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Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), CA Murray, John Lomacang

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00:06 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
00:13 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE REMOVING PAIN ♪
00:23 ♪ LORD, LET MY WORDS ♪ ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪
00:34 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
00:43 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
01:07 >>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO ANOTHER 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
01:10 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, AS YOU DO EACH AND EVERY DAY.
01:13 I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A GREAT PROGRAM AND I HAVE A
01:17 REASON TO SAY THAT. I HAVE SOME GREAT GUESTS AND WE
01:21 HAVE ALREADY PRAYED AND ASKED FOR THE HOLY SPIRIT BLESSING ON
01:26 THIS PROGRAM TODAY. I HAVE PASTOR JOHN, AND PASTOR
01:31 CA. GLAD YOU ARE HERE TODAY.
01:33 >> GOOD TO BE HERE. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I
01:37 WOULD LIKE FOR THOSE OF YOU AT HOME MAYBE TO JOIN US IN A
01:41 PRAYER IN JUST A MOMENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE AND
01:44 PRAYERS AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT, BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU, WE WOULD BE
01:50 SITTING HERE BY OURSELVES AND TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT WE
01:53 THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT CONSIDERING THE CLOSING MOMENTS
01:57 OF EARTH'S HISTORY. AND SO WE WANT, TODAY, TO SIT
02:01 AND TALK TO YOU. WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO PRAY
02:04 WITH US. WE WANT YOU TO JOIN WITH US.
02:07 BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO DO TODAY, AND IT'S SOMETHING MAYBE
02:14 WE HAVEN'T DONE IN A WHILE. THERE ARE A LOT OF MYTHS ABOUT
02:20 CHRISTIANS, ABOUT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHRISTIANS, AND OTHER
02:24 CHRISTIANS, TOO, THERE ARE MYTHS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO SAY I WANT TO
02:28 GO TO HEAVEN, OR IF THERE IS A HEAVEN, AND ALL OF THESE THINGS.
02:34 BUT SOMEHOW SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, SEEMS LIKE WE ARE
02:37 UNIQUE, AND MAYBE WE'RE NOT CONSIDERED IN THE MAINLINE
02:43 EVANGELICAL GROUP. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS
02:46 THAT PEOPLE REALLY -- MAYBE DON'T KNOW OR UNDERSTAND, AND
02:49 THEN MAYBE THERE ARE SOME OF US WHO ARE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST
02:53 CHRISTIANS THAT MAYBE IT WOULDN'T HURT FOR US TO JUST GO
02:56 BACK OVER SOME OF THESE -- WE'LL CALL THEM TRUTH OR FICTION OR
03:02 TRUE OR FALSE. I MAY THROW OUT SOME OF THESE
03:06 QUESTIONS TO YOU GUYS. >> OKAY.
03:08 >> BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT TO DO, AND I THINK YOU GUYS DO TOO,
03:14 THAT JESUS IS COMING BACK FOR A PURIFIED BRIDE, A PURIFIED
03:22 CHURCH. AND THE DEVIL IS OUT TO DESTROY.
03:25 SO HERE WE ARE ON PLANET EARTH. WE DIDN'T ASK TO BE BORN, BUT
03:31 WE'RE HERE. THE CHANCES ARE ONE IN SEVERAL
03:35 BILLIONS THAT A PERSON EVEN MAKES IT THROUGH ALL OF THE
03:38 PERIOD TO BREATHE LIFE, IT'S AGAINST ALL ODDS, AND THEN WE'RE
03:42 HERE FOR A SHORT TIME, AND THEN ETERNITY.
03:46 BUT THERE ARE SO MANY QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
03:49 >> THA'S RIGHT. >> HOW DO I MAKE HEAVEN MY HOME?
03:54 IS THERE A HEAVEN FIRST OF ALL, BUT EVEN WITHIN THOSE OF HOUSE
03:58 WITH ARE CHRISTIANS, THERE ARE SO MANY RELIGIONS AND ONE BIBLE.
04:02 AND IT'S LIKE HOW DO WE GET -- COME UP WITH SO MANY
04:07 DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OR DOCTRINES AND SO MANY
04:12 DENOMINATIONS, RELIGIOUS GROUPS FROM ONE BIBLE, FROM THOSE, SAY,
04:18 IN THE CHRISTIAN FAITH AT LEAST. >> ALL RIGHT.
04:21 SO TODAY I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
04:24 BUT I WANT TO PRAY, AND I WOULD LIKE MAYBE CA, YOU, BECAUSE I
04:32 KNOW YOU VIEWERS, WE REALIZE THERE ARE PEOPLE TODAY THAT ARE
04:38 WATCHING BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS INSPIRED YOU TO TUNE IN NOW.
04:45 THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING THINGS IN YOUR LIFE, IT
04:49 MIGHT BE PHYSICAL, SPIRITUAL, MARITAL, IT COULD BE ALL KINDS
04:53 OF THINGS. PROBLEMS THAT ALL OF US HAVE HAD
04:57 TOO, BUT MAYBE SOME OF YOU HAVE JUST GOTTEN REALLY BAD REPORTS,
05:02 AND YOU DON'T QUITE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH IT.
05:07 BUT YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH JESUS BECAUSE HE KNOWS ALREADY, AND WE
05:11 BELIEVE THERE IS POWER IN PRAYER, SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
05:18 DO IS MAYBE CA SAY A PRAYER FOR THOSE WHO ARE FEELING ALONE
05:22 RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE NOT SURE WHY THEY ARE
05:25 EVEN HERE IN THESE CLOSING MOMENTS OF EARTH'S HISTORY.
05:29 DOES GOD HAVE A PLAN FOR MY LIFE?
05:32 DOES HE REALLY CARE? AND THERE ARE PEOPLE ALL AROUND
05:34 THE WORLD THAT ARE SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS.
05:37 AND IF THERE WAS EVER A MIXED UP TIME, I'M TELLING YOU WHEN IT
05:42 COMES TO POLITICS AND RELIGION, IT IS RIGHT NOW IN MY LIFETIME.
05:47 BUT THIS IS BY DESIGN. THE DEVIL IS OUT TO STEAL, KILL,
05:51 AND DESTROY. ALL WE WANT TO DO IS TO BE ABLE
05:55 TO HAVE A BIBLE STUDY WITH YOU, AND JOIN WITH YOU, AND IF YOU
06:00 ARE LOOKING FOR TRUTH AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR TRUTH, I BELIEVE WE
06:04 ARE GOING TO FIND IT TODAY. BIG GOD CAN'T SOLVE A PROBLEM,
06:11 NONE IS SO SMALL THAT HE DOESN'T HEAR IT.
06:14 >> AMEN. >> I'M GOING TO ASK PASTOR CA IF
06:18 YOU WILL PRAY FOR OUR VIEWERS AT HOME AND FOR OUR STUDY TODAY.
06:25 >> WE COME TO YOU WITH PRAISE ON OUR LIPS AND JOY IN OUR HEARTS.
06:33 WE'RE PRAISING YOU AND JOYFUL BECAUSE YOU ARE A GOD ABOVE ALL
06:43 GODS. YOU HAVE SHOWN YOURSELF MIGHTY
06:46 AND POWERFUL TOO MANY TIMES TO COUNT.
06:49 FATHER WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THOSE IN OUR LISTENING AND
06:54 VIEWING AUDIENCE WHO ARE UNDER THE ATTACK OF THE ENEMY.
07:00 THERE ARE THOSE OF OUR NUMBER WHO ARE UNDER THE ATTACK OF THE
07:05 ENEMY. SO HELP US LORD, EVEN IN THE
07:08 MIDST OF TRIAL TO KNOW THAT WE SERVE A GOD WHO CAN DO ANYTHING
07:13 BUT FAIL. OKAY.
07:15 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> YOU SAID I WILL NEVER LEAVE
07:18 YOU. I WILL NEVER FORSAKE YOU.
07:21 YOU HAVE SAID THAT WE CAN BOLDLY DECLARE THAT GOD IS OUR HELPER.
07:25 AND WE DO DECLARE THAT NOW, LORD.
07:29 EVEN IN THE MIDST OF A WORLD THAT SEEMS TO HAVE GONE MAD OF
07:34 DEATH AND SORROW ALL OVER. WE KNOW A GOD WHO CANNOT FAIL.
07:38 >> YES. >> HAS NEVER FAILED.
07:40 AND WILL NOT FAIL. AND SO WE COMMEND OUR FRIENDS
07:44 AND EXTENDED 3ABN FAMILY TO YOU. OH, FATHER, WHERE THERE IS
07:50 SICKNESS, BRING HEALING, WHERE THERE'S DIVISION BRING UNITY,
07:55 WHERE THERE IS STRIFE, BRING PEACE.
