¤ >> WELCOME
BACK TO 3ABN, "TODAY
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LIVE." YOU CAN TELL WE'RE LIVE
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TELEVISION. I DON'T
KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED.
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I'LL USUALLY
MORE ALERT THAN THAT.
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I THINK MY EYES ARE
DESERVING ME A LITTLE BIT.
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IT WAS LIKE, FOUR, THREE,
TWO, ONE, AND YOU ARE OUT.
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WE HAVE ASKED YOU
TO CALL IN QUESTIONS.
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WE'RE GETTING LOTS OF THEM NOW.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO STAY ON
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THIS SUBJECT MUCH LONGER, BUT
IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT SUBJECT.
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PEOPLE ARE ASKING US HOW DO WE
DEAL WITH THIS IN THE CHURCH AND
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HOW DO WE DEAL
WITH THIS SITUATION?
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SO I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE
CHURCHES, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
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THE OTHERS, BUT AT LEAST THIS IS
SOMETHING THAT IS REALITY THAT
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WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. AND
JOHN, THE STORY THAT I WAS
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GETTING READY TO TELL YOU,
WAS THAT A CHURCH HIRED A CHOIR
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DIRECTOR, AND AFTER HE WAS
THERE A WHILE, HE SAID TO THEM,
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OPENLY, I'M GAY, A HOMOSEXUAL,
AND, YOU KNOW, I DO LIVE TH
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LIFESTYLE, BUT I STILL WANT TO
BE YOUR CHOIR DIRECTOR, BECAUSE
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I LOVE THE LORD AND I LOVE
MUSIC, AND I LOVE THIS CHURCH.
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AND THE CHURCH BOARD VOTED
AND SAID WE CAN'T HAVE THAT.
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AND WE'RE SORRY, YOU CAN COME
TO THIS CHURCH, BUT WE CAN'T PUT
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YOU IN LEADERSHIP, BECAUSE THAT
SENDS A BAD MESSAGE THAT THIS
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LIFESTYLE IS OKAY.
SO THEY LET HIM GO.
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BUT THE NEWSPAPERS AND THE MEDIA
IN THE AREA, GOT AHOLD OF IT AND
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SAID HOW TERRIBLE THIS CHURCH
IS, THAT THEY CAN'T CARE ABOUT
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THIS GUY, AND THIS IS A
SHAME THAT THEY FIRED HIM.
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SO ANOTHER CHURCH IN THE SAME
AREA HIRED HIM AS THEIR CHOIR
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DIRECTOR. AND THEY
SAID WE LOVE EVERYBODY,
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AND WE FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HIRE
HIM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE
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COMMUNITY TO THINK THAT WE DON'T
LOVE -- YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY.
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SO THIS IS JUST A
MESSAGE WE'RE SENDING.
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SO YOU MAY LOOK AT IT
DIFFERENTLY, BUT W THINK IT'S A
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MESSAGE THAT WE LOVE PEOPLE.
AND I SAID WHAT IF I WERE THAT
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CHOIR DIRECTOR, AND JOHN, I COME
TO YOUR CHURCH, AND I SAY JOHN,
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I WOULD LOVE TO BE YOUR CHOIR
DIRECTOR, BUT I'M AN ADULTER,
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I'M AN OPEN ADULTER, BUT I LOVE
THE CHURCH, RONNY, YOUR CHURCH
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IN OKLAHOMA, I LOVE THE PEOPLE,
I LOVE LEADING MUSIC, CAN I BE
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YOUR CHOIR DIRECTOR. YOU
WOULD TAKE IT TO THE CHURCH
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BOARD AND THEY WILL
SAY NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
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OR I SAY I REALLY WANT TO BE THE
TREASURER OF YOUR CHURCH, BUT I
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STEAL A LITTLE BIT,
IT'S JUST IN MY BLOOD.
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BUT I TRY NOT TO. BUT I
WANT TO BE OPEN WITH YOU,
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I AM A THIEF, CAN I
HAVE A JOB AS A TREASURER.
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YOU WOULD HAVE NO
PROBLEM VOTING ME DOWN.
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IF I SAY, I DO
DRUGS, I WAS BORN WITH THAT.
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MY MOTHER DID THEM.
MY GRANDFATHER DID THEM.
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I TRY TO CONTROL IT, BUT I THINK
I SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO
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DRUGS, BUT I STILL WANT TO BE
IN LEADERSHIP POSITION AT YOUR
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CHURCH. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY?
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>> WE PREACH
DELIVERANCE THROUGH CHRIST.
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>> YOU WOULDN'T GIVE ME THE JOB.
I CAN GO DOWN THE WHOLE LIST,
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THEY WOULD TURN ME DOWN.
BUT IF I SAY I'M HOMOSEXUAL, I
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CAN'T HELP IT,
THEN THEY HIRE YOU.
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SO TO ME THAT'S
AN AMAZING THING.
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I PRAY FOR
EVERYBODY. I HAVE PROBLEMS.
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YOU HAVE PROBLEMS, BUT AS FAR AS
CHURCHES GO, I THINK WE HAVE TO
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GUARD WHO IS IN LEADERSHIP.
NOBODY IS PERFECT, NONE OF US
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ARE. BUT WITH
AMERICA -- I WRITE THIS
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IN MY NEW LITTLE BOOK, THERE
HAS ALWAYS BEEN HOMOSEXUALS AND
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MURDERS IN AMERICA, YOU NAME THE
CRIME, DRUG ADDICTS, AND GOD HAS
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BLESSED AMERICA.
>> [ INAUDIBLE ].
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>> YEAH, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
BUT WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE
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NOW? BECAUSE IT
BECAME LAW OF THE
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LAND. SO I CALL THAT SPIRITUAL
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VIGILANTLY. SO THE
GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF
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GOING THROUGH THE PEOPLE,
MADE IT A FEDERAL CASE, PUSHED
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THROUGH SAME-SEX MARRIAGE,
AND MADE IT LAW OF THE LAND.
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THAT IS A SLAP
IN THE FACE TO GOD.
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WHEN CREATED TWO THINGS AT
CREATION, THE SABBATH AS WE SAID
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EARLIER -- AND YOU TRAMPLE
ON ANY OF GOD'S LAWS AND YOU ARE
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GOING TO REAP WHAT YOU
SEW. SO ENOUGH OF THAT.
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NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO
ON TO THESE QUESTIONS.
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>> ONE THING I
COULD ADD TO THAT.
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YOU SAID HOW CAN I
GET AWAY FROM THIS?
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I DON'T WANT TO BE THIS
WAY? I DON'T WANT TO LIVE THAT
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LIFESTYLE. THE
ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS
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THE SAME AS ANY
OTHER PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE.
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IT IS YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN
OR YOU CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF
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GOD. THAT'S WHERE
THE POWER IS RIGHT
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THERE. YOU CAN
TRY AND TRY AND TRY ON
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YOUR OWN, AND NEVER BE
SUCCESSFUL, BUT ONCE YOU HAVE
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GIVEN IT TO GOD AND SURRENDERED
TO HIM, AND BE BORN AGAIN, THEN
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THE VICTORY TAKES PLACE, BECAUSE
NOW YOU HAVE GOD WORKING WITH
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YOU, AS YOU COMMIT AND
SURRENDER YOURSELF TO HIM.
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SO THERE'S WHERE THE VICTORY IS.
JUST LIKE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT
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THE MAN WHO WAS THE THIEF OR
EMBEZELER, OR THE DRUG ADDICT OR
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ANYONE ELSE, JESUS
SAID YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
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AND WHEN YOU ARE BORN
AGAIN, YOU GET THAT VICTORY.
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>> SPEAKING OF THAT HERE
IS A QUESTION FROM NEW YORK.
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WHAT ARE THE STEPS TO
SALVATION? HOW DO YOU BE SAVED?
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>> I THINK FAITH COMES BY
HEARING, HEARING BY THE WORD OF
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GOD. YOU HEAR THE WORD.
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THE HOLY SPIRIT WORKS TO CONVICT
AND CONVINCE YOU, AND THEN IF
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YOU BELIEVE AND CONFESS WITH
YOUR MOUTH, JESUS CHRIST IS THE
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LORD, AND YOU JUST SIMPLY
PRAY AND -- YOU KNOW, I'LL NEVER
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FORGET THAT MY SISTER, WHO WAS
A DRUG ADDICT FOR 20-SOME-ODD
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YEARS, AND I PRAY SOD HARD FOR
HER, AND I KEPT TELLING HER ALL
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YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL GOD
YOU ARE TIRED OF BEING A SINNER,
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THAT YOU -- YOU WANT HIM IN YOUR
LIFE, AND ASK TO BE FILLED WITH
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THE HOLY SPIRIT,
AND I SAID HE WILL.
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AND SHE WENT OUT IN THE BACKYARD
OF MY MOTHER'S HOME AND THAT'S
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WHAT SHE SAID IF IT'S TRUE WHAT
MY SISTER SAYS THAT ALL I HAVE
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TO DO IS TELL YOU, I'M A
SINNER, I'M SICK OF SINNING.
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I NEED SALVATION --
>> WHICH WE CALL THAT
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REPENTANCE. >>
THAT'S REPENTANCE.
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AND SHE SAID FORGIVE ME OF
MY SINS AND DELIVER YOUR HOLY
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SPIRIT AND SHE WAS DELIVERED
FROM DRUGS LIKE THAT FOR 30
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YEARS. FOR THE
LAST 30 YEARS OF HER
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LIFE SHE NEVER DID DRUGS AGAIN.
IT'S JUST ABOUT CONFESS AND
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REPEN AND RECEIVE.
>> AND WE HAVE GOT A FEW
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SCRIPTURES FOR THOSE WATCHING.
THAT MAYBE YOU WANT TO WRITE
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THESE DOWN OR YOU CAN GET A COPY
OF THIS PROGRAM IF YOU WOULD
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LIKE. AND MAYBE GIVE US A FEW SK
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SKRIM -- SCRIPTURES. >>
WELL, THE LORD HAS LEAD MY
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MIND ON A NEW CHANNEL --
NOT SOMETHING THAT IS NEW, BUT
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DANNY, I HAVE LEARNED IN READING
THE BIBLE AND THIS THEME IS ALL
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THE WAY THROUGH THE BIBLE,
WE CANNOT CHOOSE WHAT TO DO.
