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Crying at the Gates

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Participants: Alex Niculaescu & Levi Longoria

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00:03 >> I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE♪
00:09 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE EASING PAIN♪
00:20 ♪ LORD, LET MY WORK HEAL A HEART THAT'S HURT♪
00:31 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE I WANT
00:44 TO SPEND MY LIFE MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE.
01:05 >> HELLO AND WELCOME ONCE AGAIN TO THRAIB LIVE.
01:08 WE ARE HAPPY THAT YOU ARE JOINING US.
01:11 I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL OF
01:14 YOU FOR DEMONSTRATING YOUR LOVE FOR US BY SUPPORTING THIS
01:17 MINISTERS MINISTRY AND YOUR FINANCES.
01:21 WE WANT TO SEND A SHOUTOUT TO OUR BLESSINGS ON THE GO
01:27 EVANGELISTIC TEAM. WE COULDN'T DO WHAT WE DO
01:30 WITHOUT YOU. TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE -- I
01:35 DON'T WANT TO SAY -- IT'S GOING TO BE AN EXCITING NIGHT.
01:40 WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
01:44 SEG THAT I DON'T THINK WE THINK OF OFTEN ENOUGH.-úLET ME READ A SCRIPTURE TO
01:51 YOU. THIS COMES HAVE EPHESIANS,
01:55 VERSE 12. QUESTION KNOW THIS HERE, BUT
01:58 WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT IN OUR HEART.
02:01 PAUL WRITES, FOR WE DO NOT WRESTLE AGAINST FLESH AND
02:05 BLOOD, BUT AGAIN PRINCE PEALTS, AGAINST POWERS,
02:08 AGAINST THE RULERS OF THE DARKNESS OF THIS AGE.
02:14 AGAINST SPIRITUAL HOST OF WICKED PS IN THE HEAVENLY
02:17 PLACES. WE DON'T RECOGNIZE DAY BY DAY
02:20 WE ARE IN SPIRITUAL BATTLE. THIS IS CALLED THE GREAT
02:24 CONTROVERSY. WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT
02:27 TENANT. NOW, I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE
02:29 DISCLAIMER HERE. BECAUSE WE WILL BE SPEAKING
02:34 MOSTLY ABOUT HOW TO PROCEED IN THE BATTLE.
02:39 BE ARMED FOR THE BATTLE. KNOW ABOUT YOUR SPIRITUAL
02:43 ARMOR AND TO KNOW ABOUT PRAYER AND INTERCESSORY PRAYER.
02:50 THE MINISTRY WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON, WE WILL START BY
02:54 TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO.
02:56 THEY HAVE BEEN HERE TO 3ABN BEFORE.
02:58 IT IS A MINISTRY THAT WILL REQUIRE PARENTAL DISCRETION IF
03:03 YOU HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN. BECAUSE THE MINISTRY OF CRYING
03:07 AT THE GATES IS TO RESCUE AND REDEEM PEOPLE, BRING THEM OUT
03:13 OF DARKNESS WHO HAVE BEEN TRAPPED, ENSLAVED, IF YOU
03:18 WILL, IN THE INDUSTRY OF SEX TRAFFICKING.
03:25 CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN ORPHANED, CHILDREN WHO HAVE
03:28 PERHAPS BEEN SOLD BY THEIR PARENTS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T
03:31 AFFORD TO SUPPORT THEM, AND CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN
03:36 KIDNAPPED. IF YOU FEEL YOUR CHILD IS NOT
03:38 OF AN AGE TO LISTEN TO THIS, THEN WE ASK THAT YOU SCOOT
03:42 THEM ON OUT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
03:44 BUT YOU WILL DEFINITELY WANT TO STAY TUNED SO YOU CAN
03:49 LEARN, AS I WILL BE LEARNING FROM THESE GENTLEMEN, ABOUT
03:54 SPIRITUAL WARFARE. FIRST WE HAVE -- I STARTED TO
04:01 SAY NICHOLAS, BUT IT IS ALEX NICULAESCU.
04:03 A GOOD ROMANIAN NAME. >> A GOOD ROMANIAN NAME.
04:08 >> YOU ARE WITH CRYING AT THE GATES MINISTRY.
04:12 THE TITLE WE ARE PUTTING UP IS A LEHMAN IN INTERCESSORY
04:16 PRAYER. >> YEAH.
04:17 >> CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR YOUR STORY.
04:20 THEN WE HAVE LEVI LONGORIA. LEVI, WE ARE GRAD THAT YOU ARE
04:25 HERE WITH US. BOTH OF YOU ARE HAILING FROM
04:27 MICHIGAN NOW. >> NOW.
04:30 >> WE'LL COME BACK AND GET JUST A LITTLE OF YOUR PERSONAL
04:34 HISTORY BEFORE WE LAUNCH INTO THIS WONDERFUL TOPIC OF
04:39 RECOGNIZING THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE, AND KNOWING THAT YOU
04:45 HAVE ARMOR THAT IS MIGHTY TO THE PULLING DOWN OF STRONG
04:50 HOLDS. BEFORE WE BEGIN, WE WANT TO
04:53 INTRODUCE SOMEONE, THAT IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH 3ABN, IT'S
04:59 OUR OWN JILL MARCONI. SHE IS SUCH A GRIFTED BIBLE
05:04 TEACHER. SHE IS ASSISTANT TO OUR
05:08 PRESIDENT AT 3ABN. SHE IS AN INCREDIBLE PIANIST.
05:19 SHE WILL BE PLAYING "HIS EYE IS ON THE SPARROW."
06:38 [♪♪] >> THANK YOU, JILL.
09:45 THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL SONG. IF YOU ARE JUST JOINING US,
09:49 OUR SPECIAL GUESTS ARE ALEX NICULAESCU AND LEVI LONGORIA.
09:53 THEY ARE WITH THE MINISTRY CALLED CRYING AT THE GATES.
09:56 IT IS A MINISTRY OF INTERCESSORY PRAYER AND
10:01 SPIRITUAL WARFARE. ONCE AGAIN, JUST A QUICK
10:04 DISCLAIMER. WE DO URGE PARENTAL DISCRETION
10:08 BECAUSE THIS WILL BE SENSITIVE TOPIC MATERIAL.
10:12 SO, GUYS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE TONIGHT.
10:18 AND WE ARE -- YOU ARE HERE, WHAT, JUST A MONTH OR TWO AGO.
10:24 >> IN MARCH. A FEW MONTHS AGO.
10:28 >> WE GOT TO SEE WHAT THE MINISTRY IS ALL ABOUT.
10:32 BUT BEFORE WE LAUNCH INTO TONIGHT'S TOPIC, I'D LIKE TO
10:35 GET TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PERSONS.
10:39 WILL YOU TELL US, ALEX, SOMETHING OF YOUR GROWING UP.
10:43 I KNOW YOU SPOKE ROMANIAN IN YOUR HOME WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG.
10:46 TELL US A LITTLE OF YOUR LIFE STORY.
10:49 >> ALL RIGHT. WELL, I GREW UP IN A ROMANIAN
10:52 FAMILY. MY PARENTS ARE RUN AWAY FROM
10:55 COMMUNISM IN ROMANIA. THEY WANT ADD DIFFERENT LIFE.
10:58 SO THEY CAME TO THE UNITED STATES.
10:59 I BELIEVE THEY WERE SEEKING ASYLUM HERE AND THE UNITED
11:04 STATES COVERED R OFFERED THEM THAT.
11:06 MY BROTHER AND I WERE BORN HERE, JUST THE TWO OF US.
11:09 WE HAVE ALWAYS GONE BACK TO ROMANIA.
11:11 WITH HAVE TONS OF FAMILY THERE.
11:13 BUT WE GREW UP MOSTLY IN THE STATES.
11:15 >> WAS IT A CHRISTIAN HOME? >> IT WAS.
11:18 IT WAS A CHRISTIAN HOME. I CAN'T SAY THAT I GREW UP-PERSONALLY MYSELF VERY, YOU
11:23 KNOW, CHRISTIAN. I WENT TO CHURCH.
11:26 I DID THINGS. BUT I WANTED TO DO THINGS MY
11:28 OWN WAY. IT WAS ONLY UNTIL MY EARLY
11:32 20s THAT I BEGAN ACTUALLY PURSUING THE LORD.
11:36 A FRIEND AND I DECIDED ON A WHIM TO GO TO ARISE.
11:40 I HAD GOTTEN THERE AND I WAS --
11:42 >> WHEN YOU SAY ON A WHIM, YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BECAUSE YOU
11:46 WERE ON FIRE FOR GOD AND WANTING TO DO MINISTRY.
11:49 BY THE WAY, ARISE IS A -- TELL US ABOUT THAT, WHERE IT'S
11:52 LOCATED AND WHAT IT IS, IN CASE PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
11:57 >> IT'S A BIBLE COLLEGE, FOUR-MONTH BIBLE COLLEGE.
12:00 WHEN WE WERE THERE IT WAS IN MICHIGAN, IN TROY, MICHIGAN.
12:03 NOW IT'S IN OREGON. EUGENE, OREGON.
