¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤-¤
SPEND MY LIFE ¤ ¤ MENDING BROKEN
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PEOPLE ¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND
MY LIFE ¤ ¤ REMOVING PAIN ¤
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¤ LORD LET MY
WORD ¤ ¤ LET MY WORD ¤
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¤ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT
¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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>>> HELLO AND
WELCOME TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
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MY NAME IS CA MURRAY AND IT
IS MY PRIVILEGE AND PLEASURE TO
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WELCOME TO OUR TWO
HOURS SITTING TOGETHER.
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THANK YOU FOR SHARING JUST A
LITTLE OF YOUR NO-DOUBT BUSY DAY
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WITH US. AND
THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING
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WITH US, AS WE SEEK TO DO THE
GREATEST WORK EVER ENTRUSTED TO
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THE FRAIL AND FEEBLE
HANDS OF MEN AND WOMEN.
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SO WHEN WE SY THANK YOU, WE
MEAN IT FROM THE BOTTOM OF OUR
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HEARTS. I'M EXCITED
TONIGHT FOR A NUMBER
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OF REASONS. FOR THE
SUBJECT MATTER, AND I'M
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EXCITED TO HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK
AGAIN WITH OUR GUEST, A PERSON
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WHO I LOVE AND RESPECT GREATLY.
THIS IS PASTOR JOHN BRADSHAW THE
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SPEAKER,
DIRECTOR OF IT IS WRITTEN.
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GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE? >>
CA THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME
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HERE. IT'S SO GOOD TO BE YOU.
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>> I REMEMBER ONE TIME YOU WERE
HERE, AND WE WENT TO A CHINESE
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RESTAURANT. AND WE
TALKING, TALKING, AND
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WHEN WE LOOKED UP, THE CHAIRS
WERE ON THE TABLE AND THE GUY
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WAS WAITING TO CLOSE THE
DOOR. >> WAITING PATIENTLY.
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>> YEAH, WAITING PATIENTLY.
BUT FIRST OF ALL, INTERESTING
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GUY TO TALK TO. HE IS A
CHRISTIAN MAN, AND ALLOW
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ME, JOHN, TO EMBARRASS
YOU, OR AT LEAST RUN THE RISK OF
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EMBARRASSING YOU. I --
I HAPPEN TO BE WHAT SOME
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PEOPLE CALL A
SERMON BIGOT. >> ALL RIGHT.
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>> THERE ARE CERTAIN PEOPLE
WHO -- WHO SERMONS I SEEK AFTER,
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AND WHO'S PREACHING
STYLE APPEALS TO ME.
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AND I UNDERSTAND ANY TIME
SOMEONE GETS UP WITH THE WORDS
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OF THE LORD THERE
IS A BLESSING THERE.
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>> SURE. SURE.
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>> BUT THERE IS SOMETHING TO
DO WITH CRAFT AND PRESENTATION.
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I REMEMBER OUR CONFERENCE
PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT YOU RYIA
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SMITH. >> SURE.
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>> I'M THE KIND OF PERSON WHOS
LIKE MY SERMONS TO KIND OF COME
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AT ME. I LIKE A
LITTLE CAYENNE IN THE
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MESSAGE. I WANT
TO SEE THAT WHAT YOU
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STUDIED HAS -- IS NOT JUST
COMING FROM YOU, BUT COMING
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THROUGH YOU. >> SURE.
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>> SO IF I'M FLIPPING CHANNELS,
AND -- AND I SEE A JOHN BRADSHAW
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THERE, I WILL -- I WILL
STOP. I WILL PAUSE, BECAUSE I'M
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IMPRESSED -- WELL, SEE
YOUR REPUTATION PRECEDES YOU.
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I WAS AT SOUTHERN
UNIVERSITY A FEW YEARS AGO.
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AND A COUPLE CAME TO ME,
AND THEY WEE TALKING ABOUT A
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SERMON. THEY BEGAN
BY SAYING -- YOU HAVE
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A SERMON CALLED ONE
MORE NIGHT WITH THE FROGS.
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>> THAT'S A GREAT TITLE >> YEAH.
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AND IT'S WHEN THE PHARAOH ASKS
MOW CUSS  -- MOSES, WHEN DO YOU
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WANT THE FROGS -- >> SURE.
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>> AND THEY SAID HAVE
YOU HEARD OF JOHN BRADSHAW.
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AND YOU WERE STILL
PASTORING IN WASHINGTON.
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AND THEY SAID YOU HAVE GOT
TO GET THIS GUY ON 3ABN, HE IS
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FABULOUS.-AND THEN ANOTHER
COUPLE CAME AND THEY SAID OUR
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PASTOR IS -- YOU HAVE
GOT TO GET THIS GUY ON 3ABN.
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OH, MAN. SO IT
APPEARED TO BE TWO
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SEPARATE PEOPLE WHO SAW ME.
BUT LATER ON I SAW THEM TALKING
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TO EACH OTHER. >> IT
WAS PROBABLY THOSE PEOPLE
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THAT I GAVE THEM 20
BUCKS TO SAY SOMETHING NICE.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> I
HEARD -- AND I SAID LET'S
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SEE -- AND MAYBE LATER THAT SAME
YEAR YOU CAME TO W AND THEN OF
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COURSE THE WORLD KNEW.
AND LISTENING TO YOU -- I WAS
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DOWN IN PANAMA, AND WE
CAUGHT YOUR SERMON AT GYC.
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>> OH, SURE. >> AND
GOD HAS GIVEN YOU UNIQUE
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COMMUNICATIONS GIFT, AND
WHEN ONE HEARS YOU SPEAK, ONE IS
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IMPRESSED THAT WHAT YOU ARE
LEADING US INTO IS SOMETHING
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THAT YOU HAVE BEEN THROUGH.
YOU ARE TAKING US WHERE YOU HAVE
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BEEN. AND I
APPRECIATE THE CRAFT AND
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THE -- THE -- YOU CAN PREACH AND
YOU CAN TALK, OR YOU CAN GIVE OF
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YOURSELF TO YOUR MESSAGE AND TO
THE MINISTRY OF WHAT YOU ARE TRY
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DOING, THAT'S
WHAT I SEE THROUGH YOU.
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SO WHAT IT IS WORTH, I
APPRECIATE YOUR MINISTRY.
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>> THAT'S KIND, AND
I'M CERTAIN FAR TOO KIND.
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BUT I SEE PREACHING
AS BEING LIFE AND DEATH.
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I REALLY DO. AND I
HAVE HEARD WAY TOO MANY
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SERMONS THAT -- THAT WERE LIFE
AND DEATH BUT SORT OF IN OTHER
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WAYS, LIKE IF I LISTEN TO TOO
MUCH MORE OF THIS, IT'S GOING TO
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FEEL LIKE DEATH. >> UH-HUH.
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>> IF THE BIBLE IS REALLY THE
WORD OF GOD, IT OUGHT TO MOVE A
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PERSON, AND IT MOVES ME.
AND IT'S PROBABLY GOT TO DO
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SOMETHING ABOUT MY
CULTURAL BACKGROUND AND MAYBE MY
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PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND, AND
CERTAINLY MY FAITH BACKGROUND.
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W WASN'T RAISED AS A
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CHRISTIAN -- WELL, NOT RAISED
AS A BIBLE-READING CHRISTIAN.
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I LOVE THIS STUFF. THIS IS LIFE.
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THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
ETERNITY AND NON-ETERNITY.