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WE CAN ONLY CHOOSE WHO TO
SERVE. ROMANS 6:16 IS ONE OF THE
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PASSAGES IN THE BIBLE THAT SHOWS
US THAT THERE ARE ONLY TWO TYPES
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OF INDIVIDUALS, SHELLEY IN THE
WORLD, PASTOR SHELTON, THOSE WHO
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ARE SLOOIFS TO SIN AND THOSE
WHO ARE SLAVES TO RIGHTEOUSNESS.
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THERE IS NO THIRD CATEGORY.
ROMANS 6:16, DO YOU NOT KNOW
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THAT TO WHOM YOU PRESENT
YOURSELF, YOU ARE THAT ONE'S
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SLAVE WHOM YOU OBEY.
VERSUS 17, BUT GOD BE THANKED
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THAT THOUGH YOU WERE SLAVES TO
SIN, YET YOU OBEY FROM THE HEART
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THAT FORM OF DOCTRINE TO
WHICH YOU WERE DELIVERED.
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AND HAVE YOU BEEN SET FREE,
NOW YOU HAVE BECOME SLAVES TO
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RIGHTEOUSNESS. SO
INWHEN YOU THE LORD IN, YOU
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BECOME HIS SERVANT, AND THEN HE
DELIVERS YOU FROM THE SIN -- NOT
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JUST THE PENALTY OF SIN, BUT HE
DELIVERS YOU FROM THE POWER OF
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SIN. >> OKAY.
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>> I HAVE A TEXT DANNY, 1 JOHN
5, AND WE TALK ABOUT DELIVERING
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AND ACCEPTING THE
SON STARTING AT VERSE 11.
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THIS IS THE TESTIMONY THAT GOD
HAS GIVEN US ETERNAL LIFE AND
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THIS LIFE IS IN HIS
SON, SO IT'S NO PLACE ELSE.
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WE DON'T GET SAVED ANYPLACE
ELSE BUT THROUGH TH SON.
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HE WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE
SON OF GOD DOES NOT HAVE LIFE.
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AND THESE THINGS I HAVE WRITTEN
TO YOU, THAT YOU MAY KNOW THAT
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YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE; THAT YOU
MAY CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN THE
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NAME OF THE SON OF GOD.
NOW THIS IS THE CONFIDENCE THAT
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WE HAVE IN HIM, THAT IF WE ASK
ANYTHING ACCORDING TO HIS WILL,
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HE HEARS US, AND IF WE KNOW THAT
HE HEARS US, WHATEVER WE CAN, WE
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KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE PETITION
THAT WE HAVE ASKED OF HIM.
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SO, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
ASKING, RECEIVING, BELIEVING,
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AND REALIZING THAT LIFE ONLY
COMES TO US THROUGH THE SON, THE
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SON OF GOD. >> AMEN.
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AND, YOU KNOW, 1 JOHN 1:9 SAYS
IF WE CONFESS HIS SINS HE IS
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FAITHFUL AND JUST
TO FORGIVE US OUR SINS.
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BUT ROMANS 10:9 SAYS THIS, IF
YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR MOUTH THE
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LORD JESUS AND BELIEVE IN YOUR
HEART, AND BELIEVING IN JESUS
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MEANS TO BE LIVING IN JESUS.
THIS IS A BEEF THAT IS NOT JUST
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A MENTAL SENSE, YEAH, I BELIEVE
HE WAS THE SON OF GOD, AND YEAH,
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HE DIED FOR THE SINS -- IT MEANS
YOU BELIEVE HE DID IT FOR YOU,
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AND YOU ARE WILLING TO SURRENDER
CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE TO HIM.
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SO IT SAYS IF YOU BELIEVE IN
YOUR HEART THAT GOD HAS RAISED
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HIM FROM THE DEAD YOU WILL
BE SAVED, FOR WITH THE HEART ONE
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BELIEVES INTO RIGHTEOUSNESS,
AND WITH THE MOUTH CONFESSION IS
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MADE INTO SALVATION. SO
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
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WE JUST COME BEFORE THE LORD AND
TALK TO HIM LIKE WE WOULD AS A
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FRIEND. >> YES.
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IT SAYS WILL WE BE SINNING?
SOME PEOPLE SAY SINNING WILL
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KEEP HAPPENING
UNTIL JESUS COMES.
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THE BIBLE SAYS ALL HAVE SINNED
AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF
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GOD, BUT WHEN SIN KEEPS US OUT
OF HEAVEN, TELL ME IF I'M WRONG,
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IT'S WHEN WE REBEL AGAINST
WHAT WE KNOW TO DO IS RIGHT.
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IN OTHER WORDS WE
ALL HAVE WEAKNESSES.
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BECAUSE I FAIL ONE TIME OR TWO
TIMES OR WHAT HAVE YOU, I FAIL,
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AS LONG AS I'M REALLY TRULY
SORRY AND I GO BACK TO JESUS, HE
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WILL FORGIVE ME
FROM THAT, RIGHT?
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BUT IF I UNDERSTAND THIS RIGHT,
AND YOU HELP ME, JOHN, BECAUSE
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WE WERE TALKING
ABOUT HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE.
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SOMEBODY SAYS THAT IS NO
DIFFERENT THAN A MALE COMMITS
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ADULTERY, NO, IT ISN'T?
BUT EITHER ONE SAYS I KNOW WHAT
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THE BIBLE SAYS, BUT I'M GOING
TO DO WHAT I WANT ANYWAY, THAT'S
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REBELIAN AGAINST GOD'S LAW, AND
THAT'S WHEN SIN BECOMES DEATH.
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>> RIGHT. >> HELP
ME WITH THAT, Y'ALL.
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>> WELL, THERE IS A SIN
NATURE. THERE IS A SIN FLESH.
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WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SIN
FLESH UNTIL THE LORD GIVES US A
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NEW BODY. HOW FAR
BACK CAN WE ALL GO TO
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REMEMBER THE KIND OF LIFE YOU
USED TO LIVE BEFORE CHRIST, BUT
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JESUS FIRST SAVED US
FROM THE PENALTY OF SIN.
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>> UH-HUH. >> WE
NO LONGER HAVE DEATH
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HANGING OVER OUR HEAD, THAT'S
INSTANTANEOUS, BUT DAILY WE ARE
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BEING SAVED FROM
THE POWER OF SIN.
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HERE IS THE KEY. WHEN
WE SAY WE'LL BE SINNING
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UNTIL JESUS COMING, WE'LL HAVE
THE SIN NATURE, BUT THERE IS A
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DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
INTENTIONAL SIN AND STUMBLING.
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>> ABSOLUTELY. >> IF
YU PRACTICE SIN, YOU WILL
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NOT BE SAVED.
PRACTICING OF SIN IS WHERE YOU
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LOSE -- WHOEVER IS BORN OF GOD,
1 JOHN 3:9 WHOEVER IS BORN OF
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GOD DOES NOT COMMIT SIN, DOES
NOT PRACTICE SIN, FOR HIS SIN
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REMAINS IN HIM AND HE CANNOT
KEEP ON PRACTICING SIN BECAUSE
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HE IS BORN OF GOD. SO
THE ONE WHO KEEPS PRACTICING
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SIN AND SAYING I'M GOING TO KEEP
PRACTICING SIN, THAT NOW BECOMES
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INIQUITY, AND INIQUITY IS NOT A
SIN THAT IS FORGIVABLE, BECAUSE
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YOU ARE CONTINUING TO CRUCIFY
THE SON OF GOD OVER AND OVER
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AGAIN. BUT IF
YOU STUMBLE THAT'S A
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DIFFERENCE ALL TOGETHER.
ONE PASTOR SAID, LOOKING AT THE
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MARK, THERE'S AIMING TOWARDS THE
MARK, THERE IS REFUSING TO AIM
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AT THE MARK. LOOKING
AT THE MARK, CHRIST, THE
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PERFECT MARK. AIMING
AT THE MARK AND MISSING
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AS WE HAVE ALL FALLEN SHORT,
BUT REFUSING TO AIM IS INNICKTY.
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>> I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT DANNY,
I HAVE A SERMON WHERE I TALK
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ABOUT' BEADENCE. I
ALWAYS SAY OBEDIENCE IS AN
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ATTITUDE, BECAUSE IF WE
START MAKING THIS BIG LONG LIST,
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BECOULD NEVER COVER
EVERYTHING. >> THAT'S TRUE.
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>> BUT IF WE SAY THAT OBEDIENCE
IS THE ATTITUDE THAT WE HAVE.
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I STUMBLE SOMETIMES, AND I
GO BACK TO GOD AND SAY I DIDN'T
00:14:24.36\00:14:28.90
WANT TO DO THAT. WILL YOU
FORGIVE ME.-SO WHEN I SIN IN AN
00:14:28.90\00:14:34.64
ATTITUDE OF OBEDIENCE, I COME TO
GOD AND I SAY I DON'T WANT TO DO
00:14:34.64\00:14:39.54
THAT, I'M SORRY,
FORGIVE ME AND START AGAIN.
00:14:39.54\00:14:42.78
SO IT'S NOT JUST THIS
LONG LISTS OF DOS AND DON'TS.
00:14:42.78\00:14:47.15
THE ATTITUDE OF OBEDIENCE IS
WHERE WE NEED TO BE LIVING IN
00:14:47.15\00:14:51.65
THAT ATTITUDE OF
OBEDIENCE. >> OKAY.
00:14:51.65\00:14:54.29
>> AND WE'RE SAVED BY GRACE.
OBEDIENCE DOES NOT SAVE US, BUT
00:14:54.29\00:14:58.66
WHEN WE COME INTO -- THE
UNIFYING THEME OF THE SCRIPTURE
00:14:58.66\00:15:01.76
IS THAT GOD IS A COVENANT
MAKER AND A COVENANT KEEPER.
00:15:01.76\00:15:07.64
AND JESUS CHRIST IS THE
COVNANT THAT HE HAS GIVEN TO US.
00:15:07.64\00:15:12.21
SO WHEN WE COME INTO CHRIST, IF
WE'RE ABIDING IN CHRIST, AND WE
00:15:12.21\00:15:16.91
RECEIVED GOD'S LOVE IN THIS NEW
COVENANT, GOD EXPECTS A RESPONSE
00:15:16.91\00:15:22.38
OF LOYALTY US. JESUS
SAID IN JOHN 14:15, IF YOU
00:15:22.38\00:15:28.29
LOVE ME KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS,
AND THE BIBLE TELLS US IN 1 JOHN
00:15:28.29\00:15:35.73
2:9, THAT HE WHO SAYS THAT HE IS
IN CHRIST OUGHT ALSO HIMSELF TO
00:15:35.73\00:15:44.04
WALK AS CHRIST WALKED.
