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Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), James Rafferty

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00:02 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE, SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:06 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:18 ♪ REMOVING PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪
00:26 ♪ LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪
00:34 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
00:46 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
01:09 >> HELLO AND WELCOME ONCE AGAIN TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
01:14 MY NAME IS CA MURRAY, AND ALLOW ME TO THANK YOU FOR SHARING JUST
01:17 A LITTLE OF YOUR NO-DOUBT BUSY DAY, BUDDY -- BUSY EVENING WITH
01:28 US, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE 3ABN BROADCASTING
01:41 NEXT WORK. WE ARE DELVING INTO A SUBJECT
01:44 THAT HAS MYSTIFIED SOME AND FRIGHTENED OTHERS AS WE TALK -ABOUT THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF
01:52 CHRIST, AND WE'RE REALLY GOING TO GO -- PUT THE SHOVEL IN THE
01:56 GROUND ON THAT SUBJECT. AND THEN I'M EXCITED BECAUSE OF
02:00 MY GUEST, SOMEONE I HAVE COME TO KNOW, LOVE AND RESPECT, AND THAT
02:05 IS JAMES RAFFERTY. I WILL CALL HIM PASTOR JAMES
02:10 RAFFERTY, BECAUSE HE HAS ADDED TO HIS CONSIDERABLE PORTFOLIO,
02:17 PASTOR. HE IS AUTHOR, TEACHER, LECTURER,
02:23 AND NOW PASTOR. AND IN HIS SPARE TIME, HE DOES
02:28 NOTHING, BECAUSE HE HAS NO SPARE TIME.
02:31 >> GOOD TO BE HERE, ALWAYS. >> WE'RE JUST TALKING -- I -- I
02:35 DIDN'T CALL HIM -- I DIDN'T CALL HIM OLD FRIEND, BECAUSE WHEN YOU
02:39 GET -- WELL I DON'T KNOW HIS AGE, MY AGE, I DON'T USE THE
02:45 TERM OLD FRIEND, I SAY FRIEND OF LONG-STANDING, BUT NOT OLD
02:50 FRIEND. GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
02:52 >> GOOD TO BE HERE. >> WE BROUGHT A LITTLE SNOW
02:57 GROUR. >> YEAH, USUALLY I WOULD COME
03:01 HERE TO ESCAPE THE SNOW. BECAUSE I LIVE IN SNOW COUNTRY.
03:09 AND NOW WE LIVE IN OREGON, IN CENTRAL OREGON TOWARDS THE
03:13 COAST, EUGENE, AND WE DON'T SEE SNOW EXCEPT ON THE MOUNTAINS,
03:17 AND SO I COME OUT TO ST. LOUIS, AND I WAS CHECKING THE WEATHER
03:21 JUST TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT -- BECAUSE I HAVEN'T
03:26 DRIVEN IN SNOW IN A LONG TIME, AND THE ONE DAY I'M GOING TO BE
03:30 HERE IT SNOWED. AND THAT'S TODAY.
03:33 [ LAUGHTER ] >> SO I WAS TAKING PICTURES ON
03:36 MY WAY OUT HERE TO SEND TO MY WIFE.
03:39 [ LAUGHTER ] >> ONCE I WAS TALKING WITH TINE
03:42 AND FOR MANY YEARS YOU WERE JOINED CERTAINLY AT THE HEART IF
03:48 NOT THE HIP. ONE LIKES TO TRAVEL WITH
03:52 EVERYTHING IN ONE HAND, AND THE OTHER WITH EVERYTHING.
03:59 >> I CHECK EVERYTHING. I WANT TO WALK THE AIRPORTS.
04:04 AND TODD HAS EVERYTHING IN ONE BAG.
04:07 IT IS ALWAYS WITH HIM WHEN HE CAN GET OFF OF THE PLANE.
04:11 >> SO HE CHECKS NOTHING. YOU CHECK EVERYTHING.
04:14 >> UH-HUH. [ LAUGHTER ]
04:16 >> PRAISE THE LORD. >> I WOULD RATHER HAVE AS LITTLE
04:20 IN MY HAND -- MAYBE A BACKPACK, BUT I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF
04:24 DRAGGING STUFF -- I WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE TIME.
04:29 WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT RIGHTEOUSNESS.
04:34 BUT YOU HVE BEEN AT THIS A LITTLE WHILE.
04:39 GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND. YOU DIDN'T START OUT AS --
04:42 >> NO, I STARTED OUT AS CATHOLIC.
04:47 BORN AND RAISED ROMAN CATHOLIC. AND WAS GOING TO CATHOLIC
04:52 SCHOOL. WAS AN ALTER BOY.
04:55 DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THE BIBLE. MOVED TO THE STATES -- BECAUSE I
04:58 WAS BORN HERE, ACTUALLY CAMP PENDLETON, MY MOM AND DAD WERE
05:06 BOTH IN THE MARINE CORPS, AND THEY SEPARATED WHEN WE WERE
05:11 KIDS, AND THEN I WENT INTO COMPLETE DYSFUNCTION.
05:15 I SEPARATED FROM ANY RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION.
05:21 IN THOSE YEARS FROM ABOUT 11 THROUGH 21.
05:25 BY THE TIME I WAS 21, I WAS MOVING INTO THE ALCOHOLISM THAT
05:31 CAME TO THE FAMILY FROM MY GRANDMA AND MY DAD'S SIDE BOTH.
05:36 AND I WAS WORKING IN A HOSPITAL IN SPOKANE, WASHINGTON, I GOT ON
05:41 MY KNEES AND ASKED GOD TO COME INTO MY HEART.
05:47 AND I TOLD HIM I CAN'T STOP DRINKING.
05:50 >> SO YOU WERE A FUNCTIONING DRINKER.
05:53 >> YEAH, I WAS STILL YOUNG. I HADN'T TAKEN A SKID ROW.
05:58 AND THEN MY SISTER GOT AFFILIATED WITH THE ADVENT
06:07 -- ADVENTIST CHURCH, AND SHE STARTED BRINGING OVER THIS FUNKY
06:13 STUFF, AND I WAS LIKE, WHERE IS THAT?
06:16 SATURDAY? WHAT?
06:17 SO THAT LEAD TO ME INVESTIGATING THE ADVENTIST CHURCH, BECAUSE I
06:25 THOUGHT IT WAS A CULT, AND I WAS TRYING TO GET MY SISTER OUT, AND
06:33 I STUDIED MYSELF IN. AND I WAS -- BAPTIZED IN
06:38 NOVEMBER OF '84. AND I MET TY GIBSON, AND HE HAS
06:43 A SIMILAR BACKGROUND TO MINE. WE BECAME FAST FRIENDS.
06:48 YOU ARE ON FIRE. YOU ARE HOT.
06:50 YOU HAVE DONE ALL OF THIS STUDYING, AND PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
06:54 HEY, YOU SHOULD COME TO OUR CHURCH AND DO THIS THAT AND THE
06:58 OTHER, AND I THINK IN '86 LIGHT BEARERS MINISTRY WAS FORMED.
07:06 >> SO YOU TOOK OFF QUICK. >> YEAH, WE MADE A LOT OF
07:10 MISTAKES ALONG THE WAY.-GETTING IT WRONG HERE AND THERE, BUT IT WAS GOOD, BECAUSE WHEN WE
07:21 REALIZED WE GOT IT WRONG, WE SAID, HEY, PLEASE HELP US.
07:27 AND THEY DID. AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY
07:30 STRONGLY WITH THE CHURCH FOR 30 YEARS NOW.
07:32 >> PRAISE THE LORD THAT THE CHURCH WAS REDEMPTIVE ENOUGH TO
07:43 NUTURE YOU, AND THAT YOU WERE WISE ENOUGH AND HUMBLE ENOUGH TO
07:47 ASK FOR THE HELP. >> PRAISE GOD.
07:50 >> SO THE MINISTRY HAS GROWN. ONE OF THE SHOWS THAT HAS
07:55 DEVELOPED A LARGE AND LOYAL FOLLOWING TABLE TALK HERE.
07:59 PEOPLE LIKE THAT. YOU, TY, DAVID, AND JEFFERY, AND
08:05 VERY WELL DONE. >> THANK YOU.
