>>> WELCOME BACK
TO 3ABN "TODAY LIVE."
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YOU KNOW, YVONNE, IN 32 YEARS, I
NEVER PLAYED THE PIANO ON 3ABN.
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THEY TOLD ME TO WALK OUT JUST AS
YOU WERE CLOSING, AND I HAD 15
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SECONDS. SO I
WALKED OUT SAT DOWN, AND
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THERE WAS NO AUDIO.
I THINK IT WAS A SETUP.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> BUT
ANYWAY, IT TOOK UP 15
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SECONDS -- DIDN'T IT? >> DID.
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>> WE HAVE MOLLIE STEENSON,
JILL, AND BRIAN, AND WE HAVE HAD
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A GREAT PROGRAM SO FAR.
I THEY BECAUSE WE FELT AN
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ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
MAYBE IN SPITE OF SOME OF US.
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THANK YOU FOR THAT
SONG. WHAT A GORGEOUS SONG.
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>> UH-HUH. >>
BRIAN, YVONNE WAS TALKING
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ABOUT PRISON, AND SHE WAS
INVOLVED LAST WEEK IN PRISON
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MINISTRY, BUT THAT REALLY --
YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF 3ABN PRISON
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MINISTRY. >> YEAH.
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>> AND SO SHE SAYS I'M SO GLAD
BRIAN GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY.
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BUT I ALSO HEAR YOU HAD JILL.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS
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LAST WEEKEND.
BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD SO MANY
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GREAT REPORTS. >>
YES, WE JOINED UP WITH
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CHRISTMAS BEHIND BARS.
THEY PUT TOGETHER GIFT PACKAGES.
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AND THI WAS THE
WOMEN'S MAXIMUM SECURITY.
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TWO WOMEN'S
PRISONS IN -- IN ILLINOIS.
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THIS IS ONE OF TWO
OF THEM. >> UH-HUH.
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>> AND THEY ALSO HAVE A
MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY THERE FOR
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INMATES THAT HAVE
THAT -- HAVE THAT ISSUES.
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>> UH-HUH. >> AND SO
WE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM
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FROM 3ABN TO JOIN US AND BRING
THE SPIRITUAL PROGRAMMING FOR
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THAT EVENT. SO IT IS
AN ALL-DAY SABBATH FROM
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8:30 UNTIL ABOUT
5:00, 5:30 IN THE EVENING.
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SUNDAY WE DID THE TWO
SERVICES IN THE MORNING.
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PACKED OUT THE GYM. THE
LADIES WERE JUST SO BLESSED.
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YOU COULD TELL
BY THEIR RESPONSES.
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AND YVONNE SANG AND
SHARED HER TESTIMONY.
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AND THEN JILL, SHE SHARED A
MESSAGE THAT WAS JUST RIGHT FOR
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THE LADIES. >> IT WAS EXCELLENT.
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WHAT A BLESSING. >> IT
WAS SUCH A BLESSING TO GO
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AND BE PART OF THE TEAM.
AND YVONNE I KNOW YOU DID THE
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JAIL MINISTRY MONDAY
NIGHTS HERE AT OUR LOCAL JAIL.
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HAVE YOU DONE IT
FOUR OR FIVE YEARS?
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>> YEAH, AT LEAST FOUR.
>> IT HAS BEEN QUITE A WHILE.
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BUT THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME TO GO
IN WITH CHRISTMAS BEHIND BARS,
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AND BRIAN AND DIANE AND MY
HUSBAND WAS THERE, AND JASON WAS
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THERE, IT WAS AN
INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE.
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MOTHER LEMYULE IS ANOINTED.
AND WHEN HE SHARED, THE GIRLS
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CONNECTED WITH THA.
BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN THERE.
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I REMEMBER THERE WAS A WOMAN
NAMED TAMMY, AND SHE SAID I HAVE
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BEEN HERE 27 YEARS. >> WOW.
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>> THAT'S A LONG TIME.
AND SHE SAID NEVER IN MY WHOLE
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TIME HERE HAVE I EVER
EXPERIENCED ANYONE COMING IN AND
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LOVING US, AND GIVING US
STUFF LIKE THIS, IN 27 YEARS.
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>> WOW. >> SO
THE WOMEN THERE ARE
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STARVED FOR THE GOSPEL
FOR LEARNING ABOUT JESUS.
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AND SUCH A PRIVILEGE TO BE PART
OF THE HANDS AND FEET OF JESUS,
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AND TO REACH OUT AND MINISTER.
IT REMINDS ME OF ISAIAH 61.
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I WAS READING IT THIS MORNING.
THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS UPON
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ME BECAUSE THE LORD HAS ANOINTED
ME TO PREACH GOOD TIDINGS TO THE
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POOR, AND PROCLAIM LIBERTY TO
THE CAPTIVES, THE OPENING OF THE
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PRISON TO THOSE WHO ARE BOUND.
AND THAT'S WHAT GOD CALLS EACH
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ONE OF US TO DO, TO MINISTER.
AND THAT WEEKEND OPENED THOSE
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PRISON BARS, NOT LITERALLY, BUT
IN THEIR HEART, AND GOD CAME TO
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SET EACH ONE OF
US FREE. >> UH-HUH.
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>> IT WAS INCREDIBLE.
>> IT REALLY DID, JILL.
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YOU KNOW, THIS WAS SO LIKE
JESUS, BECAUSE JESUS -- BEFORE
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HE GAVE THEM THE WORD, HE WAS
HEAL, AND HE MET PEOPLE AT THEIR
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POINT OF NEED. HE FED
THOSE WHO WERE HUNGRY,
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AND THEN HE WOULD GIVE THE WORD.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE DID.
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THEY WERE SO MUCH MORE RECEPTIVE
TO GETTING THE WORD, BECAUSE
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THEY HAD RECEIVED
THE GIFTS. >> UH-HUH.
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>> AND -- AND SO IT OPENED THE
DOORS TO THEIR HEARTS, AND THEY
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WERE READY TO RECEIVE THE WORD,
AND SO THEY RECEIVED THE GIFTS
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ON SABBATH AND THEN ON
SUNDAY -- WELL, THEY GOT THE
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WORD TOO ON --
SABBATH WAS IT WAS A BLESSING.
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THE WHOLE THING TO ME
WAS JUST SO ANOINTING.
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>> AND JASON
SHARING HIS TESTIMONY --
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>> IT WAS POWERFUL
WASN'T IT? >> UH-HUH.
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>> THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO,
BRIAN IN BRINGING THIS MINISTRY
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AND OPENING OUR EYES TO MAKE IT
PART OF 3ABN, YOU AND DIANE, IT
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HAS BEEN SUCH A BLESSING,
AND GETTING TH TELEVISION
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PROGRAMMING -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE
GETTING IN AS MANY PRISONS AS WE
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CAN AROUND AMERICA.
WE'RE STILL WORKING ON ADDING
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MORE. SO I JUST -- GO AHEAD.
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>> YEAH, THIS IS YEAR END,
SO I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE PLUG
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HERE. WE HAVE HAD
KIND OF A TOUGH YEAR
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FINANCIALLY. >> YES.
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>> IT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAD TO
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HOLD UP WITH, WE USED TO PROVIDE
STUDY BIBLES FOR INMATES, AND I
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HAD TO PUT THAT ON HOLD.
WE HAVE A LIST OF 300 NAMES OF
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INMATES WHO HAVE
REQUESTED TO HAVE A STUDY BIBLE.
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>> WOW. >> THAT IS
SOMETHING THAT MOST
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OF THEM CAN'T AFFORD.
THEY HARDLY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY
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FOR TOOTHPASTE AND
THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
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>> YEAH. >> SO
IT'S A REAL TREAT.
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IT'S A REAL BLESSING
TO HAVE A STUDY BIBLE.
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SO IF ANYONE OUT THERE WHO IS
VIEWING THIS PROGRAM WOULD LIKE
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TO HELP US AT YEAR END TO BE
ABLE TO FILL THOSE 300 REQUESTS
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FOR A STUDY BIBLE FOR AN INMATE
IN PRISON, JUST SEND US A LITTLE
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DONATION THAT WOULD HELP
US IN THAT END -- TO FILL THAT
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REQUEST. THAT WOULD
BE REALLY A BLESSING.
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>> GREAT. OKAY.
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MOLLY SUE YOU HAVE GOT A WORD
FOR US, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO
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INTRODUCE THE
DEVOTIONAL BOOK OF THE YEAR.
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BUT MOLLY ALWAYS HAS
SOMETHING GOOD FOR US.
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>> WAS ABLE TO RECEIVE
VICARIOUSLY FROM THAT PRISON
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MINISTRY THAT
WENT ON THIS WEEKEND.
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BECAUSE THIS MORNING IN WORSHIP,
WE HAVE WORSHIP IN THE MORNINGS,
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JILL HAD TO EFFERVESCE, IT
WAS JUST FLOWING OUT OF HER.
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WHEN THEY GO THERE, ALL OF THE
PEOPLE WITH BLESSED, BUT THEN
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YOU ARE ALL BLESSED. AND
THEN BRIAN COMES IN AND THEN
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HERE IS YVONNE. SO
DANNY, I THANK GOD THAT I
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HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
AROUND GODLY PEOPLE THAT ARE
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FULL OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND
HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE A
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PART OF THE MINISTRY OF 3ABN.
I AM SO BLESSED, OF ALL WOMEN
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THAT I KNOW, I AM
ONE OF THE MOST BLESSED.
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THIS YEAR, WE HAVE HAD SOME
HEALTH CHALLENGES, AND BOTH OF
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US ARE DOING
WELL AND IMPROVING --
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>> PRAISE THE LORD. >>
AND THAT IS THE POWER OF ALL
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MIGHTY GOD. WE WERE
JUST TALKING THE OTHER
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DAY, THINGS
COULD BE SO MUCH WORSE.
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AND WE ARE
REJOICING. >> PRAISE THE LORD.
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>>  WELL, WE
NEED TO MOVE QUICKLY.
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BUT THIS YEAR THE DEVOTIONAL
BOOK OF THE YEAR, MOMENTS WITH
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GOD. >> MOMENTS WITH GOD.
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AND DEVOTIONAL BOOKS ARE SO
IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THEY GIVE YOU
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BITE-SIZED PIECES OF THOUGHTS
THAT YOU CAN CARRY WITH YOU ALL
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DAY, AND CHEW ON ALL DAY,
AND THIS ONE JUST LOOKS AMAZING.
