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Program Code: TL016528A
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00:01 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND LIFE, MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪
00:10 ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE REMOVING PAIN ♪ 00:22 ♪ LORD LET MY WORD ♪ ♪ LET MY WORD ♪ 00:28 ♪ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ 00:36 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪ 00:49 ♪ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ 01:04 >> HELLO, AND WELCOME YOU TO 3ABN TODAY LIVE. 01:09 MY NAME IS C.A. MURRAY. ALLOW ME ONCE AGAIN TO THANK YOU 01:13 FOR SHARING JUST A LITTLE OF YOUR NO-DOUBT BUSY DAY WITH US. 01:16 THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE, PRAYERS, SUPPORT FOR 3ABN 01:21 BROADCASTING NETWORK. WE SAY THIS OFTEN, BUT WE 01:24 REALIZE WE COULD NOT DO WHAT WE ARE CALLED TO DO WITHOUT YOUR 01:28 PARTNERSHIP, WITHOUT YOUR PRAYERS AND YOUR FINANCIAL 01:31 SUPPORT, SO WHEN WE SAY THANK YOU. 01:33 THESE WORDS COME FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE HEART, BECAUSE IT HAS 01:37 BEEN YOUR PRAYERS AND SUPPORT FOR THESE PAST 30-PLUS YEARS 01:41 THAT HAVE HELPED US TAKE THE GAS PELL TO THE FURTHER ENDS OF THE 01:46 EARTH. SO WHEN WE SAY THANK YOU. 01:48 PLEASE KNOW THAT THANK YOU COMES WITH THE LOVE AND RESPECT FOR 01:53 THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE HAD OVER THE YEARS. 01:55 I'M EXCITED TONIGHT BECAUSE OF OUR SUBJECT MATTER AND BECAUSE 01:58 OF OUR GUEST, WHO IS ONE WHO I HAVE FOLLOWED AND WHO I LIKE, 02:03 AND WHO'S MINISTRY HAS BLESSED NOT ONLY HIS LOCAL PARRISH, BUT 02:07 THE WORLD, THAT IS DR. CARLTON BYRD, DOCTOR, PASTOR, GOOD TO 02:12 HAVE YOU HERE. >> GOOD TO BE HERE. 02:15 >> WE'RE GOING TO DISPENSE WITH THE DOCTOR, IF YOU WILL. 02:20 >> PLEASE. >> SO WE'LL JUST BE CARLTON AND 02:24 C.A. IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU. 02:26 [ LAUGHTER ] >> HE IS THE PASTOR OF THE 02:30 SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH OF OAKWOOD COLLEGE. 02:36 AND ALSO THE SPEAKER, DIRECTOR OF BREATH OF LIFE. 02:39 AND IN BOTH CAPACITIES DOING A FINE JOB. 02:44 HE PREACHES HERE, THERE, AND EVERYWHERE. 02:49 WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OAKWOOD UNIVERSITY AND HIS 02:56 DUTIES THERE. THEN WE WANT TO TRANSITION INTO 02:59 WHAT HE IS DOING WITH BREATH OF LIFE, AND SEGUE INTO EVANGELISM. 03:07 BECAUSE HE HAS EXPERTISE IN ALL OF THAT STUFF. 03:10 YOU HAVE A LARGE AND LOYAL FOLLOWING ON THIS NETWORK. 03:14 AND YOU ARE ON MY PROGRAM, PROCLAIM! ALSO. 03:24 AND YOU DID MEETING IN BUFFALO, NEW YORK, NOT THAT LONG AGO, AND 03:28 MY SISTER ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS, AND SHE JUST FELL IN 03:34 LOVE WITH PASTOR CARLTON BYRD. EVERY NIGHT SHE WOULD GIVE ME 03:38 THE REPORT OF THE MEETING, AND SHE WOULD PRAISE YOU SO HIGHLY, 03:42 I SAID YOU HAVE TO LIGHTEN UP A LITTLE BIT, YOUR BROTHER HAS AN 03:46 EGO TOO. [ LAUGHTER ] 03:48 >> BUT SHE WAS IMPRESSED. I THINK THE MEETINGS TURNED OUT 03:51 VERY, VERY WELL. >> VERY GREAT. 03:54 GOD BLESSED US. OVER 120 INDIVIDUALS GAVE THEIR 03:58 LIVES TO THE LORD AND WERE BAPTIZED. 04:01 >> HOW LONG DID THE MEETINGS LAST? 04:03 >> THE PREACHING OF THE MEETINGS WAS ACTUALLY THREE WEEKS. 04:07 PRIOR TO THE PREACHING, OUR TEAM THEY WERE IN BUFFALO FOR ABOUT 04:12 FIVE WEEKS, KNOCKING ON DOORS, SOLICITING BIBLE STUDIES, AND 04:16 THEN THE PREACHING BEGAN AFTER THAT FIVE-WEEK PERIOD. 04:20 SO FIVE WEEKS PREWORK AS WE CALL IT. 04:23 >> YEAH. >> THREE WEEKS ACTUAL PREACHING. 04:26 AND THEN THE WORKERS STAYED BEHIND ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO HELP 04:31 GROUP THE PEOPLE. MY WIFE, OUR KIDS, THEY WERE 04:34 WITH US. WE HAD A GOOD TIME. 04:37 >> IT'S IN THAT YOU COULD DO IT IN THE SUMMER LIKE THAT. 04:41 >> DURING THE SUMMER IT IS MY DESIRE THAT EVERYWHERE I GO MY 04:46 WIFE AND CHILDREN ACCOMPANY US. >> EXCELLENT. 04:53 I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE PASTORING IN ATLANTA, YOU 04:58 DISTINGUISHED YOURSELF OR THE LORD WORKED THROUGH YOU -- WE 05:01 GOT TO KEEP OUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT HERE -- IN THAT I THINK 05:05 YOU WERE ONE OF THE HIGHEST CHURCH PASTOR/EVANGELISTS IN 05:10 THAT AREA FOR THAT PARTICULAR YEAR. 05:12 >> THAT IS CORRECT. GOD BLESSED IN SUCH A MARVELOUS 05:17 WAY IN ATLANTA, THAT OVER 1800 INDIVIDUALS WERE BAPTIZED. 05:22 OUR CHURCH WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE INNOVATIVE CHURCH OF THE YEAR, 05:26 ALONG WITH BEING THE NUMBER ONE SOUL WINNING CHURCH DURING THAT 05:31 PERIOD. WE WERE PROCLAIMED TO THE 05:35 FASTEST GROWING SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH DURING THAT 05:41 PERIOD. >> YOU TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT 05:43 IS DEAR TO MY HEART. THERE MAY BE SOME PASTORS, 05:48 MEMBERS, ELDERS, WHO WANT TO DO EVANGELISM. 05:54 WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT THE LORD DID THROUGH YOU IN THAT 06:01 PARTICULAR CHURCH. SOMETHING THAT YIELDED RESULTS. 06:05 WHAT WAS THAT? >> NUMBER 1 I BELIEVE THAT WE 06:08 HAVE TO GET BACK TO WHAT GOD HAS CALLED US TO DO, AND THAT IS TO 06:12 SHARE THE GAS PELL -- GOSPEL. IF WE SEEK GOD FIRST AND HIS 06:21 RIGHTEOUSNESS THEN ALL OF THESE THINGS SHALL BE ADDED UNTO YOU, 06:26 SO EVERYTHING WE DO SHOULD CENTER AROUND EVANGELISM. 06:30 I THINK THAT IS NUMBER 1. AND WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL 06:34 ABOUT THAT IN ATLANTA. NUMBER 2, BE FAITHFUL. 06:39 BE FAITHFUL. GOD REWARDS FAITHFULNESS. 06:44 EACH DAY I WAKE UP, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT TELLING SOMEBODY 06:49 ABOUT JESUS. I'LL LAY IN BED AT NIGHT, AND MY 06:52 WIFE WILL SAY WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT? 06:55 AND I'LL SAY I'M THINKING ABOUT HOW TO WIN MORE SOULS FOR THE 07:00 KINGDOM. SO I'LL BOUNCE IDEAS OFF OF HER. 07:03 SHE'LL TELL ME WHAT SHE THINKS, HONESTLY, TRANSPARENTLY. 