08:06 >> THE NEW -- WELL, THEY ARE NOT NEW NOW, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN OUT
08:10 A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT THE BIBLE STUDY SERIES REALLY WELL DONE,
08:16 AND BEING WELL RECEIVED. >> DON'T FORGET ABOUT SALVATION
08:21 OF SYMBOLS AND SIGNS. I KNOW THERE ISN'T DARE TO
08:25 DREAM, BUT I WANT TO PUT THAT UP FOR YVONNE.
08:28 THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR.
08:30 WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE IN MARCH TO DO DANIEL.
08:33 >> YEAH, WE HAVE SALVATION SYMBOLS AND SIGNS ON PROCLAIM!.
08:39 >> AMEN. AND ON DARE TO DREAM IT'S ON
08:42 EVERY DAY. >> THAT'S A GOOD SHOW.
08:44 WELL DONE AND -- AND -- AND A GOOD WATCH.
08:49 IT'S GOOD TELEVISION. >> AMEN.
08:52 >> THE WAY YOU APPROACH IT, IF YOU'RE AN ADVANCED STUDENT OF
08:57 THE WORD YOU GET SOMETHING, IF YOU ARE A NEO-FITE IT FEEDS YOU
09:10 THERE TOO. >> AMEN.
09:12 AND I'M ACTUALLY STAYING HOME NOW.
09:14 I HAVE BEEN TRAVELING FOR 30 YEARS PLUS, GOING ALL OVER THE
09:18 WORLD. I FINALLY BEEN CONVICTED THAT
09:22 YOU KNOW WHAT, JAMES, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU TO PASS SOME OF
09:26 THIS STUFF ON THAT YOU HAVE LEARNED.
09:28 YOU HAVE MET ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, STUDIED
09:33 DIFFERENT DOCTRINES AND MET ISSUES, AND GAINED A LOT OF
09:38 EXPERIENCE. AND EVERY YEAR WE HAVE AN ARISE
09:42 PROGRAM IN THE UNITED STATES AND AUSTRALIA.
09:44 AUSTRALIA RISE JUST KICKED OFF 42 STUDENTS.
09:48 WE HAVE THAT ON THE GOLD COAST, AND ON THE THE U.S. ARISE BEGINS
09:54 IN AUGUST. >> UH-HUH.
09:56 >> AND WE HAVE, WHAT, 40, 50, 60, 70, TO 80 STUDENTS THAT
10:04 WE'RE PUTTING THROUGH A TRAINING-EXPERIENCE. AND OUT OF THAT, THIS YEAR, WE
10:08 BROUGHT BACK 12, AND WE DECIDED WE WANT TO POUR MORE INTO THESE
10:13 12 IN A DISCIPLESHIP MINISTRY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE TRAVELING
10:18 ANYMORE EXCEPT FOR 3ABN, THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR ME.
10:24 >> AND WE THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> I WANTED TO SAY THAT WITH A
10:29 PAUSE. >> APPROPRIATE APPLAUSE.
10:32 >> A PAUSE, NOT APPLAUSE. BUT PRIMARILY BECAUSE I'LL GO
10:37 FROM PLACE TO PLACE TO PLACE TO PLACE TO PLACE AND MEET WITH
10:42 DIFFERENT PEOPLE, BUT NEVER GET TO DO A PROLONGED EXPERIENCE
10:46 WITH ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND AS I HAVE CORRECTED WITH
10:50 THESE GUYS AND GIRLS, IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE.
10:53 IT HAS BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE. IT'S TWO WEEKS OLD RIGHT NOW.
10:57 BUT I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE. JESUS SPENT, YOU KNOW, THREE AND
11:03 A HALF YEARS OF MINISTRY WITH 12 GUYS.
11:07 >> EXACTLY. >> AND THAT'S WHERE GOD IS
11:10 CALLING TO ME, WE WANT TO BRING PASTORS AND OTHERS INTO THIS IN
11:13 OUR AREA, BUT I THINK WHAT WOULD BE SUPER IF IN OTHER AREAS,
11:18 PEOPLE GOT A HOLD OF THIS IDEA, RETIRED PASTORS THAT THEY HAVE
11:22 GOT A LOT OF WEALTH AND KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE THAT
11:28 THEY CAN POUR INTO PEOPLE. AND I TELL THE CLASS, I SAY
11:33 TABLE TALK WITH JEFFERY AND DAVID AND TY AND MYSELF IS A
11:36 HOLLYWOOD PRODUCTION. WE COME FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD,
11:39 PUT ON THE MAKEUP, THE LIGHTS, SIT DOWN, AND THEN WE'RE GONE.
11:44 AND THEN I SAID TO HIS GUYS, I SAID THIS IS REALITY TV.
11:49 THIS IS REALITY TABLE TALK. WE'RE JUST DOING LIFE TOGETHER.
11:53 SO IT'S REALITY TABLE TALK. >> YEAH, WELL DONE.
11:57 YOU KNOW, AS YOU GET ALONG IN -- IN MINISTRY, YOU -- YOU
12:02 REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE GOT SOME STUFF -- I WAS TALKING WITH MARK
12:08 FINLEY ON THE SAME THING. YOU MEET GROUPS, AND PEOPLE, BUT
12:12 YOU WANT TO LEAVE A LITTLE WAKE THERE.
12:19 >> PAUL DID IT WITH TIMOTHY. >> UH-HUH.
12:21 >> YOU ARE PASTORING NOW. >> YEAH, PART-TIME.
12:25 SO IT'S A LOCAL CHURCH FALL CREEK.
12:29 RIGHT IN MY AREA. I WAS PASTORING ABOUT TWO HOURS
12:33 AWAY, AND THAT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE, BUT A LITTLE BIT OF
12:40 TRAVEL. BUT TY AND I LOVE PASTORING.
12:42 AND IT WAS A NATURAL FIT FOR ME. SO I LOVE INVESTING IN PEOPLE,
12:49 WORKING THROUGH ISSUES WITH THEM, HELPING THEM, PASSING OUT
12:53 KNOWLEDGE, PRAYING TOGETHER FOR LIFE'S WISDOM, LIFE COACHING.
12:57 MAYBE I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT PEOPLE NEED PEOPLE.
13:02 TELEVISION IS GREAT, VIDEO IS GOOD.
13:05 FACEBOOK IS FANS -- FANTASTIC, TWITTER IS AMAZING AS FAR AS
13:13 DROPPING NUGGETS TO GET PEOPLE INTERESTED, BUT THERE IS NOTHING
13:17 THAT CAN REPLACE PEOPLE-TO-PEOPLE MINISTRY.
13:19 >> EXACTLY. >> YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE IT.
13:22 >> THERE WILL NEVER BE A TIME WHEN IT IS NOT NECESSARY.
13:24 >> AMEN. >> WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT PEOPLE.
13:28 AND SOMETIMES JUST A SOUNDINGBOARD.
13:30 I NEED TO HEAR SOMEBODY SAY SOMETHING JUST TO BOUNCE THIS
13:33 OFF OF SOMEBODY. AND WHEN I CAME OUT OF SCHOOL, I
13:36 THOUGHT I HAVE MY DEGREE I CAN SOLVE EVERYBODY'S PROBLEMS.
13:41 SECOND WEEK OF MINISTRY THAT WENT OUT THE WINDOW.
13:45 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I TELL THESE GUYS THEY ARE
13:48 ALL BROKE AND DYSFUNCTIONAL FROM MANY ANGLES, AND I'M TOO.
13:53 AND I SAID GOD IS USING OUR BROKENNESS TO ECLIPSE US IN
13:59 MINISTRY. SO YOU CAN USE THOSE
14:04 DYSFUNCTIONS AND ALLOW THEM TO BE EXPERIENCES WHERE YOU HAVE
14:07 LEARNED AND GROWN, AND THEY BECOME WEAPONS, IF YOU
14:13 WILL -- TOOLS, TO MINISTER. AND AS I SAYS IN ROMAN'S 8:28,
14:20 TO WORK ALL THINGS TOGETHER. >> YEAH.
14:23 >> SO YOU CAN COMFORT OTHRS WITH THE COMFORT YOU HAVE BEEN
14:27 COMFORTED WITH. >> AND YOU LEARN QUICKLY THAT IT
14:29 IS NOT YOUR JOB TO SOLVE ANYONE'S PROBLEMS, IT IS YOUR
14:34 JOB POINT THEM TO CHRIST. >> AMEN.
