Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Laura Sommerfield, Lonnie Melashenko
Series Code: TL
Program Code: TL017516A
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00:03 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:09 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ 00:20 ♪ REMOVING PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪ 00:29 ♪ LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪ 00:36 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 00:46 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 01:07 >> HELLO, AND WELCOME TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE." 01:11 MY NAME IS CA MURRAY ALLOW ME ONCE AGAIN TO THANK YOU, FOR 01:16 SHARING A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR NO DOUBT, BUSY DAY WITH US. 01:22 AS WE SAY ALWAYS WE COULD NOT DO WHAT WE ARE CALLED TO DO WITHOUT 01:26 YOUR PARTNERSHIP, YOUR LOVE GIFTS AND PRAYERS AND SUPPORT. 01:33 SO WHEN WE SAY THANK YOU, IT COMES OFF OF THE TONGUE EASILY, 01:37 BUT IT COMES ALL THE WAY FROM THE HEART. 01:41 BECAUSE WE LEAVE AND KNOW WE HAVE BEEN CALLED TO WORK 01:45 TOGETHER. I AM EXCITED TONIGHT BECAUSE OF 01:47 OUR SUBJECT MATTER AND BECAUSE OF MY -- MY GUEST. 01:50 FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT EVANGELISM AND THE 01:58 EVANGELISTIC TOOLS THAT WILL MAKE YOUR WITNESS A PROFITABLE 02:01 AND PAINLESS EXERCISE, BUT MY GUEST IS ONE WHOSE VOICE PERHAPS 02:07 YOU HAVE HEARD OVER THE YEARS, THE SMOOTH BARITONE TONE OF 02:15 PASTOR LONNIE MELASHENKO. WELCOME. 02:18 >> THANK YOU. >> NOTE I DIDN'T CALL YOU OLD 02:22 FRIEND. LONG FRIEND, OF LONG-STANDING, 02:24 AND WE'RE STILL YOUNG. WE ARE. 02:27 >> WE ARE. PASTOR RICHARDS, THE DEAN OF 02:32 RADIO BROADCASTING WAY BACK IN 1927. 02:34 HE WAS ALWAYS ASKED ABOUT THE WORD RETIREMENT. 02:38 AND HE WOULD SAY, BROTHER CA, THE WORD RETIREMENT IS NOT IN 02:43 THE BIBLE. JESUS SAYS YOU MUST OCCUPY UNTIL 02:49 I COME. SO THAT'S MY NEW MANTRA. 02:52 >> AMEN, PRAISE THE LORD. PRAISE THE LORD. 02:56 THERE COMES WIT AGE A CERTAIN WISDOM AND PERSPECTIVE ON LIFE 02:59 THAT YOU SIMPLY DON'T HAVE WHEN YOU ARE YOUNGER. 03:02 AND WHEN YOU GET UP TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE MORE TO SAY, YOU HAVE 03:06 MORE TO DRAW FROM, AND YOU TEND TO SEE EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF 03:11 STORIES. >> AND EVERYTHING REMINDS YOU OF 03:13 SOMETHING ELSE. >> VERY, VERY TRUE. 03:15 AND YOU SERVED THE LORD FOR A VERY LONG PERIOD OF TIME, 03:19 LONNIE. WE'LL START OFF WITH THE PUNCH 03:22 LINE WHICH YOU ARE TECHNICALLY RETIRED, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, 03:27 YOU ARE BUSIER NOW THAN YOU WERE WHEN YOU WERE WORKING. 03:31 >> THAT'S RIGHT. AND I'M ENJOYING IT IMMENSELY. 03:35 A YEAR AGO, THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I REACHED FROM POLE TO 03:43 POLE. I WAS A THOUSAND MILES FROM THE 03:47 SOUTH POLE. AND JEANIE AND I WERE INVITED TO 03:52 GO A THOUSAND MILES FROM THE NORTH POLE. 03:55 AND IT WAS SO COLD UP THERE. BUT IT IS SO EXCITING, AND I'M 04:02 HONORED TO BE HERE. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 04:05 AND WE ARE HON IN ORDER HAVE YOU. 04:08 HEY, I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. 04:11 I WAS PREACHING LAST OCTOBER, IN THE PHILIPPINES, AND THEY TOLD 04:16 ME WE HAVEN'T HAD AN EVANGELIST HERE SINCE THE DAYS OF LONNIE 04:24 MELASHENKO -- THE LAST GUY WE HAD HERE WAS LONNIE MELASHENKO. 04:29 20 YEARS AGO THEY SAID THEY HADN'T HAD ANY ACTIVE 04:36 EVANGELISM. >> WE HAD SOMETHING IN 1956, 04:38 ACROSS THE PHILIPPINES. WE TOOK OVER 300 TEAMS. 04:46 SENT THEIR JIM NIX OVER THERE. THEY ALL SENT TEAMS AND THAT WAS 04:51 CALLED TARGET 50,000. WE CIRCUMNAVIGATED ALL OF THE 05:03 PHILIPPINES, AND BAPTIZED OVER 50,000, AND TN YEARS LATER THEY 05:09 WANTED TARGET 60,000. AND AGAIN, ALL KINDS OF TEAMS 05:13 CAME IN. I CANNOT TELL YOU. 05:23 NO ONE CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT KIND OF THING. 05:24 IT'S A GOD THING. >> VERY TRUE. 05:25 >> AND OVER 60,000 WERE BAPTIZED. 05:32 WE ATE SO MANY MANGOS. THIS EMANATED OUT OF SABU. 05:33 HAVE YOU BEEN TO SABU? >> OH, YEAH. 05:37 >> WELL, THEY HAVE THE WORLD'S BEST MANGOS. 05:45 >> MY LIFE MAY GIVE YOU A LITTLE PUSHBACK ON THAT BEING FROM 05:52 PANAMA. THE MANGOS IN THE PHILIPPINES 05:54 ARE WONDERFUL. >> AND THEY WITH WONDERFUL 05:57 PEOPLE. THOSE FILIPINOS. 05:59 WHENEVER I GREET THEM I SAY [ SPEAKING PHILIPPINE ] 06:06 AND THEIR EYES LIGHT UP. >> WHERE WERE YOU? 06:10 >> WE WERE IN VICTORIOUS. WE DID TWO MEETINGS. 06:17 >> MY DAD HAS BEEN THERE SEVERAL TIMES. 06:19 >> YES. YES. 06:21 PRAISE THE LORD. LET'S GET A LITTLE HISTORY ON 06:25 YOU, MAN. YOU COME FROM A LARGE SINGING 06:28 FAMILY, A BUNCH OF MALES. YOU WERE BORN IN CANADA, BUT 06:35 YOUR FAMILY HERITAGE IS RUSSIAN? >> UKRAINE. 06:38 WE DO HAVE SOME MIX OF SOME RELATIVES THAT CAME FROM RUSSIA, 06:44 BUT THEY ALL ESCAPES THE REVOLUTION AND MIGRATED TO 07:01 CANADA. SOME ON CATTLE SHIPS. 07:02 THEY WERE LIKE SLAVES. I HAD AN AUNT THAT BIRTHED TWO 07:03 CHILDREN DOWN IN THE CATTLE WARD, BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T 07:04 AFFORD PASSAGE, NE TWINS WERE LOST, SO SHE HAD MORE TWINS AND NAMED THE 07:06 SAME NAME AS THE FIRST KIDS, BUT THEY IMMIGRATED TO SASKATCHEWAN. 07:14 AND MY DAD MILKED 14, 15, 16 COWS AS A LITTLE KID GROWING UP. 07:22 BUT THE KING'S HERALDS WERE LOOKING FOR A BASE TO REPLACE 07:29 RAY TURNER. DAD TRIED OUT. 07:33 COME SING WITH THE KINGS HERALD QUARTET. 07:38 SO THAT'S HOW OUR FAMILY GOT INTO MUSIC. 07:44 DAD SANG WITH THE QUARTET FOR SEVERAL YEARS UNTIL -- HE HAD 07:48 THROAT CANCER. BOB EDWARDS, JERRY -- I CAN'T 07:57 REMEMBER. THEY WERE IN A TIME OF HEMISPHERE. 