3ABN Today LIVE

The Experience of Salvation

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Participants: C.A. Murray (Host), Shelley Quinn

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00:09 [ MUSIC ] >> I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
00:17 MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE REMOVING
00:25 PAIN ♪ LORD, LET MY WORD HEAL A HEART
00:38 THAT HURTS ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE MENDING
00:44 BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE ♪
00:56 MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ♪ >> HELLO. WELCOME TO 3ABN TODAY
01:15 LIVE. THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR NO
01:17 DOUBT BUSY DAY FOR US. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE,
01:20 PRAYERS AND SUPPORT OF THE MINISTRY.
01:22 WE'RE CONVICTED AND CONVINCED WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT
01:26 YOUR PARTNERSHIP. WHEN WE SAY THANK YOU, WE MEAN
01:29 THANK YOU. I NEED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE
01:31 SECRET. I NEVER LIKED AND DO NOT LIKE
01:33 AND PROBABLY WILL NEVER LIKE THE WORD HOST.
01:36 I DO NOT USE IT. IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME.
01:40 WHAT IS A HOST? I DON'T LIKE THE WORD.
01:43 I'M NOT GOING TO CALL MYSELF THE HOST OF THE PROGRAM.
01:48 THAT MEANS THE LOVELY LADY SITTING NEXT TO ME IS NOT A
01:52 GUEST. WHEN I INTRODUCE, SHELLEY QUINN,
01:54 SHE'S NOT A GUEST. WE'RE COFACILITATORS.
01:59 BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF REASONS. ONE, SUBJECT MATTER I STUDY MOST
02:04 OF MY ADULT LIFE. SHELLEY HAS WRITTEN ON HER
02:08 WORKS. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
02:09 THE EXPERIENCE OF SALVATION. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, WE
02:14 WANT TO GIVE IT AS MUCH A BRUSH STROKE, PAST, PRESENT AND
02:20 FUTURE. WHAT HAPPENS IN HEAVEN, WHAT
02:22 HAPPENS ON EARTH AND WHAT IS OUR RESPONSE AS WE WALK INTO THE
02:26 EXPERIENCE. WE DON'T GET TOGETHER IN A
02:28 CORNER, YOU SAY THIS AND YOU SAY THIS AND YOU SAY THAT.
02:32 WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT IN ANY OF THE PROGRAMS.
02:34 WE STUDIED INDEPENDENTLY. WE KNOW OUR WORDS WILL MATCH AND
02:39 BLESSED BY THE LORD BECAUSE WE'RE STUDYING THE SAME THING.
02:43 >> THAT'S VERY TRUE. YOU HAVE TO CONFESS WE'RE
02:47 EXPECTING A LARGER PANEL. >> I WAS HEADING INTO THAT.
02:49 >> WHEN YOU SAY STUDY, I 4T$OUGHT, OH WE HAD A SHORT TIME --
02:54 >> TO SORT OF PULL IT TOGETHER. IT WAS OUR INTENTION, 3ABN'S
03:01 INTENTION TO HAVE A FAIRLY LARGE GROUP.
03:04 WE HAVE PEOPLE MINISTERING ALL OVER IN DIFFERENT STATES,
03:07 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. PEOPLE ARE DOING ALL KINDS OF
03:09 THINGS. DANNY IS HANGING OUT IN THE
03:13 PLAIN AND PASTOR LAWRENCE IS DOING SOMETHING
03:17 AND WE HAVE SHELLEY IS STUCK IN HOUSTON, WHO CAN'T GO ANYWHERE
03:21 BECAUSE IT'S RAINING IN YOUR STATE.
03:24 THEY ARE GROUNDED FOR TWO DAYS. THEY ARE NOT WHERE THEY WANT TO
03:28 GO. WE HAVE TO KEEP JOHN AND JORGE
03:30 IN PRAYER. LAST I TALKED, THEY WERE WAITING
03:33 FOR IT TO RAIN. I HEARD IT IS GOING TO RAIN THE
03:36 NEXT DAY AND THE NEXT DAY. IT'S GOING TO RAIN FOR SEVERAL
03:40 DAYS. >> IT'S EVEN FLOODING IN OUR
03:42 NECK OF THE WOODS IN CENTRAL TEXAS.
03:44 ONE GOOD THING, THE FARM IS ELEVATED ENOUGH THAT THEY ARE
03:48 GETTING A LOT OF SOIL EROSION THERE: THE LOW-LYING AREAS ARE
03:56 GETTING HAMMERED. >> WE NEED TO PRAY THIS EARTH IS
04:01 WAXING LIKE A GARMENT AND EACH OF THE DISASTER, MANY ARE
04:08 UNNATURALLY LONG, UNNATURALLY SEVERE, ARE LETTING US KNOW
04:13 CHRIST IS COMING NEAR. THIS STUDY IS THE EXPERIENCE OF
04:16 SALVATION IS ONE OF IMPORT AND IS INDEED PRESENT AND TRUE.
04:21 GET YOUR PENS, PENCIL, iPHONE, iPAD, WHATEVER YOU TAKE NOTES
04:27 ON. THIS IS A SUBJECT THAT SHELLEY
04:30 HAS STUDIED VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A LOT TO TELL YOU.
04:33 SOME YOU MAY KNOW. SOME MAY AB REFRESHER COURSE TO
04:38 YOU. IT'S NICE TO DRAW CLOSE AND
04:40 LISTEN WELL, BECAUSE WE WILL TALK TO SOME THINGS AS WE COME
04:43 TO THE LAST DAYS OF THIS EARTH'S HISTORY.
04:46 BEFORE WE GET TO OUR MUSIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
04:50 DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR SPECIAL OVER?
04:52 >> THIS IS A LIVE PROGRAM. YOU ARE INVITED TO SEND IN YOUR
04:56 PRAYER REQUESTS OR YOUR QUESTIONS THAT WILL GET TO IN
04:59 THE SECOND HOUR, HOPEFULLY, IF WE HAVE TIME.
05:03 YOU COULD DO THAT BY SUBMITTING IT TO LIVE AT 3ABN.TV OR CALL
05:15 618-627-4651. AND WE LOOK FORWARD AND I WANTED
05:17 TO EVEN IF WE DON'T GET TO YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS ON THE AIR, I
05:21 WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO SEND THEM IN.
05:24 WE PRAY OVER THEM WHEN WE FINISH THE PROGRAM.
05:28 THE PASTORAL DEPARTMENT PRAYS OVER THEM EVERY DAY THE
05:31 FOLLOWING WEEK. IT'S VERY GOOD.
05:32 WE HAVE A FREE OFFER. IT IS CALLED THE PLAN OF
05:37 REDEMPTION. THIS IS A SIX PAGE BROCHURE.
05:46 IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STORY OF GOD'S PLAN TO SAVE MANKIND AND IT'S
05:53 WRITTEN IN STORY FORM FROM THE BIBLE.
05:55 IT'S SOMETHING YOU WILL ENJOY AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT SHARING
06:01 TOOL. >> AMEN.
06:02 >> TELL THEM HOW TO GET IT. YOU COULD CALL AT 618-627-4651
06:12 OR E-MAIL AT FREE OFFER AT 3ABN.TV.
06:16 >> AMEN. A COUPLE OF THINGS WE WANT TO DO
06:19 AGAIN. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU, IF
06:21 THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD LIGHT OR HAVE A QUESTION IN
06:24 THE SECOND HOUR, SEND THEM AND YOU MAY NOT NEED TO WAIT TO THE
06:29 SECOND HOUR. LET US KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING AND
06:32 YOU'RE LISTENING AND YOU'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
06:35 SO DO THAT AND WE WILL BE GLAD TO GET TO THEM AS SOON AS WE
06:38 CAN. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE
06:41 EXPERIENCE OF SALVATION. BEFORE WE EVEN GO TO OUR MUSIC,
06:45 SHELLEY I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU. BECAUSE YOU CAME TO THE MINISTER
06:54 AS AN ADULT. I JOINED WHEN I WAS 10.
06:58 YOU WERE IN ANOTHER DENOMINATION.
06:59 YOU STUDIED YOUR WAY TO ADVENTISM.
07:02 SOME OF THE THINGS YOU RAN INTO, AS YOU BEGAN TO STUDY,
07:06 PARTICULARLY SALVATION AND HOW SALVATION IS ATTAINED.