14:36 >> WE ARE KIND OF LOSING OUR FUNCTION HERE.
14:40 >> OH, WE'LL BRING IT BACK. >> YEAH.
14:44 THE IDEA THAT I HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU IS NOT REALISTIC.
14:48 CHRIST HAS THE ANSWER FOR BOTH OF US.
14:51 >> MAIN. >> IN HELL NO ONE IS GOING TO
14:55 ASK HOW DID YOU GET HERE? NO ONE IS GOING TO ASK THAT
14:58 QUESTION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER.
15:00 NOR DOES IT MATTER WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS, BECAUSE THE ANSWER
15:03 TO ALL OF THE PROBLEMS THE SAME, IT'S JESUS.
15:06 >> AMEN. >> SO THE DEPTH OR STRENGTH OF
15:11 THE PROBLEM IS NOT A QUESTION THAT CHRIST WOULD ASK, BECAUSE
15:14 HE HAS THE ANSWER. SO MY JOB AS PASTOR IS TO POINT
15:21 YOU TO JESUS. >> HE HA THE ANSWER.
15:23 >> SERMON OVER. >> SERMON OVER.
15:24 [ LAUGHTER ] >> GOOD TO TALK TO YOU, MAN.
15:28 >> YOU TOO. >> REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, YOUR
15:32 WORK, THE GUYS -- WE REMEMBER THEM TOO.
15:34 >> AMEN. IF YOU WILL, PLEASE.
15:37 >> WE'RE GOING TO GO TO OUR MUSIC, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO
15:45 TAKE ABOUT RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH.
15:48 I WANT TO READ THIS -- I SUSPECT YOU WROTE THIS.
15:52 I JUST BROKE MY GLASSES. OKAY.
15:56 IN THE PROGRAM TONIGHT RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH.
15:59 IT SAYS IT CAN BE CONFUSING AND EVEN SCARY TO SOME THE IDEA THAT
16:05 CHRIST IS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. ONE OF THE FIRST BOOKS I BOUGHT
16:12 WAS CHRIST BY RIGHTEOUSNESS. I DON'T KNOW IF I EVER FINISHED
16:20 IT. IT WAS KIND OF DAUNTING.
16:22 THESE ARE GONE. THESE ARE GONE.
16:25 OKAY. I'LL JUST BREAK THAT OFF.
16:26 >> THAT WILL WORK. I HAVE A PAIR LIKE THAT, BY THE
16:30 WAY. >> THEN I CAN DO THEM LIKE THIS,
16:32 AND GET SOME NEW ONES DURING THE-pBREAK. WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
16:41 WHAT IS RIGHTEOUSNESS? WHAT DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS LOOK
16:44 LIKE? WHEN I WAS READING THIS BEFORE,
16:46 I WAS THINKING OF THAT IMAGE OF A POLE VAULTER, AND
16:50 RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THIS HIGH BAR, AND WE RUN AND WE GO AND WE
16:53 PLANT THE POLE AND YOU GO UP -- AND JUST BELOW THE BAR -pKIND OF THING, YOU KNOW?
16:59 WE SEE IT AS THIS BAR TO BE REACHED, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT LIKE
17:03 THAT, IT IS DAUNTING. HOW DO I EVER GET OVER THAT BAR?
17:08 AND SO WE GET A CHANCE TO DELVE INTO THAT IDEA TONIGHT.
17:13 WE WANT TO HEAR FROM STEPHANIE DAWN A GREAT FRIEND OF THIS
17:21 MINISTRY, A GREAT SINGER. SHE IS GOING TO BE SINGING "HE
17:29 WHO DWELLS." ♪
17:55 ♪ ♪ HE WHO DWELLS IN THE SHELTER ♪
18:39 ♪
20:27 ♪ ♪
21:52 >> WELL DONE STEPHANIE DAWN. SUCH A GREAT FRIEND OF THE
21:57 MINISTRY, GREAT PERSONAL FRIEND, WONDERFUL CHRISTIAN, A YOUNG
22:01 LADY WHO WITH HER DAD DAN WORKS FOR THE LORD AND SERVES THE LORD
22:07 SO FAITHFULLY. >> THAT WAS HER DAD PLAYING THE
22:12 PIANO. >> YEAH.
22:12 >> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. >> NICE GUY.
22:18 FUN GUY. JAMES RAFFERTY, PASTOR JAMES
22:20 RAFFERTY, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT RIGHTEOUSNESS
22:26 FAITH AND ASPECTS THEREOF. I'M GOING TO LET YOU LOOSE AND
22:30 LET YOU GO, MAN. BUT I'M COMPLETING A SE
22:35 SERRY -- SERIES ON DANIEL MYSELF CALLED DANIEL ALL ACCESS.
22:45 >> OKAY. WHEN IS IT AIRING?
22:49 ADVERTISE YOURSELF HERE. >> SOMETIME THIS YEAR.
22:51 >> SOMETIME THIS YEAR. [ LAUGHTER ]
22:53 >> THERE ARE EDITING AND THINGS THEY HAVE GOT TO TIDY UP.
22:57 >> I'M HAPPY FOR YOU MAN. >> I'M HAPPY ABOUT IT.
23:04 WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CONFESSION, ARTICLE NUMBER 4, IN PREPARATION
23:12 FOR THIS SERIES. >> DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE
23:17 CONFESSION IS? >> I GUESS I SHOULD NOT ASSUME
23:25 SO. CHARLES THE FIFTH ASKED THE
23:28 ELECTORS AND THE PEOPLE OF GERMANY TO COME TOGETHER AND TO
23:35 CODIFY FOR THEM THEIR BELIEF SYSTEMS.
23:37 HE DID THIS IN ABOUT 1527 OR 28.
23:43 THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE WAS COMING FROM THE EAST, AND HE NEEDED A
23:47 BODY OF WORK TO TRY TO BRING HIS KINGDOM TOGETHER TO STOP THE
23:52 ADVANCE OF THE OTTOMANS, SO THEY CAME TOGETHER, AND THEY CAME
23:58 WITH THIS TREATISE, THIS THESIS, 28 ARTICLES OF BELIEF THAT
24:05 BECAME THE BASE OF BELIEF FOR THE LOUTHURN CHURCH.
24:20 AND FIVE YEARS LATER, COUNCIL OF TRENT WAS CONVENED TO TRY TO
24:25 COUNTERACT THIS -- >> THIS IS PROTESTANTISM.
24:33 >> INDEED. MAN CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED THROUGH
24:37 GOD THROUGH OUR OWN ABILITIES, WE ARE WHOLLY RELIANT ON JESUS
24:44 CHRIST FOR RECONCILIATION WITH GOD.
24:49 THIS IS THE ONE ARTICLE THAT STANDS BEFORE THE CHURCH IN
24:53 WHICH IT WILL STAND OR FALL. AND MOST OF CHRISTIANITY BOUGHT
24:58 INTO THIS. AND IT BECAME THE ANIMUS FOR THE
25:03 COUNTER REFORMATION AND WHAT HAPPENED FOR THE NEXT 18 YEARS
25:08 BY THE CATHOLIC CHUCH. SO YOUR STUDY IS KIND OF UNIQUE.
25:13 SO LET ME LET YOU LOOSE. >> JEREMIAH 23:6 IS OUR KEY
25:23 VERSE. I LIKE THE CONTEXT BECAUSE WE'RE
25:26 TALKING ABOUT PASTORAL MINISTRY, AND THIS IS REFERRING TO THAT,
25:31 AND I WANT US TO SEE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO.
25:36 JEREMIAH 23:1, THEREFOR THE LORD, FEED MY PEOPLE, YOU HAVE
25:47 SCATTERED MY FLOCK HAVE NOT VISITED THEM, AND I WILL GATHER
25:52 THE REMNANT OF MY FLOCK, VERSUS 3, WHETHER I HAVE DRIVEN THEM,
25:57 AND WILL BRING THEM TO THEIR FOLDS AND SET UP SHEPHERDS OVER
26:05 THEM THAT WILL FEED THEM, AND THEY WILL FEAR NO MORE.