08:33 AND THEY BECAME SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, AND THERE WERE SOME 08:42 RUSSIAN ORTHODOX THERE. >> AT WHAT AGE WHEN THEY BECAME 08:47 ADVENTISTS? >> I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY. 08:49 BUT THEY WERE PROBABLY IN THEIR TEENS. 08:52 >> OKAY. OKAY. 08:53 NOW -- >> BIG FAMILIES. 08:55 8 AND 11, SO I CAN'T EVEN KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF MY RELATIVES. 09:01 >> YEAH. THE -- I WAS IN HAWAII SOME 09:04 YEARS AGO, AND I WENT TO THE HONOLULU CHURCH, AND MET FOR THE 09:11 FIRST TIME JODY. >> JODY. 09:12 >> YEAH. NOW WHO ARE THE BOYS? 09:14 >> JOE AND ANN MY PARENTS HAD FIVE SONS, AND I'M THE ELDEST OF 09:21 THE FIVE SONS OF THE TRIBE OF JOSEPH. 09:24 BUT DAD WAS A FARMER AND TAUGHT SCHOOL PART-TIME. 09:28 IN SASKATCHEWAN, THE MIDDLE OF WINTER, THY HAD TO CUDDLE AND 09:33 STAY CLOSE, SO THEY HAD LOTS OF KIDS. 09:37 >> INDEED. >> I WAS THE OLDEST OF FIVE 09:45 BROTHERS. I WAS FOUR, JODY WAS THREE, 09:46 DALLAS WAS TWO, EUGENE WAS ONE, AND RUDY WAS BORN BEFORE I 09:50 TURNED FIVE. >> THEY SQUEEZED THEM IN THERE. 09:52 >> YEAH. AND MY FOLKS TAUGHT US HOW TO 09:57 SING SINCE BEFORE WE COULD WALK. >> YOU ARE PASTORING, JODY IS 10:01 PASTORING. HOW ABOUT THE OTHER THREE? 10:05 >> DALLAS IS A TEACHER. EUGENE WAS A PASTOR TEACHER. 10:14 >> UH-HUH. >> AND RUDY, THE LAST ONE IS THE 10:16 TEACHER OF THE TEACHERS. HE WAS THE BEST. 10:21 >> PRAISE THE LORD. PRAISE THE LORD. 10:23 DID IT ALWAYS OCCUR TO YOU THAT MINISTRY WAS SOMETHING YOU 10:29 WANTED TO DO? >> THAT'S AN INTERESTING 10:30 QUESTION, BECAUSE GROWING UP AND SEEING MY DAD WORKING WITH SOME 10:32 OF THE GREATS, WALTER SCHUBERT, AND ELMAN FAULKENBERG, THEY WERE 10:43 BIG NAMES. AND SEVERAL OF THE BIG BLACK 10:46 NAMES CAME TO BERMUDA WHEN I WAS THERE. 10:48 I LOVED TO LISTEN TO THE SERMONS PRESENTED AND THOUGHT THAT'S 10:52 WHAT I WANT TO BE WHEN I GROW UP. 10:54 WHEN I WAS -- AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING TO A 10:59 CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. I WENT TO PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOL IN 11:03 BERMUDA. AND THEN I WENT TO ONE OF OUR 11:06 CHRISTIAN ACADEMIES, AND THREE ROWS BEHIND ME, SITTING IN THE 11:12 LITTLE CLASSROOM WHEN I WAS A SENIOR, ONE DAY WHEN THE TEACHER 11:16 STEPPED OUT IN THE HOL -- HALLWAY, I HEARD SAY, 11:25 LONNIE, AND IT WAS JEANIE, AND SHE WINKED AT ME, AND I WINKED 11:31 BACK. BUT WE WERE READING SPIRITUAL 11:34 BOOKS, AND ONE DAY SHE KNEW THAT I WAS TROUBLED WHETHER I SHOULD 11:38 GO TO THEOLOGY COLLEGE OR MAYBE TAKE DENTISTRY. 11:42 WE HAD A FRIEND AND MANY OF THE FOLKS IN THE EAST WILL KNOW THE 11:55 NAME OF DEMAZO. >> YEAH. 11:56 >> HE HAD ME COME IN ONE DAY TO HIS DENTAL OFFICE, COUPLE OF 11:58 DAYS. AND HE SAID I WANT YOU TO 11:59 OBSERVE AND BE A DENTAL ASSISTANT HERE. 12:03 HE SAID I'M WILLING TO PAY YOUR WAY THROUGH DENTAL SCHOOL, YOU 12:09 NEED TO BE A DENTIST. A MEDICAL MISSIONARY. 12:13 SO I DID. I DIDN'T REALIZE HOW I WOULD 12:16 REACT TO THE SITE OF BLOOD. >> AH-HA. 12:22 >> WHEN HE WOULD BE EXTRACTING A TOOTH, I WOULD BE IN A HEAP 12:28 PASSED OUT. [ LAUGHTER ] 12:28 >> THAT'S NOT GOOD. >> TWO DAYS OF THIS WENT ON, AND 12:30 I DECIDED -- AND JEANIE WAS READING MESSAGES TO YOUNG 12:35 PEOPLE, THESE WORDS -- AND WE WERE JUST FRIENDS AT THAT POINT. 12:38 AND THE WORDS WERE MANY OF OUR YOUNG MEN ARE CONSIDERING 12:42 MEDICAL FIELDS, AND THEY SHOULD BE IN THE MINISTRY. 12:45 >> OH, WOW. >> THAT WAS A TURNING POINT IN 12:48 MY LIFE. I GET CHOKED UP. 12:51 WELL, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THAT GIRL WHO WINKED AT ME. 12:55 I WROTE HER LETTERS FOR A COUPLE, THREE YEARS, BECAUSE I 13:00 WENT TO SCHOOL IN RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA, AND SHE WAS IN D.C., 13:05 BUT WE EVENTUALLY GOT MARRIED. BUT I HAD TO MAKE A MAJOR VOICE 13:09 AND SAID LORD WHERE DO YOU WANT ME TO GO. 13:13 >> UH-HUH. LET ME ASK YOU THIS. 13:21 COMING FROM A COMMITTED FAMILY, EVERYBODY IN THE CHURCH DOES NOT 13:23 NECESSARILY MEAN THAT YOU WILL BE. 13:24 DID YOU HAVE WILDERNESS YEARS IN YOUR TEEN YEARS GROWING UP? 13:25 OR DID YOU STAY ON THE LORD'S SIDE EVERY TIME. 13:29 >> WELL, I THANKED THE LORD, I DIDN'T ALWAYS KNOW THE ASSURANCE 13:36 OF JESUS. GOING TO THE SABBATH SCHOOL 13:43 CLASSES IN KINDERGARTEN AND SO FORTH, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE 13:49 ASSURANCE OF SALVATION. THESE THINGS I HAVE WRITTEN ON 13:53 TO YOU THAT YOU MAY KNOW THERE WILL BE ETERNAL LIFE. 13:57 I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL I GOT TO COLLEGE. 13:59 SO MY FOLKS AND I LEARNED AS A CHILD, THE NEW TESTAMENT SAYS 14:04 THERE IS GOING TO BE LIGHTEN, THUNDER, BIG THUNDER STORMS ROLL 14:11 ACROSS THE PRAIRIES, AND I CAN REMEMBER TO THIS DAY, I WOULD 14:16 WAKE UP AND HEAR THE THUNDER AND LIGHTNING, AND JUST BE 14:21 TERRIFIED. I WAS AFRAID BECAUSE I KNEW IF 14:23 JESUS WAS COMING, I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WOULD GET TO GO TO HEAVEN. 14:27 AND I WAS TERRIFIED. I DDN'T KNOW. 14:29 IT WASN'T UNTIL I FINALLY GOT THROUGH TO THE SEMINARY, I 14:35 LEARNED THROUGH AN EVANGELIST, ABOUT THE GOSPEL PRESENTATION. 14:40 THE SIMPLICITY OF THE FACT THAT YOU CAN KNOW. 14:44 HE WHO HAS THE SON HAS LIFE. HE WHO HAS NOT THE SON HAS NO 14:50 LIFE. AND THAT BRINGS ME ENCOURAGEMENT 14:53 BECAUSE I HAVE GONE THROUGH A LITANY OF SPIRITUAL AND MEDICAL 14:57 CHALLENGES THAT I DON'T WANT TO GIVE MY WHOLE MEDICAL HISTORY 15:01 HERE, BUT I HAVE HAD CANCER TWICE, BIG TIME, MELANOMA, 15:08 PROSTATE CANCER NOT SO LONG AGO. AND I'M DAMAGED GOODS, BUT GOD 15:13 ISN'T FINISHED WITH ME YET. >> AMEN. 15:16 AMEN. >> I'M GLAD -- I WAS SO SHY AS A 15:20 CHILD, EVEN THOUGH I WAS THE FIRSTBORN, I HAD TO HELP KEEP MY 15:27 BROTHERS IN LINE. MOM WAS AT A WASHING MACHINE IN 15:33 THE PRAIRIE, NO RUNNING WATER, AND SHE WOULD HANG UP A THOSE 15:38 OLD-FASHIONED DIAPERS ON THE LINE AND THEY WOULD FREEZE AS 15:41 SOLID AS BRICKS. SHE WOULD HAVE ME HOLD UP MY 15:46 ARMS AND STACK THESE BRICKS ON MY ARMS. 15:49 THEY WEIGHED NOTHING, BUT THEY WERE FROZEN SOLID. 