¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY
LIFE ¤ ¤ SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE,
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REMOVING PAIN ¤ ¤
LORD, LET MY WORDS ¤
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¤ LET MY WORDS ¤ ¤
HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ¤
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¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
¤ ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
¤ ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO
THURSDAY NIGHT HERE AT 3ABN.
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YOU KNOW THIS IS THE TIME THAT
EVERYONE LOKS FORWARD TO, BUT
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IF YOU TURNED TO THIS CHANNEL
FOR THE FIRST TIME, DON'T CHANGE
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THE CHANNEL. THIS
IS A PROGRAM THAT YOU
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CANNOT AFFORD TO MISS. 500
YEARS IN THE MAKING FOR THIS
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PROGRAM TONIGHT. AND WE
HAVE WITH US SOMEONE THAT
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I KNOW IS GOING TO DO DILIGENCE
AND JUSTICE TO WHAT THE LORD HAS
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CALLED HIM TO, AND WE SHARE
THAT, I'M JOHN LOMACANG, AND WE
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HAVE PASTOR JOHN BRADSHAW HERE.
IT'S A PRIVILEGE THAT WE HAVE
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ALLOWED THE LORD TO SYNCHRONIZE
THIS MOMENT FOR THE TOPIC ABOUT
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THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION.
IN JUST A MOMENT I'M GOING TO
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ELEASE PASTOR JOHN BRADSHAW SO
SHARE WITH YOU ALL OF THE THINGS
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HE HAS BEEN COMPILING IN VIDEO
AND PICTURES, AND THERE IS AN
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EXCITING SURROUNDS SURROUNDING
THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION.
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WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A
PROTESTANT IS, AND WHY IT IS SO
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SIGNIFICANT TODAY TO UNDERSTAND
THE PRINCIPALS, AND THE ENTIRE
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MISSION BEHIND THE
PRO PRO REFORMATION.
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BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
SUPPORT, WE KEEP GROWING AND
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GROWING AS WE GET READY FOR THE
COMING OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR
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JESUS CHRIST. BEFORE
WE GO INTO THE PROGRAM,
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WE ALWAYS HAVE WONDERFUL MUSIC,
AND TONIGHT OUR VERY OWN ET
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EVERETT IS GOING TO PLAY A
SONG ENTITLED "BECAUSE HE LIVE."
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¤
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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ET FOR
THAT WONDERFUL SONG, "BECAUSE HE
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LIVES." AND TO
PIGGY BACK OFF OF THAT
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VERY TITLE, "BECAUSE HE LIVES,"
THIS PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT.
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IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT
DENOMINATIONALISM VERSUS
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PROTESTANTISM, BUT THE HEARTBEAT
OF THE -- THE MESSAGE OF JESUS,
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WHY IT'S SO VITALLY IMPORTANT
TO UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES OF THE
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DAY. AND PASTOR
JOHN BRADSHAW GOOD TO
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HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE, JOHN.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>
SOMEBODY MIGHT BE WATCHING OR
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LISTENING TO THIS SHOW, BUT THEY
MAY SAY I DON'T KNOW WHO JOHN
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BRADSHAW IS. SO
GIVE US AN INTRODUCTION.
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>> I'LL TELL YOU WHO IS NOT.
I HAD A LADY WHO CAME OUT TO SEE
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JOHN BRADSHAW, HE WROTE LOTS OF
BOOKS, AND PEOPLE WOULD SOMETIME
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READ MY NAME AND SAY, OH, JOHN
BRADSHAW, SO SHE CAME OUT HER
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AND HER SON, AND THEY WERE JUST
SO -- SHE WAS RATHER SORRY CREST
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FALLEN THAT I WAS JOHN
BRADSHAW AND NOT JOHN BRADSHAW.
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BUT SHE HAPPENED TO LIKE WHAT
SHE WAS HEARING AND HUNG AROUND
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LONG ENOUGH TO BE
BAPTIZED IN THE END.
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SO I'M JOHN
BRADSHAW. NOT JOHN BRADSHAW.
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>> THE SPEAKER AND
DIRECTOR OF IT IS WRITTEN.
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>> YEAH, WHAT A BLESSING TO
BE PART OF THAT ORGANIZATION.
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STARTED 61 YEARS AGO FOR
THE PURPOSE OF ADDING IMPETUS TO
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SHARING EVANGELISM. AND
THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OUR
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SELVES TODAY. IT'S
FUN, AND IT'S EXCITING, AND
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I GET TO WORK WITH A WONDERFUL
TEAM OF PEOPLE, AND I THANK GOD.
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>> AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
MINISTRY VERY MUCH HERE AT 3ABN.
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>> TAKE YOU. >> YOU
HAVE BEEN A PART OF OUR
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FAMILY, WE ARE JUST EXCITED
ABOUT WHAT GOD HAS DONE IN YOUR
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LIFE. BUT IT'S
AMAZING, AND I -- IT
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WOULD BE IRONIC, BUT IT IS
WRITTEN IS YOUR MINISTRY, AND
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YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT PROTESTANTISM.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
WHAT IS PROTESTANTISM?
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>> WELL, FOR SOME CONTEXT, IT
WAS 500 YEARS AGO THIS YEAR ON
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THE 31ST OF OCTOBER, 1517 THAT A
YOUNG GERMAN, AT THE TIME HE WAS
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A COLLEGE UNIVERSITY LECTURER,
MARTIN LUTHER NAILED 95 POINTS
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OF PROTEST TO THE DOOR OF THE
CATHOLIC CHURCH AT WITTENBERG,
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GERMANY. THEY WERE
PROTESTS ABOUT SOME OF
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THE TEACHINGS OR POSITIONS OR
ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE CHURCH OF
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ROME AND IN
PARTICULAR BY THE POPE.
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THAT WAS THE GENESIS OF
WHAT BECAME THE PROTESTANT
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REFORMATION. UP UNTIL
THEN THERE WAS JUST ONE
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CHURCH, THE ROMAN
CATHOLIC CHURCH.-AND IT'S REALLY
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INTERESTING IF YOU LOOK AT THE
PREAMBLE TO THE 95 THESIS, HE
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KNEW IT WAS STIRRING UP
THE BED. AND HE WRITES AS MUCH.
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I'M WRITING THESE FOR
THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION AND
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DEBATE. SO HE
KNEW ON THE EVE OF ALL
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SAINT'S DAY. PEOPLE
WOULD BE COMING TO THIS
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BIG CHURCH. THEY WOULD READ IT.
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A CROWD WOULD GATHER.
THEY WOULD START TALKING, WHAT
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DO YOU THINK HE MEANS?
THAT'S WHA HE WAS TRYING TO
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ENGENDER. BUT THE
POINT WAS, THERE WAS A
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PROTEST ABOUT -- LET'S BOIL IT
DOWN, ABOUT THE MISTEACHINGS OF
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THE CHURCH OF ROME. ONE
WAS SOME OF THE THINGS THEY
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WERE DOING, SOME OF THE WAYS
THEY WERE ACTING, BUT THE CORE
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OF IT WAS WHAT
THEY WERE TEACHING.
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LUTHER SET OUT TO
RECLAIM THE GOSPEL.
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THE GOSPEL HAD
BEEN LOST BY ROME.
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SO A PROTESTANT IN THAT
TRADITION WOULD BE SOMBODY WHO
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IN THAT PROTESTING TRADITION
STANDS FOR THE TRUTH OF THE
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BIBLE, PROTESTS ERROR, AND
CHAMPIONS FOR THE GOSPEL OF
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JESUS CHRIST TO BE PROCLAIMED
IN ITS BEAUTY AND FULLNESS.
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>> AND AT THAT TIME, WHEN YOU
SAID THERE WAS JUST ONE CHURCH,
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IF YOU REWIND A LITTLE
BIT, UNDER THE APPOINTING OF APO
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APOSTLES, BUT AS THEY DEEGAN TO
DIE AWAY, THE CHURCH BECAME MORE
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RECLUSE, AND GRADUALLY THROUGH
THE PERSECUTION OF THE JEWS AND
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THE CHRISTIANS, BEGAN TO PUT THE
CHRISTIAN CHURCH AT A DEFENSE
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WHEN ROME BEGAN TO GROW, SO BY
THE TIME MARTIN LUTHER CAME ON
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THE SCENE, THE CHURCH OF
ROME WAS AT ITS PINNACLE OF ITS
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STRENGTH. >> IT WAS.
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AND ROME HAD COMPROMISED
WITH PAGANISM, TRADITION -- HAD
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FLOODED INTO THE CHURCH.
PEOPLE WERE NOW LOOKING AT THE
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CHURCH ITSELF AS A
VEHICLE OF SALVATION.
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NOT SIMPLY THE VEHICLE FOR
A MESSAGE THAT GOD WOULD WORK
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THROUGH. THE
CHURCH PLACED ITSELF IN A
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POSITION WHERE IF YOU
WANT SALVATION, YOU COME TO US.
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WE ARE WHERE YOU
WILL FIND SALVATION.
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NOW -- AND LET ME SAY THIS,
JOHN, IT'S VERY NUANCED, I'M A
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FORMER ROMAN CATHOLIC, SO I KNOW
SOMETHING ABOUT SITTING ON HARD
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PEWS IN A ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH,
AND IF YOU ASK ONE CATHOLIC HIS
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OR HER VERSION IT WILL DIFFER
FROM ANOTHERS, AND THEN THE
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PRIEST AND PERHAPS THE POPE, AND
THEN WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL WORD?
