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Program Code: TL018536A
00:01 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:06 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ 00:18 ♪ REMOVING PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪ 00:26 ♪ LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪ 00:34 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 00:45 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 01:08 >> HELLO. I'M SHELLEY QUINN AND WE WELCOME 01:12 YOU ONCE AGAIN TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE." 01:16 AND THIS IS A LIVE PROGRAM, SO WE WANT YOU TO CALL IN YOUR 01:20 QUESTIONS, AND YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT 01:24 AND WE'LL TRY TO GET TO AS MANY OF THEM AS POSSIBLE. 01:27 AND I'LL TELL YOU HOW DO THAT IN JUST A SECOND. 01:31 I'M SO EXCITED, BECAUSE I HAVE A DEAR FRIEND HERE IN THE STUDIO 01:36 WITH ME TONIGHT, AND THIS IS A WOMAN SERVANT OF GOD. 01:41 I MEAN, THIS LADY TRAVELS 100,000 MILES PER YEAR SERVING 01:57 THE LORD. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT 02:01 HEATHER-DAWN SMALL WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES. 02:10 THANK YOU FOR COMING. >> I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE. 02:15 >> WE MET, I BELIEVE, WASN'T IT WHEN WE HAD THE GRACE SYMPOSIUM. 02:20 I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME -- >> THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE 02:24 MET. >> AND WE JUST HAD A IMMEDIATE 02:27 CONNECTION. >> A HOT CONNECTION, I'LL CALL IT.>> DID YOU AY HOT OR HARD? 02:35 >> HEART. >> HEART. 02:38 BUT IT IS A HOT ONE TOO TO THE LORD. 02:41 WE WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRAYERS AND LOVE AND 02:45 FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF 3ABN, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO WHAT 02:48 WE'RE DOING WITHOUT YOU. LET ME READ A SCRIPTURE, AND LET 02:52 ME TELL YOU WHAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT. 02:58 TONIGHT'S TITLE IS REACH THE WORLD. 03:01 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REACHING THE WORLD AROUND YOU. 03:03 THE THEME FOR THE GENERAL CONFERENCE IS REACH OUR WORLD -- 03:09 >> REACH THE WORLD. >> REACH THE WORD. 03:11 >> THAT'S RIGHT. UH-HUH. 03:14 >> BUT IT'S ONE THING TO THINK ABOUT BEING A MISSIONARY, AND 03:18 GOING OVERSEAS, AND SUPPORTING ALL OF THESE MINISTRIES, BUT 03:22 IT'S QUITE SOMETHING ELSE TO THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE 03:25 NEXT DOOR TO YOU, OR DOWN THE BLOCK, OR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE 03:30 NEEDY IN YOUR COMMUNITY, AND HEATHER-DAWN SMALL AND THE 03:34 GENERAL CONFERENCE HAVE -- YOU HAVE BEEN 17 YEARS -- 03:37 >> AT THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, YES. 03:41 >> AT THE GENERAL CONFERENCE, AND 15 YEARS -- 03:46 >> AS WOMEN'S MINISTRIES DIRECTOR. 03:48 >> THAT IS AMAZING. YOU MAY BE THINKING WHY DO WE 03:53 NEED WOMEN'S MINISTRIES. SOMETIMES YO SAY WOMEN'S 03:55 MINISTRIES AND PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE HAVING A LITTLE TEA PARTY 03:59 WHERE THEY WEAR HATS, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU, TONIGHT YOU WILL 04:04 FIND OUT WHAT IS THE GOAL OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES. 04:06 WHAT IS IT ALL ABOUT. WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT. 04:10 AND HOW THEY ARE TRAINING UP LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD TO 04:14 REACH PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY FOR CHRIST. 04:18 IT'S AMAZING. NOW I'M GOING TO READ A 04:22 SCRIPTURE, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME MUSIC. 04:25 I KNOW THAT SOMEBODY TOLD ME WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE. 04:28 THERE WE GO. THE SCRIPTURE IS ISAIAH 61:1-3. 04:34 YOU CHOSE THIS SCRIPTURE FOR US TONIGHT. 04:36 AND HERE IS WHAT THE LORD SAYS. THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON 04:42 ME BECAUSE THE LORD HAS ANOINTED ME TO PREACH GOOD TIDINGS TO THE 04:46 POOR. HE HAS SENT ME TO HEAL THE 04:49 BROKEN HEARTED, THE ONE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU, TO 04:53 PROCLAIM LIBERTY TO THE CAPTIVES IN THE OPENING OF THE PRISON TO 04:59 THOSE WHO ARE BOUND, TO PROCLAIM THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF THE LORD, 05:03 AND THE DAY AVENGEANCE OF OUR GOD TO COMFORT ALL WHO MOURN, TO 05:12 CONSULT THEM AND GIVE THEM BEAUTY FOR ASHES, OIL OF JOY FOR 05:18 MOURNING, THE GARMENT OF PRAISE FOR THE SPIRIT OF HEAVINESS, 05:22 THAT THEY MAY BE CALLED TREES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, THE PLANTING OF 05:26 THE LORD THAT HE MAY BE GLORIFIED. 05:30 AMEN? >> AMEN. 05:31 >> WELL, BEFOE WE DO OUR MUSIC, LET ME SAY ONE MORE TIME. 05:35 THIS IS A LIVE PROGRAM. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR IF YOU 05:39 HAVE A PRAYER REQUEST, YOU CAN CALL US AT 618-627-4651, OR YOU 05:49 CAN -- IF YOU ARE TECH SAVVY EMAIL US AT LIVE@3ABN.TV. 06:00 THAT'S LIVE@3ABN.TV. BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH OUR SPECIAL 06:04 GUEST TONIGHT, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS VERY PRECIOUS TO ME. 06:09 SHE IS ONE OF THE SWEETEST AND MOST GENTLE SPIRITS I HAVE EVER 06:15 MET. AND I LOVE TO LISTEN TO HER 06:40 ♪ THINKING YOU LEFT ME ♪ ♪ I FELT BETRAYED ♪ 06:41 ♪ I KNOW THE PROMISES YOU HAVE MADE ♪ 06:48 ♪ YOU SAID YOU LOVED ME ♪ ♪ YOU SAID BELIEVE ♪ 06:53 ♪ I TRIED SO HARD TO BELIEVE ♪ ♪ HELPLESSLY WONDERING ON MY 07:13 OWN ♪ ♪ ANGRY, AND I JUST COULDN'T 07:18 SEE ♪ ♪ HOW MUCH YOU WERE SUFFERING 07:24 WITH ME ♪ ♪ HERE IT IS, TAKE THE PAIN 07:38 AWAY ♪ ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD PLEASE SHOW ME 07:42 THE WAY ♪-♪ BROKEN AND BLEEDING, I COME TO YOU ♪ 07:59 ♪ YOU HAVE BEEN BROKEN AND BLEEDING TOO ♪ 08:05 ♪ YOU FEEL MY PAIN ♪ ♪ MY GREF ♪ 08:10 ♪ YOU CARRIED IT ALL WITH YOUR CROSS ♪ 08:17 ♪ TAKE ALL MY HURT AND MY ANGER TOO ♪ 08:22 ♪ HELP ME TO GIVE EVERYTHING TO YOU ♪ 08:31 ♪ TEACH ME TO LOVE, CARE, AND FORGIVE ♪ 08:37 ♪ GIVE ME A MEANING TO LIVE ♪ ♪ LONELY ♪ 08:52 ♪ GENTLY SEE ME THROUGH ♪ ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD, I'M TRUSTING IN 09:00 YOU ♪ ♪ HEAL ME ♪ 09:16 ♪ TAKE THE PAIN AWAY ♪ ♪ BRING A BRIGHT DAY ♪ 09:29 ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD PLEASE SHOW ME ♪ ♪ LOVE ME WITH A LOVE THAT'S 09:38 TRUE ♪ ♪ GIVE ME PEACE IN YOU ♪ 09:46 ♪ GOOD SHEPHERD ♪ ♪ I'M TRUSTING