¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤ ¤ SPEND MY LIFE ¤ 00:00:05.60\00:00:10.91 ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤ 00:00:10.91\00:00:22.65 ¤ REMOVING PAIN ¤ ¤ LORD LET MY WORDS ¤ 00:00:22.65\00:00:32.96 ¤ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤ 00:00:32.96\00:00:42.77 ¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE, 00:00:42.77\00:00:56.62 MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤ >>> HELLO, FRIENDS, AND WELCOME 00:00:56.62\00:01:17.57 TO THURSDAY NIGHT LIVE. 3ABN HAS STUDIOS IN TWO 00:01:17.57\00:01:22.11 LOCALITIES WHICH IS JUST AN INCH AWAY FROM EACH OTHER ON THE 00:01:22.11\00:01:26.05 COUNTY LINE OR THE CITY LINE. BUT THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN. 00:01:26.05\00:01:29.58 MY NAME IS JOHN LOMACANG. IF YOU ARE TUNING IN FOR THE 00:01:29.58\00:01:32.92 FIRST TIME, THIS IS THE NETWORK THAT WE BELIEVE THE LORD WANTS 00:01:32.92\00:01:38.79 YOU TO LISTEN TO TONIGHT, SO DON'T CHANGE THE CHANNEL. 00:01:38.79\00:01:42.80 WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT IS GOING TO INSPIRE YOU AND IGNITE YOU. 00:01:42.80\00:01:47.74 TONIGHT WE BELIEVE THE LORD IS GOING TO SPAK TO YOUR HEART IN 00:01:47.74\00:01:51.81 A MARVELOUS WAY. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE 00:01:51.81\00:01:55.94 STAYED WITH US THROUGH THE YEARS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR 00:01:55.94\00:01:58.61 PRAYERS AND FOR YOUR FINANCIAL SUPPORT. 00:01:58.61\00:02:01.38 THAT KEEPS US GOING AND GROWING, AS WE PREPARE FOR THE 00:02:01.38\00:02:05.75 SOON-COMING OF OUR SAVIOR, AND WHAT A DAY TO BE LIVING IN BOTH -POLITICALLY, SPIRITUAL, THERE 00:02:05.75\00:02:16.43 ARE CHALLENGES EVERYWHERE, BUT AS DANNY SHELTON SAYS, IF WE 00:02:16.43\00:02:21.70 CONTINUE TO PREACH THE UNDILUTED THREE ANGELS MESSAGE, WE KNOW WE 00:02:21.70\00:02:32.58 WILL BE BLESSED. YOU CAN WRITE US AND ASK 00:02:32.58\00:02:36.08 QUESTIONS, BUT TONIGHT IS ALL THE WAY LIVE. 00:02:36.08\00:02:38.59 AND WE HAVE TWO YOUNG MEN THAT ARE ON FIRE FOR THE LORD. 00:02:38.59\00:02:42.99 I'LL INTRODUCE THEM TO YOU IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS. 00:02:42.99\00:02:46.09 BEFORE WE GO TO OUR MUSIC, THOUGH, I WANT TO BEGIN BY 00:02:46.09\00:02:50.13 DISPELLING SOME RUMORS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE INTERNET. 00:02:50.13\00:02:53.47 MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD THINGS ON THE INTERNET ABOUT 3ABN IN 00:02:53.47\00:03:01.18 RUSSIA. BECAUSE IT'S ON THE INTERNET 00:03:01.18\00:03:03.68 DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TRUE. BECAUSE YOUR FRINDS TAG IT TO -YOU, DOESN'T MEAN IT IS VALID OR 00:03:03.68\00:03:10.49 SOMETHING THAT IS CERTAIN. AS YOU PROBABLY ARE AWARE -- YOU 00:03:10.49\00:03:13.96 HAVE HEARD -- PEOPLE SAID THERE IS TROUBLE AT 3ABN RUSSIA; THAT 00:03:13.96\00:03:17.83 IT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN. I WANT TO SET THE RECORD 00:03:17.83\00:03:20.53 STRAIGHT TONIGHT, AND I CANNOT BELIEVE I'M GOING TO USE THIS 00:03:20.53\00:03:24.90 PHRASE. THAT'S FAKE NEWS. 00:03:24.90\00:03:28.67 [ LAUGHTER ] >> AND I THOUGHT LORD I'LL NEVER 00:03:28.67\00:03:31.41 USE THAT PHRASE, BUT I HAVE TO USE IT TONIGHT. 00:03:31.41\00:03:34.14 3ABN RUSSIA IS BEING BLESSED BY THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD. 00:03:34.14\00:03:38.05 THEY ARE IN A WONDERFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE 00:03:38.05\00:03:40.38 GOVERNMENT. THE GOVERNMENT IS VERY 00:03:40.38\00:03:42.75 SUPPORTIVE. THE GOVERNMENT HAS MADE 00:03:42.75\00:03:45.25 INITIATIVES FOR 3ABN RUSSIA TO REACH OUTS TO IT COMMUNITY. 00:03:45.25\00:03:49.86 SO THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE DANGER OF 3ABN RUSSIA BEING SHUT DOWN, 00:03:49.86\00:03:54.56 AND SOME OF YOU HAVE HEARD -- AND I'LL SHARE A FEW 00:03:54.56\00:03:58.17 THINGS YEAR, JULIA WHO IS THE HEAD OF OUR 3ABN RUSSIA, HAS 00:03:58.17\00:04:03.00 MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THERE ARE SOME ISSUES IN RUSSIA WITH 00:04:03.00\00:04:06.71 CERTAIN OTHER DENOMINATIONS, BUT THANK THE LORD NOT WITH THE 00:04:06.71\00:04:11.48 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH, AND SURELY NOT WITH OUR 3ABN 00:04:11.48\00:04:14.55 RUSSIA FACILITY. SO IF YOU HEARD THAT NEWS, DON'T 00:04:14.55\00:04:18.52 PASS IT ON. YOU CAN DELETE IT. 00:04:18.52\00:04:21.12 YOU CAN GO TO YOUR FACEBACK FRIENDS AND SAY IF YOU HEARD 00:04:21.12\00:04:25.49 ABOUT 3ABN RUSSIA IN A NEGATIVE WAY, IT IS NOT RELIABLE NEW. 00:04:25.49\00:04:30.33 IT IS NOT RELIABLE AT ALL. THERE ARE SOME NEWS NETWORKS 00:04:30.33\00:04:35.07 THAT KNOW HOW TO FIX THINGS UP AND MAKE IT LOOK LEGIT, BUT IT 00:04:35.07\00:04:39.47 IS NOT LEGIT. 3ABN IS ON 80 COUNTRIES ACROSS 00:04:39.47\00:04:44.88 THE FORMER SOVIET UNION AND CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD. 00:04:44.88\00:04:49.02 IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CARTER REPORT, WE'RE PLANNING TO DO A 00:04:49.02\00:04:53.52 SERIES IN RUSSIA, AND JOHN CARTER IS JOINING US, AND WE'RE 00:04:53.52\00:04:58.33 LOOKING FORWARD FOR THE LORD TO EXPAND THE HORIZON THERE. 00:04:58.33\00:05:02.83 THE DOORS ARE WIDE OPEN FOR THE SPREAD OF THE GOSPEL, AND GOD IS 00:05:02.83\00:05:07.34 HOLDING BACK THE WINDS, SO THAT THIS AD VENT MESSAGE CAN REACH 00:05:07.34\00:05:16.51 THE HEARTS AND LIVES OF OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN RUSSIA. 00:05:16.51\00:05:20.58 WE KNOW BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING IN THE LAST DAYS, BUT AS OF THIS 00:05:20.58\00:05:26.25 BROADCAST, 3ABN RUSSIA IS ALIVE AND WELL AND NOT IN ANY JEOPARDY 00:05:26.25\00:05:31.59 AT ALL WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND THE DOORS ARE WIDE OPEN, AND 00:05:31.59\00:05:34.73 THEY ARE DOING PROGRAMS EVERY DPA -- DAY, AND THEY ARE SEE 00:05:34.73\00:05:42.17 ALL THROUGHOUT RUSSIA, SO IF YOU HEARD THAT, YOU CAN TAKE A 00:05:42.17\00:05:46.17 BREATH AND REST ASSURE THAT THAT IS NOT RELIABLE NEWS. 00:05:46.17\00:05:49.91 IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT, YOU CAN GO TO OUR 3ABN 00:05:49.91\00:05:55.85 WEBSITE, 3ABN.TV, AND THERE IS AN UPDATE FROM JULIA ON OUR 00:05:55.85\00:06:03.93 PAT PATIENT WEBSITE. 00:06:03.93\00:06:06.49 IF YOU READ THAT EMAIL, YOU CAN SEND THE MESSAGE TO YOUR FRIENDS 00:06:06.49\00:06:13.00 THAT IT IS NOT VALID. BEFORE WE INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS 00:06:13.00\00:06:17.87 WE HAVE MUSIC. AND I'M ALL SO IMPRESSED WITH 00:06:17.87\00:06:24.21 THIS YOUNG MAN. AND HE IS GOING TO BLESS US WITH 00:06:24.21\00:06:27.92 A SONG ENTITLED "ALWAYS." 00:06:27.92\00:06:35.52 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ALWAYS 00:06:53.64\00:06:58.81 ¤ I HAVE SENSED THE LORD BEFORE ME ¤ 00:06:58.81\00:07:07.72 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:07:07.72\00:07:12.93 ¤ SO THAT I CANNOT BE MOVED ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:07:12.93\00:07:23.14 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ I ACCEPT THE LORD BEFORE ME ¤ 00:07:23.14\00:07:38.55 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:07:38.55\00:07:46.09 ¤ SO THAT I CANNOT BE MOVED ¤ YOU HAVE SHOWN ME THE WAY TO 00:07:46.09\00:07:58.11 LIGHT ¤ ¤ IN YOUR PRESENCE IT'S A JOY ¤ 00:07:58.11\00:08:07.02 ¤ THERE ARE PLEASURES FOREVER MORE ¤ 00:08:07.02\00:08:17.46 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:08:17.46\00:08:24.87 ¤ I ACCEPT THE LORD BEFORE ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:08:24.87\00:08:41.98 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ I ACCEPT THE LORD BEFORE ME, 00:08:41.98\00:08:46.12 SO I CANNOT BE MOVED ¤ ¤ THERE'S ONE THING THAT I KNOW 00:08:46.12\00:08:50.86 OF, I MAY DWELL IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD ¤ 00:08:50.86\00:08:57.57 ¤ AND RESIDE IN HIS TEMPLE FOREVER, EVER MORE ¤ 00:08:57.57\00:09:08.28 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:09:08.28\00:09:18.05 ¤ I ACCEPT THE LORD BEFORE ME ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:09:18.05\00:09:29.70 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ SO THAT I CANNOT BE MOVED ¤ 00:09:29.70\00:09:40.34 ¤ OH ALWAYS ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:09:40.34\00:09:49.12 ¤ I ACCEPT THE LORD BEFORE ME ¤ ¤ ALWAYS ¤ 00:09:49.12\00:09:59.79 ¤ ALWAYS ¤ ¤ SO THAT I CANNOT, SO THAT I 00:09:59.79\00:10:10.97 CANNOT ¤ ¤ SO THAT I CANNOT BE MOVED, 00:10:10.97\00:10:22.62 LORD ¤ ¤ OH I SHALL NOT ¤ 00:10:22.62\00:10:24.85 ¤ YES, I SHALL NOT ¤ ¤ LORD, I SHALL NOT ¤ 00:10:24.85\00:10:34.96 ¤ BE MOVED ¤ >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. 