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>> UH-HUH. >> SO
THIS LOOKS LIKE A
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WONDERFUL BOOK. >>
BRENDA HAS BEEN WRITING
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DEVOTIONALS ON FACEBOOK FOR
ABOUT SEVEN YEARS, BUT THIS IS
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ALSO NOT ONLY THE BOOK, BUT
YOU CAN GET IT -- IT'S ACTUALLY
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AUDIO. I THINK 12 AUDIO CD'S OR
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SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO
IF YOU SAY, HEY, I DON'T HAVE
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TIME TO READ, WELL, IF YOU ARE
DRIVING TO WORK OR WHEREVER YOU
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ARE GOING, YOU CAN
GET THE AUDIO BOOK.
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>> WHERE DOES SHE GET
THE TIME FOR ALL OF THIS?
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SHE IS JUST INCREDIBLE. >>
I WOULD SAY ON THE AIRPLANES
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BECAUSE SHE IS TRAVELING A
LOT, BUT WHEN SHE IS ON THE
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AIRPLANES, SHE IS ALWAYS TALKING
TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE LORD.
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SO -- >> THIS IS WONDERFUL.
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>> IT REALLY IS. AND
YOU CAN GET IT RIGHT HERE AT
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3ABN OR AT ANY OF
THE ABC STORES, JILL?
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>> THAT'S RIGHT. ANY
OF THE ABC STORES CARRY IT
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AS WELL. IT IS THE
ADULT DEVOTIONAL BOOK
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FOR 2017 AND THEY PACKAGE
IT WITH THE EL -- ELLEN WHITE
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DEVOTIONAL. >>
AND WHILE WE'RE ON TO
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PROMOTING THINGS, TIM
PARTON ISN'T HE AMAZING.
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>> AMAZING. >> HIS
VOICE JUST SEEMS TO
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CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.
WHAT AN AMAZING GIFT.
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TIM HAS A CHRISTMAS CD THAT IS
INSTRUMENTAL AND I THINK HE HAS
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A COUPLE OF OTHER CD'S, SO IF
YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT HIM,
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HE IS RIGHT HERE ON THE 3ABN
CAMPUS, BUT HAS HIS OWN ADDRESS.
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SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO
SUPPORT HIM, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE
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FOLLOWING ADDRESS,
AND YOU CAN GO TO IT.
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¤ >> IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT
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TIM PARTON OR PURCHASE ONE
OF HIS CDS WRITE TO HIM AT 3199
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CHARLIE GOOD RODE, WEST
FRANKFORT, ILLINOIS 62896.
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YOU CAN ALSO CALL
HIM AT 931-265-3112.
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THAT'S
931-265-3112. CONTACT HIM TODAY.
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HE WOULD LOVE
TO HEAR FROM YOU. ¤
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>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE
ALWAYS ENJOYED IS -- THE LETTERS
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THAT I GET, OR WHEN WE GO OUT
TO CHURCHES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
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GIVEN THEIR LIVES TO JESUS
THROUGH WATCHING OR LISTENING TO
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3ABN ON RADIO OR INTERNET, SO
MANY WAYS NOW THAT YOU CAN GET
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3ABN. BUT I AM
ALWAYS BLESSED BECAUSE
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THAT'S REALLY
WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
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SOMETIMES IN LIFE
WE DO CERTAIN THINGS.
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WE DON'T GET TO SEE RESULTS.
AND HOPEFULLY, SHOULD WE MAKE IT
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TO HEAVEN, WE'LL GET TO MEET
PEOPLE THAT COME UP AND SAY,
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HEY, WE WATCHED 3ABN.
BUT SOMETIMES YOU DO WORK AND
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YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET TO
SEE THE FRUITS OF THE LABOR.
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AND WHEN WE STARTED THIS,
WE WANTED TO BE A BLESSING TO
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PEOPLE, BUT I HAVE SEEN THAT
PEOPLE ARE MORE OF A BLESSING TO
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US. JILL TELL US
WHAT WE'RE GETTING
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READY TO SEE. >>
YEAH, IT'S AN INCREDIBLE
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INTERVIEW. I
REMEMBER I WAS AT MY DESK, AND
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ROY HUNT STOPPED BY, AND HE SAID
THERE IS A 3ABN TESTIMONY, I
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DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL
WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IT?
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AND SO THAT'S HOW WE
FIRST GOT CONNECTED WITH LAURA
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SOMMERFIELD, AND WE TRAVELED
TO THE EVANSVILLE SEVENTH-DAY
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ADVENTIST IN
EVANSVILLE, INDIANA.
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WE MET THE PASTOR WHO
OPENED HIS CHURCH TO US.
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PASTOR LONNIE
MELASHENKO AND LAURA WERE THERE.
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AND HE BAPTIZED
LAURA SOMMERFIELD.
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IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE EXPERIENCE.
YOU MENTIONED PEOPLE WHO FIND
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JESUS AS A RESULT OF
3ABN. AND LAST WEEKEND I GOT SIX
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LETTERS, VOICEMAILS, EMAILS,
FROM SIX DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO
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FOUND JESUS THROUGH
3ABN. >> PRAISE THE LORD.
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>> AND YOU THINK
SIX IN ONE WEEKEND.
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AND I WAS SO BLESSED, PEOPLE
JUST LIKE LAURA COMING TO KNOW
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JESUS. LAURA WAS FLIPPING THE
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TELEVISION CHANNELS, AND ALL OF
A SUDDEN SHE STUMBLED UPON 3ABN
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PROCLAIM. SHE SAW
A SERMON BY PASTOR
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LONNIE MELASHENKO. AND
SHE BEGAN TO STUDY HER BIBLE
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AND STUDY WITH
PASTOR LONNIE MELASHENKO.
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WE WANT TO GO RIGHT
NOW TO THE TESTIMONY.
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PASTOR CA MURRAY SAT DOWN AND
INTERVIEWED LONNIE MELASHENKO
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AND LAURA SOMMERFIELD. ¤
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>> LAURA, EACH -- EACH BAPTISM
IS -- IS A STORY IN ITSELF, AND
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YOUR STORY IS A
MARVELOUS AND REMARKABLE ONE.
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AND PASTOR LONNIE, YOU ARE SUCH
AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS STORY,
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BUT I WANT TO START WITH YOU,
BECAUSE I AM GLAD TO KNOW AS
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GENERAL MANAGER OF 3ABN
PROCLAIM, THAT YOU ARE A
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PROCLAIM WATCHER.
TELL ME HOW YOU GOT STARTED
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WATCHING 3ABN PROCLAIM.
>> I WAS AT HOME RECUPERATING
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FROM A MAJOR OPERATION, AND ALL
I COULD DO WAS LIE ON THE COUCH
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AND WATCH TV. AND
THERE IS NO GOOD TV ON
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DURING THE DAY. SO I
FOUND THAT CHANNEL, AND
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LIKED IT, AND GOT HOOKED ON
LISTENING TO IT, AND EVERY DAY
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THAT I WAS HOME DURING
THAT RECOVERY, I WATCHED IT.
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>> UH-HUH. NOW
PROCLAIM! IS PRETTY MUCH
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JUST SERMONS AND
TEACHING PROGRAMS.
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THAT APPEALED TO YOU? >>
YES, I WAS STARVED TO HEAR
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THE WORD OF GOD, I THINK.
BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET TIRED OF
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LISTENING TO IT. >> AMEN.
00:15:43.61\00:15:45.84
DO YOU CONSIDER YOURSELF --
OR HAD YOU CONSIDERED YOURSELF A
00:15:45.84\00:15:50.51
RELIGIOUS PERSON? A SEEKER?
00:15:50.51\00:15:52.15
>> I THOUGHT I WAS, BUT I
DON'T THINK NOW THAT I WAS.
00:15:52.15\00:15:55.38
>> NOW YOU WERE INVOLVED IN,
QUOTE, RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES AS
00:15:55.38\00:16:01.36
PART OF YOUR EMPLOYMENT, SO YOU
WERE AROUND THE ACCRUE TRYMENTS
00:16:01.36\00:16:09.73
OF RELIGION, BUT IT
HADN'T GOTTEN INSIDE.
00:16:09.73\00:16:16.04
>> YES. >> YOU,
WATCHING AND ON COMES
00:16:16.04\00:16:20.98
THIS TALL HANDSOME BARITONE
SPEAKER, AND SOMETHING THAT HE
00:16:20.98\00:16:25.11
SAID IMPRESSED
YOU. >> YEAH, OR DIDN'T.
00:16:25.11\00:16:28.92
[ LAUGHTER ] >>
DID IT TROUBLE YOU?
00:16:28.92\00:16:30.45
>> IT WAS A SERMON ON
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DIE, AND
00:16:30.45\00:16:34.02
IT -- HE WAS TELLING IT
ALL DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I WAS
00:16:34.02\00:16:37.63
TAUGHT. >> UH-HUH.
00:16:37.63\00:16:38.46
>> AND IT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE TO
ME, HAVING JUST LOST MY MOTHER A
00:16:38.46\00:16:44.67
YEAR BEFORE, AND SO IT
MAD ME VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.
00:16:44.67\00:16:48.40
>> UH-HUH. UH-HUH.
00:16:48.40\00:16:51.01
UNCOMFORTABLE TO THE
POINT THAT YOU TURNED IT OFF --
00:16:51.01\00:16:53.68
>> I DID NOT
WATCH HIM ANY LONGER.
00:16:53.68\00:17:00.68
>> HUH-UH. BUT
OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING BROUGHT
00:17:00.68\00:17:03.02
YOU BACK. >>
YEAH, I WAS UP AND DOING
00:17:03.02\00:17:05.89
SOMETHING, AND HE CAME ON, AND
I JUST LEFT IT ON, AND I LIKED
00:17:05.89\00:17:09.99
THAT SERMON, AND THEN I
WENT BACK TO LISTENING TO HIM.
00:17:09.99\00:17:13.53
BUT THEN WHEN THAT SERMON CAME
ON AGAIN, AGAIN, I WAS DISTURBED
00:17:13.53\00:17:19.03
BY IT, SO I
EVENTUALLY WROTE HIM.
00:17:19.03\00:17:24.77
>> YOU WROTE HIMWITH THE
INTENT TO STRAIGHTEN HIM OUT?
00:17:24.77\00:17:28.14
WHAT WAS IN YOUR HEART AND MIND?
>> I DON'T THINK I KNEW -- I
00:17:28.14\00:17:31.75
WASN'T GOING TO TRY TO
STRAIGHTEN HIM OUT, NO.
00:17:31.75\00:17:34.68
I KNEW I COULDN'T
DO THAT. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:17:34.68\00:17:36.89
>> I JUST WANTED TO MORE
OR LESS LET IT OUT, I THINK.