26:09 BEHOLD THE DAY HAS COME SAYS THE LORD, I'M ADDING A PART, THE
26:14 DAYS HAVE COME SAYS THE LORD, THAT I WILL RAISE UP UNDER DAVID
26:21 A RIGHTEOUSNESS BRANCH. AND IN HIS DAY JUDAS SHALL WILL
26:28 SAVED, AND THIS IS THE NAME BY WHICH HE SHALL BE CALLED THE
26:33 LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. SO THIS KEY VERSE IS TELLING US
26:37 THAT THIS MESSAGE THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS KE TO PASTORAL
26:42 MINISTRY, TO SEEDING THE FLOCK, TO BRINGING THE FLOCK TOGETHER
26:46 AND NOT HAVING THEM SCATTER. RIGHTEOUSNESS IS VERY SCARY,
26:51 BECAUSE RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHT DOING.
26:52 THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS RIGHT DOING.
26:55 SO WHEN YOU DEFINE RIGHTEOUSNESS AS RIGHT DOING, PEOPLE GET
26:59 NERVOUS, BECAUSE WE ALL RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE
27:02 ARE NOT NATURALLY INCLINED TO RIGHT DOING.
27:06 >> TRUE. >> WEDON'T NATURALLY RIGHT DO.
27:08 BUT THERE IS A PERSON WHO HAS RIGHT DONE.
27:11 THERE IS A PERSON WHO LIVED A LIFE COMPLETELY FILLED WITH
27:16 RIGHTEOUSNESS, WITH RIGHT DOING, AND THAT IS JESUS CHRIST.
27:19 HE NEVER SINNED. >> YES.
27:22 >> NOT ONCE. SO JESUS CHRIST CAME AS A HUMAN
27:25 BEING AND LIVED THIS PERFECT LIFE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS TO FILL UP
27:29 THE LAW. HE FILLED UP THE REQUIREMENTS OF
27:32 THE LAW ON BEHALF OF THE HUMAN RACE.
27:37 THAT'S WHY HE BECAME A MAN. HE WAS THE SECOND MAN OR THE
27:42 SECOND ADAM, SO HE STARTED A WHOLE NEW HUMAN EXISTENCE, AND
27:46 WHEN WE ARE BORN AGAIN -- BECAUSE WE'RE NATURALLY
27:49 BORN OF THE FIRST ADAM, AND WE INHERIT FROM THE FIRST ADAM A
27:55 DISPOSITION TO DISOBEY GOD, BUT WHEN WE ARE BORN AGAIN, WE
28:00 RECEIVE A NEW LIFE, A NEW HEART, AND WE'RE BORN FROM THE SECOND
28:05 ADAM, AND WE DON'T INHERIT ANYTHING FROM HIM THAT TENDS
28:10 TOWARDS DISOBESANCE. HE DID GOD'S WILL NOT HIS OWN
28:15 WILL ALL THE TIME, SO WHEN WE'RE BORN OF THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE GET
28:18 FROM HIM. BUT THE CONFLICT IS THE SECOND
28:22 ADAM'S DNA IS STILL IN US. AND THEN YOU HAVE THE NEW MAN,
28:26 THE SPIRIT, AND THIS NEW CREATION IS TAKING PLACE, AND
28:31 PAUL SAYS? GALATIANS CHAPTER 5 THAT THEY
28:37 ARE FIGHTING AGAINST EACH OTHER, AND WE STRUGGLE AND AT THE CORE
28:40 OF THE STRUGGLE IS RIGHTEOUSNESS, RIGHT DOING.
28:43 >> YES. UH-HUH.
28:44 >> SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE SUBJECT, IT BECOMES REALLY
28:48 DIFFICULT FOR US, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE
28:52 UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS THAT THE LORD IS OUR
28:57 RIGHTEOUSNESS. WE KNOW HE HAS DONE RIGHT.
28:59 HE IS THE RIGHT DOER. BUT HOW DOES THAT EQUATE TO US?
29:04 SOME SAY HE DID RIGHT, AND HIS EXAMPLE AND HIS LIFE SHOW US
29:10 WHAT WE SHOULD DO RIGHT. SO HE IS THE LORD OFF
29:13 RIGHTEOUSNESS WHEN WE DO RIGHT THE WAY HE DID RIGHT.
29:16 >> UH-HUH. >> THAT'S ONE POINT.
29:18 THAT'S ONE IDEA. AND THEN YOU HAVE ABOUT A
29:23 BILLION CHRISTIANS, GIVE OR TAKE THAT -- WELL, THEY UNDERSTAND
29:26 THAT JESUS IS THE SAVIOR AND HE HAS COME TO JUSTIFY US, BUT AS
29:35 FAR AS THE REST OF IT GOES, WE NEED TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE WHOLE
29:42 EQUATION. AND IF WE CAN'T DO IT IN THIS
29:44 LIFE, THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION, CALLED PURGATORY WHERE WE CAN
29:50 GET THINGS WORKED OUT. BUT QUESTION HAVE TO MERIT OUR
29:56 SALVATION. SO THERE'S THIS -- AND ME,
30:01 COMING OUT OF THE CATHOLIC FAITH THAT WHOLE UNDERSTANDING WAS
30:05 INGRAINED IN ME. I COULD GO TO CHURCH, SAY MY
30:10 CONFESSION, DO MY PENANCE AND THEN I WOULD CONSIDER MYSELF
30:14 CLEAN. AND WHEN I BECAME A PROTESTANT,
30:23 I BECAME BECAUSE I REALIZED AFTER 21 YEARS I DIDN'T GET THIS
30:28 RIGHT. AND THE WAY I DEAL WITH MY
30:30 FAILURES IS I GO GET THE BOTTLE, I GO GET THE DRUGS, YOU KNOW, I
30:35 TRY TO NUMB THE PAIN THROUGH ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT KINDS OF
30:40 MEDICATIONS. AND FINALLY IT WAS DAWNING ON ME
30:43 THEY NEEDED A RIGHTEOUSNESS OUTSIDE OF MYSELF.
30:45 >> UH-HUH. >> THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT CHRIST
30:50 IS THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS. AND WE USE THIS PHRASE A LOT,
30:52 SAVED BY THE BLOOD. BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS UNDERSTAND
30:56 THE FULL IMPLICATIONS OF THAT STATEMENT.
30:58 THE BLOOD WE KNOW AND UNDERSTAND INITIALLY IS THE DEATH OF JESUS.
31:03 HE SPILLED HIS BLOOD FOR US, SO WE COULD BE FORBIDDEN, BUTTHE
31:08 LIFE IS IN THE BLOOD. >> YES.
31:11 >> ACCORDING TO ROMANCE 5:6-10, WE'RE ALSO SAVED BY HIS LIFE.
31:17 BECAUSE SALVATION AND RIGHTEOUSNESS GO HAND IN HAND.
31:20 >> AND IT'S THEIR MARRYING OF THE TWO THAT MAKES IT SO UNIQUE.
31:25 SO THE MERITS OF THE DEATH ARE GIVEN US TO THROUGH THE LIFE OR
31:29 THE MINISTRY THAT IS ONGOING. >> YES.
31:31 >> YEAH. >> SO WE FIND OURSELVES AS
31:35 BIBLE-BELIEVING CHRISTIANS SAVED BY THE PERFECT LIFE OF JESUS AND
31:42 THE SUBSTITUTIONARY DEATH OF JESUS.
31:43 >> CORRECT. >> I WANTED TO LAY THAT AS A
31:47 FOUNDATION IN ORDER FOR US TO GET INTO OUR -- OUR BASIC
31:51 OUTLINE TONIGHT, BECAUSE CA, WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO DO IS GO
31:55 THROUGH THE BIBLE AND FIND THE VERY BEST HUMAN RIGHTEOUSNESS
31:58 THAT WE CAN FIND. AND I THINK WE CAN DO THIS IN
32:01 FOUR PEOPLE. TWO IN THE OLD TEST AND TWO IN
32:06 THE NEW TESTAMENT. HERE IS THE WORD WE'RE GOING TO
32:13 ESTABLISH TONIGHT. EVEN IF WE COULD FND THE VERY
32:17 BEST RIGHTEOUSNESS IN THE BIBLE, IT WOULDN'T BE GOOD ENOUGH TO
32:20 STAND UP AGAINST THE STANDARD OF THE LAW OF GOD.
