Participants: Danny Shelton (Host), Yvonne Lewis (Host), Brian & Dianne Hamilton, Bruce & Tammy Chance, C.A. & Irma Murray, Greg & Jill Morikone, Hal & Mollie Steenson, Jason Bradley, John & Angie Lomacang, Kenny & Chris Shelton, Roy & Earlenne Hunt
Series Code: TL
Program Code: TL015537A
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00:01 I want to spend my life
00:07 Mending broken people 00:12 I want to spend my life 00:18 Removing pain 00:23 Lord, let my words 00:29 Heal a heart that hurts 00:34 I want to spend my life 00:40 Mending broken people 00:45 I want to spend my life 00:51 Mending broken people 01:07 Hello and Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you for joining us today. 01:11 We have a great program in store today 01:13 because we have brought a lot of family members here. 01:17 And we thank you for allowing us 01:19 to come into your home. 01:20 And we want to be an extension of your living room today 01:23 or you can be an extension of ours, 01:25 however you want to do it, we are here together. 01:27 We're gonna-- this is a holiday, Yvonne, 01:29 that we love. 01:31 Absolutely. It's a Thanksgiving, right. 01:32 I know. 01:34 You got the Halloween and all these things 01:35 and that we just, you know, as Christians 01:38 we're not for them. 01:39 We don't condone them. 01:40 But Thanksgiving, that's a great holiday. 01:42 We could have that everyday. It's one of my favorite times. 01:46 Absolutely. Family food, oh my goodness. 01:50 We should probably get, 01:51 you get some shout at this spread here, 01:54 what has happened here. 01:55 But we want to introduce everybody 01:56 that we have here. 01:58 So we're gonna start over here. This is of course Yvonne Lewis. 02:00 I am Danny Shelton. 02:02 And starting over here, next to her, you guys, 02:04 why don't you introduce yourself together? 02:06 And, I am Chris Shelton. 02:09 This is my husband, Pastor Kenny Shelton. 02:11 Thank you, Honey. All right. 02:14 Tammy Chance and this is my husband Bruce. 02:16 All right. 02:17 And I am Mollie Steenson and this is my husband Hal. 02:20 Okay. 02:22 I am Dianne Hamilton and this is my husband Brian. 02:26 We are Greg and Jill. All right. 02:30 And we are Roy and Earlenne Hunt. 02:34 And we are John and Angela Lomacang. 02:37 And I am Irma Murray and my husband C.A. Murray. 02:41 Okay. So that's the group now. 02:43 We have quite a few folk that are traveling. 02:45 I know like the Primose. 02:47 I think he is in China or somewhere right now. 02:49 We have several others that couldn't be here. 02:51 So we said, well, the folks that we got here, 02:52 let's spend this time with you. 02:54 So we're gonna be here for a couple of hours. 02:57 We actually have some food. 02:58 We hope that you do at home 'cause if you don't, 03:02 we can't give that to you right now. 03:04 But we can pray the Lord to bless you, right. 03:06 No, no, I'm just kidding you 03:08 because I know that God has blessed you 03:09 and if you are watching this television, 03:11 you're been home and you have food 03:13 to eat too. 03:15 God is faithful. 03:16 He will provide every need but it is great to be 03:19 with family, be with friends. 03:20 So we wanted to share this time with you. 03:23 And we want to talk about things 03:25 that we are thankful for. 03:26 And the reason we are doing it, 03:28 it's because we want you to really contemplate 03:31 the goodness of God in your own life. 03:33 It's one thing to hear somebody else's story 03:36 but we all have a story. 03:37 That's right. 03:38 And that story is the most important asset 03:40 that we have. 03:42 If you want to be a witness to those around you, 03:44 you got to have a story to tell. 03:45 And how do you get that story to tell? 03:47 Submit and commit your lives to Jesus, 03:49 recognizing, we're all sinners, right, 03:51 saved by grace. 03:53 Jesus says, "If we confess our sins, 03:55 He is faithful and just," to do what? 03:56 Forgive us. 03:58 "Forgive us from our sins and He cleanses us 03:59 from some of the unrighteousness." 04:00 All of the unrighteousness. All of the unrighteousness. 04:03 So that's the God that we serve. 04:04 Isn't that wonderful? 04:06 So when we are able to say, look what God has done for us. 04:10 I meet people every day 04:11 and I'm sure all of you here do. 04:12 And at home, you meet people every day. 04:15 "Well, the Lord's not." Where is God when I need him?" 04:17 "I just feel like everybody is against me." 04:19 I just-- as we always say that, woe is me, 04:21 there's an old country song says, 04:23 "If I didn't have any bad luck, I'd have no luck at all." 04:26 You know, and whoever wrote that, 04:28 I don't agree with you. 04:29 But I don't believe in luck 04:30 but believe in divine providence. 04:33 And so I want you to know that your own personal testimony. 