12:07 AND IT'S BASICALLY A TRAINING CENTER THAT EQUIPS YOU TO DO
12:10 BIBLE STUDY, TO DO EVANGELISM AND MISSION WORK.
12:15 I WENT ON A WHIM. I WASN'T ON FIRE FOR GOD.
12:19 MY FRIEND WAS LOOSELY RELATED TO DAVID'S WIFE.
12:23 LET'S GO AND CHECK IT OUT, WE HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO DO FOR
12:26 THE SUMMER. I SAID, OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD
12:28 AND DO THAT. SO WE WENT.
12:30 I GOT THERE. I WAS LIKE, I'M SURROUNDED BY
12:34 HOLY PEOPLE. EVERYBODY FELT THAT WAY, BY
12:36 THE END. WHEN THEY ARRIVED, THEY FELT
12:39 THEY WERE AT THE BOTTOM AND EVERYBODY WAS MORE HOLY.
12:44 IT'S FUNNY HOW AT TIMES WE PUT ON THIS AIR OF, YOU KNOW,
12:48 HOLINESS. THEN IN REALITY WE ALL REALIZE
12:50 OUR OWN EMPTINESS. WAS KIND OF JUST THAT
12:53 CHALLENGE. YOU KNOW WHAT, MY CHRISTIANITY
12:56 ISN'T REALLY REAL. I HAVE TO COME TO TERMS WITH
12:59 THAT. AM I GOING TO FALL APART?
13:02 WILL I PURSUE HIM WHOLEHEARTEDLY OR LIVE
13:05 BASICALLY A DOUBLE LIFE? I CHOSE THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO
13:07 LIVE A DOUBLE LIFE AND THAT I WOULD FOLLOW CHRIST.
13:11 IT WASN'T EASY. I STILL DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO
13:14 DO. I THINK THROUGH THE PROCESS,
13:16 HE HAS TAUGHT ME QUITE A LOT. >> SO IS IT FAIR TO SAY YOU
13:21 KNEW ABOUT CHRIST BEFORE HORIZON, BUT THAT YOU GOT TO
13:25 KNOW CHRIST ON A PERSONAL AND INTIMATE BASIS AFTER ARRIVING
13:31 THERE? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY.
13:33 BECAUSE, I MEAN, I KNEW ABOUT THE BIBLE.
13:35 I COULD QUOTE CERTAIN THINGS. BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT I KNE
13:38 HIM PERSONALLY. I JUST KNEW THINGS ABOUT HIM,
13:41 OR ABOUT THE BIBLE. BUT I NEVER REALLY RELATED TO
13:45 HIM IN ANY WAY. >> LEVI, WHAT ABOUT YOU?
13:48 >> I GREW UP IN MICHIGAN. I ACTUALLY WAS RAISED IN AN
13:55 ADVENTIST HOME. I HAD THE BEST PARENTS ANYBODY
13:57 COULD ASK FOR. MY DAD ACTUALLY WAS A BIG
14:05 EXAMPLE AS FAR AS PRAYER AND PRAYER MINISTRY IN MY LIFE AS
14:09 WELL. I BECAME -- I GREW UP WITH
14:12 THAT, BUT I REALLY BECAME SERIOUS WHEN I WAS MAYBE
14:17 16-ISH. 16, 17.
14:20 >> PRAISE GOD. >> YEAH.
14:22 THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME REAL TO ME, GOD BECAME PERSONAL.
14:26 HE BECAME MY GOD INSTEAD OF THE GOD OF MY PARENTS, MY BOD
14:31 AND MY MOM.-MY DAD AND MY MOM. I WENT TO ARISE AND AS DID
14:40 ALEX AND THAT'S WHERE WE MET. THAT'S WHEN I WAS 19 WHEN I
14:45 WENT TO ARISE. MY DAD PASSED AWAY IN 2006
14:49 WHEN I WAS 18. THEN THE NEXT YEAR IS WHEN I
14:53 WENT. I WAS ALREADY SERIOUS FROM
14:57 WHEN I WAS 16, 17, THAT'S WHEN I BECAME SERIOUS SPIRITUALLY.
15:04 WHEN MY DAD PASSED, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IT EITHER PUSHES YOU
15:09 ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.-YOU CAN'T STAY SPIRITUALTILY WHERE YOU'RE AT.
15:13 TO ME, IT ACTUALLY PUSHED ME CLOSER TO GOD, THANKFULLY.
15:22 AND I COMMITTED EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN ABOUT
15:29 WHATEVER GOD HAS FOR ME, WHATEVER HE WANTS ME TO DO IS
15:32 WHAT I WANT IN LIFE. THAT'S WHEN HE OPENED THE DOOR
15:42 FOR ME TO GO AND THAT'S WHEN ALEX AND I MET.
15:45 >> ARE BOTH YOU GENTLEMEN SINGLE.
15:49 >> I'M MARRIED. >> CHILDREN?
15:50 >> BABY GIRL, SIX MONTHS OR SO.
15:53 >> LEVI, THAT MEAN YOU -- >> I'M SINGLE.
15:59 CHICKEN. >> SO TELL US HOW CRYING AT
16:06 THE GATES WAS LAUNCHED, AND WHAT YOUR MISSIVE IS.
16:12 >> SO, CRYING AT THE GATES IS ACTUALLY BASED OFF OF
16:17 EXPERIENCE, ALTER EXPERIENCED HAPPENED AFTER ARISE.
16:20 I BEGAN GOING TO MISSION WORK AND JUST TRYING TO GET MYSELF
16:24 INVOLVED SO THAT I COULD SEE THE REALITY OF THE SUFFERING
16:27 THAT OTHER PEOPLE WENT THROUGH.
16:29 SO NOW I WAS A STUBBORN PERSON, IMED GOD TO BREAK MY
16:34 HEART BUT I CAN'T DO IT BY READING AND WATCHING THE NEWS.
16:37 I HAD TO BASICALLY BE THERE. SO I PUT MYSELF IN SITUATION
16:40 WHERE I SAY, LORD, I WANT TO HELP THESE PEOPLE, PLEASE
16:44 BREAK MY HEART TO THEM. GIVE ME A HEART FOR PEOPLE WHO
16:48 ARE SUFFERING. FOR THAT I CAME THROUGH THE
16:50 FIRST EXPERIENCE THAT SHOWED ME ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF
16:56 HUMAN TRAFFICKING AFTER I CAME BACK TO THE STATES IN 2009,
16:59 AFTER A TRIP WHERE I LIVED SIX MONTHS OR SO IN AFRICA, EAST
17:03 AFRICA. I STARRED LOOKING INTO IT -- I
17:06 STARTED LOOKING INTO IT. I WAS INVOLVED WITH
17:08 ORGANIZATIONS WITH THE GOVERNMENT WITH, EVEN WORKING
17:12 WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, COLLABORATING WITH PRIVATE
17:16 INVESTIGATION. >> WEREN'T YOU A CONSULTANT
17:17 FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY?
17:19 >> THE WAY THAT THAT WORKED, THEY STARTED SOMETHING CALLED
17:25 THE BLUE CAMPAIGN. THEY WERE TRYING TO GET AS
17:27 MANY ORGANIZATIONS AS POSSIBLE TO KIND OF HELP THE GOVERNMENT
17:30 IN TERMS OF, LIKE, HOW TO SET UP PROGRAMS THAT MITIGATE
17:34 HUMAN TRAFFICKING. SO ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS
17:37 THAT WAS CALLED WAS OURS, THE ONE I WAS WORKING FOR.
17:40 I WENT AS THE REPRESENTATIVE. IT WAS A GROUP OF ABOUT 20 OR
17:44 30 PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE BOARD TO TIE TO GO THROUGH THE
17:47 PROGRAMS THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAD COME UP WITH AND TO TELL
17:49 THEM WHAT SHE SHOULD DO. BASICALLY ALL OF OUR INPUT WAS
17:54 NOT REALLY NEEDED. IT WAS MORE ALONG THE LINES OF
17:59 WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING AND WE WANT TO SHOW YOU THAT WE ARE
18:02 INCLUDING YOU, BUT IT WASN'T AS INCLUSIVE -- THEY PREMADE
18:07 THE PROGRAM. I SAID, WELL, THAT'S FINE.
18:09 I WAS KIND OF A CONSULTANT, BUT IS DIDN'T MEAN ANYTHING,
18:14 THE PROGRAM HAD ALREADY BEEN PRE-MADE.
18:17 >> FOR ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WITH WHICH YOU
18:19 WERE FAMILIAR, AND HAD SOME DEALINGS, DID ANY OF THEM
18:27 INCLUDE OR RECOGNIZE THE SPIRITUAL WARFARE, HAVE A
18:30 SPIRITUAL COMPONENT TO IT?-OR WERE THESE MORE SECULAR ORGANIZATIONS AT THE TIME?
18:34 >> THERE WAS A LOT OF CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS.
18:37 BUT EVEN THE CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATIONS DIDN'T -- THEY
18:40 UNDERSTOOD THERE WAS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE.
