Participants: Mollie Steenson (Host), Shelley Quinn (Host), Heather Dawn-Small
Series Code: TL
Program Code: TL016511A
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00:08 MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE
00:20 REMOVING PAIN ¤ ¤ LORD, LET MY WORDS HEAL A 00:30 HEART THAT'S HURT ¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE 00:40 MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤ ¤ I WANT TO SPEND MY LIFE, 00:51 MENDING BROKEN PEOPLE ¤ >> HELLO I'M SHELLEY QUINN. 01:11 WE WELCOME YOU INTO 3ABN LIVE. WE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT 01:16 DEALING WITH LIVE PAIN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IT 01:20 IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT BECAUSE WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO TALK 01:29 TO THOSE WHO ARE DEALING WITH PAIN. 01:34 MOLLIE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND GENERAL MANAGER OF 3ABN. 01:40 >> WE WELCOME EVERYONE OF YOU. YOU LET US BRING OUR GUEST RIGHT 01:44 INTO YOUR LIVING ROOM EVERY DAY. >> SO YOU'RE PART OF OUR FAMILY 01:48 AND WE'RE BRINGING YOU ANOTHER MEMBER OF OUR FAMILY. 01:51 CAN'T WAIT UNTIL YOU MEET HER. >> BEFORE I FORGET, I WANT TO 01:57 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LOVE AND PRAYERS AND FINANCIAL 02:02 SUPPORT OF TH3ABN. WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT MENDING 02:07 BROKEN PEOPLE TONIGHT. LET ME INTRODUCE OUR SPECIAL 02:12 GUEST. WE HAVE HEATHER-DAWN SMALL WHO 02:15 IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE WOMEN'S MENSTRYS OF THE 7TH ADVENTIST 02:27 CHURCH. YOU'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2005. 02:30 THAT'S A LONG TIME TO BE SERVING AS WORLD DIRECTOR AND YOU GOT A 02:34 LOT OF STORIES TO TELL. >> OH, YES. 02:36 THAT'S TRUE. >> IN TALKING WITH YOU, THIS 02:42 AFTERNOON AND IN THE PAST, SOMETHING THAT JUST RADIATES 02:46 FROM YOU, HEATHER, IS YOUR LOVE FOR WOMEN AND YOUR DESIRE TO SEE 02:50 WOMEN BE ALL THAT THEY CAN BE. I APPRECIATE YOU SO MUCH. 02:53 >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. 02:55 >> WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING QUESTIONS DURING THE SECOND 02:58 HOUR, SO IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR QUESTIONS IN, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO 03:02 IS CALL US AT 618-627-4651 OR E-MAIL US AT LIVE @ 3ABN.TV. 03:20 WE HAVE A FREE OFFER TONIGHT. >> LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THIS 03:24 FREE OFFER. FOR SOME TIME NOW WE HAVE KIND 03:30 OF HAD JUST SOMETHING THAT 3ABN HAS CHOSEN TO LIVE BY AND 03:36 SOMETHING THAT HMS RICHARDS HAD ON HIS WALL, AND THE AUTHOR IS 03:43 UNKNOWN BUT HMS RICHARDS ALWAYS HAD THIS ON HIS WALL. 03:46 I WANTED TO READ IT TO YOU. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT HERE 03:50 AT 3ABN AND MAYBE IN OUR PERSONAL LIVES AS WELL THERE ARE 03:55 TIMES WHEN PEOPLE COME AGAINST US OR SAY HARSH THINGS ABOUT US 04:01 OR MAKE ACCUSATIONS. MAYBE IT NEVER HAPPENS TO YOU 04:04 BUT IT HAPPENS TO US OCCASIONALLY. 04:07 WE HAVE PEOPLE ASK US SOMETIMES WHY DON'T YOU EVER DEFEND 04:12 YOURSELF. AND WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THAT'S 04:15 THE DEVIL WORD TO DO ALL THIS DEFENDING. 04:18 SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING NOT TOO LONG AGO. 04:20 THEY SAID IF SOMEBODY'S TALKING ABOUT YOU, THAT'S NONE OF YOUR 04:24 BUSINESS. THAT'S GOD'S BUSINESS. 04:26 AND SO, WE KIND OF HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT MINDSET BECAUSE THE 04:34 LORD HAS SAW THIS MINISTRY TO DO MIGHTY WORK ALL OVER THIS WORLD 04:40 HEATHER-DAWN. THE THREE ANGEL'S MESSAGE GOING 04:44 FORTH OVER THE NETWORK IS REACHING THE FOUR CORNERS OF THE 04:47 EARTH. I WANTED TO READ THIS TO YOU. 04:50 IT'S KEEP AT WORK. THIS IS OUR FREE OFFER IF YOU 04:52 WOULD LIKE TO GET IT. SHELLEY TOLD YOU HOW. 04:55 YOU CAN CALL US AT 618-627-4651 OR LIVE @3ABN.TV. 05:06 JUST CALL US OR WRITE AND WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE THIS AVAILABLE TO 05:09 YOU. BUT I WANT TO READ IT TO YOU. 05:12 IT'S KEEP IT YOUR WORD. THE LORD HAS GIVEN TO EVERYONE 05:15 HIS WORD. AND IT IS THE DEVIL'S BUSINESS 05:20 FROM HINDER MAN FROM DOING IT. HE MAY PRESENT OTHER THINGS MORE 05:25 PROMISING AND MAY ALLURE YOU IS ASSAULT YOU WITH SLANDER, 05:29 TORMENT YOU WITH FALSE ACCUSATIONS AND CAUSE YOU TO 05:33 WORK AT DEFENDING YOUR CHARACTER AND EMPLOY PERSONS TO LIE ABOUT 05:40 YOU AND EDITORS TO ASSAULT YOU AND EXCELLENT MAN TO SLANDER 05:44 YOU. YOU MAY HAVE PILOT, HEROD ALL 05:50 COMBINED AGAINST YOU. JUDAS, STANDING BY YOU TO SELL 05:54 YOU FOR 32 PIECES OF SILVER. YOU MAY WONDER WHY ALL THESE 05:59 THINGS HAVE COME UP ON YOU. CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT THIS IS 06:03 BROUGHT ABOUT THROUGH THE CRAFT OF THE DEVIL TO DRAW YOU AWAY 06:07 FROM YOUR WORK AND TO HINDER YOU FROM YOUR OBEDIENCE TO GOD. 06:13 KEEP ABOUT YOUR WORK. DO NOT FLINCH BECAUSE THE LION'S 06:20 ROAR AND DO NOT WASTE AWAY YOUR TIME CHASING THE DEVIL'S RABBIT 06:23 AND DO NOT WORK - DO YOUR WORK. LET LIARS LIFE AND LET 06:31 SECTARIANS QUARREL AND LET CORPORATIONS RESOLVE AND EDITORS 06:35 PUBLISH. LET THE DEVILS DO HIS WORSE BUT 06:39 SEE TO IT THAT NOTHING HINDERS FROM FULFILLING THE WORK THAT 06:42 GOD HAS GIVEN YOU TO DO. HE HAS NOT SENT YOU TO MAKE 06:49 MONEY AND BID YOU TO DEFEND YOUR CHARACTER AND NOT SENT YOU AT 06:53 WORK TO CONTRADICT FALSEHOODS WHICH SATAN AND HIS SERVANTS MAY 06:57 START TO PEDDLE. IF YOU DO THESE THINGS YOU WILL 07:01 DO NOTHING ELSE. YOU WILL BE AT WORK FOR YOURSELF 07:04 AND NOT FOR THE LORD. KEEP ABOUT YOUR WORK. 07:08 LET YOUR AIM BE AS STEADY AS A STAR AND LET THE WORLD BRAWL AND 07:12 BUBBLE. YOU MAY BE ASSAULTED, WRONGED, 07:19 WOUNDED AND DESPISED AND REJECTED OF MEN. 07:23 SEE TO IT WITH STEDFAST DETERMINATION AND UNFALTERED 07:28 ZEAL THAT YOU PURSUE THE GREAT PURPOSE OF YOUR LIFE AND OBJECT 07:32 OF YOUR BEING UNTIL AT LAST YOU CAN SAY, I HAVE FINISHED THE 07:41 WORK WHICH THOU GAVEITH ME TO DO. 07:43 IT'S BEAUTIFUL ACTUALLY AND WE MADE THEM IN A CONDITION SO THAT 07:48 YOU CAN FRAME THEM AND DO JUST WHAT HMS RICHARDS DID, HANG IT 07:53 ON YOUR WALL SO EVERY TIME YOU ARE TEMPTED TO START DEFENDING 07:58 YOURSELF AT THE EXPENSE OF DOING WHAT GOD'S CALLED YOU TO DO, YOU 08:02 CAN READ THIS AND GET BACK TO DOING THE WORK GOD'S CALLED YOU 08:05 TO DO. >> BOY, I TELL YOU THERE HAVE 08:09 BEEN A NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE WE HAD TO READ THAT. 08:15 BECAUSE WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING IT'S SO TEMPTING TO 08:18 WANT TO STAND UP AND DEFEND YOURSELF. 