¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY
LIFE ¤ ¤ SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤-¤
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REMOVING PAIN ¤ ¤ LORD LET
MY WORDS ¤ ¤ LET MY WORDS ¤
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¤ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT
¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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>> HELLO AND WELCOME
TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
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I AM SO EXCITED. MY
NAME IS YVONNE LEWIS, AND I
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AM CO-HOSTING WITH ME, WHO
REALLY SHOULD BE IN THIS SEAT,
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OUR PRESIDENT AND
FOUNDER, DANNY SHELTON.
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>> I'M HAPPY TO BE
HERE. >> OH, THANK YOU.
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>> WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROGRAM
TODAY, WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL
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GUESTS. >> WE DO.
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>> WE'RE GOING TO
HAVE MUSIC IN A LITTLE BIT.
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AND THANK YOU DR. YVONNE FOR
WHAT YOU DO WITH DARE TO DREAM
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AND YOUR LOVE
FOR JESUS SHINES OUT.
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JESUS SAYS DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME,
AND THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY
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AND PRIVILEGE. WE
WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TODAY
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THAT WHEN JESUS WAS HANGING ON
THE CROSS, YOU WERE ON HIS MIND.
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ISN'T THAT AMAZING? HE
COULD LOOK DOWN THE STREAM OF
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TIME AND PEOPLE THAT WERE
WILLING TO GIVE THEIR LIVES IN
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DEATH IF NECESSARY.
WE GET TO BE THAT LAST
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GENERATION PEOPLE THAT CAN
RIGHTLY REPRESENT JESUS, GIVE AN
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UNDILUTED THREE
AN GELSEE MESSAGES.
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I WANT YOU TO
INTRODUCE OUR GUESTS TODAY.
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THIS PROGRAM IS ABOUT LIFTING UP
JESUS, AND SO THE GUEST THAT WE
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HAVE TODAY, THEY ARE
INCREDIBLE -- WE'LL CALL THEM
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YOUNG -- EVERYBODY IS YOUNG TO
ME ANYMORE, BUT WE'LL CALL THEM
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YOUNG GIRLS OR YOUNG
WOMEN, BUT JESUS SHINES IN THEM.
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YOU WANT TO
INTRODUCE THEM? >> I DO.
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SO FIRST OF ALL THEY
ARE THE HOLMES SISTERS.
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AND THEY ARE ORIGINALLY FROM
NEW YORK, AND YOU WILL GET TO
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TELL US EVERYTHING ABOUT
YOURSELVES, BUT I HAVE KNOWN
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THEM FOR YEARS. I
HAVE KNOWN THEIR MOM, THEIR
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DAD, AND I HAVE WATCHED THEM
GROW UP, AND I'M SO PROUD OF
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THEM. SO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
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I KNOW YOU ARE THE HOLMES
SISTERS, BUT YOU ARE MARRIED.-I
DON'T KNOW YOUR LAST NAMES.
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SO KIMBERLY? >> HELLO.
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I AM KIMBERLY HOLMES-JAMES, AND
I'M MARRIED TO TERENCE JAMES.
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WE HAVE TWO BOYS.
JOHN-JOHN AND JOSHUA, HELLO,
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GUYS. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> WE GIVE IN CONNECTICUT.
AND I'M JUST HAPPY TO BE HERE.
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GOD IS SO GOOD AND
WORTHY TO BE PRAISED.
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>> AMEN. >> WONDERFUL.
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OKAY. >> HI, I AM TAISHA
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HOLMES-BULGIN,
AND I AM THE MIDDLE.
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>> OKAY. >> AND
I'M MARRIED TO PASTOR
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ORVILLE BULGIN. WE
HAVE TWO WONDERFUL CHILDREN,
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SARAH AND SAMUEL. >> WONDERFUL.
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>> AND HE IS PASTORING WHERE?
>> HE IS THE ASSISTANT PASTOR OF
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THE CHURCH IN
ROYAL QUEENS, NEW YORK.
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>> WONDERFUL. >>
HI, MY NAME IS JANETH
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HOLMES-ALFRED, AND I'M THE
BABY. >> OH, YOU ARE THE BABY.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> I
WASN'T GOING TO ASK ABOUT
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AGE. >> I LIKE
TO SAY THAT I'M THE
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BABY. >> YOU CAN SAY THAT.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> I'M HANGING ON.
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>> HANGING ON. >> GOOD GIRL.
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>> I'M MARRIED TO JUDE ALFRED,
AND WE HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR
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ALMOST 18 YEARS, AND WE HAVE TWO
CHILDREN, JUSTIN AND JULIEANNA.
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AND WE LIVE IN UP STATE NEW
YORK, WESTTOWN, AND WE'RE SO
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EXCITED TO BE HERE WITH YOU.
>> WHENEVER SHE TELLS HOW LONG
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SHE HAS BEEN MARRIED.
PEOPLE SAY BUT SHE IS THE
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YOUNGEST. AND WE
SAY IT IS BIBLICAL.
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>> YOU ARE ALL BLESSED.
YOU DON'T LOOK OLD NOW HAVE BE
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18. >> OH, BLESS YOUR HEART.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >>
HOW AM I DOING SO FAR?
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>> YOU ARE DOING
GREAT. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> KEEP IT COMING. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> SO WE WANT TO GET INTO
WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN
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DOING, BUT WE FIRST HAVE A SONG,
SO LET'S DO SOME MUSIC FIRST.
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>> OKAY. >> AND
THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME
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BACK AND TALK TO YOU. >>
OH, GOOD, WE HAVE THE JIM
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BRADY TRIO, DOING AN
AGELESS SONG, "THE LOVE OF GOD."
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>> THEY ARE WONDERFUL. >> YES.
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¤
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¤ THE LOVE OF GOD IS GREATER FAR
THAN [ INAUDIBLE ] COULD EVER
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TELL ¤ ¤ IT GOES
BEYOND THE HIGHEST
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STAR AND REACHES
TO THE LOWEST FAIR ¤
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¤ GOD GAVE HIS
SON TO [ INAUDIBLE ] ¤
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¤ EVERY TIME HE
RECONCILED AND PARD
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PARDONED FROM HIS SIN
¤ ¤ THE OCEAN FILLED ¤
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¤ AND THE SKIES
ALL PARCHMENT MADE ¤
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¤ AND EVERY STALK
ON EARTH OF WILL ¤
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¤ AND EVERY MAN ¤ ¤
THE LOVE OF GOD ABOVE COULD
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DRAIN THE OCEAN DRY ¤ ¤
TO STRETCH FROM SKY TO SKY ¤
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¤ OH, THE LOVE OF GOD
¤ ¤ HOW RICH AND PURE ¤
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¤ HOW STRONG ¤ ¤
LOVE'S FAITH AND ANGELS SORE ¤
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¤ IT SHALL
FOREVER MORE BE GOOD ¤
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¤ HOW WONDERFUL, HOW MARVELOUS
¤ ¤ HIS PRECIOUS LOVE ¤
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¤ THE PRECIOUS LOVE OF GOD ¤
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>> AMEN. ISN'T THAT BEAUTIFUL?
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>> GORGEOUS. I LOVE THEM.
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I LOVE THEIR
MUSIC. >> ABSOLUTELY.
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AND THAT'S JIM AND MELISSA
BRADY, AND NOW TIM PARTNERS
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FULL-TIME WITH 3ABN, TIM IS OUR
NEW GENERAL MANAGER OF OUR NEW
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PRAISE HIM MUSIC CHANNEL.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A 24/7
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GOSPEL MUSIC CHANNEL. I'M
SURE THE HOLMES SISTERS WILL
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BE ON THERE TOO. >>
AND THE ARRANGEMENT -- THAT
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IS LARRY GOF WHO IS
NOW RESTING IN JESUS.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH,
LADIES FOR WHAT YOU DO.
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>> YES. SO LET'S
GET BACK TO OUR HOLMES
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SISTERS HERE. AND
LET'S HEAR ABOUT YOUR
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JOURNEY. BECAUSE YOU HAVE HAD AN
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INTERESTING LIFE. I
KNOW YOU HAVE A SLOGAN.
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>> WE WENT FROM
THE HOOD TO THE WOOD.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >>
LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT.
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OKAY. SO KIMBERLY IS THE OLDEST,
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RIGHT? >> YES, I AM.
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>> LET'S START
WITH YOU KIMBERLY.
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LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW
YOU GUYS WERE RAISED.
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>> WOW. >> IN A CHRISTIAN HOME.
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>> WE WERE RAISED
IN A CHRISTIAN HOME.
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VERY, VERY CHRIST CENTERED.
WE HAD WORSHIP EVERY MORNING AND
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EVERY EVENING. POPPY
WORKED NIGHTS AND WE WOULD
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CONTINUE THE PROCESS WITH MOTHER
IN THE MORNING, AND THEN WITH
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POPPY IN THIS EVENING AND THEN
HE WOULD GO TO SLEEP AND GET UP
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FOR WORK. IT WAS A
VERY LOVING AND WARM
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ATMOSPHERE. THE
GOAL OF MY PARENTS, THEIR
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DREAMS WAS TO
HAVE HEAVEN ON EARTH.
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ONE DAY -- WELL, YOU
CAN TELL HOW THEY MET.
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BUT BASICALLY AFTER THEY MET,
AFTER THEY GOT MARRIED TO READ
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ALL OF THE COUNSELS AND TO READ
THE WORD OF GOD AND TO PATTERN
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OUR LIVES BY THAT.
I ENJOYED GROWING UP.
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I HAVE SUCH -- I HAVE
SO MANY HAPPY MEMORIES.
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WE GREW UP AT THE CITY
TABERNACLE CHURCH IN HARLEM,
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NEW YORK. >> WHERE DID YOU LIVE?
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>> IN THE BRONX. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> IN THE
PROJECTS. >> IN THE PROJECTS.
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>> WOW. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> SO YOU WERE -- YOU
WERE REALLY LIVING IN THE HOOD.
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>> YEAH WE WERE. >>
DID YOU HAVE A SENSE
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OF -- WELL, WE'RE
LIVING IN THE HOOD SO TO SPEAK?
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>> NO. >> WE DIDN'T REALIZE IT.
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WE DIDN'T.
BECAUSE -- THE WAY -- THE
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ATMOSPHERE LIKE KIM SAID.
WE ALWAYS TEASE KIM BECAUSE OUT
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OF ALL THREE OF US SHE IS
VERY PRIM AND PROPER, AND SHE IS
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LIKE, WE LIVED
WHERE? [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> MY PARENTS SAID
YOU -- YOUR FATHER --
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>> YOU ARE A
PRINCESS. >> YOU ARE A PRINCESS.
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>> AND WE'RE
ROYALTY. >> AND WE'RE ROYALTY.
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AND THE BIBLE SAYS THAT.
YOU MUST WALK A CERTAIN WAY AND
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LIVE A CERTAIN WAY.
BECAUSE WE'RE HEIRS TO THE
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KINGDOM. AND WE
DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE
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RAISED BY THAT CONCEPT. AND
GROWING UP OUR NEIGHBORS AND
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FRIENDS HAD A VERY HIGH
RESPECT FOR OUR PARENTS.