00:17:36.89\00:17:40.09
>> UH-HUH. >> OR
HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.
00:17:40.09\00:17:43.02
>> SO YOU WERE VENTING? >> YES.
00:17:43.02\00:17:53.23
>> DO YOU REMEMBER
THAT COMMUNICATION?
00:17:53.23\00:17:55.60
>> I DO. I GET
RESPONSES FROM PEOPLE ALL
00:17:55.60\00:17:58.74
OVER THE WORLD THAT SAY HOW
DID YOU GET THAT QUOTATION OR
00:17:58.74\00:18:02.74
CONCLUSION. AND I
THINK THEY MUST HAVE LET
00:18:02.74\00:18:05.31
LAURA KNOW HOW TO
GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.
00:18:05.31\00:18:07.85
I DO NOT REMEMBER HOW SHE
GOT MY EMAIL, BUT THE ONLY
00:18:07.85\00:18:12.92
COMMUNICATION WE HAD
FOR MONTHS WAS EMAIL.
00:18:12.92\00:18:15.09
AND I REMEMBER HER WRIING AND
SAYING I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
00:18:15.09\00:18:18.09
I THOUGHT I WAS
TALKING WITH MY MOTHER.
00:18:18.09\00:18:20.93
SHE PASSED AWAY. AND
YOU SAY THAT THE DEAD DON'T
00:18:20.93\00:18:24.80
COMMUNICATE WITH
THEIR LOVED ONES.
00:18:24.80\00:18:28.60
WHO AM I TALKING TO?
AND WHAT IS HAPPENING?
00:18:28.60\00:18:31.64
AND I SENSED A
VERY SINCERE INDIVIDUAL.
00:18:31.64\00:18:35.58
AND I JUST ASKED, LORD, HELP ME
TO JUST REACH OUT AND LOVE THIS
00:18:35.58\00:18:41.95
PERSON AND LET ME
KNOW I CARE FOR THEM.
00:18:41.95\00:18:44.79
BUT THE BIBLE HAS DIFFERENT
-PERSPECTIVES. >> YEAH, SO FROM
00:18:44.79\00:18:48.96
THE VERY BEGINNING YOU FELT YOU
WERE DEALING WITH A SEARCHER.
00:18:48.96\00:18:51.79
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >>
THAT YOU DID NOT WANT TO
00:18:51.79\00:18:54.83
WOUND. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:18:54.83\00:18:55.60
YOU HAVE TO BE VERY, VERY
SENSITIVE, ESECIALLY WITH THE
00:18:55.60\00:19:00.20
INITIAL ENGAGEMENT. AND
AS THE CONVERSATIONS WENT
00:19:00.20\00:19:03.04
ON, I SENSED THAT SHE ALSO
REALLY WAS A VERY INSECURE, DID
00:19:03.04\00:19:08.61
NOT HAVE A SENSE OF SALVATION.
AND SO I BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY
00:19:08.61\00:19:13.58
HEART IT WASN'T NECESSARILY
PROCLAIM! IT WASN'T NECESSARILY
00:19:13.58\00:19:19.15
LONNIE. IT WASN'T
EVEN LAURA LIKING WHAT
00:19:19.15\00:19:22.12
SHE WAS HEARING, BUT BEFORE
ALL OF THIS, THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS
00:19:22.12\00:19:28.10
DRAWING. >> AGREED.
00:19:28.10\00:19:29.70
>> AND THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING,
REALLY, THE GLORY GOES TO HIM.
00:19:29.70\00:19:33.17
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
LAURA YOU WERE HAVING
00:19:33.17\00:19:36.67
COMMUNICATIONS WITH
SOME ENTITY IS THAT NOT SO?
00:19:36.67\00:19:38.94
>> YEAH. >> UH-HUH.
00:19:38.94\00:19:40.84
>> WHEN MY MOM DIED, SHE WAS
VISITING SOMEBODY HERSELF FIRST.
00:19:40.84\00:19:48.68
SHE WAS TALKING TO SOMEODY
STRAIGHT AHEAD FROM HER AND NOT
00:19:48.68\00:19:52.82
LOOKING AT ME. I WAS
AT HER SIDE HOLDING HER
00:19:52.82\00:19:56.99
HAND. AND SHE KEPT
YELLING HELP, HELP,
00:19:56.99\00:20:01.46
HELP. AND I KEPT
SAYING WHAT DO YOU
00:20:01.46\00:20:04.70
NEED? AND SHE
WOULD NOT LOOK AT ME.
00:20:04.70\00:20:07.04
SHE JUST KEPT LOOKING STRAIGHT
AHEAD LIKE SOMEBODY WAS THERE.
00:20:07.04\00:20:10.44
SO I THOUGHT SOMEBODY ON THE
OTHER SIDE WAS TRYING TO HELP
00:20:10.44\00:20:13.91
HER COME TO HEAVEN. >> UH-HUH.
00:20:13.91\00:20:17.98
>> AND SO -- LONG STORY SHORT,
SHE DID PASS AWAY THAT EVENING,
00:20:17.98\00:20:26.62
AND THREE DAYS LATER, I WAS
MOVING ANTIQUE LAMP OF HERS TO A
00:20:26.62\00:20:34.03
DIFFERENT SPOT IN THE LIVING
ROOM, AND WHEN I WALKED AWAY,
00:20:34.03\00:20:37.87
THE LIGHT CAME ON IN THE
LAMP, AND I THOUGHT I MUST HAVE
00:20:37.87\00:20:44.24
JINGLED THE BULB. AND
IT WASN'T THE BULB THAT WAS
00:20:44.24\00:20:47.38
LIGHTING UP, IT WAS THE OTHER
ONE THAT WAS NOT TURNED ON.
00:20:47.38\00:20:51.11
THERE ARE TWO BULBS IN THE LAMP,
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS NOT TURNED
00:20:51.11\00:20:56.82
ON, BUT THAT WAS
THE ONE THAT WAS ON.
00:20:56.82\00:20:58.99
SO I THOUGHT SHE WAS LETTING
ME KNOW THAT SHE GOT TO HEAVEN
00:20:58.99\00:21:04.16
OKAY. >> DID
THAT FRIGHTEN YOU OR
00:21:04.16\00:21:06.36
COMFORT YOU? >>
NO, IT COMFORTED ME.
00:21:06.36\00:21:09.20
AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS SAYING
THE OTHER WAY, IT TOOK AWAY MY
00:21:09.20\00:21:14.04
COMFORT. >> UH-HUH.
00:21:14.04\00:21:16.10
UH-HUH. SO YOU
WROTE LONNIE, AND THE
00:21:16.10\00:21:18.74
PASTOR IS VERY COGNIZANT THAT HE
WAS DEALING WITH A TENDER HEART.
00:21:18.74\00:21:22.81
SO HE WRITES BACK. HOW
DID YOU RECEIVE HIS RETURN
00:21:22.81\00:21:27.02
COMMUNICATION? >> I
WAS EXPECTING HIM TO TELL
00:21:27.02\00:21:29.72
ME THIS IS HOW IT
IS. BUT HE DIDN'T.
00:21:29.72\00:21:31.99
HE WAS VERY NICE. I
WASN'T READY FOR VERY NICE,
00:21:31.99\00:21:35.82
AND I WAS KIND OF
SHOCKED. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:21:35.82\00:21:37.96
>> AND -- I MEAN I WAS
IN THE RING READY TO FIGHT.
00:21:37.96\00:21:41.36
>> HUM. >> BUT HE
WASN'T IN THE RING,
00:21:41.36\00:21:44.23
AND HE WASN'T FIGHTING, SO I
DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO TAKE FROM
00:21:44.23\00:21:49.70
THAT. >> YEAH.
00:21:49.70\00:21:50.94
DID THAT DISARM
YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT?
00:21:50.94\00:21:52.97
>> YEAH. YEAH.
00:21:52.97\00:21:55.18
>> YEAH. YEAH.
00:21:55.18\00:21:56.48
>> SO YOU ARE BACK WATCHING,
AND SOME THINGS YOU LIKE, SOME
00:21:56.48\00:21:59.45
THINGS ARE DISTURBING, BUT
YOU WERE NEVER IMPRESSED TO JUST
00:21:59.45\00:22:04.05
TURN HIMOFF? >> NOT ANYMORE.
00:22:04.05\00:22:06.02
ONCE I WROTE HIM, AND THE
WAY I GOT HIS EMAIL WAS I GOT
00:22:06.02\00:22:10.79
ON -- WHEN I FINALLY FIGURED OUT
HOW TO SPELL HIS NAME, BECAUSE I
00:22:10.79\00:22:15.83
NEVER HAD PAPER AND PEN BY
ME WHEN I SAW IT, AND IT TOOK ME
00:22:15.83\00:22:19.73
LIKE FOUR WEEKS BEFORE I COULD
WRITE IT DOWN SO I COULD LOOK IT
00:22:19.73\00:22:23.07
UP ON THE INTERNET, SO I GOT
ON HIS WEBSITE, AND THERE WAS NO
00:22:23.07\00:22:27.31
PLACE THERE FOR LISTENERS TO SAY
ANYTHING, COMMENT, OR ANYTHING,
00:22:27.31\00:22:33.42
AND SO -- BUT THERE WAS A
LITTLE -- IT WAS SET UP FOR
00:22:33.42\00:22:37.39
CHURCHES TO ASK, WILL YOU COME
PREACH AT OUR CHURCH, BUT THERE
00:22:37.39\00:22:41.62
WAS A LITTLE SQUARE THAT
SAID OTHER, AND I SAID OKAY, I'M
00:22:41.62\00:22:46.33
OTHER. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:22:46.33\00:22:47.03
>> SO I CHECKED OTHER, AND SAID
IS THERE AN EMAIL THAT I CAN
00:22:47.03\00:22:50.90
WRITE TO PASTOR LONNIE? AND
I IMMEDIATELY GOT A RESPONSE
00:22:50.90\00:22:55.27
ON MY EMAIL THAT THEY RECEIVED
MY REQUEST, AND IT WAS THE NEXT
00:22:55.27\00:22:58.94
DAY I GOT AN EMAIL
FROM HIM. >> GREAT.
00:22:58.94\00:23:02.14
GREAT. LET ME PUT
YOU ON A SPOT JUST A
00:23:02.14\00:23:05.01
MOMENT. BECAUSE YOU ARE ON 3ABN.
