3ABN Today LIVE

Who are Protestants?

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Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), C.A. Murray, John Lomacang, Kenny Shelton

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00:01 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:06 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:16 ♪ REMOVING PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪
00:24 ♪ LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪
00:31 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
00:42 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
01:05 >> HELLO AND WELCOME TO ANOTHER 3ABN "TODAY LIVE" PROGRAM.
01:09 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AS YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY.
01:12 I WAS JUST TELLING OUR GROUP HERE, THE GOOD LOOKS GUYS THAT
01:17 ARE HERE TONIGHT -- THEY ARE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER ALREADY
01:21 SAYING WHO IS HE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I WAS TELLING THEM, THIS MAY
01:26 BE THE MOST UNPREPARED PROGRAM WE HAVE EVER DONE, BUT ON THE
01:29 OTHER HAND, WE PRAYED AND ASKED THE HOLY SPIRIT RIGHT BEFORE THE
01:38 SHOW STARTED. DON'T WE HAVE KENNY SHELTON CA
01:47 MURRAY AND JOHN LOMACANG.-WE DIDN'T REALLY PLAN THIS PROGRAM, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T
01:51 PLAN IT, BUT I CALLED JOHN THE OTHER NIGHT -- PASTOR JOHN, AND
01:55 I SAID WE NEED TO DO A PROGRAM ON WHO ARE THE PROTESTANTS?
02:00 BECAUSE I'M AMAZING HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE PROTESTANTS AND THEY
02:04 DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY ARE. AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
02:07 WORD PROTESTANT MEANS OR WHERE IT CAME FROM.
02:11 AND I HAVE NOTICED FROM MY EXPERIENCE FROM A PROTESTANT
02:17 PERSPECTIVE, OTHER PROTESTANTS GET UPSET AT YOU.
02:23 MAYBE MORE SO THAN OTHER PROTESTANTS.
02:25 AND I SAID I'M AMAZING -- AND MAYBE IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS
02:29 TONIGHT, IT MIGHT PUT A WHOLE NEW PERSPECTIVE TO MILLIONS OF
02:33 PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD THAT REALLY -- MAYBE DOESN'T KNOW WHO
02:37 THE WORD PROTESTANT MEANS, OR WHO IS REPRESENTED BY
02:43 PROTESTANTISM. SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST
02:45 CHRISTIANS, WE ARE PROTESTANT. HOW ABOUT THE BAPTISTS?
02:48 >> PROTESTANT. >> HOW ABOUT PENTECOSTALS?
02:53 >> THE KEY IS SO MANY CLAIM TO BE, BUT TONIGHT AS WE DEFINE IT,
02:58 WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT THEM ON THE SHELF WHERE THY BELONG.
03:02 >> METHODIST? >> THEY CLAIM TO BE.
03:05 >> PROTESTANT. >> CATHOLIC?
03:07 >> NO. THEY DON'T EVEN CLAIM TO BE.
03:09 >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GETTING A HANDLE ON
03:12 THIS. SO TONIGHT WE WANT YOU TO CALL
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03:49 AND WE HAVE HAD A BUSY WEEK, ALL OF US.
03:52 I KNOW I HAVE. I AM DOING BUILDING OUTSIDE,
03:57 KENNY, AND I CALLED BROTHER RONNIE, AND HE SAID I HAVE BEEN
04:05 BUILDING OUTSIDE. AND THE WEATHER HAS BEEN
04:07 BEAUTIFUL. BUT IT'S HOT.
04:09 AND I'M PRAISING THE LORD EVERY DAY.
04:11 I GO OUTSIDE AND I SAY WHAT A GOOD GOD.
04:14 I LOOK AT THE SUNSETS THIS TIME OF YEAR, AND YOU SAY ISN'T IT
04:20 AMAZING THAT WE SERVE A CREATOR GOD, SEASON WHO CREATED THIS
04:24 ENTIRE UNIVERSE, AND CREATED YOU AND ME.
04:27 AND WE'RE HERE FOR A REASON IN THE CLOSING MOMENTS OF EARTH'S
04:32 HISTORY. >> AMEN.
04:33 >> AND I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, KENNY, I DON'T -- WHEN YOU GET A
04:36 CERTAIN AGE, AND ALL OF US ARE ABOUT THIS CRTAIN AGE AND OVER,
04:40 THAT THAT'S HARDLY ANYTHING THAT CAN SHOCK YOU.
04:43 >> WELL -- >> BUT I'M FINDING THINGS THAT
04:46 SHOCK ME ALMOST DAILY THAT'S GOING ON IN TH WORLD, AND I'M
04:49 LIKE THAT CAN'T BE HAPPENING. I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF I SHOULD
04:52 SAY THIS, I THINK I WILL, AND I'LL APOLOGIZE LATER, BUT I WAS
04:59 TAKING TO BRIAN HAMILTON WHO HAS A PRISON MINISTRY, AND I FOUND
05:04 OUT THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SUPPLIES SOME OF THE MEN WHO
05:08 CHOOSE TO BE TRANSGENDERS -- TRANSGENDERS,
05:14 PANTIES, WOMEN'S UNDERWEAR, BRAS, HOSE, LIPSTICK, MAKE IP,
05:21 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING THAT OUT OF OUR TAX DOLLARS.
05:24 NOW I'M SHOCKED. WHEN WE LOOK AROUND US --
05:28 >> UH-HUH. >> -- AT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE
05:31 WORLD, AND THE CRAZY THING THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE GOVERNMENT
05:35 IN AND OUTSIDE -- AND POLITICS AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON,-THIS WORLD IS QUICKLY COMING TO
05:40 AN END. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
05:42 >> SO IF THERE WAS EVER A TIME THAT WE NEED TO STAND
05:45 SOMEWHERE -- >> COME ON NOW.
05:47 >> -- ON SOMETHING SOLID, IT'S RIGHT NOW.
05:49 >> AMEN. >> SO I WROTE A BOOK CORRECTLY
05:53 CALLED "SPIRITUAL VIGILANTES." AND ONE OF THE REASONS I WROTE
05:56 IT, KENNY IS BECAUSE I SEE SO MANY THINGS, AND I SAY WHAT
06:00 HAPPENED TO COMMON SENSE, WHAT HAPPENED TO SPIRITUAL SENSE.
06:03 >> YES. >> AND THE LORD HAS BLESSED ON
06:06 THAT, AND I WANT TO THANK FIRST OF ALL, THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
06:10 FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING, AND MAKING DONATIONS, AND WITH THOSE
06:15 DONATIONS WE PURCHASE THE BOOKS, AND GIVE THEM TO ANYONE WHO WILL
06:18 PASS THEM OUT. AND IN THE LAST ABOUT THREE
06:22 MONTHS WE HAVE HAD OVER 450,000 ORDERS.
06:28 BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYMORE MONEY. BUT BY FAITH, WE'RE GETTING
06:34 EMAILS, AND PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE WHO SAY THIS BOOK IS LIFE
06:39 CHANGING. WE GIVE GOD THE CREDIT FOR THAT.
06:41 BUT I GUESS I'M ALL WOUND UP HERE TONIGHT.
06:44 BECAUSE COMMON SENSE IS OUT THE -pWINDOW, AND YOU LOOK AROUND AND THINGS THAT YOU -- ANY OF US
06:50 SITTING HERE, MANY OF YOU TEN YEARS AGO, YOU COULD HAVE NEVER
06:54 DREAMED THAT YOU COULD TURN ON YOUR TELEVISION, AND HEAR
06:59 LANGUAGE, HEAR CONTEXT SUBJECT, I'M TALKING ABOUT SECULAR AND
07:04 EVEN IN A CHRISTIAN WORLD. I'M AMAZED AT THE DIRECTION SOME
07:08 FOLKS ARE GOING. SO I SAID WE HAVE GOT TO DO
07:11 SOMETHING, BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHO WE ARE.
07:14 WE ARE ALL SINNERS SAVED BY GRACE.
07:17 GOD CREATED US. HE SAID HE IS COMING BACK FOR
07:21 HIS PEOPLE. NO MORE SICKNESS, PAIN, SORROW,
07:25 DEATH. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO?
07:28 IT'S A FREE GIFT. AND WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THE FACT
07:32 THAT WE'RE SINNER. AND ASK JESUS TO FORGIVE US OF
07:38 OUR SENSES, AND HE WILL CLEANSE US OF ALL OUR SINS.
07:45 AND YOU AND ME HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, THE PRIVILEGE, BUT
07:53 TODAY YOU AND ME ARE GOING TO BE BLOWN BY EVERY DOCTRINE IF WE
08:01 DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE AND WHY WE BELIEVE WHAT WE BELIEVE.
08:04 SO AS I WAS TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS, ESPECIALLY
08:08 WRITING THIS BOOK -- AND THIS BOOK COVERS SOME OF THESE
08:11 TOPICS, I WAS AMAZED AT PEOPLE THAT SAY, YOU ADVENTISTS, I
08:17 HEARD YOU SAY SUCH AND SUCH ABOUT THE PAPACY OR WHAT HAVE
08:23 YOU. YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT.