18:44 THEORETICALLY, BUT NOT SO MUCH THERE WAS A WAR OVER THE SOULS
18:47 OF THE PEOPLE THEY WERE TRYING TO RESCUE AND ADMINISTER TO.
18:51 WE ARE FIGHTING AGAINST THE DEVIL.
18:55 ORGANIZED CRIME, EVIL PEOPLE, THEY ARE ON THE DEVIL'S SIDE.
18:59 IT WASN'T HOW SPIRITS MANIPULATE AND INFLUENCE THE
19:02 MINDS. SO IT WAS LITTLE ESPECIALLY
19:05 WHEN IT CAME TO RESCUE, WHEN YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE
19:08 WITH PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES, D.I.D. OR OTHER TYPES OF
19:16 STRESS. >> EXPLAIN D.I.D.
19:18 DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER.
19:20 WHAT HAPPENS, I'LL TRY TO GENERALIZE IT.
19:24 WHEN CERTAIN WOMEN OR CHILDREN ARE BASICALLY TAKEN OR COERCED
19:30 INTO BEING BASICALLY -- INTO PROSTITUTION OR WHATEVER TYPE
19:33 OF SLAVERY. THE WAY THEY DO IT, THEY PUT
19:36 SO MUCH PHYSICAL DURESS UPO THAT PERSON THAT THE PSYCHE
19:40 CAN'T HANDLE IT. THE WAY THAT IT HANDLES IT IS
19:43 BY BASICALLY SPLITTING, SO YOU END UP CREATING MULTIPLE
19:48 PERSONALLALITIES. MOST PEOPLE WILL HAVE TWO BUT
19:52 D.I.D. IS WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE.
19:55 IT'S A MORE COMPLICATED WAY OF HOW THOSE ARE LINKED AND HOW
19:58 THOSE ARE TRIGGERED. CAN YOU TRIGGER DIFFERENT
20:01 YITSZ FROM DIFFERENT TIME IN THE PAST.
20:03 YOU CAN HAVE THE 5-YEAR-OLD VERSION THAT KNOWS EVERYTHING
20:06 FROM WHEN THE PERSON IS FIVE JEERS OLD.
20:11 THE FIVE-YEAR-OLD VERSION AND THE CURRENT VERSION DON'T KNOW
20:13 ANYTHING ABOUT EACH OTHER. IT'S LIKE A COMPLETE DIFFERENT
20:16 PERSON. THE MOST COMMON TYPE IS
20:18 BASICALLY WHERE THEY CREATE AN ALTERNATIVE IDENTITY USED FOR
20:22 THE PURPOSE OF THE SLAVE TRADE.
20:25 MOST PEOPLE OR GUYS OR WHOEVER PURCHASE, THEY ARE UNDER THE
20:29 IMPRESSION THAT THE PERSON THEY ARE BUYING WANTS TO BE
20:31 THERE BECAUSE THEY PUT ON THESE AIRS OF, HEY, YOU KNOW,
20:34 SHE WANTS IT, SHE IS BEING VERY SEXY OR SULTRY OR
20:40 WHATEVER, SHE IS ENTICING ME, SHE IS ENJOYING THIS.
20:44 IN REALITY IT WAS A PERSONALITY CREATED THROUGH
20:46 THE DURESS PLACED ON THEM. THEY WILL SOMETIMES GO BACK TO
20:50 BEING THE ORIGINAL PERSON. IT WILL BE SARAH.
20:55 BUT WHEN THE PITCH OR TRAFFICKER SAYS I DON'T WANT
20:57 TO DEAL WITH SARAH, I WANT TO WORK WITH CANDY.
21:01 HE WILL TRIGGER THE OTHER PERSONALITY.
21:04 CANDY IS THE ONE THAT'S WORKING, SARAH I DON'T WANT TO
21:08 SEE RIGHT NOW. >> I KNOW WE WILL GET TO THIS.
21:12 I AM PROJECTING A LITTLE AHEAD.
21:13 THAT MEANS THAT IF YOU RESCUE SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN INVOLVED
21:19 IN THIS, SOLD INTOTHIS TYPE OF SLAVERY AND HAS BEEN
21:23 TRAFFICKED. IF THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS
21:25 SINCE THEY WERE 6 YEARS OLD AND MAYBE THEY ARE 19 NOW,
21:28 WHEN YOU BRING THEM OUT OF IT, THEY ARE STILL HAVING THESE
21:34 DISASSOCIATIONS, THEY ARE STILL HAVING ALL OF THESE
21:36 ISSUES, IS THAT CORRECT? >> YES.
21:38 >> IT'S NOT LIKE YOU RESCUE THEM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY
21:40 ARE WHOLE AGAIN. >> NO, NO.
21:43 IT'S A LONG PROCESS. THE THING S BEING A MALE, I'M
21:47 NOT INVOLVED IN THEIR RECOVERY PROCESS.
21:49 THEY ALREADY HAVE HUGE TRUST ISSUES WITH MEN.
21:52 AND SO, I TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OVERSEEING THEIR
21:57 RECOVERY. WE HAVE HAD TONS AND TONS OF
22:00 RELAPSE. THE REASON I ASK, WHY IS THE-RELAPSE RATE SO HIGH --
22:07 >> YOU MEAN PEOPLE WHO GO BACK BE INTO THE TRADE.
22:08 >> YES. THE AVERAGE RATE OF RELAPSE IS
22:11 SEVEN TIMES. >> AMAZING.
22:13 >> I THINK OF WHERE JESUS CAST OUT SEVEN DEMONS OUT OF MARY.
22:20 SO IT'S JUST -- YOU WONDER, LIKE, WHAT DO I DO SO THEY
22:24 DON'T GO BACK FOR THIS. WHY DO THEY GO BACK TO THIS.
22:28 A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME. HERE IS WHAT I'LL SAY THIS IS
22:33 THE WAY I RELATE IT TO US PERSONALLY.
22:37 SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY DOES SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN
22:41 OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE.
22:43 EVEN MAYBE TASTED IT A LTTLE BIT.
22:46 GO BACK TO A FILTHY LIFE APPEAR LIFE THAT IS FULL OF
22:49 VIOLENCE, A LIFE THAT IS FULL OF OPPRESSION, A LIFE WHERE
22:53 THEY HAVE NO FREEDOMS, THEY ARE CONTROLLED THE ENTIRE
22:56 TIME. WHY WOULD THEY CHOOSE TO DO
22:58 THAT IF THEY HAVE BEEN GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY.
23:01 WHY DOES SOMEBODY ON THE STREETS AND THE PITCH IS NOT
23:04 AROUND, WHY DON'T THEY JUST LEAVE?
23:06 HERE IS THE THING. IF I SAY I'D LIKE TO HELP
23:10 YOU, I'D LIKE TO RESCUE YOU, COME WITH ME.
23:13 HERE ARE THE TWO THINGS SHE HAS TO COMPARE.
23:15 HE HAS TO COMPARE. >> YOU MENTION HE.
23:18 >> THERE ARE A LOT OF MALES. WE USUALLY -- WE TEND TO FOCUS
23:22 ON FEMALES, BUT THERE ARE TONS OF BOYS AS WELL.
23:28 THE AMOUNT OF BOYS IS ACCURACYING DRAMATICALLY,
23:33 ESPECIALLY YOUNG BOYS UNDER AGE.
23:35 IF I GO UP TO THAT INDIVIDUAL AND TELL THEM, HEY, LISTEN, I
23:40 WANT TO RESCUE YOU. WHAT DO THEY HAVE IN THEIR
23:43 MIND, IN THEIR EXPERIENCE TO BELIEVE ME?
23:46 THERE IS A DESIRE TO ESCAPE. THERE IS A DESIRE TO WANT
23:49 SOMETHING BETTER, BUT THE EXPERIENCE OF THEIR LIFE SAYS
23:52 I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TREATED THIS WAY.
23:54 I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT I'M TRASH, THAT I HAVE NO VALUE.
23:59 I'M TOLD I AM LOVED. A LOT OF PIMPS WILL SAY, I
24:03 LOVE YOU. YOU'RE WORTH EVERYTHING TO ME,
24:06 BUT THEN TREAT THEM AS IF THEY HAVE NO VALUE WHATSOEVER.
24:12 PIMPS WILL USE THAMES LIKE "I'M YOUR FATHER, I'M YOUR
24:16 DAD." THE "WHO'S YOUR DADDY" THING,
24:21 IT'S ORIGINATED WITH HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
24:23 WHEN YOU HAVE THE SONGS, THAT'S ORIGINALLY A TERM PIMPS
24:27 WOULD USE FOR PROSTITUTES. THEY WOULD TRY TO PORTRAY A
24:32 FATHER FIGURE THAT WAS ABSENT IN THAT PERSON'S LIFE.
24:34 THEY ARE TRYING TO FILL THAT ROLE, BUT THEY FILL IT VERY
24:41 CONVOLUTED FATHER FIGURE ROLE THAT IS A MESS FROM WHAT A
24:44 FATHER FIGURE OUGHT TO BE. AT THE SAME TIME THAT PERSON
24:46 IS DEPNDENT ON THEM FOR EVERYTHING, AS IF THEY WERE
24:49 THEIR FATHER. SO HERE I COME AND OFFER
24:51 SOMETHING BETTER, BUT THEY HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT.
