¤ I WANT TO SPEND
LIFE, MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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¤ I WANT TO SPEND
MY LIFE REMOVING PAIN ¤
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¤ LORD LET MY
WORD ¤ ¤ LET MY WORD ¤
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¤ HEAL UP HEARTS THAT HURT
¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ¤
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¤ MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤
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>> HELLO, AND WELCOME
YOU TO 3ABN TODAY LIVE.
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MY NAME IS C.A. MURRAY.
ALLOW ME ONCE AGAIN TO THANK YOU
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FOR SHARING JUST A LITTLE OF
YOUR NO-DOUBT BUSY DAY WITH US.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE,
PRAYERS, SUPPORT FOR 3ABN
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BROADCASTING NETWORK.
WE SAY THIS OFTEN, BUT WE
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REALIZE WE COULD NOT DO WHAT
WE ARE CALLED TO DO WITHOUT YOUR
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PARTNERSHIP, WITHOUT YOUR
PRAYERS AND YOUR FINANCIAL
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SUPPORT, SO WHEN
WE SAY THANK YOU.
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THESE WORDS COME FROM THE BOTTOM
OF THE HEART, BECAUSE IT HAS
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BEEN YOUR PRAYERS AND SUPPORT
FOR THESE PAST 30-PLUS YEARS
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THAT HAVE HELPED US TAKE THE GAS
PELL TO THE FURTHER ENDS OF THE
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EARTH. SO WHEN WE SAY THANK YOU.
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PLEASE KNOW THAT THANK YOU COMES
WITH THE LOVE AND RESPECT FOR
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THE PARTNERSHIP WE
HAVE HAD OVER THE YEARS.
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I'M EXCITED TONIGHT BECAUSE OF
OUR SUBJECT MATTER AND BECAUSE
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OF OUR GUEST, WHO IS ONE WHO
I HAVE FOLLOWED AND WHO I LIKE,
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AND WHO'S MINISTRY HAS BLESSED
NOT ONLY HIS LOCAL PARRISH, BUT
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THE WORLD, THAT IS DR. CARLTON
BYRD, DOCTOR, PASTOR, GOOD TO
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HAVE YOU HERE.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE.
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>> WE'RE GOING TO DISPENSE
WITH THE DOCTOR, IF YOU WILL.
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>> PLEASE. >> SO
WE'LL JUST BE CARLTON AND
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C.A. IF THAT'S
ALL RIGHT WITH YOU.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >> HE
IS THE PASTOR OF THE
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SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST
CHURCH OF OAKWOOD COLLEGE.
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AND ALSO THE SPEAKER,
DIRECTOR OF BREATH OF LIFE.
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AND IN BOTH
CAPACITIES DOING A FINE JOB.
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HE PREACHES HERE,
THERE, AND EVERYWHERE.
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WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
OAKWOOD UNIVERSITY AND HIS
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DUTIES THERE. THEN WE
WANT TO TRANSITION INTO
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WHAT HE IS DOING WITH BREATH OF
LIFE, AND SEGUE INTO EVANGELISM.
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BECAUSE HE HAS
EXPERTISE IN ALL OF THAT STUFF.
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YOU HAVE A LARGE AND
LOYAL FOLLOWING ON THIS NETWORK.
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AND YOU ARE ON MY
PROGRAM, PROCLAIM! ALSO.
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AND YOU DID MEETING IN BUFFALO,
NEW YORK, NOT THAT LONG AGO, AND
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MY SISTER ATTENDED THOSE
MEETINGS, AND SHE JUST FELL IN
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LOVE WITH PASTOR CARLTON BYRD.
EVERY NIGHT SHE WOULD GIVE ME
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THE REPORT OF THE MEETING, AND
SHE WOULD PRAISE YOU SO HIGHLY,
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I SAID YOU HAVE TO LIGHTEN UP A
LITTLE BIT, YOUR BROTHER HAS AN
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EGO TOO. [ LAUGHTER ]
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>> BUT SHE WAS IMPRESSED. I
THINK THE MEETINGS TURNED OUT
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VERY, VERY WELL. >> VERY GREAT.
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GOD BLESSED US. OVER
120 INDIVIDUALS GAVE THEIR
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LIVES TO THE LORD
AND WERE BAPTIZED.
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>> HOW LONG DID
THE MEETINGS LAST?
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>> THE PREACHING OF THE MEETINGS
WAS ACTUALLY THREE WEEKS.
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PRIOR TO THE PREACHING, OUR TEAM
THEY WERE IN BUFFALO FOR ABOUT
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FIVE WEEKS, KNOCKING ON DOORS,
SOLICITING BIBLE STUDIES, AND
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THEN THE PREACHING BEGAN
AFTER THAT FIVE-WEEK PERIOD.
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SO FIVE WEEKS
PREWORK AS WE CALL IT.
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>> YEAH. >> THREE
WEEKS ACTUAL PREACHING.
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AND THEN THE WORKERS STAYED
BEHIND ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO HELP
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GROUP THE PEOPLE. MY
WIFE, OUR KIDS, THEY WERE
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WITH US. WE HAD A GOOD TIME.
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>> IT'S IN THAT YOU COULD
DO IT IN THE SUMMER LIKE THAT.
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>> DURING THE SUMMER IT IS MY
DESIRE THAT EVERYWHERE I GO MY
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WIFE AND CHILDREN
ACCOMPANY US. >> EXCELLENT.
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I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE
PASTORING IN ATLANTA, YOU
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DISTINGUISHED YOURSELF OR THE
LORD WORKED THROUGH YOU -- WE
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GOT TO KEEP OUR PRIORITIES
STRAIGHT HERE -- IN THAT I THINK
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YOU WERE ONE OF THE HIGHEST
CHURCH PASTOR/EVANGELISTS IN
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THAT AREA FOR
THAT PARTICULAR YEAR.
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>> THAT IS CORRECT. GOD
BLESSED IN SUCH A MARVELOUS
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WAY IN ATLANTA, THAT OVER
1800 INDIVIDUALS WERE BAPTIZED.
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OUR CHURCH WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE
INNOVATIVE CHURCH OF THE YEAR,
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ALONG WITH BEING THE NUMBER ONE
SOUL WINNING CHURCH DURING THAT
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PERIOD. WE WERE
PROCLAIMED TO THE
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FASTEST GROWING SEVENTH-DAY
ADVENTIST CHURCH DURING THAT
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PERIOD. >> YOU
TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT
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IS DEAR TO MY HEART.
THERE MAY BE SOME PASTORS,
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MEMBERS, ELDERS, WHO
WANT TO DO EVANGELISM.
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WHAT DO YOU SEE THAT THE
LORD DID THROUGH YOU IN THAT
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PARTICULAR CHURCH.
SOMETHING THAT YIELDED RESULTS.
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WHAT WAS THAT? >>
NUMBER 1 I BELIEVE THAT WE
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HAVE TO GET BACK TO WHAT GOD HAS
CALLED US TO DO, AND THAT IS TO
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SHARE THE GAS PELL -- GOSPEL.
IF WE SEEK GOD FIRST AND HIS
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RIGHTEOUSNESS THEN ALL OF THESE
THINGS SHALL BE ADDED UNTO YOU,
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SO EVERYTHING WE DO
SHOULD CENTER AROUND EVANGELISM.
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I THINK THAT IS NUMBER 1.
AND WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL
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ABOUT THAT IN
ATLANTA. NUMBER 2, BE FAITHFUL.
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BE FAITHFUL. GOD
REWARDS FAITHFULNESS.
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EACH DAY I WAKE UP, AND I'M
EXCITED ABOUT TELLING SOMEBODY
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ABOUT JESUS. I'LL LAY
IN BED AT NIGHT, AND MY
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WIFE WILL SAY WHAT
ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT?
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AND I'LL SAY I'M THINKING ABOUT
HOW TO WIN MORE SOULS FOR THE
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KINGDOM. SO I'LL
BOUNCE IDEAS OFF OF HER.
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SHE'LL TELL ME WHAT SHE
THINKS, HONESTLY, TRANSPARENTLY.
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AND THAT'S WHO I AM.
LET'S DO WHAT GOD CALLED US TO
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DO AND THEN BE
FAITHFUL IN DO DOING IT.
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>> YOU WERE RUNNING
A MEETING EVERY YEAR.
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>> EVERY YEAR. ONE
MEETING WOULD BE A PUBLIC
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EVANGELISM CAMPAIGN, ANOTHER
COULD BE A PROPHETSY SEMINAR
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CLASS, AND THEN MORE OF A
REAPING MEETING IF YOU WILL.
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VERY INTENNING SHUNNAL ABOUT IT.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT WAS JUST
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ME ME ME ME ME, THE MEMBERS
WERE VERY, VERY SUPPORTIVE.
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IT HAS A GREAT
LEGACY OF PASTORS.
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TWO IN PARTICULAR,
ELDER HL CLEVELAND.
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HE WAS VERY
EVANGELISTICALLY FOCUSED.
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ALSO MY PREDECESSOR WITH BREATH
OF LIFE, AGAIN, EVANGELISM,
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EVANGELISM, SO IN THE DNA OF THE
PEOPLE, THE LEGACY OF PASTORS
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THERE, THEY WERE
REALLY INTO EVANGELISM.
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DURING OUR TIME THERE, IT
WAS REALLY, REALLY PROFITABLE IN
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TERMS OF
EVANGELISM, AND THE NUMBERS.
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>> YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO STRONG ARM
YOUR PEOPLE, THEY WERE SET IN
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THAT MIND SET WHEN YOU GOT
THERE, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF
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GIVING THEM A FOCUS ON
WHAT TO DO, AND THEY DID IT.
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>> CORRECT.
WHEN I ARRIVED THERE.
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I WAS KIND OF UNPRECEDENTED IN
MY AGE, BUT A LOT OF THE SENIOR
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ADULT MEMBERS WOULD ALWAYS
SAY YOU REMIND US OF -- AND
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THEREFORE, I CAME WITH CREATIVE
AND INNOVATIVE IDEAS, IF YOU
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WILL. THERE WAS A
STRONG APPRECIATION
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FOR THE EVANGELISTIC FOCUS.