08:25 I SAID AREN'T YOU A PROTESTANT? I SAID TO ONE MAN, DO YOU KNOW
08:32 WHAT THAT MEANS? AND HE SAID, I GUESS.
08:35 SO WE'LL ASK YOU TO CALL IN LATER ON, BUT I HAVE GOT THREE
08:39 GUYS WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES TO THE LORD, AND ARE VERY WELL
08:44 STUDIED ON ANY SUBJECT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER.
08:48 SO BROTHER CA WE WANT TO OPEN WITH A PRAYER.
08:50 AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK FAST -- HARD AND FAST TONIGHT,
08:55 BUT WITH GOD'S BLESSINGS, WE'RE GOING TO GET UNDERSTANDING.
09:04 WE NEED EYE SALVE SO WE CAN SEE THE PLAN THAT GOD HAS FOR US.
09:09 >> YES. >> AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW
09:12 SOMETHING, WHEN JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS, YOU WERE ON HIS MIND.
09:15 >> AMEN. >> SO TONIGHT LET'S SAY A
09:18 PRAYER, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS SUBJECT TONIGHT,
09:21 THAT I THINK IT'S GOING TO GO IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
09:25 >> I WILL SAY QUICKLY BEFORE PRAYER, IT'S VITAL.
09:29 I'M THANKFUL FOR THIS SUBJECT. THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS INVOLVED
09:34 WITH IT, BECAUSE I JUST TALKED TO A MAN NOT TOO LONG AGO.
09:38 HE IS A PROTESTANT. HE IS LOOKING AND STUDYING AND
09:42 READING. AND HE IS LOOKING AROUND.
09:44 HE SAID WHERE ARE THEY? AND HE SAID YOU KNOW WHAT?
09:48 I'M WITHDRAWING FROM ANY CHURCH. I'M JUST NOT GOING TO GO
09:52 ANYMORE. BECAUSE NO ONE IS PROTESTING
09:55 THESE UNTRUTHS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
09:57 >> HUH OH. >> SO YOU CAN OVERBALANCE A
09:59 LITTLE BIT HERE OR THERE, BUT STILL, YET, HE IS CONCERNED
10:03 BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROTESTING AGAINST ERROR.
10:06 SO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALMOST GIVEN UP ON THE LORD,
10:10 GIVEN UP THEIR RELATIONSHIP BECAUSE OF THIS SUBJECT THAT
10:15 THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND. AND I TRIED TO SAY TO HIM, I
10:19 SAID LISTEN, I WILL SAY THIS, EVERY TIME SOMEBODY TELLS THE
10:23 TRUTH, EVERY TIME YOU APPROACH A SUBJECT, AND YOU TELL THE TRUTH,
10:26 YOU ARE PROTESTING ERROR BY GIVING THE TRUTH.
10:30 >> LIKE IT. >> THAT'S GOOD.
10:32 >> YEAH. >> I'M THANKFUL FOR THAT.
10:36 HE SAID I'M NOT PROTESTANT -- EVERY TIME YOU
10:39 TELL THE TRUTH, YOU ARE PROTESTING TO HIGH TO HEAVEN.
10:44 SO THIS IS REAL SUBJECT AND PEOPLE ARE MAKING DECISIONS
10:48 RIGHT NOW. SOME OF DROPPING OUT.
10:50 LET'S PULL TOGETHER. >> ALL RIGHT.
10:54 PASTOR CA. >> FATHER WE PRAISE YOU FOR THE
10:58 OPPORTUNITY TO LIFT UP THE WORD OF JESUS AND TO KNOW THE NAME OF
11:03 GOD. WE ASK EVEN NOW FOR THE PRESENCE
11:05 AND POWER OF YOUR HOLY SPIRIT, FOR ME MUST SAY PLAIN THINGS, WE
11:11 ARE CALLED TO SAY SHARP THINGS SOMETIME, AND IN THESE LAST
11:15 DAYS, THE WATERS HAVE BEEN SO MUDDIED AND SO HOMOGENIZED BY
11:21 DOCTRINES THAT HAVE COME TOGETHER BY HALVE TRUTHS, ALMOST
11:25 TRUTHS, NEAR TRUTHS, PARALLEL TRUTH, ALTERNATE FACTS.
11:31 FATHER WE WANT THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
11:34 TRUTH. WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW
11:36 YOUR WILL FOR US AS A PEOPLE, AND YOUR WILL FOR THIS WORLD
11:41 THAT IS FAST COMING TO A CLOSE. SO BLESS US, MAY CHRIST BE SEEN
11:46 AND FELT, MAY THIS NIGHT WE GET A NEW GLIMPSE OF THE KING AND
11:51 THE SOON-COMING KINGDOM. AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOU HAVE
11:55 ASKED US TO DO, AND ANSWER TO THE PRAYER OF FAITH.
12:01 AMEN. >> AMEN.
12:03 >> RIGHT NOW, JOHN, WHY DON'T YOU SET A FOUNDATION FOR US, AND
12:07 MAYBE HAVE SOME QUOTES AND SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HELP US
12:12 UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A PROTESTANT.
12:14 >> SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROTESTANTISM, AND THE
12:19 PROTESTANT REFORMATION, BECAUSE THIS WILL BE THE 500TH
12:24 ANNIVERSARY OF THE BREAK AWAY FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
12:28 IT STARTS WITH THE QUESTION, A PROTESTANT IS A FORM OF
12:31 CHRISTIANITY, WHICH ORIGINATED WITH THE REFORMATION, A MOVEMENT
12:35 AGAINST WHAT ITS FOLLOWERS CONSIDERED TO BE ERRORS IN THE
12:42 ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. THAT'S THE OXFORD DICTIONARY.
12:46 >> OKAY. >> PROTESTANTS, PROTESTED, AND
12:51 MARTIN LUTHER, ALTHOUGH HE IS KNOWN AS THE FATHER OF THE
12:54 REFORMATION, IT GOES FURTHER BACK THAN HIM.
12:58 THE OLDEST PROTESTANT CHURCHES STARTED IN THE 14TH CENTURY, BY
13:05 JOHN HUSS. THEY PROTESTED THINGS THEY CALL
13:12 ACIMINI. YOU CAN REMEMBER SIMON WHO
13:19 OFFERED MONEY. SO THE PROTESTANTS SAW THAT THE
13:24 SELLING AND BUYING OF -- OF CLERICAL OFFICES BY THE ROMAN
13:29 CATHOLIC -- THEY SOLD POSITIONS. THEY CALLED IT CIMINI, OR
13:36 SIMONI. SO THE PROTESTANTS SAID HOW CAN
13:41 YOU DO THAT? HOW CAN YOU SELL IT TO THE
13:44 HIGHEST BIDDER. AND THEY SOLD INDULGENCES, AND
13:49 THERE WERE MANY ABUSES THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH STARTED TO
13:54 FOSTER. SO THOSE WHO BELIEVED IN THE
13:55 SOLID FOUNDATION OF SCRIPTURE SAID WE CANNOT PARTAKE OF THAT,
14:01 SO JOHN HUSS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST EARLY PROTESTANT
14:08 REFORMERS, AND WHEN MARTIN LUTHER CAME ON THE SCENE HE WAS
14:13 CALLED THE LATER REFORMANT. BUT LET'S LOOK AT THE OTHER
14:22 SLIDE. ON THIS ONE, IT SIMPLY MEANS
14:25 LATIN BY SCRIPTURE ALONE, IS A CHRISTIAN THEOLOGICAL DOCTRINE
14:32 WHICH HOLDS THAT THE CHRISTIAN SCRIPTURES ARE THE SOUL
14:39 INFALLIBLE FAITH AND RULE OF PRACTICE.
14:49 A ONE OF THE FIVE. BY GRACE ALONE.
14:52 SO -- BUT -- BUT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, AT THE TIME
14:56 KNOWN AS THE CHURCH OF ROME THAT EVOLVED LATER, GAVE IT THE UNITY
15:02 OF CATHOLICISM, A PEG GAN RELIGION BAPTIZED BY THE STATE
15:07 OF ROAM, AND IT WAS DONE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE CHRISTIANS THAT
15:12 WERE MOVING AWAY THERE THE POWERS OF ROME.
15:16 SO HOW CAN WE GAIN ACCESS TO THE CHRISTIANS.
15:19 THEY BAPTIZED PEG -- PAGANISM. AND THEN THE CLAIRIAN CALLED
15:34 SOLA SCRIPTORI, SO IF YOUR BELIEFS ARE FOUND IN THE BIBLE,
15:42 THEN YOU ARE A PROTESTANT. BUT IF YOUR BELIEFS THAT YOU
15:46 EMBRACE ARE NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE, BUT FOUND ON
15:50 TRADITIONAL SHELVES, SUCH AS FROM ROMANISM, OR ANY OTHER
15:55 DENOMINATIONAL GROUP, THEN YOU ARE NOT A PROTESTANT.
15:58 BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY, IF YOUR TEACHING MERGE WITH THE
16:05 TEACHINGS OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM, YOU ARE NOT A PROTESTANT.
16:08 >> OKAY. >> THAT'S THE BASICS.
16:10 >> YOU TALKED ABOUT SO MANY CHURCHES CLAIM TO BE PROTESTANT.