07:09 I HEARD YOU SAY, YOU ARE ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO TRY TO WORK
07:14 AND PLEASE GOD THROUGH YOUR OWN EFFORTS.
07:17 YOU RUN AS IN MARTIN LUTHER, I WILL WORK MYSELF TO THE GRAVE, I
07:21 WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH, MY WORKS WILL NEVER MERIT ME TO
07:27 GOD. WALK ME INTO THE BODY OF
07:29 KNOWLEDGE, BODY OF TRUTH AND THE KIND OF CHANGES.
07:32 YOU CAME FROM A CORPORATE WORLD, BUSINESS WORLD.
07:35 THEN YOU CAME INTO MINISTRY AND PLUS CORPORATE AND FULL-TIME
07:40 MINISTRY. AND YOU MADE THE PROGRESSION.
07:42 AT EACH STEP, YOU TRUST IN THE LORD MORE.
07:45 LORD, I WILL STEP OUT AND DO FULL-TIME FOR YOU.
07:49 I HAVE SOME STUFF TO WADE THROUGH AS FAR AS DOCTRINE.
07:53 WALK US THROUGH THAT. >> LET ME GIVE YOU THE READER'S
07:57 DIGEST. IN 1996, I SUFFERED VERTIGO FOR
08:01 A WHOLE YEAR. THAT'S WHEN THE LORD SPOKE TO ME
08:06 AND SAID TRUST IN HIS WORD. I GOTTEN INTO THE WORD AND HE
08:12 TAUGHT ME TO PRAY THE WORD BACK. IT'S AMAZING HOW HE CHANGED MY
08:16 LIFE THEN. WHAT HAPPENED, AFTER A COUPLE OF
08:18 YEARS OF WALKING SO CLOSE, I FOUND MYSELF IN A FULL-TIME JOB
08:25 THAT HAD ME TRAVELLING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
08:28 IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. SO I STARTED BACK SLIDING
08:31 BECAUSE I GOT OUT OF THE WORD. AND THEN WHEN THIS COMPANY
08:39 ACTUALLY WENT BANKRUPT IN 1999, I WAS PRAYING ONE DAY ON THE WAY
08:46 TO SAM'S. I WAS LEAVING THE FARM AND
08:49 DRIVING TO SAM'S, PRAYING, LORD, HOW COULD I WALK SO CLOSELY THAT
08:57 I COULD FEEL YOUR HEARTBEAT AND WALK INTO THIS.
09:01 I WALKED OUT OF SAM'S, EARNESTLY PRAYING AN HOUR COMING HOME.
09:06 THE LORD IMPRESSED ME WITH HIS THOUGHTS.
09:09 HE SAID, HOW COULD I KEEP BACK SLIDING?
09:13 AND THE THOUGHT HE IMPRESSED WITH, IF YOU COME TO ME, IF YOU
09:18 PRAY AN HOUR THE FIRST THING EVERY MORNING, I PROMISE WILL
09:23 NEVER BACK SLIDE. HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO PRAY THAT
09:26 HOUR. IN AS HE WAS TEACHING ME THAT,
09:30 HE TAUGHT ME THE FIVE STEPS OF REPENTANCE.
09:34 AS I'M PRAYING EACH DAY FOR AN HOUR, HE'S TEACHING ME ABOUT
09:38 SURRENDER, HE'S TEACHING ME ALL THESE THINGS IN MY PRAYER.
09:41 AND THEN I KNEW HE WAS CALLING ME TO FULL-TIME MINISTRY.
09:46 HERE'S HOW IT GETS EXCITING. I ALREADY STUDIED MY WAY IN THE
09:51 CHURCH IN WHICH I GREW UP INTO A NONDENOMINATIONAL ARENA.
09:56 WHEN GOD CALLED ME TO FULL-TIME MINISTRY, THEN MY HUSBAND, WHO
10:00 HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP ADVENTIST, BUT WALKED AWAY FROM THE CHURCH
10:04 AT 21, HE THEN IS SAYING, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ANSWER MY
10:09 FRIEND WHO BELIEVES IN THE SABBATH?
10:12 THAT'S EASY. I HAD AN EIGHT PAGE DOCUMENT WAS
10:23 CHANGED. BUT GOD CALLED ME TO STUDY THE
10:26 SANCTUARY. AS I STUDIED THE SANCTUARY,
10:29 THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME CRYSTAL CLEAR TO ME THAT THE TEN
10:33 COMMANDMENTS WERE STILL ENFORCE. I PRAISE GOD FOR BIBLE SOFTWARE
10:39 BECAUSE WITH BIBLE SOFTWARE, I COULD STUDY EVERY SCRIPTURE ON A
10:45 TOPIC FROM GENESIS TO REVELATION.
10:51 I WOULD PRINTOUT EVERY SCRIPTURE AND STUDY IT BY CONTENT.
10:54 AND WHAT HAPPENED, I SAW THAT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS WERE INSIDE
10:59 THE ARC. THEY WERE THE -- I MEAN THIS IS
11:01 THE FOUNDATION OF HIS THROWN WITH THE MERCY SEAT ABOVE IT AND
11:08 THAT THE OLD COVENNANT IN THE LAW OF MOSES, OUTSIDE OF THE
11:13 ARC, WAS A CURSE AGAINST THEM. THIS DID SOMETHING TO ME.
11:19 THERE'S ONLY ONE COMMANDMENT I WASN'T KEEPING AND THAT'S THE
11:23 SABBATH. >> I WAS TAUGHT AND TAUGHT TO AN
11:26 EXTENT, CONVERSION MANY TIMES COMES WITH CONVICTION.
11:29 A CONVICTION THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG.
11:31 >> OH, ABSOLUTELY. >> WERE YOU MOVED BY SOMETHING
11:34 IS WRONG OR JUST A SEEKER TO TRY TO FIND MORE?
11:37 YOU KNOW, I'M GOING THIS WAY BUT THIS IS NOT MAKING IT.
11:42 THIS IS NOT DOING IT. WAS IT A CONVICTION THAT
11:46 SOMETHING WAS WRONG OR WAS IT SOMETHING, I WANT TO KNOW MORE?
11:51 THEN I RUN INTO THIS AND NOW I HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
11:55 >> GOD CLEARLY SPOKE TO ME. AND I SAY THAT, FIRST KINGS
12:03 19:12. FORGET WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW
12:05 AND I WILL TEACH YOU. SO WHEN I CAME TO THE WORD, YEAH
12:09 THERE WERE MANY THINGS IN MY LIFE.
12:11 AT THAT TIME, I WAS REALLY WALKING WITH HIM.
12:15 WHEN I CAME TO THE WORD, IT'S LIKE HE TOOK THE BLINDERS OFF
12:20 AND I WAS NOT -- YOU KNOW, OFTEN WE STUDY THROUGH THE LENS OF OUR
12:25 UNDERSTANDING. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE A
12:28 PRECONCEIVED NOTION TO INOCULATE YOU AGAINST TRUTH.
12:31 IT WILL KEEP YOU FROM UNDERSTANDING TRUTH.
12:35 SO HE KNOCKED ALL OF THAT AWAY FROM ME AND WHEN I WAS STUDYING
12:41 THE CONVICTION CAME AS I SAW -- YOU KNOW, I WAS STUDYING
12:52 COLASSIANS 2:13. WHEN I STUDY, IT WAS NOT FOR THE
12:58 CROSS, AND I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR THE JEWS.
13:00 AND I STUDIED THE SABBATH AND I WAS SO EXCITED.
13:04 WHEN I KEPT MY FIRST SABBATH, J.D. WAS OUT OF TOWN.
13:09 I DIDN'T HAVE A CHURCH ANYWHERE I KNEW OF.
13:13 I DIDN'T KNOW ADVENTIST YET. WHEN I KEPT THE FIRST SABBATH,
13:18 IT WAS LIKE, OH, BECAUSE IN KEEPING THE SABBATH, MY FAVORITE
13:23 SCRIPTURE, EXODUS, 31:13. SABBATH SHOWS THE SIGN HE'S THE
13:33 ONE THAT SANCTIFIES YOU. SANG FICICATION, WHICH IS A WORK
13:39 OF GOD, HE WAS TEACHING ME THESE THINGS.