WE KNOW 1 FIPIANS 12 AND 13,
00:15:44.04\00:15:50.71
OBEDIENCE IS BY GRACE. WE
CANNOT OBEY IN OUR OWN POWER.
00:15:50.71\00:15:58.55
FIP  -- FA LIPPIANS 1:6 SAYS
THAT HE WILL COMPLETE THE GOOD
00:15:58.55\00:16:08.86
WORK THAT HE HAS BEGUN IN US.
BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT THIS
00:16:08.86\00:16:12.87
OUT, BECAUSE SOMETIMES
PEOPLE SAY WHY DO YOU TALK ABOUT
00:16:12.87\00:16:19.01
OBEDIENCE. IN --
THIS IS 1 JOHN 2:3-4.
00:16:19.01\00:16:23.98
IT SAYS BY THIS WE
KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM.
00:16:23.98\00:16:28.65
IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, HE
WHO SAYS I KNOW HIM -- AND YOU
00:16:28.65\00:16:35.09
HAVE GOT TO KNOW CHRIST TO BE
SAVED -- HE WHO SAYS I KNOW HIM,
00:16:35.09\00:16:39.26
AND DOES NOT KEEP HIS
COMMANDMENTS IS A LIAR, AND THE
00:16:39.26\00:16:42.66
TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. BUT
WHOEVER KEEPS HIS WORD TRULY
00:16:42.66\00:16:46.94
THE LOVE OF GOD
IS PERFECTED IN HIM.
00:16:46.94\00:16:49.57
BY THIS, WE KNOW WE ARE IN HIM.
AND SALVATION IS FOUND ONLY HIM.
00:16:49.57\00:16:55.48
>> ALL RIGHT. ARE
WE READY TO MOVE ON?
00:16:55.48\00:16:58.11
>> I HAVE TO ADD ONE
MORE THIN TO THAT DANNY.
00:16:58.11\00:17:04.39
CAN I SHARE A
QUOTE REAL QUICKLY.
00:17:04.39\00:17:06.86
>> SURE. >> THIS
ONE IS SO APROPOS TO
00:17:06.86\00:17:10.19
THIS QUESTION. TALKING
ABOUT OBEDIENCE, SERVING
00:17:10.19\00:17:13.06
THE LORD, KEEPING HIS COMM COMMA
00:17:13.06\00:17:18.63
COMMANDMENTS. THIS
QUOTATION BLEW MY MIND.
00:17:18.63\00:17:21.64
IT SAYS IN BOOK TEMPERANCE 1-12.
IT SAYS WE CANNOT CHANGE OUR
00:17:21.64\00:17:27.68
HEARTS. WE CANNOT
CONTROL OUR THOUGHTS,
00:17:27.68\00:17:29.81
OUR IMPULSES, OUR AFFECTIONS.
WE CANNOT MAKE OURSELVES PURE.
00:17:29.81\00:17:38.65
BUT WE CAN CHOOSE
TO SERVE GOD. >> OKAY.
00:17:38.65\00:17:42.16
>> WE CAN GIVE HIM OUR WILL AND
THEN HE WILL WORK IN US TO DO
00:17:42.16\00:17:47.30
HIS WILL. JOSHUA
DIDN'T SAY CHOOSE YOU
00:17:47.30\00:17:49.80
THIS DAY WHAT YOU WILL DO.
HE SAID CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM
00:17:49.80\00:17:57.34
YOU WILL SERVE. WHEN
THE LORD SAID TO MOSES,
00:17:57.34\00:17:58.51
WHAT IS THE MESSAGE TO THE
PHARAOH, LET MY PEOPLE THAT THEY
00:17:58.51\00:18:03.61
MAY SERVE ME. THE GOD
THAT YOU SERVE IS ABLE
00:18:03.61\00:18:09.32
TO DELIVER YOU. THE
GOD WHOM YOU SERVE HAS
00:18:09.32\00:18:12.92
DELIVERED YOU. WHEN
YOU CHOOSE WHO TO SERVE,
00:18:12.92\00:18:16.42
GET THIS, INSTEAD OF WHAT TO DO,
HE COMES IN TO WILL AND TO DO,
00:18:16.42\00:18:22.36
TO WILL AND TO
DO. >> THERE YOU GO.
00:18:22.36\00:18:24.90
>> WE CAN'T WILL. WE
LEAN OUR WILL ON HIS SIDE.
00:18:24.90\00:18:28.44
LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IF I JOIN YOUR BASKETBALL TEAM,
00:18:28.44\00:18:33.27
I KNOW WHO MY COACH IS GOING TO
BE, I KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO
00:18:33.27\00:18:36.88
PLAY GAMES, WHAT MY
UNIFORM IS GOING TO BE --
00:18:36.88\00:18:40.98
>> AND WHO TO
PASS TOO. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> DON'T LEAVE THAT.
>> AND WHO NOT TO PASS TO.
00:18:43.15\00:18:47.19
>> JOHN AND I
BOTH LOVE TO SHOOT.
00:18:47.19\00:18:51.36
>> YOU DON'T WIN BY DRIBBLING,
BUT IF I JOIN THE LAKERS,
00:18:51.36\00:18:56.33
EVERYTHING IS SET
BEFORE I JOIN THEM.
00:18:56.33\00:18:59.73
I DON'T CHOOSE MY
STADIUM, MY UNIFORM, MY CITY.
00:18:59.73\00:19:03.54
WHEN I CHOOSE THE LORD,
EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM, HE COMES
00:19:03.54\00:19:07.38
IN TO WILL AND TO DO. WE
HAVE TO SIMPLY CHOOSE WHO TO
00:19:07.38\00:19:14.35
SERVE. >> AMEN.
00:19:14.35\00:19:15.75
HERE IS A QUESTION, AND AGAIN,
IT GETS US BACK TO WHERE WE WERE
00:19:15.75\00:19:20.76
EARLIER, BUT IT'S A
VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.
00:19:20.76\00:19:23.93
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MY
CHURCH THAT MY HUSBAND AND I GO
00:19:23.93\00:19:27.60
TO WHEN MY HEALTH ALLOWS ME.
IT IS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE
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OUR CHURCH ACCEPTED A WOMAN
WHO IS HAVING A SEX CHANGE AS A
00:19:32.07\00:19:35.64
MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH. I
KNOW THERE WILL COME A TIME
00:19:35.64\00:19:38.37
WHEN WE WILL HAVE TO LEAVE
THE CHURCH, BECAUSE OF WHAT
00:19:38.37\00:19:42.48
REVELATIONS SAYS.
COME OF OUT HER MY PEOPLE.
00:19:42.48\00:19:47.08
MY QUESTION IS HOW DOES ONE KNOW
WHEN THEY SHOULD LEAVE A CHURCH.
00:19:47.08\00:19:54.86
I ASKED MY HUSBAND, WHAT IF
THIS MAN WANTS TO MARRY A WOMAN
00:19:54.86\00:20:03.93
BECAUSE SHE THINKS SHE IS A MAN.
I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO HANDLE
00:20:03.93\00:20:09.57
THIS. MY MAIN
CONCERN, THOUGH, IS WHEN
00:20:09.57\00:20:12.64
ONE SHOULD LEAVE THE
CHURCH IF IT EVER COMES TO THIS.
00:20:12.64\00:20:15.48
AND SO I KNOW THIS CAN BE A VERY
TOUCHY TYPE SUBJECT, BUT CAN'T
00:20:15.48\00:20:21.72
WE STICK BACK TO WHERE WE WANT
TO BELONG WHERE THE WORSHIP IN
00:20:21.72\00:20:29.22
SPIRIT AND TRUTH. THERE
IS ALWAYS ANOTHER CHURCH
00:20:29.22\00:20:32.06
YOU CAN GO TO, MAYBE IN THE
SAME -- YOU KNOW, WITH THE SAME
00:20:32.06\00:20:35.70
BELIEFS, BUT JOHN, YOU ARE A
PASTOR, WHAT DO YOU SAY IF THIS
00:20:35.70\00:20:40.10
IS HAPPENING AND THIS IS
ACCEPTED, AND THE PASTOR MARRIES
00:20:40.10\00:20:44.91
THIS PERSON, AND ALL OF
THAT. WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE DO?
00:20:44.91\00:20:48.21
>> IF YOU STUDY THE ISRAELITES,
WHENEVER THEY CREATED AN
00:20:48.21\00:20:56.12
ALLIANCE WITH SIN, IT
AFFECTED THE ENTIRE CAMP.
00:20:56.12\00:21:01.96
NO ONE IS BLESSED BY THAT.
BUT HERE -- I THINK I ADDRESSED
00:21:01.96\00:21:07.60
SOMETHING LIKE THIS -- YOU
KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE.
00:21:07.60\00:21:10.73
THE LORD TALKS ABOUT THE FIVE
WIVES, AND THE FIVE FOOLISH.
00:21:10.73\00:21:16.47
WHEN THE SHAKING -- HEBREWS
12 TALKS ABOUT THIS, THE LORD IS
00:21:16.47\00:21:22.11
GOING TO SHAKE THE RIGHTEOUS
IN AND SHAKE THE SIN OUT.
00:21:22.11\00:21:25.68
I WOULD NOT PUT ANYONE IN
LEADERSHIP THAT IS KNOWINGLY
00:21:25.68\00:21:29.12
HAVING A SEX CHANGE OPERATION,
BECAUSE I HAVE NOW BECOME A
00:21:29.12\00:21:34.12
PARTAKER OF THAT VERY
SIN. WHAT MAKES THIS SO CRAZY
00:21:34.12\00:21:38.43
DELICATE, AND I DON'T KNOW
IF I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR ANYBODY
00:21:38.43\00:21:42.50
ELSE, BUT I HAVE IN MY
FAMILY SOMEONE WHO IS ADMITTEDLY
00:21:42.50\00:21:47.47
HOMOSEXUAL, BUT I LOVE
THAT PERSON, BUT THEY KNOW I
00:21:47.47\00:21:51.21
DON'T -- I DON'T CONDONE THE
SIN, AND I THINK THAT WHAT IS
00:21:51.21\00:21:55.04
HAPPENING IN OUR WORLD TODAY IS
WE'RE TIPTOEING AROUND THE SIN
00:21:55.04\00:22:01.22
AND NOT CARING ENOUGH ABOUT THE
PERSON TO LEAD THAT PERSON TO
00:22:01.22\00:22:04.79
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE
LORD CAN DELIVER HIM OR HER FROM
00:22:04.79\00:22:07.02
ANYTHING. BUT I
WOULDN'T -- I WOULDN'T
00:22:07.02\00:22:09.02
TAKE THAT ROLE THAT THE PASTOR
HAS TAKEN BEFORE PERFORMING A
00:22:09.02\00:22:14.46
MARRIAGE BY SEASON WHO IS GOING
TO HAVE A SEX CHANGE, I WOULD
00:22:14.46\00:22:18.07
DON'T THAT. BECAUSE
NOW I'M ACCOUNTABLE.