15:53 SO I MUST CONFESS I TRIED TO BE A GOOD BOY, BUT I WENT THROUGH 15:57 SOME PRIVATE THINGS THAT I'M VERY ASHAMED OF, BUT GOD IS A 16:02 GOOD GOD, THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF ME. 16:07 >> THERE ARE SOME WHO ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH NEVER TO LEAVE 16:10 THE LORD. I BROKE MY ANKLE TWICE PLAYING 16:14 BASKETBALL ON SCHOLARSHIP FRIDAY NIGHT TWO YEARS IN A ROW, SAME 16:21 NIGHT, SAME ANKLE. SO BECAUSE YOU DON'T ALWAYS PLAY 16:26 IT STRAIGHT, PRAISE GOD WE HAVE A GOD WHO IS PATIENT AND LOVING 16:30 AND FORGIVING, AND CAN TAKE DAMAGED GOODS AND MAKE SOMETHING 16:35 VERY, VERY USEFUL OUT OF THEM. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 16:41 >> MY MOM'S FOLK ARE CANADIAN. >> REALLY? 16:47 >> MY AUNT MARRIED A FRENCH CANADIAN, SO THEY USED TO SHIP 16:53 US OFF IN THE SUMMER FROM BUFFALO, NEW YORK. 16:57 >> IT IS BEAUTIFUL. >> IT IS BEAUTIFUL. 17:00 I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT END OF CANADA. 17:02 THAT'S COLD STUFF OUT THERE. AND IF UKRAINE WAS LIKE THAT, 17:07 THEN LORD BLESS YOU, BECAUSE IT -- THOSE ARE ROUGH 17:11 NEBRASKA-TYPE WINTERS. >> I LEFT CANADA WHEN I WAS 10 17:14 YEARS OLD, AND I CAN STILL REMEMBER GETTING A SAW AND 17:19 SAWING THE SNOW INTO BIG HUGE BLOCKS AND WE WOULD BUILD OUR 17:24 OWN IGLOO. YOU CAN WALK ON THE SNOW IT'S SO 17:33 HARD. >> OH, YEAH. 17:35 I'LL TELL YOU A QUICK STORY. MY MOM AND THE DEACON THAT WENT 17:44 TO CHURCH SATURDAY MORNING GOT SNOWED IN TO CHURCH. 17:48 THEY SIMPLY COULD NOT GET OUT OF CHURCH, SO THEY BROKE INTO THE 17:52 CHURCH KITCHEN, AND THEY ATE THEIR WAY ALL SABBATH AFTERNOON, 17:57 PRAISING AND SINGING, AND EATING CHURCH FOOD. 18:01 SO THEY KNOW SNOW IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK ALSO. 18:05 >> THIS LITTLE RUSSIAN-SPEAKING CHURCH. 18:08 I ALWAYS WANTED -- IF WE COULD DON'T BE TO CHURCH, WE HAD OUR 18:12 OWN CHURCH AT HOME. AND MY FOLKS WOULD HAVE ME HELP 18:17 HANDLE THE LESSON OR SOME STORY, AND WE WULD SET THE CHAIRS UP 18:23 SO I COULD BE THE PREACHER. AND I WOULD ALWAYS INSIST ON 18:26 BEING THE PREACHER. MY BROTHER JODY ONCE SAID, MOM, 18:31 HOW COME LONNIE ALWAYS GETS TO BE THE PREACHER? 18:34 I WANT TO BE THE PREACHER. NO, I'M GOING TO BE THE 18:38 PREACHER. AND SHE SAT ME IN THE BACK REAL 18:43 HARD. SHE SAID LON, YOU SIT BACK HERE. 18:54 LET JODY BE THE PREACHER. AND SO I MUTTERED TOO LOUD, 18:56 OKAY. HE CAN BE THE PREACHER, BUT I'LL 18:59 BE GOD. [ LAUGHTER ] 19:02 >> GOD MUST SMILE AT SOME THINGS. 19:03 >> INDEED. INDEED. 19:04 THAT'S A MOUTHFUL. >> HE'S FORGIVEN ME FOR THAT. 19:08 >> INDEED. YOU MENTIONED YOUR LOVELY WIFE 19:13 JEANIE, MARRIED HOW MANY YEARS? >> WELL, I MARRIED AT A VERY 19:18 YOUNG AGE -- >> PRAISE THE LORD. 19:20 >> WE HAD TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE STATE OF MARYLAND TO GET 19:24 MARRIED. BACK IN THOSE YEARS YOU HAD TO 19:27 BE 21. SO SHE HAS JUST TURNED 21 ON THE 19:31 WEEK WE WERE MARRIED. I WAS STILL 20, SO MY FOLKS HAD 19:36 TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF 19:40 MARYLAND. SO THIS AUGUST WE WILL BE 19:42 MARRIED 50 YEARS. >> BLESS YOUR HEART. 19:44 >> HARD TO BELIEVE. I LOOK AT HER, AND WE LAUGH AT 19:50 EACH OTHER. THIS CAN'T BE TRUE. 19:51 >> IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT IS DIRECTING YOU AND GIVING YOU 19:55 SPIRIT, BUT WHEN DID IT OCCUR TO YOU, THAT THIS WAS THE ONE? 20:03 >> AS WE WENT THROUGH COLLEGE, WE WERE FREE TO DATE EACH OTHER, 20:05 BUT WE WROTE LETTERS REGULARLY ALL THE TIME. 20:08 AND THE MORE SHE WROTE THE MORE I REALIZED THIS PERSON HAS A 20:12 DEPTH. AND SHE FELT THE SAME ABOUT ME. 20:15 HER PARENTS LIKED ME. MY FOLKS LIKED JEANIE. 20:20 AND WHEN SHE MOVED OUT TO WORK AT THE UNIVERSITY WHILE I WAS 20:24 FINISHING MY SENIOR YEAR, WE DECIDED TO GET MARRIED, AND IT 20:29 HAS BEEN AN BEAUTIFUL JOYRIDE EVER SINCE. 20:32 >> THAT'S WONDERFUL TO HEAR YOU SAY. 20:34 >> SHE IS THE WIND BENEATH MY WINGS. 20:40 SHE MAKES ME LOOK GOOD. YOU CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT I WOULD 20:41 LOOK LIKE. WHEN I WENT TO COLLEGE I WORE 20:46 RED SOCKS. >> THEY ARE WEARING THEM AGAIN. 20:47 THEY ARE BACK. >> AHEAD OF MY TIME. 20:50 >> WE'RE GOING TO GO TO MUSIC, AND THN WE HAD A CHANCE TO 20:55 INTERVIEW TOGETHER, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. 20:57 I WANT TO GET AN UPDATE ON THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A WONDERFUL 21:03 STORY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EVANGELISM 21:06 IN GENERAL. THE CHURCH HAS TOTAL MEMORY 21:11 EVANGELISM, 3ABN HAS BLESSING IS ON THE GO! AND PASTOR LONNIE HAS 21:19 BEEN IN THIS ALL OF HIS LIFE. TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HE 21:23 DID FOR THE CHURCH, BEFORE HE WENT INTO QUOTE, RETIREMENT. 