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WHEN THEY WERE
SMOKING A CIGARETTE --
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>> THEY WOULD PUT THEIR HAND
OVER THE CIGARETTE -- HELLO,
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SIR, HELLO REVEREND. >>
THEY CALLED HIM REVEREND
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BECAUSE HE ALWAYS HAD A
BIBLE. >> HE WAS A LIGHT IN THE
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COMMUNITY. >> ISN'T
IT AMAZING YOU CAN LIVE
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IN A CERTAIN PLACE
AND NOT BE OF THAT.
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>> YEAH. >> AND
ACTUALLY SHOW A DIFFERENT
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SIDE OF LIFE, EVEN THOUGH
YOU ARE IN THE MIDST OF A DARK
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PLACE, YOU ARE
THAT LIGHT ON THE HILL.
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>> YEAH. AND OUR
PARENTS ALWAYS HAD A
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DREAM TO RISE
-- JUST FOR BETTER.
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AND THE COUNSEL SAYS TO TRY TO
GET OUT OF THE CITY AND TO LIVE
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IN THE COUNTRY, SO THAT WAS THE
GOAL -- I MEAN OBVIOUSLY HEAVEN
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IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL, SO A LOT
OF TIMES THEY WOULD TAKE US OUT.
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WE WEREN'T
ALLOWED TO PLAY OUTSIDE.
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WE WOULD LOOK OUT THE WINDOWS
WHEN WE HAD A CHANCE, BECAUSE
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ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW HOW THE BIBLE
SAYS THE IDLE HAND IS THE DEVIL,
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SO MYMOM KEPT US BUSY.
OH, YOU ARE SITTING DOWN?
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GO READ A BOOK. >>
PRACTICE YOUR MUSIC.
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>> OH, YEAH. AND
THEY WOULD ALWAYS SEE US
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GOING TO SCHOOL,
AND I PLAY THE VIOLIN --
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>> AND I PLAY THE FLUTE.
>> WE WERE ALWAYS WALKING OUT
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WITH AN INSTRUMENT OR COMING IN
WITH A BIBLE, SO WE WERE ALWAYS
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BUSY. >> AND WE
STARTED SINGING VERY
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YOUNG. >> WITH
SPOONS AND KNIVES.
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¤ WE'RE ON OUR WAY TO HEAVEN
¤ >> SINGLE A LITTLE SONG.
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¤ YEAH, WE'RE ON
OUR WAY TO HEAVEN ¤
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¤ THE LETTERS ON
THE ENGINE ARE JESUS ¤
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> WE
CAME UP WITH THESE SONGS,
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YOU KNOW. AND WE
WOULD SING IN SABBATH
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SCHOOL. I HAVE A
PICTURE OF US STANDING
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IN SABBATH SCHOOL, AND ONE
DAY THEY ASKED US TO SING FOR I
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THINK CHILDREN'S DAY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE A NAME.
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WE SANG AND WORSHIPPED
EVERY DAY, WE WERE SISTERS.
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AND IT WAS A GENTLEMAN BY
THE NAME OF RODNEY MILLS, AND HE
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SAID THE HOLMES
SISTERS. >> OKAY.
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>> AND THAT WAS IT. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> AND WE SING FOR PRAYER
MEETINGS AND SABBATH SCHOOL.
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>> ANY BROTHERS? >> NO BROTHERS.
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>> PEOPLE ALWAYS
ASK, DO YOUR PARENTS SING?
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MY MOTHER HAD AN
EXCELLENT EAR FOR MUSIC.
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SHE WOULD LISTEN AND SAY, STOP,
PLAY THAT AGAIN, AND YOU WOULD
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PLAY IT SEVEN
TIMES -- [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> SHE WAS IN THE KITCHEN -- BUT
MOTHER HAD AN EXCELLENT EAR, SO
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BETWEEN SINGING AND PLAYING
-- >> ESPECIALLY AT 5:00 IN THE
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MORNING. >> YEAH, A 5:00 A.M.
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>> WE WERE UP EARLY. AND
CAN YOU IMAGINE LIVING IN
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THE PROJECTS PLAYING
INSTRUMENTS, THE PIANO,
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SOMETIMES YOU WOULD HEAR
BANG BANG BANG, CAN YOU QUIET IT
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-DOWN. [ LAUGHTER ] >> SO
AT WHAT POINT DID YOU MOVE
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FROM THE HOOD TO THE
WOOD? AND TELL US ABOUT THAT.
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>> WE HAVE TO
SHARE POPPY'S DREAM.
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POPPY AND MORT ALWAYS
SAID -- THEY HAD A VISION AND
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THEY DARED TO
DREAM. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> WAIT. WAIT.
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WAIT. SAY THAT AGAIN.
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THEY DARED TO
DREAM. >> ALL RIGHT.
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>> AND POPPY AND MOTHER ALWAYS
SAID THIS IS NOT OUR HOME, ONE
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DAY WE'RE GOING TO HEAVEN,
AND ONE DAY WE WILL LIVE IN THE
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COUNTRY. THEY SPOKE
-- THE SAME WAY THAT
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GOD SAID THERE IS
LIGHT -- >> THINK IT.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. IT
WAS CREATION -- CREATION
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BEGAN WITH
SPEAKING OF EXISTENCE.
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SO POPPY AND MOTHER SPOKE
IT INTO EXISTENCE, AND THEY HAD
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FAITH BEYOND MEASURE, AND THEY
SAID ONE DAY WE WILL LIVE IN THE
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COUNTRY. OKAY?
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IN A BIG HOUSE,
ON A LOT OF LAND.
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NOW GROWING UP, HEARING
YOUR PARENTS SAY THAT AND NOT --
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>> OKAY. SURE.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> YOU
SAY THAT, I BELIEVE YOU.
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BUT WHEN IT HAPPENED,
I SAID THIS IS AMAZING.
00:17:31.11\00:17:34.08
AND WHEN IT ACTUALLY CAME TO
THE-BOTTOM LINE, AND IT WAS
RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, AND POPPY
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AND MOTHER SAID, WEL, THIS
IS HOME. BUT GUESS WHAT WE DON'T
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HAVE THE MONEY. AND I
REMINDED THEM OF WHAT THEY
00:17:45.79\00:17:48.26
TAUGHT US. POPPY AND
MOTHER YOU SAID GOD IS
00:17:48.26\00:17:52.07
ABLE TO DO EXPEDIENTLY
AND ABUNDANTLY ABOVE ALL.
00:17:52.07\00:17:57.51
SO IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET
TOGETHER AND GET ON OUR KNEES
00:17:57.51\00:18:01.08
AND HAVE THE FAITH AND PROCLAIM,
AND CLAIM IN JESUS NAME THAT
00:18:01.08\00:18:05.25
HOUSE. AND I WANT
YOU TO KNOW WE DID
00:18:05.25\00:18:07.55
GET THAT HOUSE. >> COME ON.
00:18:07.55\00:18:09.45
>> BUT IT WAS 43 ACRES
WITHOUT THE [ INAUDIBLE ].
00:18:09.45\00:18:17.56
[ LAUGHTER ] >> OH, WAIT.
00:18:17.56\00:18:18.79
>> BUT CAN YOU
IMAGINE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:18:18.79\00:18:21.43
>> BEAUTIFUL -- >> I MEAN --
00:18:21.43\00:18:23.16
>> YOUR DAD WENT
BACK TO SCHOOL, DIDN'T HE?
00:18:23.16\00:18:25.47
>> YES, HE DID. >>
LET'S HEAR ABOUT HIM.
00:18:25.47\00:18:29.10
WHAT WAS HE DOING BEFORE THEN?
AND HOW DID HE END UP GOING BACK
00:18:29.10\00:18:32.81
TO SCHOOL? >> WELL,
THEY MET -- OKAY, OUR
00:18:32.81\00:18:36.04
MOM IS FROM GUATEMALA, CENTRAL
AMERICA, AND WHEN SHE CAME TO
00:18:36.04\00:18:42.52
THIS COUNTRY, SHE
WAS YOUNG -- LIKE 18.
00:18:42.52\00:18:45.82
AND SHE COULD NOT SPEAK ENGLISH.
MY DAD JUST CAME HOME FROM THE
00:18:45.82\00:18:52.49
MILITARY, HANDSOME, SHARP IN HIS
BOW TIE, ALWAYS WELL-DRESSED.
00:18:52.49\00:19:00.74
HAIRCUT LYING
JUST RIGHT, YOU KNOW.
00:19:00.74\00:19:02.90
AND HE SAW HER. AND
HE WAS LIKE WHO IS THIS
00:19:02.90\00:19:05.87
BEAUTIFUL BLACK
WOMAN. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:19:05.87\00:19:07.34
>> I HAVE GOT
TO GET TO KNOW HER.
00:19:07.34\00:19:09.54
AND THEY MET AT CHURCH, AND
HE SAID -- WHEN HE REALIZED SHE
00:19:09.54\00:19:15.65
COULDN'T SPEAK ENGLISH, HE SAID
IF YOU CAN TEACH ME SPANISH, I
00:19:15.65\00:19:20.26
WILL TEACH YOU
ENGLISH. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:19:20.26\00:19:21.96
>> IT WAS A LITTLE PRECURSOR.
AND THEY GOT MARRIED YOUNG, AND
00:19:21.96\00:19:28.36
LIKE KIM SAID THEY HAD A
VISION, AND HE WAS A SUPPER IN A
00:19:28.36\00:19:38.71
BUILDING. SO WE
LIVED IN A BUILDING -- I
00:19:38.71\00:19:41.81
THINK KIM WAS BORN -- AND
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY RENT.
00:19:41.81\00:19:45.25
>> RIGHT, AT THAT
TIME. >> AS A SUPER.
00:19:45.25\00:19:49.98
AND HE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO
SCHOOL TO BECOME A RESPIRATORY
00:19:49.98\00:19:57.13
THERAPIST PRACTITIONER. SO
-- YOU KNOW, CAN YOU IMAGINE.
00:19:57.13\00:19:59.79
NOW WE'RE SISTERS, AND SHE IS
THE YOUNGEST, BUT WE WERE LIKE
00:19:59.79\00:20:04.70
BOOM, BOOM, BOOM. SO
MY MOM WAS FERTILE MYRTLE.
00:20:04.70\00:20:13.58
>> AND WE HAD A
STAY AT HOME MOM.
00:20:13.58\00:20:17.18
>> THREE YOUNG BABIES, ONE
ON THE HIP, ONE -- YOU KNOW.
00:20:17.18\00:20:20.28
>> YEAH. >> SO OUR
DAD, HE, YOU KNOW, WAS
00:20:20.28\00:20:24.45
IN SCHOOL, COME HOME, WE WOULD
GO TO GUATEMALA IN THE SUMMERS
00:20:24.45\00:20:28.99
AND WHEN HE FINISHED HE BECAME A
RESPIRATORY THERAPIST PRACTICER,
00:20:28.99\00:20:36.50
AND HE WORKED AT NYU MEDICAL
CENTER FOR MANY YEARS, AND
00:20:36.50\00:20:44.64
THAT'S WHAT HE DID. HE
WAS AN ELDER IN THE CHURCH.