00:22:18.07\00:22:20.90
THE SIN OF CO-MISSION.
I'M ACCOUNTABLE NOW FOR
00:22:20.90\00:22:24.97
PARTICIPATING IN THAT. >>
RONNY WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?
00:22:24.97\00:22:27.91
>> I WAS THINKING VERY SIMILAR
TO WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
00:22:27.91\00:22:31.98
WHENEVER A CHURCH HAS GONE SO
FAR AWAY FROM THE WORLD OF GOD,
00:22:31.98\00:22:35.88
THERE IS A TIME WHERE YOU HAVE
TO SAY I CAN NO LONGER BE A PART
00:22:35.88\00:22:39.19
OF THIS. YOU MAY
SPEAK TO THE PASTOR, THE
00:22:39.19\00:22:42.56
ELDERS OF THE CHURCH, GET THE
LEADERSHIP TOGETHER AND SAY THIS
00:22:42.56\00:22:45.83
IS WHAT I SEE GOING ON.
I CAN'T BE PART OF THIS.
00:22:45.83\00:22:49.30
AND MAYBE SOME OTHERS
ARE THINKING THE SAME THING.
00:22:49.30\00:22:51.97
>> RIGHT. >> THEY
MAY NOT BE THE ONLY ONE
00:22:51.97\00:22:55.94
THINKING THAT. BUT AT
SOME POINT IF THE CHURCH
00:22:55.94\00:22:58.57
DOES NOT DEAL WITH IT CORRECTLY,
BIBLICALLY THEN IT'S TIME TO
00:22:58.57\00:23:04.88
LEAVE. >> BUT
IF I UNDERSTOOD THE
00:23:04.88\00:23:07.65
QUESTION, IT'S THAT THE PERSON
IS WANTING TO COME INTO THEIR
00:23:07.65\00:23:10.59
CHURCH, BUT IT WAS A
HYPOTHETICAL ABOUT WHAT IF IN
00:23:10.59\00:23:14.72
THE FUTURE THIS
PERSON SHOULD WANT TO MARRY.
00:23:14.72\00:23:18.13
I THNK WE HAVE TO BE SO
CAREFUL -- GOD IS SO LOVING AND
00:23:18.13\00:23:23.70
OPENINGLY --
RECEIVES US FOR WHO WE ARE.
00:23:23.70\00:23:27.60
WE ALSO TO BE OPEN AND
LOVING TO RECEIVE PEOPLE.
00:23:27.60\00:23:32.27
NOW GOD DOESN'T LEAVE US IN OUR
STATE OF SIN, BECAUSE JESUS CAME
00:23:32.27\00:23:35.91
TO DESTROY THE
WORKS OF THE DEVIL.
00:23:35.91\00:23:38.25
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> SO I THINK THAT WE
00:23:38.25\00:23:40.25
NEED -- YOU KNOW, I KNOW
THAT -- AT A CHURCH THAT WE WENT
00:23:40.25\00:23:44.52
TO IN DALLAS, TEXAS, THERE WERE
ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT HOMOSEXUALS
00:23:44.52\00:23:50.89
WHO CAME INTO THE
CHURCH. AND WE LOVED ON THEM.
00:23:50.89\00:23:53.73
>> IN THE RIGHT
WAY, I MIGHT ADD.
00:23:53.73\00:23:57.23
>> RIGHT. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:23:57.23\00:23:58.50
>> JUST SO NO ONE IS CONFUSED.
>> BUT MY POINT IS, THAT FIVE
00:23:58.50\00:24:04.07
STAYED AND THE OTHERS LEFT,
AND ALL FIVE WENT STRAIGHT.
00:24:04.07\00:24:07.48
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
FOUR OF THOSE FIVE HAD
00:24:07.48\00:24:11.05
BEEN SEXUALLY
ABUSED AS CHILDREN.
00:24:11.05\00:24:14.42
VERY CONFUSED. VERY WOUNDED.
00:24:14.42\00:24:16.75
VERY HURT. AND THE
INTERESTING THING THAT I
00:24:16.75\00:24:18.85
WAS READING RECENTLY, WHEN IT
COMES TO TRANSGENDER PEOPLE, OR
00:24:18.85\00:24:22.89
PEOPLE HAVING THESE SEXUAL
CHANGES, A LOT OF TIMES THEY HAD
00:24:22.89\00:24:27.20
BEEN INFLUENCED AT AN EARLY AGE,
AND PARENTS HAVE GONE AHEAD AND
00:24:27.20\00:24:32.77
SAID, WELL, IF YOU THINK
THAT'S IT -- THEY START THEM ON
00:24:32.77\00:24:38.87
HORMONES AND DO
THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
00:24:38.87\00:24:41.41
SADLY, THEY HAVE MORE THAN
TRIPLE THE SUICIDE RATE OF EVEN
00:24:41.41\00:24:46.58
OVER HOMOSEXUALS, AND
THEN -- AND WITHIN TEN
00:24:46.58\00:24:50.65
YEARS -- LIKE I FORGET -- IT WAS
A HIGH PERCENTAGE, CLOSE TO 90%
00:24:50.65\00:24:54.89
OF THEM ARE REGRETTING.
THE FIRST FEW YEARS IT'S LIKE
00:24:54.89\00:24:59.23
OKAY, BUT THEN THEY BEGIN
REGRETTING AND WISH THEY HAD
00:24:59.23\00:25:02.56
NEVER DONE IT. >> I
THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS
00:25:02.56\00:25:05.90
WHAT WE KIND OF SAID EARLIER
ABOUT THE UNITED STATES WHEN
00:25:05.90\00:25:09.64
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE BECAME LAW
OF THE LAND, BUT AS LONG AS A
00:25:09.64\00:25:13.24
PERSON COMES IN, WHETHER THEY
ARE TRANSGENDER -- NO MATTER
00:25:13.24\00:25:17.88
WHAT THEY CALL THEMSELVES, AND
THEY ARE SEEKING TRUTH, AND WANT
00:25:17.88\00:25:24.05
HELP, WE SHOULD HELP THEM.
BUT WE DON'T CONDONE WHAT THEY
00:25:24.05\00:25:28.49
ARE DOING, BY
PUTTING THEM IN LEADERSHIP.
00:25:28.49\00:25:31.09
BUT THAT'S WHAT A CHURCH
IS ALL ABOUT IS FOR SINNER.
00:25:31.09\00:25:34.56
THAT'S WHY I GO TO CHURCH.
IF I WERE PERFECT, I WOULDN'T
00:25:34.56\00:25:38.47
GO. I GO BECAUSE I'M A SINNER,
00:25:38.47\00:25:40.97
RIGHT? SO I
THINK, AGAIN, WE NEED TO
00:25:40.97\00:25:43.20
LOVE EVERYBODY. INCLUDING THESE.
00:25:43.20\00:25:45.44
I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW -- I MEAN
TO ME I WOULD BE HONEST, THAT'S
00:25:45.44\00:25:50.81
FINE, BUT I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY
IN WITH MY GRANDDAUGHTER OR
00:25:50.81\00:25:55.38
TRINITY OR SOMEBODY ELSE, WHO
IS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX SAYING I
00:25:55.38\00:25:59.25
FEEL LIKE A WOMAN TODAY.
I'M JUST NOT GOING TO GO FOR
00:25:59.25\00:26:03.76
THAT. WHATEVER
THEIR NEEDS ARE -- WE
00:26:03.76\00:26:05.63
ALL HAVE NEEDS SO WE NEED TO
BE SYMPATHETIC WITH OTHERS, BUT
00:26:05.63\00:26:11.33
DON'T ENFORCE OR
SUPPORT WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
00:26:11.33\00:26:14.10
>> MAY I SA SOMETHING
THAT IS JUST IN MY HEART.
00:26:14.10\00:26:17.11
>> UH-HUH. >> AS I
SAID, WE NEED TO BE
00:26:17.11\00:26:20.41
LOVING, BUT AT YOUR CHURCH
IF YOU SAY, HAVE A PEDOPHILE WHO
00:26:20.41\00:26:24.61
SHOWS UP, AND MAYBE THEY HAVE
SERVED TIME, AND THEY ARE OUT,
00:26:24.61\00:26:28.75
AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CHANGE,
AND YOU SEE A CHANGE IN THEM,
00:26:28.75\00:26:32.79
AND WELCOME THEM IN TO LOVE THEM
WITH A SPIRITUAL LOVE, BUT DO
00:26:32.79\00:26:40.96
NOT BECOME NAIVE. I
THINK THAT ANY TIME -- IF A
00:26:40.96\00:26:44.60
PEDOPHILE WERE TO JOIN THE
CHURCH -- I MEAN, WONDERFUL, BUT
00:26:44.60\00:26:49.44
YOU SHOULD ASSIGN
THEM A BATHROOM PARTNER.
00:26:49.44\00:26:52.61
THEY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED
TO GO INTO A BATHROOM ALONE.
00:26:52.61\00:26:56.54
WE NEED TO BE -- HOW
-- GENTLE AS A DOVE BUT --
00:26:56.54\00:27:02.38
>> WISE AS A SERPENT -- >>
YES, AND HARMLESS AS A DOVE.
00:27:02.38\00:27:06.22
>> ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> ACCOUNTABILITY.
00:27:06.22\00:27:08.09
>> I CAN TELL A LITTLE
STORY LIKE THAT AT OUR CHURCH IN
00:27:08.09\00:27:12.03
OKLAHOMA. I HAD
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
00:27:12.03\00:27:13.66
A MAN WHO HAD SERVED QUITE A BIT
OF TIME FOR CHILD PEDOPHILIA.
00:27:13.66\00:27:18.60
AND HE WAS COMING TO OUR CHURCH,
AND EVERYTHING WAS GOING JUST
00:27:18.60\00:27:23.61
GREAT UNTIL I SAW HIM ROUGH
HOUSING WITH ONE OF THE BOYS OF
00:27:23.61\00:27:27.18
THE CHURCH, A YOUNG BOY.
AND I FELT I HAD TO TALK TO THE
00:27:27.18\00:27:31.31
MAN. I SAID WE LOVE YOU HERE.