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THIS BOOK BRINGS A PERSON
TO CHRIST, CONNECTS US TO THE
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SOURCE OF LIFE. I LOVE
WHAT THE BOOK IS ABOUT,
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THE BIBE. I LOVE THE
MESSAGE OF THE BIBLE,
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AND I THINK WAS REALLY
FORTUNATE I CUT MY TEETH ON GOOD
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PREACHING. THE
FIRST PREACHING I EVER
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REALLY HERD MOVED ME. AND
I SAID, THAT'S THE WAY THE
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BIBLE OUGHT TO BE
COMMUNICATED. >> UH-HUH.
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UH-HUH. UH-HUH.
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I GREW UP IN A CULTURAL [
INAUDIBLE ] WAS ADVENTIST, BUT
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THE PASTORS GOT UP AND WORKED
THEMSELVESES INTO A SWEAT.
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>> SURE, YEAH. >> AND
THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I
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AM. I PREACHED
IN NEW ZEALAND AND
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THE FOLK DON'T
TALK BACK TO YOU THERE.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT.
YOU GOT TO WORK THEM.
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>> YOU REALLY HAVE GOT TO WORK.
I REMEMBER PREACHING -- YOU CAN
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TELL THEY ARE GETTING IT,
BECAUSE THEY ARE SITTING FORWARD
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AND PAYING ATTENTION. YOU
HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT THE BODY
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LANGUAGE, BECAUSE YOU ARE
NOT GOING TO GET IT VERBALLY.
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THE FIRST TIME I WAS
THERE -- AND YOU HAVE GOT A
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RHYTHM. AND IN THAT
RHYTHM IS A CALL AND
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RESPOND, THAT'S
HOW I PREACH. >> SURE.
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>> YOU ARE REALLY
EXPECTING AN AMEN.
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>> SURE. >> YOU
JUST WANT TO HEAR IT.
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AND I'M GETTING IT. SO
YOU ARE AMPING IT A LITTLE
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BIT MORE, AND YOU ARE WORKING
YOURSELF INTO A LATHER, AND IT
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IS NOT COMING. AT
THE DOOR THEY WILL TELL
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YOU -- THEY ARE VERY, VERY
KIND WITH THEIR COMPLIMENTS, BUT
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DURING THE MESSAGE
YOU AIN'T GOING TO GET IT.
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>> I WAS YOUNG IN THE FAITH,
I HAD A PREACHING APPOINTMENT AT
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PLACE THAT I MUST NOT TELL YOU
WHERE IT WAS, AND I THOUGHT I'M
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A YOUNG GUY, MAYBE I
PREACHED -- ONE SERMON IN MY
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LIFE, BUT I HAD THIS WONDERFUL
OPPORTUNITY AND IT WAS A REAL
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CHURCH WITH A REAL CONGREGATION.
I THUGHT IT NEEDS TO BE SOLID.
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SO I PREACHED, I THINK THAT
THE THRUST OF IT WAS ABOUT THE
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MESSAGE OF THE FIRST ANGEL.
AND I'M HERE WITH THIS WHOLE
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WHEAT BREAD, MAN, AND IT'S
MOVING ME, AND I'M PREACHING,
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AND -- >> YEAH.
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>> SOMEONE IN THE BACK . . .
I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS A COUGH OR
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AMEN. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> AND I'M UP THERE DYING.
THE PREACHER DOESN'T PREACH FOR
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APPLAUSE, AND WE KNOW THAT,
BUT IF YOU ARE MOVED AND YOU ARE
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COMMUNICATING SOMETHING THAT
YOU BELIEVE IS BETWEEN LIFE AND
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DEATH, YOU WANT TO KNOW THAT
THEIR HEARTS ARE BEATING, YOU
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KNOW? >> YES.
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YES. >> AND I PREACH -- AND I'M
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LOOKING AT THE
CLOCK, LOOKING AT MY NOTES.
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I'M PRAYING THAT THE END WOULD
COME, AND I JUST NEEDED SOMEONE
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TO EUTHANIZE THE
SERMON AND GET IT OVER WITH.
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BUT LANDED THE PLANE,
AND SANG THE OPENING SONG.
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I PROBABLY HELD THE HYMN BOOK UP
LIKE THIS, SO NO ONE COULD SEE
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ME, AND THEN I FELT I WAS
WALKING OUT AS A LAMB GOING TO
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THE SLAUGHTER, BECAUSE I
PREACHED AND THESE FOLKS WERE
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JUST -- JUST NOT
THERE. >> UH-HUH.
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>> AND THE MAN -- YOU SHOULD
STAND THERE YOUNG FELLOW, WAS AS
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FOE HE WAS POSITIONING ME FOR
A FIRING SQUAD, YOU KNOW?-THAT'S
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HOW IT FELT? [ LAUGHTER ]
>> AND I LOOKED UP, AND THEN
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S SOME ELDERLY WOMAN GOT ABOUT 9
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FEET FROM ME AND
LAUNCHED HERSELF AT ME.
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PRAISE GOD FOR YOU!
OH, THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL!
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AND THE CONFERENCE
PRESIDENT HAPPENED TO BE THERE.
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AND HE SAID GOD BLESS YA MAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, I KID A LITTLE
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BIT -- AND KIDDING CAN GET YOU
IN TROUBLE, BUT I HAVE LEARNED
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MAYBE SOME PEOPLE
ARE JUST SCANDINAVIAN.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >>
AND THIS IS EXCITING.
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>> YEAH. YEAH.
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>> THE GERMANIC FOLKS,
THEY ARE MOVED, BUT IT HAPPENS
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INTERNALLY. IT
DOESN'T GET FROM THE HEART TO
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THE FACE. >> UH-HUH.
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UH-HUH. >> AND NOW
WE PEACH AND WHATEVER
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COMES BACK COMES BACK.
SOMEONE DESCRIBED PREACHING ONCE
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AS BEING TRUTH
THROUGH PERSONALITY.
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SO I THINK THERE OUGHT TO BE
A LITTLE BIT -- PREACHING SHOULD
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BE SOMEWHAT SELF REGULATORY,
IF IT'S GOING TO BE GENUINE AND
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TRUE. >> AGREED.
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>> SO I -- I BELIEVE -- I SPEAK
TO YOUNG PREACHERS, ASPIRING
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PREACHERS, MINISTERIAL STUDENTS.
I TELL THEM, THERE'S NO EXCUSE
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FOR NOT BEING A GREAT PREACHER.
SOMEONE WHO IS USED BY GOD TO
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MOVE PEOPLE
THROUGH THE WORD OF GOD.
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PREACHING SHOULD BE DYNAMIC.
IT DOESN'T ALL HAVE TO BE LOUD.
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>> RIGHT >> WHEN I
WORE A YOUNGER MAN'S
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CLOTHES, I WAS LISTENING
TO A FELLOW MAN'S PREACHING.
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IT WAS AS THOUGH HE WAS BATTLING
INDIGESTION THE ENTIRE HE WAS
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SPEAKING. YOU
KNOW HOW PEOPLE SAY I
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REMEMBER EVERY WORD? >> RIGHT.
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>> WELL, I DON'T. BUT
I REMEMBER LOTS OF THE
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WORDS. SO HE DID
NOT WORK HIMSELF UP
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INTO A SWEAT, YOU KNOW? >> HUM.
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>> HE PROBABLY WORKED
HIMSELF UP INTO A SHIVER.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >>
WE'LL TAKE THAT SHIVER.
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>> BUT IT WAS A DYNAMIC SERMON,
BECAUSE HE LET THE WORD OF GOD
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SPEAK AND HE COMMUNICATED THE
WORD OF GOD, SO IF WE LET THE
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BIBLE SPEAK AND WE FIND THE
ESSENCE IN IT, AND COMMUNICATE
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THAT MESSAGE,
IT'S DYNAMIC. >> IT IS.