00:10:34.96\00:11:10.13 THANK YOU FOR INSPIRING US. I'M ACTUALLY ON A PROJECT NOW, 00:11:10.13\00:11:15.37 AND HE WRITES A LOT OF WONDERFUL ORIGINAL SONGS, AND I'M IN THE 00:11:15.37\00:11:19.91 PROCESS OF RECORDING TWO OF THOSE, NOT ON A PROJECT OF MINE, 00:11:19.91\00:11:23.35 BUT THIS YOUNG MAN IS INSPIRED, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TALK 00:11:23.35\00:11:28.25 ABOUT THE LOVE OF THE LORD, WHICH IS ALWAYS THE CONSTANT 00:11:28.25\00:11:31.49 BLESSINGS OF GOD. LET'S MEET OUR GUESTS TONIGHT. 00:11:31.49\00:11:34.92 I COULD SUMMARIZE THIS PROGRAM BY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TALK 00:11:34.92\00:11:40.76 ABOUT SALT. NOT SEASONED SALT, COOKING SALT, 00:11:40.76\00:11:43.70 BUT CHRISTIAN SALT. WE HAVE TWO YOUNG MEN, ERIC 00:11:43.70\00:11:47.64 CAMARILLO. GOOD TO MEET YOU. 00:11:47.64\00:11:49.50 AND LO-AMMI RICHARDSON. GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE. 00:11:49.50\00:11:51.84 >> GOOD TO BE HERE. >> THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME ON 00:11:51.84\00:11:58.41 3ABN LIVE. >> UH-HUH. 00:11:58.41\00:12:00.22 >> BUT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE DAY, AND 00:12:00.22\00:12:04.79 I'M GLAD THAT YOU GUYS ARE NOT SALT THAT HAS LOST ITS SAVOR. 00:12:04.79\00:12:12.26 >> AMEN. >> I'LL START WITH YOU, ERIC, 00:12:12.26\00:12:15.36 JUST IN A NUTSHELL, WHO YOU ARE, WHERE YOU ARE FROM, AND WHAT YOU 00:12:15.36\00:12:19.27 DO RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL COME BACK TO YOU TO GIVE YOU SOME ROOM TO 00:12:19.27\00:12:24.07 GIVE US YOUR BACKGROUND. >> YEAH, YEAH. 00:12:24.07\00:12:27.38 SO A LITTLE ABOUT MYSELF. MY NAME IS ERIC. 00:12:27.38\00:12:30.08 I WAS RAISED IN CHICAGO. I WAS BORN IN CHICAGO, RAISED 00:12:30.08\00:12:33.75 THERE, MOVED TO FLORIDA, IN ORLANDO NOW. 00:12:33.75\00:12:37.42 >> WHY WOULD YOU MOVE TO FLORIDA FROM CHICAGO IN 00:12:37.42\00:12:39.39 >> IT'S A FUNNY STORY, BUT I WAS HELD AT GUNPOINT IN CHICAGO, MY 00:12:39.39\00:12:46.13 MOM FOUND OUT, AND SHE IS LIKE WE GOT TO GET OUT OF HERE. 00:12:46.13\00:12:49.73 >> GOOD REASON. >> YEAH. 00:12:49.73\00:12:52.10 YEAH. RIGHT NOW I'M IN SCHOOL, GETTING 00:12:52.10\00:12:55.54 MY MASTERS IN NON-PROFIT MANAGEMENT. 00:12:55.54\00:13:04.45 YEAH, THE MINISTRY IS -- IS -- IS MY MAIN FOCUS. 00:13:04.45\00:13:08.88 >> WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE. 00:13:08.88\00:13:11.65 >> YEAH. YEAH. 00:13:11.65\00:13:14.02 >> WOW. >> LO-AMMI. 00:13:14.02\00:13:16.26 >> YES. >> A BIBLE NAME FROM THE BOOK OF 00:13:16.26\00:13:20.83 ISAIAH. >> YES. 00:13:20.83\00:13:21.66 >> TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF. >> I WAS BORN A SEVENTH-DAY 00:13:21.66\00:13:26.90 ADVENTISTS, GREW UP IN ORLANDO THE MAJORITY OF MY LIFE, AND 00:13:26.90\00:13:30.84 JUST BECAUSE YOU GROW UP IN THE CHURCH, DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE A 00:13:30.84\00:13:34.98 RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. SO WHEN I DRIFTED AWAY, TRYING 00:13:34.98\00:13:39.68 TO FILL THE VOID I WANTED TO FILL SO DESPERATE WITH THE 00:13:39.68\00:13:44.19 THINGS OF THE WORLD, EVENTUALLY I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM MY 00:13:44.19\00:13:50.33 SISTER THAT LEAD ME TO GYC AND MY CONVERSION PROCESS STARTED 00:13:50.33\00:13:55.83 SINCE THEN. 2010 I GAVE MY HEART TO GOD, AND 00:13:55.83\00:13:59.80 HAVE BEEN IN FULL-TIME EVANGELISM SINCE THEN. 00:13:59.80\00:14:02.74 >> PRAISE THE LORD. YOU ARE REALLY SHAKING THE SALT 00:14:02.74\00:14:06.71 SHAKER OF THE KINGDOM WHEREVER YOU GO. 00:14:06.71\00:14:10.08 >> RIGHT. >> TELL ME ABOUT THIS. 00:14:10.08\00:14:12.11 BECAUSE I'M LISTENING TO THE ONE THAT WAS RAISED OR BORN IN AN 00:14:12.11\00:14:17.09 ADD ADVENTIST FAMILY, BUT STILL NEEDED TO BE BORN AGAIN. 00:14:17.09\00:14:24.06 AND ERIC, WE'LL BEGIN WITH YOU. YOU TALKED ABOUT BEING BORN AND 00:14:24.06\00:14:28.50 RAISED IN CHICAGO. >> RIGHT. 00:14:28.50\00:14:30.03 >> ALL MAJOR CITIES HAVE THEIR CHALLENGES. 00:14:30.03\00:14:33.03 ORLANDO IS BECOMING ONE -- SORRY, IS ONE. 00:14:33.03\00:14:36.20 >> DEFINITELY IS ONE. YEAH. 00:14:36.20\00:14:39.11 >> IT'S BAD NOW. >> YEAH, I WAS RAISED CULTURALLY 00:14:39.11\00:14:43.08 A CATHOLIC. I DIDN'T REALLY PRACTICE 00:14:43.08\00:14:45.78 ANYTHING -- ANY OF THE BELIEFS THROUGH FAITH. 00:14:45.78\00:14:48.98 IT WAS JUST KIND OF A TRADITION ON BOTH SIDES OF MY FAMILY, VERY 00:14:48.98\00:14:53.69 DEEP, DEEP-ROOTED IN THE CATHOLIC FAITH. 00:14:53.69\00:14:57.99 AND SO I -- I WASN'T UNTIL I MOVED HERE. 00:14:57.99\00:15:01.23 I WAS ABOUT 22 YEARS OLD. JUST GOT OUT OF A RELATIONSHIP 00:15:01.23\00:15:05.07 THAT LEAD ME TO TRY TO FILL THIS EMPTY HOLE THAT WAS IN MY HEART. 00:15:05.07\00:15:10.67 AND I REMEMBER SEARCHING IN ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT WAYS, EVEN 00:15:10.67\00:15:14.74 VIDEO GAMES, GOING OUT WITH FRIENDS, ALL OF THESE 00:15:14.74\00:15:18.11 DIFFERENT -- DRINKING AND GETTING INTO OTHER THINGS, TO 00:15:18.11\00:15:21.32 TRY TO FILL THAT GAP. BUT IT WAS ONLY A TEMPORARY FIX. 00:15:21.32\00:15:27.26 SO ONE DAY I WOKE UP, AND WAS IN STILL THIS DEPRESSION MODE FROM 00:15:27.26\00:15:32.46 THAT RELATIONSHIP. I WOKE UP, AND SOMEONE BOUGHT ME 00:15:32.46\00:15:38.47 A BIBLE FOR CHRISTMAS. THIS WAS JAN 2010. 00:15:38.47\00:15:47.94 AND I OPENED THE BIBLE AND STARTED READING. 00:15:47.94\00:15:52.95 AND THE WORDS FOR THE SERMON OF THE MOUNT WERE IN RED.3 00:15:52.95\00:15:58.19 AND I STARTED TO FEEL A COMFORT I HAD NEVER FELT BEFORE. 00:15:58.19\00:16:02.36 AND I JUST KEPT READING. I KEPT READING. 00:16:02.36\00:16:05.53 MY PARENTS THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY, BECAUSE THERE WERE TIMES 00:16:05.53\00:16:09.43 WHEN I WOULDN'T GO TO EAT AT THE TABLE. 00:16:09.43\00:16:12.47 MY MOM WOULD HAVE TO BRING ME FOOD. 00:16:12.47\00:16:15.30 OH, ADAM AND EVE, I HAVE HEARD THAT STORY, LET ME READ IT. 00:16:15.30\00:16:20.08 >> THE BREAD OF LIFE TASTED GOOD. 00:16:20.08\00:16:22.21 >> RIGHT. IT WAS REALLY INTENSE. 00:16:22.21\00:16:25.05 IT WAS AN EXPERIENCE FOR SURE. MY MOM ENDED UP MAKING ME SIT 00:16:25.05\00:16:30.62 DOWN WITH CATHOLIC PRIEST, AND IT WAS AFTER THAT MEETING THAT 00:16:30.62\00:16:36.66 IT WAS CONFIRMED TO ME BY GOD THAT I WAS GOING IN THE RIGHT 00:16:36.66\00:16:41.70 DIRECTION. AND -- AND I JUST -- I KEPT 00:16:41.70\00:16:44.97 STUDYING, I -- THERE WERE THREE GROUPS OF FRIENDS WHO WERE 00:16:44.97\00:16:48.44 CHRISTIAN, AND I ASKED THEM TO GIVE ME BIBLE STUDIES. 00:16:48.44\00:16:52.24 TWO OF THOSE GROUPS HAPPENED TO BE ADVENTIST GROUPS, AND THE 00:16:52.24\00:16:57.65 OTHER WAS NON-DENOMINATIONAL. I STUDIED THE TRADITIONAL 00:16:57.65\00:17:02.22 CHRISTIAN SCHOOL OF THOUGHT AND THE ADVENTIST SCHOOL OF THOUGHT, 00:17:02.22\00:17:05.59 AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, I MADE THE DECISION TO START 00:17:05.59\00:17:10.79 ATTENDING THE ADVENTIST CHURCH. BECAUSE THE WHOLE BIBLE WAS 00:17:10.79\00:17:15.30 TAKEN IN CONTEXT, AND IT JUST MADE MORE SENSE TO ME. 00:17:15.30\00:17:20.40 IT JUST FIT TOGETHER, AND YEAH, I WAS BAPTIZED IN MAY 2010 AT 00:17:20.40\00:17:25.27 THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. 00:17:25.27\00:17:26.51 I GOOGLED A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH THAT MY MOM 00:17:26.51\00:17:30.08 WOULD MOST LIKELY GO TO, AND SHE IS FILIPINO, SO I THOUGHT LET ME 00:17:30.08\00:17:35.68 GO HERE. I WALKED IN, AND TO THE FIRST 00:17:35.68\00:17:38.25 PERSON I SAW, I SAID I WANT TO BE BAPTIZED. 