24:54 I CAN TELL THEM, HEY, I CAN BE YOUR KNIGHT IN SHINING ARMOR,
24:59 I CAN HELP YOU ESCAPE AND YOU HAVE OPPORTUNITIES AND-FREEDOMS AND DO WHATEVER YOU
25:05 WANT, YOU CAN GET AND EDUCATION AND GET AN APARTMENT
25:08 AND LIVE AN EVERYDAY LIFE. BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT
25:12 THAT'S LIKE. SO BRINGING IT BACK TO MYSELF,
25:16 YOU KNOW, I LIVE IN A CENTRAL WORLD.
25:22 I KNOW ABOUT GOD. GOD HAS COME TO ME AND HE HAS
25:26 OFFERED ME SOMETHING BETTER. HE TELLS ME, HEY, I'LL SAVE
25:28 YOU FROM THE MESS THAT YOU'RE IN.
25:30 I'LL SAVE YOU FROM YOUR SIN. I'LL SAVE YOU FROM THING THAT
25:35 ARE PERSECUTING AND CHASTISING YOUR SOUL.
25:39 I HAVE SOMETHING MUCH BETTER FOR YOU.
25:40 YET ALL OF MY EXPERIENCE TELLS ME MY LIFE HAS ALWAYS BEEN
25:44 TRASH. I'VE ALWAYS MESSED UP.
25:46 PEOPLE HAVE NEVER LIKED ME. I BEGIN MAKING EXCUSES.
25:50 I COME BASICALLY TO THE SAME CROSSROADS THAT SOMEBODY IN
25:54 PROSTITUTION COMES TO. THE PROSTITUTE AND I WILL MAKE
25:58 THE SAME DECISION. WE WILL ALWAYS CHOOSE CAN,
26:03 GENERALLY, THE FILTH AND THE HORROR THAT WE KNOW, THAN THE
26:08 PROMISE OF SOMETHING BETTER THAT WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED.
26:13 WE ARE IN ESSENCE SEVENTH DAY PROSTITUTES.
26:16 I KNOW THAT'S HARSH. I DON'T MEAN THAT TO BE
26:20 CONDESCENDING. WE LOOK AT THEM HARSHLY, BUT
26:23 THE SAME QUESTION, WHY DO WE, KNOWING THAT GOD IS GOOD,
26:27 NEVER FULLY GIVE OUR LIVES TO HIM?
26:31 WHY DO WE GO BACK TO THE HALF CHRISTIANITY.
26:34 WHY DID WE GO BACK TO THE THINGS WE KNOW THAT ARE
26:37 DESTROYING AND RUINING OUR CHRISTIAN LIVES AND OUR SOULS
26:41 AND OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH CHRIST.
26:43 >> ISN'T THE ANSWER, FROM WHAT-YOU JUST SAID, ABOUT THE CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN GROWING
26:47 UP LIKE THIS, IT'S THE SAME FOR THE CHRISTIAN.
26:51 IF WE DON'T KNOW THERE IS MORE.
26:55 IF WE -- IF WE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP UP IN A WORKS-BASED
27:03 CHRISTIAN, INSTEAD OF KNOWING THAT CHRIST IS THE ONE THAT IS
27:07 INTERCEDING ON OUR BEHALF CONSTANTLY AND WILL WORK IN US
27:10 TO DO HIS GOOD PLEASURE. IN WE DON'T KNOW, IT'S HARD TO
27:15 SURRENDER TO TRUE LOVE. IT'S HARD TO SURRENDER.
27:18 THERE IS SOMETHING IN US THAT IS PROTECTIVE.
27:21 SO THE LOVE OF GOD IS JUST NOT UNDERSTOOD.
27:23 DON'T YOU THINK IT'S THE SAME WITH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
27:28 HAVE BEEN TRAFFICKED. >> YES.
27:30 >> I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THIS, BUT THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE SO I
27:35 CAN'T QUITE LET MYSELF GO TO ACCEPT THIS.
27:40 IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
27:42 >> AND I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO THAT.
27:44 LET'S SAY THAT I GO TO THE STREETS AND I LOVER SOMEBODY A
27:48 WAY OUT. THEY DON'T KNOW ME.
27:50 I THINK THAT OFF TIMES IT'S THE FACT THAT WE DON'T KNOW
27:53 GOD THAT WE ARE NOT WILLING TO SURRENDER TO HIM.
27:56 WE HAVE A FALSE IDEA OF WHO GOD IS AND WE HAVE TAKEN HIS
27:59 IDENTITY AND PUT ASPECTS OF SATAN'S IDENTITY AND PUT IT ON
28:05 CHRIST. >> I KNEW JESUS.
28:06 BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THE FATHER. I KNEW NOTHING OF THE SPIRIT.
28:11 I HAD A VERY CONVOLUTED -- I DIDN'T KNOW THAT CHRIST WAS
28:16 EXACTLY LIKE THE FATHER. I HAD NOT BEEN TAUGHT THAT.
28:19 SO I DIDN'T KNOW HIS PURPOSE WHEN HE CAME TO EARTH WAS TO
28:23 REVEAL THE FATHER. HEBREWS 1-3 SAYS HE IS THE
28:28 EXACT IMPRESSION OF THE FATHER.
28:30 EVERYTHING JESUS IS BACK TO THE FATHER WAS AS WELL.
28:34 OR IS AS WELL, I SHOULD SAY. IT IS SOMETHING THAT WHEN YOU
28:40 FEAR -- YOU FEAR THE UNKNOWN. PERFECT LOVE.
28:48 YOU FEAR THE UNKNOWN. IF YOU HAVE BEEN TAUGHT
28:52 SOMETHING, IF GOD HAS BEEN -- HIS CHARACTER HAS BEEN
28:58 MALIGNED AND FOR MANY OF THEM THEY DON'T KNOW WHO GOD IS.
29:03 SAME THING IN THE CHURCH. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T
29:06 KNOW WHO GOD IS. I CAN UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT
29:11 IT IS FOR THEM TO SURRENDER TO A NEW LIFE JUST AS IT IS
29:15 DIFFICULT FOR US TO SURRENDER. PART OF IT IS PRIDE, TOO, AS
29:20 FAR AS CHRISTIANS ARE CONCERNED.
29:22 I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD GO SO FAR.
29:24 WE THINK THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO SAVE OURSELF.
29:27 SO PART OF IT IS PRIDE THAT WE CAN'T LET GO.
29:30 >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
29:31 IT HAS TO BE PRIDE. THAT'S WHAT SATAN TO FALL
29:35 INITIALLY. THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS TO
29:37 REFLECT IN HUMANITY. I HONESTLY COULD SAY THAT THE
29:41 FOUNDATION OF ALL SIN, WHETHER IT BE LUST OR GREED OR WHETHER
29:44 IT BE ANGER, YOU CAN SAY PRIDE IS THE ISSUE.
29:50 >> ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY.
29:52 LET ME INCLUDE -- LET'S INCLUDE LEVI JUST A LITTLE
29:58 BIT. YOU MET AT ARISE, THE TWO OF
30:03 YOU. BUT, WHAT, SIX YEARS WENT BY
30:05 BEFORE YOU HEARD FROM ALEX? OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE SKY YOU
30:09 GET A CALL FROM ALEX. YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO HIM IN
30:12 SIX YEARS. WHAT DOES HE SAY TO YOU?
30:15 >> BASICALLY ALEX GOT IN TOUCH WITH ME IN 2013.
30:22 HE SAID, HEY, I'M IN BRAZIL, I'VE BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF
30:26 MONTHS. I WONDERED IF YOU WANTED TO
30:28 COME DOWN AND DO A PROJECT. I DIDN'T DREAM, IT'S BEEN SIX
30:46 YEARS. >> YOU WEREN'T BOSOM BUDDIES.
30:49 IT'S NOT LIKE WE DIDN'T GET ALONG, WE HAD DIFFERENT
30:53 FRIENDS AND WHAT NOT. I SAID WHAT IS THIS PROJECT
30:57 ABOUT? WHAT ARE WE DOING?
30:59 HE SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THE 12 CITIES
31:05 THAT HOSTED THE WORLD CUP GAMES IN 2014, WHICH IS
31:10 SOCCER, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW.
31:13 HE SAID WE'LL BE GOING THROUGH THOSE CITIES AND PRAYING
31:17 AROUND THE STADIUMS, PRAYING FOR THE CITIES.
31:20 PRAYING AGAINST THE ISSUES THAT WE'LL BE GOING ON THERE,
31:24 ESPECIALLY DURING THE GAMES, OF TRAFFICKING, CHILDREN THAT
31:30 WOULD BE GOING MISSING AND THAT KIND OF THING DURING
31:33 THOSE TIMES. I SAID, ARE YOU WITH SOME KIND
31:38 OF ORGANIZATION? HE SAYS, NO, IT'S JUST ME.
