>>> HELLO, AND
WELCOME TO 3ABN TODAY LIVE.
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YOU KNOW MUCH OF THE WORLD
IS INFLUENCED BY THE PROGRAMMING
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THAT GOES FORTH, AND WE
THANK THE LORD FOR THAT.
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SO THANK YOU FOR TUNING IN
TONIGHT FORA VERY IMPORTANT
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PROGRAM. ONE OF
THE REASONS WHY I
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CONSIDER IT IMPORTANT IS THIS
PROGRAM IS ON THE CUSPET OF A
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CHANGE, THE BEGINNING
OF A NEW ADMINISTRATION.
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WE'LL SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ON
WHAT WE BELIEVE THE LORD HAS IN
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STORE FOR AMERICA, AND WE'LL
COVER ISSUES REGARDING RELIGIOUS
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LIBERTY, AND THINGS HAPPENING
FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS
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COUNTRY, AS WELL AS ITS
INFLUENCE AROUND THE WORLD.
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IT'S A TWO-HOUR PROGRAM.
YOU'LL GET A CHANCE TO SEND YOUR
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BIBLE QUESTIONS AND
COMMENTS IN THE SECOND HOUR.
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MY NAME IS JOHN LOMACANG.
IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME,
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WELCOME TO THIS NETWORK, AND WE
WANT TO PAUSE YOU AND THANK YOU
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ON BEHALF OF DANNY SHELTON THE
FOUNDER OF 3ABN FOR YOUR PRAYERS
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AND YOUR FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS
THAT KEEP US GOING.
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OUR GUEST TONIGHT IS A GOOD
FRIENDS OF MINE, LINCOLN STEED.
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HE IS GOING TO BE OUR
HOST FOR THE SECOND TWO HOURS.
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YOU MIGHT WANT TO HIT RECORD,
BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A
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POWER-PACKED PROGRAM. HE
IS A MAN WHO STAYS ABREAST
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WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
POLITIC WITH A BALANCE OF THE
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KNOWLEDGE OF THE SCRIPTURES
TO KEEP THAT IN CONNECTION.
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WELCOME, LINCOLN. >> THANK YOU.
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>> I ALMOST WANT TO
CALL YOU LINCOLN STEEL.
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>> LIKE THE STABLE
HORSE. >> THAT'S A GOOD ONE.
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THANK YOU FOR COMING
TONIGHT.-I'M EQUALLY EXCITED TO
BE HOSTING THE PROGRAM WITH YOU.
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I USE THE PHRASE
WE GO DEEP SEA DIVING.
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>> SOMEBODY MADE A COMMENT
RECENTLY, THAT SAID HISTORY
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WOULD BE GREAT, IF IT WERE TRUE.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO DISBELIEVE
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EVERYTHING, YOU STUDY IT.
AND IN ALL REALITY, WE NEED TO
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ASK DEEPER
QUESTIONS. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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AND THAT'S WHAT THE LORD WANTS
US TO DO, STUDY TO SHOW THY SELF
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APPROVED. WHEN YOU
KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT
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YOU KNOW, THEN YOU'LL
HAVE A STRONGER FOOTING, NOT ON
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FEELINGS, OR SUPPOSITIONS,
OR WHAT SOMEBODY ELSE MIGHT SAY.
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I SAW A PERSON WHO SAID,
ACCORDING TO THE MOST FAMOUS
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PERSON, I QUOTE --
AND THE QUOTE WAS WRONG.
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>> HUM. >> WE
ALWAYS HAVE MUSIC AND ONE
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OF MY FAVORITE MINISTERS
OF MUSIC IS T. MARSHALL KELLY.
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AND HE IS GOING TO BLESS US WITH
THE SONG ENTIGHTED "TWO TIME
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MORE." ¤
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¤ THE LITTLE BOY BUILT A
BOAT, BUILT IT OUT OF LOVE ¤
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¤ PUT IT IN THE RIVER
¤ ¤ A STRING TIED THE TWO
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TOGETHER ¤ ¤ BUT
THE CURRENT BROKE THAT
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STRING ¤ ¤ AND
THE BOAT JUST DRIFTED
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AWAY ¤ ¤ A LITTLE
BOY MADE A PROMISE ¤
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¤ A TEAR DROP IN HIS EYE ¤ ¤
ONE DAY HE RECLAIMED THE BOAT
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TO BRING THE TWO BACK TOGETHER
¤ ¤ WHILE IT DIDN'T TAKE TOO
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LONG ¤ ¤ BUT WHEN
HE SAW THE BOAT IN
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THE WINDOW OF A STORE ¤ ¤
WELL HE SAVED ALL HIS MONEY
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AND HE BOUGHT THE BOAT, AND AS
HE WALKED AWAY, YOU COULD HEAR
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HIM SAY ¤ ¤ NOW
YOU'RE MINE, MINE ¤
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¤ TWO TIMES YOU ARE MINE ¤
¤ ONCE BECAUSE I MADE YOU ¤
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¤ ONCE BECAUSE I BOUGHT YOU
¤ ¤ NOW YOU'RE MINE, MINE, TWO
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TIMES YOU'RE MINE ¤ ¤
BOTH TIMES CAUSE I LOVE YOU
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SO ¤ ¤ GOD MADE A
MAN, MADE HIM WITH
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HIS LOVE ¤ ¤ PUT HIM
IN THE WORLD AND LOVE
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TIED THE TWO TOGETHER ¤ ¤
BUT THE MAN BROKE THAT LOVE ¤
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¤ AND THE MAN
JUST DRIFTED AWAY ¤
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¤ GOD MADE A PROMISE
FROM HIS THROWN ON HIGH ¤
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¤ ONE DAY HE WOULD RECLAIM
THE MAN, AND BRING THE TWO BACK
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TOGETHER ¤ ¤
WHILE IT DIDN'T TAKE TOO
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LONG ¤ ¤ WHEN HE
SENT DOWN, JESUS, HIS
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ONLY SON,
SACRIFICED HIS SON THAT DAY ¤
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¤ IF YOU LISTEN CLOSE
YOU CAN HEAR HIM SAY ¤
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¤ YOU'RE MINE, MINE,
TWO TIMES YOU'RE MINE ¤
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¤ ONCE BECAUSE I MADE YOU ¤
¤ ONCE BECAUSE I BOUGHT YOU ¤
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¤ NOW YOU'RE MINE,
MINE, TWO TIMES YOU'RE MINE ¤
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¤ BOTH TIMES
CAUSE I LOVE YOU SO ¤
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¤ BOTH TIMES
BECAUSE I LOVE YOU SO ¤
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¤ DON'T YOU KNOW GOD
LOVES EACH ONE OF YOU SO ¤
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>>> THANK YOU SO
MUCH, ELDER KELLY.
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ONE OF MY FAVORITE SINGERS
IN THE SENSE THAT HE IS A VERY
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SPIRITUAL MAN AND A MENTOR
TO MANY OF US WHO ARE NOT IN THE
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MINISTRY AS LONG AS HE HAS BEEN.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR MINISTRY,
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"TWO TIME MORE."
THANK YOU FOR THAT SONG VERY
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MUCH. LINCOLN
IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU
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HERE AS I SAID AT THE TOP OF THE
PROGRAM, AS THEY WOULD SAY IN
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AUSTRALIA. I'LL
WORK ON MY ACCENT.
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>> OR AS MOST
PEOPLE THINK IT IS AUSTRIA.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> AND
YOU HAVE -- GIVE US SOME
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OF YOUR BACKGROUND JUST FOR THE
BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO MAY HAVE
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NEVER MET YOU BEFORE.
>> I DON'T WANT TOO SAY TOO
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MUCH. BUT I GREW
UP IN MY EARLY YEARS
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IN AUSTRALIA. I
LIVED ABOUT 40 YEARS IN THE
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U.S. BUT I WENT
BACK BRIEFLY, WORKED
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IN AUSTRALIA. I
HAVE BEEN IN EDITING,
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PUBLICING MOST OF MY LIFE.
BEEN WITH "LIBERTY MAGAZINE" FOR
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19-PLUS YEARS NOW. AND
TO ME, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD
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LIKE TO BE DEFINED AS,
THE EDITOR OF "LIBERTY."
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WE ALL SHOULD REALIZE WE STAND
ON THE SHOULDERS OF A LOT OF
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PEOPLE THAT CAME BEFORE US.
IN MY MINE GROWING UP, IT WAS
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ROWLAND HICKSTON.
SO TO ME IT IS A GREAT
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PRIVILEGE. IT'S
EXCITING, AND AS YOU
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MENTIONED BEFORE -- PARTICULARLY
IN LIGHT OF WHAT IS ABOUT TO
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HAPPEN IN THE U.S.
US, IT IS JUST THRILLING.
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JUST TO SEE
HISTORY IN FAST MOTION.
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ELLEN WHITE WROTE TO THE
ADVENTIST AUDIENCE OF HER DAY,
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AND SAID THE FINAL
MOVEMENTS WOULD BE RAPID ONES.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> WE
COULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED HOW
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QUICK WE GO BACK TO THE
SOVIET UNION COLLAPSING IN A FEW
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MONTHS. WE SEE
OTHER THINGS, BREXIT AND
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SO ON. THE
ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, GLOBAL
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WARMING. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> IF WE BELIEVE THE SIGN
ADVERTISES, THIS IS THE WARMEST
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YEAR ON RECORD.
DID YOU KNOW THAT?
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THE YEAR THAT
JUST FINISHED? 2016?
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AND I HEARD THAT '17 IS
SHAPING UP TO BE THE SAME.
