Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Laura Sommerfield, Lonnie Melashenko
Series Code: TL
Program Code: TL017516B
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00:06 ♪ >> AND WE ARE BACK, 3ABN "TODAY
00:15 LIVE." I'M CA MURRAY, MY GUEST PASTOR 00:18 LONNIE MELASHENKO. AND WE PULLED A LITTLE TRICK ON 00:21 HIM AT THING OF THE FIRST HOUR, BUT I THINK YOU CAN FORGIVE US.->> THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST 00:27 THINGS THAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME IN A LONG TIME, OTHER THAN MY 00:30 WIFE. BEFORE YOU WENT TO THE BREAK, 00:33 ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT IS GIFTED UNIQUELY IS JEANIE. 00:39 SHE WORKED FOR A COUNSELOR YEARS AGO. 00:43 HE WROTE BOOKS AND SO FORTH. HE SAID SHE SHOULD BE A 00:48 COUNSELOR, BECAUSE SHE IS INTUITIVE. 00:50 AND SHE IS SO EMPATHETIC WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HURTING AND 00:54 SO FORTH. AND GOD HAS GIVEN HER THAT KIND 00:57 OF A GIFT. AND SHE READS ME LIKE A BOOK. 01:01 >> PRAISE THE LORD. SO WE'RE HAPPY THAT LAURA IS 01:06 MAKING SUCH GREAT PROGRESS, AND YOU STAYED IN COMMUNICATION WITH 01:10 HER. I THINK SHE NEEDS SOMEONE TO 01:13 BOUNCE THINGS OFF OF. >> YES. 01:15 AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO A BOOK THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE WITNESS 01:20 THROUGH THIS KIND OF EXCHANGE. SOME THINGS OBVIOUSLY I MIGHT 01:24 HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY, OR OTHERS WOULD HAVE SAID YOU SHOULD HAVE 01:27 DONE IT THIS WAY, BUT GOD LEADS EVERY PERSN UNIQUELY. 01:32 >> AMEN. >> WALTER SAID GOD MADE US 01:38 NEAP NEAPOLITAN. 01:39 >> WELL SAID, YES, INDEED. AND THE LORD GAVE YOU THE 01:44 SENSITIVITY TO KNOW THAT THOUGH YOUR PREACHING HAS CHALLENGED 01:49 LONG-HELD BELIEFS IN HER LIFE, EVEN THOUGH HER INITIAL EMAIL 01:54 CHALLENGED YOU A LITTLE BIT, YOU SAW THROUGH THAT TO A PERSON WHO 01:57 WAS IN NEED, LOOKING AND SEARCHING, AND THAT BEGAN THESE 02:03 EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH. >> IT'S THAT EMPATHY AND ACUTE 02:08 AWARENESS FOR -- THAT THIS PERSON MIGHT BE JUST AS UGLY AND 02:13 OBTUSE AND AS -- AS WRONG AS ANYBODY. 02:16 YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO GO THERE. BUT JESUS REMINDS US THAT HIS 02:20 LOVE WANTS TO REACH OUT TO THE MOST UNPROMISING, UNLIKELY 02:26 CANDIDATES AND MARY MAGDALEN WAS EXHIBIT A. 02:33 EVERYBODY ELSE WAS READY TO STONE HER. 02:35 JESUS SAW POTENTIAL. >> YES. 02:37 >> AND I JUST THANK GOD THAT HE GIVES US THAT ACUTE SENSITIVITY 02:42 WHEN IT'S NEEDED. >> YES. 02:44 >> WHO WOULD HAVE KNOWN? I MEAN I COUD HAVE WRITTEN HER 02:48 OFF AS SOMEBODY -- OH, SHE HAS GOT SOME PROBLEMS.-pI'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE. 02:53 I'M RETIRED. I CAN LET SOMEBODY ELSE TAKE 02:56 CARE OF THAT. BUT GOD DOES NOT LET US RETIRE 03:00 FROM BEING HIS REPRESENTATIVE. >> AND GIVEN PER PARTICULAR 03:04 BACKGROUND, HAVING HAD SUCH A NEGATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH MEN. 03:09 HAD YOU BLOWN HER OFF, THE KIND OF DAMAGE THAT THAT WOULD HAVE 03:12 DONE, GIVEN THAT SHE IS REACHING OUT FOR THE FIRST TIME TO A MAN 03:16 SHE RESPECTS. >> VERY INTUITIVE, YOU ARE 03:21 ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. >> YEAH. 03:22 PRAISE THE LORD. WE WANT TO GO TO OUR MUSIC FOR 03:26 THE SECOND HOUR, AND THEN I WANT TO WADE THROUGH THIS PILE OF 03:31 STUFF YOU HAVE HERE. >> I'M SO EXCITED I CAN HARDLY 03:36 WAIT TO HEAR MICE SPEAK. [ LAUGHTER ] 03:40 >> VERY GOOD. OUR MUSIC AGAIN IS COMING FROM 03:43 OUR FOUNDER, PRESIDENT, AND FRIEND DANNY SHELTON. 03:48 THIS IS TITLED "THERE'S POWER IN THE NAME OF JESUS." 03:51 ♪ 04:09 ♪ THERE'S NO NAME SO DEAR TO ME ♪ 04:18 ♪ AS THE NAME OF JESUS ♪ ♪ I'LL CAST MY EVERY CARE ON 04:35 HIM ♪ ♪ I'LL LAY THEM AT HIS FEET ♪ 04:43 ♪ THERE'S POWER IN THE NAME OF JESUS ♪ 04:51 ♪ THERE'S VICTORY IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB ♪ 05:01 ♪ THERE'S FEELING IN THE NAME OF JESUS ♪ 05:10 ♪ MY MASTER, MY SAVIOR, MY FRIEND ♪ 05:24 ♪ EMMANUEL, GOD WITH US ♪ ♪ WITH POWER TO TOUCH AND SAVE ♪ 05:44 ♪ JESUS, LORD ABOVE ♪ ♪ HE'S WORTHY OF OUR PRAISE ♪ 05:58 ♪ THERE'S POWER IN THE NAME OF JESUS ♪ 06:06 ♪ THERE'S VICTORY IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB ♪ 06:15 ♪ THERE'S HEALING IN THE NAME OF JESUS ♪ 06:21 ♪ OF JESUS ♪ ♪ MY MASTER, MY SAVIOR, MY 06:27 FRIEND ♪ ♪ THERE IS POWER IN HIS LOVELY 06:40 NAME ♪ 06:50 >> AMEN. WELL DONE. 06:53 POWER IN THE NAME OF JESUS. SO VERY, VERY TRUE. 06:56 >> AMEN. >> I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS 06:59 IDEA OF PRODUCING THE BOOK THAT IS THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE 07:06 BETWEEN HE AND LAURA. AND THAT WOULD BE A BOOK I WOULD 07:10 READ. >> IF A CHAPTER WAS ENTITLED MY 07:14 PRIEST SLAPPED ME TODAY. YOU WOULD WANT TO KNOW WHAT 07:19 HAPPENED. >> EXACTLY. 07:20 AND IF YOU PUT TRANSITIONAL THINGS, IT CAN BE A -- A -- SORT 07:26 OF A -- A SYLLABUS FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO KNOW HOW TO GIVE A BIBLE 07:31 STUDY IN THIS MODERN AGE. >> SEASON WHO IS A BIBLE 07:36 INSTRUCTOR OR HAS TAUGHT THIS KIND OF THING. 07:38 I DON'T MIND IF THEY CEYLONNY COULD HAVE GONE THIS WAY, BUT 07:46 GOD MUST HAVE DIRECTED HIM IN THIS WAY. 07:49 I THINK IT WOULD BE INTERESTING, ESPECIALLY TO SEE THE THINGS 07:53 THAT HAVE HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY. 07:55 SHE HAS GROWN FROM A TINY SEED INTO A BEAUTIFUL LAURA. 08:00 >> AMEN, AND AMEN, AND AMEN. WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT -- AND 08:05 THE GET TO NOW. THE IDEA OF TOOLS THAT MAKE IT 08:08 EASY FOR YOU, OR TAKE SOME OF THE DRAMA AND TRAUMA OUT OF 08:13 GIVING BIBLE STUDIES OR SHARING YOUR FAITH OR WITNESSING FOR THE 08:18 LORD. WE HAVE THE GO EVANGELISM TOOL. 08:32 AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT ASSIST YOU. 08:34 AND YOU HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THEE TOOLS. 