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To Have and Hold On

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00:18 GUEST. ANGIE, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE ABLE TO
00:23 JOIN US FOR THE FIRST HOUR. LET ME JUST READ THIS TITLE TO
00:26 YOU. WITH TITLES.
00:31 TO HAVE AND TO HOLD ON. IT HAS TO DO WITH BUILDING THE
00:34 MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP. WE'RE ALL INVOLVED IN DIFFERENT
00:37 TYPES OF RELATIONSHIPS. BUT PASTOR AGAIN JUST GIVE US A
00:41 QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT WE COVERED IN THE FIRST HOUR.
00:43 WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO AND YOU HAVE SOME GREAT PICTURES.
00:52 I TOLD YOU THAT I HAVE ONE HERE. WE'RE ASKD A QUESTION.
01:10 CALL US AT 618-627-4651. THE CALL CENTER IS OPEN TONIGHT.
01:14 618-627-4651 WE WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED.
01:22 WE'RE GOING TO SEND A SPECIAL GIFT TO THE COUPLE WHO HAS BEEN
01:26 MARRIED THE LONG US OR E-MAIL US AT LIVE@3ABN.TV.
01:32 WONDERFUL A TIME HERE TONIGHT, BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE A SERIOUS
01:36 QUESTION REGARDING A RELATIONSHIP ISSUE THAT YOU'RE
01:40 ENCOUNTERING RIGHT NOW. OR YOU HAVE A MATTER FOR SPECIAL
01:43 PRAYER. >> WE'RE GETTING SOME OF THOSE
01:49 QUESTIONS WE HAVE AN OUTLINE THAT WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH,
01:52 BUT WE WANT TO GET TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.
01:56 THE CALL CENTER OR THE E-MAIL. >> ARE YOU GOING TO TELL US?
02:01 >> YES, YES. >> I HONESTLY DIDN'T LOSE IT ON
02:08 PURPOSE. RIGHT.
02:13 OH, GOOD. >> CELEBRATING THEIR
02:22 68TH WEDDING ANNIVERSARY BY NEXT WEEK.
02:28 SO FOR 68 YEARS NEXT WEEK. >> THAT MAKES ME WANT TO CRY.
02:38 >> THEY HAVE 12 CHILDREN, A DOZEN CHILDREN.
02:43 >> ABRAHAM AND SARA? >> IT DOESN'T GIVE THE NAME
02:46 HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M MISSING IT, BUT THEY'RE FROM
02:49 MISSOURI. SO PASTOR, A SUMMARY REALLY
02:56 QUICK AND THEN CONTINUATION. >> MARRIAGE IS A DIVINE
03:00 RELATIONSHIP IN HUMAN VESSELS AND MARRIAGE IS:
03:04 >> THE REFLECTION OF DIVINE LIVE FLU HUMAN VESSEL STRESS--THROUGH HUMAN
03:12 VESSEL AS SOON AS AND IT'S THROUGH ESTEEM.
03:17 FIRST HOUR. WE WANT TO SHOW A COUPLE OF
03:20 PICTURES. >> OH, GOOD.
03:42 >> THIS IS PICTURES MUCH US THROUGH THE YEARS.
03:45 HE WROTE A SONG CALLED "DESTINED TO BE ONE" AND THAT JUST TOUCHES
03:51 MY HEART. >> AND THEN A CD "NEVER ALONE,"
03:56 THAT'S ON " "DESTINED TO BE ONE." THIS IS MY WIFE AND I.
04:03 THIS ISN'T TOO LONG AGO. THIS IS IN NEW YORK.
04:06 WE WERE INVITED THERE LAST YEAR. >> IT LOOKS LIKE A STUDIO
04:22 PICTURE. >> YOU'RE DOING A SEMINAR.
04:25 >> I WAS THERE TO SPEAK TO THE OAKWOOD ALUMNI.
04:29 BUT THIS IS SPECIAL FOR US. >> LET'S LOOK AT THAT.
04:44 >> ON THE RIGHT WHEN WE CELEBRATED OUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY.
04:49 >> A BEAUTIFUL COUPLE. >> I CANNOT BELIEVE THAT PICTURE
04:52 IS 10 YEARS AGO. >> NOW MARRIED 35 NOW.
04:57 >> 35 YEARS. LOT, AND EVERY DAY WE HAVE
05:02 LAUGH. >> OR SOMEBODY ELSE.
05:05 YEAH. WE STUDY RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING
05:09 THROUGH-- AND KINGS.
05:14 >> AS WELL AS THE BIBLE. BUT WE STUDY TOGETHER.
05:17 IT'S SO IMPORTANT. >> THAT'S POWERFUL.
05:27 SO SHE GETS UP EARLIER THAN I DO.
05:32 DO MY CLOUDY EYES TO READ A DEVOTION WITH HER AND PRAY
05:35 BEFORE SHE RUNS OUT THE DOOR. AND THEN THE EVENING IS WHEN
05:38 WE-- WE HAVE A LAMP OVER OUR BED.
05:44 JUST NICE AND BRIGHT. AND WE READ THE BIBLE TOGETHER.
05:48 AND THEN SHE CARRIES ME THROUGH PROPHETS AND KINGS TOGETHER.
05:51 WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR BIBLE TOGETHER FOR THE SECOND TIME.
05:54 I NEVER FORGOT WHEN WE--WE WERE IN PARADISE, CALIFORNIA, WHEN WE
05:58 WERE READING THE CHAPTER WHERE JOSEPH--
06:03 >> OH, WHERE HE DIES. >> I LOOKED OVER TO ANGIE, AND I
06:08 SAID ARE YOU OKY? SHE SAID--I WANT TO MEET JOSEPH.
06:13 >> AAH. >> I WAS GOING TO ASK WHAT MAKES
06:27 A MARRIAGE STRONG. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NOT
06:30 GOSSIPPING ABOUT YOUR SPOUSE OR THEIR FALSES WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
06:34 WHAT ARE SOME OTHER KEYS TO MAKE A MARRIAGE STRONG?
06:37 >> WELL, COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE.
06:40 >> TO EACH OTHER. >> NOT TO ANYBODY ELSE.
06:54 >> SOMETIMES WE'LL GO TO RESTAURANTS AND THEY'RE JUST
06:56 SITTING THERE ON THEIR PHONE. DON'T THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY
07:02 TO EACH OTHER? >> SOMETIMES THERE WILL BE
07:08 AND THEIR HUSBAND AND WIFE. AND THEY LOOK UP FOR THEIR FOOD
07:13 AND THEN BACK TO THEIR DEVICES. THERE ARE KEYS TO COMMUNICATE.
07:16 WE'VE LEARNED BECAUSE IN THE NINE YEARS OF DATING, ANGIE AND
07:21 I CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, WE WERE VERY YOUNG AND SELFISH.
07:24 >> VERY SELFISH. >> IT WAS ALL ABOUT ME, WHAT I
07:28 WANTED. >> OH, YEAH.
07:34 ARGUMENT? >> OH-- BELIEVE IT?
07:39 >> WE'RE PERFECTLY I AM PERFECT. I WON SOME TEDDY BEAR.
07:49 I SHE SAID, I WANT THEM ALL. I SAID, NO.
07:56 I WAS SO ANGRY. HAD AN UMBRELLA AND I THREW IT
08:00 IN THE WATERFALL. >> A BIG FOUNTAIN.
08:03 >> IN NEW YORK AND AFTER I THREW IT IN THERE, I REALIZED I WANTED
08:08 IT, BUT THE WATERFALL WAS TOO DEEP TO GET IT.