00:17:38.25\00:17:41.12 AND HE IS LIKE, OH, OKAY. HE CALLED THE PASTOR. 00:17:41.12\00:17:45.69 HE IS LIKE SOMEONE JUST CAME IN HERE AND WANTS TO BE BAPTIZED. 00:17:45.69\00:17:49.76 SO THAT WAS IN APRIL OF 2010 AND THEN IN MAY AFTER MY STUDY. 00:17:49.76\00:17:54.27 >> WOW, SO YOU WERE ON FIRE FOR THE LORD. 00:17:54.27\00:17:57.11 I WANT YOU TO TIP IN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT STORY ABOUT YOUR 00:17:57.11\00:18:02.98 MOTHER TAKING YOU TO THE CATHOLIC PRIEST. 00:18:02.98\00:18:06.41 WHAT WAS THAT LIKE? >> WELL, SO IT WAS -- IT WAS 00:18:06.41\00:18:12.85 NERVE-RACKING. YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO 00:18:12.85\00:18:15.29 DO. WE HAVE SEEN HIM. 00:18:15.29\00:18:17.33 WE HAVE GONE TO CHURCH AND SEEN THIS PRIEST UP THERE, AND HE IS 00:18:17.33\00:18:21.86 FILIPINO TOO, ACTUALLY, AND MY MOM FELT VERY COMFORTABLE WITH 00:18:21.86\00:18:26.13 HIM, SO I REMEMBER MY MOM TELLING ME, HEY, WE'RE GOING TO 00:18:26.13\00:18:29.67 SIT DOWN WITH HIM. I WENT AND STARTED TYPING. 00:18:29.67\00:18:32.54 I TYPED SEVEN PAGES OF NOTES. SEVEN PAGES OF NOTES I WANTED TO 00:18:32.54\00:18:38.35 COVER WITH THIS PRIEST, AND -- AND IN -- IN THOSE PAGES, 00:18:38.35\00:18:43.69 YOU KNOW, I WOULD GO TO SIT DOWN WITH HIM, AND I BRING UP THREE 00:18:43.69\00:18:48.72 TOPICS. ONE IS -- ONE I ASK ABOUT IS WHY 00:18:48.72\00:18:51.43 DO WE PRAY TO OTHER PEOPLE? ROMANS 323 SAYS [ INAUDIBLE ] 00:18:51.43\00:18:57.70 GLORY OF GOD. THE OTHER QUESTION WAS WHY DO I 00:18:57.70\00:19:02.74 NEED TO CONFESS MY SINS TO ANOTHER PERON.->> I WANT TO PAUSE A MOMENT HERE 00:19:02.74\00:19:12.01 AND JUST KIND OF -- AS YOU ARE LISTENING TO THIS STORY, I KNOW 00:19:12.01\00:19:16.32 THERE MAY BE SOME OF YOU THAT MAY BE IN THE SAME PLACE THAT 00:19:16.32\00:19:20.02 ERIC WAS, ON THE JOURNEY TO FINING WHERE GOD WANTS YOU TO 00:19:20.02\00:19:24.36 FIT. AND THIS IS -- SOMETIMES IT CAN 00:19:24.36\00:19:27.23 BE STARTLING. SOMETIMES IT CAN BE CHALLENGING. 00:19:27.23\00:19:30.57 SOMETIMES IT COULD BE NERVE-RACKING, AND YOU WONDER IS 00:19:30.57\00:19:34.07 MY LIFE MOVING IN THE DIRECTION THAT GOD WANTS ME TO MOVE IN, 00:19:34.07\00:19:38.57 AND AS YOU LISTEN TO THE STORY UNFOLD, I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO 00:19:38.57\00:19:42.81 BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF WITH HIM. 00:19:42.81\00:19:45.21 WHEN GOD SPEAKS THROUGH HIS WORD, HIS WORD IS ALWAYS 00:19:45.21\00:19:48.85 RELIABLE. AND I WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU, 00:19:48.85\00:19:51.75 ERIC -- WELL, LET ME GIVE L LO-AMMI A CHANCE TO CHIME IN. 00:19:51.75\00:20:00.06 BEING RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN ADVENTIST HOME, YOU ALSO 00:20:00.06\00:20:04.03 MENTIONED EARLIER, THE VOIDS. I WANT TO MENTION THAT BRIEFLY. 00:20:04.03\00:20:07.34 THERE ARE LOTS OF HOLES IN THE LIVES OF SO MANY PEOPLE, AND I 00:20:07.34\00:20:13.94 THINK ANOTHER DEFINITION FOR SIN IS AN ATTMPT TO FILL A VOID 00:20:13.94\00:20:17.98 THAT ONLY GOD CAN FILL, BUT TALK ABOUT THAT. 00:20:17.98\00:20:20.25 >> THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST EXPLANATION FOR ME. 00:20:20.25\00:20:22.72 I GREW UP IN THE CHURCH, GREW UP IN A GOOD CHRISTIAN HOME, MY 00:20:22.72\00:20:28.06 MOTHER WAS VERY INFLUENTIAL IN MY LIFE. 00:20:28.06\00:20:31.66 MADE SURE I STUDIED MY BIBLE AND HAD THE ANSWERS PREPARED FOR 00:20:31.66\00:20:37.67 SABBATH SCHOOL THE NEXT MORNING. BUT AS YOU GROW OLDER, CHURCH 00:20:37.67\00:20:42.90 BECOMES A PLACE WHERE YOU HANG OUT AND SOCIALIZE, AND ONCE YOU 00:20:42.90\00:20:47.21 GET OLD ENOUGH TO START MAKING YOUR OWN DECISIONS, CHURCH 00:20:47.21\00:20:50.65 DIDN'T BECOME A PART OF THAT PROCESS. 00:20:50.65\00:20:53.08 SO TRYING TO FIND MYSELF AND FINDING WHAT I COULD IDENTIFY 00:20:53.08\00:20:59.82 WITH, WAS FILLING ME UP. I WANTED TO PURSUE A CAREER IN 00:20:59.82\00:21:04.49 BASKETBALL, AND YOU HANG AROUND CERTAIN PEOPLE AND ARE 00:21:04.49\00:21:07.03 INFLUENCED BY THE MUSIC, CULTURE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS 00:21:07.03\00:21:11.37 THAT MOLDED AND SHAPED THE WAY I WAS ACTING. 00:21:11.37\00:21:18.64 AND THT LEAD ME ASTRAY FROM THE CHURCH TO THE POINT WHERE I WAS 00:21:18.64\00:21:23.78 DOING THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO, AND EVENTUALLY IT GOT TO THE 00:21:23.78\00:21:28.15 POINT WHERE I WAS PURSUING THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS, THE 00:21:28.15\00:21:32.25 CARS -- YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE MATERIAL THINGS, AND EVENTUALLY 00:21:32.25\00:21:35.39 THE LORD WAS STRIPPING THOSE THINGS AWAY, AND SO THE THINGS 00:21:35.39\00:21:39.19 THAT I FOUND JOY IN, THE THINGS THAT I FOUND MY IDENTITY IN, 00:21:39.19\00:21:44.33 ULTIMATELY WAS BEING STRIPPED AWAY, AND IT IS JUST LIKE ERIC 00:21:44.33\00:21:48.14 SAID, IT WAS A RELATIONSHIP THAT I GOT OUT OF, AND SHE WAS MY 00:21:48.14\00:21:52.81 PRIZED POSSESSION, AND WHEN SHE LEFT, IT WAS LIKE, WHAT IS THE 00:21:52.81\00:21:57.01 POINT OF LIVING? WHAT IS GOING TO ALLOW ME TO 00:21:57.01\00:22:00.52 CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. >> SHE BECAME THE SCAFFOLD AND 00:22:00.52\00:22:05.59 YOU WERE ON LIKE THE 50TH FLOOR. >> YEAH. 00:22:05.59\00:22:10.49 I WAS NOT NECESSARILY SUICIDAL -- 00:22:10.49\00:22:12.43 >> BUT A BIG PART OF YOUR LIFE, WAS KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED? 00:22:12.43\00:22:16.33 >> ABSOLUTELY. SO THERE IS A POINT WHERE YOU 00:22:16.33\00:22:19.37 DRINK A LOT MORE, YOU TRY TO TRAIN A LOT MORE TO PLAY 00:22:19.37\00:22:23.87 BASKETBALL, AND THAT VOID BECOMES DEEPER AND DEEPER AND 00:22:23.87\00:22:26.94 BECOMES BIGGER AND BIGGER, AND MY MOTHER AND SISTER ALWAYS 00:22:26.94\00:22:32.31 PRAYED FOR ME, AND IT EVENTUALLY GOT TO A BREAKING POINT, WHERE 00:22:32.31\00:22:38.02 MY SISTER GAVE ME A CALL, AND TOLD ME ABOUT THIS CONFERENCE 00:22:38.02\00:22:43.73 GYC, AND I WAS LIKE, I WANT TO START THE YEAR OFF WITH GOD, AND 00:22:43.73\00:22:48.53 I ALWAYS SAY THAT BUT THEN I WAKE UP WITH A HANGOVER, BUT IF 00:22:48.53\00:22:54.10 I WOULD HAVE KNOWN IT WAS MY MOTHER THAT PAID FOR IT, I 00:22:54.10\00:22:58.71 WOULDN'T HAVE GONE. I DIFFERENT WANT TO DO ANYTHING 00:22:58.71\00:23:02.81 WITH RELIGION -- TO HAVE IT FORCED UPON ME, SO I MOVE 00:23:02.81\00:23:07.08 FORWARD, EVEN MY JOURNEY GOING TO GYC, I HAD ALL OF THESE 00:23:07.08\00:23:12.89 QUESTIONS BREWING IN MY MIND AND WAS DISCOURAGED BY A FRIEND, 00:23:12.89\00:23:17.76 BECOME DISCOURAGED ME TO GO, EVENTUALLY I WENT TO GYC AND 00:23:17.76\00:23:23.80 HEARD A SERMON BY MARK FINLEY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY QUESTION 00:23:23.80\00:23:28.47 I HAD HE ANSWERED IT AND WAS POINTING AT ME, AND THERE WAS A 00:23:28.47\00:23:32.27 POINT WHERE I WAS STRUGGLING WHETHER OR NOT I SHOULD GIVE MY 00:23:32.27\00:23:37.81 HEART TO GOD, AND MY PHONE WAS RINGING, HEY, WHERE ARE YOU? 00:23:37.81\00:23:46.12 AND I REMEMBER MY HEART BEING RIPPED APART, AND MY ONLY 00:23:46.12\00:23:51.13 NATURAL RESPONSE WAS TO CRY. AND THERE WERE THESE TWO 00:23:51.13\00:23:55.93 CARIBBEAN LADIES, AND I SAID I JUST WANT TO SEE MY SISTER. 00:23:55.93\00:23:59.70 AND THERE WAS A MASS GROUP OF PEOPLE WALKING. 00:23:59.70\00:24:02.40 I SAW MY SISTER, AND THEN THE GAP CLOSED AND I JUST REMEMBERED 00:24:02.40\00:24:05.87 ALL OF THE TIMES THAT SHE PRAYED FOR ME, THAT MY MOM PRAYED FOR 00:24:05.87\00:24:10.41 ME, AND AT THAT POINT I MADE A DECISION FOR CHRIST, AND 00:24:10.41\00:24:15.15 SEBASTIAN [ INAUDIBLE ] WAS A MAJOR INFLUENCE AS WELL. 00:24:15.15\00:24:17.62 I WISH I COULD SAY I WENT BACK ON FIRE FOR GOD, BUT I TRIED 00:24:17.62\00:24:21.82 TO -- NOW -- I PLACED GOD IN MY LIFE, BUT I TRIED TO STILL HOLD 00:24:21.82\00:24:26.86 ON TO THE THINGS OF THE WORLD, AND IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE 00:24:26.86\00:24:31.90 GOD WAS LIKE IT'S EITHER ALL OR NOTHING. 