00:20:44.64\00:20:49.41
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> THAT'S WHY WE --
00:20:49.41\00:20:53.95
>> WE -- >> WE
WERE IN -- [OVERLAPPING
00:20:53.95\00:20:58.85
SPEAKERS] >> KNOCKING ON DOORS.
00:20:58.85\00:21:00.72
>> PRAISE THE
LORD. >> GIVING TRACKS.
00:21:00.72\00:21:05.76
>> WE WERE IN THAT GATHERING
WITH THE CANS AFTER SCHOOL.
00:21:05.76\00:21:10.03
SO IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT
MINISTRY AND SOUL WINNING.
00:21:10.03\00:21:14.27
FOOD WAS A MINISTRY.
I REMEMBER AS FAR BACK
00:21:14.27\00:21:18.24
AS -- THIS IS WHEN WE WERE SIX
AND SEVEN, AND MY MOM BROUGHT
00:21:18.24\00:21:22.78
HER DAD OVER FROM GUATEMALA, AND
HE WAS AN AMPUTEE, AND HE HAD
00:21:22.78\00:21:29.88
ONE LEG, AND HE WAS DIABETIC, SO
HE STARTED TO GET GANG GREEN IN
00:21:29.88\00:21:38.96
HIS TOE, AND THE DOCTOR TOLD
HIM, I WILL DIE -- AND MY MOM
00:21:38.96\00:21:47.97
TOOK HIM AND FED HIM RIGHT AND
PUT ON THE CHARCOAL, TOOK HIM
00:21:47.97\00:21:54.71
BACK IN SIX MONTHS
WITH A RESTORED TOE.
00:21:54.71\00:21:57.71
AND THEY WERE
LIKE WHAT HAPPENED?
00:21:57.71\00:22:00.22
>> YEAH, SHE HAS ALWAYS
BEEN INTO NATURAL REMEDIES.
00:22:00.22\00:22:04.82
>> MOMMY AND POPPY BEFORE
THEY WERE MARRIED THEY WERE NOT
00:22:04.82\00:22:10.09
VEGAN. AND THEY
EMBRACED EVERYTHING.
00:22:10.09\00:22:12.79
AND THEY SAID WHATEVER GOD SAYS
WE WILL DO, AND IF THAT MEANS
00:22:12.79\00:22:17.10
EATING DIFFERENTLY AND
HEALTHY, WE WILL DO THAT.
00:22:17.10\00:22:20.07
SO THAT'S HOW THE MINISTRY
OF HEALTH BEGAN IN OUR HOME.
00:22:20.07\00:22:24.21
>> YES. >> AND IT CONTINUED.
00:22:24.21\00:22:28.31
WE GREW UP VEGETARIAN, AND
ONE DAY -- PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
00:22:28.31\00:22:32.68
THIS -- WE GREW UP
IN AN ADVENTIST HOME.
00:22:32.68\00:22:40.49
MESSAGES -- [ LAUGHTER ]
00:22:40.49\00:22:41.76
>> EVERY CHAPTER IN
THE BIBLE. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:22:41.76\00:22:44.79
>> 5:00 IN THE
MORNING. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:22:44.79\00:22:50.37
[ LAUGHTER ] >>
AND FROM THERE, WE JUST
00:22:50.37\00:22:54.14
EVOLVED IN TERMS OF OUR HEALTH
MINISTRY, MOTHER AND POPPY SAID
00:22:54.14\00:22:58.91
WE'RE GOING TO BE -- ONE
DAY WE WILL BECOME VEGAN.
00:22:58.91\00:23:04.38
AND THEY SAID ONE DAY WE WILL
NOT WANT TO EAT THE FOO -- OR
00:23:04.38\00:23:09.15
JUST ANY -- IN TERMS OF
DAIRY OR -- BECAUSE BEING A
00:23:09.15\00:23:13.52
VEGETARIAN -- >>
BASICALLY WE EVOLVED INTO
00:23:13.52\00:23:16.99
BEING A VEGAN. >> WE
ALWAYS SAID THAT MY MOM
00:23:16.99\00:23:20.36
AND DAD WERE
AMADE OF THEIR TIME.
00:23:20.36\00:23:23.20
BECAUSE BACK THEN, YOU HAD TO
MAKE YOUR OWN TOFU, SO WE WERE
00:23:23.20\00:23:27.67
MAKING IT WITH THE CHEESE CLOTH
AND EXPERIMENTING, SO THINGS
00:23:27.67\00:23:33.51
DIDN'T TASTE SO GOOD. OUR
OATMEAL WAS STEEL CUT, SO
IT-pWOULD TAKE LIKE THREE HOURS
00:23:33.51\00:23:44.59
TO CHEW IT. >> HOW
OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU
00:23:44.59\00:23:47.46
MOVED TO THE COUNTRY?
>> WE WERE MUCH OLDER.
00:23:47.46\00:23:50.49
>> ACTUALLY WE HAVE TO
ROLL BACK A LITTLE BIT.
00:23:50.49\00:23:53.76
THEY MOVED TO QUEENS
BEFORE GETTING TO THE COUNTRY.
00:23:53.76\00:23:59.23
>> OKAY. KEPT
GETTING FURTHER OUT.
00:23:59.23\00:24:02.07
>> WHILE WE WERE IN HIH
SCHOOL WE WENT TO THE ADVENTIST
00:24:02.07\00:24:05.87
BOARDING SCHOOL, AND THAT'S WHEN
WE CAME HOME AND THEY WERE IN
00:24:05.87\00:24:10.08
QUEENS. AND WE
WERE LIKE, OH, OKAY.
00:24:10.08\00:24:12.35
WE AT LEAST HAD SOME
GRASS IN THE BACKYARD.
00:24:12.35\00:24:16.85
[ LAUGHTER ] >> IT
WAS A TRANSITION FOR
00:24:16.85\00:24:19.72
KIMBERLY TO MOVE
UP INTO THE COUNTRY.
00:24:19.72\00:24:22.06
>> WE HAD A PLACE IN THE CITY,
BECAUSE MY DAD STILL WORKED IN
00:24:22.06\00:24:25.49
THE CITY, HE WOULD REST
SOMETIMES AND THEN WE WOULD GO
00:24:25.49\00:24:29.20
UP TO THE CITY. BUT
KIM IS LIKE, MY FRIENDS,
00:24:29.20\00:24:32.97
EVERYTHING IS IN THE CITY, BUT I
LOVED THE COUNTRY AND GARDENING
00:24:32.97\00:24:38.94
AND -- >> I DO LOVE THE COUNTRY.
00:24:38.94\00:24:41.71
WE'RE IN THE
COUNTRY NOW. >> REALLY?
00:24:41.71\00:24:45.05
>> YEAH. >> SO
WHEN DID YOU START
00:24:45.05\00:24:47.58
COOKING?
BECAUSE THAT'S -- I MEAN
00:24:47.58\00:24:49.08
THAT'S -- OUR
VIEWERS MIGHT NOT KNOW.
00:24:49.08\00:24:52.29
YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW, BUT THE
HOLMES SISTERS ARE DOING A NEW
00:24:52.29\00:24:57.43
PROGRAM ON DARE TO DREAM, A
-COOKING PROGRAM, AND WE ARE
GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
00:24:57.43\00:25:02.93
AND YOU HAVE ALREADY
BEEN ON 3ABN COOKING.
00:25:02.93\00:25:06.47
WHERE DID YOU LEARN
TO COOK LIKE YOU DO?
00:25:06.47\00:25:09.24
>> IN THE HOOD. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:25:09.24\00:25:10.47
>> NO, FROM THE AGE OF
LIKE NINE -- ACTUALLY, WE HAVE A
00:25:10.47\00:25:14.98
LITTLE STORY. >> UH-HUH.
00:25:14.98\00:25:17.21
>> WE WENT TO AN
ELEMENTARY -- SEVENTH-DAY
00:25:17.21\00:25:23.05
ADVENTIST ELEMENTARY
SCHOOL -- >> I WENT THERE TOO.
00:25:23.05\00:25:26.72
>> SO YOU KNOW IT
WELL. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:25:26.72\00:25:31.43
>> AND PINE FORREST. >>
YOU ARE NOT ANY OLDER THAN
00:25:31.43\00:25:35.23
THEY ARE. >> YOU
KNOW WHAT, YOU ARE MAKING
00:25:35.23\00:25:39.07
POINTS. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:25:39.07\00:25:39.80
>> YOU ARE DOING GREAT.
>> BUT WE -- WHILE WE WERE AT
00:25:39.80\00:25:47.11
RT, MY MOM -- WE
WOULD GO TO LIVING SPRINGS.
00:25:47.11\00:25:52.05
IT'S LIKE UP STATE -- BECAUSE
THAT WAS HOW TO LEARN HOW TO
00:25:52.05\00:25:56.28
COOK NATURAL. YOU
LEARNED LIFESTYLE COOKING --
00:25:56.28\00:26:00.66
>> AND NATURAL REMEDIES.
>> SO WE WOULD BE IN THE CITY
00:26:00.66\00:26:04.86
ONE DAY AT SCHOOL, AND ON
THE WEEKEND, WE WOULD TAKE OUR
00:26:04.86\00:26:10.47
UNIFORMS AND HED UP TO THE
LIVING SPRINGS WELLNESS CENTER
00:26:10.47\00:26:15.50
TO LEARN HOW TO MAKE
BREAD. BECAUSE MY MOM IS TOTAL
00:26:15.50\00:26:22.54
IMMERSION. SO
WE'RE SITTING ON THE ROCK
00:26:22.54\00:26:24.71
WITH THE HOST SINGING SONGS IN
THE COUNTRY -- I DON'T WANT TO
00:26:24.71\00:26:28.15
SAY THE WILDERNESS,
IT SEEMED LIKE IT --
00:26:28.15\00:26:31.99
>> IT FELT LIKE IT. >>
IT WAS ALL GRASS, AND WE
00:26:31.99\00:26:37.13
LOVED IT. KIM WENT
CRYING AND SCREAMING,
00:26:37.13\00:26:41.13
BECAUSE SHE WAS LIKE, I
DO NOT LIKE THE COUNTRY.
00:26:41.13\00:26:44.63
>> AND WE LOVED IT.
SO WE STARTED COOKING.
00:26:44.63\00:26:49.04
WE WERE ABLE TO
WORK IN THE KITCHEN.
00:26:49.04\00:26:53.44
>> RIGHT. BUT WE
DID LEARN THE BASICS AT
00:26:53.44\00:26:56.58
HOME. >> AT HOME.
00:26:56.58\00:26:58.08
>> MOTHER WAS A GREAT COOK.
SHE MAY HAVE STARTED WITH THE
00:26:58.08\00:27:03.85
OATMEAL THAT WAS A
LITTLE RUBBERY, IT EVOLVED.
00:27:03.85\00:27:10.19
MOTHER EVOLVED
INTO THIS AMAZING COOK.