08:14 >> I LOST MY BEAUTIFUL GOLF UMBRELLA WHEN THEY FIRST CAME
08:18 OUT. BOW AND ARROW.
08:22 I CARRIED IT AROUND LIKE IT WAS A SHEATH SO THAT WHEN IT RAINED
08:27 I WOULD PULL IT OUT. AND THEN I THREW IT IN A
08:31 FOUNTAIN AT TIMES SQUARE. >> HOW DID YOU FEEL WITH
08:36 DIFFERENCES OF OPINION? >> WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE
08:40 LEARNED AND WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH ON THIS,
08:43 BUT WE LEARNED THAT YOU EITHER WIN TOGETHER.
08:50 >> I DON'T WIN AN ARGUMENT AND SHE LOSES AN ARGUMENT.
08:56 WE'RE ON THE SAME TEAM. >> THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS US
09:04 TREMENDOUSLY. SEEN BASEBALL BEFORE.
09:10 AND PEOPLE, GETTING HITS OFF OF HIM OR THE CATCHER WALKS UP TO
09:13 THE PITCHER. HE DOESN'T GET ANGRY.
09:17 ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU TIRED?
09:19 WELL, LET'S BRING IN ANOTHER GUY.
09:24 TOGETHER AND THEY LOSE TOGETHER. I HAD A SEMINAR CALLED HOW TO
09:29 FIGHT FAIR. BUT WE WANT TO TAK ABOUT SOME
09:33 OF THE WAYS TO COMMUNICATE. THESE ARE SOME OF THE KEYS THAT
09:36 WE BROUGHT OUT. AS SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
09:39 WAYS TO LISTEN. MY WIFE AND I ARE TOGETHER.
09:43 WAYS TO LISTEN. LISTEN WITH YOUR EYES.
09:49 >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? >> HONEY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
09:53 YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.
09:57 >> LISTEN WITH YOUR EYES. WHAT DO YOU TELL ME WHEN I'M NOT
10:00 LOOKING AT YOU. >> I SAY JOHN, LOOK AT ME.
10:03 BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'LL BE DOING SOMETHING.
10:10 >> AND I FEEL LIKE HE'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
10:15 >> RIGHT. WHEN WE'RE TALKING.
10:18 THEN HE'LL LOOK AT ME AND I WILL SAY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT EACH
10:22 OTHER. DO YOU HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING?
10:31 THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? >> I LOOK IN HER EYES.
10:38 >> IT MELTS MY HEART WHEN I KNOW HE'S LISTENING.
10:42 HE'S NOT DOING OTHER THINGS. HE'S LISTENING TO ME.
10:46 >> LISTEN WITH YOUR EYES. MAKE CONTACT WITH YOUR SPOUSE.
10:50 >> THE EYES ARE THE AVENUE TO THE SOUL.
10:54 THAT WE CANNOT LOOK AT EACH OTHER.
10:58 YOU'RE LOOKING OVER HERE OR LOOKING OVER THERE, SOMETHING IS
11:03 WRONG. SOUL.
11:08 WHAT YOU'LL NOTICE, EVE WHEN SHE SAID THAT, I NOTICED HER
11:12 EYES WOULD TEAR UP. I COULD LOOK IN HER EYES AND I
11:16 COULD TELL THAT SHE WAS NOT SPEAKING JUST WITH HER MOUTH BUT
11:19 HER HEART. EYE CONTACT.
11:22 IT'S SOMETHING THAT I HAD TO LEARN.
11:28 100 MPH. >> BUT WHEN I'M TALKING I LEARN
11:35 TO TURN IT OFF AND LISTEN. THE OTHER THING IS TO LISTEN
11:40 WITH YOUR MOUTH. >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
11:43 >> TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. >> DON'T INTERRUPT.
11:51 INTERRUPTION ON CRITICAL THINGS IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE.
11:54 BUT WE NEED TO HAVE SERIOUS CONVERSATION AND SLIGHT
12:00 CONVERSATION. CONVERSATION, THE BIGGEST THING,
12:04 THE BIGGEST ACHILLES HEELS FOR COUPLES, THEY LISTEN LONG ENOUGH
12:11 AND THEN WAIT FOR AN OPEN SPOT TO SAY BUT OR HOWEVER, BUT
12:16 THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU MEANT. THE TRAINING TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH
12:21 SHUT WHILE YOUR SPOUSE IS POURING HER HEART OUT OR I'M
12:26 POURING MY HEART OUT, AND MAKES THAT EYE CONTACT.
12:29 YOU'RE REMEMBERING. IS BEING SAID IS STARTING TO BE
12:38 STORED. OR BELITTLE IT.
12:47 LISTEN WITH YOUR MOUTH, HOW? >> KEEP IT SHUT.
12:50 >> KEEP IT SHUT. >> MM-HMM.
12:56 THAT TAKES TASKS. >> SOMETIMES WOMEN JUST WANT TO
12:59 TALK, TALK, TALK, REALLY. I KNOW A LOT OF WOMEN.
13:02 THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE THEIR POINT.
13:06 SHUT SOMETIMES. LISTEN.
13:11 >> LISTEN WITH YOUR NECK. >> OH, OKAY.
13:13 WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? LISTEN WITH YOUR EYES.
13:16 LISTEN WITH YOUR MOUTH. LISTEN WITH YOUR NECK.
13:20 >> KEEP YOUR NECK STILL. SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE--
13:23 >> THE NECK IS WANDERING. >> OH, YEAH, WHATEVER.
13:34 >> DISINTERESTED, I DON'T WANT PLEASE TAKE A LONG WALK ON A
13:40 SHORT PIER, THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S CALLED NON-VERBAL
13:46 COMMUNICATION. LISTEN WITH YOUR NECK.
13:59 EYES ARE MOVING, MOUTH IS SHUT. YOU'RE ENGAGED.
14:03 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE COMMUNICATE WITH YOUR NECK, WITH
14:09 YOUR EYES, AND WITH YOUR MOUTH. WE SHARE THIS, AND I WANT TO
14:16 SHARE MY WIFE'S ONLY THING. THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF LISTENERS
14:19 AND THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF COMMUNICATORS.
14:26 COMMUNICATION THROUGH OUR SPOUSE'S EYES.
14:32 >> ECOCENTRIC. LISTENING THROUGH OUR EYES.
14:35 EMPATHETIC. I FEEL WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
14:39 >> YES. BUT YOU DON'T SEE MY PART.
14:44 YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
14:53 TRYING TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK GOOD, THE EGOCENTRIC
14:57 COMMUNICATOR. DEFENDING RATHER THAN MENDING.
15:03 >> YES, THAT'S GOOD. >> A BIG DIFFERENCE.
15:05 BIG DIFFERENCE. >> LISTEN WITH YOUR HANDS.
15:11 >> HOW DO YOU DO THAT? >> KEEP YOUR HANDS STILL.
15:17 >> OKAY. >> ALMOST LIKE THEY'RE BORED.
15:25 GET IT OVER WITH. >> HURRY UP.
15:31 >> EXACTLY. HANDS.
15:38 COMMUNICATION IS AN ENTIRE THING.
15:42 COMMUNICATION. SPOKE TONIGHT, DID YOU NOTICE
15:48 HOW HE WAS FIDGETING WITH HIS HANDS.
15:54 PERSON WAS SAYING. HE WAS TOTALLY HE'S INTERESTED.
15:59 BUT WHEN--HE WAS TOTALLY DISINTERESTED.
16:07 FOCUSED. IN.
16:16 >> MM-HMM. IT SAYS TO HER.
16:19 >> I HAVE HIS UNDIVIDED ATTENTION.