08:20 BUT THAT'S WHAT THE DEVIL IS TRYING TO DO IS JUST TO KEEP YOU 08:25 FROM DOING THE LORD'S WORK. >> WHEN SOMEBODY IS RUNNING YOU 08:27 DOWN, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING BAD ABOUT YOU, SLANDERING YOU, THAT 08:31 IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT PEOPLE SAY BUT. 08:34 THAT'S GOD'S BUSINESS. >> AMEN. 08:35 >> YOU JUST DO THE WORK GOD'S CALLED TO YOU DO. 08:37 >> AMEN. >> AND IT IS ON A LOVELY STOCK 08:41 PAPER THAT IS SUITABLE FOR FRAMING SO THIS IS SOMETHING 08:44 YOU'D LIKE IT DID LIKE HMS RICHARDS DID HANG THIS ON YOUR 08:48 WALL AND YOU CAN BE ENCOURAGED FROM TIME TO TIME. 08:52 WELL BEFORE WE JUMP INTO OUR TOPIC, WE KNOW YOU LOVE MUSIC 08:57 AND WE LOVE THE PERSON WHO IS ABOUT TO SING US A BEAUTIFUL 09:02 SONG. THIS IS OUR OWN YVONNE LEWIS WHO 09:06 IS DR. YVONNE LEWIS, THE GENERAL MANAGER FOR DARE TO DREAM 09:14 NETWORK AND YVONNE IS GOING TO BE SINGING "THAT NAME." 09:29 PUSH 09:37 PRECIOUS ¤ ¤ A NAME SO WONDERFUL, A NAME 09:47 THAT'S WORTHY OF ALL PRAISE BECAUSE OF YOU I AM MADE FREE ¤ 10:01 ¤ AND THAT NAME IS JESUS, THE ONE WHO GAVE HIS LIFE FOR ME ¤ 10:15 ¤ BECAUSE OF LOVE SO UNCONDITIONABLE, I WILL HAVE 10:24 LIFE ETERNALLY ¤ ¤ OOH ¤ 10:45 ¤ HIS NAME SPEAKS TO ALL ME, HIS NAME IS CALM TO ALL ME 11:04 ¤ WHEN I SING THAT NO ONE LOVES ME, HIS LOVE EMBRACE IS FOR ME ¤ 11:23 ¤ HE'S THE ONE WHO GAVE HIS LIFE FOR ME ¤ 11:29 ¤ BECAUSE OF LOVE, SO UNCONDITIONAL ¤ 11:36 ¤ I WILL HAVE LIFE ETERNALLY ¤ PUSH 11:46 ¤ OH PRAISE HIS NAME, PRAISE HIS STPHAEUPL ¤ 12:00 ¤ PRAISE THE NAME, PRAISE HIS NAME ¤ 12:47 ¤ BECAUSE IT'S A LOVE SO 13:11 UNCONDITIONAL I WILL HAVE LIFE ETERNALLY ¤ 13:35 ¤ ¤ 14:03 >> PRAISE THY HOLY NAME OF JESUS, AMEN. 14:06 THERE IS NO OTHER NAME BY WHICH - NO OTHER NAME BY WHICH 14:15 MEN ARE SAVED. I WANT TO SHARE A SCRIPTURE 14:20 ISAIAH 61 VERSUS 1 THROUGH 3 AND THIS IS THE WHAT THE LORD OF THE 14:25 SAYS. THE SPUR OF THE LORD IS UPON ME. 14:32 BECAUSE THE LORD HAS ANOINTED ME TO PREACH GOOD TIDING TO THE 14:37 POOR AND SENT ME TO HEAL THE BROKEN HEARTED AND PROCLAIM 14:41 LIBERTY TO THE CAPTIVES AND THE OPENING OF THE PRISON TO THOSE 14:45 WHO ARE BOUND AND PROCLAIM THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF THE LORD. 14:52 TO COMFORT ALL WHO MOURN AND TO CONSOLE THOSE WHO MOURN IN ZION 14:57 TO GIVE THEM BEAUTY FOR ASHES AND THE OIL OF JOY FOR 15:03 MOURNING,, THE GARMENT OF PRAISE AND PLANTING OF THE LURED THAT 15:10 HE MAY BE GLORIFIED. AND I LOVE THIS EXPLAINS - 15:17 THESE SCRIPTURES EXPLAIN THE MINISTRY OF JESUS CHRIST. 15:22 AND IT IS BY HIS METHOD ALONE WE'RE GOING TO FINISH THIS WORK. 15:26 AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. 15:29 ONCE AGAIN, OUR SPECIAL GUEST IS HEATHER-DAWN SMALL WHO IS THE 15:34 DIRECTOR OF WOMEN'S MINISTRIES FOR THE GENERAL CONFERENCE OF 15:42 7TH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH. 15:44 >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. IT'S ALWAYS A JOY COMING TO 15:49 3ABN. >> HEATHER-DAWN, WOULD YOU MIND, 15:51 SOME TIME DURING THE EVENING I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE YOUR STORY 15:55 ONCE MORE ABOUT YOUR SON AND THE PAIN YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH BUT 15:57 I'LL LET YOU KICK THIS OFF HOWEVER YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF. 16:01 >> WELL, WHEN WE THINK OF EVANGELISM AND SHARING THE 16:08 GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST WITH OTHER PEOPLE, THE METHOD THAT 16:12 WE'VE USED HAS NOT ALWAYS REFLECTED THE METHOD OF JESUS 16:15 CHRIST. AND I GUESS THAT'S BEEN ONE OF 16:19 MY GREATEST CONCERNS. AND IT'S A CONCERN OF THE CHURCH 16:23 THAT - >> JUST KIND OF BACK UP FOR A 16:26 MINUTE. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE METHOD THAT 16:28 WE USED HAS NOT ALWAYS BEEN THE METHOD USED 16:32 >> I GREW UP IN THE 7TH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH AND I REMEMBER 16:39 BEFORE WHAT WE WAS THEN CALLED M. V.AND NOW CALLED M.Y. WE 16:43 WOULD BE TAKEN OUT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND KNOCK ON 16:46 PEOPLE'S DOORS AND WE'D SAY WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU A BIBLE 16:50 STUDY. SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY, NO AND 16:52 SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY SURE. AND WE'D GIVE THEM A BIBLE STUDY 16:57 AND TAKE THEIR NAME AND GO BACK AND GIVE THEM MORE AND MORE AND 17:00 HOPEFULLY THEY WOULD GET BAPTIZED. 17:02 BUT AT NO POINT IN TIME IN THAT PROCESS DID WE EVER ASK HOW ARE 17:08 YOU DOING? WHAT ARE YOUR NEEDS? 17:10 WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR LIFE? AND AS I'VE WORKED IN WOMEN'S 17:15 MINISTRIES THROUGH THE YEARS, I COME TO THE REALIZATION, NOT 17:18 JUST NOW, A LONG TIME AGO, THAT WHEN JESUS MINISTERED HIS DESIRE 17:27 WASN'T JUST SPIRITUAL HEALING. HE WANTED PEOPLE TO BE 17:32 PHYSICALLY HEALED AND EMOTIONALLY HEALED AND SOCIALLY 17:35 HEALED AND ALL ONE PACKAGE. AT THE CENTER YOU COULD SAY WAS 17:40 THE SPIRITUAL HEALING BUT JESUS KNEW THAT WASN'T ALL THAT THERE 17:43 WAS TO IT, THAT HE WAS DEALING WITH THE WHOLE PERSON. 17:48 >> SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THEN IS THE CHURCH, WHEN YOU SAY THAT WE 17:52 HAVEN'T ALWAYS USED CHRIST'S METHOD, WE USE IT BUT NOT THE 17:56 WHOLE PACKAGE. >> NOT THE WHOLE PACKAGE. 17:59 >> THE WORD ONLY ESSENTIALLY. YES. 18:02 IT'S NOT THAT AS A CHURCH WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THINGS TO 18:06 HELP OTHER PEOPLE. I GREW UP IN THE CHURCH AND I 18:09 RECALL VERY WELL BEING A JUNIOR SOCIETY MEMBER WHERE THEY HAD 18:16 THE TEENAGED GIRLS INVOLVED AND I HAD MY GREEN UNIFORM AND GREEN 18:21 CAP AND GO THERE AFTER SCHOOL AND CHANGE MY CLOTHES AND I HELP 18:25 WITH SORTING CLOTHES AND WASHING CLOTHES AND IRONING THINGS. 