00:27:10.19\00:27:13.23
EVERYBODY WOULD WANT TO COME
OVER FOR DINNER OR JUST WANT
00:27:13.23\00:27:16.63
MOTHER TO COOK A DISH.
>> AND SHE LOVED TO HOST
00:27:16.63\00:27:20.84
PARTIES. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:27:20.84\00:27:22.30
SO SHE WOULD MAKE US GET IN
THE KITCHEN AND COOK WITH HER.
00:27:22.30\00:27:26.81
GLUTIN FROM SCRATCH, [
INAUDIBLE ] FROM SCRATCH.
00:27:26.81\00:27:29.28
>> SHE WAS UP EARLY --
>> SHE WAS AN EARLY RISER.
00:27:29.28\00:27:32.75
SO NOW WE'RE VERY PRIVILEGED TO
GO TO WAL-MART OR KROGER'S AND
00:27:32.75\00:27:39.65
BUY OUR TOFU, BUT
WE USED TO MAKE THAT.
00:27:39.65\00:27:44.33
PEOPLE WOULD LAUGH
AT YOU IN THOSE DAYS.
00:27:44.33\00:27:46.96
AND WE EMBRACED THE
HEALTH MESSAGE, BUT --
00:27:46.96\00:27:50.40
[ LAUGHTER ] >> I
MEAN, SHE WOULD TELL
00:27:50.40\00:27:52.30
US -- SHE WOULD
GIVE US A WEEK TO COOK.
00:27:52.30\00:27:55.34
THIS IS YOUR WEEK, PLAN THE
MENU, AND WE'RE GOING TO BUY
00:27:55.34\00:27:59.14
WHATEVER YOU HAVE ON THE MENU,
AND YOU ARE COOKING THIS WEEK.
00:27:59.14\00:28:02.48
>> SO WHAT KIND OF
MENUS WOULD YOU PLAN?
00:28:02.48\00:28:05.11
>> BACK THEN IT WAS LIKE
-- >> DOUBLE STUFFED POTATOES,
00:28:05.11\00:28:11.02
CABBAGE -- >> OR
OPEN-FACED PITA PIZZAS,
00:28:11.02\00:28:20.23
OATMEAL BURGERS. LENTIL PATTIES.
00:28:20.23\00:28:25.83
>> SWEET POTATO SOUFFLE.
>> BROWN RICE AND COLLARD
00:28:25.83\00:28:31.47
GREENS. >> AT WHAT AGE?
00:28:31.47\00:28:32.84
>> 7, 8, 9, LIKE
VERY EARLY WE STARTED.
00:28:32.84\00:28:36.58
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M
NOTICING -- AND I THINK THIS IS
00:28:36.58\00:28:40.95
SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE ON DARE TO
DREAM, WE REALLY TRY TO PROMOTE
00:28:40.95\00:28:44.69
AND SUPPORT THE FAMILY UNIT, AND
SHOW HOW IMPORTANT THE FATHER IS
00:28:44.69\00:28:49.69
AND -- AND GIVING VALUES, AND
WHEN I SEE IN YOUR FAMILY WAS
00:28:49.69\00:28:57.00
THAT EARLY ON YOUR PARENTS
INSTILLED IN YOU, FIRST OF ALL A
00:28:57.00\00:29:01.30
SENSE OF SPIRITUALITY. YOU
KNEW WHO GOD WAS, AND HOW TO
00:29:01.30\00:29:05.74
INTERACT WITH GOD, AND HOW TO
MAKE JESUS YOUR FRIEND, AND THEN
00:29:05.74\00:29:10.25
YOUR DAD SHOWED YO WHAT IT WAS
LIKE TO BE THE HEAD OF THE HOE
00:29:10.25\00:29:14.25
AND TO LOVE HIS
GIRLS AND HIS WIFE.
00:29:14.25\00:29:17.69
>> HE DID. >>
HEAD OF THE HOLMES.
00:29:17.69\00:29:21.26
[ LAUGHTER ] >> OH, GOOD.
00:29:21.26\00:29:23.56
GOOD. GOOD.
00:29:23.56\00:29:24.16
THAT WAS A GOOD ONE. I LIKE IT.
00:29:24.16\00:29:26.53
I LIKE IT. >> AND
THEN THEY ALSO INSTILLED
00:29:26.53\00:29:30.73
IN YOU THIS REALLY STRONG WORK
ETHIC, SO EARLY ON, YOU TOOK ON
00:29:30.73\00:29:35.00
ALL OF THESE RESPONSIBILITIES
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU WERE
00:29:35.00\00:29:39.57
TRAINED. >> THAT'S
HOW WE WERE RAISED.
00:29:39.57\00:29:41.18
>> AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I
FOUND IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:29:41.18\00:29:44.75
MOST SUCCESSFUL IN LIFE ARE
PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD A STRONG
00:29:44.75\00:29:49.28
WORK ETHIC. DON'T YOU
FIND THAT?->> ABSOLUTELY.
00:29:49.28\00:29:52.05
>> THAT'S TRUE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
00:29:52.05\00:29:53.99
NOW IN MOST FAMILIES YOU HAVE
GOT AT LEAST ONE OR TWO OF THE
00:29:53.99\00:29:58.26
KIDS AS THEY GET
OLDER, KIND OF REBELLED.
00:29:58.26\00:30:01.26
DID ANY OF YOU SAY
THIS IS NOT THE LIFE I WANT.
00:30:01.26\00:30:04.67
I'M HERE AND AS SOON AS
I GET 18, I'M OUT OF HERE?
00:30:04.67\00:30:08.90
OR DID YOU ALL JUST KIND OF
-- THIS IS THE WAY LIFE WAS.
00:30:08.90\00:30:13.58
>> WHO WOULD THAT BE? >>
NOT THAT ANYBODY IS PERFECT.
00:30:13.58\00:30:18.78
I'M JUST ASKING, LIKE YVONNE'S
KIDS WERE RAISED IN CHRISTIAN
00:30:18.78\00:30:24.42
HOMES, BUT THEY TELL ABOUT HOW
THEY USED TO SNEAK OUT IN THE
00:30:24.42\00:30:27.46
HOOD A LITTLE BIT, AND SHE
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT, AND NOW
00:30:27.46\00:30:30.99
THEY TELL HER, WE USED TO SNEAK
OUT AND GO DO THIS OR THAT.
00:30:30.99\00:30:35.30
I'M JUST ASKING, BUT IN GENERAL
IF FOLKS KEPT YOU SO BUSY, YOU
00:30:35.30\00:30:40.04
JUST DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO
THINK ABOUT ANOTHER LIFE --
00:30:40.04\00:30:42.84
>> WE WEE ALWAYS
-- WE WOULD GET HOME.
00:30:42.84\00:30:45.11
AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE
AT A YOUNG AGE, OR LIKE YOU
SAID-THE WORK ETHIC AND ALL OF
00:30:45.11\00:30:54.78
THAT.-WE WERE GOING FROM SCHOOL
WE WENT TO MUSIC SCHOOL RIGHT
AFTER SCHOOL, CHOIR, I MEAN WE
00:30:54.78\00:31:00.42
WERE ALWAYS -- WE WOULD
GET HOME -- >> TUTORING.
00:31:00.42\00:31:03.46
>> 8:00, 9:00 AT NIGHT --
>> YOU WERE TOO TIRED TO THINK
00:31:03.46\00:31:09.13
ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE. >>
WHEN DID WE EVER DO HOMEWORK?
00:31:09.13\00:31:12.93
BECAUSE WE WERE
SO BUSY ALL THE TIME.
00:31:12.93\00:31:15.70
LIKE I SAID, I REMEMBER
SOMETIMES IF WE WAS JUST GOOFING
00:31:15.70\00:31:20.78
OFF, DOING SOMETHING, BECAUSE KM
LOVES TO READ, SO SHE WAS ALWAYS
00:31:20.78\00:31:24.98
IN A BOOK, YOU KNOW? >> UH-HUH.
00:31:24.98\00:31:30.82
>> AND MY MOM WALKED BY AND SAW
THAT, OH, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO
00:31:30.82\00:31:35.82
DO -- WE WERE ALWAYS BUSY.
I OBVIOUSLY HAD MIDDLE CHILD
00:31:35.82\00:31:42.06
SYNDROME, BUT I THINK WE ALL AT
SOME POINT IN OUR LIFE SAID WHAT
00:31:42.06\00:31:48.64
DO I BELIEVE FOR OURSELVES.
WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I SAID
00:31:48.64\00:31:52.54
WAIT A MINUTE -- I WENT TO
OAKWOOD FOR A YEAR, SO YOU HAVE
00:31:52.54\00:31:56.78
TO GO TO CHURCH ON SABBATH, AND
YOU SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, I DON'T
00:31:56.78\00:32:00.18
HAVE TO GET UP AT
5:00 IN THE MORNING.
00:32:00.18\00:32:04.49
BUT YOU ARE
ALREADY STRUCTURED AND --
00:32:04.49\00:32:06.15
>> SURE. >> -- KIND OF.
00:32:06.15\00:32:08.12
BUT THT'S WHEN I THINK I
CAME TO THE GRIP, OKAY, IS THIS
00:32:08.12\00:32:12.23
WHY -- AND REALLY CAME TO
THE -- FOR MYSELF, YOU KNOW, TO
00:32:12.23\00:32:16.03
UNDERSTAND WITHOUT
HAVING MY PARENTS AROUND.
00:32:16.03\00:32:18.70
>> AT OAKWOOD. >>
YEAH, I WENT THERE FOR A
00:32:18.70\00:32:22.44
YEAR, AND THEN CAME
BACK AND WENT TO NYU.
00:32:22.44\00:32:25.61
>> BUT WE NEVER -- I MEAN WE
REBELLED -- WE DIDN'T LEAVE THE
00:32:25.61\00:32:29.84
CHURCH. >> YEAH, WE NEVER LEFT.
00:32:29.84\00:32:31.91
>> WE DIDN'T PUT
BEHIND EVERYTHING THAT WE WERE
00:32:31.91\00:32:34.95
TRAINED -- IT WAS JUST REALLY
SOMETHING THAT WE EMBRACED.
00:32:34.95\00:32:38.19
SOMETHING THAT WE LOVE AND
NOW WE'RE PASSING ON TO OUR
00:32:38.19\00:32:41.99
CHILDREN. >> AND
ANOTHER PASSION THAT KEPT
00:32:41.99\00:32:43.53
US BUSY IS SINGING. WE
WERE SINGING SINCE WE WERE
00:32:43.53\00:32:47.66
LITTLE GIRLS. WE SUNG
IN MANY PLACES, CHURCHES
00:32:47.66\00:32:50.73
ALL OVER THE WORLD. >> YEAH.
00:32:50.73\00:32:52.20
>> SO WHEN YOU HAVE A PASSION
AND MINISTRY AND AL KAING AND
00:32:52.20\00:32:55.77
YOU ARE TOLD THAT, AND YOU
BELIEVE THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE
00:32:55.77\00:32:58.64
TIME TO THINK
ABOUT OTHER THINGS.