WITH THAT, THEY REALLY BOUGHT
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IN -- BECAUSE MANY OF THEM
THEMSELVES, THAT'S HOW THEY WERE
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ONCE THROUGH THIS
WONDERFUL MESSAGE.
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SO IT WORKS OUT WELL. >>
LET ME GIVE YOU YOUR FLOWERS
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WHILE YOU CAN STILL SMELL THEM.
BECAUSE YOU PRACTICE WHAT YOU
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PREACH. AND EVEN
THOUGH YOU ARE A PASTOR
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ON A UNIVERSITY CAMPUS, AND
CARRY OTHER HATS, YOU STILL MAKE
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TIME FOR EVANGELISM IN
YOUR SCHEDULE EVEN NOW.
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>> YES, AND I WOULD DARE TO SAY,
MY MEMBERS, WHILE WE ARE ON A
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CAMPUS, WHILE WE ARE AN
INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH, THEY TOO
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HAVE BEEN THERE FOR FOUR AND
A HALF YEARS NOW, AND THEY HAVE
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BOUGHT INTO AND
SUPPORTED PUBLIC EVANGELISM.
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IT IS RARE THAT ON AN
EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS THAT YOU
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ENGAGE IN A PUBLIC EVANGELISTIC
CAMPAIGN ON A SYSTEMATIC BASIS.
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BUT EVEN AT OAKWOOD, MINIMALLY
ONCE A YEAR, WE ENGAGE IN A FULL
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THRUST EVANGELISTIC CAMPAIGN.
IT'S NOT ONLY BENEFICIAL FOR THE
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CHURCH MEMBERSHIP, IT'S NOT ONLY
FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS
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IN HUNTSVILLE, BUT IT IS ALSO
VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE STUDENTS
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TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHAT
WE AS A CHURCH ARE ALL ABOUT.
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THAT OUR THEOLOGY MAYORS,
AND ALL OF OUR STUDENTS THERE,
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UNDERSTAND THAT EVANGELISM
IS THE LIFE BLOOD OF THE CHURCH.
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THE MODEL AT OAKWOOD AS YOU
KNOW, ENTER TO LEARN, DEPART TO
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SERVE. PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS
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WHO WE ARE, SO WHEN THEY FINISH
AT OAKWOOD, THEY UNDERSTAND WHEN
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THEY GO BACK TO THEIR HOME
CHURCH THAT EVANGELISM IS PART
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OF WHO WE ARE. AND
I THINK THAT'S VERY
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IMPORTANT THAT THEY BECOME
AMBASSADORS FOR EVANGELISM, FOR
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CHURCH GROWTH SO
THAT DOESN'T STOP.
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WE HAVE GOT TO KEEP IT GOING.
SO IT BENEFITS THE CHURCH.
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IT BENEFITS THE COMMUNITY, BUT
ALSO THE STUDENTS, BECAUSE THEY
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BECOME EVANGELISTS
IN THEIR OWN RIGHT.
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>> UH-HUH. NOW
THAT'S WHAT YOU DO FOR THE
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SCHOOL ON THE SCHOOL OR NEAR THE
SCHOOL, BUT ALSO IN THE SUMMER
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YOU TAKE OFF AND DO
EVANGELISM SOMEPLACE OFF.
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>> DEFINITELY. IN
ATLANTA -- IN HUNTSVILLE I DO
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THREE MEETINGS A YEAR.
ONLY ONE IN HUNTSVILLE, BUT TWO
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ARE ELSEWHERE. SO 2016
ALREADY, THREE MEETINGS
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HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED.
OUR FIRST WAS IN ORLANDO,
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FLORIDA, JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
AND IT WORKED OUT BECAUSE OF THE
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WEATHER. YOU CAN
RUN MEETINGS YEAR-ROUND
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IN FLORIDA. SO 100
PEOPLE MADE DECISIONS FOR
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BAPTISM. 50
PERSONS WERE BAPTIZED WITH
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ANOTHER 50 BEING FOLLOWED UP
WITH THE LOCAL PASTORS THERE.
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THEN MOVED ON TO HUNTSVILLE, AND
MOST RECENTLY WE WERE IN BOOK
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LISTEN, NEW YORK. AND
IN BROOKLYN, WE CONDUCTED A
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MEETING THERE, AND
WE WERE BLESSED AS WELL.
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SO OVER 200 INDIVIDUALS HAVE
GIVEN THEIR LIFE TO THE LORD
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THROUGH BAPTISM. AND WE
THANK THE LORD FOR THAT.
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EVEN THOUGH IN ATLANTA THERE WAS
THREE MEETINGS IN ONE CHURCH,
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WE'RE STILL DOING THREE
MEETINGS, JUST NOT IN ONE
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LOCATION. >> PRAISE GOD.
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PRAISE GOD. ISN'T
THAT KIND OF SUCCESS OR
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REGIMEN ADDICTIVE? >>
OH, MAN, YOU KNOW THAT.
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YOU KNOW THAT. WHEN
YOU SEE INDIVIDUALS COMING
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DOWN -- >> YEAH.
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>> -- TO GIVE THEIR LIFE TO THE
LORD THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT
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THAT, YOU GET A RUSH. AND
YOU BEGIN TO SAY WE HAVE TO
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KEEP DOING THIS. E
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EVAN  -- EVANGELISTS WILL
MAKE AN APPEAL COME ON DOWN.
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>> ABSOLUTELY. >> MANY
BUFFALO, WE GOT DOWN TO
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THE END OF THE REVIVAL, AND
FRIDAY NIGHT I WAS PREACHING ON
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THE TRUE CHURCH AND I WAS
PREACHING UP THERE AND ENJOYING
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IT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU PREACH.
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>> OH, VERY MUCH SO. >>
AND WE WERE IN A 1200 SEAT
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AUDITORIUM. AND
PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 300
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PEOPLE IN THE AUDITORIUM,
SO WE'RE MAKING THIS APPEAL.
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AND I'M SAYING LORD, IT'S
1200 PEOPLE, ONLY 300 ARE HERE.
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HOW IS THIS GOING TO HAPPEN?
I NEVER WILL FORGET, C.A., MADE
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THAT APPEAL, AND IT APPEARED
THAT THE ENTIRE CONGREGATION
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CAME DOWN AND
RESPONDED TO THE APPEAL.
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I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN
MY LIFE WHERE OVER HALF OF THE
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PERSONS THERE RESPONDED
FOR BAPTISM, WHAT A WONDERFUL
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EXPERIENCE. AND,
AGAIN, WE HAD BEEN
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PREACHING THREE WEEKS, A
TOTAL OF EIGHT WEEKS, I SAID TO
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MYSELF, WE NEED TO GO ANOTHER
WEEK, BECAUSE YOU ARE JUST
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EXCITED BECAUSE IT'S CONTAGIOUS
WHEN PEOPLE GIVE THEIR LIFE TO
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THE LORD. AND THE
WONDERFUL THING ABOUT
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THAT IS THE PERSONS WHO RESPOND
THEY KNOW OTHER PEOPLE --
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>> YES. >> -- SO
ITT'S LIKE YOU WANT TO
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KEEP GOING AND GOING. BUT
ALL GOOD THINGS MUST COME TO
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AN END. OUR
DAUGHTERS NEEDED TO START
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SCHOOL THE NEXT
WEEK, SO WE HAD TO STOP.
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BUT IT IS VERY CONTAGIOUS
AND A GOOD CONTAGIOUS.
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>> YES. WE'RE
GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT
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THAT. IT IS
GETTING TOUGHER TO GAIN
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SOULS. I THINK MY
FIRST MEETING I RAN
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ON $3,000. AND WE BAPTIZED 57.
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SO IT HAS GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE
TO DO THAT KIND OF EVAN GALLY.
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AND IT'S A TOUGHER PLACE -- THE
WORLD IS A TOUGHER PLACE TO WORK
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IN, AND YET THE SPIRIT OF GOD
IS STILL MOVING IN OUR HEARTS.
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>> YES. >> I
WANT TO GET A LITTLE
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HISTORY ON YOU. BEFORE
WE GO INTO [ INAUDIBLE ]
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I WANTED TO GET WHERE YOU
CAME FROM, AND THAT WHOLE THING.
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>> OKAY. >> SO
LET'S GO TO OUR MUSIC JUST
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NOW. AND THEN
WE'LL COME BACK AND
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WEIGH INTO THE PERSONAL LIFE
OF OUR DEAR PASTER AND FRIEND.
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NEVILLE PETER IS GOING
TO BE SINGING "LET IT RAIN."
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¤ LET IT RAIN ¤ ¤ LET IT POUR ¤
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¤ I'M LONGING FOR YOUR PRESENCE
TO DELIVER AND RESTORE ¤
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¤ LET YOUR LIGHT WASH OVER ME
¤ ¤ FROM WHERE YOU FEAR IT IS, I
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AM FREE ¤ ¤
BLESS YOUR HOLLY NAME ¤
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¤ SO LET IT RAIN
¤ ¤ LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ OH, JESUS, SING
WITH ME ¤ ¤ LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ LET IT POUR ¤ I'M
LONGING FOR YOUR PRESENCE TO
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DELIVER AND RESTORE ¤ ¤
LET YOUR LIGHT WASH OVER ME ¤
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¤ FROM WHERE YOUR
SPIRIT IS, I AM FREE ¤
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¤ LET YOUR HOLLY
NAME, LORD, LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ LET IT RAIN ¤ ¤
RENEW MY HEART AGAIN ¤
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¤ I'M LONGING FOR YOUR HAND ¤
¤ QUENCH MY THIRSTY SOUL IN THIS
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DRY AND BAREN LAND ¤ ¤
NO MATTER HOW MUCH RAIN MUST
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FALL IN THESE DAYS ¤ ¤
AND I KNOW IT WILL CAUSE ME
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PAIN ¤ ¤ WHEN I
BLESS YOUR NAME ¤
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¤ BUT LET IT RAIN ¤
¤ LORD LET IT POUR ¤
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¤ I'M LONGING FOR YOUR PRESENCE
TO DELIVER AND RESTORE ¤
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¤ LORD YOUR LOVE WASH OVER ME
¤ ¤ FROM WHERE YOUR SPIRIT IS, I
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AM FREE, TO
BLESS YOUR HOLLY NAME ¤
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¤ LORD LET IT
RAIN ¤ ¤ LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ THE LIGHTER RAIN IT MUST FALL
IN THESE LAST AND EVIL DAYS ¤
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¤ AND I KNOW IT WILL CAUSE
ME PAIN WHEN I BLESS YOUR NAME,
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JESUS ¤ ¤ BUT LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ LORD LET IT RAIN
¤ ¤ LORD LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ LORD LET IT RAIN ¤ ¤
OH, EVEN IF IT CAUSES PAIN,
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EVEN IF IT CAUSES PAIN ¤ ¤
LORD IF IT CAUSES PAIN, LET IT
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RAIN ¤ ¤ OH, LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ IT MUST FALL IN
THESE LAST AND EVIL DAYS ¤
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¤ AND I KNOW IT
WILL CAUSE ME PAIN ¤
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¤ WHEN I BLESS YOUR NAME
¤ ¤ BUT LORD LET IT RAIN ¤
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¤ LORD LET IT RAIN ¤ ¤
LET IT RAIN DOWN IN MY LIFE ¤
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¤ LET IT RAIN DOWN IN
MY SOUL ¤ ¤ LET IT RAIN ¤
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>> AMEN, AND AMEN.