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THINGS ARE A FOOT. >>
AND THE STAGE IS BEING SET
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FOR THINGS TO
JUST FALL IN PLACE.
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>> PROPHECY IS VERY PLAIN.
BUT IF YOU KNOW HISTORY, WHEN
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YOU FEED IN THESE BIG ISSUES
LIKE GLOBAL WARMING, THAT WILL
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HAVE MASSIVE POLITICAL,
SOCIOECONOMIC RAMIFICATIONS.
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THE U.S. MILITARY KNOW THIS.
THEY HAVE WRITTEN -- OR HAVE
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THEY HAVE HAD PAPERS FOR
YEARS SAYING THAT FEMININE IN A
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CERTAIN AREA
LEADS DIRECTLY TO WAR.
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>> THATS RIGHT. >> FOR
WANT OF A NAIL, A SHOE IS
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LOST, FOR WANT OF A SHOE, A
HORSE WAS LOS, FOR WANT OF A
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HORSE A BATTLE WAS LOSS.
FOR WANT OF A BATTLE A KINGDOM
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IS LOSS. GLOBAL
WARMING IS NOT LITTLE,
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BUT A RELATIVELY LITTLE THING
CAN HAVE INCREDIBLY FAR-REACHING
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CONSEQUENCES. AN
ISSUE THAT COMES UP WITH
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RELIGIOUS LIBERTY, IT IMPOUNDS
ON RELIGIOUS LIBERTY IS THE
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WHOLE GAY MOVEMENT,
GAY MARRIAGE AND SO ON.
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>> RIGHT. >>
THAT'S AN IMMENSE SOCIAL
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EXPERIMENT FOR
THE SECULAR WORLD.
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IT CAN THROW THE
WHOLE ECONOMY OUT OF WHACK.
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IT HAS ISSUES FOR CHILD REARING.
IT GOES ON AND ON, AND THE WAVES
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FOR THAT -- THERE'S SO MANY
UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT
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HAVEN'T YET REVEALED THEMSELVES,
BUT WE KNOW THAT THAT ALONE HAS
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THE ABILITY TO -- TO
DESTABILIZE THE WHOLE CULTURE.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> APART FROM
THE MORALITY OF IT.
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>> THAT IS THE FOUNDATION FROM
THE CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE OF IT.
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>> LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT
OF OUR CULTURE HAS BEEN CHANGED
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RADICALLY BY SOMETHING THAT WAS
NOT IN ITSELF BAD, THE WOMEN'S
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SUFFICIENT RAIJ MOVEMENT.
THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING
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DRAMATICALLY. A
BIGGER WORKFORCE, OVERLOAD OF
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THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE GOOD,
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MIGHT JUST SEEM NORMAL,
WHATEVER, THE EFFECTS OF THAT
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CAN BE RADICALLY SHIFTING TO THE
DYNAMIC, AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE
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THEM ON EVERY HAND.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE THING.
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>> UH-HUH. >> I'LL
GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.
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IT'S EVERYWHERE, AND TECHNOLOGY
IS JUST THROWING US INTO THE
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FURNACE. >> AND
IT'S TOO FAST FOR US TO
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KEEP UP WITH. >> YEAH.
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>> AND WE'RE MOVING ON TO
ANOTHER AGENDA, AND WHEN YOU TRY
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TO SOLVE ISSUES LIKE RIGHT NOW
IN AMERICA, WE'RE ON THE CUSP OF
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A NEW ADMINISTRATION. AND
A LOT OF PRAYER FROM SO MANY
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INDIVIDUALS, AND I SAY
THAT RESPECTFULLY, EVEN THE
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POLITICIANS, EVEN THOSE THAT
STOOD ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
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DIDN'T EVEN ENVISION THAT
AMERICA WOULD BE MOVING IN THIS
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DIRECTION. HOWEVER,
FOR THE FACT THAT GOD
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ALLOWED IT, THERE IS SOMETHING
WE MUST LEARN IN THE NEAR
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FUTURE. >> IT'S
CAUSE AND EFFECT, WE'RE
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TOLD. GOD HAS HIS HAND OVER THE
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BIGGEST PICTURE, BUT I THINK
IT'S CLEAR THAT HE IS LETTING
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CAUSE AND EFFECT PLAY OUT
TO SHOW THE RESULT OF WRONG
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ACTIONS, AND GOOD
ACTIONS. >> THAT'S TRUE.
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>> AND BE VINDICATED. BUT
ONE THING I WANT TO SAY, I
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THINK WE'RE AT AN EXTRAORDINARY
MOMENT, BUT NOT THE ONLY
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EXTRAORDINARY MOMENT
IN YOUR OR MY LIFETIME.
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I CAN REMEMBER AS A Y
YOUK -- YOUNG BOY IN AUSTRALIA,
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WHEN A ROMAN CATHOLIC WAS
ELECTED PRESIDENT, JOHN KENNEDY.
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JUST THE FACT THAT A
ROMAN CATHOLIC WAS ELECTED.
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WE EXPECTED THIS WOULD BE
THE END OF PROTESTANT AMERICA.
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WE COULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED THAT
HE WOULD GIVE SUCH A RESOUNDING
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STATEMENT WHERE HE SAID NO,
THE RELIGIOUS A LEADER OR ANYONE
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LIKE THAT IS GOING
TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO.
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HE SO AFFIRMED SEPARATION OF
CHURCH AND STATE, THAT NOT THIS
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LAST ELECTION CYCLE, BUT THE
ONE BEFORE, THE ROMAN CATHOLIC
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BISHOPS MADE A STATEMENT.
THEY SAID THEY MADE A HUGE
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MISTAKE NOT FORCING JOHN
F KENNEDY IN ENFORCING THE
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DICTATES OF THE CHURCH, AND
THEY WOULD NOT MAKE THAT MISTAKE
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AGAIN. >> WOW.
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>> AND THEN IN THE 60S, THE
SENATOR THAT EVERYONE THOUGHT
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WAS GOING TO BRING
NUCLEAR WAR UPON US.
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AND THE 68 --
>> BARRY GOLDWATER?
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>> YES, GOLDWATER. IT
WAS LIKE THE SKY WAS FALLING.
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IT'S THE END OF
AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT.
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>> RIGHT. >> AND
GOING FURTHER BACK,
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ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS THE MOST
DIVISIVE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
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AND WINNER OF THE
CONTEST. HIS MERE TAKING OFFICE
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PRECIPITATED CIVIL
WAR. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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HE -- EVEN HAVE TO
DO ANYTHING. >> NO.
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I'M NOT SURE HE
HELPED IT MUCH INITIALLY.
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BUT IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN CIVIL WAR.
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BECAUSE IT WAS KNOWN IF HE WERE
ELECTED THINGS WERE GOING TO
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HAPPEN. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> SO WE DON'T REALLY KNOW NOW.
ALL WE KNOW WE'RE ON A QUANTUM
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SHIFT FROM NORMALCY. >>
AND WE HAVE HAD MANY PAPER
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TIGERS IN HISTORY,
OR PAPER ARMAGEDDONS.
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AND GROWING UP -- I'M NOW IN
MY 50S -- I WILL NOW ADMIT THAT.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> [ INAUDIBLE ].
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>> FORGET THAT. BUT
I HAVE BEEN AROUND LONG
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ENOUGH TO KNOW, LOOKING AT ALL
OF THE DIFFERENT OFFICES, EVERY
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ELECTION, SOMEBODY
IS UPSET -- >> RIGHT.
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>> THAT'S JUST THE
WAY IT IS IN AMERICA.
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>> ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU BECOME
TOO PARTISAN, WHICH I ALSO THINK
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IS DANGEROUS FOR A CHRISTIAN.
WE'RE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE
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GOVERNMENT, BUT IT'S SORT OF
A SIREN SONG FOR PEOPLE LOOKING
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FOR ANOTHER WORLD AND A GOD
ABOVE THIS WORLD TO BECOME TOO
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ENAMORED, BECAUSE IT'S FULL
OF WARS AND PUSHES AND COUPS,
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AND -- >> OF
ONE TYPE OR ANOTHER.
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>> IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT
POLITICS IS WARFARE BY ANOTHER
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MEANS. >> THAT'S TRUE.
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>> BUT AS FAR AS THIS RECENT
CHANGE, NOBODY SIX MONTHS AGO OR
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A YEAR AGO, COULD HAVE QUITE
GUESSED THE OUTCOME OF THIS
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ELECTION. BUT THE BIBLE SAYS YOU
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REAP -- YOU GO TO THE
WIND YOU REAP THE WHIRLWIND.
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WHAT HAS HAPPENED
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS?
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EIGHT YEARS AGO WE HAD ONE
POLITICAL PARTY THAT REFUSED TO
00:18:08.48\00:18:13.22
COOPERATE WHATSOEVER. WE
HAD CONGRESS BEING SEEN AS
00:18:13.22\00:18:17.23
INEFFECTIVE AND THE
PEOPLE HAVE LOST FAITH IN IT.
00:18:17.23\00:18:20.40
WE -- FURTHER, ALL OF
THE SURVEYS SHOW THAT A GOOD
00:18:20.40\00:18:25.27
PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION
HAVE NO DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE
00:18:25.27\00:18:30.11
CONSTITUTION, PROVEN BY THE
CONTINUES YOU FOOLISH STATEMENTS
00:18:30.11\00:18:36.64
BY WHY DOESN'T A
MAJORITY GO? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:18:36.64\00:18:43.45
>> AND THE CONTINUING MALIGNING
OF THE PREVIOUS PRESIDENT.