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BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER
IS, THE CHURCH MAINTAINED -- AND
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MAINTAINS THAT FULL SALVATION IS
FOUND IN THE FELLOWSHIP WITH THE
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ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
SO WITH THE CHURCH OF ROAM
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MAINTAINING THAT S SOL
-- SALVATION IS ONLY FOUND
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IN ITS OWN MEMBERSHIP, WHAT WE
FIND DOWN HERE IN -- THIS LATE
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IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD,
THAT MOST PEOPLE HAVE ABSOLUTELY
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FORGOTTEN THAT THERE WAS A
REFORMATION, WHY THERE WAS A
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REFORMATION, AND I WOULD SUGGEST
THAT EVEN MANY CHRISTIANS, IF
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YOU TALK THROUGH WITH THEM,
THE PRINCIPALS, THEY WOULD SHUG
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THEIR SHOULDERS AND SAY -- IN
FACT LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
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WE HAVE AN EVENT COMING
UP. WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
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>> OKAY. >> WE ARE
IN BELGIUM WHERE THE
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ENGLISH BIBLE TRANSLATOR
WILLIAM TRENDALE DIED.
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AND THERE IS REALLY A NEAT
LITTLE MUSEUM ABOUT WILLIAM
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TRENDALE. AND I WAS
FASCINATED TO FIND OUT
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WHERE THEY STAND THEOLOGICALLY.
BECAUSE HE WAS A REFORM,ER, AND
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HE AIMED A LOT OF HIS ENERGIES
AT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
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IT WAS CORRUPT. SO I
SAID TO HIM, SO YOU ARE
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PROTESTANTS, LIKE WILLIAM.
>> YES, ABSOLUTELY, WE'RE
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PROTESTANTS. I SAID
WHERE DO YOU COME DOWN
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THEOLOGICALLY WITH REGARD TO
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, FOR
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INSTANCE IN DO YOU AGREE WITH
-WILLIAM'S POSITION. AND HE
STOPPED AND THOUGHT ABOUT
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THAT. AND I
SAID YOU KNOW,WILLIAM
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STUDIED THE BOOKS OF REVELATION
IN DANIEL, AND LOOKING IN THE
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BACK OF DANIEL, CLAIM TO THE
CONCLUSION THAT THE VATICAN CITY
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WAS THE
ANTICHRIST OF BIBLE PROPHECY.
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>> RIGHT. >> I
KNOW IF YOU ARE HEARING
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THIS FOR THE FIRST
TIME THIS IS SHOCKING.
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BUT HE BELIEVED THAT THE
CHURCH OF ROAM WAS ANTICHRIST.
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WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE? I
MEAN THESE GUYS ARE FLYING THE
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FLAG FOR HIM.
THEY HI HE IS A HERO.
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AND HE WAS. AND
THEY SAID, OH, NO, THAT'S
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ANCIENT HISTORY. WE
DON'T BOTHER WITH THAT NOW.
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WELL, WHY NOT? AND HE
SAID, OUR CHALLENGE HERE
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IN BELGIUM IS ISLAM, AND THAT'S
A CHALLENGE THAT ALL CHRISTIAN
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CHURCHES FACE, WHETHER YOU
ARE CATHOLIC OR PROTESTANT OR
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WHATEVER. SO WE WORK TOGETHER.
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WE FORGET ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT TO US.
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NOW I'M NOT SUGGESTING HOW THE
FELLOW OUGHT TO BE ACTING, BUT
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I'M SAYING EVEN A PERSON WORKING
AT A MUSEUM DEDICATED TO THE
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LIFE OF AN OUTSTANDING
PROTESTANT REFORM, HAS FORGOTTEN
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THE KEY. >> AND I
MENTIONED IT IS WRITTEN
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IS SO SYNONYMOUS TO THIS
TOPIC BECAUSE THE CATAPULT OF
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PROTESTANTISM WAS THE
BIBLE AND THE BIBLE ONLY.
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SO THE PREMISE WOULD BE, IF YOU
ARE A PROTESTANT, IF YOU ARE A
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PROTESTANT, THEN YOUR BELIEFS
SHOULD BE BASED ON THE BIBLE AND
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THE BIBLE ONLY. >> CORRECT.
00:17:11.59\00:17:13.66
THE QUESTION THAT LUTHER REALLY
-WAS DEALING WITH, WAS THE
QUESTION OF HOW IS A PERSON
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SAVED? JUSTIFICATION.
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INDULGENCES. PURGATORY.
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THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH.
THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE.
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THIS IS WHAT
LUTHER WAS AIMING AT.
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AND FOR LUTHER IT WAS ALL
ABOUT GETTING PEOPLE BACK TO THE
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BIBLE. LET'S
BACK UP A LITTLE BIT.
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1300S, THE ENGLISH BIBLE
TRANSLATOR, TRANSLATED THE BIBLE
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INTO ENGLISH. IT WAS QUICKLY
OBSOLETE, BECAUSE-THE ENGLISH
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LANGUAGE CHANGED. AND OF COURSE
HE INSPIRED JOHN HUSS WHO IN
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BOEHEIMIA SPREAD PROTESTANT
IDEAS. SO WHAT WAS HIS BURDEN TO
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GET THE BIBLE INTO THE HANDS
OF THE PEOPLE, OR GET THE BIBLE
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WRITTEN IN A WAY THAT
PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND IT.
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JOHN HUSS, 100 YEARS AFTER HUSS,
WILLIAM TINDALE CAME ALONG.
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IT IS SO FASCINATING, ISN'T IT,
THAT JUST BEFORE THIS TIME WAS
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WHEN JOHANEST GUTTENBERG
INVENTED THE PRINTING PRESS.
00:18:38.38\00:18:46.25
AND THAT ALLOWED THEM
TO PRINT TRACKS AND TRACKS.
00:18:46.25\00:18:49.46
AND LUTHER WAS SHARING IDEAS AND
THOUGHTS AND SO ON, AND GETTING
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THEM AROUND. SO AS
YOU SAY, IT'S ABOUT THE
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BIBLE. AGAIN,
YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
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LOOKING AT 500 YEARS
AGO. BUT WHAT ABOUT TODAY?
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IT'S ABLE THE
BIBLE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:19:03.54\00:19:08.01
>> THE SUPREMACY AND
AUTHORITY OF THE BIBLE.
00:19:08.01\00:19:12.11
HOW IS IT TO BE UNDERSTOOD?
SHOULD IT BE SOLO, OR IN
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ADDITION TO TRADITION AND THE
TEACHINGS OF THE FATHERS AND SO
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FORTH. >> AND AS
YOU KNOW, TRADITION
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WAS EVENTUALLY THE CHALLENGE
TO THE SCRIPTURES, TO IT IS
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WRITTEN, THUS SAITH
THE LORD. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> AND GRADUALLY THE CHURCH
CONTINUED TO ELEVATE TRADITION
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UNTIL IT WAS ON SUCH PAR WITH
THE BIBLE THAT COULDN'T TELL
00:19:37.67\00:19:45.88
WHERE SCRIPTURE BEGAN.
AND THEN THEY CLAIMED THAT
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TRADITION WAS ABOVE THE BIBLE.
>> YOU HAVE NO OPTION IF YOU ARE
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THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH, YOU HAVE TO.
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IF YOU ARE GOING DOWN THIS
ROAD, YOU SIMPLY HAVE TO SAY,
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TRADITION IS ABOVE THE BIBLE,
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T MAKE THAT
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STATEMENT, THEN THE
BIBLE NEGATES YOUR TRADITION.
00:20:05.10\00:20:07.57
>> AND THAT IS A POSITION, IF I
CAN BRING IT BACK TO TODAY, THAT
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IS STILL HELD BY
THE PRESENT POPE.
00:20:11.54\00:20:14.24
BECAUSE POPE FRANCIS
SAID THAT -- THIS IS AMAZING.
00:20:14.24\00:20:17.38
THE WORD OF GOD
SUPERSEDES THE BIBLE.
00:20:17.38\00:20:20.12
NOW THAT SOUNDS
LIKE AN OXYMORON.
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>> SURE. >> THE
WORD OF GOD SUPERSEDES
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THE BIBLE. THIS
IS A RECENT ARTICLE.
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WHAT IS MEANT BY THAT IS THE
WORD OF GOD AS CONVEYED BY THE
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CHURCH OF ROME
SUPERSEDES THE BIBLE.
00:20:35.56\00:20:38.17
AS WE GIVE IT WINGS, WHAT
WE SAY, SUPERSEDES THE BIBLE.
00:20:38.17\00:20:42.84
THAT'S AN ODD THING
BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED.
00:20:42.84\00:20:45.74
>> SO IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN
TODAY, AND YOU HEAR THE MOST
00:20:45.74\00:20:50.45
POWERFUL CHRISTIAN LEADER IN THE
WORLD SAY OUR TRADITION IS ABOVE
00:20:50.45\00:20:55.78
THE BIBLE, IF YOU HEAR THE
MOST POWERFUL POLITICIAN IN THE
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WORLD, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE
POPE IS, SAY OUR WORD IS ABOVE
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THE WORD OF GOD, YOU KNOW, HE IS
SAYING -- HE IS SAYING GOD GAVE
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US THIS RIGHT. HE IS
SAYING GOD DELIVERED THIS
00:21:09.83\00:21:12.53
TO US, SO WE ARE JUST
DOING WHAT GOD WANTS US TO DO.
00:21:12.53\00:21:17.14
THAT'S FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE.
IF YOU ARE A PROTESTANT, IF YOU
00:21:17.14\00:21:20.81
ARE A BAPTIST, METHODIST,
NAZARENE, NON-DENOMINATIONAL
00:21:20.81\00:21:29.88
CHRISTIAN, SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTIST, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE,
00:21:29.88\00:21:31.82
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS WITH
ALARM, AND SAY JUST A MOMENT THE
00:21:31.82\00:21:37.13
MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE
WORLD HAS TAKEN THE BIBLE AND
00:21:37.13\00:21:41.73
ESSENTIALLY TRASHED IT, BY
SAYING THAT GOD IS SPEAKING
00:21:41.73\00:21:45.90
THROUGH THE CHURCH THROUGH THE
-pFATHERS. SO SAY THAT IS ABOVE
00:21:45.90\00:21:50.77
THE BIBLE, IT IS FRIGHTENING.