16:25 YOUR WIFE COULD SHINE IF YOU GIVE HER YOUR UNDIVIDED
16:33 ATTENTION. >> ABSOLUTELY.
16:39 GREATEST GIFTS THAT GREG HAS GIVEN TO ME.
16:41 HE'S A FABULOUS LISTENER. >> OH.
16:46 DO THAT. MARRIED AND HE'LL ALWAYS SAY,
16:51 JILLY, WHEN I'M DONE, HE'LL SAY, JILLY, NOW IS THIS THE TIME THAT
16:56 I JUST WAT YOU JUST WANT ME TO HOLD YOU?
17:02 ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ADVICE OR SOLUTIONS?
17:06 BECAUSE YOU KNOW MEN ARE SOLUTION-FOCUSED.
17:10 HE'LL THINK I NEED TO FIX THIS, I NEED TO HELP HER.
17:13 SO HE'LL SAY IS THIS A TIME TO HOLD YOU OR GIVE YO SOMETHING
17:17 BACK? >> AMEN.
17:21 THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. WHEN GO TO YOUR HUSBAND, AND YOU
17:27 FEEL SO EMPTY, YOU SAY TO HIM, MY LOVE CUP IS EMPTY.
17:33 I'VE DONE THAT. I'LL SAY MY LOVE CUP IS EMPTY
17:37 AND I NEED A HUG AND HE'LL GIVE ME A HUG AND THEN I'LL GO BACK
17:44 TO COOKING. >> WE DO THAT.
17:47 TO FIND A WAY TO SLOW THIS CLOCK DOWN-
17:55 >> OH, YES. >> OH?
17:58 >> LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. [ CHUCKLING ]
18:06 ARE YOU DONE DOING THIS ALREADY? A LOT OF PEOPLE DO THAT.
18:12 THEY DON'T LISTEN WITH YOUR BACK.
18:16 EYES, MOUTH SHUT, POSITION, NECK, SITTING STRAIGHT UP.
18:20 THEY'RE REALLY LISTENING TO ME. THE OTHER ONE, LISTEN WITH YOUR
18:27 FEET. LISTEN FOR FEELINGS AND FACTS.
18:44 I HAD TO LEARN THAT FEELING REALLY DO MATTER.
18:57 MEN WOULD SAY, MY WIFE PLAYS ON ME THROUGH HER FEELINGS.
19:01 THROUGH THE YEARS THAT MADE ME THINK OF FEELINGS DIFFERENTLY.
19:05 BUT I HAD TO SAY WAIT A MINUTE. FEELINGS DO REALLY MATTER.
19:09 WIVES WILL COMMUNICATE THEIR FEELINGS EMOTIONALLY.
19:12 AND NOT ALL WOMEN WHO COMMUNICATE EMOTIONALLY ARE
19:15 TRYING TO MANIPULATE. THEY'LL SAY, YEAH, YOU'RE CRYING
19:21 BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GET ME TO DO SOMETHING.
19:26 IT SHUTS YOUR SPOUSE DOWN. I LEARNED THAT.
19:30 >> YES, YOU HAVE. >> AND I LOVE YOU, TOO.
19:38 >> SHOULD WE DO A FEW QUESTIONS? >> THIS ONE SAYS IS IT OKAY TO
19:43 MARRY MY EX-WIFE AFTER 40 YEARS? >> WHAT DO YOU THINK?
19:46 >> ABSOLUTELY. THAT THEY WERE DIVORCED FOR 20
19:51 YEARS. >> WOW.
19:55 THE CHILDREN. SHE NEVER MARRIED.
20:00 HE NEVER MARRIED--REMARRIED. AND THEY GOT BACK TOGETHER AFTER
20:05 20 YEARS. NOW.
20:09 AND SO IT'S OKAY TO GET BACK WITH YOUR SPOUSE.
20:15 >> MM-HMM. >> A LONG TIME.
20:19 >> I WAS LISTENING TO A COMEDIAN NOT TOO LONG AGO.
20:22 HE WAS SAYING, THIS IS FUNNY. HE SAID WHEN YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED
20:26 FOR THAT LONG, HE SAID YOU BOTH HAVE TRAINED EACH OTHER SO WELL
20:30 NOBODY ELSE WANTS YOU. THEN YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO EACH
20:35 OTHER. THIS SENSE.
20:41 I FINISH HER SENTENCES. SHE FINISHES MINE.
20:45 NOW I A THOUGHT COMES TO MY MIND AND SHE MENTIONS IT.
20:52 >> THAT HAPPENS OFTEN. WE'RE ON THE SAME TRACK.
20:55 >> I'VE TESTED THIS. I'LL BE THINKING OR VERBALIZING
20:59 SOMETHING AND I'LL WONDER IF SHE'S THINKING THE SAME THING.
21:02 SOMETIMES I DON'T EVEN GET A CHANCE TO ASK HER.
21:05 SHE'LL COME OUT WITH THE SAME THING.
21:10 TO ASK THIS QUESTION, AND THEN HE'LL ASK IT.
21:14 >> THAT HAPPENED TO US EARLIER. >> YOU GUYS ARE MOVNG IN THE
21:16 RIGHT DIRECTION. WHEN I SOMETIMES HESITATE A
21:23 THOUGHT, SHE'LL SAY IT, LIKE A MINUTE LATER.
21:28 >> SURE. HOW LONG MUST ONE DATE BEFORE
21:34 GETTING MARRIED? YEARS TO KNOW SOMEONE WELL.
21:38 THEN AGAIN SOME JUST DATE FOR SIX MONTHS AND MARRY AND IT
21:41 WORKS OUT BY GOD'S GRACE. ONE COULD DATE FOR YEARS AND
21:45 STILL DON'T GET TO KNOW THEIR PARTNER UNTIL THEY MARRY AND
21:49 LIVE TOGETHER, AND THEN YOU SEE SOME UNDESIRABLE BEHAVIOR
21:55 REVEALED AND YOU THINK YOU MADE A MISTAKE.
21:59 YOU BE SURE THAT YOU'RE MARRYING THE ONE THAT GOD HAS CHOSEN FOR
22:03 YOU. FARING THE ONE GOD HAS FOR YOU.
22:07 I THANK YOU FOR COVERING THIS TOPIC, BEING REA AND USING YOUR
22:12 RELATIONSHIP TO DEMONSTRATE GOD'S LOVE AND MERCY.
22:15 IT'S REALLY NEEDED. >> I'M GOING TO HAVE THIS QUOTE
22:23 READ AFTER I SAY THIS. MARRIAGE IS NOT A MISTAKE.
22:26 BUT MARRIAGE WITHOUT GOD'S GUIDANCE IS A TERRIBLE MAKE.
22:31 FIRST, GOD SAYS DON'T MARRY A NON-BELIEVER.
22:38 MY WIFE HAS SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE UNBELIEVER THING WHICH
22:41 IS VERY INSIGHT FORTUNATELYFUL WHICH THE LORD GAVE TO HER AND NOT TO ME.
22:49 >> YOU CAN BE IN THE SAME PLACE BUT STILL DIVIDED.
22:53 LORD. YOU LOVE THE LORD YOUR SPOUSE
22:58 WILL LOVE YOU OR EACH OTHER, BUT IT HAS TO BE MUTUAL.
23:02 YOU HAVE TO LOVE THE LORD IN ORDER TO REALLY HAVE A SOLID
23:06 RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE GOD IS, WHAT, LOVE.
23:10 HE IS LOVE. BUT THIS IS FROM A MINISTRY OF
23:13 HEALING, AND IT'S REALLY SHORT. PAGE 360.
