¤ >> HELLO AND WELCOME TO OUR
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SPECIAL THURSDAY NIGHT
LIVE COMING TO YOU LIVE FROM
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ILLINOIS, AN WE'RE SO GRATEFUL
THAT YOU JOIN US EACH AN EVERY
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DAY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE
THURSDAY NIGHT PROGRAMS.
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WE APPRECIATE YOUR PRAYERS
AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF THE
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WE'RE DEFINITELY A TEAM.
YOU AND US AND THE LORD JESUS
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CHRIST, AND YOU CAN'T
GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT.
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IT'S BEEN A GOOD
WEEK HERE AT 3ABN.
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BELIEVE--WE WERE AT
ORLANDO, FLORIDA, AT ASI.
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AND HERE WE'RE IN THE BEAUTIFUL
CORN FOLDS OF SOUTHERN ILLINOIS.
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I WISH I HAD LIVE DRONE SHOTS,
THE DRONES ARE THOSE LITTLE
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HELICOPTERS CONTROLLED BY REMOTE
CONTROL, WE COME STRAIGHT TO
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CHARLIE GOOD ROAD, AND THERE
IS A BEAUTIFUL CORN FIELD FILLED
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WITH CORN THAT HAS GROWN.
WE HAD BEAUTIFUL RAIN HERE.
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TONIGHT WE HAVE A SPECIAL
PROGRAM, IT'S TITLED "TO HAVE
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AND TO HOLD ON."
WE'RE HERE WITH FAMILY.
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YOUR GUESTS. WELL.
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THEM BECAUSE THERE
IS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT.
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CHRIST. >> I LOVE ASI.
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AND IT MAKES ME EXCITED TO DO
MORE FOR THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.
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WE'RE EXCITED FOR
TONIGHT'S PROGRAM.
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BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS.
THEIR MARRIAGE IS 35 YEARS
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STRONG AND GROWING. AND GREG
AND I ARE TO     ARE 0 YEARS
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BEHIND THAT. WE
COULD BE SAYING THAT IT'S A
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GIFT FROM GOD, BUT THERE ARE
KEYS AND PRINCIPLES MAKING THAT
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MARRIAGE. THEY'RE
A COACH, AND THEY DO
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RELATIONSHIP COUNSELING, AND
YOU KNOW THAT HE'S DIRECTOR OF
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WORLD.
EVANGELISM, AND WE KNOW ANGIE,
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HIS HOST FOR CROSSROADS PROGRAM
ON CBN RADIO, AND YOU DO A LOT
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OF RADIO EDITING, TOO.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THS PROGRAM.
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IT IS A LIVE PROGRAM SO WE WANT
YOU TO CALL IN RIGT NOW WITH
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QUESTIONS
REGARDING RELATIONSHIPS.
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PEOPLE WHO ARE
MARRIED THOUGH, IS IT?
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>> NO, ACTUALLY IT'S
NOT. THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
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HAVE AND HOLD ON, IT'S
NOT A RELATIONSHIP, IT'S NOT A
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WITH THIS. I'VE
BEEN THROUGH SOMETHING
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HORRIBLE, I'VE BEEN THROUGH
A DIVORCE, SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
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CLICK, OFF. >>
PASTOR, TELL US WHY THIS IS
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FOR EVERYONE. RIDE A
BICYCLE, AND IF YOU NEVER
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HAVE, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE SOMEONE
WHO HAS BEEN RIDING A BICYCLE
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FOR 35 YEARS TO TRAIN
YOU. WHAT DO YOU THINK.
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>> MAYBE THEY HAVE PARENTS WHO
GONE THROUGH DIVORCE OR MAYBE
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THEY LOST A HUSBAND OR
WIFE. THIS PROGRAM IS FOR YOU.
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THIS IS FOR EVERYONE, ISN'T IT.
>> TRUE, WE'RE GOING TO SHARE
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PRE-MARRIAGE EVENTS.
BECAUSE WE DATED FOR NINE YEARS.
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IF YOU ADD THAT
ON, ON TO THE 35.
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>> THAT'S 44. MAYBE
YOU JUST DATED SOMEONE.
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OR YOU'RE COURTING SOMEONE.
SHE HAD PRINCIPLES WHEN SHE MET
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ME. PASTOR AND THEY HEAR YOUR
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SERMONS, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE
A DIFFERENT ASPECT THAT PEOPLE
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MAYBE DON'T HEAR YOUR STORY, AND
ALSO REGARDING THE RELATIONSHIP
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YOU MENTIONED NINE YEARS.
WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO MORE
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DETAIL. >> THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
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YOU KNOW, WE LIVE IN A BUBBLE.
BUT WE DON'T WANT THE PROGRAM TO
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BE JUST ABOUT US. YOU
COULD POUR CHOCOLATE ON THE
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CAKE AND SAY THEY
JUST TALK ABOUT THEMSELVES.
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WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT PRINCIPLES
THAT ARE NOT JUST ABOUT US, HOW
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OUR MARRIAGE WORKS, AND HOW
WE HAVE GROWN AND HOW WE HAVE
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NAVIGATED THROUGH THE 35
YEARS. WE ALSO WANT TO NAVIGATE
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PRINCIPLES FOR ANYONE WATCHING
THE PROGRAM, WHETHER YOU'RE
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PREPARING FOR MARRIAGE OR THIS
IS YOUR SECOND MARRIAGE OR THIRD
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MARRIAGE OR YOUR MARRIAGE IS
ON THE ROCKS OR RECOVERY, WE'RE
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GOING TO TALK ABOUT
THAT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
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UNCOMFORTABLE THINGS,
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT SCRIPT
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ACTUAL PRINCIPLES. STAY
TUNE BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE
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DONE WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST
SUGARCOAT THE PROGRAM, WE'RE
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GOING TO SAY, CAN
THE MARRIAGE WORK.
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HOLD. WHEN THE
TRUMPET SOUNDS WE WANT
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TO RISE TOGETHER. >>
WHETHER WE RAISE TOGETHER OR
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IF WE'RE SIDE BY SIDE. WE
JUST HOLD ONTO THEY GET BACK
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AND WE RISE TOGETHER. IN A
LIGHT-HEARTED WAY WE FIRMLY
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BELIEVE THAT BECAUSE GOD CREATES
MARRIAGE, HE HAS A SPECIAL
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PURPOSE FOR IT.
ALLOWING OUR INDIVIDUALITY AS
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WELL AS OUR COLLECTIVE     
 COLLECTIVENESS TO FILE EACH
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OTHER DOWN. MY WIFE MAY NOT BE
IN THE PUBLIC'S EYE VERY MUCH,
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BUT WE HAVE A STATEMENT THAT IF
I DIDN'T HAVE ANGIE, SO MUCH OF
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WHO I AM WOULD NOT BE REAL
BECAUSE THE LORD KNEW EXACTLY
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WHO YOU NEEDED IN MY
LIFE. A WOMAN WHO HAS HER OWN
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BACKBONE. BE WHO I AM TODAY.
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WE HELP EACH OTHER. WE
LIVE FOR THE LORD, BUT WE
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MAKE EACH OTHER HAPPY,
TOO. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY.
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BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
>> AND ONE EQUATION, TO MAKE
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THIS A MATHEMATICAL EQUATION FOR
THE GUYS WATCHING THIS PROGRAM.
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IF YOU THINK THIS MARRIAGE IS
50/50, YOU DON'T KNOW MATH, AND
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YOU DON'T KNOW WOMEN.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW
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THOSE THINGS WORK. WE
HAD A CUTE LITTLE OUTLINE BUT
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WE'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY
FOLLOW IT IN SEQUENTIAL ORDER,
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BUT WITH YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE
SECOND HOUR WE'LL COVER IT AS
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MUCH AS WE CAN. >> AMEN.
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RIGHT NOW. CALL 618-627-4651.
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OR YOU CAN E-MAIL
US LIVE @3ABN @3ABN.TV.