32:22 THE LAW OF GOD IS OUR STANDARD. SO STANDARD IN THE JUDGMENT
32:29 ACCORDING TO JAMES. SO WE DON'T WANT TO COME TO THE
32:33 CONCLUSION, WE'RE SAVED BY THE PERFECT LIFE OF JESUS AND
32:39 SUBSEQUENT DEATH OF JESUS WE'RE SAVED, SO WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE
32:49 WANT. ROMANS 3, LOVE IS THE FILLING OF
32:59 THE LAW. LOVE YOUR BROTHER, YOU FULFILL
33:02 THE LAW. SO THE LOVE AND LAW GO HAND IN
33:06 HAND. BUT AS WE GO THROUGH THE BIBLE,
33:08 AND WE FIND THE VERY BEST HUMAN -RIGHTEOUSNESS OUTSIDE OF CHRIST THAT WE CAN FINE -- AND WHAT I
33:14 MEAN BY THAT, IT'S NOT SEPARATE FROM CHRIST IN THE SENSE THAT IT
33:18 ISN'T BY HIS GRACE, BUT EVEN BY THE GRACE OF GOD, WHEN WE FIND
33:22 THE VERY BEST RIGHTEOUSNESS WE CAN FIND, GUESS WHAT IN
33:25 >> FALLS SHORT. >> IT FALLS SHORT.
33:27 >> YEAH. >> IT FALLS SHORT.
33:29 >> YEAH. >> AND HERE IS THE DEAL -- AND I
33:31 WANT OUR VIEWERS TO SEE IF THEY CATCH THIS.
33:34 THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE EXAMPLE OF THE FOUR PEOPLE, JOB, DANIEL,
33:42 PAUL, AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT JOHN NEW TESTAMENT.
33:47 BECAUSE THESE GUYS EXEMPLIFY RIGHTEOUSNESS.
33:50 I MEAN YOU LOOK AT THEIR LIVES -- IF THE WHOLE BIBLE WAS
33:54 DANIEL, I WOULD JUST TURN AROUND AND GIVE UP.
33:57 AND THANKFULLY WE HAVE DAVID, MOSES, SAMPSON, PETER -- YOU
34:01 KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? >> YEAH.
34:04 >> DANIEL SEEMS SUPER NATURAL TO ME.
34:09 HIM AND ENOCH, IT'S LIKE SEE YOU LATER.
34:16 [ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT EVEN WITH THE BEST
34:19 EXAMPLES OF HUMAN RIGHTEOUSNESS BY THE GRACE OF GOD, IT STILL
34:23 FALLS SHORT OF THE STANDARD OF PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS, WHICH
34:26 MEANS WE'RE DISQUALIFIED. THE VERY BEST OF US ARE
34:32 DISQUALIFIED. THIS IS WHAT THE ENTIRE
34:35 NARRATIVE OF SCRIPTURE TEACHES. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, JESUS
34:39 CHRIST HAS TO BY THE LORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.
34:47 WE'RE GOING TO SEE IT IN DANIEL AND JOB.
34:50 >> IF YOU WERE LEFT WITH THAT, YOU WOULD END UP BEING
34:54 DEPRESSED. IT'S LIKE THERE IS THIS GOAL.
34:56 I CAN'T DO THAT. I CAN'T BE THAT.
34:59 THAT WOULD BE DEPRESSING. JUST STAY IN BED, PULL UP THE
35:05 COVERS, BUT LUCKILY CHRIST WORKS WITH US, THROUGH US, FOR US.
35:10 >> YEAH, WE WOULD BE DEPRESSED. [ LAUGHTER ]
35:14 >> BUT SOME OF US WOULDN'T BE SO DEPRESSED.
35:17 SOME OF US WOULD BE PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE WE BELIEVE
35:21 THAT WE CAN AND ARE AND WILL BE QUALIFIED TO BE RIGHTEOUSNESS,
35:25 YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? >> WHICH IS SELF DECEPTION.
35:29 >> AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT ALSO.
35:32 AND AS WE END THIS PROGRAM, I WANT US TO LOOK AT A VERSE THAT
35:35 CAN IDENTIFY FOR US -- REMIND ME OF THIS LUKE 18 -- HOW WE CAN
35:41 KNOW IF WE'RE TRUSTING OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, OR CHRIST
35:46 RIGHTEOUSNESS. BUT LET'S GET INTO THE BIBLE
35:48 SOME MORE HERE. I WANT US TO GET INTO THE BOOK
35:53 OF JOB. JOB 1 IS WHERE WE'RE START.
35:55 AND JUST LOOK AT A FEW CHAPTERS HERE.
35:58 HAH REMEMBER WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT FOUR EXAMPLES TWO IN THE NEW
36:02 AND TWO IN THE OLD TESTAMENT. JOB 1, AND WHEN WE START
36:06 JOB -- I JUST WANT TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE WHOLE STORY OF
36:12 JOB. SO JOB BEGINS WITH THIS VERSE,
36:14 MAN IN THE LAND OF US WHO'S NAME WAS JOB, AND THIS MAN WAS
36:19 PERFECT. THAT'S WHAT KING JAMES SAYS.
36:22 >> I HAVE NEW KING JAMES. >> WHAT DOES IT SAY?
36:25 >> THIS MAN WAS -- >> BLAMELESS?
36:28 >> UP RIGHT. >> UP RIGHT.
36:30 >> I'M SORRY, PERFECT, BLAMELESS, UPRIGHT.
36:36 AND THE GUY HAS JUST SOLD OUT FOR HIS FAMILY, HIS KIDS.
36:41 HE -- GETS WORRIED ABOUT THEM, I MEAN WHAT PARENT DOESN'T, RIGHT?
36:46 AND HE IS WORRIED WHEN THEY HAVE THESE PARTIES THAT MAYBE THEY
36:50 ARE NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE AND DOING WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOIG,
36:53 SO HE GETS UP REALLY EARLY IN THE MORNING AND PRAYS FOR EVERY
36:57 ONE OF THEM. THAT'S THE CONTEXT OF JOB'S
37:01 RIGHTEOUSNESS. NOW IN THAT CONTEXT, JOB, WE SEE
37:05 THIS BOOK SWITCH NOW TO A DIFFERENT PLACE, CIRCUMSTANCE,
37:09 NARRATIVE, IT'S IN HEAVEN. SATAN IS COMING.
37:13 AND GOD SAYS, HEY, SATAN WHAT ARE YOU DOING THERE?
37:16 I LIKE THE FACT THAT GOD CHALLENGES SATAN, WHAT ARE YOU
37:20 DOING HERE? AND SATAN IS CLAIMING THAT THE
37:24 EARTH IS HIS, AND GOD SAYS NO. HE'S PERFECT.
37:29 THE GUY IS PERFECT. THE GUY IS PERFECT.
37:33 OKAY? >> UH-HUH.
37:34 >> AND THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, JOB COMES TO A PLACE
37:37 WHERE HE IS STRIPPED OF EVERYTHING.
37:40 HE LOSES HIS FAMILY, KIDS, HIS WIFE IS STILL THERE, BUT SAYS
37:48 CURSE GOD AND DIE. AND HE LOSES HIS HEALTH.
37:52 AND HIS FRIENDS COME AND AS SOON AS THEY START TALKING THEOLOGY
37:58 IT'S OVER. AND HE SAYS BE QUIET AND THAT
38:02 WILL BE MY COMFORT. SO HE IS GOING THROUGH THIS
38:05 WHOLE EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE IN HIS AFFLICTION, THE THEOLOGY IS
38:09 SAYING TO HIM THROUGH HIS FRIENDS, LISTEN, IF YOU ARE
38:13 GOING THROUGH AFFLICTION, IT IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING
38:16 WRONG. AND OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE BEING
38:20 CURSED. AND JOB IS LIKE I KNOW WE ALL
38:23 LEARNED THIS TOGETHER, BUT I'M EXPERIENCING SOMETHING HERE THAT
38:27 IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE LEARNED FROM OUR PROFESSOR.
38:33 NOTHING HAS CHANGED BETWEEN ME AND GOD.
38:34 I HAVE NOTICED WHEN THERE ARE TIMES WHEN VIC -- WICKED PEOPLE
38:42 ACTUALLY PROSPER, AND IF THAT IS THE CASE, COULD IT BE THAT
38:47 SOMETIMES NON-WICKED PEOPLE PROS FER.
38:50 HIS FRIENDS ARE NOT OPEN FOR A PAR
38:53 PAR PARADIGM SHIFT.