04:36 So today, while we're giving Thanksgiving, 04:39 we're giving to God. 04:40 Of course, we are happy for this country 04:42 that we live in here, 04:43 particularly United States of America. 04:44 And it's an American traditional holiday. 04:48 We won't go into all that. 04:50 But you know, the pilgrims and all those things, 04:51 you've heard about it, right. 04:53 But we are here today saying we're thankful 04:55 to our Heavenly Father that He cared enough for us, 04:58 instead of destroying everybody 05:00 that He made a plan of salvation, 05:02 which included a tremendous sacrifice 05:04 that He didn't have to do. 05:05 So praise the Lord for that. 05:07 What we're gonna start off, 05:08 we actually gonna have a blessing. 05:10 We're gonna kind of, I'm always been told, 05:12 you're not supposed to eat and talk 05:13 but I guess we're gonna 05:14 kind of do that today, Yvonne, is that okay? 05:16 And you know, what I want to say, Danny, 05:18 everybody has something that they can be thankful for. 05:21 And I think this is the time to-- not only do it now, 05:25 but extend it into the rest of the year. 05:28 What are we thankful for and show gratitude to the Lord 05:31 for all that He does for us. 05:33 Absolutely. So why don't we start out. 05:36 We'll just join hands together. 05:37 Those of you at home, if you are by yourself, 05:38 reach out symbolically. 05:40 We'll join hands with you today also, 05:42 and we're just gonna pray 05:44 and ask Brother Kenny to pray God's blessings. 05:48 Loving Father in heaven, what a privilege it is 05:50 today to come before Thee. 05:51 Thank You that we can call You our father. 05:54 What a special time of the year and has been mentioned already, 05:57 this is special time for all of us, 06:00 a time that we can give praise 06:01 and thanksgiving for all that You for us. 06:03 Yes. 06:04 Lord, I'm reminded everyday that is through You 06:06 that we live and that we move and that we have our being. 06:09 There is no life apart from You. 06:11 Today we come together and we come together 06:13 with our 3ABN friends and family around the world. 06:17 Lord, we give You praise and give You honor 06:18 and glory for each and every one of them, 06:21 for each one around the table that has devoted their heart, 06:23 their life into Your service to win souls to Thy kingdom. 06:26 Lord, we thank You for them. Amen. 06:29 Today we ask that the Spirit of the living God 06:32 would touch each of our hearts and each of our lives 06:34 and I serve like what was mentioned 06:36 that it just doesn't need to be one day out of the year 06:39 but why can't this be every day of our lives. 06:42 Every day that we can sing praises unto You. 06:44 Every day that we can read the word, 06:46 every day that we look at nature, 06:47 every day that we are able to get up and move around, 06:50 that we give You praise for everything. 06:53 I'm thankful that You put the world in motion, 06:56 but you haven't forgotten Your creation. 06:58 I thank You for that. 06:59 And thank You for the blessings 07:01 that You have given for life and health and strength 07:03 and for the power of Thy Holy Spirit. 07:05 We ask Lord, that you will bless again all those 07:07 who are viewing, those who hear, 07:09 we pray that this is not just a lunch, 07:11 not at dinner that we're just eating here. 07:14 But we pray that each one will be able to feed, 07:16 even if they are not around the table, 07:18 may their hearts and lives 07:19 be drawn to Jesus Christ right now. 07:21 And may if they never before be able to look up, 07:24 lift up their eyes and say oh, Lord, 07:25 I thank You for what You've provided for us. 07:28 And, Lord, we give You praise, 07:30 give You honor and give You glory. 07:31 Now we ask that You would take possession 07:33 of each of our hearts and our lives 07:35 that we can be a witness for You. 07:37 How we long to be a witness, 07:38 how we long to raise our voice to You and accompany 07:41 by the power of the Holy Spirit will bring changes 07:44 about in each of our lives and each of our hearts. 07:46 We long to draw closer to You and may this be a time 07:49 that we spend, all the work, all the effort, 07:51 every thing has been put into this Thanksgiving day. 07:55 We ask Lord, that You will bless it 07:57 as Thou does see fit. 07:59 Again, accompany with the Holy Spirit. 08:01 Lord, we know this is going to be 08:02 what You would have it to be and we thank You in advance. 08:04 Thank you for the food. 08:06 May it grace and nourish our bodies. 