00:18:43.45\00:18:52.26
THE CRITIQUES WERE OF A
DESTRUCTIVE PERSONAL NATURE THAT
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TENDED TO DELEGITIMIZE
THE PRESIDENCY ITSELF.
00:19:00.24\00:19:03.27
SO IT'S NO WONDER THAT WE
HAVE COME TO THE POINT WHERE THE
00:19:03.27\00:19:07.48
WHOLE OFFICE IS PERILOUSLY CLOSE
TO A SORT OF -- YOU KNOW, DARK
00:19:07.48\00:19:16.79
COMEDY. >> AND AS
AMERICANS WE HAVE TO
00:19:16.79\00:19:19.12
RECOGNIZE THAT THE ENTIRE
INFRASTRUCTURE OF POLITICS IN
00:19:19.12\00:19:24.29
AMERICA IS FOR THE PHRASE,
BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE,
00:19:24.29\00:19:27.60
HOWEVER, SO MANY PEOPLE NOT
BEING AWARE OF THEIR RIGHTS, ARE
00:19:27.60\00:19:31.43
NOT AT THE PLACE WHERE
THEY COULD FIRMLY STAND ON THE
00:19:31.43\00:19:35.80
KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO.
00:19:35.80\00:19:39.61
>> VIGILANCE IS THE
PRICE OF OPPORTUNITY.
00:19:39.61\00:19:44.21
VIGILANCE SHOULD BE KNOWLEDGE
AND AWARENESS OF YOUR OWN
00:19:44.21\00:19:47.85
STRUCTURE. AND I'M
NOT PAINTING THE EPITATH
00:19:47.85\00:20:01.60
OF THE UNITED STATES. I
DON'T THINK THIS IS THE END OF
00:20:01.60\00:20:04.70
AMERICA AS WE KNOW IT. BUT
IT COULD BE THE BEGINNING OF
00:20:04.70\00:20:08.24
AMERICA IN ITS
FUTURE FORM. >> UH-HUH.
00:20:08.24\00:20:11.11
>> AND YOU AND I KNOW THAT
THERE'S STRONG INDICATIONS FROM
00:20:11.11\00:20:16.61
PROPHECY, THAT THE UNITED STATES
WILL TURN INTO AN AUTHORITARIAN
00:20:16.61\00:20:22.38
FORM AND BEGIN TO INFLUENCE
THE WAY THAT PEOPLE THINK.
00:20:22.38\00:20:27.79
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY
OF NATIONS, THAT'S REALLY THE
00:20:27.79\00:20:34.76
WAY THE PATENT
OF POWER PROCEEDS.
00:20:34.76\00:20:37.93
>> BUT IN AMERICA -- >>
WE'RE NOT EXEMPT FROM HUMAN
00:20:37.93\00:20:42.40
BEHAVIOR AND GROUP
PSYCHOLOGY. >> RIGHT.
00:20:42.40\00:20:44.74
BUT IN AMERICA, WE SAY WE ARE
A FREE NATION, A FREE CULTURE.
00:20:44.74\00:20:50.05
AND WHENEVEREN OUR FREEDOMS ARE
CHALLENGED, ONE OF THE DANGERS
00:20:50.05\00:20:55.15
IN AMERICA AS A CITIZEN IS FIRST
OF ALL NOT BEING AWARE OF WHAT
00:20:55.15\00:20:59.89
YOUR COUNTRY STANDINGS FOR, BUT
I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN JUST A
00:20:59.89\00:21:04.66
MOMENT. I WANT
TO MAKE A PLUG, VERY
00:21:04.66\00:21:07.23
IMPORTANT. ONE OF
THE REASONS WE HAVE
00:21:07.23\00:21:09.86
INVITED YOU, ABOUT "LIBERTY
MAGAZINE," MANY OF YOU IF YOU
00:21:09.86\00:21:14.97
WANT TO EFFECT CHANGE OR
INFLUENCE THE DIRECTION OF YOUR
00:21:14.97\00:21:17.44
LOCAL POLITICS, YOUR MAYOR, YOUR
GOVERNOR, PEOPLE THAT CAN MAKE
00:21:17.44\00:21:22.98
DECISIONS ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT
ARE IMPORTANT TO YOU, "LIBERTY
00:21:22.98\00:21:26.65
MAGAZINE" IS SIGNIFICANT
TO HAVE IN YOUR POSSESSION.
00:21:26.65\00:21:29.25
IT HAS A RICH HERITAGE AS
YOU MENTIONED, AND THIS YEAR IN
00:21:29.25\00:21:34.02
PARTICULAR IS A
VERY SIGNIFICANT YEAR.
00:21:34.02\00:21:35.76
WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
WHY THIS YEAR IS SO VITALLY
00:21:35.76\00:21:42.03
IMPORTANT WHN IT COMES TO
LIBERTY ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA
00:21:42.03\00:21:46.74
OF RELIGION. WE'LL
TELL YOU HOW TO SUBSCRIBE
00:21:46.74\00:21:52.14
AND GET THESE IN THE HANDS
OF YOUR LOCAL POLITICIANS, YOUR
00:21:52.14\00:21:56.51
LOCAL CHIEF OF
POLICE, LOCAL ACTIVISTS.
00:21:56.51\00:21:59.41
PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT
IS HAPPENING, NOT ONLY FROM A
00:21:59.41\00:22:03.25
POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE, BUT
WHAT HAVE THE FORMER GOVERNMENTS
00:22:03.25\00:22:06.69
DONE? AND HOW HAS
THAT SHAPED AMERICA?
00:22:06.69\00:22:09.72
WHAT ABOUT RELIGIOUS
LIBERTY AND PROTESTANTISM.
00:22:09.72\00:22:15.10
I'LL GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT.
OUR KETTLES ARE GOING VERY
00:22:15.10\00:22:19.23
QUICKLY. BUT HERE
IS THE INFORMATION IF
00:22:19.23\00:22:25.44
YOU WANT TO SEND
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
00:22:25.44\00:22:28.48
YOU CAN SEND IT TO LIFE@3ABN.TV.
OR IF YOU WANT TO CALL, CALL
00:22:28.48\00:22:38.22
618-627-4651. AND IN
THE SECOND HOUR, WE'LL
00:22:38.22\00:22:42.22
TRY TO FIELD YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND TRY TO MAKE THEM AS CONCISE
00:22:42.22\00:22:45.89
AS YOU CAN, SO WE CAN INCREASE
THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING YOUR
00:22:45.89\00:22:50.70
QUESTIONS READ ON THE AIR.
2015, WE HAD A CHANCE TO MEET IN
00:22:50.70\00:22:55.70
WASHINGTON, D.C. >> YES.
00:22:55.70\00:22:56.87
>> I WAS INVITED BY ONE OF
THE SENATORS IN THE STATE OF
00:22:56.87\00:23:00.74
ILLINOIS TO BE PRESENT WHEN POPE
FRANCIS ADDRESSED CONGRESS, AND
00:23:00.74\00:23:05.41
AS I WAS THERE, I REMEMBERED
I HAD AN EXTRA TICKET AND YOUR
00:23:05.41\00:23:09.68
NAME
IMMEDIATELY CAME TO MY MIND.
00:23:09.68\00:23:12.62
AND WE WERE FORTUNATE TO GET
TOGETHER AND YOU WERE PRESENT
00:23:12.62\00:23:15.82
THERE. WHAT DO
YOU THINK -- LET ME
00:23:15.82\00:23:20.16
REPHRASE THAT. AS YOU
LISTENED TO THE POPE'S
00:23:20.16\00:23:23.63
ADDRESS TO CONGRESS, WHAT DID
YOU HEAR, AND WHAT ANALYSIS CAN
00:23:23.63\00:23:27.37
YOU GIVE US ABOUT
WHAT HE TALKED ABOUT?
00:23:27.37\00:23:29.50
>> WELL, HOW
MANY HOURS DO WE HAVE?
00:23:29.50\00:23:32.64
[ LAUGHTER ] >> NO,
THAT WAS AN INCREDIBLE
00:23:32.64\00:23:35.01
MOMENT FOR ME. JUST
AS A POINT OF HISTORY,
00:23:35.01\00:23:38.98
FORGET RELIGIOUS LIBERTY, FORFO
00:23:38.98\00:23:46.39
FORGETRY  RELIGION,
THAT WAS A MARKABLE MOMENT.
00:23:46.39\00:23:51.59
THE UNITED STATES WAS
NOT A RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENT.
00:23:51.59\00:23:54.93
IT WAS CONSCIOUSLY SET
UP AS A NEW SECULAR ORDER.
00:23:54.93\00:23:57.87
IT WAS SET UP TO PROTECT
RELIGION, BECAUSE WHILE THE
00:23:57.87\00:24:03.57
CLICHE THAT THE GRADE SCHOOL
KIDS GET IS NOT QUITE TRUE, THIS
00:24:03.57\00:24:07.08
WAS NOT UNIVERSALLY RELIGIOUS
IMMIGRATION, BUT THERE WAS A
00:24:07.08\00:24:12.15
STRONG FLAVOR OF THAT.
THERE WERE CONTINUOUS RELIGIOUS
00:24:12.15\00:24:19.52
WARS IN THE OLD WORLD. I
LIVE LITERALLY FIVE, TEN MILES
00:24:19.52\00:24:28.16
AWAY. AND THERE
ARE THE AMISH AND MEN
00:24:28.16\00:24:37.54
NON-ITS, AND THEY WERE
FLE FLEEING -- PERSECUTION.
00:24:37.54\00:24:48.08
THERE WAS CONCERN THE
BAPTISTS WOULD BE PERSECUTED.
