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The Root of Unforgiveness

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Participants: Jill Morikone (Host), Mollie Steenson (Host), Shelley Quinn

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00:08 ♪ >> WELCOME BACK TO THE SECOND
00:15 HOUR OF OUR LIVE SITTING TOGETHER HERE.
00:17 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FREEDOM IN FORGIVENESS, AND HOW WE CAN
00:22 EXPERIENCE THAT, HOW WE CAN EXTEND GOD'S FORGIVENESS TO
00:27 OTHERS, HOW WE CAN BREAK FREE FROM THOSE HURTS AND PAINS AND
00:31 WOUNDS THAT MANY OF US HAVE CARRIED EVEN FROM CHILDHOOD.
00:35 MY HUSBAND GREG IS PRODUCING TONIGHT.
00:37 SO I JUST GOT TO SEE HIM. HE WALKED OUT ON SET.
00:42 AND WE HAVE SO FAR 12,500 OF THESE LITTLE BOOKLETS "AFTER THE
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00:50 THEY ARE COMING FROM THE STATES OF TEXAS AND FLORIDA, WHICH IS
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01:24 WE'RE ENCOURAGING CHURCHES TO -CONTACT US. GET 500, 1,000, 2,000, WHATEVER
01:33 YOU THINK YOU CAN GIVE OUT IN YOUR STORM-RAVAGED COMMUNITY.
01:38 LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE.
01:41 THIS IS FROM SHARON. AND SHE IS FROM THE UNITED
01:44 KINGDOM. MY HUSBAND CHEATED ON ME WITH
01:47 ANOTHER WOMAN. TAKING HER AWAY TO A HOTEL FOR A
01:50 FULL WEEKEND. HOW DO I FORGIVE HIM AND STILL
01:54 LOVE HIM AS A HUSBAND? HE ADMITTED WHAT HE DID.
01:57 AND ASKED ME TO FORGIVE HIM AFTER I SHOWED HIM PROOF OF THE
02:03 HOTEL BILL. >> BOY.
02:04 THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDEST, I THINK.
02:06 >> YEAH. >> BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A
02:10 BETRAYAL OF THE ONENESS THAT YOU SHARED WITH YOUR HUSBAND THAT
02:13 HAS BEEN -- HAS BEEN RIPPED APART.
02:20 FIRST OF ALL, HAVING PRAISE GOD NEVER EXPERIENCES THAT, THIS IS
02:25 AN ISSUE WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE TO SURRENDER THIS TO THE LORD,
02:30 AND ASK GOD TO HELP YOU IN THIS SITUATION.
02:34 BUT I THINK THAT YOUR HUSBAND NEEDS TO -- IF I WERE GOING
02:38 THROUGH THIS, I WOULD BE WANT TO BE GOING TO COUNSELING, I WOULD
02:43 WANT TO MAKE SURE HE IS REPENTANT AND HE IS NOT JUST
02:47 CONFESSING AND ASKING FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS BECAUSE HE GOT
02:51 CAUGHT. YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE -- WHAT
02:54 HAPPENED? WHY DID HE DO THIS?
02:56 BUT HE WOULD HAVE TO EARN MY TRUST AGAIN.
02:58 >> OKAY. GOOD.
03:01 >> I DON'T THINK -- YOU KNOW, AND DON'T YOU THINK THAT -- BOY.
03:07 HAVING FAITH IN SOMEBODY IS JUST -- EVEN HAVING FAITH IN GOD
03:10 IS -- TRUST IS THE FOUNDATION FOR FAITH.
03:12 >> IT IS. >> SO IT WOUL BE
03:15 VERY -- THAT'S -- THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GOD HAS TO DO,
03:18 AND IT HELPS WITH YOU BEGINNING TO PRAY.
03:20 AND I'M RAMBLING. GO MOLLIE.
03:27 [ LAUGHTER ] >> IT WAS HARD.
03:28 >> YEAH, IT WAS. IT SEEMS LIKE HER QUESTION WAS
03:32 DO I HAVE TO FORGIVE HIM? >> SHE SAID HOW DO I FORGIVE
03:37 HIM? AND STILL LOVE HIM AS A HUSBAND?
03:40 >> OKAY. SEE THOSE ARE DIFFICULT
03:43 QUESTIONS. HOW DO I FORGIVE HIM?
03:45 YOU FORGIVE HIM -- THE HOW IS WITH GOD'S FORGIVENESS?
03:50 DO YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE HIM? THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES, BECAUSE
03:54 IF YOU DON'T FORGIVE HIM, THEN THAT UNFORGIVENESS IN YOUR HEART
03:59 IS DOING MORE HARM THAN IT IS DOING HIM.
04:02 DO YOU HAVE TO TRUST HIM AND PUT YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION?
04:06 NOW THAT IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO WORK OUT.
04:09 YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE IN COUNSELING, OR WITH HIS BEHAVIOR
04:13 AND HOW HE PRESENTS HIMSELF IN HIS CONVINCING YOU THAT THIS WAS
04:21 MAYBE A ONETIME ACT OR WHATEVER,-BUT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU FORGIVE HIM, THEN YOU WALK OUT FROM
04:29 UNDER THAT BONDAGE OF THAT UNFORGIVENESS IN YOUR LIFE, BUT
04:32 THEN PUTTING -- PUTTING -- AS SHELLEY SAID THE TRUST BACK INTO
04:36 THE MARRIAGE, PUTTING THAT RELATIONSHIP BACK INTO WHAT
04:43 EVERY WOMAN WANTS IN A MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP, NOW THOSE ARE THE
04:48 DIFFICULT STEPS THAT YOU HAVE TO WALK THROUGH, AND YOU NEED HELP
04:52 TO WALK THROUGH THAT, COUNSELING IN YOUR LOCAL CHURCH OR
04:56 WHATEVER. BUT -- OH, HONEY, DO -- DON'T
04:59 LET THAT HEAVINESS OF UNFORGIVENESS WEIGH IN YOUR
05:04 HEART. >> AND I'M GOING TO ADD
05:06 SOMETHING. AND YOU MAY ALL WANT TO POP ME
05:09 AFTER I SAY THIS. YES, YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE HIM.
05:13 THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU'LL END UP MARRIED TO THIS MAN.
05:16 >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSO
05:20 ABSOLUTELY. >> IT DEPENDS ON IS THIS THE
05:22 FIRST TIME HE HAS DONE THIS? IT'S JUST LIKE I WANT TO TALK TO
05:26 SOMEBODY TONIGHT WHO MAY BE LIVING WITH AN ABUSIVE HUSBAND
05:30 WHO COMES AND REPENTS AND BEGS FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS, AND YOU
05:35 FORGIVE, BUT THEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN AND IT HAPPENS AGAIN.
05:39 THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE UNTIL THEY HAVE SERIOUS HELP
05:44 AND -- OR A TRUE CONVERSION FROM THE LORD.
05:47 SO FORGIVING SOMEONE DOESN'T MEAN -- I FORGIVE YOU.
05:52 DO IT TO ME AGAIN. >> ABSOLUTELY.
05:54 >> FORGIVING SOMEONE MEANS THAT YOU ARE RELEASING --
05:58 >> YES. >> AND -- AND YOU CAN
06:01 EVEN -- YOU KNOW, WHEN JESUS TALKED ABOUT HEAPING COALS UPON
06:05 THEIR HEAD. HOW DOES THAT SCRIPTURE GO IN I
06:08 CAN'T THINK OF IT RIGHT NOW. >> ROMANS 12 --
06:12 >> I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. >> OKAY.
06:15 >> BUT IT'S A WHEN YOU FORGIVE SOMEONE YOU ARE HEAPING BURNING
06:21 COALS UPON THEIR HEAD. DID YOU KNOW IN THAT DAY AND
06:24 AGE -- AND IT IS STILL IN CERTAIN CIRCLES IT IS
06:28 HAPPENING -- >> ROMANS 12:20 THEREFORE IF
06:31 YOUR ENEMY IS HUNGRY FEED HIM, IF HE IS THIRSTY GIVE HIM A
06:39 DRINK, FOR IN SO DOING YO WILL HEAP COALS OF FIRE UPON HIS
06:44 HEAD. >> WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN
06:46 SOMEBODY WAS IN REPENTANCE THEY WORE THAT HEAD DRESS THAT HAD
06:52 THIS PANEL, AND THEY WOULD PUT HOT COALS UPON THEIR HEAD, AND
06:59 THAT WAS TO SHOW THE REPENTANCE. >> DID THEY FEEL THE HOT COALS?
07:06 >> I WOULD GUESS THEY HAD SOME PROTECTION, BUT THEY ARE STILL
07:09 DOING THIS PRACTICE OF WEARING COALS UPON THEIR HEAD.