07:08 AND THAT'S WHO I AM. LET'S DO WHAT GOD CALLED US TO 07:12 DO AND THEN BE FAITHFUL IN DO DOING IT. 07:15 >> YOU WERE RUNNING A MEETING EVERY YEAR. 07:19 >> EVERY YEAR. ONE MEETING WOULD BE A PUBLIC 07:24 EVANGELISM CAMPAIGN, ANOTHER COULD BE A PROPHETSY SEMINAR 07:33 CLASS, AND THEN MORE OF A REAPING MEETING IF YOU WILL. 07:37 VERY INTENNING SHUNNAL ABOUT IT. I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT WAS JUST 07:42 ME ME ME ME ME, THE MEMBERS WERE VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE. 07:47 IT HAS A GREAT LEGACY OF PASTORS. 07:50 TWO IN PARTICULAR, ELDER HL CLEVELAND. 07:54 HE WAS VERY EVANGELISTICALLY FOCUSED. 07:59 ALSO MY PREDECESSOR WITH BREATH OF LIFE, AGAIN, EVANGELISM, 08:07 EVANGELISM, SO IN THE DNA OF THE PEOPLE, THE LEGACY OF PASTORS 08:12 THERE, THEY WERE REALLY INTO EVANGELISM. 08:15 DURING OUR TIME THERE, IT WAS REALLY, REALLY PROFITABLE IN 08:20 TERMS OF EVANGELISM, AND THE NUMBERS. 08:23 >> YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO STRONG ARM YOUR PEOPLE, THEY WERE SET IN 08:26 THAT MIND SET WHEN YOU GOT THERE, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF 08:30 GIVING THEM A FOCUS ON WHAT TO DO, AND THEY DID IT. 08:34 >> CORRECT. WHEN I ARRIVED THERE. 08:37 I WAS KIND OF UNPRECEDENTED IN MY AGE, BUT A LOT OF THE SENIOR 08:42 ADULT MEMBERS WOULD ALWAYS SAY YOU REMIND US OF -- AND 08:47 THEREFORE, I CAME WITH CREATIVE AND INNOVATIVE IDEAS, IF YOU 08:51 WILL. THERE WAS A STRONG APPRECIATION 08:54 FOR THE EVANGELISTIC FOCUS. WITH THAT, THEY REALLY BOUGHT 08:58 IN -- BECAUSE MANY OF THEM THEMSELVES, THAT'S HOW THEY WERE 09:04 ONCE THROUGH THIS WONDERFUL MESSAGE. 09:06 SO IT WORKS OUT WELL. >> LET ME GIVE YOU YOUR FLOWERS 09:11 WHILE YOU CAN STILL SMELL THEM. BECAUSE YOU PRACTICE WHAT YOU 09:15 PREACH. AND EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE A PASTOR 09:18 ON A UNIVERSITY CAMPUS, AND CARRY OTHER HATS, YOU STILL MAKE 09:23 TIME FOR EVANGELISM IN YOUR SCHEDULE EVEN NOW. 09:26 >> YES, AND I WOULD DARE TO SAY, MY MEMBERS, WHILE WE ARE ON A 09:32 CAMPUS, WHILE WE ARE AN INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH, THEY TOO 09:38 HAVE BEEN THERE FOR FOUR AND A HALF YEARS NOW, AND THEY HAVE 09:41 BOUGHT INTO AND SUPPORTED PUBLIC EVANGELISM. 09:44 IT IS RARE THAT ON AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS THAT YOU 09:48 ENGAGE IN A PUBLIC EVANGELISTIC CAMPAIGN ON A SYSTEMATIC BASIS. 09:55 BUT EVEN AT OAKWOOD, MINIMALLY ONCE A YEAR, WE ENGAGE IN A FULL 10:02 THRUST EVANGELISTIC CAMPAIGN. IT'S NOT ONLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE 10:07 CHURCH MEMBERSHIP, IT'S NOT ONLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS 10:14 IN HUNTSVILLE, BUT IT IS ALSO VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE STUDENTS 10:19 TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHAT WE AS A CHURCH ARE ALL ABOUT. 10:23 THAT OUR THEOLOGY MAYORS, AND ALL OF OUR STUDENTS THERE, 10:27 UNDERSTAND THAT EVANGELISM IS THE LIFE BLOOD OF THE CHURCH. 10:31 THE MODEL AT OAKWOOD AS YOU KNOW, ENTER TO LEARN, DEPART TO 10:36 SERVE. PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS 10:38 WHO WE ARE, SO WHEN THEY FINISH AT OAKWOOD, THEY UNDERSTAND WHEN 10:42 THEY GO BACK TO THEIR HOME CHURCH THAT EVANGELISM IS PART 10:46 OF WHO WE ARE. AND I THINK THAT'S VERY 10:49 IMPORTANT THAT THEY BECOME AMBASSADORS FOR EVANGELISM, FOR 10:53 CHURCH GROWTH SO THAT DOESN'T STOP. 10:55 WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP IT GOING. SO IT BENEFITS THE CHURCH. 10:59 IT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO THE STUDENTS, BECAUSE THEY 11:03 BECOME EVANGELISTS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT. 11:06 >> UH-HUH. NOW THAT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR THE 11:08 SCHOOL ON THE SCHOOL OR NEAR THE SCHOOL, BUT ALSO IN THE SUMMER 11:11 YOU TAKE OFF AND DO EVANGELISM SOMEPLACE OFF. 11:15 >> DEFINITELY. IN ATLANTA -- IN HUNTSVILLE I DO 11:20 THREE MEETINGS A YEAR. ONLY ONE IN HUNTSVILLE, BUT TWO 11:24 ARE ELSEWHERE. SO 2016 ALREADY, THREE MEETINGS 11:27 HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED. OUR FIRST WAS IN ORLANDO, 11:33 FLORIDA, JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. AND IT WORKED OUT BECAUSE OF THE 11:37 WEATHER. YOU CAN RUN MEETINGS YEAR-ROUND 11:39 IN FLORIDA. SO 100 PEOPLE MADE DECISIONS FOR 11:43 BAPTISM. 50 PERSONS WERE BAPTIZED WITH 11:45 ANOTHER 50 BEING FOLLOWED UP WITH THE LOCAL PASTORS THERE. 11:50 THEN MOVED ON TO HUNTSVILLE, AND MOST RECENTLY WE WERE IN BOOK 11:55 LISTEN, NEW YORK. AND IN BROOKLYN, WE CONDUCTED A 11:58 MEETING THERE, AND WE WERE BLESSED AS WELL. 12:02 SO OVER 200 INDIVIDUALS HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIFE TO THE LORD 12:06 THROUGH BAPTISM. AND WE THANK THE LORD FOR THAT. 12:10 EVEN THOUGH IN ATLANTA THERE WAS THREE MEETINGS IN ONE CHURCH, 12:14 WE'RE STILL DOING THREE MEETINGS, JUST NOT IN ONE 12:18 LOCATION. >> PRAISE GOD. 12:19 PRAISE GOD. ISN'T THAT KIND OF SUCCESS OR 12:23 REGIMEN ADDICTIVE? >> OH, MAN, YOU KNOW THAT. 12:27 YOU KNOW THAT. WHEN YOU SEE INDIVIDUALS COMING 12:30 DOWN -- >> YEAH. 12:33 >> -- TO GIVE THEIR LIFE TO THE LORD THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT 12:36 THAT, YOU GET A RUSH. AND YOU BEGIN TO SAY WE HAVE TO 12:40 KEEP DOING THIS. E 12:45 EVAN -- EVANGELISTS WILL MAKE AN APPEAL COME ON DOWN. 12:51 >> ABSOLUTELY. >> MANY BUFFALO, WE GOT DOWN TO 12:54 THE END OF THE REVIVAL, AND FRIDAY NIGHT I WAS PREACHING ON 12:57 THE TRUE CHURCH AND I WAS PREACHING UP THERE AND ENJOYING 13:01 IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU PREACH. 13:04 >> OH, VERY MUCH SO. >> AND WE WERE IN A 1200 SEAT 13:09 AUDITORIUM. AND PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 300 13:12 PEOPLE IN THE AUDITORIUM, SO WE'RE MAKING THIS APPEAL. 13:15 AND I'M SAYING LORD, IT'S 1200 PEOPLE, ONLY 300 ARE HERE. 13:20 HOW IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN? I NEVER WILL FORGET, C.A., MADE 13:25 THAT APPEAL, AND IT APPEARED THAT THE ENTIRE CONGREGATION 13:30 CAME DOWN AND RESPONDED TO THE APPEAL. 