NEVILLE PETER, "LET IT RAIN."
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YOU ALWAYS KNOW SOMEBODY WHO
KNOWS SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS YOU,
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AND YOU ARE ALL RELATED BY FAITH
IF NOTHING ELSE, AND YOU START
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DIGGING UP STORIES FROM THE
PAST, BUT FROM THOSE WHO DON'T
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KNOW, WHERE ARE
YOU FROM ORIGINALLY.
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>> BATON ROUGE,
LOUISIANA. >> ADVENTIST HOME?
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>> YES. MY FATHER
WAS IN SEMINARY AT THE
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TIME I WAS BORN.
IN FACT I'M A TWIN.
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>> IS THAT SO? >> YES.
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AND SO HE WAS AT SEMINARY AT THE
TIME, SO MY MOTHER REQUESTED,
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SHE SAID LET'S HAVE THE KIDS
IN BATON ROUGE, WHERE SHE GETS
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SUPPORT. >> OH, YEAH.
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>> I WAS BORN IN BATON ROUGE.
AFTER A SHORT TIME THERE, WE ALL
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WENT BACK UP TO WHERE MY
FATHER WAS STUDYING IN MICHIGAN.
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BUT BECAUSE I'M A PK, A
PREACHER'S KID, YOU MOVE FROM
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PLACE TO PLACE TO PLACE,
BATON ROUGE, MICHIGAN, PONTIAC,
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MICHIGAN. SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS.
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ST. PETERSBURG, FLORIDA.
FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA,
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JACKSONVILLE FLORIDA. AND
MY OLDER BROTHER AND SISTER,
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WE WERE AT OAKWOOD.
AND THEN YOU BEGIN YOUR OWN
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TRACK. SO I REALLY
SAY FLORIDA IS WHERE
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I GREW UP. FORT
LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA IS
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WHERE MY FATHER PASTORED
THE CHURCH FOR NINE YEARS.
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THAT'S WHERE I GREW UP, MIDDLE
SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL THERE IN
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FLORIDA. >> WHAT
DOES YOUR BROTHER DO?
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>> HE IS IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA.
HE IS IN RETAIL MANAGEMENT
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THERE. HE IS THERE.
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MY SISTER, SHE IS IN FLORIDA,
LIVING WITH MY PARENTS THERE,
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WHICH IS A GOOD THING, AND SHE
WORKS FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND
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THE COUNTY THERE IN FLORIDA.
>> PK, BEING A PREACHER'S KID
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GUARANTEES
NOTHING. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES.
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SOME SAY THAT PREACHER'S KIDS
ARE THE WORST, I DON'T BELIEVE
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THAT. I THINK
THEY MAY HAVE TROUBLE
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LIVING UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS
WHICH MAY BE UNREALISTIC.
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FOR YOU DID YOU PLAY
IT STRAIGHT WITH THE LORD?
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HOW WAS IT IN YOUR GROWING UP
TIME IN THE HOUSE OF PASTOR AND
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BEING IN THE FISH BOWL THAT
A PASTOR'S CHILD AFFORDS YOU.
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>> PRETTY STRAIGHT. WE
WERE VERY ACTIVE, MY BROTHER,
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SISTER AND I WERE
VERY ACTIVE IN THE CHURCH.
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AND MY PARENTS WERE
VERY INTENTIONAL IN THAT.
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WE WOULD IN THE YOUTH
MINISTRIES, BASKETBALL TEAMS AT
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CHURCH, AND WHAT NOT. SO
CHURCH WAS A VERY INTEGRAL
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PART OF OUR
LIVES, AND WE ENJOYED IT.
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SO PRETTY STRAIGHT.
EVERY YEAR CAMP MEETING.
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>> OH, YES. >> SO WE ENJOYED IT.
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SO I WOULD DARE TO SAY THAT
THOSE FORMATIVE YEARS WERE VERY,
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VERY PROFITABLE FOR ME IN TERMS
OF MY LATER YEARS IN MINISTRY.
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MY FASTER WOULD ALWAYS TELL
ME, YOU ARE GOING TO BE A BETTER
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PASTOR THAN I, BECAUSE YOU WILL
KNOW WHAT TO DO AND WHAT NOT TO
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DO. SO VERY
INVOLVED YOUTH ELDER.
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AND TOOK AN INTEREST IN IT.
IT WASN'T THAT I WAS FORCED.
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I WANTED TO BE INVOLVED.
TOOK A GREAT INTEREST IN IT,
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PRIDE IN MY CHURCH.
AND THOSE THINGS WERE VERY
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HELPFUL FOR ME. >> HUH-UH.
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HE DID PASS THE GIFT ON TO YOU
AT AN EARLY AGE, HIM SAYING YOU
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ARE GOING TO BE BETTER THAN I?
WAS THAT WHEN YOU, FAIRLY YOUNG
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OR LATER ON? >>
I WAS FAIRLY YOUNG.
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HE KNEW. AND I
WOULD DARE TO SAY I KNEW
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THAT THE LORD PLACED
THIS CALLING ON MY LIFE.
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MY MOTHER CHURCH SCHOOL
TEACHER, PLAYS PE -- PIANO.
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MY GRANDPARENTS BOTH
STRONG IN THE CHURCH.
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MY FATHER'S
FATHER WAS A LAY PASTOR.
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PARENTS. >> SO
IT WAS ANT STRETCH.
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>> ALL OF MY AUNTS AND UNCLES
ON BOTH SIDES, ATTENDED OAKWOOD
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UNIVERSITY,
OAKWOOD COLLEGE BACK THEN.
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SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND PROBABLY
THE MAJORITY -- 95% OF THEIR
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CHILDREN, MY FIRST COUSINS,
WE ALL ATTENDED OAKWOOD.
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SO VERY DEEPLY
ROOTED WITHIN OUR CHURCH.
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WHICH IS A GOOD THING. >> SURE.
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SURE. SO THE
FOLLOW-UP FOR ME WOULD
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BE, IT IS ONE THING TO HAVE
A PROPHESIZED OVER YOU THAT YOU
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ARE GOING TO BE A PASTOR, IT
IS ANOTHER THING FOR YOU TO FEEL
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THAT WAY. WHEN
DID THE ONE ON ONE
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RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN JESUS AND YOU COME?
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WAS IT AN OVER TIME, DRAMATIC
THING, OR DID YOU JUST SETTLE
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INTO THE TRUTH? >>
OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
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WHEN I WAS AT OAKWOOD, I
MAJORED IN THEOLOGY AND BUSINESS
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MANAGEMENT WITH AN
EMPHASIS IN ACCOUNTING.
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SO I HAD A DUEL MAJOR.
I REMEMBER I WENT HOME TO
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FLORIDA, AND THERE WAS A PASTOR
THAT SAID IF YOU WANT TO GO INTO
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MINISTRY, RUN AS FAR AWAY FROM
IT AS YOU CAN, AND IF GOD CALLS
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YOU BACK, THEN YOU KNOW. >>
RUNNING AWAY FOR ME, WAS NOT
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RUNNING AWAY FROM THE WORLD, SO
WHEN I WAS AT OAKWOOD, MY FIRST
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TWO SUMMERS, I TOOK INTERNSHIPS
IN THE BUSINESS AREA.
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I WORKED ONE SUMMER AT
HARTFORD LIFE INSURANCE.
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I WAS AN
ACCOUNTING INTERN. LOVED IT.
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GOOD MONEY. GREAT EXPOSURE.
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BUT IT WASN'T ME. ONE
SUMMER I WORKED IN THE CITY,
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MIDLAND, MICHIGAN, DOW CORNING
CORPORATION, DOW CHEMICAL,
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ACCOUNTING INTERN. LOVED IT.
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GREAT MONEY. EXPOSED.
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WONDERFUL. BUT IT WASN'T ME.
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THE MINISTRY WAS WHO I WAS.
SO FOR ME THAT WAS MY -- WELL,
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LET ME TRY THIS.
GOOD GRADES IN SCHOOL, GOD
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BLESS.
EXPERIENCE, EXPOSURE, BUT THE
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LORD CALLED ME TO MINISTRY.
AND SO THAT THAT CALLING WAS ON
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MY LIFE, AND SO
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DO.
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AS I BEGAN TO PASTOR, POST
MY OAKWOOD YEARS, GOT HIRED, WAS
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SENT TO A CITY,
SO-SO, MISSISSIPPI.
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GREAT EXPERIENCE. IN
FACT I WANT TO SHARE ONE.
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I WAS IN SOSO,
MISSISSIPPI. SINGLE AT THE TIME.
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NOT MARRIED. DATING
MY WIFE, BUT NOT MARRIED.
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THE CHURCH HAD
TWO ACTIVE MEMBERS.
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>> AS IN ONE, TWO. >> TWO.