07:57 AND LORD HELP YOUR CHILDREN TO KNOW THAT THEY CAN BE MORE THAN
08:04 CONQUERERS THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.
08:06 FATHER SHOW YOURSELF MIGHTY IN THESE LAST DAYS.
08:09 WE KNOW EVEN IN THE CHAOS OF SOCIETY, THERE IS ABOVE ALL,
08:15 BENEATH ALL AND BEHIND ALL, THERE IS A GOD WHO STILL SITS ON
08:20 THE THROWN AND HAS NOT LOST TOUCH AND HAS NOT LOST HIS POWER
08:24 TO HEAL, BLESS, AND SAVE. AND SO FATHER, IN THESE LAST -DAYS, STAND UP FOR YOUR PEOPLE,
08:31 AS WE STAND UP FOR YOU. SURROUND US AND GIVE US VICTORY,
08:36 AND EVEN AS WE STUDY HERE, MAY OUR WORDS BE YOUR WORDS.
08:41 MAY OUR THOUGHTS BE YOUR THOUGHTS.
08:43 AS WE SEEK TRUTH, WE WANT TO KNOW TRUTH, AND WE WANT DO THAT
08:47 WHICH IS RIGHT. THERE ARE THOSE HERE, FATHER WHO
08:50 ARE ILL. OH, FATHER BE WITH THEM, GIVE
08:53 THEM HEALING. WE THINK ABOUT SO MANY HERE WHO
08:56 ARE UNDER THE ATTACK OF THE ENEMY PHYSICALLY.
09:00 OH, FATHER HEAL THEM. AND THEN THOSE WHO ARE UNDER THE
09:04 ATTACK SPIRITUALLY. GIVE THEM VICTORY, WE DO PRAISE,
09:09 FATHER, FOR WE WANT TO BE SAVED, AND WE WANT TO SEE COUNTLESS
09:13 MILLIONS SAVED IN YOUR KINGDOM. SO BE WITH US THIS NIGHT, LOVING
09:19 LORD. STRENGTHEN US, TEACH US, SO WE
09:21 WILL HEAR AND LISTEN AND DO, AND WE THANK YOU MIGHTY FATHER FOR
09:26 YOUR PROMISE TO HEAR AND ANSWER THE PRAYER OF FAITH IN JESUS
09:31 NAME. AMEN.
09:32 >> AMEN. >> AMEN.
09:34 >> WHAT A PRAYER. >> IT WAS, BEAUTIFUL.
09:37 JOHN, I WANT TO START WITH YOU.-MAYBE EXPLAIN TO US, JUST -- IN HOW EVER YOU WANT TO DO IT, WHY
09:48 YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN TODAY. WHY ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN?
09:51 AND WHY ARE YOU A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHRISTIAN?
09:55 >> WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT
09:58 INFLUENCED ME TO BE WHO I AM TODAY.
10:00 ONE WAS JUST GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF MY LIFE STORY.
10:03 YOU HEARD IT BEFORE, BUT JUST FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WATCHING
10:09 AND LISTENING TO THE PROGRAM. I WAS RAISED IN A HOME BY AN
10:14 ADVENTIST LADY. THAT WAS MY FIRST EXPOSE SURE TO
10:24 CHRISTIANITY. AND SHE DIED, I LEFT THE CHURCH.
10:28 AND PASTOR CA CAME A FEW YEARS LATER.
10:31 BUT I WEN OUT INTO THE WORLD, AND GOT INVOLVED IN THE THINGS
10:36 OF NEW YORK CITY. I GREW UP IN A SET OF BELIEFS
10:40 BUT THEY WERE NOT MINE. THEY WERE A PART OF THE CHURCH I
10:44 ATTENDED. SO I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ROOTS DOWN
10:47 DEEP. I JUST HAD CHURCH ATTENDANCE,
10:49 AND I DID WHAT I WAS TOLD TO DO, AND THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT WHEN
10:55 YOU ARE IN A WEST INDIAN HOME. YOU GO TO CHURCH BECAUSE THERE
11:00 IS NO OTHER CHOICE. SO I WENT TO CHURCH, BUT I
11:04 DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARTICULAR AFFIRMATION OF FAITH OR ANYTHING
11:08 THAT I SAY NOW I KNOW FOR SURE. SO AT ABOUT 15 YEARS OLD.
11:12 I STARTED MY OWN SEARCH. AND I WENT TO DIFFERENT
11:15 CHURCHES. THE FIRST PLACE I WENT WAS TO A
11:19 NAZARENE CHURCH, AND RESPECT TO THOSE WHO ARE NAZARENE, THIS IS
11:23 NOT A REFLECTION ON YOU AT ALL. I WENT TO A YOUTH GROUP I HAD
11:28 HEARD ABOUT. BUT IN THE BACK OF MY MIND THERE
11:31 WERE CERTAIN BELIEFS I WAS RAISED WITH, AND I WANTED TO
11:34 KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE VALID OR NECESSARY.
11:36 SO I WENT TO THIS YOUTH GROUP AND I ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT
11:40 THE SABBATH. I ASKED THE YOUTH PASTOR, AND HE
11:45 SAID COME WITH ME, AND HE ESCORTED ME OUT OF THE
11:49 CLASSROOM, UP THE STEPS ACROSS THE HALLWAY, DOWN THE EXIT STEPS
11:53 AND HE PROCEEDED TO TELL ME, DON'T EVER COME BACK HERE.
11:57 >> OH. >> AND ALL I ASKED HIM
12:00 WAS -- I'M SEARCHING, AND I HAVE A QUESTION.
12:04 DOES THE BIBLE TEACH THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP THE SABBATH?
12:09 AND AS THE YOUTH PASTOR I EXPECTED AN ANSWER, BUT HEEST
12:12 SORTED ME OUT OF THE CHURCH AND TOLD ME NEVER TO COME BACK.
12:16 >> AND THAT POINT IN YOUR LIFE, HE PROBABLY HAD NO IDEA HOW
12:22 READILY YOU WERE TO HAVE HIM SAY IT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
12:26 >> HE COULD HAVE GIVEN ME SUPPORTIVE BIBLE VERSES AND I
12:30 WOULD HAVE BEEN FIND. BECAUSE I WAS IN THE DISC JOCKEY
12:35 WORLD, AND I WAS LOOKING FOR EXES -- EXCUSES TO CONINUE MY
12:47 OWN LIFESTYLE. BUT HE SAID NO, DON'T COME BACK.
12:50 SO I WENT TO A PENTECOSTAL CHURCH NEXT.
12:58 A VERY WELL-KNOWN BISHOP IN TOWN.
13:00 THE CHURCH WAS PACKED EVERY SUNDAY, AND AT THAT TIME, I WAS
13:05 GETTING A LITTLE BIT MORE PROACTIVE IN MY -- SO FAR I
13:08 HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING, SO LET ME HOLD ON TO THIS UNTIL I HAVE
13:14 AFFIRMATION.-SO I WENT TO SEE HIM IN HIS HUGE OFFICE.
13:18 THEY HAD TAKEN OVER A CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT HAD GONE DORMANT AND
13:23 MEMBERS MOVED AWAY. AND I SAID I HAVE A FEW
13:27 QUESTIONS TO ASK YOU, AND I PROCEEDED WITH THE ONE THAT I
13:32 BELIEVED WAS THE BIGGEST POINT OF SEPARATION BETWEEN THOSE WHO
13:36 GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAY AND THOSE WHO GO ON SATURDAY.
13:39 I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE SABBATH, AND HIS RESPONSE WAS -- I NEVER
13:44 FORGOT IT -- HE SAID, NOW, I HOPE YOU DON'T TELL ME THAT
13:51 ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE PASSED THE FIRST -- AND HE CONTINUED TO
13:56 RATTLE OFF HISTORY. AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNEW?
13:59 AND HE SAID, I'LL BE BACK. WELL, AFTER 45 MINUTES OF
14:04 SITTING IN HIS OFFICE BY MYSELF, AS THEY WOULD SAY IN THE KING
14:11 JAMES VERSION, I WITH NOT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.
14:16 [ LAUGHTER ] >> I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
14:18 TO THE GUY, SO I GOT UP AND LEFT.
14:21 >> OKAY. >> AND MY REBUTTAL WAS -- I'M
14:24 KIND OF ASHAMED, BUT THE NEXT SUNDAY I TOOK ABOUT A HUNDRED
14:30 AMAZING FACT FOLDERS ON THE SABBATH AND PUT IT ON THE WINDOW
14:36 SHIELDS OF EVERY CAR IN THE PARKING LOT.
14:39 >> OKAY. >> THE NEXT CHURCH WAS A -CATHOLIC CHURCH.