21:29 I WANT TO GO INTO MUSIC AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE 21:32 CALLING FORWARD DANNY SHELTON WHO IS DOING A BEAUTIFUL SONG, 21:38 "HERE I AM, DEAR LORD." ♪ 21:51 ♪ HERE I AM, DEAR LORD ♪ ♪ TAKE ME NOW ♪ 21:58 ♪ TAKE ME NOW ♪ ♪ JUST AS I AM ♪ 22:08 ♪ TAKE THE BREATH YOU GAVE ME ♪ ♪ AND MOLD ME ALL OVER AGAIN ♪ 22:29 ♪ AND I'LL BE WHAT YOU WANT ME TO BE ♪ 22:37 ♪ THROUGHOUT ETERNITY ♪ ♪ I'LL BREATHE EACH BREATH OF MY 22:51 LIFE FOR YOU ♪ ♪ EACH BREATH FOR YOU, BREATH 22:55 FOR YOU ♪ ♪ HERE I AM, DEAR LORD ♪ 23:07 ♪ TAKE ME NOW, TAKE ME NOW ♪ ♪ JUST AS I AM ♪ 23:21 ♪ TAKE THE BREATH YOU GAVE ME ♪ ♪ TAKE THIS BODY OF CLAY ♪ 23:30 ♪ AND MOLD ME ALL OVER AGAIN ♪ ♪ AND I'LL SPREAD YOUR LOVE TO 23:51 EVERYONE ♪ ♪ AND TELL OF CALVARY ♪ 23:57 ♪ CALVARY ♪ ♪ I'LL TELL THE WORLD WHAT YOU 24:02 MEAN TO ME ♪ ♪ WHAT YOU MEAN TO ME ♪ 24:08 ♪ YES, MEAN TO ME ♪ ♪ HERE I AM ♪ 24:17 ♪ DEAR LORD ♪ ♪ TAKE ME NOW ♪ 24:22 ♪ TAKE ME NOW ♪ ♪ TAKE ME NOW ♪ 24:27 ♪ JUST AS I AM ♪ ♪ TAKE THE BREATH YOU GAVE ME ♪ 24:37 ♪ TAKE THIS BODY OF CLAY ♪ ♪ AND MOLD ME ALL OVER AGAIN ♪ 25:03 >> THANK YOU FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT AND FRIEND DANNY 25:08 SHELTON. VERY WELL SUNG. 25:09 VERY WELL DONE. MY GUEST IS PASTOR, EVANGELIST, 25:13 SPEAKER, AUTHOR, WRITER, LECTURER, LONNIE MELASHENKO. 25:19 AND LONNIE GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. 25:34 >> I'M SO HONORED TO BE HERE, AND I JUST THANK THE LORD FOR 25:35 ALL OF THOSE THINGS HE DESIGNED. AS A LITTLE KID GROWING UP ON 25:36 THE FIELDS OF SASKATCHEWAN IN THE WHEAT FIELDS, GOD HAD A 25:42 PLAN. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT I WOULD 25:48 GET TO HAVE THE FUNERAL FOR HMS RICHARDS, I JUST SAY LORD THANK 25:54 YOU. >> QUICKLY, WALK US THROUGH THE 25:58 [ INAUDIBLE ]. HOW DID YOU GET CALLED TO THAT 26:02 MINISTRY? >> I WORKED WITH GEORGE 26:04 VANDERMAN FOR FIVE YEARS, TRAVELED ALL OVER THE 26:14 ENGLISH-SPEAKING WORLD. BUT THEN GEORGE WAS JUST GETTING 26:15 INTO THE HEYDAY OF HIS CAREER, AND HE HAD TOLD ME HE WAS GOING 26:26 TO TRAIN ME AND I WOULD GO ON THE BROADCAST, AFTER TEN YEARS I 26:27 REALIZED GEORGE WAS JUST PULLING -- HE WAS AT HIS BEST, 26:29 IT WASN'T UNTIL AT LEAST TEN YEARS LATER THAT HE REALIZED 26:35 MAYBE I SHOULD BACK OFF. I WENT A CHURCH JOB. 26:42 AND HERALD RICHARDS SAID YOU HAVE GOT TO COME DOWN. 26:47 PLEASE WON'T YOU COME. I AHEAD HERALD I'M HAPPY 26:53 PREACHING DOWN HERE. BUT I WENT DOWN ONCE A MONTH FOR 26:58 TWO YEARS. AND FINALLY, HE SAID LONNIE, FW 27:02 YOU DON'T COME -- AND HE DIED VERY SHORTLY THEREAFTER. 27:06 SO THAT WAS A VERY PAINFUL THING FOR ME TO LEAVE PASTORAL 27:10 MINISTRY, BECAUSE I LOVED THE ONE TO ONE, AND TO ENCOURAGE 27:14 LAYMEN TO LIFT UP JESUS AND SHARE HIM IN WITNESS, SO THAT'S 27:17 HOW I GOT INTO THE RADIO TELEVISION, BECAUSE WE GOT INTO 27:22 SOME TELEVISION PRODUCTIONS, BIBLE STUDIES AND SO FORTH. 27:30 >> GOD HAS GIVEN YOU SUCH A WONDERFUL RADIO VOICE. 27:35 YOU HAVE THIS SMOOTH BARITONE VOICE THAT CAME ACROSS SO WELL 27:40 ON THE RADIO. >> I GOT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING 27:44 INTERESTING. I GREW UP IN A BLACK CHURCH. 27:47 MY FATHER WAS ORDAINED IN A BLACK CHURCH. 27:51 AND I'M USED TO A LITTLE BIT OF AMENS AND RESPONSES. 27:54 >> YES. >> BUT I'M ALSO COGNIZANT OF THE 27:58 FACT WHEN I GOT TO IT IS WRITTEN, AND I WAS DOING ON-AIR 28:06 COMMERCIALS, I WAS PREACHING AT THEM. 28:07 I WAS REALLY GIVING THEM THE BOOKS AND SO FORTH. 28:12 HAH THEY SAID NO, YOU GOT TO JUST TALK TO PEOPLE. 28:14 SO I WENT AND HAD COACHES OF ALL PEOPLE FROM LILLIAN SHAVAN. 28:21 SHE WAS THE COACH FOR MANY OF THE HOLLYWOOD PEOPLE, INCLUDING 28:25 ALL OF THE FOLKS ON WALT DISNEY'S MOUSEKETEERS. 28:30 AND SHE WOULD HAVE ME REPEAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND SAY 28:37 LONNIE JUST TALK TO ME. AND I THANK THE LORD FOR THAT 28:41 KIND OF COACHING TO BACK IT OFF. >> SO YOU HAD ANNETTE'S COACH. 28:52 IN THAT IS WONDERFUL. VERY WARM. 28:54 >> THANK YOU. AND SHE WOULD TELL ME, AND I 28:58 TELL OTHER PASTORS TOO, YOU HAVE GOT TO TAKE A BREATH. 29:03 PAUSE, TAKE A BEAT. SILENCE IS JUST AS PROFOUND AS 29:09 TALKING SOMETIMES, SO -- [ LAUGHTER ] 29:10 >> PRAISE THE LORD. HEY, MAN, WHILE WE 29:11 WERE -- BEFORE WE WERE TALKING YOU SAID SOMETHING TO ME ABOUT A 29:15 QUESTION, AND I WANT YOU TO GO INTO THAT NOW. 29:20 HMS RICHARDS ABOUT -- >> OH, YEAH. 29:23 >> THAT IS THE BASIS FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO TALK 29:28 ABOUT. >> HMS RICHARDS USED TO BE ASKED 29:33 WHENEVER HE WENT TO CAMP MEETINGS, BROTHER RICHARDS, WHEN 29:37 IS JESUS GOING TO COME IN WE HAVE THESE NEW INVENTIONS CALLED 29:41 WASHING MACHINES AND CLOTHES DRYERS, WHEN IS JESUS GOING TO 29:47 COME IN AND THOSE ADVENTIST WOMEN THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A 29:52 LITTLE CONSERVATIVE, AND IN CALIFORNIA WE UNDERSTAND THEY 29:55 ARE WEARING A LITTLE MAKEUP. WHAT ABOUT THAT, RICHARD? 29:59 HIS CLASSIC ANSWER WAS, WELL, IF THE BARN NEEDS PAINTING, PAINT 30:06 IT. BUT HE WOULD BE ASKED WHEN IS 30:09 JESUS GOING TO COME? HE ALWAYS HAD A ONE-WORD ANSWER. 30:13 WELL, I'M GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF. 30:15 WHEN IS JESUS GOING TO COME? WHEN ALL OF THE PREACHERS ARE IN 30:27 JAIL. AND MOST OF OUR AUDIENCES THAT I 30:28 SPEAK TO DON'T CATCH THAT. IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE NEW 30:30 TESTAMENT. IN THE KING JAMES THERE IS A 30:32 HUGE ADVANTAGE -- AS MUCH AS I LIKE ALL DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS. 30:36 ONE OF MY FAVORITES THE ANDREW UNIVERSITY STUDY BIBLE. 30:41 I CAN'T WAIT TO STUDY MY SABBATH SCHOOL LESSONS, AND I'M READING 30:47 THROUGH THE BIBLE AGAIN THIS YEAR, A LITTLE BIT FROM THE OLD 30:51 TESTAMENT, SOME OF FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT. 30:55 BUT IN KING JAMES, YE, THE, THOU, THAT'S ALWAYS SINGULAR. 31:03 YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SINGULAR OR PLURAL. 31:06 WHEN IT'S YOU IN KING JAMES IT'S ALMOST ALL PLURAL. 31:15 BUT YE IS SINGULAR. TO ME THAT IS VERY PROFOUND. 31:23 CA, YE ARE THE SALT OF THE EARTH, ONE PERSON. 31:29 >> YES. >> -- YE ARE AN ANOINTING. 