00:24:31.90\00:24:34.44 SO I SAID YOU HAVE TO SEND ME AS FAR AWAY AS POSSIBLE, SO HE DID, 00:24:34.44\00:24:39.64 SO I ENDED UP BEING IN CALIFORNIA, AND IT WAS 00:24:39.64\00:24:43.48 DEFINITELY A JOURNEY, WHERE I DEFINITELY FELT GOD MOVING IN MY 00:24:43.48\00:24:47.65 LIFE AND PLACING ME WHERE I NEEDED TO BE. 00:24:47.65\00:24:50.05 >> WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THAT, AND PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, WHEN 00:24:50.05\00:24:53.49 THE LORD COMES INTO YOUR LIFE, YOU HAVE TO PREPARE FOR A ROD 00:24:53.49\00:24:58.03 CALL CHANGE. HE DOESN'T LET US GO OR BECOME 00:24:58.03\00:25:04.80 COMFORTABLE WHEN HIS VOICE IS -- WHEN HE EXTENDS HIS CALL, 00:25:04.80\00:25:09.14 HE CREATES A DISCOMFORT. I READ A DEVOTIONAL, WHERE IT 00:25:09.14\00:25:19.21 SAYS DON'T WAIT FOR GOD TO TAKE YOU OUT OF UNCOMFORTABLE 00:25:19.21\00:25:24.19 SITUATIONS, BECAUSE YOU ARE WHERE HE KNEW YOU WOULD BE, SO 00:25:24.19\00:25:27.32 HOLD ON TO THAT, I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO ERIC HERE, BECAUSE 00:25:27.32\00:25:34.00 YOU SURVIVED THE CATHOLIC PRIEST'S INTERVIEW, AND YOU SAID 00:25:34.00\00:25:38.07 THE LORD CONFIRMED IN THAT NIGHT OR THAT DAY THAT YOU WERE MOVING 00:25:38.07\00:25:42.37 IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, HOW DID THAT CONFIRMATION COME? 00:25:42.37\00:25:46.44 >> SO BASICALLY WHEN -- WHEN I HAD BROUGHT UP THE TOPIC OF, YOU 00:25:46.44\00:25:50.51 KNOW, WHY -- WHY DO WE PRAY TO OTHER SAINTS? 00:25:50.51\00:25:53.72 AND THEN ALSO WHY -- WHY DO WE NEED TO CONFESS OUR SINS. 00:25:53.72\00:25:58.45 I ALSO BROUGHT UP THE SABBATH, AND I MENTIONED WHY DI THE 00:25:58.45\00:26:02.59 EARLY CHURCH MOVE THE SABBATH FROM SATURDAY TO SUNDAY? 00:26:02.59\00:26:05.73 WHICH IS A FACT -- I MEAN YOU CAN LOOK IT UP ON LINE. 00:26:05.73\00:26:09.63 IT IS JUST A HISTORICAL FACT, AND HE MENTIONED THE SABBATH WAS 00:26:09.63\00:26:15.40 ALWAYS SUNDAY. AND I KNEW -- I'M LIKE, OKAY. 00:26:15.40\00:26:18.71 THAT'S -- THAT'S JUST NOT TRUE. [ LAUGHTER ] 00:26:18.71\00:26:21.31 >> AND YOU KNOW -- ANYWAY HE ENDED UP DESCRIBING MY 00:26:21.31\00:26:25.98 BIBLE -- OH, YOU HAVE A NEW KING JAMES THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT 00:26:25.98\00:26:32.52 BIBLE. AND I GAVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF 00:26:32.52\00:26:34.76 THE DOUBT, SO I COMPARED ALL OF THE VERSES, AND IT WAS THE SAME 00:26:34.76\00:26:41.70 THING. AND SO I WAS LIKE, GOD, I THINK 00:26:41.70\00:26:44.67 I'M GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 00:26:44.67\00:26:46.27 SO THAT'S WHEN I STARTED -- I WANTED TO LEARN MORE. 00:26:46.27\00:26:49.37 I CALLED THE PEOPLE UP TO GIVE ME BIBLE STUDIES, AND IT WENT 00:26:49.37\00:26:55.21 FROM THERE, YEAH. FROM THERE -- A YEAR LATER IS 00:26:55.21\00:26:59.75 ACTUALLY WHEN S.A.L.T., THE IDEA OF S.A.L.T. CAME. 00:26:59.75\00:27:02.95 AND -- AND THAT STARTED. >> WHEN S.A.L.T. GOT STARTED, 00:27:02.95\00:27:06.52 DID YOU START IT TOGETHER OR DID YOU START AND THEN GET LO-AMMI 00:27:06.52\00:27:11.63 LATER ON? >> LO-AMMI AND I MET, I WANT TO 00:27:11.63\00:27:14.23 SAY THREE YEARS AGO. >> GYC -- 00:27:14.23\00:27:17.73 >> GYC ORLANDO. AND S.A.L.T. HAS BEEN AROUND 00:27:17.73\00:27:21.24 FOR -- GOING ON SIX YEARS IN SEPTEMBER. 00:27:21.24\00:27:24.64 >> OKAY. BEFORE WE GET TO YOU BOTH 00:27:24.64\00:27:27.24 MEETING IN S.A.L.T., CONTINUE YOUR STORY, BECAUSE THE VOID, 00:27:27.24\00:27:30.58 THE LORD IS PULLING YOU, THE BATTLE IS GOING ON. 00:27:30.58\00:27:33.92 WHAT WAS THE DECIDING FACTOR? BECAUSE AS A YOUNG MAN RAISED IN 00:27:33.92\00:27:40.62 NEW YORK CITY, GANG FIGHTS, GUNS, ALL OF THAT STUFF, YOU GET 00:27:40.62\00:27:44.03 TO THE POINT WHERE YOU KNOW THE LORD IS CALLING YOU, BUT YOU 00:27:44.03\00:27:47.76 HAVE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU SAY, THAT'S IT. 00:27:47.76\00:27:51.13 >> I WAS WORKING AS A PERSONAL TRAINER, AND TEACHING BOOT CAMP, 00:27:51.13\00:27:55.80 AND THINGS OF THAT SORT, AND IN THE CLASS YOU HAVE TO PLAY 00:27:55.80\00:28:01.18 CERTAIN TYPE OF MUSIC. SO I WAS KIND OF CONVICTED ON 00:28:01.18\00:28:05.08 SOME OF THE MUSIC I WAS LISTENING TO ALREADY. 00:28:05.08\00:28:07.65 SO I LET THOSE GO, AND HELD ON TO THE MORE POSITIVE ARTISTS. 00:28:07.65\00:28:13.69 BUT I WOULD HAVE MY DEVOTIONS IN THE MORNING, AND THEN GO TEACH 00:28:13.69\00:28:18.29 THIS CLASS, AND HAVE THIS SONG RINGING IN MY HEAD. 00:28:18.29\00:28:22.20 AND SO I HAD TO MAKE A DECISION, AND ULTIMATELY AS I'M STILL 00:28:22.20\00:28:26.43 GOING, I WON'T DRINK TO GET DRUNK. 00:28:26.43\00:28:29.30 I'LL JUST HAVE ONE BEER, I JUST -- EVERYTHING JUST SEEMED 00:28:29.30\00:28:36.11 DIFFERENT. YOU ARE DRINKING, BUT YOU ARE 00:28:36.11\00:28:38.11 NOT ENJOYING IT ANYMORE. IT WAS ALMOST AS IF GOD REMOVED 00:28:38.11\00:28:43.82 THE VEIL, AND YOU REALLY SEE -- >> HE OPENED YOUR EYES. 00:28:43.82\00:28:47.19 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> THE WHOLE WORLD VIEW CHANGES. 00:28:47.19\00:28:50.13 >> YEAH, THE WHOLE WORLD VIEW CHANGES, AND I REMEMBER I 00:28:50.13\00:28:53.19 WAS -- THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I SHARED THIS, BUT I WAS GOING TO 00:28:53.19\00:28:56.97 A BIBLE COLLEGE DURING THIS TIME. 00:28:56.97\00:28:59.03 AND FOR MY BIRTHDAY, MY FRIENDS INVITED ME, AND THEY WANTED TO 00:28:59.03\00:29:03.91 CELEBRATE WITH ME. AND I'M GOING TO A FOUR MONTH 00:29:03.91\00:29:08.04 EVANGELISTIC SCHOOL, AND I KNEW IT WAS THE DEVIL TRYING TO WOO 00:29:08.04\00:29:14.38 ME BACK, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE A 00:29:14.38\00:29:18.65 SUCCESSFUL NIGHT WAS THERE. AND THERE WAS EVEN TEMPTATION OF 00:29:18.65\00:29:24.76 FORNICATION, AND IT NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE, AND I WAS LIKE, 00:29:24.76\00:29:27.03 I CAN'T. AND I HAD TO HAVE ONE OF THOSE 00:29:27.03\00:29:30.93 JOSEPH MOMENTS, WHERE I'M LIKE I CAN'T KEEP HOLDING ON TO THE 00:29:30.93\00:29:37.31 LITTLE THINGS AND STILL HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU. 00:29:37.31\00:29:41.21 IT WAS AT THAT POINT, THAT I REALIZED I HAVE TO BE FULL ON 00:29:41.21\00:29:45.68 TOWARDS GOD, SO THAT WAS KIND OF MY WAKING UP MOMENT, WHERE YOU 00:29:45.68\00:29:50.45 KIND OF SEE EVERYTHING FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH. 00:29:50.45\00:29:52.39 YOU ARE PUT IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU ARE READY TO THROW AWAY 00:29:52.39\00:29:56.36 EVERYTHING YOU JUST EXPERIENCED FOR A MOMENT OF PLEASURE, AND I 00:29:56.36\00:29:59.59 WAS LIKE, NO, I DIDN'T DO IT. SO THAT'S WHEN I MADE THE FINAL 00:29:59.59\00:30:03.37 DECISION TO MOVE FORWARD. >> HOW LONG AFTER THAT DID YOU 00:30:03.37\00:30:06.27 GET BAPTIZED? >> YEAH, I WAS WRESTLING WITH 00:30:06.27\00:30:09.14 THAT AS WELL, BECAUSE I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN THE DOCTRINES OF THE 00:30:09.14\00:30:14.28 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH, SO I WRESTLED WITH WHETHER OR NOT I-SHOULD BE BAPTIZED. 00:30:14.28\00:30:18.65 BUT IT WAS 2010 AFTER I GRADUATED FROM LIFE, THE 00:30:18.65\00:30:23.05 EVANGELISTIC SCHOOL DOWN IN FLORIDA THAT I MADE THE DECISION 00:30:23.05\00:30:25.32 TO BE BAPTIZED. AT THAT POINT I WAS LIKE, YOU 00:30:25.32\00:30:28.19 KNOW, IF I'M GOING TO GO ON THIS JOURNEY, I NEED TO MAKE A 00:30:28.19\00:30:33.53 RADICAL COMMITMENT, SO I -- I DECIDED TO GET BAPTIZED. 00:30:33.53\00:30:37.77 >> CLEAN SLATE. >> CLEAN SLATE. 00:30:37.77\00:30:39.50 >> WOW. SO THE LORD HAD -- YOU BOTH 00:30:39.50\00:30:42.44 HADN'T MET YET, BUT THE LORD WAS PREPARING FOR A RADICAL -- NOT 00:30:42.44\00:30:46.74 ONLY A RADICAL CHANGE IN YOUR LIFE, BUT A RADICAL DIRECTION. 