00:27:31.31\00:27:33.85
WE'RE GLAD THAT YOU ARE COMING.
WE HOPE YOU WON'T BE OFFENDED,
00:27:33.85\00:27:37.72
BUT AS A GUARDIAN OF THE FLOCK,
AS THE SHEPHERD OF THE FLOCK,
00:27:37.72\00:27:43.43
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
TO STEP BACK FROM THE KIDS.
00:27:43.43\00:27:46.06
I SAID I HOPE
YOU ARE NOT OFFENDED.
00:27:46.06\00:27:48.46
WE LOVE YOU HERE. WE
HOPE YOU'LL KEEP COMING, BUT
00:27:48.46\00:27:52.17
WHEN YOU ARE HERE, YOU
NEED TO STEP BACK FROM THE KIDS.
00:27:52.17\00:27:55.70
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
BECAUSE WE ARE THE SHEPPARDS
00:27:55.70\00:27:59.44
OF THE FLOCK, AND WE HAVE
TO WATCH OUT FOR THE KIDS.
00:27:59.44\00:28:03.68
AND HE DIDN'T COME BACK TO MY
CHURCH NO MORE, BUT HE WENT TO
00:28:03.68\00:28:08.55
ANOTHER ONE OF THE ADVENTIST
CHURCHES, WHICH WAS GOOD.
00:28:08.55\00:28:12.72
BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT
AND STAND FOR WHAT IS WRITE.
00:28:12.72\00:28:16.42
>> SOMEONE JUST WROTE IN, AND
I SHOULD HAVE SAI THIS ALREADY,
00:28:16.42\00:28:21.93
BUT DARE TO DREAM HAS SOME
GREAT PROGRAMMING COMING OUT.
00:28:21.93\00:28:26.43
IT IS A NUMBER OF
PEOPLE, GAY AND LESBIANS WHO
00:28:26.43\00:28:31.97
REALLY -- REALLY WEE IN
THAT LIFESTYLE AND LIVED IT FOR
00:28:31.97\00:28:35.04
YEARS, BUT CAME TO THE LORD
AND NOW IT'S THEIR MISSION AND
00:28:35.04\00:28:38.25
MINISTRY TO HELP OTHERS WHO ARE
THERE, SO HELP SAY, LOOK, YOU
00:28:38.25\00:28:42.35
CAN OVER COME THIS.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN'T
00:28:42.35\00:28:46.15
OVERCOME, BECAUSE GOD CAN
GIVE YOU VICTORY OVER SIN.
00:28:46.15\00:28:50.56
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
WATCH DARE TO DREAM, LOOK UP THE
00:28:50.56\00:28:55.80
COMING OUT MINISTRIES.
THIS CALLER -- WE'LL TRY TO GET
00:28:55.80\00:29:00.07
THROUGH A FEW MORE QUESTIONS.
WOW, THE TIME IS GOING SO FAST.
00:29:00.07\00:29:04.21
THIS ONE SAYS IS THERE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR REPENTANCE IF
00:29:04.21\00:29:08.74
YOU MISSED THE
RAPTURE? [ LAUGHTER ]
00:29:08.74\00:29:13.48
>> OKAY. >> FIRST
OF ALL THERE IS NO
00:29:13.48\00:29:16.02
RAPTURE. THERE IS
NO SECRET RAPTURE, AND
00:29:16.02\00:29:18.32
I THINK THAT'S MORE SPECIFICALLY
WHAT THE PERSON IS TALKING
00:29:18.32\00:29:21.82
ABOUT. THERE'S
NO SECRET RAPTURE.
00:29:21.82\00:29:24.29
>> I HOPE YOU
HAVE SOME SCRIPTURE --
00:29:24.29\00:29:26.56
>> OH, A LOT OF SCRIPTURE.
>> THAT'S WIDELY, WIDELY --
00:29:26.56\00:29:29.86
>> I'LL START WITH THE OLD
TESTAMENT -- SHELLEY GO TO FIRST
00:29:29.86\00:29:35.87
THESSALONIANS -- >>
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR,
00:29:35.87\00:29:39.54
AND MY MIND WENT BLANK. >>
THIS WA STARTED BY FRANCISCO
00:29:39.54\00:29:45.18
AND LOUISE WHO
WERE COMMISSIONED --
00:29:45.18\00:29:47.95
>> JESUIT PRIESTS. >>
JESUIT PRIESTS TO TAKE THE
00:29:47.95\00:29:53.52
EYES OF THE PEOPLE OFF OF THE
CHURCH OF ROME IN THE DARK AGES.
00:29:53.52\00:29:57.53
AND THE ANTICHRIST WHO THEY
IDENTIFIED CLEARLY, THE CHURCH
00:29:57.53\00:30:02.96
OF ROME
IDENTIFIED EVERY CATEGORY.
00:30:02.96\00:30:05.37
EVERY CATEGORY FIT. TO
GET THE PEOPLE'S EYES OFF OF
00:30:05.37\00:30:09.60
THE CHURCH THEY COMMISSIONED TWO
JESUIT PREACHES TO SAY WHERE ARE
00:30:09.60\00:30:17.18
THEY GOING TO FIT?
ALL OF THE PROPHECIES OF
00:30:17.18\00:30:25.25
REVELATION HAPPENED
ABOUT THE ANTICHRIST.
00:30:25.25\00:30:27.32
SO THEY POINTED TO THE FUTURE
AND SAID, WELL, THIS ANTICHRIST
00:30:27.32\00:30:30.89
IS GOING TO COME IN THE
FUTURE AFTER THE RAPTURE, SO
00:30:30.89\00:30:35.46
THEY -- THEY
CHOSE A A -- PROPHECY.
00:30:35.46\00:30:47.41
SO ONLY BY CHOOSING THE
WRONG DATE IN DANIEL 9 ABOUT THE
00:30:47.41\00:30:49.21
REBUILDING OF JERUSALEM, THEY
SAID, WELL, WE FALL ONE WEEK
00:30:49.21\00:30:53.08
SHORT OF THIS PROPHECY BEING
FULFILLED, AND THEN THEY SAID AT
00:30:53.08\00:30:56.42
THE BEGINNING OF THIS WEEK,
WAY IN THE FUTURE, THE CHURCH IS
00:30:56.42\00:31:01.29
GOING TO BE STHACH -- SNATCHED
AWAY, THE ANTICHRIST IS GOING TO
00:31:01.29\00:31:08.43
MAKE A PLEDGE OR PACT WITH
THE JEWS AND THE WORLD WILL BE
00:31:08.43\00:31:13.37
CONVERTED. EVEN THE
CONTEMPORARIES -- A MAN-BY THE
NAME OF -- OH, HIS NAME
00:31:13.37\00:31:19.14
JUST ESCAPED MY MIND.
CYRUS SCOFIELD, WHICH WE HAVE
00:31:19.14\00:31:32.22
THE SCOFIELD BIBLE. TODAY
IT'S AMAZING -- IT'S NOT A
00:31:32.22\00:31:39.03
SCRIPTURAL TEACHING.
THERE IS NO SECRET SNATCHING
00:31:39.03\00:31:42.30
AWAY OF THE CHURCH. >>
SO IF SOMEBODY IS VIEWING,
00:31:42.30\00:31:46.10
THEY CAN'T TURN TO CERTAIN
SCRIPTURES AND SAY THIS IS THE
00:31:46.10\00:31:50.01
SECRET RAPTURE. >> YEAH.
00:31:50.01\00:31:52.61
OKAY. >> GO AHEAD.
00:31:52.61\00:31:53.58
>> LET ME JUST READ THIS ONE
TO YOU, AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
00:31:53.58\00:31:57.68
SCRIPTURE. I'M
GOING TO GIVE YOU TWO
00:31:57.68\00:32:02.55
ACTUALLY. 1ST
THESSALONIANS CHAPTER 4,
00:32:02.55\00:32:07.36
BEGINNING WITH VERSE 15, IT SAYS
FOR WE SAY THIS TO YOU, BY THE
00:32:07.36\00:32:13.36
WORD OF THE LORD THAT WE WHO ARE
LIVE AND REMAIN UNTIL THE COMING
00:32:13.36\00:32:19.17
OF THE LORD JESUS, WILL BE
NO MEANS PRECEDE THOSE WHO ARE
00:32:19.17\00:32:25.11
ASLEEP. LET ME STOP HERE.
00:32:25.11\00:32:26.88
THERE IS GOING TO BE
TWO CATEGORIES OF PEOPLE.
00:32:26.88\00:32:30.45
THE BIBLE THROUGHOUT THE
BIBLE IS TALKING ABOUT THERE ARE
00:32:30.45\00:32:33.98
PEOPLE WHO ARE SLEEPING, JESUS
SAID IN JOHN 28 ALL WHO ARE IN
00:32:33.98\00:32:39.82
THE GRAVE WILL HEAR MY VOICE.
SO THE BIBLE REFERS TO DEATH AS
00:32:39.82\00:32:47.93
A SLEEP. YOU GO
TO SLEEP AND THE NEXT
00:32:47.93\00:32:52.00
CONTRA SPOT YOU HAVE IS
JESUS -- YOU HEAR JESUS VOICE.
00:32:52.00\00:32:55.60
BUT HERE HE IS SAYING THERE WILL
BE THOSE PEOPLE AND THEN THERE
00:32:55.60\00:32:59.81
WILL BE PEOPLE WHO
ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN.
00:32:59.81\00:33:02.91
THOSE WHO ARE ALIVE AND
REAIN AT THE COMING OF THE LORD,
00:33:02.91\00:33:07.85
AREN'T GOING TO GO
INTO CHRIS'S PRESENCE.
00:33:07.85\00:33:12.55
FOR THE LORD HIMSELF WILL
DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A
00:33:12.55\00:33:17.49
SHOUT. WITH
VOICE OF AN ARC ANGEL.
00:33:17.49\00:33:20.96
DOES THIS SOUND
LIKE A SECRET RAPTURE IN
00:33:20.96\00:33:23.20
>> NO. >> THE
LIGHTEN WILL GO AS FAR AS
00:33:23.20\00:33:26.10
FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST,
AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HIM.
00:33:26.10\00:33:31.21
EVERY EYE WILL SEE
HIM. THERE'S EARTHQUAKES.
00:33:31.21\00:33:34.41
IT'S LOUD WITH A SHOUT OF AN
ARC ANGEL, WHEN WE ARE ALIVE AND
00:33:34.41\00:33:48.82
REMAIN SHALL BE CAUGHT UP TO
MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR, AND
00:33:48.82\00:33:54.00
THUS, WE SHALL
ALWAYS BE WITH THE LORD.