IN YOU ♪ 09:58 >> THANK YOU PRECIOUS VONDA. SHE HAS SUCH A SWEET VOICE, AND 10:03 SHE IS A SWEET PERSON. IF YOU ARE JOINING US JUST A 10:06 MOMENT LATE, OUR SPECIAL GUEST IS HEATHER-DAWN SMALL WHO IS THE 10:12 DIRECTOR OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES FOR THE GENERAL CONFERENCE OF 10:17 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. HEATHER-DAWN BEFORE WE LAUNCH 10:21 INTO THE MINISTRY THAT YOU ARE DOING, COULD YOU PLEASE JUST 10:25 SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU -- I WOULD LIKE TO 10:29 HEAR -- YOUR GROWING UP YEARS, AND HOW GOD MOVED YOU TO ACCPT 10:36 THIS CALL TO DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING TODA? 10:38 >> SO HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU HAVE? [ LAUGHTER ] 10:42 >> OKAY. >> LET ME KEEP IT AS BRIEF AS I 10:44 CAN. I WAS BORN ON THE ISLAND OF 10:48 TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO. I SPENT MY GROWING UP YEARS IN 10:55 LEADS, ENGLAND WHERE MY FAMILY HAD MOVED WHEN MY FATHER WAS 11:01 STUDYING. >> JUST A SECOND. 11:03 WAS YOUR FAMILY CHRISTIAN? >> MY FATHER AND MY MOTHER 11:06 WEREN'T AT THAT TIME. >> OKAY. 11:08 >> AND WHEN WE WENT -- MATTER OF FACT BEFORE WE WENT TO ENGLAND, 11:14 MY GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST 11:19 CHRISTIANS, COULD TAKE US THREE KIDS TO CHURCH. 11:21 I WAS A BABE IN ARMS THEN, AND SHE MADE MY FATHER PROMISE THAT 11:27 WHEN HE WENT TO ENGLAND, HE WOULD FIND A CHURCH AND TAKE US 11:32 EVERY SABBATH LIKE THEY USED TO DO. 11:34 AND HE SAID YES, HE WOULD. SO HE WAS STUDYING AT SCHOOL, 11:38 BUT ON SABBATH, HE WASN'T AT SCHOOL. 11:42 SO HE FOUND A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH AND HE TOOK US. 11:44 AND HE WOULD SIT IN THE BACK BENCH OF THE CHURCH WHILE 11:49 SABBATH SCHOOL WAS GOING ON. AND IT WAS DURING THE 11:53 WINTERTIME, AND ENGLISH WINTERS CAN BE PRETTY COLD, AND WHAT HE 11:56 WOULD DO WAS -- MOST TIMES IN THE SUMMER, HE WOULD DROP US OFF 12:01 AND COME BACK. BUT IN THE WINTER, HE WOULD SIT 12:04 IN THE LAST BENCH, BECAUSE IT WAS TOO COLD TO GO HOME AND COME 12:08 BACK FOR US, AND THAT'S HOW HE BEGAN TO LISTEN TO THE SERMONS. 12:14 AND HE GOT BAPTIZED FIRST, AND THEN MY MOM GOT BAPTIZED. 12:21 SO MY GRANDMOTHER KNEW WHAT SHE WAS DOING. 12:27 [ LAUGHTER ] >> AND THEN WE RETURNED TO 12:29 TRINIDAD WHERE I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE. 12:32 GOT MARRIED AFTER I FINISHED MY FIRST TWO YEARS OF COLLEGE, AND 12:37 NEVER WANTED TO WORK FOR THE CHURCH. 12:42 I'M BEING VERY HONEST. I NEVER DID. 12:47 I -- I FELT WORKING FOR THE CHURCH WAS A POOR MAN'S 12:48 EXISTENCE, AND I DID NOT WANT TO BE POOR. 12:49 I CAME FROM A VERY WELL OFF HOME, AND I WANTED TO CONTINUE 12:52 THAT, AND I KNEW THAT I COULD DON'T THAT IF I WAS WORKING FOR 12:56 THE CHURCH, BUT GO HAD HIS PLANS, AND HE HUMBLED US. 13:00 >> YES. >> MY HUSBAND AND I CAME FROM 13:03 TWO DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE TRACK, SO I CAME FROM THE 13:06 WELL-OFF SIDE, AND HE CAME FROM THE NOT-SO-WELL-OFF SIDE. 13:11 AND I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE THINKING ABOUT MARRYING, THERE 13:15 WERE MANY PEOPLE WHO SAID NO, DON'T, BECAUSE YOU TWO ARE NOT 13:19 FROM THE SAME -- WHAT THEY USED TO CALL SOCIOCLASSES BACK THEN. 13:24 WE CALL IT ECONOMIC CLASS. BUT WE HAD PRAYED ABOUT IT, AND 13:27 I WANT TO SAY THIS HERE NOW, BECAUSE WE DID MORE THAN PRAY. 13:32 IN THE BOOK MESSAGES TO YOUNG PEOPLE, WHICH IS A BOOK -- WHICH 13:37 WAS WRITTEN BY ELLEN WHITE, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS 13:43 TO ASK YOURSELF OF THE PERSPECTIVE PERSON WHO YOU WERE 13:49 GOING TO MARRY, DID HE HAVE THESE QUALITIES AND THE SAME FOR 13:56 THE MEN. AND WE WENT THROUGH AND MADE 13:59 SURE WE COULD ANSWER THOSE CORRECTLY. 14:02 >> YOU WERE VERY COMMITTED CHRISTIANS. 14:05 >> AT THAT TIME, WE WERE. I HAD A HUNG UP, WHERE I WAS 14:13 SAYING WHEN WE GET MARRIED, I'M NEVER GOING TO HAVE FAMILY 14:20 WORSHIP. BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN SUCH A 14:23 BORING THING FOR ME. IT'S LIKE, OH, THEY ARE WAKING 14:26 ME EARLY, AND LAST THING IN THE EVENING, AND I JUST FELT LIKE 14:30 THAT I WAS FORCED TO DO THIS. SO WHEN WE GOT MARRIED, THE 14:35 FIRST MORNING WHEN HE CALLED ME FOR WORSHIP, I SAID I TOLD YOU I 14:41 DON'T DO THIS. AND HE WAS SWEET, HE SAT THERE 14:44 AND DID HIS WORSHIP, AND I HAD MINE IN THE ROOM, AND IT WAS 14:51 AFTER WE HAD KIDS WHEN I REALIZED HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS. 14:56 >> I HOPE YOU MADE IT EXCITING FOR THEM? 14:59 >> OH, WE DID. WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, IT WAS 15:04 ADULT SABBATH SCHOOL LESSONS, AND THE ADULT LEADING, SO IT 15:08 MEANT NOTHING TO ME, BUT WE FOUGHT THROUGH ALL OF THAT, AND 15:15 THEN WE HAD OUR BIG EXPERIENCE WHEN OUR SON DIED AT THE AGE OF 15:20 FOUR. >> THAT WAS A REALLY TRAGIC 15:22 DEATH. >> YES, IT WAS. 15:24 AND THAT REALLY WAS WHAT TURNED US AROUND. 15:28 WE HAD GONE FROM BEING COMMITTED CHRISTIANS TO BEING VERY 15:32 NOMINAL. >> WAS YOUR HUSBAND A PASTOR? 15:34 >> AT THAT TIME, NO. HE HAD STARTED STUDYING 15:38 THEOLOGY. WHEN WE WERE MARRIED THAT'S WHAT 15:41 HE WAS GOING TO BE A PASTOR. AND THEN HE MOVED OFF FROM THAT, 15:44 AND HE SAID I THINK I'M GOING TO CHANGE TO SOCIAL WORK. 15:47 SO AFTER TWO YEARS OF THEOLOGY, HE DECIDED TO CHANGE TO SOCIAL 15:57 WORK. AND I WAS SO UPSET WITH HIM. 15:58 WE HADN'T PRAYED ABOUT IT, HE JUST CAME HOME AND SAID I 16:04 SWITCHED. AND GOD NEW WHY, BECAUSE OUR 16:07 SPIRITUAL LIFE NEEDED DEEPER ROOTS. 16:08 AND WE GOT THAT WHEN OUR SON DIED, THAT EXPERIENCE. 16:12 AND THEN HE WENT INTO THE MINISTRY HAS AN OLDER PERSON. 16:16 WHEN I SAY OLDER, HE WAS LATE 30S, EARLY 40S, AND -- YEAH. 16:23 >> IT DOESN'T LOOK SO OLD NOW, DOES IT? 16:27 [ LAUGHTER ] >> OKAY. 16:29 LET'S NOT GO THERE SHELLEY. I JUST HAD A BIRTHDAY. 16:32 WE DON'T NEED TO GO THERE. >> OH, MERCY. 16:35 >> AND THEN I GOT CALLED TO WORK WITH THE CHURCH IN TRINIDAD AT 16:39 THE UNION OFFICE, FOR THE CARIBBEAN UNION. 16:48 FROM OUR UNIVERSITY I GOT CALLED TO THE UNION, AND FROM THE 16:51 UNION, I GOT CALLED TO THE GC, BY THEN MY ENTIRE MIND SET HAS 16:58 CHANGED. >> AND NOW YOU ARE IN YOUR THIRD 17:01 TERM AS THE DIRECTOR OF WOMEN'S -MINISTRIES. >> YES. 17:04 >> THAT IS A POITION THAT IS AN ELECTED POSITION. 