31:37 YOU ARE JESUS CHRIST. YOU ARE THE SALT. 31:40 SO I -- AS A PASTOR -- AND THE MORE I HAVE STUDIED THIS, I'M 31:44 GETTING SO EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE NOW 31:48 TO LAYMEN. BECAUSE THE WORK IS NOT GOING TO 31:51 BE FINISHED BY MARK FINLEY, AND DOUG BACHELOR, AND ALL OF THESE 31:56 GREAT EVANGELISTS, IT IS GOING TO BE FINISHED WHEN THE 32:01 INDIVIDUAL LAYMAN RECOGNIZES, JESUS SAYS -- AND I JUST TALKED 32:06 TO DANNY TODAY. GO YE. 32:08 >> YES. >> AND HE OFTEN ASKS HIS 32:11 AUDIENCE, HOW MANY YE'S DO WE HAVE OUT THERE? 32:15 WE ALL NEED TO BE A PART OF THAT BEFORE JESUS COMES, AND THAT 32:19 WILL BE THE GLORY OF HEAVEN. >> AMEN. 32:22 >> AND THAT'S WHAT BRINGS GLORY TO JESUS. 32:25 >> AMEN. SO THESE NEW TOOLS, I WANT TO 32:28 TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE TONIGHT. 32:32 >> I LIKE THAT, THAT YE IS SINGULAR. 32:35 IT'S Y'ALL, IT'S YE. >> YES. 32:38 >> MY DEAR BROTHER, LONNIE MELASHENKO, I WILL DO TO YOU 32:43 WHAT ONE SHOULD NOT DO TO A GUEST, AND THAT'S THROW A LITTLE 32:47 SURPRISE AT YOU. A LITTLE CURVE. 32:50 AS I MENTIONED YOU AND I WERE TOGETHER SOME MONTHS AGO FOR A 32:54 SPECIAL BAPTISM THAT YOU WERE VERY, VERY INFLUENTIAL IN. 33:00 BUT THE BAPTIZER WAS YOU. THE BAPTIZEEE WAS SOMEONE THAT 33:05 WE SORT OF SLIPPED IN ON YOU TONIGHT. 33:08 SO SHE IS HERE. AND I'M GOING TO ASK LAURA -- 33:11 >> COME ON. NO? 33:13 >> I'M GOING TO ASK HER TO COME IN. 33:16 >> LAURA IS HERE. HELLO, SWEETHEART. 33:20 OH, WOW, WHAT A PLEASANT SURPRISE. 33:23 OH, WELL, CAN YOU SIT DOWN BESIDE ME. 33:26 >> LAURA SIT DOWN. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE. 33:30 NOW, OF COURSE, WE HAVE GOT TO REVISIT THE STORY. 33:34 [ LAUGHTER ] >> YOU ASKED ME IF I WAS AT 33:37 WORK. [ LAUGHTER ] 33:38 >> THIS IS -- THIS IS LAURA SOMMERFIELD. 33:41 AND LONNIE, I GUESS YOU GOT TO WALK US THROUGH THE STORY, 33:46 BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT STORY, AND PROCLAIM! IS PART OF THAT STORY. 33:51 SO IT'S GOOD HAVE YOU HERE. >> THIS IS SO TERRIFIC. 33:55 YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NETWORK ON THE 3ABN TELECAST, CALLED 34:02 PROCLAIM!. >> YES. 34:03 >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE EVER GONE THERE. 34:17 BECAUSE I'M COMPUTER ILLITERATE, BUT THAT'S WHERE DOUG BACHELOR, 34:18 KEN COX, LONNIE MELASHENKO AND OTHERS ARE 24 HOURS A DAY 34:19 PREACHING. SOMEHOW THIS YOUNG LADY LAURA, 34:21 SHE WORKED IN THE BISHOP OFFICE, WHERE HER PRIEST WAS HER BOSS. 34:33 SHE WAS A DEDICATED CATHOLIC, HER HUSBAND IS A DEDICATED 34:34 CATHOLIC, BUT SHE GOT TO WATCHING THE 3ABN PROCLAIM!. 34:37 AND ONE PARTICULAR SUBJECT REALLY BUGGED YOU. 34:39 >> YES. >> TELL US ABOUT THAT. 34:41 CAN YOU HEAR HER? IS SHE MIC'D UP? 34:44 >> YEAH. >> WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE 34:47 IN -- I THOUGHT I KNEW WHAT HAPPENED, AND I WAS LEARNING OR 34:52 HEARING DIFFERENTLY, AND SO I ENDED UP WRITING HIM, AND -- 35:00 >> YOU GUYS GAVE MY EMAIL TO HER, SO WE STARTED AN EMAIL 35:07 CORRESPONDENCE. AND SHE REALLY WAS NOT TOO 35:09 PLEASED WITH THE FACT, BECAUSE SHE SAID, WELL, MY MOTHER PASSED 35:13 AWAY, AND I'M COMMUNICATING WITH MY MOTHER. 35:15 >> YEAH, YOU WERE READY TO GIVE HIM A PIECE OF YOUR MIND. 35:20 YOU WERE KIND OF UPSET WITH HIM. >> YES, I WAS. 35:23 >> SO WE BEGAN TO TALK, AND I TRIED NOT TO BE TOO OVERT, BUT 35:29 EVERYTHING I SHARED WITH HER WAS FROM THE BIBLE, AND SHE WAS A 35:33 GOOD STUDENT. SHE WOULD GO AND TRACK IT DOWN 35:35 AND READ IT. SO PRETTY SOON SHE BEGAN TO FEEL 35:38 SHE COULD TRUST ME, AND SHE COULD GO AHEAD TO THE OTHER 35:43 STUDIES, BECAUSE THIS ONE REALLY HUNG HER UP, BUT WE GOT 35:49 ACQUAINTED. GAVE HER MY TELEPHONE NUMBER, 35:52 AND I SAID I'M GOING TO BE IN CLEVELAND ONE WEEKEND. 35:57 AND I WOULD LIKE TO PRAY WITH YOU. 36:02 GIVE ME A CALL. SHE WAS SO BLOWN AWAY THAT THIS 36:06 TELEVISION PERSONALITY WAS TALKING TO HER. 36:08 WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU? >> I COULDN'T TALK. 36:11 I WAS JUST BLUBBERY. >> FIVE OR TEN MINUTES IT WAS A 36:16 ONE-WAY CONVERSATION. BUT I LEAD HER TO THE LORD 36:19 THROUGH THE SINNER'S PRAYER, AND LAURA HAS NEVER BEEN THE SAME 36:24 SINCE. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 36:26 >> IT HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE BORN AGAIN, BRIGHT, BEAUTIFUL, MY NEW 36:32 SISTER IN CHRIST, AND I TOLD HER THAT, AND SHE HAS BEEN SUG 36:37 L -- STRUGGLING TO GROW. AND SHE MISSED A LOT OF THEM. 36:44 SHE BEGAN TO ASK THE PRIEST QUESTIONS, AND THE FOLKS AT THE 36:48 OFFICE THERE, AND HE SLAPPED HER ONE DAY IN FRONT OF OTHER 36:52 PEOPLE. >> NOW THIS WAS A PUBLIC SLAP? 36:55 >> IN FRONT OF PEOPLE IN THE OFFICE. 37:00 >> PUBLIC. >> JUST ASKING TOO MANY 37:02 QUESTIONS, BUT SHE BEGAN TO STUDY AND GROW, AND IT WAS A 37:06 BEAUTIFUL THING. SO I SAID I HAVE AN OLD, OLD SET 37:09 OF MY VOICE OF PROPHECY SPEAKS. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET THEM -- 37:15 >> WE HAVE OUR WAYS. >> YEAH, YOU HAVE YOUR WAYS. 37:25 SO I SENT THEM -- AND WHAT HAPPENED? 37:26 >> I STARTED WATCHING THEM. >> BUT I SENT YOU A SET OF -- 37:28 >> VHS TAPES. >> I SAID CAN I LOAN THEM TO 37:35 YOU? IT'S THE ONLY SET I HAVE. 37:36 BUT I HAVE GIVEN THEM TO HER, AND SHE STUDIED THAT SERIES. 37:42 SHE LOOKED AT THEM FOUR OR FIVE TIMES. 