>> IT IS, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE
00:21:50.77\00:22:00.38
THE FOUNDATION.-SO WHAT IS
PROTESTANTISM AND WHY IS THE
00:22:00.38\00:22:05.65
WORD CHISTIAN NOT SUFFICIENT
TO IDENTIFY CHRISTIANITY TODAY,
00:22:05.65\00:22:09.36
BECAUSE CHRISTIANITY AND
-- CHRISTIANITY, IT DEPENDS
00:22:09.36\00:22:11.93
ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY
THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:22:11.93\00:22:14.63
>> YOU MENTIONED METHODIST
AND THE WHOLE LIST GOES ON,
00:22:14.63\00:22:20.34
DENOMINATIONALISM,
AND PROTESTANTISM ARE NOT
00:22:20.34\00:22:23.84
SYNONYMOUS. WE TALKED
ABOUT THE MODIFIERS IN
00:22:23.84\00:22:29.68
MATH. THE
MODIFYING FACTOR IS WHERE
00:22:29.68\00:22:32.71
DOES THE CHURCH OF ROME FIT
INTO THIS SCENARIO, AND HAS ITS
00:22:32.71\00:22:39.12
CHANGED ITS POSITION TO
ALLOW THE BIBLE TO BE ABOVE IT.
00:22:39.12\00:22:45.03
SO IF YOU THINK OF IT
PROTESTANTISM BEGAN OUT OF A
00:22:45.03\00:22:49.03
PROTEST. AND
THERE WERE 95 PROTESTS.
00:22:49.03\00:22:51.07
>> OH, YEAH. >> NOT ONE.
00:22:51.07\00:22:54.50
>> THAT'S CORRECT. AND A
FEW YEARS AGO A YOUNG MAN
00:22:54.50\00:22:57.21
THAT SAID -- HIS NAME ESCAPES
ME AT THE PRESENT TIME, BUT HE
00:22:57.21\00:23:02.71
SPOKE TO KENNETH COPELAND, AND
HE SAID -- HIS NAME WILL COME TO
00:23:02.71\00:23:06.01
ME IN A MOMENT -- HE SAYS I
COME AS A VICE TO UNITED STATES
00:23:06.01\00:23:11.65
PROTESTANTS, BECAUSE WE NO
LONGER BELIEVE THAT SALVATION IS
00:23:11.65\00:23:15.19
BY WORKS, BUT
SALVATION IS FOR WORKS.
00:23:15.19\00:23:19.19
>> YOU ARE REFERRING TO THE
BISHOP TONY PARMER, WHO SAID
00:23:19.19\00:23:24.43
FAMOUSLY,
LUTHER'S PROTEST IS OVER.
00:23:24.43\00:23:27.54
IS YOURS? >> HUM.
00:23:27.54\00:23:29.54
>> I DON'T KNOW QUITE WHAT DROVE
THE MAN, BUT HE WAS COMMITTING
00:23:29.54\00:23:34.68
TO NEGATING THE
PROTESTANT REFORMATION.
00:23:34.68\00:23:38.71
THESE PEOPLE WERE PROTESTING.
OF COURSE THE CHURCH 500 YEARS
00:23:38.71\00:23:44.09
AGO IS VERY
DIFFERENT TO WHAT IT IS TODAY.
00:23:44.09\00:23:50.36
TODAY THE ROMAN CATHOLIC
CHURCH IS A BEN EF LENT CHURCH.
00:23:50.36\00:24:03.30
THE POPE STANDINGS FOR
SOME VERY, VERY GOOD PRINCIPALS.
00:24:03.30\00:24:09.04
IT SEEMS TO DO MUCH IN THE
WORLD THAT IS REALLY VERY GOOD
00:24:09.04\00:24:17.52
STANDINGS STRIDE
DANTLY AGAINST ABORTION.
00:24:17.52\00:24:19.49
SO THERE IS THAT, BUT 500 YEARS
AGO, THE CHURCH DIDN'T HAVE A
00:24:19.49\00:24:25.39
CHARITABLE BONE IN ITS BODY.
THEY FLEECED THE POOR, STOLE
00:24:25.39\00:24:28.66
FROM THE POOR, LIED TO THE POOR,
AND THEY USED THEIR SALVATION
00:24:28.66\00:24:35.60
THAT THEY OFFERED TO
PEOPLE AS A WEAPON, AS A THREAT.
00:24:35.60\00:24:41.64
IMAGINE BEING IN PRAGUE WHEN
JOHN HUSS WAS MINISTERING, AND
00:24:41.64\00:24:48.08
THE CITY WAS
PLACED UNDER INTERDEKT.
00:24:48.08\00:24:55.39
THAT'S THE POPE SAYING WE HAVE
LOCKED YOU OUT OF HEAVEN, YOU
00:24:55.39\00:24:58.09
CAN'T RECEIVE THE SACKMENTS,
WE HAVE LOCKED YOU OUT.
00:24:58.09\00:25:02.23
THIS WOULD STRIKE TERROR
INTO THE HEART OF PEOPLE.
00:25:02.23\00:25:05.50
AND THIS WAS -- OF COURSE THERE
WAS NO SUCH, THE CHURCH CAN'T
00:25:05.50\00:25:11.97
PUT ANYBODY UNDER INTERSDICT.
IT WAS A REALLY FASCINATING
00:25:11.97\00:25:25.55
TIME. MARTIN
LUTHER AND OTHERS WOULD
00:25:25.55\00:25:30.56
COMPOS THINGS
CALLED NEWS BALLOTS.
00:25:30.56\00:25:37.50
NEWS BALLOTS, LITTLE SONGS.
THEY WOULD WRITE POEMS, PUT THEM
00:25:37.50\00:25:41.50
TO POPULAR TUNES OF
THE DAY, AND SING THEM.
00:25:41.50\00:25:44.64
AND IN THAT WAY EVEN THE
IGNORANT PEOPLE COULD LEARN THE
00:25:44.64\00:25:50.45
NEWS BALLOTS AND
GIVE THEM TO PEOPLE.
00:25:50.45\00:25:53.48
SO THESE NEWS BALLOTS
WOULD BE SUNG HERE AND THERE.
00:25:53.48\00:26:02.36
LUTHER HAD A HAPPY KNACK OF
REALLY BEING ABLE TO CUT WITH
00:26:02.36\00:26:07.23
HIS TONGUE.
THAT'S NOT ALWAYS GOOD.
00:26:07.23\00:26:10.00
BUT NEVERTHELESS -- IT SAYS
NOW -- OH, I'LL TELL YOU, IT'S
00:26:10.00\00:26:14.37
FROM A SONG CALLED --
NO IT'S NOT FROM A SONG.
00:26:14.37\00:26:18.34
IT'S BASED ON THE TUNE OF
SOMETHING CALLED NOW WE DRIVE
00:26:18.34\00:26:22.18
OUT WINTER. NOW
WE DRIVE OUT WINTER.
00:26:22.18\00:26:30.35
IN GERMAN [ SPEAKING GERMAN ] .
00:26:30.35\00:26:34.59
NOW WE DRIVE OUT THE POPE.
NOW WE DRIVE OUT THE POPE FROM
00:26:34.59\00:26:39.43
CHRIS'S CHURCH AND GOD'S HOUSE.
THERE IN HE HAS REIGNED IN AN
00:26:39.43\00:26:44.43
UNGODLY FASHION. MOVE
ALONG YOUR DAMN SON, YOUR
00:26:44.43\00:26:48.37
HORROR OF BABYLON, YOU ARE THE
ABOMINATION AND ANTICHRIST, FULL
00:26:48.37\00:26:55.04
OF DEATH, LIES AND CUNNING.
>> AND HE PUT THAT TO MUSIC?
00:26:55.04\00:26:58.98
>> AND THEY WOULD
SING IT SHARE IT AROUND.
00:26:58.98\00:27:02.42
NOW LET ME SAY THIS TOO, JOHN,
WHEN WE WATCH THIS SERIES ON
00:27:02.42\00:27:08.79
3ABN 500, WE'RE NOT ON A
TIRADE AGAINST THE CHURCH.
00:27:08.79\00:27:12.96
WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS
HISTORICALLY, AND BIBLICALLY AND
00:27:12.96\00:27:18.17
MAKING PRESENT-DAY APPLICATIONS.
THERE IS VERY LITTLE NEED FOR US
00:27:18.17\00:27:21.67
TO BE SINGING SONGS LIKE
NOW WE DRIVE OUT THE POPE.
00:27:21.67\00:27:30.31
>> RIGHT. >> I
THINK IN LUTHER'S TIME IT
00:27:30.31\00:27:34.02
WAS PROBABLY NECESSARY. BECAUSE
THE CHURCH WAS -OPPRESSIVE, AND
00:27:34.02\00:27:40.99
IT WAS A PRTTY BRUTAL
ORGANIZATION, BURNING PEOPLE AT
THE STAKE, STRANGLING
00:27:40.99\00:27:47.13
PEOPLE, ST. PETER'S BASILICA WAS
BUILT AT LEAST IN PART BY THE
00:27:47.13\00:27:54.24
SALE OF INDULGENCES,
SO IT'S DIFFERENT TODAY.
00:27:54.24\00:27:57.11
SO I THINK -- I WANT TO COUNSEL
AND CAUTION AGAINST GOING AND
00:27:57.11\00:28:03.14
MAKING SHARP THRUSTS
AGAINST PEOPLE WHO SEE THINGS
00:28:03.14\00:28:06.31
DIFFERENTLY. WE CAN
JUST POINT PEOPLE TO
00:28:06.31\00:28:09.08
JESUS AND SHARE THE GOSPEL,
BECAUSE ALTHOUGH LUTHER WAS
00:28:09.08\00:28:12.62
GUNNING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
WERE GUNNING FOR HIM, REALLY, HE
00:28:12.62\00:28:16.52
WAS -- ATTEMPTING
TO RECLAIM THE GOSPEL.