18:29 BUT WE DO IT IN TWO SEPARATE WAYS. 18:32 COMMUNITY SERVICE DOES IT ONE THING AND THE EVANGELIST DO 18:37 THEIR THING BUT WHEN JESUS HE BROUGHT IT TOGETHER AND DID IT 18:43 AT THE SAME TIME AND AS A CHURCH WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT. 18:46 I THINK WE NEED TO DO EVEN MORE. WHEN WE GO INTO A COMMUNITY TO 18:52 DO, FOR EXAMPLE, MEETINGS, WE NEED TO HAVE BEEN IN THAT 18:57 COMMUNITY WEEKS BEFORE THE MEETING - MONTHS BEFORE, 19:00 GETTING TO KNOW THE PEOPLE AND GETTING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE 19:02 NEEDS OF THIS TOWN, THIS VILLAGE WERE SO THAT WHEN WE COME WE'RE 19:08 NOT JUST COMING WITH THE WORD OF GOD BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT THESE 19:13 PEOPLE NEED. >> I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING - 19:16 AT LEAST WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THAT OUR APPROACH - 19:23 SOMETIMES RECENTLY I INTERVIEWED PAUL WHO WROTE A BOOK. 19:31 THE POINT IS THE PORTION OF THE GOSPEL THAT WE LIFT UP IS CHRIST 19:36 CREW S CRUCIFIED THAT HE CAME AND SET US FREE FROM SIN AND 19:45 REDEEM US BUT WHAT WE'RE FORGETTING IS THAT HE BECAME 19:52 LIKE US IN EVERY WAY. HE SUFFERED FOR US. 19:54 HE WAS TEMPTED AS WE ARE AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU 19:59 WANT MORE TO BE DONE OF THE YOU WANT THE WHOLE THING TO BE LIKE 20:03 JESUS. HE FIRST TOUCHED THE PEOPLE ON A 20:06 ONE ON ONE BASIS, AND THEN HE DELIVERED THE WORD OF GOD. 20:11 >> THAT'S RIGHT. LET ME GIVE YOU A SHORT EXAMPLE. 20:15 WHEN I WAS YOUNG PASTOR'S WIFE I HAD BEEN FOR 3 OR 4 YEARS MY 20:22 HUSBAND ASKED ME TO GIVE BIBLE STUDIES TO THIS PARTICULAR LADY. 20:25 I WOULD GIVE HER A BIBLE STUDY AND I WAS GOING THROUGH THE 20:28 WHOLE SERIES. ONE TIME I GOT TO HER HOME AND 20:31 WHEN SHE OPENED THE DOOR I 0 COULD TELL SHE WAS CRYING. 20:35 HER EYES WERE SWOELEN AND NOSE WAS READ AND SOMETHING WAS 20:39 WRONG. I ASKED HER DO YOU WANT TO DO 20:41 YOUR BIBLE STUDY TODAY. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS IS A 20:44 GOOD DAY. SHE SAID, NO, NO, COME ON IN. 20:49 WE SAT DOWN ON THE USUAL CHAIRS AND I OPENED UP THE LESSON STUDY 20:52 AND I GAVE HER A BIBLE BECAUSE SHE DIDN'T HAVE ONE AND SO I HAD 20:56 MINE AND WE BEGAN GOING THROUGH THE LESSON. 20:59 WELL, ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THE LESSON WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT 21:01 THE LOVE OF GOD AND HOW MUCH HE CARES FOR US, SHE CLOSED HER 21:08 BIBLE AND SHE SAID I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS TODAY. 21:11 I CAN'T DEAL WITH THIS. I SAID, WHY, YOU KNOW GOD LOVES 21:15 YOU. YOU ACCEPTED HIM AS YOUR SAVIOR 21:17 WEEKS AGO. SHE SAID, I DON'T KNOW THAT. 21:19 I DON'T THINK GOD LOVES ME. AND I SAID, WHY WOULD YOU SAY 21:23 THAT? AND SHE PULLED HER DRESS OFF HER 21:25 SHOULDER AND I SAW THE MARKS ON HER BACK AND SHE LOOKED AT ME 21:29 AND SHE SAID, YOU TELL ME WHERE GOD WAS LAST NIGHT WHEN MY 21:32 HUSBAND WAS BEATING ME. I HAVE TO TELL YOU I WAS STUMPED 21:41 BECAUSE THE ONLY THING THAT I KNEW OR I HAD BEEN TAUGHT WHEN 21:45 YOU MEET SOMEONE IN PAIN YOU PRAY FOR THEM. 21:50 SO I SAID TO HER, CAN I PRAY FOR YOU? 21:54 AND SHE SAID NO. AND SHE SAID, I THINK IT'S BEST 21:57 IF YOU LEAVE. AND I REMEMBER MY HEART WAS SO 22:00 HEAVY THAT I WAS LEAVING THIS LADY WITH THIS IMPRESSION THAT 22:04 GOD DIDN'T LOVE HER, BUT I COULDN'T THINK OF A TEXT. 22:06 I COULDN'T THINK OF A QUOTE. I COULDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING 22:09 EXCEPT TO PRAY FOR HER. SO WHEN WE GOT TO THE DOOR I 22:13 ASKED AGAIN CAN I PRAY FOR YOU AND SHE SAID NO. 22:15 SHE NEVER CALLED US BACK FOR ANY LESSONS. 22:17 WELL, YEARS LATER AS I LOOK BACK AT THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION, I 22:23 MEAN, I COULD HAVE JUST - I WAS JUST SO ANGRY WITH MYSELF 22:26 BECAUSE I THOUGHT, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST ASK HER, WELL, CAN I DO 22:30 ANYTHING TO HELP YOU? WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO THE 22:37 DOCTOR? IS THERE A FAMILY MEMBER YOU 22:38 WOULD LIKE TO SEE? WHY WAS IT THAT MY MIND WAS SO 22:42 WRAPPED IN THE MODE OF WHATEVER I PRESENTED HAD TO BE A 22:46 SPIRITUAL, HAD TO BE A SPIRITUAL HELP AND I'M SAYING AS 22:50 CHRISTIANS WE GOT TO GO BEYOND THAT. 22:51 WE'VE GOT TO REALIZE THAT CHRIST'S METHOD WAS NOT ONLY 22:56 SPIRITUAL HEALING. HE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE PERSON 23:00 AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT EVANGELISM WE TALK ABOUT SHARING 23:05 THE GOSPEL, WE'VE ALSO GOT TO TALK ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED IN 23:10 PEOPLE'S LIVES. >> TOUCHING THEM, REACHING OUT 23:12 AND HOLDING THEM AND GIVING OF OURSELVES AND NOT JUST WHAT WE 23:15 KNOW BUT WHAT WE ARE IN MEETING THOSE - HE ALWAYS MET THE 23:20 PHYSICAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS FIRST. 23:23 >> THAT'S RIGHT AND BEING REAL. BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, 23:27 WHICH ONE OF US CHRISTIANS NOW I'M SAYING, WHICH ONE OF US HAS 23:31 NOT EXPERIENCED TROUBLES AND TRIALS? 23:33 WE ALL HAVE AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH THING. 23:37 WHY SHOULD I PRESENT TO THE PEOPLE I MEET SUCH A HOLY IMAGE, 23:41 SUCH A HAPPY PERSON THAT'S NOTHING GONE WRONG IN MY LIFE 23:46 AND I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST AND 23:50 THAT'S NOT WAIT IT WORKS. AND IT BEGINS WITH THE HURTING 23:54 PEOPLE IN OUR CHURCH. THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO BEGIN. 23:55 >> IT'S INTERESTING. WE WERE TALKING EARLIER YOU AND 23:58 KNOW, I MENTIONED IT'S A GOOD THING WE DID TALK EARLIER 24:02 BECAUSE WE GOT SO PASSIONATE THAT WE WERE JUST AT THE EDGE OF 24:06 OUR SEATS AND WE NEEDED TO TEMPER THAT BEFORE WE CAME OUT 24:09 HERE. WHEN WE WERE TALKING - SPEAKING EARLIER, THE PROBLEM IS 24:14 THAT PEOPLE IN OUR CHURCH - YOU KNOW, WE HAD NOT BEEN TRAINED 24:18 HOW TO DO THIS. BUT IT GOES DEEPER THAN THAT. 24:22 THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH WHO HAVE ACCEPTED CHRIST 24:26 AS THEIR SAVIOR AND THEY HAVE THAT HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE BUT 24:31 THEY HAVEN'T REALLY LET GOD GET IN TO THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM 24:38 AND HEAL THEM AND NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO GET TO THAT AND WE 24:41 HAVEN'T BEEN TRAINED TO, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, MOST PEOPLE 24:44 STILL HAVE THAT GOING ON IN THEIR OWN LIFE. 24:47 >> WE COME TO CHURCH AND PRETEND EVERYTHING IS FINE. 24:50 EVEN IF I WANT TO SHARE I LOOK AROUND AND I SAY, WHO AM I GOING 24:55 TO SHARE WITH? WHO IS GOING TO BE CONFIDENTIAL? 24:57 >> WE NEED SOMEBODY TO TALK TO. AND THAT WILL LISTEN TO US AND 25:02 WON'T TRY TO SHARE ALL THEIR GREAT PEARLS OF WISDOM WITH US. 25:06 JUST GIVE ME AN EAR AND A SHOULDER. 25:08 >> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO 25:11 NEED TO KIND OF SENSITIVITY TRAINING, TELL YOUR STORY. AS 25:18 CHRISTIANS, OFTEN WE ARE KIND OF TAUGHT NOT TO DRAG UP THE PAST 25:24 AND YOU KNOW, GOD HAS HEALED US ALL FROM SO MANY THINGS. 25:30 IF SOMEBODY IS GOING BACK TO THE PAST WE OUGHT TO RECOGNIZE, ALL 25:33 RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT HEALED AND WE NEED TO GET TO THE ROOT OF THIS. 25:37 BUT PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY JUST TO SAY, ALL RIGHT, DON'T TALK 25:40 ABOUT THAT. DO THIS. 25:41 YOU'RE A CHRISTIAN. BE POSITIVE. 25:45 >> SING A SONG. PRAISE THE LORD. 25:47 MAKE A LIST OF YOUR BLESSINGS. >> WELL, I LOST MY FIRST SON 25:51 WHEN HE WAS FOUR YEARS OLD, BACK IN 1985. 25:54 HE HAD BEEN ATTACKED BY A DOG. MY FATHER'S DOG. 25:58 WE WERE AT MY DAD'S HOME. THE DOG HITTEN HIM TWICE IN THE 26:02 HEAD AND RUSHED HIM TO THE HOSPITAL AND HE DIED IN SURGERY 26:10 BECAUSE NO ONE HAD ASKED US IF HE HAD EATEN ANYTHING. 26:13 HE IT CAME UP IN IT HIS LUNGS AND HE DROWNED. 26:20 IT WAS WORST DAY OF MY LIFE. I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT. 26:25 I REMEMBER HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME TO ME AT THE FUNERAL AND CONSOLE 26:29 ME AND SATISFY SAY, THINGS, THE LORD GIVES AND TAKES AWAY. 26:35 YOU GOT TO KEEP PRAISING GOD MY SISTER. 26:37 LOOK AT ALL THE GOOD THINGS AND ALL THESE VERY NICE THINGS BUT 26:43 MEANINGLESS THINGS TO ME AT THE TIME. 26:47 BUT I TOOK ALL OF THAT IN AND I WENT TO MY HOME AND IF YOU HAD 26:52 COME TO MY HOME TWO WEEKS AFTER MY SON DIED YOU WOULD NOT HAVE 26:56 KNOWN I HAD A SON BECAUSE I CLEARED UP HIS ROOM AND GAVE 27:00 AWAY HIS TOYS AND CLOTHES TO MY REGRET BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING OF 27:04 HIS NOW. NOT A LITTLE CAP OR T-SHIRT, 27:07 NOTHING. I JUST CLEARED EVERYTHING OUT. 27:09 AND MY THING WAS TO KEEP THOSE THINGS THERE WAS TO DENY THE 27:14 POWER OF GOD AND TO DENY THE FACT THAT IN THIS TERRIBLE TIME, 27:22 I SHOULD REALLY JUST BE PRAISING GOD. 27:23 SO I NEVER MOURNED FOR MY SON OR GRIEVED. 27:27 JUST ABOUT 11 YEARS LATER IN 1996, I HAD AN EXPERIENCE THAT 27:30 BROUGHT IT ALL BACK. FOR YEARS I STUFFED IT DOWN 27:34 THINKING IT WAS GOING TO BE ALMOST SINFUL 27:37 >> SO THE PAIN WAS STILL THERE. >> OH, THE PAIN WAS STILL THERE. 27:41 >> IT WAS JUST HIDDEN. >> IT WAS HIDDEN. 27:43 AND IF YOU'D ASK ME IF THERE WAS PAIN, I WOULD HAVE SAID NO THERE 27:48 WAS NONE. IN THOSE FEW MONTHS AFTER HE 27:52 DIED I FOUND JESUS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE. 27:55 AND THIS COMES BACK TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 27:58 WE COULD HAVE JESUS IN OUR LIVES BUT IF WE DON'T GIVE HIM ROOM, 28:03 ACCESS, PERMISSION TO DEAL WITH OUR PAIN, THAT PAIN STAYS THERE. 28:07 AND SO, 11 YEARS LATER, WE WERE PASTORING AT A CHURCH AND THIS 28:13 WAS A MOTHER AND SON AND HE WAS ABOUT 10 OR 11 YEARS OF AGE AND 28:16 HE GOT IN A TERRIBLE ACCIDENT FALLING FROM A FERRIS WHEEL, NOT 28:22 THE BIG ONES BUT A SMALL ONE BUT HE FELL TO THE GROUND AND HE GOT 28:28 SCALPED. AND THE WHOLE CHURCH WAS THERE 28:30 PRAYING FOR HIM. MY HUSBAND AND I WERE THERE 28:33 EVERY DAY PRAYING AND WE HAD A VIGIL AND THIS CHILD THEY 28:36 THOUGHT WAS GOING TO DIE LIVED. WELL, SOME MONTHS LATER, IT'S 28:42 COMING TO THE END OF THE YEAR AND WE'RE THERE AT CHURCH AND 28:45 SHE COMES UP TO GIVE HER TESTIMONY. 28:48 TO THANK GOD FOR HER SON'S LIFE AND I'M IN THE FRONT BENCH 28:52 BECAUSE I'M A GOOD PASTOR'S WIFE. 28:57 I SIT IN THE FRONT SO I CAN SMILE AT MY HUSBAND WHILE HE 29:01 PREACHES AND I'M SITTING THERE NICELY FOR HER TESTIMONY. 29:05 AS I'M LISTENING A LITTLE VOICE WHISPERS IN MY EAR, HOW COME GOD 29:12 SAVED THIS WOMAN'S SON WHEN YOU PRAYED FOR HIM BUT WHEN YOU 29:16 PRAYED FOR YOUR OWN SON, GOD LET HIM DIE? 29:20 AND THAT JUST HIT ME LIKE A TON OF BRICKS. 29:27 I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, I THOUGHT, YEAH. 29:31 HOW COME? DOES GOD HAVE FAVORITES? 29:35 AS I SAT THERE AN ANGER BEGAN TO WELL UP INSIDE OF ME THAT JUST 29:39 GOT WORSE AND WORSE. BY THE TIME SERVICE WAS OVER 29:42 INSTEAD OF GOING TO THE FRONT DOOR WITH MY HUSBAND AS I 29:45 USUALLY DO I WENT THROUGH THE SIDE DOOR BECAUSE I WAS TOO 29:51 ANGRY TO TALK TO ANYONE. WE GOT IN THE CAR AND MY HUSBAND 29:54 SAID TO ME, ARE YOU OKAY? I SAID UH-HUH. 29:56 BECAUSE I COULDN'T EVEN TALK. I WAS CHOKED UP TO MY THROAT. 30:01 AND WE DROVE HOME AND I REMEMBER MY KIDS WERE IN THE BACKSEAT 30:06 TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHISPERING WHO HAD UPSET ME. 30:11 FINALLY MY HUSBAND SAID, BE QUIET BEHIND THERE. 30:13 WE GOT HOME AND AS USUAL I WENT INTO THE KITCHEN TO TAKE THE 30:16 FOOD OUT AND HEAT IT UP AND LAY THE TABLE AND I WAS SLAMMING AND 30:23 BANGING EVERYTHING AND HITTING THE CUPBOARD DRAWERS BECAUSE I 30:27 WAS ANGRY. WHEN THE FOOD WAS ON THE TABLE I 30:30 WALK IN THE BEDROOM AND SLAMMED THE DOOR. 30:32 MY HUSBAND CAME IN THE ROOM AND HE KNEW SOMETHING WAS GOING ON. 30:37 HE TOLD THE KIDS TO GO AND EAT AND HE CAME IN THE ROOM AND 30:40 SAID, WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHAT IS GOING ON? 30:42 AND I SAID, OKAY. YOU WANT TO KNOW. 30:45 NOW MY ANGER IS AT HIM BECAUSE AFTER ALL HE'S A SERVANT AT HIM. 30:49 I SAID, OKAY, PASTOR SMALL, YOU TELL ME WHEN WE PRAYED FOR OUR 30:57 SON HE DIED WHEN HE PRAYED FOR THIS WOMAN'S SON HE LIVED. 31:01 HE WAS BLIND SIDED BY MY QUESTION. 31:03 >> 11 YEARS AFTER THE DEATH OF >> EXACTLY. 31:05 HE NEVER THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WITH YOU GOING TO 31:07 COME UP AT THIS TIME. AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO SAY 31:10 SOMETHING, IT WASN'T 11 YEARS THIS. WAS 96. 31:14 IT WAS 98 SO THIS WAS 13 YEARS LATER. 31:21 HE LEFT THE ROOM QUIETLY. AND I STAYED IN THE ROOM. 31:25 I WOKE UP TO DO MY FIRST THING, I PICK UP MY BIBLE FROM MY BED 31:29 AND I OPEN IT UP. A THOUGHT HITS ME AND I THINK TO 31:35 MYSELF, I'VE GROWN UP IN THIS CHURCH, I KNOW THIS BIBLE. 31:40 MY SON IS STILL DEAD. I DON'T WANT IT. 31:42 I CLOSE IT AND I PUT IT BY MY BED AND I REFUSED TO TALK TO GOD 31:47 FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS. NOW I WAS STILL GOING TO CHURCH. 31:49 I WAS STILL THE PASTOR'S WIFE PLAYING THE PIANO AND GREETING 31:55 PEOPLE AND SMILING AND TALKING AND LAUGHING. 31:58 BUT INSIDE I HAD NO RELATIONSHIP TO GOD. 32:01 I WAS ANGRY WITH HIM AND THEN I GOT SICK AND THE DOCTOR SAID SHE 32:05 NEEDS SOME REST. I WAS DIAGNOSED WITH DEPRESSION 32:09 AND DOCTOR SAID SHE NEEDED REST. SO MY HUSBAND SAID I'M SENDING 32:14 YOU TO YOUR SISTER. YOU NEED TO TAKE A COUPLE OF 32:18 MONTHS. MY SISTER IS SINGLE AND WE 32:20 ALWAYS HAVE FUN TOGETHER. BUT SHE'S A PSYCHOLOGIST. 32:25 I WARNED MY HUSBAND I SAID IF YOU ARE MY DAD TELL MY SISTER 32:29 I'M DEPRESSED AND I'VE GONE THROUGH SOMETHING. 32:31 I WILL COME BACK HOME. BECAUSE MY SISTER WOULD NOT BE 32:36 ABLE TO RESTRAIN HERSELF. HE SAID OKAY, WE WON'T SAY 32:42 ANYTHING. SO I GOT THERE. 32:44 FIRST NIGHT I GOT THERE WE HADN'T SEEN EACH OTHER IN 3 OR 4 32:51 YEARS. I HAVE TO TELL YOU BEFORE I 32:53 LEFT, WHEN I WAS PACKING IT WAS MY CUSTOM WHEN I WOULD PACK TO 32:56 GO ON A TRIP TO PUT MY BIBLE INSIDE THE SUITCASE, LAST THING 33:00 I WOULD PACK. SO I PICKED IT UP AUTOMATICALLY 33:02 TO PUT IT IN MY SUITCASE AND THEN I THOUGHT, I DON'T NEED 33:05 THIS. I PUT IT BACK BY THE BED AND 33:08 CLOSED THE SUITCASE. SO THAT NIGHT AFTER WE HAD EATEN 33:11 AND SHE GAVE ME THIS GIFT BAG I WENT INTO THE ROOM AND CLOSED 33:14 THE T DOOR AND SAT ON THE BED. I PULL THREE BOOKS OF THE BAG. 33:22 THE FIRST BOOK WAS CALLED "LORD HEAL MY HURT" AND I STILL HAVE 33:26 THAT BOOK. THE SECOND ONE WAS 33:28 "DISAPPOINTMENT WITH GOD" BY PHILLIP YANCY AND THEN THE THIRD 33:33 BOOK WAS A BIBLE. >> ALL THREE OF THEM EXACTLY 33:36 WHAT YOU NEED. >> JUST EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED. 33:38 AND I LOOKED AT THE BIBLE AND I SAID OUT LOUD TO MYSELF, I SAID, 33:43 OKAY, LORD, I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU BUT YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT TO 33:47 TALK TO ME SO LET'S TALK. AND THE NEXT MORNING WHEN MY 33:50 SISTER LEFT FOR WORK FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS EVERY MORNING WHEN SHE 33:53 LEFT, I'D GO BACK INTO MY ROOM AND PUT THE BIBLE ON THE BED AND 33:58 I SCREAM AT GOD. I SHOUT AT HIM. 34:01 I WOULD TELL HIM HE WAS UNFAIR AND DIDN'T LOVE ME AND I TELL 34:06 HIM HIS BIBLE WAS LIES, EVERYTHING NEGATIVE THING INSIDE 34:10 THAT I HAD BEEN THINKING BUT NOT SAYING, JUST CAME TUMBLING OUT. 34:14 WHEN I FINISHED I WOULD GET UP AND I WOULD LEAVE THE ROOM AND I 34:17 WOULD TURN THE TV ON AND TRY TO DISTRACT MYSELF. 34:20 AFTER ABOUT TWO WEEKS OF DOING THAT I GOT INTO THE ROOM ONE 34:23 MORNING AND I WAS READY AND I THOUGHT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING 34:27 TO SAY. AND THEN I LOOKED AT THE BIBLE 34:31 AND I SAID, OKAY, LORD, I'M FINISHED. 34:33 WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY FOR YOURSELF? 34:36 AND I PICKED UP THE BIBLE. HE SPOKE THROUGH HIS WORD. 34:39 I BEGAN TO READ AND AS I BEGAN TO READ, GOD'S WORD BEGAN TO 34:44 HEAL ME. >> PRAISE THE LORD. 34:48 I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF BACK IN 1985 WHEN MY 34:54 SON DIED SOMEBODY HAD SAID TO ME, LET IT OUT, SWEETHEART. 34:59 SCREAM, SHOUT. GRIEVE, BE UPSET. 35:02 BE ANGRY. GO THROUGH THE PHRASES THAT YOU 35:04 NEED TO GO THROUGH TO GRIEVE THIS SITUATION. 35:08 I SOMETIMES WONDER HOW LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT. 35:10 >> SOMEBODY HAD REACHED OUT AND SAID, I'M HERE FOR YOU. 35:13 SCREAM AT ME. TELL ME ALL YOUR PAINS AND HURT. 35:18 >> WHEN YOU DON'T GET THAT AND YOU STUFF THAT DOWN, YOU CAN 35:21 STILL BE IN CHURCH, BUT I TELL PEOPLE IT'S LIKE A PIPELINE. 35:27 YOU KNOW, JUST IMAGINE THERE'S A PIPELINE FROM YOUR HEART TO GOD. 35:32 AND THE MORE NEGATIVE THINGS YOU KEEP INSIDE ABOUT GOD OR ABOUT 35:37 WHAT'S HAPPENING, IT CLOGGED THE PIPELINE. 35:39 GOD'S LOVE AND HIS COMFORT CAN'T GET TO ME. 35:42 WHEN I GET THAT STUFF OUT, THE PIPELINE'S CLEAR AND ALL OF A 35:47 SUDDEN THE LOVE OF GOD WAS FLOWING TO MY HEART. 35:50 JUST MADE SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE. 35:52 >> I HOPE THAT THOSE OF YOU LISTENING REMEMBER THIS WHEN 35:57 SOMEONE IS GRIEVING - MY AUNT CALLED LAST NIGHT. 36:03 SHE'S 93 YEARS OLD AND HER SON, MY COUSIN, DIED UNEXPECTEDLY. 36:09 JUST WENT TO SLEEP. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH MY 36:13 SISTER. WENT TO BED FOR A NAP AND NEVER 36:15 WOKE UP. AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST 36:19 STUNNED TO HEAR THIS BECAUSE HE WAS ONLY 59 YEARS OLD. 36:21 BUT THE THING THAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IS, WE DON'T HAVE TO 36:26 HAVE THE ANSWERS. PEOPLE WANT TO BE LISTENED TO. 36:29 SOMETIMES THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO TO CONSOLE SOMEONE IN GRIEF 36:35 IS NOT TO SAY ANYTHING, JUST TO HUG AND LISTEN TO THEM. 36:41 CERTAINLY DON'T TRY TO DENY THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO GRIEVE. 36:46 SO, WHAT WE SEE - AND I KNOW THAT OUR CHURCH IS SO GOOD AT 36:51 DOING HEALTH SEMINARS AND VARIOUS THINGS, AND THERE ARE SO 36:56 MANY WONDERFUL PROGRAMS, BUT WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS, WE 37:00 JUST NEED TO HAVE A PARADIGM SHIFT ON WHAT WE CONSIDER 37:08 EVANGELISM AND ESPECIALLY THE RAMPING UP TO THE SHARING OF THE 37:12 WORD. >> THAT'S RIGHT. 