07:14 BUT IT SAYS WHEN YOU ARE BEING KIND TO YOUR ENEMY, YOU ARE MORE
07:19 LIKELY TO MAKE THEM REPENT. YOU THINK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO -- I
07:23 HEARD A STORY OF SOMEONE WHO WAS IN PRISON RECENTLY, AND HE MADE
07:27 FRIENDS -- HE HAD BEEN TORTURED AND -- AND ABUSED BY THIS GUARD,
07:35 AND HE MADE FRIENDS -- HE DECIDED HE WAS GOING TO MAKE
07:39 FRIENDS WITH THIS GUARD, AND THE GUARD SAID WHY DO YOU WANT TO BE
07:43 MY FRIEND? AND HE SAID, WELL, I'M GOING TO
07:46 BE WITH YOU SOMETIME. WELL, BECAUSE HE FORGAVE THE
07:49 GUARD AND WAS NICE TO HIM, THE GUARD REPENTED.
07:53 BUT ANYWAY HONEY WHAT YOU NEED IS A LOT OF PRAYER, AND YOU NEED
07:57 TO SEEK THE LORD AND FIND OUT, IS THIS A PATTERN OR IS THIS
08:02 SOMETHING THAT HE SNUCK AROUND AND DONE BEFORE?
08:05 AND PERSONALLY, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT HE IS TESTED FO HIV.
08:11 I WOULDN'T LET -- YOU KNOW, CA TELLS THE STORY OF -- OF A DEAR
08:19 WOMAN IN HIS CHURCH WHO'S HUSBAND WAS A PHILANDERER.
08:30 HE BROUGHT HOME AIDS. HE NEVER GOT IT, AND SHE DIED
08:36 FROM AIDS >> FORGIVENESS ISN'T GRANTED
08:38 BECAUSE A PERSON DESERVES TO BE FORGIVEN.
08:42 IT'S AN ACT OF LOVE. FORGIVENESS IS AN ACT OF GRACE.
08:46 SO IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOUR HUSBAND DESERVES TO BE FORGIVEN, OR THE
08:52 PERSON THAT SINNED AGAINST YOU, IT'S AN ACT OF -- FROM YOUR
08:58 HEART. AND ALSO WHEN WE HAVE FORGIVEN
09:01 OFFENSE, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE CONDONING THE OFFENSE, THAT
09:07 WE'RE PRETENDING THE OFFENSE DIDN'T HAPPEN, THAT WE'RE GOING
09:11 TO FORGIVE THE OFFENSE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FORGIVE THE
09:20 OFFENSE. THAT WOULD MEAN THERE IS
09:23 SOMETHING WRONG WITH OUR REBERER.
09:27 [ LAUGHTER ] >> THIS PERSON PUTS THEMSELVES
09:28 IN A PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY ARE NOT
09:32 GOING TO DO IT TO YOU AGAIN. AND IT IS NEVER ALLOWING ANOTHER
09:36 PERSON TO CONTINUE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU.
09:39 THAT'S NOT PART OF FORGIVENESS. FORGIVENESS IS GETTING OUR
09:43 HEARTS CLEANSED, OUR HEARTS CLEAN AND PURE BEFORE THE LORD,
09:46 AND US STANDING IN RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.
09:49 >> AMEN. >> YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED ONE
09:51 OF THE WORDS -- THERE'S DIFFERENT WORDS IN THE NEW TEST
09:55 FOR FORGIVENESS, AND ONE YOU MENTIONED MEANS TO RELEASE OR
09:59 LET GO. THERE IS ANOTHER WORD, WHICH IS
10:03 FROM THE SAME ROOT AS GRACE. AND IT MEANS TO GRANT AS A FAVOR
10:09 IN KINDNESS, PARDON OR RESCUE, TO DELIVER, TO FRANKLY FORGIVE
10:16 AND FREELY GIVE OR GRANT THERE SO THIS IS HOW GOD FORGIVES US.
10:21 IT'S -- IT'S SOMETHING THAT HIS PARDON TO US.
10:24 WE DON'T SDEFSH TO BE FORGIVEN. WHEN HE SAYS WHEN WE CONFESS OUR
10:29 SINS HE IS FAITHFUL AND JUST TO FORGIVE US OF OUR SINS, AND TO
10:35 CLEANSE US OF ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
10:38 >> AMEN. >> SO IT -- IT IS SOMETHING THAT
10:41 NO MATTER WHAT GOES ON IN OUR LIFE, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
10:47 FORGIVE, SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT WIRE OF BITTERNESS.
10:52 SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE SOMEBODY AND THEN LOVE THEM FROM
10:55 A DISTANCE. AND BY THE WAY, ASK GOD TO PUT
10:59 HIS LOVE INTO YOUR HEART FOR THIS MAN.
11:01 >> LET'S HAVE A PRAYER FOR SHARON.
11:04 >> AMEN. >> CAN WE DO THAT?
11:06 AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
11:11 SHARON KNOW THAT WE LOVE YOU HERE AT 3ABN.
11:13 THAT OUR HEARTS HURT FOR WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH.
11:16 BUT I KNOW THAT GOD IS GOING TO BRING YOU DELIVERANCE.
11:21 FATHER WE LIFT UP OUR SISTER SHARON, AND AS I MENTION HER
11:27 NAME, LORD, I KNOW THERE ARE MANY OTHER WOMEN AND MEN IN THIS
11:32 SAME SITUATION. YOU HAVE THEIR NAMES ENGRAZENED
11:37 ON THE PALM OF YOUR HAND, YOU LOVE THEM WITH AN EVER LASTING
11:41 LAND. AND WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU WOULD
11:44 POUR IN YOUR FORGIVENESS. THAT YOU WOULD POUR IN YOUR
11:48 LOVE, SO THAT THAT COULD BE IN TURN EXTENDED TO THOSE PEOPLE,
11:52 THEIR SPOUSES THAT HAVE HURT THEM SO DEEPLY.
11:56 FATHER I ASK FOR GREAT WISDOM FOR SHARON.
11:59 I ASK THAT YOU GIVE HER DISCERNMENT TO KNOW WHAT SHE
12:05 SHOULD DO, BUT RIGHT NOW WE JUST ASK THAT YOU RELEASE HER FROM
12:10 THIS BURDEN OF THE ROOT OF UNFORGIVENESS.
12:14 GIVE HER FREEDOM. THANK YOU THAT YOU SAID, WHOEVER
12:19 THE SON SETS FREE IS FREE INDEED.
12:23 AND WE PRAY FOR SHARON AND HER HUSBAND.
12:26 WE ASK LORD JESUS FOR A SPIRIT OF REPENTANCE.
12:30 WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD CONVICT HIS HEART, AND DRAW HIM WITH
12:33 YOUR LOVING KINDNESS, AND THAT HE WOLD MAKE A CHOICE FOR YOU.
12:37 HE WOULD CHOOSE YOU, AND YOU WOULD CHAGE HIM AND TRANSFORM
12:41 HIM. AND GOD THAT YOU COULD DO A NEW
12:43 THING IN HIS LIFE AND HEART, AND THAT IT WOULD BE A TESTIMONY TO
12:47 YOUR GOODNESS AND GRACE. AND WE THANK YOU, IN THE
12:50 PRECIOUS AND HOLY NAME OF JESUS, AMEN.
12:54 >> AMEN. LET'S DO ANOTHER QUESTION BEFORE
12:56 WE GO ON. THIS IS FROM LENNET.
13:01 HOW DO YOU WORK WITH SOMEONE WHO REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY TIMES YOU
13:05 FORGIVE, CONTINUES TO DO THE SAME MEAN-SPIRITED THINGS TO
13:09 YOU. SO SHE HAS FORGIVEN, BUT YET THE
13:12 PERSON IS STILL ACTING UP AGAIN, AND HURTING HER AGAIN.
13:17 >> I HAVE HAD A REAL STRONG PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH SOMEONE
13:22 THAT I ALSO HAD WORKED WITH, AND A PERSON WHO WAS MANIPULATIVE
13:27 AND CONTROLLING AND BACK BITING AND TOLD LIES AND -- AND I
13:32 WOULD -- OH, I WOULD ASK GOD, HELP ME FORGIVE THIS PERSON, AND
13:39 I JUST KEPT IT UP AND UP, AND I WOULD FEEL LIKE I HAVE FORGIVEN,
13:45 AND IT WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN. THIS WAS A DAILY PRAYER.
13:48 IT HELPED THAT I STARTED PRAYING FOR HER BLESSINGS, AS YOU DID.