00:23:05.01\00:23:06.58
YOU HAVE BEEN ON OUR
CHANNEL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
00:23:06.58\00:23:09.82
HOPE CHANNEL, I SUSPECT.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF MATERIAL
00:23:09.82\00:23:14.82
COMING TO YOU. DO YOU
ANSWER THEM ALL YOURSELF?
00:23:14.82\00:23:18.76
>> SOMETIMES I HAVE TO
BE A LITTLE BIT SELECTIVE.
00:23:18.76\00:23:22.56
SOME EMAILS ARE A
LITTLE BIT OFF OF THE WELL.
00:23:22.56\00:23:25.20
AND I FEEL A LITTLE BIT OF A
SCREEN THERE WITH THE WEBSITE.
00:23:25.20\00:23:27.97
THE PERSON WHO RUNS MY WEBSITE
IS NOT A SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST,
00:23:27.97\00:23:33.04
AND HE KNOWS HE CAN BE A LITTLE
BUFFER, BUT HE GENERALLY SENDS
00:23:33.04\00:23:37.61
ME ALL QUERIES, AND I
DON'T RESPOND TO EVERYBODY.
00:23:37.61\00:23:43.42
SOME ARE
REQUESTS. MIDDLE OF AFRICA.
00:23:43.42\00:23:45.72
I WATCH YOU ALL
THE TIME. I NEED MONEY.
00:23:45.72\00:23:49.06
WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND
ME ENOUGH TO GO TO COLLEGE.
00:23:49.06\00:23:52.06
YOU KNOW. SO YOU
HAVE TO BE A LITTLE BIT
00:23:52.06\00:23:54.86
CAREFUL. >> YEAH.
00:23:54.86\00:23:55.53
>> BUT I JUST SENSED THIS
ONE -- THERE IS A HUNGER HERE,
00:23:55.53\00:24:01.17
SOMEBODY IS REALLY SEARCHING,
AND WAS DISTURBED BY WHAT I
00:24:01.17\00:24:06.81
SAID. SO THAT'S
HOW THAT GOT STARTED.
00:24:06.81\00:24:09.28
>> OKAY. SO YOU
GOT YOUR RESPONSE BACK.
00:24:09.28\00:24:12.61
IT DISARMS YOU.
THIS IS A NICE GUY.
00:24:12.61\00:24:15.22
WHAT WAS THE NEXT
TIME THAT YOU WROTE HIM?
00:24:15.22\00:24:18.65
>> ACTUALLY I DID
NOT GET MY RESPONSE BACK.
00:24:18.65\00:24:22.92
HE DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION.
INSTEAD HE ASKED ME A QUESTION.
00:24:22.92\00:24:29.70
DO I HAVE A VHS PLAYER?
COULD HE SEND ME HIS SERMON ON
00:24:29.70\00:24:37.41
TAPE. AND I ATE UP THAT THOUGHT,
00:24:37.41\00:24:40.41
BECAUSE LIKE I SAID,
I WAS STARVING FOR GOD.
00:24:40.41\00:24:44.75
AND HIS NICENESS ALONG WITH
SENDING THOSE WAS WORKING ON ME.
00:24:44.75\00:24:48.42
[ LAUGHTER ] >> I LOVE IT.
00:24:48.42\00:24:50.89
SO YOU DIDN'T TAKE HER ON
DIRECTLY, YOU JUST WANTED TO
00:24:50.89\00:24:54.72
SEND HER MORE MATERIAL. >>
I THOUGHT THIS PERSON SOUNDS
00:24:54.72\00:24:57.63
LIKE SHE IS REALLY INTERESTED
IN DEEPER STUDY, AND I COULD
00:24:57.63\00:25:01.96
ENTRUST HER WITH SOMETHING
THAT IS NOT AVAILABLE ANYMORE IN
00:25:01.96\00:25:06.23
BOOKSTORES. I
HAVE TWO COPIES LEFT.
00:25:06.23\00:25:08.44
I THINK YOU GUYS
HAVE THE OTHER ONE.
00:25:08.44\00:25:10.67
AND I SAID I'LL
ENTRUST YOU WITH THESE.
00:25:10.67\00:25:13.78
SHE SAID I'LL TAKE THEM DOWN
TO THE BANK AND PUT THEM BEHIND
00:25:13.78\00:25:17.48
LOCKED DOORS, WHATEVER IT
TAKES. BUT SHE WAS OVERWHELMED.
00:25:17.48\00:25:22.35
AND I RECOGNIZED THAT SHE REALLY
SINCERELY WOULD STUDY THOSE.
00:25:22.35\00:25:27.56
AND SHE DID. SHE
WOULD WATCH THEM TWO OR
00:25:27.56\00:25:31.23
THREE OR FOUR OR
FIVE TIMES AND TAKE NOTES.
00:25:31.23\00:25:33.96
STOP IT GO BACK.
WHAT DID I JUST SAY.
00:25:33.96\00:25:37.43
SOMETIMES SHE WOULD BE REALLY
DISTURBED OVER THOSE MESSAGES
00:25:37.43\00:25:40.24
FOR A LONG TIME. SHE
COULD NOT ABSORB THE ONE ON
00:25:40.24\00:25:47.38
MARY MAGDALEN. >> I
COULD IDENTIFY WITH HER,
00:25:47.38\00:25:51.15
AND I JUST FELT
LIKE I WAS THERE.
00:25:51.15\00:25:52.91
I RELATED TO THAT WHOLE STORY,
AND I WAS JUST SO TAKEN THAT
00:25:52.91\00:25:59.82
JESUS LOVED HER AND WAS A
GOOD FRIEND TO HER, AND THAT SHE
00:25:59.82\00:26:08.10
WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, WASH HIS
FEET, AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT
00:26:08.10\00:26:10.90
I WOULD WANT TO DO IF HE
CAME AND TREATED ME THAT WAY.
00:26:10.90\00:26:14.17
AND I JUST -- I WAS
REALLY TAKEN BY THAT.
00:26:14.17\00:26:17.47
>> UH-HUH. UH-HUH.
00:26:17.47\00:26:19.37
NOW WE HAVE GOT TO SORT OF MAKE
A SITE CHANGE HERE, BECAUSE YOU
00:26:19.37\00:26:25.35
ARE BEING LEAD INTO A BRAN NEW
ARENA, THAT IS CHALLENGING SOME
00:26:25.35\00:26:31.49
LIFELONG IDEAS ON HAPPINESS.
AND THIS IS BRINGING JOY TO YOU.
00:26:31.49\00:26:36.06
YOU ARE COMMUNICATING BACK
AND FORTH WITH PASTOR LONNIE.
00:26:36.06\00:26:40.66
TALK ABOUT THE
RESPONSE FROM YOUR FAMILY AND
00:26:40.66\00:26:43.70
COWORKERS -- BECAUSE IT'S HARD
TO GET INTO THIS KIND OF THING
00:26:43.70\00:26:47.67
AND NOT SHARE IT. YOUR
LIFE CHANGES, AND IT BEGINS
00:26:47.67\00:26:51.27
TO LEAK OUT THAT SOMETHING
IS HAPPENING IN YOUR LIFE.
00:26:51.27\00:26:53.81
SO AS THIS IS HAPPENING TO YOU,
HOW IS YOUR WORLD AROUND YOU
00:26:53.81\00:26:58.31
RESPONDING TO THAT? >>
AT LEAST THEY RESPONDED
00:26:58.31\00:27:02.15
GREAT. THEY WERE
ALL SUPPORTIVE AND
00:27:02.15\00:27:04.75
GLAD FOR ME, UNTIL THEY
LEARNED THAT IT WAS ADVENTIST.
00:27:04.75\00:27:08.69
AND THEN THEY TURNED. >> UH-HUH.
00:27:08.69\00:27:12.13
UH-HUH. HOW SOON
AFTER YOUR INITIAL
00:27:12.13\00:27:13.73
CONTACT WITH LONNIE DID YOU
FINE OUT THAT IT WAS ADVENTIST?
00:27:13.73\00:27:19.27
>> IT PROBABLY WAS
A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
00:27:19.27\00:27:22.44
>> BUT YOU DIDN'T
JUMP ON THAT RIGHT AWAY?
00:27:22.44\00:27:25.51
YOU LET THAT COME OUT
LATER. >> I HAVE -- I'M LEARNING
00:27:25.51\00:27:30.61
VOCABULARY AND SCRIPTURES AND
STUFF THAT I AM USING AT WORK,
00:27:30.61\00:27:34.68
AND THEY DON'T KNOW
WHERE I GOT IT FROM.
00:27:34.68\00:27:36.85
>> HUM. >> AND
THEN I HAVE FRIENDS THAT
00:27:36.85\00:27:41.42
KIND OF TOLD ME WHEN THEY
FOUND OUT THAT I WAS GOING TO BE
00:27:41.42\00:27:45.89
BAPTIZED THAT THE RELATIONSHIP
WAS OVER, AND WOULDN'T WORK,
BU-pTHEY SENSE THEN HAVE
00:27:45.89\00:27:55.60
RETHOUGHT IT, AND ARE MY FRIEND
AGAIN, BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE
00:27:55.60\00:28:00.34
SUBJECT OF THIS
BROUGHT UP. >> UH-HUH.
00:28:00.34\00:28:03.31
UH-HUH. >> SHE WORKS IN A PLACE
00:28:03.31\00:28:05.18
WHERE -- FOR THE SUNDAY
MASS, SHE HAS TAKEN SOME OF THE
00:28:05.18\00:28:08.72
QUOTATIONS I HAVE SHARED
WITH HER, AND MADE THEM THE
00:28:08.72\00:28:12.22
CENTERPIECE OF THE
BULLETIN AND THE PEOPLE LOVE IT.
00:28:12.22\00:28:14.76
[ LAUGHTER ] >> WHERE
DID YOU GET THIS LAURA?
00:28:14.76\00:28:16.93
AND YOU PUT IT ON YOUR WEBSITE
AND SHE WONDERED IF SHE WAS
00:28:16.93\00:28:23.00
BUGGING ME TOO MUCH. AND
I SAID, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY,
00:28:23.00\00:28:25.87
YOU ARE. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:28:25.87\00:28:27.17
>> BUT I HAVE
LEARNED SOMETHING, LAURA.
00:28:27.17\00:28:32.11
JESUS SAYS -- HOW DID YOU
PUT IT DOWN ON YOUR WEBSITE?
00:28:32.11\00:28:36.04
THAT INTERRUPTIONS ARE GOD'S
MOST BEAUTIFUL OPPORTUNITIES.
00:28:36.04\00:28:40.48
>> AMEN. AMEN.
00:28:40.48\00:28:42.42
>> AND THAT REALLY
SPOKE VOLUMES TO LAURA.