00:32:58.64\00:33:01.01
>> BUT IT IS FUNNY, BECAUSE WE
HAVE BEEN ASKED OVER THE YEARS
00:33:01.01\00:33:06.11
TO SING SECULAR SONGS OR
-- >> LIKE WHITNEY HOUSTON --
00:33:06.11\00:33:11.25
>> OR DO BACKUPS, YOU
KNOW, IT WAS A COMPLETE ALBUM OR
00:33:11.25\00:33:16.56
COMMERCIALS, AND WE WOULD
COME TOGETHER AND PRAY, AND SAY
00:33:16.56\00:33:19.49
THAT'S NOT WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO.
00:33:19.49\00:33:22.43
WE'RE GOING TO
STAY WITH GOSPEL MUSIC.
00:33:22.43\00:33:25.50
SO THE CHALLENGES
HAVE BEEN PRESENTED --
00:33:25.50\00:33:29.10
>> RIGHT. THE TEMPTATIONS.
00:33:29.10\00:33:30.64
>> YES. YES.
00:33:30.64\00:33:32.37
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THEIR PARENTS
WENT TO THE SAME SCHOOL MY
00:33:32.37\00:33:36.81
PARENTS WENT TOO. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:33:36.81\00:33:41.72
>> OH, YOU NEED SOMETHING TO DO?
WE FINISHED OUR WORK, CAN WE GO
00:33:41.72\00:33:47.89
DOWN THE BLOCK -- OH, LET
ME GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO DO.
00:33:47.89\00:33:52.29
SO IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD BE
QUIET AND DO WHATEVER WE WERE
00:33:52.29\00:33:56.87
SUPPOSED TO DO. >> WE
WERE HAPPY AND BALANCED.
00:33:56.87\00:33:59.43
IN THE SUMMER MOTHER
AND POPPY TOOK US PLACES.
00:33:59.43\00:34:04.34
SHE TOOK US TO MUSEUMS
AND EXPLORED NEW YORK CITY.
00:34:04.34\00:34:09.21
BUT WE HAVE SUCH
WONDERFUL MEMORIES.
00:34:09.21\00:34:11.15
SO I'M THANKFUL FO
THE LIFE THAT WE HAV.
00:34:11.15\00:34:13.82
AND I'M SO THANKFUL TO POPPY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT POPPY
00:34:13.82\00:34:18.29
SAID TO US BEFORE HE DIED,
HE SAID, LISTEN, I WILL SEE YOU
00:34:18.29\00:34:22.36
AGAIN. >> UH-HUH.
00:34:22.36\00:34:23.06
>> OKAY? >> AND YOU
MUST PROMISE ME THAT
00:34:23.06\00:34:25.96
YOU WILL KEEP SINGING. >> OKAY.
00:34:25.96\00:34:28.20
>> AND POPPY DIED OF -- WELL, WE
LOST POPPY TO PANCREATIC CANCER,
00:34:28.20\00:34:34.47
AND IT WAS VERY UNEXPECTED, AND
AROUND THIS TIME WHERE HE WAS
00:34:34.47\00:34:38.54
VERY, VERY CRITICAL, WE
WERE LINED UP TO ATTEND GENERAL
00:34:38.54\00:34:43.08
CONFERENCE TO SING. WE
HAD OUR CLOTHES ON THE BED --
00:34:43.08\00:34:47.95
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
WE JUST KEPT GOING BACK
00:34:47.95\00:34:51.42
AND FORTH. SHOULD WE GO?
00:34:51.42\00:34:53.69
WHAT SHOULD WE DO. AND
WHEN HE REALIZED WHAT WAS
00:34:53.69\00:34:58.23
HAPPENING, HE SAID, GO. I
WILL HERE WHEN YOU RETURN.
00:34:58.23\00:35:01.86
PLEASE LEAVE NOW. AND
WE PACKED OUR BAGS AND GOT
00:35:01.86\00:35:06.23
ON THE PLANE AND WENT TO
GC. WE FULFILLED OUR MISSION, I
00:35:06.23\00:35:10.01
GUESS TO A DEGREE, AND WE DID
SING AT GENERAL CONFERENCE, AND
00:35:10.01\00:35:14.31
JUST STILL FEELING VERY UNEASY,
AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IMPRESSED US
00:35:14.31\00:35:19.58
STRONGLY. NOW WHEN
YOU TEACH YOUR CHILDREN
00:35:19.58\00:35:21.88
TO OBEY -- PARENTS IT'S VERY
IMPORTANT TO TEACH YOUR CHILDREN
00:35:21.88\00:35:25.89
TO OBEY FROM YOUNG. WHEN
ELLEN WHITE SAYS START FROM
00:35:25.89\00:35:31.13
THE WOMB, THAT IS
A SERIOUS CALLING.
00:35:31.13\00:35:35.06
AND I HAVE TWO BOYS, AND WHEN
I REALIZED BY THE TIME HE WAS
00:35:35.06\00:35:39.13
THREE, OKAY, THIS IS NOT CUTE
ANYMORE, I REALIZED YOU HAVE TO
00:35:39.13\00:35:43.41
TEACH YOUR CHILD TO OBEY.
BECAUSE IF THEY CAN OBEY YOUR
00:35:43.41\00:35:48.21
VOICE, THEY CAN
HEAR THE VOICE OF GOD.
00:35:48.21\00:35:50.18
AND THE VOICE OF
GOD SAID LEAVE NOW.
00:35:50.18\00:35:52.91
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> NOW
MIND YOU, WE HAD ANOTHER
00:35:52.91\00:35:57.25
ENGAGEMENT AT
GENERAL CONFERENCE.
00:35:57.25\00:36:00.32
IT HAPPENS EVER
FIVE YEARS. >> YEAH.
00:36:00.32\00:36:02.79
>> WE SPOKE, AND I SAID, I'M
FEELING THIS STRONG MESSAGE --
00:36:02.79\00:36:08.66
>> YEAH, WE GOT AN EALIER
TICKET -- WE LOOKED AT EACH
00:36:08.66\00:36:13.47
OTHER AND SAID, LET'S GO.
CHANGED IT AND WE FLEW HOME.
00:36:13.47\00:36:24.15
>> I WAS THE
SABBATH TO OUR FATHER.
00:36:24.15\00:36:39.53
>> WE DIDN'T EVEN -- YOU KNOW,
WE -- WE ALWAYS SAY THAT WE WERE
00:36:39.53\00:36:44.03
SO BUSY, BECAUSE MY MOM HAS BEEN
IN HEALTH AND HELPING PEOPLE ALL
00:36:44.03\00:36:48.27
HER LIFE, AND
TEACHING THEM ALTERNATIVES --
00:36:48.27\00:36:51.31
>> HEALTH AND
WELLNESS HAS BEEN OUR WORLD.
00:36:51.31\00:36:53.54
>> YEAH. >> SO HE'S
A SLENDER, SLIM MAN,
00:36:53.54\00:37:00.18
AND WE JUST SAW HIM JUST
LOSING WEIGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
00:37:00.18\00:37:07.22
>> IT WASN'T EVEN A MONTH --
>> YEAH, IT HAPPENED TO QUICKLY.
00:37:07.22\00:37:11.46
I THINK WE HAD
THREE DEATHS THAT YEAR.
00:37:11.46\00:37:15.40
OUR AUNT DIED IN APRIL, MY DAD
WAS THERE, AND I'M COMING FROM
00:37:15.40\00:37:20.90
MICHIGAN, AND JAN CALLED ME AND
SAID POPPY JUST LOOKED AT ME IN
00:37:20.90\00:37:26.01
WAL-MART AND SAID I'M
LOOKING FOR MY DAUGHTER, AND I
00:37:26.01\00:37:29.38
SAID -- OH, JUST TO DOUBLE BACK
A LITTLE BIT, MY DAD WAS IN THE
00:37:29.38\00:37:33.75
WAR. SO HE HAD -- AND HE WAS IN
00:37:33.75\00:37:36.95
VIETNAM, OR KOREA, AND THEY
SAID, LIKE, MAYBE 15 OR 20 YEARS
00:37:36.95\00:37:41.72
AGO, THEY FOUND OUT THAT HE ONLY
HAD TWO BETA CELLS, AND THAT'S
00:37:41.72\00:37:47.10
WHAT CONTROLS THE
INSULIN IN THE PANCREAS.
00:37:47.10\00:37:51.47
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THREE.
SO I GUESS RIGHT BEFORE OUR
00:37:51.47\00:37:55.24
EYES, WE DIDN'T
REALIZE WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
00:37:55.24\00:37:57.91
HE HAS ISSUES WITH
HIS PANCREAS AND WHAT NOT.
00:37:57.91\00:38:01.78
AND I SAID CHECK HIS SUGAR,
BECAUSE THAT MADE HIM HAVE
00:38:01.78\00:38:05.05
ISSUES WITH HIS SUGAR.
MAKE SURE IT IS NOT TOO HIGH,
00:38:05.05\00:38:08.75
TOO LOW. SHE
CHECKED IT, AND ANYHOW TO
00:38:08.75\00:38:12.79
MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT,
HE JUST STARTED GETTING WEAK.
00:38:12.79\00:38:18.53
AND THEY WENT TO
THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
00:38:18.53\00:38:21.06
AND HE HAD RETIRED TWO
YEARS PRIOR TO PASSING.
00:38:21.06\00:38:24.63
AND EVERYONE LOVED HIM THERE.
TO KNOW HIM WAS TO LOVE HIM.
00:38:24.63\00:38:28.30
SO WHEN THEY SAW HIM COMIG,
THEY WERE LIKE, JOHN -- THEY DID
00:38:28.30\00:38:33.24
EVERYTHING -- THEY WORKED HIM
UP -- THEY WERE NOT LEAVING THAT
00:38:33.24\00:38:36.41
ROOM UNTIL THEY FOUND OUT
WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH JOHN.
00:38:36.41\00:38:38.81
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
I CAME BACK, I WAS
00:38:38.81\00:38:42.82
WORKING THAT NIGHT IN THE BRONX,
AND SHE TEXTED ME AND SAID, YOU
00:38:42.82\00:38:47.29
KNOW, IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD.
THEY SAID THEY ARE SEEING A
00:38:47.29\00:38:50.79
MASS. AND I'M LIKE A MASS?
00:38:50.79\00:38:53.33
YOU KNOW? AND
SHE SAID IT IS ON HIS
00:38:53.33\00:38:57.07
PANCREAS. AND THEY
WERE LIKE YOU ARE NOT
00:38:57.07\00:38:58.90
IN PAIN, JOHN?
AND HE IS LIKE, NO.
00:38:58.90\00:39:01.67
UNTIL HE DIED TO HIS
LAST BREATH, NO PAIN.
00:39:01.67\00:39:05.37
AND ANYONE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD
KNOWS -- YOU SEE PEOPLE DIE
00:39:05.37\00:39:11.95
EVERY DAY OF CANCER, PANCREATIC
CANCER IS THE MOST PAINFUL.