13:53 SOMETHING ELSE THAT HELPED WAS I PUT A LITTLE DISTANCE BETWEEN
13:57 US, BUT I THINK THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WAS THAT I
14:01 PRAYED AND ASKED GOD HELP ME TO SEE HER AS YOU SEE HER.
14:09 AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PAUL SAYS IN -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN
14:13 FINE THOUGH SCRIPTURE. 2 CORINTHIANS 5:16.
14:19 HE WAS TALKING ABOUT JESUS, BUT HE SAYS, SO FRO NOW ON WE
14:24 REGARD NO ONE FROM THE WORLDLY POINT OF VIEW.
14:27 BECAUSE THEY MISSED -- THEY MISSED JESUS, AND THE PEOPLE
14:30 DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHO HE WAS. AND PALL -- PAUL WAS SAYING WE
14:38 SHOULDN'T BE REGARDING ANYONE FROM A WORLDLY POINT OF VIEW.
14:42 BUT THEN IF YOU ASK GOD HELP ME TO SEE THIS PERSON AS YOU SEE,
14:48 LET ME UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THAT -- THAT SHE'S WORTH NOTHING
14:52 LESS THAN THE PRICE THAT YOU PAID WITH YOUR PRECIOUS LIFE
14:57 BLOOD, AND -- AND THEN PRAY FOR HER BLESSINGS, AND ALSO, I WOULD
15:02 PRAY -- AS -- AS I HAVE, THAT GOD WOULD HELP OPEN DOORS TO
15:09 IMPROVE THIS RELATIONSHIP. >> YES.
15:12 ABSOLUTELY. MISS MOLLIE?
15:14 >> WELL, I -- I UNDERSTAND HOW SHE FEELS.
15:19 BUT MINE WAS A -- SITUATION THAT I HAD WAS A FATHER THAT WAS
15:24 REALLY ROUGH AND COULD BE -- HE -- ABUSIVE IN THAT HE
15:29 WAS -- WELL, HE WAS AN ALCOHOLIC, AND WAS JUST ROUGH.
15:34 AND I CAN REMEMBER MUCH OF MY LIFE WHERE I WOULD HAVE SUCH
15:39 ANGER AND RESENTMENT AND BITTERNESS TOWARD HIM,
15:45 AND -- AND IN MY LATER YEARS AFTER I BECAME A CHRISTIAN, OF
15:49 PRAYING AND ASKING, YOU KNOW, GOD TO HELP ME FORGIVE HIM, AND
15:53 I WOULD FORGIVE HIM, AND I WOULD STAND BEFORE HIM, PARTICULARLY
15:57 AFTER I LEFT HOME, YOU KNOW, IT -- I WOULD GET CONFESSED UP,
16:02 AND REPENTHED UP, AND I WOULD HAVE THE UNFORGIVENESS OUT OF MY
16:07 HEART, AND I -- I CAN REMEMBER CALLING HIM AND TELLING HIM I
16:12 LOVE HIM. WHICH WE WEREN'T A HOME THAT
16:15 WOULD BE EXPRESSED -- I KNOW WE CHILDREN HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT WE
16:21 WERE THE FIRST ONES TO INITIATE THE WORDS I LOVE NOW.
16:27 NOT FROM OUR FATHER. SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE FORGIVEN,
16:32 AND THEN HE WOULD DO SOMETHING ELSE.
16:34 HE WOULD BE ABUSIVE PERHAPS TO MY MOTHER OR WHATEVER.
16:37 AND THIS IS WHAT I FOUND I HAD TO CONTEND WITH.
16:45 IT WASN'T JUST HIS LATEST INDISCRETION THAT I HAD TO DEAL
16:50 WITH, IT FELT LIKE EVERYTHING WOULD COME BACK FROM DAY ONE.
16:53 AND THEN I DIDN'T JUST HAVE TO FORGIVE HIM FOR -- FOR HIS
16:58 LATEST THING THAT HE DID. I WOULD HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY
17:02 BACK TO SQUARE 1, BUT IT WAS ONLY THROUGH THE POWER OF GOD,
17:06 AND -- AND I'LL SAY THIS. AT -- AT HIS PASSING, HE
17:12 HAD -- HE HAD -- AND I THINK IT WAS THROUGH THE LOVE AND GRACE
17:17 AND MERCY OF A GODLY WIFE THAT -- THAT HE HAD COME TO
17:21 BRING HIMELF -- THROUGH THE POWER OF GOD INTO A RELATIONSHIP
17:25 WITH GOD, AND AS HE -- AS WE WALKED IN THE LIGHT OF THE WORD
17:32 OF GOD, THEN IT WAS -- AND THESE INDISCRETIONS WOULD FALL AWAY,
17:38 IT WAS SO MUCH EASIER FOR MY HEART TO BE SOFT AND TENDER
17:42 TOWARD HIM, AND TO HAVE THE REPENTING AND TO CONTINUE TO
17:45 WALK IN -- IN THAT RELATIONSHIP, AND SO I'M THINKING OF AS YOU
17:51 ARE WALKING -- AND -- A DAILY RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE
17:56 THAT -- AT WORK THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO CAUSE YOU HARDSHIP
18:01 AND PAIN, THAT IS A DIFFICULT PLACE TO BE, BUT I THINK SHELLEY
18:05 REALLY HIT ON THIS, THAT IF YOU ASK GOD TO PUT -- TO JUST GIVE
18:09 YOU A GLIMPSE OF HOW HE VIEWS HER, THAT IT WILL CHANGE YOUR
18:13 PERSPECTIVE OF HER, AND HOPEFULLY, THEN AS SHE IS DOING
18:17 THE THINGS THAT SHE IS TO YOU, IT WON'T HURT YOU AS BADLY.
18:21 >> AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN YOU CAN -- THROUGH
18:24 YOUR OWN -- THROUGH YOUR WITNESS AS GOD IS WITNESSING THROUGH
18:28 YOU, THAT YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS WOMAN'S LIFE.
18:30 >> AMEN. >> I MEAN, THIS IS SOMEBODY YOU
18:33 NEED TO PRAY FOR HER SALVATION. I WANTED TO READ YOU A
18:37 SCRIPTURE, BUT THE THOUGHT THAT I HAD WENT IN AND OUT OF MY
18:40 HEAD, AND IT WAS A GOOD ONE, I HOPE IT COME BACK.
18:46 LUKE 17:3-4. OH, I KNOW.
18:50 DID YOUR FATHER EVER ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS.
18:54 >> NEVER. >> TO ME THIS IS
18:56 WHERE -- BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY -- WHERE IF YOU HAVE
19:02 FORGIVEN SOMEBODY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND THEN THEY DO
19:06 SOMETHING, AND ALL OF THOSE SKELETONS RISE UP, AND YOU ARE
19:11 THINKING IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE TO START BACK AT SQUARE 1.
19:15 BUT ONCE SOMEBODY ASKS FOR FORGIVENESS, IT'S LIKE YOU CAN
19:19 PUT THOSE SKELETONS AWAY, AND THOSE DON'T POP UP.
19:24 SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT WHE HE SAYS FORGIVE AS YOU ARE
19:28 FORGIVEN, THAT THAT MEANS WE HAVE -- THAT THE PERSON HAS TO
19:35 REPENTH, CONFESS THEIR SIN TO US AND REPENT BEFORE WE FORGIVE
19:40 THEM. AND THERE ARE A FEW SCRIPTURES
19:42 THAT MAKE IT SOUND THAT WAY, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, IF
19:46 WE'RE GOING TO FORGIVE AS CHRIST FORGAVE US, WHEN HE WAS HANGING
19:50 ON THE CROSS, HE SAID FATHER FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT
19:55 WHAT THEY ARE DOING. SO THOSE PEOPLE CERTAINLY DIDN'T
20:01 REPENT. LET'S LOOK AT LUKE 17, BECAUSE I
20:05 THINK MAYBE FOR LYNETTE THIS MIGHT HAVE A GOOD MESSAGE IN IT.
20:11 JILL YOU WANT TO READ THAT. >> LUKE 17:3-4.
20:16 IF YOUR BOTHER SINS AGAINST HIM, REBUKE HIM, AND IF HE REPENTS
20:22 FORGIVE HIM, AND IF HE SINS AGAINST YOU SEVEN TIMES IN A
20:26 DAY, AND SEVEN TIMES IN A DAY RETURNS TO YOU SAYING I REPENT,
20:30 YOU SHALL FORGIVE HIM. >> WELL, THE -- THE FIRST THING
20:34 THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE
20:41 REBUKE? THE PURPOSE OF THE REBUKE IS TO
20:43 GET THEM TO REPENT. >> UH-HUH.