13:42 BUT WHEN, THE FIRST SABBATH, ALL I COULD REMEMBER THINKING THE
13:47 WHOLE TIME IS THAT GOD IS SAVING ME.
13:50 I DON'T HAVE TO SAVE MYSELF. AND SO IT WAS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL
13:55 EXPERIENCE. AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT WAS
13:57 INTERESTING IN THE BEGINNING. EVEN THOUGH HE WAS SHOWING ME
13:59 THE TRUTH, TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEK, SOMETIMES, COME
14:03 THURSDAY NIGHT OR SOMETHING, I'M STILL KIND OF BEGINNING TO SLIP
14:07 BACK, OH, I GOT TO DO THIS. I GOT TO DO THAT.
14:11 WHEN FRIDAY NIGHT WOULD COME ALONG, I WOULD JUST BE PRAISING
14:15 GOD FOR SAVING ME. SO MANY PEOPLE AND I GREW UP
14:19 THIS WAY. I ONLY KNEW ABOUT JUSTIFICATION.
14:22 YOU KNOW. IT CHANGES YOUR RECORD.
14:25 I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT SANG FIF F-- SANCTIFICATION.
14:37 THE CONVICTION CAME WHEN I UNDERSTOOD.
14:40 WHEN I WAS UNDERSTANDING SANCTIFICATION, THAT THIS IS THE
14:47 WORK OF GOD AND HE WANTS ME TO COOPERATE.
14:51 AS PAUL SAID, 2:21, 2-12 >> AND I DARE SAY THAT.
15:04 AND KNOWING LITTLE ABOUT YOUR TESTIMONY, THE KEY PART IS, GOD
15:09 SAID TO YOU AND YOU ALLOWED HIM OF STRIPPING YOU OF ONE THAT YOU
15:14 KNOWN BEFORE. THE PSYCHOLOGIST CALL IT BLANK
15:18 SLATE. I'M ERASING KIND OF LIKE
15:25 X-SKETCH. I'M CLEANING THE SLATE.
15:26 I'M GOING TO LET YOU REWRITE. THE REASON WHY THE FIRST SABBATH
15:31 WAS A JOY, YOU BROUGHT NO PRECONCEPTION.
15:35 LORD, I'M WALKING THROUGH, AND DO FOR ME THROUGH ME WHAT YOU
15:41 WANT. YOU ARE BRINGING A BLESSED
15:44 EXPERIENCE BECAUSE YOU LET GOD SPEAK.
15:46 >> IT'S THE FIRST DAY OF YOUR LIFE THAT I JUST BACK AND
15:51 RELAXED AND RESTED IN THE LORD. I WAS IN THE WORD AND I WAS
15:54 PRAYING. OH, IT WAS LIKE, I DON'T HAVE TO
15:57 DO THIS, I DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
16:00 I AM A PERFORMANCE ORIENTED PERSON.
16:03 I CONSTANTLY HAVE A TO-DO LIST. AND TO JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY
16:09 COMMUNE WITH GOD. BUT EVEN, IT WAS LIKE I WAS
16:12 BEING RELIEVED OF ALL MY EARTHLY DUTIES, BUT THEN TO REALIZE I'M
16:18 BEING RELIEVED OF THE SPIRITUAL BURDEN TO THINK I HAD TO SAVE
16:23 MYSELF. EVEN THOUGH I'M TRYING TO COME
16:27 WITH THAT BLANK SLATE, MY DIFFICULTY IS UNDERSTANDING THE
16:30 CHARACTER OF GOD. I GREW UP BEING THOUGHT THAT THE
16:36 FATHER WAS JUST UP THERE WATCHING, READY TO ZAP YOU IF
16:40 YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. SO I HAD TO IDEA I HAD TO BE
16:47 PERFECT TO BELOVED BY THE FATHER.
16:49 I HAD A LOVE AFFAIR WITH JESUS. IT WASN'T UNTIL I GOT TO JESUS
16:56 1-3, JESUS THE EXACT EXPRESSION OF THE FATHER'S CHARACTER.
17:00 YOU KNOW, THE TWO SIDES OF THE COIN.
17:04 >> JOHN 10:30. >> YEAH, IT WAS, THEN THAT I
17:11 UNDERSTAND THAT GOD IS AS LOVING AS CHRIST IS AS LOVING, THAT HE
17:15 WAS AS PATIENT, THAT HE IS AS TENDER.
17:18 I WAS BOLD ENOUGH IN PRAYER TO SAY, HE WAS IMPRESSING ME WITH
17:23 THIS THOUGHT, IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
17:26 TO YOU, THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT ME, ASK ME.
17:29 YOU KNOW WHAT HE SAID? HOW COULD A GOD OF LOVE BURN
17:33 SOMEBODY FOREVER? AND GOD TOOK ME ON THIS WHOLE
17:38 STUDY OF HELL AND I LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT THE STATE OF THE
17:42 DEAD. I LEARNED THE TRUTH ABOUT HELL.
17:44 YOU KNOW, IT HELPED SO MUCH BEING ABLE TO STUDY WITH THE
17:48 GREEK AND HEBREW USING THE BIBLE SOFTWARE.
17:51 SO HERE, HE'S TEACHING ME ALL THESE THINGS.
17:54 I'M IN FULL-TIME MINISTRY. I'M THERE TEACHING THEM.
17:58 AND THEN HE WAS TEACHING ME WHEN I LEARNED THE IMPORTANCE OF
18:03 OBEDIENCE. YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY,
18:06 SALVATION BY GRACE, RIGHTEOUSNESS BY FAITH IS THE
18:09 ONLY KIND OF RIGHTEOUSNESS THERE IS.
18:14 ROMAN 6:16 TALKS ABOUT OBEDIENCE THAT LEADS TO RIGHTEOUSNESS.
18:21 IT'S INCUMBENT UPON ME TO UNDERSTAND THIS.
18:25 AND WHAT GOD WAS SHOWING ME, SEE, WAS SO INCREDIBLE BECAUSE I
18:31 LEARNED THAT HE EMPOWERS ME TO OBEY.
18:35 I OBEY BY GRACE. HE CHANGED MY WHOLE IDEA WHAT
18:38 GRACE IS. AS I UNDERSTOOD GRACE AND THE
18:43 THREE GREATEST GIFTS OF HIS GRACE, GRACE EMPOWERS US.
18:48 IT'S AN INCREDIBLE THING AND JESUS THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE WORD,
18:52 ARE HIS THREE GREATEST GIFTS OF GRACE.
18:54 THEY ARE WORKING IN OUR LIVES TO EMPOWER US, WHILE I'M OUT
19:00 PREACHING. AT THAT TIME, YOU WAS PREACHING
19:02 IN FIVE DIFFERENT CITIES. I'M OUT PREACHING THIS MESSAGE
19:06 WITH FERVOR, THAT WE OBEY BY GRACE.
19:09 ONE DAY WE COME IN AND THE LITTLE LOCAL DOWN LINK IN OUR
19:16 TOWN, IN CENTRAL TEXAS, LITTLE TOWN OF 5 THOUSAND WAS PURCHASED
19:23 BY THE ADVENTIST CHURCH. I WAS SO UPSET.
19:27 I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ADVENTIST, BUT I HAD A
19:32 MISCONCEPTION THAT ADVENTIST WAS CALLED.
19:36 IT WAS LATE EVENING, TURNING UP THE TV AND KENNETH COX WAS ON.
19:44 AND HE SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM WITH
19:47 OBEDIENCE. IT'S ALL BY FAITH.
19:49 I'M TEACHING OBEDIENCE BY GRACE AND IT'S OWE BEDIANS BY FAITH.
19:56 AND I TUNED IN. AND SOMEONE WAS TALKING ABOUT --
20:02 I THOUGHT, THEY MUST NOT BE ALL ADVENTIST.
20:05 I BEGAN TO WATCH AND THIS IS SOMETHING I PRAISED THE LORD FOR
20:11 3ABN BECAUSE I WAS CLUELESS WHEN IT CAME TO PROFESSY.
20:17 TOTALLY CLUELESS. I BEGGED THE LORD.
20:23 I GREW UP, NOT TO READ REVELATION.