31:44 I SAID DO YOU HAVE SPONSORS, DO YOU KNOW PEOPLE?
31:47 >> IT'S JUST ME. DO YOU KNOW THE LANGUAGE?
31:52 NOT REALLY. DO YOU HAVE MONEY?
31:56 NO. I SAID LET ME PRAY ABOUT IT.
31:59 HE SAID GO AHEAD, WITHOUT MONEY, WITHOUT SPONSORS,
32:04 WITHOUT ANYTHING. THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAD IN
32:08 BRAZIL, WHAT WE WERE GETTING TO, SPEAKING ABOUT A READING
32:15 THAT WE'LL HAVE TODAY IS THE MINISTRY OF PRAYER,
32:19 INTERCESSION, INTERCESSORY PRAYER MINISTRY.
32:23 I KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT BEFORE THAT.
32:25 GOD HAD ALREADY BEGUN TO TEACH ME AND IMPRESS ME OF THAT, THE
32:32 IMPORTANCE OF PRAYER AND PRAYER MINISTRY.
32:34 BUT THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAD IN BRAZIL WAS -- IT WAS
32:39 DIFFERENT. WAS DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING I
32:41 HAD SEEN GOD DO BEFORE.-BASICALLY HE SHOWED ME AND ALEX BOTH THROUGH THAT
32:48 EXPERIENCE THAT THIS IS THE WAY THAT YOU DO MY WORK.
32:52 WHEN YOU PUT PRAYER AT THE TIP OF THE SPEAR, YOU MIGHT SAY,
32:58 THAT IS THE WAY THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.
33:01 BECAUSE WHEN WE PUT PRAYER FIRST, WHEN THATS WA THE
33:05 MINISTRY, THAT WAS THE CENTER OF IT.
33:06 THERE WERE OTHER THINGS WE DID, OF COURSE, AS A PART OF
33:10 ALL OF THAT. BUT WHEN THAT WAS CENTRAL AND,
33:14 REALLY, THE BASE, THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT WE WERE
33:16 DOING, WE SAW GOD WORK ON A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL DURING THAT
33:22 FOUR MONTHS IN BRAZIL. THAT'S WHAT REALLY GOT, I
33:25 THINK, BOTH OF OUR ATTENTION TO SAY WHEN WE GOT BACK TO THE
33:29 STATES, WE NEED TO DO THIS. WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE PRAYING
33:33 FOR THE CITIES AND GOING OUT-IN THE COMMUNITIES AND WORKING, NOT JUST IN PRAYER
33:38 MINISTRY, BUT ANY MINISTRY SHOULD FUNCTION BASED ON
33:42 PRAYER AS A FOUNDATION. >> I THINK SO MANY TIMES WHAT
33:48 PEOPLE DO -- AND I'M NOT POINTING A FINGER AT ANYBODY
33:51 ELSE BECAUSE I'M SURE I'VE DONE THE SAME.
33:53 WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO PRAY AND ASK GOD TO BLESS OUR PLANS,
34:01 BEING STILL BEFORE HIM AND REALLY WAITING TO -- I DON'T
34:05 MEAN BEING STILL -- YOU MENTIONED IN THE GREEN ROOM,
34:09 YOU HAVE TO BE IN MOTION FOR GOD TO DIRECT YOU.
34:12 WHICH IS TRUE. YOU CAN'T JUST SIT BACK AND DO
34:15 NOTHING. BUT WE DO NEED TO SPEND A
34:18 SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF TIME IN PRAYER DAILY, CONTINUALLY, TO
34:23 KNOW WHAT GOD'S WILL IS AND LISTEN TO THE LEADING OF THE
34:28 HOLY SPIRIT. >> THAT'S EXACTLY THE WAY THAT
34:31 IT WAS. THE EXPERIENCE IN BRAZIL, WHAT
34:34 BASICALLY HAPPENED, WE WERE THERE TO PRAY, BO GO THROUGH
34:39 THE CITIES AND GET THE CHURCHES TO PRAY.
34:42 EVERYWHERE THAT WE WET LITERALLY WE WERE RUPPING TO
34:46 KEEP UP WITH WHAT GOD WAS DOINGEN EVERYWHERE WE WENT HE
34:49 HAD BEEN THERE AND PREPARE THE WAY AND ALL THE DOMINOES WERE
34:54 IN PLACE. WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL.
34:56 >> YOU REMIND ME OF A SCRIPTURE IN ISAIAH 59, VERSUS
35:02 16 AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT GOD LOOKED DOWN AND HE WONDERED
35:09 THAT THRE WAS NO INTERSAYSER. I THINK WHAT HE WAS WONDERING
35:15 IS, NUMBER ONE, DON'T PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT I HAVE THE POWER
35:19 TO CHANGE THE SITUATION. NUMBER TWO, DON'T THEY LOVE,
35:23 DON'T THEY HAVE ENOUGH LOVE IN THEIR HEART TO WANT THE
35:27 SITUATION TO BE CHANGED FOR THE PEOPLE.
35:28 GOD DID THAT WITH YOU. HE BROKE YOUR HEART.
35:35 HE GAVE YOU THAT CONNECTION IN AN INTIMATE WAY WHERE YOU HAD
35:39 THE COMPASSION TO REACH OUT TO THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.
35:43 HE ALSO GAVE YOU -- I'M JUST AMAZED BECAUSE THE VISION WAS
35:48 GIVEN TO ALEX. FOR YOU TO GET A PHONE CALL
35:54 AND TO NOT KNOW HOW YOU WERE GETTING THERE, YOU HAD SEEN
36:00 WHAT YOU HAD GONE THROUGH AND THE EXPERIENCE WILL CHANGE THE
36:03 REST OF YOUR LIFE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEEN HOW GOD MOVES IN
36:06 RESPONSE TO PRAYER. NOW, WHAT WE WANT TO DO ---FIRST, I DO WANT TO MAKE THIS
36:14 POINT. WHEN WE THINK OF CHILD
36:17 TRAFFICKING. WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO THINK
36:19 IT'S HAPPENING IN NEPAL OR AFRICA OR MAYBE DOWN IN SOME-OF THE LATIN COUNTRIES.
36:27 POOR, THIRD-WORLD COUNTRIES. WE DON'T THINK ABOUT CHILD
36:30 TRAFFICKING HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
36:34 AND IT IS, IS IT NOT. >> OH, YEAH.
36:38 I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT THE UNITED STATES IS
36:41 PROBABLY -- UNITED STATES AND EUROPE, THE DEVELOPED
36:45 COUNTRIES ARE PROBABLY WORSE THAN THE THIRD WORLD
36:48 COUNTRIES. >> THAT JUST BLOWS ME AWAY.
36:50 WE DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT THAT. >> WHY WOULD YOU?
36:53 IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES, IT'S EASY.
36:55 THAT'S WHERE EVERYBODY GOES TO DO THE MISSION WORK.
36:58 IF WE LOOK AT THE AMERICA AND THE STANDARDS WE HAVE NOW
37:01 COMPARED TO AMERICA USED TO BE THE PLACE WHERE THE GREATEST
37:04 MISSIONARIES CAME FROM. SOON IT WILL BE THE PLACE
37:07 WHERE THE MISSIONARIES GO TO CONVERT.
37:10 AMERICA IS GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
37:14 CHRISTIANITY IS GROWING FASTER IN CHINA, 300 MILLION
37:17 CHRISTIANS NOW JUST IN CHINA. THEY ARE ACCEPTING THE GOSPEL
37:21 AND MAKING CHANGES. AMERICA IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE
37:25 COUNTRY THAT SETS THE STANDARDS FOR WHAT EVERYBODY
37:28 ELSE FOLLOWS BUT WE ARE GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
37:31 THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WHEN YOU GO TO A PLACE LIKE A SLUM
37:34 OR A VERY POOR PLACE, YOU CAN SEE IT HAPPENING BECAUSE THERE
37:38 IS NOT MUCH TO COVER IT UP. HERE WE HAVE SO MANY THINGS
37:42 THAT CAN COVER IT UP. THINGS THAT WOULD KEEP OUR
37:45 EYES FROM SEEING THE REALITY. WE HAVE MEDIA TO FOCUSES ON
37:50 OTHER THINGS. WE HAVE DISTRACTIONS.
37:51 WE ARE SO BUSY CONTINUOUSLY THAT EVEN IF PEOPLE DID COVER
37:56 IT, WE WOULD STILL BE DOING OTHER THINGS TO NOTICE IT.
38:02 EVEN IF IT WAS REPORTED. WE CONSUMAL ALL OF OUR
38:08 INFORMATION ON Facebook, THIS FOR FIVE SECONDS AND THAT
38:11 FOR FIVE SECONDS. THERE IS FEW THINGS WE STOP
38:16 AND LOOK AT. >> WE ARE DEVELOPING THE-ATTENTION SPAN OF A HUMMING
38:21 BIRD. WHEN YOU SAY IT CAN BE GOING
38:24 ON AT AN EVENT BECAUSE CHILD TRAFFICKERS WILL GO TO A LARGE
38:31 EVENT. STAY WAS A SUPER BOWL EVENT
38:33 WHERE THERE IS A LARGE CROWD. NOT THAT THE EVENTS ARE
38:37 SPONSORING IT. BUT THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO
38:40 GO WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF COVER.