23:17 IT SAYS THROUGH DIFFICULTIES PERPLEXITIES AND
23:24 DISCOURAGEMENTS, THOUGH DIFFICULTIES, PERPLEXITIES MAY
23:29 ARISE, LET NEITHER HUSBAND NOR WIFE HARBOR THE THOUGHT THAT
23:32 THEIR UNION IS A MISTAKE OR A DISAPPOINTMENT.
23:39 POSSIBLE TO BE TO EACH OTHER. CONTINUE THE EARLY ATTENTIONS IN
23:46 EVERY WAY, ENCOURAGE EACH OTHER IN FIGHTING THE BATTLES OF LIFE.
23:51 STUDY TO ADVANCE THE HAPPINESS OF EACH OTHER.
23:56 MEN MARRIAGE, INSTEAD OF BEING THE END OF LOVE WILL BE AS IT IS
24:01 WORTH THE VERY BEGINNING OF LOVE.
24:05 >> AMEN. BECAUSE IF YOU LIVED JUST--IF
24:08 YOUR MARRIAGE IS JUST TO MAKE YOU SATISFIED, THAT'S ONE SIDED.
24:12 >> THAT'S TRUE. HAPPY.
24:18 ME HAPPY AND WE DISCOVERED THAT WE'RE HAPPY.
24:22 WE DON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING STILL, BUT WE STILL
24:25 UNDERSTAND--THIS IS A DANGEROUS PHRASE, I'VE HEARD A LOT OF GUYS
24:30 USE IT. HAPPY WIVES, HAPPY LIFE.
24:34 IF THE WIFE IS HAPPY EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
24:37 THAT'S A DANGEROUS PHRASE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE GIVE UP
24:40 INDIVIDUALITY BECAUSE THE OTHER PERSON BECOMES ANGRY IF THEY
24:44 DON'T GET THEIR WAY. IF YOU SAY UNHEAVY WIFE, UNHAPPY
24:49 LIFE, THAT'S AN UNBALANCED RELATIONSHIP.
24:56 LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION. IT DEPENDS ON HOW OLD YOU ARE.
24:59 >> THAT'S TRUE. >> THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.
25:03 IF YOU'RE 16, YOU CAN DO WHAT WE DID, DATE FOR NINE YEARS.
25:08 ESPECIALLY IN THIS GENERATION BECAUSE TODAY THIS IS VERY
25:12 CORRUPT GENERATION. ISSUES THAT YOU COULD BE SETTING
25:16 YOURSELF UP FOR SO MANY DANGEROUS PLACES THAT YOU
25:19 SHOULDN'T GO. PERSON YOU HAVE MET IS THE
25:23 PERSON YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, GET GODLY COUNSEL.
25:29 LET THE BIBLE BE YOUR GUIDE, AND DON'T PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITY
25:33 THAT'S RESERVED FOR MARRIAGE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
25:37 DON'T LIVE TOGETHER EITHER. >> DON'T LIVE TOGETHER.
25:39 SOMEONE ONCE SAID TO ME, HOW DO I KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO WORK
25:43 IF WE DON'T LIVE TOGETHER? WELL, THE LORD WILL BLESS YOU
25:48 WHEN YOU ARE MARRIED. YOU WON'T BE TUMBLING BECAUSE
25:51 HE'LL POUR BLESSINGS IN TO THAT RELATIONSHIP THAT YOU WON'T FIND
25:56 IF YOU'RE LIVING TOGETHER. IF YOU'RE OLDER, YOU'RE 50, YOUR
26:01 SPOUSE HAS PASSED AWAY. WE KNOW SOMEONE WHO MARRIED
26:04 RECENTLY, HOW LONG DID THEY KNOW EACH OTHER?
26:09 BUT THEY'RE OLDER PEOPLE. >> SURE.
26:14 YEARS BECAUSE ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE DEAD.
26:16 LET'S BE RESPECTFUL ABOUT IT. >> YES.
26:21 IN YOUR 30s, DON'T RUSH. BUT DO GET COUNSELING
26:26 BEFOREHAND. NEEDS COUNSELING BEFOREHAND IS
26:30 YOU'LL FIND OUT WHAT A MARRIAGE IS MADE OF, AND SOMETIMES
26:36 MARRIAGE REQUIRES SOMETHING AND THERE ARE SO MANY COMPONENTS TO
26:41 MARRIAGE THAT UNLESS YOU SEE IN A MARRIAGE COUNSELING HOW YOU
26:45 DEAL WITH CONFLICT RESOLUTION. YOUR ATTITUDE TOWARDS MONEY,
26:49 CHILDREN, PARENTING, THE ROLE OF THE HUSBAND, THE ROLE OF THE
26:52 WIFE, WHAT KIND OF PERSON--ARE YOU CONNECTED, DISCONNECTED,
26:56 OVERLY CONNECTED. DID YOU COME FROM A FAMILY WHERE
26:59 EVERYBODY MADE THE DECISION OR ONE PERSON MADE THE DECISION FOR
27:04 EVERYONE. SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO MESH AND
27:08 THEN YOU CAN DETERMINE IF YOU'RE READY FOR MARRIAGE.
27:11 YOU'RE READY FOR MARRIAGE, THEN COURT WITH MARRIAGE IN MIND.
27:15 OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKED FOR ME.
27:21 FIRST HOUR SAID THAT I WAS DATING HER TOO LONG.
27:23 HE GAVE ME AN ULTIMATUM. HE SAID HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING
27:28 TO DATE HER? ARE YOU GOING TO MARRY HER?
27:32 YES, WHEN? >> WE'RE GETTING A LOT.
27:37 >> THERE IS A LITTLE TEASE. THERE IS ONE WHO HAS BEEN
27:41 MARRIED FO 68 YEARS. >> THIS IS FROM INDIANA.
27:49 THIS IS AFTER TALKING ABOUT EPHESIANS 5, THIS IS FROM
27:53 EPHESIANS 6, NOT RELATING SPECIFICALLY TO MARRIAGE BUT IT
27:57 IS TO FAMILY. IF YOU HAVE MEMBERS IN YOUR
28:00 FAMILY, PARENTS SPECIFICALLY, AND THERE IS ADDICTION, ABUSE OR
28:05 NEGLECT OF THE CHILDREN, DO THE PARENTS.
28:12 PARENTS IN THE LORD. WHEN A PARENT IS LEADING YOU
28:17 DOWN A PATH THAT IS UNGODLY, THE BIBLE DOESN'T REQUIRE
28:21 YOU--ESPECIALLY NOW I'M SPEAKING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE OF AGE.
28:27 SOMETIMES A MINOR CANNOT DISAGREE WITH A PARTICIPANT, AND
28:30 THAT'S A DIFFICULT SITUATION. WHEN A CHILD IS SUBJECT TO AN
28:33 ABUSIVE HOME, THE FATHER IS A DRINKER, DRUG ABUSER OR THERE IS
28:38 ARGUMENT IN THE HOUSES IT IS A DIFFICULT SITUATION TO SAY TING
28:42 A 11-YEAR-OLD OR 12-YEAR-OLD DISOBEY YOUR PARENTS BECAUSE
28:46 THEY MAY END UP WITHOUT A HOME. BUT IF YOU'RE IN AN ABUSIVE
28:50 RELATIONSHIP, PHYSICAL ABUSE. WE LISTEN LIVE IN A DAY AND AGE--SO
28:56 MUCH IS GOING ON IN MY MIND LIKE AN EXPLOSION.
28:59 SOMETIMES CHILDREN WILL SAY JUST TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, MY DAD
29:02 IS ABUSING ME AND IT'S FALSE. >> AS A WAY TO GET OUT.
29:07 AND IF YOU DO THAT, YOU COLD DESTROY YOUR FAMILY.