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>> EVERY SERMON SHOULD BE A
HOME-RUN. I DON'T PREACH FOR 
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BASICS. >> YEAH, I HAVE COME
DOWN WHEN I THOUGHT I STRUCK
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OUT. >> THAT'S RIGHT. AND
AGAIN, THERE'S A LINE THERE.
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YOU DONE WANT TO
PREACH FOR THE APPLAUSE.
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THAT'S REALLY, REALY DANGEROUS,
BUT YOU WANT TO KNOW THE PEOPLE
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YOU ARE MINISTERING TO
HAVE BEEN MINISTERED TO.
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THAT SOMEONE HAS BEEN TOUCHED
AND BLESSED AND A HEART HAS BEEN
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MOVED, BECAUSE
THAT'S WHY WE'RE THERE.
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THERE ARE ENGINEERS AND
PHYSICIANS -- AND THE REASON I
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PICK ON THOSE FOLKS OR USE THEM
AS AN EXAMPLE -- THEIR TIME IS
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REALLY VALUABLE. >> YES.
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>> AND A PREACHER SHOULD BE
THINKING TO HIM OR HERSELF, I
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HAVE AN ENGINEER HERE
WHO'S TIME IS WORTH X.
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THIS PERSON IS SPENDING
THEIR TIME HERE IN CHURCH.
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IT OUGHT TO BE VALUABLE TO
THEM. THEY OUGHT TO GO AWAY WITH
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SOMETHING.
CHALLENGE THEM, BLESS THEM,
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ENCOURAGE THEM, DO ALL OF THAT
IN ONE, AND NOT -- NOT THAT AN
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ENGINEER'S TIME IS ANYMORE
VALUABLE THAN THE SANITATION
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WORKER'S TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW,
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT,
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TIME IS VALUABLE
FOR THESE PEOPLE.
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THEY GOT OUT OF BED, DROVE
ACROSS TOWN, SOME OF THEM DROVE
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AN HOUR AND A HALF, AND
THE FOCAL POINT IS THE MESSAGE.
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FEED THEM SOMETHING. >>
MY BURDEN HAS ALWAYS BEEN CAN
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I TAKE THEM TO GET THEM
TO SEE WHAT I HAVE SEEN.
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>> YES. >> YOU ARE
A TECHNICIAN AS GOOD
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A PULPITEER. THE
INTERSECTION SECTION BETWEEN
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ONE'S TECHNICAL SKILLS,
AND SURRENDER -- IN OTHER
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WORDS -- IS IT NOT MY JOB TO DO
THE BEST I CAN, TECHNICALLY TO
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PREPARE, TO STUDY, AND THEN NOT
JUST RELY ON THAT, BUT SURRENDER
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THAT, AND THE BLESSING COMES AT
THE INTERSECTION OF ME DOING MY
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BEST. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> IF I'M SLOPPY AND RELY ALL
ON GOD, THEN I'M DEFRAUDING MY
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CALLING. >> YES, YOU ARE.
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THE BIBLE SAYS THAT
GOD HAS GIVEN YOUR TALENT.
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GOD HAS GIVEN YOU ABILITIES THAT
ARE TO BE USED FOR HIS GLORY.
00:15:06.63\00:15:11.11
THE MUSICIAN PRACTICES AND DOES
HER BEST AS SHE PLACE THE PIANO,
00:15:11.11\00:15:17.88
OR HE THE TRUMPET, WE OUGHT
TO BE GIVING GOD OUR BEST, AND
00:15:17.88\00:15:23.05
THINK BACK ON THE SERMONS
AND THINK, HOW COULD I HAVE
00:15:23.05\00:15:27.52
COMMUNICATED THAT MORE CLEARLY?
I DIDN'T NEED TO USE THAT
00:15:27.52\00:15:30.93
PHRASE. I LOST
SOME PEOPLE THERE.
00:15:30.93\00:15:32.46
>> UH-HUH. >> WE
HAVE TO GIVE OUR VERY BEST
00:15:32.46\00:15:36.26
AND WORK AT IT. >> YES.
00:15:36.26\00:15:39.30
IMPROVE YOUR CRAFT, AND
THEN SURRENDER TO JESUS.
00:15:39.30\00:15:43.71
>> THAT'S RIGHT. WE --
WE READ ABOUT THE ART OF
00:15:43.71\00:15:46.94
PREACHING. IT IS AN ART.
00:15:46.94\00:15:48.11
IT IS AN ART. >> UH-HUH.
00:15:48.11\00:15:51.15
UH-HUH. >> I'M
CONVINCED THAT NOT NEARLY
00:15:51.15\00:15:53.45
ENOUGH PREACHERS
TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
00:15:53.45\00:15:55.65
>> HUM. >> I'M
CONVINCED OF THAT, I HAVE
00:15:55.65\00:15:58.55
HEARD THEM, AND I HAVE THOUGHT
YOU DIDN'T TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY.
00:15:58.55\00:16:03.26
YOU HAVE 30, 35, 40, 45,
WHATEVER, MINUTES TO FEED THE
00:16:03.26\00:16:09.43
SHEEP TO OFFER HOPE, TO
UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN
00:16:09.43\00:16:12.60
THAT MOMENT, THAT PEOPLE ARE
DANGLING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN LIFE
00:16:12.60\00:16:15.87
AND DEATH WHEN
THEY COME TO CHURCH.
00:16:15.87\00:16:17.64
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
YOU HAVE GOT TO HELP THEM
00:16:17.64\00:16:20.18
TO SEE JESUS AND THE REVELATION
OF THE LOVE AND THE GOODNESS AND
00:16:20.18\00:16:24.91
POWER OF GOD TO HELP
THEM TO SEE THEIR WORTH.
00:16:24.91\00:16:27.85
IT'S NOT OUR -- IT'S NOT OUR
TECHNICAL EXCEL LENS MAKES THE
00:16:27.85\00:16:38.39
DIFFERENCE, IT'S THE WORK OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT MAKES THE
00:16:38.39\00:16:42.93
DIFFERENCE. >> YES.
00:16:42.93\00:16:43.67
>> YOU PREACH ABOUT
THE LOE OF GOD, LET'S SAY.
00:16:43.67\00:16:46.94
AND SOMEONE SAYS TO YOU AT THE
DOOR, YOU KNOW, IT WAS WHEN YOU
00:16:46.94\00:16:51.44
TALKED ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD
FORGIVE OTHER PEOPLE, OH, THAT
00:16:51.44\00:16:54.74
REALLY GOT
THROUGH TO ME. >> YEAH.
00:16:54.74\00:16:57.41
>> AND YOU STAND THERE AND YOU
ARE THINKING, BUT I NEVER SAID
00:16:57.41\00:17:02.12
THAT. I DIDN'T GO
ANYWHERE NEAR THAT.
00:17:02.12\00:17:05.29
SOMETIMES I THINK
IT'S THE SPIRIT OF GOD.
00:17:05.29\00:17:08.22
PEOPLE HEAR WHAT YOU DIDN'T
SAY. THAT WORKS AGAINST YOU TOO.
00:17:08.22\00:17:11.96
BUT GOD MINISTERS TO PEOPLE,
MEETS THEIR NEEDS, AND WHAT WE
00:17:11.96\00:17:16.50
ARE AS PREACHERS ARE JUST
ELSE HAVES FOR GOD TO WORK
00:17:16.50\00:17:21.90
THROUGH -- >> AGREED.
00:17:21.90\00:17:26.04
>> SO -- JUST RECENTLY WE HELD
A CITY-WIDE SERIES OF SERMONS IN
00:17:26.04\00:17:33.31
BOSTON,
MASSACHUSETTS. IT WAS WONDERFUL.