20:30 AND THEN I READ, BLESSED WHO IS READING REVELATION.
20:34 I WAS BEGGING THE LORD. I WAS TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF
20:39 IT. LORD, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE THE
20:43 BOOKS OF ALL THESE DIFFERENT AUTHORS AND NO TWO PROPHETIC
20:47 BOOKS SAID THE SAME THING. I'M WATCHING 3ABN AND ALL OF A
20:52 SUDDEN, I FIND OUT THAT DANIEL UNLOCKS -- DANIEL UNLOCKS
21:00 REVELATION. SO NOW I'M BEGINNING TO
21:01 UNDERSTAND THIS AND THAT'S WHEN I SENT, I DRAINED MY MINISTRY
21:09 ACCOUNT. IT WAS $770.
21:10 IT WASN'T MUCH. I SENT IT TO 3ABN.
21:13 I SAID IN A LITTLE LETTER, I'M SENDING YOU THIS BECAUSE I FOUND
21:18 OUT IN WATCHING 3ABN, EVERYTHING GOD WAS TEACHING ME, ADVENTISTS
21:25 BELIEVED. SO I'M SENDING YOU THIS AND THAT
21:31 CANNING FOR YOUR MINISTRY. PRAY FOR ME.
21:34 THE LORD MAY BE CALLING ME INTO THIS CHURCH.
21:37 AND THEY PUBLISHED THE LETTER, NOT WITH MY NAME.
21:40 THE LOCAL PASTOR READ IT, CALLED UP HERE TO TRY TO GET THE
21:44 INFORMATION AND THEY TOLD THEM, I'M SORRY, CONFIDENTIALITY.
21:50 AND I'M A PASTOR. SHE'S SAYING, PRAY FOR ME.
21:53 THAT'S HOW I CAME INTO THE CHURCH.
21:55 >> IT'S WONDERFUL. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE LORD
21:58 -- YOU REALLY STUDIED YOURSELF IN.
22:04 AND JUST YOU AND THE WORD AND THE LORD.
22:08 AND THE IDEA, GRACE WAS NOT A STATIC ENTITY.
22:15 AND PHILLIPIANS 2. YOU'RE WORKING GOD'S WILL.
22:23 AND I WANT TO ASK, WHO CAME BACK, YOU OR J.D.?
22:28 J.D. HAD A FOUNDATION. >> I DID.
22:30 AND I JOINED THE CHURCH IN 2002. THE PASTOR'S NAME IS JIM GRAY.
22:37 PRECIOUS MAN OF GOD. WHEN HE CAME TO MY HOUSE THE
22:39 FIRST TIME, HE CALLED ME AND HE SAID, MRS. QUINN, THIS IS JIM
22:49 GRAIN. OH, PASTOR JIM GRAY?
22:53 >> UH-HUH. >> WELL, I COULD BE THERE IN 30
22:59 MINUTES. I DRILLED HIM FOR TWO HOURS.
23:00 HE CAME TO MY HOUSE. I WAS QUESTIONING HIM, HE
23:05 BELIEVED THE SAME THING I WAS SEEING AT 3ABN.
23:08 I STARTED GOING TO CHURCH IN NOVEMBER OF 2001.
23:12 IN 2002, HE ASKED ME, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE OUR CHURCH DO?
23:21 I SAID STEVE ALDER NAHN. AND I'M ON FIRE FOR THE LORD.
23:28 I'M TEACHING SABBATH SCHOOL. I'M NOT EVEN ADVENTIST.
23:32 I'M TEACHING SABBATH SCHOOL. ANYWAY, WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL
23:37 I JOINED THE CHURCH WAS THAT STEVE TOLD PASTOR JIM GRAVES,
23:42 YOU'VE GOT TO GET THIS WOMAN IN THE CHURCH.
23:44 YOU KNOW WHAT THE PASTOR TOLD HIM?
23:48 OH, NO, GOD HAS ALREADY TOLD ME. HANDS OFF.
23:52 HE'S BRINGING HER INTO THE CHURCH.
24:00 THAT NEARLY MAKES ME CRY WHEN I THINK ABOUT IT.
24:03 I WANTED TO BE SURE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE FOOLED ABOUT
24:08 ANYTHING. I CAME INTO THE CHURCH AND ON
24:12 JUNE THE 2nd OF 2002, J.D. CAME IN SIX MONTHS LATER, REBAPTIZED.
24:19 I DID THE SAME THING WITH HIM, THAT GOD HAD DONE.
24:23 I DIDN'T PUSH HIM. HE CAME IN SIX MONTHS LATER AND
24:27 IT'S INTERESTING ON JULY -- EXCUSE ME, ON DECEMBER THE 31st,
24:33 OF 2002, 6 MONTHS AFTER THAT, WE WERE AT 3ABN TO DO -- WE MET, I
24:41 MET DANNY AT ASI. THEY INVITED ME TO DO A LIVE ON
24:47 NEW YEAR'S EVE. IT WAS DECEMBER THE 31st.
24:50 WE DROVE IN. IT HAD SNOWED.
24:52 AS WE'RE COMING DOWN ANGEL LANE, I SAID TO J.D., JUST THINK, YOU
24:59 KNOW, DAVID SAID THAT ALL THE DAYS OF OUR LIFE WERE WRITTEN IN
25:03 HIS RECORD BOOK. GOD KNEW BEFORE WE WERE BORN, WE
25:06 WERE GOING TO BE HERE DECEMBER THE 31st OF 2002.
25:11 AND J.D. IS GOING, WOW, THAT'S HEAVY.
25:14 I'M TAKING TOO MUCH TIME >> I WANTED TO GET -- YOU WALKED
25:20 YOUR WAY IN. YOU DIDN'T STUDY ADVENTIST.
25:25 AND YOU WERE LOOKING FOR THE CHURCH THAT LINED UP WHAT GOD
25:30 WAS SHOWING YOU. FIRST OF ALL, YOU FOUND THE
25:33 MINISTRY IN THE CHURCH. IN ALL OF THE STUDYING.
25:40 >> AND THANK YOU. I HATE THAT TERM, ADVENTIST
25:45 DOCTRINE. IT'S BIBLE DOCTRINE THAT
25:48 ADVENTISTS HAVE ADHERED TO. >> AND IF YOU COULD FIND A
25:57 CHURCH, I'M HERE BECAUSE THIS FOLLOWS THE BIBLE.
26:01 I DON'T SEE ANY VARIANCE OF WHAT THE ADVENTIST CHURCH TEACHES.
26:08 IF I EVER DO, I WILL JOIN THAT CHURCH.
26:14 AND I THINK WE'LL GO TO OUR MUSIC.
26:16 THEN WE'LL WALK INTO THE SALVATION EXPERIENCE.
26:21 >> OUR. HE WANTS FOR US TO SING, I GIVE
26:31 ALL MY LIFE TO YOU. [ MUSIC ]
26:50 I GIVE ALL MY LIFE TO YOU ♪ I GIVE ALL MY SERVING TO YOU ♪
27:05 NO MATTER THE COST OR WHAT I DO, I GIVE ALL MY SERVICE TO YOU ♪
27:22 I GIVE ALL MY PROBLEMS TO YOU ♪ I GIVE ALL MY PROBLEMS THROUGH
27:34 YOU ♪ NO MATTER THE COST, OR WHAT
27:42 OTHERS DO ♪ I GIVE ALL MY PROBLEMS TO YOU ♪
27:54 I GIVE ALL MY FAMILY TO YOU ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FAMILY, LORD, TO
28:06 YOU ♪ NO MATTER THE COST OR WHAT
28:15 OTHERS DO ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FAMILY TO YOU ♪
28:34 I GIVE ALL MY FUTURE TO YOU ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FUTURE TO YOU,
28:45 LORD, TO YOU ♪ NO MATTER THE CALL OR WHAT
28:55 OTHERS DO ♪ I GIVE ALL MY FUTURE TO YOU ♪
29:10 I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO YOU ♪ I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO YOU ♪
29:25 NO MATTER THE CALL OR WHAT OTHERS DO ♪
29:35 I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO YOU ♪ I GIVE ALL MY WORSHIP TO YOU ♪
30:18 WELCOME. BEAUTIFUL SONG THAT I ACTUALLY
30:20 SING MYSELF. WELL DONE.