16:14 >> RIGHT. >> WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT SHOWS
16:17 THAT MOST CHURCHES AREN'T PROTESTANT.
16:18 AND THIS COMES FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ITSELF.
16:21 I HAVE GOT HERE WITH ME, THE CONFESSION, WHICH I WANT TO LOOK
16:28 AT, AND THEN I HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF THAT, THAT
16:34 MANY CHURCHES WHO CLAIM TO BE PROTESTANT, MANY HAVE ABANDONED
16:38 THEIR PROTESTANTISM, AND MANY NEVER WERE.
16:44 MOST ARE NOT PROTESTANT. SOME NEVER WERE, AND SOME ARE
16:50 ONLY PRETEND PROTESTANT.-JOHN, THAT'S CORRECT, THEE WERE MANY WHO WAS PART OF THE
16:59 PROTESTANT REFORMATION. JOHN HUSS GOT HIS START READING
17:04 THE WRITING OF WY-CLIFF. THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO HAD THIS
17:14 IDEA OF RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH, WHICH IS THE HEART OF THE
17:22 PROTESTANT DENOMINATION, AS FAR BACK AS THE 1800S.
17:32 PEOPLE LIKE AUGUSTINE, JEROME, SOME OF THESE EARLY PEOPLE WHO
17:37 WERE SO DEEP INTO THE SYSTEM, THEY COULDN'T GET FREE THIS THE
17:40 THING THAT DISTINGUISHED LUTHER, AND LUTHER WHEN HE GOT STARTED,
17:44 DANNY, HE WASN'T INTENDING TO START A NEW FAITH.
17:48 HE WAS TRYING TO REFORM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
17:50 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> HE WANTED TO CHANGE THE BAD
17:53 THINGS IN THE CHURCH. HE SAW THEM, IN PARTICULAR THE
17:57 SELLING OF INDULGENCES. HE WAS GERMAN, JOHAN COMES TO
18:06 GERMANY, AND AS YOU HEAR THE CLINK IN THE BOTTOM OF THE
18:09 BASKET, YOUR SINS IN THE PAST ARE TAKEN CARE OF, YOUR PRESENT
18:13 SINS ARE TAKEN CARE OF, AND YOUR FUTURE SINS ARE TAKEN CARE OF,
18:18 AND ANYBODY ELSE YOU PAY FOR, THEIR SINS WILL BE TAKEN CARE
18:22 OF. AND LUTHER KNEW THAT CANNOT BE
18:25 RIGHT. I ACTUALLY GOT THE NAME
18:27 IT'S -- IT'S AN INTERESTING NAME.
18:31 THE NAME WAS DISPEWATION ON THE POWER AND EFFICACY OF
18:37 INDULGENCES. 95 DIFFERENT SERMONS ON THE
18:40 POWER AND EFFICACY OF INDULGENCES.
18:44 BASICALLY HE WAS SAYING THIS IS WRONG.
18:47 CAN WE USE THE TERM RIPPING PEOPLE OFF?
18:49 >> YEAH. >> AND YOU ARE RAISING MONEY,
18:51 BUT YOU ARE RAISING MONEY ON A FALSE PREMISE.
18:56 AND HE KNEW THAT GOD COULDN'T BE IN THERE.
19:00 GOD DOESN'T LIE, AND YOU CAN'T BUY YOUR WAY INTO HEAVEN.
19:05 SO HIS HEART TOLD HIM, THAT CANNOT BE RIGHT, SO HE STARTED
19:09 OUT TO TRY TO REFORM THE CHURCH, AND IT WASN'T SO MUCH THAT HE
19:13 WALKED AWAY FROM THE CHURCH, THE CHURCH THREW HIM UNDER THE BUS.-I MEAN THEY GOT RID OF HIM, AND
19:20 HE SIMPLY COULD NOT STAY, BECAUSE HE COULD NOT BE PART OF
19:25 ERROR. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT EACH
19:28 PERSON NEEDS TO ASK THEMSELVES TODAY.
19:30 IF I'M GOING TO PUT MY LIFE AND DESTINY ON THIS, IT HAS TO BE
19:33 TRUTH, AND IF THERE'S ERROR IN ITS DOCTRINAL PACKAGES, THEN YOU
19:40 HAVE GOT TO FIND TRUTH AND PURSUE TRUTH.
19:42 >> AMEN. >> DID YOU WANT TO SAY
19:45 SOMETHING, KENNY? >> WELL, YOU TALK ABOUT THE
19:48 PROTESTANT HERE, AND I'M A BELIEVER OF THE SPIRIT OF
19:55 CONTROVERSY. I JOTTED DOWN -- JUST A FEW
19:57 LINES, I THOUGHT INTERESTING. IT SAYS ONE OF THE NOBLEST
20:02 TESTIMONIES EVER UTTERED BY THE REFORMATION WAS THE PROTEST
20:06 OFFERED BY THE CHRISTIAN PRINCES OF GERMANY.
20:11 NOTICE, IT SAYS AT THE DIE OF SPIRES IN 1829.
20:16 THE COURAGE, FAITH, AND FIRMNESS OF THESE MEN, AND IT TAKES THAT
20:20 IN THIS HOUR THAT WE LIVE AS WELL AS BACK THEN, WE'LL SEE IT
20:24 HEIGHTENED AS WE GO ALONG -- IT SAID THESE MEN GAINED FOR THE
20:28 SUCCEEDING AGES, LIBERTY OF THOUGHT AND CONSCIOUS, THEIR
20:32 PROTEST GAVE TO THE REFORM CHURCH, THE NAME PROTESTANT.
20:37 ITS PRINCIPLES ARE THE VERY ESSENCE OF PROTESTANTISM.
20:42 THEY TAKE IT FROM THE HISTORIAN. THERE IS A LOT OF HISTORY
20:48 INVOLVED IN THAT. AND THE OTHER POINT, QUICKLY,
20:54 LUTHER, HE WENT ABOUT -- HE WAS INTERESTED IN TRUTH.
20:57 HE WENT ABOUT CONVINCING PEOPLE THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN FINE OUT
21:01 WHAT REALLY IS TRUTH IS THE BIBLE AND THE BIBLE ONLY.
21:05 HE WROTE THAT, AND HE SAID LUTHER HAS PERSUADED HIS
21:10 FOLLOWERS TO PUT NO FAITH IN ANY OTHER ORACLES THAN THE HOLY
21:15 SCRIPTURE. SO PRAISE GOD, AND I JUST THINK
21:17 OF HOW THAT RELATES TO US TODAY. SAME THANK.
21:21 >> AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE JOHN CALVIN, OTHER PROTESTANT
21:26 REFORMERS THAT BUILT ON THE PREMISE THAT MARTIN LUTHER
21:30 CHAMPIONED, BUT THEN EVEN BEFORE HIM, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE
21:33 PUZZLE CALLED WHERE IS WALLDO, YEARS AGO.
21:43 BUT PETER WALDO WAS CREDITED WITH STARTING THE MOVEMENT.
21:48 THEY WERE A GROUP THAT HAD NO DEFINITIVE ANCHOR, BUT THEY
21:52 JOINED TOGETHER WIT OTHER PEOPLE THAT PROTESTED THINGS
21:55 THAT WERE NOT SUPPORTED BY SCRIPTURE.
21:58 BUT WHERE ROME SHOT BACK IN WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE COUNTER
22:03 REFORMATION, IN 1665 POPE REGIO CLAIMED AND CREATED AN EDICT
22:09 SAYING THAT THE BIBLE -- THAT TRADITION IS ON PAR WITH THE
22:13 BIBLE, SO TRADITION -- THEY CALLED IT SACRED TRADITIONS.
22:16 WHICH THEY SAID, WE MAKE IT SACRED, AND SINCE IT'S OUR
22:20 TRADITION, WE CONSIDER IT ON PAR WITH THE BIBLE.
22:22 BUT LATER ON THEY PASSED ANOTHER EDICT SAYING THAT TRADITION IS
22:26 ABOVE THE BIBLE. SO WHAT HAPPENS TODAY IS THOUGH
22:31 AS WE SAY THAT CLAIM TO BE PROTESTANTS, ARE FOLLOWING
22:36 TRADITIONS THAT ARE NOT FOUNDED ON THE BIBLE.
22:38 AND WHEN YOU BEGIN TO EXAMINE, THE ONLY ONES THAT REALLY TELL
22:42 YOU THE TRUTH -- THIS IS CRAZY -- IS THE ROMAN CATHOLIC
22:50 CHURCH. THEY SAY WE KNOW IT IS NOT
22:53 SCRIPTURAL, BUT THE PROBLEM IS, YOU GUYS ARE FOLLOWING SOMETHING
22:56 THAT YOU SAY IS IN THE BIBLE, AND WE'RE SAYING IT IS NOT IN
22:59 THE BIBLE. >> AMEN.
23:01 >> LOOK AT THIS -- AND MAYBE BRING THE MUSIC UP AFTER THIS.
23:05 THIS IS AN AMAZING EXAMPLE. I BROUGHT THIS UP FOR THAT VERY
23:10 POINT. THE PROTESTANT QUESTION.
23:12 THERE IS THE REFERENCE AT THE BOTTOM.
