Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), James Rafferty
Series Code: TL
Program Code: TL018505B
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00:08 >> AND WE ARE BACK. 3ABN "TODAY LIVE." 00:14 THURSDAY NIGHT, WE'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME IN THE LORD, AND 00:18 HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE HEARD SOMETHING THAT HAS TOUCHED YOU, 00:20 THAT HAS HELPED YOU, AND WILL INDEED HELP YOU TO WALK THIS 00:26 ROAD TO LEADS TO GLORY. MY GUEST IS PASTOR JAMES 00:31 RAFFERTY, NOT TRAVELING AS MUCH AS HE DID IN THE PAST, BUT HE 00:37 CAME TO BE WITH US HERE ON 3ABN, AND WE'RE VERY GLAD HE DID. 00:45 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LIVES OF MEN WHO WERE ACCOUNTED AND 00:49 ACQUITTED AS BEING RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND SEE HOW THAT 00:53 RIGHTEOUSNESS PAILS TO THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF THE LORD. 00:59 AND GOD WANTS YOU TO SURRENDER TO HIM, TO WALK WITH HIM, AND TO 01:03 LET CHRIST LIVE OUT HIS LIFE THROUGH YOU, AND WE'RE GOING TO 01:06 DEAL A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THAT IN THIS -- THIS HOUR. 01:11 HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT DANIEL AND 01:15 JOB, TWO MEN OF THE OLD TESTAMENT. 01:18 NOW WE GO TO PAUL AND JOHN. >> JOHN. 01:22 >> AND JOHN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. 01:25 BEFORE WE DO SO, WE'RE GOING TO GET OUR MUSIC FROM STEPHANIE 01:31 DAWN. STEPHANIE IS GOING TO BE RING 01:35 E -- SINGING "O GLORIOUS LOVE." ♪ 01:55 ♪ IN MY DARKNESS JESUS FOUND ME ♪ 02:01 ♪ TOUCHED MY EYES AND MADE ME SEE ♪ 02:12 ♪ BROKEN CHAINS THAT HAD BOUND ME ♪ 02:19 ♪ GAVE ME LIFE AND LIBERTY ♪ ♪ OH GLORIOUS LOVE OF CHRIST, MY 02:33 LORD DEFINE ♪ ♪ WHO GAVE HIMSELF TO SAVE A 02:41 SOUL LIKE MINE ♪ ♪ ALL MY DAYS [ INAUDIBLE ] 02:53 ♪ MY SONG AND SILENCE NEVER ♪ ♪ I WORSHIP HIM FOREVER ♪ 03:00 ♪ AND PRAISE HIM FOR HIS GLORIOUS LOVE ♪ 03:13 ♪ OH, AMAZING TRUTH TO PONDER ♪ ♪ HE WHO AGE OF HOPE BEGINS ♪ 03:33 ♪ [ INAUDIBLE ] WONDER ♪ ♪ HE BECAME THE SINNER'S 03:44 FRIEND ♪ ♪ OH GORGEOUS LOVE OF CHRIST, MY 03:50 LORD DIVINE ♪ ♪ WHO GAVE HIMSELF TO SAVE A 03:54 SOUL LIKE MINE ♪ ♪ THROUGH ALL MY DAYS 04:07 [ INAUDIBLE ] ♪ ♪ MY SONG WILL SILENCE NEVER ♪ 04:13 ♪ I'LL WORSHIP HIM FOREVER ♪ ♪ AND PRAISE HIM FOR HIS 04:19 GLORIOUS LOVE ♪ ♪ AND PRAISE HIM FOR HIS 04:28 GLORIOUS LOVE ♪ 04:43 >> STEPHANIE DAWN, DAN THORNTON HER STEPFATHER PLAYING FOR HER, 04:49 "O GLORIOUS LOVE." HE SAID WITHOUT HIS GLASSES ON. 04:51 NOW THAT I HAVE GOT THEM BACK ON. 04:55 JAMES RAFFERTY IS WITH US. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 04:58 RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. AND WE'RE LOOKING NOW AT TWO NEW-TESTAMENT CHARACTERS, AND WE'RE 05:04 GOING TO LOOK HOW THIS IDEA -- THIS THEME IS WOVEN IN 05:07 THEIR LIVES. JAMES? 05:09 >> YEAH, THE REASON I REALLY LIKE PAUL THAT WE'RE GOING TO 05:13 NOW IS BECAUSE WE HAVE LOOKED AT JOB AND DANIEL, AND WHO MEN WHO 05:19 OBVIOUSLY ARE BEARING THE FRUITS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. 05:22 IN OTHER WORDS THEIR LORD IS THEIR RIGHTEOUSNESS AND 05:27 THEREFORE THEY LIVE RIGHTEOUSNESS LIVES. 05:28 BUT CLEARLY GOD HAS GIVEN THEM TO US SO WE DON'T GET CONFUSED 05:33 WITH THE FRUITS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS AND THE MEANS OF SALVATION. 05:37 THE MEANS OF SALVATION IS THE DOING AND DIEING OF JESUS. 05:41 THAT'S HOW WE'RE SAVED. DANIEL AND JOB LIVED LIVES THAT 05:46 TOOK CARE OF OTHER PEOPLE -- I LIKE TO SAY THAT JOB WAS 05:50 SOCIALLY RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND DANIEL WAS POLITICALLY 05:54 RIGHTEOUSNESS. IF YOU ARE A POLITICIAN, YOU 05:57 LOOK AT DANIEL, AND HE TELLS YOU HOW TO BE RIGHTEOUSNESS. 06:00 YOU LOOK AT JOB, AND HE TELLS YOU THOUSAND BE RIGHTEOUSNESS IN 06:05 THE WAY YOU RELATE TO SOCIAL ISSUES. 06:08 PAUL IS GOING TO SHOW US HOW TO BE RIGHTEOUSNESS OR NOT BE 06:12 RIGHTEOUSNESS IN A WAY THAT RELATES TO RELIGIOUS ISSUES. 06:18 PAUL'S IS MORE THE RELIGIOUS DOCTRINAL ISSUES. 06:24 SO THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING. IN PAUL'S EXPERIENCE, PAUL 06:31 ACTUALLY IS RIGHTEOUSNESS IN A HUMAN SENSE BEFORE HE ENCOUNTERS 06:36 CHRIST AND THAT PRODUCES THE RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT IS THE FRUIT 06:40 OF SALVATION. JOB AND DANIEL, I THINK HAD 06:45 GENUINE EXPERIENCE WITH THE FRUIT OF RIGHTEOUSNESSNESS. 06:48 BUT PAUL IS ACTUALLY PRODUCING A RIGHTEOUSNESS PRIOR TO MEETING 06:53 CHRIST THAT HE BELIEVES FULFILLS THE LAW. 06:56 >> CAN I JUST TOUCH ON SOMETHING, AND FORGIVE ME FOR 07:00 INTRUDING ON YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS, BUT SOMETHING JUST 07:03 POPPED IN MY MIND. THE BIBLE SAYS [ INAUDIBLE ] 07:06 ENEMIES BE AT PEACE WITH HIM. THAT DANIEL SERVED UNDER ONE, 07:12 TWO, THREE -- FOUR DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS. 07:21 >> UH-HUH. >> AND MINISTERS TO ALL OF THEM. 07:23 SO ALL OF THEM SAW IN HIM A WISDOM, A -- 07:27 >> SPIRIT. >> -- A SPIRIT THAT FIRST OF ALL 07:30 THEY COULD RELATE TO, AND THAT THEY KNEW THEY NEEDED THAT KIND 07:35 OF COUNSEL IN THEIR KINGDOM, THERE IS A PASTOR WHO IS NOW ON 07:44 AMBASSADOR IN THE PHILIPPINES. HE IS STILL THERE. 07:48 HE IS ADVENTIST PASTOR, THOUGH THE ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE 07:51 CHANGED -- AND USUALLY WHEN A NEW ADMINISTRATION COMES, THEY 07:55 WANT THEIR GUYS IN THERE, BUT HE HAS LASTED THROUGH ALL FOUR, 07:59 BECAUSE THEY SEE IN HIM THIS HONESTY AND PURITY THAT THEY 08:03 WANT THIS THEIR ADMINISTRATION. SO WHEN YOU STAND UP FOR THE 08:07 LORD, PEOPLE MAY NOT LOVE WHAT YOU SAY, BUT THEY WILL RESPECT 08:10 YOU, AND THEY HAVE NO CHARGE AGAINST YOU, BECAUSE YOUR LIFE 08:13 IS OPEN, YOUR LIFE IS CLEAN, YOUR LIFE IS WITH THE LORD. 08:17 AND DANIEL PORTRAYED THAT THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT 08:21 ADMINISTRATIONS AND TWO DIFFERENT EMPIRES. 08:22 >> AMEN. AND LET'S HIT THIS NAIL ON THE 08:26 HEAD THEN, SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. 