00:33:54.00\00:33:56.30
SO I -- WHEN I GIGGLED ABOUT THE
QUESTION, IT IS BECAUSE I WAS
00:33:56.30\00:34:01.17
TAUGHT, AND MANY YEARS BELIEVED
IN A SECET RAPTURE AND THIS IS
00:34:01.17\00:34:06.14
THE SCRIPTURE THAT
JUST -- I COULD NOT --
00:34:06.14\00:34:10.68
>> OPENED YOUR EYES. >> YES.
00:34:10.68\00:34:13.45
THIS IS THE SCRIPTURE
THAT OPENED UP MY MIND.
00:34:13.45\00:34:15.65
>> AND IF WE BACKED UP A COUPLE
OF VERSES, SHELLEY, I LIKE TO
00:34:15.65\00:34:20.19
START WITH VERSE 13.
PAUL SAYS I WANT YOU TO KNOW
00:34:20.19\00:34:23.29
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE.
HE SAYS I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO
00:34:23.29\00:34:26.63
BE IGNORANT, BUT I DO NOT WANT
YOU TO BE IGNORANT BRETHREN,
00:34:26.63\00:34:32.60
CONCERNING THOSE WHO HAVE FALLEN
ASLEEP, LEST THOSE WHO HAVE
00:34:32.60\00:34:40.44
FALLEN ASLEEP. NOT
THOSE WHO HAVE GONE ON TO
00:34:40.44\00:34:43.81
HEAVEN. AND
SOMETHING THAT DEBUNKS THAT
00:34:43.81\00:34:46.68
WHOLE THING, PASTOR
JOHN IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
00:34:46.68\00:34:49.22
IF YOU DIED AND WENT TO HEAVEN,
WHY DOES JESUS NEED TO COME
00:34:49.22\00:34:53.52
BACK? >> HE DOESN'T.
00:34:53.52\00:34:54.59
>> HE DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK.
WHEN HE COMES BACK HE IS COMING
00:34:54.59\00:35:03.30
BACK FOR THOSE WHO ARE SAVED,
AND TAKE BACK THOSE ALIVE AND
00:35:03.30\00:35:07.07
LIVING FOR HIM. AND
EVERYBODY BELIEVES IN THE
00:35:07.07\00:35:09.57
SECOND COMING, BUT WHY
IF YOU ARE ALREADY THERE?
00:35:09.57\00:35:12.34
AND IF THOSE WHO ARE LIVING DIE
GO THERE, WHY DOES HE NEED TO
00:35:12.34\00:35:16.54
COME BACK? >> HERE
IS THE MOST POPULAR ONE
00:35:16.54\00:35:21.38
I BELIEVE. LET NOT
YI HEART BE TROUBLED IN
00:35:21.38\00:35:25.82
MANY FATHER'S
HOUSE ARE IN MANSIONS.
00:35:25.82\00:35:28.36
NOW GET THIS, I GO TO
PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU.
00:35:28.36\00:35:31.76
WHAT IS HE DOING?
PREPARING A PLACE.
00:35:31.76\00:35:35.06
IF I GO, AND IF I GO TO PREPARE
A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME
00:35:35.06\00:35:39.67
AGAIN AND RECEIVE YOU.
HE DIDN'T SAY COME JOIN ME
00:35:39.67\00:35:44.11
THERE. I WILL
COME AGAIN AND RECEIVE
00:35:44.11\00:35:46.88
YOU TO MYSELF THAT WHERE
I AM, THERE YOU MAY BE ALSO.
00:35:46.88\00:35:52.98
NOW THAT'S JOHN 14:1-3.
AND IN JOHN 13 HE SAID THIS
00:35:52.98\00:35:58.25
TWICE -- WHY DID HE SAY I'M
COMING AGAIN TO RECEIVE YOU?
00:35:58.25\00:36:05.23
BUT WHAT DID HE SAY IN JOHN
13, WHERE I AM GOING, YOU CANNOT
00:36:05.23\00:36:10.27
COME. >> OKAY.
00:36:10.27\00:36:10.90
>> AND THEN HE SAYS?
VERSE 36 OF JOHN 13, WHERE I AM
00:36:10.90\00:36:15.54
GOING, YOU CANNOT
FOLLOW ME. YOU CAN'T FOLLOW ME.
00:36:15.54\00:36:19.27
WELL, HOW ARE YOU
GOING TO GET THERE?
00:36:19.27\00:36:21.84
I WILL COME
AGAIN TO RECEIVE YOU.
00:36:21.84\00:36:27.25
[ INAUDIBLE ] 50, OUR GOD SHALL
COME AND SHALL NOT KEEP SILENT.
00:36:27.25\00:36:33.15
A FIRE SHALL DEVOUR FOR HIM.
SO IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SILENT.
00:36:33.15\00:36:40.66
THERE'S NO SECRET RAPTURE THAT
WAS A THEORY ESPOUSED BY THE
00:36:40.66\00:36:48.07
CHURCH. AND
"NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC" DID A
00:36:48.07\00:36:50.67
DOCUMENTARY ON THE SECRET
RAPTURE, AND THEY SAID MILLIONS
00:36:50.67\00:36:53.91
OF CHRISTIANS HAVE
EMBRACED A BELIEF THAT HAS NO BY
00:36:53.91\00:37:02.65
-- BIBLICAL
SUPPORT. >> THAT MEANS IF YOU
00:37:02.65\00:37:06.05
FOLLOW -- YOU DIE, THAT MEANS
YOU ARE NOT GOING WITH HIM.
00:37:06.05\00:37:09.69
HE SAYS HE IS GOING
TO COME BACK TO GET YOU.
00:37:09.69\00:37:16.26
BECAUSE THIS CORRUPTION
MUST END, AND THEN CAN WE GO.
00:37:16.26\00:37:20.74
BECAUSE PEOPLE ALSO WITH THAT
RAPTURE, A LOT OF FOLK BELIEVE
00:37:20.74\00:37:24.47
WHEN YOU DIE YOU GO IMMEDIATELY
TO HEAVEN OR HELL SO THAT
00:37:24.47\00:37:30.15
SCRIPTURE IS
VERY SOLID WITH THAT.
00:37:30.15\00:37:31.95
>> AND TH ONE THEY USE THE
MOST, PROBABLY -- ONE OF THE
00:37:31.95\00:37:36.12
MOST IS THAT HE COMES
AS A THIEF IN TH NIGHT.
00:37:36.12\00:37:39.15
HE IS GOING TO SLIP IN, AND SLIP
BACK OUT, BUT IF WE UNDERSTAND
00:37:39.15\00:37:43.46
THE CONTEXT OF THAT, IF WE READ
THE RET OF THAT VERSE IT SAYS
00:37:43.46\00:37:48.73
AND THE EARTH SHALL BE
DESTROYED WITH A GREAT NOISE.
00:37:48.73\00:37:51.67
AND ALL OF THAT
IS IN THE SAME VERSE.
00:37:51.67\00:37:54.17
>> THAT SIMPLY MEANS HE IS
NOT GOING TO SEN YOU A NOTICE.
00:37:54.17\00:37:57.27
>> YEAH, AND THERE HE IS TALKING
ABOUT HOW HE COMES AS A THIEF.
00:37:57.27\00:38:01.78
PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE, THE ARE
NOT EXPECTING HIM, THEY ARE NOT
00:38:01.78\00:38:05.75
LOOKING FOR HIM.
THAT'S THE WAY A THIEF BREAKS
00:38:05.75\00:38:09.75
IN. >> BUT THE
RAPTURE SCRIPTURE A
00:38:09.75\00:38:12.85
LOT OF FOLK USE TWO PEOPLE AT
THE MILL, ONE WILL BE GRIENING,
00:38:12.85\00:38:17.86
ONE TAKEN AWAY, TWO MEN --
AND THE BAD ONE WILL BE TAKEN.
00:38:17.86\00:38:24.47
I GOT IN TROUBLE A FEW YEARS
AGO, WHEN I SAID, WELL, NEITHER
00:38:24.47\00:38:29.97
ONE IS GOING. AND I
GOT IN TROUBLE FOR IT.
00:38:29.97\00:38:32.67
>> AND YOU JUST
SAID IT AGAIN. >> YEAH.
00:38:32.67\00:38:34.91
I JUST SAID IT AGAIN. BUT
I THINK THOSE ARE SCRIPTURES
00:38:34.91\00:38:38.01
THAT PEOPLE HEAR
THAT -- >> UH-HUH.
00:38:38.01\00:38:42.12
AND THAT ONE IS SO
EASY TO ELABORATE ON.
00:38:42.12\00:38:44.89
IT DOESN'T SAY THE ONE THAT
IS LEFT IS LEFT ALIVE TO GO ON
00:38:44.89\00:38:50.16
LIVING. IT SAYS THAT ARE
NOT SAVED ARE -DESTROYED BY THE
00:38:50.16\00:38:56.40
BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING.
HE DIDN'T GO ON LIVING FOR
00:38:56.40\00:38:58.93
ANOTHER SEVEN
YEARS. IT WAS OVER.
00:38:58.93\00:39:01.97
>> ALL RIGHT. >>
YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF AN
00:39:01.97\00:39:06.21
IMMORTAL SOUL WAS BROUGHT IN
AND INTRODUCED ABOUT 197 AD, AND
00:39:06.21\00:39:13.95
THIS WAS BROUGHT IN BY A PAGAN
PHILOSOPHER WHO CONVERTED TO
00:39:13.95\00:39:20.99
CHRISTIANITY, AND HE WAS A
FOLLOWER OF PLATO AND SOCRATES.
00:39:20.99\00:39:26.53
AND THIS IS WHERE -- WHEN YOU
BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE SO MANY
00:39:26.53\00:39:30.93
MYTHS IN THE CHURCH THAT ARE
BEING TAUGHT AS DOCTRINE, BUT I
00:39:30.93\00:39:39.71
WANTED TO READ 1
KRIN THREEIANS 15.