20:47 >> SO FOR LYNETTE MAYBE IF YOU CAN GET ON NEUTRAL GROUND WITH
20:57 THIS PERSON, AND TO RE BUK DOESN'T MEAN DO YOU KNOW WHAT
21:02 YOU HAVE DONE TO ME? >> IT'S NOT HARSHNESS.
21:07 >> IT'S NOT HARSHNESS. BUT IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH HER
21:14 THE OFFENSE, WHEN JESUS SAID SEVEN TIMES A DAY YOU FORGIVE
21:24 OVER AND OVER. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE SAME
21:29 OFFENSE. IT'S NOT A REPEAT SIN.
21:31 I THINK IT'S -- IF THEY ARE SINNING AGAINST YOU IN VARIOUS
21:35 WAYS. >> CAN I JUMP IN A SECOND.
21:37 >> SURE. >> IF SOMEONE DOES A REPEAT
21:43 OFFENSE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. IF YOU ARE BEING ABUSED, YOU
21:46 NEED TO PROTECT YOURSELF. BUT IF SOMEONE DOES A REPEAT
21:50 THING, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. ARE WE NOT SUPPOSED TO FORGIVE
21:53 THEM OVER AND OVER AGAIN? >> WELL, THE INTERESTING THING
21:58 IS, ARE THEY REALLY REPENTING? >> PROBABLY NOT.
22:03 >> WE FORGIVE FOUR OUR SAKES, BUT THAT'S WHEN YOU START
22:07 ESTABLISHING THE BOUNDARIES AND LOVING THEM FROM A DISTANCE.
22:11 YOU TAUGHT ME THAT TERM. SOMETIMES YOU JUST GOT TO LOVE
22:14 PEOPLE FROM A DISTANCE. BUT THE IDEA OF SEVEN
22:18 TIMES -- SEVEN IN THE BIBLE IS THE NUMBER OF PERFECTION.
22:21 SO BASICALLY WHAT JESUS WAS SAYING IS THERE NO END TO OUR
22:25 FORGIVENESS, WE CONTINUALLY ARE FORGIVING, BUT ONCE AGAIN,
22:30 YOU -- YOU KNOW, HE SAYS HERE IF WE REPENTS, FORGIVE HIM.
22:36 >> UH-HUH. >> SO ANYWAY.
22:38 THAT'S THE THOUGHT. >> ALSO --
22:41 >> GREAT THOUGHT. >> -- TO AD TO THAT, IF WE KNOW
22:47 EVERY TIME WE GET AROUND A PERSON, THEY ARE GOING TO OFFEND
22:51 US IN SOME WAY, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE SCRIPTURE THAT TELLS US
22:55 WE CAN MARK THEM AND AVOID THEM. SO IF SOME -- IF I KNOW EVERY
23:00 TIME I GO OVER TO YOUR HOUSE, YOUR DOG IS GOING TO BITE ME.
23:03 [ LAUGHTER ] >> THEN AT SOME POINT, I'M GOING
23:06 TO QUIT GOING OVER TO YOUR HOUSE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET HURT
23:11 ANYMORE. [ LAUGHTER ]
23:12 >> SO IT'S NOT THAT I MAY NOT LOVE YOU, AND PRAY FOR YOU, WISH
23:16 THE BEST FOR YOU, BUT IF SOMEBODY CONTINUES TO HURT YOU,
23:21 THEN YOU NEED NOT PUT YOURSELF IN A POSITION TO CONTINUE TO BE
23:25 HURT. >> YES.
23:26 >> NOW WHAT ABOUT WHEN THAT OFFENDER IS A CHURCH MEMBER?
23:32 WHEN SOMEONE IS SINNING AGAINST YOU -- LET'S LOOK AT MATTHEW 18.
23:37 BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH WONDERFUL COUNSELING.
23:40 >> GOOD COUNSELING. >> MATTHEW 18:15-17.
23:49 MOLLIE YOU WANT TO READ THAT ONE.
23:52 >> I HAVE MINE IN ANY KIG JAMES.
23:55 MORE OVER IF A BROTHER SHOULD TRESPASS AGAINST YOU, GO AND
24:01 TELL HIM HIS FAULT. IF HE SHALL HEAR, THOU HAS
24:06 GAINED A BROTHER. BUT IF HE WILL NOT HEAR, TAKE
24:11 ONE OR TWO MORE, THAT IN THE MOUTH OF ONE OR TWO WITNESSES,
24:17 EVERY WORD SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED.
24:19 BUT IF HEEL NEXTS TO HEAR THE CHURCH, LET HIM BE UNTO THEE AS
24:31 A HEATHAN. >> SO WHAT IS THAT SAYING HERE?->> IT SAYS TO ME, THAT WE HAVE
24:39 TO HAVE COURAGE. BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN SOMEBODY
24:43 SAYS SOMETHING AGAINST YOU, MY RESPONSE IS, OKAY, I WON'T SAY
24:47 ANYTHING. BUT IT TAKES COURAGE TO GO TO
24:50 YOUR BROTHER OR SISTER AND ACTUALLY SAY SOMETHING.
24:58 >> I AGREE. I THINK MOST OF US DON'T LIKE
25:02 CONFRONTATION. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO THRIVE
25:07 ON CONFRONTATION. BUT IT IS ALSO WHEN SOMEBODY HAS
25:12 SINNED AGAINST YOU, ONE OF THE STEPS THAT I HAVE LEARNED
25:17 IN -- NOT ONLY, AS I GO BEFORE THE LORD TO PRAY, IS I ASK GOD
25:21 SHOW ME WHAT IS GOING ON IN MY OWN HEART.
25:25 >> GOOD.->> BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE OFFENSE IS -- YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT
25:30 I MAY BE ANGRY WITH, AND FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO FORGIVE, THEY
25:33 DIDN'T INTEND IT AT ALL THAT WAY.
25:37 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT
25:39 IS GOING ON IN MY HEART. BUT WHAT IT IS, IS, WE GET SOME
25:45 KIND OF A -- WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?
25:49 WHEN SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING AGAINST US TO HARM US, WE DON'T
25:52 GO TALKING TO EVERYBODY ELSE. YOU KNOW WHAT SHE DID?
25:55 BLAH BLAH BLAH. >> RIGHT.
25:58 >> SEE THAT IS THE REACTION OF MOST PEOPLE.
26:01 >> UH-HUH. >> YOU GET SINNED AGAINST --
26:03 >> AND YOU GO OUT AND SIN. REALLY, IT'S GOING OUT AND SIN
26:07 IF YOU GOSSIP. >> YOU CANNOT BELIEVE SHE DID IT
26:11 AGAIN. WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT?
26:15 SO WHAT JESUS IS SAYING HERE IS WE ARE TO, I BELIEVE, TAKE IT TO
26:22 THE LORD IN PRAYER, AND THEN GO TO THAT PERSON, AND SAY, YOU
26:26 KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT MADE ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, AND
26:31 REALLY UPSET ME. I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS
26:34 WITH YOU. AND IF THEY DON'T HEAR YOU, AND
26:37 THEY BLOW YOU OFF, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS SERIOUSLY BAD,
26:40 THEN HE SAYS, ALL RIGHT. GO GET SOMEONE ELSE FROM THE
26:44 CHURCH TO GO. BECAUSE -- NOW THIS IS SOMEBODY
26:47 REALLY SINNING AGAINST YOU. >> ABSOLUTELY.
26:49 >> SO THAT'S THE NEXT STEP, BUT HOW INTERESTING.
26:53 HOW DID THAT END? JILL?
26:57 >> TIEKT THE CHURCH AND IF YOU REFUSE TO HEAR THE CHURCH LET
27:03 HIM BE LIKE A HETHAN AND A TAX COLLECTOR.
27:10 YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO TO THE HETHAN, WE ARE
27:16 SUPPOSED TO WITNESS TO THEM. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO REACH OUT WITH
27:20 THE LOVE OF CHRIST. SO JESUS IS NOT SAYING IF YOU
27:24 DON'T HEAR THEM, YOU JUST CAST THEM ASIDE.
27:27 WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STILL REACH OUT TO WIN THEM BACK TO JESUS.
27:31 >> BUT IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT I THINK THERE IS -- THIS IS
27:39 WHERE THE LEVEL OF TRUST -- >> YES.
27:43 >> -- THEY DIDN'T TRUST THE HETHAN OR THE TAX COLLECTOR.
27:47 SO IT'S LIKE, ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO WITNESS TO YOU
27:52 NOW. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE YOU A
27:55 PROJECT, BUT DON'T PUT THAT PERSON IN A POSITION OF
27:59 RESPONSIBILITY OR -- WHERE THEY CAN HURT YOU AGAIN.