00:28:42.42\00:28:44.45
>> YES. >> IT DID.
00:28:44.45\00:28:46.32
>> AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN
CALL ME ANY TIME YOU WANT, AND
00:28:46.32\00:28:50.89
I'M SERIOUS. I
WANT TO USE THAT AS AN
00:28:50.89\00:28:55.70
OPPORTUNITY TO
BLESS -- AS JESUS DID.
00:28:55.70\00:28:57.40
AND IT CAME OUT IN THE SABBATH
SCHOOL QUARTERLY ABOUT SIX,
00:28:57.40\00:29:02.00
EIGHT MONTHS AGO, ABOUT JESUS'S
GREATEST OPPORTUNITIES ARE WHEN
00:29:02.00\00:29:06.04
HE WAS INTERRUPTED. >> UH-HUH.
00:29:06.04\00:29:08.51
YES. YES.
00:29:08.51\00:29:09.61
YES. >> AND I
LEARNED SOMETHING JUST
00:29:09.61\00:29:11.28
READING THAT LESSON, SO I SHARED
THAT WITH HER, AND SHE PUT IT IN
00:29:11.28\00:29:15.32
HER WEBSITE AND SHARED SOME
THINGS IN THE BULLETIN AND THE
00:29:15.32\00:29:18.79
MASS. SHE WORKS
SOMETHING LIKE -- FOR
00:29:18.79\00:29:23.32
A BISHOP, SORT OF. AND
HER PRIEST IS HER BOSS.
00:29:23.32\00:29:27.36
[ LAUGHTER ] >>
SO SHE STARTED ASKING
00:29:27.36\00:29:30.00
QUESTIONS ABOUT
WHAT ABOUT THE SABBATH?
00:29:30.00\00:29:32.90
THEY WERE NOT AMUSED WERE THEY?
>> THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT
00:29:32.90\00:29:38.17
QUESTION. WE CAN
SAY YOU WORK FOR A
00:29:38.17\00:29:40.94
RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION,
AND THE PRIEST IS YOUR BOSS.
00:29:40.94\00:29:43.68
IT IS NATURAL FOR YOU TO TAKE
THIS NEW-FOUND INFORMATION AND
00:29:43.68\00:29:48.02
RUN IT BY SOMEONE YOU
HAVE KNOWN FOR A WHILE.
00:29:48.02\00:29:50.65
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
OF COURSE, HE WAS HAPPY
00:29:50.65\00:29:52.92
TO HEAR YOUR
QUESTIONS, WAS HE -NOT? >> NO.
00:29:52.92\00:29:56.79
NO. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:29:56.79\00:29:57.59
>> I QUIZZED HIM ON IT, AND
HE SAID THAT WE CELEBRATE THE
00:29:57.59\00:30:06.53
RESURRECTION, NOT THE DAY OF
REST, AND THAT WAS WHAT -- AND I
00:30:06.53\00:30:11.57
SAID, BUT WE'RE NOT KEEPING THE
COMMANDMENT, AND HE SAID, YEAH,
00:30:11.57\00:30:15.61
WE ARE. HE JUST
KIND OF DISMISSED IT.
00:30:15.61\00:30:19.65
AND I DIDN'T GO ANY FURTHER WITH
HIM AT THAT TIME, AND I STILL
00:30:19.65\00:30:25.72
HAVEN'T, BUT I'M
NOT DONE WITH HIM.
00:30:25.72\00:30:27.56
[ LAUGHTER ] >> SO
YOU STILL HAVE A JOB?
00:30:27.56\00:30:29.06
>> YES. >> WE
PRAISE THE LORD FOR THAT.
00:30:29.06\00:30:33.56
AND LAB THE LORD WANTS YOU TO
STAY THERE JUST TO BE A LIGHT IN
00:30:33.56\00:30:37.53
THAT INSTITUTION. I
HAVE A VERY GOOD FRIEND WHO
00:30:37.53\00:30:41.10
WAS IN THE ORTHODOX CHURCH.
AND HE TOOK SABBATH TO HIS
00:30:41.10\00:30:45.87
PRIEST, AND HIS PRIEST SAID I'LL
GET BACK TO YOU ON MONDAY, AND
00:30:45.87\00:30:49.48
THAT WAS 19
YEARS AGO. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:30:49.48\00:30:51.88
>> WOW. >> SO IT'S
A DIFFICULT THING FOR
00:30:51.88\00:30:54.65
SOME PEOPLE TO SWALLOW TO
REALIZE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS
00:30:54.65\00:30:58.52
BASED ON TRADITION. >>
SHE WAS VERY TENACIOUS AND
00:30:58.52\00:31:04.96
COURAGEOUS, EVEN
THOUGH SHE IS A SHY PERSON.
00:31:04.96\00:31:09.93
AND IT MUST HAVE TWEAKED HIM
ONE DAY, AND HE IS SLAPPED HER.
00:31:09.93\00:31:15.77
AND PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED.
AND I SAID LAURA JUST CONTINUE
00:31:15.77\00:31:19.47
TO KEEP ON KEEPING ON, AND
GREATER IS HE THAN IS IN YOU
00:31:19.47\00:31:23.61
THAN HE IS IN THE WORLD, AND
JESUS IS MOST INTERESTED IN YOUR
00:31:23.61\00:31:29.02
BEING A PERSON OF
FIDELITY AND INTEGRITY.
00:31:29.02\00:31:35.12
I HAVE KNOWN SOME FOLKS WHO WERE
BAB -- BAPTIZED AND THEY WORKED
00:31:35.12\00:31:44.40
FOR A PRIEST FOR
MOST OF THEIR LIVES.
00:31:44.40\00:31:47.27
I THINK SHE IS SUCH AN
INCREDIBLE STUDENT OF GOD'S
00:31:47.27\00:31:51.47
WORD -- I MEAN HER BIBLE
INSTRUCTOR HERE, WHAT WAS HE
00:31:51.47\00:31:56.58
REACTION WHEN SHE SAW
YOUR VOLUMINOUS NOTES?
00:31:56.58\00:32:01.45
>> SO HIS WIFE
WAS YOUR INSTRUCTOR?
00:32:01.45\00:32:03.72
>> YE. LATER.
00:32:03.72\00:32:05.02
>> ALL RIGHTY. >> WHEN
YOU FIRST SHOWED HER --
00:32:05.02\00:32:07.62
>> SHE WAS
IMPRESSED. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:32:07.62\00:32:10.13
>> IT IS AN IMPRESSIVE STACK.
IT'S ALL TYPED AND LOTS OF
00:32:10.13\00:32:14.36
PAGES. >> WELL, WE KNOW WHO YOUR
00:32:14.36\00:32:18.27
ORIGINAL INSTRUCTOR WAS,
JESUS, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR LONNIE
00:32:18.27\00:32:21.70
MELASHENKO. >> RIGHT.
00:32:21.70\00:32:22.57
>> AT THE MOMENT YOU
ARE QUESTIONING -- AND YOUR
00:32:22.57\00:32:26.01
QUESTIONS ARE SINCERE.
YOU ARE TRYING TO GET LIGHT.
00:32:26.01\00:32:29.41
AT THE MOMENT HIS HAND MAKES
CONTACT WITH YOUR FACE WHAT IS
00:32:29.41\00:32:33.88
GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND AS
FAR AS YOUR WALK WITH CHRIST?
00:32:33.88\00:32:36.55
>> WELL, I HAD FLASHBACKS WHEN
I WAS YOUNG, BUT -- I WAS PRETTY
00:32:36.55\00:32:45.03
MUCH TOO SURPRISED -- I DON'T
KNOW WHAT WENT THROUGH MY MIND.
00:32:45.03\00:32:49.10
>> UH-HUH. >> LATER I THOUGHT.
00:32:49.10\00:32:52.03
HE DID THAT. AND
HE DID IT IN FRONT OF
00:32:52.03\00:32:54.24
PEOPLE. IF I
REALLY WANTED TO, I COULD
00:32:54.24\00:32:57.01
REALLY GET HIM IN
TROUBLE. >> UH-HUH.
00:32:57.01\00:32:59.27
>> BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO.
BECAUSE THAT'S BECAUSE HIM.
00:32:59.27\00:33:03.28
>> A VOLATILE PERSONALITY?
>> YES, HE HAS A TEMPER.
00:33:03.28\00:33:06.82
>> SO YOU KNEW YOU WERE DEALING
WITH A PERSON THAT HAD A TEMPER.
00:33:06.82\00:33:10.22
>> YEAH. YEAH.
00:33:10.22\00:33:11.99
>> AND YET THE LORD GAVE
YOU THE PRESENCE OF MIND TO NOT
00:33:11.99\00:33:16.59
RETALIATE AND JUST STAY WITH
IT. DO YOU QUESTION HIM STILL?
00:33:16.59\00:33:19.23
>> YES. >> SO YOU
ARE NOT BACKING DOWN?
00:33:19.23\00:33:22.03
>> NO. >> BLESS YOUR HEART.
00:33:22.03\00:33:23.93
BLESS YOUR HEART. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:33:23.93\00:33:25.80
>> I REALLY THINK WITH GOD'S
GRACE AND HER BIBLE INSTRUCTOR
00:33:25.80\00:33:34.11
CORELINE, IF SHE HAD TO LOSE
HER JOB, I WOULD HOPE SHE COULD
00:33:34.11\00:33:39.78
BECOME A BIBLE
WORKER. HE WOULD BE THE BEST.
00:33:39.78\00:33:42.72
SHE HAS EMPATHY FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE BEATEN DOWN.
00:33:42.72\00:33:50.76
LITERALLY STRUCK MORE
THAN ONCE. SHE HAS PLED JESUS.
00:33:50.76\00:33:55.36
HE HAS BEEN THERE EVERY STEP.
AND SHE COULD EMPATHIZE WITH
00:33:55.36\00:33:59.27
THAT. BUT
WHATEVER -- IF YOU NEED TO
00:33:59.27\00:34:01.24
BE A MISSIONARY THERE IN THAT
PARISH OFFICE, THAT'S WHERE YOU
00:34:01.24\00:34:05.07
SHOULD BE. >> AND
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
00:34:05.07\00:34:07.34
LORD HAS IN
STORE. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:34:07.34\00:34:09.04
>> YOU ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT
OF A LATE START, BUT IT IS NEVER
00:34:09.04\00:34:13.52
TOO LATE, AND THE LORD CAN MAKE
UP FOR LOST TIME, I GUARANTEE
00:34:13.52\00:34:18.09
YOU. SO TODAY IS YOUR NEW BIRTH.