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YOU ARE DATING SOMEONE
AND CONSIDERING MARRIAGE, OR
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POSSIBLY YOUR MARRIAGE IS
15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND YOU
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STILL HAVE A QUESTION, OR MAYBE
YOUR MARRIAGE IS ON THE ROCKS,
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OR YOU RECENTLY LOT A SPOUSE.
ANY OF THOSE CASES, THIS PROGRAM
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IS FOR YOU. SO
E-MAIL IN, CALL IN YOUR
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QUESTIONS.
ANGIE IN THE HOT SEAT.
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>> WE MAY NEED TO
GET SOME COMMENTS.
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WE MIGHT GET 75
YEARS, THAT MIGHT BE NEAT.
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>> WE'LL DO A SHOUT OUT.
>> AND MAYBE SOME COMMENTS OF
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WHAT MADE YOUR MARRIAGE
STRONG. THIS WILL BE EXCITING.
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MARRIED, AND THIS IS TOTALLY OFF
THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THE PERSON
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WHO SPEND THE LONGEST MARRIED
COUPLE, WE'LL SEND SOMETHING.
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>> WE WILL, YES. >>
WELL, DON'T TALK ABOUT IT
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RIGHT NOW. BUT
FIRST, THE PEOPLE WHO WERE
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MARRIED THE LONGEST. SOME
PEOPLE MAY SAY, WE'VE BEEN
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MARRIED 35 YEARS AND
THEN YOU'RE JUST A BABY.
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>> WE WANT TO GET FORWARD.
WE HAVE SOME MUSIC WE WANT TO
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GET TO IN JUST A MINUTE.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A SCRIPTURE.
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I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE WONDERING
HOW DANNY SHELTON IS DOING.
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HE HAD OPEN HEART      
OPEN-HEART SURGERY THREE WEEKS
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AGO TODAY. HE'S ON ASI.
HE HAS A SHORT LITTLE--TWO OR
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THREE MINUTES--A LITTLE SHOUT
OUT ABOUT A WEEK AGO, AND WE HAD
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MANY COMMENTS. AND
THEY SAID BOY, MR. DANNY, HE
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LOOKS SO GOOD.
HE'S A STRONG MAN.
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GOD HAS DONE A LOT FOR HIM IN
THE HEALING PROCESS, BUT HE IS
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VERY MUCH FIT. HE'S IN SHAPE.
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BASKETBALL, AND THAT HAS HELPED
IN THE HEALING RECOVERY PROCESS.
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WE SAW HIM ON TUESDAY,
AND HE'S DOING VERY WELL.
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DOING EVERYTHING THAT THE
DOCTORS ARE ASKING HIM TO DO.
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BUT HE IS JUS AMAZING EVERYONE.
>> AND HIS WIFE IS TAKING SUCH
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GOOD CARE OF HIM. SO
WE'RE SO THANKFUL FOR HIM.
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>> BUT HE APPRECIATES ALL YOUR
HIM AS HE CONTINUES TO RECOVER.
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THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PRAYERS. >> AMEN.
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>> YES, EPHESIANS 5, IF
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MARRIAGE AND
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RELATIONSHIPS, YOU
KNOW WE HAVE TO GO HERE.
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EPHESIANS 5:22-27.
WIVES, SUBMIT TO YOUR HOUSE.
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THE HUSBAND IS HEAD OF THE WIFE
AS CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE
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CHURCH. IS
SUBJECT TO CHRIST, LET THE
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WIVES BE TO THEIR OWN
HUSBANDS IN EVERYTHING.
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CHRISTS WILL LOVES THE CHURCH
AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR HER THAT HE
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MIGHT SANCTIFY AND CLEANSE
HER AND PRESENT TO HIMSELF A
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GLORIOUS CHURCH. ANY
SUCH THING BUT THAT SHE
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SHOULD BE HOLY
AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.
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TRYING TO JUMP AHEAD, BUT WHEN I
READ THAT, PASOR JOHN, WHY DOES
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THE BIBLE TELL THE WIFE TO
SUBMIT TO THE HUSBAND BUT THE
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HUSBAND TO LOVE THE WIFE.
>> WELL, BECAUSE THE BIBLE, THE
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MARRIAGE IS A PICTURE OF GOD'S
RELATIONSHIP TO HIS CHURCH.
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SO THE CHURCH
SHOULD SUBMIT TO CHRIST.
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GOD DOESN'T
SUBMIT TO THE CHURCH.
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THE CHURCH SUBMITS TO GOD.
AND IN THE PRIESTLY BALANCE WHEN
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THE HUSBAND IS THE PRIEST OF THE
HOME, THE WIFE CAN FIND COMFORT
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IN SUBMITTING TO THE HUSBAND.
BUT IF THE HUSBAND DOESN'T GIVE
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HIS PRIESTLY ROLE THE
WIFE IS NOT GOING TO SUBMIT.
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THE CHURCH BENEFITS BY
SUBMITTING TO HIM, AND THEY
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NEVER LOSE OUT FROM HIS
LOVE. IT'S A PICTURE--AND WE'VE
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LEARNED THROUGH THE YEARS IF YOU
WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING ABOUT THE
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RELATIONSHIP THAT GOD HAS
WITH HIS CHURCH, LOOK AT THE
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MARRIAGE. >> POWERFUL.
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I KNOW WE NEED TO--AGAIN, THIS
IS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS TONIGHT,
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SPECIFICALLY TH
MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP.
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HAVE AND TO HOLD
ON." WE HAVE A GREAT SONG.
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WE HAVE THE MUSIC PROJECT WHICH
WE'LL TOUCH ON BEFORE WE GET
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INTO THE PROGRAM.
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO
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THIS AND WE DON'T WANT TO
FORGET SOME IMPORTANT DETAILS.
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TO GIVE GLORY ON THE THREE
ANGELS MESSAGE, WHICH WAS JUST
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ABSOLUTELY POWERFUL.
FANTASTIC PRAISE REPORTS OF HOW
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PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE CHANGED, BUT
WE HAVE THE CD AND DVD, AND IT
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IS ABOUT TO BE RELEASED, AND WE
HAVE A NICE LITTLE BOOKLET THAT
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THEY HAVE TO GO WITH
THIS. >> YOU SEE THE GRAPHIC.
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ALL THESE FOLKS ARE
FOCUSED ON THE 3 ANGELS MESSAGE.
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REVELATION 14, THERE IS ALSO
A BONUS CD WITH SOME EXTRA SONGS
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AS WELL. THEN THE
DVD IS JUST ABOUT READY
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TO BE RELEASED. WE'RE
EXCITED ABOUT THAT, WE HAD
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A PRE-RELEASE AT ASI.
BUT THE FOUL DVD WITH THE
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CONCERT--THE FULL DVD WITH
THE CONCERT IS COMING SOON.
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AND THE THREE ANGELS MESSAGE IN
SUMMARY WITH A WONDERFUL SHARING
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BOOK, PASTOR JOHN. >>
I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE
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IT IS A THE THREE ANGLES IS THE
ANGEL OF GOD'S MESSAGE, AND IT
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IS A MESSAGE WE
SHOULD BE GETTING BACK TO.
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3 ANGELS MESSAGE. 3
ANGELS BROADCASTING.
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I DECIDED TO MAKE IT 46 PAGES,
NOT LONG, FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE
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NOT HEARD ABOUT
THE MESSAGE BEFORE.
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BUT IT DEALS WITH ALL THREE
MESSAGES SUCCINCTLY, CLEARLY AND
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MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IT
BRINGS OUT THE REDEEMING LOVE
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AND GRACE OF GOD.
THE EVERY LASTING GOSPEL.
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AND THE THREE ANGELS MESSAGE
IS THE PERIOD OF THE 6,000 YEAR
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MESSAGE. WE READ
THE BACK OF THE BOOK,
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NOW WE'RE SHARING
THE BACK OF THE BOOK.