08:28 AND THEREFORE, THIS LIFE THT WE LIVE, THIS BEAUTIFUL EXPERIENCE 08:33 IN THE LIVES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS PEOPLE, LIKE MOTHER THAT ARE 08:39 THERESA SAID, SHE SAID PRAY FOR ME, THAT I WOULD NOT LET GO OF 08:42 MY HAND ON JESUS IN THE GUISE OF APPROXIMATE SERVING THE POUR. 08:48 THE GREATEST DANGER THAT WE WOULD HAVE IS THAT WE SOMEHOW 08:52 SHIFT FROM TRUSTING IN JESUS CHRIST IN OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, TO 08:55 TRUSTING IN OUR WORKS AS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. 08:58 >> YES. >> AND EVN HAVING OTHER PEOPLE 09:00 TRUST IN OUR -- LIKE I ASK PEOPLE ALL THE TIME, DO YOU 09:04 THINK MOTHER THERESA WILL BE IN HEAVEN? 09:07 OF COURSE. I SAY WHY? 09:09 AND THEN I SHARE THAT STATEMENT WITH THEM. 09:12 BECAUSE SHE WANTED HER RIGHTEOUSNESS TO BE IN JESUS. 09:17 AND WE TALKED ANN PROTESTANTS AND CATHOLICS, AND I WANT TO 09:21 SAY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT DENOMINATION. 09:24 THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND AND -- AND TAKE AHOLD OF 09:27 RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH IN EVERY DENOMINATION. 09:30 EVERY PROTESTANT IN THE 14TH, 14TH, 16TH CENTURY, THEY ALL 09:37 CAME OTT OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. THEY ARE ALL CATHOLICS. 09:42 AND I WAS A CATHOLIC. SO THIS IS ABOUT THE BIBLE AND 09:47 CHRIST, AND THERE WILL BE PEOPLE IN ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, 09:52 WHO COME TO THIS REALIZATION THAT THEY ARE NOTHING AND GOD IS 09:56 EVERYTHING, AND THEY NEED TO PUT 100% TRUST IN HIM RATHER THAN 10:04 THEMSELVES. NOW PAUL WAS A PERSECUTOR OF THE 10:08 CHRISTIAN CHURCH. IT STARTS IN PHILIPPIANS 3, IF 10:12 YOU COULD READ FOR US -- PHILLIPIANS 3, AND READ 10:18 DOWN TO VERSE 9, 3 TO 9. >> OKAY. 10:22 FOR WE ARE THE CIRCUMSTANCE COUPLE SITUATION WHO WORSHIP 10:30 GOD, AND HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE FLESH. 10:33 THOUGH, I MIGHT ALSO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE FLESH IF 10:36 ANYONE ELSE THINKS HE MIGHT HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE FLESH. 10:40 I MORE SO. CIRCUMCISED ON THE 8TH DAY, 10:50 HEBREW OF HE HEBREWS, CONCERNING ZEAL, CONCERNING RIGHTEOUSNESS, 10:57 BLAMELESS. BUT WHAT THINGS WERE GAINED TO 11:00 ME? THESE I COUNTED LOSS FOR CHRIST. 11:05 YET INDEED I ALSO COUNT ALL THINGS LOSS FOR THE EXCELLENCE 11:11 OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD -- KNOWLEDGE OF CHRIST 11:15 JESUS, MY LORD, FOR WHOM I HAVE SUFFERED THE LOSS OF ALL THINGS 11:19 AND COUNT THEM AS RUBBISH THAT I MAY GAIN CHRIST. 11:23 AND I FOUND IN HIM NOT HAVING MY OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, WHICH IS FROM 11:28 THE LAW, BUT THAT WHICH IS THROUGH FAITH IN CHRIST, THE 11:32 RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS FROM GOD BY FAITH. 11:34 >> THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND IT IN THE 11:38 NEW TEST. HE WANTS TO HAVE JESUS CHRIST 11:42 HIS LORD AS THE LORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 11:44 THIS IS INCREDIBLE. THIS GUY WAS BLAMELESS. 11:51 SOMETIMES I FIND IT EASY TO CONFESS MY SHORTCOMINGS AND MY 12:00 FAILURES WHEN THEY ARE PAST. >> YES. 12:02 >> [ INAUDIBLE ]. [ LAUGHTER ] 12:03 >> YEAH, YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I DID TO MY WIFE THREE 12:07 YEARS AGO. IT WAS TERRIBLE. 12:09 NOT ABOUT WHAT I DID TO MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY OR TODAY. 12:13 AND PAUL IS IN THIS SITUATION, OKAY? 12:15 SO HE'S -- HE'S EXPRESSING WHAT HE ONCE WAS. 12:21 BUT HERE IS WHAT IS INTERESTING. I THINK IT'S SO PROFOUND. 12:24 HE IS DOING THIS TO HELP US TO REALIZE THAT HE ACTUALLY THOUGHT 12:29 THAT HE WAS BLAMELESS. >> UH-HUH. 12:35 >> CA -- HE THOUGHT HE WAS BLAMELESS. 12:39 PAUL THOUGHT HE WAS BLAMELESS BEFORE THE LAW. 12:41 >> YEAH. >> I MEAN THIS IS -- THIS IS THE 12:45 MENTALITY THAT WE HAVE AS HUMAN BEINGS, AND PAUL HAD THIS 12:50 MENTALITY. HE -- HE WAS A FOURTH GENERATION 12:57 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST. HE WAS BAPTIZED. 12:59 HE FOLLOWED HEALTH MEASURES TO A TEA. 13:02 >> NOT ONLY VEGETARIAN, VEGAN. >> YEAH. 13:05 AND THERE'S A NEW PHRASE. I'M A NUTRITARIAN. 13:14 [ LAUGHTER ] >> AND I JUST -- THE REASON WHY 13:17 I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT AND SO PROFOUND IS BECAUSE THIS 13:22 REALLY HITS THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. 13:26 HERE WE HAVE THE ULTIMATE DECEPTION THAT WE CN FALL INTO 13:31 ON A RELIGIOUS LEVEL, AND THAT IS THAT WE CAN BE TO CONNECTED 13:37 WITH ALL O THE RIGHT TRUTH AND PEOPLE AND HERITAGE, THAT WE CAN 13:41 ACTUALLY THINK THAT WE ARE BLAMELESS FOR THE LAW OF GOD. 13:45 AND THIS IS WHERE PAUL WAS AT. NOW JOB WAS THERE, IN A SENSE, 13:50 FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. SOCIALLY BLAMELESS THAT WAS HIS 13:54 THING. AND THEN HE SAW GOD. 13:56 HE IS LIKE, AH! >> UH-HUH. 13:58 >> DANIEL WAS THERE -- NOT BECAUSE HE WASN'T HUMBLE, HE WAS 14:04 VERY HUMBLE. SO HE WASN'T COMING ACROSS AS 14:08 DEFENDING HIMSELF IN ANY WAY. AND JOB ACTUALLY TRIES TO DEFEND 14:14 HIMSELF. BUT DANIEL IS JUST HUMBLE PIE, 14:17 AND YET WHEN HE SEES GOD -- AH! >> SAME THING. 14:21 >> AND NOW YOU COME TO PAUL, AND HE IS SELF DECEIVED. 14:26 HE HAS THE PEDIGREE, THE CONNECTION, HE HAS EVERYTHING 14:30 THAT IS NEEDED. HE WHOLE PACKAGE IS THERE, BUT 14:34 HE NEEDS TO SEE SOMEBODY IN ORDER TO GET OUT OF THIS SELF 14:39 DECEPTION, AND WHO DOES HE NEED TO SEE? 14:41 >> HE NEEDS TO SEE CHRIST. SEE THAT IS THE DEAL -- 14:45 [ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT PAUL HAS COME OUT OF A 14:47 MIND SET THAT HIS -- HIS BACKGROUND SAYS THIS IS HOW YOU 14:50 GET IN THERE, MAN. YOU WORK YOURSELF. 14:55 YOU KNOW, YOU WASH YOURSELF -- >> HELLO, SEVENTH-DAY 14:58 ADVENTISTS. >> THIS IS HOW YOU DO IT. 15:00 AND WHAT IS INTERESTING IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HIS RIFF OF THE 15:03 CHURCH, WE STARTED OUT THAT WAY. WE OF COURSE CORRECTED IN THE 15:07 LATE 1800S, AND OUR TENDENCY IS TO WANT TO SWING BACK THAT 15:11 WAY -- >> OR THE OTHER WAY. 15:13 >> OR THE OTHER WAY. BUT WE WANT TO DO IT SO BADLY, 15:18 IT'S JUST NATURAL TO THING I CAN HELP THIS DEAL. 15:21 I CAN HELP CHRIST. >> ABRAHAM AND SARAH. 