00:39:39.71\00:39:42.98
PAUL IS SAYING, BEHOLD, I TELL
YOU A MYSTERY, WE SHALL NOT ALL
00:39:42.98\00:39:49.05
SLEEP, BUT WE SHALL ALL
BE CHANGED, SO SLEEP HE IS
00:39:49.05\00:39:53.72
REFERRING TO DEATH. IT
SAYS IN A MOMENT, IN THE
00:39:53.72\00:39:57.56
TWINKLING OF AN EYE, AT THE LAST
TRUMPET THAT'S WHEN WE ARE GOING
00:39:57.56\00:40:01.83
TO BE CHANGED. FOR THE
TRUMPET WILL SOUND, WHEN
00:40:01.83\00:40:06.94
THE TRUMPET SOUNDS THIS IS WHEN
JESUS CHRIST IS RETURNING, AND
00:40:06.94\00:40:11.87
THE DEAD WILL BE RAISED
INCORRUPTIBLE, AND WE SHALL BE
00:40:11.87\00:40:16.51
CHANGED, FOR THIS CORRUPTIBLE
MUST PUT ON INCORRUPTION, AND
00:40:16.51\00:40:20.42
THIS -- MORTAL
MUST PUT ON IMMORTALITY.
00:40:20.42\00:40:30.83
GOD ALONE IS IMMORTAL. SO
WE PUT ON IMMORTALITY AT THEN
00:40:30.83\00:40:35.63
OF THE TIME, AND IT SAYS
WHEN THIS CORRUPTION HAS PUT ON
00:40:35.63\00:40:42.27
INCORRUPTION, AND WHEN THIS
MORTAL PUTS ON IMMORTALITY, THEN
00:40:42.27\00:40:51.25
DEATH IS
SWALLOWED UP IN VICTORY.
00:40:51.25\00:40:54.02
SO IT IS ALL PART
AND PARCEL, I BELIEVE.
00:40:54.02\00:40:58.39
I WAS TAUGHT, YOU DIE,
YOU GO STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN.
00:40:58.39\00:41:01.66
I WAS TAUGHT -- I
BELIEVED IN THIS SECRET RAPTURE.
00:41:01.66\00:41:08.33
AND PEOPLE WOULD SAY ARE
YOU PREMILLENNIALIST OR POST
00:41:08.33\00:41:17.37
MILLENNIALIST? AND
I THOUGHT WHO CARES.
00:41:17.37\00:41:20.81
AND NONE OF IT -- NONE OF IT
CAN BE SUPPORTED BY THE BIBLE.
00:41:20.81\00:41:26.18
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
00:41:26.18\00:41:27.65
LET'S SEE. WE HAVE
GOT -- JUST ONLY HAVE
00:41:27.65\00:41:30.39
ABOUT 15 MINUTES
LEFT. >> I'M TEMPTED TO KEEP
00:41:30.39\00:41:33.59
ANSWERING, BUT
I'M GOING TO STOP.
00:41:33.59\00:41:35.29
>> ALL RIGHT. HOW
CAN I KNOW IF I HAVE
00:41:35.29\00:41:38.46
COMMITTED THE UNPARDONABLE SIN
OR GRIEVED AWAY THE HOLY SPIRIT.
00:41:38.46\00:41:43.47
>> IF YOU ARE ASKING
THAT QUESTION, YOU HAVEN'T.
00:41:43.47\00:41:46.53
>> RIGHT. >> THE
LORD IS SPEAKING TO THAT
00:41:46.53\00:41:48.64
INDIVIDUAL RIGHT NOW. IF
YOU ARE EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT
00:41:48.64\00:41:52.74
WHETHER OR NOT YOU COMMITTED THE
IMPARDONABLE SIN, YOU HAVEN'T.
00:41:52.74\00:41:57.28
THE IMPARDONABLE SIN IS JUST
PERSISTENTLY REFUSING TO HAVE
00:41:57.28\00:42:02.92
THE SPIRIT -- CONTINUALLY
REJECTING THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN
00:42:02.92\00:42:07.19
YOUR LIFE. THE HOLY
SPIRIT IS THE ONE BY
00:42:07.19\00:42:10.46
WHICH WE ARE SEALED. WHEN
YOU SHUT YOUR VOICE OFF TO
00:42:10.46\00:42:14.73
THE ONLY ONE, AND AS THE BIBLE
SAYS TO OPEN YOUR HEART TO THE
00:42:14.73\00:42:20.20
INVITATION OF CHRIST IN YOUR
LIFE, WHEN YOU SHUT THAT VOICE
00:42:20.20\00:42:23.34
OFF, YOU NO LONGER HERE CHRIST
SAYING COME TO BE FORGIVEN, COME
00:42:23.34\00:42:30.41
TO BE SAVED. SO IT IS
NOT A SIN OF A PHYSICAL
00:42:30.41\00:42:34.78
NATURE. AMAZINGLY
THOUGH, THE BIBLE SAYS
00:42:34.78\00:42:38.55
IF YOU SIN AGAINST
CHRIST IT WILL BE FORGIVEN.
00:42:38.55\00:42:42.72
WHAT IS THE SIN?
IT'S PERSISTENT REFUSAL.
00:42:42.72\00:42:46.83
THAT'S WHY REVELATION SEVEN
TIMES SAYS IF ANYONE HAS AN EAR
00:42:46.83\00:42:55.24
LET THEM HEAR WHAT THIS
SPIRIT SAYS FROM THE CHURCH.
00:42:55.24\00:43:03.38
>> ONE OF MY FAVORITE STORIES
IN THE BIBLE IS ABOUT KING
00:43:03.38\00:43:11.69
HEZEKIAH, AND HE WHALED AND
PLEADED WITH THE LORD, AND THE
00:43:11.69\00:43:18.83
LORD GAVE HIM ANOTHER 15 YEARS.
AND THEN MANASA IS A HORRIBLE,
00:43:18.83\00:43:27.50
HORRIBLE KING, AND THE BLOOD WAS
RUNNING THROUGH THE STREETS OF
00:43:27.50\00:43:32.04
JERUSALEM WHEN HE ACTUALLY
PASSED HIS OWN CHILDREN THROUGH
00:43:32.04\00:43:35.98
THE FIRE. HE DID
CHILD SACRIFICES.
00:43:35.98\00:43:40.42
HE WAS HORRIBLE. HE
TURNED ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN
00:43:40.42\00:43:45.35
THE KINGDOM AWAY FROM GOD.
AND THIS WAS THE MOST WICKED
00:43:45.35\00:43:51.43
MAN, AND GOD
LET HIM BE CAPTURED.
00:43:51.43\00:43:54.23
THEY TOOK HIM OFF
WITH A HOOK IN HIS NOSE.
00:43:54.23\00:43:56.67
AND IT'S LIKE WHEN
YOU GET TO THAT PART.
00:43:56.67\00:43:59.50
IT'S LIKE, YAY! GOD GOT HIM.
00:43:59.50\00:44:03.00
YOU KNOW? [ LAUGHTER ]
00:44:03.00\00:44:03.77
>> YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS?
WELL, HE IS IN CAPTIVITY.
00:44:03.77\00:44:08.28
THIS WICKED MAN WHO COMMITTED
INIQUITY FOR TWO MANY YEARS.
00:44:08.28\00:44:14.15
WHILE HE IS IN CAPTIVITY, HE
COMES TO HIMSELF AND ASKS GOD
00:44:14.15\00:44:18.59
FOR FORGIVENESS, AND NOT
ONLY DOES GOD FORGIVE HIM, GOD
00:44:18.59\00:44:24.16
DELIVERS HIM, RESTORES
THE KINGDOM TO HIM, AND THEN
00:44:24.16\00:44:27.60
HERE -- HERE IS
THE SAD PART, THOUGH.
00:44:27.60\00:44:32.80
MANASA WAS NOW A GOD-FEARING
MAN, AND HE TRIES TO -- HE TRIES
00:44:32.80\00:44:38.14
TO BREAK DOWN THE ALTERS.
HE TRIES TO TURN THE TIDES OF
00:44:38.14\00:44:42.51
WHAT HE HAD CREATED,
AND HE JUST NEVER COULD.
00:44:42.51\00:44:46.28
AND THEN MANASA DIED AND SLEPT
WITH HIS FATHERS IS WHAT THE
00:44:46.28\00:44:51.92
BIBLE SAYS. SO HE
-- HE HIMSELF -- HE WAS
00:44:51.92\00:44:55.82
SAVED BY GRACE, BUT HE -- WHAT
HE PUT INTO ACTION, HE COULDN'T
00:44:55.82\00:45:01.10
STOP. >> OKAY.
00:45:01.10\00:45:01.73
WE MAY HAVE TIME
FOR JUST ONE MORE.
00:45:01.73\00:45:04.20
IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT.
WE'LL DO IT AS QUICKLY AS WE
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CAN. THIS ONE,
DOES MAN HAVE A SOUL,
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PLEASE EXPLAIN,
BODY, SOUL, AND SPIRIT.
00:45:11.71\00:45:16.68
HOW DOES THAT
WORK? >> VERY SIMPLE.
00:45:16.68\00:45:20.92
>> GO AHEAD. >>
GENESIS 2:7, THE LORD GOD
00:45:20.92\00:45:25.89
FORMED MAN FROM
THE DUST OF THE GROUND.
00:45:25.89\00:45:28.99
BREATHED INTO HIS NOSTRILS THE
BREATH OF LIFE, AND MAN BECAME A
00:45:28.99\00:45:34.23
LIVING SOUL. >> SO
DOES MAN HAVE A SOUL OR HE
00:45:34.23\00:45:37.63
IS A SOUL. >> HE IS A SOUL.
00:45:37.63\00:45:39.60
>> HE IS A SOUL. >> THE
COMBINATION OF BODY PLUS
00:45:39.60\00:45:43.24
THE LIFE-GIVING BREATH OF
JESUS MAKES US A LIVING SOUL.
00:45:43.24\00:45:48.28
JOB 27:3 MAKES THAT VERY CLEAR.
BECAUSE THE LORD DIDN'T PUT A
00:45:48.28\00:45:53.31
SOUL INTO MAN. HE
CREATED MAN TO BE A LIVING
00:45:53.31\00:45:56.89
SOUL. SO THERE'S
NOTHING INSIDE OF ME
00:45:56.89\00:45:59.32
THAT'S JUST HANGING OUT THERE.
WAITING FOR ME TO DIE AND GO
00:45:59.32\00:46:05.36
SOMEPLACE ELSE.-EZEKIEL 18:4,
THE SOUL THAT IS IN US THAT
00:46:05.36\00:46:12.70
SHALL DIE. SO THERE'S NO
IMMORTAL SOUL. GO AHEAD,
SHELLEY, ADD TO THAT.
00:46:12.70\00:46:18.14
>> YEAH, AND IT'S MORE
LIKE A FIGURE OF SPEECH.
00:46:18.14\00:46:22.11
IN FIRST THESSALONIANS 5:23,
BEAUTIFUL SKRIMTURE, SAYS, NOW
00:46:22.11\00:46:29.02
MAY THE GOD OF PEACE HIMSELF
SANCTITIFY YOU COMPLETELY, AND
00:46:29.02\00:46:34.89
MAY YOUR WHOLE, SPIRIT, SOUL AND
BODY, THAT IS ALL OF MAN, THAT
00:46:34.89\00:46:40.56
IS INDIVISIBLE. IN
THAT IS ALL OF MAN, BUT IT'S
00:46:40.56\00:46:47.74
INDEVISIBLE. YOU
CAN'T HAVE A SOL WITHOUT
00:46:47.74\00:46:49.40
THE BODY, YOU CAN'T HAVE
A SPIRIT WITHOUT THE BODY.
00:46:49.40\00:46:54.58
MAY GOD
SANCTITIFY YOU COMPLETELY.
00:46:54.58\00:47:00.55
SO IT'S MORE OF A -- A
FIGURE OF SPEECH TO TALK ABOUT
00:47:00.55\00:47:07.82
COMPLETENESS. >> OKAY.
00:47:07.82\00:47:10.76
RONNY? >> I WAS
THINKING ABOUT YOU CAN
00:47:10.76\00:47:14.66
YOUR CARPENTRY BACKGROUND. A
TRUCK CAME OUT AND HE BRINGS A
00:47:14.66\00:47:19.87
BIG PILE OF LUMBER. WE
TAKE THE LUMBER AND THE NAILS
00:47:19.87\00:47:24.81
AND THE HAMMER AND THE
SAW, AND WE DRIVE A HOUSE.
00:47:24.81\00:47:29.18
BUT WE CAN TAKE THE CROWBAR AND
START PULLING THE BOARDS BACK
00:47:29.18\00:47:35.02
OFF, WELL, WHAT
HAPPENED TO THE HOUSE?
00:47:35.02\00:47:38.42
IT'S BACK TO THE
ELEMENTS WE STARTED WITH.
00:47:38.42\00:47:40.72
SAME THING AS THE BODY, YOU
KNOW, THE BREATH OF LIFE AND THE
00:47:40.72\00:47:45.23
BODY BECAME A LIVING SOUL.
BUT YOU SEPARATE THEM, AND THEN
00:47:45.23\00:47:48.20
THE SOUL IS GONE. >>
AND WE CAN USE -- PART OF
00:47:48.20\00:47:52.57
THEIR LAST
QUESTION WAS ABOUT HELL.
00:47:52.57\00:47:55.24
DOES IT BURN FOREVER.
AND YOU COULD USE THAT SAME
00:47:55.24\00:47:58.94
ILLUSTRATION THAT YOUR HOUSE
CATCHES ON FIRE, IT BURNS DOWN.
00:47:58.94\00:48:09.08
BUT IT DOESN'T BURN
FOREVER. IT IS GONE.
00:48:09.08\00:48:12.75
IT BURNS UP OR DOWN, AS
YOU SAY, THERE IS NOTHING LEFT.
00:48:12.75\00:48:18.43
BUT THAT'S A GRET ILLUSTRATION.
NAILS AND LUMBER MAKE A HOUSE,
00:48:18.43\00:48:22.86
BUT WHEN YOU TAKE THE NAILS AND
LUMBER, YOU JUST HAVE NAILS AND
00:48:22.86\00:48:26.90
LUMBER AND YOU DON'T
HAVE A HOUSE ANYMORE.
00:48:26.90\00:48:29.90
>> ROMANS 6:23. I USE
THAT SCRIPTURE -- I KNOW
00:48:29.90\00:48:36.31
MALACHI IS ANOTHER ONE.
MALACHI CHAPTER 4 -- CHAPTER 3.
00:48:36.31\00:48:43.18
>> I'LL GIVE NOTICE TO OUR CREW,
IF WE HAVE A CHANCE, IT MIGHT BE
00:48:43.18\00:48:48.82
GOOD TO END ON THIS GREAT SONG,
"PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME," AND
00:48:48.82\00:48:56.20
WE'LL DO THAT
AFTER THIS. BUT GO AHEAD.
00:48:56.20\00:48:59.10
>> I WAS TALKING ABOUT
IT, AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE
00:48:59.10\00:49:03.30
SONG -- IT JUST LEFT ME.
>> IN THE GREEK, EVER LASTING,
00:49:03.30\00:49:07.41
OR ETERNAL IS AONUS, AND IT
IS -- IT IS A RELATIVE TERM, IT
00:49:07.41\00:49:15.35
IS TERMED BY THE
OBJECT IT IS MODIFYING.
00:49:15.35\00:49:18.59
SO IF IT IS TALKING ABOUT
ETERNAL FIRE OF LIKE SODAM AND
00:49:18.59\00:49:26.23
GOMORRAH, IT SAYS IT IS AN
EXAMPLE OF ETERNAL FIRE, WELL,
00:49:26.23\00:49:31.03
BECAUSE IT WAS TALKING ABOUT
AN OBJECT THAT IS MORE TALL OR
00:49:31.03\00:49:37.34
PERISHABLE. SODDAM
AND GOMORRAH -- THOSE
00:49:37.34\00:49:40.74
CITIES AREN'T STILL ON
FIRE. SO WHE YOU USE AOWN US TO
00:49:40.74\00:49:46.01
DESCRIBE A MAN OR A CITY, THEN
THAT MEANS THE FIRE LASTS -- IT
00:49:46.01\00:49:50.45
HAS ETERNAL RESULTS. IT
LASTS AS LONG AS IT TAKES TO
00:49:50.45\00:49:55.92
DESTROY, FOR TOTAL DESTRUCTION.
IF YOU USE AONUS IN REFERENCE TO
00:49:55.92\00:50:02.93
GOD, THAT MEANS WITHOUT END.
SO IF YOU SAY ETERNAL OR EVER
00:50:02.93\00:50:07.84
LASTING LIFE. >>
THAT'S ANOTHER SUBJECT.
00:50:07.84\00:50:11.01
WE'LL WANT TO DO MORE
OF THESE BIBLE STUDIES.
00:50:11.01\00:50:16.21
SO WHY DON'T WE RIGHT NOW, AND
IN CLOSING, WE'LL MAYBE HAVE A
00:50:16.21\00:50:20.15
MINUTE OR SO LEFT, BUT WE WANT
TO GO TO YVONNE SINGING "PRAISE
00:50:20.15\00:50:28.22
HIS HOLY NAME." ¤
00:50:28.22\00:50:32.69
¤ PRAISE THE LORD ¤ ¤
FROM WHOM ALL THINGS FLOW ¤
00:51:29.82\00:51:43.23
¤ FOR HE HAS WASHED
AND MADE ME WHAT I KNOW ¤
00:51:43.23\00:51:56.38
¤ I'M REDEEMED ¤ ¤
OF MY SIN AND SHAME ¤
00:51:56.38\00:52:11.89
¤ FOR NOW AND FOREVER ¤
¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME ¤
00:52:11.89\00:52:23.30
¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME
¤ ¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME ¤
00:52:23.30\00:52:36.72
¤ TO GOD BE THE
GLORY NOW AND FOREVER ¤
00:52:36.72\00:52:44.53
¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME ¤
00:52:44.53\00:52:54.07
¤ ¤ GOD IS GREAT ¤
00:53:11.75\00:53:31.97
¤
00:53:31.97\00:53:44.55
¤ ¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME ¤
00:53:49.22\00:54:11.11
¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY
¤ ¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY ¤
00:54:11.11\00:54:21.49
¤ TO GOD BE THE
GLORY NOW AND FOREVER ¤
00:54:21.49\00:54:29.56
¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY ¤ ¤
PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME ¤
00:54:29.56\00:54:45.01
¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY NAME
¤ ¤ TO GOD BE THE GLORY ¤
00:54:45.01\00:54:52.95
¤ TO GOD BE THE GLORY
¤ ¤ TO GOD BE THE GLORY ¤
00:54:52.95\00:54:58.86
¤ TO GOD BE THE GLORY
¤ ¤ TO GOD BE TH GLORY ¤
00:54:58.86\00:55:07.70
¤ NOW AND FOREVER
¤ ¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY ¤
00:55:07.70\00:55:23.85
¤ HIS HOLY ¤ ¤ NAME ¤
00:55:23.85\00:55:30.46
¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY
¤ ¤ PRAISE HIS HOLY ¤
00:55:30.46\00:55:37.47
¤ PRAISE HIS NAME
¤ ¤ PRAISE HIS NAME ¤
00:55:37.47\00:55:50.58
¤ TO GOD BE THE
GLORY ¤ ¤ NOW AND FOREVER ¤
00:55:50.58\00:55:58.95
¤ PRAISE ¤ ¤ HIS ¤
00:55:58.95\00:56:06.83
¤ HOLY NAME ¤
00:56:06.83\00:56:13.13
[ CHEERS AND
APPLAUSE ] >> ALLELUIA!
00:56:16.71\00:56:17.64
>> AMEN. PRAISE THE LORD.
00:56:20.08\00:56:21.61
>> AMEN. >> THANK YOU YVONNE.
00:56:21.61\00:56:24.55
JUST BEAUTIFUL.
WHAT A WONDERFUL TALENT.
00:56:24.55\00:56:29.32
AND WE WANT TO THANK
YOU FOR JOINING US HERE.
00:56:29.32\00:56:31.52
AND WE DID TO
DO THIS MORE OFTEN.
00:56:31.52\00:56:34.92
DO MORE OF THE LIVE BIBLE STUDY
AND LET YOU ALL DICTATE WHAT OUR
00:56:34.92\00:56:39.73
CONVERSATIONS ARE. I
WANT TO THANK YOU AIL -- ALL
00:56:39.73\00:56:45.43
FOR BEING HERE, AND WHAT YOU DO
FOR THE CAUSE OF GOD ON EARTH.
00:56:45.43\00:56:50.51
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU AT HOME,
I KNOW GOD HAS CALLED YOU FOR
00:56:50.51\00:56:55.58
SOMETHING BIG. OUR
TIME IS ALL GONE FOR
00:56:55.58\00:56:58.75
TONIGHT, BUT UNTIL WE SEE
YOU THE NEXT TIME, MAY THE LORD
00:56:58.75\00:57:06.09
RICHLY BLESS YOU ABUNDANTLY
MORE THAN YOU COULD ASK.
00:57:06.09\00:57:09.42
>> AMEN. ¤
00:57:09.42\00:57:13.29