38:57 SO JOB IS STRUGGLING, AND YOU GET TO ABOUT VERSE 29, JOB GOES
39:04 TO HIS FINAL -- HE IS TAKING THE ACE OUT OF THE HOLE HERE.
39:08 IN JOB 29 HE BASICALLY SAYS, YOU KNOW, I WISH THAT I WAS WALKING
39:13 IN THOSE DAYS OF MY YOUTH WHEN THE ALL MIGHTY WAS WITH ME.
39:18 VERSE 5, WHEN I WENT OUT OF THE GATE AND I SAT IN -- IN THE SEAT
39:24 WHERE THE WISEMEN SIT. VERSUS 8.
39:29 THE AGED MENSAH AND STOOD UP, THE NOBLES HELD THEIR PEACE,
39:34 WHEN THE EAR HEARD ME IT BLESSED ME, I DELIVERED THE POOR THAT
39:39 CRIED, THE FATHERLESS THAT HAD NOTHING TO HELP THEM, I CAUSED
39:46 THE WIDOW'S HEART TO SING FOR JOY, AND I WAS EYES TO THE
39:51 BLIND, FEET TO THE LAME, FATHER TO THE POOR, THE CAUSE I
39:57 SEARCHED OUT. I BROKE THE JAWS OF THE WICKED.
40:00 AND I PLUCKED THE SPOIL OUT OF HIS TEETH.
40:03 I MEAN TIS GUY WAS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
40:05 THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE HERE IS.
40:07 THAT'S THE POINT THE BIBLE IS MAKING HERE.
40:14 JOB WAS RIGHTEOUSNESS. MAYBE SOMEONE -- BUT ME, NO, I
40:19 CAN'T TOUCH THIS. BUT NOTICE WHAT HAPPENS.
40:22 AS JOB FINISHES UP, GOD ENTERS INTO THE PICTURE, AND, YOU KNOW,
40:29 YOU HAVE GOT TO GET -- GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL HERE.
40:33 GOD HAS ALLOWED JOB TO BE TRIED BECAUSE HE HAS A BIGGER PURPOSE
40:39 TAKING PLACE BEHIND THE SCENES THAT JOB DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT.
40:42 AND THAT'S US. THERE ARE VIEWERS CA WHO ARE
40:48 GOING THROUGH STRUGGLES AND DIFFICULTIES, AND THEY DON'T
40:52 UNDERSTAND WHERE IS GOD AND WHAT IS GOING ON?
40:55 THAT'S THE BOOK OF JOB. AND SOMETIMES GOD CAN'T EXPLAIN
40:59 ALL OF THE DETAILS, OR WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
41:02 JOB SAW IT, BUT HE WAS STILL STRUGGLING WITH IT.
41:05 BUT GOD TRIES TO SHOW US, HEY, LISTEN, I'M FIGHTING WITH SOME
41:11 STUFF HERE, AND IF YOU HAD TO TACKLE WHAT I HAVE TO TACKLE IT
41:17 WOULD KNOCK YOU OUT AND YOU WOULD NEVER GET UP AGAIN.
41:22 >> EXACTLY. >> AND THEN IN JOB 40, GOD COMES
41:28 TO JOB AND SAYS -- THE LORD ANSWERS JOB AND SAYS SHALL HE
41:34 THAT CONTENDS TO THE ALL MIGHTY STRUCK HIM.
41:39 THEN JOB ANSWERED THE LORD AND HE SAID, BEHOLD, I AM VIAL.
41:45 WHAT SHOULD I ANSWER THEE. I WILL PROCEED NO FURTHER.
41:53 AND WHAT JOB IS SAYING HERE IS THERE WAS A TIME IN JOB 9 WHEN
41:59 JOB SAID SOMETHING LIKE THIS -- HE SAID, YOU KNOW, GOD
42:02 DOESN'T HEAR ME, AND IF HE DID, HE WOULDN'T ANSWER ME, AND IF I
42:07 HAD CHANCE TO TAKE HIM TO COURT, HE WOULDN'T SHOW UP.
42:12 >> UH-HUH. >> ANOTHER THING I WANT TO GET
42:15 CLEAR HERE, GOD IS BIG. HE HAS BIG SHOULDERS.
42:19 >> YOU KNOW, I WAS HOLDING MY MOUTH --
42:22 >> YEAH, GO FOR IT. >> THE FACT THAT GOD IS BIG
42:26 ENOUGH TO TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS. GOD WILL EVEN ALLOW YOU TO SHAKE
42:31 YOUR FINGER. WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS
42:33 GIVE UP ON HIM. >> AND WALK AWAY.
42:37 >> BUT GOD IS NOT SO PETTY THAT YOU CA'T SAY, GOD, I DON'T
42:42 UNDERSTAND. THIS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
42:44 I WON'T GIVE UP, BUT I'M GOING TO WHINE OKAY.
42:48 >> AND THAT'S OKAY. >> PRECISELY.
42:51 >> AND IN THE END HE SAYS JOB IS MY MAN.
42:55 BECAUSE HE SAID I DON'T GET THIS, GOD, I DOJT LIKE IT.
42:58 AND GOD SAID, I DON'T LIKE IT EITHER.
43:03 AND THIS COMPLACENT RELIGION THAT SAYS IF YOU ARE COMPLAISANT
43:10 IT'S FIND. THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.
43:12 THERE IS WICKEDNESS AND PAIN, AND WHEN YOU FEEL THAT, AND YOU
43:16 ARE UPSET WITH GOD CONCERNING THAT, HE IS RIGHT THERE WITH
43:19 YOU. >> PRECISELY.
43:22 >> SO WE COMMENDS JOB. AND ONE MORE THING THAT IS
43:26 HAPPENING IN VERSE 42, BECAUSE GOD SPEAKS AGAIN, AND THEN
43:32 VERSE -- >> CHAPTER 42.
43:34 >> EXCUSE ME CHAPTER 42, HE SAYS I KNOW THAT YOU CAN DO
43:38 EVERYTHING, AND THAT NO THOUGHT CAN BE HIDDEN FROM THEE.
43:43 THEREFORE I HAVE UTTERED THAT I UNDERSTOOD NOT.
43:47 THINGS WERE WONDERFUL FOR ME, WHICH I KNEW NOT.
43:51 AND I WILL DEMAND OF ME -- THIS IS HIM QUOTING GOD, I HAVE HEARD
43:56 OF THEE BY THE HEARING OF MY EAR, BUT NOW MY EYES SEE THEE.
44:05 >> YEAH. >> WE CAN ARGUE WHY JOB DOES
44:09 THIS OR DOESN'T DO IT. BUT I DON'T CARE.
44:14 IT DOESN'T MATTER. EVEN IF HE'S PERFECT AND
44:18 RIGHTEOUSNESS, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT AS WE MOVE TO DANIEL
44:22 AND OTHERS. WHEN YOU SEE GOD, I DON'T CARE
44:26 HOW MANY ORPHANS YOU HAVE MINISTERED TO, HOW MANY CAUSES
44:30 YOU HAVE SOUGHT OUT, WHEN YOU SEE GOD, THIS IS GOING TO BE
44:33 YOUR EXPERIENCE. >> PRECISELY.
44:35 >> YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS IS GOING TO GO FLAT.
44:38 YOUR GLORY IS GOING TO BECOME DUST.
44:41 AND WHEN YOU ARE WALLOWING IN YOUR GLORY, GOD JUST RAISES YOU
44:47 UP, BECAUSE ITS HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
44:51 >> AFTER ALL OF THAT -- AND I THINK WHEN YOU REALLY GET THE
44:54 VISION OF WHO GOD IS, AND WHO YOU ARE --
44:56 >> UH-HUH. >> -- YOU'RE -- YOU'RE RESPONSE
45:02 IS TO FALL FLAT ON YOUR FACE. ANYTHING THAT YOU EVER THOUGHT
45:05 YOU HAD OR YOU COULD BRING TO THE TABLE YOU REALIZE IS
45:08 NOTHING. >> HUH.
45:10 >> IT'S NOT GOD PLUS YOU. IT'S GOD ALL GOD.
45:13 >> OKAY. >> AND THAT'S WHERE HE ENDED UP,
45:16 AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE GOD WANTED HIM TO BE.
45:21 >> YOU STARTED WITH THE CONFIRMATION.