15:26 >> YEAH, I CAN DO THIS. >> ISAIAH 30:21 SAYS YOU WILL 15:32 HEAR A VOICE BEHIND YOU SAYING -- 15:34 >> THIS IS THE WAY. >> WHETHER YOU TURN TO THE 15:38 LEFT -- >> OR TO THE RIGHT. 15:39 >> I'M NOT TURNING TO THE LEFT. I'M NOT GOING IN THAT 15:44 PROGRESSIVE MODE. NO, I'M CONSERVATIVE. 15:46 >> PRECISELY. >> THAT'S THE RIGHT. 15:48 >> I'M GOING TO THE RIGHT. NO BUTTER. 15:51 >> YEAH. [ LAUGHTER ] 15:53 >> SO -- SO -- THAT'S GOOD. SO HERE WE ARE, OKAY? 16:01 ONE EXAMPLE OLD TESTAMENT. TWO EXAMPLE OLD TESTAMENT. 16:05 THREE EXAMPLE, NEW TESTAMENT. AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE EXAMPLE 16:08 LEFT. AND THIS FOURTH EXAMPLE IS JOHN. 16:10 NOW, I HAVE GOT TO DO JOHN, BECAUSE JOHN WAS AMAZING. 16:15 HE HAD RELATIONAL INTEGRITY. >> VERY MUCH SO. 16:18 >> SO I WANT TO LOOK AT JOHN FROM THE PERSPECTIVE AS -- WE 16:24 LOOKED AT JOB SOCIALLY, DANIEL, POLITICAL INTEGRITY, PAUL WITH 16:31 RELIGIOUS INTEGRITY, BUT JOHN HAS PROPHETIC INTEGRITY. 16:42 HE HAS BEEN TAKEN OFF TO THE HIGH PRIEST AND THEN TO PILOT. 16:47 AND IN THAT PROCESS, THE DISCIPLES ALL SCATTERED, BUT 16:50 THEN A COUPLE ARE GOING BACK, JOHN AND PETER. 16:54 >> AND PETER. >> AND PETER FROM ALL ACCOUNTS 16:57 PREVIOUS TO THIS, PETER IS THE GUY THAT WON'T DENY CHRIST NO 17:02 MATTER WHAT. THEY WILL, BUT I WON'T. 17:04 BUT THE RELATION ALINTEGRITY LAYS WITH JOHN. 17:11 HE IS THE ONE THAT IS THERE. HEAVEN GETS ACCESS FOR PETER 17:15 INTO THAT LITTLE, YOU KNOW, COURTYARD, AND HE IS THE ONE 17:19 THAT JUST HOLDS RELATIONALLY -- >> YEAH. 17:23 >> -- HE'S CALLED JOHN THE BELOVED. 17:26 >> YEAH, AND IT FILTERS THROUGH HIS GOSPEL AND THROUGH 1, AND 2 17:32 JOHN ALSO. >> YEAH. 17:35 >> THAT'S VERY MUCH INTEGRAL TO -- TO WHAT HE HAS TO SAY. 17:39 >> YES, WHICH BY THE WAY, PAUL BEGINS TO GET THAT AND 17:43 SUPPLEMENTS THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT THE 17:48 LAW IS SYNONYMOUS WITH LOVE. YOU CAN DIVORCE THE TWO, BUT 17:55 WHEN WE GET THAT BALANCE, WE DON'T WANT TO FOCUS ON THE LOVE 17:59 AND SAY TO THE NEGLECT OF THE LAW, AND WE DON'T EVER WANT TO 18:03 FOCUS ON THE LAW TO THE NEGLECT OF LOVE. 18:09 BUT THE POINT IS JOHN HAS RELATIONAL INTEGRITY. 18:13 SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT A GUY THAT JUST WAS CONSISTENTLY 18:23 FAITHFUL AND RIGHTEOUSNESS -- I FAIL IN ALL OF THESE AREAS. 18:27 I DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO JOHN, DANIEL, PAUL, OR JOB. 18:32 ALL RIGHT? BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE 18:35 EXAMPLES, BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE MEN WHO DO ACTUALLY EXCEL IN 18:41 THESE AREAS, AND EXEMPLIFY THE AREAS, AND WE WANT TO SEE HOW 18:46 THEY MEASURE UP TO CHRIST OR TO THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. 18:51 SO WE WANT TO GET TO REVELATION. IS THERE A WAY I CAN COME TO 18:57 3ABN AND LEAVE 3ABN WITHOUT OPENING THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS? 19:04 [ LAUGHTER ] >> I GUESS NOT. 19:05 >> REVELATION IS WHERE ALL OF THE BOOKS OF THE BIBLE BEGIN AND 19:10 END. SO REVELATION 1, AGAIN, JUST 19:14 LIKE DANIEL JOHN'S IN VISION, AND I WANT US -- CAN YOU READ 19:23 VERSES 12 TO 18. >> REVELATION 1:12-18? 19:29 >> YEP. >> THEN I TURN TO SEE THE VOICE 19:32 THAT SPOKE WITH ME, AND HAVING TURNED I SAW SEVEN GOLDEN LAMP 19:37 STANDINGS, AND IN THE MIDST OF THE SEVEN LAMP STANDS ONE LIKE 19:41 THE SON OF MAN, CLOSED WITH A GARMENT DOWN TO THE FEET, AND 19:49 GIRTED ABOUT THE CHEST WITH A GOLDEN BAND. 19:52 HIS HEAD AND HAIR WERE WHITE AS WOOL, AS WHITE AS SNOW, AND HIS 19:57 EYE LIKE A FLAME OF FIRE. HIS FEET WERE LIKE FINE BASS AS 20:02 IF REFINED IN A FURNACE AND HIS VOW WAS THE SOUND OF MANY 20:09 WATERS. HE HAD IN HIS RIGHT HAND SEVEN 20:12 STARS, OUT OF HIS MOUTH A SHARP TWO-EDGED SWORD, AND VERSE 17, 20:20 AND WHEN I SAW HIM, I FELL AT HIS FEET AS DEAD, BUT HE LAID 20:24 HIS RIGHT HAND ON ME, SAYING TO ME, DO NOT BE AFRAID, I AM THE 20:29 FIRST AND THE LAST. AND YOU WANT VERSE 18? 20:32 >> UH-HUH. >> I AM HE WHO LIVED AND WAS 20:37 DEAD, AND AM ALIVE FOREVER MORE. AMEN. 20:41 AND I HAVE THE KEYS OF HADES AND HEAVEN. 20:52 >> HE IS IDENTIFIED HERE AS THE SON OF MAN. 20:55 THIS IS JESUS. >> OH, YEAH. 20:57 >> WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS GUY THAT HAS BEEN FAITHFUL ALL THROUGH 21:00 HIS LIFE -- IN FACT AT THIS POINT, HE'S ON -- HE IS 21:08 SUFFERING ON THE ISLE, IN FACT THEY TRIED TO TAKE HIS LIFE. 21:20 THEY TRIED TO PUT HIM IN A VAT OF BOILING OIL -- 21:23 >> COULD N'T DO IT. >> HE IS FULL OF LOVE, LOVE, 21:29 LOVE, LOVE, LOVE. HE IS FAITHFULEN WHEN THE OTHER 21:34 DISCIPLES LEFT. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE SEES JESUS? 21:37 >> YEAH. >> IT'S LIKE, I'M NOTHING. 21:40 I'M GONE. I'M DEAD. 21:41 THIS IS WHY WE NEED THE LORD TO BE OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. 21:44 >> UH-HUH. >> THERE'S NO OTHER WAY. 21:49 AND THE REASON THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR VIEWERS, IS OVER AND 21:53 OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU MEET PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO 21:57 PUT THAT POLE IN, AND GET UP OVER THAT BAR. 22:00 >> YEAH. >> AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND 22:02 THAT -- THAT YOU ARE STRUGGLING WITH SOMETHING THAT JESUS HAS 22:05 ALREADY ACCOMPLISHED FOR YOU. >> YEAH. 22:07 >> HE HAS GIVEN YOU THE GIFT OF SALVATION. 22:11 YOU HAVE THE GIFT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. 22:13 SO THE STRUGGLE IS NOT SO MUCH THAT YOU NEED TO GAIN SALVATION. 22:17 THE STRUGGLE IS YOU NEE TO SURRENDER YOUR LIFE TO GOD. 22:22 ACCEPT THAT SALVATION -- AND IF YOU THINK THAT'S EASY, IT'S NOT. 22:26 BECAUSE WE WANT TO PLAY OUR PART, DO OUR PART, CONTRIBUTE, 22:29 OKAY? WE HAVE THAT THING, AND JUST TO 22:31 MAKE THAT SURRENDER, BUT WHEN YOU MAKE THAT SURRENDER, THRE'S 22:35 POWER THERE. >> YES. 22:37 >> SATAN FEARS -- THERE'S NOTHING HE FEARS SO MUCH AS WE 22:43 WILL SEE CHRIST AS OUR TOTAL RIGHTEOUSNESS. 