30:23 SHELLEY AND I WERE TALKING AND THERE WERE ROUGH PATCHES BECAUSE
30:27 SHE THOUGHT THE ADVENTIST CHURCH WAS A CULT BECAUSE SOME OF
30:31 PEOPLE SHE MET, GAVE HER A WRONG FLANK.
30:38 YOU HAVE TO DEFY YOURSELF ON YOUR LOVE FOR CHRIST, MOVE YOU
30:43 TO DO AND NOT WHAT YOU DO AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
30:49 >> IT SOUNDS STRANGE WHAT YOU SAID WHAT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF
30:52 THIS IS WHEN 3ABN CAME INTO OUR CITY.
30:57 NOT OUR TOWN, OUR VILLAGE, I SHOULD SAY.
31:01 IF I CAUGHT J.D. WATCHING 3ABN, I WOULD SPANK HIS HANDS AND
31:06 CHANGE THE CHANNEL. DON'T WATCH THAT CULT.
31:09 I REFUSED TO WATCH 3ABN BECAUSE I HAD A WRONG IDEA FROM WHAT
31:17 SOMEONE SAID WHO ADVENTIST WERE. >> AND THE CHURCH THROUGHOUT THE
31:21 HISTORY SORT OF WRESTLED WITH THAT LAW WORTH KIND OF THING AND
31:26 WE SORT OF MOVED THROUGH THAT. SOMETIMES WE PUT THE LAW AHEAD
31:31 OF JESUS CHRIST. THE WHOLE 1888 MOVEMENT WAS
31:35 TRYING TO REORIENT THAT CHRIST COMES FIRST.
31:39 IT'S ALL ABOUT CHRIST. IF YOU COULD KEEP THE LAWS
31:42 WITHOUT CHRIST, IT VALUES NOTHING.
31:44 IT'S ALL ABOUT JESUS CHRIST. I TOUCHED ON SHELLEY A LITTLE
31:50 BIT BEFORE THAT IT OCCURS TO ME THAT PART OF REPENTANCE IS
31:56 CONVICTION. CONVICTION IS A SENSE THAT
31:58 SOMETHING IS WRONG. I'M DOING THE WRONG THINGS.
32:01 I'M GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
32:03 WHAT I'VE BEEN TAUGHT IS WRONG. I'M CONVICTED THAT I NEED TO GO
32:07 ANOTHER WAY. AND IN LOOKING AT -- I GOT SOME
32:13 NOTES. THE WORD FOR REPENTANCE, IS
32:18 ELANGO. IT HAS IN IT, TRAIL OF MEANINGS,
32:21 CONVICTION. LORD IS TELLING ME THAT I NEED
32:23 TO MAKE A CHANGE. THE PROBLEM IS THIS.
32:27 MY DEAR MRS. QUINN. MANY TIMES WE CHRISTIANS STOP AT
32:33 CONVICTION. WE STOP AT SOMETHING IS WRONG
32:36 AND NEVER GET INTO THE JESUS WHO MAKES IT RIGHT.
32:39 YOU COULD TELL THOSE CHRISTIANS WHO ARE STUCK AT, SEE, KNOWING
32:43 THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG MAY MAKE YOU GO TO CHURCH.
32:47 AND THE OTHER DAY IS NOT RIGHT. SOME GO ON FRIDAY.
32:51 I KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG. WHAT ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT.
32:54 I'M BESIDES MYSELF IN TERMS OF WHAT NOT TO DO NOT IN WHAT I
32:59 SHOULD DO. THAT CONVICTION HAS TO GO INTO A
33:04 REPENTANCE/CONVERSION EXPERIENCE OR YOU'RE STUCK.
33:07 WHEN MY MOTHER FIRST CAME TO THE CHURCH, SHE CAME OUT WITH FEAR,
33:14 READ PREPARATION OF CRYINGS AND CONVICTION.
33:19 AND SHE HADN'T DEVELOP A LOVE FOR CHRIST.
33:22 THE FEAR HAD TO DISSOLVE INTO A LOVE FOR JESUS.
33:26 FIRST WE HAVE TO START SOMETHING IS WRONG AND THEN MOVE TO
33:29 SOMETHING RIGHT. THEN REPENTANCE MOVES IN THAT
33:33 EXPERIENCE. >> AND THE FIRST TWO TIMES I WAS
33:36 BAP BAPTIZED, I WAS MOTIVATED BY
33:42 FEAR. I WASN'T BAPTIZED EXACTLY RIGHT,
33:44 I WASN'T GOING TO HEAVEN. I HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED FOUR TIMES.
33:49 I JOINED THE ADVENTIST CHURCH BY PROFESSION OF FAITH.
33:53 YES, CONVICTION -- LET ME SHARE FIVE STEPS THE LORD GAVE ME FOR
33:57 REPENTANCE AS HE WAS TEACHING ME.
33:59 THE FIRST IS RECOGNITION OF SIN. >> UH-HUH.
34:03 >> I THINK WE HAVE TO SPEND TIME IN THE WORD.
34:07 AS I WAS IN THE WORD AND FALLING IN LOVE WITH JESUS AND
34:12 UNDERSTANDING HOW MUCH HE LOVED ME, THEN I WOULD FIND SOMETHING
34:16 IN THE WORD OF GOD AND I WOULD RECOGNIZE MY SIN.
34:21 THE HOLY SPIRIT WOULD CONVICT ME THAT I WAS NOT DOING SOMETHING
34:25 OR WAS DOING SOMETHING THAT I SHOULDN'T BE DOING OR WAS NOT
34:29 DOING SOMETHING. FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE SABBATH.
34:32 WHEN I FOUND OUT HOW BEAUTIFUL THE SABBATH WAS AND HOW
34:35 IMPORTANT IT WAS TO GOD AND TO MY OWN, MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH
34:44 GOD, I WAS VERY SORRY FOR THE YEARS I SLANDERED GOD'S HOLY
34:49 DAY. YES, RECOGNITION OF SIN IS
34:52 DEFINITELY THE FIRST. AND I THINK THE SECOND STEP IS
34:58 GODLY SORROW THAT CAUSES US TO REGRET.
35:01 YOU COULD RECOGNIZE YOU'RE SINNING BUT IF YOU DON'T GO
35:04 BEFORE THE LORD AND PRAY ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS
35:10 THAT IN 2 CORINTHIANS 7:10 GODLY SORROW PRODUCES REPENTANCE
35:18 LEADING TO SALVATION. NOT TO BE REGRETTED BUT THE
35:20 SORROW OF THE WORLD PRODUCES DEATH.
35:23 IT IS THE KINDNESS OF GOD, THE BIBLE SAYS, THAT LEADS US TO
35:28 REPENTANCE. ONCE YOU RECOGNIZE YOUR SIN, THE
35:32 CONVICTION ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE IS IN BRINGING THAT GODLY
35:37 SORROW. IT'S SOMETHING, LIKE YOU SAID,
35:39 THERE'S PEOPLE WHO KNOW THEY ARE SINNING.
35:40 THEY GO TO CHURCH AND THEY NEVER REALLY GET SORROW OVER IT,
35:44 BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LOVE OF THE LORD.
35:48 THE 3RD THING IS THAT WHEN THAT GODLY SORROW IS IN OUR HEARTS,
35:53 WHEN THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MOVING UPON OUR HEART, THAT WE HAVE TO,
35:59 IT KIND OF ALTERS THE ATTITUDE THAT WE HAVE ABOUT IT AND THEN
36:05 WE CONFESSED OUR SINS. THAT'S THE 3RD STEP OF
36:12 REPENTANCE, TO CONFESS YOUR SINS.
36:14 WE LOVE THE PROMISE OF JOHN 8:9. >> WALK BACK, GIVE US YOUR FIRST
36:25 STEP? >> RECOGNITION.
36:26 >> AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE WORD.
36:30 AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE TALKING, IF YOU DON'T STUDY THE WORD, BY
36:34 THE LAW IT'S THE KNOWLEDGE OF SIN.
36:36 I'M USING LAW IN THE WIDEST CONTENTS.
36:41 YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DEFINE SIN WITHOUT THE WORD.
36:45 SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE WORD. ONE, TO DEFINE SIN.