00:39:11.95\00:39:16.32
SO THEY SAID IT MUST HAVE
BEEN HIS DIET, BECAUSE WHATEVER
00:39:16.32\00:39:19.55
HAPPENED WITH THE BETA CELLS AND
WHATEVER, THE MASS GROWING, AND
00:39:19.55\00:39:24.03
WE KEPT CHECKING HIS SUGAR,
IT WAS 30, AND I WAS LIKE YOU
00:39:24.03\00:39:28.26
SHOULD BE IN A DIABETIC COMA.
YOUR SUGAR IS -- UNTIL HE TOOK
00:39:28.26\00:39:35.94
HIS LAST BREATH HE WAS
TALKING, EVEN IN A WHISPER.
00:39:35.94\00:39:39.94
>> AND GIVING
COMMANDS. >> AND NEVER HAD PAIN.
00:39:39.94\00:39:43.28
>> GIVING COMMANDS. >>
MEANING HE WAS STILL TRYING
00:39:43.28\00:39:46.68
TO WIN SOULS ON HIS DEATH BED.
HE WAS CALLING OUT -- HE WAS A
00:39:46.68\00:39:54.39
BERGEN TO HIS FAMILY -- >>
HE CALLED ALL OF HIS SISTERS
00:39:54.39\00:39:58.59
AND BROTHERS, AND GAVE A SPECIAL
MESSAGE TO HIS NIECE RIGHT
00:39:58.59\00:40:04.37
BEFORE -- >> ONE HE
LOVED AND RAISED -- HE
00:40:04.37\00:40:07.17
RAISED ACTUALLY A LOT OF THEM.
HE WAS LIKE A DAD TO A LOT OF
00:40:07.17\00:40:13.44
THEM. >> TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENED
00:40:13.44\00:40:16.51
EXACTLY. HOW
POPPY RAISED UP AT THAT
00:40:16.51\00:40:19.25
POINT. >> HE WAS
SO WEAK AT THIS POINT,
00:40:19.25\00:40:21.82
AND HAD LOST SO MUCH WEIGHT.
AND HE JUST STOOD UP AND CALLED
00:40:21.82\00:40:25.09
OUT HER NAME. BUT
SHE WAS ALREADY THERE.
00:40:25.09\00:40:27.79
>> HE WAS LYING
DOWN. >> HE WAS LYING DOWN.
00:40:27.79\00:40:31.63
>> WITH OXYGEN ON
AND HE WAS VERY WEAK --
00:40:31.63\00:40:36.13
>> AND WE KNEW HE WAS GOING.
>> AND HE JUST GOT STRENGTH FROM
00:40:36.13\00:40:40.37
GOD TO SAY HER NAME. AND
SHE WAS ALREADY IMPRESSED TO
00:40:40.37\00:40:44.87
COME SEE HIM. SHE
WOULD COME TO CHURCH WITH
00:40:44.87\00:40:48.28
US. HE WAS ALWAYS
TAKING SOMEBODY TO
00:40:48.28\00:40:51.68
CHURCH. YOU GOIG
TO HIS HOUSE, YOU ARE
00:40:51.68\00:40:53.65
GOING TO CHURCH.
GROWING UP IN THE PROJECTS YOU
00:40:53.65\00:40:56.28
HAD THE GUYS THAT THOUGHT YOU
WERE CUTE, AND THEY WOULD SAY,
00:40:56.28\00:40:59.79
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TEENAGERS,
13, 14, AND WIT WERE JUST
00:40:59.79\00:41:04.89
WALKING IN. ONE GUY
CALLED HIMSELF IN TO THE
00:41:04.89\00:41:08.43
HOUSE. WE DIDN'T
HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP
00:41:08.43\00:41:10.40
OR ANYTHING. SO HE
KNOCKED ON MY DAD'S DOOR.
00:41:10.40\00:41:14.77
AND MY DAD SAID,
OH, WHAT IS YOUR NAME.
00:41:14.77\00:41:17.74
NICE TO MEET
YOU, COME ON INSIDE.
00:41:17.74\00:41:21.24
THE GUY CAME IN AND SAT
DOWN AND NEVER CAME BACK.
00:41:21.24\00:41:25.95
THAT WAS IT. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:41:25.95\00:41:29.05
>> BUT YOU KNOW -- >>
PEOPLE KNOCK ON PEOPLE'S
00:41:29.05\00:41:33.15
DOORS, I GUESS HE GOT BOLD, AND
HE IS LIKE Y'ALL ARE SCARED, BUT
00:41:33.15\00:41:38.03
I'M GOING TO THE
DOOR. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:41:38.03\00:41:39.86
>> POPPY DELIVERED A SPECIAL
MESSAGE TO HER RIGHT BEFORE HE
00:41:39.86\00:41:43.70
DIED. AND HE WAS JUST SPEAKING.
00:41:43.70\00:41:45.63
HE SAID TAKE
CARE OF YOUR MOTHER.
00:41:45.63\00:41:47.70
KEEP SINGING, AND
I WILL SEE YOU AGAIN.
00:41:47.70\00:41:51.47
AND PEOPLE ALWAYS SAY, WELL, WHY
DIDN'T HE ASK GOD TO EXTEND HIS
00:41:51.47\00:41:57.91
LIFE LIKE HIS CHIIA.
>> AND POPPY SAID I'M A
00:41:57.91\00:42:04.19
PATRIARCH JUST LIKE MOSES,
AND AT THEIR APPOINTED TIME, GOD
00:42:04.19\00:42:08.86
SAID GO TO THE MOUNTAIN, MOSES,
CLOSE YOUR EYES, AND THIS IS MY
00:42:08.86\00:42:16.43
TIME, I WILL EMBRCE IT,
AND I WILL SEE YOU AGAIN.
00:42:16.43\00:42:20.57
SO WE DIED WITH ALL
OF US AROUND HIM SINGING.
00:42:20.57\00:42:25.97
IT WAS JUST THE MOST
AMAZING EXPERIENCE TO HAVE.
00:42:25.97\00:42:28.91
IT WAS JUST BEAUTIFUL. >>
IT'S ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE,
00:42:28.91\00:42:33.05
BECAUSE THINK -- WHAT -- WHAT
DO PEOPLE DO THAT DON'T REALLY
00:42:33.05\00:42:36.72
BELIEVE IN GOD? YOU
DON'T HAVE THE HOPE OF THE
00:42:36.72\00:42:40.66
RESURRECTION? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:42:40.66\00:42:42.06
>> I MEAN HOW DO YOU GET
BY IN THIS SINFUL WORLD WHERE
00:42:42.06\00:42:46.03
SOMETHING IS FAIR, NOTHING IS
LIKE YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE, AND
00:42:46.03\00:42:51.87
YET, HE -- HE [ INAUDIBLE
] BUT HE WAS LOOKING FAR OFF.
00:42:51.87\00:42:56.50
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I'M
JUST HERE ON THIS EARTH,
00:42:56.50\00:42:59.87
BUT THAT'S MY HOME. BUT
AS I'M PASSING THROUGH, I'M
00:42:59.87\00:43:04.41
GOING TO REACH
EVERYBODY I CAN FOR JESUS.
00:43:04.41\00:43:06.35
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND INCREDIBLE.
00:43:06.35\00:43:08.85
SO WE SEE WHAT
GIVES YOU GIRLS STRENGTH.
00:43:08.85\00:43:12.22
>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND
POPPY GAVE US THAT PASSION.
00:43:12.22\00:43:16.89
HE SAID GO YE
THEREFORE AND TEACH ALL NATIONS.
00:43:16.89\00:43:19.73
THAT'S OUR MOTTO. IN
THE NAME OF THE FATHER, THE
00:43:19.73\00:43:23.53
SON AND THE HOLY
GHOST. AND WE DO NOT HAVE THE
00:43:23.53\00:43:28.34
CREDENTIALS TO BAPTIZE PEOPLE,
BUT WE HAVE THE CREDENTIALS TO
00:43:28.34\00:43:35.68
COOK, SING, AND REACH PEOPLE.
AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
00:43:35.68\00:43:41.42
>> YEAH. A LOT OF
FOLKS SAY, ADVENTISTS,
00:43:41.42\00:43:44.39
YOU ARE ALWAYS SO
WORRIED ABOUT FOOD.
00:43:44.39\00:43:47.59
WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL
ABOUT FOOD? AND I WANT TO
00:43:47.59\00:43:50.36
UNDERSTAND -- MAYBE YOU
CAN GIVE US UNDERSTANDING.
00:43:50.36\00:43:53.46
WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF
SPEND SO MUCH TIME COOKING FOOD.
00:43:53.46\00:43:56.97
I MEAN FOOD IS FOOD ISN'T
IT? AND REALLY, BECAUSE WE
00:43:56.97\00:43:59.77
HAVE -- MOST OF OUR VIEWERS ARE
NOT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, WE
00:43:59.77\00:44:05.44
FIGURE PROBABLY 95% OF OUR
VIEWERS AROUND THE WORLD ARE NOT
00:44:05.44\00:44:13.15
SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS. SO
PEOPLE WRITE AND SAY WHY DO
00:44:13.15\00:44:16.38
YOU SPEND SO MUCH
EMPHASIS ON HEALTH?
00:44:16.38\00:44:20.52
BUT WHAT WE'RE FINDING OUT SO
FAR, I'M SURE AS WE GO THROUGH
00:44:20.52\00:44:25.53
EACH OF YOUR LIVES,
YOU HAVE PROBLEMS --
00:44:25.53\00:44:27.83
>> ABSOLUTELY. >>
DOMESTIC PROBLEMS, FINANCIAL
00:44:27.83\00:44:31.13
PROBLEMS, FISCAL PROBLEMS, YOU
HAVE ALL OF THESE THINGS, BUT
00:44:31.13\00:44:34.54
YOU HAVE A
PEACE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:44:34.54\00:44:36.37
>> AND THAT PEACE LITERALLY
GOES BACK TO COMBRIERNS --
00:44:36.37\00:44:40.21
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
BECAUSE THEY INSTILLED THE
00:44:40.21\00:44:43.18
WAY HE SHOULD GO. AND
WHEN HE IS OLD AND NOT
00:44:43.18\00:44:46.68
DEPART FROM US -- IT DOESN'T
MEAN THEY MAY NOT STRAY -- BUT
00:44:46.68\00:44:54.76
THEY WILL ALWAYS COME
BACK. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:44:54.76\00:44:57.36
MY HUSBAND WASN'T ALWAYS A
PASTOR WHEN WEGOT MARRIED, BUT
00:44:57.36\00:45:01.83
HE ALWAYS HAD A BURDEN -- THREE
OF HIS UNCLES ARE PASTORS, SO
00:45:01.83\00:45:06.67
WHEN HE DECIDED TO ACCEPT THE
CALLING, AND HE LEFT, WE WERE IN
00:45:06.67\00:45:10.84
BUSINESS, AND HE WENT TO MISSION
COLLEGE OF EVANGELISM, AND WHEN
00:45:10.84\00:45:15.88
HE WENT, WE LOST IT ALL. RIGHT?