00:24:48.08\00:25:00.56
BY LAW IT KEPT THE GOVERNMENT
OUT OF THE RELIGION BUSINESS.
00:25:00.56\00:25:04.47
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> SO,
YES, THIS IS A STATE THAT
00:25:04.47\00:25:08.54
HAD A STRONG SENSE OF
RELIGION, BUT SECULAR BY DESIGN.
00:25:08.54\00:25:13.44
AND BACK WHEN THE CONSTITUTION
WAS SET UP, IT WAS PRIMARILY
00:25:13.44\00:25:18.88
ENGLISH. SINCE IT
HAS BECOME MORE OF A
00:25:18.88\00:25:21.55
MIXING POT. AND
IT WAS OVERWHELMINGLY
00:25:21.55\00:25:25.32
PROTESTANT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:25:25.32\00:25:26.52
>> AND WITH RELIGIOUS LIBERTY,
WE DEFEND THE RIGHT FOR ANYONE
00:25:26.52\00:25:33.86
WHO BELIEVED WHAT THEY WANT.
BUT THE PROTESTANT CULTURE THAT
00:25:33.86\00:25:37.60
AT TIMES WAS -- WAS EVEN
VIOLENTLY OPPOSED TO POTPOURRI
00:25:37.60\00:25:43.41
AS THEY CALLED IT, THAT HAD
A THREAD EVEN OF MILLENNIALISM
00:25:43.41\00:25:49.01
MIXED IN WITH IT,
PROPHETIC SENSE --
00:25:49.01\00:25:51.98
>> FORWARD LOOKING. >>
TO NOW HAVE THE REVITALIZED
00:25:51.98\00:25:56.95
POPE OF ROME AS A POLITICAL
POWER -- HE BASICALLY LECTURED
00:25:56.95\00:26:05.63
OUR LEGISLATURES. HE
WAS THERE TO SET THEM
00:26:05.63\00:26:09.66
STRAIGHT. >> AND HE
GAVE THEM HIS AGENDA.
00:26:09.66\00:26:12.03
I READ THE SPEECH.
I READ THE TRANSCRIPT.
00:26:12.03\00:26:15.40
>> HE CALLED THEM OUT.
AND I THINK THAT LEAD DIRECTLY
00:26:15.40\00:26:20.54
TO SPEAKER
BOEHNER'S RESIGNATION.
00:26:20.54\00:26:27.42
>> WHEN HE SAID THIS, HE SAID
WE MUST MOVE FORWARD TOGETHER AS
00:26:27.42\00:26:32.19
ONE IN A RENEWED SPIRIT OF
SOLIDARITY, COOPERATING FOR THE
00:26:32.19\00:26:39.33
COMMON GOOD. AND
WHEN I WAS THERE -- I DID
00:26:39.33\00:26:41.96
SOME INTERVIEWS ON THE LAWN, AND
TALKING TO PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT
00:26:41.96\00:26:46.47
EVEN CATHOLIC, AND
THEY SAID THIS IS OUR POPE.
00:26:46.47\00:26:49.77
HE IS AMERICA'S POPE.
AND I SAID THEN YOU MUST BE
00:26:49.77\00:26:55.21
CATHOLIC. NO.
00:26:55.21\00:26:55.94
AND SOME WERE
NOT EVEN CHRISTIANS.
00:26:55.94\00:26:57.98
AND THEY SAID THIS IS A
DECIDING MOMENT FOR AMERICA.
00:26:57.98\00:27:01.88
THIS IS THE MAN THAT CAN --
>> YEAH, THE MAN OF THE HOUR.
00:27:01.88\00:27:05.12
WE DON'T WANT TO
MALIGN HIM PERSONALLY.
00:27:05.12\00:27:09.19
AND YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM HIS
POSITION HE WOULD TAKE ADVANTAGE
00:27:09.19\00:27:13.23
OF ANY OPPORTUNITY. BUT
IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE SHIFT.
00:27:13.23\00:27:19.67
THE SENSIBILITY OF RELIGIOUS
IDENTITY AND -- AND -- AND AIMS,
00:27:19.67\00:27:25.81
AND THE WHOLE REASON -- I THINK
YOU ELUDED TO IT, THE REAON FOR
00:27:25.81\00:27:32.68
THE REFORMATION, PROTESTANTISM,
IT'S LIKE GONE WITH A PUFF OF
00:27:32.68\00:27:40.89
WIND. AND YES,
I LISTENED TO THAT
00:27:40.89\00:27:43.09
SPEECH. AND IT WAS CALLING FOR
00:27:43.09\00:27:44.99
A --BASICALLY COME TOGETHER.
BUT HE WAS THERE TO FOLLOW
00:27:44.99\00:27:51.13
THROUGH ON A DOCUMENT THAT
HE HAD WRITTEN -- I'M TRYING TO
00:27:51.13\00:27:57.84
THINK OF THE --
WHAT WAS THE NAME OF IT.
00:27:57.84\00:28:00.34
NOT -- >> THE DOCUMENT --
00:28:00.34\00:28:02.38
>> I'M TRYING TO THINK
OF THE ONE THE YEAR BEFORE.
00:28:02.38\00:28:06.01
THE DOCUMENT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND IN THE ENVIRONMENT HE LAID
00:28:06.01\00:28:09.85
OUT A PLAN THAT ITSELF WAS
A FOLLOW ONFROM -- FROM HIS
00:28:09.85\00:28:16.93
PREDECESSOR'S DOCUMENT,
WHICH MENTIONED THE ENVIRONMENT,
00:28:16.93\00:28:19.83
ECONOMIC COLLAPSE AND
EVERYTHING, AND IN THAT BENEDICT
00:28:19.83\00:28:23.26
HAD SAID THERE IS A NEED FOR A
GLOBAL AUTHORITY WITH THE POWER
00:28:23.26\00:28:28.07
TO ACT AND ENFORCE.
THE AGENDA IS TO BRING THE
00:28:28.07\00:28:32.91
NATIONS TOGETHER TO AS THE POPE
SAID IN HIS SPEECH TO CONGRESS,
00:28:32.91\00:28:37.58
FOR A SPECIAL AGENDA, BUT
WE MUST REJECT EXTREMISTS, AND
00:28:37.58\00:28:44.85
FUNDAMENTALS. IT'S
REALLY MY AGENDA, LET'S GO
00:28:44.85\00:28:47.06
WITH IT. BUT IF YOU
DIFFER WITH IT, WE'LL
00:28:47.06\00:28:51.29
DEAL WITH THAT. >>
AND HOW FITTING IT IS THAT
00:28:51.29\00:28:56.30
THIS IS THE 500TH YEAR OF
THE PROTESTANT REFORMATION.
00:28:56.30\00:29:01.87
I READ AN ARTICLE, AND MANY
OF YOU HAVE WHICH AREN 3ABN AND
00:29:01.87\00:29:09.04
SENT A REQUEST FOR THE EMAIL.
IT WILL BE MIN INITIALLED BEFORE
00:29:09.04\00:29:15.38
THE MIDDLE OF THE
YEAR. I'M ALMOST DONE.
00:29:15.38\00:29:18.69
IT HAS BEEN -- PROBABLY ONE
OF THE TOUGHEST WORKS I HAVE PUT
00:29:18.69\00:29:22.12
TOGETHER ON FOLLOWING THE
MOVEMENTS OF PROTESTANTISM IN
00:29:22.12\00:29:29.76
AMERICA, CATHOLICISM IN AMERICA.
BUT THIS WAS SAID BY POPE JOHN
00:29:29.76\00:29:35.97
PAUL. HE SAYS
SPECIFICALLY, TODAY I
00:29:35.97\00:29:38.87
COME TO YOU, THE SPIRITUAL
INHERITANCE OF MARTIN LUTHER.
00:29:38.87\00:29:43.95
I ALSO COME AS A PILL GRAM.
IN A CHANGING WORLD I COME TO
00:29:43.95\00:29:48.12
SET A SIGN OF UNION.
BUT THE POPE DEFENDED THE
00:29:48.12\00:29:51.52
CATHOLIC STANDING ON AN ISSUE,
THE LUTHERANS SAY IS ESSENTIAL
00:29:51.52\00:29:57.29
TO THE DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN THE TWO FAITHS.
00:29:57.29\00:30:03.63
IF YOU LET US RECEIVE
COMMUNION, WE CAN CONSIDER THIS.
00:30:03.63\00:30:07.94
BUT THE ISSUES HAVE ESCALATED
INTO DIFFERENT ISSUES ALL
00:30:07.94\00:30:14.71
TOGETHER. MARTIN
LUTHER WAS CONSIDERED THE
00:30:14.71\00:30:17.98
MAN THAT CAUSED THE SPLIT.
>> THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS.
00:30:17.98\00:30:24.22
AND NEITHER YOU NOR I WOULD
DEFEND EVERYTHING THAT MARTIN
00:30:24.22\00:30:34.13
LUTHER DID. >> RIGHT.
00:30:34.13\00:30:35.50
>> BUT HE WAS ON TO SOMETHING.
THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN ITS
00:30:35.50\00:30:40.80
MANIFESTATION IN HIS DAY, AND
IT HAD BECOME VERY POLITICAL, IT
00:30:40.80\00:30:46.21
HAD ACCRUED AN INCREDIBLE
AMOUNT OF PAGAN PRACTICING AND
00:30:46.21\00:30:54.92
EVERYTHING ELSE. AND
HE HAD A BLINDING MOMENT
00:30:54.92\00:30:58.05
WHEN HE WENT TO
ROME, AND DE DEFENDED HIM.