36:49 AND IF YOU'RE NOT READING THE WORD, YOU DON'T KNOW THE
36:52 PROMISES TO CLAIM. YOU DON'T HAVE THE PIN NUMBER TO
36:55 CASH YOUR CHECK UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE WORD.
36:58 REALLY FOUNDATIONAL TO YOUR EXPERIENCE.
37:02 I FEEL BAD ABOUT WHAT I'M DOING BUT I HAVE TO GO TO THE WORD TO
37:06 HOW TO GET OUT OF THE HOLE I'M IN.
37:08 WITHOUT THAT, YOU DON'T HAVE A LADDER, A ROPE TO PULL YOURSELF
37:12 UP BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT GOD REQUIRES OF YOU AND HOW YOU
37:17 COULD ORIENT YOURSELF TO PLEASE HIM.
37:19 >> I DID A STUDY ON SIN. >> OF COURSE, WE KNOW FIRST
37:29 JOHN, WHOEVER COMMITS SIN COMMITMENTS LAWLESSNESS.
37:36 AND JOHN 4:17. TO THOSE WHO DO IT TO HIM.
37:43 TO SIN MEANS, ONE DEFINITION IS TO MISS THE MARK OF GOD'S
37:49 RIGHTEOUS REQUIREMENT. >> UH-HUH.
37:51 >> THERE'S THE OMISSION, WHATEVER IS NOT OF FACE, IS SIN.
37:58 >> IS SIN. >> AND THEN TO TRESPASS,
38:05 PROVERBS 7:4:9. NAUGHTY LITTLE JOKES IS SIN.
38:09 AND OF COURSE, WE KNOW TO COMMIT INEQUITE.
38:17 THIS ONE CONVICTS YOU. THIS ONE GOT YOU.
38:20 ONE OF THE DEFINITIONS OF SIN IS TO BE UNRIGHTEOUS, WHICH MEANS
38:26 ANY DEAFATION FROM GOD'S -- DEVATION FROM GOD'S CHARACTER.
38:36 WHEN YOU THINK JOHN 1:17, ANYWHERE I DEVIATE FROM GOD'S
38:46 LOVE, ESSENCE OF HIS LOVE, WHEN I DO SOMETHING OF A SELFISH
38:50 MOTIVATION OR IF I HURT SOMEONE'S FEELINGS, DOING
38:54 SOMETHING, I'M SINNING. >> OH, YEAH.
38:56 >> THAT WILL BRING YOU. WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT SIN IS,
38:59 AS YOU SAID, WHEN YOU GET IN THE WORD AND YOU ARE READING THIS,
39:03 THERE'S SO MANY THINGS I DID IN MY LIFE, I HAD NO IDEA THEY WERE
39:08 SIN. ONCE I WAS IN THE WORD STUDYING
39:10 IT, YOU RECOGNIZE IT, THE HOLY SPIRIT BRINGS THE CONVICTION,
39:16 THE GODLY SORROW. LORD, I AM SO SORRY, I DIDN'T
39:20 KNOW. THAT'S WHEN YOU CONFESS YOUR
39:26 SIN. AND WE SHOULD NEVER BECOME
39:28 CALLUS TO CONFESSION. SOME PEOPLE SAY, LORD FORGIVE ME
39:33 FOR ALL MY SINS. >> NO, YOU WANT TO BE SPECIFIC.
39:36 >> IT'S LIKE, LORD, I RECOGNIZE THIS IS SIN.
39:39 FORGIVE ME FOR DOING THIS PLEASE. AND THE GOOD THING
39:44 ABOUT CONFESSION, IT'S THE CLEARING HOUSE OF OUR CONSCIOUS.
39:51 HALLELUJAH. >> AND PROVERB 28:13.
39:55 AND SATAN IS ACCUSING YOU OF -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SEPARATION
40:02 OF WHAT YOU ARE AND WHAT GOD DEMANDS, YOU CAN DEPRESS YOU AND
40:08 MAKE YOURS TURN AWAY. UNTIL YOU REALIZE, HE LOVES YOU
40:13 WITH AN EVER LASTING LOVE AND THERE'S NO CONDEMNATION.
40:18 THE HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT TRYING TO SAY, BAD, BAD, BAD, SHELLEY,
40:23 BAD. THIS IS YOUR CONVICTION.
40:25 THIS IS HOW GOD DESIRES. THIS IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO
40:28 BRING INTO THAT. YOU ARE NOT TO RUN AWAY AND
40:31 HIDE. YOU ARE TO CONFESS, GOD WILL
40:32 HAVE MERCY ON YOU. >> AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE A
40:36 TEACHING IN THE FIVE STEPS, THE JOY OF REPENTANCE.
40:40 PEOPLE ARE LIKE, THE JOY OF REPENTANCE.
40:43 AND EVEN WHEN I LEARN SOMETHING THAT I FIND OUT I'M DOING WRONG,
40:50 YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETIMES WE KNOW THINGS AND OUR HEART KIND
40:54 OF CONDEMNS US AND WE DON'T HAVE CONFIDENT TOWARDS GOD.
40:59 IN 1st JOHN 3:21. IF YOUR HEART DOESN'T CONDEMN
41:05 YOU, YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE BEFORE GOD.
41:07 THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF CONFESSION AND CLEARING IT AWAY AND JUST
41:13 KNOW THAT HE IS FAITHFUL AND JUST TO FORGIVE US OF ALL OUR
41:18 SINS. >> I WANTED YOU TO SORT OF RERUN
41:23 THAT CONTINUEM OF STEPS. BECAUSE YOU REALLY HAVE TO KNOW
41:29 WHO JESUS IS TO UNDERSTAND HIS LOVE.
41:31 YOU CAME OUT OF THE SYSTEM, GOD WAS LIKE, GOD IS GOING TO GET
41:35 YOU. YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN TO A GOD
41:38 THAT WILL PUT A SMACK ON YOU. WHEN YOU COME TO AN
41:43 UNDERSTANDING, HE COMETH TO ME, I WILL NOWISE CAST OUT.
41:48 YOU COULD COME WITH ALL YOUR DIRT, AND WITH TRUE REPENTANCE,
41:52 UP WITH, YOUR SIN IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE UNIVERSE.
41:56 GOD SEEN IT BEFORE. HE'S FORGIVEN IT BEFORE.
42:00 AS HE FORGIVES IT OTHER TIMES. I'M STUDYING ABRAHAM AGAIN THIS
42:08 WEEK. WHO WE REVERE AS FATHER OF THE
42:14 FAITHFUL. ABRAHAM IS FATHER OF TRUTH.
42:17 EVERY TIME WE GOT ASIDE, WE LIE. >> WE CALLED IT --
42:21 >> AND THERAPEUTIC LIE. >> HE WOULD JUST LIE.
42:26 BEFORE GOD COULD USE HIM. BEFORE GOD COULD MAKE HIM FATHER
42:30 OF MANY NATIONS, HE HAS TO TEST HIM.
42:33 YOU HAVE A GLITCH IN YOUR GAME. GOD WILL DO THAT, TOO.
42:36 NOT TO WEAR YOU OUT. NOT TO DESTROY YOU.
42:39 YOU NEED TO BE TESTING. THE ONLY WAY YOU HAVE FAITH IS
42:42 TO GET IT TESTED. WHEN YOU COME IN REPENTANCE,
42:48 UNDERSTANDING WHO GOD IS, YOU CAN COME HUMBLY AND JOYFULLY.
42:53 YOU KNOW YOU WILL NOT BE CAST OUT.
42:57 CHRIST SAYS, WHERE ARE MY ACCUSERS.
43:01 CONDEMN YOU. GO AND SIN NO MORE.
43:07 IT MAKES IT PLEASANT. >> LET ME TAKE A SIDE BAR AND
43:10 SAY THIS. I GREW UP IN A NEW TESTAMENT
43:13 CHURCH BUT IT WAS LEGALISTIC. IT WAS, I HAD TO BE PERFECT TO
43:17 BE LOVED. AT HOME, THAT WAS VERY MUCH
43:21 REINFORCED. I HAD TO BE PERFECT TO BE LOVED.
43:24 WHEREAS MY SISTER, WAS AN EXCEPTION.
43:26 SHE WAS A SPOILED ROTTEN LITTLE BRAT AND GOT AWAY WITH
43:32 EVERYTHING. FOR ME, IT WAS REINFORCED AND IT
43:35 WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DEEPLY INGRAINED IN ME.