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YOU CAN GET THE CD, THE
DVD, AND THE BOOK FOR $25.
00:17:21.14\00:17:25.64
>> THAT'S
RIGHT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:17:25.64\00:17:28.81
OR ORDER QUANTITIES OF THE CD
OR DVD OR THE BOOK BY THE CASE.
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CALL THE CALL CENTER
RIGHT NOW. (618)627-4651.
00:17:33.82\00:17:44.46
THE MAIL FOR YOU AND YOU
CAN ALWAYS E-MAIL US FOR THAT AS
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WELL. YOUR
QUESTIONS OR WE WANT TO
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KNOW WHO THE LONGEST-MARRIED
COUPLE IS, SO SEND THAT IN, TOO.
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>> ALL RIGHT,
LET'S GO TO SOME MUSIC.
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SINGING "I AM YOURS." ¤
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¤ ¤
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¤ ¤
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>> AIM. OUR
SPECIAL GUESTS TONIGHT ARE
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PASTOR JOHN AND ANGELA LOMAKING.
AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR STORY.
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HOW DID YOU ALL MEET? >>
WELL, WE'RE GOING TO BOUNCE
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BACK AND FORTH ON THIS. WE
BOTH CAME FROM UNIQUE HOMES.
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I WAS RAISED IN A HOME WHERE
MY MOM AND DAD WERE NOT PRESENT.
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I WAS ABANDONED AS THREE MONTHS
OLD BY MY BIOLOGICAL PARENTS.
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BUT THE LORD WAS GRACIOUS ENOUGH
TO GIVE US TO A FAMILY WHO
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WANTED TO
RAISES, ME AND MY SISTER.
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HOME. STRONG DISCIPLINE.
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BUT I WAS RAISED IN A HOME WHERE
I SAW MARRIAGE, WHERE I SAW THE
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LOVE OF MR. HANES FOR
HIS WIFE CARMEN HANES.
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BUT SHE DIED WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS
OLD, JUST BEFORE I TURNED 13.
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SO THAT ANCHOR WAS GONE.
AND MAMA WAS THE CONNECTION TO
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CHURCH. HIS
LIFE, THEY WERE MARRIED
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30-SOMETHING YEARS
WHEN SHE PASSED AWAY.
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LIVED IN MEDIOCRITY
AND LOSING MY ANCHOR.
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THEN I MET ANGIE. >> HOW
OLD ARE YOU WERE WHEN YOU
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MET ANGIE. >> 16.
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>> WE BOTH WERE. >>
WELL, I WAS RAISED IN A
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CHRISTIAN HOME
ADVENTIST CHRISTIAN HOME.
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WHEN I MEAT MY
DARLING, JOHN. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> YES, MY DARLING.
WHEN I MET HIM, HE WAS NOT IN
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THE CHURCH. HE WAS
OUT OF THE CHURCH, BUT I
00:25:00.23\00:25:05.20
MET HIM IN CHURCH. >> I
WAS IN THE BUILDING, BUT I
00:25:05.20\00:25:08.14
WAS NOT IN CHRIST.
>> DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
00:25:08.14\00:25:10.77
RIGHT. INTRODUCED
ME TO HIM, AND I'LL
00:25:10.77\00:25:16.38
JUMP AHEAD. FOR
BIBLE STUDY, FRIDAY NIGHT
00:25:16.38\00:25:22.18
WORSHIP. YOUNG MAN
TO MY HOUSE WAS IF HE
00:25:22.18\00:25:28.89
WAS COMING FOR WORSHIP.
I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DATE.
00:25:28.89\00:25:31.93
>> SO YOUR PARENTS
WERE STRICT. >> VERY STRICT.
00:25:31.93\00:25:38.70
THREE. AND AFTER
HE PASSED AWAY, I WAS
00:25:38.70\00:25:43.07
BORN IN ENGLAND,
AND HE DIED IN ENGLAND.
00:25:43.07\00:25:49.24
BROOKLYN NEW
YORK. ADVENTIST CHURCH.
00:25:49.24\00:25:57.05
THE SAME CHURCH HE WENT
TO. WE MET AND HIT IT OFF RIGHT
00:25:57.05\00:26:01.16
AWAY. EVERY WEEK.
00:26:01.16\00:26:05.59
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
DID YOU GO FOR THE BIBLE
00:26:05.59\00:26:10.23
STUDY OR BECAUSE SHE WAS CUTE?
>> WELL, THE REASON I--THIS IS A
00:26:10.23\00:26:16.67
BIG PART I WANT TO ADD HERE.
THE REASON WHY SHE HAD TO MAKE
00:26:16.67\00:26:21.04
IT SPIRITUAL REASONS WAS BECAUSE
WHILE HER MOM WAS A SWEET LADY,
00:26:21.04\00:26:26.11
SHE HAD FIVE BROTHERS.
FIVE JAMAICAN BROTHERS.
00:26:26.11\00:26:32.82
>> YOU BETTER BEHAVE YOURSELF.
>> SHE WAS THE YOUNGEST GIRL,
00:26:32.82\00:26:35.72
THE YOUNGEST CHILD, THE YOUNGEST
SIBLING, THE LAST OF THE THREE
00:26:35.72\00:26:39.73
GIRLS. AND SO SHE HAD A LOT OF
00:26:39.73\00:26:42.46
PROTECTION. >> SO
AT THAT AGE NO GUY IS
00:26:42.46\00:26:47.24
COMING OVER TO DATE MY SISTER.
BUT SHE CHOSE THE RIGHT WAY.
00:26:47.24\00:26:52.27
BECAUSE WHEN WE MET I WASN'T
IN THE CHURCH, I WASN'T IN THE
00:26:52.27\00:26:56.21
LORD. STARTED,
YOU KNOW GUISE, WE GO
00:26:56.21\00:27:01.02
THERE IN A STAGE WHERE WE JUST
WANT TO RIDE OUR BIKES AND PLAY
00:27:01.02\00:27:06.89
BASEBALL, AND THEN
ONE DAY WE NOTICE A GIRL.
00:27:06.89\00:27:10.06
SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL.
THOUGHT I COULD TALK TO HER.
00:27:10.06\00:27:15.83
THEN ONE EVEING, AT
NV. >> MISSION VOLUNTEER.
00:27:15.83\00:27:23.41
>> MY FRIEND SAID
WANTS TO MEET YOU.
00:27:23.41\00:27:29.41
YEAH SURE, NO, SHE
SAID SHE WANTS TO MEET YOU.
00:27:29.41\00:27:34.38
WE EXCHANGED PHONE NUMBERS.
BACK THEN THERE WERE NO CELL
00:27:34.38\00:27:40.22
PHONES, HOME
PHONE OR PHONE BOOTHS.
00:27:40.22\00:27:48.13
INTRODUCTION WAS
FRIDAY NIGHT WORSHIP.
00:27:48.13\00:27:54.50
>> IT HAPPENED A
FEW YEARS AFTER AFTER.
00:27:54.50\00:28:01.41
>> NO, THE REAL BREAK
THROUGH CAME A FEW YEARS AFTER.
00:28:01.41\00:28:05.11
BUT THE CONNECTION TO FAMILY
WORSHIP BECAUSE WHEN IT FIRST
00:28:05.11\00:28:08.15
STARTED, WAS I NERVOUS? >> WHAT?
00:28:08.15\00:28:15.96
JAMAICAN ACCENT. THE SCRIPTURE?
00:28:15.96\00:28:20.76
SO JOHN PICKED UP THE
BIBLE, AND THIS IS HIM.
00:28:20.76\00:28:32.71
>> WE-WE-WELLGO-GO-GOD--AND HE
WOULD JUST PERSPIRE, HE WAS JUST
00:28:32.71\00:28:41.88
SO NERVOUS TO
READ THE WORD OF GOD.
00:28:41.88\00:28:45.99
WEREN'T YOU, HONEY. >>
BUT YOU KEPT INVITING ME.