00:17:33.31\00:17:39.45
AND I WOMAN GOT BACK TO ME, AND
SHE SAID WHEN I SPOKE ABOUT HOW
00:17:39.45\00:17:44.23
GOD LOVES YOU AND ACCEPTS
YOU -- SHE SAID WHEN YOU SAID
00:17:44.23\00:17:50.93
THAT -- BECAUSE SHE
WEPT AND WEPT AND WEPT IN THE
00:17:50.93\00:17:58.07
CONGREGATION. THERE
IS REAL POWER IN THE WORD
00:17:58.07\00:18:00.78
OF GOD. GOD LOVES YOU.
00:18:00.78\00:18:02.98
GOD ACCEPTS YOU. GOD IS
NOT GOING TO CONDEMN YOU.
00:18:02.98\00:18:07.88
THERE ARE
PEOPLE WITH DEEP NEEDS.
00:18:07.88\00:18:09.95
THEY HAVE WALKED THE
PATH THEY HAVE WALKED.
00:18:09.95\00:18:13.19
AND TO SEE GOD
TOUCH PEOPLE'S LIVES.
00:18:13.19\00:18:16.09
SOMEONE WALKS IN WITHOUT
HOPE AND WALK OUT WITH HOPE.
00:18:16.09\00:18:21.13
THIS IS WHAT WE
PRAY FOR. >> AMEN.
00:18:21.13\00:18:25.50
>> IT'S A
WONDERFUL THING. >> IT IS.
00:18:25.50\00:18:28.74
OUR SUBJECT MATTER IS JESUS AND
JUDGMENT, WHICH I PROMISE WE'RE
00:18:28.74\00:18:33.34
GOING TO GET TO. BUT WE
DON'T GET TO TALK TO YOU
00:18:33.34\00:18:37.48
MUCH. GIVE US
SOME FLAVOR OF WHAT IS
00:18:37.48\00:18:40.02
GOING ON WITH IW. I
WAS WATCHING YOU AT HOME AT
00:18:40.02\00:18:45.69
THE RIVER. GIVE US
SOME FLAVOR OF WHAT IS
00:18:45.69\00:18:48.49
GOING ON RIGHT NOW? >>
THE MINISTRY IS GROWING, THAT
00:18:48.49\00:18:51.93
IS BECAUSE THERE
IS JUST A LOT TO DO.
00:18:51.93\00:18:55.60
PRIMARILY WE ARE CONTENT
PRODUCERS FOR TELEVISION AND THE
00:18:55.60\00:18:58.97
INTERNET, SO WE CONTINUE TO
PRODUCE PROGRAMMING IN ENGLISH
00:18:58.97\00:19:03.71
AND IN SPANISH, AND OUR
DEVOTIONAL IN SIGN LANGUAGE,
00:19:03.71\00:19:08.34
WHICH WE JUST LOVE, AMERICAN
SIGN LANGUAGE, SO THAT IS A
00:19:08.34\00:19:15.08
BLESSING. WHAT WE
HAVE FOCUSED ON AS MUCH
00:19:15.08\00:19:17.55
AS POSSIBLE A
FILMING ON LOCATION.
00:19:17.55\00:19:21.09
WE'LL FILM A
PROGRAM WHILE I'M SOMEWHERE.
00:19:21.09\00:19:24.46
IT DAWNED ON ME EARLY THAT WE
CAN GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY
00:19:24.46\00:19:28.66
TO LOOK AT ME
FOR 28.5 MINUTES --
00:19:28.66\00:19:32.90
[ LAUGHTER ] >>
SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD
00:19:32.90\00:19:35.34
DEAL. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:19:35.34\00:19:36.24
>> YOU KNOW? BUT I
THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND
00:19:36.24\00:19:39.34
THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, AS GOOD AS
THAT IS, WHAT IF THEY COULD SEE
00:19:39.34\00:19:44.61
ME AND THE EIFFEL TOWER? >> YES.
00:19:44.61\00:19:47.85
>> OR ME AND -- YOU KNOW, LESS
OF ME AND MORE OF FASCINATING
00:19:47.85\00:19:57.16
THINGS THAT TO LOOK AT.
SO WE HAVE PRODUCED LOCATION
00:19:57.16\00:20:01.06
PROGRAMS AT THE EIFFEL TOWER AND
THE PALACE, AND PRAGUE, COSTA
00:20:01.06\00:20:10.51
RICA, FRANCE, NEW ZEALAND, AND
SCOTLAND RECENTLY, AND THAT'S
00:20:10.51\00:20:14.21
BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO
BE IN THESE PLACES ANYWAY.
00:20:14.21\00:20:17.48
SOMEONE INVITED ME TO A
CONVENTION RECENTLY IN THE CZECH
00:20:17.48\00:20:22.45
REPUBLIC. AND I WAS HAPPY TO GO.
00:20:22.45\00:20:24.49
A FRIEND ASKED AND SO FORTH.
I LOOKED AT THE MAP, AND IT WAS
00:20:24.49\00:20:30.59
VERY NEAR KRAKOW, POLAND, AND,
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STORY THERE.
00:20:30.59\00:20:37.97
[ INAUDIBLE ] WAS THE ARCHBISHOP
OF KRAKOW WAS BEFORE HE BECAME
00:20:37.97\00:20:46.84
POPE. AND THERE'S
A STORY THERE, YOU
00:20:46.84\00:20:49.64
KNOW? >> UH-HUH.
00:20:49.64\00:20:50.31
>> SO WE CAME BACK WITH A GREAT
PROGRAM FROM KRAKOW BECAUSE WE
00:20:50.31\00:20:55.82
JUST HAPPENED TO BE
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
00:20:55.82\00:20:58.32
>> UH-HUH. >> MY
PLACE WITH JESUS IS BEIG
00:20:58.32\00:21:03.49
REBOOTED TO
CHILDREN. CAMERA IS TECHNOLOGY.
00:21:03.49\00:21:06.66
BUT WE HAVE GOT INTO VR --
360 DEGREES VIRTUAL REALITY.
00:21:06.66\00:21:13.57
SO WE HAVE HAD MADE SOME
LOVELY PROGRAMS FOR KIDS.
00:21:13.57\00:21:17.34
YOU PUT ON THE GOGGLES, AND YOU
SEE THE LION'S DEN AND YOU LOOK
00:21:17.34\00:21:23.95
ARK -- AROUND AND
THERE IS THE CEILING.
00:21:23.95\00:21:28.08
WE HAVE HAD EYES FOR
INDIA GOING FOR QUITE SOMETIME.
00:21:28.08\00:21:38.16
AND TO HAVE SOMEONE COMPLETELY
BLIND, AND TO HAVE THEM SEE TWO
00:21:38.16\00:21:43.57
DAYS LATER BECAUSE
THEY HAD CATARACT SURGERY.
00:21:43.57\00:21:51.07
>> UH-HUH. >> JUST
FOR A FEW BUCKS SOMEONE
00:21:51.07\00:21:54.88
CAN SEE. THEY WERE
BLIND AND NOW THEY CAN
00:21:54.88\00:21:57.91
SEE. SO MEDICAL
MISSIONARY WORK IS
00:21:57.91\00:22:00.42
SOMETHING WE
BELIEVE IN, AND WE LOVE.
00:22:00.42\00:22:02.22
WE GO TO -- I'LL
BE QUICK WITH US.
00:22:02.22\00:22:04.65
WE GO TO MONGOLIA SOON.
WE'LL HAVE A TEAM OF 100 MEDICAL
00:22:04.65\00:22:12.66
PERSONNEL WITH US. THIS
IS A COUNTRY THAT IS 2.5%
00:22:12.66\00:22:18.60
CHRISTIAN. >> YEAH.
00:22:18.60\00:22:19.30
>> IN THE SQUARE I
APPROACHED SOME YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:22:19.30\00:22:21.90
HAVE YOU EVER
HEARD OF ADAM AND EVE?