22:46 BECAUSE WHEN WE SEE THAT, WE WILL LIVE DIFFERENTLY. 22:50 WE WILL LIVE FOR CHRIST, BECAUSE IT WILL BE OFF OF OUR SHOULDER, 22:53 AND REALIZE OUR SALVATION IS TAKEN CARE OF IN CHRIST, AND NOW 22:59 OUR JOB IS TO SHARE WITH OTHERS THIS WONDERFUL GIFT OF THE 23:03 SALVATION, AND WE WANT TO DO THAT BY LIVING OUT LOVE IN OUR 23:10 LIVES. THE MOTIVATION TO LIVING OUT 23:12 LOVE IS TO WITNESS AND GLORIFY GOD. 23:16 >> I'M LISTENING TO WHAT YOU SAY. 23:19 THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE -- I REMEMBER I WAS WATCHING 3ABN IN 23:23 PANAMA, AND A QUESTION CAME IN, AND I WOMAN WAS SAYING, I DON'T 23:26 FEEL THIS. I DON'T FEEL THE PRESENSE OF 23:29 JESUS. I DON'T FEEL LIKE I CAN MAKE IT. 23:33 I DON'T FEEL WORTHY. AND WHAT OCCURS TO ME, JAMES, IS 23:38 GIVEN WHAT YOU SAID, WE LOOKED AT FOUR -- I USE THE TERM 23:43 WORTHIES, EXCELLENT PEOPLE. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK 23:48 ABOUT YOURSELF. >> UH-HUH. 23:50 >> IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU THINK YOU ARE GREAT OR IF YOU 23:53 THINK YOU ARE NOTHING, NEITHER ONE OF THOSE -- THOSE ARE BOTH 24:00 ILLUSIONS. WHAT WE NEED TO PRAY FOR IS 24:03 LORD, LET ME SEE JESUS. >> UH-HUH. 24:05 >> BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE ISSUES WILL LEVEL THEMSELVES IN THE 24:09 LIGHT OF WHO WE ARE IN CHRIST JESUS. 24:12 >> AMEN. >> WHETHER YOU THINK HIGHLY OF 24:15 YOURSELF OR NOTHING OF YOURSELF, YOU ARE GOING TO BE HUMBLED WHEN 24:20 YOU SEE JESUS AS HE REALLY IS, AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHERE YOU 24:23 NEED TO BE, BECAUSE THEN YOUR GROWTH CAN START. 24:26 WHEN -- WHEN YOU REALIZE THERE IS NOTHING IN ME, NOTHING I 24:30 HAVE, NOTHING I AM, NOTHING I BRING TO THE TABLE. 24:35 I JUST NEED TO CLING TO THE HEM OF HIS GARMENT AND THE HEALING 24:39 STARTS THERE. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR 24:42 HISTORY IS, JUST GRAB ON TO JESUS. 24:45 >> AMEN. >> AND THE GROWTH STARTS THERE. 24:48 >> ALL RIGHT. LET'S LOOK AT THAT. 24:54 HEBREWS 11. SO LET'S LEEK AT OUR HISTORY. 24:57 LET'S LOOK AT OUR STORY.-pWE LOOKED AT FOUR PEOPLE AND JUST SELECTED THEM. 25:02 WE JUST PULLED THEM OUT, AND I REMEMBER I SAID I'M SO GLAD THAT 25:10 THE WHOLE BIBLE ISN'T THE BOOK OF DANIEL, BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE 25:15 TO WALK AWAY.-pBUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT HEBREWS 11, AND I LOVE THIS, BECAUSE IT'S 25:22 WHAT WE CALL THE HALL OF FAITH CHAPTER. 25:25 OKAY? AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE SAVED BY 25:28 GRACE THRUGH FAITH.-WE'RE HIS WORKMANSHIP, AND OUR SOL VA-- SALVATION IS WITH JESUS. 25:41 HERE IS HOW IT GETS REAL PRACTICAL, THIS PERSON THAT IS 25:46 STRUGGLING. THE BIBLE IS FULL -- HEBREWS 11 25:50 GOES THROUGH AND RECOUNTS FOR US THE EXPERIENCES OF GOD'S 25:55 FAITHFUL PEOPLE IN THE PAST. >> UH-HUH. 25:57 >> NOW IT'S INTERESTING TO ME, I THINK, THAT DANIEL ISN'T 26:02 MENTIONED HERE, JOB DIDN'T MENTIONED HERE, THE REASON 26:06 THAT'S INTERESTING -- ENOCH IS MENTIONED. 26:12 BUT THEN YOU GET INTO, FOR EXAMPLE NOAH. 26:16 PREACHED FOR 120 YEARS, BUT NOAH HAD HIS PROBLEMS TOO. 26:21 HE GOT DRUNK AND -- AND ABRAHAM HAD HIS PROBLEMS TOO. 26:27 HE LIED ABOUT SARAH BEING HIS SISTER TWICE? 26:32 >> YES. >> AND IT CONTINUES ON HERE. 26:34 YOU LOOK THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST. YOU HAVE ONE PERSON AFTER 26:37 ANOTHER THAT ACTUALLY WHEN YOU READ THEIR LIVES -- JACOB FOR 26:42 EXAMPLE, THE GUY WAS JUST A DESERVER. 26:45 I LOOKING IN VERSUS 21. ISAAC ALSO. 26:48 YOU LOOK AT MOSES GOING DOWN TOWARDS VERSES 23, 24, WHO 26:53 KILLED THE EGYPTIAN AND HID HIM IN TH SAND, AND THEN IT GOES ON 26:58 AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE GOT RAHAB, VERSUS 31. 27:08 IT CALLS HER THE HARLOT, AND THEN YOU HAVE WHAT MORE CAN I 27:13 TELL YOU? WHAT ABOUT DAVID AND SAMUEL AND 27:16 THE PROPHETS AND -- AND YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE NAMES -- 27:20 >> EVERYBODY HAS SKID MARKS ON THEIR RECORD TOO BY THE WAY. 27:23 >> OH, THAT'S THE POINT. THAT'S THE POINT. 27:26 >> YEAH. >> WHEN I FIRST READ HEBREWS 11. 27:29 I WAS LIKE SAMPSON? >> YEAH. 27:33 >> SAMPSON -- LIKE DID THEY GE THAT RIGHT? 27:36 SAMPSON? HE'S THERE? 27:38 REALLY? WHAT? 27:39 AND I'M THINKING, BUT HERE IS THE DEAL. 27:44 THESE GUYS IN HEBREWS 11 HAVE NO RECORD OF ANY FAILURE. 27:50 WHEN YOU READ HEBREWS 11, THERE'S NO -- THERE'S NO 27:55 RECORDED ERROR HERE. THESE GUYS LOOK LIKE DANIEL, AND 28:01 JOB AND JOHN. THERE'S NO RECORDED ERROR. 28:04 IT'S ALL POSITIVE. >> YEAH. 28:06 >> BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT OUR LIFE LOOKS LIKE IN CHRIST. 28:09 >> WELL SAID. WHEN CHRIST IS OUR 28:12 RIGHTEOUSNESS, THIS IS -- WHE PEOPLE ASK ME ABOUT BEING 28:17 JUDGED, I SAY READ HEBREWS 11. WHEN GOD RECORDS YOUR NAME, WHEN 28:22 HE IS RECORDING YOUR HISTORY IN THE INVESTIGATIVE JUDGMENT, IF 28:26 YOU TRUST IN CHRIST AS YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS THIS IS WHAT YOUR 28:29 HISTORY LOOKS LIKE. JUST ADD YOUR NAME HERE. 28:32 HEBREWS 11. AND I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID -- YOU 28:35 SAID WE HAVE GOT TO REMEMBER THESE GUYS HAVE SOME TRACKS, BUT 28:42 APPARENTLY IT'S NOT HERE. WHEN GOD WRITES UP THE 28:45 RECORD -- WHICH HE JUST DID -- WHEN HE WRITES UP THE 28:49 RECORD -- >> YEAH. 28:51 >> OKAY? WHEN HE WRITES UP THE BOOK, ALL 28:53 OF THE TRACKS ARE GONE. >> A LOT OF EDITORIAL. 28:57 AND WHO CAME DOWN TO COMFORT CHRIST? 28:59 MOW CUSS AND ELIJAH. MAJOR LESSONS IN FAITH. 29:06 COMFORTING, COMFORTING HIM NOW. I'M SO GLD YOU WENT TO HEBREWS 29:10 11, BECAUSE THE LAST TWO VERSES ARE ONES THAT -- WHEN I FIRST 29:15 READ THEM, I GOT UP AND I JUST WALKED AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE. 29:25 IT'S LIKE -- [ LAUGHTER ] 29:26 >> THEY WITHOUT US -- WE ALL GET IT AT THE SAME TIME. 29:30 SO THAT'S HOPEFOR ME. WHEN I LOOK AT THESE -- CAN I 29:34 SAY JAMES SANITIZED RECORDS, OR AS GOD SEES THEM, THE FACT THAT 29:39 I GET MINE WHEN THEY GET THEIRS, GOD IS GOING TO DO THE SAME 29:43 THING FOR ME. THAT IS SO EXCITING. 