00:28:16.52\00:28:19.46
>> UH-HUH. >> IT
WAS REALLY ABOUT GETTING
00:28:19.46\00:28:21.76
PEOPLE BACK TO THE GOOD NEWS
OF SALVATION BY GRACE ALONE,
00:28:21.76\00:28:26.87
THROUGH FAITH
ALONE, AND CHRIST ALONE.
00:28:26.87\00:28:29.37
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO
THAT'S OUR FOCUS TODAY.
00:28:29.37\00:28:31.51
>> BUT NOT -- NOT -- NOT
IGNORING THE HISTORICAL TREK OF
00:28:31.51\00:28:38.05
THE CHURCH. >> I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
00:28:38.05\00:28:40.58
WE DON'T IGNORE THAT. >> RIGHT.
00:28:40.58\00:28:43.18
>> ONE THING PEOPLE CAN SAY,
IS OH, PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES, AND
00:28:43.18\00:28:47.96
WE'RE SORRY ABOUT THE PAST.
BUT THE CHARACTER OF THE CHURCH
00:28:47.96\00:28:52.19
THEN HELPS YOU UNDERSTAND
SOMETHING ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF
00:28:52.19\00:28:54.96
THE CHURCH NOW. THE
AIMS OF THE CHURCH HAVE NOT
00:28:54.96\00:28:58.77
CHANGED. THE
TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH HAVE
00:28:58.77\00:29:00.64
NOT CHANGED. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:29:00.64\00:29:03.10
>> NOW IT'S THE TEACHINGS OF
THE CHURCH WHEN YOU UNITE THAT
00:29:03.10\00:29:07.21
CHURCH WITH THE POWER OF THE
STATE THAT MAKE THE CHURCH WHAT
00:29:07.21\00:29:10.25
IT WAS 500 YEARS AGO.
REMEMBER, WE OWN SALVATION, YOU
00:29:10.25\00:29:15.45
GET IT FROM US. ONCE
WE HAVE THE STATE TIED UP
00:29:15.45\00:29:18.72
TOGETHER, WE CAN COMPEL
YOU IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS.
00:29:18.72\00:29:23.29
THE CHURCH STILL BELIEVES
[ INAUDIBLE ] THE CHUCH WOULD
00:29:23.29\00:29:25.59
LIKE TO, I BELIVE, UNITE WITH
THE POWER OF THE STATE AGAIN.
00:29:25.59\00:29:29.10
WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE TO. IN
FACT IF YOU LOOK IN THE BOOK
00:29:29.10\00:29:34.20
OF REVELATION, WE FINE
SOME FASCINATING THINGS IN THAT
00:29:34.20\00:29:41.48
REGARD. >> UH-HUH.
00:29:41.48\00:29:42.64
>> SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE
HISTORY, IT REALLY REVEALS, I
00:29:42.64\00:29:47.18
THINK, THE TRUE MOTIVES OF A
CHURCH CHA HAS MANAGED TO CLOTHE
00:29:47.18\00:29:52.05
ITSELF IN FEAR CLOTHING, BUT
STRIP AWAY THE OUTER GARMENTS,
00:29:52.05\00:29:57.16
AND YOU WILL SEE
PLENTY TO ALARM YOU.
00:29:57.16\00:30:00.53
>> SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
PROTESTANT REFORMATION, IN THE
00:30:00.53\00:30:05.30
CONTEXT OF THE PROTESTANT
REFORMATION, THIS 500-YEAR-OLD
00:30:05.30\00:30:10.37
SPLIT FROM ROME, THE LAST
THREE POPES, AND I USE THAT
00:30:10.37\00:30:14.71
CONTEXT -- POPE JOHN PAUL
II, POPE BENEDICT, AND NOW POPE
00:30:14.71\00:30:21.98
FRANCIS. AND THE
CALL WAS CHRISTIAN
00:30:21.98\00:30:24.75
UNITY. JEWS,
PROTESTANTS, ANGLICANS,
00:30:24.75\00:30:31.23
IT'S TIME TO UNITE AGAIN.
BUT THE UNITY IS NOT BASED ON
00:30:31.23\00:30:35.26
THE SCRIPTURES, BUT
BASED ON THE AUTHORITY TO ROME.
00:30:35.26\00:30:39.30
SO IT TAKES YOU BACK TO THE
SAME PREMISE OF THE PROTESTANT
00:30:39.30\00:30:45.21
REFORMATION, THE REASON WHY
THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION WAS
00:30:45.21\00:30:49.54
CATAPULTED VIA
THE AUTHORITY OF ROME.
00:30:49.54\00:30:52.08
>> YES. >> IT'S
GET TOGETHER UNDER THE
00:30:52.08\00:30:56.85
RECOGNITION OF THE
CONTINUAL AUTHORITY OF ROME.
00:30:56.85\00:31:00.29
>> YEAH, WHEN I WAS A KID, I WAS
RAISED, AS I MENTIONED EARLER
00:31:00.29\00:31:07.00
AS A ROMAN CATHOLIC. AND
A GROUP OF US IN MY -- IN MY
00:31:07.00\00:31:12.50
CHURCH -- IN MY TOWN,
WHICH DIDN'T LIKE THIS.
00:31:12.50\00:31:17.84
WE WERE BEING
INVITED TO THIS SERVICE.
00:31:17.84\00:31:21.68
WE DON'T WANT TO, BECAUSE ALL OF
THOSE FOLKS WERE GOING TO HELL.
00:31:21.68\00:31:27.08
WHY WOULD WE DO THAT FOR?
SEVERAL OF US WERE TALKING TO
00:31:27.08\00:31:30.59
THE PRIEST ONE DAY, AND WE SAID
HELP US UNDERSTAND THIS ECUISM.
00:31:30.59\00:31:44.70
AND I SAID I
DON'T WANT TO CHANGE.
00:31:44.70\00:31:50.37
HE SAID DON'T WORY, THERE WILL
BE CHANGE, BUT IT WON'T BE US.
00:31:50.37\00:31:54.24
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
IT'S INTRESTING, ONE OF THE
00:31:54.24\00:31:57.68
SCHOLARS THAT WE INTERVIEW
IN OUR SERIES 500 STUDIES AT A
00:31:57.68\00:32:04.99
UNIVERSITY IN GENEVA,
SWITZERLAND, AND FOR DECADES
00:32:04.99\00:32:11.73
NOW, THIS INSTITUTION HAS BEEN
ACCEPTING STUDENTS FROM MANY,
00:32:11.73\00:32:15.23
MANY, MANY DIFFERENT CHRISTIAN
BACKGROUNDS, AND INCULCATING IN
00:32:15.23\00:32:19.83
THEM THE
PRINCIPALS OF EX-CUMINISM.
00:32:19.83\00:32:25.41
SO FOR DECADES NOW, LEADERS
IN MANY DIFFERENT CHRISTIAN
00:32:25.41\00:32:31.25
FELLOWSHIPS HAVE BEEN SPOON
FED THE DOCUMENT OF ECUMINISM.
00:32:31.25\00:32:39.22
>> DESCRIBE THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO
HAVE NOT HEARD THAT WORD BEFORE.
00:32:39.22\00:32:43.36
>> IT SEEKS TO BRING
CHURCHES TOGETHER IN UNITY.
00:32:43.36\00:32:48.06
MAN, THERE IS A LOT
ABOUT UNITY, OF COURSE.
00:32:48.06\00:32:51.33
IF I'M A PASTOR IN A TOWN, AND
I HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, AS YOU
00:32:51.33\00:32:56.71
HAVE, WE DON'T WANT TO
BE AT WAR WITH ANYBODY.
00:32:56.71\00:32:59.71
WE WANT TO WAL SHOULDER TO
SHOULDER WITH OUR CHRISTIAN
00:32:59.71\00:33:03.11
BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF WHATEVER
DENOMINATION AS FAR AS WE CAN.
00:33:03.11\00:33:07.05
THERE IS A LOT THAT WE COULD
MAYBE LEARN FROM EACH OTHER, BUT
00:33:07.05\00:33:14.86
IT SEEKS TO BRING
EVERYBODY TOGETHER ULTIMATELY
00:33:14.86\00:33:22.83
TO -- FOCUSING NOT ON WHAT
DIVIDES, BUT ON WHAT UNITED.
00:33:22.83\00:33:29.57
SO IN OTHER WORDS JUST
FORGET ABOUT YOUR DOCTRINAL
00:33:29.57\00:33:38.18
SINGULAIRTIES.
BECAUSE THAT'S DIVISIVE.
00:33:38.18\00:33:40.68
LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT JESUS.
WHICH, I MEAN, AGAIN, HOW DO YOU
00:33:40.68\00:33:46.72
ARGUE THAT? LET'S
JUST TALK ABOUT THE CROSS
00:33:46.72\00:33:49.49
AND FORGET
ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE.
00:33:49.49\00:33:51.06
EXCEPT THE GOSPEL TAKES
YOU TO THESE OTHER THINGS.
00:33:51.06\00:33:54.00
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND
ALSO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
00:33:54.00\00:33:57.30
UNITY AND UL TIM MAYLY
UNITY UNDER THE POPE WHEN THE
00:33:57.30\00:34:02.34
LUTHERANS HAVE BEEN BIDDEN TO
COME BACK AND UNITE WITH ROME,
00:34:02.34\00:34:06.74
IT'S AS LON AS YOU WILL
RECOGNIZE THE AUTHORITY OF THE
00:34:06.74\00:34:11.15
POPE OF ROME. >> HUM.
00:34:11.15\00:34:13.08
>> VERY, VERY IMPORTANT, THAT.