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[ LAUGHTER ] >>
BOTH OF THEM, LITERALLY.
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BOTH OF THEM WERE
OVER 65. >> OH, WOW.
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>> TWO ACTIVE MEMBERS, AND I
NEVER WILL FORGET MY PRESS SESZ
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OR IN THAT DISTRICT SAID
WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LET THE
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CHURCH DIE ON YOU.
WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T LET IT
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DIE ON YOU. AND TWO MEMBERS.
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I SAID WHAT CAN I DO? YOU
KNOW, THE CHURCH HAD LIMITED
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FUNDING. PRETTY
MUCH MY TITHE AND
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OFFERING WAS WHAT KEPT IT GOING.
THOSE MEMBERS WERE ON FIXED
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INCOMES. >> DID
YOU HAVE YOUR OWN
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BUILDING? >> WE
HAD OUR OWN BUILDING.
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I CUT THE GRASS.
PAINTED THE WALLS.
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PEOPLE THINK OH, YOU ARE
THOUSANDS -- I SAID YOU HAVE NO
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IDEA HOW IT ALL BEGAN. SO
-- AND THAT WAS DURING ANNER
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ARE, THE INTERNET
WAS NOT LIKE IT IS NOW.
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THAT WAS 22 YEARS AGO.
CELL PHONE ACCESS WAS NOT -- I
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WAS JUST WORKING. AND
I SAID I HAVE GOT TO DO
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SOMETHING EVANGELISTIC. AND
SO WHAT I DID, WAS I'M GOING
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TO RUN AND CONDUCT A
VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL.
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>> YEAH. >> AND SO
I WENT ON MY COMPUTER,
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GOT A LITTLE FLIER TOGETHER,
VACATION BIBLE SCHOOL, AND I SAW
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TWO LITTLE BOYS IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I SAID,
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LISTEN, I WILL BUY YOU A
McDONALD'S HAPPY MEAL IF YOU
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PASS ALL OF THESE FLIERS OUT.
BUT I MADE SURE THEY PASSED THEM
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OUT BEFORE I GAVE THEM
THE MONEY FOR THE HAPPY MEAL.
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THEY PASSED THE FLIERS OUT.
SUNDAY NIGHT WAS THE OPENING
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NIGHT. THAT FIRST
NIGHT, 53 CHILDREN
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CAME. >> OH, PRAISE THE LORD.
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>> SO I BEGAN TO
PLAY GAMES WITH THEM.
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AND I TOLD THE LADIES, IF
YOU ALL WOULD YOU JUST DO THE
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REFRESHMENT. THEY
WOULD TELL THEIR FRIENDS
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ABOUT IT. AND
REMEMBER, NOW, MYSELF AND
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THESE TWO LADIES. SO I
HAD TO MAKE SOME CALLS, AND
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SOLICIT SOME HELP FROM SOME OF
THE OTHER AREA CHURCHES IN OUR
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DISTRICT. SOME
PEOPLE CAME, AND AT
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SABBATH, ONLY ONE WEEK NOW, THAT
SABBATH, I SAID WE'RE GOING TO
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HAVE OUR BBS CLOSING PROGRAM AT
11:00 AM DURING MORNING WORSHIP.
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AND I SAID TO THE KIDS,
INVITE ALL OF YOUR PARENTS.
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THEY INVITED ALL
OF THEIR PARENTS.
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THEY SANG SONGS. AND
THAT WAS MY WAY IN NOW TO
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CONNECT WITH THE
PARENTS. GOD BLESSED.
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I THEN SAID LET'S
RUN A PUBLIC CAMPAIGN.
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AND THEY SAID WE DON'T HAVE
A MAGICIAN OR A BIBLE WORKER.
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I SAID WE'RE GOING TO
ASK THESE PARENTS TO COME.
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WELL, GOD BLESSED AND AFTER
THAT CAMPAIGN, WE BAPTIZED THREE
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PEOPLE. SO OUR
MEMBERSHIP WENT FROM 2 TO
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5. SO MORE THAN DOUBLED.
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I LEFT THERE, SENT
ME TO THE SEMINARY.
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AND THE PRESIDENT AT THE
TIME CALLED ME BACK FOR WORKERS
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MEETING IN JANUARY.
AND TYPICALLY YOU WOULD
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RECOGNIZE PASTORS IN THE
PRECEDING YEAR WHAT THEY HAD
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DONE. >> YES.
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>> SO IT GOT TIME FOR PASTOR
EVANGELISTS OF THE YEAR, SO I'M
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THINKING THEY ARE GOING TO
GIVE THIS AWARD TO SOMEONE ELSE.
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HE SAID OUR PASTOR EVANGELIST
FOR THE YEAR IS CLAY CLAY.
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BECAUSE PER CAPITA HE
RAISED HIS MEMBERSHIP BY 150%.
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SO THAT BECAME CONTAGIOUS.
THE LORD BLESSED AFTER I GOT A
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SEMINARIRY. IN
TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA THE LORD
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GAVE US 13 SOULS. WENT
TO NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE, IN
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THE FOUR AND A HALF YEARS I
WAS THERE, THE LORD GAVE US 300
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SOULS. IT WAS DURING MY TIME IN
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NASHVILLE, THAT MY WIFE AND
I -- WE WERE MARRIED WHEN I WAS
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IN TUSCALOOSA,
AND WENT TO NASHVILLE.
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IT WAS DURING THAT TIME WE
SHARED OUR TESTIMONY HERE ON
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3ABN, WHERE WE LOST OUR
FIRST DAUGHTER IN A TRAGIC CAR
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ACCIDENT. BUT IN
NASHVILLE, IN BAPTIZING
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THE PEOPLE THERE, I BEGAN TO
REALIZE THAT MY INSTITUTIONAL
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SEVENTH SEVENTH
DAYED A  -- DAYED A
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VENNTISM COULDN'T SAVE ME.
AND WHEN I WENT TO THAT CITY AND
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KNOCKED ON DOORS, SOLICITING
BIBLE STUDY, AND THE LORD BEGAN
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TO PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE
THAT DID NOT LOOK LIKE ME, OR
00:32:46.63\00:32:51.43
SMELL LIKE ME, BUT THEY WERE
STILL GOD'S CHILDREN, IT CHANGED
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ME. IT CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE ON
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LIFE AND PEOPLE. I
HAD THE FERVOR BEFORE, BUT
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THAT WENT UP EXPONENTIALLY
TO SHARE THE GOSPEL.
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IT WAS A NEW CHURCH
PLANT. BUILT A CHURCH THERE.
00:33:08.35\00:33:12.59
FROM THERE WENT TO HOUSTON,
IN THE 3.5 YEARS 500 PEOPLE
00:33:12.59\00:33:17.86
BAPTIZED. >> PRAISE GOD.
00:33:17.86\00:33:19.03
>> TO ATLANTA,
1800 PEOPLE BAPTIZED.
00:33:19.03\00:33:22.20
GOT TO HUNTSVILLE, BEEN THERE
4.5 YEARS, 400 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
00:33:22.20\00:33:29.04
BAPTIZED. THE LORD HAS GROWN ME.
00:33:29.04\00:33:30.71
AND MY PRAYERS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
SAVE ME BY THE SAME GOSPEL I
00:33:30.71\00:33:35.98
SEEK TO SHARE WITH OTHERS.
NOT ONLY DO YOU SEE OTHER PEOPLE
00:33:35.98\00:33:43.35
SAVED BUT YOU SEE ME
SAVED. AND I PRAISE GOD.
00:33:43.35\00:33:46.86
>> PRAISE GOD. I THINK
I HEAR YOU SAYING -- ARE
00:33:46.86\00:33:49.72
YOU SAYING THAT WHEN YOU CAME
INTO THE MINISTRY, YOU WERE NOT
00:33:49.72\00:33:54.93
CONVERTED? OR
YOU WERE NOT A -- A
00:33:54.93\00:33:57.53
PERFECTED, OR MATURE PERSON?
THERE WAS STILL SOME OF YOU IN
00:33:57.53\00:34:02.40
THERE THAT THE LORD
HAD TO SAND OUT OVER TIME.
00:34:02.40\00:34:05.47
BECAUSE A LOT OF
US COME IN LIKE THAT.
00:34:05.47\00:34:07.64
>> I WANT TO
SAY I WAS CONVERTED.
00:34:07.64\00:34:10.08
I HAVE NEVER DRUNK IN MY
LIFE OR SMOKED, SO, YOU KNOW.
00:34:10.08\00:34:14.15
BUT HE -- HE HAS GROWN ME.
AND HE IS STILL GROWING ME.
00:34:14.15\00:34:18.55
I TELL MY MEMBERS AT OAKWOOD ALL
THE TIME, I'M NOT THE PERSON I
00:34:18.55\00:34:23.12
WAS 4.5 YEARS AGO.
AND THAT'S SANCTIFICATION.
00:34:23.12\00:34:28.43
SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT
FORMERLY BOTHERED ME, DON'T
00:34:28.43\00:34:33.34
BROTHER ME ANYMORE.
LIFE IS TOO SHORT, DEATH TOO
00:34:33.34\00:34:36.77
SHORT, AND HELL TOO HOT FOR US
TO BE PLAYING CHURCH, YOU KNOW?
00:34:36.77\00:34:40.68
I LOVE THE LORD, AND I WANT
TO SHARE GOD'S LOVE WITH AS MANY
00:34:40.68\00:34:45.15
PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, AND HE
IS CONTINUALLY GROWING ME AND
00:34:45.15\00:34:49.32
PERFECTING ME AND PRUNING ME AND
ARRANGING ME, AND I THANK GOD
00:34:49.32\00:34:54.19
FOR THAT. >> YEAH.
00:34:54.19\00:34:56.02
YEAH. I SUSPECT
THAT THAT PROCESS IS
00:34:56.02\00:34:57.96
NECESSARY NOT ONLY TO MINISTER,
BUT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO BE A
00:34:57.96\00:35:01.43
TOOL IN THE HAND OF
GOD, YOU HAVE GOT TO GROW.
00:35:01.43\00:35:04.53
AND THE LORD WILL SEND
YOU STUFF TO MAKE YOU GROW.