14:46 PETER CLAVER. I WENT TO SEE THE PRIEST THERE.
14:52 AND I ASKED HIM THE SAME QUESTION, AND HE SAID, YES, WE
14:56 DO KNOW THAT SAURDAY IS THE SABBATH, HOWEVER, OUR CHURCH
15:01 CHANGED -- A LONG TIME AGO FROM SATURDAY TO SUNDAY, AND I SAID,
15:07 NOW -- I'M STILL AROUND 17 -- I SAID WHY DON'T YOU JUST CHANGE
15:11 IT BACK? AND HE SAID, AND I QUOTE, IT HAS
15:15 BEEN TOO LONG. WE'RE TOO FAR GONE TO TURN BACK.
15:18 >> OKAY. >> IT WAS NOT LONG AFTER THAT I
15:23 MET ANGIE MY WIFE. AND THE LORD, I BELIEVE SENT HER
15:28 INTO MY LIFE TO LEAD ME BACK. AND AS I WAS STILL PARTYING,
15:33 STILL GAMBLING, POOL THAT IS, POOL HUSTLING, LIVING THAT NIGHT
15:38 LIFE, IT WAS IN HER LIVING ROOM THAT HER MOM AND FAMILY LEAD ME
15:43 POINT BY POINT TO WHAT I HAVE EMBRACED TODAY AS THE TRUTH.
15:48 BUT AS AN INQUISITIVE YOUNG MAN, WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?
15:54 AND WHEN SOMEBODY KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR, CHANCES ARE IT'S NOT A
16:00 MORMON, IT'S A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS.
16:03 >> MORE THAN LIKELY. >> AND WHEN THEY FOUND OUT I
16:08 WENT TO CHURCH ON SATURDAY, THAT ALWAYS CAME UP.
16:11 SO THE FIRST THING THAT LEAD ME BACK TO WHERE I AM TODAY IS I
16:16 WANTED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE BIBLE SABBATH WAS IMPORTANT.
16:19 AND IF IT HAD ANY REFLECTION AT ALL ON MY RELATIONSHIP WITH
16:24 JESUS, AND WHETHER OR WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS MOVING ME IN THE
16:30 DIRECTION OF JESUS. >> SO YOU WEREN'T LIVING A
16:35 CHRISTIAN LIFE, BUT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, AND WHEN
16:38 YOU BEGAN TO FELLOWSHIP AND STUDY WITH PEOPLE, YOU WANTED TO
16:43 MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST THERE WAS A STARTING POINT -- THAT
16:46 THERE WAS TRUTH THAT YOU FELT LIKE YOU COULD WORK FROM MAYBE
16:52 THERE, BUT YOU WERE SURPRISED TO FIND OUT THESE FOLKS DIDN'T HAVE
16:59 AN ANSWER. AND THEN YOU SAID ANGIE'S FAMILY
17:02 BROUGHT YOU INTO A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
17:05 AND FIRST OF ALL, ALL OF THE REST OF THIS IS NOT IMPORTANT
17:09 UNLESS WE HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD JESUS
17:15 CHRIST. >> AND THAT'S WHERE THE
17:16 DIFFERENCE WAS MADE WHEN I HAD THAT RELATIONSHIP, THEN THOSE
17:21 THINGS WERE -- I REFER TO IT NOW, THEY WERE PUTTING THE CART
17:25 BEFORE THE HORSE. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP
17:29 WITH JESUS, YO HAVE TO DO THIS, DO THAT, DO THIS, DO THAT.
17:35 IF YOU DON'T KNOW JESUS FIRST, WHAT IS CONSIDERED TRUTH IN THE
17:39 BIBLE IS REALLY NOT RELEVANT. >> OKAY.
17:42 SO CA YOUR VERSION. YOU WERE RAISED IN AN ADVENTIST
17:47 HOME WITH ADVENTIST PARENTS AND ALL OF THAT, RIGHT?
17:51 >> NOT AT ALL. WE LIVED NEXT DOOR TO THE RILES
17:55 FAMILY. AND WE PLAYED WITH THEM DURING
17:58 THE WEEK. ON SATURDAY THEY WOULD LOAD INTO
18:00 THE CAR AND DISAPPEAR FOR THE WHOLE DAY.
18:03 AND WE WERE BELOW TEN. SO, YOU KNOW, AT NINE YEARS OLD,
18:07 YOU ARE NOT THAT INQUISITIVE, YOU MARK THAT KIND OF WEIRD
18:13 BEHAVIOR. SO WE MOVED TO ANOTHER PART OF
18:15 THE CITY, AND WE MOVED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A GROUP
18:20 WITH THAT SAME BEHAVIOR, AND THE DAUGHTER WAS MY SISTER'S AGE,
18:27 AND THE SON WAS MY AGE. AND I SAID WHAT DO YOU DO ON
18:33 SATURDAY? AND THEY SAID WE GO TO SABBATH
18:37 SCHOOL. WHICH MEANT NOTHING TO ME.
18:41 BUT THEY SEEMED LIKE THEY LIKED IT.
18:44 AND SO I SAID I WANT TO GO. AND THEY SAID OKAY.
18:47 SO WE GO TO SABBATH SCHOOL, AND THERE WAS THIS YOUNG LADY,
18:59 MILLDREAD WILLIS. WHEN YOU GOT YOUR QUESTION RIGHT
19:05 SHE COULD SAY VERY GOOD. AND I SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANT
19:09 THAT. SO I ASKED -- I STUDIED IT.
19:12 AND WHEN SHE ASKED THE QUESTION NEXT WEEK, I WAS THE FIRSTHAND
19:16 UP. AND SHE SAID VERY GOOD.
19:19 AND SHE STROKED ME ON THE CHEEK. SO I WAS HOOKED.
19:23 I WAS GOING TO SABBATH SCHOOL. AND JUST A MONTH AGO SHE CALLED
19:27 ME FROM ATLANTA. >> REALLY.
19:29 >> SHE HEARD THAT STORY, AND SHE IS -- I THINK MAYBE IN HER 70S
19:34 NOW. AND SHE SAID I -- I REMEMBER
19:36 THAT, AND WE -- WE HAD A LITTLE TALK.
19:40 HER HUSBAND WAS CONRAD GILL. AND HE HATED HIM.
19:45 BECAUSE HE TOOK OUR TEACHER AWAY.
19:47 AND WHEN I SAW HIM IN THE SEMINARIRY.
19:51 AND I SAID, FOR 20 YEARS I HAVE HATED YOUR GUTS.
19:56 [ LAUGHTER ] >> AND WE HAD A GOOD LAUGH.
19:58 AND SHE SAID HE REMEMBERS THAT. BUT THAT DID IT FOR ME.
20:02 I -- WHEN I STARTED GOING TO CHURCH.
20:05 I SAW PEOPLE GOING HOME AND HAVING SABATH DINNER TOGETHER,
20:10 AND MY HOUSE WAS CHAOS. WATCHING FOOTBALL ON -- IN THE
20:14 WINTER AND BIBLE IN THE SUMMER. EVERYBODY IS WATCHING THEIR OWN
20:18 TELEVISION SET. MY MOTHER IN HER ROOM, MY
20:22 SISTER, MY DAD -- BECAUSE MY SISTER SCREAMS AT THE
20:25 TELEVISION, AND THEN MY MOTHER WANTS IT TOTALLY QUIET, AND MY
20:29 DAD IS BACK AND FORTH. SO I'M DODGING THREE TVS TO TRY
20:33 TO GET PEACE AND QUIET. AND I ENVIED ADVENTISTS WHO
20:40 WOULD HAVE DINNER TOGETHER. SO I STARTED GOING AT 9 AND AT
20:46 AGE 10, I WAS BAPTIZED. I GOT A SCHOLARSHIP TO PLAY
20:54 BASKETBALL. AND BROKE MY ANKLE TWO YEARS ON
21:00 SABBATH, AND MY PASTER TODAY, GOD IS SENDING YOU A MESSAGE.
21:07 SO I GOT THROUGH. I HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN RELIGION
21:11 AND ANOTHER BACHELOR'S IN BEHAVIORAL SCIENCE.
21:17 AND TWO DOCTORATES, BUT I ALWAYS LOVED BEING AN ADVENTIST.
21:23 SO I TRANSFERRED AND THEY FOUND SOMEWHERE FOR ME TO GO TO SCHOOL
21:29 SO I COULD FINISH, AND GOD WAS GOOD.
21:33 THERE WERE FIVE OF US GRADUATING MY SENIOR YEAR, AND THE
21:37 CONFERENCE SAID WE'RE TAKING TWO TO MINISTRY, AND SO I SAID LORD
21:42 IF YOU WANT ME IN, YOU HAVE TO GET ME IN.
21:45 AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, THEY TOOK ALL FIVE.
21:51 THEY TOOK FIVE, AND I SAID LORD, I GUESS YOU WANT ME IN THIS
21:55 THING, AND I NEVER LOOKED BACK. AND THE FIRST CHURCH I MET
22:04 PASTOR JOHN LOMACANG. HE WAS A HUSTLER THEN.
22:10 AND 14 YEARS EASILY. >> I DRAG HIM EVERYWHERE I GO.
22:15 >> THAT'S WHAT I SAY ABOUT YVONNE.
22:18 BUT IT HAS BEEN A BLESSING. AND I HAVE LOOKED AT OTHER FAITH
22:23 GROUPS AND OTHER RELIGIONS, AND I SEE WHERE ADVENTISTISM FITS.
22:30 ADVENTISTS ARE NOT ANY BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
22:33 WE JUST WANT THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH, AND NOTHING BUT THE
22:37 TRUTH. THERE IS A DOCTRINE THAT IS
22:41 UNDER ALL RELIGION. ONTOLOGY.
22:44 ONTOLOGY IS THE STATE OF BEING.-ALL RELIGIONS HAVE A ONTOLOGY BASE.
22:53 HOW DID I GET HERE? WHERE DID I COME FROM?
22:56 WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO LIVE WHILE I AM HERE?
22:59 AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I'M GONE? AND ALL RELIGIONS HAVE TO ANSWER
23:03 THOSE QUESTIONS. AND IF THEY DON'T IT'S USELESS.
23:07 WHERE DID I COME FROM? HOW DID I GET HERE?
23:10 WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO LIVE WHILE I AM HERE?
23:14 AND WHAT HAPPENS AFTER I'M GONE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
23:18 CHRISTIAN AND NON-CHRISTIAN IS CHRISTIANS HAVE ASKED AND
23:22 ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS. IF YOU ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS, IT
23:27 DRIVES YOU TO CHRIST. >> YEAH.
23:30 >> SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHRISTIAN AND
23:33 NON-CHRISTIAN IS A CHRISTIAN HAS LOOKED THOSE QUESTIONS IN THE
23:37 FACE AND ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS.
23:40 IF A PERSON SAYS I DON'T KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T ASKED THOSE
23:46 QUESTIONS. >> OKAY.
23:48 >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS KEPT ME ON THIS TRAJECTORY FOR
23:51 30 YEARS AS A PASTOR, GOING ON MY 34TH YEAR IN MARRIAGE AND
23:57 MINISTRY, AND BEING A CHRISTIAN FOR MORE YEARS THAN THAT, AS AN
24:01 AN VENN ADVERTISE. IS THE STATEMENT IN JESUS.
24:05 IF YOU ABIDE BY MY WORD YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES INDEED.
24:13 I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO TEST THIS THING CALLED
24:17 CHRISTIAN -- ADVENTIST CHRIS -- I WANT TO USE THE WORD
24:20 CHRISTIAN, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU SAY ADVENTIST, PEOPLE
24:24 THINK, WELL, HOW DIFFERENT ARE THEY FROM MORMON OR
24:31 JEHOVAH'S WITNESS. SO I WANT TO SAY CHRISTIAN
24:37 ADVENTIST, OR ADVENTIST CHRISTIANS.
24:40 I HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO TEST THIST
24:47 THISSED A -- ADVENTISTISM. JESUS SAYS IF YOU ABIDE IN MY
24:53 WORD YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES INDEED.
24:57 SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M ABIDING IN HIS WORD.
25:01 >> OKAY. >> YOU WITH ABIDE IN THE
25:03 AIRPORT, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TICKET --
25:06 >> YOU WILL NEVER GET OUT OF THERE.-[ LAUGHTER ]
25:08 >> WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO? >> WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO?
25:11 >> AND THEN HE SAYS YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE TRUTH
25:17 SHALL MAKE YOU FREE. YOU CAN SET A PRISONER FREE, BUT
25:20 HE WILL GO BACK IF HE IS NOT MADE FREE.
25:23 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I HAVE NOT HAD A RECIDIVISM
25:28 EXPERIENCE IN MY LIFE, BECAUSE THIS THING CALLED TRUTH HAS KEPT
25:32 ME FREE. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO
25:35 THE VIEWING AND LISTENING AUDIENCE IS IF WHAT YOU
25:39 PRACTICED IS NOT FOUND IN FOUNDATIONED IN GOD'S WORD, BUT
25:44 JUST FOUNDATIONED IN YOUR DENOMINATION, THEN IT'S NOT TRUE
25:48 FREEDOM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FORMATION
25:51 OF THE NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH, THE BURYIANS CHECKED IT OUT, AND
26:01 WHEN PAUL AND THINK APOSTLES PEACHED, THEY DIDN'T JUST TAKE
26:07 THEIR WORD FOR IT. IT HAS BEEN HAPPENING FOR A
26:10 NUMBER OF DECADES, PEOPLE TEND TO TAKE THE WORD OF THE SPEAKER
26:16 OVER THE ABLE TO. JESUS SAID IF YOU ABIDE IN MY
26:20 WORD. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
26:21 >> SO THESE BELIEFS WE HAVE, I BELIEVE IT IS FROM HIS WORD, NOT
26:28 OUR PRESIDENT'S WORD, NOT OUR CONFERENCE LEADER'S WORD, BUT
26:33 THE WORD OF JESUS. >> OKAY.
26:36 >> AND TO ADD TO -- I ALMOST CALLED YOU RABBI.
26:43 [ LAUGHTER ] >> IS THAT IT -- IT MAY SOUND A
26:48 LITTLE BY -- BIGOTED, BUT IT IS TRUE.
26:55 IF YOU ARE BASING YOUR LIFE ON A FAITH BASE, YOU BETTER BE SURE
27:00 THAT THAT CHURCH IS GOING TO GET YOU HOME.
27:03 AND IF YOU HAVE ANY DOUBT GET OUT OF THAT CHURCH AND FINE ONE
27:07 THAT WORKS. IF YOU SEE A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE
27:12 INNED A VENNTISM, IT'S NOT ARROGANCE, IT'S JUST I'M BASING
27:17 MY ETERNITY ON SOMETHING. AND THIS IS IT.
27:20 IT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS FOR ME, THE CHALLENGES THAT I HAVE IN MY
27:27 LIFE, I FOUND A PATH TO JESUS THROUGH JESUS THROUGH GOD AND
27:33 ETERNITY. AND I'M BASING MY ETERNITY ON
27:35 THAT. AND SINCE YOU ARE EITHER GOING
27:38 TO SPENDING IT WITH JESUS OR WITHOUT HIM, YOU BETTER BE SURE
27:42 THAT THAT ROAD IS GOING TO TAKE YOU HOME.
27:45 AND YOU BETTER BE SURE THAT YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE CHURCH.
27:50 >> YES. >> WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS
27:54 DISCUSS SOME OF THE DIFFERENCES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MAKE
27:57 US -- LET'S SAY, UNIQUE AS A CHURCH AND A PEOPLE.
28:00 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS SEEM TO
28:04 REALLY FOCUS ON IS PROPHECY, BUT AS YOU, JOHN, AND CA, I'M SURE,
28:11 AND MANY OF OUR VIEWERS TELL US THIS ALL THE TIME.
28:14 THEY GO, I HAVE BEEN TO CHURCH ALL MY LIFE, AND WE NEVER STUDY
28:20 REVELATION, WE DON'T STUDY DANIEL, WE DON'T STUDY PROPHECY,
28:25 AND SOMEBODY SAID TO ME, WHY DO YOU SPEND SO MUCH TIME IN
28:31 PROPHECY? AND I SAID I GUESS IT'S FOR ME.
28:35 BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND PROPHECY, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
28:38 WHERE YOU ARE GOING, RIGHT? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
28:42 >> IT'S LIKE GETTING IN THE CAR, HEADING SOMEWHERE AND NOT REALLY
28:46 KNOWING WHERE YOU ARE GOING, OR HOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET THERE.
28:51 BUT WHAT PROPHECY DOES TO ME, AND THIS IS WHY IT'S SO
28:55 IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE READ THE BACK OF THE BOOK, BECAUSE THE
28:58 BACK OF THE BOOK TELLS YOU THAT WHEN YOU ARE TRAVELING DOWN
29:02 LIFE'S HIGHWAY, YOU ARE TO EXPECT OBSTACLES.
29:08 YOU ARE TO EXPECT THE DEVIL IS OUT TO STEAL, KILL, AND DESTROY,
29:12 SO INSTEAD OF GETTING DISCOURAGED AND SAYING LORD WHAT
29:16 HAS HAPPENED TO ME NOW, GOD HAS FORSAKEN ME.