00:30:46.74\00:30:54.45 OSWALD CHAMBER TALKS ABOUT THE REVERSIBLE PAST, THOR REVISABLE 00:30:54.45\00:31:04.79 FUTURE. HOW DID THE IDEA OF S.A.L.T. 00:31:04.79\00:31:07.03 COME TO YOU? YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU READ THE 00:31:07.03\00:31:13.64 SERMON ON THE MOUNT. >> YEAH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT 00:31:13.64\00:31:19.41 STOOD OUT TO ME, DO NOT PRAY IN VEIN REPETITION, THAT STOOD OUT 00:31:19.41\00:31:25.48 TO ME. BUT AS I -- YOU KNOW, I 00:31:25.48\00:31:29.88 BASICALLY HAD -- QUIT MY JOB FOR THE SABBATH I WAS MAKING 00:31:29.88\00:31:33.46 LIKE -- CLOSE TO 50 WITH COMMISSION, 22-YEAR-OLD KID, YOU 00:31:33.46\00:31:37.13 KNOW, NO COLLEGE EDUCATION, I'M LIKE, WEARING THE SUIT GOING TO 00:31:37.13\00:31:41.46 MY DESK EVERY DAY OR WHATEVER. I FELT LIKE I HAD REACHED A 00:31:41.46\00:31:45.70 CERTAIN POINT I WAS HAPPY ABOUT, BUT THEY STARTED TO MAKE ME WORK 00:31:45.70\00:31:49.24 ON THE SABBATH AND THAT WAS A HUGE BATTLE FOR ME, AND IN 00:31:49.24\00:31:53.01 FEBRUARY OF -- OF 2011 IS WHEN I DECIDED TO QUIT, AND WITH $500 00:31:53.01\00:31:59.21 IN MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT, I WAS ALREADY ON MY OWN. 00:31:59.21\00:32:02.88 I GREW SO MUCH IN THE SIX-MONTH PERIOD, BUT IT WAS THEN, THAT I 00:32:02.88\00:32:07.56 WAS LIKE, OKAY, GOD, I TRY TO APPLY TO OTHER PLACES IN THE 00:32:07.56\00:32:15.96 SAME FIELD, AND NO ONE WOULD GIVE ME THE SABBATH OFF. 00:32:15.96\00:32:20.14 WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO? SOMETHING HAPPENED AS WE WERE 00:32:20.14\00:32:25.24 DOING OUTREACH DOWNTOWN, AND IT HAPPENED TO BE WITH A HOMELESS 00:32:25.24\00:32:30.41 WOMAN. AND SHE BASICALLY PROPHETIZED 00:32:30.41\00:32:35.82 OVER ME AND SOME FRIENDS, CONFIRMING A PRAYER THAT WE 00:32:35.82\00:32:42.09 PRAYED PRIOR. AND SHE CONFIRMED THE SAME WORDS 00:32:42.09\00:32:45.69 THAT WE PRAYED SIX HOURS PRIOR BACK TO US. 00:32:45.69\00:32:48.83 AND ONE OF THEM WAS, GOD, I THINK YOU ARE CALLING ME TO BE A 00:32:48.83\00:32:52.90 PASTOR OF SOME SORT. AND SO THEN I WAS LIKE, GOD, I 00:32:52.90\00:32:57.17 HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL. SO I'M LIKE OKAY, TO BE A 00:32:57.17\00:33:01.44 PASTOR, I HAVE TO GO TO SCHOOL, RIGHT? 00:33:01.44\00:33:03.95 AND I START THINKING IN THE FUTURE, WHEN I GET THIS DEGREE, 00:33:03.95\00:33:08.08 I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO REACH SO MANY PEOPLE, AND I'M THINKING 00:33:08.08\00:33:11.55 ABOUT THE FUTURE. BUT AS I WAS STUDYING JOHN 00:33:11.55\00:33:17.76 CHAPTER 4, THE WOMAN AT THE WELL, THE DISCIPLES DIDN'T BRING 00:33:17.76\00:33:26.67 ANY PEOPLE FROM THE CITY BACK TO CHRIST. 00:33:26.67\00:33:29.57 AND THE REASON IS BECAUSE THEY HAD THEIR EYES FIXED ON A FUTURE 00:33:29.57\00:33:34.14 TIME. WHEN THAT TIME COMES WE'RE GOING 00:33:34.14\00:33:36.31 TO DO SO MANY GREAT THINGS FOR GOD. 00:33:36.31\00:33:38.35 SO I STARTED ASKING MYSELF WHAT CAN I DO NOW? 00:33:38.35\00:33:41.12 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO I STARTED TO LOOK AT WAYS 00:33:41.12\00:33:45.25 TO SUPPORT THE CHURCH. WHAT CAN I DO TO REALLY HELP 00:33:45.25\00:33:50.46 SUPPORT OUR LOCAL CHURCHES, AND THAT'S WHEN THE IDEA FOR 00:33:50.46\00:33:54.00 S.A.L.T. CAME. AND WE CAME TOGETHER. 00:33:54.00\00:33:56.10 WE PRAYED FOR A NAME AND S.A.L.T., THE ACRONYM WAS 00:33:56.10\00:34:00.44 SERVICE AND LOVE TOGETHER. >> SERVICE AND LOVE TOGETHER. 00:34:00.44\00:34:02.87 >> YEP. >> I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ON WHAT 00:34:02.87\00:34:05.61 YOU JUST SAID, A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTENING AND WATCHING, 00:34:05.61\00:34:08.81 SOMETIMES WE ARE KNOCKING ON DOORS THAT GOD HAS LOCKED. 00:34:08.81\00:34:13.72 AND WE GET FRUSTRATED, BECAUSE WE SAY, WELL, WHY COULDN'T I 00:34:13.72\00:34:18.12 FIND A JOB THAT WILL GIVE ME THE SABBATH OFF IN THE SAME FIELD, 00:34:18.12\00:34:22.89 AND HAVING SOME OF THE SIMILAR -- THIS IS WHAT I MIGHT 00:34:22.89\00:34:27.00 REFER TO AS A VICARIOUS MOMENT, BECAUSE I'M HEARING MY LIFE ALL 00:34:27.00\00:34:33.47 OVER AGAIN. INSURANCE COMPANY SAYS IT'S TIME 00:34:33.47\00:34:37.24 TO WORK ON THE SABBATH. >> I WAS IN FINANCE TOO. 00:34:37.24\00:34:40.64 >> I SAID YOU CAN SCHEDULE ME, BUT I'M NOT SHOWING UP. 00:34:40.64\00:34:44.05 SCHEDULED ME, I DIDN'T SHOW UP. AND THEY SAID YOU HAVE ONE MORE 00:34:44.05\00:34:49.95 CHANCE. AND THEY SCHEDULED ME AGAIN AND 00:34:49.95\00:34:52.15 I GOT FIRED. SO I LOST TWO JOBS FOR NOT 00:34:52.15\00:34:55.22 WORKING ON THE SABBATH, BUT WHEN THE LORD CLOSES A DOOR, DON'T 00:34:55.22\00:34:59.63 TRY TO KICK IT DOWN, BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT OPENING, HE DOESN'T 00:34:59.63\00:35:03.97 WANT YOU TO WALK THROUGH IT. HE HAS OTHER PLANS. 00:35:03.97\00:35:07.47 AND ISN'T IT WONDERFUL TO KNOW HE HAS A PLAN FOR US. 00:35:07.47\00:35:10.37 HE SAYS I KNOW THE THOUGHTS AND PLANS I HAVE FO YOU. 00:35:10.37\00:35:15.31 SO S.A.L.T. IS WHAT THE LORD LEAD YOU TO. 00:35:15.31\00:35:19.05 AND WHEN THE S.A.L.T. GOT STARTED -- YOU GUYS DIDN'T MEET 00:35:19.05\00:35:22.92 YET? >> UH-HUH. 00:35:22.92\00:35:23.75 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> IN THE MEANTIME WHAT JOURNEY 00:35:23.75\00:35:26.49 WAS YOUR LIFE TAKING IN THE THREE YEARS THAT S.A.L.T. WAS 00:35:26.49\00:35:30.99 GOING BEFORE YOU GET ERIC. >> YEAH, AFTER I GRADUATED FROM 00:35:30.99\00:35:34.86 THE BIBLE COLLEGE, I TOLD THE LORD THERE'S NO WAY I CAN 00:35:34.86\00:35:40.77 CONTINUE MY GROWTH AND RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU IF I STAY 00:35:40.77\00:35:45.37 IN ORLANDO, I KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE, SO THE LORD OPENED UP 00:35:45.37\00:35:49.84 THE DOOR FOR ME TO GO TO CALIFORNIA. 00:35:49.84\00:35:52.75 I WORKED FO ISIU FOR JESUS DURING THAT TIME. 00:35:52.75\00:35:56.48 AND IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THE LORD -- ALL OF THE FRIENDS THAT 00:35:56.48\00:36:00.22 I HAD TO LET GO OF, THE LORD REPLACED IT WITH A NEW SET OF 00:36:00.22\00:36:04.93 FRIENDS THAT WAS ABLE TO ENCOURAGE ME, AND WE WERE ABLE 00:36:04.93\00:36:08.06 TO SHARPEN EACH OTHER -- WITH THE WORD OF GOD. 00:36:08.06\00:36:10.63 AND THEN I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL TO WORK AS A BIBLE WORKER, SLASH 00:36:10.63\00:36:17.14 CHAPLAIN AND BIBLE TEACHER AT HERITAGE ACADEMY IN TENNESSEE 00:36:17.14\00:36:22.68 WHERE I MET THE CASPER LATER DOWN THE ROAD THAT YOU ARE 00:36:22.68\00:36:25.91 FAMILIAR WITH. >> YES. 00:36:25.91\00:36:27.38 >> I'M THERE FOR A FEW YEARS, THE LORD IS WORKING, BUT I 00:36:27.38\00:36:31.25 ALWAYS WENT BACK TO ORLANDO AND VISITED DURING THE SUMMER, SO 00:36:31.25\00:36:35.66 ERIC AND I ALWAYS MET EACH OTHER -- 00:36:35.66\00:36:37.63 >> CASUALLY. >> CASUALLY, BUT NOTHING THAT I 00:36:37.63\00:36:41.23 FELT COMPELLED TO STAY IN ORLANDO. 00:36:41.23\00:36:44.83 SO THAT'S WHERE I WAS AT. I WAS WORKING AS A CHAPLAIN IN 00:36:44.83\00:36:50.87 TENNESSEE DURING THAT TIME THAT S.A.L.T. WAS BEING ESTABLISHED. 00:36:50.87\00:36:53.48 >> SO WITH ALL OF THIS MONEY IN THE BANK, AND ALL OF THE 00:36:53.48\00:36:57.58 RESOURCES YOU NEEDED TO GET S.A.L.T. STARTED, TELL US WHEN 00:36:57.58\00:37:01.05 THE LORD MADE IT REALLY CLEAR TO YOU, THIS IS WHAT I WANT YOU TO 00:37:01.05\00:37:04.65 DO? YOU TALKED ABOUT SEEING A NEED. 00:37:04.65\00:37:07.26 TALK ABOUT THAT. >> YEAH, SO -- YOU KNOW, AND LET 00:37:07.26\00:37:10.93 ME MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF 00:37:10.93\00:37:14.63 PEOPLE -- AND WE'RE SEEING THIS A LOT IN ORLANDO, SPECIALLY, 00:37:14.63\00:37:18.83 THEY SEE ISSUES WITH THE CHURCH. THEY SEE THIS IS GOING ON WITH 00:37:18.83\00:37:22.00 THE CHURCH. THIS IS GOING ON WITH THE 00:37:22.00\00:37:24.57 CHURCH. WE JUST HEARD I'M NOT GIVING MY 00:37:24.57\00:37:30.75 TITHE TO THE CHURCH. AND SO AT THEN OF THE DAY, WHAT 00:37:30.75\00:37:33.98 ARE WE DOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE? 00:37:33.98\00:37:36.32 IF WE ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CHURCH, WHAT ARE WE 00:37:36.32\00:37:40.09 DOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO MAKE IT BETTER? 