28:02 >> UH-HUH. >> AND I KEEP WANTING TO SAY
28:05 THAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY -- I KNOW AS I GO OUT
28:08 SPEAKING SO OFTEN, I'LL HAVE SOMEBODY COME UP TO ME WHO
28:13 IS -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE EXPERIENCING ABUSE IN THEIR
28:16 HOME. AND WE THINK IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
28:18 IN THE CHURCH. IT HAPPENS IN THE CHURCH.
28:20 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING
28:23 THAT -- ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN.
28:26 YES, WE'RE TO BE FORGIVING, AND YES, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T EVEN
28:31 KNOW HOW YOU WILL SUPPORT YOUR CHILDREN, BUT I WANT TO SAY, IF
28:34 YOUR SPOUSE IS BEING ABUSIVE, YOUR CHILDREN ARE BEING ABUSED,
28:38 OR YOU ARE BEING ABUSED, YOU NEED TO SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP.
28:44 YOU NEED TO HAVE AN ESCAPE PLAN. YOU NEED TO GET OUT OF THERE,
28:49 BECAUSE CHILDREN ARE SO DAMAGED --
28:52 >> UH-HUH. >> -- WHEN THEY GROW UP IN AN
28:56 ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP, WITNESSING AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.
29:00 IT IS LIKE YOU ARE PACKING THEIR BAGS DOWN WITH ROCKS, AND THEY
29:04 ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CARRY THAT AROUND A WHILE.
29:07 YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE -- ARE -- YOU
29:10 TALK TO A LOT OF DRUG ADDICTS OR A LOT OF ALCOHOLICS.
29:15 YOU TALK WITH PEOPLE, IF THEY CAME FROM AN ABUSIVE
29:20 RELATIONSHIP, OFTEN THEY WILL WALK RIGHT INTO THE SAME PAT --
29:22 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LOT OF
29:25 DAMAGE. >> I WAS JUST READING SOMETHING
29:27 ABOUT THE CYCLE OF UNFORGIVENESS, AND THIS WOMAN
29:30 WHO WROTE THIS BOOK, SHE IS CHRISTIAN, AND SHE SAID THAT IN
29:33 HER HOME, SHE WAS -- SHE WENT TO PROFESSIONAL COUNSELING.
29:37 THERE WAS A LOT OF ABUSE IN HER HOME.
29:40 IN FACT, THE COUNSELOR WHO HELPED HER, SAID THAT HER
29:45 UPBRINGING WAS ONE OF THE TOP TEN WORST CASES THEY HAD HEARD
29:50 OF. AND SHE SAID I MADE A DECISION
29:53 THAT THE CYCLE OF UNFORGIVENESS WOULD STOP WITH ME.
29:56 >> PRAISE GOD. >> I WOULD NOT CARRY ON THAT
29:59 CYCLE OF UNFORGIVENESS INTO MY HOME INTO MY MARRIAGE WITH MY
30:04 HUSBAND. SHE IS MARRIED OVER 36 YEARS.
30:07 HER KIDS ARE NOW GROWN, AND THEY HAVE -- SHE SAID INSTEAD OF
30:12 BEING IDENTIFIED AS SOMEONE WHO IS BITTER AND RESENTFUL AND A
30:16 VICTIM, GOD HAS RELEASED ME AND GOD HAS FREED ME.
30:20 IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE TESTIMONY, AND SHE IS NOT -- NO LONGER IN
30:25 THAT CYCLE. GOD HAS GIVEN HER DELIVERANCE
30:28 AND FREEDOM. >> YOU KNOW, IT'S SO INTERESTING
30:32 HOW PEOPLE CAN GROW UP IN THE EXACT SAME ENVIRONMENT.
30:36 YOU TAKE TWO SIBLINGS GROWING UP IN THE SAME ENVIRONMENT, AND
30:41 I'LL USE MY SISTER AND MYSELF. AND I LOOKED AROUND, AND
30:44 EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED, I'M SAYING, I'M NOT EVER GOING TO DO
30:48 THIS OR THAT. I MEAN IT WAS LIKE I HAD THIS
30:51 CHECKLIST OF WHAT I KNEW I WASN'T GOING TO DO WHEN I LEFT
30:55 HOME. NOW MY SISTER ON THE OTHER HAND,
30:59 AND SHE WAS QUITE SPOILED AND FAVORED, WHICH IS INTERESTING,
31:05 BUT SHE REPEATED ALMOST EVERY MISTAKE, AND SHE SELF MEDICATED,
31:14 I WOULD SAY IN MANY WAYS, BUT ONE THING THAT SHE NEVER
31:18 DID -- SHE DID BECOME A DRUG ADDICT FOR A GOOD 15 YEARS SHE
31:23 WAS REALLY INTO THE HARD STUFF. ONE THING SHE NEVER DID -- MY
31:28 AUNT ONCE SAID TO ME, THAT SHE -- MY SISTER COULDN'T HELP
31:33 HERSELF. IT'S NOT HER FAULT BECAUSE SHE
31:35 WAS SO SPOILED ROTTEN AND NEVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
31:39 AND MY SISTER ALWAYS SAID I ALWAYS KNEW THERE WAS GREAT
31:47 DISPARITY. BUT YOU HAD THE GOOD PART OF IT,
31:49 SHELLEY. BECAUSE WHEN YOU WENT OUT, YOU
31:52 KNEW HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.
31:55 AND SHE SAID I DIDN'T. SO I TOOK THE EASY WAY OUT.
31:59 BUT SHE NEVER BLAMED -- SHE SAID I DON'T BLAME MOMMA, I DON'T
32:06 BLAME MINI AND PAPI. IT WAS MY CHOICE.
32:10 AND THIS IS WHERE WE ALL HAVE TO GET.
32:13 WHEN WE HAVE GOT UNFORGIVENESS IN OUR LIFE, IT CAN MAKE US DO
32:17 SOME PRETTY CRAZY THINGS. >> UH-HUH.
32:21 >> BUT IT IS A CHOICE TO FORGIVE.
32:24 EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN OUR LIFE -- I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU
32:28 COME FROM. I MEAN THERE'S THINGS THAT
32:30 HAPPENED TO ME WHEN I WAS A KID THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ANY
32:34 KID, BUT NO MATTER WHAT YOU COME FROM, IT IS A CHOICE.
32:38 EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. IT'S YOUR CHOICE.
32:40 JUST LIKE THIS WOMAN. SHE CHOSE --
32:42 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> -- TO STOP THE CYCLE OF ABUSE
32:48 AND UNFORGIVENESS. AND THIS IS WHY IT'S SO
32:51 IMPORTANT TO CHOOSE THE LORD -- >> AMEN.
32:54 >> -- BECAUSE WHO CAN DO THAT IN YOUR OWN STRENGTH.
32:57 >> AMEN. I JUST WANT TO TAKE A SHORT
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34:37 WE'RE COMING DOWN -- I CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT TOWARD THE END
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34:42 OF THESE QUESTIONS. THIS IS FROM BILLY, I'M NOT SURE
34:46 IF THAT IS HER NAME OR NOT. HI, MY SISTERS.
34:49 I WANT THE LADIES THAT ARE LISTENING TO KNOW IF THEY HAVE
34:52 HAD AN ABORTION, AND ARE STRUGGLING, AND HAVE ASKED GOD
34:56 FOR FORGIVENESS, THEN YOU HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN.
35:01 SATAN IS GOING TO TRY TO SHOVE IT IN YOUR FACE TO SHAME YOU.
35:05 YOU HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN. NOW FORGIVE YOURSELF.
35:09 IT WAS HARD FOR ME, BECAUSE I DID NOT FEEL IT.
35:12 BUT NOW I KNOW IN MY MIND I HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN.
35:17 SATAN IS A LIAR. THANK YOU, LORD.
35:20 SO BILLY OBVIOUSLY HAD AN ABORTION.
35:24 FELT SHAME FOR YEARS. FELT LIKE SHE COULD NOT BE
35:27 FORGIVEN, AND NOW SHE HAS EXPERIENCED FORGIVENESS.
35:30 LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A MOMENT.
35:32 WHAT IF YOU FEEL LIKE, I CAN'T BE FORGIVEN?
35:35 HOW CAN YOU EXPERIENCE GOD'S FORGIVENESS?
35:38 >> YOU MEAN AS IN FORGIVING YOURSELF?
35:41 >> YEAH. >> I THINK -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE
35:43 THOUGHT ABOUT THIS -- I THINK IT'S THE SAME THING.