29:22 WHY AM I IN THIS SITUATION, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN WE KNOW
29:32 PROPHECY, WE KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, THAT THE DEVIL IS GOING TO DO
29:36 EVERYTHING HE CAN DO TO YOU AND ME FROM MAKING HEAVEN A HOME.
29:42 SO NOW WHEN I LOOK AT PROPHECY, I CAN SEE THE HISTORY OF THE
29:47 CHURCH, WHICH -- AND THE WORLD -- WHICH IS CONFIRMATION.
29:50 WHEN I LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD, AND LOOK AT THE
29:53 CHURCH AND HOW ACCURATE THE BIBLE IS IN THIS HISTORY.
29:58 IT'S ACCURATE UP TO HERE, AND NOW THE FUTURE, I HAVE NO REASON
30:02 TO DOUBT THE FUTURE. >> RIGHT.
30:05 BUT NOW IT GIVES ME THAT I DON'T GET DISCOURAGED.
30:12 SO NO MATTER WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH, YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING
30:16 TO WIN. BUT IF I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING
30:18 ABOUT PROPHECY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
30:21 MAYBE I'M JUST GOING TO DIE AND THAT'S IT.
30:24 BUT WE KNOW -- THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND 3ABN SPENDS A
30:28 LOT OF TIME, AND YOU CAN WATCH IT, AND WE HAVE STUDIES ON THE
30:34 PROPHECIES, TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE IT'S AN OPENING FOR US
30:37 TO SEE INTO THE WINDOW OF WHAT GOD HAS PLANNED FOR US.
30:42 IT'S A OUR FUTURE IN STORE FOR US, AND IT SAYS, WE LIVE AND
30:47 RULE AND REIGN FOREVER WITH JESUS CHRIST WHEN WE SUBMIT AND
30:52 COMMIT OUR LIVES TO HIM. ASIDE FROM THAT, WE MIGHT TAK
30:56 TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE -- I WANT
30:59 THIS FOR OUR VIEWERS AT HOME. SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, THERE
31:04 ARE PEOPLE WHO SAY, YOU SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS, YOU
31:06 GUYS -- YOU SAY YOU ARE CHRISTIANS AND YOUR ARE
31:11 PROTESTANTS, BUT YOU BELIEVE YOU ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE SAVED.
31:14 SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS, IS THIS TRUE OR FALSE?
31:18 >> FALSE. >> QUITE FALSE.
31:20 >> TOTALLY FALSE. >> BASED ON -- SO YOU THINK THAT
31:24 PEOPLE WILL BE IN HEAVEN WHO ARE NOT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST.
31:28 >> YES, JOHN 10:16, JESUS SAID OTHER SHEEP I HAVE WHICH ARE NOT
31:35 OF THIS FOLD. >> OKAY.
31:36 >> BUT HE DOESN'T STOP THERE. AND DURING THE
31:39 FORMATION -- DURING THE TIME WHEN JESUS WAS DISCIPLING HIS
31:45 DISCIPLES, THEY NOTICED ANOTHER GROUP, AND THEY SAID -- THEY
31:50 POINTED TO JESUS AND SAID >> UH-HUH.
31:53 >> AND WHAT DID JESUS SAY? >> OTHER SHEEP I HAVE.
31:56 IF YOU ARE NOT FOR ME YOU ARE AGAINST ME.
31:59 >> BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE JESUS SAID THEY ARE NOT
32:03 INTERRUPTING WHAT WE ARE DOING, LEAVE THEM ALONE.
32:07 BUT JESUS WAS DISCIPLING HIS DISCIPLES SO THAT AFTER HE
32:11 FINISHES TRAINING THEM, THEY CAN DO GREATER WORKS.
32:15 HE ALSO SAYS IN ACTS, TIME OF IGNORANCE GOD WINKED AT.
32:23 AND YOU CANNOT HOLD SOMEONE ACCOUNTABLE THAT IS NOT
32:27 AVAILABLE TO KNOW. AND WE'RE NOT LIVING IN AN AGE
32:31 OF IGNORANCE. SO FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, I DON'T
32:34 WANT TO KNOW -- >> OKAY.
32:36 >> -- YOU ARE JUST AS ACCOUNTABLE AS SOMEONE WHO HEARD
32:39 ABOUT IT AND REJECTED IT. >> WELL SAID.
32:42 WHILE WE'RE IN THE BOOK OF ACTS, BELIEVE IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
32:47 AND YOU SHALL BE SAVED. >> OKAY.
32:50 >> THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A STATIC, I BELIEVE.
32:54 THAT'S BELIEVE AND DO. IT'S BELIEVE AND DO.
32:57 SO ONCE YOU BELIEVE AND ALL THAT THAT ENTAILS, THE DEFAULT
33:02 SETTING IS YOU WILL BE SAVED, SO THAT YOUR MIND MUST ALWAYS BE
33:07 OPEN TO THOSE THINGS THAT GOD IS SHOWING YOU.
33:10 SO IF YOU SAY, I BELIEVE. THAT'S ENOUGH.-NO, HE IS SAYING A BELIEF THAT
33:16 RESULTS IN ACTIVITY, WHICH MEANS SEEKING, AND PRAYING, AND
33:21 WORKING, AND STRIVES, SO THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE NOT IN THIS
33:26 FRATERNITY BY NAME WHO BELIEVE WITH ALL OF THEIR HEART, AND
33:31 CHRIST SAYS THAT'S THE ROAD TO -- TO SALVATION.
33:35 WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE THE ONLY ONES.
33:38 GOD HAS OTHER SHEEP IN OTHER FRATERNITIES.
33:43 SOME WILL COME IN. SOME MAY NOT.
33:46 I'M SO GLAD THAT I'M NOT IN CHARGE OF THE SAVING BUSINESS,
33:50 THAT GOD IS. AND HE KNOWS WHAT IS GOING ON IN
33:53 YOUR HEAD AND YOUR HEART. >> THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS
33:59 THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, YOU ALL THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES
34:03 SAVED. AND OF COURSE WE'RE FINDING OUT
34:06 THAT IS NOT TRUE. BUT LET ME THROW SOME OTHER
34:10 THINGS OUT THAT MIGHT SURPRISE YOU.
34:13 THERE ARE CHURCHES AND GROUPS -- SOME HUGE GROUPS OF
34:17 PEOPLE, WHO BELIEVE IF YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER OF THEIR GROUP,
34:21 THEN YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE SAVED.
34:23 THE ONLY ONES. NOW WHAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST
34:28 CHRISTIAN DENOMINATION WHO BELIEVES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE A
34:30 MEMBER OF THEIR CHURCH TO BE SAVED?
34:33 >> WELL, TO BE VERY CANDID, CATHO
34:42 CATHOLICISM. LARGEST BY FAR.
34:43 I WAS JUST ABOUT TO FINISH A BOOK -- BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR
34:48 THREE AND A HALF YEARS NOW. BUT THE POPE SAID CLEARLY, HE
34:51 SAID, OTHER DENOMINATIONS ARE NOT TRUE DENOMINATIONS.
34:57 HE SAID FROM THE SUCCESSION OF PETER, THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS
35:03 BORN, AND WE ARE -- IF I COULD USE THE PHRASE, WE HAVE BEEN
35:07 GIVEN THE KEYS. SO IF YOU ARE NOT A PART OF
35:10 THIS, YOU ARE NOT A PART OF THE TRUE CHURCH.
35:13 ON THE SAME TOKEN, THEY EXTEND WHAT WE CALL THE INVITATION TO
35:18 COME AND JOIN US TO BE A PART OF THE TRUE MOVEMENT AND THE TRUE
35:22 CHURCH. LET ME BALANCE THAT, AND I WANT
35:24 TO ADD ANOTHER COMPONENT HERE. THE QUESTION THAT SOMEBODY MIGHT
35:27 BE ASKING, AND I KNOW THIS TO BE THE CASE, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE
35:33 YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE SAVED, WHY DO YOU
35:38 HOLD SO DEARLY TOED A ADVENTISTISM.
35:52 THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE. IF TRUTH DIDN'T MATTER, DANNY,
35:57 THEN I COULD BE ANYTHING. >> UH-HUH.
35:59 >> UH-HUH. >> IF MY DESTINATION WASN'T
36:03 IMPORTANT, IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHAT AIRPLANE I GOT ON, WHAT
36:07 BANK I WENT TO, IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHAT I DID ON A
36:13 DAY-TO-DAY BASE, AND IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHAT I BELIEVED.
36:17 BUT THE TRUTH IS NOT JUST WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, BUT THE TRUTH
36:21 SPECIFICALLY REFLECTS ON WHO JESUS IS.