00:37:40.09\00:37:42.69 >> RIGHT. >> TO IMPROVE IT. 00:37:42.69\00:37:44.96 SO AS I WAS NOTICING SOME THINGS, ONE THING IN PARTICULAR, 00:37:44.96\00:37:48.20 I NOTICED THAT I HAD LEARNED THERE WERE TWO CONFERENCES IN 00:37:48.20\00:37:54.84 ORLANDO. FLORIDA CONFERENCE AND 00:37:54.84\00:37:57.81 SOUTHEASTERN CONFERENCE. AND I NOTICED THAT SOUTHEASTERN 00:37:57.81\00:38:01.21 CONFERENCE HAD THEIR OWN REPRESENTS, FLORIDA CONFERENCE 00:38:01.21\00:38:05.15 HAD THEIR OWN EVENTS. BUT THERE WAS NOTHING TO BRING 00:38:05.15\00:38:09.22 THE PEOPLE TOGETHER. THAT WAS ONE. 00:38:09.22\00:38:11.12 SO THAT LACK OF UNITY. AND EVEN CHURCHES -- AND, YOU 00:38:11.12\00:38:14.99 KNOW, I WON'T SAY NAMES, BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE IT'S VERY 00:38:14.99\00:38:18.89 DIFFICULT FOR CHURCHES TO WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE -- MAYBE THEY 00:38:18.89\00:38:22.26 ARE AFRAID OF LOSING THEIR YOUNG ADULTS -- 00:38:22.26\00:38:26.27 >> TERRITORIAL. >> YEAH. 00:38:26.27\00:38:27.87 SO UNITY WAS A MAIN THING I WANTED TO ADDRESS. 00:38:27.87\00:38:31.61 ANOTHER THING WAS THE LACK OF PRACTICAL OUTREACH PROJECTS. 00:38:31.61\00:38:36.71 I DIDN'T SEE MUCH OF THAT. SO I WAS LIKE, OKAY, LET'S 00:38:36.71\00:38:41.18 CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED IN PRACTICAL 00:38:41.18\00:38:45.15 COMMUNITY OUTREACH. THE THIRD THING WAS IF THERE 00:38:45.15\00:38:48.39 WERE COMMUNITY OUTREACH PROJECTS, IT WASN'T CONSISTENT, 00:38:48.39\00:38:52.99 AND THERE WERE NO RELATIONSHIPS BEING BUILT. 00:38:52.99\00:38:55.73 WE NEED TO CREATE RELATIONSHIPS AND FRIENDSHIPS WITH THE PEOPLE 00:38:55.73\00:39:00.40 WE ARE REACHING, GENUINE FRIENDSHIPS, AND MEET THE NEEDS 00:39:00.40\00:39:04.11 OF THESE PEOPLE AS WELL TO REALLY SHOW WHO CHRIST IS. 00:39:04.11\00:39:08.44 >> NOT JUST THESE LARGE REPRESENTS. 00:39:08.44\00:39:12.55 PEOPLE WORK HARD FOR FOUR WEEKS AND THEN PEOPLE SAY, I'M GLAD 00:39:12.55\00:39:16.42 THAT IS OVER. AND THEN THEY GO BACK TO 00:39:16.42\00:39:20.46 COMATOSE. >> EXACTLY. 00:39:20.46\00:39:22.12 >> WHICH GOD NEVER INTENDED. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 00:39:22.12\00:39:24.59 >> SO S.A.L.T. IS DEVELOPING NOW, AND SO YOU ARE SEEING ALL 00:39:24.59\00:39:28.00 OF THESE THINGS, PEOPLE COMPLAINING ON ONE END, BUT 00:39:28.00\00:39:31.73 DOING NOTHING TO BETTER IT. TERRITORIALISM, PEOPLE HAVE 00:39:31.73\00:39:36.40 THEIR OWN CLICKS IN THE CHURCHES, BUT THERE IS A GREAT 00:39:36.40\00:39:39.47 NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, AND S.A.L.T., GOD IS STIRRING THE 00:39:39.47\00:39:44.25 POT IN YOUR LIFE. >> RIGHT. 00:39:44.25\00:39:45.91 RIGHT. AND ONE -- I THINK ANOTHER 00:39:45.91\00:39:47.88 IMPORTANT THING THAT WE SAW WAS A LACK OF YOUNG ADULTS IN THE 00:39:47.88\00:39:52.12 CHURCH, AND THAT'S CONSTANTLY SPOKEN ABOUT FROM ALL DIFFERENT 00:39:52.12\00:39:55.42 PLACES, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WAS, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A 00:39:55.42\00:40:00.76 CHURCH THAT HAS THREE YOUNG ADULTS, ANOTHER WITH FIVE, 00:40:00.76\00:40:05.43 ANOTHER WITH SEVEN, WHAT VENT IS BRINGING THEM ALL TOGETHER IN 00:40:05.43\00:40:09.94 ONE PLACE SO THEY CAN CREATE UNITY WITH EACH OTHER. 00:40:09.94\00:40:16.44 WHEN YOU GO TO OUR HOMELESS OUTREACH, THERE ARE TEN 00:40:16.44\00:40:24.39 DIFFERENT CHURCHES REPRESENTED, AT LEAST. 00:40:24.39\00:40:26.59 SO YOU CAN BRING YOUR FRIEND FROM WORK OR SCHOOL, AND THEY 00:40:26.59\00:40:29.42 CAN SEE A YOUNG ADULT COMMUNITY. WE HAVE A NETWORK OF SMALL 00:40:29.42\00:40:33.29 GROUPS AS WELL, AND THEY CAN SEE THE 20, 25 YOUNG ADULTS COMING 00:40:33.29\00:40:38.40 TOGETHER TO STUDY THE WORD TOGETHER, BUT WITHOUT 00:40:38.40\00:40:42.54 THAT -- YOU KNOW, S.A.L.T. IS A SUPPORTING MINISTRY OF THE 00:40:42.54\00:40:46.54 ADVENTIST CHURCH, SO WE'RE ABLE TO BRING PEOPLE FROM ALL 00:40:46.54\00:40:51.31 DIFFERENT CULTURES, CHURCHES TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE, NOT JUST 00:40:51.31\00:40:55.38 TO HANG OUT, AND NOT EVEN JUST TO WORSHIP, BUT TO DO OUTREACH 00:40:55.38\00:41:00.96 TOGETHER. >> SO YOU ARE A SUPPORTING 00:41:00.96\00:41:03.36 MINISTRY? >> YEAH. 00:41:03.36\00:41:04.06 >> THAT'S WONDERFUL TO MENTION. BECAUSE PEOPLE LISTEN TO THE 00:41:04.06\00:41:08.30 PROGRAM AND THINK INDEPENDENT MINISTRY THERE, INDEPENDENT 00:41:08.30\00:41:14.87 MINISTRY THERE. AND 3ABN IS ALSO A SUPPORTING 00:41:14.87\00:41:20.41 MINISTRY OF THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. 00:41:20.41\00:41:27.72 AND YOU FUNCTION ALL THROUGH DONATIONS. 00:41:27.72\00:41:31.52 >> RIGHT. >> NOW AT WHAT POINT DID YOU 00:41:31.52\00:41:35.39 SAY, THIS NEEDS TO BE MY DEDICATION IN MY LIFE WORK AT 00:41:35.39\00:41:39.03 THIS POINT IN MY LIFE? >> YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I 00:41:39.03\00:41:45.93 REALIZED AS I GOT MORE AND MORE INVOLVED WITH THE MINISTRY, AND 00:41:45.93\00:41:49.84 AS MORE AND MORE THINGS KEPT HAPPENING, MY TALENTS THAT WERE 00:41:49.84\00:41:54.04 USED IN THE WORLD, THEY NEEDED TO COME OVER AND BE USED FOR 00:41:54.04\00:41:57.75 GOD. AND IF I DIDN'T USE THE FULL 00:41:57.75\00:42:00.82 POTENTIAL OF WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER FOR GOD FOR HIM THEN THE 00:42:00.82\00:42:05.15 ENEMY IS USING IT. THEN IT COULD BE -- YOU KNOW 00:42:05.15\00:42:07.79 WHAT I'M SAYING? SO I -- I HAD TO -- I HAVE TO 00:42:07.79\00:42:11.66 PUT MY ALL INTO THIS, NOT -- NOT -- NOT FOR MYSELF, 00:42:11.66\00:42:15.66 BUT IT'S FOR GOD AND FOR HIS GLORY, IN ORDER -- THE PASSION 00:42:15.66\00:42:21.20 FOR WINNING SOULS ULTIMATELY, IS THE REASON WHY I WANT TO PUT MY 00:42:21.20\00:42:26.24 ALL INTO IT. BECAUSE THIS METHOD OF 00:42:26.24\00:42:30.08 EVANGELISM, I'M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT IN SPREADING THAT IT'S 00:42:30.08\00:42:33.35 ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS. IT'S ABOUT MEETING THEIR NEEDS, 00:42:33.35\00:42:36.82 WINNING THEIR CONFIDENCE, AND THEN BIDDING THM TO FOLLOW 00:42:36.82\00:42:40.96 CHRIST. SO MANY EVANGELISTIC EFFORTS ARE 00:42:40.96\00:42:43.59 OUT THERE WITHOUT CREATING THAT FRIENDSHIP, YOU KNOW? 00:42:43.59\00:42:46.36 >> UH-HUH. >> AND WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO 00:42:46.36\00:42:50.43 CHANGE. >> OKAY. 00:42:50.43\00:42:51.10 LET ME BRING -- I'M GOING TO BRING LO-AMMI IN HERE IN JUST A 00:42:51.10\00:42:56.44 MOMENT. YOU MENTIONED THE WORD, WHY. 00:42:56.44\00:42:58.97 AND YOU ANSWERED IT, THE PASSION FOR SOULS. 00:42:58.97\00:43:02.44 IF YOU DON'T ANSWER THE WHY YOU DO WHAT YOU DO. 00:43:02.44\00:43:08.78 YOU JUST BECOME A WHAT YOU DO, BUT NOT WHY YOU DO IT. 00:43:08.78\00:43:13.89 AND THIS IS ALMOST -- IN BUSINESSES, FAITH COMMUNITIES. 00:43:13.89\00:43:17.49 PEOPLE SAY WHAT DO YOU DO? THEY DON'T SAY WHY DO YOU DO IT? 00:43:17.49\00:43:22.20 WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A LIVING? WE DON'T SAY WHY DO YOU DO THAT? 00:43:22.20\00:43:26.30 WHEN YOU BEGIN WITH THE WHY, YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH AN ANSWER? 00:43:26.30\00:43:31.51 WHY AM I A CHRISTIAN, WHEN YOU BEGIN WITH WHY, THEN YOU CAN GO 00:43:31.51\00:43:36.75 BACK TO THIS IS WHY, AND THIS IS HOW I BECAME A CHRISTIAN. 00:43:36.75\00:43:41.48 IT ISN'T WHAT I BELIEVE, IT'S BECAUSE OF WHAT I DO WHAT I DO. 00:43:41.48\00:43:46.25 AND THAT WAS WONDERFUL. AND I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT. 00:43:46.25\00:43:48.79 I WAS THINKING IS ERIC GOING TO SAY WHY DOES HE DO WHAT HE DOES. 00:43:48.79\00:43:54.96 THE PASSION FOR SOULS. THE PASSION FOR RELATIONSHIPS 00:43:54.96\00:43:58.13 THAT WILL LAST. >> RIGHT. 00:43:58.13\00:44:00.67 >> SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY, THE LORD SAID HEY, I HAVE BEEN 00:44:00.67\00:44:06.24 WORKING ON LO-AMMI, NOW GUYS NEED TO MEET. 00:44:06.24\00:44:09.91 HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? >> WELL, IT WAS INTERESTING, THE 00:44:09.91\00:44:13.68 MAJORITY OF FRIENDS WE HAVE WITHIN MINISTRY, THE CONVERSION 00:44:13.68\00:44:17.15 STARTED TO TAKE PLACE ABOUT 2009, 2010. 