00:35:04.53\00:35:07.00
>> RIGHT. AND I'LL
TELL YOU THIS, C.A.
00:35:07.00\00:35:10.84
OUR DAUGHTER -- LOSING OUR
DAUGHTER, OUR FIRSTBORN IN THAT
00:35:10.84\00:35:14.64
ACCIDENT, THAT
TOOK A LOT OUT OF US.
00:35:14.64\00:35:17.51
>> UH-HUH. >> IT
TOOK -- 17 YEARS, AND I
00:35:17.51\00:35:23.32
REMEMBER IT AS IT WAS YESTERDAY.
THAT TOOK A LOT OUT OF US.
00:35:23.32\00:35:26.72
BUT GOD IS HEALING US. >>
THAT KIND OF THING CAN BREAK
00:35:26.72\00:35:29.72
A MARRIAGE UP AS
YOU WELL KNOW. >> YES.
00:35:29.72\00:35:33.80
TRAGEDY CAN DO THAT. >>
WALK ME THROUGH SOME STUFF.
00:35:33.80\00:35:37.73
WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, THERE WAS
A FELLOW WHO SET HIS EYES ON A
00:35:37.73\00:35:43.41
GIRL, AND SHE PLAYED THE PIANO,
AND HAD LONG FLOWING HAIR, AND
00:35:43.41\00:35:48.18
HE DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS
THE ONE THAT GOD WANTED FOR HIM.
00:35:48.18\00:35:51.55
SO HE INFORMED HER -- I'M
GOING TO FAST AND PRAY FOR YOU.
00:35:51.55\00:35:56.05
HE SAID GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD.
00:35:56.05\00:35:57.92
PRAY. AND HE WOULD COME TO THE
00:35:57.92\00:36:00.56
CAFETERIA, AND GET A GLASS OF
ORANGE JUICE, BREAKFAST AND GET
00:36:00.56\00:36:04.19
ANOTHER GLASS AT LUNCH.
AND HE WOULD SAY HAS THE LORD
00:36:04.19\00:36:07.83
SPOKEN TO YOU
YET? AND SHE SAID NO.
00:36:07.83\00:36:12.50
AND AFTER A WEEK AND A HALF
OF THAT, HE DECIDED MAYBE THAT
00:36:12.50\00:36:15.60
WASN'T THE ONE
THAT GOD HAD FOR HIM.
00:36:15.60\00:36:18.87
AND SOMETIMES WE
SET UP ARTIFICIAL STUFF.
00:36:18.87\00:36:22.48
HOW DID YOU SET YOUR EYES ON THE
WOMAN WHO WAS GOING TO BECOME
00:36:22.48\00:36:26.08
YOUR WIFE. >> OKAY.
00:36:26.08\00:36:27.55
I KNEW MY WIFE. SHE
ARRIVED ON THE CAMPUS OF
00:36:27.55\00:36:30.92
OAKWOOD, I WAS A
JUNIOR. SHE WAS A FRESHMAN.
00:36:30.92\00:36:34.56
AND SHE WORKED IN THE STUDENT
SERVICES OFFICE AT OAKWOOD, AND
00:36:34.56\00:36:38.26
I WAS A STUDENT
GOVERNMENT LEADER, SO THERE WAS
00:36:38.26\00:36:41.30
INTERACTION, IF
YOU WILL. >> UH-HUH.
00:36:41.30\00:36:44.83
>> BUT MY SENIOR YEAR, I
SAW HER -- I WAS REFFING A
00:36:44.83\00:36:48.74
VOLLEYBALL GAME IN THE GYM.
AND SHE WAS PLAYING VOLLEYBALL.
00:36:48.74\00:36:52.37
I REMEMBER WHAT
SHE HAD ON TO THIS DAY.
00:36:52.37\00:36:55.04
I'M NOT GOING TO TELL
YOU, BECAUSE SHE WILL FILL ME,
00:36:55.04\00:36:57.81
BECAUSE SHE'S
WATCHING. I LOOKED AT HER, AND I
00:36:57.81\00:37:01.42
KNEW -- C.A. I
KNEW THIS WAS THE ONE.
00:37:01.42\00:37:06.15
AND IT WAS -- BACK THEN OAKWOOD
WAS ON THE QUARTER SYSTEM.
00:37:06.15\00:37:10.79
IT WAS MY FINAL QUARTER
AT OAKWOOD, AND I KNEW --
00:37:10.79\00:37:14.13
>> YOU HAD TO CLOSE
THE DEAL. >> OH, YEAH.
00:37:14.13\00:37:18.17
I KNEW. AND
GRADUATED WENT TO PASTOR,
00:37:18.17\00:37:21.44
STAYED IN CONTACT, AND HAD
TO BE VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT IT,
00:37:21.44\00:37:25.47
BECAUSE NO INTERNET,
AND NO CELL PHONES --
00:37:25.47\00:37:27.31
>> AND SHE WAS A FRESHMAN.
>> AT THIS TIME SHE WAS A
00:37:27.31\00:37:31.21
SOPHOMORE. >> BUT
STILL, YOU ARE OUT OF
00:37:31.21\00:37:33.42
SCHOOL. >> RIGHT.
00:37:33.42\00:37:33.92
SO I WENT TO
ANDREWS, AND SHE WAS A JUNIOR.
00:37:33.92\00:37:37.75
WE KEPT THAT
THING STRONG AND TIGHT.
00:37:37.75\00:37:42.22
NEXT YEAR AT
ANDREWS, SHE WAS A SENIOR.
00:37:42.22\00:37:46.66
KEPT IT STRONG AND TIGHT.
AFTER I FINISHED ANDREWS, I
00:37:46.66\00:37:51.43
POPPED THE QUESTION, SHE
GRACIOUSLY SAID YES, AND PLEASED
00:37:51.43\00:37:55.07
HER BROTHER, YOU
KNOW. AND WE GOT MARRIED.
00:37:55.07\00:37:58.44
SHE TOO IS A PK. SO
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS
00:37:58.44\00:38:02.21
ABOUT MINISTRY THAT
SHE CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS.
00:38:02.21\00:38:04.41
SHE HAS BEEN RIGHT
THERE IN THE TRENCHES WITH ME.
00:38:04.41\00:38:07.62
I COULDN'T HAVE ASKED
THE LORD FOR A BETTER WIFE.
00:38:07.62\00:38:11.35
IN DECEMBER IT WILL BE 19 YEARS.
AND SHE IS MY NUMBER 1 FAN.
00:38:11.35\00:38:19.06
WORKS WITH ME
WITH BREATH OF LIFE.
00:38:19.06\00:38:21.06
EVEN BEFORE BREATH OF
LIFE, SHE WORKED WITH ME.
00:38:21.06\00:38:23.33
OUR CHILDREN -- WE HAVE A
15 YEAR OLD, A 13 YEAR OLD --
00:38:23.33\00:38:27.70
>> OH, BOY. >> AND A 2 YEAR OLD.
00:38:27.70\00:38:30.74
>> BLESS YOUR HEART. >>
AND OUR DAUGHTERS ARE RIGHT
00:38:30.74\00:38:34.78
THERE WITH ME. THEY
WILL TELL ME NOT JUST WHAT
00:38:34.78\00:38:38.11
I WANT TO HEAR, BUT THEY WILL
TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO HEAR.
00:38:38.11\00:38:42.18
AS PASSIONATE AS I AM ABOUT
SOUL WINNING, THEY ARE TOO.
00:38:42.18\00:38:47.42
>> PRAISE GOD. I WANT
YOU TO WALK US THROUGH
00:38:47.42\00:38:49.89
THE LOSS, BUT I WANT TO DO
A LITTLE HOMEWORK BEFORE WE DO
00:38:49.89\00:38:55.03
THAT. FREE OFFER
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00:39:02.90\00:39:05.77
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RETURN, DEATH, DYING, ETERNAL
00:39:05.77\00:39:10.98
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00:39:10.98\00:39:17.85
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00:39:17.85\00:39:23.19
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00:39:31.20\00:39:34.40
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00:40:39.03\00:40:44.64
TRAUMATIC TIME, AND AS I SAID
DEPENDING ON HOW COUPLES WRESTLE
00:40:44.64\00:40:48.84
WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF, IT CAN
DRAW THEM CLOSER TO EACH OTHER
00:40:48.84\00:40:52.15
AND TO GOD. IT
CAN RIP THEM APART.
00:40:52.15\00:40:54.65
>> YES. >> WALK US
THROUGH THAT TIME AND
00:40:54.65\00:40:58.05
HOW YOU AND YOUR WIFE AND THE
LORD DEALT WITH THAT TRAGEDY.
00:40:58.05\00:41:02.12
>> THE YEAR WAS 1999, WE WERE
LIVING IN NASHVILLE, TENNESSEE
00:41:02.12\00:41:06.70
AT THE TIME. MY WIFE
AND I WERE GOING TO GO
00:41:06.70\00:41:10.07
TO TUSCALOOSA, ALABAMA
WHERE I FORMALLY PASTORED.
00:41:10.07\00:41:14.04
AND I WAS TO PREACH FOR A
CHURCH ANNIVERSARY SABBATH.
00:41:14.04\00:41:18.67
AND WE WERE EXCITED ABOUT GOING,
BECAUSE ACTUALLY WHEN WE LEFT
00:41:18.67\00:41:24.45
TUSCALOOSA, MY
WIFE WAS PREGNANT.
00:41:24.45\00:41:25.91
SO THE MEMBERS THERE
ALWAYS FELT THAT WAS THEIR BABY.
00:41:25.91\00:41:29.98
THIS WOULD BE THEIR
FIRST TIME SEEING HER.
00:41:29.98\00:41:32.55
SHE WAS ONLY 4.5-MONTH-OLD.
AND MY CAR HAD BEEN GIVING ME
00:41:32.55\00:41:37.66
TROUBLE ALL THAT WEEK.
BUT TRYING TO SAVE MONEY, YOU
00:41:37.66\00:41:41.63
KNOW. >> OH, YES.
00:41:41.63\00:41:42.90
>> FIXED INCOME. WE'RE
GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK.