38:42 AND IT'S GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES, SO TO SPEAK.
38:48 >> YES. IT'S MORE THAN JUST THAT.
38:50 IT'S CHANGING FORMS. THERE USED TO BE A DAY WHERE
38:55 PEOPLE WOULD -- SOMEBODY WHO HAS MORE POWER, MORE INFLUENCE
38:58 WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE THAT ARE WEAKER.
39:00 WE ARE GETTING IN A DAY AND AGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE STARTING
39:04 TO TRAFFIC THEMSELVES. SOME OF THE CASES WE'VE DEALT
39:06 WITH, YOU GO TO A SCHOOL AND YOU FIND A FATHER IN THE
39:10 PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE WONDERING WHAT HE'S JUST HEARD WHEN THE
39:13 PRINCIPAL HAS TO TELL HIM THAT-HIS 12-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WAS FOUND DURING LUNCHTIME IN THE
39:19 BATHROOM WITH A LINE OF 10 BOYS AND CHARGING MONEY.
39:21 THERE IS NO TRAFFICKER INVOLVED, NO PIMP INVOLVED.
39:27 WHERE DID THEY GET THESE IDEAS FROM?-SHE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE
39:32 IDEAS SOMEWHERE TO THINK THAT IS NORMAL BEHAVIOR.
39:34 THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN 20 YEARS AGO.
39:36 THIS DAY AND AGE, IT IS. YOU HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE
39:39 NO INFLUENCE OF A TRAFFICKER WHATSOEVER SENDING MESSAGES TO-EACH OTHER, SEXUAL MESSAGES TO
39:44 EACH OTHER, TAKING. HOW MANY GIRLS CAN YOU GET TO
39:48 DO CERTAIN THINGS FOR YOU. HOW MANY BOYS HAVE, THEY LINE
39:54 THEM UP AND HEY ARE CHARGING MONEY.
39:56 WHERE DID WE LEARN THIS FROM? THE PARENTS DIDN'T KNOW
39:59 ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THERE IS THE INFLUENCE OF
40:01 MEDIA AND VERY SUBTLE MESSAGES.
40:03 IF YOU LISTEN TO MODERN MUSIC, HALF OF THE MUSIC USES
40:07 TERMINOLOGY THAT ONLY A HUMAN-TRAFFICKER WOULD KNOW. DY A TALK AT M.I.T. A FEW
40:12 YEARS AGO. I SAID THAT AND WE WERE LIKE,
40:15 NO, THAT'S NOT TRE. I SAID I DON'T LISTEN TO THE
40:18 RADIO. PICK ANY SONG, PICK A FAMOUS
40:21 SONG GOING ON RIGHT NOW. THEY PICKED A SONG AND I
40:24 PICKED OUT 15 TERMS THAT ONLY A HUMAN TRAFFICKER WOULD
40:28 RECOGNIZE. THEY THINK IT'S A COOL BEAT,
40:31 HAS WORDS THAT DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.
40:33 THEY ARE SING BEING PROSTITUTION.
40:36 THEY ARE SINGING A PIMPING AND ALL OF THESE THINGS, TAKING
40:40 ADVANTAGE, USING EACH OTHER. NON-OF THEM HAVE REAL MESSAGES
40:44 OF LOVE. IT'S JUST A VERY CONVOLUTED
40:48 WAY THAT SOCIETY THINGS RELATIONSHIPS ARE NORMAL THESE
40:51 DAYS. USE SOMEBODY AND GO ON WITH
40:53 IT. >> ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU ARE
40:56 SAYING IS THAT WE KNOW THAT SATAN ENSLAVES.
41:00 I SAY THAT HE OFFERS -- WHEN HE OFFERS A SIN, IT'S NOT IN A
41:04 BROWN PAPER BAG. BUT IT'S GOT THE SHINY FOIL
41:08 PAPER AND A SATIN BOW. IT'S SOMETHING MORE THAN
41:13 GIFT-WRAPPED GARBAGE. BUT CHILDREN PARTICULARLY ARE
41:18 SUSCEPTIBLE TO THE FLUS OF -- INFLUENCES OF MEDIA AND HE IS
41:24 ENVAIVING THEM AT A YOUNG AGE. PRAISE GOD SATAN MAY ENSLAVE,
41:30 BUT JESUS CHRIST IS HERE TO SET -- SET AND SET THE SLAVES
41:38 FREE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
41:39 >> LET'S MOVE INTO OUR TOPIC. WE ARE DESPERATELY NEEDING TO.
41:44 YOU WANTED TO TAL TO US ABOUT A CHART THAT YOU HAVE.
41:49 THIS IS BASICALLY SHOWING THE SPIRITUAL BATTLE IN THE GREAT
41:53 CONTROVERSY. WHY DON'T YOU WALK US THROUGH
41:55 THAT, ALEX. >> I DREW A CHART ON THE GREAT
41:58 CONTROVERSY. THE REASON THAT I DID IT IS
42:01 BECAUSE WE COMPLICATE RELIGION FAR TOO MUCH.
42:04 I READ JAMES 1:27 WHERE HE GIVES A BASIC DESCRIPTION OF
42:08 WHAT TRUE RELIGION IS BEFORE GOD AND THE FATHER IS THE
42:11 VISIT THE WIDOWS AND KEEP HIMSELF UNSPOTTED FROM THE
42:18 WORLD. WE HAVE TAKEN RELIGION AND
42:21 MADE IT SO BROAD AND WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT.
42:25 IT'S NOT BROAD, IT'S DEEP. HAS PRINCIPLES BUT IT HAS MORE
42:30 DEPTH TO IT. HE WANTS TO TAKE US DEEPER.
42:35 I CREATED THIS CHART BECAUSE THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE
42:38 INVOLVED IN? THE GREAT CONTROVERSY.
42:40 WHO IS INVOLVED? WE HAVE SATAN ON ONE SIDE.
42:43 HE IS A SPIRITUAL BEING. THEN WE HAVE GOD ON THE OTHER
42:47 SIDE. HE IS A SPIRITUAL BEING.
42:49 WHO IS IN THE MIDDLE? ANGELS AND MEN ARE CAUGHT
42:53 BETWEEN THIS CONTROVERSY. SATAN BROUGHT AN ACCUSATION
42:55 AGAINST GOD. GOD IS TIEING TO DEFEND
42:57 HIMSELF THAT THE ACCUSATIONS ARE FALSE AND THAT SATAN IS
43:01 THE WON WHO REALLY SHOULD BE ACCUSED TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
43:05 SO WE HAVE ANGELS AND MAN BETWEEN THIS WAR.
43:12 ONE THIRD OF ANGELS HAVE GONE WITH SATE UNAND TWO-THIRDS ARE
43:18 IN HEAVEN. HERE ON ONE SIDE WE HAVE SATAN
43:20 AND WE HAVE HIS CHARACTERISTICS.
43:22 WHAT DOES THE BIBLE TELL US THAT SATAN IS.
43:25 ACCEPT A DISEEFER, HE IS A DESTROYER, HE IS A TRAFFICKER.
43:29 EZEKEIAL 28. HE IS A SLAVEMASTER, HATEFUL,
43:34 PRIDEFUL. IF I WERE TO GIVE HIM A ONE
43:37 WORD WITH DESCRIPTION IT WOULD BE EXPLOITER.
43:39 THE REASON WHY IS HE DESTROYS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
43:42 HE DECEIVES TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
43:45 ULTIMATELY EVERY SINGLE THING THAT HE DOES, HE DOES IT TO
43:48 PROFIT FROM OR, IN ESSENCE, TO HURT CHRIST.
43:52 HE IS EXPLOITING ALL OF HIS OWN CHARACTERISTICS.
43:58 GOD'S KITCHXES ARE THE OPPOSITE.
44:00 SATESON A DESTROYER, GOD IS A RESTORER.
44:04 WE HAVE ALL OF THESE CHARACTERISTICS THAT GOD HAS,
44:07 THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT SATAN IS.
44:10 >> AMEN. >> IF I GIVE A ONE WORD
44:12 DESCRIPTION OF GOD, HE IS AN INTERSAYSER.
44:16 HE IS A RESTORER, REDEEMER, HE IS LOVE.
44:18 BUT HE DOES THAT STEPPING BETWEEN US AND SATAN.
44:22 >> EXPLAIN THAT. >> THE MOST BASIC DEFINITION
44:32 OF INTERCESSOR IS ONE WHO STAND IN THE GAP.
44:34 ONE WHO STANDS BETWEEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THE CROSS, WE SEE
44:38 SALVATION, WE SEE REDEMPTION, BACKUP WE SEE CHRIST TAKING
44:41 THE BLOW UPON HIMSELF. SATE.