17:08 >> YES, IT IS. >> SO THAT TELLS ME ONE THING -pHEATHER-DAWN, IT TELLS ME THAT 17:18 GOD WANTS YOU THERE, BUT IT TELLS ME YOU ARE PRODUCING A LOT 17:21 OF FRUIT IN WOMEN'S MINISTRIES. >> WELL, I WILL BACK YOU UP IN 17:25 THAT GOD IS PRODUCING A LOT OF FRUIT. 17:29 >> THERE WE GO. >> AND I KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU 17:32 MEANT TO SAY, BECAUSE WE ARE SISTERS, SO WE THINK ALIKE. 17:35 >> YES. >> BUT THE AMAZING THING ABOUT 17:38 THIS IS THAT I'M NOT THE KIND OF PERSON THAT I THOUGHT GOD SHOULD 17:42 CHOOSE FOR THIS POSITION, BECAUSE OF MY OWN CHALLENGES 17:45 THAT I FACE, MY OWN HEALTH CHALLENGES, AND SO BEING HERE IS 17:50 A MIRACLE IN ITSELF, AS WELL AS JUST SEEING HOW GOD HAS WORKED. 17:56 YOU KNOW, YOU THINK OF LEADERS AS BEING STRONG, HEALTHY PEOPLE, 18:00 AND -- NO, I'M SORRY, THAT'S NOT THE CATEGORY I FALL INTO. 18:05 AND DURING THE TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE, I HAVE BEEN THROUGH SOME 18:08 SERIOUS HEALTH CHALLENGES, AND YET, GOD HAS SAID NO, THIS IS 18:13 WHERE I NEED YOU TO BE, SO -- >> AMEN. 18:16 >> YEAH. >> AMEN. 18:17 LET'S TALK ABOUT OUR TITLE FOR THE PROGRAM TONIGHT, REACHING MY 18:22 WORLD, IS NOT SOMETHING WE CAME UP WITH. 18:24 THIS IS ACTUALLY -- THIS IS OUR THEME. 18:27 >> YOUR THEME FOR THIS YEAR. >> YEAH. 18:29 >> TELL US - THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT YOU MENTION 18:34 WOMEN'S MINISTRIES AND THEY ARE THINKING YOU ARE GOING TO WEAR A 18:38 BIG HAT AND DRINK TEA TOGETHER. WHAT IS WOMEN'S MINISTRIES? 18:42 >> WOMEN'S MINISTRIES IS ABOUT SERVICE. 18:45 THAT'S WHY THE WORD MINISTRIES. BECAUSE THE WORD MINISTER MEANS 18:48 TO SERVE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOUT, WOMEN 18:52 SERVING EACH OTHER, AND SERVING OTHERS. 18:55 SERVING OUR FAMILIES, SERVING OUR CHURCH, AND SO -- 19:00 >> SERVING THE COMMUNITY. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 19:02 SO THIS DEPARTMENT IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, ESPECIALLY 19:07 BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK WHEN IT FIRST STARTED BACK IN 1898 WHEN 19:13 THE CHURCH WAS STILL VERY YOUNG -- MEANING THE SEVENTH-DAY 19:16 ADVENTIST CHURCH WAS STILL VERY YOUNG, AND IT WAS STARTED -- IT 19:19 ONLY LASTED TWO YEARS, BECAUSE THE LADY WHO BEGAN IT WAS A 19:25 SOMEWHAT WORK AHOLIC PERSON. SHE BECAME VERY ILL AFTER TWO 19:34 YEARS, TRAVELING 9,000 MILES AROUND THE UNITED STATES AND 19:37 CANADA, MUCH OF IT IN CARRIAGES AND SO FORTH. 19:42 BUT SHE TOOK ILL AND DIED, AND THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT JUST WENT 19:46 QUIET UNTIL 1990 WHEN IT CAME BACK, AND THEN IN 1995, WE 19:53 BECAME A DEPARTMENT, AND I SINCERELY BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY 19:57 HEART THAT THIS IS GOD'S DOING, BECAUSE THERE IS A WORK FOR THE 20:00 WOMEN TO DO IN THIS END TIME. >> OKAY. 20:03 SO THE GOAL -- TELL US -- WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS AND THE 20:12 CHALLENGES. YOU TRAVEL OVER A HUNDRED 20:14 THOUSAND MILES A YEAR, I MEAN, THIS WOMAN IS TIRELESS. 20:20 WHAT ARE SOME OF THE GOALS AND CHALLENGES THAT WOMEN ARE FACING 20:25 AROUND THE WORLD? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE 20:30 DISCOVERED IS THAT WOMEN FACE THE SAME -- THE SAME CHALLENGES 20:35 NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY THEY ARE IN. 20:37 IT DOESN'T MATTER. IT COULD BE A NORTHERN 20:43 HEMISPHERE, SOUTHERN, IT DOESN'T MATTER, RICH COUNTRY, POOR 20:48 COUNTRY, WE ALL FACE THE SAME CHALLENGES. 20:52 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT WOMEN'S HEALTH. 20:54 WOMEN'S WORK LOADS. WOMEN ARE THE MOST WORKED GENDER 20:59 ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION, 21:06 LACK OF OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATION IS A PROBLEM 21:08 EVERYWHERE. YOU THINK OF THE POOR COUNTRIES 21:11 WHERE THERE MAY NOT BE ANY SCHOOLS, YOU THINK OF THE RICH 21:14 COUNTRIES IT'S FAR TOO EXPENSIVE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE. 21:19 THEN WE LOOK AT AREAS LIKE ABUSE, ILLITERACY, AND POVERTY. 21:25 >> SO LET'S -- I KNOW THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE 21:30 LUNCH TODAY, AND SOMETHING THAT YOU MENTIONED WAS REALLY QUITE 21:36 SHOCKING TO ME, THAT NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU GO TO, ONE OUT 21:41 OF EVERY THREE WOMEN ARE -- IS ABUSED. 21:45 ONE OUT OF EVERY THREE, AND IT CROSSES ALL SOCIOECONOMIC -- 21:50 >> ALL RELIGIONS, ALL CULTURES, ONE IN THREE WOMEN EITHER HAS 21:56 BEEN, IS, OR WILL BE. >> THAT'S AMAZING. 22:00 >> IT IS AMAZING. >> SO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT 22:03 ABUSE, WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? 22:07 >> WELL, AS WE KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO ABUSE, IT'S NOT ONLY 22:12 PHYSICAL, IT CAN ALSO BE EMOTIONAL, MENTAL ABUSE, SO 22:16 IT -- IT HAPPENS IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO 22:22 TALKING ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SEXUAL 22:26 ABUSE. ABUSE OF THE ELDERLY. 22:29 ABUSE OF POWER. RAPE AND ON AND ON. 22:32 AND SO THERE ARE SO MANY ASPECTS. 22:35 IN SOME COUNTRIES IT'S A CULTURAL THING FEMALE GENITAL 22:43 MUTILATION, DAUGHTER NEGLECT, EARLY CHILDHOOD MARRIAGES, SO IT 22:48 TAKES IN QUITE A LOT OF THINGS. >> YEAH, SEE THT'S WHY IT'S 22:52 HARD FOR ME, WHEN YOU SAY THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU GO 22:56 THAT WOMEN ARE SUFFERING THE SAME THING. 22:58 IT SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE DEGREES IN SUFFERING IN SOME PLACES THAT 23:05 ARE MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH IN THE STATES, BUT 23:10 YET, I REALIZE -- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES AS A CHRISTIAN, 23:14 ESPECIALLY, I THINK, WORKING AT 3ABN, THE PEOPLE I WORKWITH, I 23:18 GO TO CHURCH WITH. THEY ARE LOVELY WONDERFUL 23:22 CHRISTIANS. WE HAVE A VERY STRONG FAMILY 23:26 ATMOSPHERE HERE, AND SOMETIMES I'LL TELL MY HUSBAND, WE LIVE IN 23:32 A BUBBLE. BECAUSE WE'LL HEAR THINGS. 23:35 I REMEMBER EVEN IN A SMALL TOWN WHERE WE LIVED PRIOR TO LIVING 23:40 HERE. I WAS WORKING WITH SOME OF THE 23:44 PASTORS IN THE ALLIANCE OF PASTORS, WHATEVER IT WAS CALLED, 23:50 AND I LEARNED THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF INCEST, A LOT OF RAPE, A 23:58 LOT OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE GOING ON IN THIS SWEET LITTLE COUNTRY 24:03 TOWN, AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER JUST -- IT WAS JAW 24:06 DROPPING TO ME. >> YEAH. 24:09 >> SO IT DOES HAPPEN, AND WE HAVE GOT TO WAKE UP, BECAUSE 24:13 THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT. 24:17 TELL US THE STORY OF WHEN YOU WERE GIVING A BIBLE STUDY. 