29:10 SOME FAMILIES WILL NEVER RECOVER FROM A FALSE ACCUSATION.
29:14 THE COURTS WILL STEP IN, SNATCH YOU OUT, AND YOU MAY SAY I'M
29:20 KIDDING. HIS REPUTATION IS DESTROYED.
29:24 BUT IF YOU'RE IN AN ABUSIVE SITUATION, LET SOMEONE KNOW.
29:31 TELL A FAMILY MEMBER, A TEACHER PASTOR, BUT DON'T JUST TELL ALL
29:35 YOUR FRIENDS, BUT GET THE ATTENTION OF SOMEONE WHO CAN
29:38 HELP YOU. DID I ANSWER THAT?
29:41 >> YES, DID YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY.
29:45 >> OKAY, YES SO THIS ONE HERE, AND I THINK YOU HAVE ONE THAT IS
29:48 LONGER THAN THIS ONE BEING MARRIED, I'M JUST GOING TO READ
29:52 THIS. IT'S TAKEN BY ONE OF OUR CSRs
29:56 AT THE CALL CENTER. THEIR NAMES ARE AVADEL AND DAVID
30:01 DAVIDSON. OF MARRIAGE.
30:10 [CLAPPING] THEY NEVER LET THE DAY PASS
30:13 WITHOUT SAYING THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.
30:19 REPEATEDLY TO EACH OTHER. THEY NEVER GO TO SLEEP WITHOUT
30:23 SAYING IT. THEY'RE BOTH 90 YEARS OLD NOW.
30:27 THEY WERE ONLY 21 YEARS OLD WHEN THEY FOUND EACH OTHER.
30:30 WHAT A BLESSING. >> AMEN.
30:37 >> I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, TOO. WE HAVE A NUMBER HERE THAT ARE
30:41 LESS THAN 70, BUT BEFORE WE END THE PROGRAM I THINK IT WOULD BE
30:44 GREAT TO MENTION THAT WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE 54 YEARS, 51,
30:48 WE'LL MENTION YOUR NAME AS WELL. >> ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL.
30:51 >> THAT IS BEAUTIFUL. MY WIFE AND I HAVE TAKEN ON A
30:55 YEAR AGO. TURN THE LIGHT OFF AND WE HUG TO
31:00 FALL ASLEEP, I SAY GOOD NIGHT, HONEY, GOOD NIGHT, SWEETHEART, I
31:06 LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, TOO. YOU KNOW WHAT?
31:10 ANYBODY. AND IT'S THE REALITY OF LIFE.
31:13 >> THAT'S WHAT WE DO AS WELL. I LOVE YOU.
31:16 BEAUTIFUL. THINK.
31:22 TIME FOR THE GIFT OF GLORY DVD. WHEN WILL IT BE READY?
31:26 >> OH, THAT'S FANTASTIC. >> DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR
31:30 THAT? OF AUGUST OR FIRST PAR OF
31:34 SEPTEMBER TO HAVE IT HERE. WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
31:38 >> WE'RE ADDING BONUS FEATURES, THE "GIVE IT HIM GLORY" CONCERT.
31:49 WE'RE GIVING BACK STORIES TO THE SONGS BEING WRITTEN.
31:54 WE'RE ALMOST THERE. GOOD QUESTION.
31:59 ON THREE ANGELS MESSAGES ARE AVAILABLE TONIGHT.
32:02 WELL. COMMENTS AND REQUIRES REGARDING
32:08 MARRIAGE OR SHARING HOW LONG YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED.
32:14 IT'S $25 SUGGESTED DONATION. FILL FREE TO DO THAT.
32:18 618-627-4651. OR YOU CAN ALWAYS E-MAIL US
32:24 LIVE@3ABN.TV. >> THIS IS REALLY NEAT HERE.
32:28 THIS IS FROM BRIAN, AND HE'S IN WASHINGTON, BASICALLY SAYS 15
32:34 YEARS MARRIED, 4 CHILDREN, I'M 40 YEARS OLD, AND I'M LDS MORE
32:40 MONDAY, BUT I I LOVE YOUR CHURCH, AND YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT SUNDAY
32:45 BEING WRONG. >> WHAT?
32:49 CONGRATULATIONS AS WELL. >> WOW.
32:53 >> RAISED IN THE TRUTH OF THE GOD'S WORD AND ADMONITION OF THE
32:59 LORD. YEARS.
33:14 >> MARRIED 78 YEARS. >> ALMOST 80 YEARS--WOW.
33:17 THAT'S AMAZING. >> LET'S SEE HERE, .
33:23 >> LET ME SAYING IS HERE. >> PLEASE DO.
33:27 COVER. BUT SPENDING--DURING CONFLICT,
33:34 WAYS TO KEEP RELATIONSHIPS GOING.
33:39 >> YOU KNOW, WAYS TO KEEP RELATIONSHIPS GROWING.
33:43 SPEND QUANTITY AND QUALITY TIME TOGETHER.
33:48 >> YEAH, WE TRAVEL TOGETHER. >> YOU HEAR ABOUT QUANTITY TIME,
33:53 BUT YOU USED ANOTHER WORD, TOO, QUALITY.
34:00 HERE AT ABN. IF YOU THINK IT'S NOT BUSY, THEN
34:03 COME TO THE WEEK. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE GOING
34:06 ON UNTIL WE TAKE ALL OUR HATS OFF.
34:11 TOGETHER. YEARS AGO.
34:17 WITH ME. I SAID I WOULD RATHER TAKE THE
34:22 FINANCIAL IMPACT THAN RELATIONAL IMPACT.
34:26 WORLD. PAY FOR YOUR WIFE TO COME, WHAT
34:33 IS SHE GOING TO DO? >> I NEED SOMEONE TO KEEP ME
34:37 SANE. ROOM, AT THE CONVENTION WHEN WE
34:44 DID A SERIES ONCE--I FORGOT--I CAN'T REMEMBER THE COUNTRY, BUT
34:49 WE DID IT ON RELATIONSHIP. THE PEOPLE SAID IT WASN'T WHAT
34:54 YOU SAID THAT IMPRESSED US. I LOVED HOW YOU LOOKED AT YOUR
34:59 WIFE. I LOOKED AT YOUR SPOUSE TO SEE
35:05 IF WHAT YOU SAID REALLY MATTERS. >> I WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
35:08 I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
35:11 WAYS OF A RELATIONSHIP GROWING IN A MARRIAGE AND YOUR SPOUSE
35:14 COMING ALONG WITH YOU, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
35:19 COME TO YOU AND SAID PASTOR, I NEED YOU TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
35:24 AND THEN YOU CAN SAY, ANGIE COME OVER HERE.
35:28 HUSBAND IS NOT GOING TO RUN OFF OVER HERE.
35:32 BUT ANGIE, COME OVER HERE. THIS YOUNG LADY HAS SOMETHING
35:36 SHE NEEDS TO SHARE. THAT'S IMPORTANT AND IT HELPS
35:39 THE FIDELITY ASPECT, TOO. >> LET ME INCLUDE THAT.
35:44 THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT ASPECT OF MAINTAINING FIDELITY.
35:49 AND WHEN YOU SURROUND YOURSELF WITH SAFETY POINTS BECAUSE YES,
35:58 WE'VE BEEN ON THE ROAD. PEOPLE WILL COME, THEY'RE
36:02 TRYING, AND GET THEY GET TO CRYING, AND WHAT DO I DO?
36:09 MY MARRIAGE IS--DON'T SPEND QUANTITY PRIVATE TIME WITH
36:14 ANOTHER PERSON OTHER THAN YOUR SPOUSE.