36:24 SO WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT A MAN I KNOW?
36:32 IF I KNEW YOU -- SOMEBODY SAID, DO YOU KNOW DANNY SHELTON?
36:36 YEAH, I KNOW DANNY SHELTON. HE IS AN AIRPLANE PILOT?
36:40 NO, HE IS NOT. NOT THE DANNY SHELTON I KNOW.
36:44 WELL, YOU CAN'T KNOW DANNY SHELTON IF HE IS NOT AN AIRPLANE
36:49 PILOT. WELL, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
36:51 YES, IT DOES MATTER. BECAUSE WE HAVE TO KNOW WE'RE
36:55 TALKING ABOUT THE SAME INDIVIDUAL?
36:57 >> YEAH. >> JESUS HAS ESTABLISHED CERTAIN
37:00 TRUTHS AND YOU SAY THE TRUTH DOESN'T MATTER.
37:02 >> UH-HUH. >> I THINK IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
37:07 POINT THAT WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND THE WAY YOU BEHAVE IS A
37:12 REFLECTION ON -- ON THE GOD THAT YOU SERVE.
37:14 IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU DIE AND GO IMMEDIATELY TO HELL AND BURN
37:18 FOREVER, THAT IS A PICTURE OF GOD THAT IS UNTRUE, BUT IT ALSO
37:23 MAKES GOD A HORRIBLE PERSON, SO WHAT YOU BELIEVE ABOUT THE GOD
37:26 YOU SERVE IS REFLECTIVE OF -- OF -- OF WHAT HE IS.
37:31 AND IF YOU THNK HE IS A MEAN GUY TRYING TO KEEP YOU OUT, YOU
37:35 LIVE ONE WAY. IF YOU THINK HE IS A LOVING GOD,
37:39 TRYING TO GET YOU IN, YOU LIVE ANOTHER WAY.
37:42 SO IT'S NOT JUST FOR YOU. >> SO THERE ARE A LOT OF
37:48 RELIGIOUS GROUPS WHO BELIEVE THAT UNLESS YOU ARE PART OF THAT
37:51 GROUP, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE SAVED, RIGHT?
37:55 >> RIGHT. >> JEHOVAH'S WITNESS, MORMONS,
38:03 THEOLOGIANS, DO THEY FEEL YOU NEED TO BE A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS
38:09 TO BE SAVED? >> I WOULD THINK IF YOU
38:13 APPROACHED A JEHOVAH'S WITNESS OR MORMON, THEY WOULD SAY, I
38:20 DON'T BELIEVE THAT. DR. CEDO PUNDIS, SAID EVERY
38:31 RELIGION IS BIASED. EVERY RELIGION HAS A SLANT
38:36 TOWARDS THEIR OWN BELIEFS. BUT RATHER THAN SAYING, I
38:41 BELIEVE I'M THE ONLY ONE SAVED OR THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE THE
38:44 ONLY ONE SAVED, I MUST ASK A DIFFERENT QUESTION.-THE BEST WAY TO BE SAVED, THAT
38:58 WOULD GIVE ME THE INFORMATION WHETHER OR NOT I NEED TO FOLLOW
39:04 YOU. BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS THIS IS
39:06 THE WAY WALK THEE IN IT. AND THEN THERE IS A AY THAT
39:12 SEEMS RIGHT, BUT IS THE WAY OF DEATH.
39:15 I DON'T WANT MY BELIEF SYSTEMS TO BE JUST A POINT OF COMFORT
39:19 HERE, ONLY TO FIND OUT I HAVE BEEN ABIDING IN DARKNESS AND
39:25 UNTRUTHS. LET ME GET MORE SPECIFIC.
39:27 FOR EXAMPLE, WE BELIEVE IN THE VISIBLE, LITERAL, SECOND COMING
39:31 OF JESUS. >> UH-HUH.
39:33 >> WE -- THE BIBLE -- WE DON'T BELIEVE IN THE SECRET RAPTURE,
39:38 THE SNATCHING AWAY OF THE CHURCH, YET ACCORDING TO THIS
39:43 COMMON PHILOSOPHY, IF BELIEVE THAT ANY DAY NOW, THE CHURCH
39:48 COULD DISAPPEAR. CALLED THE SECRET RAPTURE.
39:54 >> YES, AND THE BIBLE DOESN'T TEACH IT.
39:57 >> THANK YOU. >> AND YOUR POINT IS VERY
40:00 WELL-TAKEN. THERE IS A WAY.
40:02 YOU WANT TO FIND THAT WAY, AND WALK IN THAT WAY.
40:07 NOT WALK PARALLEL TO THAT WAY. THERE IS SOME TRUTH IN EVERY
40:13 RELIGION. BUT WHAT WE WANT IS WHOLE TRUTH.
40:15 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHOLE TRUTH.
40:18 >> YOU WANT TO FIND A WAY, AND THEN ADDRESS YOURSELF TO THAT
40:22 WAY. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THAT WAY
40:26 LEADS TO HEAVEN. TAKE SOME DETOUR, WHERE ARE YOU
40:31 GOING TO END UP. BUT THERE IS A WAY ESTABLISHED.
40:34 YOU WANT TO BE IN THAT WAY, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHERE THAT WAY
40:39 LEADS. >> SO SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS ARE
40:42 CONSIDERED PROTESTANTS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
40:44 >> THERE ARE PROTESTANTS AND CATHOLICS.
40:47 SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A PROTESTANT.
40:51 BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLK IN THAT GROUP.
40:54 YOU HAVE YOUR CATHOLICS, BUT IF YOU TALK TO BAPTISTS, MOST
41:04 EVANGELICALS, CONSIDER THEMSELVES PROTESTANTS, AM I
41:07 RIGHT? >> TRUE.
41:08 >> BUT WHERE DID THAT TERM COME FROM?
41:12 >> I ASKED PERMISSION FROM THE OLDER GENTLEMEN.
41:15 >> I SEE THAT. >> THANK YOU, PASTOR.
41:18 >> THAT'S THE WAY TO PUT YOU UNDER THE BUS THAT YOU ARE THE
41:23 OLDEST. [ LAUGHTER ]
41:25 >> GO AHEAD. >> PROTESTANT IS A WORD FOR
41:31 PROTEST. YOU HAVE A MOVEMENT THAT STARTED
41:33 IN THE GREATEST CON -- CORN TRIB BU FOR WAS MARTIN LUTHER.
41:47 BUT YOU HAVE OTHERS. >> YES, THE MORNINGSTAR OF THE
41:54 REFORMATION. YOU WERE EITHER CATHOLIC -- THIS
41:57 IS WESTERN CIVILIZATION. >> YES.
42:00 >> AND THAT WAS THE CHURCH. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
42:02 >> BUT THERE WAS ALWAYS A -- A GROUP -- AND -- AND THIS IS SO
42:07 BEAUTIFUL -- GOD HAS ALWAYS HAD A PEOPLE.
42:10 SOMETIMES THEY HAVE BEEN UNDERGROUND, SOMETIMES THEY HAVE
42:12 BEEN ALMOST EXTERMINATED. THEY HAVE HIDDEN, BUT THEN THEY
42:16 CAME ABOVE GROUND. THERE WERE THOSE THAT HAD THE
42:20 FAITH AND GRACE TO SAY WHAT THIS CHURCH IS TEACHING IS NOT IN
42:25 HARMONY WITH THE BIBLE AS WE SEE IT.
42:28 WE SEE GROSS MISREPRESENTATIONS. AND WE HAVE NOT TO REALIGN
42:33 OURSELVES WITH THE WORD OF GOD. SO A PROTEST MOVEMENT WAS BEGUN.
42:39 IT TOOK PLACE OVER MANY, MANY HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
42:43 A LOT OF BLOOD WAS SHED, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIED TO TRY TO
42:49 ESTABLISH THE MOVEMENT. BUT GOD ROSE UP A PEOPLE.
42:56 AND THOSE PEOPLE PROTESTED AGAINST THE THINGS THAT WERE
43:00 BEING DONE THAT THEY FELT WERE NOT BIBLICAL.
43:03 >> THE CHURCH OF ROME, BASICALLY, AND WE CALL IT THE
43:07 OLD COUNTRY AND THE NEW COUNTRY, BUT PEOPLE FLED TO THE NEW
43:11 COUNTRY TO GET AWAY FROM RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION.
43:15 THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOLKS CAME TO AMERICA, BECAUSE THEY
43:18 WERE BEING PERSECUTED AND LOOKING FOR A LAND OF RELIGIOUS
43:25 FREEDOM. >> AND WHEN THEY GOT TO AMERICA,
43:27 THEY BROUGHT A LOT OF OLD STUFF WITH THEM.