45:24 WE'RE -- WE'RE COMING OUT OF THAT, AND REALIZING WHAT THE
45:29 REFORMATION WAS ALL ABOUT, AND WHAT IT BROUGHT TO US, THIS IS
45:32 WHAT THE REFORMERS ARE ALL ABOUT.
45:35 >> YES. >> YES CAN'T ADD THEM TO THE
45:38 CANNON, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THE LIFE OF LUTHER AND WHAT HE WENT
45:43 TO WITH HIS MONASTERY LIFE AND WALKING ON HIS KNEES UP THE
45:48 STAIRCASE, AND LACERATING HIS BACK, AND DENYING HIMSELF AND
45:53 LIVING A BEGGAR'S LIF IN BEGGAR'S CLOTHES, AND DOING
45:57 RIGHTEOUSNESS ACTS AND NEVER FEELING LIKE HE MEASURED UP,
46:01 OKAY? >> YES.
46:02 >> THAT'S THE PICTURE WE'RE GETTING HERE.
46:05 NOW NONE OF US HAVE TO LIVE THAT KIND OF LIFE.
46:08 GOD WANTS TO BLESS US WITH LIFE THAT IS BOUNTIFUL.
46:13 BUT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN GET TO THAT IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS
46:18 THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. >> AMEN AND THE LORD OUR
46:23 RIGHTEOUSNESS LAYS THE FOUNDATION FROM WHICH SPRINGS
46:26 THE FRUIT IN OUR LIVES. THE BIG DANGER IS TO LET THAT
46:33 FRUIT BE THE MEANS OF SALVATION. BECAUSE WITHOUT THE FRUIT WE'R
46:38 IN TROUBLE. BECAUSE THE FRUIT TESTIFIES TO
46:40 THE FOUNDATION THAT WE NEED. >> EXACTLY.
46:43 >> OKAY. SECOND GUY, DANIEL.
46:45 THIS GUY IS AMAZING. >> OH, HE IS.
46:47 >> YOU HAVE JUST DONE A SERIES ON DANIEL.
46:51 IT'S NOT AIRING YET, BUT YOU HAVE TOLD US ABOUT THAT.
46:54 >> INDEED. >> SO YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE
46:56 STORY. I WANT TO GIVE OUR VIEWERS AN
46:59 OVERVIEW OF THE BOOK OF DANIEL. AND WE START OUT WITH THIS
47:03 INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE. DANIEL'S WHOLE NATION HAS BEEN
47:08 TAKEN CAPTIVE. AND THEY ARE GOING INTO
47:12 CAPTIVITY TO BABYLON BECAUSE OF DISOBEDIENCE, BUT DANIEL IS NOT
47:19 WITH THAT GROUP. DANIEL IS ACTUALLY FAIHFUL TO
47:23 GOD. HE'S TRUE TO GOD.
47:25 IT SEEMS LIKE HE LEARNED ABOUT THE PROPHECIES OF ISAIAH AND
47:32 LISTENED TO JEREMIAH FROM THE TIME HE WAS A LITTLE KID.
47:37 AND THE FIRST THING HE DOES WHEN GETS INTO BABYLON HE SAYS I'M
47:43 NOT EATING THAT FOOD OR DRINKING THAT WINE.
47:46 I'M GOING TO BE TRUE T GOD. AND FROM THAT POINT ON, YOU JUST
47:50 SEE THIS GUY EXPLODE IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
47:52 >> OH, YOU DO. >> WHEN THE KING HAS A DREAM, HE
47:56 GOES IN TO PRAY, AND WHEN HE COMES OUT THE FIRST THING HE
48:01 SAYS IS DON'T DESTROY THE WISEMEN OF BABYLON.
48:05 AND THESE GUYS WOULDN'T THINK A SECOND THOUGHT ABOUT HIM.
48:08 THIS GUY IS EXPLODING IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.
48:11 YOU HAVE TIME AFTER TIME WHERE HE IS COMING TO THE HELP OF
48:17 NEBUCHADNEZZAR, WHETHER THEY ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
48:20 HE IS A UNCK, A CAPTIVE, A PRISONER IN A SENSE, AND YET HE
48:28 CARES FOR THEM. >> YEAH, HE DOES.
48:30 >> AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE SPIRIT OF DANIEL, HE HAS THE
48:33 SPIRIT OF THE HOLY GODS IN HIM. AND EVEN WHEN YOU GET THROUGH TO
48:39 DANIEL 9, LET'S SAY, YOU HAVE THIS GUY PRAYING FOR FORGIVENESS
48:44 AND REPENTANCE OF SIN, THE SINS OF HIS NATION.
48:48 WE SINNED, WE -- WE HAVE FORSAKEN YOUR COMMANDMENTS.
48:54 WHAT, DANIEL? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WE HAVE SINNED?
48:58 YOU ARE A GOOD GUY, LOOK AT YOU. HE IS SO PERFECT THAT THEY CAN'T
49:03 EVEN FIND MUD ON HIM IN THE POLITICAL ARENA.
49:07 I MEAN THEY FOUND MUD ON CARSON, SOME ON.
49:10 [ LAUGHTER ] >> DANIEL IS BLAMELESS.
49:12 THE GUY STANDS WITHOUT A PEER. >> YEAH.
49:16 THE ONLY DIRT WE CAN FIND IS BETWEEN HIM AND HIS GOD.
49:19 >> YEAH. >> BUT NO FANFARE, HE IS JUST
49:23 CONSISTENTLY WALKING WITH THE LORD.
49:25 HE GOES TO PRAY AND GOD GIVES HIM THE ANSWER.
49:29 NO TA-DA! >> CAN YOU DO IT, DANIEL?
49:33 I CAN'T, BUT GOD CAN. >> YEAH, CONSISTENT WALK WITH
49:37 GOD. AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THERE
49:39 ARE NO BELLS OR WHISTLES. YOU ARE JUST YOU AND THE LORD
49:45 WALKING TOGETHER AND GOD WORKING IT OUT FOR YOU, WITH YOU, TO
49:49 YOU, AND PUTS SHOES ON YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
49:53 >> UH-HUH. NOW WE SAID ALL OF THAT TO GET
49:56 TO THE GRAND FINALE, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY DANIEL 10, IT'S THE
50:02 MOST SIGNIFICANT CHAPTER IN DANIEL.
50:05 BUT PROBABLY THE MOST NEGLECTED. >> YOU WANT TO GET TO 11.
50:10 >> YEAH, WHEN YOU TOLD ME YOU DID A PIECE ON DANIEL, I THOUGHT
50:15 I CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH DANIEL 11, YOU KNOW?
50:18 BUT DANIEL 10 IS THE BROCCOLI. WHEN I WAS A KID, I WAS RAISED
50:24 TO EAT MEAT AND POTATOES, AND I CAN'T LIKE VEGETABLES.
50:28 AND I HAD A DOG, AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SLIP THE VEGETABLES
50:33 UNDER THE TABLE TO HIM. >> LUCKY DOG.
50:36 >> THE PROBLEM WAS HE DIDN'T LIKE THEM EITHER.
50:39 BUT HE WOULD EAT ANYTHING OUT OF MY HAND, BUT AS SOON AS HE GOT A
50:44 TASTE OF IT, HE WOULD SPIT IT OUT, AND THEN I WAS IN TROUBLE.
50:51 SO I DECIDED TO EAT THEM AS FAST AS I COULD FIRST, AND THEN I
50:56 COULD FOLLOW UP THAT TERRIBLE AFTER TASTE WITH THE MEAT AND
51:02 THE GRAVY. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO A LOT OF
51:07 TIMES TO DANIEL. BUT THE BROCCOLI, THE VEGETABLES
51:10 IS WHERE THE NUTRIENTS ARE. >> YES.
51:13 >> THE NUTRIENTS ARE WHAT FEED US.
51:16 DANIEL 10 IS FLLED WITH NUTRIENTS.
51:19 THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE. PROPHECIES FAIL.
51:22 KNOWLEDGE? KNOWLEDGE PASSES AWAY.
51:24 YOU HAVE FAITH TO MOVE MOUNTAINS, THAT FAITH -- WHAT WE
51:27 NEED IS THE LOVE. WE NEED THE EXPERIENCE.
51:30 AND DANIEL 10 IS ALL ABOUT THAT. AND IN DANIEL 10 YOU HAVE THIS
51:35 AMAZING -- AGAIN, FOR OUR VIEWERS WHO ARE TRYING TO CATCH
51:39 THE CONSISTENCIES WITH THESE FOUR DIFFERENT GUYS.