00:41:42.90\00:41:46.94
SO WE GET UP SABBATH MORNING
AND WE'RE DRIVING FROM NORTH
00:41:46.94\00:41:51.97
NASHVILLE TO SOUTH NASHVILLE,
AND ON OUR WAY, THE CAR IS JUST
00:41:51.97\00:41:56.68
GIVING TROUBLE. AND
I'M LIKE, I CAN'T DO THIS.
00:41:56.68\00:41:59.95
SO I CALLED THE HELD ELDER OF
OUR CHURCH, AND I SAID, LISTEN,
00:41:59.95\00:42:04.92
CAN WE SWAP VEHICLES? I'LL
TAKE YOUR SUV, AND YOU TAKE
00:42:04.92\00:42:08.52
MY CAR SINCE YOU WILL BE LOCAL.
HE SAID NO PROBLEM COME BY THE
00:42:08.52\00:42:13.56
HOUSE. SO WE
WENT TO HIS HOME AND
00:42:13.56\00:42:16.13
SWAPPED OUT ALL OF OUR THINGS,
CAR SEAT FOR THE BABY, LUGGAGE,
00:42:16.13\00:42:20.80
EVERYTHING. AND
WE WERE ON OUR WAY.
00:42:20.80\00:42:23.64
20 MILES FROM TUSCALOOSA, WE
WERE IN A HORRIFIC ACCIDENT THAT
00:42:23.64\00:42:28.01
CHANGED OUR LIVES
FOREVER. >> UH-HUH.
00:42:28.01\00:42:29.98
>> AND THE CAR, THE SUV WAS
FLIPPED, FLIP, FLIP, THE AXLE
00:42:29.98\00:42:37.85
BROKE. WE WERE ALL UNCONSCIOUS.
00:42:37.85\00:42:40.02
I WOKE UP IN THE MEDIAN OF
THE HIGHWAY, THERE MY WIFE WAS
00:42:40.02\00:42:47.10
CRYING, AND OUR FOUR AND A
HALF-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER WAS
00:42:47.10\00:42:50.33
LAYING IN THE MEDIAN. AND
I LOOKED UP AND A LADY CAME
00:42:50.33\00:42:53.23
TO ME, AND SHE WAS LIKE DO
YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS, AND I SAID
00:42:53.23\00:42:57.74
YES, YES, YES. AND
I SAW THAT MY WIFE WAS
00:42:57.74\00:43:01.21
SCREAMING. IT WAS
KIND OF A GOOD SIGN,
00:43:01.21\00:43:04.08
BECAUSE SHE WAS ALIVE. >> YES.
00:43:04.08\00:43:07.88
>> OUR BABY
GIRL WAS LYING STILL.
00:43:07.88\00:43:11.19
BUT SHE MADE A LITTLE
MOVEMENT. I SAID OKAY.
00:43:11.19\00:43:13.79
SHE IS GOING TO BE ALL RIGHT.
THEY TOOK MY WIFE AND I TO A
00:43:13.79\00:43:17.13
HOSPITAL IN BIRMINGHAM, ALABAMA
AND THEY TOOK OUR DAUGHTER TO
00:43:17.13\00:43:23.03
THE BIRMINGHAM
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.
00:43:23.03\00:43:24.77
OF THE THREE, I HAD THE
LEAST AMOUNT OF INJURIES.
00:43:24.77\00:43:28.30
MY WIFE WAS NOT IN
THE BEST SHAPE AT ALL.
00:43:28.30\00:43:30.57
AND WE WERE AT
THE HOSPITAL TOGETHER.
00:43:30.57\00:43:32.64
SHE SAID GO SEE ABOUT THE BABY.
WENT TO SEE ABOUT THE BABY, WHEN
00:43:32.64\00:43:36.18
I GOT THERE TO THE HOSPITAL, SHE
WAS ON LIFE SUPPORT, AND SHE WAS
00:43:36.18\00:43:41.38
IN BAD CONDITION. >> UH-HUH.
00:43:41.38\00:43:43.08
>> AND SHE WAS NOT RESPONDING.
AND SO THAT WAS VERY, VERY
00:43:43.08\00:43:46.89
TRAUMATIC FOR ME. AND
WHEN I TOLD MY WIFE, FOR
00:43:46.89\00:43:51.56
HER. BUT WE BEGAN TO PRAY.
00:43:51.56\00:43:54.40
>> THIS WAS SABBATH MORNING
SON THE WAY TO CHURCH FOR AN
00:43:54.40\00:43:58.37
APPOINTMENT THAT YOU
WERE NEVER ABLE TO FULFILL.
00:43:58.37\00:44:00.27
>> THAT'S RIGHT. SO
WE CALLED OUR PARENTS.
00:44:00.27\00:44:03.07
OUR PARENTS CAME,
OUR SIBLINGS CAME.
00:44:03.07\00:44:06.24
PASTORS CAME. I NEVER
WILL FORGET MY CURRENT
00:44:06.24\00:44:12.25
CONFERENCE PRESIDENT, HE WAS
PASTORING IN HUNTSVILLE, HE CAME
00:44:12.25\00:44:15.88
AND BEGAN TO PRAY
FOR THE MOVE OF GOD.
00:44:15.88\00:44:19.92
AND YOU ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THE
LORD CAN HEAL, YOU JUST HAVE TO
00:44:19.92\00:44:23.26
HAVE FAITH AND BELIEVE. SO
WHAT I HAD TO SAY TO OTHERS,
00:44:23.26\00:44:26.76
I HAD TO APPLY NOW
TO MYSELF. NO CHANGE.
00:44:26.76\00:44:31.93
26 DAY OF SEPTEMBER, NO CHANGE.
27TH OF SEPTEMBER CAME, AND THE
00:44:31.93\00:44:37.11
DOCTOR CAME IN -- THE ATTENDING
PHYSICIAN AND THE PRESIDING
00:44:37.11\00:44:41.04
PHYSICIAN CAME IN, AND THEY SAID
AT NOON ON THE 28TH WE'RE GOING
00:44:41.04\00:44:48.62
TO TAKE HER OFF LIFE SUPPORT.
WE HAVE DONE ALL WE CAN DO.
00:44:48.62\00:44:51.99
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
WITH THAT WE'RE GOING TO
00:44:51.99\00:44:54.89
TAKE HER OFF LIFE SUPPORT, AND
WE JUST NEED YOU TO KNOW THIS IS
00:44:54.89\00:44:59.49
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
ACCORDING TO ALABAMA LAW WE CAN
00:44:59.49\00:45:02.90
DO THIS. WE BEGAN
TO PRAY LIKE NEVER
00:45:02.90\00:45:06.57
BEFORE. WE CITED
BIBLICAL EXAMPLES OF
00:45:06.57\00:45:09.37
HOW GOD INTERVENED. AND
SO I BELIEVED, YOU KNOW, THE
00:45:09.37\00:45:13.61
LORD WAS GOING TO
INTERVENE AND RAISE MY CHILD UP.
00:45:13.61\00:45:16.95
YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE WHO CAME
WITH DOOM AND GLOOM, YOU ARE
00:45:16.95\00:45:21.05
YOUNG, YOU HAVE OTHER CHILDREN,
ALL OF THAT OTHER KIND OF TALK,
00:45:21.05\00:45:23.95
WE WERE NOT DR. --
INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT.
00:45:23.95\00:45:28.69
BECAUSE WE WANTED THE ROOM
TO BE A ROOM OF EXPECTANCY,
00:45:28.69\00:45:33.63
ANTICIPATION OF
WHAT GOD WAS GOING TO DO.
00:45:33.63\00:45:35.96
GOD WAS GOING TO
PERFORM A MIRACLE FOR US.
00:45:35.96\00:45:38.10
>> UH-HUH. >> WELL,
AT 11:50 ON THE 28TH OF
00:45:38.10\00:45:43.81
SEPTEMBER, DOCTOR CAME IN
AND TOOK US ALL IN TO WHERE OUR
00:45:43.81\00:45:47.61
DAUGHTER WAS, MY WIFE WAS IN A
WHEELCHAIR AT THE TIME, SHE WAS
00:45:47.61\00:45:52.11
WHEELED IN. I WALKED IN.
00:45:52.11\00:45:54.05
MY FAMILY MEMBERS.
PARENTS, IN-LAWS, SIBLINGS, WE
00:45:54.05\00:45:59.55
ALL WENT IN. AND I
REQUESTED TO THE DOCTOR, I
00:45:59.55\00:46:02.72
SAID CAN I HOLD MY
DAUGHTER? AND HE SAID SURE.
00:46:02.72\00:46:06.26
BECAUSE I JUST KNEW THAT AT
12:00 WHEN THEY REMOVED HER FROM
00:46:06.26\00:46:10.73
LIFE SUPPORT THAT SHE WAS GOING
TO COUGH, COO, CRY, SOMETHING.
00:46:10.73\00:46:15.30
>> UH-HUH. >> 12:00
CAME, AND C.A. SHE DIED
00:46:15.30\00:46:20.68
IN MY ARMS. >> OH, WOW.
00:46:20.68\00:46:23.35
>> I NEVER WILL FORGET THAT.
AND I MUST ADMIT, I WAS MAD AT
00:46:23.35\00:46:27.72
THE LORD. >> HUM.
00:46:27.72\00:46:29.28
>> I SAID, GOD, HERE IT IS THE
SABBATH THAT WE WERE TRAVELING.
00:46:29.28\00:46:34.49
MY WIFE AND I NEVER HAD THAT
WILDERNESS EXPERIENCE WHERE WE
00:46:34.49\00:46:37.56
LEFT -- YOU KNOW, WE WERE
GOOD -- GOOD YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:46:37.56\00:46:41.13
>> YEAH. >> NEVER SMOKED.
00:46:41.13\00:46:43.73
WE HAD NEVER
DRUNK. THAT WASN'T US.
00:46:43.73\00:46:46.37
WE WERE ON OUR WAY TO PREACH.
HOW COULD YOU ALLOW THIS TO
00:46:46.37\00:46:51.14
HAPPEN? >> UH-HUH.
00:46:51.14\00:46:52.34
>> TO ME? BECAUSE I WAS ANGRY.