36:21 >> OH, IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
36:29 THEN THE KNICKS THING YOU KNOW THEY MIGHT MISINTERPRET THAT.
36:33 SO THE PRINCIPLES OF FIDELITY THAT WE SURROUND OUR
36:37 RELATIONSHIP, POINT NUMBER TWO. >> DON'T GET INVOLVED IN OTHER
36:41 PEOPLE'S PERSONAL MATTERS ABOUT THEIR SPOUSE.
37:02 >> IF YOU'RE FEELING SORRY FOR THE PERSON AND YOU ATTACH TO
37:05 THEM EMOTIONALLY, YOU'RE BEING DRAWN IN.
37:09 LEADS TO AN AFFAR, AND THEN IT'S WHAT HAPPENED?
37:13 JUST FROM LISTENING AND YOU JUST HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.
37:16 >> I LIKE THE POINT YOU BROUGHT UP ABOUT EMOTION.
37:19 EMOTIONAL, I BELIEVE THERE IS MUCH MORE THAN A SEXUAL OR
37:22 GETTING INVOLVED SEXUALLY IN AN AFFAIR.
37:26 AFFAIRS YOU CAN HAVE WITH SOMEONE.
37:30 EMOTIONALLY YOU CAN GET INVOLVED WITH SOMEONE AND NOT REALIZE IT,
37:33 AND YOU'RE BECOMING UNFAITHFUL TO YOUR SPOUSE EVEN THOUGH YOU
37:36 MAY NOT BE INVOLVED SEXUALLY. >> EMOTIONS STARTED.
37:41 >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> THERE IS A SONG FEELINGS CAN
37:48 OFTEN BE BETRAYED BY EMOTION. THE OTHER ONE WE PUT IN,
37:55 RECOGNIZE FEELINGS WHEN THEY BEGIN TO ARISE.
37:59 COMMUNICATION BRINGS OUT A FEELING OF EMPATHY--I HAD A LADY
38:05 ONCE SAY TO ME, I WISH MY HUSBAND WAS JUST LIKE YOU.
38:10 BUT NOW SHE WAS WAY OLDER LADY. AND THIS ONE LADY AT OUR CHURCH,
38:14 SHE WAS WAY OLDER, SHE ONCE TOLD MY WIFE AT FELLOWSHIP LUNCH.
38:18 >> SHE SAID IF I WAS YOUNGER I WOULD GIVE YOU A RUN FOR YOUR
38:22 HUSBAND. >> YEAH, LATE 70s.
38:31 >> BUT SHE VOICED IT. WHEN YOU MEET PEOPLE THAT YOU
38:34 DON'T KNOW, EVEN LIMIT THE KIND OF TOUCHY-FEELY KIND OF THING.
38:39 PEOPLE MAY SAY, THEY WANT TO HUG YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO THEY
38:43 ARE, THEY WANT TO KISS YOU ON THE CHEEK--I'M A VERY
38:47 AFFECTIONATE PERSON, IN NEW YORK WE--BUT WE'RE LEARNING TO SHAKE
38:53 A HAND AND NOT TO ASSUME. I WAS AT A CAMP MEETING AND A
38:58 LADY SAID, I'M NOT A HANDSHAKER, JUST GIVE ME A HUG.
39:02 SHE WAS AN OLDER WOMAN, BUT LIMIT THOSE AND UNDERSTAND THE
39:06 PLACE WHERE THEY SHOULD ARRIVE AND SHOULD NOT ARISE.
39:11 NUMBER FOUR. ANYONE OTHER THAN YOUR SPOUSE.
39:16 >> THAT'S GOOD. LINES.
39:20 >> SAME LINES. >> BE OPEN WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT
39:26 UNDUE ATTENTION FROM OTHERS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.
39:31 I WAS AWAY, AND THIS IS VERY GOOD.
39:36 EVERYWHERE. I WAS WITH PASTOR FINLEY, AND
39:42 WAITING AT THE AIRPORT FOR SOMEBODY TO PICK ME UP.
39:45 THERE WAS A LADY WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO PICK HER UP.
39:48 SHE SAID, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? WHAT HOTEL ARE YOU STAYING AT?
39:56 SHE SAID IF MY RIDE COMES FIRST, DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A RIDE?
40:01 I SAID NO, I'LL WAIT. TO MY SHOCK TWO DAYS LATER I GET
40:06 A PHONE CALL. BUT IT'S THIS WOMAN CALLING ME.
40:11 I SAID HELLO? WHO IS THIS?
40:13 DO YOU REMEMBER, WE MET IN THE AIRPORT.
40:18 I VISIT THIS AREA SO OFTEN, THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY HOTELS
40:23 LIKE THAT. WELL, CAN WE TALK?
40:27 I'M LEAVING--NO, NO, WE CAN'T. NO.
40:34 YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
40:38 >> IMMEDIATELY. FOR NOW ON YOU'RE GOING
40:42 EVERYWHERE WITH ME. >> HE ALWAYS TELLS ME WHENEVER
40:45 THAT HAPPENS. >> THAT'S CALLED OPENNESS AND
40:49 TRANSPARENCY IN THE MARRIAGE. IF THERE IS ANY OUTSIDE FORCE,
40:55 IT'S BETTER TO BE OPEN. >> AND COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE,
40:59 COMMUNICATE. FROM THIS SURPRISE CALL, YOU
41:05 CALL YOUR WIFE. YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT
41:07 HAPPENED. THE YEARS RECALIBRATED THROUGH
41:14 THE YEARS. THIS IS KIND OF FUNNY.
41:20 MY WIFE HAS A PERSONALITY THAT PEOPLE LOVE TO TALK TO HER.
41:24 AND SHE'S SUCH A LISTENER THAT GUYS LIKE TO TALK TO HER.
41:27 BUT SHE KNOWS HER BOUNDARIES. SHE KNOWS HER PERIMETERS.
41:34 THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR A MARRIAGE TO BE SUCCESSFUL OVER THE YEARS.
41:36 >> OH, YES. >> AND THIS CLOCK HAS GONE SO
41:41 FAST, JILL AND GREG. THIS IS SOMETHING ABOUT--DID
41:47 WE--OH, DID WE TALK ABOUT--WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT HOW TO KEEP
41:51 OUR RELATIONSHIP GROWING. TRAVELING.
41:58 KEEPING OUR RELATIONSHIP QUESTIONS, TOO.
42:02 >> TRAVEL TOGETHER, VACATION TOGETHER.
42:06 DURING THE WEEK FOR EACH OTHER. A DATE NIGHT.
42:10 AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE HAVE THAT HERE, DATE NIGHT.
42:12 IT'S USUALLY THURSDAYS. >> YOU'RE DATING HERE ON THE SET
42:16 HERE ON LIVE TV. >> OUR DATE IS LIVE TV.
42:20 >> PASTOR JOHN AND ANGIE, THEY'RE ON DATE NIGHT.
42:25 >> THIS IS DATE NIGHT. >> OR SUNDAYS.
42:32 >> YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE. >> AND YOU DO THE SAME, DON'T
42:35 YOU. OUR SCHEDULES, LIKE PASTOR JOHN
42:41 MENTIONED, YOU HAVE TO BE BUT IT'S GOOD.
42:47 PUT MY CELL PHONE ASIDE, AND I DON'T ANSWER, I DONT DO E-MAILS
42:51 OR TEXT. JUST "US" TIME.
42:56 AND THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE PUT IT AWAY FROM US.
42:59 IF YOU HEAR IT YOUR PHONE AND YOUR BODY IS SAYING ANSWER IT.
43:06 AND IT SEEMS LIKE ITS GETTING LOUDER, BUT IT'S NOT.