13:33 I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN MY LIFE WHERE OVER HALF OF THE 13:38 PERSONS THERE RESPONDED FOR BAPTISM, WHAT A WONDERFUL 13:42 EXPERIENCE. AND, AGAIN, WE HAD BEEN 13:44 PREACHING THREE WEEKS, A TOTAL OF EIGHT WEEKS, I SAID TO 13:47 MYSELF, WE NEED TO GO ANOTHER WEEK, BECAUSE YOU ARE JUST 13:51 EXCITED BECAUSE IT'S CONTAGIOUS WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THEIR LIFE TO 13:54 THE LORD. AND THE WONDERFUL THING ABOUT 13:56 THAT IS THE PERSONS WHO RESPOND THEY KNOW OTHER PEOPLE -- 13:59 >> YES. >> -- SO ITT'S LIKE YOU WANT TO 14:05 KEEP GOING AND GOING. BUT ALL GOOD THINGS MUST COME TO 14:09 AN END. OUR DAUGHTERS NEEDED TO START 14:12 SCHOOL THE NEXT WEEK, SO WE HAD TO STOP. 14:16 BUT IT IS VERY CONTAGIOUS AND A GOOD CONTAGIOUS. 14:21 >> YES. WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT 14:23 THAT. IT IS GETTING TOUGHER TO GAIN 14:28 SOULS. I THINK MY FIRST MEETING I RAN 14:30 ON $3,000. AND WE BAPTIZED 57. 14:36 SO IT HAS GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT KIND OF EVAN GALLY. 14:41 AND IT'S A TOUGHER PLACE -- THE WORLD IS A TOUGHER PLACE TO WORK 14:46 IN, AND YET THE SPIRIT OF GOD IS STILL MOVING IN OUR HEARTS. 14:50 >> YES. >> I WANT TO GET A LITTLE 14:53 HISTORY ON YOU. BEFORE WE GO INTO [ INAUDIBLE ] 14:58 I WANTED TO GET WHERE YOU CAME FROM, AND THAT WHOLE THING. 15:02 >> OKAY. >> SO LET'S GO TO OUR MUSIC JUST 15:05 NOW. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND 15:07 WEIGH INTO THE PERSONAL LIFE OF OUR DEAR PASTER AND FRIEND. 15:19 NEVILLE PETER IS GOING TO BE SINGING "LET IT RAIN." 15:37 ♪ LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ LET IT POUR ♪ 15:46 ♪ I'M LONGING FOR YOUR PRESENCE TO DELIVER AND RESTORE ♪ 15:55 ♪ LET YOUR LIGHT WASH OVER ME ♪ ♪ FROM WHERE YOU FEAR IT IS, I 16:09 AM FREE ♪ ♪ BLESS YOUR HOLLY NAME ♪ 16:14 ♪ SO LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ LET IT RAIN ♪ 16:23 ♪ OH, JESUS, SING WITH ME ♪ ♪ LET IT RAIN ♪ 16:30 ♪ LET IT POUR ♪ I'M LONGING FOR YOUR PRESENCE TO 16:40 DELIVER AND RESTORE ♪ ♪ LET YOUR LIGHT WASH OVER ME ♪ 16:52 ♪ FROM WHERE YOUR SPIRIT IS, I AM FREE ♪ 17:00 ♪ LET YOUR HOLLY NAME, LORD, LET IT RAIN ♪ 17:06 ♪ LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ RENEW MY HEART AGAIN ♪ 17:14 ♪ I'M LONGING FOR YOUR HAND ♪ ♪ QUENCH MY THIRSTY SOUL IN THIS 17:28 DRY AND BAREN LAND ♪ ♪ NO MATTER HOW MUCH RAIN MUST 17:34 FALL IN THESE DAYS ♪ ♪ AND I KNOW IT WILL CAUSE ME 17:40 PAIN ♪ ♪ WHEN I BLESS YOUR NAME ♪ 17:45 ♪ BUT LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ LORD LET IT POUR ♪ 17:53 ♪ I'M LONGING FOR YOUR PRESENCE TO DELIVER AND RESTORE ♪ 18:02 ♪ LORD YOUR LOVE WASH OVER ME ♪ ♪ FROM WHERE YOUR SPIRIT IS, I 18:16 AM FREE, TO BLESS YOUR HOLLY NAME ♪ 18:20 ♪ LORD LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ LET IT RAIN ♪ 18:31 ♪ THE LIGHTER RAIN IT MUST FALL IN THESE LAST AND EVIL DAYS ♪ 18:41 ♪ AND I KNOW IT WILL CAUSE ME PAIN WHEN I BLESS YOUR NAME, 18:51 JESUS ♪ ♪ BUT LET IT RAIN ♪ 18:57 ♪ LORD LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ LORD LET IT RAIN ♪ 19:06 ♪ LORD LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ OH, EVEN IF IT CAUSES PAIN, 19:14 EVEN IF IT CAUSES PAIN ♪ ♪ LORD IF IT CAUSES PAIN, LET IT 19:20 RAIN ♪ ♪ OH, LET IT RAIN ♪ 19:29 ♪ IT MUST FALL IN THESE LAST AND EVIL DAYS ♪ 19:37 ♪ AND I KNOW IT WILL CAUSE ME PAIN ♪ 19:41 ♪ WHEN I BLESS YOUR NAME ♪ ♪ BUT LORD LET IT RAIN ♪ 19:50 ♪ LORD LET IT RAIN ♪ ♪ LET IT RAIN DOWN IN MY LIFE ♪ 20:01 ♪ LET IT RAIN DOWN IN MY SOUL ♪ ♪ LET IT RAIN ♪ 20:19 >> AMEN, AND AMEN. NEVILLE PETER, "LET IT RAIN." 20:34 YOU ALWAYS KNOW SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS YOU, 20:37 AND YOU ARE ALL RELATED BY FAITH IF NOTHING ELSE, AND YOU START 20:42 DIGGING UP STORIES FROM THE PAST, BUT FROM THOSE WHO DON'T 20:46 KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU FROM ORIGINALLY. 20:51 >> BATON ROUGE, LOUISIANA. >> ADVENTIST HOME? 20:59 >> YES. MY FATHER WAS IN SEMINARY AT THE 21:01 TIME I WAS BORN. IN FACT I'M A TWIN. 21:04 >> IS THAT SO? >> YES. 21:06 AND SO HE WAS AT SEMINARY AT THE TIME, SO MY MOTHER REQUESTED, 21:12 SHE SAID LET'S HAVE THE KIDS IN BATON ROUGE, WHERE SHE GETS 21:17 SUPPORT. >> OH, YEAH. 21:18 >> I WAS BORN IN BATON ROUGE. AFTER A SHORT TIME THERE, WE ALL 21:23 WENT BACK UP TO WHERE MY FATHER WAS STUDYING IN MICHIGAN. 21:28 BUT BECAUSE I'M A PK, A PREACHER'S KID, YOU MOVE FROM 21:34 PLACE TO PLACE TO PLACE, BATON ROUGE, MICHIGAN, PONTIAC, 21:40 MICHIGAN. SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 21:44 ST. PETERSBURG, FLORIDA. FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA, 21:53 JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA. AND MY OLDER BROTHER AND SISTER, 21:56 WE WERE AT OAKWOOD. AND THEN YOU BEGIN YOUR OWN 22:00 TRACK. SO I REALLY SAY FLORIDA IS WHERE 22:03 I GREW UP. FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA IS 22:07 WHERE MY FATHER PASTORED THE CHURCH FOR NINE YEARS. 22:11 THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP, MIDDLE SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL THERE IN 22:15 FLORIDA. >> WHAT DOES YOUR BROTHER DO? 22:17 >> HE IS IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA. HE IS IN RETAIL MANAGEMENT 22:21 THERE. HE IS THERE. 22:22 MY SISTER, SHE IS IN FLORIDA, LIVING WITH MY PARENTS THERE, 22:26 WHICH IS A GOOD THING, AND SHE WORKS FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND 22:29 THE COUNTY THERE IN FLORIDA. >> PK, BEING A PREACHER'S KID 22:35 GUARANTEES NOTHING. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 22:38 >> YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. 22:41 SOME SAY THAT PREACHER'S KIDS ARE THE WORST, I DON'T BELIEVE 22:45 THAT. I THINK THEY MAY HAVE TROUBLE 22:47 LIVING UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS WHICH MAY BE UNREALISTIC. 22:50 FOR YOU DID YOU PLAY IT STRAIGHT WITH THE LORD? 22:53 HOW WAS IT IN YOUR GROWING UP TIME IN THE HOUSE OF PASTOR AND 22:59 BEING IN THE FISH BOWL THAT A PASTOR'S CHILD AFFORDS YOU. 23:03 >> PRETTY STRAIGHT. WE WERE VERY ACTIVE, MY BROTHER, 23:08 SISTER AND I WERE VERY ACTIVE IN THE CHURCH. 