SO MARTIN LUTHER SAID WE WILL
00:34:13.08\00:34:19.25
NOT RECOGNIZE THAT AUTHORITY.
THE POPE DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT
00:34:19.25\00:34:22.89
TO ELEVATE HIS
LAWS ABOVE LAWS TODAY.
00:34:22.89\00:34:25.86
THE POPE DOESN'T HAVE THE RIGHT
TO GRANT OR SELL INDULGENCES,
00:34:25.86\00:34:31.00
AND LET'S BE SURE WE COME
BACK TO THAT, BECAUSE THOSE
00:34:31.00\00:34:34.94
INDULGENCES THAT LIEUTENANT
PROER TESTED ABOUT THEN EXIST
00:34:34.94\00:34:38.44
TODAY. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:34:38.44\00:34:39.44
>> VERY MUCH SO. >> UH-HUH.
00:34:39.44\00:34:43.18
>> LIEUTENANT WAS ALL ABOUT
SAYING THE CHURCH DOESN'T HAVE
00:34:43.18\00:34:47.18
AUTHORITY, CHRIST HAS AUTHORITY.
>> EVEN TO FORGIVE SIN?
00:34:47.18\00:34:52.32
>> WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
LET'S STOP AND THING ABOUT WHAT
00:34:52.32\00:34:55.76
THIS MEANS. THAT
WE WOULD RECOGNIZE THE
00:34:55.76\00:34:58.16
AUTHORITY OF A CHURCH THAT
CLAIMS THE PREROGATIVE TO BE
00:34:58.16\00:35:02.13
ABLE TO FORGIVE SIN.
NOW, AGAIN, I SAID THIS IS
00:35:02.13\00:35:09.10
NUANCED, THE CHURCH WILL SAY,
OH, GOD FORGIVES, WE MERELY PASS
00:35:09.10\00:35:13.88
ON THE FORGIVENESS.
THERE'S PRECIOUS LITTLE
00:35:13.88\00:35:17.98
DIFFERENCE. THE FACT
OF THE MATTER IS THAT'S
00:35:17.98\00:35:20.82
STILL UNTRUE, AND
IT'S STILL UNBIBLICAL.
00:35:20.82\00:35:25.15
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
YOU STILL HAVE TO GO TO THE
00:35:25.15\00:35:28.12
PRIEST TO HAVE SIN DISPENSED.
THERE IS ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN
00:35:28.12\00:35:35.56
GOD AND MEN, THE
MAN CHRIST JESUS.
00:35:35.56\00:35:38.50
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
SO WE'RE DEALING WITH
00:35:38.50\00:35:43.71
MONSTROSITIES, WE'RE DEALING
WITH HERS ARESY OF THE WORST
00:35:43.71\00:35:51.38
KIND. THERE IS
ONLY ONE WAY TO THE
00:35:51.38\00:35:56.28
FATHER, THAT'S
THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.
00:35:56.28\00:35:59.85
>> THAT'S RIGHT. LET
ME ADD TO THAT, AND EVEN
00:35:59.85\00:36:03.96
CLARIFY -- NOT THAT IT NEEDS
CLARIFICATION, BUT WE'RE NOT
00:36:03.96\00:36:07.76
TALKING ABOUT SPLITTING
HAIRS. >> NO, WE'RE NOT.
00:36:07.76\00:36:10.47
>> WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WHAT
IS THE BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
00:36:10.47\00:36:14.70
WHAT I BELIEVE,
AND WHAT YOU BELIEVE.
00:36:14.70\00:36:16.84
THIS IS BASED ON THE AUTHORITY
OF GOD'S WORD, AS COMPARED TO A
00:36:16.84\00:36:24.68
MONOLITHIC INSTITUTION OF MORE
THAN A BILLION STRONG, AND MOST
00:36:24.68\00:36:27.75
OF MY FAMILY IS CATHOLIC.
SO WE ARE NOT SPEAKING AGAINST
00:36:27.75\00:36:31.89
CAT -- CATHOLICS.
THIS WAS A SYSTEM THAT WAS
00:36:31.89\00:36:39.79
ADOPTED BY ROME.
THE WORD CATHOLIC MEANS
00:36:39.79\00:36:43.77
UNIVERSAL. SO ROME
CONSIDERS ITSELF AS A
00:36:43.77\00:36:48.70
UNIVERSAL POWER. ROME
CATHOLICISM, THE UNIVERSAL
00:36:48.70\00:36:56.34
CHURCH OF ROME. BUT
FOR THOSE WHO ADHERE TO
00:36:56.34\00:36:59.95
THESE BELIEVES DO RECOGNIZE
THE AUTHORITY OF THE POPE.
00:36:59.95\00:37:03.59
>> TOUGH QUESTION. AND
THIS IS ABOUT THE GOSPEL.
00:37:03.59\00:37:06.52
>> RIGHT. >> THE
GOSPEL SAYS SALVATION IS
00:37:06.52\00:37:11.49
BY GRACE THROUGH JESUS
CHRIST. WHEN PAUL WROTE TO THE
00:37:11.49\00:37:18.20
GALATIANS, HE SAID I MARVEL THAT
YOU HAVE MOVED TO ANOTHER GAS
00:37:18.20\00:37:24.17
PELL. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:37:24.17\00:37:26.68
>> THIS IS PRETTY BIG STUFF.
EITHER JESUS SAVES YOU OR THE
00:37:26.68\00:37:31.55
POPE SAVES YOU. IT'S
EITHER CHRIST THROUGH
00:37:31.55\00:37:35.38
FAITH, OR CHRIST THROUGH PENANCE
AND THE AUTHORITY OF THE CHURCH
00:37:35.38\00:37:39.69
GRANTED ULTIMATELY
BY THE POPE. >> OKAY.
00:37:39.69\00:37:42.06
NOW I WANT TO TRANSITION TO TALK
ABOUT YOUR SERIES, BUT LET ME
00:37:42.06\00:37:46.49
JUST TRANSITION -- OR --
OR TO THAT TOPIC BY ASKING THE
00:37:46.49\00:37:50.67
QUESTION, SO WHY IS
PROTESTANTISM TODAY STILL
00:37:50.67\00:37:58.97
NECESSARY? >> MAN,
IT'S HARD TO FIND A
00:37:58.97\00:38:01.34
PROTESTANT NOW. >> OKAY.
00:38:01.34\00:38:02.94
>> THERE ARE
FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
00:38:02.94\00:38:05.48
WHY IS
PROTESTANTISM NECESSARY TODAY?
00:38:05.48\00:38:07.88
BECAUSE THE GOSPEL
IS NECESSARY TODAY.
00:38:07.88\00:38:09.72
>> OKAY. >> THE
GOSPEL -- THE GOSPEL HAS
00:38:09.72\00:38:13.39
GOT TO THE WORLD BEFORE
JESUS COMES BACK, JESUS SAID.
00:38:13.39\00:38:18.49
NOT PROTESTANTISM
OBSCURES THE GOSPEL.
00:38:18.49\00:38:21.40
THE PROTESTANTS STOOD FOR
THE GOSPEL IN THE FACE OF ERROR.
00:38:21.40\00:38:25.43
>> UH-HUH. >> ALSO
WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS THE
00:38:25.43\00:38:29.27
MONOLITHIC CHURCH THAT YOU
SPOKE OF, GAINING IN POWER AND
00:38:29.27\00:38:33.58
PRESTIGE, SEEKING TO
CALL THE WORLD BACK TO ITSELF.
00:38:33.58\00:38:37.78
A CHURCH THAT CLAIMS
TRUE SALVATION IS FOUND IN IT.
00:38:37.78\00:38:41.68
NOW YOU MIGHT SAY, JUST --
LET PEOPLE BE, BUT WHEN I SAY
00:38:41.68\00:38:47.39
PROTESTANTISM IS NECESSARY
TODAY, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
00:38:47.39\00:38:50.56
PLACARDS WALKING IN THE STREET,
AND MAKE ATTACKS ON PEOPLE JUST
00:38:50.56\00:38:57.37
BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN TO
BE FROM A CERTAIN CHURCH.
00:38:57.37\00:38:59.70
THE PROTESTANTS THAT GOD WANTS
US TO BE ARE CHRISTIANS WHO LIFT
00:38:59.70\00:39:04.61
UP THE BIBLE AND
TEACH THE WORD OF GOD.
00:39:04.61\00:39:07.98
YOU CAN BE A PROTESTANT -- THE
PROTESTANT OF ALL PROTESTANTS BY
00:39:07.98\00:39:13.78
LIFTING UP JESUS, EXSALTING THE
CHURCH, UNSHACKLED FROM PENANCE
00:39:13.78\00:39:24.23
AND INDULGENCE, AND TRADITION,
AND IN EARTHLY PRIESTHOOD.
00:39:24.23\00:39:31.23
THESE THINGS HAVE NO
PLACE IN THE EXPERIENCE OF A
00:39:31.23\00:39:35.80
GOSPEL-ORIENTED
CHRISTIAN, NON-AT ALL.
00:39:35.80\00:39:38.14
>> YOU USED A WORD THAT I
WANT TO AMPLIFY, THE WORD TRUTH.
00:39:38.14\00:39:42.21
BECAUSE TRUTH SEEMS TO BE A
WORD THAT GETS A BAD WRAP IN
00:39:42.21\00:39:46.45
CHRISTIAN CIRCLES TODAY, BECAUSE
PEOPLE SAY WHAT YOUR TRUTH IS,
00:39:46.45\00:39:50.92
IS NOT NECESSARILY MY TRUTH.
AND WHAT IS HIS TRUTH IS NOT
00:39:50.92\00:39:55.19
NECESSARILY MY TRUTH, AND
WHAT IS THEIR TRUTH, DOES NOT
00:39:55.19\00:40:00.56
NECESSARILY JIVE IN
THIS CIRCLE OF DENOMINATIONS.