00:22:21.90\00:22:25.54
NO. HAVE YOU EVER
HEARD OF DAVID AND
00:22:25.54\00:22:31.11
GOLIATH? THEY START TO GIGGLE.
00:22:31.11\00:22:32.85
NO WHO ARE THEY? WHAT
DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BIBLE
00:22:32.85\00:22:36.28
IN ONE GIRL, SHE SAID -- THE
BIBLE IS A MORAL BOOK, IT SPEAKS
00:22:36.28\00:22:41.56
OF JESUS. HEY,
WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE.
00:22:41.56\00:22:45.93
IT'S ALL ONE OF THEM KNEW, THE
IGNORANCE IS BREATHTAKING -- THE
00:22:45.93\00:22:51.93
BIBLICAL IGNORANCE.
IT'S A WONDERFUL CHURCH.
00:22:51.93\00:22:55.70
IT IS VERY WELL RUN.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE.
00:22:55.70\00:22:59.44
THERE WERE NO CHRISTIANS
IN MONGOLIA UNTIL 1991, NONE.
00:22:59.44\00:23:05.71
SO THAT IS A
WONDERFUL, FUN THING.
00:23:05.71\00:23:08.98
NEXT MONTH WE'RE GOING TO BE
IN MOLDOVA FOR THE TOTAL MEMBER
00:23:08.98\00:23:13.89
INVOLVEMENT PROJECT. >>
WE'RE GOING TO BE IN ROMANIA.
00:23:13.89\00:23:17.09
>> RIGHT NEXT DOOR. >> YEAH.
00:23:17.09\00:23:19.66
>> RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
MOLDOVA IS THE POOREST COUNTRY
00:23:19.66\00:23:23.37
IN EUROPE. IF YOU
DOUBLE THE GDP IT IS
00:23:23.37\00:23:27.60
STILL THE POUREST
COUNTRY IN EUROPE.
00:23:27.60\00:23:30.24
>> HUM. >> I'LL BE
THERE FOR A SHORT-ISH
00:23:30.24\00:23:34.81
TIME. DO SOME
PRESENT TAKES, AND FILM.
00:23:34.81\00:23:37.05
>> AND FILM. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:23:37.05\00:23:38.91
>> YEAH, I HAVE BEEN WANTING FOR
SOMETIME TO DO PROGRAMS ABOUT
00:23:38.91\00:23:43.55
HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
MOLDOVA, AVERAGE MONTHLY WAGE,
00:23:43.55\00:23:52.46
$230 A MONTH. SO IT
DAWNS ON PEOPLE PRETTY
00:23:52.46\00:23:55.86
QUICKLY, I COULD MAKE A LOT MORE
MONEY THAN THAT IF I . . . AND
00:23:55.86\00:24:01.74
THE PEOPLE THERE ARE TRAFFICKED
NOT JUST IN THE SEX TRADE BUT AS
00:24:01.74\00:24:06.31
SLAVES. >> UH-HUH.
00:24:06.31\00:24:07.18
>> REAL SLAVES.
THEY GO TO TURKEY.
00:24:07.18\00:24:09.28
THEY GO TO RUSSIA
TO BE OWNED SLAVED.
00:24:09.28\00:24:13.18
SO THERE'S A LOT
OF PROGRAMS THERE.
00:24:13.18\00:24:17.19
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SLAVERY
OF SIN AND FREEDOM THROUGH JESUS
00:24:17.19\00:24:21.42
CHRIST. THE SON OF
GOD MAKES YOU FREE.
00:24:21.42\00:24:24.13
YOU SHALL BE FREE, INDEED, AND
THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS T DO
00:24:24.13\00:24:28.06
AS WELL. WE HAVE
IDEAS A LIST THIS LONG,
00:24:28.06\00:24:32.70
AND ONLY SO MUCH
TIME. >> ONE OR TWO CAMERAS?
00:24:32.70\00:24:36.30
>> YEAH. THAT'S
INTERESTING YOU SHULD
00:24:36.30\00:24:38.41
MENTION THAT. TWO CAMERAS.
00:24:38.41\00:24:41.11
SOMETIMES ONE. >> UH-HUH.
00:24:41.11\00:24:42.71
>> ONE MAKES IT A LOT OF
WORK FOR THE CAMERA PERSON.
00:24:42.71\00:24:46.88
SOMETIMES WE'LL
HIRE THE LOCAL GUY.
00:24:46.88\00:24:51.52
THERE IS NO
TELEPROMPTER, SO I HAVE MY iPAD.
00:24:51.52\00:24:56.66
I TUCK IT IN THE BACK OF MY
PANTS AS I TALK TO THE CAMERA.
00:24:56.66\00:25:02.96
BUT IT'S ANOTHER PERON. >> YEAH.
00:25:02.96\00:25:05.53
>> IT'S MORE TRAVEL AND
ACCOMMODATION AND EQUIPMENT, AND
00:25:05.53\00:25:10.27
YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOW UP TO A
PLACE ON LOCATION, LOOKING LIKE
00:25:10.27\00:25:14.68
STEVEN SPIELBERG IS IN TOWN.
>> YOU WANT IT TO HAVE A RUSTIC
00:25:14.68\00:25:20.55
EARTHY FEEL TO IT. >>
IT JUST CLOSES A LOT OF
00:25:20.55\00:25:23.59
DOORS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
00:25:23.59\00:25:26.12
AND PLACES WHERE WE NEED TO GET
PERMISSION, WE GET PERMISSION,
00:25:26.12\00:25:30.33
ARPLACES WHERE YOU DON'T
NEED PERMISSION, OR CAN GET AWAY
00:25:30.33\00:25:34.46
WITHOUT IT, YOU DON'T
WANT TO JUMP THROUGH HOOPS.
00:25:34.46\00:25:40.40
SO THAT'S IS BENEFIT.
BECAUSE IF IT'S TOO SCRIPTED, IT
00:25:40.40\00:25:43.71
WILL SOUND LIKE
THAT. >> I DO TOO.
00:25:43.71\00:25:46.68
I SAID TO IRMA, HE HAS
THAT STUFF IN HIS HEAD.
00:25:46.68\00:25:54.55
>> UH-HUH. >> TO
PRAISE THE LORD THAT IS
00:25:54.55\00:25:57.09
COMING OUT OF YOUR
HEAD AND YOUR HEART.
00:25:57.09\00:25:59.52
>> SO WE DO A VERY
STRIPPED-DOWN CREW.
00:25:59.52\00:26:02.82
WE KEEP THE COST
AT A BARE MINIMUM.
00:26:02.82\00:26:05.73
AND THE BEST TIME OF THE DAY TO
FILM RIGHT AROUND SUNRISE, AND
00:26:05.73\00:26:12.57
RIGHT AROUND SUNSET
WHEN THE LIGHT IS BEAUTIFUL.
00:26:12.57\00:26:15.54
SO IT'S A VERY EARLY
START, AND A VERY LATE FINISH.
00:26:15.54\00:26:20.61
SO WE PUT A LOT
OF ENERGY INTO THAT.
00:26:20.61\00:26:22.84
WE STILL FILM IN
THE STUDIO, OF COURSE.
00:26:22.84\00:26:25.91
WE CAN'T DO
EVERYTHING ON LOCATION.
00:26:25.91\00:26:28.08
>> LIKE THE LOCATION STUFF.
>> YOU SEE, THAT'S WHAT I HEAR
00:26:28.08\00:26:31.65
BACK. PEOPLE --
WE HAVE GOT TO DO
00:26:31.65\00:26:33.82
TALKING HEADS, AND THAT'S FINE,
BUT AS OFTEN AS WE CAN -- AND
00:26:33.82\00:26:37.36
THE OTHER THING.
WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT?
00:26:37.36\00:26:42.56
EVANGELISM. OUR NEW
BIBLE STUDIES ARE FUN.
00:26:42.56\00:26:44.97
OUR BIBLE -- I'M GOING
TO TELL YOU TWO MORE THINGS.
00:26:44.97\00:26:48.57
WE WANTED TO DO MAILERS
TO INVITE PEOPLE TO DO BIBLE
00:26:48.57\00:26:53.81
STUDIES, RIGHT IN
PREPARATION FOR MEETING.
00:26:53.81\00:26:55.78
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
IT CAME BACK FROM THE
00:26:55.78\00:26:58.75
PRINTER TOO BIG, SO IT WAS
GOING TO COST MORE TO MAIL OUT.
00:26:58.75\00:27:01.82
>> HUM. >> SO WE
DID THE CALCULATIONS.
00:27:01.82\00:27:05.82
DO WE THROW THEM IN THE TRASH
AND REPRINT AND PAY LESS FOR
00:27:05.82\00:27:10.63
POSTAGE AND LOSE THAT MONEY
OR JUST PAY MORE FOR POSTAGE?
00:27:10.63\00:27:15.03
SO WE SAID, WE'LL
PAY MORE FOR POSTAGE.
00:27:15.03\00:27:20.10
MAN, WE GOT BACK --
ONE PER THOUSAND IS OKAY.
00:27:20.10\00:27:24.01
TWO PER THOUSAND IS PRETTY GOOD.
THREE PER THOUSAND, AS MY FRIEND
00:27:24.01\00:27:30.75
TOM SAID, HALLELUJAH. AND
SOMETIMES YOU CAN GET MORE.
00:27:30.75\00:27:35.02
WE'RE AVERAGING 10 PER
THOUSAND. >> THAT'S EXACTLY.
00:27:35.02\00:27:38.09
>> WE HAVE HAD 31,
24, 36 PER THOUSAND.
00:27:38.09\00:27:42.52
SO IT IS WRITTEN BIBLE SCHOOL.
IF THERE IS A CHURCH THAT WANTS
00:27:42.52\00:27:46.93
TO GET ON BOARD, A REALLY
EFFECTIVE BIBLE SCHOOL THAT IS
00:27:46.93\00:27:49.80
GOING TO REACH LOTS OF PEOPLE
IN THE COMMUNITY, I HOPE PEOPLE
00:27:49.80\00:27:53.84
WILL GIVE US A CALL.
BUT WE'RE HOLDING MEETINGS,
00:27:53.84\00:27:57.44
MEETINGS, MEETINGS. WE
HAVE LARGE MEETINGS COMING UP
00:27:57.44\00:28:04.51
IN PHOENIX AND INDIANAPOLIS,
AND SMALLER PLACES.
00:28:04.51\00:28:08.48
BUT WE WANT TO DO WHATEVER WE
CAN TO REACH AS MANY PEOPLE AS
00:28:08.48\00:28:13.36
WE CAN. >> PRAISE THE LORD.
00:28:13.36\00:28:15.19
WHEN YOU ARE DOING A
MASS MAILING, IF YOU GET ONE
00:28:15.19\00:28:21.60
RESPONSE, OR ONE PERSON IN
YOUR MEETING PER 1,000 PIECES OF
00:28:21.60\00:28:25.37
LITERATURE, YOU HAVE
GIVEN, THAT IS CONSIDERED --
00:28:25.37\00:28:28.50
>> PAR FOR THE COURSE. >>
THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE.
00:28:28.50\00:28:31.97
SO IF YOU SEND OUT
10,000, AND YOU GET 10.
00:28:31.97\00:28:34.71
YOU PRAISE THE LORD. >> YEAH.
00:28:34.71\00:28:36.91
>> BUT IF YOU GET 30 OR 40, YOU
ARE REALLY ABOVE THE CURVE, SO
00:28:36.91\00:28:41.58
WE IS GIVING YOU
NUMBERS THAT ARE FANTASTIC.
00:28:41.58\00:28:44.25
>> YEAH, AND THIS IS FOR THE
BIBLE STUDIES, AND IT IS GOOD.
00:28:44.25\00:28:48.22
AND OF COURSE
IT VARIES. >> SURE.
00:28:48.22\00:28:51.16
>> BUT WHAT THIS COMES BACK TO
FOR MEETINGS -- I DON'T WANT TO
00:28:51.16\00:28:56.03
GET OFF TRACK --
I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THIS.
00:28:56.03\00:28:59.23
WE WERE IN ZIMBABWE LAST YEAR.
AND WE HAD TEN MEETINGS IN ONE
00:28:59.23\00:29:06.34
CITY. AND OH, CA
WE FILMED A PROGRAM
00:29:06.34\00:29:08.94
THERE AT A LION PARK, WHERE I
GOT TO WALK WITH A LION, WALKING
00:29:08.94\00:29:14.12
ALONG HOLDING
THE LION BY THE TAIL.
00:29:14.12\00:29:16.22
A REAL LION, NOT A PIT, AND
THE PROGRAM LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
00:29:16.22\00:29:22.76
THE PROGRAM -- I CAN'T WAIT
TO SHOW YOU, IT -- IT JUST LOOKS
00:29:22.76\00:29:27.00
GREAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S
LOVELY. WHERE WAS I GOING?
00:29:27.00\00:29:30.67
YES, EVANGELISM, SO THE PEOPLE
COMING OUT, RIGHT, NOT ALL OF
00:29:30.67\00:29:36.04
THE TOWN -- THE MAN WHO WAS
COORDINATED THE SITE, THE PASTOR
00:29:36.04\00:29:42.58
WHO IS THE SECTARIAN OF THE
CONFERENCE, I ASKED HIM ABOT
00:29:42.58\00:29:48.22
THE CROWD. HE SAID
WE HAVE PEOPLE GOING OUT
00:29:48.22\00:29:51.99
INTO THE COMMUNITY,
INVITING PEOPLE TO COME.
00:29:51.99\00:29:56.66
GOOD. HOW MANY?
00:29:56.66\00:29:57.49
AND HE SAID 32. AND I
WAS ABOUT TO SAY PRAISE
00:29:57.49\00:30:03.33
GOD FOR 32 PEOPLE GOING OUT INTO
THE COMMUNITY, BUT HE WENT ON,
00:30:03.33\00:30:09.17
TEAMS OF 3. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:30:09.17\00:30:11.04
>> PRAISE THE LORD. THAT'S
GREAT.->> NOW -- NOW, I KNOW
00:30:11.04\00:30:15.58
THERE IS SOMEONE WATCHED AND
SAYING YEAH, WE MAILED OUT OUR
00:30:15.58\00:30:22.25
THESE HANDBILL INVIALATIONS, AND
WE ONLY GOT .9 PER THOUSAND, OR
00:30:22.25\00:30:27.86
1.2 PER THOUSAND. I
KNOW PEOPLE SAY, AH, BUT
00:30:27.86\00:30:30.13
THAT'S AFRICA. YES, YES, TRUE.
00:30:30.13\00:30:33.60
DIFFERENT PLACE, BUT HOW DO YOU
THINK THAT XYZ CHURCH WOULD GET
00:30:33.60\00:30:41.54
ON WITH EVANGELISTIC MEETINGS,
KNOCKING ON DOORS, SAYING WOULD
00:30:41.54\00:30:51.18
YOU LIKE TO COME? DO YOU
THINK WE WOULD DO BETTER?
00:30:51.18\00:30:54.68
>> OH, SURE. >>
OF COURSE WE WOULD.