43:40 I WENT FROM WORKS, SALVATION BY WORKS, INTO A NONDENOMINATIONAL
43:50 ARENA. I NEVER HEARD ABOUT GRACE
43:53 REALLY. I READ THE BIBLE, NEW TESTAMENT
43:57 BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW I MISSED IT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND GRACE.
44:02 I WENT INTO A NONDENOMINATIONAL ARENA, WHERE GRACE IS ALMOST,
44:07 THERE'S NOTHING YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BECAUSE GRACE.
44:11 IT WAS LIKE, IF YOU TALKED ABOUT OBEDIENCE, YOU ARE BEING
44:17 LEGALISTIC. AND WHEN GOD -- WHEN I REALLY
44:20 STARTED STUDYING THE BIBLE AND UNDERSTOOD THE RELATIONSHIP, I
44:23 WANT TO SHARE THIS ONE THING AND I WANT TO SHARE THIS WITH YOU AT
44:27 HOME. IT'S SO PRECIOUS.
44:29 THE GRACE, I WAS PRAYING AND FOR THE LORD TO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE,
44:37 NOT AN EXAMPLE -- BUT SOMETHING -- AN ILLUSTRATION OF
44:46 WHAT GRACE IS. AND HERE'S WHAT HE GAVE ME, THAT
44:50 GOD'S LOVE -- I MEAN HIS HEART OVERFLOWS WITH LOVE FOR YOU.
44:55 YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE SAYS GOD IS LOVE.
44:59 THAT'S THE ESSENCE OF HIS NATURE.
45:02 HIS HEART OVERFLOWS WITH LOVE FOR YOU SO MUCH SO THAT HE SENT
45:06 HIS SON TO DIE FOR YOU YET YOU'RE SINNERS.
45:09 AND GOD IS NOT HOLDING BACK WELL, BEING -- WELL, AS THIS
45:17 WELLS OVER, THIS LOVE, IT COMES THROUGH THE GRACE PIPELINE.
45:21 AND EVERYTHING IS BY GRACE. WE'RE SAVED BY GRACE.
45:26 WE OBEY BY GRACE AND EVERYTHING IS BY GRACE.
45:32 FAITH IS THE FAUCET. PRAYER IS THE HANDLE THAT OPENS
45:36 THE FAUCET. THE PRAYER OF FAITH, WHAT IS THE
45:40 FOUNDATION OF THAT? TRUST.
45:41 YOU HAVE TO TRUST IN THE LORD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, LEAN NOT IN
45:46 YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING. THE FOUNDATION OF TRUST IS THE
45:50 RELATIONSHIP, THE FOUNDATION FOR RELATIONSHIP IS LOVE?
45:55 >> SO WE ONLY LOVE HIM BECAUSE HE FIRST LOVED US.
46:00 AS WE UNDERSTANDS THAT, THEN OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD GET
46:07 MORE INTIMATE. THEN YOUR TRUST GETS GREATER.
46:10 THEN YOUR PRAYER AND FAITH GETS GREATER.
46:13 THEN YOU TAP ON ALL OF HIS AREAS OF GRACE.
46:17 WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND GOD LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WHEN PAUL SAID,
46:21 IS IT ROMANS 8:32, HE WHO DIDN'T SPARE HIS OWN SON, HOW MUCH MORE
46:28 WOULD HE GIVE US NOW? SO WHEN I UNDERSTOOD GOD THAT
46:35 WAY, IT MADE REPENTANCE A JOY. I WANTED TO COME TO HIM.
46:40 I WANTED TO GET CLEANED UP. >> AND I'M IN JOHN 14
46:51 >> IF LOVE ME, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.
46:54 WE LOOK AT THE PATTERN, IF YOU LOVE ME, THEN YOU KEEP.
46:59 I WILL PRAY THE FATHER AND HE WILL SEND YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER,
47:04 ANOTHER HELPER, HE MAY ABIDE WITH YOU FOREVER, EVEN THE
47:10 SPIRIT OF TRUTH. LOOK HOW THE -- WE'RE STILL IN
47:14 COMMANDMENT KEEPING. IT'S A CONSEQUENCE OF LOVE.
47:23 WHEN YOU SERVE HIM OUT OF LOVE, HE'S GOING TO SEND YOU THE HOLY
47:27 SPIRIT. IT'S NOT YOUR WORK.
47:28 IT'S NOT YOUR INITIATIVE. IT'S A DETERMINATION IN YOUR
47:32 MIND, LORD, I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU.
47:34 I WILL SEND YOU A HELPER TO DO JUST THAT.
47:39 IT'S NOT LEGALISM. IT'S JUST WALKING IN THE WILL OF
47:41 THE WAY AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE IS TO PUT IT IN GRACE PIPELINE,
47:46 YOU'VE GOTTEN THE SHOWER AND YOU'VE TURNED ON THE FAUCET AND
47:54 THE WATER IS WORKING ON YOU NOW. YOU'RE NOT WORKING ON YOUR OWN
47:59 STRENGTH. THE GRACE OF GOD IS WORKING
48:01 THROUGH YOU, AND FOR YOU SO OBEDIENCE IS A NATURAL
48:05 CONSEQUENCE OF泠YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
48:08 >> WE DON'T OBEY TO BE SAVED BUT WE OBEY BECAUSE WE'RE SAVED.
48:16 >> WHOEVER IS SPEAKING, PETER IS SPEAKING.
48:21 HE SAYS, WE'RE HIS WITNESSES TO THESE THINGS AND SO IS THE HOLY
48:26 SPIRIT WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM.
48:35 WE CAN ONLY BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT TO A DEGREE.
48:39 BEAUTY OF THE OBEDIENCE. WE DON'T OBEY TO BE SAVED.
48:43 WE OBEY BECAUSE WE LOVE HIM, WE WANT TO KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS
48:47 AND WANT TO PLEASE HIM. AS WE OBEY, WE GET MORE PRESSED
48:51 OUT OF US AND YOU COULD BE FILLED MORE WITH THE HOLY
48:57 SPISPIRIT >> WHY SHOULD WE FEAR OBEDOBEDIENCE?
49:09 >> HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN MARRIED?
49:11 >> ALMOST 30 YEARS. >> AND YOU SAID IN YOUR LIFE, I
49:19 LOVE THIS MAN, I WILL OBEY HIM. >> WHEN YOU LOVE, WHEN IT'S
49:25 THERE, OBEDIENCE IS AN NATURAL -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO
49:30 WALK AROUND WITH YOU WITH A STUNNED GUN.
49:38 HE TRUSTS YOU BECAUSE OF THE LOVE-RELATIONSHIP.
49:42 >> SOME WOMEN HAVE A LOT OF TROUBLE WITH THE IDEA OF BEING
49:56 SUBMISSIVE. J.D. LOVES ME.
49:59 HE WANTS WHAT'S BEST FOR ME. HE'S NOT STANDING OVER ME, YOU
50:03 CAN'T DO THIS, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
50:06 HE'S TRYING TO -- EXPAND MY HORIZONS AND SO -- IT'S SO EASY.
50:12 HE'S LIKE JESUS. YES SUS GIVES US A POWER OF --
50:16 JESUS GIVES US A POWER OF CHOICE.
50:20 THE LORD IS, ALL HE WANTS IS THE BEST.
50:23 HE'S INTERESTED IN OUR ETERNAL BENEFIT.
50:26 WHEN A MAN IS LIKE THAT, WHEN HE LOVES A WIFE LIKE CHRIST LOVES
50:33 THE CHURCH, IT'S EASY TO BE SUBMISSIVE.
50:38 >> THE LORD IS NOT TRYING TO CUT OUT YOUR FUN, HE KNOWS THE ENDS
50:45 OF HEART IS DEATH. >> AND IF YOU GET THAT CLEAN
50:50 HEART, YOUR TASTES DO CHANGE. YOUR MIND-SET DOES CHANGE.
50:53 YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD DOES CHANGE.