00:45:15.88\00:45:18.11
WHEN HE GOT
THERE, THINGS WERE GOOD.
00:45:18.11\00:45:20.38
MONEY WAS IN
THE BANK EVERY WEEK.
00:45:20.38\00:45:22.85
AND ONE DAY THEY CALLED HIM
UP -- HE WAS A CONTRACTOR, AND
00:45:22.85\00:45:26.65
THEY SAID IF YOU DON'T COME BACK
TOMORROW, WE WILL TERMINATE YOUR
00:45:26.65\00:45:32.46
CONTRACT. AND HE
CALLED ME, AND HE SAID
00:45:32.46\00:45:35.76
I'M ALMOST DONE, AND HE SAID,
BUT I HAVE A FAMILY, YOU AND SAR
00:45:35.76\00:45:40.80
RAY, SAMMY WASN'T BORN THERE,
AND HE SAID, I HAVE TO COME
00:45:40.80\00:45:44.37
BACK. AND I SAID
YOU CANNOT COME BACK.
00:45:44.37\00:45:47.08
BECAUSE THE
BIBLE SAYS -- >> AMEN.
00:45:47.08\00:45:49.84
>> SO IF GOD CALLED YOU,
HE IS GOING TO PROVIDE A WAY.
00:45:49.84\00:45:53.25
>> AMEN. >> YOU
KNOW, BUT THERE WAS A
00:45:53.25\00:45:55.65
PEACE THAT I HAD -- BECAUSE
HE WAS LIKE, BOOK THE TICKET
00:45:55.65\00:45:59.39
TONIGHT -- [ LAUGHTER ]
00:45:59.39\00:46:00.79
>> WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
HOW ARE WE GOING TO MAKE IT?
00:46:00.79\00:46:04.29
AND WE LOST IT
ALL. WE LOST OUR HOME.
00:46:04.29\00:46:07.96
WE LOST
EVERYTHING. WE LOST EVERYTHING.
00:46:07.96\00:46:09.86
YOU HEAR ME? >> YEAH.
00:46:09.86\00:46:11.97
>> HOW LONG AGO WAS
THIS? >> THIS WAS -- TO THIS
00:46:11.97\00:46:15.10
DATE -- THIS
WAS IN 2008. >> WOW.
00:46:15.10\00:46:20.04
>> 2008 THIS HAPPENED, AND
HE GRADUATED, AND BY THAT -- HE
00:46:20.04\00:46:25.11
GRADUATED IN NOVEMBER. BY
JANUARY WE WERE IN MINNESOTA.
00:46:25.11\00:46:28.38
HE BECAME A BIBLE
WORKER AFTER THAT.
00:46:28.38\00:46:31.59
BUT HE WAS STILL PASTOR,
AND WE HAD LOST THREE CHILDREN.
00:46:31.59\00:46:35.12
I WAS PREGNANT WITH SARAH, IN
BETWEEN, AND SO THEY CALLED US
00:46:35.12\00:46:39.23
OUT THERE TO START -- BECAUSE WE
HAD A HOME DELIVERY -- A HEALTH
00:46:39.23\00:46:43.20
FOOD STORE AND A HOME DELIVERY
SERVICE, AND HE HAD THE TRUCKS.
00:46:43.20\00:46:46.53
WE CLOSED IT
BECAUSE I GOT PREGNANT.
00:46:46.53\00:46:49.20
SO THEY CALLED US
OUT THERE TO OPEN IT.
00:46:49.20\00:46:51.54
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD OF THE
[ INAUDIBLE ] AND THE BLUE ZONE
00:46:51.54\00:46:55.21
SO WE WENT OUT TO DO
THE BLUE ZONE IN MINNESOTA.
00:46:55.21\00:46:58.15
AND WE GOT OUT THERE,
AND I BECAME PREGNANT.
00:46:58.15\00:47:02.75
AND THE LADY WHO CALLED US
OUT THERE, HER DAUGHTER WAS AN
00:47:02.75\00:47:10.73
OBSTETRICIAN. WHEN I
WAS PREGNANT, I WAS ON
00:47:10.73\00:47:15.83
BEDREST, AND ALL A
SUDDEN I HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
00:47:15.83\00:47:19.63
SO HE FASTED AND PRAYED, AND
WHEN HE CAME BACK, HE SAID I AM
00:47:19.63\00:47:24.07
GOING TO ANDREWS. YOU ARE WHAT?
00:47:24.07\00:47:26.31
THE BABY IS NOT
DUE UNTIL NOVEMBER.
00:47:26.31\00:47:29.21
HE SAID GOD TOLD ME TO GO.
AND I SAID WELL, I GUESS WE GOT
00:47:29.21\00:47:33.92
TO GO. AND WE WENT TO ANDREWS BY
00:47:33.92\00:47:36.18
FAITH -- >> ANDREWS UNIVERSITY.
00:47:36.18\00:47:38.72
>> WE CALLED OUR FAMILY TO
TELL THEM, AND HER HUSBAND IS A
00:47:38.72\00:47:44.53
GRADUATE. AND HE SAID ANDREW?
00:47:44.53\00:47:47.00
Y'ALL DON'T HAVE NO
MONEY TO GO TO ANDREW.
00:47:47.00\00:47:50.67
ANDREW IS EXPENSIVE. AND
WE SAID GOD WILL PROVIDE THE
00:47:50.67\00:47:56.47
WAY. AND HE DID.
00:47:56.47\00:47:57.14
WE LIVED IN A RENTED HOME.
AND THEN I HAD THE BABY, AND I
00:47:57.14\00:48:02.98
BECAME THE CATERING DIRECTOR
AT ANDREWS UNIVERSITY, AND WHEN
00:48:02.98\00:48:12.79
THAT ENDED I WENT BACK -- I HAD
ALREADY GRADUATED FROM SCHOOL,
00:48:12.79\00:48:17.26
AND I ALWAYS HAD
AN INTEREST IN HEALTH.
00:48:17.26\00:48:19.49
I WENT BACK GOT INTO AN
ACCELERATED PROGRAM, THEY ONLY
00:48:19.49\00:48:25.13
ACCEPTED TEN PEOPLE OUT OF
THOUSANDS OF APPLICANTS, AND I
00:48:25.13\00:48:28.07
SAID SO WE HAVE A PLAN.
BY THE TIME YOU'RE DONE, I'M
00:48:28.07\00:48:32.31
DONE, WE'RE DONE,
AND GOD -- I GOT IN.
00:48:32.31\00:48:36.44
IT WAS GOD. >> FOR
OUR VIEWERS WOULD YOU
00:48:36.44\00:48:42.32
CALL THAT COINCIDENCE,
ACCIDENT, OR DIVINE PROVIDENCE.
00:48:42.32\00:48:49.56
THEY ARE SAYING THAT BASICALLY
FOLK WATCH ON TV, AND THEY'LL
00:48:49.56\00:48:54.46
SAY YOU GUYS DON'T UNDERSTAND,
YOU SEE YOU SITTING UP THERE IN
00:48:54.46\00:49:01.30
YOUR PRETTY DRESSES, AND THE MEN
IN THEIR NICE SUITS, AND THEY
00:49:01.30\00:49:05.74
WILL SAY YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YOU DON'T GO THROUGH THESE
00:49:05.74\00:49:09.68
PROBLEMS. BUT WHAT
THEY ARE SAYING TO YOU
00:49:09.68\00:49:11.38
AND SHARING, IS YOUR FAITH
DOESN'T BEGIN UNTIL YOUR SIGHT
00:49:11.38\00:49:15.68
ENDS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:49:15.68\00:49:17.05
>> SO PEOPLE SAY WELL I DON'T
KNOW A CHURCH WANTS TO HAVE AN
00:49:17.05\00:49:24.13
EVANGELISTIC SERIES, AND THEY
SAY HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE IN
00:49:24.13\00:49:28.06
THE BANK? WE HAVE 5,000.
00:49:28.06\00:49:30.83
WHY DON'T WE
WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE 10.
00:49:30.83\00:49:33.54
SO IS THAT FAIH
OR YOUR OWN PLANNING.
00:49:33.54\00:49:36.50
SO IN YOUR SITUATION, YOU SAY,
YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE NOT GOIG
00:49:36.50\00:49:40.34
TO COME BACK. IF WE
LOSE THE CONTRACTS, WE
00:49:40.34\00:49:43.35
LOSE THE CONTRACTS,
WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRUST GOD.
00:49:43.35\00:49:47.15
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
AND NOW ANDREWS UNIVERSITY,
00:49:47.15\00:49:52.75
WHICH IS EXPENSIVE, YOU
NOW, MOST UNIVERSITIES ARE --
00:49:52.75\00:49:55.82
>> AND THEN WHEN I BECAME THE
CATERING DIRECTOR, HIS TUITION
00:49:55.82\00:50:02.33
WAS 50% OFF. >> BLESS GOD.
00:50:02.33\00:50:04.40
>> AND YOU WERE
CHOSEN OUT OF HOW MANY --
00:50:04.40\00:50:07.14
>> OH, THEN I WAS ACCEPTED AND
IT WAS THE ONLY PLACE -- I SAID
00:50:07.14\00:50:10.87
LORD, PLEASE, YOU HAVE GOT TO DO
THIS, BECAUSE USUALLY PEOPLE
OUT-OF THOUSANDS OF APPLICANTS,
00:50:10.87\00:50:17.05
USUALLY PEOPLE APPLY DIFFERENT
SCHOOLS, AND I WAS LIKE I GOT TO
00:50:17.05\00:50:21.48
GO HERE, BECAUSE
IT IS THE CLOSEST.
00:50:21.48\00:50:23.49
SO WE JUST PRAYED AND
LEFT IT IN THE HANDS OF GOD.
00:50:23.49\00:50:27.42
YOU CAN'T LOSE
WHEN YOU OBEY GOD.
00:50:27.42\00:50:31.96
WHEN GOD TELLS YOU TO COME OUT
FROM SOMETHING, AND TO LEAVE, HE
00:50:31.96\00:50:36.40
IS NOT GOING TO SAY
NOW YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN.
00:50:36.40\00:50:39.03
GOOD LUCK. >> HE
NEVER LEAVES YOU HOPELESS
00:50:39.03\00:50:41.84
OR HELPLESS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:50:41.84\00:50:44.64
HOPELESS OR
HELPLESS, THAT'S RIGHT.
00:50:44.64\00:50:46.88
>> SO IN YOUR SITUATION, NOW ALL
OF A SUDDEN YOU ARE ACCEPTED,
00:50:46.88\00:50:50.35
YOU LOOK BACK OVER THE YEARS,
YOU DON'T REGRET WHAT YOU DID.
00:50:50.35\00:50:55.55
>> NO. WE SEE -- GOD HAS FULLY
00:50:55.55\00:50:59.19
RESTORED. ACTUALLY
WE SAY E HAVE THREE
00:50:59.19\00:51:02.12
CHILDREN, BECAUSE I GAVE BIRTH
TO ORVILLE, JR. FRPRIOR TO THAT.