43:09 WE JUST SHUT IT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT EASY AND TOUGH
43:13 ISSUES. TOUGH ISSUES IS SOMETIMES THE
43:18 HARDEST. THIS?
43:25 EVEN AS HARD AS IT IS TO TALK ABOUT, WE DO IT, DON'T WE.
43:29 >> THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND WE BURY IT IN EACH
43:33 OTHER'S HEART. AND NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW WHAT
43:44 WE ARE WE TALKED ABOUT.
43:48 >> AND SOMETIMES YOU PRAY ON HOW TO APPROACH IT.
43:51 YOU DON'T WANT TO PRAY--WE'VE LEARNED THAT OKAY, WE ENTER THIS
43:56 TOPIC, WE'RE GOING TO EITHER LOSE TOGETHER OR WIN TOGETHER IF
44:00 WE HANDLE IT CORRECTLY IF WE TALK ABOUT TOUGH ISSUES.
44:05 WE DON'T ALLOW OTHERS TO STEAL OUR TIME.
44:10 BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL INSIST ON YOUR TIME.
44:13 BUT IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, AS A PASTOR--
44:17 >> WE DON'T HAVE OFFICE HOURS. YOU CAN CALL ME ANY TIME THERE
44:20 IS AN EMERGENCY. BUT THERE IS A LADY THAT WE USED USED TO
44:26 CALL AT 5:30 IN THE MORNING TO SHARE BIBLE TEXT WITH ME.
44:30 I WOULD SAY IS THIS AN EMERGENCY?
44:35 MAYBE LATER BECAUSE AT THAT TIME OF THE MORNING I'M JUST TURNING
44:41 OVER. AS A PASTOR, AN I'VE HEARD
44:46 PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS. YOU HEARD OF THE PASTOR'S KIDS.
44:51 THAT'S THE KEY ISSUE. NOW WE DON'T HAVE CHILDREN.
44:54 WHAT DO WE HAVE? >> SHEEP.
44:59 >> THIS GOES ALONG WITH THE TIME ASPECT, AND I KNOW THE ANSWER TO
45:02 THIS, BUT PASTOR JOHN LOMACANG, DO YOU PUT GOD OR YOUR WIFE
45:11 FIRST IN YOUR LIFE. I KNOW THE ANSWER.
45:15 >> GOD--THE MINISTER ASKED ME THIS MANY YEARS AGO.
45:21 HE SAID, SIT DOWN, YOUNG MAN, BEFORE I GOT MY FIRST CHURCH IN
45:25 SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. HE WOULD SAY YOUNG MAN, TELL ME
45:28 THE ORDER OF YOUR LIFE IN THESE FIVE CATEGORIES.
45:32 I SAID GOD FIRST, MY WIFE NEXT AND THE CHURCH AFTER THAT.
45:35 >> YES. BECAUSE I CAME TO THE CHURCH
45:40 WITH MY WIFE. I'M LEAVING THE CHURCH WITH MY
45:43 WIFE. MORNING IS COMING AND SHE'S IN
45:50 THE HOSPITAL? I'LL BE IN THE HOSPITAL BY HER
45:54 SIDE. WIFE HAS BEEN THERE OH WITH ME.
46:00 I WANT TO BE THERE FOR HER. >> SO MEANS TIMES YOU HEAR FROM
46:11 PASTORS. >> THE CHURCH BEFORE THE WIFE.
46:14 >> AND THE CHILDREN? >> THE CHILDREN DOWN THERE.
46:17 >> THE CHILDREN WILL SAY HE SPENDS SO MUCH TIME FOR THE
46:19 CHURCH BUT NOT WITH US. >> ANY MORE?
46:28 >> WE SHOULD HAVE A PRAYER BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT.
46:30 WE HAVE 11 MINUTES LEFT. >> WE'LL JUST DO RAPID FIRE.
46:36 ROBERT AND DAISY, MARRIED 72 YEARS.
46:40 MARLEAU AND SHIRLEY MARRIED 54 YEARS LAST MONTH.
46:44 THEY'RE FROM MOSES LAKE, WASHINGTON.
46:46 AND. >> HONEY, WE'RE WAY BEHIND.
46:50 >> RICHARD AND DEBBY MARRIED 46 YEARS, AND SHE SAID, I ALWAYS
46:55 PRAYED THAT I WOULD FIND A HUSBAND WHO WAS RELIGIOUS.
46:58 MY HUSBAND WAS THE ANSWER TO MY PRAYERS.
47:05 TODAY, AND TODAY IS HIS 90TH BIRTHDAY.
47:11 HAPPY BIRTHDAY, FROM 3ABN AND HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.
47:17 NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE TO GIVE A GIFT TO THE PERSON MARRIED THE
47:21 LONGEST. >> HIRE IS A COUPLE MARRIED 51
47:37 YEARS. FROM EUROPE, 36 YEARS THEY'VE
47:46 BEEN MARRIED AND GOD HAS BLESSED US.
47:51 EUROPE. THEY'RE HERE IN THE STATES.
47:55 46 YEARS. CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL.
47:58 PRAY THE LORD. WHAT A TESTAMENT.
48:00 >> I HAVE A QUESTION HERE. IT SAYS YOU SAID NOT TO TELL
48:04 OTHERS ABOUT TROUBLE IN A MARRIAGE.
48:08 UNFAITHFUL? FAMILY, FRIENDS OR A PASTOR?
48:13 >> START WITH YOUR PASTOR AND A MARRIAGE COUNSELOR.
48:19 IN, FAMILY--FAMILY IS ALWAYS BIASED.
48:27 BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU RESOLVE THE ISSUE, YOU KNOW WHAT
48:30 HAPPENS? GIVE, YOU PUT ON THE SHOULDER OF
48:35 INDIVIDUALS SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL OR PASTOR OR SOMEONE WHO
48:39 CAN LEAD YOU BACK TO THAT PLACE WHERE YOU CAN FIND
48:43 RECONCILIATION, THEN YOUR FAMILY MEMBER WOULDN'T BE FOREVER
48:47 SAYING, THAT YOU DAMAGED MY SON OR YOU DAMAGED MY SISTER.
48:53 THEY WOULD NOT REMEMBER THAT ON YOU FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
48:57 THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE PILLOW SITUATION.
49:01 THINGS THEY CAN'T RESOLVE. NOW IF YOU ARE IN AN ABUSIVE
49:06 RELATIONSHIP. THAT'S DIFFERENT ALL TOGETHER.
49:10 PHYSICAL ABUSE, CALL MOM, DAD, BROTHER, SISTER, COUSIN, IF IT
49:15 IS ABUSIVE, BUT DON'T MAKE THE FIRST PERIMETER FAMILY.
49:20 GO TO SOMEBODY THAT IS PROFESSIONAL, SOMEONE WHO CAN
49:23 HELP YOU. THAT WAS AN AMAZING--THOSE ARE
49:26 THINGS THAT AS A COACH I'VE SEEN PEOPLE DO THAT.
49:32 GOD'S GRACE IF THEY DECIDE TO WORK THROUGH IT, THEY GET IT ALL
49:36 FIXED, BUT FOREVER YOU'LL GO TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE, YEAH,
49:39 CHEATER'S COMING OVER TODAY. AND YOU'LL SAY, THAT WAS FIVE
49:43 YEAR AGO. WE'RE TOGETHER.
49:46 YEAH, BUT I REMEMBER WHAT YOU DID TO MY DAUGHTER.
49:49 ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE CANNOT FORGET.
49:53 THAT YOU PLANTED THAT WILL ROOT AND GROW AND THEY'LL NEVER NOT
49:57 HAVE A PLANT. IS NOT GOING TO BE SWEET.