35:46 IF -- IF YOU DON'T FEEL YOU CAN FORGIVE YOURSELF, IT IS JUST THE
35:51 SAME PRINCIPLE IS INVOLVED. IF I NEED TO -- TO FORGIVE
35:56 SOMEONE ELSE, TO ASK GOD TO PUT HIS FORGIVENESS IN MY HEART, GOD
36:05 WILL DO IT. WE ARE SO BURDENED DOWN, WHEN WE
36:09 ARE FEELING SO CONDEMNED, BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T FORGIVE
36:14 OURSELVES THAT IS SUC A FEELING OF CONDEMNATION.
36:17 AND WE CAN'T BE A HEALTHY, PRODUCTIVE CHRISTIAN WHEN WE'RE
36:23 WALKING UNDER SO MUCH CONDEMNATION.
36:25 GOD WANTS TO FORGIVE YOU AND CLEANSE YOU.
36:28 I'LL GO BACK TO 1 JOHN 1:9. I HAVEN'T QUOTED THAT YET.
36:34 >> YOU HAVEN'T. >> CONFESS OUR SINS.
36:37 AND YES, HAVING AN ABORTION, THAT'S A SIN.
36:44 FATHER I HAVE DONE A HORRIBLE THING, PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
36:48 THE SCRIPTURES SAY IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS, HE IS FAITHFUL AND
36:54 JUST IN FORGIVE YOU. AND THEN WHAT DOES HE DO IN
36:58 CLEANSES YOU FROM THAT THING? CLEANSES YOU FROM ALL
37:04 UNRIGHTEOUSNESS. SO HERE WE STAND FORGIVEN AND
37:08 CLEANSED. I THINK I MENTIONED IT EARLIER,
37:10 WHEN GOD LOOKS AT US, HE LOOKS AT US THROUGH THE BLOOD OF THE
37:15 LORD JESUS CHRIST. >> AMEN.
37:17 >> THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE BLOOD OF JESUS SPEAKS BETTER THINGS
37:22 THAN THE BLOOD OF ABLE. ABLE'S BLOOD CRIED OUT FROM THE
37:27 GROUND FOR JUSTICE. BUT CHRIST'S BLOOD CRIES OUT FOR
37:33 US, FOR FORGIVENESS FOR MERCY. FOR GOD TO LOOK AT YOU, HE LOOKS
37:39 AT YOU THROUGH THE BLOOD, AND, YOU KNOW, HE SEES YOU AS THOUGH
37:42 YOU HAVE NEVER SINNED. NOT ONE TIME FROM THE -- FROM
37:47 YOUR VERY BIRTH EVEN UP UNTIL NOW WHEN HE LOOKS AT YOU, HE
37:52 LOOKS AT YOU THROUGH THE BLOOD OF HIS SON, AND SEES YOU PURE
37:57 AND CLEAN BEFORE YOU. AND NOW LET'S ASK GOD BY THE
38:02 POWER OF HIS SPIRIT TO GIVE YOU JUST A GLIMPSE OF HOW HE SEES
38:07 YOU. >> AMEN.
38:09 >> PURE AND CLEAN BEFORE HIM. YOU HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN.
38:13 YOU WALK AWAY FREE. >> AMEN.
38:16 >> BUT I HAVE A DEAR FRIEND. ACTUALLY SHE WORKS HERE.
38:19 AND SHE SAID THAT WHEN SHE REALLY TURNED HER LIFE AROUND
38:25 AND CAME TO THE LORD, SHE KNEW GOD HAS FORGIVEN HER.
38:32 EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID SHE COULD ACCEPT.
38:35 BUT SHE WOULDN'T FORGIVE HERSELF.
38:38 SO SHE WAS TALKING WITH HER PASTOR, AND I WISH -- I HAVE GOT
38:42 IT IN A BOOK, I WROTE IT DOWN. BUT SHE SAID TO HIM, I CAN'T
38:48 FORGIVE MYSELF. AND HE SAID BUT YOU BELIEVE THAT
38:53 GOD HAS FORGIVEN YOU. AND HE SAID YES.
38:56 AND HE SAID SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF WELL, THEN YOU THINK
39:01 YOUR OPINION IS GREATER THAN GODS.
39:03 SHE SAID I DO NOT. AND HE SAID IF GOD CAN FORGIVE
39:09 YOU, BUT YOU CAN'T FORGIVE YOURSELF, THEN IT'S LIKE YOU ARE
39:12 SETTING YOUR JUDGMENT UP ABOVE GOD.
39:15 SHE SAID SHE WAS SO MAD, SHE COULD HAVE JUST SPIT NAILS.
39:19 AND SO SHE WENT AWAY, AND THEN IT WAS ON A SABBATH, AND SHE
39:24 SAID, BEFORE THE SABBATH ENDED, SHE REALIZED THAT SHE WAS
39:29 PUTTING HER OPINION ABOVE THE LORD'S.
39:31 AND SO SHE WA FINALLY ABLE TO ASK GOD TO FORGIVE HER FOR NOT
39:37 GOR -- FORGIVING HERSELF. AND SHE WAS ABLE TO LET GO OF
39:43 THE GUILT AND CONDEMNATION. BECAUSE HEE IS WHAT SATAN WANTS
39:46 TO DO. THE BIBLE SAYS THERE IS NOW
39:51 THEREFORE NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST JESUS.
39:55 NOT ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, BUT ACCORDING TO THE SPIRIT.
39:59 BY WHAT SATAN WANTS TO DO IS HE ROLLS UP THIS SCROLL OF YOUR
40:05 SINS, AND IT'S LIKE A BATON, AND HE WANTS TO HAND OFF THE BATON
40:10 TO YOU, SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT SINS ALL THE TIME, AND IT'S LIKE
40:19 YOU ARE HITTING YOURSELF OF THE HEAD ALL THE TIME WITH THIS
40:23 BATON. AND THIS IS A TECH -- TACTIC OF
40:32 THE DEVIL. >> ABSOLUTELY.
40:35 AMEN. AMEN.
40:37 SATAN BRINGS CONDEMNATION, AND THERE IS A VAST DIFFERENCE
40:45 BETWEEN CONVICTION AND CONDEMNATION.
40:48 MOLLY -- MOLLY DID YOU HAVE A SCRIPTURE IN
40:55 >> YES. LEAVE ME IN THE PATH EVER
40:59 LASTING. AND THAT IS PROVERBS 129:23.
41:07 >> PSALMS? >> DID I SAY PROVERBS?
41:11 >> YES, MA'AM. >> BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS
41:16 QUOTING PROVERBS. >> NO, IT'S PROVERBS --
41:25 >> SMPSALMS. >> I DID IT AGAIN.
41:27 SO WE WANT GOD TO LOOK INTO OUR HEARTS AND SEE IF THERE IS
41:33 ANYTHING THAT IS UNLIKE HIM. AND THEN AS THE LORD BRINGS
41:37 THOSE THINGS TO THE SURFACE, WE CONFESS OUR SINS, AND THEN WE
41:48 CAN STAND IN FRONT OF THE LORD. AND PSALMS 110, OH, LORD, MY
41:56 STRENGTH AND MY REDEEMER. >> AMEN.
41:58 >> AMEN. NEXT QUESTION IS VERY SHORT.
42:02 IT ONLY HAS FOUR WORDS. IT IS FROM ERNEST.
42:12 HE SAID ONCE FORGIVEN ALWAYS FORGIVEN?
42:19 >> WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SKELETONS THAT
42:26 COME UP. MAYBE WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE MOVING
42:29 ON, AND THEN THEY DO SOMETHING, THE SAME KIND OF REPEAT -- LET'S
42:34 JUST USE ADULTERY AS OF -- MAYBE YOU HAVE FORGIVEN YOUR SPOUSE
42:44 FOR ADULTERY, AND YOU ARE MOVING ON, AND A FEW YEARS DOWN THE
42:48 ROAD, THEY DO IT AGAIN. WHAT IS THE FIRST THING THAT
42:54 HAPPENS? YOU GO BACK AGAIN.
42:55 AND IT'S LIKE THAT WHOLE PROCESS OF FORGIVENESS, NOW YOU HAVE TO
42:59 GO THROUGH THE SAME THING. >> UH-HUH.
43:02 >> SO -- >> ABSOLUTELY.
43:03 >> OH, WAIT, I HAVE GOT A PERFECT SCRIPTURE FOR HIM.
43:07 >> OKAY. GOOD.
43:09 >> ONCE FORGIVEN, ALWAYS FORGIVEN.
43:12 HOW COULD I NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF THIS.
43:16 MATTHEW 18:22-35. JESUS ANSWERED THEREFORE THE
43:24 KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS LIKE A KING WHO WANTED TO SETTLE ACCOUNTS
43:27 WITH HIS SERVANTS AND HE BEGAN THE SETTLEMENT, A MAN WHO OWED
43:32 HIM 10,000 TALENTS WAS BROUGHT TO HIM.