23:11 AND MY PARENTS WERE VERY INTENTIONAL IN THAT. 23:18 WE WOULD IN THE YOUTH MINISTRIES, BASKETBALL TEAMS AT 23:23 CHURCH, AND WHAT NOT. SO CHURCH WAS A VERY INTEGRAL 23:28 PART OF OUR LIVES, AND WE ENJOYED IT. 23:31 SO PRETTY STRAIGHT. EVERY YEAR CAMP MEETING. 23:34 >> OH, YES. >> SO WE ENJOYED IT. 23:37 SO I WOULD DARE TO SAY THAT THOSE FORMATIVE YEARS WERE VERY, 23:40 VERY PROFITABLE FOR ME IN TERMS OF MY LATER YEARS IN MINISTRY. 23:45 MY FASTER WOULD ALWAYS TELL ME, YOU ARE GOING TO BE A BETTER 23:50 PASTOR THAN I, BECAUSE YOU WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO 23:55 DO. SO VERY INVOLVED YOUTH ELDER. 23:57 AND TOOK AN INTEREST IN IT. IT WASN'T THAT I WAS FORCED. 24:04 I WANTED TO BE INVOLVED. TOOK A GREAT INTEREST IN IT, 24:08 PRIDE IN MY CHURCH. AND THOSE THINGS WERE VERY 24:11 HELPFUL FOR ME. >> HUH-UH. 24:16 HE DID PASS THE GIFT ON TO YOU AT AN EARLY AGE, HIM SAYING YOU 24:21 ARE GOING TO BE BETTER THAN I? WAS THAT WHEN YOU, FAIRLY YOUNG 24:26 OR LATER ON? >> I WAS FAIRLY YOUNG. 24:29 HE KNEW. AND I WOULD DARE TO SAY I KNEW 24:33 THAT THE LORD PLACED THIS CALLING ON MY LIFE. 24:36 MY MOTHER CHURCH SCHOOL TEACHER, PLAYS PE -- PIANO. 24:46 MY GRANDPARENTS BOTH STRONG IN THE CHURCH. 24:48 MY FATHER'S FATHER WAS A LAY PASTOR. 24:54 PARENTS. >> SO IT WAS ANT STRETCH. 24:56 >> ALL OF MY AUNTS AND UNCLES ON BOTH SIDES, ATTENDED OAKWOOD 25:03 UNIVERSITY, OAKWOOD COLLEGE BACK THEN. 25:05 SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND PROBABLY THE MAJORITY -- 95% OF THEIR 25:09 CHILDREN, MY FIRST COUSINS, WE ALL ATTENDED OAKWOOD. 25:15 SO VERY DEEPLY ROOTED WITHIN OUR CHURCH. 25:17 WHICH IS A GOOD THING. >> SURE. 25:20 SURE. SO THE FOLLOW-UP FOR ME WOULD 25:23 BE, IT IS ONE THING TO HAVE A PROPHESIZED OVER YOU THAT YOU 25:28 ARE GOING TO BE A PASTOR, IT IS ANOTHER THING FOR YOU TO FEEL 25:32 THAT WAY. WHEN DID THE ONE ON ONE 25:35 RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JESUS AND YOU COME? 25:38 WAS IT AN OVER TIME, DRAMATIC THING, OR DID YOU JUST SETTLE 25:42 INTO THE TRUTH? >> OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. 25:45 WHEN I WAS AT OAKWOOD, I MAJORED IN THEOLOGY AND BUSINESS 25:51 MANAGEMENT WITH AN EMPHASIS IN ACCOUNTING. 25:53 SO I HAD A DUEL MAJOR. I REMEMBER I WENT HOME TO 26:00 FLORIDA, AND THERE WAS A PASTOR THAT SAID IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO 26:06 MINISTRY, RUN AS FAR AWAY FROM IT AS YOU CAN, AND IF GOD CALLS 26:11 YOU BACK, THEN YOU KNOW. >> RUNNING AWAY FOR ME, WAS NOT 26:16 RUNNING AWAY FROM THE WORLD, SO WHEN I WAS AT OAKWOOD, MY FIRST 26:22 TWO SUMMERS, I TOOK INTERNSHIPS IN THE BUSINESS AREA. 26:29 I WORKED ONE SUMMER AT HARTFORD LIFE INSURANCE. 26:33 I WAS AN ACCOUNTING INTERN. LOVED IT. 26:37 GOOD MONEY. GREAT EXPOSURE. 26:40 BUT IT WASN'T ME. ONE SUMMER I WORKED IN THE CITY, 26:45 MIDLAND, MICHIGAN, DOW CORNING CORPORATION, DOW CHEMICAL, 26:51 ACCOUNTING INTERN. LOVED IT. 26:54 GREAT MONEY. EXPOSED. 26:56 WONDERFUL. BUT IT WASN'T ME. 26:58 THE MINISTRY WAS WHO I WAS. SO FOR ME THAT WAS MY -- WELL, 27:02 LET ME TRY THIS. GOOD GRADES IN SCHOOL, GOD 27:06 BLESS. EXPERIENCE, EXPOSURE, BUT THE 27:08 LORD CALLED ME TO MINISTRY. AND SO THAT THAT CALLING WAS ON 27:16 MY LIFE, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO. 27:19 AS I BEGAN TO PASTOR, POST MY OAKWOOD YEARS, GOT HIRED, WAS 27:25 SENT TO A CITY, SO-SO, MISSISSIPPI. 27:29 GREAT EXPERIENCE. IN FACT I WANT TO SHARE ONE. 27:34 I WAS IN SOSO, MISSISSIPPI. SINGLE AT THE TIME. 27:42 NOT MARRIED. DATING MY WIFE, BUT NOT MARRIED. 27:46 THE CHURCH HAD TWO ACTIVE MEMBERS. 27:50 >> AS IN ONE, TWO. >> TWO. 27:54 [ LAUGHTER ] >> BOTH OF THEM, LITERALLY. 27:56 BOTH OF THEM WERE OVER 65. >> OH, WOW. 28:00 >> TWO ACTIVE MEMBERS, AND I NEVER WILL FORGET MY PRESS SESZ 28:06 OR IN THAT DISTRICT SAID WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LET THE 28:09 CHURCH DIE ON YOU. WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LET IT 28:12 DIE ON YOU. AND TWO MEMBERS. 28:14 I SAID WHAT CAN I DO? YOU KNOW, THE CHURCH HAD LIMITED 28:20 FUNDING. PRETTY MUCH MY TITHE AND 28:22 OFFERING WAS WHAT KEPT IT GOING. THOSE MEMBERS WERE ON FIXED 28:27 INCOMES. >> DID YOU HAVE YOUR OWN 28:29 BUILDING? >> WE HAD OUR OWN BUILDING. 28:30 I CUT THE GRASS. PAINTED THE WALLS. 28:34 PEOPLE THINK OH, YOU ARE THOUSANDS -- I SAID YOU HAVE NO 28:37 IDEA HOW IT ALL BEGAN. SO -- AND THAT WAS DURING ANNER 28:42 ARE, THE INTERNET WAS NOT LIKE IT IS NOW. 28:45 THAT WAS 22 YEARS AGO. CELL PHONE ACCESS WAS NOT -- I 28:51 WAS JUST WORKING. AND I SAID I HAVE GOT TO DO 28:55 SOMETHING EVANGELISTIC. AND SO WHAT I DID, WAS I'M GOING 29:00 TO RUN AND CONDUCT A VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL. 29:04 >> YEAH. >> AND SO I WENT ON MY COMPUTER, 29:07 GOT A LITTLE FLIER TOGETHER, VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL, AND I SAW 29:13 TWO LITTLE BOYS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I SAID, 29:16 LISTEN, I WILL BUY YOU A McDONALD'S HAPPY MEAL IF YOU 29:19 PASS ALL OF THESE FLIERS OUT. BUT I MADE SURE THEY PASSED THEM 29:25 OUT BEFORE I GAVE THEM THE MONEY FOR THE HAPPY MEAL. 29:29 THEY PASSED THE FLIERS OUT. SUNDAY NIGHT WAS THE OPENING 29:35 NIGHT. THAT FIRST NIGHT, 53 CHILDREN 29:38 CAME. >> OH, PRAISE THE LORD. 29:40 >> SO I BEGAN TO PLAY GAMES WITH THEM. 29:43 AND I TOLD THE LADIES, IF YOU ALL WOULD YOU JUST DO THE 29:51 REFRESHMENT. THEY WOULD TELL THEIR FRIENDS 29:52 ABOUT IT. AND REMEMBER, NOW, MYSELF AND 29:55 THESE TWO LADIES. SO I HAD TO MAKE SOME CALLS, AND 29:59 SOLICIT SOME HELP FROM SOME OF THE OTHER AREA CHURCHES IN OUR 30:03 DISTRICT. SOME PEOPLE CAME, AND AT 30:07 SABBATH, ONLY ONE WEEK NOW, THAT SABBATH, I SAID WE'RE GOING TO 30:13 HAVE OUR BBS CLOSING PROGRAM AT 11:00 AM DURING MORNING WORSHIP. 30:19 AND I SAID TO THE KIDS, INVITE ALL OF YOUR PARENTS. 30:23 THEY INVITED ALL OF THEIR PARENTS. 30:25 THEY SANG SONGS. AND THAT WAS MY WAY IN NOW TO 30:29 CONNECT WITH THE PARENTS. GOD BLESSED. 