00:30:58.05\00:31:03.53
AND HE BECAME CONVINCED THAT THE
TRUTH LAY IN THE HOLY WRITINGS,
00:31:03.53\00:31:09.10
RATHER THAN AS HE HAD
BEEN TAUGHT ALL THE WAY.
00:31:09.10\00:31:12.33
THE CHURCH AUTHORITIES.
CHURCH FATHERS AND SO ON.
00:31:12.33\00:31:16.20
THOSE ARE VALID PRINCIPLES
THAT I THINK ARE ETERNAL.
00:31:16.20\00:31:21.41
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY IN A WORLD
FULL OF CONFLICT, THERE WOULD BE
00:31:21.41\00:31:25.71
A CERTAIN HUMAN NECESSITY OR
URGE FOR PROTESTANT LEADERS, AND
00:31:25.71\00:31:30.75
THE ROMAN CATHOLICS TO
KISS AND MAKE UP TO A POINT.
00:31:30.75\00:31:34.26
>> RIGHT. >> BUT
TO SWEP ASIDE REAL
00:31:34.26\00:31:38.16
DIFFERENCES THAT HAVE NEVER
BEEN RESOLVED, AND TO SAY THE
00:31:38.16\00:31:43.97
REFORMATION IS OVER IS FOOLISH.
>> DO YOU FIND IT A DANGER WHEN
00:31:43.97\00:31:53.44
OTHER RELIGIOUS LEADERS SAY WE
HAVE MORE IN COMMON WITH ROME --
00:31:53.44\00:31:58.05
>> I THINK THEY ARE RIGHT.
BUT I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE
00:31:58.05\00:32:02.78
AS SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTISTS HAVE WARNED AGAINST.
00:32:02.78\00:32:04.82
WE STARTED OFF TALKING ABOUT THE
UNITED STATES, AND IN MANY WAYS,
00:32:04.82\00:32:09.86
A LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC TRADITION
BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION AND IN
00:32:09.86\00:32:15.13
THE STREAM OF -- OF FREEDOM
LOVING PEOPLE FROM ENGLAND R
00:32:15.13\00:32:22.37
RICHAL -- ORIGINALLY.
THAT'S DRIFTING AWAY.
00:32:22.37\00:32:26.88
SO IN THE CHRISTIAN WORLD WHEN
WE LOSE A SENSE OF WHAT MADE US
00:32:26.88\00:32:30.68
WHAT WE ARE, WE'RE SITTING DUCKS
FOR ANY ONE THAT COMES AROUND.
00:32:30.68\00:32:38.82
IT'S OF NO
CONSEQUENCE THAT ROME EXISTS.
00:32:38.82\00:32:45.73
MORMONS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS,
I CAN'T QUESTION THAT.
00:32:45.73\00:32:50.47
BUT THE LOSS OF IDENTITY, REAL
ISSUES THAT IN THE PAST PEOPLE
00:32:50.47\00:32:57.31
DIED FOR OR WERE KILLED
FOR, IT'S A REALLY LOSS OF OUR
00:32:57.31\00:33:04.55
PRINCIPLES. AND
WE CAN GET INTO THAT.
00:33:04.55\00:33:06.78
THE DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES
THAT WE HAVE CAE OUT OF THE
00:33:06.78\00:33:11.42
REFORMATION. THEY
DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE
00:33:11.42\00:33:15.06
MEDIEVAL WORLD? THEY
DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE
00:33:15.06\00:33:18.36
VIEWS THAT THE MEDIEVAL
CHURCH WAS PROMULGATING.
00:33:18.36\00:33:21.13
THEY WERE A REACTION TO
IT. YOU READ MY EDITORIAL.
00:33:21.13\00:33:27.57
>> OH, YEAH. >> I
MAKE A BRIGHT LINE.
00:33:27.57\00:33:31.97
THE 30-YEAR WAR, THERE WAS A
MUCH, MUCH SMALLER POPULATION.
00:33:31.97\00:33:39.01
8 MILLION PEOPLE DIED AND THE
ENTIRE INFRASTRUCTURE COLLAPSED.
00:33:39.01\00:33:43.85
AGRICULTURE AND
EVERYTHING WAS GONE.
00:33:43.85\00:33:45.72
AND AT THE END OF THE 30
YEARS, THEY GOT TOGETHER AND 116
00:33:45.72\00:33:54.40
DELEGATIONS, I THINK, THAT
REPRESENTED DIFFERENT PEOPLE
00:33:54.40\00:33:58.20
GROUPS AND POTENTIAL NATIONS,
STRUCK A GRAND DOCUMENT THAT
00:33:58.20\00:34:03.74
BIRTHED THE MODERN WORLD
SYSTEM THAT WE LIVE UNDER NOW.
00:34:03.74\00:34:07.28
BEFORE THEN THERE WAS THE ROMAN
EMPIRE, THE BARBARIANS ON THE
00:34:07.28\00:34:13.68
BORDERS, AND THE HOLY ROMAN
EMPIRE, UNDER THE AUSPICES OF
00:34:13.68\00:34:22.82
THE HOPE. THAT
DIDN'T RECOGNIZE PEOPLE OR
00:34:22.82\00:34:25.56
POLITICAL BOUNDARIES.
SO THE IDEA OF A SOVEREIGN
00:34:25.56\00:34:29.13
STATE, THE IDEA OF SOME STATES
THAT WERE PROTESTANT, SOME WERE
00:34:29.13\00:34:35.87
CATHOLIC, BUT THIS COMES
STRAIGHT OUT OF THE REFORMATION,
00:34:35.87\00:34:38.71
AND IT'S A PRINCIPLE OF HUMAN,
AND NATIONAL RIGHTS THAT WAS
00:34:38.71\00:34:46.21
ALIEN TO THE OLD WORLD AND
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ECONOMY.
00:34:46.21\00:34:50.35
WE WILL GO BACK TO THAT IF WE
RETRACE ON ALL OF THESE FRONTS,
00:34:50.35\00:34:56.93
THESE STEPS THAT WERE PART OF
THE REFORMATION AND PART OF THE
00:34:56.93\00:35:02.26
DEVELOPMENT OF THE
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
00:35:02.26\00:35:04.83
>> WHAT IS THE DANGER IF WE SAY
IN AMERICA, WE'RE A CHRISTIAN
00:35:04.83\00:35:09.04
NATION. >> YOU
HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT IS
00:35:09.04\00:35:11.24
CHRISTIAN. AND WHO IS CHRISTIAN.
00:35:11.24\00:35:12.84
AND THE
GOVERNMENT DEALS WITH LAWS.
00:35:12.84\00:35:14.81
SO WHO IS A CHRISTIAN?
YOU AND I EVEN WITHIN THE
00:35:14.81\00:35:20.12
ADVENTIST CHURCH, WE
MIGHT HAVE VARYING YOUS.
00:35:20.12\00:35:24.25
YOU STEP OUTSIDE OF THAT, AND
THEY MIGHT BE WORSHIPPING, YOU
00:35:24.25\00:35:28.32
KNOW, IMAGES AND -- AND SO
ON, AND STILL CALL THEMSELVES
00:35:28.32\00:35:33.23
CHRISTIAN. OR THEY
MIGHT BE -- YOU KNOW,
00:35:33.23\00:35:35.93
THE CHRISTIAN PROSPERITY
GOSPEL. A THOUSAND THINGS.
00:35:35.93\00:35:41.64
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT EVEN THE
MODERN DAY ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH
00:35:41.64\00:35:47.14
WHEN IT GAINS POWER IS GOING TO
GRANT TO ALL, THE PROTECTION AND
00:35:47.14\00:35:51.85
RIGHT OF BEING PART OF WHAT
THEY SAY IS THE BODY OF CHRIST.
00:35:51.85\00:35:58.49
THE EUNICETY OF SALVATION SAID
VERY PLAIN THEY ARE CHRISTIAN IN
00:35:58.49\00:36:04.43
A CERTAIN SENSE, BUT
THERE ARE SEPARATED SENSES.
00:36:04.43\00:36:12.80
IT IS VERY OMINOUS. >>
MATTER IN FACT JULY 12, 2007,
00:36:12.80\00:36:19.94
WHEN THE POPE SAID OTHER
CHURCHES ARE NOT CHRISTIAN.
00:36:19.94\00:36:23.41
THIS IS THE ONLY
CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
00:36:23.41\00:36:24.41
>> YEAH. >> 75 TO
100 MILLION PROTESTANTS
00:36:24.41\00:36:29.62
UNDER THE WORLD ALLIANCE OF
REFORM CHURCHES REBUTTALED THAT
00:36:29.62\00:36:34.19
AND SAID HOW CAN YOU --
>> WELL, IT WAS A SHOCKING
00:36:34.19\00:36:38.29
WAKE-UP CAL. IF YOU
TALK ABOUT RELIGIOUS
00:36:38.29\00:36:43.16
FREEDOM THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO
SAY THAT, BUT NOT TO IMPOSE IT.
00:36:43.16\00:36:47.54
>> RIGHT. >> AND
HOW WILL THEY IMPOSE IT?
00:36:47.54\00:36:51.21
WHEN THEY ALIGN
WITH STATE POWER.
00:36:51.21\00:36:53.61
THAT'S WHY IT HAS BEEN SUCH
A PROTECTIVE ENABLING ELEMENT.
00:36:53.61\00:36:59.95
WE DON'T REALIZE, EVEN PEOPLE
WHO READ HISTORY, WHAT ANOMALY
00:36:59.95\00:37:06.05
THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC IS IN
THE WHOLE STREAM OF HISTORY.