23:15 HOW PROVE YOU THAT THE CHURCH HAVE POWER TO COMMAND A FEAST IN
23:20 HOLY DAYS. ANSWER BY THE VERY ACT OF
23:23 CHANGING THE SABBATH INTO SUNDAY, WHICH PROTESTANTS ALLOW
23:31 OF, AND THEREFORE THEY CONTRADICT THEMSELVES.
23:36 >> WOW. THAT WAS WRITTEN BY NOT
23:39 PROTESTANTS. >> EXACTLY.
23:40 >> THAT WAS WRITTEN BY -- >> THE REFERENCES ARE THERE.
23:48 IF YOU CONTACT US, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE REFERENCES.
23:51 AND I HAVE SO MANY MORE WE'LL BRING OUT TONIGHT.
23:54 BUT THE POINT OF THE MATTER IS WHEN CHRISTIANS SAY THIS IS
24:00 SCRIPTAL, AND ROME SAYS SHOW IT TO ME.
24:02 >> YEAH. >> SO THAT TRY TO PULL THIS OUT
24:05 BY SAYING -- WELL, JOHN WAS IN THE SPIRIT ON THE LORD'S DAY.
24:10 WELL THE DISCIPLES BROKE BREAD ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE WEEK.
24:15 WELL, THEY BROKE BREAD EVERY DAY.
24:17 THEY GATHERED ON THE FIRST DAY FOR FEAR OF THE JEWS, BECAUSE
24:22 JESUS JUST DIED. THEY ONLY HAVE FOUR ATTEMPTS TO
24:28 SOLIDIFY ANY SCRIPTURAL ATTEMPT FOR SUNDAY, AND THEY SAID WE
24:31 ESTABLISHED SUNDAY, THEREFORE, WE ARE THE AUTHORITY BY WHICH
24:34 YOU PRACTICE. >> THEY SPEAK BOLDLY.
24:37 >> THEY SPEAK BOLDLY. THEY DON'T HIDE IT.
24:40 >> YOU SPEAK BOLDLY, RIGHT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU READ OR
24:45 QUOTE FROM THEIR OWN WRITINGS. THEY SAY THAT ABOUT THEMSELVES.
24:51 SO YOU FEEL AT LIBERTY, AND SO YOU JUST SAY IT, AND PEOPLE LOOK
24:56 AT YOU LIKE YOU LOST YOUR MIND. >> WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON
25:00 THIS PROGRAM, THIS PROGRAM IS NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF BASHING
25:03 CATHOLICS. >> NO.
25:04 >> MOST OF MY FAMILY IS CATHOLIC.
25:07 THIS -- THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO CALIBRATE.
25:10 >> OKAY. >> AND THE QUESTION I PITCHED
25:13 THEM -- PASTOR CA AND I HAVE DONE THIS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS,
25:17 WHY DO YOU DO WHAT YOU DO? AND WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY BEHIND
25:21 IT? IF IT IS FROM THE WORD OF GOD,
25:24 YOU ARE ON A SAFE PLATFORM. BUT IF IT'S TRADITION, YOU ARE
25:29 ON A SHAKY PLATFORM. IF YOU ARE CHRISTIAN -- IF YOU
25:33 LOVE THE LORD -- THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE, WE'RE NOT CONDEMNING
25:36 YOU, BUT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE LIVING IN AND DAY WITH SPIRITUAL
25:49 VIGILANTES, PEOPLE HAVE TWISTED IT TO SIT WHAT THEY BELIEVE
25:52 RATHER THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
25:55 >> WE EXPLAINED QUITE A BIT OF THIS TONIGHT, PROTESTANTISM, AND
25:59 HOW IT CAME ABOUT, AND HOW THE REFORMATION STARTED, BECAUSE THE
26:03 EFFECT -- WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT CA, WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE
26:07 SAY I HAVE READ THE HISTORY. I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW,
26:12 A THOUSAND YEARS AGO. I KNOW ABOUT MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
26:15 BEING PERSECUTED BY THE CHURCH OF ROME.
26:17 I KNOW ABOT THE BREAK AWAY, BUT TODAY THERE'S SO MUCH DIVISION
26:23 IN THE WORLD, WHY DON'T WE ALL JUST COME TOGETHER.
26:28 SO I WANT YOU GUYS TO ADDRESS THAT.
26:31 YOU HAD ANOTHER POINT, I THINK YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE, AND THEN
26:35 ADDRESS -- THAT ACTUALLY SOUNDS PRETTY GOOD.
26:37 WE'RE CALLED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, BUT WE ARE SURE NOT
26:41 UNITED. WE'RE A MESS.
26:42 YOU HAVE ALL OF THE CHURCHES THAT CLAIM TO BE CHRISTIAN, BUT
26:46 WE'RE NOT UNITED, SO TODAY MOST OF WHAT PEOPLE -- AND I THINK
26:50 THEY ARE WATCHING HERE -- NOBODY IS GOING TO ARGUE US SO FAR,
26:54 BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO ARGUE WITH THE TRUTH WHEN IT'S OUT THERE,
26:58 ANY HISTORIAN, AND JOHN LOOKED UP HIS OWN THINGS -- LIKE
27:04 WIKIPEDIA, YOU CAN GO TO ALL OF THESE DICTIONARIES, BUT PEOPLE
27:08 SAY WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
27:11 THIS IS 500 YEARS LATER. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE.
27:17 CA? >> YEAH.
27:17 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SAYS WE ARE TOGETHER.
27:20 YOU ARE STILL CATHOLIC. >> OH, REALLY?
27:22 >> WHAT -- WHAT KENNY READ -- PASTOR KENNY -- I'M
27:28 GOING TO CALL YOU KENNY FOR SHORT.
27:31 WHAT KENNY READ FROM ELLEN WHITE.
27:38 THE NEXT YEAR THEY GOT TOGETHER TO FORM WHAT CAME OUT IN 1534 AS
27:42 THE CONFESSION. THEY PRESENTED IT TO CHARLES THE-pFIFTH.
27:46 IT WENT THROUGH 28 FUNDAMENTALS THAT ARE PART OF THE LUTHERAN
27:51 CHURCH IN LINE WITH LUTHER'S TEACHING.
27:56 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS SEARCHING FOR A WAY TO REFRUIT
28:04 PROTESTANTISM. AND THEY HAD 18 YEARS OF BISHOPS
28:07 MEETING. AND THEY WERE STRUGGLING.
28:09 THEY PASSED A LOT OF THINGS, AND JUST BEFORE THE END, THEY PASSED
28:13 THE IDEA THAT TRADITION -- WHEN YOU THINK OF TRENT, YOU THINK OF
28:17 TRADITION. TRADITION WAS EQUAL WITH
28:20 SCRIPTURE. THAT IN FACT, TRADITION TRUMPS
28:22 SCRIPTURE, AND THE CHURCH IS THE ARBITER OF TRADITION, AND IF
28:30 WHAT THE CHURCH TEACHES DISAGREES WITH SCRIPTURE, YOU GO
28:34 WITH THE CHURCH. SO THEY ARE THINKING WHAT CAN WE
28:37 DO TO DEAL WITH -- BECAUSE WE NEED A DOCTRINE.
28:42 JOHN MENTIONED POPE REGIO, HE WAS ARCHBISHOP AT THE TIME.
28:50 HE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT EVERY CATHOLIC THEOLOGIAN USED
28:56 IN WHOLE OR PART, IT'S CALLED THE CATHOLIC INCONSISTENCY.
29:01 YOU SAY YOU BELIEVE IN SOLA SCRIPTORA.
29:11 THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY. SUNDAY TEACHING IS NOT IN THE
29:16 BIBLE. SO IF YOU KEEP SUNDAY, YOU DON'T
29:20 BELIEVE, YOU ARE DE FACTO CATHOLIC, BECAUSE SUNDAY IS OUR
29:24 DAY. AND IF YOU LOOK AT ANY TREATISE
29:29 THAT DEFENDS CATHOLICISM THAT REASONING IS THERE IN WHOLE OR
29:33 IN PART. YOU SAY YOU -- YOU BUILD YOUR
29:37 KINGDOM ON SOLA SCRIPTORA. BUT YOUR MAIN DAY OF WORSHIP IS
29:45 CATHOLIC. WE CHANGED THE DAY.
29:47 IT'S OUR DAY. WE CHANGED IT BECAUSE WE CAN DO
29:50 TRADITION OVER THE BIBLE, SO IF YOU ARE KEEPING SUNDAY, NUMBER
29:54 ONE YOU ARE NOT SOLA SCRIPTORA. AND SO YOU ARE JUST BRATTY
30:09 CHILDREN WHO DON'T WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE MOTHER, BUT YOU
30:12 ARE CATHOLIC, NOT PROTESTANT. SO A WHOLE LOT OF CHURCHES JUST
30:17 GOT PUT ON THE SHELF BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PROTESTANT.
30:20 THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SAYS YOU ARE CATHOLIC.
30:24 >> MAYBE IT'S A GOOD TIME TO SAY THAT GOD HAS PEOPLE IN ALL
30:27 CHURCHES. >> TRUE.
30:28 >> SO TONIGHT WHEN WE'RE TALKING -- I HAVE GOT SOME VERY
30:32 GOOD FRIENDS THAT ARE CATHOLIC. AND WE TALK FRIENDSHIP.