30:32 I THEN SAID LET'S RUN A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN. 30:35 AND THEY SAID WE DON'T HAVE A MAGICIAN OR A BIBLE WORKER. 30:39 I SAID WE'RE GOING TO ASK THESE PARENTS TO COME. 30:43 WELL, GOD BLESSED AND AFTER THAT CAMPAIGN, WE BAPTIZED THREE 30:50 PEOPLE. SO OUR MEMBERSHIP WENT FROM 2 TO 30:52 5. SO MORE THAN DOUBLED. 30:55 I LEFT THERE, SENT ME TO THE SEMINARY. 31:00 AND THE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME CALLED ME BACK FOR WORKERS 31:05 MEETING IN JANUARY. AND TYPICALLY YOU WOULD 31:08 RECOGNIZE PASTORS IN THE PRECEDING YEAR WHAT THEY HAD 31:11 DONE. >> YES. 31:12 >> SO IT GOT TIME FOR PASTOR EVANGELISTS OF THE YEAR, SO I'M 31:17 THINKING THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE THIS AWARD TO SOMEONE ELSE. 31:21 HE SAID OUR PASTOR EVANGELIST FOR THE YEAR IS CLAY CLAY. 31:27 BECAUSE PER CAPITA HE RAISED HIS MEMBERSHIP BY 150%. 31:38 SO THAT BECAME CONTAGIOUS. THE LORD BLESSED AFTER I GOT A 31:44 SEMINARIRY. IN TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA THE LORD 31:48 GAVE US 13 SOULS. WENT TO NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, IN 31:53 THE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS I WAS THERE, THE LORD GAVE US 300 32:01 SOULS. IT WAS DURING MY TIME IN 32:04 NASHVILLE, THAT MY WIFE AND I -- WE WERE MARRIED WHEN I WAS 32:08 IN TUSCALOOSA, AND WENT TO NASHVILLE. 32:10 IT WAS DURING THAT TIME WE SHARED OUR TESTIMONY HERE ON 32:14 3ABN, WHERE WE LOST OUR FIRST DAUGHTER IN A TRAGIC CAR 32:17 ACCIDENT. BUT IN NASHVILLE, IN BAPTIZING 32:20 THE PEOPLE THERE, I BEGAN TO REALIZE THAT MY INSTITUTIONAL 32:25 SEVENTH SEVENTH DAYED A -- DAYED A 32:35 VENNTISM COULDN'T SAVE ME. AND WHEN I WENT TO THAT CITY AND 32:39 KNOCKED ON DOORS, SOLICITING BIBLE STUDY, AND THE LORD BEGAN 32:46 TO PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE THAT DID NOT LOOK LIKE ME, OR 32:51 SMELL LIKE ME, BUT THEY WERE STILL GOD'S CHILDREN, IT CHANGED 32:55 ME. IT CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE ON 32:57 LIFE AND PEOPLE. I HAD THE FERVOR BEFORE, BUT 33:03 THAT WENT UP EXPONENTIALLY TO SHARE THE GOSPEL. 33:08 IT WAS A NEW CHURCH PLANT. BUILT A CHURCH THERE. 33:12 FROM THERE WENT TO HOUSTON, IN THE 3.5 YEARS 500 PEOPLE 33:17 BAPTIZED. >> PRAISE GOD. 33:19 >> TO ATLANTA, 1800 PEOPLE BAPTIZED. 33:22 GOT TO HUNTSVILLE, BEEN THERE 4.5 YEARS, 400 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN 33:29 BAPTIZED. THE LORD HAS GROWN ME. 33:30 AND MY PRAYERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SAVE ME BY THE SAME GOSPEL I 33:35 SEEK TO SHARE WITH OTHERS. NOT ONLY DO YOU SEE OTHER PEOPLE 33:43 SAVED BUT YOU SEE ME SAVED. AND I PRAISE GOD. 33:46 >> PRAISE GOD. I THINK I HEAR YOU SAYING -- ARE 33:49 YOU SAYING THAT WHEN YOU CAME INTO THE MINISTRY, YOU WERE NOT 33:54 CONVERTED? OR YOU WERE NOT A -- A 33:57 PERFECTED, OR MATURE PERSON? THERE WAS STILL SOME OF YOU IN 34:02 THERE THAT THE LORD HAD TO SAND OUT OVER TIME. 34:05 BECAUSE A LOT OF US COME IN LIKE THAT. 34:07 >> I WANT TO SAY I WAS CONVERTED. 34:10 I HAVE NEVER DRUNK IN MY LIFE OR SMOKED, SO, YOU KNOW. 34:14 BUT HE -- HE HAS GROWN ME. AND HE IS STILL GROWING ME. 34:18 I TELL MY MEMBERS AT OAKWOOD ALL THE TIME, I'M NOT THE PERSON I 34:23 WAS 4.5 YEARS AGO. AND THAT'S SANCTIFICATION. 34:28 SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT FORMERLY BOTHERED ME, DON'T 34:33 BROTHER ME ANYMORE. LIFE IS TOO SHORT, DEATH TOO 34:36 SHORT, AND HELL TOO HOT FOR US TO BE PLAYING CHURCH, YOU KNOW? 34:40 I LOVE THE LORD, AND I WANT TO SHARE GOD'S LOVE WITH AS MANY 34:45 PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AND HE IS CONTINUALLY GROWING ME AND 34:49 PERFECTING ME AND PRUNING ME AND ARRANGING ME, AND I THANK GOD 34:54 FOR THAT. >> YEAH. 34:56 YEAH. I SUSPECT THAT THAT PROCESS IS 34:57 NECESSARY NOT ONLY TO MINISTER, BUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE A 35:01 TOOL IN THE HAND OF GOD, YOU HAVE GOT TO GROW. 35:04 AND THE LORD WILL SEND YOU STUFF TO MAKE YOU GROW. 35:07 >> RIGHT. AND I'LL TELL YOU THIS, C.A. 35:10 OUR DAUGHTER -- LOSING OUR DAUGHTER, OUR FIRSTBORN IN THAT 35:14 ACCIDENT, THAT TOOK A LOT OUT OF US. 35:17 >> UH-HUH. >> IT TOOK -- 17 YEARS, AND I 35:23 REMEMBER IT AS IT WAS YESTERDAY. THAT TOOK A LOT OUT OF US. 35:26 BUT GOD IS HEALING US. >> THAT KIND OF THING CAN BREAK 35:29 A MARRIAGE UP AS YOU WELL KNOW. >> YES. 35:33 TRAGEDY CAN DO THAT. >> WALK ME THROUGH SOME STUFF. 35:37 WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, THERE WAS A FELLOW WHO SET HIS EYES ON A 35:43 GIRL, AND SHE PLAYED THE PIANO, AND HAD LONG FLOWING HAIR, AND 35:48 HE DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS THE ONE THAT GOD WANTED FOR HIM. 35:51 SO HE INFORMED HER -- I'M GOING TO FAST AND PRAY FOR YOU. 35:56 HE SAID GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. 35:57 PRAY. AND HE WOULD COME TO THE 36:00 CAFETERIA, AND GET A GLASS OF ORANGE JUICE, BREAKFAST AND GET 36:04 ANOTHER GLASS AT LUNCH. AND HE WOULD SAY HAS THE LORD 36:07 SPOKEN TO YOU YET? AND SHE SAID NO. 36:12 AND AFTER A WEEK AND A HALF OF THAT, HE DECIDED MAYBE THAT 36:15 WASN'T THE ONE THAT GOD HAD FOR HIM. 36:18 AND SOMETIMES WE SET UP ARTIFICIAL STUFF. 36:22 HOW DID YOU SET YOUR EYES ON THE WOMAN WHO WAS GOING TO BECOME 36:26 YOUR WIFE. >> OKAY. 36:27 I KNEW MY WIFE. SHE ARRIVED ON THE CAMPUS OF 36:30 OAKWOOD, I WAS A JUNIOR. SHE WAS A FRESHMAN. 36:34 AND SHE WORKED IN THE STUDENT SERVICES OFFICE AT OAKWOOD, AND 36:38 I WAS A STUDENT GOVERNMENT LEADER, SO THERE WAS 36:41 INTERACTION, IF YOU WILL. >> UH-HUH. 36:44 >> BUT MY SENIOR YEAR, I SAW HER -- I WAS REFFING A 36:48 VOLLEYBALL GAME IN THE GYM. AND SHE WAS PLAYING VOLLEYBALL. 36:52 I REMEMBER WHAT SHE HAD ON TO THIS DAY. 36:55 I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU, BECAUSE SHE WILL FILL ME, 36:57 BECAUSE SHE'S WATCHING. I LOOKED AT HER, AND I 37:01 KNEW -- C.A. I KNEW THIS WAS THE ONE. 37:06 AND IT WAS -- BACK THEN OAKWOOD WAS ON THE QUARTER SYSTEM. 