00:34:18.09\00:34:21.92
FROM THEN WE BEGIN
MARKING TIME FROM TODAY FORWARD.
00:34:21.92\00:34:25.09
>> I WANT TO GO BACK TO ONE
OTHER IMPORTANT CHAPTER AFTER
00:34:25.09\00:34:29.06
THAT TIME WHEN I FIRST
TALKED TO HER ON THE PHONE.
00:34:29.06\00:34:32.53
I DON'T KNOW WHO I TALKED TO
OR WHAT I TALKED TO, BECAUSE SHE
00:34:32.53\00:34:36.10
DIDN'T TALK BACK. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:34:36.10\00:34:37.54
>> SHE WAS LITERALLY -- I SENT
HER A NICE ENCOURAGING NOTE.
00:34:37.54\00:34:41.58
I SAID I APPRECIATE THE
CHANCE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
00:34:41.58\00:34:44.55
I KNOW YOU MUST HAVE BEEN BLOWN
AWAY THAT I ACTUALLY WOULD TALK
00:34:44.55\00:34:48.98
TO YOU. I SENSE
SHE DID NOT KNOW THE
00:34:48.98\00:34:53.19
ASSURANCE OF SALVATION. SHE
NEVER INVITED JESUS INTO HER
00:34:53.19\00:34:57.46
HEART.-AND ACCEPTED
RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH.
00:34:57.46\00:35:03.63
I SAID ON MY WAY BACK FROM
CLEVELAND, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ME
00:35:03.63\00:35:07.80
A CALL, AND WE'LL TALK.
BUT I SAID -- I HAD GOTTEN HOME
00:35:07.80\00:35:16.88
AND I CALLED HER, AND WE
TALKED -- OR SHE CALLED ME.
00:35:16.88\00:35:20.58
I SAID I'M HERE AT MY DESK.
I'M GOING TO KNEEL DOWN WHERE I
00:35:20.58\00:35:26.19
AM. I WANT YOU TO KNEEL DOWN.
00:35:26.19\00:35:28.86
>> TELL US WHAT
HAPPENED? >> I WAS AT WORK.
00:35:28.86\00:35:31.53
I HAD GONE IN EARLY, AND LOCKED
MYSELF IN THE OFFICE SO NOBODY
00:35:31.53\00:35:35.06
COULD WALK IN, AND I WAS
ACTUALLY IN THE PRIEST'S OFFICE.
00:35:35.06\00:35:40.37
[ LAUGHTER ] >> I LOVE IT.
00:35:40.37\00:35:41.44
THIS IS A STORY. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:35:41.44\00:35:45.71
>> AND HE HAD -- WELL, I
CONFESSED MY SINS TO HIM,
00:35:45.71\00:35:50.45
AND -- AND HE HAD ME KNEEL AND
HE KNELT ON THE OTHER END, AND
00:35:50.45\00:35:55.55
WE SAID THE SINNER'S PRAYER, AND
I IMMEDIATELY FELT FORGIVENESS.
00:35:55.55\00:36:00.92
>> AMEN. >> IMMEDIATELY.
00:36:00.92\00:36:03.12
AND I ACCEPTED JESUS IN MY HEART
THAT DAY, AND WE CELEBRATED ALL
00:36:03.12\00:36:08.50
DAY BACK AND FORTH
WITH EMAILS, AND --
00:36:08.50\00:36:11.77
>> SHE WAS RIDING
HIGH AS A KITE FOR WEEKS.
00:36:11.77\00:36:14.90
>> OH, YEAH. >> I
WAS RIDING VERY HIGH, AND
00:36:14.90\00:36:18.24
HE CAN -- HE WAS -- I CAN'T EVEN
TELL YOU WHAT HE SAID, BECAUSE
00:36:18.24\00:36:22.31
HIS EMAILS HE PAINTS BEAUTIFUL
PICTURES WITH HIS EMAILS, AND HE
00:36:22.31\00:36:28.48
HAD ME GOING TO HEAEN, IT
WAS JUST VERY PICTORIAL, I MEAN
00:36:28.48\00:36:36.49
PICTURESQUE. WHATEVER.
00:36:36.49\00:36:37.76
>> AND YOR LIFE HAS
NOT BEEN THE SAME SINCE.
00:36:37.76\00:36:40.40
>> NO. >> IT HAS
JUST BEEN ONE HIGH.
00:36:40.40\00:36:45.03
>> SO HE WAS ABLE TO BLOW AWAY
SOME OF THE FOG, PARTICULARLY
00:36:45.03\00:36:49.90
ASSURANCE OF SALVATION IS
A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THING.
00:36:49.90\00:36:52.87
THAT IS SOMETHING TO GET
VERY, VERY EXCITED ABOUT.
00:36:52.87\00:36:56.01
>> YES. WHEN I
STARTED LISTENING TO THE
00:36:56.01\00:36:59.08
SERMONS, IT WAS LIKE THE
THIRD OR FOURTH SERMON, IT JUST
00:36:59.08\00:37:03.02
STARTED HITTING ME -- THE
QUESTION ABOUT WHT HAPPENS WHEN
00:37:03.02\00:37:05.59
YOU DIE WENT TO THE
BACK BURNER. >> UH-HUH.
00:37:05.59\00:37:10.06
>> MY SINFUL LIFE CAME TO THE
FRONT AND CENTER AND TOOK OVER.
00:37:10.06\00:37:14.60
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
THAT AND THE SABBATH DAY
00:37:14.60\00:37:19.37
BEING SATURDAY, BUT I JUST
COULDN'T -- I -- THAT'S WHEN I
00:37:19.37\00:37:25.67
REALIZED HOW SERIOUS IT WAS THAT
I GET JESUS IN MY HEART AND GET
00:37:25.67\00:37:32.68
FORGIVEN. >> UH-HUH.
00:37:32.68\00:37:34.05
>> AND -- BECAUSE THOSE SERMONS
JUST REALLY SPELL IT OUT.
00:37:34.05\00:37:37.89
AND I DIDN'T THINK JESUS WOULD
HAVE ANTHING TO SAY FOR ME AS
00:37:37.89\00:37:41.26
MY ADVOCATE. I MEAN
I HADN'T DONE ANYTHING
00:37:41.26\00:37:46.46
SPIRITUAL OR FOR OTHER
PEOPLE. I LIVED MY LIFE FOR ME.
00:37:46.46\00:37:49.53
>> UH-HUH. >> TO FILL MY NEEDS.
00:37:49.53\00:37:54.17
AND THAT JUST -- THOSE
SERMONS JUST TURNED ME AROUND.
00:37:54.17\00:37:58.21
AND THAT SERMON -- WHAT HAPPENS
WHEN YOU DIE ISN'T EVEN UNTIL
00:37:58.21\00:38:01.88
WAY TOWARDS THE END. >> UH-HUH.
00:38:01.88\00:38:04.35
>> AND WHEN I -- BY
THE TIME I GOT TO IT, I HAD
00:38:04.35\00:38:09.02
ALREADY -- YEAH,
THEY -- THEY ARE DEAD.
00:38:09.02\00:38:12.42
>> YOU HAD SO MUCH STUFF
THAT YOU COULD ROLL WITH IT NOW.
00:38:12.42\00:38:15.52
>> YEAH, THEY ARE
ASLEEP. AND MOM CAN'T HEAR ME.
00:38:15.52\00:38:18.73
SHE IS NOT PRAYING FOR
ME, LIKE I THOUGHT SHE WAS.
00:38:18.73\00:38:22.03
>> YEAH. >> AND
THAT KIND OF THING JUST
00:38:22.03\00:38:24.63
IRONED OUT, WHICH IS WHY I GUESS
HE WANTED ME TO LISTEN TO THE
00:38:24.63\00:38:28.57
TAPES INSTEAD OF ANSWERING
MY QUESTION TO BEGIN WITH.
00:38:28.57\00:38:32.24
>> I TOLD HE IT'S LIKE CLIMBING
TO THE BALCONY, YOU HAVE GO A
00:38:32.24\00:38:37.28
STEP AT A TIME. AND IT
WILL HELP -- MUCH EASIER
00:38:37.28\00:38:40.32
TO ABSORB SOME
OF THOSE CONCEPTS.
00:38:40.32\00:38:44.42
GOING BACK, THOUGH, TO THAT
SINNER'S PRAYER, SHE HAD STALLED
00:38:44.42\00:38:48.39
ON THE SINNER SERIES THAT WENT
ON PROCLAIM! ON HOW TO BECOME A
00:38:48.39\00:38:53.16
CHRISTIAN. AND
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF
00:38:53.16\00:38:55.53
ILLUSTRATIONS THEY
USED SHE COULD NOT ABSORB.
00:38:55.53\00:38:57.83
YOU MIGHT BELIEVE, BUT
THE DEVIL BELIEVES TOO.
00:38:57.83\00:39:01.34
YOU HAVE TO PUT YOUR WHOLE
TRUST, YOUR WHOLE WEIGHT ON
00:39:01.34\00:39:04.61
JESUS. AND I
BRING OUT A CHAIR TO THE
00:39:04.61\00:39:07.51
PLATFORM, AND I PARTLY SIT DOWN
AND SAY AM I REALLY PUTTING MY
00:39:07.51\00:39:13.38
TOTAL WEIGHT -- NO. NOW
I REALLY TOTALLY BELIEVE.
00:39:13.38\00:39:17.12
AND THAT WAS ONE THING
THAT YOU COULD NOT QUITE ABSORB.
00:39:17.12\00:39:21.99
WHAT FINALLY BROUGHT
AROUND AN ADJUSTMENT IN THAT?
00:39:21.99\00:39:27.66
IT WAS WHEN YOU KNELT DOWN AND
YOU ASKED HIM INTO YOUR HEART.
00:39:27.66\00:39:30.63
>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> AND
YOU FELT LIKE -- SHE JUST
00:39:30.63\00:39:35.54
FELT LIKE A PEACE,
JUST RUSHED OVER HER.
00:39:35.54\00:39:39.24
>> THAT'S TRUE. IT WAS
SO HIGH FOR TWO OR THREE
00:39:39.24\00:39:44.88
DAYS, JUST SO HAPPY,
JUST ABSORBING IT ALL, AND --
00:39:44.88\00:39:49.12
>> YEAH. WHAT --
WHAT OCCURS TO ME AND
00:39:49.12\00:39:51.72
WHAT I SEE IN THIS -- IN THE
OVERALL PICTURE, WHAT ARRESTED
00:39:51.72\00:39:56.86
YOU WAS STATE OF THE DEAD,
BECAUSE OF YOUR CONNECTION WITH
00:39:56.86\00:40:00.90
YOUR MOTHER. THEN THE
LORD TOLD YOU, WE HAVE
00:40:00.90\00:40:04.73
A LOT OF STUFF TO DEAL WITH,
LONG BEFORE WE DO THE STATE OF
00:40:04.73\00:40:08.37
THE DEAD, WE HAVE TO DO
THE STATE OF THE LIVING.