00:28:45.99\00:28:49.39
>> COME FOR
WORSHIP. COME FOR WORSHIP.
00:28:49.39\00:28:52.73
THEN ONE FRIDAY EVENING,
EVERYBODY WAS DOING THEIR THING.
00:28:52.73\00:28:56.63
I SAID--I THINK WE
WERE ABOUT 19 THEN.
00:28:56.63\00:29:01.70
THAT. >> I SAID,
JOHN, HAVE YOU SAID
00:29:01.70\00:29:08.78
THIS BOOK "THE
GREAT CONTROVERSY."
00:29:08.78\00:29:15.38
ALIVE. >> KEEP THIS IN MIND.
00:29:15.38\00:29:20.56
I'M SLOWLY CRAWLING BACK,
BUT I'M STILL PARTYING AND DISK
00:29:20.56\00:29:30.27
JOCKEYING, BUT THE FIRST
CHAPTER WAS THE TIME OF TROUBLE.
00:29:30.27\00:29:34.10
IF YOU WANT A WAKE-UP CALL.
IT SCARED THE SIN OUT OF ME.
00:29:34.10\00:29:39.97
EARLIER THAT DAY--I
WORKED A BANK OF AMERICA.
00:29:39.97\00:29:43.65
I WOULD GO TO BANK OF AMERICA
WITH A POOL STICK AND BOOM BOX.
00:29:43.65\00:29:49.45
>> AT AGE 18? BANK OF AMERICA.
00:29:49.45\00:29:53.99
READ THE GREAT CONTROVERSY, I
READ THE CHAPTER ON THE PROMISE
00:29:53.99\00:29:57.83
OF CHRIST'S RETURN.
THEN I WENT BACK TO BASIC OF
00:29:57.83\00:30:01.06
AMERICA WITH A BIBLE
AND THE GREAT CONTROVERSY.
00:30:01.06\00:30:04.70
FROM FRIDAY TO
MONDAY. >> THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
00:30:04.70\00:30:06.50
>> IN NEW YORK I WAS LOOKING FOR
PEOPLE TO GIVE BIBLE STUDIES TO
00:30:06.50\00:30:10.74
ON THE WAY TO WORK.
THIS IS NOT AFTER LONG BIBLE
00:30:10.74\00:30:15.31
STUDIES. HOLY
SPIRIT CAME TO AWAKEN IN ME
00:30:15.31\00:30:19.55
WHAT I NEVER HAD A CLUE WOULD BE
IN MY LIFE THIS MANY YEARS LATER
00:30:19.55\00:30:23.95
AS IT IS. SO THAT
WAS THE BIG--THE BIG
00:30:23.95\00:30:28.39
TURN AROUND. THE
WORLD YET UNTIL ONE SUNDAY
00:30:28.39\00:30:35.33
SOMEBODY INVITED US TO
DISK JOCKEY FOR THEIR WEDDING.
00:30:35.33\00:30:39.57
I SAID OKAY, LORD,
THIS IS THE LAST TIME.
00:30:39.57\00:30:45.14
ON THE WAY TO THIS WEDDING
RECEPTION, THE HONDA CIVIC.
00:30:45.14\00:30:50.15
THAT'S WHEN THEY WERE SO SMALL
YOU COULD PUT THE ENTIRE CAR--A
00:30:50.15\00:30:57.52
SMART CAR. AN OLD MOBILE.
00:30:57.52\00:31:03.99
HER HEAD BROKE THE WINDSHIELD.
MY STEERING WHEEL WENT INTO THE
00:31:03.99\00:31:10.37
WINDSHIELD. OFF.
00:31:10.37\00:31:15.70
AND SURELY AFTER THAT WE
WENT TO OAKWOOD TOGETHER.
00:31:15.70\00:31:28.28
>> NOW JUMP AHEAD. >>
OFF AND ON WE WOULD DATE, AND
00:31:28.28\00:31:33.22
I WAS HOPING THAT
SHE WOULD TAKE ME BACK.
00:31:33.22\00:31:36.22
I WAS REALLY AWAY.
ANYTHING SHE SAID I WOULD SAY
00:31:36.22\00:31:40.50
YES, YES. HE WAS SO SOFT.
00:31:40.50\00:31:44.60
WOULD YOU DO THIS,
EVERYTHING I WANTED HE WOULD DO.
00:31:44.60\00:31:48.70
I WANT SOMEONE TO
NOT ALWAYS AGREE WITH ME.
00:31:48.70\00:31:59.81
>> THAT'S AMAZING. YOU
DEFINITELY HAVE PRINCIPLE.
00:31:59.81\00:32:02.58
AND THAT'S
INCREDIBLE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:32:02.58\00:32:05.02
>> AND I GOT SOME
BROOKLYN BACKBONE.
00:32:05.02\00:32:12.09
TASTES THAT THEY MADE TO GET RID
OF ME, THEY DIDN'T HEAR, HERE I
00:32:12.09\00:32:17.03
AM. STORY.
00:32:17.03\00:32:24.01
YEARS. EFFORT.
00:32:24.01\00:32:31.08
I WAS AT THE HOUSE. HE
SAID HOW LONG ARE YOU GOING
00:32:31.08\00:32:34.88
TO DATE MY
SISTER? I SAID, EXCUSE ME?
00:32:34.88\00:32:41.12
HE SAID ARE YOU GOING
TO DATE HER OR MARRY HER?
00:32:41.12\00:32:47.10
I SAID MARRY HER. HE SAID WHEN?
00:32:47.10\00:32:50.03
I SAID, NEXT MONTH, AND WE
WERE MARRIED WITHIN 30 DAYS.
00:32:50.03\00:32:56.44
>> REALLY?
PROPOSED AND I ACCEPTED.
00:32:56.44\00:33:02.08
>> IF HE DIDN'T ASK HE
WOULDN'T HAVE ASKED HIM EQUITY.
00:33:02.08\00:33:05.75
>> NO, HE NEVER
ASKED ME TO MARRY HIM.
00:33:05.75\00:33:11.79
>> SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO PUT
UP THE WEBS AND SENT OUT E-MAILS
00:33:11.79\00:33:19.66
ON YOUR FAVORITE COLORS.
IF YOU HAVE A SISTER WHO HAS
00:33:19.66\00:33:23.77
BEEN DATING FOR OUGHT OR NINE
YEARS, DO WHAT HER BROTHERS DID.
00:33:23.77\00:33:27.97
>> SO YOU'VE
BEEN--WHAT IS IT, THE YEARS?
00:33:27.97\00:33:35.14
>> 9 YEARS. AND
NOT EVEN--WHERE IS.
00:33:35.14\00:33:49.59
>> HE WAS OUR
YOUTH PASTOR AT THE TIME.
00:33:49.59\00:33:54.93
HE HAD PASSED A FEW TIMES
AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AT A
00:33:54.93\00:33:58.50
DIFFERENT LOCATION.
BUT WE HAD OUR RECEPTION.
00:33:58.50\00:34:09.04
THEN OUR LIVES JUST TOOK OFF.
THEN HER MOM--I HAVE TO TELL
00:34:09.04\00:34:12.38
THIS PART. STORY.
00:34:12.38\00:34:17.85
JUST THREE MONTHS, WE MOVED
IN--AND JUST TO ENCOURAGE THOSE
00:34:17.85\00:34:21.09
WHO WANT TO GET EVERYTHING
RIGHT, MY HESITANCY WAS THAT I
00:34:21.09\00:34:25.06
WANTED EVERYTHING TO BE
RIGHT. MONEY IN THE BANK.
00:34:25.06\00:34:27.76
SOMETHING TO OFFER MY WIFE. I
DIDN'T HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK.
00:34:27.76\00:34:31.03
I DIDN'T HAVE A
HOUSE FOR HER TO LIVE IN.
00:34:31.03\00:34:33.84
I DIDN'T HAVE AN ARGUMENT
THAT WAS EXCLUSIVELY MINE.