08:07 Give us strength Lord, that we may be fit vessels 08:10 that You would love to dwell in us 08:11 and us in You. 08:13 And we thank You and give you praise in Jesus' name, amen. 08:15 Amen. 08:16 Okay, you all can start eating if you want. 08:18 But while we're doing that, I'd like to get a few, 08:20 a little bit of shot of all of this food 08:23 and I'm gonna talk to maybe Irma and Yvonne, 08:25 some of the ladies and tell us 'cause you didn't know, 08:28 we didn't like cater all this and we actually cooked 08:31 and made this and-- food. 08:33 I heard about it. 08:34 For instance, now who made these hot rolls? 08:37 Does anybody know? I did. 08:38 Jill, yeah, Jill, all right. Okay. 08:41 All right, so we have quite a bit of food here. 08:43 But there is something that you'll notice that is 08:45 missing for most people, probably in their country. 08:48 They're gonna say, "How can you have Thanksgiving 08:51 without a turkey?" 08:52 Well, we're gonna show you, we do have a 3ABN turkey. 08:55 He doesn't happen to be on the table. 08:58 But I think you might see him outside running around 09:02 praising the Lord today. 09:03 He's like I made it through another Thanksgiving. 09:05 In fact, I tell people, 09:07 that's where all the wild turkeys 09:09 come on Thanksgiving. 09:10 They come to 3ABN because they know they will be safe 09:13 at least through this day. 09:14 So we found that there's a lot of other great things 09:16 to eat besides the poor turkey, right. 09:18 This is a bad day to be a soy bean. 09:20 Right. Right. 09:21 You don't want to be a soy bean today. 09:22 So you can be our turkey. 09:24 And but, you know honestly, 09:26 people will eat what they want to 09:28 but we just chose not to here. 09:29 And so there's a lot of great food here. 09:32 Irma, tell me a little bit about it and, Yvonne, 09:34 you guys tells us who made what. 09:36 So the folks will know. 09:37 Irma knows 'cause Irma had helped 09:40 coordinate this whole thing 09:42 and that it's just a major undertaking. 09:44 So Erms, tell us who did what? 09:46 Well, it was really a privilege and it was really 09:49 a joy to do this. 09:50 And I thank everyone of you because there was, 09:54 every one was so cooperative and did everything. 09:57 Earlenne did this wonderful salad we have. 10:01 She brought that for us. 10:03 Yvonne made the greens. Yeah. 10:06 She is the best for the greens. 10:09 We have Dianne made sweet potatoes. 10:13 Josh made the other sweet potato. 10:17 Josh Chance? Josh Chance. 10:18 Josh Chance. He is a wonderful cook. 10:20 Cook book. Yes. 10:23 Jill also made the cabbage salad 10:26 and it looks delicious. 10:28 We have to try and Mollie made our substitute turkey, 10:33 the loaf and she made the gravy also and it looks very good. 10:38 Let me see what else I have that I... 10:41 Who did the grilled vegetables? 10:42 And I made grilled vegetables and the cranberry sauce. 10:48 Hope everybody likes it. 10:51 Chris made the mashed potatoes and they look delicious too. 10:56 Everyone, I hope I didn't miss anyone. 11:00 Definitely, we don't see our pies in here. 11:05 But Angie... There's pies too? 11:08 Yes, we have... Have mercy. 11:09 Pumpkin pie and we have apple pie. 11:12 So we'll enjoy it afterwards. 11:15 And the Lord provided those beautiful grapes 11:18 and all that fruit up there. 11:19 Yes. 11:20 We are told that most of it is real 11:22 but they say be careful before you bite, 11:23 there may be something in there that maybe it's for looks. 11:27 So, well, be careful before we grab in to any of that. 11:32 Yes. 11:33 And we have sparking grape juice. 11:35 Oh, yeah, sparking-- just so everybody knows. 11:39 This is grape juice, okay, all right. 11:42 And it's unfermented grape juice and that's-- 11:45 right, C.A., right Pastor. 11:47 Amen. Absolutely. 11:50 And then they made some really nice 11:52 little fruit desserts here too. 11:54 Gloria Nolan. 11:55 Gloria Nolan, what do say that Yvonne, 11:57 she's the bomb in that one... 11:58 She is the bomb. She is the bomb. 12:00 That's probably not a good word today 12:01 to be talking about. 12:03 Oh, that's true. 12:04 We have to change some of our expressions. 12:05 Yeah, I've talked about it, people, 12:07 we go to foreign countries and they "Man, 12:09 we need to set the world on fire." 12:11 And they don't know what that means 12:12 and we are talking about it spiritually as Christians 12:15 spread this like, you know. 12:16 But nowadays you have to be careful 12:18 'cause some foreign countries is like, "What? 12:20 Spread on fire, what do you mean?" 12:22 Yeah, yeah. 12:23 So anyway, you'll know that we mean 12:24 well in what we say, but absolutely, Gloria Nolan, 12:27 she volunteers her time at church, 12:31 any thing we need here at 3ABN, 12:33 she is always here and such a blessing to us. 12:36 We would get her on camera but she's-- 12:38 doesn't like to be on camera very often. 12:41 But thank you. She is still helping us to... 12:42 Oh, thank you, Gloria... From the background. 