00:44:17.15\00:44:22.06 EVERY SINGLE PERSON WE TALK TO, THEIR CONVERSION WAS AROUND THAT 00:44:22.06\00:44:27.66 TIME FRAME. BUT AT THIS POINT, I WAS LACK IN 00:44:27.66\00:44:30.43 ORLANDO, AND I WAS WORKING WITH -- FOR GYC EVANGELISM, I 00:44:30.43\00:44:37.07 WAS IN CHARGE OF SERVICE PROJECTS. 00:44:37.07\00:44:39.54 GYC WAS GOING TO -- WAS GOING TO START DOING SERVICE PROJECTS 00:44:39.54\00:44:44.61 FEEDING THE HOMELESS AND DOING -- WHAT I SAY A 58 MODEL 00:44:44.61\00:44:50.35 OF EVANGELISM, AND ERIC WAS THERE REPRESENTING S.A.L.T. AT 00:44:50.35\00:44:54.59 ONE OF THE LOCAL CHURCHES, SO HE WAS THERE, AND I WAS THERE 00:44:54.59\00:44:58.99 REPRESENTING GYC, AND WE KIND OF HIT IT OFF, AND THEN WE WENT TO 00:44:58.99\00:45:05.83 TACO BELL AFTER THE AY AND WE HIT IT OFF, AND WE ALWAYS TALKED 00:45:05.83\00:45:09.87 ABOUT WORKING TOGETHER, BUT IT NEVER WORKED OUT THE WAY WE 00:45:09.87\00:45:14.08 WANTED IT TO UNTIL LAST YEAR. AND IT WAS PERFECT FIT, PERFECT 00:45:14.08\00:45:18.41 TIMING FOR US TO COLLABORATE, AND WORK TOGETHER. 00:45:18.41\00:45:28.16 >> WHEN DID YOU SAY THIS IS SOMETHING I CAN COMMITMENT TO? 00:45:28.16\00:45:31.86 >> YEAH, I HAVE HAD THE -OPPORTUNITY TO WORK AS A CHAPLAIN AND BIBLE WORKER 00:45:31.86\00:45:37.00 THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, I INTERNED WITH REVELATION OF HOPE, AND SAW 00:45:37.00\00:45:40.80 THE IMPACT THAT HE HAD -- JUST THE SERIES -- THE IMPACT THE 00:45:40.80\00:45:45.14 SERIES HAD IN HAWAII, SO I JUST FINISHED UP MY STINT IN MICHIGAN 00:45:45.14\00:45:51.08 AS A CAP CHAPLAIN AT GREAT LAKES ACADEMY. 00:45:51.08\00:45:56.79 AND THE LORD SAID GO BACK HOME. AND I WAS LIKE, MAN, IT HAS BEEN 00:45:56.79\00:46:02.79 SIX YEARS SINCE I HAVE BEEN HOME. 00:46:02.79\00:46:05.13 AND THEN I TALKED TO ERIC, AND I WAS LIKE, ERIC, MY PASSION IS 00:46:05.13\00:46:12.77 EVANGELISM, GOD HAS GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, BUT THERE 00:46:12.77\00:46:17.47 WAS NOHING TO CONNECT WITH PEOPLE TOO. 00:46:17.47\00:46:19.97 IT WAS LIKE I WAS A ONE-MAN SHOW, AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO 00:46:19.97\00:46:24.08 REPRESENT SOMETHING THAT IS GREATER AND BIGGER THAN ME. 00:46:24.08\00:46:26.65 SO WHEN I TALKED TO ERIC, ERIC IS LIKE, MAN, THE ONE THING 00:46:26.65\00:46:31.05 WE'RE DOING IS ALL OF THIS SERVICE, BUT WE'RE NOT PLUGGING 00:46:31.05\00:46:38.06 INTO ANYTHING SO WE CAN HARVEST THEM INTO THE KINGDOM. 00:46:38.06\00:46:43.03 SO I'M A HARVEST DIRECTOR. >> SO DO YOU WORK IN THE 00:46:43.03\00:46:49.20 SPRING -- >> ALL YEAR-ROUND. 00:46:49.20\00:46:52.51 [ LAUGHTER ] >> SO THE PLAN WAS TO -- ALL OF 00:46:52.51\00:46:55.21 THE MINISTRIES WE HAVE, FROM OUR HOMELESS HOSPITAL MINISTRY TO 00:46:55.21\00:47:00.98 OUR KIDS MINISTRY, WAS LEADING TO ONE EVENT WHERE WE COULD 00:47:00.98\00:47:07.22 CONTACT THEM TO THEIR LOCAL CHURCHES, SO WE CAN BE AN ASSET 00:47:07.22\00:47:10.63 TO THE CHURCHES, AND SEE THE KINGDOM GROW FROM THERE. 00:47:10.63\00:47:16.00 >> THAT'S INTERESTING. BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMS WE LIGHT 00:47:16.00\00:47:18.87 THE FLAME. WE GET PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT 00:47:18.87\00:47:21.24 SOMETHING, BUT IT'S LIKE A LONG RACE AND THERE IS NO FINISH 00:47:21.24\00:47:26.17 LINE. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE 00:47:26.17\00:47:30.68 PERPETUAL BIBLE STUDIERS. BUT THEY NEVER GOT HARVESTED. 00:47:30.68\00:47:36.28 SO S.A.L.T. IS ABOUT PLANTING SEEDS AND WONDERFUL PROGRAMS, 00:47:36.28\00:47:39.62 BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE A GOAL IN MIND. 00:47:39.62\00:47:42.39 >> EXACTLY. >> GOD -- YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE 00:47:42.39\00:47:45.39 SAYS ONE PLANTS -- PAUL [ INAUDIBLE ] BUT GOD GAVE THE 00:47:45.39\00:47:50.77 INCREASE. >> UH-HUH. 00:47:50.77\00:47:51.50 >> SO THE TIMING OF THE INCREASE FOR THE HARVEST IS IN GOD'S 00:47:51.50\00:47:55.74 DIRECTION, BUT YOU MUST DO WHAT GOD HAS CALLED YOU TO DO, TO 00:47:55.74\00:47:59.44 PLANT AND WATER. SO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU DO THAT 00:47:59.44\00:48:01.78 TOGETHER. BECAUSE YOU WENT BACK HOME -- I 00:48:01.78\00:48:04.11 WAS SMILING EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM FOR A PARTICULAR REASON, 00:48:04.11\00:48:08.65 BECAUSE YOU SAID THE LORD HAD TO TAKE YOU AWAY TO GET YOU GOING. 00:48:08.65\00:48:12.65 AND YOU WERE IN ORLANDO, AND HE TOOK YOU WHERE? 00:48:12.65\00:48:15.82 >> RIGHT, TO CALIFORNIA. [ LAUGHTER ] 00:48:15.82\00:48:18.99 >> VERY RARELY DO I MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT MYSELF BECAUSE 00:48:18.99\00:48:23.00 IT IS ABOUT THE GUEST, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY PARALLELS 00:48:23.00\00:48:27.10 THAT -- I'M USING AN OLD TERM -- THAT ARE FLIPPING ME 00:48:27.10\00:48:33.41 OUT. BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I LIVED IN 00:48:33.41\00:48:36.81 ORLANDO, AND THEY SAID LORD, WE WANT TO BE IN MINISTRY, BUT 00:48:36.81\00:48:41.65 ANYWHERE BUT CALIFORNIA. AND HE TOOK US THERE. 00:48:41.65\00:48:47.12 [ LAUGHTER ] >> HAVE YOU NOTICED, THOUGH, 00:48:47.12\00:48:49.82 THAT IT IS HARD TO GROW AROUND THE FAMILIAR PEOPLE. 00:48:49.82\00:48:52.33 >> IT'S TRUE. >> BECAUSE THEY REMEMBER WHO YOU 00:48:52.33\00:48:57.33 WERE, NOT WHO GOD WANTS YOU TO BECOME? 00:48:57.33\00:49:00.60 HOW WAS THAT? >> CALIFORNIA WAS A DIFFERENT 00:49:00.60\00:49:03.51 GROUP OF PEOPLE. I STILL HAVE PEOPLE THAT I 00:49:03.51\00:49:06.74 CONTACT WITH ON AT LEAST MONTHLY BASIS, BUT IT'S A VERY SECULAR 00:49:06.74\00:49:12.38 MIND SET, YOU KIND OF TRAIN TO -- WHEN YOU CONNECT WITH 00:49:12.38\00:49:16.18 PEOPLE, THEY ALREADY HAVE SOME BELIEF IN GOD, AND WHEN YOU 00:49:16.18\00:49:19.12 KNOCK ON THE DOOR, DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD, NO? 00:49:19.12\00:49:24.26 YOU DON'T? AND THAT HAPPENS MORE AND MORE. 00:49:24.26\00:49:26.73 SO WHAT THE LORD WAS TEACHING ME IN CALIFORNIA IS HE WASN'T 00:49:26.73\00:49:31.60 NECESSARILY PREPARING ME TO EVANGELIZE THE SOULS IN THE 00:49:31.60\00:49:36.94 COMMUNITY, BUT THE SEE DYNAMICS OF THE CHURCH, YOU KNOW, THE 00:49:36.94\00:49:41.14 LABELS THAT WE SOMETIMES USE, AND IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE 00:49:41.14\00:49:46.35 I'M LIKE, LORD WHY AM I HERE? BECAUSE I WAS PASSIONATE AND I'M 00:49:46.35\00:49:52.02 TRYING TO TEACH IT, AND THERE'S PUSH BACK FROM EVERYWHERE I'M 00:49:52.02\00:49:58.19 TURNING, CONSERVATIVES, LIBERALS -- 00:49:58.19\00:50:00.90 >> EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. >> YEAH. 00:50:00.90\00:50:02.96 I JUST WANT TO SEE YOUNG PEOPLE GIVE THEIR HEARTS TO JESUS, AND 00:50:02.96\00:50:07.20 NOW YOU ARE TELLING MOVIE TO GO THROUGH THESE LOOPS. 00:50:07.20\00:50:10.17 IT WAS ALL OF THE POLITICS THAT I BELIEVE THE LORD PREPARED ME 00:50:10.17\00:50:16.98 TO DEAL WITH AS I MATURED. SO MY EXPERIENCE IN CALIFORNIA 00:50:16.98\00:50:22.25 WAS THE WILDERNESS EXPERIENCE AS MOSES HAD, AND THE LORD REFINED 00:50:22.25\00:50:27.59 ME, AND THE HE PREPARED ME TO BE A CHAPLAIN AT VARIOUS PLACES, 00:50:27.59\00:50:33.16 AND THEN HE LEAD ME BACK TO ORLANDO. 00:50:33.16\00:50:36.10 I'M MORE BETTER PREPARED TO DEAL WITH THE POLITICS THAN I DID 00:50:36.10\00:50:40.60 BEFORE. THAT'S WHAT THE LORD SHOWED ME 00:50:40.60\00:50:42.54 IN CALIFORNIA. THEY ARE VERY UNIQUE PEOPLE, 00:50:42.54\00:50:46.94 THEY ARE KIND OF LAX. >> YEAH, CALIFORNIA IS A 00:50:46.94\00:50:52.78 PERPETUAL -- FOR THE MOST PART CALIFORNIA IS A CONSTANT MOVING 00:50:52.78\00:50:56.75 ENVIRONMENT, STARBUCKS, MOVIE HERE, MALL THERE, AND THESE ARE 00:50:56.75\00:51:01.26 NOT BLANKET STATEMENTS BECAUSE WE LIVED IN CALIFORNIA FOR A 00:51:01.26\00:51:04.66 WHILE, BUT IT IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM THE NORTHEAST AND THE 00:51:04.66\00:51:07.46 SOUTHEAST AND THE MIDWEST, EVERY PLACE HAS ITS OWN CULTURE, BUT 00:51:07.46\00:51:11.73 THE ONE THING THAT IS TRUE ABOUT EVERYWHERE YOU GO IS THERE ARE 00:51:11.73\00:51:16.54 PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE REACHED FOR CHRIST. 