44:45 HAS BROUGHT AN ACCUSATION AND CHRIST STANDS BETWEEN US AND
44:49 BETWEEN SATAN AND HE TAKES THE-FULL BRUNT OF THE BLOW, HE INTERSEEDS ON OUR BEHALF.
45:01 >> HE IS OUR INTERCESSOR. >> HE IS ENTER SEEDING BEFORE
45:06 THE THRONE OF THE FATHER, ABSOLUTELY.
45:10 >> IF YOU LOOK AT THE OLD TESTAMENT AND ALL THE TIMES HE
45:13 IS SAYING THERE IS NO JUDGMENT.
45:15 NOBODY IS JUDGING THE WIDOWS AND NO ONE IS JUDGING THE
45:20 FATHERLESS. HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN CRYING OUT
45:22 WHAT HIS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CALLED TO DO IS TO STAND
45:25 BETWEEN THE BLOW OF THE SAFE-MASTER AND THOSE THAT ARE BEING OPPRESSED.
45:33 THAT HAS BEEN HIS MAIN CHARACTERISTIC.
45:35 HE STANDS BETWEEN US AND HE WHO WOULD DESTROY US.
45:42 THE THINGS ARE HERE THAT WE HAVE ON THE CHART ARE ABOVE
45:46 SATAN, WE HAVE THREE THINGS THAT I PUT.
45:48 I PUT VULNERABLE, WEAK, AND FEARFUL.
45:51 WE ARE BORN INTO THIS WORLD OF SIN WITH THESE THREE
45:55 CHARACTERISTICS. WE ARE VULNERABLE, WE ARE
45:58 WEAK, AND WE ARE FEARFUL. WE ARE DOUBTFUL.
46:01 SAINT, WHAT HE DOES, HE EXPLOITS THOSE THREE
46:04 VULNERABILITIES SO HE CAN TAKE US TO BECOMING A SLAVE.
46:07 WHICH IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DESCRIPTIONS.
46:10 ONCE WE ARE HIS SLAVE, ONC HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO EXPLOIT OUR
46:14 VULNERABILITIES, OUR WEAKNESSES, OUR FEARS AND
46:17 DOUBTS, WE THEN BEGIN TO REPLICATE HIS CHARACTERISTICS
46:21 THAT'S THE ARROW UP. CHRIST, ON THE OTHER SIDE HAS
46:25 THREE ANSWERS TO OUR THREE VULNERABILITIES.
46:27 YOU WOULD THINK VULNERABLE, WEAK, WE'LL BECOME STRONG AND
46:32 POWERFUL. FEARFUL, OH, WE'LL BECOME
46:35 COURAGEOUS. THAT'S NOT THE RELITY.
46:37 WHAT IT IS FOR VULNERABILITY, WE BECOME COVERED.
46:40 WE BECOME COVERED IN CHRIST'S-úRIGHTEOUSNESS. THAT'S THE ONLY THING TO KEEP-US FROM BEING VULNERABLE, THE
46:47 BREASTPLATE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. FOR THE WEAKNESS, WE BECOME
46:51 STRONG IN CHRIST VICTORY. HE HAS WON THE BATTLE AND WE
46:55 CAN CLAIM IT THAT WE ARE CRUCIFIED WITH HIM SO WE HAVE
47:03 THE THAT HE HAS. >> FEARFUL AND DOUBT, WE NOW
47:06 HAVE TRUST IN GOD'S LOVE. WE LOVE GOD BECAUSE HE FIRST
47:09 LOVED US. WE SEE WHAT HE IS WILLING TO
47:12 DO FOR US AND WE CAN HAVE TRUST IN HIS PROMISES.
47:15 SO NOW ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WERE AGAINST US, GOD HAS
47:19 GIVEN US A SOLUTION FOR THEM, SO WE CAN BEGIN HIS SONS AND
47:23 HIS DAUGHTERS. >> AMEN.
47:26 >> BY BEING COVERED IN CHRIST RIGHTEOUSNESS, BY TRUSTING IN
47:28 HIS PROMISES, BY HAVING VICTORY OVER SIN IN CHRIST
47:33 STRENGTH, WE ARE TRANSFORMED INTO HIS SONS AND DAUGHTERS.
47:35 WE BEGIN TO REPLICATE ALL THE CHARACTERISTICS THAT DESCRIBE
47:39 GOD. >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.
47:41 >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE IS THAT GOD
47:46 WANTS TO SAVE THE SLAVE. WE HAVE ALL ENTERED IN THIS
47:50 WORLD WITH WEAKNESSES THAT SATAN EXPLOITS TO MAKE US
47:54 SLAVES. SINCE THE BEGINNING HE HAS
47:56 WANTED TO ENSLAVE US. GOD ANSWERS FOR THAT QUESTION
48:01 IS BASICALLY ADOPTION. GOD WANTS TO ADOPT US.
48:05 THE CROSS IS LEGAL RIGHTS OVER US.
48:08 IT'S BASICALLY SAYING I'VE SIGN THE ADOPTION PAPERS IN
48:13 BLOOD, OUR MINE. I HAVE OPENED THAT DOOR TO THE
48:17 PRISON. I HAVE TAKEN OFF THE SHACKLES,
48:20 NOW WALK AWAY. >> AMEN.
48:23 >> WE HAVE A FEW OTHER THINGS IN HERE.
48:25 WE HAVE FALSE RELIGION UNDER SLAVE.
48:32 BEFOREHAND, I FOUGHT KARNLLY. EVEN THOUGH I THOUGHT I WAS A
48:37 CHRISTIAN. >> EXPLAIN CARNALLY.
48:41 WE HAVE PEOPLE WATCHING THAT SOME TERMINOLOGY, WE SPEAK IN
48:47 CHRISTIAN-ESE AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE LIKE "WHAT ARE THEY
48:51 TALKING ABOUT?" WHEN YOU SAY WE FIGHT
48:55 CARNALLY. >> WE FIGHT AFTER THE FLESH,
48:57 AFTER OUR OWN DESIRES. THE WAY THAT I PUT IT, WE ARE
49:02 MINISTERING WITHOUT THE POWER OF GOD.
49:04 DOING THINGS IN OUR OWN GLENTH THE CARNAL IS THE FLESH
49:08 WITHOUT THE POWER OF GOD. >> WITHOUT THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
49:11 YOU HAVE THE FLESH AND YOU HAVE THE SPIRIT.-FIGHTING CARNALLY, WE ARE
49:15 FIGHTING IN OUR OWN STRENGTH, USING OUR OWN INTELLIGENCE AND
49:21 MUCH IN CHRISTIANITY WE FIGHT RATHER CARNALLY.
49:25 WE SHOULDN'T, BUT WE FIGHT MORE LIKE SLAVES THAN SONS AND-DAUGHTERS.
49:30 >> THAT'S GOOD. >> I WANTED TO DISTINGUISH
49:33 BETWEEN FALSE RELIGION AND TRUE RELIGION.
49:35 TRUE RELIGION IS FIGHTING SPIRITUALLY.
49:37 FIGHTING WITH THE POWER OF GOD.
49:39 THAT IS WHY EVEN LEVI EMPHASIZED THAT PRAYING WAS SO
49:43 IMPORTANT BEFORE WE GO ANYWHERE.
49:46 >> AMEN. >> GOD DOES THE WORK.
49:47 WE KIND OF JUST SHOW UP TO IT. YES, WE HAVE TALENTS.
49:50 YES, WE HAVE ABILITIES. BUT WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT-GOD HAS GIVEN US THOUGH.
49:56 WITHOUT GOD'S PRESENCE AND WITHOUT HIS POWER GOING
50:00 BEFOREHAND, THE SONGS THAT WE SING ARE EMPTY AND IT'S
50:03 EFFORTS, THERE IS NO POWER IN THEM.
50:05 BECAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE PEOPLE'S MINDS.
50:07 ONLY THE SPIRIT OF GOD CAN CHANGE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
50:09 >> THAT'S RIGHT. AMEN.
50:11 SO NOW EXPLAIN THIS CROSS IN THE MIDDLE.
50:14 THAT'S FASCINATING. >> ONE CROSS IS THE CROSS OF
50:20 INTERCESSION BECAUSE IT'S PLACED BETWEEN MAN AND SATAN.
50:23 WE TALKED ABOUT HOW CHRIST INTERCEDES WHEN HE STEPS
50:27 BETWEEN SATE. 'S ACCUSATIONS AND US.
50:30 THE OTHER ACROSS WHEN WE HAVE AN INTERCESSOR BETWEEN US AND
50:35 GOD. HE IS PLAYING TWO ROLES OF
50:37 ENTER SESSION. HE IS PLAYING THE ROLE OF
50:41 INTERCESSION BETWEEN SATAN AND US AND US AND GOD.