24:21 >> OH, YES, I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU TODAY. 24:24 I WAS A YOUNG PASTOR'S WIFE. WE WERE NEW IN THE MINISTRY, AND 24:29 MY HUSBAND ASKED ME TO GIVE BIBLE STUDIES TO LADY WHO WAS 24:33 INTERESTED IN GIVING HER LIFE TO THE LORD, AND BEING BAPTIZED, SO 24:39 I WAS VISITING HER EVERY WEEK. I WOULD SPEND AN HOUR OR SO WITH 24:44 HER. AND MAYBE ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN 24:46 WEEKS AFTER WE STARTED, I WENT TO HER HOME AND KNOCKED ON THE 24:51 DOOR, AND WHEN SHE OPENED THE DOOR, I COULD TELL SOMETHING WAS 24:55 WRONG. HER EYES WERE RED AND SWOLLEN, 25:00 OBVIOUSLY SHE HAD BEEN CRYING. AND I SAID DO YOU STILL WANT TO 25:03 DO OUR BIBLE STUDY TODAY? AND SHE SAID YES, I'M FINE. 25:09 AND WE WENT INTO THE LIVING ROOM AREA, AND WE SAT DOWN AND I 25:14 STARTED OUR BIBLE STUDY WITH PRAYER, WE WOULD CHAT A LITTLE 25:18 BIT, AND THEN WE WENT INTO IT. ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, WHEN I 25:22 WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LOVE OF GOD, SHE SLAMMED HER BIBLE 25:25 CLOSED AND PUT IT DOWN. AND I SAID IS SOMETHING WRONG? 25:30 AND SHE SAID, YES, I DON'T BELIEVE A GOD LOVES ME. 25:34 AND I SAID WHY? SHE SAID THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANY 25:37 SENSE TO ME, BECAUSE IF GOD LOVED ME -- AND SHE PULLED HER 25:41 DRESS OFF OF HER SHOULDER, AND I SAW THE MARKS ON HER BACK, AND 25:46 SHE SAID IF GOD LOVED ME WHERE WAS HE LAST NIGHT WHEN MY 25:51 HUSBAND WAS BEATING ME? AND I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH 25:54 YOU, I FELL BACK INTO THE NORMAL SOME WOULD SAY SMUG ANSWER, BUT 26:03 IT WAS THE ONLY ANSWER I KNEW AT THAT TIME, WHICH WAS, CAN I PRAY 26:08 FOR YOU? AND SHE SAID NO, THANK YOU. 26:14 AND I SAID DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE? 26:15 AND SHE SAID NO, I THINK IT'S TIME YOU LEFT. 26:17 AND SHE NEVER CALLED US BACK. AND IT TOOK ME SOME YEARS TO 26:22 REALIZE I MISSED THE MARK WHEN IT CAME TO REACHING OUT TO HER, 26:25 BECAUSE YES, WE NEED TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN PAIN AND 26:30 HURTING, BUT EVEN MORE THAN THAT, WE NEED TO HELP. 26:33 AND I WISH I WOULD HAVE SAID TO HER, CAN I HELP YOU? 26:36 DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE DOCTOR? DO YOU WANT TO GO TO A FAMILY 26:42 MEMBER? WHAT CAN I HELP YOU WITH? 26:45 AND I DIDN'T DO THAT. I JUST SAID CAN I PRAY FOR YOU, 26:50 WHICH WASN'T WHAT SHE NEEDED AT THAT TIME. 27:01 >> AMEN. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST LIKE YOU ARE 27:03 TRYING TO COMFORT SOMEONE WHO IS GRIEVING, AND WE TRY TO COME UP 27:04 WITH SOMETHING TO SAY, AND WE'RE NOT BEING VULNERABLE AND REAL 27:06 WITH THEM. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 27:08 AND I HAVE BEEN THERE, YEAH. >> I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE, 27:12 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE GET MANY A CALL HERE. 27:15 I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING FROM ABUSE IN THEIR HOME, 27:19 MENTAL, PHYSICAL, AND EMOTIONAL ABUSE, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE US 27:23 TO PRAY FOR YOU TONIGHT, WE WILL. 27:26 AND NOW I'M SAYING JUST WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE 27:31 YOU, THAT IF YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS BEING ABUSED, PERHAPS A 27:36 FAMILY MEMBER, OR FRIEND OR SOMEONE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, WE 27:39 WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE ACTION, TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE, 27:44 AND ASK WHAT CAN I DO TO HELP? >> THAT'S RIGHT. 27:48 >> BUT YOU CAN CALL US WITH YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS, OR WITH YOUR 27:55 QUESTIONS AT 618-627-4651, OR EMAIL THEM TO LIVE@3ABN.TV. 28:02 AND WE'LL PUT YOU IN THE HOT SEAT IN THE SECOND HOUR. 28:07 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHAT -- AS -- AS WERE 28:09 TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE 28:13 CATEGORIES, POVERTY, WOMEN'S HEALTH, WHEN YOU ARE TRAINING IN 28:20 WOMEN'S MINISTRIES, ARE YOU TRAINING PEOPLE HOW TO HELP? 28:24 >> YES, WE ARE. NOW IN OUR WOMEN'S MINISTRIES, 28:27 AND YOU HAD ASKED ME EARLIER, WHAT OUR GOALS ARE. 28:31 NUTURE AND POWER, SO THAT WE CAN REACH OUT. 28:36 WE NUTURE OUR WOMEN, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO THINK THAT IT'S 28:40 ONLY THE WOMEN OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH WHO HAVE HURTS AND PAINS. 28:44 THE WOMEN IN THE CHURCH HAVE THEM, AND WE'RE JUST BETTER AT 28:48 COVERING IT UP. >> YES. 28:49 >> AND SO WE WANT TO NUTURE OUR SISTERS SPIRITUALLY, 28:55 EMOTIONALLY, PHYSICALLY, SO A LOT OF WHAT WE DO, A LOT OF OUR 28:59 TRAINING HAS TO DO WITH HOW TO STUDY MY BIBLE? 29:03 HOW AM I GOING TO DIG DEEPER IN GOD'S WORD. 29:07 PHYSICAL EXERCISE. WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF A GOOD 29:10 DIET. WE ALSO LOOK AT THINGS LIKE 29:13 MIXING WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND AS I SAID MENTAL HEALTH. 29:16 WE HAVE A WHOLE SERIES OF TRAINING ON THAT PARTICULAR 29:19 AREA, AND THEN WE WANT TO EMPOWER THEM. 29:22 AND WE EMPOWER THEM THROUGH INFORMATION, KNOWLEDGE, 29:25 TRAINING. WE HAVE A LEADERSHIP 29:27 CERTIFICATION COURSE, AND IT HAS MULTIPLE SEMINARS IN IT THAT 29:33 WOMEN LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS THAT THEY NEVER THOUGHT THEY 29:37 COULD DO BEFORE. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 29:40 CHURCH, AND BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT WITH A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE, 29:43 I'M -- I'M SEEING MANY WOMEN WHO HAVE NEVER FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL, 29:47 NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COLLEGE, BUT THEY WANT TO GET 29:53 A BETTER JOB OR THEY WANT TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES, SO EVEN 29:57 SEMINARS AS SIMPLE AS HOW TO DRESS PROFESSIONALLY, YOU KNOW? 30:01 SO WHEN I'M IN THE OFFICE OR WHEN I GO FOR AN INTERVIEW. 30:06 LEADERSHIP SEMINARS, COMMUNICATIONS SKILLS SEMINAR, 30:11 SO THAT IN A WORK ENVIRONMENT, IN MY FAMILY, YOU KNOW, I COULD 30:17 EMPLOY THESE. SO IT'S A COMPLETE TRAINING, AND 30:20 THAT EMPOWERS OUR WOMEN. AND IT'S A GRADUATION TIME AT 30:25 THE END. THEY GET A SCERTIFICATE. 