37:10 IT WAS MY FINAL QUARTER AT OAKWOOD, AND I KNEW -- 37:14 >> YOU HAD TO CLOSE THE DEAL. >> OH, YEAH. 37:18 I KNEW. AND GRADUATED WENT TO PASTOR, 37:21 STAYED IN CONTACT, AND HAD TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT IT, 37:25 BECAUSE NO INTERNET, AND NO CELL PHONES -- 37:27 >> AND SHE WAS A FRESHMAN. >> AT THIS TIME SHE WAS A 37:31 SOPHOMORE. >> BUT STILL, YOU ARE OUT OF 37:33 SCHOOL. >> RIGHT. 37:33 SO I WENT TO ANDREWS, AND SHE WAS A JUNIOR. 37:37 WE KEPT THAT THING STRONG AND TIGHT. 37:42 NEXT YEAR AT ANDREWS, SHE WAS A SENIOR. 37:46 KEPT IT STRONG AND TIGHT. AFTER I FINISHED ANDREWS, I 37:51 POPPED THE QUESTION, SHE GRACIOUSLY SAID YES, AND PLEASED 37:55 HER BROTHER, YOU KNOW. AND WE GOT MARRIED. 37:58 SHE TOO IS A PK. SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS 38:02 ABOUT MINISTRY THAT SHE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS. 38:04 SHE HAS BEEN RIGHT THERE IN THE TRENCHES WITH ME. 38:07 I COULDN'T HAVE ASKED THE LORD FOR A BETTER WIFE. 38:11 IN DECEMBER IT WILL BE 19 YEARS. AND SHE IS MY NUMBER 1 FAN. 38:19 WORKS WITH ME WITH BREATH OF LIFE. 38:21 EVEN BEFORE BREATH OF LIFE, SHE WORKED WITH ME. 38:23 OUR CHILDREN -- WE HAVE A 15 YEAR OLD, A 13 YEAR OLD -- 38:27 >> OH, BOY. >> AND A 2 YEAR OLD. 38:30 >> BLESS YOUR HEART. >> AND OUR DAUGHTERS ARE RIGHT 38:34 THERE WITH ME. THEY WILL TELL ME NOT JUST WHAT 38:38 I WANT TO HEAR, BUT THEY WILL TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO HEAR. 38:42 AS PASSIONATE AS I AM ABOUT SOUL WINNING, THEY ARE TOO. 38:47 >> PRAISE GOD. I WANT YOU TO WALK US THROUGH 38:49 THE LOSS, BUT I WANT TO DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK BEFORE WE DO 38:55 THAT. FREE OFFER FOR THE EVENING IS 39:00 "THE BIBLE TEXTIONARY." THIS IS QUITE A MOUTHFUL, "THE 39:02 BIBLE TEXTIONARY." 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AGAIN, 618-627-4651, OR EMAIL US 40:36 LIVE@3ABN.TV. AND WE WILL TAKE A LOOK AT SOME 40:39 OF THOSE IN THE SECOND HALF. TRAUMATIC PORTION OF YOUR LIFE, 40:44 TRAUMATIC TIME, AND AS I SAID DEPENDING ON HOW COUPLES WRESTLE 40:48 WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF, IT CAN DRAW THEM CLOSER TO EACH OTHER 40:52 AND TO GOD. IT CAN RIP THEM APART. 40:54 >> YES. >> WALK US THROUGH THAT TIME AND 40:58 HOW YOU AND YOUR WIFE AND THE LORD DEALT WITH THAT TRAGEDY. 41:02 >> THE YEAR WAS 1999, WE WERE LIVING IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE 41:06 AT THE TIME. MY WIFE AND I WERE GOING TO GO 41:10 TO TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA WHERE I FORMALLY PASTORED. 41:14 AND I WAS TO PREACH FOR A CHURCH ANNIVERSARY SABBATH. 41:18 AND WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT GOING, BECAUSE ACTUALLY WHEN WE LEFT 41:24 TUSCALOOSA, MY WIFE WAS PREGNANT. 41:25 SO THE MEMBERS THERE ALWAYS FELT THAT WAS THEIR BABY. 41:29 THIS WOULD BE THEIR FIRST TIME SEEING HER. 41:32 SHE WAS ONLY 4.5-MONTH-OLD. AND MY CAR HAD BEEN GIVING ME 41:37 TROUBLE ALL THAT WEEK. BUT TRYING TO SAVE MONEY, YOU 41:41 KNOW. >> OH, YES. 41:42 >> FIXED INCOME. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK. 41:46 SO WE GET UP SABBATH MORNING AND WE'RE DRIVING FROM NORTH 41:51 NASHVILLE TO SOUTH NASHVILLE, AND ON OUR WAY, THE CAR IS JUST 41:56 GIVING TROUBLE. AND I'M LIKE, I CAN'T DO THIS. 41:59 SO I CALLED THE HELD ELDER OF OUR CHURCH, AND I SAID, LISTEN, 42:04 CAN WE SWAP VEHICLES? I'LL TAKE YOUR SUV, AND YOU TAKE 42:08 MY CAR SINCE YOU WILL BE LOCAL. HE SAID NO PROBLEM COME BY THE 42:13 HOUSE. SO WE WENT TO HIS HOME AND 42:16 SWAPPED OUT ALL OF OUR THINGS, CAR SEAT FOR THE BABY, LUGGAGE, 42:20 EVERYTHING. AND WE WERE ON OUR WAY. 42:23 20 MILES FROM TUSCALOOSA, WE WERE IN A HORRIFIC ACCIDENT THAT 42:28 CHANGED OUR LIVES FOREVER. >> UH-HUH. 42:29 >> AND THE CAR, THE SUV WAS FLIPPED, FLIP, FLIP, THE AXLE 42:37 BROKE. WE WERE ALL UNCONSCIOUS. 42:40 I WOKE UP IN THE MEDIAN OF THE HIGHWAY, THERE MY WIFE WAS 42:47 CRYING, AND OUR FOUR AND A HALF-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER WAS 42:50 LAYING IN THE MEDIAN. AND I LOOKED UP AND A LADY CAME 42:53 TO ME, AND SHE WAS LIKE DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS, AND I SAID 42:57 YES, YES, YES. AND I SAW THAT MY WIFE WAS 43:01 SCREAMING. IT WAS KIND OF A GOOD SIGN, 43:04 BECAUSE SHE WAS ALIVE. >> YES. 43:07 >> OUR BABY GIRL WAS LYING STILL. 43:11 BUT SHE MADE A LITTLE MOVEMENT. I SAID OKAY. 43:13 SHE IS GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT. THEY TOOK MY WIFE AND I TO A 43:17 HOSPITAL IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA AND THEY TOOK OUR DAUGHTER TO 43:23 THE BIRMINGHAM CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL. 43:24 OF THE THREE, I HAD THE LEAST AMOUNT OF INJURIES. 43:28 MY WIFE WAS NOT IN THE BEST SHAPE AT ALL. 43:30 AND WE WERE AT THE HOSPITAL TOGETHER. 43:32 SHE SAID GO SEE ABOUT THE BABY. WENT TO SEE ABOUT THE BABY, WHEN 43:36 I GOT THERE TO THE HOSPITAL, SHE WAS ON LIFE SUPPORT, AND SHE WAS 43:41 IN BAD CONDITION. >> UH-HUH. 43:43 >> AND SHE WAS NOT RESPONDING. AND SO THAT WAS VERY, VERY 43:46 TRAUMATIC FOR ME. AND WHEN I TOLD MY WIFE, FOR 43:51 HER. BUT WE BEGAN TO PRAY. 43:54 >> THIS WAS SABBATH MORNING SON THE WAY TO CHURCH FOR AN 43:58 APPOINTMENT THAT YOU WERE NEVER ABLE TO FULFILL. 44:00 >> THAT'S RIGHT. SO WE CALLED OUR PARENTS. 44:03 OUR PARENTS CAME, OUR SIBLINGS CAME. 44:06 PASTORS CAME. I NEVER WILL FORGET MY CURRENT 44:12 CONFERENCE PRESIDENT, HE WAS PASTORING IN HUNTSVILLE, HE CAME 44:15 AND BEGAN TO PRAY FOR THE MOVE OF GOD. 44:19 AND YOU ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THE LORD CAN HEAL, YOU JUST HAVE TO 44:23 HAVE FAITH AND BELIEVE. SO WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO OTHERS, 44:26 I HAD TO APPLY NOW TO MYSELF. NO CHANGE. 44:31 26 DAY OF SEPTEMBER, NO CHANGE. 