00:40:08.37\00:40:11.57
>> EXACTLY. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:40:11.57\00:40:12.81
>> AND ONCE YOU CLEANED UP STATE
OF THE LIVING, STATE OF THE DEAD
00:40:12.81\00:40:17.25
WASN'T THAT BIG OF THING TO
SWALLOW BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT
00:40:17.25\00:40:20.98
OF STUFF YOU GOT OUT
OF THE WAY. >> RIGHT.
00:40:20.98\00:40:23.45
AND WHAT IS INTERESTING NOW,
WHEN I GO TO THE CHURCH WHERE I
00:40:23.45\00:40:27.26
WORK AT, WHEN THE PRIEST TALKS
ABOUT THAT, AND TELLS EVERYBODY
00:40:27.26\00:40:31.93
YOUR LOVED ONES ARE PRAYING FOR
YOU, I JUST CAN'T HARDLY STAND
00:40:31.93\00:40:36.50
TO HEAR IT ANYMORE. I
JUST -- MY SKIN WANTS TO
00:40:36.50\00:40:40.67
CRAWL, I MEAN I'M LIKE -- OH,
AND I HAVE TO LET MY MIND DRIFT
00:40:40.67\00:40:45.47
ON TO OTHER THINGS. [ LAUGHTER ]
00:40:45.47\00:40:46.94
>> UH-HUH. IT'S A
WONDERFUL STORY, AND I
00:40:46.94\00:40:49.94
KNOW THAT WE HAVE JUST
REALLY SKIMMED THE SURFACE.
00:40:49.94\00:40:53.18
WE HAVEN'T GONE DOWN INTO SOME
OF THE BEDROCK MATERIAL, BUT THE
00:40:53.18\00:40:56.45
TRUTH IS, AND THE FACT IS, AND
WHAT IS MARVELOUS, IS ANOTHER
00:40:56.45\00:41:01.19
SOUL HAS BEEN
ADDED TO THE KINGDOM.
00:41:01.19\00:41:04.86
LONNIE PUT A
SUMMARY KIND OF THING.
00:41:04.86\00:41:07.40
YESTERDAY WAS THE FIRST TIME
YOU LAID EYES ON EACH OTHER.
00:41:07.40\00:41:11.13
AND THE SECOND TIME YOU SAW HER,
YOU PUT HER UNDER THE WATER.
00:41:11.13\00:41:15.04
[ LAUGHTER ] >> YOU
HAVE BEEN AT THIS A LONG
00:41:15.04\00:41:16.87
TIME. YOU HAVE
SEEN MANY PEOPLE COME
00:41:16.87\00:41:19.04
TO THE LORD, BUT
OBVIOUSLY THIS ONE IS SPECIAL.
00:41:19.04\00:41:22.01
SO PUT A CON --
CONCEPTIONAL THOUGHT ON THIS.
00:41:22.01\00:41:28.42
>> ONCE SHE CAME TO KNOW -pJESUS
-- ONCE A PERSON EMBRACES JESUS
AND FULLY TRUSTS HIM,
00:41:28.42\00:41:34.96
EVERYTHING ELSE -- IT WAS
JUST LIKE A FLOWER OPENING UP
00:41:34.96\00:41:39.93
BEAUTIFULLY. THINGS
THAT TROUBLE A LOT OF
00:41:39.93\00:41:43.13
PEOPLE, PEOPLE NOT
SURE ABOUT THE JUDGMENT.
00:41:43.13\00:41:44.77
AND THAT IN THE JUDGMENT GOD IS
GOING TO BE UP THERE LOOKING FOR
00:41:44.77\00:41:49.30
YOUR RECORDS. SHE
EMBRACED SOME TOPICS LIKE
00:41:49.30\00:41:54.68
THAT, BECAUSE JESUS WAS NOW HER
ATTORNEY AND DEFENSE COUNSEL, IT
00:41:54.68\00:41:58.68
WASN'T A BIG PROBLEM. MY
OWN LIFE, MY OWN SPIRITUAL
00:41:58.68\00:42:02.45
JOURNEY HAS BEEN ENRICHED.
YOU KNOW, I DEAL WITH ALL KINDS
00:42:02.45\00:42:06.25
OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, AND WORKING
WITH A GROUP OF REFUGEES RIGHT
00:42:06.25\00:42:09.76
NOW COMING IN FROM CONGO AND
RWANDA, JEANIE AND I HAVE KIND
00:42:09.76\00:42:15.53
OF ADOPTED 57
OF THEM AS OUR OWN.
00:42:15.53\00:42:18.83
WE'RE TRYING TO
START A CHURCH THERE.
00:42:18.83\00:42:20.50
AND THIS WEEK THEY ARE MEETING
FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH A
00:42:20.50\00:42:24.41
POTENTIAL PASTOR. SO
I HAVE MANY THINGS THAT
00:42:24.41\00:42:28.28
EXCITE ME IN MY MINISTRY
EVEN THOUGH I'M SEMIRETIRED.
00:42:28.28\00:42:33.01
JESUS SAYS YOU MUST
OCCUPY UNTIL I COME.
00:42:33.01\00:42:35.98
SO I KEEP OCCUPYING. AND
I'M GETTING INVOLVED WITH
00:42:35.98\00:42:47.66
YLONDA, I'M AN EVANGELIST, I'M
A HIRED GUN, AND I GO TO CAMP
00:42:47.66\00:42:59.37
MEETINGS NORTH AND SOUTH.
FROM NEW ZEALAND TO NEWFOUNDLAND
00:42:59.37\00:43:06.45
AND LABRADOR,
CANADA. BUT THIS WAS UNIQUE.
00:43:06.45\00:43:09.95
THIS WAS AMAZING. IT
REMINDS ME THAT THERE ARE SO
00:43:09.95\00:43:14.46
MANY OF GOD'S PEOPLE OUT THERE
THAT ARE -- THEY MAY BE UNDER A
00:43:14.46\00:43:20.20
ROCK -- >> UH-HUH.
00:43:20.20\00:43:21.33
>> -- AND LAURA WAS JUST FEELING
LIKE SHE HAD BEEN BURIED AND
WAS-JUST A LARVA EXISTING.
00:43:21.33\00:43:29.87
GOD SAW HER. HE KNEW HER.
00:43:29.87\00:43:31.77
>> YES. >> HE WANTED HER.
00:43:31.77\00:43:35.11
AND JUST LIKE HE SPOTTED THAT
LITTLE SPARK IN MARY MAGDALEN,
00:43:35.11\00:43:42.28
LAURA HAS A LOT OF DENSITY WITH
MARY MAGDALEN, WHO THE MEN HAVE
00:43:42.28\00:43:48.56
TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF HER
IN DIFFERENT WAYS, DIFFERENT
00:43:48.56\00:43:52.23
LEVELS, AND JUST TO BE A LITTLE
TINY PART, THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME,
00:43:52.23\00:43:58.30
CA OR ABOUT
LONNIE OR HIS TRAINING.
00:43:58.30\00:44:00.77
IT'S ABOUT JESUS. >> YEAH.
00:44:00.77\00:44:01.97
>> AND IT'S JUST A MARVELOUS
THING TO RECOGNIZE ONE OF THE
00:44:01.97\00:44:07.84
THINGS IN HEAVEN THAT WILL GIVE
GLORY TO JESUS AND THE FRUIT OF
00:44:07.84\00:44:13.98
OUR NEIGHBORS IN OUR LIVES IS
INDIVIDUALS THAT WE JUST ALLOWED
00:44:13.98\00:44:18.12
OURSELVES TO COME INTO CONTACT
WITH TO HELP ALONG LIFE'S
00:44:18.12\00:44:22.16
JOURNEY. AND YOU
AND I ARE PRIVILEGED TO
00:44:22.16\00:44:26.46
BE SPIRITUAL OBSTETRICIANS
IN THE BIRTH OF PEOPLE, AND THE
00:44:26.46\00:44:30.30
REAL JOY -- AND I JUST READ THIS
LAST WEEK -- SHE MAY FEEL SHE
00:44:30.30\00:44:37.94
WAS FLYING HIGH, BUT THE
GREATEST JOY FOR A MINISTER IS
00:44:37.94\00:44:42.41
TO SEE THAT HE STILL
HAS -- HE IS NOT DEAD.
00:44:42.41\00:44:45.28
>> AMEN. >> THAT
GOD IS STILL USING YOU
00:44:45.28\00:44:48.18
AND ALLOWING YOUR EXAMPLE
AND YOUR WITNESS TO MAKE A
00:44:48.18\00:44:51.25
DIFFERENCE, AND SO I HAVE
ASSURED HER THAT WE ARE FOREVER
00:44:51.25\00:44:54.59
FRIENDS NOW. >> AMEN.
00:44:54.59\00:44:56.56
>> AND SHE NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT
00:44:56.56\00:45:05.17
LOVES. THAT HAS
OPENED UP SOME AMAZING
00:45:05.17\00:45:07.34
NEWDY  -- NEW
DIMENSIONS FOR YOU, HASN'T IT?
00:45:07.34\00:45:20.42
>> YES, IT HAS.
>> AND THANK YOU.
00:45:20.42\00:45:24.42
[ LAUGHTER ] >> IT'S GOOD STUFF.
00:45:24.42\00:45:26.99
LAURA, I WANT YOU TO TAKE A
MINUTE AND COLLECT YOURSELF.
00:45:26.99\00:45:30.29
I WANT TO ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS.
TALK TO ME ABOUT THE OLD LAURA,
00:45:30.29\00:45:35.83
VERSUS THE NEW LAURA.
THE OLD LAURA IS THIS.