12:44 For what you all are doing here. 12:47 We're gonna, I know some would be eating 12:49 and some is not going to be able to. 12:51 But when you have family, your family, you know, 12:53 you come from somewhere, it's easy 12:54 when you're young, you're growing up, you know, 12:56 I have brothers and sisters like Kenny and Tammy 12:58 and Tommy and Ronny and mom and dad. 13:00 So we got together and then we'd go with our 13:02 aunt and uncle Olin and Milder 13:04 and Uncle Bud and Aunt Wonda, 13:06 some you know, Uncle Paul and we can go on down the line, 13:08 Aunt Ruby and so you had all this family 13:11 because literally it was a physical family. 13:14 But there's other family besides your physical family. 13:17 And sometimes you can draw closer to spiritual family 13:21 and then you can-- physical family 13:23 because all the family may not be Christians 13:25 or they may have different values. 13:28 And so 3ABN, we have a family. 13:30 We do. You are part of that family. 13:32 But we have a number of folks here. 13:34 But we probably have close to 150 people that are 13:37 literally working here. 13:38 A lot of those you won't see are behind the cameras 13:40 or in the control rooms. 13:42 Some of those prepared the food, 13:43 some of those are gonna clean up afterwards, 13:45 every body is important in the sight of God 13:47 so we appreciate every body that's here 13:50 and we appreciate you for what you do in support of 3ABN, 13:54 that we can take the undiluted Three Angels' Messages, 13:57 one that would counteract 13:59 the counterfeit into all the world. 14:01 And we've seen some tremendous things happening, 14:04 even this past year prophecy has been 14:07 fulfilled before our eyes and to me it's exciting. 14:11 It's not a time to be discouraged. 14:12 It's not a time you look at the things happening in Paris. 14:16 You know, you look at airplane coming down, 14:18 you look at all those and people are living in fear. 14:22 They don't know what to think about. 14:23 New York's is on heightened, you know, 14:25 security and should be, all of these things. 14:28 But as a Christian, you know that things are gonna 14:31 get worse and worse and worse. 14:33 I don't care who's running for president. 14:35 They can promise you the world 14:37 but they can't give you the world. 14:38 That's right. 14:39 Jesus can promise you eternal life 14:41 but He can come through. 14:42 You see, the rest of it can't. 14:44 So that's why we need to keep our eyes focused 14:46 on the Lord Jesus Christ 14:48 and not on all the things around us. 14:50 But "Great peace have they which love thy Lord. 14:52 Nothing shall offend them." 14:54 Or my dad would say, would tear them up. 14:56 You know, He said, 14:57 "Boy, I tell you, I'm all tore up," 14:58 you know about something. 15:00 So we don't need to be all tore up, right. 15:01 That's right. 15:03 We can-- we don't have to be 'cause we can have a peace 15:05 that the world doesn't know anything about. 15:07 The world didn't give it, the world can't take it away. 15:09 Am I right? 15:11 And we can see all these things that are going on in the world 15:13 and we don't have to be afraid. 15:14 No. 15:16 Because the Lord promised that He would be with us. 15:18 He'll never leave us or forsake us. 15:20 So we have him. 15:22 We have the Lord, which is the answer 15:24 that so many people don't have and that's why we are here. 15:28 And that's what's wonderful about it. 15:30 And so we don't have to worry as you said about 15:34 what's happening around us but we should actually be 15:37 excited for the opportunity to say Jesus, 15:39 you are coming. 15:41 So now we need to look at what we're doing for you, 15:43 look at our resources and how can we use these 15:46 to help promote the gospel. 15:47 Amen. 15:49 Because there is the loss and dying world 15:50 that knows nothing about Jesus Christ. 15:52 Still yet, in these times of earth's history, 15:55 they can watch television but sometimes it's just, 15:58 you need a hug, you need a touch. 16:00 Somebody needs to say, you know, I love you. 16:02 And so each and everyone of you, 16:05 3ABN can do a great job but each and every one of you, 16:08 God has called you for such an hour 16:09 as this to love somebody. 16:11 Yes. 16:12 We say around here, love their ears off, 16:13 well, not physically,you know, love their socks off, okay. 16:17 Just love their socks off maybe. 16:18 But people need to know that you love them 16:21 and they are surprised. 16:22 Why do you love me because Jesus died for me. 16:24 That's right. So and He died for you. 16:26 So we're brothers and sisters in the Lord. 16:29 So what we want to do is since our family here, 16:32 we came from a lot of different areas of the country 16:34 and some of those, number of our workers 16:37 live outside the United States. 