00:40:00.56\00:40:07.24
>> THERE HAS BEEN A SOCIETAL
SHIFT, AND THESE DAYS YOU CAN DO
00:40:07.24\00:40:12.24
WHATEVER YOU WANT. YOU
CAN WEAR WHAT YOU WANT.
00:40:12.24\00:40:14.98
AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
YOU CAN HAVE WHATEVER KIND OF
00:40:14.98\00:40:19.15
HAIR YOU WANT. YOU CAN
TATTOO YOURSELF HOWEVER
00:40:19.15\00:40:22.22
YOU WANT. NO ONE CAN CRITICIZE.
00:40:22.22\00:40:24.72
ALL RIGHT. NOT THAT
I THINK IT'S ALL RIGHT.
00:40:24.72\00:40:29.02
BUT, OKAY, TO EACH HIS OWN.
YOU CAN MARRY WHO YOU WANT, LIVE
00:40:29.02\00:40:34.20
WITH WHO YOU WANT,
BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT.
00:40:34.20\00:40:37.27
OF COURSE SOME OF THESE THINGS
ARE RIGHTS, BUT NOW THERE'S JUST
00:40:37.27\00:40:40.70
NO PLACE FOR -- FOR
CALLING A SPADE A SPADE.
00:40:40.70\00:40:44.21
>> ABSOLUTES. >>
YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE
00:40:44.21\00:40:47.04
ABSOLUTES. AND THIS
HAS BEEN DRILLED INTO
00:40:47.04\00:40:50.61
US THROUGH ACADEMIA THROUGH THE
-YEARS. RELATIVISM IS TAUGHT.
00:40:50.61\00:41:01.79
THERE HAS BEEN A SOCIETAL SHIFT
AGAINST -- LET ME PUT IT THIS
00:41:01.79\00:41:06.53
WAY, AGAINST JUDGING, AGAINST
TAKING A STAND FOR SOMETHING,
00:41:06.53\00:41:10.57
AGAINST CLAIMING TO BE RIGHT
ABOUT SOMETHING, THERE HAS BEEN
00:41:10.57\00:41:13.64
A SOCIETAL SHIFT. AND
WHEN YOU STAND UP AND SAY
00:41:13.64\00:41:17.07
THIS IS THE TRUTH, THERE ARE
SOME PEOPLE THAT WILL TAKE THAT
00:41:17.07\00:41:19.67
AS CONDEMNATION. >> HUM.
00:41:19.67\00:41:21.68
SO NOW -- DID YOU
FINISH YOUR THOUGHT?
00:41:21.68\00:41:24.98
>> SURE. >> NOW
YOU GET BAK TO THE
00:41:24.98\00:41:28.02
FOUNDATION OF PROTESTANTISM, IF
THERE WAS NO MEASUREMENT, LIKE
00:41:28.02\00:41:32.99
WE TALKED ABOUT THE CHARADE
OF YOUR GPS SENDING YOU ALL OVER
00:41:32.99\00:41:36.93
THE PLACE. >> YEAH,
I HAVE GOT A GPS THAT
00:41:36.93\00:41:40.80
DOESN'T KNOW ANY ABSOLUTE TRUTH.
IT'S ALL RELATIVES.-YOU OUGHT TO
00:41:40.80\00:41:45.37
SEE IT. IT'S ON MY PHONE.
I'LL START WHERE I AM, AND IT
00:41:45.37\00:41:48.84
PUTS ME MAYBE 500 YARDS
OUT IN THE COUNTRY SOMEPLACE.
00:41:48.84\00:41:52.51
IT DOESN'T KNOW WHERE I AM OR
WHERE I'M TRAVELING, SO I GUESS
00:41:52.51\00:41:58.51
I NEED A NEW DEVICE. >>
TO GOD'S WORD, THE UNDILUTED
00:41:58.51\00:42:06.05
WORD OF GOD -- JOHN 17:17,
SANCTIFY THEM THROUGH THE TRUTH.
00:42:06.05\00:42:15.80
THY WORD IS TRUTH. AND
THEN YOU HAVE 500 YEARS OF
00:42:15.80\00:42:20.70
TRADITION THAT BECAME
AN EROSION OF THE TRUTH.
00:42:20.70\00:42:23.27
NOW TODAY WE HAVE
DENOMINATIONALISM RATHER THAN
00:42:23.27\00:42:28.24
RUTH-BASED
CHRISTIANITY. >> THAT'S SO TRUE.
00:42:28.24\00:42:31.05
>> SO WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT THE 500TH ANNIVERSARY OF
00:42:31.05\00:42:38.15
PROTESTANTISM REFORMATION.
THE WORD RELEVANT A VERY
00:42:38.15\00:42:43.02
CONTEMPORARY WORD. YOU
SAY THAT IS NOT RELEVANT ANY
00:42:43.02\00:42:45.89
LONGER, BUT WE'RE GETTING BACK
TO THE IDEA THAT ROME'S POSITION
00:42:45.89\00:42:52.43
DOCTRINALLY AND
ACUMENICALLY HASN'T CHANGES.
00:42:52.43\00:43:08.45
LET'S GET BACK TO THE --
UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF ROME.
00:43:08.45\00:43:15.62
THEREFORE IS PROTESTANTISM
STILL RELEVANT TODAY?
00:43:15.62\00:43:22.26
>> THAT'S WHY I THINK STARTING
OCTOBER 23RD, NINE NIGHTS
00:43:22.26\00:43:28.14
STRAIGHT, WE'LL BE LOOKING
AT THE VARIOUS ASPECTS OF TH
00:43:28.14\00:43:33.44
PROTESTANTISM REFORMATION.
I'LL SHARE A MIRACLE STORY
00:43:33.44\00:43:38.31
ACTUALLY HAPPENING. A
REAL MIRACLE, AND ALSO, I WANT
00:43:38.31\00:43:43.05
TO TAKE YOU TO THE HEADQUARTERS
CHURCH FOR THE SOCIETY OF JESUS.
00:43:43.05\00:43:47.72
THE SOCIETY OF
JESUS IS THE JESUIT ORDER.
00:43:47.72\00:43:50.73
AND I WANT TO TAKE YOU TO THE
HEADQUARTERS JESUIT CHURCH IN
00:43:50.73\00:43:56.70
ROME, IT'S LITTLE BIT A MILE
AND A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM THE
00:43:56.70\00:44:00.17
VATICAN CITY. I WANT
TO SHOW YOU SOME VERY
00:44:00.17\00:44:04.71
INTERESTING STATUES,
INSDE THE CHURCH OF JESUS.
00:44:04.71\00:44:11.95
THE HEAD -- JESUIT
HQ IN THE CITY OF ROME.
00:44:11.95\00:44:16.58
I HAVE SOME
FOOTAGE I WANT TO SHOW YOU.
00:44:16.58\00:44:19.29
I THINK YOU WILL
BE INTERESTED IN THAT.
00:44:19.29\00:44:22.69
>> AND YOU ALSO
BROUGHT SOME STILL GRAPHICS.
00:44:22.69\00:44:26.49
THAT MAYBE WE CAN
LOOK AT NOW. >> YEAH.
00:44:26.49\00:44:29.00
>> YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK
IN PUTTING THIS PERIOD TOGETHER.
00:44:29.00\00:44:33.40
>> I'LL WALK THROUGH THE TOPICS
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT
00:44:33.40\00:44:36.81
THE PICTURES. THE
FIRST IS GOING TO BE CALLED
00:44:36.81\00:44:40.61
500. THAT'S THE
NAME OF THE SERIES.
00:44:40.61\00:44:43.35
IT'S AN OVERVIEW
OF THE REFORMATION.
00:44:43.35\00:44:46.61
THE SECOND PROGRAM IS ABOUT
PATRICK, WHICH I KNOW WAS WELL
00:44:46.61\00:44:51.19
BEFORE THE REFORMATION, BUT HE
WAS A REFORMATION ROUNDED FIGURE
00:44:51.19\00:44:55.99
THIS THE THIRD PROGRAM DEALS
WITH WILIAM TINDALE, WE'RE IN
00:44:55.99\00:45:02.60
IRELAND, THE TINDALE PROGRAM, WE
GOT A [ INAUDIBLE ] IN ENGLAND,
00:45:02.60\00:45:07.40
AS WELL AS OXFORD
AND BRUSSELS, BELGIUM.
00:45:07.40\00:45:12.51
THAT'S WHERE HE DIED. THE
FOURTH PROGRAM IS ABOUT THE
00:45:12.51\00:45:17.75
ROMAN CATHOLIC
CHURCH, OR IS THAT ABOUT --
00:45:17.75\00:45:20.22
>> YES, IT IS ABOUT
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.
00:45:20.22\00:45:24.09
THAT'S CALLED ROME
AND THE REFORMATION.
00:45:24.09\00:45:26.65
OF COURSE THAT WAS THE OBJECT
OF THE PROTEST BY LUTHER, HUSS,
00:45:26.65\00:45:32.76
JOHN CALVIN, AND JOHN
KNOCKS AND SOME OF THE OTHERS.
00:45:32.76\00:45:37.80
THEN THE NEXT PROGRAM
MARTIN LUTHER, HERE I STAND.
00:45:37.80\00:45:42.50
SO WE'RE IN WITTENBERG WHERE HE
BURNED THE PAPAL BULL AND NAILED
00:45:42.50\00:45:49.61
THE 95 THESIS TO
THE DOOR OF THE CHURCH.
00:45:49.61\00:45:53.35
THEN FROM GERMANY
TO SPAIN AND ROME.
00:45:53.35\00:45:56.08
IT WAS IN A LITTLE TOWN ONCE
KNOWN AS LOIOLA THAT A MAN WAS
00:45:56.08\00:46:07.96
BORN. HE REALIZED
THE PROTESTANTS WERE
00:46:07.96\00:46:10.70
GAINING A LOT OF
GROUND ON THE CHURCH.