00:45:35.83\00:45:39.53
THE NEW LAURA IS THAT. >>
THE OLD LAURA, LIKE I SAID
00:45:39.53\00:45:47.18
LIVED FOR HERSELF, DIDN'T KNOW
GOD, WAS IN THE DARK, THOUGHT
00:45:47.18\00:45:56.02
THEY WAS -- HAD A GOOD CHANCE
TO GET TO HEAVEN BECAUSE I WAS
00:45:56.02\00:46:01.52
SECRETARY OF THE CHURCH AND WENT
TO CHURCH ALL MY LIFE, MOST OF
00:46:01.52\00:46:05.19
IT, AND I THOGHT I HAD IT
-- DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
00:46:05.19\00:46:09.73
IT. THE NEW
LAURA HAS DONE THINGS
00:46:09.73\00:46:13.27
THAT I NEVER WOULD HAVE DONE
BEFORE, GONE OUT AND TALKED TO
00:46:13.27\00:46:19.27
PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW, WITNESSING
AND TAKING HIS SERMONS TO A LADY
00:46:19.27\00:46:26.38
IN ILLINOIS, WHO NEEDED TO SEE
SOME OF THEM, AND I JUST -- I
00:46:26.38\00:46:35.09
HAVE MORE COURAGE NOW TO DO SOME
THINGS THAT I NEVER WOULD HAVE
00:46:35.09\00:46:39.89
DONE BEFORE, AND MY
-- I WANT TO HELP PEOPLE.
00:46:39.89\00:46:43.20
I WANT TO GET INVOLVED, AND I
DID -- DO A LOT OF PRAYING NOW
00:46:43.20\00:46:53.17
AND BIBLE READING NOW,
AND DEE -- DEE VOGUESES.
00:46:53.17\00:47:01.05
AND I'M A HAPPIER PERSON,
AND MY GOAL IS ABOUT JESUS.
00:47:01.05\00:47:07.62
>> AMEN. >> POWERFUL.
00:47:07.62\00:47:11.09
>> LAST QUESTION. GIVE
ME SOME SENSE OF WHO AND
00:47:11.09\00:47:14.30
WHAT YOU THOUGHT GOD AND JESUS
WAS BEFORE AS OPPOSED TO WHO AND
00:47:14.30\00:47:20.50
WHAT YOU KNOW GOD
AND JESUS ARE NOW.
00:47:20.50\00:47:22.70
>> NOW I KNOW JESUS IS LIKE BEST
FRIEND, AND THAT HE LOVES AND
00:47:22.70\00:47:30.48
CARES ABOUT ME, AND WANTS TO USE
ME TO REACH OTHERS AND HELP OUT
00:47:30.48\00:47:34.65
IN THAT WAY. >> UH-HUH.
00:47:34.65\00:47:39.05
>> BEFORE I JUST
DIDN'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT.
00:47:39.05\00:47:41.72
I WAS IN THE DARK.
I HAD AN EMPTY HEART.
00:47:41.72\00:47:45.19
I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT. >> HUM.
00:47:45.19\00:47:49.56
>> UH-HUH. >> BUT
NOW YOU KNOW BETTER, AND
00:47:49.56\00:47:53.27
YOU KNOW
DIFFERENTLY. AMEN AND AMEN.
00:47:53.27\00:47:56.30
>> I'M SO PROUD TO HEAR, AND I
WISH EVERY CHRISTIAN LISTENING,
00:47:56.30\00:48:00.74
WOULD RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE
OF THAT TIME ALONE WITH JESUS
00:48:00.74\00:48:04.38
EVERY SINGLE DAY. TO
SEEK JESUS THROUGH BIBLE
00:48:04.38\00:48:08.48
STUDY AND PRAYER. SHE
WILL TELL ME WHEN SHE IS
00:48:08.48\00:48:11.39
GOING TO HAWAII FOR VACATION,
AND SHE WAS WITH NON-CHRISTIAN,
00:48:11.39\00:48:17.33
NON-ADVENTIST, NON-BELIEVING
PEOPLE, AND SHE JUST FELT
00:48:17.33\00:48:23.06
STARVED WHEN THEY WERE OUT BUSY
AND GOING TO PLACES, THAT SHE
00:48:23.06\00:48:29.44
HADN'T HAD THAT PRIVATE
TIME. >> PRAISE THE LORD.
00:48:29.44\00:48:33.14
PRAISE THE LORD. WONDERFUL
TESTIMONY.-pTHANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:48:33.14\00:48:37.58
>> THANK YOU. >>
PASTOR, WELL DONE, MAN.
00:48:37.58\00:48:41.45
KEEP ON SERVING.
LAURA, GOD BLESS YOU.
00:48:41.45\00:48:45.19
GOD HAS SOME VERY
SPECIAL STUFF FOR YOU.
00:48:45.19\00:48:47.02
I GUARANTEE YOU. >> I'M READY.
00:48:47.02\00:48:50.76
>> KEEP YOUR HEART
OPEN, BECAUSE IT'S A COMING.
00:48:50.76\00:48:53.29
THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU.
00:48:53.29\00:48:55.36
>> AMEN. PRAISE THE LORD.
00:48:55.36\00:48:57.50
>> PRAISE THE LORD. >>
THIS IS ONE, BUT LITERALLY
00:48:57.50\00:49:01.90
EVERYWHERE WE TRAVEL AROUND THE
WORLD, I MEET PEOPLE WHO HAVE
00:49:01.90\00:49:05.64
COME TO KNOW JESUS
THROUGH WATCHING 3ABN.
00:49:05.64\00:49:08.48
WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT YOU,
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
00:49:08.48\00:49:12.28
LOVE AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
THIS IS THEN OF THE YEAR.
00:49:12.28\00:49:15.15
THERE IS NO RULE THAT SAYS
YOU HAVE TO GIVE AT THEN OF THE
00:49:15.15\00:49:18.85
YEAR, BUT IF YOU HAVE ALREADY
GIVEN MAYBE AT THE FIRST OF THE
00:49:18.85\00:49:22.66
YEAR, WE'LL
LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU.
00:49:22.66\00:49:25.16
THANK YOU. WE CAN'T
DO IT, BUT GOD IS SO
00:49:25.16\00:49:28.20
GOOD. IT SEEMS
LIKE HE IMPRESSES THE
00:49:28.20\00:49:31.53
RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE RIGHT TIME.
3ABN IS STILL ON THE AIR AFTER
00:49:31.53\00:49:35.14
32 YEARS SOMETIMES
YOU WONDER HOW THAT IS
00:49:35.14\00:49:37.64
GOING TO BE, RIGHT,
BRIAN, FROM MONTH-TO-MONTH.
00:49:37.64\00:49:41.91
BUT EVERY MONTH HE
BLESSES AND SUPPLIES.
00:49:41.91\00:49:44.78
MOLLIE SUE WHAT ARE YOU --
>> I'M THINKING WHEN WE GET TO
00:49:44.78\00:49:50.92
HEAVEN WE WILL KNOW THE
MANY SOULS THAT HAVE COME TO THE
00:49:50.92\00:49:56.32
LIGHT AS A
RESULT OF THIS MINISTRY.
00:49:56.32\00:49:58.66
AND AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, WHEN
OUR HEARTS ARE SOFTENED TOWARDS
00:49:58.66\00:50:03.06
THE LORD, WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY
TO SEW INTO A MINISTRY THAT IS
00:50:03.06\00:50:08.40
REACHING -- NOT JUST HERE IN
THESE UNITED STATES, BUT THERE
00:50:08.40\00:50:12.67
ARE HARVEST OF
SOULS ALL OVER THE WORLD.
00:50:12.67\00:50:15.31
THERE IS NO
PLACE THAT WE CAN GO.
00:50:15.31\00:50:17.98
EVERY INHABITED CONTINENT, THERE
ARE SOULS COMING TO THE LORD
00:50:17.98\00:50:23.15
JESUS CHRIST AS A
RESULT OF THE GOSPEL.
00:50:23.15\00:50:25.29
SO WE NEED HELP.
WE NEED YOUR HELP.
00:50:25.29\00:50:27.99
WE NEED YOU TO JOIN WITH US, AND
WE WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT
00:50:27.99\00:50:33.23
HAVE JOINED WITH US, SO
FAITHFULLY THROUGH THE YEARS.
00:50:33.23\00:50:36.53
WITHOUT YOU, WE
CAN'T DO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
00:50:36.53\00:50:38.80
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> AND AS YOU HELP US.
00:50:38.80\00:50:41.67
AS WE JOIN TOGETHER, THE
ONLY THING THAT HAPPENS IS THE
00:50:41.67\00:50:46.54
KINGDOM OF GOD IS EXPANDED, SO
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE
00:50:46.54\00:50:50.18
DONE THROUGH THE YEARS.
WE LOVE YOU, AND WE REALLY
00:50:50.18\00:50:53.21
APPRECIATE YOU. >> AND
JILL, WE'RE GETTING MORE
00:50:53.21\00:50:55.58
AND MORE PEOPLE.
IT'S A LITTLE SLOWER THAN
00:50:55.58\00:51:00.12
SOMETIMES WE WOULD LIKE, BUT
THAT HAVE JOINED THE BLESSING IS
00:51:00.12\00:51:07.40
ON THE GO!
TEAM. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:51:07.40\00:51:09.53
MONTHLY DONATION OF ANY SIZE, OR
SOME PEOPLE GIVE A LARGER AMOUNT
00:51:09.53\00:51:13.17
AND IT WORKS FOR A WHILE.
BUT WE WILL SEND YOU A TOOL THAT
00:51:13.17\00:51:19.11
YOU CAN PARTNER WITH US IN
SPREADING THE GOSPEL TO THE
00:51:19.11\00:51:23.71
WORLD. >> AMEN.
00:51:23.71\00:51:24.85
AND IT TAKES MANY, MANY PEOPLE.
3ABN IS A HUGE MINISTRY, AND
00:51:24.85\00:51:29.55
LITERALLY REACHES THE WORLD WITH
SEVEN OR EIGHT NETWORKS, WHO
00:51:29.55\00:51:36.32
KNOWS, IT MAY SOON BE TEN.
SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY ASKING YOU,
00:51:36.32\00:51:42.00
IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN A MONTHLY
GIVER, IF YOU WOULD ASK THE HOLY
00:51:42.00\00:51:47.74
SPIRIT WHAT HE
WOULD HAVE YOU DO.
00:51:47.74\00:51:49.60
WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD A
FOUNDATION LIKE THIS, THAT GOES
00:51:49.60\00:51:53.34
UP HERE, RATHER THAN MAYBE BIG
DONATIONS, AND THEY CAN'T GIVE
00:51:53.34\00:51:58.51
ALL THE TIME. BUT
THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE,
00:51:58.51\00:52:01.15
PRAYERS, FINANCIAL SUPPORT.
OUR TIME IS ALL GONE, UNTIL WE
00:52:01.15\00:52:05.19
SEE YOU NEXT TIME, MAY THE LORD
RICHLY BLESS YOU ABUNDANTLY MORE
00:52:05.19\00:52:13.70
THAN WHAT YOU
WOULD ASK FOR OR TAKE.
00:52:13.70\00:52:17.17
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