00:34:33.84\00:34:37.71
SO WHEN WE GOT
MARRIED, SHE MOVED INTO MY ROOM.
00:34:37.71\00:34:41.41
>> THIS IS HIS
GREEN AND YELLOW ROOM.
00:34:41.41\00:34:48.68
HOUSE. NO.
00:34:48.68\00:34:54.92
OTHER TENANTS, AND YOU I HAD A
SIMILAR IF.   AND SO EVERY NIGHT
00:34:54.92\00:35:08.44
THE BED WOULD COME UP. >>
AND THIS IS HOW WE LIVED FOR
00:35:08.44\00:35:12.24
THREE MONTHS. >> THREE MONTHS?
00:35:12.24\00:35:15.14
WOW. WEDDING--TO PHOTO PROOF OUR
00:35:15.14\00:35:19.85
WEDDING GOT STOLEN
OUGHT    OUT OF OUR CAR.
00:35:19.85\00:35:28.39
WE'RE LEAVING THE
CITY. WE MOVED TO FLORIDA.
00:35:28.39\00:36:03.39
AND SHE SAID THE SAME
WORD THAT DANNY ALWAYS USED.
00:36:03.39\00:36:08.03
SHE TOLD US TO GO. >>
THAT'S ALL SHE SAID GO.
00:36:08.03\00:36:11.23
>> GOD IS CALLING
YO, YOU BETTER GO.
00:36:11.23\00:36:13.64
>> AND WE HAD NO IDEA. >>
HOUR LIFE HAD CHANGED, AND IT
00:36:13.64\00:36:16.74
WAS TOTALLY--IT
WAS NEVER THE SAME.
00:36:16.74\00:36:22.54
THE LORD WHAT TO
DO AND OFF WE WENT.
00:36:22.54\00:36:26.51
THE SAME. >> BUT
OUR MARRIAGE HAS BEEN
00:36:26.51\00:36:31.22
STRENGTHENED THROUGH THE YEARS,
AND WE GOT OUR FIRST APARTMENT
00:36:31.22\00:36:38.89
IN FLORDA, . >>
THAT'S RIGHT, AND WE ONLY HAD
00:36:38.89\00:36:45.17
ONE CHAIR. A LOT OF
CARDBOARD BOXES AND ONE
00:36:45.17\00:36:48.50
RECLINER. TIMES
THEY TALK ABOUT THE FIRT
00:36:48.50\00:36:53.51
YEAR OF MARRIAGE,
A LOT OF ADJUSTMENT.
00:36:53.51\00:37:01.12
WE KNOW THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN MARRIED JUST A WEEK OR
00:37:01.12\00:37:06.65
TWO, AND THEY CAN RELATE TO
THE STORIES YOU'VE BEEN TALKING
00:37:06.65\00:37:09.49
ABOUT THAT
HAPPENED 35-36 YEARS AGO.
00:37:09.49\00:37:15.33
ADJUSTMENTS. NOT JUST
BEING IN YOUR HOUSE BUT
00:37:15.33\00:37:21.70
A ROOM WHERE THE HOUSE
BELONGS TO OTHER PEOPLE.
00:37:21.70\00:37:24.24
TELL ME ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE.
THE ADJUSTMENTS, TELL ME HOW YOU
00:37:24.24\00:37:28.81
DEALT WITH THOSE. >>
WELL, FOR THE FIRST FOUR
00:37:28.81\00:37:31.11
YEARS OF OUR MARRIAGE WHICH WERE
NEVER EXCLUSIVELY IN A PLACE
00:37:31.11\00:37:35.55
THAT WAS DOWN OWN. ONLY US.
00:37:35.55\00:37:39.22
SAID IT WAS A GARAGE.
>> AND THAT WAS A BUS.
00:37:39.22\00:37:44.13
>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE TRAVELED.
00:37:44.13\00:37:50.73
>> SOME PEOPLE'S MARRIAGES
WOULD HAVE FALLEN APART.
00:37:50.73\00:37:53.84
>> WE STAYED IN EACH OTHER'S
FACE EVERY DAY, AND WE LOVED IT.
00:37:53.84\00:38:00.88
WE WOULD SIT TOGETHER ON THE BUS
WITH THE SINGERS, AND WE LOVED
00:38:00.88\00:38:05.11
BEING WITH EACH
OTHER. WE TALKED A LOT.
00:38:05.11\00:38:12.35
EVEN THOUGH WE DATED
NINE YEARS, WE TALKED NONSTOP.
00:38:12.35\00:38:15.59
>> THAT TELLS ME THAT
YOU MARRIED YOUR BEST FRIEND.
00:38:15.59\00:38:18.46
YOU WERE TOGETHER,
DATING FOR NINE YEARS.
00:38:18.46\00:38:22.96
TO THE MARRIAGE. >>
THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
00:38:22.96\00:38:27.67
IN COMMON. SOMETIMES
PEOPLE GET MARRIED AND
00:38:27.67\00:38:30.54
FIND OUT HOW MUCH
TIME THEY CAN SPEND APART.
00:38:30.54\00:38:34.64
WE FEEL THERE IS SOMETHING
MISSING WHEN ANGIE IS NOT
00:38:34.64\00:38:39.25
AROUND, OR WHEN I'M NOT AROUND.
JUST EVEN UP TO RECENTLY WE WERE
00:38:39.25\00:38:44.29
IN THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, AND WE
WERE SWIMMING, AND THIS IS VERY
00:38:44.29\00:38:49.19
AMAZING HOW OUR
HEARTS ARE SO CONNECTED.
00:38:49.19\00:38:53.60
MONDAY   MONIQUE ANDERSON.
>> OH, YES, MOW KNEE ANDERSON.
00:38:53.60\00:39:01.87
>> AND SHE'S NOT A SWMMER
AND SHE HAD THIS FLOATY VEST.
00:39:01.87\00:39:06.91
WE WERE AT WATER ISLAND.
THEY SAID IF YOU SWIM OUT TO THE
00:39:06.91\00:39:16.12
BOUY YOU CAN SEE SEA LIFE.
I SAID SWIM TO THAT DONUT, IF
00:39:16.12\00:39:33.57
YOU CAN MAKE
THAT THERE, WE'LL DO.
00:39:33.57\00:39:41.78
FLOATING. DIFFERENT.
00:39:41.78\00:39:47.92
SHE'S FLOATING-SWIMMING,
SHE TURNS AROUND, AND BEFORE SHE
00:39:47.92\00:39:52.29
TURNS AROUND TO
SAY JOHN WHERE ARE YOU.
00:39:52.29\00:39:54.56
>> HE'S RIGHT THERE. >>
AND MY HEART I SAID, I NEED
00:39:54.56\00:39:57.89
TO BE RIGHT BY HER SIDE.
AND AS SHE TURNED AROUND, I WAS
00:39:57.89\00:40:03.10
RIGHT THERE. CALL YOU.
00:40:03.10\00:40:06.10
>> I WAS STARTING
TO PANIC. I CAN'T SWIM.
00:40:06.10\00:40:09.90
I SAID JOHN--HE
SAID I'M RIGHT HERE.
00:40:09.90\00:40:14.78
KNOW THAT HE WAS RIGHT THERE.
>> I WAS JUST GOING TO CALL YOU.
00:40:14.78\00:40:18.18
I SAID, YOU KNOW I
SENSED THAT, AND HERE I AM.
00:40:18.18\00:40:21.62
AND I'M GOING TO SWIM OUT THERE.
AND JUST FOR THE RECORD I NEVER
00:40:21.62\00:40:26.02
LET HER SWIM TO THAT BUOY
BECAUSE IT WAS JUST IS   TOO
00:40:26.02\00:40:34.96
FAR. WE DID A MISSION
TO FIVE DAYS NOT ALONG AGO.