00:46:52.34\00:46:55.08
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
THE TEXT SAYS YOU CAN BE
00:46:55.08\00:46:59.71
ANGRY, BUT SAY NOT. >> RIGHT.
00:46:59.71\00:47:02.35
GOD CAN TAKE IT. >> RIGHT.
00:47:02.35\00:47:04.15
RIGHT. SO WE
LEFT THAT DAY, AND WE
00:47:04.15\00:47:06.49
TRAVELED BACK TO
NASHVILLE, ABOUT 165-MILE RIDE.
00:47:06.49\00:47:10.69
>> UH-HUH. >> AND
IT WAS A LONG RIDE.
00:47:10.69\00:47:14.10
>> UH-HUH. >>
QUIET, YOU KNOW, YOU WALK
00:47:14.10\00:47:17.43
INTO YOUR HOUSE. YOU
SEE THE BABY FURNITURE --
00:47:17.43\00:47:20.17
>> THIS IS YOUR
FIRSTBORN? >> RIGHT.
00:47:20.17\00:47:23.17
>> YEAH. >> AND JUST HORRIFIC.
00:47:23.17\00:47:25.94
I DON'T WANT TO PREACH. I
DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR ANYONE
00:47:25.94\00:47:30.41
TELL ME ABOUT GOD.
BECAUSE HOW COULD GOD ALLOW THIS
00:47:30.41\00:47:33.58
TO HAPPEN TO ME. >> UH-HUH.
00:47:33.58\00:47:35.55
>> AND SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS WENT
BY, AND ONE DAY I REMEMBER THE
00:47:35.55\00:47:40.66
CONFERENCE
OFFICE WAS IN NASHVILLE.
00:47:40.66\00:47:42.49
I TRIED TO GO THERE ONE
DAY. IT WAS PREMATURE, MY GOING.
00:47:42.49\00:47:46.56
WENT THROUGH, JUST BROKE
DOWN, HAD TO GO BACK HOME.
00:47:46.56\00:47:50.27
BUT THERE WAS LIKE A WEEK LATER
I -- I MADE IT TO THE CHURCH
00:47:50.27\00:47:54.14
WHERE I PASTORED. AND
I WAS IN MY OFFICE, AND I
00:47:54.14\00:47:57.74
JUST OPENED UP
THE BIBLE ON MY DESK.
00:47:57.74\00:48:01.38
AND THIS IS NOT A CLICHE
OR EXAGGERATION OF TRUTH.
00:48:01.38\00:48:06.35
THIS IS TRUTH. I
OPENED UP THE BIBLE AND
00:48:06.35\00:48:09.08
SOMETIMES YOU CAN OPEN UP THE
BIBLE AND THE LORD WILL ALLOW
00:48:09.08\00:48:11.79
YOU TO OPEN UP THE BIBLE TO THE
VERY TEXT YOU NEED RIGHT THERE.
00:48:11.79\00:48:15.06
>> THAT'S TRUE. >>
AND I OPENED IT UP, AND IT
00:48:15.06\00:48:19.66
WAS 1 CORINTHIANS, 10:13.
NO TEMPTATION HAS TAKEN YOU BUT
00:48:19.66\00:48:27.80
SUCH IS COMMON TO MAN.
YOU WILL ABLE TO GO WITH THE
00:48:27.80\00:48:32.81
TEMPTATION, MAKE THE WAY OF
ESCAPE, THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO
00:48:32.81\00:48:35.51
BARE IT. SO I SAID
AM I GOING TO BECOME
00:48:35.51\00:48:40.48
BETTER OR BITTER?
>> OR BITTER, SURE?
00:48:40.48\00:48:43.62
>> AND I DETERMINED
THAT DAY TO BECOME BETTER.
00:48:43.62\00:48:45.92
AND WITH THAT, IT'S CLICHE,
BUT IT'S TRUE, GOD HAS TAKEN OUR
00:48:45.92\00:48:52.09
VALLEY TURNED IT INTO VICTORY,
PAIN INTO POWER, AND THE LORD
00:48:52.09\00:48:56.06
HAS BLESSED MY WIFE AND
I, BLESSED OUR MINISTRY.
00:48:56.06\00:48:59.60
BLESSED OUR MARRIAGE, BLESSED US
WITH THREE ADDITIONAL CHILDREN,
00:48:59.60\00:49:04.14
ALL GIRLS. NOT THAT
THEY REPLACE OUR FIRST
00:49:04.14\00:49:07.18
BORN -- >> RIGHT.
00:49:07.18\00:49:08.81
>> -- BUT HE HAS BLESSED
US -- THERE IS STILL A PART OF
00:49:08.81\00:49:12.51
ME THAT I FEEL IS GONE.
MY WIFE AND I READ SELECTIVE
00:49:12.51\00:49:17.95
MESSAGES BY ELLEN WHITE BOOK
2, WHERE IT SAYS JUST BEFORE THE
00:49:17.95\00:49:23.59
COMING OF THE LORD GOD WILL HAVE
TO LAY LITTLE ONES TO REST, BUT
00:49:23.59\00:49:27.73
IF WE'RE FAITHFUL AT THE COMING
OF THE LORD, THE DEAD OF CHRIST
00:49:27.73\00:49:33.90
ARE GOING TO RISE FIRST, AND
WE'LL MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR,
00:49:33.90\00:49:39.64
AND THEN GABRIEL WILL TAKE THOSE
LITTLE ONES AND PLACE THEM IN
00:49:39.64\00:49:43.38
THE ARMS OF THEIR MOTHERS.
>> SO MY WIFE AND I WE LOOK
00:49:43.38\00:49:47.68
FORWARD TO THAT DAY. THE
LORD IS GOING TO TAKE OUR
00:49:47.68\00:49:50.85
FIRST BORN AND PLACE IT
-- HER IN MY WIFE'S ARMS.
00:49:50.85\00:49:54.29
AND WE'RE LOOKING
FORWARD TO THAT DAY.
00:49:54.29\00:49:59.56
SO PREACHING THE SECOND
COMING HAS NEW MEANING FOR ME.
00:49:59.56\00:50:03.53
WHEN I PREACH THE STATE OF
THE DEAD, NEW MEANING FOR ME.
00:50:03.53\00:50:08.40
THERE'S A CERTAIN
PASSION AND RIGOR.
00:50:08.40\00:50:11.14
SO I WANT TO SEE JESUS
AND MY LITTLE GIRL AGAIN.
00:50:11.14\00:50:16.78
>> LET ME ASK YOU ONE OF
THOSE QUESTIONS WE TALKED ABOUT.
00:50:16.78\00:50:21.78
WHAT DID THAT EXPERIENCE DO AS
FAR AS COLORING YOUR MINISTRY,
00:50:21.78\00:50:26.35
AND GIVING YOU A GLIMPSE OF THE
COLOR AND FIDELITY OF THE GOD
00:50:26.35\00:50:35.43
THAT YOU SERVE?
>> GOD IS MERCIFUL.
00:50:35.43\00:50:38.67
HE NEVER PROMISES
THERE WILL BE NO PAIN.
00:50:38.67\00:50:41.67
>> UH-HUH. >> BUT
HE SAID HE WOULD BE
00:50:41.67\00:50:44.57
THERE. >> YES.
00:50:44.57\00:50:45.34
>> HE NEVER SAID WE WOULD LIVE A
LIFE FREE FROM PAIN, BUT HE SAID
00:50:45.34\00:50:50.08
HE WOULD BE THERE.
AND SO NOW, C.A. IT COMES
00:50:50.08\00:50:53.95
THROUGH IN MY PREACHING.
I'M NOT JUST CALLING WORDS.
00:50:53.95\00:50:59.29
I'M NOT JUST PONTIFICATING.
I BELIEVE IN THIS THING.
00:50:59.29\00:51:02.62
I BELIEVE IN GOD. I
BELIEVE IN WHAT HIS WORDS SAY.
00:51:02.62\00:51:07.30
THAT'S MY HOPE. SO
THAT AUTHENTICITY, AND TRAN
00:51:07.30\00:51:13.30
PARENTSY IN MY PRESENTATION,
YOU KNOW, IT IS THERE.
00:51:13.30\00:51:15.20
>> YEAH. >> SO I
WOULD SAY THAT THAT KIND
00:51:15.20\00:51:18.34
OF HAS BEEN THE DIFFERENCE.
PRETHIS CHALLENGE TO NOW POST
00:51:18.34\00:51:22.31
THOUGH CHALLENGE THAT I
HAVE EXPERIENCED IN MY LIFE.
00:51:22.31\00:51:25.48
>> YEAH, THAT KIND OF THING
MAKES YOU REACH OUT AND GRAB
00:51:25.48\00:51:29.98
HOLD. HEBREWS
13, 5-6 SAYS WE CAN
00:51:29.98\00:51:36.22
BOLDLY SAY GOD IS OUR HELPER.
I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
00:51:36.22\00:51:39.83
GOD HELPS ME. I
NEED THE HELP OF GOD.
00:51:39.83\00:51:42.90
>> THAT'S RIGHT. AND
WHERE MY WIFE AND I ARE
00:51:42.90\00:51:46.33
PERSONALLY, WITH OUR KIDS.
WE HAVE KEEN WHERE HE BROUGHT
00:51:46.33\00:51:50.01
US, WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR
MINISTRY, WE HAVE SEEN WHERE GOD
00:51:50.01\00:51:54.74
HAS BROUGHT US. GOD IS
OUR REFUGE AND STRENGTH.
00:51:54.74\00:51:59.61
>> YES. UH-HUH.
00:51:59.61\00:52:01.18
>> I'M NOT JUST
SAYING IT. I'M LIVING IT.
00:52:01.18\00:52:04.09
AND THAT DOESN'T
MEAN -- I'M 44 YE
00:52:04.09\00:52:07.82
YEARS OLD. THAT
DOESN'T MEAN THE REST OF MY
00:52:07.82\00:52:10.99
LIFE IS GOING TO BE EXEMPT
OF SUFFERING AND TRIUMPH, JUST
00:52:10.99\00:52:17.73
BECAUSE I ACCEPTED JESUS AS MY
PERSONAL SAVIOR, DOES NOT MEAN
00:52:17.73\00:52:24.01
WE HAVE TAKEN UP AN INSURANCE
POLICY THAT MAKES US FREE FROM
00:52:24.01\00:52:29.08
SUFFERING AND PAIN, BUT
GOD HAS SAID HE WILL BE THERE.