16:38 Some have moved here. 16:40 We still have people in places like the Philippines 16:42 and New Guinea and Russia. 16:44 That's not part of this and we want to say 16:46 happy Thanksgiving to all of our 16:47 Russian family over there. 16:49 Julia Outkina and that entire crew also. 16:51 Australia with John and Rose and our Australian crew. 16:55 So we have crews around the country 16:56 but for those of us here 16:58 I'd like to start and probably what we'll do is 17:01 as soon as-- I'll give a little notice when Greg 17:04 gets through chewing just a little bit, 17:06 you know 'cause he's eating. 17:08 We'll give him time, you don't have 17:09 to show him chewing but when he is through, 17:11 when he is through, we'll give him notice. 17:13 So Greg and Jill... Swallow quick, Greg. 17:14 Yeah, okay. 17:16 Greg and Jill, I want you to spend just a little time, 17:18 four, five six minutes whatever you want, 17:20 you and Jill, talk about how you first came to 3ABN 17:24 and then how you and Jill met maybe, 17:26 and how you got heard of 3ABN 17:28 and a little bit about what you do now. 17:30 We've got time so just take your time with it. 17:32 Yeah, you know, being in 3ABN is a real blessing 17:34 because it's like Danny was saying, 17:36 it's a family here but it's also neat 17:38 because it's an extended family. 17:40 I mean, you there in your living room or kitchen 17:41 wherever you're at, 17:42 that's a blessing of being at 3ABN 17:44 because it's not just the workers here. 17:45 But it's very much a bigger family than, 17:48 than the employees here. 17:49 You know I came to 3ABN in 1999 as a college intern. 17:54 So I was a few years younger then and it was 17:57 really I you know, I look back at that time 17:58 as a real miracle that brought here at 3ABN 18:00 because I had several places that I was applying 18:03 to as an internship and one of them 18:06 was the 3ABN and I was getting down to my deadline 18:09 when I had to make a decision where I'm going to go. 18:11 And I hadn't heard back from 3ABN 18:13 that I could come here and intern. 18:16 So I decided well, 18:17 before I say yes to this other ministry, 18:19 I'm going to actually check my e-mail one more time 18:22 and see if I heard back from 3ABN. 18:24 So it was within a matter probably ten minutes 18:26 that I would have went to, say another ministry 18:29 versus 3ABN. 18:30 And I'm very grateful to the Lord 18:32 because I feel definitely 18:34 because of that that God placed me here at 3ABN. 18:37 So I came obviously as an intern. 18:40 But when I was in school actually, 18:41 before I went to college just before I met this 18:44 lovely woman that is sitting next to me. 18:46 And we were classmates actually at school 18:48 we were actually on a traveling choir together. 18:52 We did a lot of things together. 18:53 And we became great friends. 18:55 We met in the cafeteria actually 18:56 so this is kind of apropos. 18:58 That's true. 18:59 It's a good point. 19:01 I sat down at the same table where Greg was 19:03 and we sat across from each other and I met him 19:06 and thought I, oh, I get to go to school with him. 19:08 He's just really nice. So this is crazy. 19:10 So okay, at that moment, I'm sitting across from her 19:12 and you know, I had that thought, 19:14 you're going to marry that lady someday. 19:16 Wow. 19:17 But you know, let me say this, 19:19 you can't just go off of those impression 19:20 because I've had other impressions 19:21 that you don't, guys, 19:23 you don't-- glad didn't work out. 19:25 The women loved it though, 19:26 did you hear all the oohs and uhs. 19:29 Anyway. God is good. So... We did. 19:32 But anyway we were married in 2002. 19:35 And then you moved here then. That's right. 19:39 'Cause I came to 3ABN really because of Greg 19:41 I guess you can say, initially. 19:43 We corresponded after college through letters 19:45 and on the phone. 19:47 And he was here at 3ABN 19:49 and he would tell me about the ministry 19:50 and what was taking place and what was happening 19:53 and I was really excited about 19:54 what was taking place here at the ministry at 3ABN. 19:57 And then I moved here when we got married 20:00 and it's been such a blessing. 20:01 You know God just poured into my heart 20:04 the mission of 3ABN, the ministry you know, 20:07 to spread the undiluted Three Angels' Messages 20:09 around the world. 20:10 And it's such a blessing to be part of the 3ABN family here 20:15 and part of the 3ABN family you at home as well. 20:18 It's such a blessing. 20:19 We consider each one of you as part of our family here. 20:22 Amen. Thank you. 20:24 Isn't that neat to hear those stories? 20:26 In a matter, would you say ten minutes? 20:28 About ten minutes I think would have been the difference. 