30:36 WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL TOGETHER, THINGS LIKE THAT.
30:38 ONE OF THE WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO EAT WITH THE FAMILY AND DO
30:43 SOME THINGS, BECAUSE THEY ARE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
30:46 SO DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO BE MISTAKEN THAT CATHOLICS ARE BAD,
30:51 PROTESTANTS ARE GOOD. IT'S NOT THAT WAY AT ALL.
30:54 GOD LOOKS ON THE HEART, BUT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS ABOUT
31:02 EDUCATION, AND SPIRITUAL EDUCATION, BECAUSE IF WE'RE NOT
31:09 STANDING FIRMLY ON THE WORLD OF GOD, WE CAN FALL.
31:13 WE WILL FALL. BUT WE CAN'T LIVE AND SURVIVE ON
31:18 TRADITION. WE -- NOT ALL TRADITION IS BAD,
31:21 I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT. I'M JUST SAYING WE CAN'T LIVE ON
31:24 TRADITION. WE HAVE TO LIVE OUR LIVES BASED
31:27 ON PRINCIPLE FROM THE WORD OF GOD.
31:30 SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS, THOUGH, GOD HAS PEOPLE IN ALL
31:33 CHURCHES, AS WE LEARN WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, IT'S UP TO US TO
31:38 ACCEPT IT. SO THAT'S ONE REASON I LOVE
31:42 WATCHING 3ABN, BECAUSE WHAT NETWORK ARE YOU GOING TO TURN
31:45 THAT YOU AR GOING TO HEAR THIS KIND OF CONVERSATION WHERE
31:48 PEOPLE CAN DO IT AND IT'S CIVIL, AND NOBODY IS NAME CALLING,
31:53 BECAUSE WHAT THEY HAVE SAID THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IS NOTHING YOU
31:56 WILL HEAR US SAY TONIGHT, FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE PROTESTANT, NOT
32:00 CATHOLIC, NOT FOLLOWERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, NOTHING WE WILL
32:04 SAY TONIGHT ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH DID WE MAKE UP.
32:08 WE'RE ONLY GOING TO REPEAT TO YOU WHAT THEY SAY, AND TWHA
32:13 CLAIM ABOUT THEMSELVES. SO THAT'S NOT BAD.
32:14 IN OTHER WORDS, KENNY, JOHN AND ME WE GET BAD AT EACH OTHER.
32:20 >> ONLY ON THE BASKETBALL COURT. [ LAUGHTER ]
32:22 >> YEAH, ON THE BASKETBALL COURT.
32:24 BUT WE GET UPSET AT EACH OTHER, AND JOHN SAYS SOMETHING, AND I
32:28 REPEAT IT. THAT'S NO BIG DEAL, JOHN SAID
32:31 IT, BUT IF I SAY, I KNOW WHAT HE WAS THINKING, THEN I GOT OFF
32:35 TRACK. WE'RE SAYING TONIGHT, WE'RE NOT
32:38 PUTTING DOWN PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET A POINT OUT,
32:41 GETTING SOMEWHERE, THAT WHERE ARE WE TODAY, AND HOW -- BEFORE
32:44 THE PROGRAM IS OVER, WE WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, HOW IS THIS GOING
32:47 TO EFFECT YOU TODAY? PEOPLE SAY I DON'T REALLY CARE
32:50 WHAT I AM. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M PROTESTANT.
32:54 I DON'T KNOW IF I'M CATHOLIC. DOES IT REALLY MATTER?
32:59 HOPEFULLY IT MATTERS. SO HOPEFULLY IF NOTHING ELSE WE
33:04 PRAY THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL AGITATE YOUR HEART AND MIND TO
33:09 REALLY DELVE INTO THE WORD OF GOD AND SAY LORD, WHAT WILL YOU
33:13 HAVE ME DO? I WANT TO BE PREPARED FOR THIS
33:17 TIME OF TROUBLE. BECAUSE WE AR IN A TIME OF
33:23 TROUBLE NOW, THIS WORLD IS COMING TO AN END QUICKLY, SO
33:30 STUDIES LIKE THIS HELP US TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS IT IMPORTANT.
33:34 BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S JUST COME TOGETHER.
33:39 THERE ARE EVANGELICALS MEETING WITH THE POPE AND OTHERS.
33:43 WE HAVE SEEN THAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
33:45 A BUNCH OF POLITICAL LEADERS LOOK TO THE POPE FOR
33:49 ANSWERS -- FOR SPIRITUAL ANSWERS.
33:51 AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? >> I WAS READING SOMETHING THE
33:54 OTHER DAY ABOUT COMMONIST, LET'S ALL JUST COME TOGETHER.
33:59 AND THEY ARE CALLING IT BUILD A BRIDGE.
34:02 >> OKAY. >> BUILD A BRIDGE BETWEEN
34:05 CATHOLICISM, AND PROTESTANTISM. AND HOW CAN YOU BUILD A BRIDGE
34:09 WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO MIX TRUTH AND ERROR TOGETHER?
34:13 YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE STRUCTURE OF THAT
34:16 BRIDGE. IT IS GOING TO GIVE WAY.
34:18 IT IS NOT GOING TO HOLD UNDER THE WEIGHT OF SCRUTINY THAT IS
34:22 GOING TO CO. BECAUSE LIKE SCRIPTURE, YOU CAN
34:24 TEST IT, YOU CAN PUT THE ACID TO IT AND IT IS GOING TO STRONG,
34:30 BUT THEY WILL LOOK AT YOU RIGHT IN THE EYE AND SAY YOU ARE A
34:34 HARLOT. THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL -- ONE OF
34:36 HIS WORDS A HARLOT. SO WE IN TURN SAY, OKAY, THEY
34:41 HAVE WRITTEN IT DOWN. WE HAVE SAID THAT.
34:44 NOW I'M PROTESTING THAT. >> OKAY.
34:47 GOOD. >> IS IT OAY TO DO THAT?
34:49 >> SO PROTESTANT MEANS YOU PROTEST.
34:51 >> I'M PROTESTING THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE TRUTH.
34:54 >> OKAY. >> YOU SEE?
34:55 AND THAT'S WHAT WE DO ON EVERY ANGLE THAT COMES UP.
34:59 AND THE COMMONIST THING, THAT'S HOW THE ENEMY IS GOING TO WORK,
35:05 AND THAT'S HOW THE CHURCH WAS STARTED WAS ON THE PRINCIPLE OF
35:11 COMPROMISING. ELLEN WHITE SAYS RATHER THAN DO
35:14 THAT, WHAT? LET THERE BE WAR.
35:17 LET THERE BE WAR RATHER THAN COMPROMISE THE TRUTH.
35:21 SO IT'S TIME TO STANDING UP A AND PROTEST?
35:26 HOW CAN YOU SIT STILL -- I CAN'T LISTEN TO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF
35:29 SAY, 3ABN. AS SOON AS I HEAR IT -- AT LEAST
35:33 IN MY OPINION WHAT ERROR IS, I KNOW THE ENEMY IS SPEAKING.
35:37 AND IT GOES OFF IMMEDIATELY. AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, BUT
35:43 IT'S STILL ERROR. >> OKAY.
35:45 >> THE BIBLE SAYS TRY THE SPIRIT?
35:50 1 JOHN. THAT WORD TRY IN THE ORIGINAL
35:53 GREEK HAS TO DO WITH A PIECE OF LUMBER.
35:55 >> COME ON NOW. >> AND IT SAYS BEFORE YOU USE
35:58 THAT LUMBER, YOU HAVE TO TEST THAT LUMBER TO SEE IF IT WILL
36:02 HOLD THE WEIGHT THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO CARRY.
36:05 IT MEANS PUT YOUR WAIT ON THAT LUMBER, MAKE SURE IT'S SOLID.
36:09 SO -- SO IF YOUR ETERNITY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE YOUR LIFE
36:13 TO SOMETHING? YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
36:15 CAN CARRY TH WAIT. YOU -- YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A
36:19 TEACHER OF A -- A CONSUMER OF, A PURVEYOR OF ERROR.
36:23 YOU WANT TO BE THE TRUTH. WHEN SOMEBODY TALKS ABOUT DANNY
36:27 SHELTON, YOU WANT THEM TO TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT YOU, AND AS A
36:30 PERSON WHO -- WHO HAS HAD UNTRUTHS TOLD ABOUT YOU, YOU
36:34 KNOW WHAT KIND OF PAIN THAT BRINGS TO YOU.
36:37 WELL, IT DOES THE SAME TO GOD. GOD WANTS THE TRUTH TO BE TOLD
36:42 ABOUT HIM. IF A CHURCH TEACHES THAT GOD
36:47 BURNS PEOPLE FOREVER, THAT HURTS GOD.
36:50 AND I'LL BE DONE REAL QUICK. >> NO, GO AHEAD.
36:53 >> A TOLD A STORY THE OTHER DAY. A FELLA CALLED ME, AND HE WAS
36:58 ANGRY WITH GOD BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW IF HIS WIFE PASSED
37:02 IN THE CHURCH OR OUTSIDE OF THE CHURCH.