00:51:16.54\00:51:19.31 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO THE LORD BRINGS YOU 00:51:19.31\00:51:23.91 TOGETHER, AND WHERE DOES HE TAKE YOU FROM THERE? 00:51:23.91\00:51:26.85 >> YEAH, AS HE MENTIONED THE HARVEST DEPARTMENT WAS CREATED. 00:51:26.85\00:51:31.59 WE HAD DONE AN EVANGELISTIC SERIES TWO YEARS PRIOR, WHICH WE 00:51:31.59\00:51:36.19 DID RIGHT NEXT TO THE SECTION 8 COMPLEX THAT WE HAD BEEN 00:51:36.19\00:51:40.56 MINISTERING TO THE KIDS AND FAMILIES THERE, AND THERE WERE 00:51:40.56\00:51:45.10 FIVE SOULS THAT WERE BAPTIZED FROM THAT SMALL SERIES THAT WE 00:51:45.10\00:51:51.81 DID. IT WAS A SMALL SERIES, BUT THERE 00:51:51.81\00:51:54.58 NEEDED TO BE A PARTICULAR PERSON, YOU KNOW, TO FIT THAT 00:51:54.58\00:51:57.75 ROLE. SO ANYWAY -- SO THEN WE TALKED 00:51:57.75\00:52:00.15 AND THAT ENDED UP HAPPENING -- THAT CONNECTION 00:52:00.15\00:52:02.85 HAPPENED, AND SO -- I MEAN FROM HERE, WE HAVE SERIES COMING UP 00:52:02.85\00:52:09.89 ON JUNE 30TH IS WHEN IT'S STARTING. 00:52:09.89\00:52:12.83 WE'RE WORKING ON RAISING THE REST OF THE FUNDS FOR THAT. 00:52:12.83\00:52:15.70 BUT WE'RE CREATING -- RIGHT NOW THE BIG PUSH THIS YEAR IS 00:52:15.70\00:52:19.93 CREATING PROGRAMS THAT -- THAT CAN BE MEASURED. 00:52:19.93\00:52:23.51 BECAUSE HAD WE SEEN SOULS COME TO CHRIST AS A RESULT FROM 00:52:23.51\00:52:26.44 OUR -- MAYBE THE LEADER'S PERSONAL MINISTRIES WITH THE 00:52:26.44\00:52:29.71 PEOPLE WE'RE INTERACTING WITH, OR THE VOLUNTEERS EVEN, YOU 00:52:29.71\00:52:33.95 KNOW, YES, WE HAVE. BUT IT HASN'T BEEN IN A 00:52:33.95\00:52:37.39 MEASURABLE WAY. >> RIGHT. 00:52:37.39\00:52:38.55 >> SO DOING SOMETHING LIKE AN EVANGELISTIC SERIES EVERY YEAR, 00:52:38.55\00:52:44.46 HELPS US MEASURE AS FAR AS THE SOUL-WINNING ASPECT GOES. 00:52:44.46\00:52:48.43 THE PROGRAM IS GOING TO HELP US MEASURE THE AMOUNT OF NEED THAT 00:52:48.43\00:52:53.67 WE'RE MEETING THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 00:52:53.67\00:52:54.90 SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING A 00:52:54.90\00:52:58.91 HOMELESS -- MOBILOUT REACH CENTER THAT INVOLVES -- WE JUST 00:52:58.91\00:53:04.55 FINISHED FUND-RAISING FOR OUR CLOTHING TRAILER. 00:53:04.55\00:53:08.32 WE REALIZED THERE WAS A SERVICE GAP FOR A DRESS CLOTHING IN 00:53:08.32\00:53:12.82 DOWNTOWN. SO WE'RE LIKE, OKAY. 00:53:12.82\00:53:14.86 WE'LL BRING IT TO THEM, AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE OTHER CLOTHING 00:53:14.86\00:53:18.36 AND HYGIENE PRODUCTS IN THERE. THE SHOWER TRAILER -- WE JUST 00:53:18.36\00:53:24.17 HAD SOMEONE DONATE $17,500 AS A MATCHING GRANT. 00:53:24.17\00:53:27.50 >> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE SECOND HOUR. 00:53:27.50\00:53:29.77 >> UH-HUH. >> BECAUSE THESE -- WHAT I LIKE 00:53:29.77\00:53:32.51 ABOUT THAT -- AND YOU GUYS ARE YOUNG -- YOU ARE IN YOUR 20S. 00:53:32.51\00:53:36.14 >> THANK YOU. [ LAUGHTER ] 00:53:36.14\00:53:37.65 >> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUBLISH YOUR AGE. 00:53:37.65\00:53:40.22 >> THAT'S WHY I SAID THANK YOU. >> BUT YOU ARE A YOUNG MAN. 00:53:40.22\00:53:43.42 I THINK YOU ARE IN YOUR 20S. >> I AM IN MY 20S. 00:53:43.42\00:53:47.29 >> WE WON'T PUBLISH -- I KNOW YOU'RE NOT 40. 00:53:47.29\00:53:53.73 SEE GOD CALLS YOUNG PEOPLE, AND -- THE WORLD HAS CREATED 00:53:53.73\00:53:59.00 SUCH AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IT IS DESIGNED TO JUST TAKE THE MIND 00:53:59.00\00:54:02.60 OF THE YOUNG AND PUT IT ON A CONVEYER BELT AND FILL IT WITH 00:54:02.60\00:54:08.11 NOTHINGNESS, AND WHEN THE CONVEYER BELT CLOSES OVER, THE 00:54:08.11\00:54:12.78 MIND JUST DROPS OFF INTO A MEANINGLESS WORLD. 00:54:12.78\00:54:16.32 YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. 00:54:16.32\00:54:19.35 AND PEOPLE BEING SPOILED -- THEY THINK I NEED TO BE HAPPY ALL OF 00:54:19.35\00:54:23.32 THE TIME, NOT REALIZING THAT JESUS SAID IF YOU DO THESE 00:54:23.32\00:54:26.83 THINGS -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE THE BLESSING 00:54:26.83\00:54:28.93 COMES -- HAPP ARE YOU IF YOU DO THESE THINGS. 00:54:28.93\00:54:33.94 >> RIGHT. >> AND SO TOGETHER -- IF YOU 00:54:33.94\00:54:37.57 WERE TO WALK ME THROUGH AND JUST KIND OF O FOR THE APPETITE OF 00:54:37.57\00:54:42.34 OUR AUDIENCE, WHEN YOU DECIDE -- LET ME ASK THE 00:54:42.34\00:54:46.08 QUESTION. WHICH ONE OF YOU IS THE -PREACHER? 00:54:46.08\00:54:48.82 >> THIS ONE. >> YOU ARE THE PREACHER? 00:54:48.82\00:54:51.45 >> I SENSED THAT. >> I PREACH PRETTY OFTEN AS 00:54:51.45\00:54:55.72 WELL. HE TRAVELS ALL OVER THE WORLD. 00:54:55.72\00:54:58.09 I'M JUST THE LOCAL PREACHER. HE IS THE INTERNATIONAL ONE. 00:54:58.09\00:55:02.43 >> OKAY. THE LORD OPENS THOSE DOORS, AND 00:55:02.43\00:55:05.40 HE PUT YOU TOGETHER, LEFT HAND, RIGHT HAND, BOTH OF YOU HAVE THE 00:55:05.40\00:55:09.67 GIFT THAT GOD HAS GIVEN TO YOU. YOU TALK ABOUT THE VISION. 00:55:09.67\00:55:13.27 GOD GIVES VISION TO BOTH OF YOU. YOU COULD BE A MOSES AND ERIN, 00:55:13.27\00:55:19.25 AND JOSHUA AND CALEB, BUT THE LORD SENDS US TWO BY TWO. 00:55:19.25\00:55:25.65 WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU SEE CAN STILL BE STRENGTHENED IN 00:55:25.65\00:55:34.10 THE CHURCH? I KIND OF PULLED THAT ONE OUT OF 00:55:34.10\00:55:37.30 THE AIR. >> ONE THING THAT I SEE THAT CAN 00:55:37.30\00:55:41.20 BE STRENGTHENED. I KNOW MANY OTHER YOUNG ADULTS 00:55:41.20\00:55:44.81 FEEL THE SAME WAY AS ME, IS CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT IN YOUR 00:55:44.81\00:55:48.38 CHURCH THAT WELCOMES NEW PEOPLE. I'M TALKING PEOPLE THAT COME 00:55:48.38\00:55:52.21 RIGHT OFF OF THE STREET THAT CAN COME INTO THE CHURCH AND FEEL 00:55:52.21\00:55:56.58 WELCOMED AND COMFORTABLE BECAUSE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THERE ARE 00:55:56.58\00:56:02.82 MANY CHURCHES WHERE YOUNG ADULTS GO NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE BRINGING 00:56:02.82\00:56:08.76 THEIR FRIENDS WHO DO NOT K KNOW -- CHRIST, WHO ARE NOT 00:56:08.76\00:56:19.97 ADVENTISTS. THEY ARE AFRAID SOMEONE WILL SAY 00:56:19.97\00:56:22.28 SOMETHING TO THAT PERSON, BECAUSE THEY'LL COME IN NOT 00:56:22.28\00:56:26.31 DRESSED -- WHATEVER. AND ONCE THAT HAPPENS THAT TIME, 00:56:26.31\00:56:30.09 THAT COULD BE THEIR ONLY -- YOU KNOW, THAT COULD SCARE THEM AWAY 00:56:30.09\00:56:33.99 FROM THE CHURCH. >> WHICH I WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF 00:56:33.99\00:56:39.83 OF, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE CREATED THE SMALL GROUPS. 00:56:39.83\00:56:43.06 THEY CAN COME AND BE VULNERABLE. AND THE OTHER THING THAT THE 00:56:43.06\00:56:46.77 CHURCH NEEDS A HUNGER FOR TRUTH. AT TIMES WE DRIFTED IN SAYING 00:56:46.77\00:56:51.37 LET'S REACH THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT, IN THE SENSE OF ENTERTAINING 00:56:51.37\00:56:55.08 THEM, OR MAKING IT A SOCIAL CLUB, BUT THIS PAST FRIDAY WE 00:56:55.08\00:56:58.98 WERE GOING THROUGH THE BOOK OF HEBREWS, AND JUST THE DESIRE AND 00:56:58.98\00:57:04.62 HUNGER FOR TRUTH, SO WHEN YOU TEACH IT TO THEM, AND THEY SEE 00:57:04.62\00:57:08.49 IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, IT'S SUCH A FULFILLING -- IT'S SO 00:57:08.49\00:57:12.96 FULFILLING TO SEE THEY ARE LEARNING SOMETHING FROM THE 00:57:12.96\00:57:15.40 TRUTH THAT SOMETIMES WE TAKE FOR GRANTED. 00:57:15.40\00:57:18.83 SO BETWEEN JUST AN ENVIRONMENT TO ALLOW THESE YOUNG ADULTS TO 00:57:18.83\00:57:21.74 BE CREATIVE, AND AN ENVIRONMENT FOR THEM TO LEARN AND GROW IN 00:57:21.74\00:57:25.64 THEIR EXPERIENCE. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 00:57:25.64\00:57:27.48 WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND TALK MORE ABOUT SOME OF THIS IN 00:57:27.48\00:57:31.48 THE NEXT HOUR, CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE OF ALL 00:57:31.48\00:57:35.92 CLASSES ARE COMFORTABLE. STAY TUNED BECAUSE THE REST OF 00:57:35.92\00:57:39.92 THE SALT WILL BE SHAKEN IN THE SEC HOUR. 00:57:39.92\00:57:42.29 DON'T GO AWAY, WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST ABOUT TWO MINUTES. 00:57:42.29\00:57:45.79