20:29 Would have made all the difference, 20:31 whether Greg and Jill would've been here 20:32 or somewhere else. 20:34 Yeah, that's true. 20:35 And praise the Lord that right in the nick of time 20:39 you all came because what a tremendous asset 20:42 they are to this ministry. 20:44 And Jill came so we don't just say okay, 20:46 we'll hire Greg and will hire your wife. 20:48 Jill came with so many-- first of all, 20:50 she's a great music teacher, works with the kids for years. 20:54 She's absolutely a great writer. 20:56 She does incredible writing. 20:59 My letters right now, they're written by her. 21:02 She and I go over them 21:03 but she makes them look really nice. 21:05 And she actually can sometimes she'll say things 21:08 softer than I might-- 21:10 Mollie used to do that for me 21:12 and I'd say, well, Mollie just-- 21:14 she would say, "Well, just say whatever you want." 21:16 She dictates. You'd do shorthand? 21:18 Yeah, you would dictate it. I would take it in shorthand. 21:20 Yeah. 21:22 And then we would kind of massage it a little. 21:24 Yeah. 21:25 Then I would get it back and I would say, 21:27 "Is that what I said, Mollie? 21:29 I thought I was really telling." 21:30 My mom used to say tell him how the hog ate the cabbage. 21:32 I don't know what that means. 21:34 But it meant you know, you are being... 21:36 Eating stuff. 21:37 C.A. Murray. 21:38 Hey, you all ain't telling me only once got a few sayings. 21:40 We've got some of our own stuff too, 21:43 right, right, right. 21:45 We've got our own stuff. 21:46 So, Mollie, I'd say, "Was that," she'd say. 21:48 "Well, the reason I changed it 'cause I know you 21:50 and that's the way you really want to say it." 21:53 And how you're going to say no that. 21:55 I'd say, you know, Mollie, and I knew she was right. 21:57 You know. 21:58 And so thank you for what you're doing. 22:00 Jill, that-- but you're also great on air because 22:02 she does her own programs now. 22:04 Tell us about the program you're doing? 22:06 It's called Heart lift 22:07 and it actually has not aired yet 22:08 but it's going to air in January. 22:10 January third. It starts to air. 22:11 And it's a woman's program. 22:13 I'm so excited about it because I think that's a niche 22:16 that we can really reach that we can target. 22:18 And it just talks about how God wants to bring this 22:21 transformation in our hearts and in our lives. 22:24 It talks about fear and sadness and purity and forgiveness. 22:30 All of that stuff and how God just wants to work 22:32 in our lives and bring His victory. 22:34 Okay. Wonderful. 22:35 What we're going to do 22:36 we're going to go to Roy and Earlene. 22:38 Now this is going be a little bit 22:40 tough to do on camera 22:41 but I think everybody's about done 22:42 with their salad. 22:44 So if you all from that end want to pass this way, 22:46 and you all over their pass that down. 22:48 We'll get rid of the salad bowl. 22:49 And we can do that while you all are sharing this. 22:53 Just somebody will take yours from you just 22:54 pass it down to John. 22:56 There you go. 22:57 There you go there you go-- 22:58 no Roy is going to pass this way me 23:00 bring everything towards me this end 23:02 and then Roy you, 23:03 you and Earlene talk to us for a bit. 23:06 Okay. Once we get coordinated here. 23:09 All right, all right. 23:11 I know we've got people going to get all this. 23:13 Go ahead we'll try to stay out of your way here. 23:16 Well, I tell you we've been here, 23:18 we're going on six years now. 23:21 And when we look back, it has been a real journey, 23:25 a journey that the Lord led us to 3ABN. 23:31 About five and a half years ago, 23:34 something like that and if you have lost a job, 23:39 you know probably the feelings 23:41 that you have when you lose a job. 23:43 And I got a pink slip. I mean, I'll be right up front. 23:46 I got a pink slip. I can't imagine why. 23:49 But you know, it just happened. 23:51 And probably, for two days I was really down and out. 23:58 I couldn't imagine being let go. 24:02 And I got a phone call two days later 24:07 from a gentlemen that's around this table. 24:09 His name is Brian Hamilton. 24:11 And for the first time, I had to laugh and smile 24:16 because his first comment was 24:18 "Roy, I heard you got your socks knocked off." 24:23 And I thought well, 24:25 that's a unique way of saying things. 24:28 But he was very encouraging and actually made, 24:33 I believe an invitation at that point to come to 3ABN. 24:38 But we weren't quite sure. 24:41 We had several possibilities of you know, 24:44 doing different things. 24:46 We prayed about it. 24:47 We went to visit several of the areas 24:51 that people wanted us to be and we came here to 3ABN. 24:56 And we just felt after being on the grounds 24:59 here that we were on holy ground. 25:01 Amen. Amen. 25:02 And that we should be at Three Angels' Broadcasting. 