37:45 SHE KNEW THEM BETTER THAN I DID. >> SO YOU WERE REALLY SEARCHING 37:49 AND SEEKING. >> YES, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT, BUT 37:54 AS IT STARTED COMING ON, AND SINKING IN, I THOUGHT I NEED 37:58 MORE OF THIS, AND IT WAS SPIRITUALLY HUNGRY, AND I DIDN'T 38:02 REALIZE THAT UNTIL I STARTED HEARING ALL OF THIS, AND 38:05 COULDN'T GET ENOUGH OF IT. AND I COULDN'T WAIT TO GET HOME 38:11 FROM WORK AND WATCH A TAPE. AND I WAS TYPING AND TAKING 38:15 NOTES, BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, I THOUGHT I WOULD BE GIVING THE 38:18 TAPES BACK TO HIM, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO FORGET WHAT I WAS 38:22 LEARNING. >> LET ME ASK YOU QUICKLY, 38:25 BECAUSE HER INITIAL CONTACT TO YOU WAS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE, 38:28 BECAUSE YOU HAD SORT OF DISTURBED THE WATERS, BUT YOU 38:33 SAW THAT TO A PERSON WHO WAS REALLY LOOKING FOR ANSWERS 38:37 SINCERELY. >> SHE DID. 38:39 LAURA -- I'LL JUST MENTION A LITTLE BACKGROUND HERE. 38:42 SHE HAS BEEN ABUSED BY MEN FOR HER LIFE, AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE 38:49 OF, BEEN A DOORMAT TO THE POINT WHERE SHE HAD NO SENSE OF SELF 38:54 WORTH, AND SHE DID ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY JUST TO TRY TO PLEASE 38:57 THAT INDIVIDUAL, AND SO I SENSED A DEEP, DEEP NEED HERE. 39:03 SHE COULD NOT CONVERSE WITH ME ON THE PHONE, BUT SHE IS A 39:08 GIFTED WRITER, COMMUNICATOR, AND I WOULD SHARE LITTLE SOMETHING 39:11 ON THE EMAIL AND IT WOULD COME BACK A PAGE, AND I COULDN'T KEEP 39:16 UP WITH THE CORRESPONDENCE ALL THE TIME. 39:18 SHE WAS JUST SO HUNGRY, AND SO IN -- IN EARNEST ABOUT KNOWING 39:26 THIS NEW PERSON WHO BECAME HER BEST FRIEND. 39:29 >> UH-HUH. >> JUST FOR EXAMPLE OF SOME OF 39:31 THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT WERE MIRACLES ALONG THE WAY. 39:35 SHE SAID I NOW KNOW JESUS BUT I HAVE TO GO TO THIS ANNUAL EVENT 39:40 THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR YEARS. WE HAVE A GREAT BI BOURBON 39:44 PARTY. AND WE ALL HAVE TO BRING A NEW 39:47 BOURBON RECIPE. AND I'M SUPPOSED TO GO THERE AND 39:52 BRING A BOURBON RECIPE, AND MY HUSBAND EXPECTS ME TO DO THIS 39:55 BECAUSE HE IS IN CHARGE. AND I SAID TAKE A COCA-COLA 40:03 RECIPE OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I SAID YOU JUST DRINK COKE, NOT 40:06 THE BEER. AND SHE SAID THE PROBLEM IS WE 40:08 ALWAYS GET SO DRUNK WHN WE'RE FINISHED EVERYBODY TAKES OFF 40:16 THEIR CLOTHES AND WE GO SWIMMING NUDE IN THE SWIMMING POOL. 40:21 I SAID LAURA, JESUS WANTS YOU TO START TO WALK TALL WITH 40:24 INTEGRITY AS A NEW-BORN CHRISTIAN, AND YOU TELL HIM 40:29 THAT. HE IS BOUND -- HE IS PROMISED. 40:31 HE DOESN'T LIE. HE WILL DO SOMETHING. 40:34 I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL BE, BUT IT WILL BE A MIRACLE THAT 40:38 YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE, AND HE WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU. 40:42 SHE WROTE ME A NOTE AND SAID -- WHAT HAPPENED THAT 40:45 WEEKEND? >> IT RAINED. 40:46 >> THE BIGGEST RAIN IN MONTHS IN INDIANA. 40:49 >> SO THERE WAS NO SWIMMING. >> SO THEY CANCELED THE POOL 40:54 PARTY. [ LAUGHTER ] 40:55 >> AND IT HAS BEEN THOSE KIND OF STORIES ONE AFTER ANOTHER. 40:59 THE CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN LAURA AND LONNIE HAS BEEN SUCH THAT 41:06 JEANIE UNDERSTANDS, LAURA HAS BEEN TALKING TO ME, I GOT TO 41:16 SEND A NOTE. BUT SHE HAS GROWN TO THE POINT, 41:17 WHERE I FEEL THAT THIS CORRESPONDENCE -- IT'S THIS 41:19 THICK OF PAGES OF -- YOU KNOW, 8.5 BY 11, JUST WITH YOUR STAFF 41:24 TODAY, WITH JILL, AND WITH THE FOLKS AT REMNANT PUBLICATIONS, 41:33 AND I TALKED TO DANNY SHELTON TODAY, WE HAVE JUST BEEN ON THE 41:35 EMAIL, WE'RE HOPING WE CAN PULL TOGETHER ALL OF THESE EMALS 41:36 INTO A NEW KIND OF BOOK, THAT WILL JUST BE AN EXCHANGE OF 41:43 EMAILS, BECAUSE IT SHOWS THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE EVANGELISTIC 41:44 HOOK AND HOW YOU NEED TO BE PATIENT AND WHAT YOU SHARE AND 41:47 WHAT YOU DON'T QUITE SHARE UNTIL LATER, AND LAURA HAS BEEN 41:51 WILLING TO OPEN -- BY THE WAY, SHE STILL WORKS FOR THE PRIEST. 41:54 HE IS STILL HER BOSS. AND WE HAVE BEEN SUPPLYING HER 41:58 OCCASIONAL LITTLE ARTICLES, BECAUSE YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 42:01 THE SUNDAY BULLETIN. >> YES, THAT'S RIGHT. 42:04 HE SENDS ME LITTLE CLIPS THAT I CAN PUT IN. 42:07 >> YOU PUT LITTLE THINGS IN THE SUNDAY BULLETIN. 42:12 PRAISE THE LORD. [ LAUGHTER ] 42:12 >> AND SOME OF THE MEMBERS SAY, WHY DID YOU GET THIS? 42:19 YOU PUT ONE IN FOR EASTER, RIGHT? 42:22 >> UH-HUH. >> WHAT DID THEY SAY? 42:28 >> THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 42:29 >> NOT ONLY THAT, SHE STARTED GIVING BIBLE STUDIES. 42:31 >> YEAH. IT'S ON THUNDER IN THE HOLY 42:36 LANDS, AND HE IS NARRATING IT, AND HE MADE A SET AVAILABLE TO 42:40 ME, SO I HAVE A SMALL CLASS THAT I LEAD, AND IT'S -- IT'S GREAT. 42:44 I'M LEARNING A LOT -- LAST NIGHT WAS GREAT. 42:47 >> WHAT WAS THE TITLE LAST NIGHT? 42:51 >> LOVE IS A P-LETTER WORD. >> P WORD. 43:02 >> AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW THIS. >> I DIDN'T. 43:03 >> SHE THOUGHT LOVE WAS A FEELING. 43:04 I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO HER. SHE THOUGHT I HAVE NEVER 43:09 GENERATED SOME OF THESE THINGS. BUT IN THIS SERIES, WE EXPLAIN 43:15 WHAT, THA LOVE IS A, PRINCIPLE. >> A PRINCIPLE, NOT A FEELING. 43:22 >> SO NOW SHE IS EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 43:27 >> YOU REALLY TAKE TREMENDOUS NOTES. 43:28 YOU ARE GOING BACK AND STUDYING AND MAKING SURE THAT IT IS SO. 43:32 >> YEAH. >> YEAH, HER PASTOR IS -- PASTOR 43:37 NORRIS -- >> PASTOR NORRIS -- 43:39 >> AND YOU ARE IN WHICH CHURCH THERE? 43:43 >> FIRST. >> YES. 43:44 >> AND THE PASTOR'S WIFE IS A BIBLE WORKER. 44:01 >> GAYLENE. >> AND SHE SAID I THINK YOU KNOW 44:02 MANY OF THESE LESSONS AS WELL I DO. 44:03 BECAUSE SHE HAS TAKEN COPIOUS NOTES. 44:06 SO HERE IS A PRODUCT. HERE IS A NEW 3ABN -- 44:09 >> AMEN. >> I CAN STAND UP AND SAY THERE 44:12 I AM BY THE GRACE OF GOD. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 44:15 PRAISE THE LORD. >> WHAT A SURPRISE. 44:20 MY WIFE PROBABLY KNEW THIS. DID SHE KNOW? 44:34 >> NOT VERY LONG. >> I WAS GOING TO MEET HER AT 44:35 THE AIRPORT TOMORROW -- >> WELL, WE STILL CAN. 44:36 [ LAUGHTER ] >> OKAY. 44:37 >> PRAISE THE LORD. LAURA, I HAVE TO ASK YOU ONE 44:38 QUESTION, BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL WORKING AT THE CATHOLIC DIOCESE. 44:40 >> YES, IAM. >> AND OBVIOUSLY THE LORD IS 44:43 USING YOU TO BRING INFORMATION IN, BUT YOU HAD NO INTENTION OF 44:47 QUITTING. WHEN HE SLAPPED YOU, WERE YOU OF 44:49 THE MIND SET TO WALK AWAY. >> NO. 44:53 NO. I WAS ALREADY A CHANGED PERSON 44:54 BY THEN, AND I JUST LET IT GO BY. 45:00 >> HUM. UH-HUH. 45:04 >> PART OF THIS, I THINK IS BECAUSE OF HER BACKGROUND OF 45:11 FEELING SUCH A DOORMAT. BUT SHE'S -- SHE'S DONE THAT, 45:13 AND I TOLD HER LAURA, JESUS WAS SLAPPED. 45:15 JESUS WAS ABUSED. YOU REPRESENT JESUS IN WAYS YOU 45:17 DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND YOU CAN'T 45:20 BELIEVE THAT HE WOULD DO THAT TO YOU, AND THIS IS NOT LAURA. 45:25 THIS IS JESUS. >> THIS IS JESUS. 45:29 >> I WANT YOU TO STAY WITH US UNTIL THE END, BUT I WANT TO ASK 45:34 A QUESTION BEFORE WE MOVE ON. WALK US THROUGH, OR COMPARE THE 45:38 OLD LAURA, TO THE LAURA NOW. FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE SMILING 45:43 ALL THE TIME. GIVE US SOME SENSE OF THE OLD 46:03 LAURA, AS OPPOSED TO THE LAURA OF TODAY? 46:04 THE NEW LAURA WHO IS WALKING IN CHRIST JESUS. 46:05 >> THE OLD LAURA DIDN'T KNOW JESUS, BUT I THOUGHT I DID. 46:06 I THOUGHT I WAS A CHRISTIAN, AND I JUST DIDN'T EVEN RAN THE FENCE. 46:08 I JUST DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. I THOUGHT, OH, I'LL BE IN 46:12 HEAVEN, AND I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT YOU -- YOU DON'T JUST THINK 46:16 YOU ARE GOING TO BE IN HEAVEN, AND YOU GET THERE. 46:20 AND WHEN I WAS SAVED, I COULD FEEL -- I FELT DIFFERENT. 46:26 I WOULD FEEL JESUS IN ME, AND HE HAS ME DOING THINGS THAT I NEVER 46:31 WOULD HAVE DONE BEFORE, AND I'M RIGHT NOW GETTING OVER A HURDLE 46:37 OF A VERY SHY, AND SCARED TO DEATH TO GET UP IN FRONT OF 46:42 PEOPLE, AND I WAS ASKED TO READ SCRIPTURE AT CHURCH, AND THE 46:47 FIRST TIME THEY ASKED ME, IT JUST SCARED ME TO DEATH, AND I 46:53 JUST -- I DIDN'T SAY YES OR NO, I JUST HAD THIS SCARED LOOK ON 47:02 MY FACE, AND THEY SAID I CAN TELL YOU ARE IN A PANIC, I'LL 47:05 ASK SOMEONE ELSE. AND TEN MINUTES LATER I FELT 47:10 REALLY BAD AND I REALIZED BY NOT SAYING YES TO THEM, I SAID NO TO 47:15 JESUS, AND THAT REALLY BOTHERED ME. 47:17 AND BEFORE I WAS SAVED, I WOULDN'T HAVE THOUGHT ANYTHING 47:20 ABOUT THAT. IT WOULDN'T HAVE BOTHERED ME AT 47:23 ALL, BUT I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT HOW I TREAT JESUS NOW. 47:28 >> UH-HUH. >> AND LONG STORY SHORT, I -- I 47:34 LEARNED THROUGH HELP WITH MY MONITORS, COYLEAN, AND PASTOR 47:42 LONNIE BOTH GAVE ME TLC AND COACHING AND -- ON THAT, AND I 47:48 LEARNED THAT I CAN'T THINK ABOUT HOW I FEEL WHEN I'M UP THERE 47:52 READING. IT'S -- IT'S THE HOLY 47:56 BIBLE -- IT'S GOD'S HOLY WORD, AND I AM HONORED TO BE ASKED TO 48:03 READ HIS HOLY WORD TO HIS PEOPLE. 48:11 >> AMEN. WOW. 48:11 >> AND I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT AND REMEMBER THAT IN OTHER 48:13 SITUATIONS BECAUSE THEN WE DID A WASHING OF THE FEET, AND I WAS 48:16 KIND OF -- I HAD DONE IT BEFORE ONE TIME, BUT I HAD A PARTNER 48:22 THEN, AND THIS TIME I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PARTNER, AND IT 48:26 WAS UP TO ME TO GET UP OFF OF THE BENCH AND TO GO DOWNSTAIRS 48:30 AND JOIN THE OTHER LADIES, AND I -- IT WAS EASIER TO SIT IN THE 48:39 PEW, I JUST COULDN'T -- AND THEN I REMEMBERED, LAURA, IT'S NOT 48:40 ABOUT YOU OR HOW YOU ARE FEELING. 48:43 DON'T LISTEN TO YOUR FEELINGS. IT'S ABOUT GOD, AND WASHING 48:46 OTHER PEOPLE'S FEET IS LIKE WITNESSING AND HELPING, AND IT'S 48:53 BEING JESUS, AND THAT DID IT. I JUMPED UP AND WENT DOWN THERE. 49:04 AND THE MINUTE I GOT TO THE DOORWAY, A LADY SAID MAY I BE 49:06 YOUR SERVANT? AND I'M LIKE, YEAH, WOW, THE 49:07 HOLY SPIRIT TOOK CARE OF IT IMMEDIATELY. 49:08 >> THAT'S BEAUTIFUL. >> AND WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN, 49:11 SHE ALWAYS SENDS ME A NOTE. AND SHE JUST EFFERVESCES AND 49:17 WRITES WITH JOY, AND WRITES POETRY ABOUT THIS. 49:20 SO ALL OF THIS, I HOPE CAN GO INTO A BOOK TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE 49:39 WHO ALSO FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE NOTHING. 49:40 THEY HAVE NO PURPOSE. THEY HAVE BEEN ABUSED AND TAKEN 49:42 ADVANTAGE OF. BUT THERE'S HOPE FOR LAURA, AND 49:43 I'M JUST CHUCKLING LISE, BECAUSE I HAVE NEVER HEARD HER TALK SO MUCH IN HER LIFE. 49:45 YOU ARE GOING TO BECOME AN APOSTLE PAUL YET. 49:48 >> PRAISE THE LORD. LONNIE YOU HAVE BEEN SERVING THE 49:51 LORD FOR SO MANY, MANY YEARS, BUT IT MUST FEEL NICE IN YOUR 49:58 QUOTE, RETIREMENT, SO HAVE A TROPHY LIKE THIS -- AND I MEAN 50:03 FOR THE KINGDOM -- THAT IS A DIRECT LINK FROM YOUR PREACHING 50:13 TO THE BAPTISMAL POOL TO THE LORD. 50:17 >> I SAY THINGFULLY, GOD BE THE GLORY. 50:22 SHE IS SEEING PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS AND RECOGNIZING, GOD 50:27 IS USING HER AS A VOICE -- DIFFERENT THINGS HAPPEN 50:30 IN MY LIFE EVEN NOW AS YOU SAY I'M SEMIRETIRED. 50:34 WE WERE IN A TACO BELL THE OTHER DAY. 50:37 AND WE WERE WAITING IN A LONG LINE. 50:39 AND THERE WAS A PIECE OF PAPER ON THE FLOOR. 