00:46:10.70\00:46:12.60
HE SAID I CAN HELP.
THE COUNTER REFORMATION WAS
00:46:12.60\00:46:16.64
BORN. IT STAKE --
TAKES YOU TO SPAIN
00:46:16.64\00:46:24.78
AND ROME. AND THEN
THE FOCUS SHIFTS FROM
00:46:24.78\00:46:29.15
EUROPE TO THE UNITED STATES WITH
THE PILL GRAM FATHERS ARRIVING.
00:46:29.15\00:46:37.09
OUR PROGRAM NUMBER 7 -- KEEP
IN MIND, GODS IS WANTING TO TAKE
00:46:37.09\00:46:43.26
THE TRUTH FROM WAY BACK THEN ALL
THE WAY DOWN TO OUR DAY TO THE
00:46:43.26\00:46:47.00
SECOND COMING OF
JESUS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:46:47.00\00:46:50.07
>> AFTER WILLIAMS WE GO
TO A LITTLE -- LITTLE CORN OF
00:46:50.07\00:46:54.21
NEW YORK STATE, AND WE VISIT THE
FARM ONCE OWNED BY A MAN NAMED
00:46:54.21\00:46:59.41
WILLIAM MILLER.
WILLIAM MILLER PROCLAIMED THAT
00:46:59.41\00:47:01.95
JESUS WAS COMING AGAIN, AND
REALLY FOCUSED NORTH AMERICA ON
00:47:01.95\00:47:05.95
THAT TEACHING -- ON THAT TRUTH.
AND THEN OUR FINAL PROGRAM, THE
00:47:05.95\00:47:10.26
REFORMATION FINISHED, WE GO TO A
LITTLE TOWN CALLED WASHINGTON IN
00:47:10.26\00:47:14.10
THE STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND
WE FOCUS ON A MOVEMENT THAT GOD
00:47:14.10\00:47:19.93
WOULD RAISE UP FOR THE PURPOSE
OF GETTING THE REFORMATION
00:47:19.93\00:47:23.54
FINISHED. DO YOU
WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT
00:47:23.54\00:47:25.11
THE PICTURES? >> LET'S DO THAT.
00:47:25.11\00:47:28.34
>> THIS ONE IS IN FRONT OF DOWN
CATHEDRAL IN PATRICK IRELAND.
00:47:28.34\00:47:36.79
>> WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT
PATRICK IN THE SECOND HOUR.
00:47:36.79\00:47:39.32
>> YEAH, ULTIMATELY
THIS IS A NICE SHOT.
00:47:39.32\00:47:42.66
WE FILMED AT THE GIANTS CAUSEWAY
ON THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THE
00:47:42.66\00:47:48.40
ISLAND OF IRELAND.
AND YOU SEE THOSE COLUMNS,
00:47:48.40\00:47:54.67
AREN'T THEY FASCINATING?
>> ARE THEY NATURAL?
00:47:54.67\00:47:58.11
>> YEAH, ALL NATURAL.
THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
00:47:58.11\00:48:01.61
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
SO WE TAKE YOU THERE, AND
00:48:01.61\00:48:03.95
THEN -- LET'S LOOK AT THIS.
I HAVE A MIRACLE STORY TO TELL
00:48:03.95\00:48:08.52
YOU. IT DIDN'T TAKE PLACE HERE.
00:48:08.52\00:48:11.29
BUT IT DID INVOLVE THAT DRONE.
THAT IS SPAIN, THE NORTHERN
00:48:11.29\00:48:16.89
COAST OF SPAIN. THIS
IS BACK TO IRELAND, THESE
00:48:16.89\00:48:21.20
ARE SHEEP, BUT  THEY
BAAAWITH AN IRISH ACCENT.
00:48:21.20\00:48:33.27
HERE WE ARE IN FRONT OF
THE COLISEUM, ITSELF NOT A
00:48:33.27\00:48:40.08
REFORMATION, BUT ROME
OF COURSE REFORMATION.
00:48:40.08\00:48:42.38
THE COLISEUM WAS BUILT WITH
THE PROCEEDS REALIZED FROM THE
00:48:42.38\00:48:47.99
DESTRUCTION OF
JERUSALEM. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:48:47.99\00:48:54.36
>> THIS IS WITTENBERG, THOSE
ARE THE DOORS -- NOT THOSE VERY
00:48:54.36\00:48:59.33
DOORS, THOSE DOORS ARE NEW, BUT
THAT'S THE DOORWAY WHERE MARTIN
00:48:59.33\00:49:06.44
LUTHER NAILED THE 95 THESIS.
ROME IS A MAGNIFICENT PLACE.
00:49:06.44\00:49:18.95
IT REALLY IS. AND HERE IS ROME.
00:49:18.95\00:49:22.06
AGAIN, IT'S JUST A STREET SCENE.
THIS SHOULDN'T GET YOU TOO
00:49:22.06\00:49:25.99
EXCITED, I SUPPOSE FROM
AN AESTHETIC POINT OF VIEW.
00:49:25.99\00:49:30.23
THIS IS KIND OF NICE, CELTIC
CROSS BACK AMONG SOME RUINS IN
00:49:30.23\00:49:36.14
ANCIENT PART OF IRELAND, SO
REALLY -- SOME -- SOME GREAT
00:49:36.14\00:49:40.31
PICTURES, AND HERE WE
ARE BACK AT DOWN CATHEDRAL.
00:49:40.31\00:49:44.01
COMING UP HERE THERE IS A
PICTURE OF THE GRAV OF ST.
00:49:44.01\00:49:48.42
PATRICK, WHICH IS TERRIFIC.
YOU HAVE ST. PATRICK, AS WELL AS
00:49:48.42\00:49:53.86
AIDEN, AS WELL AS ST. BRIDGET.
APPARENTLY BURIED IN THAT ONE
00:49:53.86\00:49:59.49
PLACE. IF YOU
WERE TO ASK ME IF I
00:49:59.49\00:50:02.00
BELIEVED THEY WERE ALL
BURIED THERE, I WOULD SAY NO.
00:50:02.00\00:50:05.73
I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED
EVEN IF THE BODY OF PATRICK WAS
00:50:05.73\00:50:12.11
THERE. AND IT LOOKS LIKE
00:50:12.11\00:50:14.04
IRELAND -- THIS IS EITHER
IRELAND OR THE COAST OF SPAIN.
00:50:14.04\00:50:17.98
SO WE SAW SOME PRETTY PLACES.
I WISH I COULD HAVE SHOWN YOU
00:50:17.98\00:50:22.98
THE WILLIAM TINDALE
MONUMENT. YOU KNOW WHAT IS
00:50:22.98\00:50:28.22
INTERESTING -- FIRST PROGRAM
AN OVERVIEW OF THE REFORMATION.
00:50:28.22\00:50:31.43
NOW THESE NINE PROGRAMS
WILL -- WILL ACT AS OUR WEEKLY
00:50:31.43\00:50:35.80
IT IS WRITTEN PROGRAM.
BUT ALSO THERE ARE GOING TO BE
00:50:35.80\00:50:40.40
NINE NIGHTS
STRAIGHT HERE ON 3ABN.
00:50:40.40\00:50:44.01
NINE, ONE-HOUR PROGRAMS. >>
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
00:50:44.01\00:50:47.08
>> THE BEGINNING WILL BE AN
OVERVIEW, THEN THE PROGRAM, THEN
00:50:47.08\00:50:52.45
WE SPEAK WITH AN EXPERT.
ON THE FIRST PROGRAM I SPEAK
00:50:52.45\00:50:58.92
WITH DR. GIRARD [ INAUDIBLE
] RECENTLY RETIRED FROM ANDREWS
00:50:58.92\00:51:02.82
UNIVERSITY. >> YES.
00:51:02.82\00:51:04.53
>> HE HAS LEAD SOMETHING LIKE
40 REFORMATION TOURS IN EUROPE.
00:51:04.53\00:51:11.30
HE KNOWS THESE PLACES
LIKE THE BACK OF HIS HAND.
00:51:11.30\00:51:14.87
AND HE IS A
PROTESTANT. HE IS A PROTESTANT.
00:51:14.87\00:51:20.21
A BIBLE BELIEVER WHO BELIEVES
THE GOSPEL, AND WOULD LOVE TO
00:51:20.21\00:51:23.45
SEE THE WORLD TURN TO THE WORD
OF GOD AND EMBRACE THE GOSPEL.
00:51:23.45\00:51:27.58
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
THIS SECOND PROGRAM IS CALLED
00:51:27.58\00:51:31.39
THE CELTIC CONNECTION.
AND SO WE GO TO IRELAND.
00:51:31.39\00:51:35.32
IRELAND IS A FASCINATING
PLACE. IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
00:51:35.32\00:51:38.73
INTERESTING HISTORY. WHEN
I WAS GROWING UP, I GREW UP
00:51:38.73\00:51:41.93
DURING THE TROUBLES. THIS
WAS THAT PERIOD DURING THE
00:51:41.93\00:51:47.67
1970S WHEN PROTESTANTS AND
CATHOLICS WERE REALLY WARRING IN
00:51:47.67\00:51:52.51
NORTHERN IRELAND. IT
WAS TIME WHEN A LOT OF
00:51:52.51\00:51:55.81
FIGURES LIKE BOBBY
SANDS CAME INTO PROMINENCE.
00:51:55.81\00:52:02.35
THE BRITISH WHO WERE OCCUPYING
NORTHERN IRELAND WOULD -- WOULD
00:52:02.35\00:52:07.49
ROUND UP TROUBLE MAKERS AND PUT
THEM IN THE PRISON, AND SOME OF
00:52:07.49\00:52:11.63
THESE
TROUBLEMAKERS MAE REAL TROUBLE.