25:05 Amen. 25:06 We look back and the Lord works in mysterious ways. 25:10 And we look, why did He allow it to happen 25:13 where we came from. 25:16 But when we look back He knew that we should be here at 3ABN. 25:19 I want to add something to this. 25:21 I want to add that I was working still full time. 25:25 And I got kind of a funny feeling in me 25:30 when I heard the over the PA system, 25:33 "All those people who were let go, 25:36 we want you to-- we want to tell you 25:38 they're going to be coming back. 25:41 We have hired them back. 25:42 And if you got a promotion or you got moved to some, 25:45 some other desk, please get up and move and go back to 25:47 where you were, 25:49 because these people will be coming back." 25:53 I called my husband I said. 25:54 "Have you heard? You're hired back." 25:57 He said, No, I haven't heard a thing." 25:59 I said, "Really, but he just made an announcement 26:01 that you were hired back." 26:03 So from there, what did you get to do? 26:06 Well, you know what, they said. "You're hired." 26:11 I'd already been hired at 3ABN and we didn't know what to do. 26:16 And I called Brian and said, "You know, 26:18 I'm in a particular situation I've never been in. 26:22 I got hired back after being let go. 26:25 And I've been hired at 3ABN." 26:28 And he says, "Well, pray about it and decide 26:31 what you know, let the Lord lead." 26:32 Yes. 26:34 And we prayed very seriously because not only 26:37 had he been hired back, but we had two other places 26:40 looking at us as well as 3ABN. 26:43 But we felt God's presence here. 26:47 We had no reason to make this choice ourselves. 26:50 God made it for us, what you think? 26:52 Absolutely. I can say a big amen to that. 26:56 And of everything that we've done in our career, 27:00 we have worked in a lot of church organizations, 27:04 everything that we have done, this is number one. 27:08 And the reason is, it's because you know, 27:11 God was in everything else we were doing. 27:15 But here at 3ABN, we get to see instant results of what we do. 27:20 We can go on television. And we can do a program. 27:24 And people respond immediately. 27:27 The telephones would ring. 27:29 Whatever the program is, we get instant response. 27:33 And it's gratifying to see that. 27:35 So we're not gratifying ourselves, 27:38 spiritually we feel like 3ABN is the most spiritual position 27:44 that we've ever had because of the feedback 27:46 that we get from our, our clients, and our viewers, 27:50 and our listeners. 27:52 Amen. 27:53 Yes. We are very blessed to be here. 27:55 Thank you so much. 27:56 This is the family that invited us. 27:57 We thank you. Well, praise the Lord. 28:00 We're so glad that you're here 28:02 and you do a great job, both of you. 28:04 Same way Roy comes and Earlene, 28:05 they work as a team. 28:06 Yes. 28:08 And so it's not just one, it's both of them. 28:11 Let me tell my side of the story... 28:14 All right. 28:16 We have been discussing, we wanted the couple 28:19 that would come to groom 28:22 to take Leonard and Rita's place 28:25 'Cause they were getting up in age and I got news. 28:29 It was shocking to me that Roy had been let go. 28:32 But the first thought I had when I heard 28:35 that was praise the Lord. 28:38 This is great, you know. 28:40 So then we extended the invitation 28:43 and that's history. 28:45 That is history and the Lord had His hand 28:48 in you giving us a call. 28:49 Absolutely, we believe that too. 28:51 I do think we should always look back. 28:54 Because when I was a little I was a preacher's kid. 28:57 And I was little and I kept looking up to all of these 29:00 older church members and thinking, wow, 29:03 they have such awesome stories. 29:06 I just want to be an old person. 29:08 They all were blessed by God, 29:10 they all seem to have what they needed. 29:11 Now we are. 29:13 You must've wished that on me too. 29:15 Now I am. 29:18 But it has really come to the point 29:20 that I do you feel like I am one of those people 29:23 and, we have to look back. 29:24 Because it's looking back that we realize the road 29:27 we came over and God has never left our side. 29:33 Never, never ever. 29:36 Well, we're going to move around to John and Angie. 29:40 For some of you folk won't understand 29:41 what I'm about to say, this is very interesting. 29:44 If you would have asked me when 3ABN started, 29:48 30 years ago, 31 years ago 29:51 about the makeup of the people here 29:55 and said I can see 31 years down the road 29:57 to make up of the folk here I would have said, 29:59 not Franklin County. 