00:40:34.96\00:40:40.37
TIP OF THE ICEBERG. WHAT
I WANT TO START, AND WE'RE
00:40:40.37\00:40:43.94
GOING TO BOUNCE BACK AND FORTH
ON THIS BECAUSE WE'VE CHOSE AN
00:40:43.94\00:40:48.04
SHORT OUTLINE, WHAT IS MARRIAGE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BOUNCE BACK AND
00:40:48.04\00:40:53.85
FORTH. WANT THEM
TO KNOW THAT MARRIAGE
00:40:53.85\00:41:01.72
IN THE ROCKS OF MARRIAGE, IN THE
SUNNY DAYS OF MARRIAGE, AND THE
00:41:01.72\00:41:04.69
FALL OF MARRIAGE AND WINTER,
BECAUSE A DOCTOR GARY CHAPMAN
00:41:04.69\00:41:10.67
WROTE A BOOK CALLED "THE
FOUR SEASONS OF MARRIAGE."
00:41:10.67\00:41:14.37
EVERYONE GOES THROUGH SOME OF
WINTER, SUMMER, SPRING AND FALL.
00:41:14.37\00:41:22.04
MARRIAGE IS A DIVINE
REVELATION IN HUMAN VESSELS.
00:41:22.04\00:41:26.28
>> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. >>
HUSBANDS LOVE YOUR WIVES JUST
00:41:26.28\00:41:29.95
AS CHRIST LOVED THE
CHURCH AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR HER.
00:41:29.95\00:41:33.19
EVEN AFTER 35 YEARS, GREG AND
JILL, I'M LEARNING WHAT IT MEANS
00:41:33.19\00:41:38.26
TO GIVE MYSELF FOR ANGIE.
ONE OF THE DANGERS IN BEING
00:41:38.26\00:41:41.66
TOGETHER SO LONG IS YOU COULD
ALLOW TIME TO ADJUST YOU TO THE
00:41:41.66\00:41:46.57
POINT WHERE YOU GET USED TO
EACH OTHER THAT YOU FORGET THOSE
00:41:46.57\00:41:55.01
VIVID MOMENTS. I HAVE
LEARNED SOMETIMES THINGS
00:41:55.01\00:41:57.58
ARE IMPORTANT TO ME. BUT
THE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT
00:41:57.58\00:42:00.55
TO ME MUST TAKE SECOND PLACE
TO THE WOMAN THAT'S IMPORTANT TO
00:42:00.55\00:42:05.15
ME. >> PUT ANGIE FIRST.
00:42:05.15\00:42:11.93
TO PUT HER FIRST. SO
HUSBANDS OUGHT TO LOVE THEIR
00:42:11.93\00:42:14.36
OWN WIVES AS THEIR OWN BODY.
HE WHO LOVES HIS WIFE LOVES
00:42:14.36\00:42:19.07
HIMSELF. HUSBAND.
00:42:19.07\00:42:24.31
WIFE IS GOING TO TALK TO
THE WIVES AT THE BEGINNING.
00:42:24.31\00:42:27.04
WHEN YOU--IF YOU WANT TO FIND
OUT WHAT LOVE IS ALL ABOUT, LOVE
00:42:27.04\00:42:31.35
YOUR WIFE. BECAUSE
IT REQUIRES GIVING UP
00:42:31.35\00:42:34.68
SOME OF YOURSELF. BUT
I ALSO LEARNED THAT IT
00:42:34.68\00:42:38.85
DOESN'T REQUIRE ME TO GIVE ME UP
UP, BUT WHATEVER THERE IS THAT I
00:42:38.85\00:42:44.33
HAVE THAT WILL HINDER THE
ENHANCEMENT OF MY RELATIONSHIP
00:42:44.33\00:42:48.60
WITH ANGIE, I HAVE LEANED AFTER
35 YEARS THAT WHATEVER IS IN MY
00:42:48.60\00:42:53.70
CLOSET OR IN MY LEADERSHIP THAT
MAY BE HINDERING OUR STRENGTH,
00:42:53.70\00:42:57.67
GIVE IT UP. OR
WEAKENING A RELATIONSHIP.
00:42:57.67\00:43:03.68
IT IS A DIVINE
RELATIONSHIP IN HUMAN VESSELS.
00:43:03.68\00:43:10.52
>> MARRIAGE IS A REFLECTION
OF DIVINE LOVE THROUGH HUMAN
00:43:10.52\00:43:14.96
VESSELS, AND IT'S FROM EPHESIANS
5:22-4 24 WHY IT SAYS WIVES
00:43:14.96\00:43:27.04
SUBMIT TO YOUR HUSBANDS.
CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE
00:43:27.04\00:43:29.64
CHURCH. BODY.
00:43:29.64\00:43:35.78
SUBJECT TO CHRIST, SO LET THE
WIVES BE TO THEIR OWN HUSBANDS
00:43:35.78\00:43:41.72
IN EVERYTHING. AND IT'S TRUE.
00:43:41.72\00:43:46.96
HOME, OUR HOME AS CYST IS 
   CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE
00:43:46.96\00:43:53.46
CHURCH. HE DOESN'T TELL
ME, YOU DO THIS OR YOU DO THAT.
00:43:53.46\00:43:58.23
WE'RE A TEAM. YES, I'M
THE NECK THAT TURNS THE
00:43:58.23\00:44:02.04
HEAD, AS THEY SAY. [ CHUCKLING ]
00:44:02.04\00:44:06.01
A LOVE FOR EACH OTHER.
WHEN WE MAKE A DECISION, HE
00:44:06.01\00:44:09.64
MAKES THE FINAL DECISION
IF IT'S A MAJOR DECISION.
00:44:09.64\00:44:13.92
>> IF WE'RE ON THE SPOT,
IT'S A CRITICAL DECISION.
00:44:13.92\00:44:17.15
NOW IF IT COMES TO BUYING
SOMETHING OR BUYING SOMETHING
00:44:17.15\00:44:22.02
MAJOR WE DON'T TRY
TO OVER RIDE EACH OTHER.
00:44:22.02\00:44:26.96
>> BUT WE'VE COME TO THE SAFETY
OF SOMETIMES YOU SAY JOHN, WHAT
00:44:26.96\00:44:30.33
SHOULD WE DO? AND I
SAY, HONEY, LET ME HANDLE
00:44:30.33\00:44:35.64
THIS. WHERE WE
FEEL COMFORTABLE TO DO
00:44:35.64\00:44:40.14
THAT. COMFORT IS THERE.
00:44:40.14\00:44:43.45
YES, WE'RE A
REFLECTION OF DIVINE LOVE.
00:44:43.45\00:44:48.38
POINT. PAPER OUT.
00:44:48.38\00:44:55.56
>> MARRIAGE IS A
DIVINE REVELATION.
00:44:55.56\00:45:00.33
>> RIGHT. AND THE
SECOND ONE IS REFLECTION
00:45:00.33\00:45:03.43
OF DIVINE LOVE. >> AMEN.
00:45:03.43\00:45:09.70
A RELATIONSHIP OF MUTUAL
ESTEEM. >> O THAT'S GOOD.
00:45:09.70\00:45:13.41
>> OH, YES. >> A
RELATIONSHIP OF MUTUAL
00:45:13.41\00:45:16.54
ESTEEM BETWEEN HUMAN VESSELS.
WHEN PEOPLE GET MARRIED, YOU SEE
00:45:16.54\00:45:22.72
THE WEDDING CEREMONIES, THEY
HAVE TWO CANDLES AND THEY BLOW
00:45:22.72\00:45:26.29
OUT. OTHER TWO OUT.
00:45:26.29\00:45:31.39
THE BIBLE SAYS YOU'RE
NO LONGER TWO BUT ONE.
00:45:31.39\00:45:36.30
ONE SPIRITUALLY, THAT WE
ARE--THAT   --THAT ANGIE BRINGS
00:45:36.30\00:45:44.64
TO THE TABLE THINGS THAT I DO
NOT HAVE. AND I BRING SOMETHING
00:45:44.64\00:45:52.91
TO THE TABLE THAT SHE DOESN'T
HAVE. AND IT WAS SAID IF YOU
00:45:52.91\00:45:56.92
BOTH AGREE ON EVERYTHING,
THEN SOMEONE IS UNNECESSARY.