00:52:29.08\00:52:33.85
>> PRAISE GOD. AGAIN,
"THE BIBLE TEXTIONARY" IS
00:52:33.85\00:52:37.69
OUR FREE OFFER FOR THE EVENING,
AND IF YOU CALL US 618-627-4651
00:52:37.69\00:52:44.56
OR FREEOFFER@3ABN.TV. NOW,
AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO WEIGH
00:52:44.56\00:52:50.23
IN ON ANYTHING WE HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT -- AND WE HAVE
00:52:50.23\00:52:53.34
SPENT THIS TIME TALKING
ABOUT THE PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF
00:52:53.34\00:52:58.94
PASTO PASTOR CARLTON BYRD.
00:52:58.94\00:53:04.35
BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY.
GOD HAS SEASONED THIS MINISTRY
00:53:04.35\00:53:08.25
WITH THOSE KINDS OF EXPERIENCES
THAT MAKE YOU STRONG IN THE
00:53:08.25\00:53:11.52
LORD. AND I
THINK IT IS VERY, VERY
00:53:11.52\00:53:14.86
TRUE. 1 PETER 4-12, THINK IT NOT
00:53:14.86\00:53:18.83
STRAINED [ INAUDIBLE ] STRANGE
THING HAS HAPPENED UNTO YOU, BUT
00:53:18.83\00:53:22.33
IT'S GOING TO COME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I GOT STUFF.
00:53:22.33\00:53:25.50
YOU GOT STUFF. ALL OF
GOD'S CHILDREN GOT STUFF.
00:53:25.50\00:53:28.44
BUT ALONG WITH THAT
STUFF, WE ALSO HAVE GOT JESUS.
00:53:28.44\00:53:32.44
>> YES. >> AND
THAT'S WHAT THAT KIND OF
00:53:32.44\00:53:36.28
EXPERIENCE AFFIRMS FOR YOU.
KEEP ON LIVING, YOUR STUFF IS
00:53:36.28\00:53:41.85
COMING, BUT WHEN THE STUFF
HITS, CHRIST WILL BE WITH YOU.
00:53:41.85\00:53:47.42
NOW LAST THREE MINUTES OF
THIS HALF, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU
00:53:47.42\00:53:51.13
ABOUT OAKWOOD. THEN
WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO
00:53:51.13\00:53:54.83
EVANGELISM, I
PROMISE YOU. >> OKAY.
00:53:54.83\00:53:57.33
>> I WOULDN'T
MIND BEING STRONGER.
00:53:57.33\00:53:59.70
I DON'T
NECESSARILY WANT TO BE YOUNGER.
00:53:59.70\00:54:02.20
>> OKAY. >> AND I
SURELY AS THE LORD
00:54:02.20\00:54:06.47
LIVETH, I DON'T WANT
TO BE 20 OR 25 AGAIN.
00:54:06.47\00:54:10.11
I LIKE BEING,
YOU KNOW, WHAT I AM.
00:54:10.11\00:54:12.15
>> OKAY. >> I WISH
I HAD THE STRENGTH OF
00:54:12.15\00:54:15.05
25. BUT TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT
00:54:15.05\00:54:16.45
ABOUT THE KINDS OF STUDENTS
WE ARE SEEING IN COLLEGE.
00:54:16.45\00:54:20.99
AND THIS MAY LEAK OVER INTO OUR
SECOND HOUR, THAT YOU ARE CALLED
00:54:20.99\00:54:24.79
TO DO, TO MINISTER
TO THE YOUNG PEOPLE.
00:54:24.79\00:54:27.03
THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN
THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF OUR DAY.
00:54:27.03\00:54:29.86
TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE
SEEING AT OAKWOOD UNIVERSITY.
00:54:29.86\00:54:33.37
>> WELL, WE CAN FIRST TALK ABOUT
PERSONS WHO DO HAVE A BACKGROUND
00:54:33.37\00:54:37.27
IN CHRISTIANITY, AND
THEN THOSE WHO DON'T.
00:54:37.27\00:54:40.08
SO LET'S TALK
ABOUT THOSE WHO DO.
00:54:40.08\00:54:42.38
>> YES. >> YEARS
AGO, THE PASTOR, COULD
00:54:42.38\00:54:46.45
GET UP, PREACH, TEACH, THIS
IS WHAT THUS SAITH THE LORD.
00:54:46.45\00:54:54.22
AND THAT'S THE END
OF IT. TODAY IT'S WHY.
00:54:54.22\00:54:57.96
AND THAT QUESTION FROM OUR
YOUNG PEOPLE, SPECIFICALLY OUR
00:54:57.96\00:55:03.23
MILLENNIALS IS
GETTING LOUDER. WHY?
00:55:03.23\00:55:05.33
YEARS AGO A PREACHER
SAYS THIS IS WHO WE ARE.
00:55:05.33\00:55:08.30
THIS IS WHAT WE DO.
THIS IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
00:55:08.30\00:55:11.21
>> UH-HUH. >> WELL, WHY?
00:55:11.21\00:55:13.51
WHY DO WE DO WHAT WE DO?
ARE YOU SURE THE BIBLE MEANT
00:55:13.51\00:55:17.81
THAT? SO I WOULD
FIRST SAY INTERNALLY
00:55:17.81\00:55:20.38
FOR OUR YOUNG PEOPLE WHO
ARE CHRISTIANS OR CLAIM TO BE OF
00:55:20.38\00:55:24.05
CHRISTIAN ROOTS, THERE -- THERE
IS AN INQUISITIVE NATURE ABOUT
00:55:24.05\00:55:28.92
THEM. AND YOU GOT TO BE READY TO
00:55:28.92\00:55:30.83
ANSWER THAT. YOU
CAN'T JUST BECAUSE, WELL, I
00:55:30.83\00:55:33.93
SAID SO. SO LET'S
TALK ABOUT THE SABBATH.
00:55:33.93\00:55:40.07
WELL, WHY? >> YEAH.
00:55:40.07\00:55:41.94
>> WE KEEP THE SABBATH
HOLLY. WHAT DOES HOLLY MEAN?
00:55:41.94\00:55:46.17
>> OKAY. >> AND HOW
DO WE KNOW THAT THIS
00:55:46.17\00:55:50.51
SABBATH IS SUNSET
TO SUNSET. UH-HUH.
00:55:50.51\00:55:54.38
>> IN MY DAY WE
WOULD NEVER QUESTION THAT.
00:55:54.38\00:55:57.35
IT IS WHAT IT IS. BUT
TODAY YOU HAVE THAT QUESTION
00:55:57.35\00:56:00.56
OF WHY. AND YOU
HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO
00:56:00.56\00:56:03.32
GIVE A LOGICAL
ANSWER AS TO THE WHY.
00:56:03.32\00:56:05.39
>> UH-HUH. UH-HUH.
00:56:05.39\00:56:07.93
LET ME ADD THIS THEN, DO YOU SEE
THIS AS LEGITIMATE INQUIRY, OF
00:56:07.93\00:56:13.57
AN INQUISITIVE MIND, OR A
RECALCITRANCE, SOMEONE WHO IS
00:56:13.57\00:56:18.24
LOOKING FOR EXCUSES? IS
IT LEGIT THIS KIND OF EXTRA
00:56:18.24\00:56:24.31
QUESTIONING, AND IF SO
WHAT SHOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE?
00:56:24.31\00:56:26.72
>> I THINK IT'S
A HYBRID OF BOTH.
00:56:26.72\00:56:30.09
I THINK FOR THE FORMER IT
IS MORE THE FORMER THAT IT IS
00:56:30.09\00:56:36.73
LEGITIMATE. FOR THE
LATTER, IT COULD BE A
00:56:36.73\00:56:40.13
QUESTION OF REBELLION, BUT
I THINK MORE SO IT IS LEGIT.
00:56:40.13\00:56:49.40
AND I SEE THAT
AS AN OPPORTUNITY.
00:56:49.40\00:56:51.54
IF YOU ANSWER IN A LOGICAL WAY,
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MORE WILLING TO
00:56:51.54\00:56:56.04
GO TELL SOMEONE ELSE.
AND IT KEEPS ME SHARP AND
00:56:56.04\00:56:59.71
STUDYING. >> YEAH.
00:56:59.71\00:57:00.32
>> I GOT TO BE ABLE TO
ANSWER -- THIS HAS GOT TO MAKE
00:57:00.32\00:57:04.89
SENSE. SO I WOULD
DARE TO SAY A HYBRID,
00:57:04.89\00:57:07.32
BUT I THINK THE FORMER IS MORE
SO THE CASE, AND THEY OUT OF A
00:57:07.32\00:57:12.86
GENUINE DESIRE,
GENUINE CONCERN, WHY?
00:57:12.86\00:57:15.20
>> YEAH. YEAH.
00:57:15.20\00:57:16.20
AND EVEN IF IT IS COMING FROM
A PERSON WHO JUST WANTS TO ARGUE
00:57:16.20\00:57:20.00
WITH YOU, YOU HAVE TO
MINISTER TO THAT CHILD ALSO.
00:57:20.00\00:57:23.84
>> THAT'S CORRECT. >>
ALL OF THEM DESERVE MINISTRY.
00:57:23.84\00:57:26.68
>> ALL OF THEM DESERVE MINISTRY.
>> WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT,
00:57:26.68\00:57:30.95
AND GET INTO
EVANGELISM IN THE SECOND HALF.
00:57:30.95\00:57:35.12
THIS HAS BEEN A FUN
FAST AND FURY HOUR FOR ME.
00:57:35.12\00:57:38.42
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A BREAK.
WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A LITTLE
00:57:38.42\00:57:43.12
BIT. TWO
MINUTES AND TWO SECONDS.
00:57:43.12\00:57:44.89
¤
00:57:44.89\00:57:47.10