00:37:06.05\00:37:13.73
ADMITTEDLY ENGLAND -- IT HAS TO
BE ESTABLISHED IN AUSTRALIA AND
00:37:13.73\00:37:18.33
NEW ZEALAND AND CANADA, THEY
HAVE ROUGHLY THE SAME FREEDOM
00:37:18.33\00:37:21.37
AND OPENNESS THAT THE U.S.
HAS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU THEY ARE
00:37:21.37\00:37:25.24
TAKING THEIR READING FROM
THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, AND THIS
00:37:25.24\00:37:35.58
LANDMARK DECISION TO
SEPARATE CHURCH AND STATE.
00:37:35.58\00:37:38.55
AND THERE ARE SOME GOOD
PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANT TO GAIN
00:37:38.55\00:37:43.66
POLITICAL POWER, THEY THINK
TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
00:37:43.66\00:37:47.03
THAT IS SORT OF THEIR THING.
WE WILL BE GREAT AS WE USE THE
00:37:47.03\00:37:51.27
POWER OF LAW TO PROTECT OUR
CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS IDENTITY.
00:37:51.27\00:37:55.54
BUT IT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS
FIRST COERCION, AND SECONDLY A
00:37:55.54\00:38:05.38
DISCRIMINATION ON THE
PART OF THE GOVERNMENT.
00:38:05.38\00:38:06.88
WHO IS THIS CHRISTIAN
CITIZEN? >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:38:06.88\00:38:10.55
YOU HAVE TO
DEFINE THE PARAMETERS.
00:38:10.55\00:38:13.56
>> AND THE CHANCES OF A
GOVERNMENT BEING RIGHT ON
00:38:13.56\00:38:17.23
ANYTHING OF THAT FINE
DISTINCTION ARE MINIMAL.
00:38:17.23\00:38:21.43
>> ANY TIME THESE STATEMENTS ARE
MADE FROM A POWER THAT IS ALMOST
00:38:21.43\00:38:27.77
ENCOMPASSING THE WORLD, THEY
AGENDA IS NOT GOING TO BE PUSHED
00:38:27.77\00:38:37.95
ASIDE. THE COMMENT
WAS MADE YOU BELIEVE
00:38:37.95\00:38:41.52
IN RELIGIOUS FREEDOM WHEN YOU
APPEAL TO THE STATE TO ENFORCE
00:38:41.52\00:38:50.93
YOURS LAWS. SO WHEN
WE HAVE THESE ISSUES
00:38:50.93\00:38:54.03
THAT ARE NOT NEW IN AMERICA,
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN AMERICA,
00:38:54.03\00:38:58.13
AMERICA IS STILL THE LAND OF
THE FREE, THE HOME OF THE BRAVE.
00:38:58.13\00:39:02.10
WE HAVE TO BE BRAVE TO
BE LIVING THE WAY WE ARE.
00:39:02.10\00:39:06.91
BUT IF AMERICA IS A NATION THAT
IS GOING TO OFFER FREEDOM TO ALL
00:39:06.91\00:39:10.38
OF ITS CITIZENS, WE HAVE TO KEEP
IN MINE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE
00:39:10.38\00:39:16.22
CANNOT AFFORD TO ENFORCE THE
BELIEFS OF ANY ONE SINGLE POWER.
00:39:16.22\00:39:20.52
>> ANY TIME THAT HAS HAPPENED IN
WORLD HISTORY, IT HAS TURNED OUT
00:39:20.52\00:39:27.73
BADLY. BECAUSE SOMEBODY GETS
00:39:27.73\00:39:32.07
PERSECUTED.
VATICAN 2, I HOPE EVERYBODY
00:39:32.07\00:39:38.61
UNDERSTANDS, THERE WAS A PIVOTAL
CONFERENCE CALLED, THE ROMAN
00:39:38.61\00:39:44.48
CATHOLIC PRIESTS, AND
CARDINALS, ALL GOT TOGETHER.
00:39:44.48\00:39:51.65
AND IT WENT OVER SEVERAL YEARS.
AND IT REALLY WAS A BREATHE OF
00:39:51.65\00:39:57.93
FRESH AIR IN ROMAN CATHOLICISM.
THEY GOT AWAY FROM THE
00:39:57.93\00:40:03.70
OBLIGATION TO
HAVE THE LATIN MASS.
00:40:03.70\00:40:05.97
IT MADE THEIR SERVICES
MORE ACCESSIBLE TO MANY PEOPLE.
00:40:05.97\00:40:12.87
BUT FROM A RELIGIOUS DIGNITY
PERSPECTIVE, FATHER McMURRAY WAS
00:40:12.87\00:40:23.05
REALLY PIVOTAL FOR THE FIRST
TIME EVER, AND VERY IMPORTANTLY,
00:40:23.05\00:40:30.39
AFTER THE COUNCIL OF TRENT,
WHICH FOLLOWED THE REFORMATION
00:40:30.39\00:40:36.00
WHEN ALL HELL WAS UNLEASHED
AGAINST THE PROTESTANTS, THAT
00:40:36.00\00:40:43.24
WAS LEFT. AND HERE
VATICAN 2 PASSED THE
00:40:43.24\00:40:47.31
STATEMENT ABOUT THE DIGNITY OF
MAN, AND IT SAID EVERYBODY HAS
00:40:47.31\00:40:53.25
THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE THEIR
RELIGION AND TO NOT BE COERCED.
00:40:53.25\00:40:58.19
AND THAT HAD NEVER BEEN DONE
BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH BEFORE.
00:40:58.19\00:41:02.72
AND IT EXPLAINS
THE NEW OPENNESS.
00:41:02.72\00:41:07.30
THE TROUBLE IS, I
BELIEVE IT IS A SUPERFICIAL FIX.
00:41:07.30\00:41:15.04
>> MATTER FACT THE BISHOPS
ASKED ROME, IS THIS ADVANCING A
00:41:15.04\00:41:25.41
CHANGE? SO IT BECAME SOMEWHAT
00:41:25.41\00:41:29.55
CONTROVERSIAL.
>> AND IT STILL IS.
00:41:29.55\00:41:39.29
I WAS AT A WONDERFUL ALL-DAY
SEMINAR AT A CATHOLIC UNIVERSITY
00:41:39.29\00:41:45.30
A FEW YEARS AGO AND IT
WAS OVERWHELMINGLY ROMAN
00:41:45.30\00:41:52.97
CATHOLICS THERE.
AND I WENT THERE TO HEAR
00:41:52.97\00:41:58.01
CARDINAL DOLEN WHO WAS THE HEAD
OF THE U.S. CATHOLIC BISHOPS.
00:41:58.01\00:42:06.62
VERY LIKABLE PERSON. AND
HE WAS THE FIRST SPEAKER,
00:42:06.62\00:42:11.69
AND I SAT AT A TABE, AND I
WAS LISTENING TO THEM TALK ABOUT
00:42:11.69\00:42:18.50
THEIR COMMITMENT
TO RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
00:42:18.50\00:42:26.61
AND HE WAS CARRYING WORTH ON
THIS, AND GETTING ON TO THEIR
00:42:26.61\00:42:31.45
OPPOSITION TO OBAMACARE, WHICH
I THINK IS A FORCED CONFLICT.
00:42:31.45\00:42:37.12
AND I WAS CLOSE ENOUGH TO
SEE HIM AS HE WAS TALKING.
00:42:37.12\00:42:40.49
AND IN MY VIEW, HE WAS GIVING
HIS VIEW, BUT WAS HAVING A
00:42:40.49\00:42:45.53
LITTLE DISCUSSION INSIDE.
AND HE REACHED THE BUFFER, AND
00:42:45.53\00:42:48.93
THERE WAS NOTHING MORE TO
COME. AND HE STOPPED AND LOOKED
00:42:48.93\00:42:52.63
AROUND, AND HE SAID ROMAN
CATHOLICS IN THE PAST WOULD NOT
00:42:52.63\00:42:57.04
HAVE SPOKEN THIS WAY
ABOUT RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
00:42:57.04\00:43:00.61
HE SAID ROMAN CATHOLICS ONCE
HELD THAT ERROR HAS NO RIGHTS.
00:43:00.61\00:43:06.25
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
AND THEN HE CONTINUED.
00:43:06.25\00:43:09.02
AND IT WAS A BOMBSHELL. HE
FLOPPED DOWN NEXT TO ME ALL
00:43:09.02\00:43:13.92
HAPPY. SO I TALKED
TO HIM BRIEFLY, AND
00:43:13.92\00:43:17.43
INVITED HIM TO VISIT OUR
HEADQUARTERS, WHICH NEVER
00:43:17.43\00:43:22.90
HAPPENED. BUT THEY
HAD A SHORT BREAK AND
00:43:22.90\00:43:25.57
THEN WENT TO THE NEXT SESSION.
WHERE THERE WAS A THEOLOGIAN,
00:43:25.57\00:43:34.14
AND A HISTORIAN.
IMMEDIATELY THE AUDIENCE YELLED
00:43:34.14\00:43:39.15
OUT. WHAT WAS
THE CARDINAL TALKING
00:43:39.15\00:43:42.02
ABOUT? AND THEY SPENT THE ENTIRE
00:43:42.02\00:43:46.05
ONE-HOUR SESSION TELLING
CATHOLICS ABOUT WHAT WE JUST
00:43:46.05\00:43:49.56
WENT THROUGH.
THEY HAD TO BE TOLD.