30:30 AND I HAVE HAD WOMEN WHO TOLD ME, I TOOK MY CERIFICATE TO MY 30:33 JOB, AND I GOT A RAISE, I GOT A PROMOTION. 30:37 WHEN THEY SAW THE KIND OF TRAINING I HAD DONE, ALL OF THE 30:41 TOPIC AREAS THAT HAD BEEN LOOKED AT, AND SO IT REALLY EMPOWERS 30:46 US, AND WE HAVE BEEN COUNSELED THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE OUR 30:50 MINDS. >> AMEN. 30:53 >> AND I DON'T THINK AT THE CHURCH WE SHOULD BE BEHIND WHAT 30:58 EVERYBODY ELSE IS DOING. THE WORD IS SAYING MAKE YOURSELF 31:04 BETTER. IMPROVE YOURSELF. 31:06 WELL, THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS IN US. 31:08 >> AMEN. BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 31:10 INTERESTS ME THAT YOU MENTIONED THE -- TEACHING PEOPLE HOW TO 31:16 STUDY THE WORD, BECAUSE I THINK SOMETIMES YOU MEET PEOPLE WHO 31:20 HAVE BEEN AT THE CHURCH FOR A LONG TIME, AND THEY ARE 31:23 SAYING -- THEY REALLY -- THEY KIND OF HAVE A BELIEF, BUT IT 31:28 MAY BE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING 31:31 THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE BIBLE AND SAY HERE IT IS. 31:34 SO WHAT KIND OF STUDIES DO YOU DO FOR THAT? 31:37 >> WELL, ONE OF THE FIRST STUDIES WE DO IS A COURSE CALLED 31:45 INTRODUCTION TO THE BIBLE, BECAUSE WE WANT OUR SISTERS TO 31:48 UNDERSTAND AND TO KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE IS, AND NOT JUST THE BOOKS 31:52 IN THE BIBLE, BUT TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WROTE IT. 31:57 WE'VE GOT SUBJECTS LIKE LIFE IN BIBLE TIMES, SO THAT WOMEN CAN 32:04 UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS THE CULTURE AND THE LIFE FOR A WOMAN IN 32:08 BIBLE TIMES? HOW -- HOW DOES WHAT THE BIBLE 32:13 SAYS IN CERTAIN AREAS -- WHAT DOES IT MEAN, AND HOW CAN IT 32:18 APPLY TO OUR LIVES NOW? SO WE DO SPEND TIME GOING 32:23 THROUGH THOSE BIBLE TOPICS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SEMINARS THAT DEAL 32:27 WITH MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. >> AMEN. 32:30 >> HOW TO KNOW GOD BETTER. >> AMEN. 32:33 >> MY DEVOTIONAL TIME, WHAT SHOULD THAT LOOK LIKE. 32:40 BIBLE JOURNALLING. WE LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE AREAS, 32:44 BECAUSE WE WANT OUR WOMAN TO BE WOMAN OF THE WORD. 32:47 THEY MUST BE IN IT. I'LL NEVER FORGET ONE TIME I WAS 32:51 PREACHING A SERMON, AND I CALLED OUT A TEXT, AND I THINK IT WAS 32:59 [ INAUDIBLE ] CHAPTER 2 VERSUS SOMETHING -- AND A WOMAN SAID 33:03 WHO? AND I COULD TELL THAT SHE DIDN'T 33:05 EVEN KNOW THERE WAS A BOOK IN THE BIBLE BY THAT NAME. 33:09 AND SO WE WANT OUR WOMEN TO KNOW GOD'S WORD. 33:19 THEY MUST BE ABLE TO RIGHTLY DIVINE IT. 33:20 IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING FOR OUR MEN. 33:21 LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. I WENT TO A PARTICULAR ISLAND 33:25 LAST YEAR IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC, A LITTLE ISLAND, WHERE I MET 33:29 WITH MY SISTERS ON THE ISLAND, NONE OF THE WOMEN HAD A BIBLE. 33:40 NO, I'M SORRY, ONE WOMAN HAD A BIBLE, AND SO I WAS KIND OF 33:41 CONCERNED, BECAUSE THESE WERE WOMEN IN THE CHURCH. 33:42 AND I SAID HOW COME YOU DON'T HAVE BIBLES? 33:45 AND THEY SAID WELL, IN THIS CULTURE ONLY THE HUSBAND HAS THE 33:49 BIBLE. THERE'S ONE BIBLE, AND IT'S HIS. 33:51 NO ONE CAN TOUCH IT. NOT THE MOTHER, NOT THE 33:56 CHILDREN. IT'S HIS. 33:59 AND I SAID, I DON'T THINK SO. AND SO THERE WAS A BIBLE SOCIETY 34:01 ON THE ISLAND, AND I SAID WE NEED BIBLES FOR ALL OF THESE 34:05 WOMEN, AND WE PAID FOR EVERY WOMAN, AND I CANNOT TELL YOU THE 34:08 LOOK ON THESE WOMEN'S FACES WHEN WE GAVE THEM THEIR OWN BIBLES 34:12 FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES. 34:14 THEY WERE HOLDING THEIR OWN BIBLES, AND THEN THEY SAT ON THE 34:18 GROUND IN GROUPS DOING THEIR FIRST BIBLE STUDY FROM THEIR 34:23 BIBLES. THEY COULD READ, BUT THEY HAD NO 34:25 BIBLES OF THEIR OWN. AND SO GOD HAD JUST OPENED A 34:30 WHOLE NEW WORLD FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE -- AND ONE LADY SAID 34:34 TO ME, I'M NOT GOING TO LET MY HUSBAND TOUCH MY BIBLE, AND I 34:39 SAID OKAY NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, BECAUSE NOT ONLY 34:42 DOES HE HAVE TO TOUCH IT, BUT YOUR KIDS NEED TO READ GOD'S 34:47 WORD ALSO. SO THERE IS A SENSE OF, YEAH, WE 34:51 NEED TO KNOW THE WORD OF GOD. >> TO ME -- AND YOU KNOW MY 34:55 STORY -- BUT WHEN GOD TAUGHT ME IN ISAIAH 55, HE SAYS MY WAYS 35:03 ARE NOT YOUR WAYS. MY THOUGHTS ARE HIGHER THAN YOUR 35:07 WAYS. AND THEN HE -- HE GOES ON TO SAY 35:11 THAT -- ISAIAH 55:11, THAT HIS WORD WILL NOT RETURN TO A VOID, 35:17 BUT IT ACCOMPLISHES EVERY PURPOSE FOR WHICH HE SENT IT. 35:23 AND JEREMIAH SAYS THA HE WATCHES OVER HIS WORD TO PERFORM 35:28 IT. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS WHEN GOD 35:30 TAUGHT ME TO TAKE THE PROMISES IN HIS WORD AND IN THE 35:40 COMMANDMENTS ARE PROMISES, AND TO APPLY THEM PERSONALLY. 35:44 THIS IS WHEN I OVERCAME THE IDENTITY CRISIS. 35:48 >> YES. >> -- THAT I WAS HAVING. 35:51 AND WHEN I SAY IDENTITY CRISIS. I WAS CORPORATE LEADER. 35:55 I WAS -- I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT AN EMOTIONAL OR PSYCHO BABEL, 36:01 I'M SAYING, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHO I WAS AS A CHILD -- 36:04 >> RIGHT, AND WHO YOU BELONGED TO. 36:06 >> AND WHO I BELONGED TO. AND I HAD BEEN IN CHURCH FOR 36:10 YEARS AND YEARS, BUT IT WAS AS I LEARNED GOD'S WORD AND TOOK THAT 36:16 PERSONALLY, THAT WAS LIFE-CHANGING. 36:18 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO THE WOMEN THEN -- YOU ARE 36:23 TEACHING THEM FOR LEADERSHIP, BUT LET'S BACK UP JUST A MOMENT. 36:26 WE HAVE GOT THE ABUSE PROBLEM. DO YOU HAVE A VERY PRACTICAL 36:31 APPROACH TO HOW TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE ABUSED? 36:36 >> WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS, WHICH WE DO. 36:40 >> OKAY. >> FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS 36:42 A -- THERE WAS A DAY EVERY YEAR -- IT'S THE FOURTH SABBATH 36:47 OF EVERY -- EVERY -- FOURTH SABBATHS OF AUGUST EVERY YEAR 36:51 THAT IS KNOWN AS END IT NOW DAY, WHICH IS THE NAME OF OUR 36:56 CAMPAIGN. END IT NOW, ADVENTISTS SAY NO TO 37:01 VIOLENCE. THAT DAY WHEN IT FIRST BEGAN WAS 37:04 ABUSE PREVENTION EMPHASIS DAY, THAT WAS BACK IN 2002. 37:09 WE PRODUCED PACKETS -- AND WHEN I SAY A PACKET, IT'S A WHOLE 37:14 RESOURCE KITS OF SERMONS, SEMINARS, HANDOUTS, CHILDRENS 37:20 STORIES, THAT ALL FOCUS ON ONE TOPIC EACH YEAR. 37:25 FOURTH SABBATH OF AUGUST THIS YEAR, OUR FOCUS WAS ON BULLYING, 37:29 AND SO EVERYTHING FROM THE SERMON TO THE SEMINARS, WHICH WE 37:34 PRODUCE, TO THE POWER POINTS, THE HANDOUTS, EVERYTHING IN THAT 37:40 PACKET FOCUSED ON THAT. AND WE GET DIFFERENT SPECIALISTS 37:45 EVERY YEAR TO WRITE. SO WE HAVE FOCUSED ON THINGS 37:48 LIKE RAPE, AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND CHILD SEXUAL 37:53 ABUSE. AND ABUSE OF THE ELDERLY. 37:56 THERE ARE MANY ELDERLY ALL AROUND THE WORLD WHO ARE ABUSED 38:00 BY THEIR CHILDREN, AS WELL AS BY OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS, SO WE HAVE 38:05 BEEN PUTTING THE SPOTLIGHT ON THESE VAIOUS AREAS EVERY YEAR. 38:09 >> HOW -- HOW DO PEOPLE -- IF YOU HAVE GOT ALL OF THESE 38:12 RESOURCES -- AND I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THESE THINGS WERE 38:18 EVEN AVAILABLE. HOW DO THEY GET AN IDEA -- OR 38:20 HOW DO THEY GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU? 38:22 DO THEY JUST GO TO YOUR WEBSITE AND LOOK AT WOMEN'S MINISTRIES 38:26 AND YOU HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THESE RESOURCES -- 38:29 >> WE HAVE A SPECIFIC WEBSITE CALLED ENDITNOW.ORG. 38:39 THAT HAS ALL OF THE MATERIALS WE HAVE CREATED. 38:42 WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THE WORLD. 38:44 THE END IT NOW, WHIC IS OUR ABUSE PREVENTION CAMPAIGN. 38:48 EVERYTHING IS ON THAT WEBSITE. IF YOU GO TO OUR WOMEN'S 38:51 MINISTRIES WEBSITE, IT WILL LINK YOU TO THAT WEBSITE. 38:55 WE ALSO HAVE ALL OF THOSE RESOURCES THERE AS WELL. 38:57 SO WE HAVE A SERIES OF BROCHURES WHICH WE HAVE CREATED. 39:02 I THINK WE HAVE SEVEN NOW. WE DID A BROCHURE FOR THE PASTOR 39:07 SO HE WILL HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW DO I TALK TO THESE WOMEN? 39:12 I THINK TWO YEARS AGO WE DID ONE ON ONE OF THE AREAS OF ABUSE 39:17 THAT IS RISING VERY QUICKLY, WHICH I DATING VIOLENCE. 39:22 AND WE'RE FINDING IT A LOT ON OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES, HIGH 39:26 SCHOOL CAMPUSES. THIS THING CALLED DATE RAPE, 39:30 DATE VIOLENCE. IT'S REALLY ON THE RISE, AND 39:34 IT'S A GREAT CONCERN TO OURS. SO IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE YOU 39:38 CAN DOWNLOAD IT AND PRINT IT OFF YOURSELF. 39:41 EVERYTHING WE DO IS FREE. >> YOU KNOW, I'M JUST BEING 39:45 IMPRESSED RIGHT NOW IN THAT AS PREVALENT HAS THIS PROBLEM IS, 39:49 AS PREVALENT AS ABUSE IS, YOUR CHURCH, IF YOU WANT TO -- IT 39:55 DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE FOR WOMEN'S MINISTRIES, YOUR CHURCH 39:59 CAN GET ONLINE AT ENDITNOW.ORG, AND GET SOME OF THESE MATERIALS 40:12 AND DO A COMMUNITY OUTREACH. >> RIGHT. 40:13 >> ADVERTISE THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING. 40:14 THIS IS REALLY AN AMAZING RESOURCE TO THINK THAT THE 40:16 SERMONS AND BROCHURES, EVERYTHING IS ALREADY DONE, AND 40:19 THERE ARE CHURCHES, I KNOW -- BECAUSE WE HEAR ABOUT IT 40:22 ALL THE TIME. WHAT SHOULD WE BE DOING TO REACH 40:26 THE COMMUNITY? >> TO REACH OUT, AND ESPECIALLY 40:29 IN COUNTRIES IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE. 40:35 FOR EXAMPLE, EUROPE. YOU THINK OF COUNTRIES LIKE 40:42 GERMANY AND CZECH, RELIGION IS NOT ON THEIR LIST AS IT IS YEAR. 40:47 IT HAS A HUGE INFLUENCE IN THE UNITED STATES, IN EUROPE NOT SO 40:51 MUCH. END IT NOW HAS BEEN OUR 40:53 CONNECTION POINT, BECAUSE OUR WOMEN WILL TAKE IT INTO THE 40:58 STREETS. THEY WILL PUT A BOOTH UP IN THE 41:01 TOWN SQUARE AND THEY WILL HAVE LITTLE CARDS, WHICH WE HAVE 41:06 MADE, WHICH YOU CAN GET FROM THE WEBSITE THAT YOU GIVE TO PEOPLE. 41:09 YOU GIVE THEM A SHEET THAT THEY COULD SIGN UP TO AGREE THAT THEY 41:13 ARE AGAINST VIOLENCE, AND THE LITTLE CARD THEY KEEP IN 41:19 THEIR -- THEIR WALLET OR THEIR PURSE THAT SAYS THAT I PLEDGE 41:23 THAT I'M AGAINST THIS. SO IT -- IT IS A WAY FOR US TO 41:27 CONNECT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CHRISTIAN THING ONLY, YOU KNOW? 41:31 WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE WHO ARE BEING ABUSED AND THOSE WHO ARE 41:38 AGAINST IT, AND THAT'S WHY THE CHURCH NEEDS TO SPEAK UP MORE 41:44 AND WE AS CHRISTIANS NEED TO HAVE A LOUDER VOICE WITH THIS. 41:48 >> THAT'S RIGHT. YOU ARE GIVING ME SOME PROGRAM 41:53 IDEAS. [ LAUGHTER ] 41:54 >> IF YOU ARE -- WELL, WE HAVE GOT 15 MINUTES IN THIS HOUR. 41:58 LET'S TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUES. 42:03 >> YES. >> AND CAN WE BRING IT CLOSER TO 42:06 HOME? I KNOW THA THERE'S A LOT OF THE 42:08 PROLAPSE ISSUES IN SOME F O THESE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT ARE 42:13 HORRIFYING, BUT TO ME, THE NUMBER 1 WOMEN'S HEALTH ISSUE 42:19 THAT I RUN INTO IS WOMEN WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM DEPRESSION. 42:23 YOU CAN SPEAK PERSONALLY TO THAT. 42:25 >> YES. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR STORY 42:29 FOR JUST A MINUTE, AND THEN TALK ABOUT HOW GOD CHANGED YOR LIFE. 42:37 >> WELL, LET ME BEGIN FIRST BY SAYING THAT OUR -- OUR 42:41 ISSUE -- THAT WE LOOK AT IS BOTH WOMEN'S PHYSICAL AND MENTAL 42:48 HEALTH. WHEN MY ASSOCIATE AND I WERE 42:52 VOTED AS ASSOCIATE AND DIRECTOR, BOTH OF US HAVE A HISTORY OF 42:57 DEPRESSION, AND WE BOTH FELT THIS WAS SOMETHING WE NEEDED TO 43:01 TALK ABOUT, AND WITHIN RECENT YEARS -- I WOULD SAY ABOUT FOUR 43:06 OR FIVE YEARS AGO, WE PUT TOGETHER A SERIES OF SEMINARS 43:10 DEALING ON MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND IN THAT DEPRESSION IS TWO 43:16 SEMINARS, ANGER, UNFORGIVENESS, ANXIETY, BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE 43:22 ONES WE FIND MOST PREVALENT AS WE TRAVEL GLOBALLY. 43:25 NOW I HAVE TO ADMIT, IT WASN'T MY IDEA TO GET UP IN FRONT OF A -GROUP OF LADIES AND TALK ABOUT 43:31 MY DEPRESSION. I KNOW HOW -- PEOPLE SAY, OH, 43:35 YOU CAN DO THIS AND YOU CAN DO THAT, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO 43:38 HAVE SITUATIONAL DEPRESSION. IT'S NOT LONG TERM, THAT CAN BE 43:44 HELPED WITH DIET AND EXERCISE AND SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, 43:48 BUT MY SITUATION WAS ONE OF CLINICAL DEPRESSION, WHERE THOSE 43:55 CHEMICALS IN MY BRAIN JUST WEREN'T FUNCTIONING LIKE THEY 43:58 SHOULD. SO I NEEDED TO TAKE A LITTLE 44:00 TABLET, AND I HAVE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE 1998 UNTIL PRESENT 44:06 TIME. >> THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT. 44:07 THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 44:09 THANK YOU. >> YEAH. 44:11 >> BECAUSE I RUN INTO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WHO SAY I ONLY BELIEVE 44:15 IN NATURAL REMEDIES, I DON'T NEED TO TAKE A PILL, AND THEY 44:20 ARE CHRONICALLY, CLINICALLY DEPRESSED AND THEIR LIFE IS JUST 44:25 GOING OUT THE WINDOW, AND I -- I BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY HEART 44:30 THAT WHEN BRAIN CHEMISTRY IS MESSED UP, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG 44:35 WITH TAKING A PILL TO CORRECT THAT -- 44:40 >> WELL, IF YOU COULD TAKE A PILL FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND 44:44 DIABETES, DEPRESSION IS AN ILLNESS. 