00:30:54.68\00:30:57.85
SO WE WANT TO INVITE PEOPLE TO
COME, AND WHEN YOU DO, IT MAKES
00:30:57.85\00:31:02.36
A DIFFERENCE. TELL YOU A STORY.
00:31:02.36\00:31:03.96
>> UH-HUH. >>
BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS.
00:31:03.96\00:31:07.23
IT IS WRITTEN WE HAVE AN
EVANGELISM TRAINING SCHOOL
00:31:07.23\00:31:12.90
CALLED SALT. IT IS FANTASTIC.
00:31:12.90\00:31:15.37
IT'S TERRIFIC. BUT
WE WERE IN BOSTON, SO WE
00:31:15.37\00:31:19.37
DIDN'T HAVE OUR
SALT STUDENTS UP THERE.
00:31:19.37\00:31:21.14
INSTEAD WE WERE WORKING WITH THE
STUDENTS FROM NETS, NORTHEAST
00:31:21.14\00:31:28.32
EVANGELISM TRAINING SCHOOL
RUN BY KEVIN -- KEVIN IS A GREAT
00:31:28.32\00:31:32.19
GUY. >> ON THE CAMPUS --
00:31:32.19\00:31:34.26
>> AUC. >> YEAH.
00:31:34.26\00:31:36.39
>> WE MET A LADY,
GAVE HER THE SURVEY.
00:31:36.39\00:31:39.63
WE'RE DOING A COMMUNITY SURVEY.
ASKED ABOUT SPECIALAL INTERESTS.
00:31:39.63\00:31:49.17
WOULD YOU BE
INTERESTED IN BIBLE STUDIES?
00:31:49.17\00:31:51.94
YES. SO THEY
SCHEDULED BIBLE STUDIES
00:31:51.94\00:31:53.84
WITH HER, AND THEY
REALLY MINISTERED TO HER.
00:31:53.84\00:31:57.75
SHE TOLD ME THIS
ACROSS THE TABLE.
00:31:57.75\00:31:59.88
I'LL CUT A LONG STORY
SHORT. TERRIBLE UPBRINGING.
00:31:59.88\00:32:07.99
DRUNKEN FATHER. HE
DIED WHEN SHE WAS YOUNG.
00:32:07.99\00:32:11.66
TERRIBLE MOTHER.
THE DAD INJURED HER.
00:32:11.66\00:32:16.90
REJECTED BY HER FAMILY.
YOU THINK OF A LOW-EN PERSON,
00:32:16.90\00:32:21.20
YOUR TYPICAL LOOSER. NO,
SHE'S A FINE PERSON, JUST
00:32:21.20\00:32:25.74
ROUGH LIFE. >> YEAH.
00:32:25.74\00:32:28.28
YEAH. >> WE
SHOULD ALWAYS CONSIDER
00:32:28.28\00:32:29.78
PEOPLE FINE PEOPLE,
BUT SHE WAS A FINE PERSON.
00:32:29.78\00:32:33.48
SHE DECIDED SHE HAD
NOTHING TO LIVE FOR.
00:32:33.48\00:32:36.85
SHE WENT TO THE HARDWARE STORE
AND BOUGHT EVERYTHING SHE NEEDED
00:32:36.85\00:32:42.39
TO END HER LIFE. SHE
SAT DOWN IN HER CHAIR AND
00:32:42.39\00:32:48.23
SAID, WELL, I GUESS
I'LL GET ON WITH IT.
00:32:48.23\00:32:51.97
AND THEN THE CATS JUMPED ON
HER. AND SHE SAID WHAT IS THIS?
00:32:51.97\00:32:56.10
AND THEN SHE REMEMBERED HER
UPBRINGING AS A ROMAN CATHOLIC,
00:32:56.10\00:33:00.24
AND SHE SAID GOD WOULDN'T BE
-PLEASED WITH ME IF I DID THIS.
SHE SAID I WON'T DO IT.
00:33:00.24\00:33:05.75
RIGHT AFTER THAT -- AND IN A
MOMENT -- LIKE A DAY AFTER THAT,
00:33:05.75\00:33:09.72
THE KNOCK AT THE DOOR. >> HUM.
00:33:09.72\00:33:15.92
>> SHE SAID I HAD NOTHING. I
WAS GOING TO END MY LIFE, BUT
00:33:15.92\00:33:20.46
YOU PEOPLE LOVED
ME. >> PRAISE GOD.
00:33:20.46\00:33:23.40
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY DOORS
DIDN'T OPEN TO THOSE STUDENTS
00:33:23.40\00:33:26.67
THAT DAY, BUT THAT
ONE DID. >> THAT ONE DID.
00:33:26.67\00:33:29.44
>> I SAW THIS LADY COME OUT WITH
HER FISTS CLENCHED AND HANDS
00:33:29.44\00:33:34.58
ABOVE HER HEAD. IT WAS
LIKE SHE JUST KICKED THE
00:33:34.58\00:33:39.45
GAME-WINNING FIELD GOAL IN
THE SUPER BOWL FOR THE PATRIOTS.
00:33:39.45\00:33:42.18
BUT YOU PEOPLE LOVED ME.-THAT
WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF YOU
00:33:42.18\00:33:48.36
LOVE PEOPLE. >> YES, IT WILL.
AND WE HAVE TAKEN UP -- AND
00:33:48.36\00:33:52.13
WE'RE GOING TO GET TO OUR TOPIC,
I PROMISE YOU, BUT WE DON'T GET
00:33:52.13\00:33:56.93
TO TALK TO JOHN TOO
OFTEN. YOU CAN SEE THE LOVE OF
00:33:56.93\00:34:02.37
EVANGELISM AND
EXCITEMENT OF DOING GOD'S WORK.
00:34:02.37\00:34:06.24
LET ME ASK YOU ONE THOSE HIGH
CONCEPT QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK
00:34:06.24\00:34:12.65
EVERY NOW AND AGAIN. AT
THIS POINT IN YOUR LIFE, YOU
00:34:12.65\00:34:16.38
ARE SITTING A TOP AN
INTERNATIONAL MINISTRY.
00:34:16.38\00:34:21.42
OBVIOUSLY GOD IS MOVING IN YOUR
LIFE, FAMILIARLY IS DOING WELL.
00:34:21.42\00:34:24.46
>> OH, YEAH. >>
WHAT GETS YOU UP IN THE
00:34:24.46\00:34:29.03
MORNING? WHAT EXCITES YOU?
00:34:29.03\00:34:32.60
WHAT IS IT IN THIS DAY AND AGE,
THAT GETS YOU UP EVERY MORNING
00:34:32.60\00:34:37.11
AND GETS YOU EXCITED? >>
I WAS DEAD STONE COLD LOST
00:34:37.11\00:34:41.74
ONCE. AND
SOMEBODY COMMUNICATED A
00:34:41.74\00:34:45.21
LIFE-CHANGING TRUTH TO
ME. THAT EVERY DAY I GO TO THE
00:34:45.21\00:34:47.82
OFFICE, AND WE HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE
00:34:47.82\00:34:51.42
LIFE-CHANGING TRUTH TO
PEOPLE. I DON'T MEAN THAT
00:34:51.42\00:34:56.12
INTELLECTUALLY, TRUTH WITH A
CAPITAL T JESUS BEING THE TRUTH.
00:34:56.12\00:35:00.83
>> YES. >> EVERYTHING WE DO A
00:35:00.83\00:35:03.43
DEVOTIONAL, RESOURCE, PROGRAM
WE'RE PREPARING, A MEDICAL
00:35:03.43\00:35:08.27
MISSIONARY, WE HAVE THE
PHOTOGRAPH OF THE MONGOLIAN MAN
00:35:08.27\00:35:12.61
KISSING HIS BIBLE.