43:35 SINCE HE WAS NOT ABLE TO PAY, THE MASTER ORDERED ALL THAT HE
43:39 HAD SOLD -- ALL THAT HE HAD TO BE SOLD TO REPAY THE DEBT.
43:45 THE SERVANT FELL ON HIS KNEES, OH, BE PATIENT WITH ME.
43:50 AND I WILL PAY BACK EVERYTHING. THE SERVANT'S MASTER TOOK PITY
43:55 ON HIM. CANCELED THE DEBT AND LET HIM
43:59 GO. BUT WHEN HE WENT OUT -- HE HAD
44:01 THIS HUGE DEBT THAT WAS FORGIVEN.
44:05 BUT THE SERVANT FOUND ONE OF HIS FELLOW SERVANTS WHO OWED HIM
44:12 100. PAY BACK WHAT YOU OWE ME, HE
44:16 DEMANDED AND HIS FELLOW SERVANT FELL TO HIS KNEES AND BEGGED, BE
44:20 PATIENT WITH ME AND I WILL PAY YOU BACK.
44:23 BUT HE REFUSED. HE WENT OFF AND HAD THE MAN
44:29 THROWN INTO PRISON. AND WHEN THE OTHER SERVANT SAW
44:33 WHAT HAPPENED THEY TOLD THE MASTER WHAT HAPPENED.
44:37 AND THE MASTER SAID YOU WICKED SERVANT, I C-- CANCELED ALL OF
44:46 THAT DEBT. HIS MASTER TURNED HIM OVER TO
44:49 THE JAILERS TO BE TORTURED UNTIL HE COULD PAY BACK ALL THAT HE
44:54 OWED. THIS IS HOW MY HEAVENLY FATHER
44:56 WILL TREAT EACH OF YOU, UNLESS YOU FORGIVE YOUR BROTHER FROM
45:00 YOUR HEART. SO THAT SERVANT HAD HAD A DEBT
45:04 FORGIVEN, BUT BECAUSE HE WAS NOT FORGIVING, HE ENDED UP HAVING TO
45:08 PAY HIS DEBT. >> YEAH.
45:10 WE HAVE JUST A FEW MINUTES LEFT. SO LET'S SEE HOW MANY MORE WE
45:16 CAN GET THROUGH. THIS IS FROM VICKY.
45:18 IF WE HAVE TRULY FORGIVEN SOMEONE, DOES THAT MEAN WE NO
45:23 LONGER FEEL THE PAIN IN >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
45:25 >> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. >> I THINK THE PAIN LESSENS.
45:31 I THINK -- YOU KNOW, IT COMES -- HEALING COMES FROM GOD.
45:35 >> UH-HUH. >> AS LONG AS THE PAIN IS THERE,
45:37 YOU ARE NOT HEALED. I BELIEVE YOU CAN FORGIVE
45:41 SOMEONE AND STILL HAVE PAIN. >> BUT AS YOU HOLD ON TO THAT
45:45 FORGIVENESS, AND AS YOU TRUST GOD, HEALING COMES FROM THE
45:48 LORD. >> YEAH.
45:49 >> THERE IS A SAYING TIME HEALS ALL WOUNDS.
45:53 NA. GOD IS THE ONLY HEALER.
45:55 >> AMEN. AMEN.
45:57 >> SO YOUR HEALING WILL COME FROM GOD.
46:00 >> AND TO ME FORGIVENESS IS A JOURNEY.
46:02 AND I THINK THAT -- I THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
46:08 SCAR AND AN OPEN WOUND. AS YOU ARE STARTING TO
46:14 HEAL -- SAY YOU CUT YOURSELF, AND THERE'S PAIN AND IT'S
46:21 SCABBING, AND EVENTUALLY IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE THERE IS A
46:26 SCAR. I THINK WE WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER,
46:28 BUT TO ME THAT MEANS THE OOZING, AND THE BLOOD, AND ALL OF THAT
46:33 PAIN EVENTUALLY COMES OUT. >> UH-HUH.
46:37 YOU KNOW, I HAVE SITUATIONS IN MY LIFE THAT WERE VERY PAINFUL.
46:40 AND ON THIS SIDE OF IT -- IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T REMEMBER THE
46:47 SITUATIONS, BUT I REMEMBER THEM WITHOUT THE PAIN.
46:49 AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE LORD -- >> HEALED YOU.
46:52 >> ABSOLUTELY. THIS ONE IS ANONYMOUS.
46:56 BUT IF A PERSON CONTINUOUSLY HURTS YOU, AND YOU PRAY FOR
47:02 THEM, YET THE HURT STILL STAYS, WHEN THE THOUGHT OF THE PERSON
47:15 JUST HURTS YOU AFRESH. >> THAT MEANS YOU HAVE NOT
47:18 EXPERIENCED HEALING. >> ABSOLUTELY.
47:20 STILL IN PAIN. >> YEAH, WHEN YOU ARE IN THAT
47:25 MUCH PAIN. I ONCE INTERVIEWED A WOMAN WHO
47:28 HAD BEEN ABUSED TERRIBLY AS A CHILD, BY HER HUSBAND, ON THE
47:35 STREETS, AND SHE COULD SIT AND TELL THESE HORRIBLE TAILS DRY
47:41 EYED, BCAUSE SHE WAS TOTALLY HEALED, BUT SHE SAID, IT DOESN'T
47:47 MEAN THAT THERE ISN'T A TWINGE OF PAIN.
47:49 >> YES. >> SHE SAID THERE ARE THINS
47:51 THAT HAPPENED IN MY LIFE, AND SHE SAID IT IS JUST KIND OF LIKE
47:56 THAT TWINGE OF PAIN FROM SOMEBODY FROM THE PAST, BUT IT
48:00 IS MORE OF -- MAYBE THE PAIN OF A SCAR, AS YOU SAID, INSTEAD OF
48:04 THE PAIN OF THE OPEN WOUND. >> AND THIS PERSON SAYS IT IS
48:11 CONTINUOUSLY HAPPENING. SO WHAT WE WANT TO SAY IS GET
48:14 AWAY FROM THE SITUATION. BUT SOMETIMES YOU CAN'T.
48:18 SAY IT'S HER ABUSIVE MOTHER THAT IS IN A -- HAVING -- IN A HEALTH
48:23 SITUATION, AND SHE HAS TO CONTINUALLY BE THE CAREGIVER TO
48:27 HER MOTHER. THIS IS VERY HYPOTHETICAL, BUT
48:32 SHE IS THE CAREGIVER FOR HER MOTHER.
48:35 AND HER MOTHER CONTINUES TO HURT HER.
48:37 THAT'S A HARD PLACE TO WALK IN, AND TO CONTINUALLY WALK IN PAIN,
48:42 BUT THEN THAT'S WHERE WE PRESENT IT TO THE LORD.
48:46 GODS IS YOUR ONLY HOPE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
48:50 >> I WAS IN A SIMILAR SITUATION TO WHAT YOU JUT SET UP, AND I
48:54 REMEMBER GOING TO THE LORD, AND SAYING OH, LORD, CHANGE HER,
48:59 CHANGE HER. I CONTACT TAKE THIS ANYMORE,
49:02 CHANGE HER. AND IN A SMALL VOICE, THE LORD
49:05 SAID, LET ME CHANGE YOU. >> YES.
49:06 >> AND IT WAS LIKE WHAT? AND HE SAID, I WILL SHOW YOU HER
49:11 THROUGH MY EYES, AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS
49:15 WAS SOMETHING THAT -- BOY THAT WAS A GROWING EXPERIENCE,
49:22 BECAUSE ALL I UNDERSTOOD SUDDENLY IT WASN'T SO PAINFUL,
49:25 BECAUSE I WAS SEEING IT THROUGH GOD'S EYES, WHY -- WHAT WAS THE
49:30 REASON THAT SHE WAS DOING THE THINGS THAT SHE WAS DOING, AND
49:35 EVENTUALLY WE OVERCAME THAT. >> AMEN.
49:37 THIS IS FROM DOROTHY. SHE SAYS WHEN SHE WAS RECOVERING
49:40 FROM SURGERY, A FRIEND CAME TO STAY WITH HER FOR A WEEK, AND
49:45 HER FRIEND HELPED HER GET RID OF CLUTTER AND THINGS.
49:49 HOWEVER, INSTEAD OF THE FRIEND SAYING OKAY, GET RID OF THIS.
49:53 OKAY, DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS? THE FRIEND WENT AHEAD AND TOSSED
49:59 SOME THINGS THAT SHE CONSIDERED VERY VALUABLE.