00:51:02.12\00:51:09.36
AND TWO WEEK'S BEFORE KIMBERLY'S
WEDDING, I GAVE BIRTH, AND OUR
00:51:09.36\00:51:14.64
SON PASSED AWAY IN OUR ARMS.
AND MY HUSBAND ALMOST WALKED
00:51:14.64\00:51:21.38
AWAY, BECAUSE WE
PLEADED DO NOT LET MY SON DIE.
00:51:21.38\00:51:27.02
BUT I HAD A PEACE, AND I LOOKED
UP IN MY DAD'S EYE, AND I SAID
00:51:27.02\00:51:37.36
POPPY WILL I EVER SEE HIM AGAI?
AND HE SAID IF YOU LIVE PROPER,
00:51:37.36\00:51:44.07
EVERYONE WAS THERE.
AND MY HUSBAND WALKED OUT.
00:51:44.07\00:51:46.47
HE WASN'T A PASTOR THEN.
SO YOU SEE THE ENEMY COME IN,
00:51:46.47\00:51:51.87
BUT THEN GOD RAISES
UP -- >> HALLELUJAH.
00:51:51.87\00:51:54.84
>> SO HE COULDN'T
PRAY THEN. BUT IT'S OKAY.
00:51:54.84\00:51:57.95
IT'S -- IT'S
REAL. EMOTIONS ARE REAL.
00:51:57.95\00:52:00.38
HE IS LIKE, GOD, WAIT
A MINUTE. LIKE I PRAYED.
00:52:00.38\00:52:03.69
CAN'T YOU SEE THAT
-- YOU KNOW -- SORRY --
00:52:03.69\00:52:06.82
>> THAT'S ALL RIGHT. >>
BUT THEN I LEFT AND I WASN'T
00:52:06.82\00:52:11.99
THINKING ABOUT GETTING PREGNANT,
I HAVE A SON NOW, SAMUEL.
00:52:11.99\00:52:17.97
GOD HAS FULLIRY STORED.
AND WE'RE BACK IN NEW YORK.
00:52:17.97\00:52:21.37
AND WE JUST PURCHASED A HOME IN
THE COUNTRY, ABLE TO DO A GARDEN
00:52:21.37\00:52:27.84
AGAIN. >> THEY PURCHASED A HOME.
00:52:27.84\00:52:30.21
[ LAUGHTER ] >> MOVING ON.
00:52:30.21\00:52:31.05
MOVING ON. BUT I'M
JUST SAYING HOW GOD
00:52:31.05\00:52:35.25
RESTORES. WHEN WE
LEFT WE LOST EVERYTHING.
00:52:35.25\00:52:37.55
BUT WHEN YOU TRUST IN
GOD AND LEAN NOT TO YOUR
00:52:37.55\00:52:40.86
UNDERSTANDING -- LIKE YOU
SAID. IF YOU DON'T SEE IT IN THE
00:52:40.86\00:52:46.73
BANK -- LET'S WAIT --
BUY THE TICKET, COME BACK.
00:52:46.73\00:52:49.53
I LIKE SEEING
THAT MONEY IN THE BANK.
00:52:49.53\00:52:51.97
IT WAS A WEEKLY PAYCHECK AND
IT WASN'T -- IT WASN'T A SNEEZE.
00:52:51.97\00:52:57.61
>> AND THE DOUBLE THROW STARTS.
BECAUSE I REMEMBER FOR ABOUT
00:52:57.61\00:53:02.68
SIXTH MONTHS WHEN I COULDN'T
SING BECAUSE I HAD BELLS PALSY.
00:53:02.68\00:53:08.75
I WOKE UP ON MORNING
AND MY FACE WAS PARALYZED.
00:53:08.75\00:53:12.65
MY HUSBAND RUSHED ME TO THE
HOSPITAL, AND THEY TOOK ALL OF
00:53:12.65\00:53:15.66
THESE TESTS, AND
THEY SAID I HAD LYME.
00:53:15.66\00:53:19.23
EVENTUALLY THE TESTS
CAME BACK, I HAD LYME DISEASE.
00:53:19.23\00:53:22.80
WITH WERE IN THE COUNTRY, AND WE
WERE LIKE, WE'RE SO THANKFUL TO
00:53:22.80\00:53:27.80
GOD. SO LYME DISEASE, AND I WAS
00:53:27.80\00:53:30.54
PARALYZED FOR ABOUT
SIX MONTHS. LOCK JAW.
00:53:30.54\00:53:34.94
COULDN'T SPEAK. COULDN'T SING.
00:53:34.94\00:53:36.61
WE HAD AN ENGAGEMENT
-- >> WE WERE LINED UP.
00:53:36.61\00:53:39.98
>> WE HAD AN ALBUM
-- WE WERE LINED UP.
00:53:39.98\00:53:42.98
>> SHUT DOWN. >>
AND MY MOUTH WAS LOCKED
00:53:42.98\00:53:47.06
LITERALLY, WOULD NOT
SING. >> I REMEMBER THAT.
00:53:47.06\00:53:52.43
>> TAISHA HOLMES-BULGIN
MOVED INTO MY HOUSE.
00:53:52.43\00:53:56.60
SHE WAS TAKING CARE OF THE KIDS.
I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME TESTIMONY.
00:53:56.60\00:54:02.47
MY FACE IS STILL
PARALYZED SLIGHTLY.
00:54:02.47\00:54:05.27
BUT I SING, GIVE
GLORY TO GOD THROUGH IT ALL.
00:54:05.27\00:54:08.61
>> LEARN TO TRUST
IN JESUS. >> AMEN.
00:54:08.61\00:54:11.15
>> I SAID THEN, I AM
NEVER LEAVING MY HOUSE, I MEAN
00:54:11.15\00:54:15.02
TWISTED -- AND I SAID
WHAT -- BUT GOD IS THE HEALER.
00:54:15.02\00:54:18.85
>> YES, HE IS. >> I
SAID DEVIL YOU WILL NOT
00:54:18.85\00:54:22.46
SHUT OUR MINISTRY DOWN. WE
HAVE TO JUST PUSH THROUGH AND
00:54:22.46\00:54:26.49
LET THE WORD OF GOD GO FORTH.
>> THE THEME SONG THROUGH IT
00:54:26.49\00:54:33.44
ALL. >> I WAS THINKING THAT TOO.
00:54:33.44\00:54:36.17
WOULD YOU SING A COUPLE OF BARS.
¤ I'VE LEARNED TO TRUST IN GOD
00:54:36.17\00:54:41.94
THROUGH IT ALL ¤ >> YES.
00:54:41.94\00:54:45.45
¤ THROUGH IT ALL ¤ ¤ I
HAVE LEARNED TO DEPEND UPON
00:54:45.45\00:54:53.36
HIS WORD ¤ >> I
GOT IN SINGING BASE.
00:54:53.36\00:54:58.16
[ LAUGHTER ] >> THAT WAS FUN.
00:54:58.16\00:55:04.17
>> HE'S GETTING IN ON THE GROUP.
>> HOLMES SISTERS AND GUEST.
00:55:04.17\00:55:12.57
I'LL BE THE BACKUP
SINGER. >> DANNY SHELTON.
00:55:12.57\00:55:19.71
[ LAUGHTER ] >> IT'S
AMAZING, BECAUSE I SING
00:55:19.71\00:55:22.05
EVERY DAY, AND I MUST SAY
IT IS SO SWEET TO TRUST IN HIM.
00:55:22.05\00:55:29.16
JUST TO TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD.
WHEN I SING, EVERY TIME I OPEN
00:55:29.16\00:55:33.19
MY MOUTH, IT'S AN
ACT OF FAITH FOR ME.
00:55:33.19\00:55:37.10
SO WE WERE JUST SITTING HERE,
SPEAKING TO THE AUDIENCE AND
00:55:37.10\00:55:43.20
YVONNE SAID -- YVONNE SPOKE, AND
I HAD TO WHISPER TO TAISHA, I
00:55:43.20\00:55:54.28
SAID I CAN'T HEAR HER.
WE HAD TO TURN UP THE MIC.
00:55:54.28\00:56:02.26
>> AD MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNO
THAT WHEN I SING, I CAN'T HEAR.
00:56:02.26\00:56:08.56
I'M 100% DEAF IN MY LEFT EAR.
I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT BEFORE,
00:56:08.56\00:56:13.54
SO 3ABN THEY KNOW
NOW. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:56:13.54\00:56:17.07
>> SO MANY TIMES IF YOU DON'T DO
A SILENT SOUND CHECK, YOU DON'T
00:56:17.07\00:56:23.55
KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO FACE.
SO WHEN WE GO UP TO SING, JUST
00:56:23.55\00:56:27.15
LIKE MANY OF THE STARS IN THE
WORLD, THEY CLAIM THAT GOD, AND
00:56:27.15\00:56:31.65
THEY SAY THERE IS A FORCE THAT
TAKES CONTROL OF ME WHEN I SING.
00:56:31.65\00:56:35.52
OH, THERE'S A FORCE. THE
LIVING GOD, THE ALL MIGHTY
00:56:35.52\00:56:39.23
GOD TAKES CONTROL
OF ME WHEN I SING.
00:56:39.23\00:56:41.16
AND HE ALLOWS ME TO HEAR
WHAT I -NEED HEAR. >> OKAY.
00:56:41.16\00:56:44.83
>> AND HE COVERS WHATEVER NEEDS
TO BE COVERED, BUT IT'S THE
00:56:44.83\00:56:50.31
ANGELS THAT SING WITH US. >>
MAKE SURE YOU SAY YOU WEREN'T
00:56:50.31\00:56:55.01
BORN LIKE THAT. >> I
WASN'T BORN LIKE THAT.
00:56:55.01\00:56:58.28
>> WE WENT TO CALIFORNIA,
WHEN YOU CAME BACK --
00:56:58.28\00:57:01.45
>> IT WAS AFTER CHICAGO.
WE WENT TO A FRIEND'S WEDDING.
00:57:01.45\00:57:05.59
>> WE CAME BACK AND SHE
KEPT FALLING ON THE FLOOR.
00:57:05.59\00:57:14.00
VERTIGO. >> MERCY.
00:57:14.00\00:57:15.63
>> I WANT TO
EX-MORE THAT EVEN FURTHER.
00:57:15.63\00:57:23.64
>> WE WANT TO
HEAR MORE ABOUT IT.
00:57:23.64\00:57:25.84
BUT LOOK AT THE
TIME. WHAT DO WE DO NOW?
00:57:25.84\00:57:28.44
>> WELL -- >> YOU ARE THE HOST?
00:57:28.44\00:57:31.01
>> NO, YOU HAVE TO HELP ME.
>> NO, IT'S GREAT TESTIMONY.
00:57:31.01\00:57:35.65
FOLKS WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK
AND WE HAVE ANOTHER HOUR, AND
00:57:35.65\00:57:40.86
WE'RE GOING TO BE
HEARING MORE TESTIMONY.
00:57:40.86\00:57:44.09
STAY WITH US, WE'LL
BE BACK IN JUST A MOMENT.
00:57:44.09\00:57:47.30
¤
00:57:47.30\00:57:49.96