37:15 I THINK THIS TERM, WHICH WE USE FRIENDSHIP EVANGELISM, EVERYBODY 37:20 KNOWS ABOUT IT. BUT THAT'S IT. 37:23 THAT REALLY IS IT. I MEAN, I THINK ABOUT ZACK IN 37:31 THE TREE. THIS POOR LITTLE MAN WAS ASHAMED 37:35 OF THE LIFE HE WAS LIVING. HE WANTED TO SEE JESUS. 37:39 JUST A GLIMPSE IS ALL HE WANTED OF THIS MAN WHO WAS SAYING ALL 37:44 THESE WONDERFUL THINGS. JESUS COULD HAVE SAID, I LOVE 37:48 YOU, AND I FORGIVE YOU. HE COULD HAVE SAID A NUMBER OF 37:51 THING. JESUS SAID, COME DOWN I'M CGOING 37:57 TO YOUR HOUSE. JESUS CAME TO HIS HOUSE AND I 38:00 KNOW HE DIDN'T GO TO HIS HOUSE AND GIVE HIM A SERMON. 38:02 HE LISTENED TO HIM AND TALKED WITH HIM AND MINISTERED TO HIS 38:06 NEEDS. AND I THINK TOO MANY TIMES IN 38:09 EVANGELISM WE BYPASS THAT AND SEE PEOPLE WITH A LITTLE NUMBER 38:15 SIGN ON THEM. HOW MANY STARS AM I GOING TO 38:18 HAVE IN MY CROWN. YOU'RE ONE. 38:19 YOU'RE ONE. YOU'RE ONE. 38:21 AND WE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE SEEN HAPPEN IS, WHEN WE TRY 38:25 TO REACH OUT TO SOMEONE WITH THE WORD OF GOD, I'M GIVING YOU A 38:31 SERIES OF BIBLE LESSONS THERE COMES A POINT WHERE WE SAY THIS 38:35 PERSON ISN'T GOING TO GIVE THEIR HEART TO THE LORD, MOVE ON. 38:39 THERE ARE A PEOPLE WHO LEAVE THAT PERSON AND MOVE ON TO 38:42 SOMEONE ELSE AND I SAY, NO. KEEP THE FRIENDSHIP GOING. 38:47 KEEP THE PASSAGE WAY OPEN. BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE - SOME 38:53 PEOPLE JUST TAKE A LITTLE LONGER THAN OTHERS, YOU KNOW? 38:56 AND I MAY NOT BE THE ONE WHO BRINGS THEM TO THE POINT OF THEM 39:01 ACCEPTING JESUS. I MAY BE JUST BE SOMEONE WHO 39:09 NURTURED THAT PLANT AND GOD BRINGS SOMEONE ELSE BUT I NEED 39:12 TO DO MY PART. THAT'S WHY I SAY IT BEGINS WITH 39:14 THE CHURCH. AS A CHURCH, WE NEED TO BE AWARE 39:17 OF THE NEEDS OF THE MEMBERS IN THE CHURCH. 39:19 YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THE CHURCH NEEDS TO BE A SAFE PLACE. 39:23 BUT HOW MANY OF US GO TO CHURCH AND REALLY FEEL THAT WE CAN BE 39:27 OURSELVES? THINK ABOUT IT, SHELLEY. 39:29 AND I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THE THREE OF US. 39:32 YOU'RE BOTH ON TV A LOT. I WORK FOR THE CHURCH. 39:34 I TRAVEL A LOT. YOU GO TO CHURCH AND YOU ARE 39:37 TROUBLED ABOUT SOMETHING YOU AND LOOK AROUND YOU AND THINK, THERE 39:40 IS NO ONE HERE I CAN SHARE THIS WITH. 39:43 THEY THINK I'M THIS STRONG SPIRITUAL PERSON. 39:46 I CAN'T DISSOLUTION THEM OF THAT AND FOR THEM TO THINK THAT I MAY 39:50 BE IN A BAD PLACE, HOW COULD YOU BE? 39:52 YOU'RE A WOMAN OF GOD. AND SO, YOU KEEP THAT STUFF 39:57 INSIDE. I WANT TO SAY I COULD SHARE IT 39:59 WITH MY HUSBAND. WE'VE BEEN MARRIED 37 YEARS THIS 40:03 YEAR BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS BECAUSE POOR FELLA - 40:07 >> HE'S GOING TO WANT TO SOLVE IT. 40:09 AND I JUST AWANT HIM TO LISTEN TO IT AND LET ME CRY AND GO 40:15 THROUGH MY WHATEVER. I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT EVEN 40:18 WITHIN OUR CHURCH ENVIRONMENT, WE CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE WHERE 40:22 PEOPLE FEEL - MEMBERS FEEL I CAN SHARE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH 40:26 ME, I CAN LET MY HAIR DOWN. I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO BEHAVE 40:30 AND LOOK A CERTAIN WAY. >> I THINK ANY TIME SOMEONE 40:34 COMES TO US AND SHARES A PROBLEM, WE ALWAYS WANT TO FIX 40:38 IT. WE ALWAYS THINK WE'VE GOT TO 40:40 HAVE THE ANSWER. WE CAN GIVE YOU THREE POINTS AND 40:44 A POEM, A FORMULA TO WORK AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE JUST FINE. 40:50 >> THAT RIGHT SCRIPTURE. >> RIGHT. 40:51 AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY NEED. THEY JUST NEED A SOFT SHOULDER 40:56 AND A LISTENING EAR. >> I REMEMBER YEARS AGO THIS HAS 41:01 TO BE 2002 I WAS TRAVELING TO SOUTH AFRICA AND I WENT TO 41:04 ATTEND A WOMEN'S - WE HAD A WOMEN'S WEEKEND, AND AT THE END 41:08 OF THE WEEKEND IT WAS A SUNDAY I HAD DONE MY LAST PRESENTATION 41:12 AND AS I WAS LEAVING OUT THE BACK TO GO TO THE PLACE I WAS 41:16 STAYING A LADY STOPPED ME. THEY HAD THIS CUTE LITTLE BABY 41:19 AND I LOVE BABIES. I'M ALWAYS HOLDING THEM. 41:22 I TAKE PICTURE WITH BABIES AND LITTLE CHILDREN. 41:24 I HELD THE BABY. THIS BABY MUST HAVE BEEN ABOUT 6 41:28 OR 7 MONTHS OLD AND SHE BEGAN TO TELL ME HER STORY. SHE SAID, YOU 41:32 KNOW, SISTER, MY HUSBAND DIED FROM H.I.V. AND I HAVE H.I.V. 41:39 AND I COULD DIE ANY TIME. SHE SAID, BUT YOU KNOW, MY 41:43 CONCERN IS FOR MY BABY. WILL YOU TAKE MY BABY? 41:47 >> OH. >> YOU KNOW? 41:49 SHE DIDN'T SAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M SAVED. 41:54 CAN YOU HELP ME. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M 41:58 GOING TO WAKE IN THE - THAT WASN'T HER THOUGHT. 42:01 HER THOUGHT WAS, THE NEED SHE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT HER BABY 42:06 HAD A SAFE HOME. AND WE DID THAT. 42:09 I REMEMBER, I CALLED FOR THE DIRECTOR WHO DID THIS TICK - I 42:14 SAID DO WE HAVE ANY WOMEN HERE WHO ARE NURSES OR SOCIAL WORKERS 42:17 OR SOMEBODY. SHE GOT A SOCIAL WORKER WHO CAME 42:20 AND WE SAT WITH THE LADY AND THEY TALKED AND THEY WORKED IT 42:23 OUT. MONTHS LATER I FOUND OUT THAT 42:27 THE WOMAN HAD DIED BUT THE BABY HAD ALREADY FOUND A HOME AND MET 42:33 THE PARENTS - THE PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO BE PARENTS. 42:37 AND I THINK OH MY GOODNESS, THAT WAS HER NEED, YOU KNOW. 42:45 AND WE MEET PEOPLE WHO HAVE A NEED AND WE GO STRAIGHT TO THE 42:48 HOLY SCRIPTURES AND I THINK THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. 42:52 THAT'S NOT WHAT JESUS DID. YES, THAT SALVATION IS SO 42:57 IMPORTANT, BUT TELL ME HOW WELL CAN YOU LISTEN TO THE WORD OF 43:00 GOD WHEN YOU'RE IN PAIN, WHEN YOUR STOMACH IS EMPTY OR A 43:07 RAGING FEVER OR WHEN YOU KNOW YOU MIGHT DIE OF CANCER OR YOUR 43:12 HUSBAND DOESN'T HAVE A JOB AND YOU HAVE NO WAY TO PAY THE 43:16 BILLS. HOW DO YOU TAKE ALL OF THAT IN 43:17 WHEN THE PRESSING CONCERN IS THIS? 43:22 >> YOU CAN'T CONCENTRATE ON 28 FUNDAMENTAL DOCTORATES WHEN 43:27 YOU'RE STARVING TO DEATH. >> AND HARD TO BELIEVE THERE IS 43:30 A LOVING GOD WHEN I'M SUFFERING. >> SURE, SURE EXCELLENT POINT. 43:34 >> WHAT IS IT THAT WE AS CHILDREN OF GOD NEED TO DO? 43:36 AND THIS IS WHERE I TALK ABOUT THE PARADIGM SHIFT, THAT IT'S 43:41 NOT JUST GOING WITH THE LESSONS AND NOT JUST HAVING THE SMALL 43:44 GROUP BIBLE STUDY BUT GETTING TO KNOW THE PEOPLE, PEOPLE IN MY 43:51 NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU KNOW, WE THINK TIME IS SHORT 43:54 AND JESUS US COMING. I CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE A SOCIAL 43:58 EVENT. I NEED A BIBLE STUDY TOO. 44:01 NO, NOT NECESSARILY. GET TO KNOW PEOPLE. 44:03 LET THEM SEE YOU AS YOU ARE AS A PERSON. 44:09 AND YOU CARE ABOUT THEM. PEOPLE KNEW THAT JESUS CARED 44:14 ABOUT THEM. >> THAT'S GOOD. 44:19 LET'S TALK ABOUT - IN YOUR MINISTRY, YOU'RE TRAVELING 44:23 AROUND THE WORLD, YOU'RE MINISTERING AND EVEN THOUGH WE 44:26 ARE GOING TO SPECIFICALLY SPEAK TO SOME PAIN AND THINGS - 44:31 DIFFICULT THINGS THAT WOMEN ARE DEALING WITH, MEN DON'T TUNE 44:34 OUT, BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HEAR. IT'S THE SAME THING, REALLY. 44:37 MEN ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME TYPES OF THINGS AND WE NEED TO 44:41 LEARN HOW TO MINISTER TO PEOPLE LIKE THAT. 44:45 FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAD THE PROGRAM "END IT NOW" IT BEGAN WITH WOMEN 44:55 MINISTRIES AND - >> AND NOW IT'S EVERY 44:59 DEPARTMENT. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ABUSE IT 45:02 TALKS ABOUT EVERYBODY. 1-3 WOMEN EXPERIENCE IT GLOBALLY 45:07 BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT MEN AREN'T ABUSED OR BOYS AREN'T 45:12 ABUSED OR AREN'T OTHER ABUSIVE ISSUES. 45:14 IN OUR DEPARTMENT WE FOCUS ON THESE SIX AREAS. 45:16 IF AND I COULD JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY. 45:19 THE FIRST ONE IS ABUSE. AND WE LOOK HOW CAN WE HELP 45:24 PEOPLE WHO ARE DEALING WITH THIS. 45:26 THE SECOND ONE IS HEALTH THREATS. 45:29 WOMEN EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT THREATS TO THEIR HEALTH AND I 45:32 DON'T KNOW OF A WOMAN TODAY WHO SAYS I DON'T HAVE ANY HEALTH 45:40 PROBLEMS. AND THE THIRD ONE IS ILLITERACY. 45:43 BUT ANOTHER ILL - ILIT TRASY. THE FOURTH ONE IS LACK OF 46:01 TRAINING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS, 46:05 WOMEN ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PILE WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION. 46:08 FIFTH ONE IS POVERTY. OH MY GOODNESS, THAT IS A GLOBAL 46:11 PROBLEM. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE USED TO 46:13 THINK THIS IS A DEVELOPING WORLD PROBLEM, IT'S A GLOBAL PROBLEM. 46:17 IT'S EVERYWHERE AND FINALLY WOMEN'S WORK LOAD. 46:21 THE STATISTICS SAY WOMEN DO 90% OF THE WORLD'S WORK. 46:26 EARN 10% OF THE WORLD'S PAY. >> THAT'S AN AMAZING STATISTIC 46:34 TO US. >> THEY WORK IN THE HOUSE AND IN 46:36 THE COMMUNITY AND IN THE CHURCH. THEY HAVE A JOB AND YET NOBODY 46:45 CONSIDERS THAT THEY NEED MORE THAN JUST WELL DONE. 46:48 THAT THEY NEED TO STOP, TO REST. IF YOU LOOK AT HOW A CHURCH IS, 46:54 FOR EXAMPLE, LOOK HOW MANY TIMES IT'S THE WOMEN GET INVOLVED TO 46:57 GET THINGS DONE. LET'S CLEAN THE CHURCH, LET'S DO 47:00 THIS AND THAT AND THE WOMEN ARE THERE. 47:02 WE WANT TO LOOK AT THE STRUGGLES THAT WOMEN HAVE ON A GLOBAL 47:09 BASIS THAT CAN BE FOUND ANYWHERE YOU GO. 47:12 THESE ARE STRUGGLES THAT WE DEAL WITH BUT THAT WOMEN IN THE 47:21 COMMUNITY DEAL WITH. WHY SHOULD WE FEEL THAT LIFE 47:23 SHOULD BE EASY FOR US? GOD GIVES US A TOUCH POINT. 47:30 BUT OUT OF MY EXPERIENCE WITH GRIEVING FOR OUR A CHILD WHO 47:34 DIED, I HAVE A TOUCH POINT. TO REACH OTHER WOMEN AND THE 47:40 INTERESTING THING IS IT'S GIVING ME A TOUCH POINT TO REACH PEOPLE 47:43 WHO ARE GRIEVING. YOU GO THROUGH THAT. 47:49 WHEN I TALKED TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT MULTIPLE KNEE SURGERIES 47:52 THAT I HAVE HAD AND THE PAIN THAT I HAVE HAD, I MEET SO MANY 47:57 PEOPLE WHO STRUGGLE WITH PAIN DAILY SO IT GIVES ME A TOUCH 48:02 POINT. SO I CAN'T SIT BACK AND THINK, 48:05 WELL GOD MUST KEEP THAT EDGE COMPLETE I AROUND ME AND MAKE IT 48:09 A TEN FOOT CONCRETE WALL SO I CAN BE PERFECTLY FINE AND THEN I 48:14 COULD REACH AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. 48:16 NO, THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. I'VE GOT TO BE REAL AND HAVE 48:25 COMPASSION. AND I LOVE THAT FROM SECOND 48:31 CORINTHIANS ONE. GOD WILL COMFORT US IN ALL OUR 48:35 SORROWS SO WE CAN COMFORT SOMEONE ELSE. 48:37 WHICH MEANS NOT ONLY DOES HE GIVE ME WHAT I NEED, BUT HE 48:41 GIVES ME OVERFLOWING AND MORE THAN I NEED. 48:47 EVEN IN MY PAIN IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE PAUL DOESN'T SAY AFTER 48:50 HE'S COMFORTED YOU AND EVERYTHING'S OVER AND YOU'RE 48:53 FEELING FINE, GOD'S GOING TO - HE SAYS HE COMFORTS ME IN ALL MY 48:58 SORROWS SO THAT I CAN COMFORT SOMEONE ELSE. 49:05 SO EVEN I RECEIVE COMFORT GOD BRINGS PEOPLE IN MY LIFE THAT 49:08 ALSO NEED COMFORT AND THAT HELPS ME WITH MY PAIN AND MY SITUATION 49:11 BECAUSE I'M HELPING SOMEONE ELSE. 49:18 AS HIS LOVE THROWS THROUGH ME IT'S WORKING IN ME. 49:24 AND IT'S HEALING. >> YOU'VE BEEN VERY BRAVE - I 49:28 SAID THAT THE FIRST TIME WHEN I INTERVIEWED YOU WHEN YOU TALKED 49:31 ABOUT YOUR DEPRESSION, BECAUSE THERE IS STILL A STIGMA WHEN 49:39 SOMEONE MENTIONS ANY KIND OF DEPRESSION OR MENTAL ILLNESS 49:45 THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, LET'S KEEP THIS QUIET. 49:50 AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT DEPRESSION AND FACT THAT YOU'RE 49:56 TAKING AN ANTI-DEPRESSANT WHICH SOMETIMES PEOPLE - JUST AMAZES 50:00 ME. IT AMAZES ME THAT IF SOMEONE IS 50:07 A DIABETIC, THEIR DIABETES CANNOT BE CONTROLLED BECAUSE 50:10 THEY HAVE A CHEMICAL IMBALANCE AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE INSULIN, 50:15 WE'LL ACCEPT THAT. IF SOMEONE, HOWEVER, AND YOU 50:22 FIND OUT THEY'RE CLINICALLY DEPRESSED AND YOU'RE TALKING 50:30 ABOUT TAKING SOME KIND OF PRESCRIPTION DRUG AND 50:32 ANTI-DEPRESSANT IT'S LIKE, YOU'RE NOT BEING A GOOD 50:44 CHRISTIAN IT'S AMAZING TO ME FEWS WHEN WE ADDRESSED THIS 50:49 TOPIC PEOPLE FELT HOPE. SOME PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH EVEN 50:53 ACTUALLY FELT HOPE FOR THE FIRST TIME LIKE IT'S OKAY IF I DO 50:56 SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. AND I KNOW YOU KNOW DR. NEIL 51:07 MAIDLY. YOU NEED THE SUNSHINE AND YOU 51:10 NEED TO EAT WELL BUT IF YOUR BRAIN ISN'T MAKING THE SEROTONIN 51:19 PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT YOU AND - SO HE OFTEN FINDS IT NECESSARY 51:24 TO USE AN ANTI-DESPRESENT AND GET PEOPLE IT TO A CERTAIN PLACE 51:29 WHERE THEY CAN RESPOND TO OTHER TREATMENTS. 51:31 >> THAT'S THE WHOLE THING AND PEOPLE DON'TND THAT. 51:33 WHEN YOU'RE DEPRESSED YOU'RE IN A VERY DARK PLACE. 51:37 AND YOU KNOW WHO DO YOU TELL? LAST NIGHT I WANTED TO TELL 51:40 MYSELF, WHO DO YOU SAY THAT TO? >> I WORKED WITH LADY AND SHE 51:47 SUFFERED DEPRESSION AND I CAN PRAISE GOD AND THANK HIM THAT I 51:51 NEVER SUFFERED DEPRESSION AND IF YOU NEVER SUFFERED IT YOU DON'T 51:54 UNDERSTAND IT YOU AND HAVE THE ATTITUDE, SUCK IT UP. 51:57 GET OVER IT. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU BECAUSE 52:02 YOU NEVER SUFFERED IT. I MET THIS WOMAN AND SHE WAS A 52:05 GODLY WOMAN AND THERE WOULD BE TIMES SHE WOULD HAVE THE BLANK 52:07 LOOK IN HER EYES AND SHE DIDN'T WANT TO FIX HER HAIR AND GET 52:13 HERSELF - SHE JUST WAS - SHE HAD LOST HER COPING ABILITY. 52:18 I TOLD THE LORD BECAUSE I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, LORD, HELP ME TO 52:23 UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S GOING THROUGH. 52:25 AND NOT FOR LONG, I'M GOING TO SAY FOR A MINUTE OR TWO, THE 52:29 LORD TOOK ME TO HER PLACE TO WHERE SHE WAS AND THAT WITH YOU 52:34 A TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE FOR ME. IT WAS LIKE I WAS ENVELOPED IN 52:40 DARKNESS AND I COULDN'T CLAW MY WAY OUT OF IT. 52:44 WELL THEN, I UNDERSTOOD AND SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO HAVE - 52:49 YOU NEED TO EXPERIENCE WHAT SOMEBODY'S GOING THROUGH BEFORE 52:54 YOU CAN REACH OUT AND TOUCH THEM AND HELP THEM. 52:56 I KNOW SOMEONE WHO SUFFERS DEPRESSION EXPRESSED IT TO ME. 53:01 THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE GROSS, BUT HE SAID, YOU'RE IN 53:05 DEPRESSION AND SOMEBODY THINKS YOU SHOULD JUST COME ON, GET 53:09 WITH THE PROGRAM. IT'S LIKE HAVING DIARRHEA, A BAD 53:12 CASE OF IT. AND SOMEBODY SAYING, YOU STOP 53:16 THAT. QUICK THAT RIGHT NOW. 53:18 LIKE YOU COULD DO THAT. OF COURSE YOU CAN'T. 53:20 THE SAME IS TRUE. BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPERIENCE 53:28 AND HAVE COMPASSION AND THANK GOD WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN TOUCH 53:32 US. >> AND IT IS A BLESSING BECAUSE 53:34 WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH IT LIKE I SAID, IT'S ONLY WHEN YOU 53:38 GET TO THE DOCTOR AND THEY DIAGNOSIS YOU AND THEN THEY PUT 53:42 YOU ON THAT MEDICATION, YOU SUDDENLY SEE THE LIGHT AT THE 53:45 END OF THE TUNNEL. ALL THE TIME YOU'RE WALKING 53:47 THROUGH THIS TUNNEL YOU AND KEEP SAYING, THIS IS GOING TO END. 53:50 THIS IS GOING TO END AND IT DOESN'T END. 53:52 IT DOESN'T END. AND YOU JUST KEEP ON GOING AND 53:58 THEN THE MEDICATION COMES IN. THINGS BEGIN TO CHANGE. 54:02 YOUR OUTLOOK ON LIFE CHANGES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU DON'T WANT 54:05 TO BE BY YOURSELF ALL THE TIME IN THE BED COVERED UP AWAY FROM 54:08 THE WORLD. YOU WANT TO START RELATING TO 54:12 PEOPLE AND TALKING TO PEOPLE AND LIVING LIFE AGAIN. 54:17 YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE CHANGES. AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS 54:20 WHY I GUESS BECAUSE I'M SO PASSIONATE ON THIS TOPIC OF 54:24 DEPRESSION, THAT WE CREATED AT OUR OFFICE A SERIES OF SEMINARS 54:31 CALLED "THINKING WELL LIVING W 54:37 WELL" BECAUSE IF SOMETHING HAPPENS HERE IT CAUSES PHYSICAL 54:41 PROBLEMS. IF THOSE SERIES OF TEN SEMINARS 54:44 WE DEAL WITH ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION AND ANGER AND 54:47 UNFORGIVENESS. >> ARE THESE AVAILABLE TO THE 54:49 PUBLIC? >> THEY ARE AVAILABLE TO THE 54:51 PUBLIC FROM OUR WEBSITE OR THEY COULD E-MAIL US AND WE'LL GET IT 54:56 TO THEM. THEY COULD GET IT ON CD OR GET 55:01 THE PRINTED VERSION. >> WHY DON'T GO AHEAD AND GIVE 55:04 THE WEBSITE. >> THE WEBSITE IS 55:20 WWW.ADVENTISTOH WOMENS MINISTRY.ORG 55:28 ADVENTISTWOMENS MINISTRY.ORG. >> WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE 55:31 BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR BEING SO 55:36 AUTHENTIC. YOU'RE VERY GENUINE. 55:38 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT IT HELPS WHEN THE LORD 55:42 CALLED ME TO FULL-TIME MINISTRY, ONE THING HE IMPRESSED UPON ME 55:47 BY THE POWER OF HIS SPIRIT WAS THAT I COULDN'T - I HAD TO 55:54 MINISTER FROM THE REAL PLACE TO TALK ABOUT MY PROBLEMS. 55:57 YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. 55:59 WHEN YOU GO OUT AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR OWN PROBLEMS, 56:05 PEOPLE WILL BE ENCOURAGED. WE ARE GOING TO JUST REALLY DIG 56:13 IN AND FIND OUT SOME MORE THINGS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS. 56:17 I HAD A THOUGHT. WE'RE GETTING READY TO GO TO OUR 56:21 BREAK. THIS IS A LIVE PROGRAM. 56:23 THAT'S THE THOUGHT. [LAUGHTER] 56:25 >> MY BRAIN WENT IN NEUTRAL FOR A MINUTE. 56:29 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK, HEATHER-DAWN 56:33 SMALL OR MOLLIE OR ME CALL US 618-627-4651 OR YOU CAN E-MAIL 56:43 THOSE QUESTIONS TO LIVE @ 3ABN.TV&A FREE OFFER. 56:48 KEEP AT YOUR WORK AND SOMETHING THAT HMS RICHARDS HAD ON HIS 56:53 OFFICE WALL AND SOMETHING I'M SURE HE LOOKED AT QUITE OFTEN. 56:57 IT ENCOURAGES YOU TO STAY ABOUT WHAT GOD HAS CALLED YOU TO DO 57:01 AND DON'T LET THE ENEMY SIDE TRACK YOU WITH HIS TACTICS AND 57:08 HIS WAY OF DOING THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE YOU STOP DOING THINGS 57:13 WHAT THEY CAUSED YOU TO DO. IT'S FRAMEABLE AND BEAUTIFUL AND 57:17 ENCOURAGE YOU. >> YES, IT IS. 57:19 HOW DO THEY GET THAT, MOLLIE? >> THEY GET IT FREE OFFER @ 57:29 3ABN. OR CALL 618-627-4651. 57:34 >> WE'LL TAKE A TWO MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL BE BACK WITH YOU IN 57:36 JUST A FEW SECONDS. SO PLEASE STAY TUNED. 57:39 AND GET YOUR QUESTIONS IN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. |
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