29:45 >> IT IS. >> IT MAKES RIGHTEOUSNESS BY 29:50 FAITH VERY, VERY REAL. BECAUSE I KNOW MY WARTS. 29:53 I KNOW I HAVE ISSUES, BUT I ALSO HAVE JESUS. 29:57 AND THE BLOOD OF CHRIST DOES CLEANSE ALL SINS. 30:01 >> WE HAVE TO GET TO AN IMPORTANT QUESTION BEFORE WE 30:04 CLOSE UP. IT'S LUKE 18. 30:06 I CAN HEAR PEOPLE -- I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, BECAUSE I ASKED 30:10 THE SAME QUESTION, I WAS LIKE HOW DO YOU KNOW? 30:13 HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE TRUSTING CHRIST'S RIGHTEOUSNESS, 30:17 BECAUSE THE HARDEST THING -- PAUL DIDN'T KNOW IT. 30:21 THE GUY DIDN'T KNOW. HE THOUGHT HE WAS BLAMELESS 30:24 BEFORE THE LAW. HE DID'T KNOW. 30:26 >> HE DIDN'T KNOW. >> AND I SPEND TIME WITH CHRIST. 30:30 I OPEN MY BIBLE. MAYBE I'M SELF DECEIVED. 30:34 WE HAVE A BIG ISSUE IN THE CHURCH. 30:36 WE THINK WE'RE IN NEED OF NOTHING. 30:38 WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE ARE BLIND AND POOR AND [ INAUDIBLE ]. 30:43 SO HOW CAN YOU KNOW PRACTICALLY SPEAKING. 30:47 FAITH BEING THE OPER OPERATIVE -- WORD, SO LUKE 8 AND 30:59 9. >> I TELL YOU THAT HE WILL 31:02 AVENGE THEM SPEED ILLY. NEVERTHELESS WHEN THE SON OF MAN 31:10 COMES WILL HE REALLY FIND FAITH ON TH EARTH. 31:15 ALSO HE SPOKE A PARABLE TO SOME THAT TRUSTED IN THEMSELVES THAT 31:24 THEY WERE RIGHTEOUSNESS AND DESPISED OTHERS. 31:26 >> BOOM. LET'S BREAK THIS UP. 31:29 THE POINT IN VERSE 8 WAS WHEN THE SON OF MAN COMES IS HE GOING 31:34 TO FIND FAITH? JESUS IS ASKING THIS. 31:37 AND WHAT HE IS REALLY SAYING IS -- IS HE GOING TO FIND PEOPLE 31:41 WHO BELIEVE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH? 31:43 >> UH-HUH. >> IS THAT POSSIBLE? 31:45 AND THEN HE SAYS -- AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL -- HE TIES IN -- HE IS 31:49 ABOUT TO GIVE A PARABLE OF HOW IT THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND 31:53 RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. THINK OF THE PARABLE OF THE 31:57 PUBLIC AND THE FREROTTESY. AND HE SAYS -- HOW CAN WE KNOW 32:07 IF WE'RE TRUSTING OURSELVES OR IF WE ARE TRUSTING IN CHRIST'S 32:12 RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH? WILL HE FIND FAITH ON EARTH? 32:16 LET ME TELL YOU A STORY OF PEOPLE WHO TRUST IN THEMSELVES 32:21 BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHTEOUSNESS. THE KEY TO TRUSTING -- TO 32:24 KNOWING IF YOU ARE TRUSTING IN YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE 32:28 RIGHTEOUSNESS IS FOUND IN VERSUS 9. 32:30 I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAUGHT IT. AND HE SPOKE THIS PARABLE UNDER 32:35 CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED THEMSELVES THAT THEY WERE 32:38 RIGHTEOUSNESS. >> AND DIS -- DESPISE OTHERS. 32:45 >> IF YOU WANT KNOW IF YO ARE TRUSTING IN YOURSELF, IT'S YOUR 32:50 ATTITUDE TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE. >> YEAH. 32:51 >> THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE GREATEST CHRISTIANS IN THIS 32:54 WORLD ARE THE DOWN AND OUTERS. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN BROKEN. 32:58 PEOPLE WHO ARE DYSFUNCTIONAL. PEOPLE WHO HAVE BE IT THE 33:02 BOTTOM. YOU FINE THEM IN AA MEETINGS, 33:06 AND CELEBRATE RECOVERY MEETINGS, YOU FIND THEM IN THE LOW-INCOME 33:12 HOUSING, AND ON THE STREETS. THEY HIT THE BOTTOM AND THEY 33:15 DON'T JUST IN THEMSELVES THAT THEY ARE RIGHTEOUSNESS.-THEY JUST DON'T. 33:22 THE PEOPLE THAT TRUST THEMSELVES THAT THEY ARE RIGHTEOUSNESS ARE 33:26 THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE RELIGION, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRUTH, THE 33:30 PEOPLE THAT HAVE DOCTRINE. >> UH-HUH. 33:36 >> WHEN YOU ARE A DOWN AND OUTER, ALL YOU DEPEND UPON IS 33:42 GRACE. >> EXACTLY. 33:43 >> IF YOU DEPEND UPON YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, YOU LOOK AT OTHER 33:47 PEOPLE, AND YOU ARE LIKE, THEY ARE NOT DOING IT. 33:50 LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE DRESS. LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ABOUT. 33:55 WHENEVER WE DESPITE -- DESPISE OTHERS, IT'S A REMINDER THAT 34:04 JESUS IS SAYING IF YOU WANT TO KNOW IF YOU ARE TRUSTING IN ME 34:08 OR TRUSTING IN YOURSELF, THINK ABOUT THE WAY YOU JUDGE OTHERS, 34:12 YOU THINK ABOUT OTHERS, AND HAVE TAUGHTS TOWARDS OTHERS, BECAUSE 34:18 THAT IS GOING TO BE AN INDICATION. 34:21 >> AND JOHN DOES NOT STATE IT THUSLY, BUT HE INTIMATES IT, THE 34:27 IDEA THAT YOU NEVER KNOW THAT JESUS IS ALL YOU NEED UNTIL 34:31 JESUS IS ALL YOU HAVE GOT. AND ONCE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU 34:37 UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR VALUE IS IN CHRIST. 34:39 SO IF YOU NEED A QUICK LITMUS TEST -- 34:42 >> YES. >> -- HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THOSE 34:45 TWO DISAGREE WITH YOU, WHO DON'T WALK THE WAY YOU WALK, OR WHO 34:52 MAY BE OPPOSED TO YOU -- >> YEAH. 34:56 YOU GET THEM. I GET THEM. 34:58 EMAILS OR ONE ON ONES, WHATEVER IT IS, PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE 35:05 US, THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT WE'RE TEACHING. 35:08 MAYBE THEY ARE FELLOW MEMBERS, MAYBE NOT. 35:11 ALL OF THE TIME IT IS HAPPENING. I HAD A GUY -- THE MAIN THING I 35:23 ALWAYS ASK PEOPLE WHEN NEIRS INQUIRE TO ME IS WHAT IS OUR 35:28 EMPHASIS ON CHRIST? BECAUSE THE JOB OF THE PASTOR, 35:35 CHRIST HAS TO BEEN AT THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING. 35:38 AND HE DIDN'T LIKE THAT. HE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO 35:41 WITH THAT. HE WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU 35:43 ARE NOT ASKING ME QUESTIONS. I'M ASKING YOU QUESTION. 35:46 I WANT YOU TO EVALUATE MY PROPHECIES AND VISIONS, BUT I 35:51 DON'T WANT DO YOU ASK ME IF I'M PREACHING CHRIST. 