00:45:56.92\00:46:00.62
I HAVE LEARNED, THE LORD HAS
GIVEN WIVES AND GREG, I DON'T
00:46:00.62\00:46:05.93
WANT YOU TO FEEL BAD ABOUT
THIS, BUT THE LORD HAS GIVEN
00:46:05.93\00:46:10.10
WIVES--I'M GOING TO USE THIS
PHRASE THE WRONG WAY, BUT THIS
00:46:10.10\00:46:15.84
SPIRITUAL INSIGHT THAT
SOMETIMES HUSBANDS LACK.
00:46:15.84\00:46:19.54
SHE'LL SEE THINGS THAT I DON'T
SEE AND THEN SHE'LL CATCH UP
00:46:19.54\00:46:23.11
LATER AND SAY,
YOU'RE RIGHT. >> I AGREE.
00:46:23.11\00:46:27.95
IN A CROWD OF PEOPLE. AND
SOMETIMES SOMEBODY COULD BE
00:46:27.95\00:46:32.69
APPROACHING ME AND SHE'LL SAY,
YOU KNOW, BE CAREFUL ABOUT THAT
00:46:32.69\00:46:37.19
PERSON. FRIENDLY,
AND THEN LATER ON, NO,
00:46:37.19\00:46:42.16
THEY'RE NOT BEING
FRIENDLY. THAT'S A PERCEPTION.
00:46:42.16\00:46:45.57
AND SOMETIMES JUST IN OUR
PRAYER LIFE THE LORD WILL REVEAL
00:46:45.57\00:46:50.84
SOMETHING TO MY WIFE
THAT SHE'LL SHARE WITH ME.
00:46:50.84\00:46:54.11
I WOULD SAY WOW,
I DON'T SEE THAT.
00:46:54.11\00:46:58.71
REVEALED THAT TO ME. AND
THE LORD GAVE US WIVES SO WE
00:46:58.71\00:47:06.25
DON'T MAKE FOOLS OF
OURSELVES. [ CHUCKLING ]
00:47:06.25\00:47:09.86
DON'T LIVE LONG
THAT ARE NOT MARRIED.
00:47:09.86\00:47:14.63
>> BUT YEAH, A LOT OF WOMEN,
ESPECIALLY GODLY WOMEN, WE GIVE
00:47:14.63\00:47:21.17
APOLOGIZES TO OUR HUSBAND
HAS. WE WANT THEM TO DO PETER.
00:47:21.17\00:47:24.47
AND I'LL SEE THINGS AND
I'LL BE LIKE, BE CAREFUL.
00:47:24.47\00:47:29.31
JUST BE CAREFUL.
HE'LL SAY, OH, OKAY.
00:47:29.31\00:47:32.85
THEN LATER ON HE'LL
SAY ANGIE, YOU WERE RIGHT.
00:47:32.85\00:47:36.05
BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT GOD
GIVES US, YOU KNOW, PERCEPTION,
00:47:36.05\00:47:40.59
I GUESS. >>
DIVISION INTERVENTION.
00:47:40.59\00:47:49.03
>> MORE SO, DIVINE. >>
THINK THINK WITH DONE TO BE
00:47:49.03\00:47:55.24
SO PROUD TO SAY, YOU GAVE THAT
TO MY SPOUSE AND I DIDN'T PICK
00:47:55.24\00:48:02.04
THAT UP? >> WELL, I
HAVE TO BE THE PRIEST
00:48:02.04\00:48:07.42
AM. INTEREST IS
THAT MUTUAL BACK AND
00:48:07.42\00:48:11.69
FORTHER WORTH THAT GOD
GIVES SOMETHING LIKE READING THE
00:48:11.69\00:48:16.42
WOW I NEVER SAW THAT
BEFORE. THAT'S POWERFUL.
00:48:16.42\00:48:19.66
MAYBE IT IS WHERE
PRIDE GET IN THE WAY.
00:48:19.66\00:48:33.71
TEAM. TIMES.
00:48:33.71\00:48:44.09
IT'S 100 ME, I THINK MARRIAGE
CAN BE A "TMENT"--NOT ALASKA.
00:48:44.09\00:48:52.76
TWO TWO POOL AS. >> ANY
WAY I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE
00:48:52.76\00:49:03.17
POINT. >> SO WE HAVE THAT IS.
00:49:03.17\00:49:09.31
THAT HAD HAD THAT
WILL. >> GOOD POINT.
00:49:09.31\00:49:16.72
>> THAT'S WHY MARRIAGE--
>> THE VIRTUES THAT HE GAVE TO
00:49:16.72\00:49:21.06
THE WOMAN. AND THE NUMBER.
00:49:21.06\00:49:30.13
>> THE IMAGE OF GOD CREATED
HE. MALE AND FEMALE, HE CREATED
00:49:30.13\00:49:36.07
THEM. MARRIAGE,
THE ALWAYS GOING TO TO
00:49:36.07\00:49:43.01
HAPPEN. NUMBER THE
IMAGE OF GOD IS THIS
00:49:43.01\00:49:49.45
PLEATS THE IMAGE
OF GOD YOU BUT THE.
00:49:49.45\00:49:57.16
WE'RE GOING TO
TAKE OFF REALLY QUICKLY.
00:49:57.16\00:50:03.30
>>
SANCTIFICATION OF HUMAN VESSELS.
00:50:03.30\00:50:07.77
>> ER WITH A GOING TO ABOUT.
AM THE CLOSER YOU GROW THREW
00:50:07.77\00:50:16.95
GOD, THE CLOSER
YOU COME TO EACH OTHER.
00:50:16.95\00:50:20.65
>> THE POINT
AGAIN. HUT THOSE WITHIN.
00:50:20.65\00:50:26.89
IF IF MARRIAGE IS. A .
00:50:26.89\00:50:39.67
>> AND IN PART
SANCTIFICATION TO HUMAN VESSEL.
00:50:39.67\00:50:43.47
>> REITERATE ING THE
TRIANGLE. THIS IS IMPORTANT.
00:50:43.47\00:50:46.47
WHEN WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH--WE
HAVE BEEN THROUGH INDIVIDUAL
00:50:46.47\00:50:49.91
TRIALS. WE'VE
BEEN THROUGH INTERNAL
00:50:49.91\00:50:53.85
STRUGGLES. HAD
TO REAND WE MADE THE
00:50:53.85\00:51:03.29
COMMITMENT THAT
WE'RE GOING ALL THE WAY.
00:51:03.29\00:51:15.57
>> FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
MARRIED, SOMETIMES EARLY IN THE
00:51:15.57\00:51:19.34
MARRIAGE THE WIFE
MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE.
00:51:19.34\00:51:25.45
THE DANGER WITH THAT,
AND WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
00:51:25.45\00:51:28.05
>> NO, NOT
ONCE. IN ALL 35 YEARS.
00:51:28.05\00:51:33.89
>> NEVER HAVE WE RUN TO SOMEONE
OUTSIDE OF OUR MARRIAGE BECAUSE
00:51:33.89\00:51:36.79
OF SOMETHING THAT I
DID SHE DIDN'T LIKE.
00:51:36.79\00:51:40.50
WELL. GRACE FROM MY HUSBAND.
00:51:40.50\00:51:45.53
AND HIM, THE SAME FROM
MINE. OTHER WORDS, IT DOESN'T GO
00:51:45.53\00:51:51.24
ANYWHERE. IT VERSE.
00:51:51.24\00:51:56.24
>> YOU HEAR A LOT OF TIMES
SPOUSE BASHING AND ALL THAT DOES
00:51:56.24\00:52:01.48
IS TEAR THE MARRIAGE DOWN.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, IN ALL OUR
00:52:01.48\00:52:05.12
YEARS THERE IS A LADY GOING TO
OUR CHURCH IN CALIFORNIA, ANNIE
00:52:05.12\00:52:11.23
JOHNSON. FRIEND.
00:52:11.23\00:52:17.07
ABOUT YOU, YOU NEVER SAID
ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOUR HUSBAND.
00:52:17.07\00:52:20.90
>> THAT'S GOOD. IN THE CHURCH.
00:52:20.90\00:52:32.05
YOU NERVE BASHED HIM.
YOU NEVER PUT HIM DOWN.
00:52:32.05\00:52:35.38
PRAISE THE LORD.
THROUGH, MY HEART IS A
00:52:35.38\00:52:42.82
GRAVEYARD. LEAVE IT THERE.
00:52:42.82\00:52:46.90
IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE.
YOU'LL NEVER HEAR ME GOSSIP
00:52:46.90\00:52:51.17
ABOUT MY HUSBAND OR
SAYING ANYTHING BAD.
00:52:51.17\00:52:56.84
AND SAME WITH HIM. >>
THAT MINES YOU CAN TRUST HIM.
00:52:56.84\00:53:03.61
>> WE'VE SIGN COUPLES--IN ALL OF
OUR CHURCHES--ONE PERSON--I LIKE
00:53:03.61\00:53:10.12
THE WAY THAT IT WAS ONE
SAID. SO, THIS PERSON COMPLAIN,
00:53:10.12\00:53:15.26
COMPLAIN,
COMPLAIN. SO TO CONCLUDE.
00:53:15.26\00:53:18.79
YOU HAVE THE BEST OF THE WORST.
BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT FIND A
00:53:18.79\00:53:22.20
GOOD THING TO SAY
ABOUT THEIR SPOUSE.
00:53:22.20\00:53:27.17
YOU HAVE THE BEST OF THE WORST.
WE'VE HAD PEOPLE COME TO US WHO
00:53:27.17\00:53:31.44
HAVE CUT DOWN THEIR SPOUSE.
I HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT'S LIKE
00:53:31.44\00:53:35.08
TAKING A FEATHER PILLOW ON A
WINDY DAY AND BEATING IT ON THE
00:53:35.08\00:53:44.32
SIDE OF YOUR HOUSE, AND
THE FEATHERS GO EVERYWHERE.
00:53:44.32\00:53:47.59
AND WHEN THE WIND DIES OUT
YOU'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO COMPLETE
00:53:47.59\00:53:54.13
THEM. AND WHEN
YOU SHARE THAT, IT'S A
00:53:54.13\00:53:59.53
BURDEN FOR THEM TO CARRY
FOR WHICH THEY HAVE NO ANSWER.
00:53:59.53\00:54:02.44
AND IT IS FOR GOD TO
ANSWER. WE HAVE CHOSEN.
00:54:02.44\00:54:05.44
WE WOULD RATHER FIGHT
THIS WITH OUR MARRIAGE.
00:54:05.44\00:54:12.18
MARRIAGE. >> OKAY.
00:54:12.18\00:54:17.39
>> FIGHT OVER THE ISSUES.
WE TALK STRAIGHT TO EACH OTHER.
00:54:17.39\00:54:25.43
MY WIFE, I CANSIT HER DOWN
AND WE CAN TALK STRAIGHT TO EACH
00:54:25.43\00:54:29.60
OTHER. IT.
00:54:29.60\00:54:37.74
>> SOMETIMES IT
CUTS LIKE A KNIFE.
00:54:37.74\00:54:42.31
HONEY, I'M SORRY.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
00:54:42.31\00:54:45.35
>> SOMETIMES I WOULD SIT DOWN
EYES AND I'LL BECOME CHOKED UP.
00:54:45.35\00:54:49.98
I WILL SAY, I'M SO SORRY. I
LOOK IN HER EYES, AND WE SAY
00:54:49.98\00:54:55.19
OKAY, NOW WE CAN GO ON. WE
PRAY ABOUT IT AND WE LEAVE IT
00:54:55.19\00:54:58.16
IN THE LORD'S HANDS. FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE TRYING
00:54:58.16\00:55:01.00
TO DEVELOP A RELATIONSHIP, AS
MUCH AS YOU THINK THAT GETTING
00:55:01.00\00:55:03.57
PEOPLE AGAINST YOURS HOUSE
OR THE PERSON YOU'RE COURTING IS
00:55:03.57\00:55:06.10
GOING TO HELP YOU--NO.
IT'S GOING TO DESTROY THEPERSON
00:55:06.10\00:55:13.44
YOU'RE PLANNING ON MARRYING.
THAT'S THE THING--YOU KNOW WHAT
00:55:13.44\00:55:17.88
HAPPENS, AND MY SISTER-IN-LAW,
ANGIE'S SISTER ALWAYS SAYS, STAY
00:55:17.88\00:55:21.75
OUT OF MARIED'S
PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
00:55:21.75\00:55:26.09
THAT. BUSINESS,
DON'T GET INTO THEIR
00:55:26.09\00:55:32.89
BUSINESS. BUT WE
DON'T GET INTO I'M
00:55:32.89\00:55:43.77
BUSINESS. PARENTS
OR OTHER ABOUT EVERY
00:55:43.77\00:55:48.88
LITTLE THING. BUT
YOU LAUGH TOGETHER.
00:55:48.88\00:55:52.15
I WAS THINKING ABOUT, OKAY,
WE'RE NOT IN OUR OWN HOUSE.
00:55:52.15\00:55:55.85
WE'RE IN OUR OWN
ROOM. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
00:55:55.85\00:55:58.42
WE'RE IN A GARAGE. ONE CHAIR.
00:55:58.42\00:56:06.63
EVEN TODAY YOU'RE
LAUGHING ABOUT IT.
00:56:06.63\00:56:13.23
WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT,
ALL WE HAVE IS ONE CHAIR.
00:56:13.23\00:56:17.47
IS THAT IT? LAUGH
ABOUT IT, ALL WE HAVE IS
00:56:17.47\00:56:25.25
ONE. I'LL SIT IN IT TOMORROW.
00:56:25.25\00:56:33.25
>> WE DI HAVE ONE
BED. ONE BED ONE CHAIR.
00:56:33.25\00:56:38.93
NO TABLE. THEY WOULD
COME TO OUR HOUSE AND
00:56:38.93\00:56:42.43
THEY WOULD RUN TO THAT ONE CHAIR
TO SIT DOWN AND WE WOULD EAT ON
00:56:42.43\00:56:46.50
THE FLOOR. >> WHAT
AN INCREDIBLE FIRST
00:56:46.50\00:56:50.01
HOUR. QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
00:56:50.01\00:56:54.18
AND I'M JUST GOING TO
READ THIS ONE REALLY FAST.
00:56:54.18\00:57:01.18
EN'S FAMILY. HER
HUSBAND IS 93 AND SHE'S 88
00:57:01.18\00:57:07.29
YEARS OLD. PRAISE
THE LORD EVERY DAY.
00:57:07.29\00:57:09.89
>> WELL, I HAVE ONE BUT
I'LL WAIT FOR THE SECOND HOUR.
00:57:09.89\00:57:14.73
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SURE YOU CALL IN THIS EVENING.
00:57:14.73\00:57:18.20
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00:57:18.20\00:57:28.81
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00:57:28.81\00:57:33.11
QUESTIONS ABOUT MARRIAGE.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW FAST THIS
00:57:33.11\00:57:37.35
FIRST HOUR HAS GONE BY.
IT'S BEEN AN HOUR OF JOY.
00:57:37.35\00:57:40.92
HEARING WHAT GOD HAS DONE, AND
WHAT GOD CONTINUES TO DO IN YOUR
00:57:40.92\00:57:44.39
MARRIAGE. DON'T GO AWAY.
00:57:44.39\00:57:49.90
MOMENT WITH A SECOND HOUR.
00:57:49.90\00:57:53.70