FIRST BIBLE HE HAS EVER OWNED.
00:35:12.61\00:35:15.24
WE HAVE THE CHANCE TO OFFER
LIFE WHERE THERE WAS DEATH.
00:35:15.24\00:35:19.21
THIS IS PROFOUND, MAN, AND YOU
MAKE A TELEVISION PROGRAM THAT
00:35:19.21\00:35:23.85
YOU KNOW WILL BE
SEEN AROUND THE WORLD.
00:35:23.85\00:35:26.29
MY BROTHER WAS JUST AT
HIS WIFE'S FATHER'S FUNERAL.
00:35:26.29\00:35:32.56
GOD REST HIS SOUL. HE
WAS TRULY A WONDERFUL MAN.
00:35:32.56\00:35:36.70
SO AFTER THE FUNERAL, EVERYBODY
WENT TO THE PUB, TO THE BAR.
00:35:36.70\00:35:42.10
>> HUM. >> WHAT
WAS MY BROTHER GOING TO
00:35:42.10\00:35:45.11
DO? OF COURSE HE
JUST TAGGED ALONG,
00:35:45.11\00:35:47.24
HE AND HIS WIFE. THEY
WENT ALOG, AND BECAUSE
00:35:47.24\00:35:50.18
THEY WERE -- YOU KNOW, BEING
FRIENDS, AND GRIEVING WITH THE
00:35:50.18\00:35:53.55
GRIEVING, AND IT WAS
JUST WHERE THE ACTION WAS.
00:35:53.55\00:35:56.45
AND I HE WAS DRINKING HIS
ORANGE JUICE OR SOMETHING.
00:35:56.45\00:36:00.32
HE WAS INTRODUCED TO LADY WHO
WAS PROPPED UP AT THE BAR AND
00:36:00.32\00:36:04.86
DRINKING SOMETHING -- SHE
HAD SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THAT
00:36:04.86\00:36:07.96
PLACE. HE
MENTIONED HIS NAME BRADSHAW.
00:36:07.96\00:36:11.93
AND SHE SAID ARE YOU
RELATED TO JOHN BRADSHAW?
00:36:11.93\00:36:14.77
THE GUY ON TV. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:36:14.77\00:36:16.14
>> AND SHE LAUGHED.
AND THIS IS IN MY HOMETOWN.
00:36:16.14\00:36:20.61
AND HE SAID HE IS MY
BROTHER? YOU MUST BE LYING.
00:36:20.61\00:36:24.98
THERE'S NO WAY. HERE
IS THE POINT ON THE OTHER
00:36:24.98\00:36:27.62
SIDE OF THE WORLD THERE IS A
LADY WHO SPENDS HER DAY PROPPING
00:36:27.62\00:36:31.79
UP A BAR DRINKING BEER, BUT SHE
GOES AND WATCHES IT IS WRITTEN
00:36:31.79\00:36:38.99
TELEVISION AND IT
IS CHANGING HER LIFE.
00:36:38.99\00:36:41.66
YOU MIGHT SAY SHE IS
STILL DRINKING IN A PUB?
00:36:41.66\00:36:45.77
BUT I WAS AT THAT SAME
TIME FILMING IN WHAT WE CALL THE
00:36:45.77\00:36:50.51
BUSH -- WHAT IN TENNESSEE
THEY MIGHT CALL A MOUNTAIN, IN
00:36:50.51\00:36:54.54
SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, THEY WOULD
CERTAINLY CALL IT A MOUNTAIN,
00:36:54.54\00:36:57.78
HILLS REALLY. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:36:57.78\00:36:58.88
>> AS I'M STANDING ON THE SIDE
OF THE TRAIL -- IT'S A VERY BUSY
00:36:58.88\00:37:04.05
TRAIL. LOTS OF EOPLE USE IT FOR
00:37:04.05\00:37:06.76
EXERCISE. A
FELLOW LOOKS PAST, AND HE
00:37:06.76\00:37:09.42
LOOKS AT ME, REALLY LOOKS
AT ME, AND I GUESS I'M STANDING
00:37:09.42\00:37:13.13
WITH -- HOW MANY MEN ARE
UP THERE WITH MAKEUP ON, AND
00:37:13.13\00:37:17.40
SOMEONE WITH A CAMERA.-AND HE
GETS UP TO THERE AND SAYS TO ONE
OF OUR TEAM, HE SAYS, IS
00:37:17.40\00:37:26.78
THAT GUY'S NAME
JOHN? YES, IT IS.
00:37:26.78\00:37:29.71
WE INTERCEPTED HIM ON THE WAY
BACK DOWN AND SPOKE WITH HIM.
00:37:29.71\00:37:34.55
HE SAID I WAS
REALLY A LOST, LOST MAN.
00:37:34.55\00:37:37.15
I WAS FLIPPING AROUND ON
THE TELEVISION CHANNELS, AND I
00:37:37.15\00:37:42.26
STOPPED ON YOU, IT IS WRITTEN,
AND IT REALLY SPOKE TO ME.
00:37:42.26\00:37:49.56
HE GOT A BIBLE AND MADE A NOTE
WATCH EVERY WEEK OR EVERY DAY OR
00:37:49.56\00:37:54.90
WHATEVER IT WAS ON. AND
HE SAID I'M NOT THE SAME
00:37:54.90\00:37:58.21
PERSON. I HAVE
GIVEN MY LIFE TO CHRIST.
00:37:58.21\00:38:00.68
>> PRAISE THE LORD. .
00:38:00.68\00:38:02.14
>> YOU HAVE HEARD STORIES LIKE
THAT BEFORE IN YOUR MINISTRY.
00:38:02.14\00:38:05.75
>> UH-HUH. >>
THAT'S WHAT DRIVES US.
00:38:05.75\00:38:10.25
WE DON'T PREACH TO THE CHOIR.
THIS IS EVANGELISM, AND THAT'S
00:38:10.25\00:38:14.76
WHAT DRIVES ME AND
MOVES ME. IT'S WHAT I LOVE.
00:38:14.76\00:38:18.16
>> PRAISE GOD. PRAISE GOD.
00:38:18.16\00:38:20.13
>> YEAH, AND I DO IT
WITH A LOT OF HUMILITY.
00:38:20.13\00:38:25.07
IT'S -- IT'S --
IT'S A RESPONSIBILITY.
00:38:25.07\00:38:28.37
>> UH-HUH. >> AND I
-- I RECOGNIZE, IT'S A
00:38:28.37\00:38:32.14
PRIVILEGE, YOU KNOW? >> UH-HUH.
00:38:32.14\00:38:33.58
>> THIS WAS A LOST MAN AND NOW
GOD HAS GIVEN ME THE OPPORTUNITY
00:38:33.58\00:38:37.78
TO COMMUNICATE THE
MESSAGE TO THE WORLD.
00:38:37.78\00:38:41.42
I'M THRILLED.
>> PRAISE THE LORD.
00:38:41.42\00:38:43.22
HOW IS YOUR HEALTH? >> YES.
00:38:43.22\00:38:47.29
I'M WELL. I'M GRATEFUL.
00:38:47.29\00:38:49.09
YEAH, DOCTOR
SAYS I'M DOING GREAT.
00:38:49.09\00:38:51.36
>> EXCELLENT. EXCELLENT.
00:38:51.36\00:38:53.66
GOOD TO HEAR. >>
THAT IS GOOD TO HEAR.
00:38:53.66\00:38:55.66
LET ME TELL YOU. >>
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A
00:38:55.66\00:38:59.47
LITTLE WINDOW
INSIDE. >> THANK YOU.
00:38:59.47\00:39:01.94
>> WE'RE GOING TO GET TO
OUR TOPIC, AND WE APOLOGIZE, BUT
00:39: