MOLLIE YOU'LL HAVE TO TAKE
THIS. >> THANK YOU ALSO FOR THE
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LETTERS THAT YOU
HAVE ALREADY SENT IN.
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SO, JUST GO RIGHT AHEAD
AND CONTINUE SENDING IN YOUR
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QUESTIONS AND WE HAVE A QUESTION
FOR HEATHER-DAWN AND I'M GOING
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TO READ IT. >> YOU
MIGHT WANT TO INTRODUCE
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THAT ONE. WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT DEALING WITH
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LIFE'S PAINS AND OUR SPECIAL
GUEST IS HEATHER-DAWN SMALL WHO
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IS THE WOMEN'S MINISTRIES
DIRECTOR FOR THE GENERAL
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CONFERENCE OF THE 7TH DAY
ADVENTIST CHURCH AND WE HAD A
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WONDERFUL FIRST
HOUR. >> YES, WE DID.
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>> SO GOOD IT
CHOKED ME UP. [LAUGHTER]
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>> AND NOW, GO AHEAD
AND READ THIS QUESTION.
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>> SO, HEATHER, THIS LADY SAYS,
BERNICE SAYS, I LOST MY HUSBAND
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ONE DAY AFTER MY 60TH BIRTHDAY.
SIX MONTHS AGO AND I ALSO LOST
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MY JOB THREE MONTHS BEFORE THAT.
I HAVE BEEN NOMINATED TO BE THE
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WOMEN'S MINISTRY LEADER AT MY
CHURCH AND I AM WONDERING IF I
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SHOULD MAINTAIN THE POSITION OR
RESIGN FOR NOW TO GO THROUGH THE
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GRIEVING PROCESS? WHAT
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR
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HER? WHAT WOULD
BE YOUR COUNSEL IN
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THIS? >> ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT WE
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WOMEN ARE VERY GOOD AT IS
GETTING BUSY TO HELP US SO WE
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DON'T HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT THINGS.
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I WOULD ADVISE THIS DEAR
SISTER TAKE THE TIME SHE NEEDS.
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TAKE THE TIME SHE NEEDS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN SHE'LL PULL
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BACK INTO HER LITTLE PLACE AND
NOT COMMUNICATE WITH ANYONE AND
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JUST SUFFER ALONE, BUT TRYING
TO DO BOTH THINGS IS GOING TO BE
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REALLY DIFFICULT FOR HER.
SHE NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE
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GRIEVING PROCESS. SHE
NEEDS TO MAKE SURE HER
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RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD IS
GOING RIGHT AND IS STRONG.
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YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHEN YOU
GO THROUGH THESE THINGS AND YOU
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HAVE THESE DOUBT AND
QUESTIONING AND WONDERING.
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I THINK SHE NEEDS
TO TAKE SOME TIME.
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>> I COULD SPEAK
TO BERNICE PERSONALLY.
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I LOST MY SISTER IN
2014, VERY UNEXPECTEDLY.
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SHE WAS LIKE MY BABY, IF
YOU WILL, AND I DID NOT TAKE THE
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TIME " -- I TOOK OFF A WEEK TO
HANDLE THE FUNERAL OF THE BUT I
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JUMPED RIGHT BACK INTO
MINISTRY AND INTO LIFE AND JUST
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EVERYTHING'S BEEN
GOING VERY RAPIDLY.
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AND BERNICE, WHAT HAPPENED TO ME
IS ABOUT JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO,
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ONE DAY I WOKE UP AND RECOGNIZED
I'M JUST FEELING NUMB.
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AND I THOUGHT
WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME, LORD?
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SUDDENLY I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE
DOING MY DEVOTIONALS OR PRAYING
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AND MY PRAYERS WERE GETTING
SHORTER AND THEN I STARTED
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EATING CRAZY AND DOING
ALL THESE FUNNY THINGS.
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AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE
TO RECOGNIZE THAT YOU KNOW,
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SOMETHING TRIGGERED IT WHERE
THE PAIN STARTED COMING OUT.
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AND IT WASN'T JUST THE PAIN OF
MY SISTER'S DEATH BUT BECAUSE OF
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EVERYTHING THAT WAS ASSOCIATED
IN OUR LIVES TOGETHER, SUDDENLY
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I REVISITED SOME OTHER PAINFUL
EXPERIENCES AND I REALIZED,
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LORD, I JUST DIDN'T
GRIEVE. I DIDN'T GET THIS OUT.
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SO, I JUST WANT
TO ENCOURAGE YOU.
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AS YOU SAID, WE'RE
GOOD AT STUFFING THINGS.
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WE'RE GOOD AT HIDING THINGS AND
GETTING BUSY BUT IT'S GOING TO
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COME OUT ONE WAY OR
ANOTHER SOONER OR LATER.
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>> LET ME ASK ONE MORE QUESTION
AND THEN I KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT
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OF MATERIAL,
WONDERFUL MATERIAL TO COVER.
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THIS ONE TOUCHES MY HEART.
SHE SAYS, WHAT IS THE ROLE OF
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ELDERLY WOMEN IN OUR CHURCH
WHO ARE IN THEIR SEVENTIES?
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YOU'RE NOT TOO
OLD. 70 IS NOT TOO OLD.
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AND STILL THERE IS NO ROLE
FOR THEM DUE TO THEIR AGE AND
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DECLINING HEALTH.
THAT IS THE VERY SERIOUS
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QUESTION. I FEEL
LIKE THIS COMES FROM
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JUDITH'S HEART. SO,
WHAT WOULD YOU SPEAK TO HER?
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>> ONE OF THE SIX ISSUES WHICH
I MENTIONED BEFORE WAS LACK OF
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EDUCATION AND MENTORING. I
REALLY BELIEVE THAT WOMEN HAVE
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KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE
THAT THEY CAN PASS ON TO YOUNGER
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WOMAN AND I DON'T
THINK WE SHOULD LET THAT GO.
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IF EVERY CHURCH HAD A MENTORING
PROGRAM, NOT JUST FOR THE YOUNG
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WOMEN BUT FOR THE YOUNG MEN
TOO WHERE WE CONNECT OUR YOUNGER
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WOMEN WITH AN OLDER LADY WITH
THE CHURCH TO VISIT THEM OR CALL
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THEM ON THE PHONE SO MUCH
INFORMATION CAN PASS ON BETWEEN
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THOSE TWO. PAUL
SAID, LET THE OLDER WOMEN
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TEACH THE YOUNGER WOMAN.
THERE IS SO MUCH WE CAN LEARN
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FROM THEM. SO
FEELING USELESS, NO, NO, NO,
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NO. WE NEED TO
GET ALL WE CAN GET
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OUT OF YOU AT THIS TIME BECAUSE
OF WHAT YOU HAVE GONE THROUGH IN
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LIFE. >> AMEN.
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>> RECENTLY WE WATCHED A MOVIE,
THE NAME OF THE MOVIE WAS "THE
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WAR ROOM." HAVE YOU SEEN IT?
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>> YES, I HAVE >> IN
IT AND IT IS AN INCREDIBLY
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GOOD CHRISTIAN MOVIE THAT I
WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE TO WATCH.
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IN IT THIS OLDER WOMAN WAS
PRAYING AND ASKING THE LORD FOR
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A YOUNGER WOMAN THAT SHE COULD
MENTOR AND SHE COULD PASS ON
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WHAT THE LORD HAS
TAUGHT HER AND SHOWN HER.
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AND OF COURSE IN THE MOVIE
SHE FINDS THIS WOMAN AND THIS
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WOMAN'S GOT A LITTLE 7 OR
8-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AND YOU SEE
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THE LITTLE CHILD
START IMITATING THE MOTHER.
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IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL EXPRESSION
OF PASSING ON THOSE GIFTS THAT
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GOD HAS IMPARTED
TO THE OLDER WOMAN.
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SO THERE IS SO MUCH. AND
YOU AS AN OLDER LADY, YOU
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NEED A YOUNGER FRIEND
ANYWAY. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> SOMEONE TO PUT THAT INTO.
>> AND THAT GOES FOR ALL OF US.
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>> WE ALL NEED TO FIND OURSELVES
MENTORING SOMEONE YOUNGER THAN
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US AS WE GO THROUGH
LIFE. >> ABSOLUTELY.
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>> YOU AND KNOW, I JUST WANT
TO GIVE JUDITH A PROMISE OF THE
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LORD FROM PSALM
92 VERSE 13 AND 14.
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WHAT THE PSALM SAYS HERE, HERE
IS THOSE WHO ARE PLANTED IN THE
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HOUSE OF THE LORD SHALL FLOURISH
IN THE COURTS OF OUR GOD.
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THEY SHALL STILL BEAR FRUIT IN
OLD AGE AND SHALL BE FRESH AND
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FLOURISHING TO
DECLARE THE LORD IS UP RIGHT.
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HE IS MY ROCK. WHAT
IF SOMEBODY IS -- I HAD A
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LADY CALL ME IN A NURSING HOME
AND COULDN'T GET OUT AND SHE
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SAID, I PRAY FOR YOU EVERY DAY.
I PRAY FOR EVERYBODY AT 3ABN AND
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SHE LISTED OFF EVERYBODY BY
NAME AND HE SAID I PRAY FOR THE
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CHURCH WORKERS AND SHE'S TELLING
ME THESE THINGS BUT SHE SAID, I
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NEED YOU TO PRAY FOR ME BECAUSE
SHE SAID -- SHE JUST BEGAN TO
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WEEP. SHE SAID I
WAS A MISSIONARY'S
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WIFE AND NOW I
DON'T HAVE ANY MINISTRY.
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I SAID WAIT A MINUTE. YOU
JUST GOT THROUGH TELLING ME,
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YOU PRAY ALL DAY LONG.
I SAID CONGRATULATIONS.
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DON'T EVER TAKE THAT GRANTED
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT GOD IS
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LOOKING FOR IS PEOPLE WHO
WILL INTERCEDE AND IT'S SUCH A
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POWERFUL MINISTRY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT ABUSE, HUMAN
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TRAFFICKING, THE THINGS THAT ARE
GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND HOW DO
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WE REACH OUT TO -- IF WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE GOSPEL
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TO PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING
PHYSICALLY ABUSED, SEXUALLY
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ABUSED, EMOTIONALLY ABUSED, HOW
DO WE REACH OUT FIRST TO PREPARE
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THE GROUND SO THAT THEY
CAN RECEIVE THE GOOD NEWS?
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>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE
FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS BE
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INFORMED. WHAT
ARE THE ISSUES IN MY
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COMMUNITY AND MY CITY AND MY
PART OF THE WORLD WHEN IT COMES
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TO ABUSE WHAT IS NUMBER
ONE. IS IT THAT NUMBER ONE?
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IS IT THAT RAPE IS THE NUMBER
ONE THING IN MY COMMUNITY.
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I NEED TO FIND OUT WHEN I HAVE
TO GO TO THE PLACE STATION OR
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MAYOR'S OFFICE OR WHATEVER IT
IS, I'M GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S
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HAPPENING WHEN IT COMES TO
ABUSE IN MY PART OF THE WORLD.
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ONCE I FIND THAT OUT THEN I
DECIDE, WELL, OKAY, MAYBE I'LL
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GET A GROUP OF SISTERS TO COME
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING
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WHAT WE CAN DO TO
HELP SOMEONE ELSE.
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I REMEMBER SOME YEARS AGO WHEN
I WAS HERE SOME LADIES HAD ON
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DISPLAY SOME BEAUTIFUL THINGS
THEY HAD MADE TO TAKE TO WOMEN
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BEAUTIFUL LITTLE BASKETS WITH
LITTLE DOLLAR STORE COSMETICS
00:10:13.34\00:10:18.31
INSIDE WHICH THEY WOULD TAKE
TO THE HOSPITAL TO GIVE TO WOMEN
00:10:18.31\00:10:20.58
WHO HAD BEEN RAPED. AND
WHEN THE VICTIM HAD BEEN
00:10:20.58\00:10:24.82
EXAMINED AND QUESTIONED AND ALL
THAT SORT OF STUFF THEY WOULD
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GIVE THEM THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE
BASKET WITH THESE LOVELY AROMA
00:10:27.26\00:10:32.16
THERAPY THINGS IN IT SHE COULD
THEN GO AND HAVE HER FIRST BATH.
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THERE ARE SO MANY
PRACTICAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
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I'VE SHARED THAT STORY ALL OVER
THE WORLD TO HELP WOMEN DEAL
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WITH THESE ISSUES. I
THINK OF ROMANIA WHERE WE HAVE
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SISTERS WHO GO OUT IN THE STREET
AND THEY HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE
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PROSTITUTES. WE THINK
PROSTITUTES, OH, WELL,
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THAT'S NOT ABUSE.
WELL, NOT NECESSARILY.
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MANY OF THESE WOMEN FIND
THEMSELVES DOING THIS BECAUSE
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NUMBER ONE THEY'VE BEEN
KIDNAPPED FROM WHERE THEY LIVED.
00:11:06.39\00:11:09.43
THEY'RE FORCED INTO IT.
THEY CAN'T GET OUT OF IT.
00:11:09.43\00:11:13.03
SO OUR LADIES GO OUT ON
THE STREETS AND THEY TAKE THEM
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SANDWICHES.
THEY TAKE THEM WATER.
00:11:16.74\00:11:18.41
THEY TAKE THEM CONDOMS.
BECAUSE NOBODY PROVIDES THEM
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WITH THIS STUFF. AND
THEY TALK WITH THEM AND TRY
00:11:21.74\00:11:25.81
TO BECOME FRIENDS WITH THEM.
THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO
00:11:25.81\00:11:30.15
TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
BUT IT BEGINS WITH BEING
00:11:30.15\00:11:33.05
INFORMED. YOU
KNOW, WHAT IS THE ISSUE.
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>> EVERYONE OF THOSE
GIRLS IS SOMEBODY'S DAUGHTER.
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AND YOU'RE SOMEBODY'S CHILD.
>> EITHER ONE OF THEM WOKE UP
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AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT
TO DO WITH THE REST OF MY LIFE.
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THAT WAS FORCED UPON THEM.
>> WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THINGS
00:11:48.50\00:11:53.17
LIKE HUMAN TRAFFICKING WHICH IS
WAY UP THERE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE
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THINK ABOUT BEING DRUGGED
AND TAKEN FROM YOUR COUNTRY TO
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ANOTHER COUNTRY WHICH MAY HAVE
BEEN DAYS OF TRAVEL AND YOU WERE
00:12:00.62\00:12:06.72
DRUGGED THROUGH THE WHOLE
PROCESS AND WHEN YOU WAKE UP
00:12:06.72\00:12:08.69
YOU'RE IN A CLOSET OR ATTIC
OR BACK ROOM SOMEWHERE WHERE MEN
00:12:08.69\00:12:13.56
COME AND RAPE YOU OVER AND OVER.
THERE ARE JUST -- THERE'S A LOT
00:12:13.56\00:12:19.33
THAT WE CAN PRAY FOR AND WE
NEED TO BE PRAYING, BUT I ALSO
00:12:19.33\00:12:22.40
BELIEVE THAT THERE'S
A LOT THAT WE CAN DO.
00:12:22.40\00:12:26.07
YOU KNOW, I HEAR LADIES SAY TO
ME, AS CHRISTIANS I DON'T THINK
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WE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN SOCIAL
ACTIVISM AND I SAY, EXCUSE ME?
00:12:31.81\00:12:37.72
I GO TO COUNTRIES WHERE MY
SISTERS GO OUT ON THE STREETS
00:12:37.72\00:12:42.96
AND MARCH AND THEY'LL PEOPLE
STANDING UP ON THE SIDES OF THE
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STREETS LOOKING AT US AS WE
MARCH THROUGH THE STREETS AND WE
00:12:47.23\00:12:52.00
HAVE THEM SIGN A PLEDGE
CARD AND GIVE THEM INFORMATION.
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WE'VE GOT TO GET INVOLVED
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT JUST A TOWN
00:12:54.60\00:12:58.31
PROBLEM, THIS IS
A GLOBAL PROBLEM.
00:12:58.31\00:13:01.94
AND WE NEED TO SPEAK UP. I
ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT VERSE IN
00:13:01.94\00:13:07.22
PROVERBS 31 I THINK VERSE EIGHT,
SPEAK UP FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT
00:13:07.22\00:13:09.95
SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
WHO IS GOING TO BE THE VOICE?
00:13:09.95\00:13:12.05
AM I GOING TO SAY, I'M GOING TO
DO THE BIBLE STUDY AND SOMEONE
00:13:12.05\00:13:17.26
ELSE DO THE OTHER PART.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE LIFE OF
00:13:17.26\00:13:19.33
JESUS, THAT'S NOT WHAT HE D I
LOOK AT HIM PEEKING UP FOR THE
00:13:19.33\00:13:25.23
WOMAN WHO WAS CAUGHT IN THIS
TERRIBLE SITUATION WHERE THE MAN
00:13:25.23\00:13:29.14
WASN'T CALLED BUT SHE WAS --
THEY WERE READY TO STONE HER.
00:13:29.14\00:13:33.17
HE SPOKE UP FOR HER.
I THINK OF SO MANY OTHER
00:13:33.17\00:13:37.45
SITUATIONS. THE
WOMAN AT THE WELL, JUST SO
00:13:37.45\00:13:42.75
MANY TIMES WHEN
SOMETHING HE SAID.
00:13:42.75\00:13:45.82
I THINK ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL
ONES AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT
00:13:45.82\00:13:49.86
COMES TO MY MIND WHEN I THINK OF
THE WOMAN WHO WAS DOUBLED OVER.
00:13:49.86\00:13:57.00
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYONE ELSE,
BUT DOUBLED OVER, YOUR VIEW OF
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THE WORLD SUDDENLY
BECOMES THE DIRT AND THE MUCK.
00:14:01.67\00:14:04.44
THEY DIDN'T HAVE
CONCRETE STREETS BACK THEN.
00:14:04.44\00:14:06.84
YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT THIS
WOMAN SAW EVERY DAY AND JESUS
00:14:06.84\00:14:10.58
ADDRESSED THIS WOMAN
AS DAUGHTER OF ABRAHAM.
00:14:10.58\00:14:16.02
WOW. TALK ABOUT ACTIVISM.
00:14:16.02\00:14:20.69
NOBODY -- NO WOMAN WAS
CALLED A DAUGHTER OF ABRAHAM.
00:14:20.69\00:14:24.86
EVEN IF ABRAHAM WOULD HAVE HAD
DAUGHTERS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SON
00:14:24.86\00:14:27.96
IN ABRAHAM. BECAUSE
IN THE JEWISH CULTURE
00:14:27.96\00:14:30.90
THE MAN WAS VALUED
AND THE WOMAN WASN'T.
00:14:30.90\00:14:36.30
SO, FOR HIM TO CALL HER DAUGHTER
OF ABRAHAM ELEVATED HER ON AN
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EQUAL LEVEL WITH THE MEN.
SO, HOW DO I SAY THAT I'M GOING
00:14:41.28\00:14:45.98
TO TELL PEOPLE OF THE LOVE OF J
00:14:45.98\00:14:50.95
JESUS BUT IGNORE THE SITUATION
I'M IN BUT STILL GIVE YOU JESUS.
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>> PEOPLE DON'T
CARE. WE'VE ALL HEARD THIS.
00:14:56.93\00:15:01.93
I LOVE WHAT YOU SAID WHEN
YOU HEATHER-DAWN SAID GO TO THE
00:15:01.93\00:15:08.00
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIND OUT
WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR TOWN.
00:15:08.00\00:15:11.34
I REMEMBER WE WERE LIVING IN A
SMALL COMMUNITY FOR A SHORT TIME
00:15:11.34\00:15:16.91
AND WAS VERY ACTIVELY INVOLVED
IN MINISTRY AND STARTED WORKING
00:15:16.91\00:15:22.25
WITH SOME PEOPLE, SOME POLICEMEN
WHO WOULD COME AND FOUND OUT IN
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THIS SMALL LITTLE TOWN WHICH
I THOUGHT WOULD BE THE MOST
00:15:28.36\00:15:31.36
PERFECT PLACE TO REAR A CHILD,
THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM IN THAT
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TOWN WAS INCEST. INCEST.
00:15:38.20\00:15:41.97
AND YOU THINK,
YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING?
00:15:41.97\00:15:44.94
AND THEY SAID IT
WAS SO PREVALENT.
00:15:44.94\00:15:47.34
SO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO THEN
IS THINK HOW CAN WE FIRST REACH
00:15:47.34\00:15:54.18
VICTIMS AND LET VICTIMS KNOW
THAT THERE'S A SAFE PLACE TO
00:15:54.18\00:15:57.59
TALK AND A SAFE PLACE TO GO,
BUT HOW CAN YOU THEN ALSO MAKE A
00:15:57.59\00:16:04.09
DIFFERENCE BY DEVELOPING THE
KIND OF MATERIALS MAYBE, HOLDING
00:16:04.09\00:16:10.60
SEMINARS SO THAT PEOPLE WHETHER
IT BE THE PARENT WHO IS NOT
00:16:10.60\00:16:15.34
GUILTY OF THE INCENSE CAN COME
AND LEARN OR HOW CAN YOU LOCK
00:16:15.34\00:16:19.91
THAT PERSON UP. BUT
THE POINT IS, THERE'S SO
00:16:19.91\00:16:24.38
MUCH -- WE HEAR THESE STORIES OF
SEXUAL SLAVE TRADE THAT 'S GOING
00:16:24.38\00:16:31.72
ON IN INDIA AND
AFRICA >> AND AMERICA.
00:16:31.72\00:16:36.32
>> RIGHT NEXT
DOOR ACROSS THE STREET.
00:16:36.32\00:16:39.26
>> LOOK WHAT GOES ON EVERYWHERE.
>> LAS VEGAS, NEVADA.
00:16:39.26\00:16:43.77
WHEN YOU THINK OF FEMALE GENITAL
MUTILATION, THERE WAS A TIME WE
00:16:43.77\00:16:47.87
THOUGHT OF HA AND WE THOUGHT
THAT HAPPENS IN THOSE COUNTRIES
00:16:47.87\00:16:50.61
AND NOT HERE.  BUT NOW WE'RE
DISCOVERING IT HAPPENS HERE.
00:16:50.61\00:16:55.14
>> THAT'S THE
FIRST I HEARD THIS.
00:16:55.14\00:16:56.54
>> IT'S HAPPENING HERE, BECAUSE
MANY OF THESE PEOPLE GROUPS LIVE
00:16:56.54\00:17:00.25
IN PEOPLE GROUPS WHEN THEY LIVE
HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND
00:17:00.25\00:17:02.88
THEY CONTINUE THEIR
TRADITIONS AND CUSTOMS.
00:17:02.88\00:17:05.49
SOMETIMES WHAT THEY'LL DO,
THEY TAKE THE CHILD BACK TO THE
00:17:05.49\00:17:09.32
COUNTRY WHERE SHE WILL THEN HAVE
THIS PROCEDURE DONE AND THEN
00:17:09.32\00:17:12.63
BRING HER BACK TO
THE UNITED STATES.
00:17:12.63\00:17:14.60
OR THEY'LL DO IT RIGHT HERE
AND IT'S NOT DONE IN A HOSPITAL.
00:17:14.60\00:17:19.83
IT'S NOT DONE
UNDER STERILE CONDITIONS.
00:17:19.83\00:17:22.00
IT'S DONE IN A HOME IN A BACK
ROOM AND SO THESE ARE ISSUES
00:17:22.00\00:17:25.97
THAT WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED.
>> WE CANNOT JUST BE CONCERNED
00:17:25.97\00:17:29.98
ABOUT THE SALVATION OF
THE PEOPLE THAT WE MEET.
00:17:29.98\00:17:32.15
THAT'S NUMBER ONE. AND
I WILL NEVER REMOVE THAT
00:17:32.15\00:17:36.48
FROM NUMBER ONE. I WANT
YOU TO BE SAVED BUT THERE
00:17:36.48\00:17:39.79
ARE THINGS THAT COULD BE IN
THE WAY OF YOU EVEN BEGINNING TO
00:17:39.79\00:17:42.82
LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY
TO ACCEPT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
00:17:42.82\00:17:48.26
AND UNLESS I'M WILLING TO DEAL
WITH THOSE THINGS, THEN HOW AM I
00:17:48.26\00:17:53.17
GOING TO GET THE WORD OF GOD
THROUGH TO YOU IF YOU CAN'T SEE
00:17:53.17\00:17:58.37
THE LOVE OF GOD? >> WE
ALL NEED SOMETHING MORE
00:17:58.37\00:18:02.18
THAN JUST TO BE PREACHED AT.
WE NEED TO KNOW -- IT NEEDS TO
00:18:02.18\00:18:06.51
BE THAT ONE ON ONE CONNECTION
AND I KNOW THAT -- I WISH SHEREE
00:18:06.51\00:18:13.29
WERE HERE TONIGHT AND SHE WISHES
SHE WERE HERE.  SHE WOULD BE
00:18:13.29\00:18:18.09
BOUNCING OFF THE WALLS.
HER PROGRAM IN CELEBRATING LIFE
00:18:18.09\00:18:22.23
IN RECOVERY IS GOING OUT INTO
MANY CHURCHES NOW AND WE HAVE A
00:18:22.23\00:18:27.64
COUPLE AT HOUR CHURCH WHO
ARE GIVING THIS AND THEY'RE
00:18:27.64\00:18:31.44
HAVING -- RIGHT NOW THEY'RE
GETTING READY TO START A NEW
00:18:31.44\00:18:35.68
CELEBRATING LIFE IN RECOVERY
SERIES AND THEY'RE REALLY
00:18:35.68\00:18:40.08
GETTING EXCELLENT RESPONSE FROM
THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
00:18:40.08\00:18:42.42
FINDING OR THE WORD IS GETTING
OUT, THIS IS A SAFE PLACE TO GO
00:18:42.42\00:18:47.52
AND TALK ABOUT MY ADDICTION AND
TO GO AND FIND HEALING AND IT IS
00:18:47.52\00:18:53.23
THE METHOD OF JESUS.
IT'S THAT GETTING TO KNOW ONE
00:18:53.23\00:18:59.80
ANOTHER, ESTABLISHING
THE FELLOWSHIP, THE BOND AND
00:18:59.80\00:19:03.07
BEGINNING TO
TEACH THEM. ABSOLUTELY.
00:19:03.07\00:19:05.64
>> WE NEED TO HAVE THAT.
WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE
00:19:05.64\00:19:10.15
WILLING TO BE REAL. AND
I THINK IT BEGINS 0 YOU ARE
00:19:10.15\00:19:15.85
LEADERS. I THINK
IT BEGINS WITH YOU AND
00:19:15.85\00:19:17.19
WITH MOE. IT'S NOT
FOR SOMEONE OFF THE
00:19:17.19\00:19:22.26
STREET WHO GOT BAPTIZED AND LET
ME TELL YOU MY STORY. YES, THEY
00:19:22.26\00:19:26.39
NEED TO DO THAT. BUT WE
OUT THERE, WE NEED TO BE
00:19:26.39\00:19:30.20
REAL ABOUT PEOPLE. WE
NEED TO LET THEM KNOW I'M
00:19:30.20\00:19:33.57
GOING THROUGH A REALLY DIFFICULT
TIME TONIGHT AND I'M ASKING YOU
00:19:33.57\00:19:36.74
TO BE PRAYING FOR ME
AS I'M DOING THIS PROGRAM.
00:19:36.74\00:19:41.08
THE FIRST TIME WHEN I PREACHED
AS A WOMEN'S MINISTRY LEADER,
00:19:41.08\00:19:45.55
THIS WAS BACK IN
TRINIDAD IN 1996.
00:19:45.55\00:19:47.65
I HAD JUST TAKEN THE POSITION AS
WOMEN AND CHILDREN'S MINISTRIES
00:19:47.65\00:19:59.96
LEADER. I SPENT
WEEKS -- I CANNOT TELL
00:19:59.96\00:20:02.73
YOU HOW MANY WEEKS I
SPENT PREPARING THIS MESSAGE.
00:20:02.73\00:20:08.37
I WAS IN ALL MY HUSBAND'S
THEOLOGICAL BOOKS ALL OVER THE
00:20:08.37\00:20:12.44
DESKS AND ASKING HIM QUESTIONS
BECAUSE I WANTED THE SERMON TO
00:20:12.44\00:20:15.64
BE DEEP AND POWERFUL. I
STOOD UP TO THAT SABBATH DAY
00:20:15.64\00:20:22.35
TO PREACH IN ALMOST 400 WOMEN
AND I'M GOING INTO IT THE HOLY
00:20:22.35\00:20:27.89
SPIRIT STARTED SAYING TO
ME, YOU'RE PREACHING THE WRONG
00:20:27.89\00:20:30.43
MESSAGE AND I'M THING THIS
VOICE -- YOU'RE PREACHING THE
00:20:30.43\00:20:34.86
WRONG MESSAGE. YOU NEED TO STOP.
00:20:34.86\00:20:39.83
I'M GOING THROUGH THESE NOTES
BUT HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IN
00:20:39.83\00:20:43.00
MY HEAD. I'M
SAYING, THIS IS WHEN YOU'RE
00:20:43.00\00:20:46.14
TELLING ME. I'M
SAYING, WEEKS OF RESEARCH
00:20:46.14\00:20:47.98
WENT INTO THIS. >>
YOU PROBABLY WEREN'T --
00:20:47.98\00:20:51.51
>> I WAS DEEP IN THIS STUFF.
I HAD TO MAKE A GOOD FIRST
00:20:51.51\00:20:56.48
IMPRESSION.
UNION WOMEN'S MINISTRY.
00:20:56.48\00:20:58.19
I WAS MORE CONCERNED WITH
MY POSITION THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
00:20:58.19\00:21:01.76
AND THEN I THOUGHT, OKAY, SO
I'M GOING TO STOP BUT WHAT AM I
00:21:01.76\00:21:05.43
GOING TO SAY? AND ALL
THE LORD SAID TO ME WAS,
00:21:05.43\00:21:08.16
TELL THEM WHAT I HAVE DONE.
AND SO I STOPPED PREACHING AND I
00:21:08.16\00:21:15.14
PAUSED AND I SHARED WITH THEM.
I SAID THE LORD IS TELLING ME I
00:21:15.14\00:21:19.31
NEED -- THAT THIS MESSAGE IS THE
WRONG ONE AND I NEED TO SHARE
00:21:19.31\00:21:24.01
WITH YOU WHAT GOD HAS BEEN DOING
IN MY LIFE AND I BEGAN TO SHARE
00:21:24.01\00:21:30.12
AND ONE WOMAN STARTED TO CRY AND
ANOTHER ONE STARTED TO CRY AND
00:21:30.12\00:21:34.39
ANOTHER AND ANOTHER. AND
I THOUGHT MY MESSAGE WASN'T
00:21:34.39\00:21:38.19
TO GET THEM TO BOO HOO
LIKE THIS, BUT IT WASN'T.
00:21:38.19\00:21:46.03
WE WENT INTO PRAYER SESSION
IN SMALL GROUPS THAT WENT ALMOST
00:21:46.03\00:21:51.74
THREE HOURS LONG. AND
WOMEN SHARED AND MINISTERED
00:21:51.74\00:21:55.01
TO THE NEEDS. I
THOUGHT, FROM THAT MOMENT I
00:21:55.01\00:22:01.18
THOUGHT, WOW, THAT'S GOOD.
I COULD SHARE EVERYTHING GOOD
00:22:01.18\00:22:04.02
FROM THE WORD OF GOD.
BUT UNLESS I CAN APPLY IT TO
00:22:04.02\00:22:06.69
MYSELF AND UNLESS I CAN SAY WHAT
THIS WORD OF GOD HAS DONE IN MY
00:22:06.69\00:22:12.73
LIFE, HOW I HAVE COME TO THE
POINT IN MY LIFE WHERE I HAVE
00:22:12.73\00:22:23.67
SEEN AND UNTIL I COULD
GET THIS IT'S JUST WORDS.
00:22:23.67\00:22:27.81
>> LET ME MINISTER
TO SOMEONE RIGHT NOW.
00:22:27.81\00:22:31.65
I LOST MY WIFE FOUR MONTHS AGO
AND I CANNOT BEAR TO BE AT HOME
00:22:31.65\00:22:35.48
AROUND THE HOUSE AND
I CANNOT SLEEP AT NIGHT.
00:22:35.48\00:22:39.02
DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS FOR
ME? HOW CAN I HANDLE THIS?
00:22:39.02\00:22:44.23
>> ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS
I WOULD SAY TO THAT PERSON, IF
00:22:44.23\00:22:46.36
THEY COULD GET INTO A GRIEF
COUNSELING GROUP THAT WOULD BE
00:22:46.36\00:22:49.23
VERY GOOD. YOU
KNOW, PEOPLE THINK WELL,
00:22:49.23\00:22:52.80
GRIEF THERAPY -- BUT BEING
AROUND PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND
00:22:52.80\00:22:58.24
WHAT YOU ARE GOING THROUGH IS SO
HEALING AND HELPFUL IF YOU CAN'T
00:22:58.24\00:23:05.08
GET INTO THAT GROUP MAYBE THERE
ISN'T ONE IN YOUR AREA, NEXT
00:23:05.08\00:23:07.98
THING I WOULD
SAY SEE A COUNSELOR.
00:23:07.98\00:23:10.49
SEE SOMEONE WHO CAN HELP
YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, THE
00:23:10.49\00:23:15.22
STEPS WHICH YOU'LL GO THROUGH
AND WHO IS GOING TO WALK THE
00:23:15.22\00:23:18.83
ROAD WITH YOU.
BECAUSE IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU
00:23:18.83\00:23:21.50
CAN DO ON YOUR OWN.
LOSING A SPOUSE IS -- I MEAN, I
00:23:21.50\00:23:26.60
CANNOT JUST EVEN THINK OF
THE KIND OF GRIEF THAT WOULD BE
00:23:26.60\00:23:29.20
SPHREURB IF YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED
TO THIS PERSON FOR SO MANY
00:23:29.20\00:23:33.24
YEARS. AND BEING IN THE HOME AND
00:23:33.24\00:23:34.58
WHEREVER YOU LOOK THERE
ARE MEMORIES AND MEMORIES.
00:23:34.58\00:23:36.75
YOU NEED THAT KIND OF HELP.
BUT ONE THING I WILL SAY THAT I
00:23:36.75\00:23:40.72
KNOW HAS HELPED SOMEONE WHO HAS
BEEN THROUGH THAT, SHE WENT INTO
00:23:40.72\00:23:43.79
GRIEF COUNSELING AND ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT SHE WAS ADVISED WAS
00:23:43.79\00:23:47.82
BEGIN A JOURNAL AND BEGIN TO
WRITE MEMORIES OF GOOD MEMORIES
00:23:47.82\00:23:52.63
OF THINGS THAT
HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
00:23:52.63\00:23:57.73
SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE AND
HER CHILDREN WENT TO THIS
00:23:57.73\00:24:00.94
COUNSELLING AND THEY BOTH, ALL
THREE OF THEM, BEGAN TO JOURNAL
00:24:00.94\00:24:04.01
EVERY DAY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME,
MEMORIES AND WHEN THEY COMPARED
00:24:04.01\00:24:07.58
IT THEY ALL HAD DIFFERENT
MEMORIES OF THEIR FATHER WHO HAD
00:24:07.58\00:24:12.45
DIED AND THAT WAS SUCH
A PRECIOUS THING FOR THEM.
00:24:12.45\00:24:27.40
>> SHE WANTS ME TO REPEAT THE
TEXT THAT I HAD READ EARLIER AND
00:24:27.40\00:24:34.40
THAT ABOUT BEARING FRUIT IN
THE OLD AGE AND BEING FRESH AND
00:24:34.40\00:24:38.81
FLOURISHING AND THAT IS PSALM
92 AND THAT IS VERSES 13 AND 14.
00:24:38.81\00:24:44.95
AND I LOVE THAT.
YOU'RE GOTHAT WAS PSALM 92 AND
00:24:44.95\00:25:01.50
VERSE 14 AND 15. I
DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH
00:25:01.50\00:25:04.07
MY EYES. BUT THIS
BIG OLD HAIR OF MINE IS
00:25:04.07\00:25:06.23
PUTTING SHADOWS ON
THERE. >> I HAD A RECENT TRAUMA.
00:25:06.23\00:25:12.84
I WAS GOING TO GIVE THE NAME.
THE LADY -- I DON'T SEE HER
00:25:12.84\00:25:16.21
NAME. I HAD A
RECENT TRAUMA AND I'VE
00:25:16.21\00:25:20.05
SUFFERED FROM CONSTANT
TEARFULNESS FOR THE LAST FEW
00:25:20.05\00:25:23.89
MONTHS. MY
COUNSELOR THERAPIST SUGGESTS
00:25:23.89\00:25:26.49
THAT I TRY TAKING AN
ANTI-DEPRESSANT, HOW WILL I KNOW
00:25:26.49\00:25:31.39
WHICH
ANTI-DESPRESENT IS RIGHT FOR ME?
00:25:31.39\00:25:33.46
>> WELL, THE FIRST THING I WANT
TO SAY TO THEM, LET THEIR DOCTOR
00:25:33.46\00:25:37.77
OR THE COUNSELOR RECOMMEND A
PSYCHIATRIST TO GO TO BECAUSE
00:25:37.77\00:25:42.44
IT'S BEST TO GET THAT FIRST
MEDICATION FROM SOMEONE WHO IS
00:25:42.44\00:25:53.68
C QUALIFIED IN THE AREA.
00:25:53.68\00:25:54.48
>> IN A SUPERVISED MANNER.
>> I'VE KNOWN DOCTORS, LET'S
00:25:54.48\00:26:02.26
SAY, REGULAR MEDICAL DOCTORS
WHO WILL TRY TO PRESCRIBE.
00:26:02.26\00:26:06.36
BUT THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
YOU NEED SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THESE
00:26:06.36\00:26:10.77
DRUGS AND WHO
COULD LOOK AT YOUR FIPHYS
00:26:10.77\00:26:18.21
PHYSICAL RECORD AND DECIDE LET'S
TRY THIS ONE FIRST AND CHANGE
00:26:18.21\00:26:23.14
ACCORDING TO BASE ON WHAT
RESULTS YOU SHARE WITH THEM.
00:26:23.14\00:26:28.38
SEE A PSYCHIATRIST AND HAVE
YOUR DOCTOR OR YOUR COUNSELOR
00:26:28.38\00:26:32.02
RECOMMEND A GOOD PSYCHIATRIST.
ONCE YOU'VE GOTTEN ON THE
00:26:32.02\00:26:35.36
MEDICATION AND IS WORKING
FOR YOU, YOU DON'T NEED TO KEEP
00:26:35.36\00:26:39.69
SEEING YOUR PSYCHIATRIST.
YOU CAN THEN MOVE ON TO YOUR
00:26:39.69\00:26:42.33
COUNSELOR OR THERAPIST.
>> SHE HAS ANOTHER QUESTION.
00:26:42.33\00:26:46.37
AND THAT IS WILL I HAVE TO BE ON
THIS MEDICINE FOR THE REST OF MY
00:26:46.37\00:26:53.27
LIFE? >> WELL,
IT IS A BIG CONCERN.
00:26:53.27\00:26:56.11
I HAVE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU,
I'VE BEEN ON ANTI-DEPRESSANTS
00:26:56.11\00:27:02.12
SINCE 1998 AND THIS IS 2016 AND
I'M STILL ON MY ANTI-DESPRESENT.
00:27:02.12\00:27:08.52
AND I HAVE TRIED TO STOP.
I'VE MADE A NUMBER OF CHANGES IN
00:27:08.52\00:27:12.26
MY HEALTH. I HAVE
TRIED TO STOP AND IT HAS
00:27:12.26\00:27:15.46
NOT BEEN GOOD. MY
DOCTOR I SAID CAN WE REDUCE
00:27:15.46\00:27:19.33
MY DOSE AND BY THE TIME WE
GOT TO ABOUT HALF OF WHAT I WAS
00:27:19.33\00:27:23.91
TAKING, I WENT OVER THE
DEEP EDGE INTO BAD DEPRESSION.
00:27:23.91\00:27:27.91
SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO, BUT THINK
ABOUT T THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
00:27:27.91\00:27:31.05
WHO TAKE MEDICATION EVERY
DAY FOR HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE FOR
00:27:31.05\00:27:36.38
CHOLESTEROL FOR THYROID.
YOU GOT TO TAKE IT FOR THE REST
00:27:36.38\00:27:41.09
OF YOUR LIFE. DON'T
BE AFRAID OF MEDICATION.
00:27:41.09\00:27:43.53
YES, THERE ARE MEDICATIONS THAT
HAVE TERRIBLE SIDE EFFECTS AND
00:27:43.53\00:27:46.83
WE KNOW THAT. BUT
MY THING IS, QUALITY OF
00:27:46.83\00:27:50.10
LIFE. IF I'M
GOING TO HAVE A BETTER
00:27:50.10\00:27:53.30
QUALITY OF LIFE ON THIS
MEDICATION I'LL NOT GOING TO BE
00:27:53.30\00:27:58.67
THINKING SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND
END LIFE AND ALL THIS SORT OF
00:27:58.67\00:28:02.21
STUFF, BUT I CAN HAVE A BETTER
QUALITY THEN YOU GOT TO WEIGH
00:28:02.21\00:28:05.88
THAT AND ASK YOURSELF WHICH ONE
DO I WANT&AND QUALITY OF LIFE
00:28:05.88\00:28:10.62
WINS OUT EVERY TIME. >>
00:28:10.62\00:28:14.89
>> I WENT TO MY DOCTOR A NUMBER
OF YEARS BACK AND -- I ACTUALLY
00:28:14.89\00:28:20.96
HAD GOTTEN TO EDEN
VALLEY AND THEY TOLD ME I HAD
00:28:20.96\00:28:27.30
HYPOTHYROIDISM AND I CAME BACK
TO MY DOCTOR AND I SAID CAN YOU
00:28:27.30\00:28:30.77
SEND ME TO AN ENDOCHRON OLOGIST.
HE SAID I CAN PRESCRIBE IT.
00:28:30.77\00:28:36.68
I SAID NO. I WANT
TO SEE AN END DOUGH
00:28:36.68\00:28:42.38
CHRON OLOGIST WHO
SPECIALIZES IN THIS.
00:28:42.38\00:28:46.42
SO MY DOCTOR SAID, LET ME
DO THE BLOOD WORK AT LEAST.
00:28:46.42\00:28:50.03
I SAID YOU CAN
DO THE BLOOD WORK.
00:28:50.03\00:28:52.29
I WENT TO SEE -- HE RECOMMENDED
ME TO AN END CHRON OLOGIST.
00:28:52.29\00:28:57.03
WHEN I WENT TO SEE THIS END
DOUGH RCHRON OLOGIST, HE SAID TO
00:28:57.03\00:29:09.48
ME, MY HAIR IS FALLING OUT AND
MY EYES ARE PUFFY AND EVERYTHING
00:29:09.48\00:29:15.55
IS GOING ON AND I
SAID, I'M NOT DEPRESSED.
00:29:15.55\00:29:19.32
I'M NOT WEEPY, BUT I
SAID I'M NOT MOTIVATED.
00:29:19.32\00:29:23.99
I SAID I WAIT UNTIL THE
LAST MINUTE TO DO EVERYTHING.
00:29:23.99\00:29:26.90
I'M STILL A VERY PRODUCTIVE
PERSON BECAUSE MY LIFE IS SO
00:29:26.90\00:29:32.80
TIGHTLY SCHEDULED BUT IT WOULD
BE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF I KNEW THAT
00:29:32.80\00:29:37.97
I WAS PREACHING ON SABBATH
AND I HAD TO FLY OUT ON FRIDAY,
00:29:37.97\00:29:42.01
THURSDAY NIGHT I'D BE THINKING,
I STILL GOT TOMORROW TO PREPARE
00:29:42.01\00:29:45.15
A SERMON. NOW THAT
SOUNDS HORRIBLE BECAUSE
00:29:45.15\00:29:48.88
YOU THINK AND PRAISE THE LORD
HE'S ALWAYS WITH ME TO DO THAT,
00:29:48.88\00:29:53.92
I TOLD THE DOCTOR, IF YOU -- HE
SAID WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE NOT
00:29:53.92\00:29:58.33
MOTIVATED. I SAID,
IF WE AWERE SITTING IN A
00:29:58.33\00:30:02.66
ROOM FULL OF GASOLINE CANS YOU
AND LIT A MATCH I'D BE THINKING
00:30:02.66\00:30:06.74
THERE, THIS COULD BE DANGEROUS
BUT I WOULDN'T MOVE UNTIL YOU
00:30:06.74\00:30:11.17
DROPPED IT. SO,
SOMETIMES THERE ARE PHYSICAL
00:30:11.17\00:30:18.68
CONDITIONS THAT CAN
CREATE DEPRESSION AND LACK OF
00:30:18.68\00:30:27.46
MOTIV
MOTIVATION, THAT'S PROBABLY A
00:30:27.46\00:30:28.76
FORM OF DEPRESSION. I
HADN'T GOTTEN ALL THE WAY DOWN
00:30:28.76\00:30:31.49
YET. THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO CAN GET ON
00:30:31.49\00:30:35.23
ANTI-DEPRESSANTS AND WORK THEIR
WAY OUT JUST LIKE PEOPLE WHO MAY
00:30:35.23\00:30:38.30
START ON INSULIN AND CAN BY
LIFESTYLE CHANGES THAT THEY CAN
00:30:38.30\00:30:44.07
WORK THEIR WAY
OFF OF THAT PERHAPS.
00:30:44.07\00:30:51.88
BUT WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING IS SO VALID.
00:30:51.88\00:30:54.08
DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE LENGTH OF
TIME YOU STAY ON IT BUT QUALITY
00:30:54.08\00:30:59.92
OF LIFE. THIS LADY
HER NAME IS DELLMA AND
00:30:59.92\00:31:07.46
SHE'S A WOMAN'S
MINISTRY LEADER IN HER CHURCH.
00:31:07.46\00:31:11.33
HOW DOES SHE PERSUADE THE CHURCH
BOARD TO DEAL WITH THESE ISSUES
00:31:11.33\00:31:15.27
THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING? >>
SHE'S GOT TO GET OTHER PEOPLE
00:31:15.27\00:31:23.31
ON HER SIDE. EVEN
THOUGH AS A DEPARTMENT AND
00:31:23.31\00:31:25.28
AS A CHURCH, WE PUT A LOT OF
EMPHASIS ON THINGS LIKE ABUSE
00:31:25.28\00:31:32.19
AND FROM OUR DEPARTMENT WE
CREATE A SERMON AND SEMINAR
00:31:32.19\00:31:37.96
EVERY YEAR FOR THIS, THERE ARE
MANY CHURCHES THAT DO NOT DO IT.
00:31:37.96\00:31:45.43
MAYBE THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH
LEADERSHIP THAT IN THEIR OWN
00:31:45.43\00:31:50.67
HOME ARE HAVING PROBLEMS OF
ABUSE OR MAYBE PROBLEMS IN THE
00:31:50.67\00:31:55.61
CHURCH WHO SAY, WE
DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THIS.
00:31:55.61\00:31:59.85
IT'S GOING TO
BRING UP A LOT OF PAIN.
00:31:59.85\00:32:02.18
UNLESS WE START EDUCATING
OURSELVES WE WON'T BE ABLE TO
00:32:02.18\00:32:06.35
HELP PEOPLE. HOW DO
I REACH OUT TO SOMEONE
00:32:06.35\00:32:09.52
WHO IS IN AN ABUSIVE SITUATION?
IF I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT
00:32:09.52\00:32:14.10
THAT SITUATION
AND DEAL WITH THAT.
00:32:14.10\00:32:26.24
IT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE
CHURCH WHO ARE ALSO INTERESTED
00:32:26.24\00:32:29.51
IN SPEAKING ABOUT THEISH SKPAOU
HAVING THE CHURCH START OFF WITH
00:32:29.51\00:32:34.42
A HALF DAY
SEMINAR. BRING SOMEONE IN.
00:32:34.42\00:32:36.75
THEN GET TOGETHER
AND CONFRONT THE PASTOR.
00:32:36.75\00:32:41.12
SAY, PASTOR, WE WOMEN WOULD
LIKE TO SEE THIS HAPPEN IN OUR
00:32:41.12\00:32:44.49
CHURCH. THERE IS
A NEED AND ALSO FIND
00:32:44.49\00:32:45.89
OUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN YOUR
COMMUNITY WHERE THIS ISSUE IS
00:32:45.89\00:33:04.28
CONCERNED. >> WE HAD
A YOUNG LADY WHO CAME
00:33:04.28\00:33:06.92
INTO OUR CHURCH JUST RECENTLY
WHO THE THINGS THAT GOD WAS --
00:33:06.92\00:33:48.86
THE -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY RED
FLAGS BUT WHERE GOD WAS TUGGING
00:33:48.86\00:33:53.70
AT MY HEART IT WAS LIKE I
SEE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT WOMAN.
00:33:53.70\00:33:56.23
I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE
THAT IT'S AN ABUSE.
00:33:56.23\00:33:58.73
IF WE DON'T GET TRAINED, YOU
KNOW, LIKE I'VE MINISTERED WITH
00:33:58.73\00:34:03.24
SHEREE AND SHEREE I PROMISE YOU
WE COULD BE SITTING ON A STAGE
00:34:03.24\00:34:07.28
AND SHE'S LOOKING OUT AT
SOMEBODY AND SHE SAYS TO ME,
00:34:07.28\00:34:12.25
THAT'S A DRUG ADDICT AND THIS
ONE IS A HOMOSEXUAL AND I SAY
00:34:12.25\00:34:17.32
HOW DO YOU YOU
KNOW BY JUST LOOKING.
00:34:17.32\00:34:19.75
IT'S BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN
EDUCATED AND EXPERIENCE AND
00:34:19.75\00:34:21.99
YOU'RE TRAINED TO RECOGNIZE
THESE PEOPLE SO THAT YOU CAN
00:34:21.99\00:34:24.19
REACH OUT AND HELP THEM.
>> EVEN THOUGH I AGREE THAT
00:34:24.19\00:34:28.43
THAT'S A LARGE PART OF
IT KNOWING AND BEING TRAINED
00:34:28.43\00:34:32.50
ESPECIALLY IN WHAT TO SAY
AND WHATNOT TO SAY BECAUSE MANY
00:34:32.50\00:34:34.97
TIMES WE SAY THE WRONG THING AND
THAT'S WHERE TRAINING COMES IN,
00:34:34.97\00:34:39.87
BUT I'VE DISCOVERED AS I HAVE
BECOME PASSIONATE ABOUT WOMEN'S
00:34:39.87\00:34:46.41
PAIN, THE PAIN THAT WOMEN DEAL
WITH, IT'S LIKE LITTLE RED FLAGS
00:34:46.41\00:34:50.39
GO OFF WHEN I SEE PEOPLE.
I'LL BE IN AN AIRPORT AND A
00:34:50.39\00:34:53.92
PLANE AND I LOOK
ACROSS AND I SEE A WOMAN --
00:34:53.92\00:34:58.56
>> SHE'S A FRIEND. >>
BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S AS
00:34:58.56\00:35:04.00
THOUGH -- WELL, I SHOULDN'T
SAY IT'S AS THOUGH, BECAUSE I
00:35:04.00\00:35:09.70
BELIEVE GOD CREATES
AN AWARENESS WITHIN YOU.
00:35:09.70\00:35:12.94
THE GIFT OF DISCERNMENT AND
THAT'S SOMETHING I PRAY FOR,
00:35:12.94\00:35:17.85
LORD, HELP ME DISCERN
WHEN A WOMAN IS IN PAIN.
00:35:17.85\00:35:21.05
THAT'S SOMEONE
THAT ANYONE CAN DO.
00:35:21.05\00:35:22.28
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT -- WE'VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL
00:35:22.28\00:35:26.12
TYPE OF PAIN. LET'S
TALK ABOUT HEALTH ISSUES.
00:35:26.12\00:35:33.16
YOU KNOW SPHOMETHING THAT
HAPPENED TODAY, I WAS TYPING ALL
00:35:33.16\00:35:36.53
THE PRAYER REQUESTS THAT GO
ON THE AIR, AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE
00:35:36.53\00:35:40.27
PRAYING JUST PERSONALLY PRAYING
FOR FIVE PEOPLE, FRIENDS, PEOPLE
00:35:40.27\00:35:45.71
IN MINISTRY, WHO
HAVE STAGE FOUR CANCER.
00:35:45.71\00:35:50.51
AND I'M THINKING OF CHARLES
LAWSON WITH WHITE HORSE MINISTRY
00:35:50.51\00:35:55.72
AND GALE TUCKER AND THINKING
OF MOLLIE SUE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
00:35:55.72\00:36:02.49
THE PASTOR'S WIFE AND CHERYL
RIGHT HERE AND AS I'M WORKING ON
00:36:02.49\00:36:12.10
THESE PRAYER REQUESTS I'M
THINKING, STAGE FOUR CANCER.
00:36:12.10\00:36:16.74
STAGE FOUR
CANCER. STAGE FOUR CANCER.
00:36:16.74\00:36:18.94
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYWHERE WE
TURN THERE'S STAGE FOUR CANCER.
00:36:18.94\00:36:24.48
WHAT OTHER THINGS DO YOU SAY
THAT WOMEN ARE HAVING A LOT OF
00:36:24.48\00:36:27.95
PROBLEMS WITH HEALTH
ISSUES? WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?
00:36:27.95\00:36:32.12
>> I SEE THINGS LIKE STRESS
WHICH HAS BROUGHT ON PHYSICAL
00:36:32.12\00:36:35.59
PROBLEMS IN THEIR LIVES BECAUSE
THEY'RE NOT MANAGING THEIR
00:36:35.59\00:36:38.26
STRESS WELL. OR
BECAUSE THEIR WORK LOAD IS
00:36:38.26\00:36:41.16
SUCH THAT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY ON
THE MOVE AND WHEN EVERYBODY IS
00:36:41.16\00:36:45.47
SLEEPING THEY'RE
STILL ON THE MOVE.
00:36:45.47\00:36:46.94
I SEE THINGS LIKE HEART PROBLEMS
THAT IS A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR
00:36:46.94\00:36:52.81
WOMEN GLOBALLY.
CANCER AND BREAST CANCER,
00:36:52.81\00:37:02.55
UTERINE CANCER
AND SO MANY AREAS.
00:37:02.55\00:37:04.89
ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT
I'M SEEING AND I BELIEVE IN MANY
00:37:04.89\00:37:10.26
CASES IT'S UNDIAGNOSED
WOMEN DEALING WITH THINGS LIKE
00:37:10.26\00:37:16.03
FIBROMIAL GENTLEMAN
AND CHRONIC FATIGUE.
00:37:16.03\00:37:17.63
I'M AWARE OF WHAT THOSE SYMPTOMS
ARE LIKE AND I DON'T DIAGNOSIS
00:37:17.63\00:37:21.27
ANYONE BECAUSE I'M NOT A DOCTOR,
BUT WHEN A WOMAN STARTS SHARING
00:37:21.27\00:37:23.94
WITH ME SOME OF THOSE SYMPTOMS
THAT I'VE KNOWN OR I KNOW I SAY
00:37:23.94\00:37:28.98
TO HER, YOU NEED TO SHARE THIS
WITH YOUR DOCTOR, YOU NEED TO
00:37:28.98\00:37:33.82
KNOW THIS IS HOW YOU'RE FEELING,
THE PAIN AND THE JOINTS AND THE
00:37:33.82\00:37:37.35
TIREDNESS AND THE DEPRESSION
AND LACK OF MOTIVATION.
00:37:37.35\00:37:40.22
YOU NEED TO TALK TO SOMEONE
WHO CAN HELP US WITH THIS.
00:37:40.22\00:37:43.36
BECAUSE WOMEN -- EVEN
THOUGH NOBODY TELLS US TO IGNORE
00:37:43.36\00:37:48.16
OURSELVES WE DO. >> OH, YES.
00:37:48.16\00:37:49.93
>> MY MOTHER NEVER TOLD ME IN
WORDS WHEN YOU ARE A WIFE IGNORE
00:37:49.93\00:37:56.00
YOURSELF AND ONLY LOOK AFTER
YOUR HUSBAND AND CHILDREN OF THE
00:37:56.00\00:38:00.61
BUT SHE TOLD ME IN ACTIONS AND
I WENT INTO MY MARRIAGE AND I
00:38:00.61\00:38:05.45
ACTED OUT THE SAME
THING I HAD SEEN IN MY HOME.
00:38:05.45\00:38:08.35
AND I SEE IT
WITH WOMEN EVERYWHERE.
00:38:08.35\00:38:11.82
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS GETTING MY
WEDDING DAY AND AN ELDERLY LADY
00:38:11.82\00:38:19.83
OR AUNT OR DISTANT COUSIN, SHE
WAS REALLY OLD AND SHE WAS AT
00:38:19.83\00:38:24.30
THE RECEPTION AND SHE SAID, COME
SIT DOWN HERE AND I SAT NEXT TO
00:38:24.30\00:38:30.51
HER. AND SHE SAID
TO ME, REMEMBER IN
00:38:30.51\00:38:35.54
EVERY MARRIAGE SOMEONE'S
GOING TO BE THE DONKEY.
00:38:35.54\00:38:41.85
AND THAT'S NOT
THE WORD SHE USED.
00:38:41.85\00:38:43.89
I'M USING THE CHRISTIAN WORD AND
I LOOKED AT HER AND I THOUGHT,
00:38:43.89\00:38:47.49
WHAT? I MEAN, I'M
IN MY WEDDING DRESS
00:38:47.49\00:38:50.73
AND EVERYTHING. JUST
SITTING NEXT TO -- SHE MUST
00:38:50.73\00:38:54.86
HAVE BEEN IN
HER LATE 80S OR 90S.
00:38:54.86\00:38:59.83
SHE SAID, IN EVERY MARRIAGE
SOMEONE'S GOT TO BE THE DONKEY
00:38:59.83\00:39:05.67
AND IT'S GOT TO BE YOU.
I THOUGHT SHE WAS SENILE,
00:39:05.67\00:39:10.05
WHATEVER. YOU KNOW
WHAT, FIVE YEARS AND
00:39:10.05\00:39:12.21
TWO CHILDREN LATER, I WOKE
UP ONE MORNING AND I HAD GROWN
00:39:12.21\00:39:15.55
DONKEY EARS AND DONKEY TAIL.
HERE I WAS LIVING EXACTLY -- I
00:39:15.55\00:39:21.02
THOUGHT, SHE SAID THIS.
WOMEN NATURALLY TAKE ON MORE OF
00:39:21.02\00:39:26.33
THE WORK IN SOCIETY THAN MEN DO.
I'M NOT SAYING MEN DON'T WORK.
00:39:26.33\00:39:30.67
BUT WE DESIGN EVERYTHING.
AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE TO
00:39:30.67\00:39:34.64
BE IN EVERYTHING, BUT WE JUST
-- WE'RE SO WILLING TO HELP AND
00:39:34.64\00:39:38.21
KEEP THE HOUSE CLEANED AND COOK
THE BEST MEALS AND OUR CHILDREN
00:39:38.21\00:39:41.68
HAVE TO BE THE PRETTIEST AND
I'VE GOT TO HELP THIS ONE AND
00:39:41.68\00:39:45.95
THAT ONE AND GET THERE AND
MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S FIXED.
00:39:45.95\00:39:48.98
>> AND WE WORK OURSELVES --
>> AND WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK AND
00:39:48.98\00:40:02.76
COOK THE BACON IN THE SKILLET.
>> AND WORK LOAD WHICH IS ONE OF
00:40:02.76\00:40:05.93
THE ISSUES WE DEAL IT, WOMEN'S
WORK LOAD IS CONNECTED TO THE
00:40:05.93\00:40:10.74
HEALTH PROBLEM AND IF YOU LOOK
AT THESE SIX ISSUES WHICH WE
00:40:10.74\00:40:14.71
STARTED OFF WITH,
THEY'RE ALL INTERCONNECTED.
00:40:14.71\00:40:17.95
BECAUSE IF I CAN'T READ
MY HEALTH WILL BE EFFECTED.
00:40:17.95\00:40:23.79
I NEED SOMETHING FOR MY CHILD.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND I'VE
00:40:23.79\00:40:27.56
NO IDEA WHAT TO ASK FOR AND I
DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ONMENT
00:40:27.56\00:40:30.29
POVERTY TIES INTO IT.
WOMEN'S WORK LOAD TIES INTO MY
00:40:30.29\00:40:34.46
HEALTH, TIES INTO POVERTY
BECAUSE MANY TIMES I WORK SO
00:40:34.46\00:40:37.63
MUCH THAT I END UP HAVING
A NERVOUS BREAKDOWN BUT NOW I
00:40:37.63\00:40:40.90
CAN'T WORK AND THE FAMILY NEEDS
TWO INCOMES BUT NOW I CAN'T
00:40:40.90\00:40:45.04
BECAUSE I'M ON DISABILITY
FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
00:40:45.04\00:40:47.34
THERE ARE ALL THESE ISSUES AND
SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO
00:40:47.34\00:40:56.55
HELP OUR SISTERS IDENTIFY
WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR LIVES.
00:40:56.55\00:41:01.66
I SAY, PUT UP FIVE FINGERS.
LITTLE FINGER IS NUMBER FIVE AND
00:41:01.66\00:41:07.00
THUMB IS NUMBER ONE. IF
GOD IS NUMBER ONE IN YOUR
00:41:07.00\00:41:10.70
LIFE WHERE ARE YOU ON THAT?
I HAVE THE LADIES LIKE THIS.
00:41:10.70\00:41:14.77
I DO ALL OVER THE
WORLD. AND I SEE THEM THINKING.
00:41:14.77\00:41:19.07
I SAID, OKAY, TELL
ME ARE YOU ON THE HAND?
00:41:19.07\00:41:25.31
HOW MANY OF YOU ARE NOT ON
THE HAND AND YOU'LL SEE HOW MANY
00:41:25.31\00:41:27.92
HANDS GO UP. IT'S
GOD, HUSBAND AND CHILDREN
00:41:27.92\00:41:32.19
AND OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AND
CHURCH AND IT'S -- AND THEY'RE
00:41:32.19\00:41:35.79
NOT EVEN THERE.
I SAY TO MY LADIES.
00:41:35.79\00:41:38.83
I SAID O-BEEN OKAY,
LET'S RESTRUCTURE THIS.
00:41:38.83\00:41:44.67
GOD, YOU. I LOVE
THAT OLD HYMN THAT SAYS
00:41:44.67\00:41:49.44
NOTHING BETWEEN MY
LORD AND MY SAVIOR.
00:41:49.44\00:41:51.27
NOT HUSBAND, NOT
CHILDREN NOT ANYBODY.
00:41:51.27\00:41:54.18
GOD AND ME. AND
WHEN I PUT MYSELF IN THAT
00:41:54.18\00:41:58.38
POSITION, WHICH MANY PEOPLE
SAY, THAT'S SO SELFISH PUTTING
00:41:58.38\00:42:01.62
YOURSELF BEFORE EVERYONE
ELSE. BUT WHEN I LOOK AFTER ME,
00:42:01.62\00:42:04.19
EVERYBODY ELSE IS
HAPPY. I'M NOT SO STRESSED.
00:42:04.19\00:42:10.49
I'M SO MISERABLE AND IRRITABLE
AND ANGRY AND SICK ALL THE TIME
00:42:10.49\00:42:15.53
AND I'M ABLE TO SHARE THAT JOYCE
AND SUNSHINE WITH MY FAMILY AND
00:42:15.53\00:42:19.53
WITH MY FRIENDS
AND WHEREVER I AM.
00:42:19.53\00:42:21.24
SO WE ARE TRYING TO HELP OUR
WOMEN RETHINK AND RESTRUCTURE
00:42:21.24\00:42:27.08
THE WAY THEY THINK ABOUT
THEMSELVES AND THEIR LIFE.
00:42:27.08\00:42:35.58
>> THAT REALLY
SOUNDS FOREIGN TO ME.
00:42:35.58\00:42:39.95
>> THAT'S AN EXCELLENT
POINT. >> WE'VE GOT TO LIVE IT.
00:42:39.95\00:42:42.92
BUT IT'S AMAZING WHEN I SEE
THE EXPRESSION ON WOMEN'S FACES.
00:42:42.92\00:42:47.36
>> LIKE MINE. >>
WHETHER IT'S IN AFRICA OR
00:42:47.36\00:42:51.20
ASIA OR EUROPE,
AUSTRALIA, DOESN'T MATTER.
00:42:51.20\00:42:54.60
I'M NOT ON THE HAND. SO,
HOW -- WHO IS LOOKING AFTER
00:42:54.60\00:43:01.68
YOU? IT'S TRUE.
I'M SURE YOU HEAR
00:43:01.68\00:43:03.55
THIS AND YOU PROBABLY HEAR THIS
THAT PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS TELLING
00:43:03.55\00:43:09.45
ME, IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF OF
YOURSELF AND GIVE TIME TO TAKE
00:43:09.45\00:43:13.89
CARE OF YOURSELF YOU'RE NOT
GOING TO BE ABLE TO MINISTER
00:43:13.89\00:43:16.89
ANYMORE. I'M SURE THAT'S TRUE.
00:43:16.89\00:43:18.83
I'S JUST LIKE I SAID, THAT'S
AN INTERESTING CONCEPT WHAT YOU
00:43:18.83\00:43:23.37
JUST SAID. >> I
NEVER THE OF PUTTING MYSELF
00:43:23.37\00:43:27.17
THERE. WOULD YOU?
00:43:27.17\00:43:28.97
>> NOTHING'S BETWEEN
ME AND GOD, THAT'S RIGHT.
00:43:28.97\00:43:31.31
>> AS FAR AS PRIORITIES IN
YOUR LIFE, DO YOU PUT YOURSELF
00:43:31.31\00:43:35.08
SECOND? >> NO.
00:43:35.08\00:43:36.44
YOU DON'T. YOU GO
GOD, HOUSE, JEREMY 3ABN.
00:43:36.44\00:43:52.43
>> BUT WE GOT TO RETHINK IT
BECAUSE THESE THINGS EFFECT OUR
00:43:52.43\00:43:58.03
LIVES. WHEN WE
LOOK AT THE PAIN IN
00:43:58.03\00:43:59.63
OURSELVES IF ONLY WE
TAKE A MOMENT AND STOP.
00:43:59.63\00:44:05.37
YOU KNOW, THIS SABBATH I'LL BE
TALKING ABOUT THE SPRING OF LIFE
00:44:05.37\00:44:11.65
AND IT'S SPRING AGAIN AND WE'RE
LOOKING AT THE WINTER OF LIFE.
00:44:11.65\00:44:15.62
YOU THINK OF WINTER OF
BEING TRIALS BUT IT'S NOT.
00:44:15.62\00:44:19.59
IT MAYBE DIFFICULT EMOTIONALLY
AND PHYSICALLY, BUT IT CAN BE A
00:44:19.59\00:44:23.22
GOOD TIME BECAUSE IT'S A TIME
FOR YOU TO STOP AND RETHINK AND
00:44:23.22\00:44:27.23
FOR GOD TO PLUCK AWAY STRESS
WE DON'T NEED IN OUR LIVES.
00:44:27.23\00:44:30.37
IT'S A TIME FOR US TO LOOK
AT OUR GOALS AND OUR PRIORITIES.
00:44:30.37\00:44:34.37
IT'S A GOOD TIME AS
WELL AS A ROUGH TIME.
00:44:34.37\00:44:37.87
SO WHEN THE SPRING DOES COME.
WE'RE NOT THE SAME PEOPLE WE
00:44:37.87\00:44:41.01
WERE AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE WINTERTIME.
00:44:41.01\00:44:43.61
>> THAT'S GOOD. >> SO,
YES, IT TAKES A SHIFT BUT
00:44:43.61\00:44:46.92
THE THING IS, AS I THINK OF IT
FOR ME, THIS APPLIES TO ALL THE
00:44:46.92\00:44:51.79
WOMEN THAT I NEED WHETHER IN
THE CHURCH OR OUT OF THE CHURCH,
00:44:51.79\00:44:54.62
THEY'RE ALL
STRUGGLING WITH THE SAME THING.
00:44:54.62\00:44:57.23
>> YOU KNOW, I LOVE THE FACT
THAT YOU STATED TONIGHT ON LIVE
00:44:57.23\00:45:04.17
TELEVISION THAT
YOU SCREAMED AT GOD.
00:45:04.17\00:45:08.00
I HAD -- AND I THINK THAT I'M
SAYING THIS SO THAT -- PLEASE,
00:45:08.00\00:45:14.84
DON'T TAKE ME WRONG. IT
IS ABOUT BEING REAL WITH GOD.
00:45:14.84\00:45:21.62
GOD KNOWS WHAT IS IN YOUR HEART
AND IT'S GOOD TO GET IT OUT.
00:45:21.62\00:45:25.09
THAT'S HOW WHEN YOU START
POUR OUT TO GOD HE CAN POUR IN.
00:45:25.09\00:45:30.29
I WAS GIVEN A BAD
TEACHING ON FAITH.
00:45:30.29\00:45:32.99
I HAD FAITH WAS
THE OBJECT OF MY FAITH.
00:45:32.99\00:45:35.83
YOU JUST HAD FAITH ENOUGH THAT
YOU COULD -- GOD HAD TO DO WHAT
00:45:35.83\00:45:41.57
HIS WORD SAID. AND
WHEN MY MOTHER WAS HAVING A
00:45:41.57\00:45:45.41
BREAKDOWN AND SHE WAS BIPOLAR
AND MOUNTAIN MIDST OF THIS, I
00:45:45.41\00:45:51.61
WAS CONVINCED THAT GOD WAS
GOING TO HEAL MY MOTHER AND I'M
00:45:51.61\00:45:56.99
CLAIMING THOSE
PROMISES AND I'M WORKING IT.
00:45:56.99\00:46:01.76
AND HE DIDN'T. AND IT
ENDED UP OF COURSE SHE
00:46:01.76\00:46:04.46
WENT INTO THE HOSPITAL.
SHE GOT BACK ON MEDICATION.
00:46:04.46\00:46:07.23
SHE WAS FINE. BUT IT
WAS SO TRAU MATTIC IN
00:46:07.23\00:46:14.80
BETWEEN.
00:46:14.80\00:46:15.00
I WAS SO UPSET WITH GOD.
THIS IS MANY, MANY, MANY, MANY
00:46:16.07\00:46:21.01
YEARS AGO. I WAS IN
MY 20S THAT I SHOOK MY
00:46:21.01\00:46:27.52
FIST IN HIS FACE AND SAID,
YOU DON'T KEEP YOUR WORD AND I
00:46:27.52\00:46:30.02
WALKED AWAY FROM THE
LORD. FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.
00:46:30.02\00:46:35.26
I MEAN, I JUST TURNED MY
BACK AND SAID, FORGET IT.
00:46:35.26\00:46:39.73
AND HE CHASED ME
DOWN. HE CHASED ME DOWN.
00:46:39.73\00:46:44.53
PRAY FOR THE LORD,
HE NEVER GAVE UP ON ME.
00:46:44.53\00:46:48.34
>> I DISCOVERED I MAY RUN
FROM HIM BUT HE'S ALREADY AT THE
00:46:48.34\00:46:53.14
DESTINATION WAITING FOR ME.
>> WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEALING
00:46:53.14\00:46:58.48
WITH LIFE'S PAINS AND THERE IS
SOMEONE OUT THERE TO NIGHT YOU
00:46:58.48\00:47:02.72
MAY BE FEELING YOU'RE SO MAD AT
GOD AND YOU'RE AFRAID TO ADMIT
00:47:02.72\00:47:09.29
IT. WE HAD A
PSYCHOLOGIST WHO CALLED
00:47:09.29\00:47:10.93
AND TALKED WITH MY HUSBAND AND
BLESS HER HEART SHE WAS MAD AT
00:47:10.93\00:47:14.73
GOD AND SHE JUST -- IT WAS ONE
OF THOSE THINGS SHE DIDN'T KNOW
00:47:14.73\00:47:18.93
WHO TO TELL SO SHE CALLED THE
PRAYER LINE AND SHE WORKED IT
00:47:18.93\00:47:22.24
OUT. BUT IT'S
OKAY TO BE REAL WITH
00:47:22.24\00:47:25.14
GOD. I DON'T
WANT TO TAKE ALL THE
00:47:25.14\00:47:27.08
TIME BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME MORE.
>> I WAS THINKING ABOUT 20 YEARS
00:47:27.08\00:47:33.31
AGO NOW HELEN AND I WENT THROUGH
ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT PHASES
00:47:33.31\00:47:39.52
OF OUR WHOLE LIFE. I
LOST EVERYTHING AND IN THE
00:47:39.52\00:47:44.46
MIDST OF THAT I HAD CANCER. A
00:47:44.46\00:47:51.87
BUT IT WAS IN THAT TIME
-- WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PAIN.
00:47:51.87\00:47:54.77
PAINFUL TIMES
THAT WE GO THROUGH.
00:47:54.77\00:47:59.94
YOU GO THROUGH THAT FURNACE BUT
THAT'S THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THAT
00:47:59.94\00:48:04.98
GOD FINDS YOU IN THE FURNACE AND
IT'S WHEN YOU'RE IN THAT -- AND
00:48:04.98\00:48:10.52
HELEN AND I BOTH SAID THIS, WE
DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH WHAT WE
00:48:10.52\00:48:14.12
WENT TRUE EVER AGAIN THOSE HARD
TIMES, THOSE PAINFUL TIMES WHERE
00:48:14.12\00:48:17.96
YOU LOSE EVERYTHING
YOU AND HAVE TO START OVER.
00:48:17.96\00:48:20.46
YOU HAVE TO REINVENT
YOURSELF AT 45 YEARS OLD.
00:48:20.46\00:48:23.20
I HAVE TO REINVENT WHO YOU
ARE AND COME TO A WHOLE OTHER
00:48:23.20\00:48:32.21
IDENTIFYING OF YOURSELF.
BUT I WOULDN'T CHANGE WHAT WE
00:48:32.21\00:48:34.68
WENT THROUGH FOR ANYTHING
BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES THAT GOT
00:48:34.68\00:48:37.91
EFFECTED ON THE INSIDE OF US.
SO, PAINFUL TIMES ARE HARD AND
00:48:37.91\00:48:43.62
NOBODY WANTS TO GO THROUGH THEM,
BUT USE THEM TO GIVE YOURSELF TO
00:48:43.62\00:48:48.79
GOD TO ALLOW HIM TO DO THAT WORK
WITHIN YOU BECAUSE YOU'LL GET TO
00:48:48.79\00:48:55.93
THE OTHER SIDE. WE
PARTICULARLY AS STRONG AND
00:48:55.93\00:49:00.17
GODLY WOMEN WE CAN MAKE THESE
STATEMENTS LIKE, IF YOU FAINT IN
00:49:00.17\00:49:03.10
THE DAY OF ADVERSITY
YOUR STRENGTH IS SMALL.
00:49:03.10\00:49:08.91
IF YOU FEIGN IN THE DAY
OF ADVERSITY YOUR STRENGTH IS
00:49:08.91\00:49:12.31
SMALL. I WROTE
BY THAT SCRIPTURE IN
00:49:12.31\00:49:15.38
1986 I WILL NEVER FAINT.
BECAUSE I AM STRONG IN THE LORD
00:49:15.38\00:49:18.49
AND IN THE POWER OF HIS MIGHT.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER I WOULD OR
00:49:18.49\00:49:22.42
NOT. I HAD
NEVER BEEN THROUGH ANY
00:49:22.42\00:49:24.39
ADVERSITY. BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT, I CAN'T SAY
00:49:24.39\00:49:26.86
THAT TODAY. GOD
TAKES YOU THROUGH SOME
00:49:26.86\00:49:29.36
ADVERSITY SKPIT'S NOT WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING ON THIS SIDE OF
00:49:29.36\00:49:35.97
ADVERSITY BUT WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING IN THE ADVERSITY AND THE
00:49:35.97\00:49:38.51
TESTIMONY YOU HAVE WHEN
YOU GET ON THE OTHER SIDE.
00:49:38.51\00:49:46.75
WE'RE TO BE CON FORMED
TO THE IMAGE OF CHRIST.
00:49:46.75\00:49:49.12
>> YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THAT
YOU DIDN'T FEEL THAT GOD LOVED
00:49:49.12\00:49:52.55
YOU AND I WAS -- I EXPERIENCED
MUCH OF THE SAME THING WE WAS
00:49:52.55\00:49:56.69
GOING THROUGH THAT, BUT FOR
THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE WATCHING
00:49:56.69\00:49:59.73
TONIGHT WHO ARE SAYING I DON'T
BUY THIS WHOLE PICTURE OF A
00:49:59.73\00:50:03.50
LOVING GOD AND I DON'T FEEL
LIKE HE LOVES ME OR GOD CAN'T
00:50:03.50\00:50:08.47
IDENTIFY ME. I'VE
BEEN RAPED OR SEXUALLY
00:50:08.47\00:50:11.27
ABUSED OR THIS OR THAT. I
WANT TO READ TWO SCRIPTURES TO
00:50:11.27\00:50:14.98
YOU BECAUSE IT IS -- THIS IS
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT JESUS.
00:50:14.98\00:50:19.68
IN HEBREWS 217 AND 18.
THEREFORE IT ALL THINGS HE HAD
00:50:19.68\00:50:25.02
TO BE MADE LIKE HIS BRETHREN AND
THAT HE MIGHT BE A MERCIFUL HIGH
00:50:25.02\00:50:34.63
PRIEST FOR IN THAT HE HIMSELF
HAS SUFFERED BEING TEMPTED IS
00:50:34.63\00:50:41.47
ABLE TO AID
THOSE WHO ARE TEMPTED.
00:50:41.47\00:50:44.54
THEN IN HEBREWS 4, 14 AND 16 C
00:50:44.54\00:50:48.18
CARRYING ON THE SAME THOUGHT.
SEEING THAT WE HAVE A GREAT HIGH
00:50:48.18\00:50:51.61
PRIEST WHO HAS PASSED THROUGH
THE HEAVENS JESUS, THE SON OF
00:50:51.61\00:50:56.95
GOD, LET US HOLD FAST OUR
CONFESSION FOR WE DO NOT HAVE A
00:50:56.95\00:51:00.86
HIGH PRIEST WHO CANNOT
SYMPATHIZE WITH OUR WEAKNESSES
00:51:00.86\00:51:05.83
BUT AT ALL POINTS
TEMPTED AS WE ARE.
00:51:05.83\00:51:12.30
THEREFORE LET US COME FULLY TO
THE THRONE OF GRACE THAT WE MAY
00:51:12.30\00:51:16.20
FIND GRACE TO
HELP IN TIME OF NEED.
00:51:16.20\00:51:22.58
CHRIST WASN'T
JUST CRUCIFIED FOR US.
00:51:22.58\00:51:25.68
HE SUFFERED IN THE GARDEN AND
WENT THROUGH TRIALS WHERE PEOPLE
00:51:25.68\00:51:31.02
WERE LYING -- NOW, HE HAD, YOU
KNOW, WE'VE BEEN SAYING WE'RE
00:51:31.02\00:51:37.46
GETTING THE JESUS TREATMENT
HERE.  BUT PEOPLE -- HE WENT
00:51:37.46\00:51:42.13
THROUGH EVERY POSSIBLE THING
THAT COULD YOU THINK OF AND YOU
00:51:42.13\00:51:45.93
THINK ABOUT TEMPTATION.
IF WE'RE EVER TEMPTED TO COME
00:51:45.93\00:51:48.37
OFF THE WALL AND TRY TO FIGHT
THE BATTLE FOR OUR SELF THINK
00:51:48.37\00:51:56.44
ABOUT HOW TEMPTED
JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN.
00:51:56.44\00:51:58.08
IF SOMEBODY WAS LYING ABOUT HIM
ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS TURN AND
00:51:58.08\00:52:01.88
LOOK AT HIM AND GIVE HIM A NOD
AND FIRE FROM HEAVEN COULD HAVE
00:52:01.88\00:52:06.76
COME DOWN AND ELIMINATE
HIM. HIS TEMPTATION WAS SO MUCH
00:52:06.76\00:52:10.26
GREATER THAN OURS, BUT
THEN HE WAS PHYSICALLY ABUSED.
00:52:10.26\00:52:14.13
HE WAS BEATEN SO THE POINT I'M
MAKING, HE KNOWS EVERY SINGLE
00:52:14.13\00:52:20.04
PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE EVER BEEN
THROUGH, CHRIST IDENTIFIES WITH
00:52:20.04\00:52:24.97
THAT. AND HE UNDERSTANDS.
00:52:24.97\00:52:26.64
HE IS A SYMPATHETIC HIGH PRIEST.
NOW, THE CONTROL ROOM, I KNOWO
00:52:26.64\00:52:31.31
YOU WANT TO DO
SOMETHING REAL QUICK.
00:52:31.31\00:52:32.98
BEFORE YOU DO, THE CONTROL ROOM
JUST TOLD ME WE NEED TO TALK
00:52:32.98\00:52:37.95
ABOUT YOUR ADDRESS ROLE BECAUSE
YOU MAY BE THINKING -- OH AND I
00:52:37.95\00:52:41.36
WANT TO SAY THIS TOO, THAT
WOMEN'S MINISTRIES HAS SO MANY
00:52:41.36\00:52:48.03
WONDERFUL RESOURCES.
SO WHEN WE COME -- TELL US
00:52:48.03\00:52:51.10
QUICKLY BEFORE WE
GO 0 YOUR ADDRESS ROLE.
00:52:51.10\00:52:53.13
TELL US WHAT SOME
OF THE RESOURCES ARE.
00:52:53.13\00:52:56.04
>> WELL, WHEN IT COMES TO THESE
SIX ISSUES WE HAVE INFORMATION
00:52:56.04\00:53:01.51
FOR YOU ON EACH OF THE ISSUES.
THERE ARE THINGS YOU CAN CALL
00:53:01.51\00:53:04.25
OUR OFFICE AND WE
WILL SEND IT TO YOU.
00:53:04.25\00:53:07.02
BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
WE WANT TO DO IS INFORM WOMEN
00:53:07.02\00:53:11.29
AND EDUCATE OUR WOMEN.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO SAY, HELP
00:53:11.29\00:53:14.49
SOMEONE WHO IS
POOR. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
00:53:14.49\00:53:16.56
HOW DO I DEAL WITH
THAT AND WHAT DO I SAY?
00:53:16.56\00:53:19.36
WE'VE GOT TRAINING RESOURCES AS
WELL AS WE HAVE OTHER RESOURCES
00:53:19.36\00:53:24.03
THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH YOUR
CHURCH TO CREATE AN AWARENESS OF
00:53:24.03\00:53:28.34
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THESE AREAS
OF PAIN AND HURT THAT PEOPLE ARE
00:53:28.34\00:53:32.14
DEALING WITH AND WE KEEP
CREATING MORE AND MORE EVERY
00:53:32.14\00:53:36.01
MONTH. SO
THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL
00:53:36.01\00:53:37.45
THAT YOU CAN GET FROM US.
>> YOU HAD THAT -- WHAT WAS
00:53:37.45\00:53:42.15
IT -- FEELING-- >>
THINKING WELL AND LIVING
00:53:42.15\00:53:44.65
WELL. THAT'S ONE
OF OUR NEWEST ONES,
00:53:44.65\00:53:47.76
YES. >> YOU'VE GOT SOME MORE ARE
00:53:47.76\00:53:49.06
GOING TO BE COMING
OUT. >> WE'RE GOING TO PUT
00:53:49.06\00:53:55.86
HEATHER-DAWN'S ADDRESS UP.
IF YOU LIKE TO GET IN TOUCH OR
00:53:55.86\00:54:00.20
PERHAPS HAVE HER COME
TO YOUR CHURCH AND SPEAK.
00:54:00.20\00:54:02.97
THE ADDRESS IS WOMEN'S
MINISTRIES GENERAL CONFERENCE,
00:54:02.97\00:54:12.38
12501 OLD COLUMBIA PIKE ROAD,
SILVER SPRINGS, MARYLAND, 20904.
00:54:12.38\00:54:19.79
AND THE PHONE
NUMBER IS 301-680-6608.
00:54:19.79\00:54:28.23
AND THE ADDRESS OR THE WEBSITE
ADDRESS IS ADVENTISTWOMENS
00:54:28.23\00:54:37.21
MINISTRIES.ORG. T
00:54:37.21\00:54:40.41
SO YOU WANT TO BE SURE TO CHECK
OUT THEIR WEBSITE FOR ALL THESE
00:54:40.41\00:54:45.61
WONDERFUL RESOURCES THAT WILL BE
AVAILABLE AND THEY HAVE THINGS
00:54:45.61\00:54:48.65
ON THERE YOU WERE EXPLAINING TO
ME EARLIER WHERE PEOPLE -- IT'S
00:54:48.65\00:54:51.82
NOT JUST IF YOU CAN'T FIND A
GROUP TO DO THIS WITH, YOU'VE
00:54:51.82\00:54:55.72
GOT THINGS THAT ACTUALLY PEOPLE
CAN GO THROUGH ON YOUR OWN AT
00:54:55.72\00:54:59.53
HOME. >> SO EVEN
IF YOUR CHURCH THERE
00:54:59.53\00:55:01.36
IS NO WOMEN'S MINISTRIES YOU
CAN GET THE MATERIALS FROM THE
00:55:01.36\00:55:05.77
WEBSITE AND YOU CAN GO
THROUGH THE SEMINAR AND THE HAND
00:55:05.77\00:55:12.54
SKWROUTS ON YOUR OWN
AND EDUCATE YOURSELF.
00:55:12.54\00:55:14.38
WHEN WOMEN ARE EDUCATED THESE
AREAS, THEY'RE EMPOWERED TO DO
00:55:14.38\00:55:19.95
SOMETHING. >> AMEN.
00:55:19.95\00:55:21.05
WE'VE GOT A MINUTE LEFT. W
00:55:21.05\00:55:25.59
WE HAVE A FREE OFFER.
IT'S KEEP AT YOUR WORK.
00:55:25.59\00:55:31.56
IT WAS ON HMS RICHARDS WALL.
IT JUST ENCOURAGES US NOT TO
00:55:31.56\00:55:36.93
GIVE IN TO SATAN'S INFLUENCES
IN OUR LIVES BUT TO STAY AT THE
00:55:36.93\00:55:40.97
WORK THAT GOD
HAS CALLED YOU TO DO.
00:55:40.97\00:55:43.61
SO, GET THIS. FRAME IT.
00:55:43.61\00:55:45.54
PUT IT ON YOUR WALL AND READ IT
EVERY TIME YOU GET DISCOURAGED.
00:55:45.54\00:55:49.18
IT WILL HELP
YOU. >> THAT'S RIGHT.
00:55:49.18\00:55:57.49
618-627-4651 OR E-MAIL US AT F I
00:55:57.49\00:56:02.96
LOVE YOU MY SISTER. YOU
KNOW WHAT ELSE I LIKE IS
00:56:02.96\00:56:06.56
BECAUSE WE'RE SISTERS.
WE'RE FROM THE SAME FAMILY.
00:56:06.56\00:56:11.10
WE'RE BOTH SIX FEET
TALL. >> ONE INCH SHY.
00:56:11.10\00:56:14.34
>> YOU'RE 5'11" AND I'M JUST
A LITTLE BIT TALLER THAN YOU.
00:56:14.34\00:56:18.84
BUT WE ARE SISTER. MOLLIE?
00:56:18.84\00:56:21.18
>> YES, WE ARE. >>
MOLLIE, THEY USED TO THINK
00:56:21.18\00:56:24.31
MOLLIE WAS TALL UNTIL
I GOT HERE.  [LAUGHTER]
00:56:24.31\00:56:26.15
>> I WAS THE TALLEST
ONE UNTIL SHE CAME ALONG.
00:56:26.15\00:56:31.25
>> WELL, OUR TIME HAS ALL GONE.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN AND I
00:56:31.25\00:56:34.76
HOPE YOU HAVE ENJOYED
THIS TIME WITH US AS WELL.
00:56:34.76\00:56:38.03
WE'RE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL THAT
YOU HAVE SPENT SINCE 2005 AS
00:56:38.03\00:56:48.30
WOMEN'S MINISTRIES DIRECTOR
AND JUST RE-ELECTED AGAIN.
00:56:48.30\00:56:50.94
SO WE EXPECT THE LORD IS GOING
TO USE YOU AGAIN IN A MIGHTY
00:56:50.94\00:56:55.58
WAY. AND FOR
MOLLIE AND ME AND FOR
00:56:55.58\00:56:57.88
EVERYONE AT 3ABN OUR PRAYER
FOR YOU IS THAT THE GRACE OF OUR
00:56:57.88\00:57:02.78
LORD JESUS CHRIST, THE LOVE OF
THE FATHER AND THE FELLOWSHIP OF
00:57:02.78\00:57:09.16
THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL BE
WITH YOU TONIGHT AND ALWAYS.
00:57:09.16\00:57:14.86