43:29 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AFTER 18 YEARS A NUMBER OF
43:32 THINGS CAME OUT OF THAT. BUT THE BIG THING WAS TRADITION
43:37 WAS EQUAL TO SCRIPTURE. NOW YOU ARE SAYING IF WE DO THIS
43:42 LONG ENOUGH, IT SUPERSEDES THE BIBLE.
43:45 JUST BECAUSE YOU DO IT, THAT DOESN'T SUPERSEDE SCRIPTURE, WE
43:50 BASE OUR LIFE ON THE WORD OF GOD.
43:52 AND THINGS COME IN -- WELL, WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR A BAPTISM.
43:58 LET'S JUST SPRINKLE. THAT'S TRADITION.
44:01 YOU DO IT LONG ENOUGH, IT BECOMES RELIGION.
44:09 SO WE HAVE GOT TO LINE UP WITH THE WORD OF GOD.
44:13 >> A LOT OF GROUPS THAT WERE COMING UP IN THESE RELIGIOUS
44:20 ORGANIZATIONS, THEY WERE SEPARATING THEMSELVES FROM THE
44:22 CATHOLIC CHURCH. BECAUSE THEY JOINED A GROUP
44:25 CALLED PROTESTANTS, WHICH YOU JUST SAID MEANS TO PROTEST.
44:31 SO BASICALLY SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS IN THE 1800S, WHEN
44:34 THEY CAME ALONG, THEY ALSO JOINED THIS GROUP OF
44:39 PROTESTANTS. NOW DID THESE
44:40 CHURCHES -- METHODISTS, BAPTISTS, PENTECOSTAL, DO ALL OF
44:47 THESE GROUPS THAT CALL THEMSELVES PROTESTANT, DO THEY
44:50 HAVE THE SAME MIND SET OR THE SAME INFORMATION HISTORY WISE
44:55 THAT SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST DO? BECAUSE I'M GETTING TO THIS
44:58 POINT, AND YOU KNOW WHERE I'M GOING, WHAT SEPARATES PEOPLE?
45:02 BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE ADVENTISTS OR
45:09 PROTESTANTS? AND I SAY SOMETIMES JUST TO GET
45:11 THEIR ATTENTION, YES, ARE YOU SURE YOU ARE?
45:15 BECAUSE WHEN THE LUTHERANS BROKE AWAY FROM THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
45:19 THEY WERE PROTESTING -- YOU KNOW, UNDER PROTEST, ALL OF
45:23 THESE OTHERS, BUT SAID, JOHN, IT SEEMS LIKE VERY FEW GROUPS THAT
45:27 THOUGH THEY ARE CALLED PROTESTANT REALLY KNOWS WHAT IT
45:31 MEANS TO BE A PROTESTANT. IF YOU ASK JOHN DOE CHRISTIAN
45:36 WALKING DOWN THE STREET, ARE YOU CATHOLIC OR PROTESTANT?
45:42 THEY WILL SAY I'M PROTESTANT, AND MOST OF THEM DON'T KNOW WHAT
45:50 THAT MEANS. SO WHY ARE YOU DIFFERENT?
45:52 WHY -- HOW DO THAT WORK INTO THIS THING CALLED PROTESTANT.
45:59 >> LET ME ADD THIS POINT. YOU SAID DID ADVENTISTS JOIN THE
46:06 PROSTANT MOVEMENT? IT WAS A MOVEMENT ALL AND OF
46:09 ITSELF IN DEVELOPMENTAL STAGES, WHICH INCLUDED PEOPLE OF OTHER
46:15 FAITHS. >> OKAY.
46:17 >> SO YOU HAD BAPTISTS, METHODISTS, PRESBYTERIANS, AND
46:22 OTHER FAITHS THAT HAD THEIR OWN ESTABLISHED BELIEFS.
46:26 AND ALONG COMES WILLIAM MILLER, WHO -- WHAT WAS HE?
46:31 >> A DEIST. >> A DEIST, AND DIDN'T REALLY
46:36 HAVE A LEANING TOWARDS FOLLOWING GOD, BUT HE BEGAN STUDYING THE
46:41 BIBLE AND CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT HEY, THE SECOND ADVENTIST
46:48 IS MAYBE NOT TOO FAR AWAY. AND OUT OF THAT, PEOPLE SAID,
46:55 LET'S LOOK AT THE BIBLE AND SEE WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES US.
47:00 AND SOME OF THE PRIDE THAT EXISTED WAS SET ASIDE, AND
47:05 PEOPLE GENUINELY DECIDED TO STUDY THE BIBLE.
47:09 WE MAY BE CONSIDERED A CHURCH TODAY IN THE LEGAL SENSE BUT
47:14 WE'RE A MOVEMENT. WHEN THE LORD SAID GO THERE FOR
47:22 AND TEACH ALL NATIONS. >> YES.
47:26 >> THIS MOVEMENT THIS CONTINUAL ROLLING BALL OF CHRISTIANITY
47:31 WOULD ABSORB INTO ANYONE WHO WOULD DECIDE THEY WANTED TO
47:34 RESPOND TO THE CALL. ADVENTISTISM BECAME A MOVEMENT
47:41 LONG BEFORE IT WAS ESTABLISHED AS A CHURCH.
47:45 IS THIS BELIEF ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE.
47:48 YES. IS THIS BELIEF ACCORDING TO THE
47:51 BIBLE? OKAY.
47:51 LET'S ABANDON THAT. AND WILLIAM MILLER DIDN'T ACCEPT
47:57 THE SABBATH, AND WHEN ELLEN WHITE WAS A YOUNG GIRL, SHE
48:01 THOUGHT THERE WAS TOO MUCH EMPHASIS PLACED ON THE BIBLE
48:07 SABBATH, BUT WHEN SHE SAW IT WAS TAUGHT BY SCRIPTURE, ALL OF OUR
48:12 THOUGHTS WERE ESTABLISHED BY STUDYING THE BIBLE.
48:14 AND I WAS JUST GIVING A BIBLE STUDY A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO ON
48:19 THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. AND I SAID HOW AMAZING THIS IS
48:25 THAT THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION WHICH TOOK OFF, AND THE ROMAN
48:31 CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS THE POWER ALL THROUGHOUT THE WESTERN
48:38 HEMISPHERE AND ALL OF EUROPE, INTERESTING ENOUGH, IN THE YEAR
48:45 1798, ACCORDING TO BIBLE PROPHECY, THE PAPACY RECEIVED A
48:51 DEADLY WOUND. SO FROM 1798 TO 1929, ROME WAS
48:59 PRETTY MUCH A DORMANT RELIGION. AND DURING THAT TIME WHILE GOD
49:07 HANDCUFFED ROME -- [ LAUGHTER ]
49:10 >> GOD HANDCUFFED ROME, BECAUSE GOD SAID I NEED TO BRING BACK
49:17 WHAT HAS BEEN SUPPRESSED IN THE DARK AGES.
49:21 >> AND THEN DURING THIS TIME WHEN ROME WAS SORT OF IN
49:31 HIBER HIBERNATION CAME THE SECOND
49:35 AWAKENING, AND WE WERE PART OF THAT MOVEMENT.
49:37 THE DIFFERENCE WAS IN THE EARLIER PART OF THE REFORMATION,
49:41 THEY WERE SPEARHEADED BY INDIVIDUALS, CALVIN, LUTHER, AND
49:47 FOR THE MOST PART THE CHURCH THAT GROW OUT OF THAT DIDN'T GO
49:51 MUCH FURTHER THAN THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IT WAS BASED ON.
49:54 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WHAT HAPPENED WITHED A VENN
50:01 ENTISM, WAS IT WAS BIBLE BASED. ELLEN WHITE GAVE THEM TO US, OR
50:09 JOSEPH GAVE THEM TO US, THEY WERE DONE AS A CONSEQUENCE OF
50:15 BIBLE STUDY. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
50:18 >> AND IT WAS A BLESSING, BECAUSE WE -- WE HAD OUR HOPES
50:22 SET ON THIS DATE, AND IT WAS OBVIOUS, THE NEXT SOMEDAY THAT
50:28 OCTOBER [ INAUDIBLE ] WAS WRONG. IT WAS WRONG.
50:32 WE HAVE GOT TO GO BACK TO THE WORD.
50:35 >> LET THE BIBLE SPEAK. >> LET THE BIBLE SPEAK.
50:42 AND THAT'S THE WAY A FAITH SHOULD DEVELOP.
50:46 BIBLE STUDY AND PRAYER. >> OKAY.
50:48 >> AND SO YOU HAD -- WHAT I WAS SO APPRECIATIVE OF, AND I GOT
50:57 EXCITED IN THIS BIBLE STUDY, HOW GOD -- HOW GOD FORECASTED THAT
51:02 AMERICA WOULD BE THE PLACE WHERE THE CHURCH WOULD BE BORN.
51:05 >> UH-HUH. >> IN REVELATION 12, THE EARTH
51:10 OPENED ITS MOUTH. LET ME MAKE A POINT ABOUT
51:14 PROPHECY, WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND PROPHECY, YOU DON'T HAVE
51:18 BLINDFOLDERS ON, SHOOTING IN THE DARK ABOUT EVENTS THAT WILL
51:23 OCCUR. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
51:24 >> YOU HEARD MANY TIMES WHEN THE GULF WAR BROKE OUT UNDER FIRST
51:32 PRESIDENT BUSH, ALL OF THESE LEADERS OF MAJOR DOMINATIONS
51:36 SAID THIS IS THE BATTLE OF ARM GET DONE.
51:40 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> I COULD NOT FORGET THE NEWS
51:45 REPORTER THAT WROTE A REBUTTAL IN THE NEWSPAPER IN CALIFORNIA.
51:52 HE SAID IF YOU KNEW, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY THIS AHEAD OF TIME?
51:58 >> PROPHECY IS NOT HINDSIGHT. IT'S FORESIGHT.
52:03 >> THAT'S RIGHT.-BUT WE KNOW IT WAS SIMPLY A WAR IN IRAQ.
52:08 >> UH-HUH. >> THE MOVEMENTS THAT HAVE COME
52:12 AND GONE. BUT THE BIBLE PREDICTED THAT
52:15 DURING THIS TIME WHEN ROME RECEIVED ITS WOUND, ANOTHER
52:18 CHURCH WOULD BE COMING UP, THE EARTH OPENED HIS MOUTH AND
52:22 HELPED THE WOMAN, REVELATION 12:16, THE EARTH OPENED ITS
52:27 MOUTH AND HELPED THE WOMAN, AND IT SAYS, THE EARTH HELPED THE
52:32 WOMAN, AND THE EARTH OPENED ITS MOUTH AND SWALLOWED UP THE FLOOD
52:39 WHICH THE DRAGON HAD SPEWED OUT OF HIS MOUTH.
52:43 FLOOD BEING PEOPLE. 50 MILLION CHRISTIANS LOST THEIR
52:47 LIVES TO THE TYRANNY OF ROME. AND THE ONLY PLATFORM WAS WE
52:54 WANT THE TRUTH. ROME SAID NO, TRADITION.
52:57 >> AND ONE OF THE GREATEST TRUTHS OF THIS MOVEMENT WAS
53:02 RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. >> YES.
53:04 >> AND UNTIL THAT POINT, YOU ARE SAVED BASICALLY BY THE CHURCH
53:08 AND POWERS THAT BE -- >> RIGHT.
53:11 >> SO THE PROTESTANT MOVEMENT, I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE POINT
53:15 WHERE WE'RE SEEING THE DIFFERENCE IS, IS ONE OF THE
53:18 GREAT THINGS THAT SAYS WHAT BRINGS PROTESTANTS TOGETHER IS
53:25 RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH. >> THE BIBLE AND THE BIBLE ONLY.
53:29 >> OKAY. >> WHICH TODAY HAS KIND OF LOST
53:36 HIS STEAM. >> YES.
53:38 AND NOW EVEN WITHIN THE PROTESTANT RELIGIONS, I'LL SAY,
53:43 OF THE WORLD, SOME OF THOSE SEEM TO HAVE LOST THEIR UNIQUENESS,
53:50 BECAUSE, ONCE AGAIN, FOLLOWING ROME, AND -- AND SO WHENEVER --
53:55 >> I JUST WANT TO SAY QUICKLY, AND THAT'S WHY WHAT JOHN BROUGHT
54:03 OUT BEAUTIFULLY. IN THE NEXT CHAPTER, YOU SEE THE
54:10 NEW BEAST COMING UP WHICH IS THE-pUNITED STATES AND PROPHECY. AND WHEN WE WERE YOUNG, WE USED
54:17 TO WATCH HORROR MOVIES. THE END OF THE WORLD, GIANT
54:23 ANTS, GIANT GRASS HOPPERS. THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IS NOT GOING
54:29 TO BE THE END. BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY
54:33 THAT. BUT PROPHECY GIVES YOU THE
54:36 ASSURANCE OF HOW IT IS GOING TO PLAY OUT.
54:40 WE SEE IN REVELATION 13 A IDENTIFICATION OF THE BEAST, AND
54:46 13:11, HERE COMES THIS LAMB LIKE BEAST COMING UP OUT OF THE
54:52 EARTH, IS IT THE UNITED STATES IN PROPHECY.
54:55 >> AND I WAS TALKING TO THE PERSON I WAS GIVING THE BIBLE
54:59 STUDIES TO, AND IN THE MIDDLE OF LAYING IT OUT, THIS PERSON
55:02 RESPONDED BY SAYIG, I GOT IT. I SEE IT NOW.
55:06 BY UNDERSTANDING BIBLE PROPHECY, THE MODERN TIMES MAKE SENSE.
55:10 WHAT IS HAPENING IN AMERICA. HERE IS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
55:15 WORD PROTESTANT, IT GOT REPLACED WITH THE WORD AK A COUPLISM.
55:25 PROTESTANTISM MELTED AWAY, AND GOT REPLACED WITH THE MOVEMENT
55:32 BACK. >> OKAY.
55:32 THIS PUSH TO COME BACK. SO YOU DON'T FIND THE WORD
55:36 PROTESTANT ANYMORE. >> OKAY.
55:38 >> TONY PALMER TALKED ABOUT THIS MESSAGE TO POPE FRANCIS, HE SAID
55:42 THE PROTEST IS OVER. MARTIN LUTHER HAD 95 REASONS WHY
55:47 HE PROTESTED, NOT JUST ONE. SO THE PROTEST IS NOT OVER, AND
55:52 THERE ARE THOSE WHO STILL BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND THE
55:55 BIBLE ONLY. THE ONLY MAP THAT WILL GET US
55:57 FROM WHERE WE ARE TO WHERE JESUS WANTS US TO BE IN THIS LIFE AND
56:02 THE LIFE TO COME. >> THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS,
56:05 WE CLAIM TO STILL BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE AND THE BILE ONLY, AND
56:10 THEREFORE WE HAVE UNIQUE DIFFERENCES, BUT WE'RE VERY
56:13 WILLING AND OPEN TO DISCUSS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOVE TO DO, AND
56:17 THAT'S WHY WE PUT ON THESE PROGRAMS, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE
56:21 THINGS ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. ONLY A WEEK OR TWO AGO, I MET A
56:25 PROFESSOR, AND HE IS A PROFESSOR AT A GREAT UNIVERSITY
56:29 THAT -- NOT A CHRISTIAN, AND HE HAD READ THE BOOK TEN
56:34 COMMANDMENTS TWICE REMOVED, AND HE SAID WHILE I'M NOT ONE OF
56:38 YOU, OR PART OF YOU, AND HE DIDN'T EVEN SAY IF HE WAS
56:43 CHRISTIAN, HE SAID I USE THIS IN MY STUDIES, I RAN ACROSS IT
56:49 BECAUSE YOU MAKE PROFOUND ARGUMENTS THAT I HAVE NEVER SEEN
56:53 ANYBODY GIVE. AND DO YOU AVE ANY IDEA WHAT
56:57 IMPACT THAT IS MAKING ON THE REST OF THE FOLKS WHO SAY THAT
57:00 ARE CHRISTIANS AND PROTESTANTS, BECAUSE YOU PUT SOME STUFF OUT
57:04 THERE -- I DIDN'T KNOW THIS GUY. I HAD NEVER MET HIM.
57:08 AND HE IS LIKE, YOU ARE DANNY SHELTON.
57:11 MAN, AM I INTERESTED IN -- WHAT A GREAT ARGUMENT.
57:14 AND I SAID I WAS JUST GIVING THE BIBLE, TELLING WHAT THE BIBLE
57:18 SAYS, BUT HE BASICALLY SAID YOU ARE BOXING THESE PEOPLE IN,
57:23 BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SAY THEY ARE PROTESTANT, BUT ON THE OTHER
57:27 HAND, THEY ARE NOT PUTTING ALL OF THEIR BELIEFS ON THE BIBLE.
57:32 AND HE SAID YOU'RE PULLING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
57:34 SO WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND TALK SOME MORE ABOUT THIS, JOHN,
57:38 AND THEN SOME MORE ABOUT THE UNIQUENESS OF THE SEVENTH-DAY
57:44 ADVENTIST CHURCH. AND WE WANT YOU TO STAY TUNED.
57:47 WE'LL BE BACK IN JUSTA MOMENT. ♪


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