- DON'T GO BACK TO THE SAME DOCTOR, IF IT'S THE
52:46 SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. MAYBE SHE NEEDS TO FIND A NEW
52:50 DOCTOR, WHO WILL THEN TRY A NEW MEDICATION ON HER WHERE
52:55 DEPRESSION IS CONCERNED. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE SAY I HAVE
53:00 BEEN TO A DOCTOR AND THEY TRIED THIS AND THIS.
53:03 AND I SAID BEEN THERE, ONE AFTER ONE AFTER ONE, UNTIL WE GOT ONE
53:08 THAT WORKED. BUT I HAD TO DO IT, BECAUSE MY
53:11 FAMILY NEEDED ME TO DO IT, AND I FINALLY DID, AND THROUGH THE
53:15 YEARS WE HAVE CHANGED, AND THROUGH THE YEARS WE HAVE DONE
53:20 THE DOSAGES, LET'S BRING IT DOWN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, AND I END
53:25 UP FALLING OFF OF THE CLIFF, AND WE HAVE TO PUT IT BACK UP AGAIN.
53:28 BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY TO HER, LET'S DEAL WITH THE
53:32 DARKNESS AND THE HELPFULLESSNESS FIRST.
53:39 >> SOMETIMES ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY A
53:42 CHILD -- OR AS A CHILD -- SOMETIMES YOU, THEN,
53:47 ALMOST ATTRACT THAT -- >> YES.
53:49 >> -- AS YOU MARRY THE WRONG PERSON.
53:52 YOU GET ABUSED, BUT THERE IS THAT SENSE OF -- MAYBE
53:58 WORTHLESSNESS, BUT THEN THERE CAN ALSO BE UNFORGIVENESS.
54:02 >> YES. >> HOW WOULD YOU TALK TO THAT?
54:05 >> I'M GOING TO GO EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT.
54:11 THERE COULD ALSO BE DEMONIC INTERFERENCE IN OUR LIFE BECAUSE
54:14 OF WHAT SHE HAS GONE THROUGH AND EXPERIENCED.
54:16 SO I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND TO HER TO BE ANOINTED.
54:20 >> AMEN. AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS, BECAUSE
54:24 WE DON'T WANT TO END WITH THAT COMMENT, AND WE ONLY HAVE A FEW
54:30 MINUTES. IN THE UNITED STATES WE TAKE
54:32 DEMONIC INFLUENCE JUST KIND OF LIKE -- OKAY.
54:36 I GUARANTEE YOU. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN SOUTH
54:41 AFRICA FOR A CAMP MEETING, AND I ASKED THE CONFERENCE PRESIDENT
54:46 AND THE TREASURER AND SOE OTHERS, I LOOKED AT THEM, AND I
54:49 SAID, HOW SERIOUSLY DO YOU TAKE A CALL DELIVERANCE, BECAUSE WE
54:57 WERE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS HERE, COMING FROM THE STATES.
55:00 AND WHEN I SAID THAT, THEY ALL WENT -- THEY ARE LOOKING AROUND,
55:04 AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, THEY THINK I'M CRAZY.
55:08 AND THEY SAID WE'LL TELL YOU HOW SERIOUSLY WE TAKE IT.
55:12 WE FAST AND PRAY FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE WE GO OUT.
55:15 IT IS A VERY REAL THING -- >> IT'S VERY REAL.
55:18 >> -- AND OFTENTIMES THE VICTIM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN THINK TO SAY
55:24 THAT YOU HAVE DEMONIC INFLUENCE SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE
55:29 SOMETHING WRONG, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO,
55:35 IT CAN OPEN THAT GATE FOR THAT. >> DEFINITELY SO.
55:38 AND THE DEVIL CAN ALSO -- AND WHEN I SAY INFLUENCE, I'M NOT
55:42 SAYING THAT THIS PERSON IS DEMON POSSESSED, THE DEVIL CAN CREATE
55:47 AN ATMOSPHERE AROUND US THAT CAN MAKE US FEEL VERY OPPRESSED,
55:52 VERY MUCH HOPELESS AND HELPLESS, AND AT A TIME LIKE THAT, WHEN
55:57 SOMEBODY REACHES OUT IN PRAYER, THAT CAN LIFT, OR IF WE CRY OUT
56:02 IN PRAYER, AND SAY LORD, HELP ME, I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS, THAT
56:07 CAN LIFT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD NOT
56:09 TAKE IT LIGHTLY, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE THERE IS A
56:13 BATTLE GOING ON THAT WE CANNOT IGNORE.
56:18 >> AMEN. I WANT TO REMIND YOU AGAIN THIS
56:21 IS LIFE AND YOU CAN CALL US AT 618-627-4651 OR YOU CAN EMAIL US
56:28 AT LIVE@3ABN.TV. AND GLENNA, PLEASE STAY TUNED.
56:34 I WANT TO SHARE A PERSONAL STORY WHEN WE GET ON THE OTHER SIDE,
56:38 AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SHARE A LITTLE MORE OF YOUR PERSONAL
56:42 STORY, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH
56:46 GREAT TRAGEDIES -- I THINK GOD CAN RAISE YOU UP, AND USE YOU IN
56:52 A POWERFUL WAY, AND GLENNA, I BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY HEART
56:59 THAT GOD HAS PLANS FOR YOUR LIFE.
57:01 AND IT'S A PLAN TO BRING YOU HOPE AND A FUTURE.
57:05 SO PLEASE, DON'T GIVE UP, BECAUSE GOD LOVES YOU, AND WE'RE
57:09 GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND I'LL
57:14 SHARE SOMETHING AND BE A LITTLE TRANSPARENT, AND WE'LL HAVE YOU
57:19 SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE'RE JUST SO VERY THANKFUL THAT
57:22 EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE JOINED US. I WILL READ ONE QUICK ONE.
57:28 IT SAYS PLEASE PRAY FOR MY DAUGHTER'S FRIEND WHO IS WAITING
57:35 TEST RESULTS FOR POSSIBLE MYELOMA.
57:39 AND WE'LL PRAY FOR THAT PRAYER REQUEST AS SOON AS WE GET BACK.
57:44 SO PLEASE STAY TUNED. THERE'S MORE TO COME.
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