27TH OF SEPTEMBER CAME, AND THE 44:37 DOCTOR CAME IN -- THE ATTENDING PHYSICIAN AND THE PRESIDING 44:41 PHYSICIAN CAME IN, AND THEY SAID AT NOON ON THE 28TH WE'RE GOING 44:48 TO TAKE HER OFF LIFE SUPPORT. WE HAVE DONE ALL WE CAN DO. 44:51 >> UH-HUH. >> AND WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO 44:54 TAKE HER OFF LIFE SUPPORT, AND WE JUST NEED YOU TO KNOW THIS IS 44:59 WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. ACCORDING TO ALABAMA LAW WE CAN 45:02 DO THIS. WE BEGAN TO PRAY LIKE NEVER 45:06 BEFORE. WE CITED BIBLICAL EXAMPLES OF 45:09 HOW GOD INTERVENED. AND SO I BELIEVED, YOU KNOW, THE 45:13 LORD WAS GOING TO INTERVENE AND RAISE MY CHILD UP. 45:16 YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE WHO CAME WITH DOOM AND GLOOM, YOU ARE 45:21 YOUNG, YOU HAVE OTHER CHILDREN, ALL OF THAT OTHER KIND OF TALK, 45:23 WE WERE NOT DR. -- INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT. 45:28 BECAUSE WE WANTED THE ROOM TO BE A ROOM OF EXPECTANCY, 45:33 ANTICIPATION OF WHAT GOD WAS GOING TO DO. 45:35 GOD WAS GOING TO PERFORM A MIRACLE FOR US. 45:38 >> UH-HUH. >> WELL, AT 11:50 ON THE 28TH OF 45:43 SEPTEMBER, DOCTOR CAME IN AND TOOK US ALL IN TO WHERE OUR 45:47 DAUGHTER WAS, MY WIFE WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR AT THE TIME, SHE WAS 45:52 WHEELED IN. I WALKED IN. 45:54 MY FAMILY MEMBERS. PARENTS, IN-LAWS, SIBLINGS, WE 45:59 ALL WENT IN. AND I REQUESTED TO THE DOCTOR, I 46:02 SAID CAN I HOLD MY DAUGHTER? AND HE SAID SURE. 46:06 BECAUSE I JUST KNEW THAT AT 12:00 WHEN THEY REMOVED HER FROM 46:10 LIFE SUPPORT THAT SHE WAS GOING TO COUGH, COO, CRY, SOMETHING. 46:15 >> UH-HUH. >> 12:00 CAME, AND C.A. SHE DIED 46:20 IN MY ARMS. >> OH, WOW. 46:23 >> I NEVER WILL FORGET THAT. AND I MUST ADMIT, I WAS MAD AT 46:27 THE LORD. >> HUM. 46:29 >> I SAID, GOD, HERE IT IS THE SABBATH THAT WE WERE TRAVELING. 46:34 MY WIFE AND I NEVER HAD THAT WILDERNESS EXPERIENCE WHERE WE 46:37 LEFT -- YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOOD -- GOOD YOUNG PEOPLE. 46:41 >> YEAH. >> NEVER SMOKED. 46:43 WE HAD NEVER DRUNK. THAT WASN'T US. 46:46 WE WERE ON OUR WAY TO PREACH. HOW COULD YOU ALLOW THIS TO 46:51 HAPPEN? >> UH-HUH. 46:52 >> TO ME? BECAUSE I WAS ANGRY. 46:55 >> UH-HUH. >> AND THE TEXT SAYS YOU CAN BE 46:59 ANGRY, BUT SAY NOT. >> RIGHT. 47:02 GOD CAN TAKE IT. >> RIGHT. 47:04 RIGHT. SO WE LEFT THAT DAY, AND WE 47:06 TRAVELED BACK TO NASHVILLE, ABOUT 165-MILE RIDE. 47:10 >> UH-HUH. >> AND IT WAS A LONG RIDE. 47:14 >> UH-HUH. >> QUIET, YOU KNOW, YOU WALK 47:17 INTO YOUR HOUSE. YOU SEE THE BABY FURNITURE -- 47:20 >> THIS IS YOUR FIRSTBORN? >> RIGHT. 47:23 >> YEAH. >> AND JUST HORRIFIC. 47:25 I DON'T WANT TO PREACH. I DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ANYONE 47:30 TELL ME ABOUT GOD. BECAUSE HOW COULD GOD ALLOW THIS 47:33 TO HAPPEN TO ME. >> UH-HUH. 47:35 >> AND SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS WENT BY, AND ONE DAY I REMEMBER THE 47:40 CONFERENCE OFFICE WAS IN NASHVILLE. 47:42 I TRIED TO GO THERE ONE DAY. IT WAS PREMATURE, MY GOING. 47:46 WENT THROUGH, JUST BROKE DOWN, HAD TO GO BACK HOME. 47:50 BUT THERE WAS LIKE A WEEK LATER I -- I MADE IT TO THE CHURCH 47:54 WHERE I PASTORED. AND I WAS IN MY OFFICE, AND I 47:57 JUST OPENED UP THE BIBLE ON MY DESK. 48:01 AND THIS IS NOT A CLICHE OR EXAGGERATION OF TRUTH. 48:06 THIS IS TRUTH. I OPENED UP THE BIBLE AND 48:09 SOMETIMES YOU CAN OPEN UP THE BIBLE AND THE LORD WILL ALLOW 48:11 YOU TO OPEN UP THE BIBLE TO THE VERY TEXT YOU NEED RIGHT THERE. 48:15 >> THAT'S TRUE. >> AND I OPENED IT UP, AND IT 48:19 WAS 1 CORINTHIANS, 10:13. NO TEMPTATION HAS TAKEN YOU BUT 48:27 SUCH IS COMMON TO MAN. YOU WILL ABLE TO GO WITH THE 48:32 TEMPTATION, MAKE THE WAY OF ESCAPE, THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO 48:35 BARE IT. SO I SAID AM I GOING TO BECOME 48:40 BETTER OR BITTER? >> OR BITTER, SURE? 48:43 >> AND I DETERMINED THAT DAY TO BECOME BETTER. 48:45 AND WITH THAT, IT'S CLICHE, BUT IT'S TRUE, GOD HAS TAKEN OUR 48:52 VALLEY TURNED IT INTO VICTORY, PAIN INTO POWER, AND THE LORD 48:56 HAS BLESSED MY WIFE AND I, BLESSED OUR MINISTRY. 48:59 BLESSED OUR MARRIAGE, BLESSED US WITH THREE ADDITIONAL CHILDREN, 49:04 ALL GIRLS. NOT THAT THEY REPLACE OUR FIRST 49:07 BORN -- >> RIGHT. 49:08 >> -- BUT HE HAS BLESSED US -- THERE IS STILL A PART OF 49:12 ME THAT I FEEL IS GONE. MY WIFE AND I READ SELECTIVE 49:17 MESSAGES BY ELLEN WHITE BOOK 2, WHERE IT SAYS JUST BEFORE THE 49:23 COMING OF THE LORD GOD WILL HAVE TO LAY LITTLE ONES TO REST, BUT 49:27 IF WE'RE FAITHFUL AT THE COMING OF THE LORD, THE DEAD OF CHRIST 49:33 ARE GOING TO RISE FIRST, AND WE'LL MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR, 49:39 AND THEN GABRIEL WILL TAKE THOSE LITTLE ONES AND PLACE THEM IN 49:43 THE ARMS OF THEIR MOTHERS. >> SO MY WIFE AND I WE LOOK 49:47 FORWARD TO THAT DAY. THE LORD IS GOING TO TAKE OUR 49:50 FIRST BORN AND PLACE IT -- HER IN MY WIFE'S ARMS. 49:54 AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DAY. 49:59 SO PREACHING THE SECOND COMING HAS NEW MEANING FOR ME. 50:03 WHEN I PREACH THE STATE OF THE DEAD, NEW MEANING FOR ME. 50:08 THERE'S A CERTAIN PASSION AND RIGOR. 50:11 SO I WANT TO SEE JESUS AND MY LITTLE GIRL AGAIN. 50:16 >> LET ME ASK YOU ONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT. 50:21 WHAT DID THAT EXPERIENCE DO AS FAR AS COLORING YOUR MINISTRY, 50:26 AND GIVING YOU A GLIMPSE OF THE COLOR AND FIDELITY OF THE GOD 50:35 THAT YOU SERVE? >> GOD IS MERCIFUL. 50:38 HE NEVER PROMISES THERE WILL BE NO PAIN. 50:41 >> UH-HUH. >> BUT HE SAID HE WOULD BE 50:44 THERE. >> YES. 50:45 >> HE NEVER SAID WE WOULD LIVE A LIFE FREE FROM PAIN, BUT HE SAID 50:50 HE WOULD BE THERE. AND SO NOW, C.A. IT COMES 50:53 THROUGH IN MY PREACHING. I'M NOT JUST CALLING WORDS. 50:59 I'M NOT JUST PONTIFICATING. I BELIEVE IN THIS THING. 51:02 I BELIEVE IN GOD. I BELIEVE IN WHAT HIS WORDS SAY. 51:07 THAT'S MY HOPE. SO THAT AUTHENTICITY, AND TRAN 51:13 PARENTSY IN MY PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, IT IS THERE. 51:15 >> YEAH. >> SO I WOULD SAY THAT THAT KIND 51:18 OF HAS BEEN THE DIFFERENCE. PRETHIS CHALLENGE TO NOW POST 51:22 THOUGH CHALLENGE THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED IN MY LIFE. 51:25 >> YEAH, THAT KIND OF THING MAKES YOU REACH OUT AND GRAB 51:29 HOLD. HEBREWS 13, 5-6 SAYS WE CAN 51:36 BOLDLY SAY GOD IS OUR HELPER. I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. 