37:04 WELL, THE PASTOR TOLD HIM YOUR WIFE IS GOING TO BURN FOREVER.
37:08 SO HE IS DONE WITH GOD. HE IS DONE.
37:11 I'M NOT SERVING A GOD LIKE THAT. HE IS FLIPPING PROCLAIM! AND HE
37:21 SAID IT IS LIKE THE CLOUDS ROLLED AWAY.
37:24 AND WE STAYED ON THE PHONE A GOOD LONG TIME.
37:27 HE REALIZED THAT -- FIRST OF ALL THERE WAS HOPE FOR HIS WIFE.
37:31 AND TWO, HE WASN'T BURNING NOW. SHE WILL NOT BURN FOREVER.
37:36 SO HE IMMEDIATELY WENT TO AN ADVENTIST CHURH.
37:40 HE SAID THEN THEY HIT ME WITH THIS SABBATH THING.
37:44 HE SAID I WAS TO HAPPY IN JESUS SABBATH WAS NO PROBLEM.
37:49 SO IF YOU ARE PREACHING THE STATE OF THE DEAD, YOU ARE
37:53 GIVING A FALSE IMPRESSION OF WHO GOD IS.
37:55 THAT'S NOT GOD AT ALL. >> SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE
37:59 CATHOLIC CHURCH THEN CHANGING THE SABBATH AND SPEAKING BOLDLY
38:03 ABOUT IT, LIKE THEY DID -- >> UH-HUH.
38:06 >> WHERE DID -- AND THAT'S A -- I MEAN, VERY IMPORTANT
38:10 TOPIC ABOUT BURNING FOREVER AND EVER, WHERE DID THAT DOCTRINE
38:14 COME FROM? BECAUSE PROESTANTS, CHURCHES
38:17 WHO CLAIM TO BE PROTESTANTS TEACH IT ALL THE TIME.
38:21 VERY FEW PREACH ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY.
38:23 WE'RE ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS. WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
38:26 >> HIT IT PASTOR? [ LAUGHTER ]
38:30 >> THAT WAS A PAGAN BELIEF. ROMAN CATHOLICISM WAS NOTHING
38:36 MORE THAN BAPTIZED PAGANISM, TO GIVE A RELIGION TO IT, SO IT
38:41 COULD BECOME ATTRACTIVE TO THOSE WHO WANT RELIGION, AND THEY
38:46 BEGAN TOTALLY ON A TRADITIONAL BASIS.
38:49 THEY SAID, OKAY -- THEY CALLED SABBATH KEEPERS JUDEIZERS.
38:58 THEY SAID YOU CAN'T DO THIS OR THAT.
39:02 YOU CAN'T EAT ANYTHING. SO THEY MADE IT SUCH A BURDEN,
39:05 AND THEY CREATED A DAY FOR FAMILIES.
39:09 AND JUST LAST YEAR, IN AMERICA, THIS IS BEING INTRODUCED, AND
39:14 IT'S A CONGRESSIONAL INTRODUCTION THAT WE SHOULD SIT
39:17 DOWN WITH THE TABLE OF PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS ON
39:21 SUNDAY TO FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE IN COMMON AND WHAT WE DON'T HAVE
39:25 IN COMMON. THEY CALL IT THE FAMILY DAY.
39:29 IT WAS THE SAME AS THE DAY IN 1863.
39:34 BUT BY THE YEAR 321 AD THE ONLY ONES THAT DID NOT HAVE TO HONOR
39:39 SUNDAY WERE THOSE WHO DEALT WITH AGRICULTURAL, BUT BY 548 AD
39:48 EVERYBODY HAD TO KEEP IT. AND ROME DOESN'T EVEN DENY THAT.
39:52 SO THIS IDEA OF BURNING IN HELL -- THIS CAME DURING THE
39:59 DA'I -- DARKAGES.
40:02 ROME DEVELOPED IT ON THE ASSIMILATION OF HEDES.
40:17 IF WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO BELIEVE THERE THERE IS AN EVER-BURNING
40:22 HELL, AND YOUR MOTHER IS NOT BAPTIZED, SHE WILL GO TO
40:27 PURGATORY AND SHE WILL BE THERE FOR 30 DAYS UNLESS YOU PAY THE
40:34 BISHOPS OR THE POPES TO PRAY HER OUT OF PURGATORY STRAIGHT INTO
40:40 HEAVEN. BUT IF YOU ARE A BABY, THE BABY
40:45 GOES TO LIMBO FOR 30 DAYS. AND IF YOU PAY THE POPE, THE
40:50 POPE WILL PRAY THAT BABY OUT OF LIMBO.
40:54 AND IF NOT, THE BABY WILL BURN FOREVER AND EVER.
40:58 SO THEY WERE ABLE TO BUILD THESE TEACHINGS IN THE DARK AGES.
41:03 IT WASN'T JUST THE SABBATH, ETERNALLY BURNING HELL.
41:09 THE RAPTURE CAME ALONG LATER ON --
41:12 >> AND NONE OF THAT IS FROM THE BIBLE.
41:16 >> NOT AT ALL. TWO COMMISSIONED JESUITS BY ROME
41:19 TO PUSH TO THE FUTURE THE IDEA THAT ROME REPRESENTED THE
41:24 ANTICHRIST SYSTE. AND THE PROTESTANT REFORMERS
41:27 CLEARLY TARRED AND FEATHERED HER AS THE ANTICHRIST AS THE BIBLE
41:32 DESCRIPTION CLEARLY DEFINED THE CHURCH OF ROME.
41:36 NOW SO MANY CHRISTIANS LEFT BEHIND ARE LOOKING FOR SINGLE
41:43 EUROPEAN ANTICHRIST, SOME GUY THAT IS GOING TO COME OUT OF
41:48 EUROPE SOMEWHERE. BUT "NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" DID AN
41:53 EXPOSE, AND THEY SAID MILLIONS OF CHRISTIANS ADHERE TO THIS
41:57 BELIEF THAT HAS NO SCRIPTAL SUPPORT.
41:59 SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, NOT JUST THE SABBATH.
42:03 >> SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT, ALL OF THESE THINGS WE STARTED
42:07 TO HIT ON NOW, MAYBE YOU BELIEVE THOSE, AND YOU THOUGHT THEY WERE
42:10 THE BIBLE. I'LL NEVER FORGET, KENNY, AFTER
42:13 OUR FATHER PASSED AWAY IN 1974, OUR MOTHER MET EARL.
42:20 AND THEY MARRIED SOMETIME LATER, AND SO HE WAS A DIFFERENT
42:24 DENOMINATION, AND THEN -- WASN'T SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST, SO THEY
42:28 WERE TALKING. AND THEY WOULD TALK RELIGION,
42:31 AND TAKE BIBLE STUDIES, AND HE WAS FINALLY SAYING, YOU KNOW, I
42:36 THINK MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE SABBATH.
42:39 BUT ONE NIGHT HE WAS TALKING TO OUR MOTHER AND SAID, WELL, YOU
42:43 KNOW, WHEN THE RAPTURE COMES, AND MY MOTHER SAID I HATE TO
42:47 STOP YOU ON THAT ONE TOO, BUT THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
42:49 AND HE GOES WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NOT RIGHT?
42:53 ACTUALLY IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE.
42:57 OH, YES, IT IS. SHE SAID CAN YOU GIVE ME A
43:00 SCRIPTURE. HE SAID I'M NOT THAT GOOD AT IT,
43:04 BUT I KNOW MY PASTOR CAN. SHE SAID YOU SAID THAT ABOUT THE
43:11 SABBATH TOO. AND HE SAID HE JUST PREACHED ON
43:14 IT LAST WEEK. I HAVE HEARD IT ALL MY LIFE AND
43:16 I KNOW IT'S IN THE BIBLE. SO SHE SAYS, WELL, CALL YOUR
43:21 PASTOR AND TALK TO HIM. SO HE CALLED THE PASTOR, AND HE
43:24 SAID THIS IS EARL. HE SAID, YEAH.
43:27 HE SAID I'M TALKING TO GOLDIE HERE, AND SHE SAYS THAT THE
43:34 RAPTURE IS NOT EVEN IN THE BIBLE, SO CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME
43:38 SCRIPTURES, AND HE IS LIKE -- MOM COULD HEAR THE OTHER
43:43 END. HE SAID, WELL -- WELL, I
43:46 MEAN -- I'M NOT -- I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHERE THESE
43:50 SCRIPTURES ARE. I'M LIKE YOU, I HAVE HEARD IT
43:54 ALL MY LIFE, BUT HE SAID I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT IT MYSELF.
43:58 HE IS A PASTOR, BUT HE HAS EVEN PREACHED IT, BUT HE SAID I
44:02 PREACHED IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HEARD ALL MY LIFE, AND I
44:05 REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO -- SO THAT'S WHEN -- WHEN HE HUNG UP,
44:10 HE SAID OKAY, THAT'S MY LAST TIME AT THAT CHURCH, BECAUSE TOO
44:14 MANY THINGS ARE NOT BIBLICAL, AND WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT THESE
44:19 DOCTRINES, IF YOU WILL, THESE BELIEFS ARE NOT FROM SCRIPTURE.