00:43:49.56\00:43:51.76
THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT. AND
I BELIEVE IT'S AN INDICATOR
00:43:51.76\00:43:54.73
THAT THERE'S A SEA CHANGE,
VATICAN 2 IS NOT UNIVERSALLY
00:43:54.73\00:44:00.80
ACCEPTED, AND THE DAY THAT
VATICAN 2 IS OPENLY PUT ASIDE,
00:44:00.80\00:44:05.34
WATCH OUT. THERE
WILL BE NO DANGER AS LONG
00:44:05.34\00:44:08.18
AS THERE'S NOT
POLITICAL POWER AVAILABLE.
00:44:08.18\00:44:11.05
BUT I SAID IT IN "LIBERTY"
BEFORE, I HAVE METRO MAN
00:44:11.05\00:44:16.65
CATHOLICS. I HAV
NO PERSONAL BEEF WITH
00:44:16.65\00:44:18.62
THEM AT ALL. FOR ALL
I KNOW, THEY ARE AS GOOD
00:44:18.62\00:44:22.89
OR BETTER CHRISTIANS THAN I AM.
BUT THE SYSTEM THEY ARE PART OF,
00:44:22.89\00:44:28.90
I DON'T BELIEVE SHOULD BE GIVEN
POLITICAL POWER, BECAUSE IT'S
00:44:28.90\00:44:34.20
THE STRUCTURE THAT
IS THE MOST DANGEROUS.
00:44:34.20\00:44:37.91
HERE WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT
AT GREAT LOSS OF LIFE THROUGH
00:44:37.91\00:44:44.45
THE REFORMATION, IS NOW FOUNDED
UPON THIS SEPARATION PRINCIPLE,
00:44:44.45\00:44:49.58
AND IT SOCIETALLY WAS BASED
ON A BIBLE-BASED PROTESTANTISM.
00:44:49.58\00:44:58.93
TO SEE THAT GO, AND HAND THE
KEYS EITHER DIRECTLY OR THROUGH
00:44:58.93\00:45:06.03
PROXIES IS DANGEROUS.
THAT'S A CRITICISM OF ANY
00:45:06.03\00:45:11.41
RELIGIOUS ENTITY THAT
WANTS TO WIELD THE STORE.
00:45:11.41\00:45:15.38
>> HISTORY IS
CONFIRMED BY PROPHECY.
00:45:15.38\00:45:19.71
HISTORY IS NOT
DEVELOPED -- PROPHECY IS NOT
00:45:19.71\00:45:23.45
DEVELOPED BY -- WHEN I TALK
ABOUT ROME, THIS IS PRETTY MUCH
00:45:23.45\00:45:29.52
PAGAN ROME. THIS
WILL BE A RELIGIOUS
00:45:29.52\00:45:37.23
POLITICAL POWER. SO
ROME HAS NOT LOST ITS FORMER
00:45:37.23\00:45:41.30
DESIRES, BUT AMERICA,
REALISTICALLY -- AND WE CAN TALK
00:45:41.30\00:45:44.27
ABOUT THIS -- AND WE ARE GOING
TO BRING UP THINGS LIKE THE 1954
00:45:44.27\00:45:50.05
JOHNSON AMENDMENT -- >> I
WOULD RATHER SEE IT ANOTHER
00:45:50.05\00:45:54.82
WAY. IT'S THE HUMAN TENDENCY IN
00:45:54.82\00:45:57.72
DEALING WITH RELIGION, AND WHEN
IT IS GIVEN POWERS, IT SUBVERTS
00:45:57.72\00:46:05.83
ITSELF. I HAVE NO
QUESTION IF THERE WERE
00:46:05.83\00:46:09.80
100 MILLION SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTISTS, AND WE WERE GIVEN
00:46:09.80\00:46:12.63
POLITICAL POWER IN ANY COUNTRY,
WE WOULD PROBABLY SOON BE
00:46:12.63\00:46:17.84
PUTTING PEOPLE IN JAIL BECAUSE
OF NOT VIEWING THE SABBATH.
00:46:17.84\00:46:21.84
>> AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE IMPOSITION OF ONE'S BELIEF
00:46:21.84\00:46:26.35
SYSTEM ON THE
MINORITY IN SOCIETY.
00:46:26.35\00:46:28.65
>> THAT'S RIGHT. BUT
TRUE RELIGIOUS LIBERTY
00:46:28.65\00:46:35.36
SHOULD ALLOW ANYONE TO
BELIEVE WHAT THEY WANT.
00:46:35.36\00:46:38.13
AND I SEE THE
FORGETTING OF THIS REAL DYNAMIC.
00:46:38.13\00:46:41.93
IT'S NOT EASILY
EXPRESSED FOR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
00:46:41.93\00:46:46.30
IT'S ON SPEECH. THERE
ARE CERTAIN THINGS THEY
00:46:46.30\00:46:49.20
DON'T WANT TO BE
SHARED IN THE PUBLIC.
00:46:49.20\00:46:52.14
AND ADMITTEDLY WITH TERRORISM
ON THE RISE, YOU HAVE TO BE
00:46:52.14\00:46:56.75
CAREFUL. BUT WE
NEED TO STAY THE COURSE,
00:46:56.75\00:46:59.91
BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN SAID AND
PEOPLE SEEM NOT TO LISTEN TO,
00:46:59.91\00:47:06.25
FREEDOM OF SPEECH MEANS NOTHING
UNLESS YOU PROTECT OBJECTIONABLE
00:47:06.25\00:47:12.43
SPEECH. RELIGIOUS
FREEDOM MEANS NOTHING
00:47:12.43\00:47:17.67
UNLESS YOU PROTECT THE MOST
QUESTIONABLE RELIGIOUS BELIEF.
00:47:17.67\00:47:21.54
>> I WANT TO REITERATE
THAT. RELIGIOUS FREEDOM IS NOT
00:47:21.54\00:47:27.94
RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
UNLESS IT IS FOR ALL.
00:47:27.94\00:47:29.81
>> RIGHT. >> I
CANNOT SAY -- I MAY SAY I
00:47:29.81\00:47:34.45
DISAGREE WITH YOU, BUT THE
MOMENT I IMPOSE MY BELIEFS TO
00:47:34.45\00:47:38.59
THE LIMITATIONS OF YOUR
BELIEF, IT'S NO LONGER RELIGIOUS
00:47:38.59\00:47:44.56
FREEDOM. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:47:44.56\00:47:46.29
AND THIS RADICAL ISLAMIC
VIOLENCE, WHICH CLEARLY DOESN'T
00:47:46.29\00:47:54.54
REPRESENT EVERY MUSLIM, BUT IT'S
PROVOKING A RESPONSE THAT WILL
00:47:54.54\00:47:59.51
BE THE DEATH NAIL FOR
RELIGIOUS LIBERTY OF ALL OF US.
00:47:59.51\00:48:06.41
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
WE NEED TO SEE THESE AS
00:48:06.41\00:48:10.49
ILLEGAL ACTS AND NOT
TURN AGAINST THE RELIGION.
00:48:10.49\00:48:15.66
>> AND WE HAVE
SEEN THAT IN WARS.
00:48:15.66\00:48:17.86
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A
SOMETIME WHEN THE KOREANS WERE
00:48:17.86\00:48:20.46
THE OBJECT DURING THE WAR.
THE JAPANESES WERE TAKEN INTO
00:48:20.46\00:48:27.40
PRISON CAMPS. THIS HAS
PAPPED NATION BY NATION
00:48:27.40\00:48:31.61
BY NATION, WHEN THEY DECIDED
FOR THE BER -- BETTERMENT OF
00:48:31.61\00:48:39.95
SOCIETY, LET'S JAIL
THEM. >> THERE HAS BEEN PUBLIC
00:48:39.95\00:48:46.92
DISCUSSION ABOUT LOCKING
UP WHOLE RELIGIOUS GROUPS.
00:48:46.92\00:48:50.29
AND CITING THE
LOOKING UP OF THE JAPANESE.
00:48:50.29\00:48:53.96
IT'S NOT PAST TENSE. AND
IT WAS SAID THAT PRESIDENT
00:48:53.96\00:49:04.57
ROOSEVELT ACTED
WITHIN HIS RIGHTS TO DO SO.
00:49:04.57\00:49:06.91
>> NOW I WANT TO OPEN UP ANOTHER
CAN, AND I WANT TO PRIME OUR
00:49:06.91\00:49:11.85
LISTENERS AND VIEWERS.
IF YO WANT TO SEND YOUR
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QUESTIONS IN, YOU CAN SEND
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EMAIL. OR CALL 618-627-4651.
00:49:21.06\00:49:27.83
THAT'S 618-627-4651.
NOW WITH THIS MOST RECENT
00:49:27.83\00:49:30.83
POLITICAL -- YOU KNOW, THERE WAS
SO MUCH THAT HAPPENED OVER THE
00:49:30.83\00:49:33.67
LAST TWO YEARS -- >>
THE WORLD HAS BEEN GAGA OVER
00:49:33.67\00:49:37.67
THIS. >> BUT ONE
OF THE BIGGER ISSUES
00:49:37.67\00:49:40.54
THE 1954 JOHNSON AMENDMENT
CONSTITUTIONAL OR -- YEAH,
00:49:40.54\00:49:46.01
CONSTITUTIONAL.
THIS ISSUE THAT RELIGIOUS
00:49:46.01\00:49:49.82
ORGAN ORGANIZATIONS, NON-PROFIT
00:49:49.82\00:49:52.89
ORGANIZATIONS COULD NOT SPEAK
IN FAVORITE OF ANY POLITICAL
00:49:52.89\00:49:58.99
CANDIDATE. >> I
COULD GO TO SOMETHING MORE
00:49:58.99\00:50:00.56
RECENT THAT SHOWS
THE TENOR OF THE TIMES.