35:54 AND I'M LIKE, WELL, NO, LET'S JUST HAVE A RELATIONSHIP 35:58 HERE -- NO, IT WAS DONE. AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, HE 36:02 WAS POSTING STUFF. I ASKED HIM THIS -- AND THE 36:08 ADVENTIST PASTORS, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. 36:13 I LIKE THAT I'M BE BEING -- CRITICIZED BECAUSE I'M 36:21 ASKING PEOPLE HOW MUCH THEY ARE PREACHING CHRIST. 36:28 BUT IF YOU ARE CRITICIZING ME BECAUSE I'M ASKING YOU ABOUT 36:31 YOUR EMPHASIS ON CHRIST, BECAUSE TO ME WHEN YOU GET CHRIST RIGHT, 36:35 YOU GET PROPHECY RIGHT. >> CORRECT. 36:37 >> BUT HERE IS THE PRACTICAL PART FOR YOU AND ME. 36:45 DO YOU EVER WRITE AN EMAIL IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT, SIT ON 36:49 IT FORA COUPLE OF DAYS, AND GO BACK AND REALIZE, THIS NEEDS 36:55 MAJOR EDITING. >> YEAH. 36:58 YEAH. >> YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? 36:59 >> YEAH. >> I WROTE IT, SO I THOUGHT IT. 37:02 >> UH-HUH. >> SO EVEN THOUGH I'M GOING TO 37:07 EDITED NOW, I STILL THOUGHT IT. >> YEAH. 37:10 >> SO I KNOW THAT I STRUGGLE. I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE TALK TO ME, I 37:15 HAVE THESE THINGS THAT ARE COMING, SO I KNOW I NEED JESUS. 37:19 SO WHEN I LOOK AT LUKE 18, AND IT SAYS THOSE THAT TRUST 37:25 THEMSELVES THAT THEY ARE RIGHTEOUSNESS DESPISE OTHERS, I 37:29 LOVE THAT. BECAUSE TO ME IT'S A LITMUS 37:32 TEST. IT'S LIKE, NOW I CAN KNOW. 37:35 WE'RE CONTINUALLY FALLING INTO SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND THAT'S 37:39 OKAY, AS LONG AS WE DON'T [ INAUDIBLE ] OURSELVES. 37:42 >> YES. >> AS LONG AS WE'RE READY TO 37:45 TAKE A LOOK AT THE LITMUS TEST, AND SAY WHO DID I CRITICIZE 37:51 TODAY? AND WE CAN JUSTIFY ALL OF IT. 37:54 BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, NO MATTER HOW HE RESPONDED TO ME, 37:58 DO I LOVE THE BROTHER? >> YES. 37:59 >> YEAH. >> AND IN MY HEART OF HEARTS, 38:02 I'M SAYING NO, I DONT LIKE THAT AT ALL. 38:06 I'M NO HAPPY THAT HE IS SAYING THINGS ABOUT ME, BUT GOD CAN 38:10 GIVE ME THAT LOVE, AND I CAN BE GOOD WITH IT. 38:14 AND SOME DAY MAYBE WE'LL RECONNECT, OR IN HEAVEN MAYBE 38:20 WE'LL GET IT FIGURED OUT. BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS 38:25 GOING NOVEMBER US THROUGH OUR JOU 38:30 JOURNEY APART OR TOGETHER. EVENTUALLY IT'S LIKE -- I CAN 38:35 USE JOHN MARK AFTER ALL. I GET IT. 38:38 WE'RE HUMAN. AND SOMETIMES I'VE BEEN IN THOSE 38:45 CONVERSATIONS, AND I LIKE, DOES HE FOCUS ON JESUS. 38:55 IN THE END WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND BE QUIET IF WE'RE NOT 38:59 FOCUSING ON THE ONE, JESUS CHRIST. 39:02 HE IS THE ONE THAT BRINGS IT ALL TOGETHER, AND, YOU KNOW, TO ME, 39:06 THAT'S VITAL. THROWING OUT OPTIONS IS NOT AN 39:09 OPTION. THAT'S ONE ROUTE THAT I SEE US 39:12 TAKING SOMETIMES. I'M NOT SAYING EVERYONE DOES 39:16 THAT, BUT A LOT OF US ARE DOING THAT. 39:18 THE OTHER OPTION IS THE DOCTRINE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT 39:21 THING -- NO, IT'S JESUS THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 39:24 >> YEAH, AND IT WOULD BE DEPRESSING IF WE JUST SAID THE 39:31 SPECTER OF ME CAN DEPRESS ME. ROMANCE 8:1, HE IS NOT -- AND I 39:36 TOLD SOMEONE THIS JUST SOMETIME AGO. 39:37 I SAID SEE YOU ARE FUNCTIONING UNDER THE IDEA THAT HE IS TRYING 39:42 TO FIND A REASON TO KEEP YOU OUT. 39:44 >> YES, THAT'S IT. >> NO, HE IS TRYING TO FIND 39:49 EVERY EXCUSE TO GET YOU IN. SO IF YOU WILL LET GO OF 39:53 YOURSELF AND SEE JESUS -- AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, SO WE 39:56 CLOSE THE CIRCLE. THE PRAYER SHOULD BE, LORD, GIVE 40:00 ME A VISION OF THE KING AND THE COMING KINGDOM, AND IF I GET MY 40:06 PERSPECTIVE RIGHT AS TO WHO JESUS IS, AND WHAT HE WANS TO 40:09 DO FOR ME, WITH ME, TO ME, AND THROUGH ME, THEN I CAN BE HONEST 40:15 WITH MYSELF AND ACCEPT THE FACT THAT I'M NOT CONDEMNED. 40:18 >> UH-HUH? >> RIGHTEOUSNESS IS A GOAL, BUT 40:21 HE WANTS IT TO BE PART OF ME, NOT THAT BAR THAT I'M TRYING TO 40:26 CLIMB, BUT A PART OF ME. >> YES. 40:28 >> IT'S PART OF WHAT HE WANTS FOR ME. 40:30 >> YES. >> AND HE IS NOT CONDEMNING ME. 40:34 SO I DON'T NEED TO CONDEMN MYSELF. 40:37 >> THAT'S WHAT I HOPE WE FOREIGNING HERE. 40:39 LET'S SUMMARIZE. SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT FOUR GUYS, 40:42 WE IDENTIFIED THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHT DOING, AND WE NOTED 40:46 THAT ONLY CHRIST DID IT. HE WAS SINLESS, HE WAS PERFECT. 40:50 AND THAT PERFECTION WHAT THE LAW DEMANDS NOTHING SHORT OF THAT. 40:54 >> CORRECT. >> ONLY PERFECT PERFECTION MEETS 40:59 THE STANDARD OF THE LAW. SO BECAUSE WE CAN'T MEET THAT 41:03 STANDARD, CHRIST MEETS IT FOR US. 41:05 AND BECAUSE HE MEETS IT FOR US, WE ARE GIFTED THAT AND IT 41:09 TRANSFORMS US. SO YOU SEE THES GUYS -- IN THE 41:13 OLD TESTAMENT YOU SEE JOB. HE IS SOCIALLY PERFECT. 41:16 AND THEN YOU ZEIDAN -- SEE DANIEL, AND HE IS POLITICALLY 41:24 PERFECT. AND PAUL WAS RELIGIOUSLY 41:28 DOCTRINALLY PERFECT, BUT IT DECEIVED HIM, BUT THEN OF COURSE 41:31 HE CONSIDERS THAT RUBBISH -- ACTUALLY THE WORD 41:34 RUBBISH IN ONE OF THOSE TRANSLATIONS MEANS DAMAGE. 41:39 IT DAMAGED HIM. SO IN A RELIGIOUS SENSE IT CAN 41:43 BE DAMAGING, AND WE SEE THESE EXAMPLES -- WE BRING THEM ALL 41:49 TOGETHER, THE -- THE SOCIAL PERFECTION, THE POLITICAL 41:53 PERFECTION, THE RELIGIOUS PERFECTION, WE BRING IT ALL 41:56 TOGETHER IN THE BOOK OF HEBREWS 11. 41:59 AND WE REALIZED THAT THE WHOLE GROUP OF US, THE WHOLE GANG OF 42:08 PEOPLE FROM ADAM AND EVE TO THE OLD TESTAMENT ALL THE WAY TO 42:13 THEN, ALL OF US ARE SAVED BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH. 42:18 AND THAT ALL OF THE SKID MARKS, RIGHT, ALL OF THE TRACKS ARE 42:22 GONE -- >> ARE GONE. 42:24 >> -- IN JESUS. BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT AS WE 42:28 MAKE THIS JOURNEY WITH JOB AND DANIEL AND PAUL AND JOHN, THAT 42:32 WE'RE GOING TO COME TO PLACES IN OUR LIVES WHERE WE FEEL LIKE 42:36 WE'RE OVERWHELMED BY THE FACT THAT WE DON'T MEASURE UP, AND IT 42:40 COULD CAUSE US TO JUST FALL OVER, KEEL OVER. 42:43 DANIEL DID, JOB DID. AND WE CAN FEEL THAT WAY, AND 42:47 IT'S AT THAT POINT THAT SATAN WANTS TO OVERWHELM US WITH GUILT 42:52 AND SHAME. BUT THAT'S WHY HE IS THE LORD 42:58 OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO FEED 43:00 THE FLOCK, AND THE THING THEY ARE GOING TO FEED THEM ARE 43:06 RIGHTEOUSNESS. AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME 43:07 BACK TO THE CHURCH. FAMILIES WILL BE REUNITED, 43:12 CHURCHES WILL BE REUNITED, CHURCHES WILL BE REUNITED AND 43:17 THAT FREES US UP FROM DESPISING, JUDGING, CRITICIZING. 