50:03 I HAVE ONLY SPOKEN TO HER TWICE SINCE TO ASK WHERE THINGS WERE,
50:09 ONLY TO DISCOVER THINK THINGS WERE TOSSED.
50:12 IT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.
50:16 I THINK I SHOULD FORGIVE. BUT I AM NOT ABLE TO.
50:20 HELP. >> OKAY.
50:21 WE HAD A PHONE CALL TODAY. A WOMAN WHO JUST LOST HER
50:28 BROTHER, AND WAS VERY SAD BECAUSE IT WAS SEVEN YEARS THAT
50:32 SHE HAD NOT SPOKEN TO HER BROTHER.
50:36 SHE HAD OTHER SIBLINGS WITH WHOM SHE WAS VERY CLOSE, BUT SHE AND
50:41 THIS BROTHER HAD HAD A FALLING OUT, AND SHE WAS DEVASTATED
50:45 BECAUSE HE HAD PASSED, AND THEY NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
50:50 REALLY HEAL. JUST REMEMBER THIS.
50:54 YOUR FRIEND WAS IN ERROR, YES. SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT.
51:01 BUT FRIENDSHIP IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THESE MATERIAL THINGS.
51:08 PROVERBS 17:9. HE SAYS HE WHO COVERS AND
51:14 FORGIVES IN A SENSE, SEEKS LOVE, BUT HE WHO REPEATS OR HARPS ON A
51:19 MATTER SEPARATES EVEN CLOSE FRIENDS.
51:22 >> YES. >> SO AT THIS POINT, IF YOU ARE
51:26 REALLY A CLOSE FRIEND, YOU KNOW SIT DOWN AND TALK TO HER OR
51:31 WRITE HER AND SAY, YOU KNOW -- IT'S REALLY HARD IN AN
51:36 EMAIL. I WOULD TALK.
51:38 AND SAY I'M JUST SO SAD THAT YOU DID THIS.
51:40 WHY WOULD YOU HAVE DONE THIS? GIVE HER A CHANCE TO EXPLAIN.
51:45 AND MAYBE TO ASK FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS, AND THAT -- IT
51:48 ALWAYS MAKES IT EASIER TO GIVE FORGIVENESS WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS
51:53 FOR FORGIVENESS. >> ABSOLUTELY.
51:56 >> AND A SCRIPTURE THAT MAY HELP IS PSALMS 119.
52:05 SHE OFFENDED YOU. AND WE'RE NOT JUSTIFYING THAT.
52:08 IN THAT WAS WRONG. SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.
52:13 >> I WOULD HAVE BEEN MADDER THAN A WET HEN.
52:16 [ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT LET'S NOT LET THIS OFFEND
52:20 YOU. NOTHING SHALL AFENGD THEE.
52:24 AND I WANT TO GIVE YOU A FEW LITTLE QUOTES FROM THE DESIRE OF
52:29 AGES. AND IT TALKS ABOUT -- IT'S
52:31 CHAPTER 1. IT'S THE LAW OF LIFE FOR HEAVEN
52:38 AND EARTH.-THE LAW OF SELF RENOUNCING LOVE. IN THAT LOVE WHICH SEEKTH NOT
52:45 HER OWN. THE GLORY SHINING IN THE FACE OF
52:49 JESUS IS THE GLORY OF SELF-SACRIFICING LOVE.
52:53 IN THIS CASE, YOU ARE HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SOME
52:56 SACRIFICING. AND THAT IS SACRIFICING
52:58 SOMETHING THAT -- YOU FEEL LIKE WHAT SHE DID TO YOU WAS TOTALLY
53:03 UNJUSTIFIABLE. AND WE TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU ON
53:06 THIS. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR
53:08 WELL-BEING, FOR THE SAKE OF YOU WALKING WITH A HEART THAT IS
53:12 PURE BEFORE THE LORD, THEN YOU FORGIVE HER.
53:15 YOU FORGIVE. YOU -- YOU DON'T FOCUS ON SELF.
53:19 YOU FOCUS ON THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT WE -- THAT -- AS HE
53:25 FORGIVES US, WE MUST FORGIVE OTHERS.
53:27 >> AMEN. >> AND THEN YOU LAY IT AT THE
53:30 FEET OF JESUS AND ALLOW HIS LOVE TO TOUCH YOU.
53:33 >> AMEN. I JUST ALSO WANT TO ENCOURAGE
53:37 YOU IN THIS, THAT WE CAN REMEMBER THAT GOD FORGAVE US,
53:42 AND PSALM 129:4 SAYS THE LORD IS RIGH
53:48 RIGHTEOUS, ASK GOD, SAY, LORD, I KNOW YOU ARE RIGHTEOUS, CUT ME
53:53 FREE FROM THIS CHORD THAT IS BINDING ME.
53:58 BECAUSE $0.01 CORINTHIANS, IN KING JAMES IT SAYS THAT
54:07 LOVE -- HOW DOES IT SAY -- SEEKS NO EVIL.
54:10 BUT IN THE AMPLIFIED IT SAYS LOVE IS NOT -- IT DOES NOT KEEP
54:15 A RECORD OF WRONGDOING. >> AMEN.
54:18 >> SO YOU WANT -- YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO BE IN YOUR HEART,
54:21 BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO COME BETWEEN YOU AND THE LORD.
54:26 SO YOU HAVE GOT FORGIVE HER. IT'S A CHOICE.
54:29 YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT GOD FORGAVE YOU, BUT AS YOU DO ASK
54:35 GOD FOR HIS LOVE INTO YOUR HEART, THEN HE CAN HELP YOU TO
54:39 FORGIVE HER. >> AMEN.
54:41 I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF THE
54:44 SECOND HOUR. IT HAS GONE SO QUICKLY.
54:46 I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AT THE END, AND GO TO THE LORD IN
54:50 PRAYER. I KNOW THAT MANY OF YOU ARE
54:52 HURTING, AND WE WANT TO PRAY FOR YOU.
54:55 WE WANT TO PRAY THAT GOD WOULD GIVE YOU HIS FORGIVENESS.
55:00 THAT HE WOULD GRANT FORGIVENESS, AND YOU COULD POUR THAT OUT INTO
55:04 THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO MAYBE HURT YOU.
55:09 VERONICA, ASKS -- SHE SAYS SHE STRUGGLES WITH FORGIVENESS AND
55:16 WOULD LIKE PRAYER TO HELP HER FORGIVE.
55:20 AND SHELLEY THIS IS FROM ALFRED, AND ASKING PRAYER FOR ERIC AND
55:24 HIS CONVERSION. AND WE DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.
55:27 >> HOLY FATHER I DO BRING VERONICA BEFORE YOUR THROWN OF
55:33 GRACE AND I PRAISE YOU THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN HER A HEART TO WANT
55:39 TO. I ASK THAT YOU DRAW HER INTO A
55:41 CLOSER AND DEEPER RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU, PUT YOUR LOE IN HER
55:47 HEART AND GIVE HER YOUR COURAGE, GRACE, LOVE, AND JOY, AND USE
55:53 HER TO BRING HONOR TO YOUR KINGDOM.
55:57 >> FATHER WE PRAY THAT YOU WILL OPEN ERIC'S EYES, THAT HE MIGHT
56:04 ENJOY THE INHERITANCE AND BE AMONG THOSE WHO HAVE AN
56:08 INHERITANCE, BECAUSE THEY ARE SANCTIFIED BY CHRIST IN JESUS.
56:15 >> AMEN. FATHER WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
56:19 FORGIVENESS, WE RECEIVE IT. AND WE THANK YOU FOR POURING
56:22 THAT INTO OUR HEARTS TO EXTEND TO OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
56:27 WE ASK THIS IN THE PRECIOUS AND HOLY NAME OF JESUS.
56:32 >> AMEN. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MOLLIE AND
56:37 SHELLEY, IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING TO BE WITH EACH OF YOU.
56:40 >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING
56:43 US. KNOW THAT WE CONSIDER YOU AS A
56:45 PART OF OUR 3ABN FAMILY. THAT YOU ARE NOT ONLY SPECIAL TO
56:49 US HERE, AND WE PRAY FOR YOU, BUT YOU ARE MOST IMPORTANTLY
56:52 SPECIAL TO THE HEART OF GOD, THAT HE HAS YOUR NAME ENGRAVENED
56:57 ON THE PALM OF HIS HAND, THAT HE SAYS HE LOVES YOU WITH
57:03 EVER-LASTING LOVE. AND THAT HE WANTS TO TRANSFORM
57:06 YOUR LIFE, AND MAKE YOU FREE IN CHRIST.
57:09 WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN, BYE-BYE. >> AMEN.
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