50:01 IT WILL BE SOUR. >> START WITH YOUR PASTOR OR
50:05 MARRIAGE COUNSELOR. THIS ONE, THEY WANT TO BE
50:08 ANONYMOUS, AND LOOKING FOR GOD'S WILL AND WISDOM.
50:11 I'LL READ SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS HERE OR SENTENCES.
50:14 I'M 49 AND HAVE DESIRE TO BE MARRIED AND TO HAVE A FAMILY
50:17 SINCE I WAS AT LEAST 16 YEARS OLD.
50:24 TO GOD AS I CAN, MAYBE IT HAS SCARED ALL THE MEN OFF.
50:29 I CAME CLOSE TO MARRIAGE ONCE, BUT AFTER PRAYER, AS SWEET AS MY
50:35 FRIEND WAS AND STILL IS, HE WAS NOT THE ONE FOR ME.
50:38 WHAT SHOULD I DO? WITHOUT GOING ON DATING
50:49 WEBSITES, WHICH I HAVE, BUT I'M IN A RUSH BUT I WANT TO BE IN
50:56 GOD'S WILL. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR
50:58 ANSWER. DO?
51:05 >> AND OBVIOUSLY IT SEEMS LIKE SHE'S A FEMALE.
51:09 >> YES, IT DOES. >> THAT'S A SITUATION THAT I
51:14 MARRIAGE COUNSELOR, SOMEBODY WHO CAN DEAL WITH THE ISSUES.
51:18 TO BE SINGLE FOR 49 YEARS, THEY SAID THEY MADE A STATEMENT THAT
51:23 I WON'T EVEN QUALIFY AND SAY MAYBE THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE
51:26 SOMETIMES PEOPLE CAN BE OVERLY ANALYZING THEMSELVES.
51:30 AND I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE--ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, THE
51:34 PERIMETER, SOME PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SO EXACT IN WHAT THEY WANT AND
51:39 EVERYBODY WHO COMES THER WAY IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
51:42 ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, SOME PEOPLE WILL TAKE ANYTHING THAT
51:45 COMES THEIR WAY AND THEN DISCOVER THAT'S NOT WHAT I WANT.
51:48 YOU CAN BE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN THAT, BUT I THINK THE PHRASE SHE
51:51 MENTIONED, SOMETIMES--AND SHE DID NOT SAY THIS, BU SOMETIMES
51:56 YOU CAN BE SO HEAVENLY MINDED THAT NOT EARTHY GOOD.
52:00 BE THE PERSON YOU WANT TO ATTRACT.
52:04 GODLY. YOUR PRINCIPLES.
52:09 >> BY THE WAY YOU DRESS OR ANY OF THAT.
52:15 GO HALF DRESSED, NO, DON'T DO THAT.
52:20 IN THAT SITUATION? >> IN THAT SITUATION?
52:22 I WOULD PRAY. A LOT.
52:28 COUNSEL FROM--I WOULD READ A LOT AND PRAY A LOT FOR THE LORD TO
52:35 GUIDE ME. HE WON'T DIAPPOINT YOU.
52:40 HE WILL GUIDE YOU. HE WANTS YOU TO BE HAPPY.
52:42 HE WANTS YOU TO HAVE AN ABUNDANT LIFE AND HE WILL BLESS YOU AND
52:45 GUIDE YOU, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO TO HIM.
52:50 TALKING ABOUT PRAYER? ANGIE, DO YOU HAVE A SHORT
52:53 PRAYER AND PASTOR WITH A MINUTE OR SO LEFT SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING.
52:58 >> A SHORT PRAYER RIGHT NOW. OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE COME TO
53:01 YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TOPIC OF
53:06 MARRIAGE AND RELATIONSHIPS. WE PRAY FOR THE PEOPLE OUT WHO
53:10 ARE SEEKING FOR THE RIGHT MATE. WE PRAY, LORD, THAT YOU'LL GUIDE
53:14 THEM AND LEAD THEM IN EVERY ASPECT OF THEIR LIVES SO THAT
53:19 THEY CAN FIND SOMEONE. WE KNOW THAT YOU WANT US TO BE
53:24 HAPPY. ARE CELEBRATING ANNIVERSARY.
53:29 BLESS THEM, LORD. THANK THEM FOR EACH AND EVERY
53:32 ONE. THANK YOU.
53:39 TOWARDS US. IN JEEZ' NAME.
53:44 AMEN. BEAUTIFUL.
53:50 YOUR SPOUSE. >> I HAVE LEARNED MY WIFE LOVE
53:57 HUGS. HUGS.
54:04 LEARN AFFIRMATION. I APPRECIATE THAT DINNER.
54:10 OUT. I'M SO GLAD YOU CAME HOME EARLY
54:14 TODAY. HOME EARLY.
54:25 COMPLIMENT YOUR WIFE. SOME PEOPLE DON'T AFFIRM EACH
54:28 OTHER. DISTRACTED IN THE WRONG
54:32 DIRECTION. WITH EACH OTHER AND MY HUSBAND
54:37 IS SUCH A GOOD HUSBAND TO ME. HE LOVES ME.
54:42 HE DOES THINGS FOR ME. I'M COMING OUT--I'M COMING
54:46 FROM THE GROCERY STORE WITH BAGS OF GROCERIES, HE'LL RUN TO THE
54:50 DOOR AND HELP WITH THE GROCERIES GROCERIES.
55:01 WATCHING--WHAT CAN I DO? >> MERCY, THANK YOU, LORD.
55:05 MY HUSBAND PICKED UP THE WHOLE BAG BECAUSE WE HAVE A--
55:13 >> MY WATCH FELL BETWEEN THE BED.
55:21 COULDN'T FIND IT. HE GOT A FLASHLIGHT AND LOOKED
55:25 THROUGH EVERYTHING. HE LIFTED THE BED AND SAID LOOK
55:30 UNDER THERE. AND THERE WAS MY WATCH.
55:35 >> AFFIRMATION. DON'T GO CRAZY AND SPEND
55:39 YOURSELF IN OBLIVION. ACTS OF SERVICE.
55:43 AND FINALLY SOMETHING THAT FOCUS SPOUSES NEED PHYSICAL TOUCH.
55:55 THOSE ARE THE FIVE LANGUAGES. LEARN YOUR SPOUSE'S LOVE
56:03 GOING. >> ABSOLUTELY.
56:13 >> OUR TWO HOURS HAVE GONE BY QUICKLY.
56:18 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH PASTOR JOHN AND ANGIE.
56:22 HEART, YOUR EXPERIENCE BUT FROM THE WORD OF GOD.
56:24 TO ME YOU BOTH ARE SEASONED. IF YOU CAN SAY THAT IN GOD'S
56:29 WORK, I MEAN THAT WITH THE MOST RESPECT, YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE
56:33 TRENCHES. WITH PEOPLE AND THE FRUIT OF
56:37 YOUR MARRIAGE AND THAT EXPERIENCE HAS COME FORTH
56:39 TONIGHT. AND WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT IT'S
56:47 BEEN AN ENCOURAGEMENT FOR YOU. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR CALLING
56:50 IN AND E-MAIL LING IN WITH YOUR NEEDS.
56:55 DEPARTMENT WILL PRAY OVER YOU AND YOUR MARRIAGE IT'S.
56:57 WE HAVE THESE TWO COUPLES HERE WHO WILL BE GETTING A SPECIAL
57:02 GIFT. YEARS AND RAY AND MARGIE, THEIR
57:07 ANNIVERSARY TODAY. THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE.
57:10 KNOW THAT WE LOVE YOU AND PRAY FOR YOU.


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