50:55 IT PLAYS ITSELF OUT IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE WORLD AND
51:00 THE WORLD AROUND YOU. PEOPLE WILL BEGIN TO SEE THAT IN
51:03 EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. AND IT'S A WONDERFUL GODLY
51:09 EXPERIENCE. >> I WANT TO ADD THESE LAST TWO
51:12 STEPS. IN CASE SOMEONE CAN'T WATCH THE
51:14 SECOND HOUR. ONCE YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED YOUR
51:17 SIN GODLY SORROW, HOLY SPIRIT HAS LED YOU TO GODLY SORROW,
51:26 THEN WE CONFESS OUR SINS. THE NEXT STEP IS SO IMPORTANT.
51:31 WE MUST RECEIVE GOD'S FORGIVENESS.
51:34 THERE'S PEOPLE, I'M SURE YOU TALK TO THEM WHEN THEY CALL,
51:37 PEOPLE WHO FEEL THAT THEY'VE CONFESSED THE SAME SIN OVER AND
51:41 OVER FOR 30 YEAR, 40 YEARS. IT'S LIKE, I TALKED TO ONE LADY,
51:46 SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT SHE WAS STILL -- I HAD AN ABORTION
51:52 40 YEARS AGO. SHE HAD ASKED GOD FOR
51:56 FORGIVENESS EVERY DAY OF HER LIFE AFTERWARDS.
52:00 SHE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT GOD HAD FORGIVEN HER.
52:05 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ONCE WE'VE CONFESSED, THAT WE OPEN OUR
52:10 HEARTS AND ACCEPT THAT. HE SAID, COME NOW IN ISAIAH
52:14 1:18. COME NOW AND LET US REASON
52:17 TOGETHER, SAYS THE LORD. YOUR SINS ARE LIKE CLOTH, THEY
52:24 ARE WHITE AS SNOW. IF YOU WANT TO REPENT, GO TO
52:28 PSALM 51. THIS IS AFTER HE SINNED WITH
52:35 BASHEBA. HE HAD URIA SENT TO THE FRONT
52:40 LINE TO BE KILLED. WASH ME OF MY EQUITE.
52:44 WASH ME AND I SHOULD BE WHITER THAN SNOW.
52:49 AND WHAT I LOVE 1 KING 14:8. IN 1 KING 14:18, THE AUTHOR IS
53:00 QUOTING GOD. HE SAYS, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN AS MY
53:04 SERVANT, DAVID, WHO KEPT MY COMMANDMENTS AND FOLLOWED ME
53:07 WITH ALL OF HIS HEART TO DO ONLY WHAT IS RIGHT IN MY EYES.
53:11 THIS IS AFTER DAVID'S DEATH. BUT GOD IS SAYING, HE'S KEPT ALL
53:15 MY COMMANDMENTS. HE DID ONLY WHAT WAS RIGHT.
53:20 GOD CANNOT LIE. WHAT HE IS SAYING, AS FAR AS THE
53:24 EAST IS FROM THE WEST, SO FAR HAS HE CAST OR REMOVED OUR
53:30 TRANSGRESSION. IT SHOWS US THAT GOD FORGETS
53:32 WHAT WE ASK HIM TO FORGIVE. SO THERE'S SO MANY.
53:39 IN HEBREWS 8, 10:12, HE WILL WRITE HIS LINES IN MY HEART.
53:48 AND IN LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL NOT. BUT HERE'S THE MOST IMPORTANT
53:53 POINT. AND LET ME GET IT IN, IN THE
53:55 NEXT COUPLE OF MINUTES. REPENTANCE IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL
54:02 YOU ACCEPT GOD'S POWER TO CHANGE YOUR CONDUCT.
54:06 TO REPENT LITERALLY MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO DO A U-TURN.
54:11 YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE TURN BACK TOWARD GOD.
54:14 AND HE GIVES US THE POWER. THIS REPRESENTS SANCTFICICATION.
54:33 GOD HAS EXHALTED FROM HIS RIGHT HAND, TO GIVE REPENTANCE.
54:40 TO GRANT REPENTANCE TO ISRAEL AND FORGIVENESS OF SINS.
54:44 WHEN YOU ARE REPENTING, ONE THING I'VE DONE AND AFTER I'VE
54:49 CONFESSED OR RECEIVED, I ALWAYS SAY, LORD, GRANT ME REPENTANCE.
54:53 GIVE ME THE POWER TO TURN AWAY FROM THIS.
54:58 CREATE IN ME A CLEAN HEART, RENEW A STEADFAST SPIRIT IN ME.
55:02 THE BIBLE SAYS, PAUL WROTE IN ROMANS 8:13.
55:08 LOVE THIS SCRIPTURE, 8:13. IF YOU LIVE ACCORDING TO THE
55:12 FLESH, YOU WILL DIE. AND IF BY THE SPIRIT, YOU PUT
55:17 THE DEEDS THE BODY, YOU WILL LIVE.
55:22 >> YOU BEAT ME TO IT. >> THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
55:26 WE CAN'T CHANGE BY OUR OWN POWER.
55:28 THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL NOT FORCE US TO CHANGE.
55:32 WE HAVE TO WORK IN TANDEM. WE MUST COOPERATE WITH THE HOLY
55:37 SPIRIT. >> YOU HAVE TO LET YOURSELF GO
55:40 ALSO. YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE IN CHRIST
55:41 WITH THE POWER TO CHANGE, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T NECESSARILY
55:44 FEEL IT. WE'RE BACKING UP IN ROMANS 8.
55:49 I WANT TO READ THE THREE VERSUS. THIS IS 8:1.
55:54 THERE IS NOW THEREFORE NOW NO CONDEMNATION TO THOSE WHO ARE IN
55:58 CHRIST JESUS. ONCE YOU ACCEPT HIM, HE'S NOT
56:01 SHAKING HIS FINGER ANYMORE. HE'S NOT POINTING HIS FINGER.
56:05 HE'S NOT CONDEMNING YOU. THAT'S THE TRICK OF THE ENEMY,
56:09 YOU CAN'T GO TO GOD WITH THE SIN.
56:11 YOU CAN'T DO THAT AGAIN. HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE THAT OR
56:14 HEAR YOU. THERE'S NO CONDEMNATION IN
56:18 CHRIST JESUS. IN CHRIST JESUS, WHO WILL NOT
56:22 WALK ACCORDING TO THE FLESH. A NEW SPIRIT IS TAKING POWER,
56:26 PRESENCE IN YOUR LIFE AND CHANGING WHO YOU ARE AND HOW GOD
56:31 VIEWS YOU. FOR THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF
56:34 LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS IS -- HAS MADE ME FREE OF THE LAW OF SIN
56:39 AND DEATH. FOR THE LAW CANNOT DO, THAT IS
56:43 WEAK FROM THE FLESH. GOD DID BY SENDING HIS OWN SON
56:47 IN THE LIKENESS OF SINFUL FLESH. HE CONDEMNED SIN IN THE FLESH.
56:52 IT'S NOT YOU, ANYMORE. TRUST GOD THAT HE COULD DO WHAT
56:56 HE SAYS HE COULD DO, EVEN THOUGH YOU DO NOT FEEL IT.
57:00 EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT EXPERIENCING IT JUST NOW IN YOUR
57:03 MIND. EXPERIENCE IT IN YOUR HEART AND
57:07 BELIEVE IT IN YOUR HEART. THE FIRST THING YOU HAVE TO DO,
57:12 AND ONCE HE'S CONVICTED SOMETHING IS WRONG, GET INTO THE
57:17 WORD. BECAUSE THE WORD WILL FREE YOU
57:19 FROM CONDEMNATION AND REPENTANCE HAS ITS ULTIMATE EXPRESSION IN
57:25 CONVERSION, IN TURNING AWAY FROM SIN AND THE ABILITY TO TURN AWAY
57:29 IS A GIFT SHELLEY SAID, GRANTED TO YOU BY GOD WHO IS WAITING TO
57:34 GIVE YOU THAT GOOD GIFT EVEN MORE YOU ARE GOING TO ASK FOR
57:38 THE GOOD GIFT. >> REPENTANCE IS IN THE GIFT AS
57:42 LONG AS YOU TURN AROUND. >> HOPEFULLY IT'S AS EXCITING
57:47 FOR YOU AS IT IS FOR US. WE'LL BE BACK IN TWO MINUTES, 2
57:52 SECONDS. YOU, YOU STAY BY.


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