44:22 THEY ARE NOT FROM THE BIBLE, BUT THEY ARE ACTUALLY FROM -- FROM
44:26 ROME. >> AMEN.
44:27 >> AND SO MANY THINGS COME TO MIND.
44:30 THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS THAT -- THAT ARE NOT -- THAT ARE
44:33 TAUGHT THAT WE JUST -- WE JUST ACCEPT WITHOUT -- WHEN YOU AND
44:41 SHELLEY WROTE ANTICHRIST AGENDA, HOW MANY PASTORS SAID, YOU KNOW,
44:45 I HAVE BEEN PREACHING THIS STUFF FOR YEARS.
44:48 I HAVE BEEN PARROTING WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD.
44:51 AND I THINK WE NEED TO SAY AGAIN, WE'RE NOT BASHING ANY
44:56 PARTICULAR DE DENAM -- DENOMINATION, BUT THE
45:02 ONLY WAY TO JUDGE OR RATE A CHURCH IS BY ITS TEACHINGS.
45:06 AND IF IT'S NOT TEACHING TRUTH, THEN YOU HAVE TO SEPARATE
45:10 YOURSELF FROM THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT -- IT'S NOT OF THE LORD, AND
45:14 MY MIND IS PLAYING GAMES WITH ME HERE, BECAUSE I HAD ANOTHER -THOUGHT.
45:20 >> WHAT YOU ARE SAYING LIKE THE THREE AN GELS MESSAGE.
45:30 HOW CAN YOU COME OUT OF SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T KNOW YOU
45:33 ARE IN IT? YOU DON'T KNOW UNLESS YOU ARE
45:36 STUDYING IT. SO YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT, WHAT
45:38 ARE YOU COMING OUT OF? YOU ARE COMING OUT OF SPIRITUAL
45:42 CONFUSION. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
45:44 >> SO THAT'S WHAT GOD IS CALLING US TO DO, TO GET YOUR MIND
45:49 AGITATED ENOUGH TO BE THINKING, AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE I
45:54 SHOULD BE STUDIES. BECAUSE THIS IS TAPED, THIS IS
45:57 LIVE, BUT IT'S TAPED, THERE ARE COPIES OF IT.
46:01 IT'S THERE FOR THE WORLD TO HEAR, AND WE HOPE THEY DO.
46:05 BECAUSE WE CAN ASSURE YOU IF YOU CALL YOUR PASTORS AND TALK TO
46:09 THEM ABOUT ANYTHING THESE MEN JUST SAID, THEY CAN'T HAVE THE
46:15 BIBLE WHAT THESE GUYS SAID IT ISN'T TRUE.
46:18 I DON'T CARE WHO YOUR PASTOR IS AND WHAT CHURCH YOU GO TO, THEY
46:23 WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY THAT'S NOT TRUE.
46:26 LET ME SHOW YOU THE RAPTURE IN THE BIBLE.-IT'S NOT THERE.
46:31 LET ME SHOW YOU THE SABBATH. THEY CAN'T DO IT.
46:35 IT'S NOT THERE. I DON'T SAY THAT WITH ARROGANCE,
46:38 BUT I SMILE BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES OVER THE
46:43 YEARS, PEOPLE WILL CALL IN, AND SAY, WELL, I KNO BETTER THAN
46:47 THAT. ONE NIGHT, KENNY, I OFFERED A
46:49 MILLION DOLLARS. >> COME ON.
46:51 >> I SAID IF YOU CALL IN AND SHOW THE CHANGE OF THE SABBATH
46:55 FROM SATURDAY TO SUNDAY IN THE BIBLE, I'LL GIVE YOU A MILLION
46:59 DOLLARS. THE PHONES LIT UP LIKE CRAZY,
47:02 AND I SAID, WAIT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HURRY.
47:06 JUST TAKE YOUR TIME. BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO DOES IT,
47:08 WE'LL GIVE YOU A MILLION DOLLARS.
47:11 IF YOU CAN PROVE THE SABBATH WAS CHANGED, YOU KNOW, SATURDAY TO
47:14 SUNDAY IN THE BIBLE, I'LL GIVE YOU A MILLION DOLLARS.
47:17 >> I'M GOING TO PRAY FOR AN INCREASE OF FAITH.
47:20 I DID THAT ONE TIME, AND ONLY OFFERED ONE THOUSAND.
47:25 >> DID TOO. [ LAUGHTER ]
47:27 >> PEOPLE STARTED CALLING IN AND SO WE GOT PEOPLE LIVE ON THE
47:31 PHONE, AND WE COULD HEAR THEM, AND SHE SAID, WELL, I WANTED TO
47:35 CALL, BECAUSE I WANTED TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST, I DON'T KNOW THE
47:40 EXACT SCRIPTURE, BUT -- AND I SAID YOU CALL YOUR PASTOR, AND
47:46 HE CAN GIVE YOU THE SCRIPTURE. AND SHE SAID HE CAN'T FIND THAT
47:50 IT RIGHT NOW. NO ONE CLAIMED THAT MILLION
47:53 DOLLARS. BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE.
47:55 I'M NOT SAYING THAT WITH ARROGANCE, BUT PROTESTANT MEANS
48:00 TO PROTEST. YOU ARE PROTESTING THE CHURCH OF
48:03 ROME WHO DURING THE DARK AGES PERSECUTED MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
48:07 OF PEOPLE. YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE
48:09 WANTED TO GET AWAY FROM THAT, BUT THEY CAME WITH SUCH POWER
48:13 AND SUCH AUTHORITY, AND DECIDED, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO
48:17 MAKE UP OUR OWN RULES, AND THEY WILL AS CA SAID, TRUMP THE
48:22 BIBLE. AND THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY IS
48:23 GOING TO DO IT. IF YOU DON'T DO IT, THEN YOU ARE
48:27 GOING TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.
48:31 SO NOW -- PROTESTANT MEANS WE ARE PROTESTING THAT THEY ARE NOT-GOING BY THE BIBLE, AND THAT WOE
48:39 ARE WHEN WE ANSWER TO GOD, WE HAVE TO ANSWER TO WHAT WE KNOW
48:42 FROM THE WORD OF GOD, NOT ANY CHURCH, INCLUDING SEVENTH-DAY
48:47 ADVENTIST, BAPTIST, METHODIST, WE ANSWER TO GOD.
48:51 SO PROTESTANT TODAY WHEN WE ASK YOU IN THE BEGINNING OF THE
48:55 PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ARE YOU A PROTESTANT, OR WHAT CHURCH YOU
48:59 GO TO? ARE YOU PROTESTANT, WE'RE GOING
49:01 TO GET YOUR MINDS THINKING BY THE TIME THIS PROGRAM IS OVER.
49:05 IS YOUR CHURCH REALLY PROTESTANT?
49:07 IF THEY BELIEVE SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE WE JUST SAW.
49:10 THE FIRST DAY OF WEEK, I DON'T CARE HOW BIG OF CHURCH IT IS, IT
49:15 DIDN'T COME FROM THE BIBLE, WHEN THESE MEGA PREACHERS PREACH ON
49:20 SUNDAY AND TALK ABOUT SUNDAY WORSHIP, I SAW ON THE NEWS
49:23 ON -- ON SUNDAY MORNING, I TURNED ON THE NEWS, AND ONE OF
49:28 THE NEWS COMMENTATORS SAID DONALD TRUMP IS -- IS
49:33 OBSERVING -- PRESIDENT TRUMP IS OBSERVING THE SABBATH THIS
49:37 MORNING. NOW IT WAS SUNDAY MORNING.
49:39 THE NEWS COMMENTATOR -- DID YOU HEAR THAT?
49:42 >> YEAH. >> HE SAID DONALD TRUMP IS
49:44 KEEPING -- IS -- THE SABBATH THIS MORNING.
49:46 >> YEAH. >> WELL, HE CAN'T KEEP THE
49:51 SABBATH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, BUT NO MATTER HOW
49:53 HARD HE TRIES, HE CAN'T KEEP THE SABBATH ON SUNDAY, BECAUSE IT'S
49:58 ON THE SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK, WHICH IS SATURDAY.
50:02 >> THAT'S THE TRUE. AND THE THING ABOUT THE TRUTH.
50:06 LET ME BROADEN IT. WE'RE NOT PROTESTING ROME.
50:10 WE'RE PROTESTING ERROR. >> THAT'S GOOD.
50:12 >> WHOEVER EMBRACES ERROR, WE HAVE GOT TO PROTEST IT.
50:15 >> AMEN. >> BECAUSE IF JESUS -- SORRY,
50:20 BECAUSE JESUS IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD, HE SAYS HE WHO WALKS
50:24 IN DARKNESS -- YOU CANNOT SAY YOU ARE IN CHRIST AND WALK IN
50:29 DARKNESS. YOU CANNOT HAVE FELLOWSHIP.
50:31 AND JESUS SAYS I HAVE NO GREATER JOY THAN TO HEAR THAT MY
50:36 CHILDREN WALK IN TRUTH. >> YES.
50:38 >> PEOPLE RECEIVED NOT LEAVE OF THE TRUTH THAT THEY MIGHT BE
50:42 SAVED. AND GOD SENDS THEM A STRONG
50:45 ILLUSION THAT IT IS A LIE. GOD DOESN'T SEND THE STRONG
50:51 ILLUSION, BUT THEY SAY I DON'T WANT LIGH, SO WHAT DO THEY HAVE
50:55 ON THE SHELF? DARKNESS?