00:50:00.56\00:50:06.23
>> OKAY. >> I
PLACED AN ARTICLE IN
00:50:06.23\00:50:09.77
"LIBERTY MAGAZINE," THAT I
REQUESTED FROM THE LATE DEE
00:50:09.77\00:50:13.68
JAMES KENNEDY. VERY
DISTINCT FELLOW, HEADED UP
00:50:13.68\00:50:17.85
THE CORAL GABLES -- I FORGET THE
TITLE OF HIS MINISTRY, BUT HE
00:50:17.85\00:50:22.65
WAS VERY INFLUENTIAL. HE
AND OTHERS OF HIS GENERATION
00:50:22.65\00:50:26.96
WERE AGGRESSIVELY PUSHING FOR
WHAT THEY CALLED THE JONES BILL.
00:50:26.96\00:50:31.79
WHICH IS DEE JAMES KENNEDY
SAID -- I LET HIM PRINT IN
00:50:31.79\00:50:38.57
"LIBERTY," AND I SAID, I'LL
PRINT IT AS YOU SEND IT, BUT
00:50:38.57\00:50:45.91
I'LL WRITE A POSTSCRIPT.
BUT HE WANTED -- AND WAS PUSHING
00:50:45.91\00:50:51.28
CONGRESS. I
KNOW HE WENT AND GAVE
00:50:51.28\00:50:53.28
TESTIMONY A NUMBER
OF TIMES IN WASHINGTON.
00:50:53.28\00:50:56.18
AND HE SAID LET'S
UNBIND THE ARMS OF THE CHURCH.
00:50:56.18\00:50:59.45
LET IT BE INVOLVED IN SOCIETY.
THEY WANTED THE CHURCHES TO HAVE
00:50:59.45\00:51:03.59
THE ABILITY TO RAISE
UNLIMITED POLITICAL FUNDS.
00:51:03.59\00:51:07.00
DONATE TO PARTIES.
TAKE OUT ADVERTISEMENTS FOR
00:51:07.00\00:51:14.70
CANDIDATES. IN
OTHER WORDS TO MAKE THEM
00:51:14.70\00:51:17.01
POLITICAL ACTION GROUPS WITH NO
-LIMIT. AT THE SAME TIME, ONE OF
00:51:17.01\00:51:23.71
THE McCAIN BILLS WAS LIMITING
CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGH
00:51:23.71\00:51:30.55
SECULAR MEANS. THE
SECULAR DONORS WERE BEING
00:51:30.55\00:51:34.06
LIMITED, AND THE CHURCHES,
IF THEY HAD GOTTEN THEIR
00:51:34.06\00:51:37.59
WAY -- [ INAUDIBLE ] WAS BEING
PUSHED HARD FOR A NUMBER OF
00:51:37.59\00:51:41.23
YEARS, AND I
THOUGHT IT WAS GO THROUGH.
00:51:41.23\00:51:45.03
THEY WANTED JUST OPEN DOOR FOR
THE CHURCHES TO -- AND OF COURSE
00:51:45.03\00:51:49.60
AT THAT TIME, IT WAS
SCENE -- THE CHURCHES WOULD
00:51:49.60\00:51:54.21
PROBABLY PROMOTE THE POWERS THAT
WERE IN POWER, SO IT WAS NOT AS
00:51:54.21\00:52:04.09
-OBJECTIONABLE. I THINK IT WAS
GOOD THAT THEY DID NOT SUCCEED.
00:52:04.09\00:52:10.63
HIS VIEW WAS MISBEGOTTEN
AND FLEW IN THE FACE OF THE
00:52:10.63\00:52:15.20
CONSTITUTION ITSELF. THE
INTENT OF THE CONSTITUTION.
00:52:15.20\00:52:18.00
>> SO CONGRESS MAKE
NO LAWS IN FAVOR OF --
00:52:18.00\00:52:21.00
>> RIGHT. ESTABLISHING RELIGION.
00:52:21.00\00:52:24.97
THERE IS A LOT OF REVISIONIST
THINKING GOING ARRANGE ABOUT THE
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SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
AND SOME SAY WITH SOME MALICE,
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
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WELL, IT IS PRETTY TELLING THAT
THOMAS JEFFERSON HAD SO MUCH TO
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DO WITH THE WRITING OF THE
CONSTITUTION, AND THIS PART OF
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IT WAS MODELED AFTER
HIS VIRGINIA STATUTE.
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HE SAID ITTEL -- IT ERECTED A
WALL BETWEEN CHURCH AND STATE.
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BUT IT AVOIDS THE WHOLE HISTORY
AND INTENNING OF THE U.S.
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CONSTITUTION. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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IT'S TO PROTECT
RELIGION, NOT RESTRICT IT.
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>> IT'S NOT BY ACCIDENT THAT
RELIGION IS FAR MORE ACTIVE AND
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PART OF GENERAL LIFE THAN
IN ANY OTHER WESTERN COUNTRY.
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IN ENGLAND, THEY HAVE AN
ESTABLISHED CHURCH, AND IT'S A
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AS DEAD AS DOOR NAIL.
ENGLAND IS INNOVATED BY THIS
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PUBLIC SUPPORT, WHERE THE QUEEN
IS ACTUALLY THE HEAD OF THE
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CHURCH OF ENGLAND. >>
AND MANY OF THE CHURCHES IN
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ENGLAND HAVE PERSONED TO PUBS.
>> YEAH, THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH
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A FACE WHERE THERE WAS
ONE -- ARCHBISHOP A FEW YEARS
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AGO, HE WAS PORTRAYED IN
THE MEDIA AS THE ATHEIST.
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BECAUSE HE DIDN'T BELIEVE IN THE
VIRGIN BIRTH OR THE RESURRECTION
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OF CHRIST. >> UH-HUH.
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>> IT HAPPENED BACK IN
GERMANY AS WELL AS ENGLAND.
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CHURCH POSITIONS WERE BOUGHT AND
SOLD AS BENEFICIARIES AND SO ON.
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THEY DIDN'T RELATE TO SPIRITUAL
EXPERTISE OR DEDICATION MOST
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TIMES. >> SO
WHAT MAKES AMERICA A
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UNIQUE COUNTRY AS FAR
AS ITS FORM OF GOVERNMENT?
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>> EVERY COUNTRY IS UNIQUE
TO ITSELF, GEORGE W. BUSH ONCE
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SAID, AMERICA IS -- IS BEING
BLESSED OF GOD, AND HE COULDN'T
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HAVE BLESSED
MORE DESERVING PEOPLE.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> IT'S
ILLOGICAL, BUT I THINK
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THE PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC.
AND APART OF THE INDIANS, IT WAS
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A RELATIVELY EMPTY CORRIDOR.
AND I THINK IT WAS PROVIDENTIAL
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THAT A NUMBER OF THESE
POLITICAL LEADERS HAD NOT GREAT
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SPIRITUALITY, BUT THEY
HAD -- THEY HAD LEARNED THE
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LESSONS OF THE OLD WORLD, AND
THE ESTABLISHED CHURCH, AND THEY
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CONSCIOUSLY SEPARATED IT.
AND I ALSO -- WHAT IS VERY P
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PERTEN IN INNOCENT TO THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE ITSELF IS
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IN ABOUT 1750, THEREABOUTS,
THERE WAS WHAT WAS OWN AS THE
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FIRST GREAT AWAKENING.
>> RELIGIOUS AWAKENING.
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>> THAT'S RIGH. IT
SWEPT THE ENTIRE 13 COLONIES.
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AND THEY STARTED TO SEE KING
GEORGE OF ENGLAND AS OPPOSED TO
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THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
AND EVEN AS AN ANTI CHRIST.
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AN ANTI CHRIST IS SOMEONE WHO
IS SO OPPOSED TO THE TRUTH, SO
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THAT'S WHY -- ONE OF THE
BIG REASONS WHY THE AMERICAN
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REVOLUTION REALLY
HAD SUCH FUR -- FERVOR.
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THEY HAD THIS MORAL SENSE
THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR TRUTH AND
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FOR -- FOR THE PROTESTANT WAY
OF LIFE, AND THEY WERE GOING TO
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DEFEND IT ON THESE
SHORES. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> AND YET IT'S AMAZING TO TRACE
THE PAALLEL DEVELOPMENTS OF THE
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RIGHTS OF MAN WHICH ARE NOT
TOTALLY OUT OF THE RELIGIOUS
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CONTEXT, BUT THE AWAKING OF
THE SECULAR IDENTITY OF MAN KIND
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WHICH IS IN THE DECLARATION
OF INDEPENDENCE, NATURE, AND NA
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NATURE'S GOD.
THAT'S THE GOD OF REASON --
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>> A PSEUDO GOD. >>
WHICH FRANCE ENSHRINED, THE
00:57:09.86\00:57:16.43
GODDESS OF REASON. IT
AWAKENED RESPONSIBILITY,
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WARNED BY A SECULAR
SENSE OF SELF IDENTITY.
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THEY PUT THIS CLEAVER BETWEEN
RELIGION AND STATE POWER, AND IT
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HAS WORKED WONDERFULLY. >> OKAY.
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I TELL YOU THERE ARE
A LOT OF HEATED ISSUES.
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HACKSAW RIDGE, THE THROW
BACK ON WHAT THAT MEANS TO US.
00:57:38.25\00:57:41.92
BUT STAY TUNED. WE
HAVE A LOT MORE TO COVER IN
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OUR SECOND HOUR.
AND DON'T GO AWAY.
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WE'LL BE BACK IN
JUST A FEW MOMENTS.
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