08:36 >> I WORK AS A REVIVALIST AND I GO TO CHURCHES OFTEN WITH 08:45 HOMECOMINGS AND MANY CAMP MEETING TIME TYPES OF THINGS, 08:49 AND CAMP MEETINGS, AND ONE OF MY PASSIONS IS TO IGNITE A PASSION 08:53 ON THE PART OF THE LAYMAN TO RECOGNIZE THAT JESUS SAID IF YOU 08:58 DO NOT SHARE THIS, THE VERY ROCKS WILL CRY OUT. 09:02 MANY PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THEY CAN'T JUST SIT IN THE PEWS AND 09:09 TWIDDLE THEIR THUMBS. THAT DOESN'T WORK. 09:11 AND MANY OF THESE TOOLS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS. 09:16 I'M EXCITED THEY ARE NOT ADVENTIST PRODUCED A LOT ARE 09:23 CATHOLIC, JEWS, CHURCH OF LIFE, TELLING THE VERY DOCTRINES THAT 09:29 ARE BASIC SCRIPTURE. FOR EXAMPLE, RECENTLY ONE OF THE 09:34 GREATEST HOLLYWOOD AWARD-WINNING PRODUCERS, WHO IS A DEDICATED 09:39 ROMAN CATHOLIC. HE DECIDED THE HEALTH SYSTEMS IN 09:43 AMERICA ARE SPIRALLING OUT -- THE WHITE HOUSE GOT 09:45 INVOLVED AND HILARY TRIED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS, AND OBAMA IS 09:50 DOING DIFFERENT THINGS. WELL, LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT 09:53 HEALTH CARE, AND HE DISCOVERED THE ADVENTISTS HAVE BEEN ARRANGE 09:57 SINCE THE DAYS OF JOHN HARVEY KELLOGG AND SO FORTH, AND THEY 10:02 HAVE SOME OF THE HIGHEST RATINGS ACCORDING TO THE NIELSEN 10:07 RATINGS, THEY ARE THE BEST PROVIDERS OF HEALTHCARE IN 10:10 AMERICA. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE? 10:12 HOW DID THEY BEGIN? HE DID A SERIES CALLED THE 10:18 ADVENTIST. MARTIN DONORMEYER IS A PBS 10:25 BROADCASTER, AND WHEN HE DOES A DOCUMENTARY -- FOR INSTANCE HE 10:29 DID A DOCUMENTARY ON THOSE KIDS THAT ARE AMISH THAT THE WHOLE 10:34 SCHOOL WAS KILLED BY THESE MURDERERS, AND HOW THE AMISH 10:40 FORGAVE THE KILLERS. HE HAS DONE THOSE KIND OF 10:46 DOCUMENTARIES THAT HAVE BECOME CLASSICS IN HOLLYWOOD. 10:49 HE DID ONE ON THEED A -- ADVENTISTS. 10:56 AND HE WENT BACK AND TALKED ABOUT THE DISAPPOINTMENT OF 11:01 1844, AND IT'S A POWERFUL DOCUMENTARY ON THE BASIC 11:07 TEACHINGS. >> IT IS. 11:08 >> BY THE WAY, I'M ON HERE FOR 1.5 SECONDS. 11:12 BUT I DON'T SAY ANYTHING. IF YOU BLINK YOUR EYES, YOU WILL 11:17 MISS ME. I HAPPENED TO BE AT KETTERING 11:22 CHURCH. AND HE PUT ME ON THERE. 11:24 I PUSH THIS BIG TIME. HE IS SO IMPESSED WITH 11:29 ADVENTISTS, THAT HE DID ADVENTISTS TWO, ABOUT MANY 11:33 DOCTORS AND HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS WHO SPENDING THEIR 11:37 VACATIONS AND THEY GO PA PARAGUAY, AND ZAMBIA, AND THAT'S 11:54 ADVENTIST TWO. THAT THEY GO ON VACATION TO HELP 11:59 OTHER PEOPLE.-AND THEN HE WENT TO A NUMBER OF OUR ADVENTIST CHURCH SCHOOLS, 12:05 AND BASICALLY SAID TO THE WORLD, IF YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO NOT BE 12:11 KILLING EACH OTHER, SEND YOUR KIDS TO AN ADVENTIST SCHOOL. 12:17 SO TO ME THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST AMAZING TOOLS FROM THE EYES OF A 12:22 CATHOLIC. >> YEAH, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THE 12:28 ADVENTIST. MARTIN DOES THOROUGH 12:32 DOCUMENTARIES. HE COMES OUT WITH A 12:36 WELL-PRODUCED, VERY, VERY PERSUASIVE, CONVINCING, LOGICAL, 12:41 SEQUENTIAL PRODUCT, AND IF THERE IS SOMEONE -- AND THIS CAN 12:44 APPEAL TO SOMEONE WHO IS VERY SIMPLE AND EASY GOING OR SOMEONE 12:48 WHO IS EDUCATED A PhD, A DOCTOR, IT WILL FEED AND FILL AND INFORM 12:56 ANYONE IN THAT CONTINUUM. THIS IS GOOD MATERIAL, VERY 13:00 CONVINCING AND SOMETHING YOU CAN BE PROUD TO PUT IN THE HANDS OF 13:04 SOMEONE THAT THEY WILL WATCH AGAIN AND AGAIN. 13:10 >> EXHIBIT A KETTERING HOSPITAL IS ONE OF THOSE TOP HOSPITALS, 13:14 KINKING THE NIELSEN RATINGS SEVERAL TIMES, THE BEST PROVIDER 13:19 OF HEALTH CARE IN NORTH AMERICA, AND WE HAVE TAKEN OVER A NUMBER 13:23 OF HOSPITALS THAT WERE GOING UNDER. 13:25 THEY ARE BEGGING US, WOULD YOU JUST LET US BECOME PART OF YOU, 13:30 BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY GOD IS DIRECTING SOMETHING. 13:32 SOME OF THESE HOSPITALS ARE RUN BY MER -- MORMONS OR JEWS OR 13:41 OTHER FAITHS, AND HOW DO WE PUT OUR ARMS AROUND HIS DIFFERENT 13:46 FAITHS. THEY ARE AFRAID, WE ALL HAVE TO -BECOME ADVENTISTS. 13:53 WE WOULD SHOW THAT MOVIE TO THE ENTIRE STAFF. 13:57 IF THAT'S WHO ADVENTISTS ARE, WE CAN RELAX. 14:01 WE WANT TO BUY INTO THAT. SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL 14:04 TESTIMONY. ONE OF THE OTHERS, IF I CAN JUMP 14:07 INTO THIS REAL QUICK. >> OH, YES. 14:10 >> IS MOST FOLKS WILL RECOGNIZE THE PICTURE ON THIS BOOK. 14:14 SENATOR JOE LIEBERMAN. HE RAN FOR THE VICE PRESIDENT OF 14:18 THE UNITED STATES A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND THERE WAS A LOT 14:21 OF QUESTIONS ABOUT AN ORTHODOX JEW. 14:24 WHAT IF THE PRESIDENT DIED AND HE HAD TO TAKE CHARGE, BECAUSE 14:30 HE WOULDN'T EVEN RIDE IN A CAR DURING JOHN F. KENNEDY'S 14:40 FUNERAL. THIS IS A BOOK CALLED THE GIFT 14:42 OF REST, REDISCOVERING THE BEAUTY OF THE SABBATH. 14:47 >> PRAISE THE LORD. >> FROM A JEW. 14:51 5,000 YEARS OF RABBIS AND ORTHODOX PRIESTS TO TELL ABOUT 14:56 THE BEAUTY OF THE SABBATH. OPRAH WINFREY HAS GONE BONKERS 15:03 OVER THIS. THIS WAS NOT WRITTEN BY AN 15:08 ADVENTIST. MINISTERS HAVE EVEN SAID TO ME, 15:12 THEY WILL NEVER KEEP THE SABBATH THE SAME. 15:15 IT'S BEAUTIFUL. AND THAT IDEA OF EVERY SEVEN 15:18 DAYS IS IN THE ANIMAL KINGDOM, IN ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN TERMS 15:23 OF THE AGRICULTURE OF OUR COUNTRY, AND HE CAPTURES ALL OF 15:28 THAT. >> WHERE CAN THEY GET THAT? 15:30 >> GO ONLINE TO AMAZON.COM, GOOGLE IT, AND I HAVE 15:37 GOTTEN -- GIVEN AWAY SO MANY, I'M LUCKY I STILL HAVE ONE LEFT. 15:42 BUT THAT'S ANOTHER GREAT TOOL.-AND I JUST HAVE TO SAY A WARD ABOUT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 15:49 NOT TOO LONG AGO ON THIS BROADCAST. 15:53 WE BROUGHT YVONNE LEWIS, WHEN THE POPE CAME TO WASHINGTON TO 16:00 ADDRESS THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS, THERE IS A YOUNG LADY 16:07 WHO'S NAME IS YOLANDA [ INAUDIBLE ]. 16:14 JOAN RIVER DUBBED YOLANDA THE LADY OF JINGLES. 16:22 NOBODY HAS DONE SO MANY JINGLES AS YOLANDA.-SHE WAS A JEZEBEL. 16:31 SHE WAS A HEATH AN. SHE DID NOT CARE ABOUT GOD. 16:35 SHE BECAME A DEDICATED CONSERVATIVE BORN-AGAIN 16:39 CHRISTIAN. SHE MARRIED THE CHIEF OF 16:42 CARDIOLOGY IN LOS ANGELES, AND BOTH OF THEM ARE BRILLIANT 16:46 MUSICIANS. >> OH, YES. 16:47 >> THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME INCREDIBLE MUSIC, AND WE 16:51 PRESENTED THIS AT THE NATIONAL CATHEDRAL IN WASHINGTON JUST 16:54 ABOUT THE TIME THE POPE CAME WHEN HE WAS GOING TO ANNOUNCE 16:58 HIS FAMILY DAY IN PHILADELPHIA. I HAPPENED TO BE THERE THAT WEEK 17:03 HE WAS IN PHILADELPHIA, BUT WE DID THIS ADVENTISTS COULDN'T 17:07 COME -- IF THEY WANTED TO COME, THEY HAD TO INVITE SOMEBODY FROM 17:12 CAPITAL HILL, THE WHITE HOUSE THAT WERE AMBASSADOR OR LAWYERS 17:15 OR ATTORNEYS, WORKED FOR SENATORS, CONGRESSMEN, 2400 17:20 PEOPLE PACKED THE NATIONAL CATHEDRAL, LISTENED TO YOLANDA 17:26 PHILLIPS, AND OTHERS, AND WE HAD CONGRESSMAN BERRY BLACK, 17:30 CHAPLAIN OF THE U.S. SENATE WAS THE CO-HOST WITH ME. 17:34 HE LATER SAID THAT HE RECOGNIZED AT LEAST 300 PEOPLE FROM CAPITOL 17:40 HILL THAT WERE IN THAT AUDIENCE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THIS ON. 17:44 WE WANTED TO GO TO ENGLAND WHEN DANNY AND YOUR TEAM WERE OVER 17:47 THERE LAST YEAR. >> UH-HUH. 17:50 >> BUT THEY TOLD US BECAUSE OF THE TERRORISM THAT WAS GOING ON, 17:53 THAT WE SHOULDN'T COME THIS TIME. 17:55 WE WERE HOPING TO INVITE THE QUEEN, BECAUSE WE BELIEVED THIS 17:58 NEEDS TO BE -- AND IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE SPIRIT OF PRO 18:02 PROPHECIES THAT PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES, THE LEGISLATURES, THEY 18:07 NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF GOD'S TEN 18:12 COMMANDMENT LAW. WE WERE HOPING TO TAKE THIS TO 18:15 SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE. WE'RE BRINGING IT TO THE 18:19 KETTERING NETWORK. AND I JUST TALKED WITH YOLANDA 18:24 TODAY. WE'RE SO PROUD THAT SHE TOGETHER 18:27 WITH YOUR OWN JOHN LOMACANG, AND-YOUR OW -- >> YVONNE. 18:36 >> YVONNE LEWIS, THEY HAVE PUT TOGETHER A GROUP OF BIBLE 18:44 STUDIES TO BE DONE IN SCHOOLS AND WHEREVER, THEY JUST PUT 18:48 TOGETHER AND ARE EDITING AS WE SPEAK 100 ADDITIONAL SONGS, TEN 18:56 FOR EACH COMMANDMENT AND THE LESSON IS ALL DONE IN MUSIC. 19:00 >> UH-HUH. >> THERE IS A WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, 19:04 LOVE AT WORK MUSICAL. >> YEAH. 19:06 >> THEY ARE NOT READY TO SELL ALL OF THEM YET. 19:09 BUT IF YOU GO ONLINE, YOU CAN FIND THE INFORMATION AND GET 19:13 THOSE, AND EVEN GET THE TEN COMMANDMENTS MUSICAL. 19:16 YOU MAYBE WON'T GET TO WASHINGTON OR THE SYDNEY OPERA 19:20 HOUSE, BUT YOU CAN DO THAT, AND HAVE THOSE FOLLOW-UP STUDIES 19:24 WITH 100 MUSIC -- BY THE WAY THIS IS NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL 19:30 GOSPEL MUSIC. THIS IS HIGH-CLASSICAL -- IT'S 19:34 ALMOST LIKE OPERA. THESE FOLKS DO SOME INCREDIBLY 19:40 BEAUTIFUL MUSIC. WHITLEY PHIPPS. 19:44 HE IS ON THERE. >> UH-HUH. 19:45 >> THAT IS ONE OF THE LATEST NE TOOLS. 19:48 AND IT'S NOT FOR EVERYBODY, BUT AS YOU SAID, ALL CLASSES OF 19:52 PEOPLE CAN ENJOY IT. BUT THIS WE HOPE WOULD REACH A 20:01 PERSON THAT LIKES QUALITY CLASSICAL MUSIC. 20:05 SO THAT'S A NEW TOOL. >> LOOKING AT THE VOICES, THOSE 20:10 ARE SOME OF THE BEST WE HAVE IN ADVENTTISM, AND JUST A NICE 20:16 TOOL, VERY, VERY WELL DONE. AND YOU DO SOME NARRATION. 20:21 >> I DO. CHARLES AND READ -- AND 20:23 OTHERS -- >> YOU HAVE GOT THE VOICES. 20:25 THAT'S A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD PROJECT. 20:28 >> JEANIE AND I DON'T GO TO THE MOVIES, BUT ON OCCASION THERE 20:32 ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE COMING OUT RIGHT NOW THAT ARE PRETTY 20:36 AMAZING. THIS CAME OUT IN THE THEATERS, 20:39 ALL KINDS OF REWARDS AND NOMINATIONS. 20:43 MEL GIBSON DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT DESMOND DOSS. 20:54 THE ONLY PERSON EVER TO RECEIVE THE CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR 20:58 WHEN HE WOULD NOT CARRY ARMS. THAT MOVIE -- I DON'T WANT TO BE 21:04 CRITICAL, BUT IT DIDN'T RECEIVE THE AWARDS THAT I THOUGHT IT 21:08 WOULD. THEY HAD SOME FICTIONAL THINGS 21:11 IN THERE INSTEAD. BUT I KNOW WHY, BECAUSE IT HAD A 21:15 BEAUTIFUL -- IT WAS ABOUT A SPIRITUAL CONVICTION ON THIS 21:20 PERSON, AND HOLLYWOOD'S LIBERAL FOLKS DON'T LIKE THAT. 21:24 THEY WANT SOMETHING SECULAR. SO THE NEW YORKER MAGAZINE, THEY 21:29 SAID THIS IS PORNOGRAPHICALLY VIOLENT. 21:32 IT DOES SHOW VIOLENT. BUT IT'S NOT THE MOST VIOLENT 21:37 MOVIE THEY HAVE DONE IN HOLLYWOOD, BUT THAT WAS ONE OF 21:41 THE WORST WARS WE HAVE HAD OVER THERE. 21:44 DESMOND DOSS, DID YOU EVER MEET HIM? 21:47 >> I DID. >> I DID TOO. 21:49 HE WAS A PERSONAL FRIEND OF JEANIE'S AND MINE. 21:53 AND I BOUGHT THIS IN COSCO. PILES WITH THEM. 21:57 YOU OUGHT TO SHARE THEM WITH YOUR FRIENDS. 22:00 YOU DON'T WANT TO WATCH IT AT NIGHTTIME. 22:03 BUT JEANIE AND I WEPT IN THE THEATER WHEN WE WATCHED THIS. 22:07 FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHO SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS ARE, AND 22:10 THAT THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO OUR COUNTRY, THEY ARE WILLING TO 22:14 BE SOLDIERS, BUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HE RESCUED -- THEY SHOW 22:18 IT BEAUTIFULLY. AND THEY SHOW -- IN FACT MEL 22:23 GIBSON, WENT ON -- JEANIE WATCHED HIM ON AN INTERVIEW O -pTHE INTERNET. 22:27 BY THE WAY ALL OF THE ACTORS WERE FROM AUSTRALIA, AND THEY 22:32 DON'T HAVE ANY ENGLISH PROBLEMS. THEY HAVE AMERICAN ACCENTS. 22:36 >> YEAH. >> BUT THEY WERE SO IMPRESSED, 22:38 THEY WENT BACK AND THE ACTOR WHO PORTRAYED DESMOND DOS, HE WENT 22:46 TO HIS HOME AND TRIED TO CAPTURE WHO HE WAS. 22:50 AND THE GRANDKIDS AND THE KIDS SAID TO MEL GIBSON, YOU 22:54 PORTRAYED OUR DAD JUST LIKE HE WAS. 22:56 AND MOM, THAT WAS MOM. >> YEAH. 22:59 SO I AM PROUD OF THIS KIND OF MOVIE, BUT IT'S SO -- BUT IT'S 23:06 POWERFUL. >> IT IS POWERFUL AND STRONG. 23:09 AND MY WIFE AND I ARE ALSO NOT MOVIE GOERS BUT WE DID GO TO 23:17 THAT ONE. HERE IS WHAT I NOTICE THESE ARE 23:21 TOE IN THE WATER KIND OF TOOLS. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 23:26 >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE WHO IS OF A SECULAR MIND 23:30 SET, SOMEONE WHO IS A SKEPTICAL -- A SKEPTIC ABOUT 23:35 BEING PREACHED TO -- >> YES. 23:38 >> THESE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN SAY, HEY, JUST 23:43 WATCH THIS. AND IT CRACKS THE DOOR A LITTLE 23:46 BIT, AND SOFTENS THE HEART. THEY MAY HAVE HEARD THE NAME 23:52 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, BUT THESE KIND OF THINGS WILL PULL 23:53 DOWN THOSE BARRIERS, AND THE LITTLE BRIDGE TO SALVATION THAT 24:00 MAYBE SOMETHING A LITTLE STRONGER MAY ERECT ANOTHER 24:06 BARRIER. >> LOOKING AT WHAT IS HAPPENING 24:08 IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW, IN NORTH KOREA, LAOS, AND SYRIA, THINGS 24:17 ARE NOT GETTING BETTER. THINGS ARE REALLY, REALLY 24:21 HEATING UP. AND THE PROPHETIC WORD OF GOD 24:25 SAYS IN THE LAST DAYS, I'M GOING TO RAISE UP DANIELS AND 24:30 JOSEPHS -- I DON'T THINK IT'S BY ACCIDENT THAT WE HAVE ATTENTION 24:35 COMING TO THIS COUNTRY THAT IVANKA TRUMP IS A SABBATH 24:41 KEEPER, DEDICATED ORTHODOX JEW. SHE WILL NOT ANSWER THE PHONE OR 24:47 THE DOORBELL, IF HE IS PRESIDENT CALLS HER, SHE KEEPS SABBATH. 24:52 I DON'T THINK IT'S BY ACCIDENT THAT DR. BEN CARSON WAS UP THERE 24:57 RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. I THINK GOD WANTS THOSE WHO ARE 25:02 HONESTLY SEARCH AS WAS LAURA, THEY ARE SENSING, THERE IS 25:06 SOMETHING MISSING IN MY CHURCH AND WHAT I NEED, THESE AS YOU 25:10 SAID ARE TOOLS TO HELP US, BUT I BELIEVE SOME OF THESE 25:14 INDIVIDUALS ARE UP THERE IN PROMINENT PLACES ON PURPOSE. 25:18 THAT GOD SAYS YOU WAIT. I JUST HEARD A PERSON WHO IS AN 25:23 UNDERGROUND EVANGELIST, I WON'T EVEN SAY HIS NAME INTO LAOS AND 25:28 CUBA, SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL EVANGELISTS, HILLARY CLINTON 25:41 WHEN SHE WAS SECRETARY OF STATE, WENT TO VIETNAM AND SAID SHOW ME 25:46 SOMETHING THAT COMMUNISM IS DOING FOR THIS COUNTRY. 25:49 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SHOWED HER? 25:52 ARE YOU READY FOR THIS? OUR PEOPLE, THE 49TH PARALLEL OF 25:57 SOUTH AND NORTH KOREA, THE PATH FINDERS AND YOUNG PEOPLE THAT 26:01 SEND UP BALLOONS, THEY ARE IMPRINTED WITH PAGES OF THE 26:05 SCRIPTURE, THEY HAVE MONEY AND PIECES OF FOOD THAT THEY CAN 26:09 EAT, AND THEY SEND THEM UP BY BALLOONS AND THEY FLOAT ACROSS 26:15 INTO NORTH KOREA. THIS PERSON GOES INTO NORTH 26:18 KOREA, VIETNAM IS THE NEXT TOUGHEST PLACE, AND BECAUSE OF 26:22 THAT MINISTRY THAT HAS IMPACTED THOSE PEOPLE THEY HAVE DECIDED 26:25 THE WAY TO REACH THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, I WILL NOT 26:29 DESCRIBE BATHROOM PROCEDURES HERE ON AIR, BUT IN MANY 26:35 PRIMITIVE COUNTRIES THEY GO TO THE RIVER AND TAKE A STICK AND 26:39 DRINK THE WATER AND SO FORTH, THEY HAVE NOW WHAT IS CALLED 26:42 BATHROOM CHURCHES. THEY HAVE DISCOVERED THAT IF 26:48 THEY HAVE A REULAR TOILET, MEN AND LADY'S SIDE, AND ISSUE 26:51 TICKETS YOU CAN COME TO THIS AT 10:00 TO 10 :15 IS YOUR TIME, 27:03 IT'S CALLED BATHROOM EVANGELISM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SUCH A 27:07 THING. THEY COME THERE, AND IT'S SO 27:09 WONDERFUL TO THEM, THEY TAKE THEIR SHOES OFF. 27:11 AND THEY GET TO FIND OUT ABOUT JESUS, AND THEY ARE CALLED 27:15 BATHROOM CHURCHES. AND HILLARY CLINTON WHEN SHE 27:19 ASKED WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR -- AS COMMUNISTS? 27:23 THEY SAID LOOK WHAT WE'RE DOING FOR YOUR PEOPLE WITH THESE 27:27 BATHROOMS. AND HILLARY CLINTON SAID YOU 27:32 WANT TO KNOW WHAT TO DO IN THESE COUNTRIES, GO TO THE ADVENTISTS. 27:37 THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 27:39 LONG STORY SHORT, PRAY ABOUT THIS, I NEED TO BE CAREFUL WHAT 27:43 I SAY, BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 70 YEARS, THEY ARE 27:48 HOPING TO HAVE EVANGELISTIC MEETINGS OVER THERE. 27:50 SOME OF OUR CHURCH LEADERS COULD NOT MEET EXCEPT IN PRIVATE 27:54 HOMES, BUT THEY ARE HOPING OF THE TEN INDIVIDUALS, THE 27:58 COMMUNISTS HAVE TO APPROVE AND SEND SERMONS OVER, AND YOU CAN'T 28:03 APPEAL OR ASK FOR CHURCH MEMBERSHIP, BUT I'M HOPING I'LL 28:09 GET TO GO. AND THAT'S COMING UP. 28:12 I HOPE I HAVEN'T SAID TOO MUCH, BUT GOD IS GOING TO USE 28:15 DIFFERENT THINGS IN THESE LAST DAYS WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE. 28:19 IT MIGHT EVEN BE BATHROOM EVANGELISM. 28:22 >> UH-HUH. UH-HUH. 28:25 AND WE HAVE COME TO A TIME WHERE GOD IS GOING TO TEAR DOWN THE 28:31 WALLS, AND EXPAND THE METHODOLOGIES THAT HE WILL 28:36 EMPLOY TO DO THE GOSPEL. AND IF WE GET CAUGHT UP ON HOW 28:42 CAN HE USE THIS PERSON? HE CAN USE A MEL GIBSON. 28:48 YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A PERFECT VESSEL TO BE USED -- 28:53 >> HE USED A DONKEY. >> EXACTLY. 28:56 [ LAUGHTER ] >> MEL GIBSON SAYS I WANT TO 29:00 MAKE A MOVIE ABOUT THAT. MA 29:05 MA MARTIN DOBERMEYER, AND OTHERS. 29:14 SO GOD WILL USE ANYONE AT ANYTIME AND ANYPLACE TO GET THE 29:18 MESSAGE OUT, AND NOW SENATOR LIEBERMAN WHO ALL OF US 29:23 NEW YORKERS KNOW, HE IS A JEWISH GUY, BUT HE IS SPEAKING THE 29:26 TRUTH, AND TRUTH IS COMING OUT OF -- OUT OF STRANGE MOUTHS, BUT 29:32 IT IS STILL TRUTH. >> THE ROCKS ARE CRYING OUT. 29:35 >> PRECISELY. >> YOU KNOW, ONE OF YOUR OTHER 29:39 BROADCASTERS, WE HAVE 3ABN, WE HAVE HOPE CHANNEL, WE HAVE 29:43 GOT -- HOPE TV -- >> AMAZE K FACTS. 29:46 >> AMAZING FACTS. CARLOS PEDARAS IS DOWN THERE IN 29:51 THE SOUTH -- >> YEAH. 29:52 >> WHAT IS THAT CALLED? >> OH, MY GOODNESS, I'M LOOKING 29:57 AT THE THING IN MY MIND. >> SAFE TV. 29:59 >> SAFE TV.-pHE AND HIS FRIEND WHO IS A NATIVE AMERICAN HAVE DISCOVERED 30:04 IN THE STATE OF IDAHO, AND THEY ARE READY TO ANNOUNCE THIS, I 30:09 SHOULDN'T SAY TOO MUCH -- BUT THEY HAVE DISCOVERED THE SABBATH 30:12 WAS KEPT IN HAWAII WITH THE EARLY HAWAIIANS UNTIL THE WHITE 30:17 MISSIONARY CAME AND TOLD THEM THEY WERE KEEPING THE WRONG DAY. 30:23 >> IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC THAT IS TRUE. 30:27 >> YEAH, THE SABBATH IS EMBEDDED IN HULA. 30:30 ST. PATRICK WAS A SABBATH KEEPER. 30:34 SABBATH HAD -- HE WAS A CATHOLIC PRIEST KEEPING THE SABBATH. 30:38 >> UH-HUH. >> AND THEY HAVE DISCOVERED 30:41 THROUGH HIEROGLYPHICS IN IDAHO, AN ANCIENT WOMAN HAS TAKEN AND 30:51 SHOWN HIEROGLYPHICS IN A CAVE THERE. 30:54 AND ETCHED THERE IN HIEROGLYPHICS, A BIG HALO AROUND 30:59 THE NUMBER 4 AND THE NUMBER 10. AND STORIES OF HOW GOD HAS COME 31:05 AND TOLD ABOUT JESUS AND HOW THE REFORMATION TOOK PLACE AND SO 31:10 FORTH IN INDIAN CULTURE. AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY KEPT 31:13 THE SABBATH. THE NATIVE AMERICANS OF NORTH 31:18 AMERICAN KEPT THE SABBATH UNTIL THE WHITE MEN CAME. 31:23 IN JERUSALEM SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE UNCOVERED 31:26 MAYBE THE ARCH OF THE COENANT AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE. 31:32 I BELIEVE THE EVIDENCE WILL BE SO CLEAR THAT A PERSON WILL HAVE 31:35 TO CHOOSE NOT TO BE SAVED. >> YES. 31:38 YES. >> SO 3ABN IS RIGHT AT THE FRONT 31:40 EDGE OF TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT OF THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT JESUS 31:44 AND THAT HE IS COMING SOON. >> YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU SO 31:50 VERY MUCH. AND DANNY SAYS IT OFTEN, WHAT A 31:53 WONDERFUL TIME TO LIVE, TO BE PARTNERED WITH GOD IN SHARING 31:59 THE GREATEST GIFT EVER GIVEN TO OUR FRAIL HANDS AND LIFTING UP 32:04 JESUS. BUT I THINK GOD IS GOING TO DO 32:08 MIRACULOUS THINGS TO GET THE IDEA OUT. 32:10 AND THIS IDEA OF TOTAL MEMBER INVOLVEMENT, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, 32:13 WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND OTHER NETWORKS ARE DOING, THIS IS AN 32:19 IDEA WHO'S TIME HAS COME. >> I KNOW THEY HAVE A COUPLE OF 32:24 GRAPHICS, AND I WANT TO LOOK AT MY LIST AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE 32:28 HAVE GOT. ONE OF THE BOOKS IS BILL HIBELS 32:37 WHICH IS THE BIGGEST CHURCH IN NORTH AMERICA. 32:41 AND HE HAS A BOOK CALLED -- YOU KNOW, WE THINK WE HAVE TO LEARN 32:44 ABOUT THE 2300 DAYS, AND I CAN'T WITNESS UNTIL I HAVE LEARNED ALL 32:48 OF THE THINGS THAT LAURA HAS LEARNED AND SO FORTH. 32:51 HE SAYS WHEN YOU ARE IN A POST OFFICE AND YOU SEE THAT LADY 32:55 GOING TO SEND A GIFT TO HER HUSBAND IN AFGHANISTAN OR IRAQ, 32:59 A LITTLE PACKAGE FROM THE GIRLS AND BOYS THAT ARE HIS KIDS, OR 33:04 HER KIDS, AND SHE DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE STAMP, 33:09 JUST WALK ACROSS THE ROOM. >> YES. 33:12 YES. >> YOU SEE THAT LADY ON FOOD 33:15 STAMPS IN THAT GROCERY LINE AND HER KID IS HUNGRY, AND SHE 33:20 DOESN'T HAVE FOOD STAMPS, JUST WALK ACROSS THE ROOM. 33:24 YOU READ HIS BOOK, AND I CHALLENGE YOU TO GE THROUGH THE 33:28 FIRST CHAPTER WITHOUT BALLING YOUR EYES OUT. 33:34 AND THEN JUST A SCRAP OF PAPER. THIS IS WRITTEN BY MY OWN 33:39 DIRECTOR OF THE WORLD BIBLE SCHOOL KURT JOHNSON. 33:41 >> SURE. >> IF YOU WANT TO HEAR UNUSUAL 33:44 STORIES ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY LEADERS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE 33:49 ON THIS TELECAST. YOU GET KIRK'S BOOK. 33:53 YOU WANT TO READ BEEN TEENY FINLEY AND ABOUT ABUSE IN HER 33:58 LIFE, JUST A SCRAP OF PAPER. POWERFUL WITNESSING TOOL. 34:03 WHAT ELSE HAVE WE GOT THERE. >> THUNDER IN THE HOLY LAND. 34:06 >> OH, THUNDER IN THE HOLY LAND.-pYOU ARE REALLY GETTING ME EXCITED ABOUT THIS, AND I'LL GET 34:14 EMOTIONAL. IN ALL OF THE HISTORY OF 34:20 ADVENTIST CHURCH, INCLUDING THE DAYS OF DAVID MILLER, WE HAVE 34:27 TROUBLE SOMETIMES GETTING PEOPLE TO LISTEN AND PAY ATTENTION. 34:31 OUR FRIENDS AT McKEE, THAT LITTLE DEBBIE, AND VICKY, THEY 34:36 HELPED IMPLANT THREE KIDS RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE IN THE HOLY LAND 34:40 AND THEY LIVED THERE FOR SIX MONTHS WITH FULL TELEVISION ARE 34:49 GAILIA. THE HOST CAN BE YOU. 34:50 IT CAN BE A LOCAL CONFERENCE OF EVANGELISTS, I WENT DOWN AND 34:57 PAID $12,000 OUT OF MY POCKET TO BE THE HOST OF THOSE KIDS. 35:02 THAT IS SUCH A NEW WAY TO PRESENT JESUS THROUGH THE MAJOR 35:08 DOCTRINE OF THE SCRIPTURES. WHENEVER JESUS SPOKE THUNDER 35:12 HAPPENED. >> UH-HUH. 35:13 >> SO THEY GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE. 35:16 HERE IS THE INCREDIBLE THING ABOUT THIS NEW SERIES, IT IS 35:20 DESIGNED TO SHOW IN YOUR HOME, INVITE YOUR HAIRDRESSER, THE 35:24 PERSON THAT CHECKS YOU OUT AT YOUR GROCERY STAND, THE PERSON 35:28 WHO SERVICES YOUR CAR, A HOME BIBLE STUDY, OF THE PEOPLE WHO 35:32 START COMING TO THAT, ARE YOU READY FOR THIS, 90% OF THEM ARE 35:36 SO HOOKED THEY WILL WATCH ALL 26 OF THEM. 35:40 90%, AND OF THOSE 60% ARE BAPTIZED. 35:43 >> THOSE ARE INCREDIBLE STAT ICKSES. 35:46 >> SO THIS IS JUST BEING LAUNCHED SINCE THE GENERAL 35:49 CONFERENCE IN TEXAS, SAN ANTONIO, AND IT'S BEING TAUGHT 35:53 IN OUR SEMINARY IN MICHGAN, AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING 35:57 THE HOST ON MY VERSION OF THEM, BUT THAT TO ME IS ONE OF THE 36:04 MOST EXCITING THINGS THAT IS HAPPENING NOW.-SHE IS GIVING THAT SERIES, AND I 36:09 HAVE SEEN PEOPLE BAPTIZED JUST BY WATCHING THEM. 36:14 AND THE PERSON LIKE MY DOCTOR IN KETTERING, OPENED HIS OFFICE ON 36:19 FRIDAY NIGHT SO PEOPLE COULD COME IN AND WATCH THESE. 36:22 >> WALK ME THROUGH THIS AGAIN. YOU CAN INSERT YOURSELF AS THE 36:26 HOST. >> YOU SHOULD BE ONE OF THOSE. 36:28 >> THAT'S INTERESTING. >> YEAH, YOU HAVE TO FLY DOWN TO 36:32 GEORGIA CUMBERLAND COLLEGE WITH CHARLES BIRD. 36:35 HE IS THE BRAINS BEHIND IT. HE IS THE DEFAULT PERSON. 36:42 AN EVANGELIST IN SASKATCHEWAN, HE PUTS HIMSELF IN THAT, AND 36:45 THEY START SHOWING THESE IN WINNIPEG AND SASKATOON AND 36:54 YORKTOWN, AND THEY SAY THE HOST OF THAT, HE IS GOING TO COME AND 36:59 HOLD A SERIES. YEAH, HE'S GOING TO BE HERE. 37:02 SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO START DOING WITH SOME OF MY MINISTRY. 37:06 >> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT -- >> NEW TOOL. 37:09 >> NEW TOOL. REALLY GOOD IDEA. 37:11 THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO INVESTIGATE, THUNDER IN THE HOLY 37:15 LAND. YOU HAVE GOT A LOT OF STUFF 37:18 HERE. >> PUT IT ON THE SCREEN ANYTHING 37:19 ELSE WE HAVE. >> WE HAVE LOVE AT WORK. 37:22 >> OH, YES. THIS IS MY ONE PREACHING BIBLE. 37:27 I MENTIONED IT EARLIER. THIS IS THE NEW KING JAMES. 37:36 IT DOESN'T HAVE THESE NOW.-pBUT THE STUDY HELPS AT THE BOTTOM. 37:41 THERE ARE ABOUT 40 OR 50 DIFFERENT SCHOLARS, THE BEST OF 37:45 THE BEST. I CAN'T WAIT, AND EVERY DAY I 37:48 LEARN SOMETHING NEW FROM THIS. >> AGREED. 37:50 >> SO IF YOU ARE WATCHING AND YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A CHRISTMAS 38:01 PRESIDENT OR BIRTHDAY PRESIDENT OR YOU JUST WANT TO READ IT, GET 38:05 THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST 38:06 BEAUTIFUL WAYS TO REDISCOVER JESUS IN THE SCRIPTURES. 38:11 >> YEAH, I HAVE TWO. ONE THAT IS A LITTLE LARGER THAN 38:15 THAT. AND SOMEHOW OVER THE LAST YER 38:17 OR TWO, THE WORDS SHRUNK, SO I BOUGHT THE BIGGEST VERSION THEY -pHAVE. 38:24 AND I LOVE THAT BIBLE. I GOT A BIG HARD COVER ONE THAT 38:29 WEIGHS A TON. >> I KNOW WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF 38:34 TIME, SO WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE HERE? 38:39 OH JACK WAS A PROFESSOR AT SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY, AND HE 38:44 WOULD TRY TO REWRITE THE BIBLE FOR HIS GRANDCHILDREN. 38:51 THOSE BECAME THE CLEAR-WORD BIBLE. 38:58 BUT HE CLARIFIED THAT, IT'S CL 39:11 CL CLEAR-WORD. 39:12 THEY INVITED LONNIE TO DO THE AUDIO VERSION OF THE ENTIRE 39:16 BIBLE. >> AMEN. 39:18 >> BECAUSE OF MY RADIO VOICE, I HAD TO DO IT ON MY OWN TIME WITH 39:23 MY OWN -- PUSHING THE BUTTONS ON THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS AND 39:28 NEW YEAS, AND I DID THAT FOR FOUR YEARS. 39:32 IF YOU DON'T LIKE TO READ, YOU CAN DRIVE AND LISTEN TO THE 39:37 BIBLE, THE CLEAR WORD. SO THAT'S ANOTHER TOOL. 39:41 >> OKAY. NEW DAY. 39:46 >> YES, AND SOME OTHER LESSONS. DO YOU HAVE ANY FRIENDS OR LOVED 39:51 ONES WHO ARE NATIVE AMERICANS, CHEROKEE OR -- NATIVE AMERICANS, 39:56 WE HAVE DISCOVERED IN THEIR HISTORY -- I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT 40:00 THE SABBATH, ONE OF MY DEAR FRIENDS I WENT TO INTERVIEW IS 40:05 IN A TRIBE IN WASHINGTON, THE NORTH PACIFIC AREA OF THE 40:10 UNITED STATES, IN PARTICULAR, WE HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THE SABBATH 40:14 IS EMBEDDED IN THEIR CULTURE. SO WE HAD THE TRIBES PUT 40:18 TOGETHER A SERIES OF BIBLE STUDIES. 40:22 WRITTEN BY THEM WITH THEIR OWN CULTURE AND STORIES AND NATIVE 40:27 AMERICAN ART. CALLED NATIVE NEW DAY. 40:30 WE HAVE NOW BAPTIZED 15 CHIEFS. A CHIEF'S WORD IS MORE IMPORTANT 40:36 THAN THE CONSTITUTION AND THE MAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE. 40:39 WHAT THE CHIEF SAYS IS LAW. WE HAVE HAD MINISTERS OF MANY 40:44 DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS COME IN AND SAY THIS IS OUR CULTURE, 40:48 THIS IS WHO WE ARE. HERE IS OUR CHURCH, TAKE IT 40:51 OVER. >> WOW. 40:52 >> AND THEN WE HAVE GOT SOMETHING ELSE FROM THE VOICE OF 40:59 PROPHECY CALLED KID'S ZONE. AND IT'S PUZZLES AND GAMES AND 41:05 STORIES AND LESSONS. VOICE OF PROPHECY HAS THINGS FOR 41:12 BRAILLE, FOR ENGLISH, AND YOU HAVE LESSONS, DOUG BACHELOR HAS 41:17 LESSONS, IT IS WRITTEN HAS LESSONS. 41:21 >> UH-HUH. >> IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY IN YOUR 41:23 AREA WHO HAPPENS TO BE A NATIVE AMERICAN, IF THEY READ THIS, 41:28 THEY WILL BE TOTALLY CONVINCED. >> UH-HUH. 41:31 IS MONTY CHURCH -- HE USED TO HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED NATIVE NEW 41:35 DAY. IS HE INVOLVED OR JUST THE SAME 41:38 NAME? >> HE WAS THE ONE THAT 41:42 DISCOVERED THE HIEROGLYPHICS. AND THEY ARE READY TO RELEASE 41:45 THIS INFORMATION. ANOTHER GRAPHIC JUST CAME UP. 41:49 WHAT WAS THAT ONE? [ LAUGHTER ] 41:55 >> THIS IS A CHURCH OF CHRIST PERSON WHO BECAME CONVINCED AS 42:01 LAURA MISUNDERSTOOD THAT HER BROTHER WAS NOT TALKING TO HER. 42:05 THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANYTHING. HE STUDIED VERY, VERY CAREFULLY, 42:11 AND JOHN 3:16 WAS EVERYTHING. IT DOESN'T MEAN THERE IS 42:19 EVER-LASTING PUNISHMENT. >> UH-HUH. 42:23 >> HE WAS DEFROCKED AND THROWN OUT OF HIS CHURCH FOR HIS 42:27 CONVICTIONS ON THAT SUBJECT. HE CAME AN ATTORNEY. 42:33 NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHT THE FUTURE ISSUES ARE, BUT THIS IS A 42:40 FANTASTIC MINISTERING TOOL. >> WE JUMPED OVER THE 31 BIBLE 42:46 STUDY GUIDES -- >> I HAVE A LITTLE BOOKLET 42:51 CALLED WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT -- YOU CAN CHAIN REFERENCE 42:57 YOUR BIBLE -- LAURA HAS DONE THAT WITH HER BIBLE, AND SHE 43:04 FINES IT TO BE A POWERFUL TOOL. MARK FINLEY RENAMED HIS THE SAME 43:10 THING. SO DON'T GET CONFUSED. 43:12 >> THE FAMILY REUNION CONCERTS. I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO BE AT 43:18 SOME OF THOSE. GREAT STUFF. 43:20 >> I HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED ALL OVER THE PLANET. 43:23 KURT JOHNSON AND I WENT TO THE SERINGETTI, BECAUSE WE WANTED TO 43:29 SEE LIONS. AND WE FINALLY HIRED A GUY. 43:37 A JEEP PULLS UP WITH TWO WHITE PEOPLE AND AN AFRICAN GUIDE, AND 43:41 THE AFRICAN GUIDE SAYS YOU ARE LONNIE MELASHENKO. 43:47 [ LAUGHTER ] >> I SAID WHO IN THIS PLANET ARE 43:52 YOU? YOU ARE LONNIE MELASHENKO. 43:54 I RECOGNIZE YOU FROM THE MUSICAL VIDEOS. 43:58 WE SIGNED UP FOR THOSE TWO PEOPLE FROM NEW YORK. 44:03 HE WAS SO EXCITED. GOD HAS USED THOSE VIDEOS 44:13 POWERFULLY. >> HOW MANY DID YOU DO? 44:15 >> AT LEAST 15 OR 16. >> I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS THAT 44:20 MANY. BUT GOOD STUFF, GREAT MUSIC, 44:25 WONDERFUL PEOPLE. WARREN JUDD AND HIS KIDS. 44:29 >> YEAH. >> WONDERFUL STUFF. 44:32 FAMILY REUNION. CHURCH WOMB -- 44:38 >> THERE WAS A VIDEO WE DID FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN HURT IN 44:45 CHURCH. SOMEBODY SAID SOMETHING UNKIND. 44:47 WHAT CAN YOU DO? THIS IS A VIDEO DESIGNED TO HELP 44:52 A PERSON WHO HAS STOPPED COMING, AND TO ENCOURAGE THEM AND -- THE 44:57 BEST POTENTIAL WE HAVE FOR MEMBERSHIP IS FORMER MEMBERS. 45:05 WE HAVE COVERED THE LIST. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT 45:09 IT HAS BEEN MY JOY AS A REVIVALIST TO SHARE THESE TOOLS 45:13 WITH LAYMEN. AND IF YOU DIDN'T GET THEM ALL, 45:17 GET IN TOUCH WITH THEE FOLKS HERE AT 3ABN, AND LET THEM KNOW 45:20 THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT THOSE TOOLS WERE. 45:24 >> UH-HUH. NOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING 45:27 THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN RELATE TO. 45:29 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND I'M LOOKING AT THIS. 45:33 YOU HAVE SORT OF COVERED THE GAMBIT, MOVIE WATCHERS, 45:41 LISTENERS, PEOPLE WHO WANT THE BIBLE SIMPLER, PEOPLE WHO WANT 45:45 SOMETHING INNOVATIVE. PEOPLE WHO WANT SOMETHING EASY 45:49 AND NON-EVASIVE, LIE JUST WALK ACROSS THE ROOM. 45:53 SO IN LOOKS AT ALL OF THESE TOOLS, THERE IS SOMETHING 45:57 LITERALLY FOR EVERYONE. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 46:00 YEAH. YEAH. 46:01 >> REALLY GREAT STUFF. >> AND QUALIFY. 46:05 IT' IT'S NOT SECOND HAND. 46:11 THIS IS JUST HELPING PEOPLE REALIZE THE BIBLE NEEDS TO BE 46:16 STUDIED HERE A LITTLE AND THERE A LITTLE, AND WE CAN COME UP 46:21 WITH WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES ON A SUBJECT, WHICH WE MAY DISAGREE 46:27 WITH BASED ON OUR BACKGROUND, AND PEOPLE CAN COME TO KNOW THE 46:31 ANSWER THEMELVES. YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE BIBLE, AND 46:34 CHASE DOWN THOSE TEXTS -- >> YEAH. 46:37 >> -- AND MAKE YOUR WAY. >> WHO WOULD THINK THAT A 46:42 UNITED STATES SENATOR WOULD BE GIVING US A STUDY AND IN-DEPTH 46:48 TREATISE ON THE SABBATH. >> YES. 46:50 >> THE GIFT OF REST, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T 46:53 PRODUCE, BUT THAT THE HAND OF GOD IS ON, AND TO BE USED IN A 46:57 VERY MARKED AND POWERFUL WAY. >> THOSE USED TO BE ON SALE I 47:02 THINK EVEN IN COSTCO, BUT IT HAS BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS, SO YOU 47:06 HAVE TO GO ONLINE -- >> YEAH, AND HUNT IT DOWN. 47:10 JUST A SCRAP OF PEOPLE. IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN GET 47:14 CURRENTLY. >> GET THAT THROUGH PACIFIC 47:15 PRESS OR VOICE OF PROPHECY. HOW DID KENNETH COX BECOME A 47:24 BORN-AGAIN BELIEVER. POWERFUL, GRIPPING STORIES, 47:28 MOVING -- AND THE SCRAP OF PAPER IS USUALLY A BIBLE ENROLLMENT 47:33 CARD THAT WAS LEFT SOMEWHERE IN A WASHING MACHINE OR TACKED TO A 47:53 B BU 47:55 BULLETTINE BOARD. IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS. 47:56 THE TAXICAB DRIVER THAT TOOK CARE OF THAT LADY, AND SAYING 48:00 HOW YOU MADE THEM FEEL, AND PICKING UP THAT PIECE OF PAPER 48:04 IN TACO BELL. [ LAUGHTER ] 48:06 >> THAT'S POWERFUL. THIS ONE WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT 48:09 TOO MUCH, LONNIE. THE IDEA THAT YOU -- I REMEMBER 48:13 THIS CAME OUT YEARS AGO, AND SORT OF MADE A BIG SPLASH AND 48:17 THEN WENT AWAY. THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN HAVE 48:22 60-SECOND SHOTS THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO YOUR LOCAL RADIO STATION 48:26 AND HAVE THEM PLAYED THERE. >> WE TESTED DIFFERENT SPOTS, 48:34 BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T DARKEN THE DOOR OF A CHURCH, 48:37 WHEN THEY ARE DRIVING TO WORK EARLY IN THE MORNING, YOU PUT A 48:42 60-SECOND SPOT PROFESSIONALLY MADE ON PRAYER, OR ON A SECULAR 48:46 SITUATION, THEY DON'T LIKE RELIGIOUS STUFF, YOU HAVE TO USE 48:53 HUMOR, SO WE USE HOMER SIMPSON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 48:56 THOSE ARE CALLED IMAGE-AWARENESS SPOTS. 49:00 PEOPLE WERE CALLING IN, SAYING OUR LISTENERS LOVE THOSE, SEND -MORE. 49:05 AND YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY AS THEY GO ON THE INTERNET, STUFF CAN GO 49:09 VIRAL INSTANTLY, IF WE CAN JUST ENCOURAGE OUR PEOPLE TO DO 49:14 THINGS UNIQUE TO GET THE WORD OUT. 49:16 >> I LIKE THE IDEA. SO YOU ARE NOT OVERLY PREACHY, 49:23 BUT IT EASES THEM INTO IT. >> WE HAD WFRB IN MARYLAND, THE 49:30 STATION MANAGER CALLED ME UP AND SAID I'M NOT A MEMBER OF YOUR 49:34 FAITH, BUT I HAVE JUST BEEN BORN AGAIN, SO I NED TO CONFESS 49:40 SOMETHING, WE HAVE BEEN P-- PAY RATING THOSE SPOTS, ALL 49:49 THROUGHOUT THE RUSH LIMBAUGH HOUR. 49:51 >> OH, MY LORD. >> AND THE LISTENERS LOVED IT. 49:55 AND THE STATION MANAGER SAID SEND US MORE OF THESE. 49:58 WELL, IT COSTS US A FORTUNE TO MAKE THOS PROFESSIONALLY, BUT I 50:04 PLAY THOSE OFTEN WHEN I GIVE A SPEECH. 50:07 KIDS TODAY THEY CAN CREATE ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 50:10 >> REALLY, REALLY GOOD. IF YOUR CHURCH HAS AN EVANGELISM 50:14 BUDGET, MAYBE THE CHURCH CAN SPONSOR THESE. 50:18 IT MAY BE A LITTLE STEEP FOR A PERSON TO DO, BUT IT'S AN 50:23 ONGOING MINISTRY. IT'S COMING, IT'S RUNNING, IT'S 50:27 RUNNING, SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY. 50:31 I WANT TO GO BACK TO MARTIN'S WORK, BECAUSE IT IS SO POWERFUL 50:37 AND CURRENT AND WELL DONE. THIS HAS BEEN ON PBS, HAS IT 50:43 NOT? >> HE HAS PUT IT ON SEVERAL 50:45 TIMES. YOU COULDN'T BUY THEM FOR A 50:48 WHILE, BECAUSE HE RAN OUT OF THEM. 50:50 BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY GET IT THROUGH THE LOCAL ADVENTIST 50:56 BOOKSTORE, BUT GO ONLINE AND YOU'LL FINE THAT, AND OTHERS 51:00 TOO. IT LISTS SOME OF THE OTHER 51:03 MOVIES HE DID. BUT THE ADVENTIST IS THE ONE I'M 51:07 REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. THIS FIRST ONE, AND THEN THERE 51:11 IS ADVENTIST TWO. >> I THINK WE SAW IT HERE, AND 51:15 THEN WE BOUGHT IT. BUT THAT'S A GOOD TOOL, AND A 51:18 TOOL YOU CAN SHARE WITH YOUR -- I USE THE TERM HIGH-END 51:23 FRIENDS. PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE DRAWN TO 51:25 SOME OTHER KIND OF TOOL, THAT WILL DO IT. 51:29 IT IS A PROFESSIONAL DOCUMENTARY, VERY INFORMATIVE 51:33 AND YET SPIRITUAL AND VERY WELL DONE. 51:35 >> UH-HUH. >> I JUST GOING DOWN THE LIST, 51:39 BECAUSE YOU HAVE 14 DIFFERENT THINGS HERE -- 51:41 >> AND I PROMOTE THESE AT CAMP MEETINGS. 51:44 IT'S SO SIMPLE NOW. I NEVER HAD THESE TOOLS WHEN I 51:48 WENT THROUGH THE PASTORAL -MINISTRY. I HAVE BEEN IN THE 51:52 MINISTRY -- WELL, CLOSE TO 50 YEARS PRETTY SOON. 51:55 THESE ARE BEING PRODUCED BY CATHOLICS, JEWS, CHURCH OF 52:03 CHRIST -- AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE PHONE BOOK, YOU WILL DISCOVER 52:09 THERE'S 7TH DAY METHODISTS, MANY CHURCHES HAVE SEVENTH DAY 52:18 SERVICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> YES. 52:21 >> PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO REALIZE THAT THEIR BIASES FROM 52:25 THE PAST MAY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT. 52:28 >> YES. >> THERE MAY BE SOME THINGS THAT 52:30 WE HAVE COMPROMISED ON. >> YES. 52:33 >> THAT MAKES ME SO HAPPY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HERE, AND YOU HAVE 52:40 GONE WORLD WIDE, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT LIFTING UP JESUS. 52:44 >> VERY MUCH SO. >> AND THE DAY WE SAY I BELIEVE 52:48 THIS OR THIS IS RIGHT OR NOT RIGHT, IT HAS TO BE JESUS 52:53 ORIENTED. >> YES. 52:54 >> HOW DOES THIS ENHANCE MY RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS. 52:58 >> YES. AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT IN OUR 53:00 CORPORATE MEETINGS, IF WE EVER SPRAY FROM THE PURE WORD AS WE 53:05 KNOW IT TO BE, THEN WE THINK GOD WILL TAKE AWAY THE MANDATE, WE 53:13 NEED TO GIVE THE WORD OF GOD, AS LONG AS WE STAY WITH THAT, THEN 53:17 WE ARE A VALUE TO THE KINGDOM OF GOD. 53:20 THE IDEA OF -- WHAT IS THE TITLE -- LOVE AT WORK. 53:24 WHERE DOES THAT TITLE COME FROM? >> I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE, BECAUSE 53:29 THE PALMERS, THEY CAME UP WITH THAT. 53:32 BUT I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A MNEMONIC, L-A-W. 53:39 LOVE AT WORK. LAW OF GOD, THE TEN 53:43 COMMANDMENTS, SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS IT. 53:45 THEY HAE A NEW TITLE FOR THIS FOLLOW-UP SERIES THAT TIES 53:49 TOGETHER WITH THIS ONE. I'M NOT SURE I HAVE THAT 53:52 PARTICULAR LITTLE CLIP RIGHT HERE -- I DON'T HAVE MY 53:56 GLOSSES -- >> TRY MINE. 53:58 >> READY. >> GOT IT? 54:00 >> THOSE 100 NEW SONGS THAT ARE COMING OUT, THE WAY TO GET THOSE 54:07 IS TO GO ONLINE, BUT IF YOU GO TO LOVE AT WORK, YOU WILL FIND 54:13 THE TEN COMMANDMENT MUSICAL, AND AGAIN, THAT IS NOT YOUR AVERAGE 54:19 GOSPEL MUSIC, BUT I DIDN'T LISTEN THROUGH THE FIFTH 54:22 COMMANDMENT WITHOUT BREAKING DOWN IN TEARS. 54:25 IT'S SO POWERFUL. AND SOME OF THESE ARE VERY 54:30 COMPLICATED MUSICAL ORER TOALS. I'M SO PROUD OF THEM. 54:35 IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL THING. >> I NOTICE AS YOU GET OLDER, 54:39 YOU BECOME MORE SENSITIVE TO THINGS, AND YOU USE TERMS LIKE I 54:43 WEPT, OR IT BRINGS ME TO TEARS, A LOT MORE THAN WHEN YOU WERE 54:48 YOUNGER, AND YOU REALIZE, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU GET 54:52 HISTORY WITH JESUS AND SEE WHAT HE IS DOING, IT DOES TURN INTO 54:58 TEARS. YOU HAVE TURNED INTO QUITE A CRY 55:03 BABY. >> MY WIFE GETS UPSET WITH ME 55:06 FROM TIME TO TIME. BUT WHEN YOU BROUGHT LAURA IN 55:09 HERE, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I COULD SPEAK. 55:12 THE LORD HIMSELF HAD EMOTIONS. GOD, WILL HAVE WRATH IN THE 55:18 FINAL DAY. WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF 55:20 THAT. WE WANT TO BE ON THE SIDE OF HIS 55:24 JUSTICE AND MERCY AND LOVE, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER SIDE. 55:29 AND PEOPLE THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF GOD I'M NOT INTERESTED IN. 55:33 HE IS VINDICTIVE. THAT'S NOT THE POINT. 55:36 GOD IS GOING TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT SOME DAY, AND HE IS GOING 55:40 TO BRING JUSTICE TO THOSE PEOPLE IN THE HEADLINES THEIR LOVED 55:45 ONES WERE LOST IN A TERRIBLE WAY, OR ABUSED SOMEONE, ONE OF 55:50 THESE DAYS GOD IS GOING TO TAKE THESE BROKEN PIECES OF THE 55:54 PUZZLE, AND PUT THEM BACK INTO A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE. 55:57 >> PRAISE THE LORD. >> BUT JESUS PAID THE PRICE AND 56:01 THE PENALTY OF SIN. THE SCARS MIGHT MEAN THAT SOME 56:05 INDIVIDUALS WHO NEVER REPENTED WILL HAVE TO PAY THE PRICE 56:09 FACING THE OTHER SIDE OF GOD'S CHARACTER OF LOVE, WHICH IS 56:14 JUSTICE. >> WHICH IS JUSTICE. 56:18 >> BEFORE OUR TIME SLIPS AWAY, SHOULD YOU WANT TO CONTACT 56:23 PASTOR LONNIE MELASHENKO, IT'S LONNIEMELASHANKO.COM. 56:26 ONE WORD LONNIEMELASHANKO.COM. THERE IT IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 56:30 SCREEN. AND HE IS A REVIVALIST. 56:34 HE IS LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT. >> I GO WHERE I'M INVITED. 56:40 >> INDEED. BUT HE HAS A LOT OF TOOLS, AND 56:43 IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A WAY TO ENTER INTO YOUR COMMUNITY, GIVE 56:53 ME A CALL AND HE CAN HELP YOU DO THAT. 56:56 >> AND ON THAT WEBSITE, YOU CAN FIND OUT WHERE I'M SPEAKING, 57:01 INCLUDING BOSTON, TENNESSEE, GEORGIA, AND BACK AT THE ARIZONA 57:07 CAMP MEETING AND SO FORTH. >> OUR TIME HAS SLIPPED AWAY. 57:15 BYE-BYE, GOOD NIGHT, AND GOD BLESS. 57:16 ♪ |
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