43:22 RIGHT? >> AND CONDEMNING. 43:24 >> WE NO LONGER TRUST IN OURSELVES, WE TRUST IN CHRIST, 43:29 SO WE CAN BE GRACIOUS TO OTHERS. NOW WE WANT TO BEAR ONE 43:36 ANOTHER'S BURDENS. >> YES. 43:40 >> WE BRING THT WHOLE PICTURE TOGETHER IN REVELATION 7. 43:45 WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE SAVED. AND A QUESTION IS ASKED IN 43:50 REVELATION 6, HEN JESUS IS RETURNING, AND ALL OF THE WICKED 43:54 ARE RUNNING FOR THE CAVES AND ROCKS AND MOUNTAINS, AND WANT 44:01 THEM TO FALL ON TOP OF THEM. AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN'T 44:05 STAND BEFORE THE THROWN AND THE LAMB. 44:07 THAT'S THE STATEMENT THEY MAKE IN REVELATION 6, THE RICH MEN, 44:12 THE CHIEF CAPTAINS, THE MIGHTY MAN, THE FREE MAN, THEY HIDE 44:18 THEMSELVES AND THEY SAID FALL ON US AND HIDE US FROM THE FACE OF 44:21 HIM THAT SITS ON THE THROWN AND FROM THE WRATH OF THE LAMB. 44:27 WHO SHALL BE ABLE TO STAND BEFORE THE THROWN AND BEFORE THE 44:32 LAMB? THAT'S THE QUESTION. 44:35 REVELATION 6, THE 7 SEAL DOESN'T-pCOME YET. BETWEEN THE 6TH AND THE 7TH SEAL 44:42 IS THE INTERRUPTION -- THIS INTERLUDE, IF YOU WILL OF HOPE 44:46 THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. THE WHOLE CHAPTER, CHAPTER 7 IS 44:51 GIVEN TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT IS -- IS -- 44:54 >> GIVEN IN 6. >> YEAH. 44:58 SO WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND? 45:01 THE FIRST ANSWER IS THE 144,000. AND REVELATION 22:4 SAYS 45:07 EVERYONE THAT GOES TO HEAVEN HAS TO BE SEALED WITH THE SEAL OF 45:10 GOD. >> UH-HUH. 45:11 >> THE SECOND PART OF THE ANSWER COMES BEGINNING VERSUS 9. 45:17 READ REVELATION 7:9-10. >> AFTER THESE THINGS I LOOKED 45:23 AND BEHOLD, A GREAT MULTITUDE WHICH NO ONE COULD NUMBER OF ALL 45:30 NATIONS, TRIBES, PEOPLES AND TONGUES, STANDING BEEN THE 45:35 THROWN AND THE LAMB CLOTHED IN WHITE ROBES AN PALM BRANCHES IN 45:40 THEIR HAND. AND CRYING OUT SAYING SALVATION 45:44 BELONGS TO OUR GOD WHO SITS ON THE THROWN -- I'M GLAD I HELD MY 45:48 PEACE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAID THE 144,000 I WAS GOING TO SAY DON'T 45:54 FORGET -- [ LAUGHTER ] 45:55 >> SO HERE IS THE DEAL CA. THIS IS A SUMMARY. 46:00 TO ME REVELATION, WE'RE SUMMARIZING THE BIG PICTURE. 46:05 JOHN WANTS TO KNOW WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND BEFORE THE 46:08 THROWN AND BEFORE THE LAMB. SO GOD INTERRUPTS THE WHOLE 46:12 PROCESS OF SEALS -- THE SEVENTH SEAL SHOULD HAVE COME NEXT, BUT 46:20 PROPHECY IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS SALVATION. 46:23 AND WE NEED ASSURANCE HERE, WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND. 46:26 SO HE SAYS FIRST OF ALL, IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE FROM EVERY 46:33 NATION, MULTITUDE, AND TONGE. SO GOD ISN'T SELECTING A CERTAIN 46:38 COLOR GROUP OR PEDIGREE OR RACE OF PEOPLE. 46:41 >> UH-HUH. >> SECONDLY THE PEOPLE THAT 46:47 GRAND BEFORE THE THROWN AND THE LAMB, ARE THOSE WHO CRY WITH A 46:52 LOUD VOICE. >> YES. 46:54 >> THIS HAS GOT TO BE LOUD, AND I DON'T MEAN VOLUME, I MEAN 46:59 CLEAR. WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS SOMETHING 47:01 LOUD IT'S BECAUSE THEY ARE CLEAR. 47:03 IT GRABS YOUR ATTENTION. YOU HEAR IT. 47:07 [ LAUGHTER ] >> IF I'M WHISPERING NO ONE IS 47:09 GOING TO HEAR ME. WHEN I'M SAYING IT CLEARLY, 47:12 THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS BY LOUD. SALVATION TO OUR [ INAUDIBLE ]. 47:21 >> I DON'T THINK IT'S -- >> VEGETARIAN LIFESTYLE -- NO 47:26 SALVATION TO OUR GOD, RIGHT? >> TO OUR GOD, YES, SIR. 47:29 >> THESE GUYS FIGURED IT OUT. WHEN WE GET DOWN TO THE VERY 47:36 END, WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT. 47:39 BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO REALIZE THERE IS NO WAY QUESTION CAN 47:44 ACTUALLY HAVE, PROCURE, PRODUCE AND GIVE TO GOD THE 47:48 RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWS US TO STAND BEFORE HIS 47:54 LAW BLAMELESS. ONLY CHRIST HAS PRODUCED THAT. 47:58 >> HUM. >> WHEN WE SAY THAT A LOT OF 48:01 PEOPLE SAY, I GIVE UP THEN. IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE. 48:05 >> NO. THE POINT OF THAT IS WHEN YOU 48:08 ACTUALLY EMBRACE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF JESUS CHRIST IT 48:11 RELAXES YOU, AND YOU LIVE A BETTER LIFE. 48:15 YOU ARE A BETTER CHRISTIAN. YOU LOVE PEOPLE AND LOVE GOD 48:19 WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART BETTER WHEN YOU GIVE CHRIST THE WORK 48:23 THAT ONLY HE CAN DO. >> YES. 48:25 >> IT'S WHEN WE TAKE UPON OURSELVES THE WORK THAT GOD 48:29 NEVER GAVE US TO DO, LOOK AT PAUL, AND LOOK AT HOW HE TREATED 48:33 THE CHRISTIANS. >> PRECISELY, YEAH. 48:38 >> SO WE GET TO THAT PLACE. NOW I WAN -- I WANTED US TO LOOK 48:43 AT ONE STATEMENT HERE THAT I WANTED TO -- TO EMPHASIZE, 48:47 BECAUSE I WANT TO GET JUST -- JUST TO GET REALLY CLEAR 48:50 ON THIS. THIS STATEMENT IS FOUND IN THE 48:53 BOOK GREAT CONTROVERSY. THIS BOOK IS WRITTEN BY ELLEN 48:57 WHITE, AND IN A SENSE IT'S A COMMENTARY ON THE BOOK OF 49:01 REVELATION. AND ON PAGE 641 SHE IS TALKING 49:05 ABOUT THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE. BECAUSE WHEN REVELATION 7 IS 49:12 FINISHED, THE SEVENTH SEAL IS OPENED. 49:15 SO GOD GETS BACK TO THE PROCESSION OF PROPHECY. 49:20 SO THE QUESTION HAS BEEN ASKED, WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND 49:24 BEFORE THE THROWN AND LAMB. SEVENTH SEAL IS OPENED. 49:27 AND WHAT HAPPENS IN REVELATION 7 IS -- AND IT'S AN EXPLANATION. 