00:52:11.63\00:52:14.46
THERE WERE BOMBINGS AND MURDERS,
AND SHOOTINGS, AND IT WAS
00:52:14.46\00:52:19.53
TERRIBLE. THE IRISH
REPUBLICAN ARMY WERE A
00:52:19.53\00:52:23.37
VERY FIERCE ORGANIZATION.
>> I REMEMBER THAT WELL.
00:52:23.37\00:52:25.84
>> BOBBY SANDS DIED
FROM A HUNGER STRIKE.
00:52:25.84\00:52:30.15
AND SO DID MANY OTHRS. GO
TO BELFAST TODAY -- BELFAST
00:52:30.15\00:52:36.82
INCIDENTALLY WAS WHERE THE
TITANIC WAS BUILT -- BUT GO TO
00:52:36.82\00:52:40.36
BELFAST SAID, AND YOU WILL
SEE A MURAL OF BOBBY SANDS.
00:52:40.36\00:52:44.99
WHILE WE WERE THERE, FOR
ABOUT 20 MINUTES, AT LEAST THREE
00:52:44.99\00:52:49.13
FAMILIES STOPPED IN FRONT
OF THAT MURAL AND HAD THEIR
00:52:49.13\00:52:54.84
PHOTOGRAPHS TAKEN.
PATRICK WAS AN INTERESTING
00:52:54.84\00:52:57.41
GUY -- >> PATRICK TO ME.
00:52:57.41\00:52:59.04
I LIKE THAT YOU ARE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT HIM.
00:52:59.04\00:53:03.55
GO AHEAD. >> OF
COURSE THE ROMAN CATHOLIC
00:53:03.55\00:53:06.31
CHURCH CLAIMS HIM. >>
AND THEY SAINTED HIM AFTER
00:53:06.31\00:53:11.15
THEY DIED. >> SURE THEY DID.
00:53:11.15\00:53:13.99
YOU COULD SAY THAT
PATRICK WAS A CATHOLIC.
00:53:13.99\00:53:16.99
BUT HE WASN'T A ROMAN CATHOLIC.
HE WAS A MISSIONARY TO IRELAND.
00:53:16.99\00:53:21.70
HE WASN'T THERE ON
ANY ERRAND OF THE CHURCH.
00:53:21.70\00:53:25.10
HE WASN'T ROMANIZING PEOPLE.
HIS MISSION -- AND WE HAVE -- I
00:53:25.10\00:53:30.87
SHOULDN'T SAY WE -- HIS WRITINGS
ARE STILL [ INAUDIBLE ] TODAY,
00:53:30.87\00:53:34.71
BUT HIS MISSION WAS TO
CHRISTIANIZE, AND HE CONVERTED A
00:53:34.71\00:53:38.21
LOT OF PAGANS.-A LOT OF WHAT IS
SAID ABOUT PATRICK IS JUST NOT
00:53:38.21\00:53:43.79
TRUE. HE DIDN'T DRIVE ALL OF THE
SNAKES OUT OF IRELAND AND SO ON.
00:53:43.79\00:53:47.72
>> FOLKLORE. >> YEAH.-BUT
PATRICK INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH
00:53:47.72\00:53:51.79
WAS AN ENGLISHMAN NOT AN
IRISHMAN, TAKEN TO IRELAND AS A
00:53:51.79\00:53:57.50
SLAVE -- CAPTURED
AND TAKEN TO IRELAND.
00:53:57.50\00:54:00.34
HE GETS FREE, GOES HOME
TO ENGLAND, AND THEN HE HAS A
00:54:00.34\00:54:05.34
DREAM, A LITTLE BIT LIKE PAUL'S
VISION OF THE MACEDONIAN CRY,
00:54:05.34\00:54:08.71
COME HELP US. SOMEONE
APPEARED TO PATRICK IN A
00:54:08.71\00:54:13.05
DREAM, AND SAID YOU MUST
COME TO IRELAND AND HELP US.
00:54:13.05\00:54:16.89
AND SO HE DID. HE WENT
BACK TO THE PLACE WHERE
00:54:16.89\00:54:20.29
HE WAS A SLAVE
AND CONVERTED MANY.
00:54:20.29\00:54:30.77
HE WASN'T IRISH, OR
ROMAN CATHOLIC, AND C, HE WAS A
00:54:30.77\00:54:37.11
SABBATH KEEPER. HE WAS
A KEEPER OF THE SEVENTH
00:54:37.11\00:54:41.11
DAY SABBATH. AND
PATRICK'S LIFE IS
00:54:41.11\00:54:44.05
DESTRUCTIVE FOR US.
IT'S EASY TO MAKE NOISE IN
00:54:44.05\00:54:47.98
CHURCH, AND MAKE NOISE
ABOUT WHAT YOU BELIEVE --
00:54:47.98\00:54:49.85
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
-- AND -- AND ONE OF THE
00:54:49.85\00:54:53.19
THINGS THAT I
-- I FEAR A LITTLE.
00:54:53.19\00:54:55.69
TALK ABOUT THE PROTESTANT
REFORMATION, IT MIGHT INSPIRE
00:54:55.69\00:54:59.49
PEOPLE TO BE A LITTLE BIT
HATEFUL AND START BEING CRITICAL
00:54:59.49\00:55:03.43
OF -- JUST UNKINDLY
CRITICAL OF CERTAIN CHURCHES.
00:55:03.43\00:55:06.50
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE
THAT. PATRICK WAS A MISSIONARY.
00:55:06.50\00:55:11.44
HE TRAINED PEOPLE, WHO TRAINED
OTHERS, AND HE STARTED SOME
00:55:11.44\00:55:22.18
SOMETHING -- AIDEN WAS
INFLUENCED BY PATRICK, AND THESE
00:55:22.18\00:55:26.39
MEN BROUGHT CHRISTIANITY TO THE
BRITISH ISLES, SO PATRICK WAS A
00:55:26.39\00:55:34.60
BRIGHT LIGHT. FOR
HIM IT WAS ABOUT THE
00:55:34.60\00:55:37.47
SCRIPTURE. FOR
PATRICK, IT WAS ABOUT -- IT
00:55:37.47\00:55:40.77
WAS ABOUT MISSIONARY ZEAL.
YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO
00:55:40.77\00:55:44.24
SEE? I WOULD
LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE WHO
00:55:44.24\00:55:47.14
CALL THEMSELVES PROTESTANT TODAY
FILLED WITH THE MISSIONARY ZEAL
00:55:47.14\00:55:50.68
THAT SAYS, I HAVE GOT TO SHOW
JESUS TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW
00:55:50.68\00:55:55.72
JESUS. I HAVE GOT
TO REACH PEOPLE WITH
00:55:55.72\00:55:58.62
THE TRUE GOSPEL. AND
YOU DON'T REACH THEM WITH
00:55:58.62\00:56:04.06
THE TRUE GOSPEL UNLESS YOU
ARE LIVING THE TRUE GOSPEL.
00:56:04.06\00:56:07.76
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> ONE
MORE THING I WANT TO SAY,
00:56:07.76\00:56:11.97
IN THE MOMENT, IF WHICH EAR
GOING TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT
00:56:11.97\00:56:16.17
PATRICK, WE'LL WALK
THROUGH THESE PROGRAMS.
00:56:16.17\00:56:18.81
THIS IS A BROADCASTING
EVENT NOBODY SHOULD MISS.
00:56:18.81\00:56:21.71
>> I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
IT. >> OH, YEAH, YOU WILL BE
00:56:21.71\00:56:25.65
BLESSED. BUT IN
A MOMENT, WITH YOUR
00:56:25.65\00:56:28.32
PERMISSION. WE'LL
ROLL A LITTLE VIDEO, NOT
00:56:28.32\00:56:30.62
RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN YOU CALL FOR
IT, AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH A
00:56:30.62\00:56:35.36
MIRACLE STORY THAT HAPPENED.
>> I'LL LEAVE THAT CLIFFHANGER
00:56:35.36\00:56:42.96
RIGHT THERE. I HOPE
YOU HAVE OPENED UP YOUR
00:56:42.96\00:56:45.47
MIND TO BEGIN TO ABSORB, BECAUSE
WE TALKED ABOUT HISTORY, WE
00:56:45.47\00:56:49.70
TALKED ABOUT THE PAST 500 YEARS,
AND EVEN FURTHER BACK TO THE
00:56:49.70\00:56:54.64
1300S, AND PEOPLE MIGHT SAY,
WELL, WHY ARE WE FOCUSING SO
00:56:54.64\00:56:58.31
MUCH ON THE PAST? YOU
HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND WHERE
00:56:58.31\00:57:01.82
YOU HAVE COME FROM TO
APPRECIATE WHERE YOU ARE TODAY.
00:57:01.82\00:57:07.49
TODAY THE VERY FOUNDATION OF
THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IS JESUS.
00:57:07.49\00:57:12.36
DON'T FORGET THAT NO
OTHER FOUNDATION CAN ANYONE LAY.
00:57:12.36\00:57:16.90
SO HOW DO WE GET A MONOLITHIC
SYSTEM THAT IS BASED ON THE
00:57:16.90\00:57:21.77
AUTHORITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL?
AND IT IS SO WELCOMED AROUND THE
00:57:21.77\00:57:25.27
WORLD, AND SO -- NOT ONLY
WELCOMED, BUT THE MOVEMENT
00:57:25.27\00:57:28.71
SEEKING TO BRING ABOUT A
COALITION OF ALL RELIGIOUS
00:57:28.71\00:57:33.01
DENOMINATIONS. SO
DON'T GO AWAY, THE BEST OF
00:57:33.01\00:57:34.88
THE PROGRAM IS YET TO COME, AND
PASTOR JOHN, I'M LOOKING FORWARD
00:57:34.88\00:57:39.79
TO WHAT YOU TALK ABOUT. SO
WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A FEW
00:57:39.79\00:57:43.26
MOMENTS.
00:57:43.26\00:57:45.16
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