51:41 WE WANT TO LOOK AT DANIEL 10, AND LOOK AT VERSES 5 AND 6.
51:47 CAN YOU READ THOSE FOR US, CA. >> I LIFTED MY EYES AND LOOKED
51:54 AND BEHOLD A CERTAIN MAN CLOTHED IN LINEN WHOSE WAIST WAS GURDED
52:04 WITH GOLD OF UFAZ, HIS BODY DOES LIKE A BARREL, HIS EYES LIKE
52:10 TORCHES OF FIRE, HIS ARMS AND FEET LIKE BURNISHED BRONZE IN
52:15 COLOR, AND THE SOUND OF HIS WORDS LIKE THE VOICE OF A
52:19 MULTITUDE. >> WHO IS?
52:20 WHO IS THIS? >> THIS IS THE MESSENGER OF GOD.
52:24 >> WHEN YOU COMPARE THESE VERSUS WITH THE BOOK OF REVELATION, YOU
52:28 FIND THAT THIS IS TALKING ABOUT JESUS.
52:31 >> IT SURELY IS. >> THIS IS TALKING ABOUT JESUS.
52:34 >> IT SURELY IS. >> DANIEL IS ENCOUNTERING
52:38 CHRIST. WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS MAN THAT IS
52:42 BLAMELESS BEFORE HIS POLITICAL RIVALS, THIS MAN THAT IS
52:45 THINKING OF OTHERS, THIS MAN THAT IS COMPLETELY COMMITTED TO
52:49 GOD, THIS MAN THAT IS SO HUMBLE THAT WHEN PEOPLE ASK HIM
52:55 IF -- HE SAYS NO, I CAN'T, BUT GOD CAN.
52:59 WHAT HAPPENS TO HIM AND ALL OF THIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, THIS
53:03 GOODNESS, THIS RIGHT DOING THAT WE SEE IN HIS LIFE, WHAT HAPPENS
53:07 WHEN HE ENCOUNTERS CHRIST? >> NO STRENGTH, NO -- TREMBLING.
53:15 >> YEAH, VERSE 7. >> AND I DANIEL, ALONE SAW THE
53:19 VISION FOR THE MEN WHO WERE WITH ME DID NOT SEE THE VISION, BUT A
53:23 GREAT TERROR FELL ON THEM. SO THAT THEY FLED TO HIDE
53:29 THEMSELVES. THEREFORE I WAS LEFT ALONE,
53:30 VERSE 8, AND SAW THIS GREAT VISION AND NO STRENGTH REMAINED
53:36 IN ME, FOR MY VIGOR TURNED TO FRAILTY, AND I HAD NO STRENGTH.
53:44 >> MY VERSION SAYS I WAS TURNED INTO CORRUPTION.
53:48 HE FELT LIKE HE COULD JUST DIE, THIS RIGHTEOUSNESS MAN -- THE
53:51 POINT HERE -- AND I THINK THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL -- THE POINT
53:57 HERE AS RIGHTEOUSNESS AND AS MUCH GOOD WORKS AS YOU DO, AND
54:04 MY RIGHTEOUSNESS DIDN'T COMPARE TO JOB OR DANIEL.
54:09 SO -- SO WHEN YOU HAVE A MAN WHO'S BLAMELESS, AND HE IS
54:16 CONFRONTED WITH JESUS, WHEN HE SEES CHRIST, WHEN HE SEES THE
54:20 GOODNESS AND RIGHTEOUSNESS AND PERFECTION OF GOD, THERE IS
54:23 NOTHING LEFT. HE FALLS DOWN AS THOUGH HE IS
54:26 DEAD. THERE'S NO GOODNESS, NO
54:29 RIGHTEOUSNESS IN HIM, AND THIS IS THE PICTURE THAT WE FIND ALL
54:33 THROUGH SCRIPTURE. THIS IS WHY THE LORD IS OUR
54:40 RIGHTEOUSNESS. BECAUSE AS GOOD AS WE CAN GET
54:43 FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS, I DON'T KNOW -- YOU WERE TELLING ME YOUR
54:47 AGE, AND I DON'T TELL OUR VIEWERS, UNLESS YOU TELL OUR
54:53 VIEWERS, BUT YOU ARE ONLY 12 YEARS OLDER THAN ME, AND I'M 55.
55:00 SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG YOU HAVE BEEN IN MINISTRY EXACTLY,
55:03 BUT I KNOW IT HAS BEEN LONGER THAN ME.
55:06 AND I HAVE LISTENED TO YOUR SERMONS AND I KNOW CA THAT YOU
55:12 CAN RELATE TO THIS, BECAUSE PEOPLE -- VIEWERS CAN LOOK AT US
55:16 AND HEAR OUR STORIES, HOW GOD USED US, AND THEY CAN READ OUR
55:21 BOOKS AND SAY, MAN, THIS IS A MAN OF GOD HERE.
55:25 THEY PRAY, THEY STUDY THE BIBLE, THEY SHARE TRUTH, THEY ARE
55:29 JUST -- ALL THE WAY THROUGH. BUT WE KNOW -- YOU KNOW AND I
55:33 KNOW, THAT WHEN WE ENCOUNTER CHRIST, OUR EXPERIENCE IS LIKE
55:40 DANIEL'S EXPERIENCE, OUR EXPERIENCE IS LIKE JOB'S
55:43 EXPERIENCE. EVERY SINGLE DAY WE HAVE TO
55:45 MUSTER THE COURAGE TO SAY, GOD HAS GOT THIS.
55:48 I KNOW HE'S THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF OUR FAITH.
55:52 DON'T WE? >> WE DO.
55:54 WE DO. WE HAVE TO.
55:56 WHEN YOU ENCOUNTER CHRIST AND YOU SEE YOUR OWN UNLOVELINESS,
56:01 IT IS NOT DONE IN AN EFFORT TO DEPRESS YOU, IT'S DONE IN AN
56:07 EFFORT TO SHOW YOU THE NEED OF HIM.
56:10 HE HAS GOT YOU THIS FAR AND YOU HAVE TO HOLD HOME TO GET HOME.
56:15 BEING A CHRISTIAN MEANS YOU ARE NOT TOO PROUD SO YOU DON'T LOOK
56:21 DOWN ON ANYBODY, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK UP TO ANYBODY.
56:26 KEEP YOURSELF FOCUSED ON JESUS, AND THEN YOU'RE PRECISELY WHERE
56:30 GOD WANTS DO YOU BE. >> WE HAVE THIS VERTICAL
56:34 CONNECTION WITH GOD, THIS VERTICAL CONNECTION WITH GOD
56:37 THAT KEEPS US HORIZONTALLY EQUAL.
56:40 >> WELL SAID. >> WE'RE FOCUSED ON CHRIST.
56:44 IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE ARE.
56:50 AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE NO LONGER ON THIS HORIZONTAL LEVEL WITH
56:54 EVERYONE ELSE. >> WE FEEL A LITTLE BIT ABOVE --
56:57 >> YEAH. SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN GOD
57:00 BRINGS US BACK DOWN TO THE FOOT OF THE CROSS.
57:04 >> PETER TELLS US WE'RE LOYAL. AND THEN HE SAYS DO'T THINK OF
57:09 YOURSELF ANY HIGHER THAN YOU ARE.
57:11 YOU START WITH JESUS, YOU STAY WITH JESUS, YOU WILL END WITH
57:15 JESUS. AND IT'S ABOUT JESUS ALL THE WAY
57:18 THROUGH. WE ARE COMING DOWN TO THE NETHER
57:21 END OF THIS FIRST HOUR. AND WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK.
57:25 AND PRAYERFULLY, HOPEFULLY YOU ARE GETTING SOMETHING FROM THIS.-AND GETTING TO SEE RIGHTEOUSNESS
57:30 IN A NEW WAY, LOOKING AT IT, THROUGH PERHAPS NEW EYES, AS WE
57:35 LOOK AT MEN WHO ARE ACCOUNTED AS RIGHTEOUSNESS, BUT REALIZE THE
57:39 RIGHTEOUSNESS IS IN AND THROUGH CHRIST.
57:41 WE'LL BE BACK IN TWO MINUTES AND TWO SECONDS.
57:44 AND WE'LL LOOK TO SEE YOU THEN. ♪


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