49:32 BUT THE SEALING OF GOD'S PEOPLE TAKES PLACE BEFORE JESUS CAME, 49:39 SO IN THE TIME FRAME OF THE PROPHECY, THE NEXT THING THAT 49:47 HAPPENS IS THE [ INAUDIBLE ]. A LOT OF PEOPLE WONDER WHAT IS 49:51 THAT [ INAUDIBLE ] HALF HOUR. THE COMMENTARY ON REVELATION 49:55 THAT I WILL EVEN FOLLOW, THE GREAT CONTROVERSY TELLS US WHAT 49:59 THAT SILENCE IS. DO YOU WANT TO HEAR IT? 50:01 >> YEAH. >> IT SAYS BEFORE HIS PRESENCE, 50:05 CHRIST PRESENCE, WHEN HE IS COMING, ALL FACES ARE TURNED 50:09 INTO PAILNESS, UPON THE RE-JEBBING FOR OF GOD'S MERCY 50:15 FALLS THE TERROR OF ETERNAL DESPAIR. 50:19 THE FACE ALL GATHER BLACKNESS. EVERYONE GATHERS PAILNESS. 50:25 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A PALE FACE. 50:34 THE RIGHTEOUSNESS CRY WITH TREMBLING, WHO SHALL BE ABLE TO 50:40 STAND. >> UH-HUH. 50:41 >> I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST THE WAKED THAT TRIED THAT. 50:46 WHO SHALL BE ABLE TO STAND? THE ANGEL'S SONG IS HUSHED, AND 50:51 THERE IS A PERIOD OF AWFUL SILENCE. 50:55 THEN AS WE'RE STANDING BEFORE CHRIST -- HE'S COMING IN THE 51:00 CLOUDS -- HE DOESN'T TOUCH THE GROWN. 51:03 WE MEET HIM IN THE AIR. AS WE SEE THAT, EVERYONE IS 51:06 LOOKING UP, THE FACING OF THE WICKED GATHER BLACKNESS, THE 51:14 FACES OF THE RIGHTEOUSNESS GATHER PALENESS. 51:21 AND THEN THERE IS THIS AWFUL MOMENT OF SILENCE, BECAUSE GOD 51:25 IS GIVING US A MOMET TO REFLECT TO SEE IF THERE IS ANYONE EVEN 51:31 AMONG THE RIGHTEOUSNESS WHO WILL SAY, I CAN STAND. 51:35 I WENT ALL THE WAY WITH MY VEGAN DIET. 51:39 I'M TRANSLATABLE. BUT NOBODY SAYS ANYTHING. 51:43 EVERYONE IS HAVING A DANIEL EXPERIENCE, JOB EXPERIENCE, PAUL 51:50 EXPERIENCE, JOHN EXPERIENCE. THEY REALIZE THEY CAN'T MEASURE 51:54 UP TO THE LAW. THERE IT IS. 51:56 THERE IS THE STANDARD. THERE IS CHRIST. 51:58 SO THEY ARE JUST QUIET. JOB SAID I SPOKE ONC, BUT NOW I 52:06 SPEAK NO MORE. JOHN SAYS I'M DEAD. 52:08 THEY ARE JUST QUIET. THIS IS A SUMMATION OF 52:11 EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT. 52:13 AND THEN NOTICE WHAT HAPPENS -- THIS IS BEAUTIFUL. 52:16 THIS IS BEAUTIFUL. BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO 52:19 DANIEL. SAME THING HAPPENED. 52:21 THE ANGEL'S SONG IS HUSHED. THERE'S A PERIOD OF AWFUL 52:25 SILENCE, THEN THE VOICE OF JESUS IS HEARD. 52:29 MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT FOR YOU. THE FACES OF THE RIGHTEOUSNESS 52:34 ARE LIGHTED UP, AND JOY FILLS EVERY HEART, THE ANGELS STRIKE A 52:40 NOTE HIGHER AND SING AGAIN AS THEY DRAW STILL NEARER TO THE 52:45 EARTH. THEN WE FEEL OUR FEET LEAVE 52:49 TERRA FIRMA AND UP WE GO. >> WHEEVER SOMEONE WAS 52:54 OVERWHELMED WITH A SENSE OF INEFFICIENCY THAT WAS THEIR 52:59 NATURAL RESPONSE. CHRIST'S NATURAL RESPONSE IS IT 53:02 IS OKAY, STAND UP AND COME WITH ME. 53:12 >> YEAH, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE, WE REALIZE WHY 53:17 THE LORD IS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. >> UH-HUH. 53:19 >> IN THE PROGRAM WE'RE HAVING, IT'S FOUR DAYS A WEEK, MONDAY 53:23 THROUGH THURSDAY, AND THE POINT OF THE PROGRAM IS TO POUR INTO 53:27 THESE 12 PEOPLE. WE START OUT AT 9:15 WITH HIS 53:33 TIME. THAT'S IN THE BIBLE RIGHT NOW, 53:35 WE'RE STUDIES HEBREWS. I WANT TO TAKE THEM THROUGH AS 53:40 MUCH OF THE BIBLE AS POSSIBLE, SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO 53:44 THROUGH BOOKS, BOOKS, BOOKS. AND IT IS GOING TO BE HITTING 53:51 THE SAME THEME FROM ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ANGLES. 53:54 THEN WE DO YOUR TIME. EACH ONE GETS AN OPPORTUNITY 53:57 DOING THIS REALITY TABLE TALK, AND IT MAY -- WE MAY HIT THREE 54:02 OR FOUR PEOPLE IN ONE MORNING, OR WE MAY HIT ONE PERSON WITH 54:06 ONE QUESTION. AND THEN WE TAE A 15 MINUTE 54:09 BREAK, AND WE COME BACK AND DO OUR TIME, WHICH IS TESTIMONY 54:14 TIME. AND THEN FRIDAY, SATUDAY, 54:17 SUNDAY, THEY ARE FINDING MINISTRY TO DO, AND SOMETIMES IN 54:20 THE EVENING. AND LOCAL CHURCHES. 54:22 WE'RE CALLING PASTORS -- THEY ARE WERE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO 54:26 HELP YOU, OUTREACH, WHATEVER. AND THEN WE HAVE PRAYER TIME AND 54:32 WE JUST PRAY ABOUT THESE EXPERIENCES AND THEN WE'RE DONE. 54:35 AND AS WE GET INTO YOUR TIME THIS QUESTION COMES UP OVER AND 54:39 OVER AGAIN. AND SO WE -- AS ADVENTISTS, WE 54:45 TALK ABOUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST, AND THE CLOSE OF 54:48 PROBATION, RIGHT? PROBATION IS GOING TO CLOSE. 54:53 OKAY? AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE GOT 54:56 TO GET TO THIS -- WHAT WE JUST READ, BECAUSE WITH ALL OF THIS, 55:00 WHEN JESUS COMES, WE HAVE BEEN SEALED, SANCTIFIED, WHEN JESUS 55:04 COMES WE'RE GOING TO SAY WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND? 55:08 >> YEAH. LET ME STOP YOU -- REAL QUICK. 55:11 I WANT TO GET TO YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF 55:15 TIME. >> OKAY. 55:15 >> LET'S GO TO THE CONTACT INFORMATION, PARTICULARLY IF YOU 55:19 WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT JAMES HAS BEEN 55:23 TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED. 56:09 >> JAMES I KIND OF CUT YOU IN MID-SENTENCE THERE. 56:12 I WANTED TO GET THAT CONTACT INFORMATION OUT THERE. 56:14 >> THANK YOU. SO IT'S A WORD OF ENCOURAGEMENT, 56:21 IF YOU FEEL OVERWHELMED NOW, HEY, DON'T LET SATAN TAKE YOU 56:27 DOWN. BECAUSE WE'RE STILL GOING TO 56:28 FEEL LIKE WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND? 56:31 >> YEAH. >> THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR 56:34 EXPERIENCE TO THE VERY END. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE LORD OUR 56:38 RIGHTEOUSNESS. >> YEAH. 56:38 WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND? 56:40 YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAND IF YOU ARE IN CHRIST 56:45 JESUS. PHILLIPIANS 2:5, SO SURRENDER TO 56:49 WHAT CHRIST HAS ALREADY DONE FOR YOU WITH YOU TO YOU AND WANTS TO 56:53 DO THROUGH YOU THROUGH THE SAVING OF OUR SOUL. 56:57 OUR TIME HAS FAST SLIPPED INTO ETERNITY. 57:01 WE WANT TO WISH YOU BOTH GRACE AND PEACE THROUGH OUR LORD AND 57:10 SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. >> AMEN. 57:11 ♪ ♪ |
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