50:58 WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STRAIGHTEN OUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
51:03 JESUS. YOU MAY LOVE THE LORD MORE THAN
51:07 PEOPLE WHO KEEP THE SABBATH, BUT YOUR LOVE FOR CHRIST MUST
51:12 REQUIRE YOU TO FOLLOW WHAT JESUS HAS SAID, AND NOT THE TRADITIONS
51:16 AND MAXIMS OF MEN. THE WORD OF GOD IS THE ONLY
51:22 FAITH GPS THAT WILL GUIDE YOU TO WHERE ETERNITY IS GOING TO
51:27 EMBRACE YOU. SO NO MATTER THE TEACHING, IF
51:30 IT'S NOT SCRIPTURAL, GET RID OF IT, AND FIND THE TRUTH.
51:36 JESUS WILL DIE FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO WALK IN THE LIGHT.
51:39 IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, AS HE IS IN THE LIGHT, WE'LL ACHIEVE
51:46 FELLOWSHIP TOGETHER. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
51:48 >> YOU KNOW THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT ALL OF THE CRAZINESS IN THE
51:51 WORLD TODAY, IT IS MAKING PEOPLE STOP AND SAY YOU KNOW WHAT, I
51:55 REALLY JUST WANT TO KNOW TRUTH. I SEE PEOPLE -- ALL OF THIS
52:00 CRAZINESS GOING ON, AND THEY ARE OPEN FOR TRUTH.
52:03 AND THAT'S WHY, AGAIN, I BRING IT UP, THE "SPIRITUAL
52:07 VIGILANTES," BECAUSE A VIGILANTE IS SOMEONE WHO TAKES THE LAW
52:11 INTO THEIR OWN HANDS. SOMETIMES THERE'S EVEN POLICE
52:14 WHO TAKES THE LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS, SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING,
52:19 SO THESE SECRET GROUPS GET TOGETHER, AND THEY BECOME JUDGE,
52:24 JUROR, AND EXECUTIONER -- >> YES.
52:26 >> -- OF THESE PEOPLE, AND OCCURRED TO ME IN THE SPIRITUAL
52:31 VIGILANTE IS ORGANIZATIONS FOR SPIRITUAL LEADERS WHO TAKE THE
52:35 LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS, AND TRY TO ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE
52:39 LAWS OF GOD, AND THEN PULL THE WOOL OVER YOUR EYES AND TELL YOU
52:44 THAT THIS IS COMING FROM THE BIBLE.
52:46 >> THIS IS A BOOK, DANNY, THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS.
52:49 THIS IS WHAT -- IT NEEDS TO GO FAR AND WIDE, BECAUSE IT IS
52:54 TOUCHING IN EVEN MORE DEATH -- DEPTH, I THINK THAN WHAT WE
53:00 HAVE TOUCHED ON HERE. PASTOR JOHN GOT MY MIND
53:05 THINKING, PASTOR CA DID THE SAME THING A WHILE AGO.
53:08 AS THEY MENTIONED WITH FORCE, ERROR AND TRADITION OF MEN.
53:12 I CALL ERROR AND TRADITION OF MEN, NOTHING MORE THAN A LEACH
53:18 THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE TRUTH. AIR HAS TO ATTACH ITSELF TO THE
53:25 TRUTH TO SUCK A LITTLE BIT OUT. SO THERE YOU HAVE A COMBINATION
53:30 OF ERROR AND TRUTH TOGETHER. ERROR IS THE LEACH, AN NO ONE
53:35 LIKES LEACHES. >> WOW.
53:37 I JUST HAD A PASTOR CALL ME FROM THE SOUTH THIS WEEK, AND HE
53:41 WANTED TO TALK TO ME. NOT AN ADVENTIST, AND SAID THIS
53:44 BOOK IS AMAZING. IT'S TIMELY, CAN I GET THEM?
53:48 CAN WE PASS THEM OUT? I WANT MY CONGREGATIONS TO PASS
53:52 THEM OUT. I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM TO
53:55 EVERYBODY. >> AMEN.
53:55 >> AMEN. >> AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER
53:59 SUNDAY PASTOR WHO CAME HERE, GOT THE BOOKS, AND SAID I HAVE READ
54:05 IT, AND MY CONGREGATION IS GOING OUT ON SUNDAYS, PASSING THESE
54:08 BOOKS OUT. I MEAN THAT'S AMAZING.
54:11 AGAIN, ALL WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO SET UP TRUTH.
54:14 AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRUTH.
54:17 AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING -- WHEN PEOPLE SAY WHY
54:21 CAN'T WE JUST ALL GET TOGETHER, EVERYBODY -- WE CAN JOIN HANDS
54:25 TOGETHER AND BE ONE FAITH AND DON'T HAVE THESE DIFFERENCES.
54:28 WE CAN'T DO IT UNLESS WE'RE JOINING HANDS WITH TRUTH.
54:31 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AMEN.
54:33 >> LIGHT AND DARK DOESN'T MIX. >> THANK YOU.
54:36 >> I THINK JOHN'S RECITATION OF 1 JOHN WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
54:40 IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT, AS HE IS IN THE LIGHT, AT THAT POINT,
54:45 WE HAVE FELLOWSHIP. AND THE BLOOD OF CHRIST CLEANSES
54:49 US FROM ALL SIN. SO THE THING THAT UNITES US IS
54:53 LIGHT. >> AMEN.
54:54 >> AND IF YOU ARE NOT IN THE LIGHT, THEN WE CANNOT HAVE TRUE
54:59 FELLOWSHIP, BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOT TO SURRENDER SOME LIGHT, IF WE
55:03 ARE GOING TO HAVE FELLOWSHIP IN DARKNESS.
55:06 SOMEONE ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY -- WE WERE TALKING ABOUT
55:09 RIGHT AND WRONG, AND HE SAID DO YOU THINK THE ADVENTIST CHURCH
55:13 IS RIGHT? AND I SAID, YEAH, I DO.
55:15 BECAUSE I HAVE STUDIED THAT. HE SAID DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE
55:19 THAT YOU ARE RIGHT AND EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG?
55:23 PRETTY HEAVY QUESTION. >> INDEED.
55:26 YEAH. >> MY ANSWER TO HIM WAS, DO YOU
55:29 THINK ALL 33,000 CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS CAN BE RIGHT?
55:34 >> OKAY. >> CAN EVERYBODY BE RIGHT?
55:37 HE IS SAYING CAN EVERYBODY BE WRONG?
55:40 I'M SAYING WITH ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT NUANCES CAN EVERYBODY
55:44 BE RIGHT? THEY CAN'T.
55:45 THEY CAN'T. AND IF WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE
55:48 WORD OF GOD, THEY ARE NOT RIGHT. >> HOW MANY WAYS CAN YOU TELL
55:52 THE TRUTH. >> WELL SAID.
55:54 >> AND LISTEN HOW SIMPLE IT IS TO NARROW IT DOWN TO KNOW WHERE
55:58 THE TRUTH IS GOING TO COME FROM. >> OKAY.
56:00 >> I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE STROOUT GOING TO COME FROM.
56:03 I DON'T WANT TO STUDY 33,000 DENOMINATIONS.
56:07 THE LORD HAS GIVEN US THE ACID TEST.
56:10 HERE IS WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE TOE FIND THE TRUTH.
56:15 1 JOHN 2, 3, AND 4. NOW BY THIS WE KNOW THAT WE KNOW
56:21 HIM, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS.
56:26 VERSE 4, HE WHO SAYS I KNOW HIM AND DOES NOT KEEP HIS
56:30 COMMANDMENTS IS A LIAR AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM.
56:34 >> WOW. >> BY THE WAY, ELIMINATE 32,999.
56:42 I'M NOT BEIG FACETIOUS. >> NO.
56:46 >> TO THE LAW AND TO THE TESTIMONY ACCORDING TO THIS, IT
56:50 IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIGHT -- >> NO LIGHT.
56:53 >> -- IN THEM. OLD TESTMENT AND NEW TESTAMENT
57:00 JIVE TOGETHER. >> OKAY.
57:03 I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS FIRST HOUR IS JUST ABOUT WRONG.
57:05 THE SECOND HOUR, NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING QUESTIONS.
57:09 SO YOU MAY WANT TO CALL IN. WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET ALL OF
57:15 THEM, BUT 618-627-4651 OR LIVE@3ABN.TV.
57:20 SO CALL OR EMAIL US YOUR QUESTIONS.
57:23 I'M INTERESTED IN SOME OF THESE OTHER TOPICS.
57:26 NOT ONLY THE SABBATH, BUT WE TALK ABOUT THE BURNING FOREVER
57:30 AND EVER. WE TALK ABOUT THE RAPTURE, THAT
57:34 SO MANY THINGS ARE NOT IN THE BIBLE, THAT THEY ACTUALLY COME
57:38 FROM TRADITION OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO SAY WE HAVE THE POWER
57:42 TO CHANGE GOD'S LAW. WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN JUST A
57:44 MOMENT.


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