44:46 IT'S NOT A -- IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE -- ARE THINKING, 44:52 WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST A PHASE, WHICH YOU'RE GOING 44:56 THROUGH, AND IT WILL PASS. NO, IT STAYS WITH YOU, AND I 45:00 KNOW, BECAUSE I COULDN'T GET OUT OF IT. 45:02 AND IT -- IT WAS TO THE POINT TO ME WHERE I WAS SUICIDAL, AND AS 45:10 MUCH AS I LOVE MY HUSBAND AND MY CHILDREN, THE ONLY THOUGHT ON MY 45:14 MIND WAS, I WANT TO GO TO SLEEP AND STOP ALL OF THIS SADNESS 45:20 THAT HAD ENGULFED MY LIFE. THERE'S A PAIN INVLVED, AND I 45:25 JUST WANTED IT TO END, AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD THINK TO END 45:29 IT, WAS TO COMMIT SUICIDE. AND YOU KNOW FROM EVERYTHING 45:33 THAT WE READ IN THE NEWS THAT EVEN THOSE WHO ARE 45:37 NON-CHRISTIANS HAVE A HARD TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND WHEN IT 45:40 HAPPENS TO SOMEONE WHO IS NEWS WORTHY, EVERYBODY IS IN SHOCK. 45:44 WELL, THINK ABOUT US IN THE CHURCH. 45:46 SO IT'S AS YOU SAID, WOMEN ARE SAYING, BUT IF I MAKE 45:50 MEDICATION, IT IS GOING TO DENY THE POWER OF GOD. 45:53 WELL, I'M SORRY, I DON'T ACCEPT THAT. 45:58 BECAUSE IT IS BECAUSE OF GOD'S POWER WORKING IN US THAT WE CAN 46:03 BE DOCTOR'S AND LAWYERS AND TEACHERS, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. 46:07 SCIENCE IS NOT A FIELD MADE UP BY THE DEVIL. 46:11 I REFUSE TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF THAT HAS 46:15 COME OUT OF THAT. SO I ENCOURAGE MY SISTERS, AND I 46:19 CANNOT TELL YOU THE WOMEN WHO COME TO ME AND SAY, I'M SO GLAD 46:23 THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING THROUGH WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH. 46:26 AND I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM AFRICA TO INDIA, TO RUSSIA, TO 46:31 AMERICA, TO THE CARIBBEAN -- IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE, BUT MANY 46:34 ARE SUFFERING SILENTLY. LAST YEAR, I MET A DEAR SISTER 46:38 IN AFRICA, AND SHE SAID TO ME, I COULD NEVER EVEN GO TO SEE A 46:44 DOCTOR ABOUT THIS, IF MY FAMILY NEW, IF MY CHURCH FAMILY KNEW, I 46:50 COULDN'T GO BACK THERE ANYMORE, BECAUSE I WOULD BE DENYING GOD'S 46:54 POWER. >> I INTERVIEWED A DOCTOR WHO 46:57 HAS WRITTEN A WONDERFUL BOOK CALLED DEPRESSION, THE WAY OUT, 47:01 AND WE ARE TALKING -- I HAVE SOMETHING HERE FROM COLIN AND I 47:07 WON'T CALL YOUR LAST NAME. LET ME INTERJECT THIS. 47:10 HE SAYS MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN GET ABUSED BY OTHERS, MALE AND 47:17 FEMALE. WOMEN ARE NOT ALONE IN GETTING 47:19 ABUSED. WE RECOGNIZE THAT. 47:21 AND WE ARE SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES, AND ARE 47:26 REACHING OUT. SO WE DIDN'T MEAN TO SOUND LIKE 47:29 WOMEN ARE THE ONLY ONES BEING ABUSED. 47:32 HE SAID YOU ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE WORLD, BELIEVING 47:35 THE LIES IN THE WORLD. IT -- ABUSE IS -- IT GOES ACROSS 47:39 ALL GENDERS, ALL SOCIOECONOMIC -- 47:42 >> ALL AGES. >> BUT WHEN IT COMES TO 47:46 DEPRESSION WOMEN AREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHO SUFFER FROM DEPRESSION 47:50 EITHER. >> BUT THEY ARE THE MAJORITY, 47:52 AND IT IS THE SAME WITH ABUSE. THE MAJORITY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT 47:57 ALL GENDERS AND ALL AGES, WOMEN ARE IN THE MAJORITY. 48:01 TO THE POINT THAT AT ONE TIME THE UNITED NATION CALLED IT A 48:07 PANDEMIC FOR WOMEN, BECAUSE SO MANY WOMEN WERE DIEING BECAUSE 48:10 OF ABUSE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH 48:15 AND DEPRESSION, THE MAJORITY, AGAIN, ARE WOMEN. 48:19 AND THAT'S WHY I TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THEY ARE MY FOCUS, BUT 48:23 AS THIS GENTLEMAN SAID, IT IS ACROSS THE BOARD, MALE AND 48:30 FE FEMALE. 48:31 >> THE DOCTOR I WAS TALKING ABOUT, GETTING 48:51 ENOUGH SUNSHINE AND ALL OF THESE THINGS AND SEE DRAMATIC 48:55 IMPROVEMENT, BUT I ASKED HIM SPECIFICALLY ONE NIGHT, BECAUSE 48:59 HE HAS WRITTEN THE MANUAL ON -- WHAT WOULD YOU CALL 49:05 IT -- HOLISTIC HEALING TO DEPRESSION. 49:08 AND I SAID DO YOU EVER PRESCRIBE YOUR PATIENTS ANTIDEPRESSANT, 49:14 AND HE SAID SURE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO AT LEAST 49:18 START WITH THAT, TO KICK OFF THE SEROTONIN DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR 49:22 BRAINS, AND SOME PEOPLE CAN BE WEANED OFF, OTHERS CAN'T. 49:28 >> THAT'S TRUE. >> SO IN YOUR SITUATION YOU HAVE 49:31 FOUND IT NECESSARY TO CONTINUE, BUT LOOK AT WHAT GOD HAS DONE 49:36 WITH YOU. >> AND THAT'S WHY I SAY MY 49:39 JOURNEY IN THIS PARTICULAR POSITION AS WOMEN'S MINISTRIES 49:43 DIRECTOR IS A GOD THING. IT'S NOT ABOUT ME. 49:46 BECAUSE IF IT WAS ABOUT ME, I WOULD SAY NO, LORD, THERE IS NO 49:50 WAY YOU CAN USE SOMEONE LIKE ME. BUT HAVING THE PROBLEMS THAT I 49:54 HAVE, AND SHARING IT, AND THAT'S THE OTHER THING. 50:02 HAVING THAT PUSH FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO SAYS YOU NEED TO TALK 50:05 ABOUT WHAT GOD IS DOING FOR YOU IN THIS AREA AND IN THIS AREA, 50:09 AND WHEN YOU SHARE THAT, IT MEANS THE WORLD TO THE WOMEN AND 50:13 THE MEN, WHO ARE LISTENING, BECAUSE IT'S -- IT'S WONDERFUL 50:17 TO SHARE GOD'S WORD. WE NEED TO DO THAT, BUT WHEN GOD 50:22 PUTS YOU ON A STAGE WHERE YOU ARE NOT SHARING ONLY ONE TO ONE 50:26 OR IN A SMALL GROUP -- YOU ARE SHARING WITH HUNDREDS AND 50:30 THOUSANDS. HE NEEDS YOU TO BEGIN TALKING 50:32 ABOUT -- SO WHAT AM I DOING FOR YOU? 50:35 HOW DOES THIS WORD APPLY TO YOUR LIFE? 50:38 SO IT'S NOT JUST ANOTHER GOOD THEOLOGICAL, BIBLICALLY-BASED 50:43 SERMON, IT HAS GOT TO BE PRACTICAL -- 50:48 >> TO THE VULNERABLE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 50:50 THAT'S RIGHT. >> IT HAS TO BE TRANSPARENT. 