50:42 WELL, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF THESE FAST-FOOD RESTAURANTS THAT'S 50:45 JUST -- AND PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS CLEANING IT UP. 50:48 BUT I WENT OVER, AND THOUGHT I CAN PICK THAT UP AND PUT IT IN 50:52 THE TRASH. THE MANAGER CAME OVER AND SAID I 50:55 SAW THAT SIR. I WANT TO TELL EASTER PROGRAM IN 51:23 PHOENIX, ARIZONA, ONE OF THE BIG CHURCHES. 51:26 THEY HAD A FULL ORCHESTRA. AND A CHOIR. 51:30 AND I DECIDED I JUST NEEDED TO SPEND TIME IN PRAYER AND JUST AS 51:38 PASSIONATELY AS I KNEW HOW DO THE NARRATION BETWEEN THE SONGS, 51:42 AND LITTLE DID I KNOW FOUR PEOPLE WALKED OFF OF THE 51:47 STREETS, ONE WAS A FORMER MINISTER OF MUSIC IN A CHURCH. 51:52 I DIDN'T KNOW THIS UNTIL I LEFT TWO DAYS AGO, AND THE PASTOR 51:56 CALLED ME AND HE SAID HE IS SO IMPRESSED -- WELL, HE SAID, THAT 52:01 PERSON WHO READ, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW HE READ THAT. 52:04 HE SAID, WAS IT BAD? NO, I WAS SO MOVED, THAT I 52:10 SENSED THERE IS A PRESENCE HERE AND I WANT TO START COMING TO 52:14 YOUR CHURCH. >> OH, PRAISE GOD. 52:16 >> THAT TELLS ME WHOEVER I AM, WHATEVER I DO, IT MAKES AN 52:22 IMPRESSION. AND WE NEED TO GIVE OUR BEST. 52:25 SO I TOLD LAURA, YOU REPRESENT JESUS, AND HE IS USING YOU. 52:38 BUT OF COURSE MANY MANY OF OUR VIEWERS ARE WONDERFUL DEDICATED 52:43 CATHOLICS. AND CATHOLICS, ONCE THEY 52:46 DISCOVER THE BIBLE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF A PERSONAL 52:51 COMMITMENT TO JESUS, THEY BECOME SOME OF THE MOST DEDICATED 52:53 WONDERFUL -- WE BAPTIZED THREE PRIESTS IN THE PHILIPPINES 53:00 BECAUSE THEY RECOGNIZED THERE IS SOMETHING DFFERENT ABOUT THIS 53:01 MESSAGE. AND THAT GETS ME UP IN THE 53:03 MORNING. >> UH-HUH. 53:04 >> AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HER EMAILS. 53:07 >> PRAISE THE LORD. HAPPY YOU COULD MAKE IT. 53:09 >> THANK YOU. >> AND SECONDLY, THAT GOD IS 53:22 DOING SUCH WONDERFUL THINGS IN YOUR LIFE, HOW GOD WILL STRETCH 53:23 YOU AND MOVE YOU FROM A COMFORT ZONE, AND TAKE YOU TO PLACES 53:25 THAT YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU WOULD GO, AND GIVE YOU JOBS THAT YOU 53:28 DIDN'T THINK YOU WOULD FULFILL, BUT THAT IS HAPPENING IN REAL 53:31 TIME IN YOUR LIFE. >> AMEN. 53:36 I HAVE TO ASK YOU, WHEN I CALLED YOU, AND YOU WEREN'T IN YOUR 53:42 OFFICE, WERE YOU DRIVING HERE? >> KNOW, I WAS HERE FOR SEVERAL 54:00 HOURS. >> YEAH, WE HAD SOMEONE TO TAKE 54:01 YOU, AND SOMEONE TO TAKE HER. AND WE COULDN'T LET YOU GET 54:02 TOGETHER. >> YOU FOLKS ARE TRULY 54:03 BEAUTIFULLY DECEITFUL. YOU PULLED IT OFF, IT'S 54:04 WONDERFUL. I LOVE IT. 54:05 >> WE WERE JUST HOPING SOMETHING WOULDN'T SLIP UP, BUT THIS IDEA 54:11 THAT GOD WILL USE ANYBODY AT ANYTIME IN ANYPLACE IN ANY WAY 54:15 TO LIFT UP JESUS IS A POWERFUL POWERFUL THING. 54:18 >> I HAVE A STORY ABOUT A CAB DRIVER IN NEW YORK. 54:21 AND HE IS TAKING THIS OLD LADY AND REALIZES THAT SHE IS GOING 54:27 TO AN END OF LIFE CARE PLACE. WHAT DO WE CALL THEM, HOSPICE? 54:33 >> YEAH. >> AND SHE ASKED THE DRIVER TO 54:35 TAKE HER AROUND MANHATTAN AND STOP AT CERTAIN PLACES. 54:40 AND AT FIRST HE WAS, YOU KNOW, MIFFED THAT HE HAD TO PICK UP 54:45 THIS OLD LADY, AND TOWARD THE END SHE -- SHE WANTED TO 54:50 JUST -- BECAUSE SHE SAID MY DOCTOR SAYS YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH 54:53 TIME LEFT, HE TURNED OFF THE METER AND DROVE HER ALL OVER 54:59 NEW YORK UNTIL THE SUN WAS COMING UP, AND SHE SAID, I THINK 55:04 I NEED TO GO NOW. HE TOOK HER TO THE ADDRESS. 55:07 THE ORDERLIES CAME OUT, AND HE IS TOOK THE SUITCASE IN, AND SHE 55:12 SAID GOOD-BYE, AND HE REALIZED THIS WAS IT. 55:17 LATER HE WROTE AND HE SAID I THINK THAT WAS THE MOST 55:20 IMPORTANT THING I HAVE EVER DONE IN MY LIFE. 55:22 WE TEND TO BE TOLD THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE GREAT THINGS, 55:26 BUT IT'S THAT LITTLE THING THAT WE DO -- BECAUSE BEFORE HE LEFT 55:32 HER, SHE SAID HOW MUCH DO I OWE YOU? 55:39 YOU DON'T OWE ME ANYTHING. AND SHE TOOK HIS HAND AND SAID 55:43 THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. 55:45 AND HE SAID THAT'S HOW I WOULD WANT MY OWN MOTHER TO BE 55:57 TREATED, BUT HE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT IT'S THE BIG 55:58 THING. BUT IT ISN'T WHAT YOU DO OR WHAT 55:59 YOU SAY, IT'S HOW YOU MAKE PEOPLE FEEL. 56:00 >> YES, AGREE. >> AND MY UNDERSTANDING WHEN 56:05 JESUS TALKS ABOUT AND WHAT OTHER SPIRITUAL WRITERS HAVE SAID, 56:10 THIS IS WHAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 56:11 >> UH-HUH. >> AND EVERYBODY HAS THAT 56:13 CHANCE, WHETHER YOU ARE A CAB DRIVER OR A HAIRCUT PERSON OR 56:17 BEAUTICIAN, YOU CAN MAKE A PERSON FEEL BETTER FOR JESUS 56:24 SAKE. >> AMEN. 56:25 AMEN. POWERFUL. 56:25 VERY, VERY WELL SAID. AND THE FACT THAT GOD WILL USE 56:30 ANYONE ANY TIME. QUICK STORY, WE'RE COMING TO 56:32 THEN OF THE HOUR. I WAS CALLED ONE DAY, AND THERE 56:38 WAS A LADY IN A NURSING FACILITY, AND SHE HEARD ME 56:42 LAUGH, JUST THE LAUGH, AND SHE SAID I GOT TO MEET THAT GUY WITH 56:45 THAT LAUGH. ANYBODY WHO LAUGHS LIKE THAT, I 56:47 GOT TO MEET HIM. SO SHE CALLED HER NURSE WHO 56:51 CALLED SOMEONE ELSE WHO CALLED SOMEONE ELSE WHO CALLED APRIL 56:56 WARD, WHO CALLED MY WIFE, AND I SAID WE HAVE GOT TO MEET THIS 57:01 WOMAN. AND WHAT WAS GOING TO BE A 57:04 10-MINUTE VISIT, LASTED TWO HOURS. 57:07 AND SHE SAID THAT LAUGH I JUST LOVE IT. 57:09 SO I ASKED HER IF SHE WANTED TO COME TO CHURCH. 57:15 SHE SAID YES. SO I HAD TO BUILD SOME RAMPS TO 57:22 BRING HER WHEELCHAIR IN, AND IN PUTTING IN THE RAMPS, I RIPPED 57:29 BY SUIT PANTS. AND THE NEXT WEEK, I HAD ON 57:33 JEANS, AND SHE SAID WHEN YOU RIPPED YOUR SUIT PANTS HELPING 57:38 ME, I SAW THAT. AND WE BAPTIZED HER, AND TWO 57:44 YEARS LATER SHE PASSED. STAY WITH US, WE'LL BE BACK IN 57:48 JUST TWO MINUTES, AND TWO SECONDS. 57:50 ♪ |
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