51:39 GOD HELPS ME. I NEED THE HELP OF GOD. 51:42 >> THAT'S RIGHT. AND WHERE MY WIFE AND I ARE 51:46 PERSONALLY, WITH OUR KIDS. WE HAVE KEEN WHERE HE BROUGHT 51:50 US, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR MINISTRY, WE HAVE SEEN WHERE GOD 51:54 HAS BROUGHT US. GOD IS OUR REFUGE AND STRENGTH. 51:59 >> YES. UH-HUH. 52:01 >> I'M NOT JUST SAYING IT. I'M LIVING IT. 52:04 AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN -- I'M 44 YE 52:07 YEARS OLD. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE REST OF MY 52:10 LIFE IS GOING TO BE EXEMPT OF SUFFERING AND TRIUMPH, JUST 52:17 BECAUSE I ACCEPTED JESUS AS MY PERSONAL SAVIOR, DOES NOT MEAN 52:24 WE HAVE TAKEN UP AN INSURANCE POLICY THAT MAKES US FREE FROM 52:29 SUFFERING AND PAIN, BUT GOD HAS SAID HE WILL BE THERE. 52:33 >> PRAISE GOD. AGAIN, "THE BIBLE TEXTIONARY" IS 52:37 OUR FREE OFFER FOR THE EVENING, AND IF YOU CALL US 618-627-4651 52:44 OR FREEOFFER@3ABN.TV. NOW, AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH 52:50 IN ON ANYTHING WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT -- AND WE HAVE 52:53 SPENT THIS TIME TALKING ABOUT THE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF 52:58 PASTO PASTOR CARLTON BYRD. 53:04 BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY. GOD HAS SEASONED THIS MINISTRY 53:08 WITH THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIENCES THAT MAKE YOU STRONG IN THE 53:11 LORD. AND I THINK IT IS VERY, VERY 53:14 TRUE. 1 PETER 4-12, THINK IT NOT 53:18 STRAINED [ INAUDIBLE ] STRANGE THING HAS HAPPENED UNTO YOU, BUT 53:22 IT'S GOING TO COME. BUT, YOU KNOW, I GOT STUFF. 53:25 YOU GOT STUFF. ALL OF GOD'S CHILDREN GOT STUFF. 53:28 BUT ALONG WITH THAT STUFF, WE ALSO HAVE GOT JESUS. 53:32 >> YES. >> AND THAT'S WHAT THAT KIND OF 53:36 EXPERIENCE AFFIRMS FOR YOU. KEEP ON LIVING, YOUR STUFF IS 53:41 COMING, BUT WHEN THE STUFF HITS, CHRIST WILL BE WITH YOU. 53:47 NOW LAST THREE MINUTES OF THIS HALF, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU 53:51 ABOUT OAKWOOD. THEN WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO 53:54 EVANGELISM, I PROMISE YOU. >> OKAY. 53:57 >> I WOULDN'T MIND BEING STRONGER. 53:59 I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE YOUNGER. 54:02 >> OKAY. >> AND I SURELY AS THE LORD 54:06 LIVETH, I DON'T WANT TO BE 20 OR 25 AGAIN. 54:10 I LIKE BEING, YOU KNOW, WHAT I AM. 54:12 >> OKAY. >> I WISH I HAD THE STRENGTH OF 54:15 25. BUT TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT 54:16 ABOUT THE KINDS OF STUDENTS WE ARE SEEING IN COLLEGE. 54:20 AND THIS MAY LEAK OVER INTO OUR SECOND HOUR, THAT YOU ARE CALLED 54:24 TO DO, TO MINISTER TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE. 54:27 THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF OUR DAY. 54:29 TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SEEING AT OAKWOOD UNIVERSITY. 54:33 >> WELL, WE CAN FIRST TALK ABOUT PERSONS WHO DO HAVE A BACKGROUND 54:37 IN CHRISTIANITY, AND THEN THOSE WHO DON'T. 54:40 SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE WHO DO. 54:42 >> YES. >> YEARS AGO, THE PASTOR, COULD 54:46 GET UP, PREACH, TEACH, THIS IS WHAT THUS SAITH THE LORD. 54:54 AND THAT'S THE END OF IT. TODAY IT'S WHY. 54:57 AND THAT QUESTION FROM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE, SPECIFICALLY OUR 55:03 MILLENNIALS IS GETTING LOUDER. WHY? 55:05 YEARS AGO A PREACHER SAYS THIS IS WHO WE ARE. 55:08 THIS IS WHAT WE DO. THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS. 55:11 >> UH-HUH. >> WELL, WHY? 55:13 WHY DO WE DO WHAT WE DO? ARE YOU SURE THE BIBLE MEANT 55:17 THAT? SO I WOULD FIRST SAY INTERNALLY 55:20 FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE CHRISTIANS OR CLAIM TO BE OF 55:24 CHRISTIAN ROOTS, THERE -- THERE IS AN INQUISITIVE NATURE ABOUT 55:28 THEM. AND YOU GOT TO BE READY TO 55:30 ANSWER THAT. YOU CAN'T JUST BECAUSE, WELL, I 55:33 SAID SO. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SABBATH. 55:40 WELL, WHY? >> YEAH. 55:41 >> WE KEEP THE SABBATH HOLLY. WHAT DOES HOLLY MEAN? 55:46 >> OKAY. >> AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS 55:50 SABBATH IS SUNSET TO SUNSET. UH-HUH. 55:54 >> IN MY DAY WE WOULD NEVER QUESTION THAT. 55:57 IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT TODAY YOU HAVE THAT QUESTION 56:00 OF WHY. AND YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO 56:03 GIVE A LOGICAL ANSWER AS TO THE WHY. 56:05 >> UH-HUH. UH-HUH. 56:07 LET ME ADD THIS THEN, DO YOU SEE THIS AS LEGITIMATE INQUIRY, OF 56:13 AN INQUISITIVE MIND, OR A RECALCITRANCE, SOMEONE WHO IS 56:18 LOOKING FOR EXCUSES? IS IT LEGIT THIS KIND OF EXTRA 56:24 QUESTIONING, AND IF SO WHAT SHOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE? 56:26 >> I THINK IT'S A HYBRID OF BOTH. 56:30 I THINK FOR THE FORMER IT IS MORE THE FORMER THAT IT IS 56:36 LEGITIMATE. FOR THE LATTER, IT COULD BE A 56:40 QUESTION OF REBELLION, BUT I THINK MORE SO IT IS LEGIT. 56:49 AND I SEE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY. 56:51 IF YOU ANSWER IN A LOGICAL WAY, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MORE WILLING TO 56:56 GO TELL SOMEONE ELSE. AND IT KEEPS ME SHARP AND 56:59 STUDYING. >> YEAH. 57:00 >> I GOT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER -- THIS HAS GOT TO MAKE 57:04 SENSE. SO I WOULD DARE TO SAY A HYBRID, 57:07 BUT I THINK THE FORMER IS MORE SO THE CASE, AND THEY OUT OF A 57:12 GENUINE DESIRE, GENUINE CONCERN, WHY? 57:15 >> YEAH. YEAH. 57:16 AND EVEN IF IT IS COMING FROM A PERSON WHO JUST WANTS TO ARGUE 57:20 WITH YOU, YOU HAVE TO MINISTER TO THAT CHILD ALSO. 57:23 >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> ALL OF THEM DESERVE MINISTRY. 57:26 >> ALL OF THEM DESERVE MINISTRY. >> WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, 57:30 AND GET INTO EVANGELISM IN THE SECOND HALF. 57:35 THIS HAS BEEN A FUN FAST AND FURY HOUR FOR ME. 57:38 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK. WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A LITTLE 57:43 BIT. TWO MINUTES AND TWO SECONDS. 57:44 ♪ |
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