50:43 THERE IS A SLIGHT ARROW ON THE CROSS POINTING TOWARDS GOD
50:48 BECAUSE BOTH OF INTERCESSION ARE LEADING US CLOSER TO THE
50:53 FATHER. HERE WE HAVE THE WALKING
50:55 COMMITMENT. MOST OF US, WHEN WE ARE
50:57 PLAYING CHRISTIANITY, WHEN WE ARE ON THE FENCE, WE WOULD BE
50:59 A ZERO. WE ARE NOT GOING IN ONE WAY OR
51:02 THE OTHER. BUT ROMAN'S CHAPTER 8 SAYS NOW
51:07 THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION TO NOSE WHO WALK AFTER THE SPIRIT
51:11 AND NO LONGER AFTER THE FLESH. WHAT THAT MEANS, A LOT OF US,
51:17 FOR -- >> I HAVE TO ADD THIS.
51:19 IT SAYS THERE IS THEREFORE NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE IN
51:25 CHRIST JESUS. THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT
51:26 PART. >> FOR A LOT OF US, ESPECIALLY
51:29 PERSONALLY, YES, I HAVE ACCEPTED JESUS BUT I STILL
51:33 FEEL CONDEMNED AND GUILTY FOR THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER.
51:37 I FEEL IF I HAD SINNED I WOULD BE CAST OUT AND I WOULD COME
51:44 CRAWLING BACK IN CONFESSION. YES, WE MAKE MISTAKES BUT AS
51:49 LONG AS WE ARE NOT PURSUING THE THINGS EVER THE FLESH.
51:52 WE CAN HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT CHRIST IS WORKING IN US.
51:55 HE HAS GIVEN US THE SPIRIT TO DESIRE THE THING OF THE
51:59 SPIRIT. HE HAS GIVEN US THE STRENGTH
52:01 TO DEIRE THINGS HEAVENLY RATHER THAN EARTHLY.
52:04 AS LONG AS WE ARE WALKING IN THAT DIRECTION, WE CAN HAVE
52:08 CONFIDENCE THAT CHRIST IS WORKING IN US.
52:10 >> AMEN. I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO TURN
52:13 WITH ME RIGHT NOW TO HEBREWS CHAPTER 7.
52:20 BECAUSE THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO IS WATCHING THIS WHO
52:24 DESPERATELY NEEDS TO HEAR THIS.
52:25 PERHAPS THERE IS MORE THAN ONE PERSON WHO NEEDS TO HEAR THIS.
52:28 I WILL VENTURE TO SAY THERE ARE DEFINITELY.
52:31 IF I CAN GET MY PAGES UNSTUCK. LET'S BEGIN WITH HEBREWS
52:39 CHAPTER 7. I'LL LOOK AT VERSE 20.
52:42 SAYS, INASMUCH AS HE, SPEAKING OF JESUS, WAS NOT MADE A
52:47 PRIEST. HE IS SAYING GOD HAS MADE HIM
52:50 PRIEST OF THE NEW COVENANT. HE IS THE ONLY ONE.
52:54 HE DID THIS WITH A NOTE. BUT NOW LOOK AT VERSE 22.
53:03 SO MUCH MORE JESUS HAS BECOME A SURETY OF A BETTER COVENANT.
53:09 THAT MEANS JESUS IS THE GUARANTOR OF THE COVENANT.
53:14 IN OTHER WORDS, HE IS TH GUARANTOR BETWEEN GOD, TO US,
53:19 THAT ALL OF GOD'S PROMS ARE IN CHRIST JESUS.
53:25 IT IS THROUGH CHRIST HE THE GUARANTOR THAT THE PROMISE IS
53:31 OURS. HE IS ALSO OUR GUARANTOR TO
53:35 GOD, THAT HE WILL BY POWER OF HIS HOLY SPIRIT WORK IN US
53:40 WILLING TO DO HIS GOOD PLEASURE THAT HE WILL COMPLETE
53:43 THE GOOD WORK HE HAS BEGUN IN US.
53:46 IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT SALVATION IS GUARANTEED, HE IS
53:51 THE SURETY OF THIS NEW COVENANT.
53:54 IF WE UNDERSTAND THAT CHRIST IS OUR GUARANTOR, IT'S ALL
54:00 ABOUT -- TO ME THIS IS SO LIBERATING.
54:03 LET ME FINISH THIS.-úTHEN IT SAYS, IN VERSE 25. THEREFORE, BECAUSE HE IS THE
54:10 PRIEST OF THE NEW COVENANT, IT IS SO MUCH A BETTER COVENANT
54:14 AND HE IS THE SUETY. HE IS ABLE TO SAVE TO THE
54:18 UTTER MOST, THOSE WHO COME TO-GOD THROUGH HIM, SINCE HE ALWAYS MAKES INTERCESSION FOR
54:26 THEM. IF WE WOULD QUIT STRUGGLING
54:28 AND LEARN TO SURRENDER. EVEN THAT WE NEED HIS HELP.
54:37 ELLEN WHITE PRAYED ONCE, SHE SAID TAKE MY HEART, FOR I
54:42 CAN'T GIVE IT. SHE WAS ASKING THE LORD, BREAK
54:47 MY HEART. GIVE ME A COMPASSIONATE HEART.
54:51 ONE OF THE PROMISES IS HE WILL-GIVE US A NEW HEART. WE NEED TO LEARN DAY BY DAY,
54:56 LORD, HELP ME TO SURRENDER SO THAT BY THE POWER OF OUR
54:59 SPIRIT I CAN PUT TO DEATH THE MISDEEDS OF OUR FLESH.
55:03 WE ARE STRUGGLING, AS YOU SAID.
55:04 THIS IS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE. WE ARE ALL INVOLVED IN THE
55:09 SPIRITUAL BATTLE. BUT I WOULD SAY IN SPIRITUAL
55:13 WARFARE, THE FIRST THING TO LEARN IS THAT THE BATTLE
55:16 BELONGS TO THE LORD AND IF WE JUST SURRENDERED TO GOD, OUR
55:21 SALVATION IS GAWRNTSED AS LONG AS HE IS IN CHARGE.
55:23 >> IT IS. WE CAN HAVE PERFECT
55:26 CONFIDENCE. >> AMEN.
55:26 >> THE LAST THING ON THERE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
55:30 I HAVE LINES DRAWN FROM EXPERIENCE TO FAITH TO TRUTH
55:36 OR FACT. AND SO THE TRUTH AND THE FACT
55:39 IS THE WORD OF GOD.-THE WORD OF GOD SAYS THINGS VERY PLAINLY.
55:43 THE PROBLEM IS OUR FAITH DOESN'T ALWAYS FOLLOW THE
55:46 TRUTH OR THE FACT. SO WHAT IT DOES, IN REALITY,
55:49 IT FOLLOWS THE EXPERIENCE. SO THE WAY I IMAGINE IT, I
55:53 IMAGINE THERE IS THIS HIGH LINE BETWEEN TWO CLIFFS AND
55:57 YOU HAVE A 500-FOOT DROP. TRUTH/FACT KNOWS, I CAN WALK
56:03 THIS AND WALKS IT WITHOUT A SINGLE PROBLEM.
56:05 NO HITCH. FAITH, IF IT KEEPS ITS EYE ON
56:10 THE TRUTH AND THE PROMS OF GOD WHERE HE SAYS WE HAVE VICTORY
56:13 IN JESUS CHRIST. WE HAVE BEEN MADE NEW
56:16 CREATIONS. WE HAVE THESE PROMISES OF GOD
56:19 THAT SAYS IT'S NOT IN THE FUTURE, IT'S SOMETHING HE HAS
56:22 DONE AND WE CAN CLAIM IT TODAY.
56:25 WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL VICTORY TOMORROW.
56:28 FAITH TAKE THE WORD OF GOD AS FACT.
56:31 I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, I DON'T TBRAPS IT BUT I'LL TAKE IT AND
56:34 BELIEVE IT AND LIVE AS IF IT'S TRUE, THEN FAITH WILL BE ABLE
56:39 TO WALK THE HIGH LINE BEHIND TRUTH.
56:42 THE PROBLEM IS EXPERIENCE COMES UP.
56:44 THE EXPERIENCE SAYS, HAVE YOU EVER WALK ADD HIGH LINE
56:47 BEFORE? NO.
56:48 DO YOU REALIZE THERE IS WINDS AND IF YOU FALL, WILL YOU DIE.
56:52 IT PUTS IN ALL OF THESE DOUBTS.
56:54 YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU
56:57 CAN DO IT NOW? I THINK OF THE MAN AT THE POOL
57:01 OF BETHESDA. THERE HE BASICALLY, HE HAD
57:06 NEVER EXPERIENCED VICTORY BEFORE.
57:08 JESUS COMES TO HIM AND SAID WOULD YOU BE MADE WHOLE AND HE
57:11 ACTS ON THAT WORD. >> THAT'S WHAT FAITH IS ALL
57:15 ABOUT. WE ARE JUST BARELY GETTING
57:17 INTO THIS.-WE WILL HAVE SO MUCH MORE IN THE SECOND HOUR.
57:22 WE ARE THANKFUL THAT YOU HAVE JOINED US.
57:25 PLEASE GET YOUR BIBLES. GET OUT A PEN AND PAPER.
57:27 WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU CAN BE
57:34 VICTORIOUS THROUGH SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
57:35 JOIN US, WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST TWO MINUTES.
57:42 [♪♪]


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