50:53 >> YES. YES. 50:54 SO I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT GOD MADE IT SOMEONE WHO HAS THE 50:58 CHALLENGES THAT I DO. YOU KNOW, I WOULD PREFER IF I 51:02 WASN'T ON THE WORLD STAGE WITH THESE THINGS, TALKING ABOUT IT 51:05 ON TELEVISION, BUT, YOU KNOW, I ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IT IS 51:09 NEEDED AND -- AND THAT THERE ARE WOMEN AND MEN WHO ARE BEING 51:16 HELPED. >> YES. 51:17 LET ME READ SOMETHING THAT -- ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS A 51:20 LIVE PROGRAM, YOU CAN SEND YOUR QUESTIONS OR PRAYER REQUESTS OR 51:26 CALL AT 618-627-4651, OR EMAIL US AT LIVE@3ABN.TV. 51:31 THIS IS A SOBERING REQUEST HERE -- OR QUESTION. 51:41 GLENA FROM MICHIGAN, HOW DOES A PERSON OVERCOME BEING ABUSED 51:48 WHEN THEY WERE A CHILD, AND BY A HUSBAND, AND BY SIBLINGS. 51:55 NOTHING HELPS. HAS BEEN IN HOSPITALS AND MENTAL 52:02 INSTITUTIONS. DOESN'T WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE, 52:05 AND DOESN'T KNOW HOW TOEFR COME IT. 52:08 >> I HAVE MET WOMEN WHO HAVE TOLD ME SIMILAR STORIES. 52:13 AND WHEN THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO LIVE ANYMORE. 52:17 THE FIRST THING I CUE INTO IS THIS PERSON IS IN A DARK PLACE. 52:22 WE NEED TO GET THEM OUT OF THAT DARK PLACE. 52:24 >> THEY ARE FEELING HOPELESS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 52:28 UNTIL YOU CAN GET THEM TO SEE THE LIGHT AT THEN OF THE TUNNEL. 52:33 THIS PERSON SOUNDS VERY DEPRESSED, VERY HOPELESS. 52:36 SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THESE THINGS IN HER LIFE, AND IT 52:39 SEEMS LIKE NOTHING IS WORKING, AND SO THE FIRST THING I WOULD 52:43 SUGGEST IS -- DON'T GO BACK TO THE SAME DOCTOR, IF IT'S THE 52:46 SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN. MAYBE SHE NEEDS TO FIND A NEW 52:50 DOCTOR, WHO WILL THEN TRY A NEW MEDICATION ON HER WHERE 52:55 DEPRESSION IS CONCERNED. I HAVE HAD PEOPLE SAY I HAVE 53:00 BEEN TO A DOCTOR AND THEY TRIED THIS AND THIS. 53:03 AND I SAID BEEN THERE, ONE AFTER ONE AFTER ONE, UNTIL WE GOT ONE 53:08 THAT WORKED. BUT I HAD TO DO IT, BECAUSE MY 53:11 FAMILY NEEDED ME TO DO IT, AND I FINALLY DID, AND THROUGH THE 53:15 YEARS WE HAVE CHANGED, AND THROUGH THE YEARS WE HAVE DONE 53:20 THE DOSAGES, LET'S BRING IT DOWN AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, AND I END 53:25 UP FALLING OFF OF THE CLIFF, AND WE HAVE TO PUT IT BACK UP AGAIN. 53:28 BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY SAY TO HER, LET'S DEAL WITH THE 53:32 DARKNESS AND THE HELPFULLESSNESS FIRST. 53:39 >> SOMETIMES ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN ABUSED BY A 53:42 CHILD -- OR AS A CHILD -- SOMETIMES YOU, THEN, 53:47 ALMOST ATTRACT THAT -- >> YES. 53:49 >> -- AS YOU MARRY THE WRONG PERSON. 53:52 YOU GET ABUSED, BUT THERE IS THAT SENSE OF -- MAYBE 53:58 WORTHLESSNESS, BUT THEN THERE CAN ALSO BE UNFORGIVENESS. 54:02 >> YES. >> HOW WOULD YOU TALK TO THAT? 54:05 >> I'M GOING TO GO EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT. 54:11 THERE COULD ALSO BE DEMONIC INTERFERENCE IN OUR LIFE BECAUSE 54:14 OF WHAT SHE HAS GONE THROUGH AND EXPERIENCED. 54:16 SO I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND TO HER TO BE ANOINTED. 54:20 >> AMEN. AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS, BECAUSE 54:24 WE DON'T WANT TO END WITH THAT COMMENT, AND WE ONLY HAVE A FEW 54:30 MINUTES. IN THE UNITED STATES WE TAKE 54:32 DEMONIC INFLUENCE JUST KIND OF LIKE -- OKAY. 54:36 I GUARANTEE YOU. I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS IN SOUTH 54:41 AFRICA FOR A CAMP MEETING, AND I ASKED THE CONFERENCE PRESIDENT 54:46 AND THE TREASURER AND SOE OTHERS, I LOOKED AT THEM, AND I 54:49 SAID, HOW SERIOUSLY DO YOU TAKE A CALL DELIVERANCE, BECAUSE WE 54:57 WERE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS HERE, COMING FROM THE STATES. 55:00 AND WHEN I SAID THAT, THEY ALL WENT -- THEY ARE LOOKING AROUND, 55:04 AND I THOUGHT, OKAY, THEY THINK I'M CRAZY. 55:08 AND THEY SAID WE'LL TELL YOU HOW SERIOUSLY WE TAKE IT. 55:12 WE FAST AND PRAY FOR THREE DAYS BEFORE WE GO OUT. 55:15 IT IS A VERY REAL THING -- >> IT'S VERY REAL. 55:18 >> -- AND OFTENTIMES THE VICTIM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN THINK TO SAY 55:24 THAT YOU HAVE DEMONIC INFLUENCE SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE 55:29 SOMETHING WRONG, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO, 55:35 IT CAN OPEN THAT GATE FOR THAT. >> DEFINITELY SO. 55:38 AND THE DEVIL CAN ALSO -- AND WHEN I SAY INFLUENCE, I'M NOT 55:42 SAYING THAT THIS PERSON IS DEMON POSSESSED, THE DEVIL CAN CREATE 55:47 AN ATMOSPHERE AROUND US THAT CAN MAKE US FEEL VERY OPPRESSED, 55:52 VERY MUCH HOPELESS AND HELPLESS, AND AT A TIME LIKE THAT, WHEN 55:57 SOMEBODY REACHES OUT IN PRAYER, THAT CAN LIFT, OR IF WE CRY OUT 56:02 IN PRAYER, AND SAY LORD, HELP ME, I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS, THAT 56:07 CAN LIFT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD NOT 56:09 TAKE IT LIGHTLY, BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE THERE IS A 56:13 BATTLE GOING ON THAT WE CANNOT IGNORE. 56:18 >> AMEN. I WANT TO REMIND YOU AGAIN THIS 56:21 IS LIFE AND YOU CAN CALL US AT 618-627-4651 OR YOU CAN EMAIL US 56:28 AT LIVE@3ABN.TV. AND GLENNA, PLEASE STAY TUNED. 56:34 I WANT TO SHARE A PERSONAL STORY WHEN WE GET ON THE OTHER SIDE, 56:38 AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SHARE A LITTLE MORE OF YOUR PERSONAL 56:42 STORY, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH 56:46 GREAT TRAGEDIES -- I THINK GOD CAN RAISE YOU UP, AND USE YOU IN 56:52 A POWERFUL WAY, AND GLENNA, I BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY HEART 56:59 THAT GOD HAS PLANS FOR YOUR LIFE. 57:01 AND IT'S A PLAN TO BRING YOU HOPE AND A FUTURE. 57:05 SO PLEASE, DON'T GIVE UP, BECAUSE GOD LOVES YOU, AND WE'RE 57:09 GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND I'LL 57:14 SHARE SOMETHING AND BE A LITTLE TRANSPARENT, AND WE'LL HAVE YOU 57:19 SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE'RE JUST SO VERY THANKFUL THAT 57:22 EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE JOINED US. I WILL READ ONE QUICK ONE. 57:28 IT SAYS PLEASE PRAY FOR MY DAUGHTER'S FRIEND WHO IS WAITING 57:35 TEST RESULTS FOR POSSIBLE MYELOMA. 57:39 AND WE'LL PRAY FOR THAT PRAYER REQUEST AS SOON AS WE GET BACK. 57:44 SO PLEASE STAY TUNED. THERE'S MORE TO COME. 57:46 ♪ |
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