30:01 We're from Franklin County, Franklin County-- 30:02 we were born in an area, 30:04 we're basically all white people, 30:05 right Kenny, and you know, we didn't have 30:07 any minorities hardly at all now. 30:09 We had-- we grew up in an era 30:11 where a lot of the parents of kids 30:13 we went to school with, 30:15 their grandparents had came, you know, 30:18 immigrants from Europe and from you know, 30:21 all the different European countries. 30:22 But it's basically a white area and so I never really 30:26 talked to any blacks or minorities and-- 30:29 most of my life until I was grown 30:31 and I know I went to Berrien Springs Michigan 30:33 for four years. 30:34 And in the 70s not to go to school, 30:36 I managed the lumberyard. 30:38 I should've gone school but I managed a lumberyard. 30:40 And so I met a lot of God's wonderful people there 30:44 from different nationalities but when-- 30:46 if somebody would ask me, you know, this is a family, 30:49 God's family makes up every color, every race, 30:51 every culture, every background and 3ABN 30:54 just about has that here. 30:55 We have people from numerous countries, 30:57 plus we have people from within America 31:00 who are of different backgrounds. 31:01 Some come from the cities. 31:03 One of those, I want to talk to you about or have 31:06 talked to right now is John and Angie, 31:08 'cause when you talk to them any more than ten minutes, 31:11 you're going to hear word from John, 31:12 even in basketball in New York. 31:14 It's going to come out. 31:16 John tell us how Mr. New York and Mr. and Mrs. New York 31:19 end up in Southern Illinois and the whole county 31:22 only has 44,000 people. 31:24 Wow. How did you end up here? 31:27 Well, just a real nutshell, We've been married now 32 years. 31:31 Praise the Lord for that. Amen. 31:33 And from teenagers we-- we met in Brooklyn, New York. 31:36 Remember what church, Honey? 31:37 Yeah, Bethel, at 16 years old. At 16 years old. 31:40 We grew up together. 31:41 And we pretty much grew up together. 31:44 The Lord guided in our lives. 31:47 Shortly after we got married, 31:49 we moved from New York City to Orlando, Florida. 31:54 And there, because music was so much a part of what I did 31:57 before I gave my life to the Lord, 32:00 I got rid of all the worldly music 32:02 and got involved in Christian music. 32:04 And the Lord worked it out 32:06 that I got into a music position there 32:10 where I was involved in the Talent search. 32:11 And one evening, I had a concert 32:15 and my mother-in-law, 32:16 Angie's mom bought us some tickets to go 32:19 to Heritage Singers' concert and I said I can't go. 32:22 Because I already have my own concert. 32:24 She said you have to go. 32:25 And what I didn't know that that God was setting up 32:28 an appointment there, 32:29 which would prove to be the door 32:31 that opened our hearts up to ministry after traveling 32:35 for number of years with Heritage Singers, 32:37 opened the door to ministry. 32:38 And then we started a ministry, remember what year? 32:41 I think it was 1987. 32:43 We started in Northern California Conference 32:45 with Pastor Doug Batchelor. 32:48 And just to condense the story, 2002, 32:52 we accepted a call from 32:54 the Northern California Conference 32:55 to the Iowa, Missouri Conference, 32:57 which was a very reluctant thing on our part. 32:59 Well, you know when your church is full 33:00 and thriving, you say, why would I want to go anywhere? 33:04 And I came to the Midwest in the mountains of California, 33:07 it was so beautiful, I think... 33:09 Northern California. Northern California. 33:11 We said "Why would you want to leave a beautiful place 33:13 like this to come to a small town in the Midwest?" 33:18 But God had planned it. Amen. 33:19 So we went to St. Louis first. 33:22 And to give my wife 33:24 a little chance to speak to you, 33:25 remember why we went to St. Louis? 33:29 Why we went to St. Louis? Yeah. 33:31 Oh, it's for the church. 33:32 Remember, you got a call to pastor the church 33:35 in St. Louis, St. Louis Central. 33:37 And I just said to them, no. He said no. 33:39 Three times, no, no, no. We were happy. 33:43 They said, don't say no again till you come to Missouri. 33:46 So we went, prayed about it, Okay, Lord, 33:49 we won't say no what do you want us to do 33:50 and He led us to Missouri. 33:52 We were only there nine months. 33:55 Because we were there for particular project 33:57 that we discovered afterwards. 33:58 They didn't financially have the ability to make it happen 34:01 to turn a church into a media church. 34:03 So I sat on the edge of my bed and I said, "Oh, Lord." 34:05 Come on. 34:07 "You knew this wasn't gonna work, 34:09 why would You bring us-- why would You make us leave 34:11 California come to Missouri? 34:14 What would You want to-- why would You do that?" 34:17 And I didn't get any immediate answers 34:20 but I said. 34:21 "What would you want us to do with the rest of our lives?" 34:24 Two days later... Got a phone call. 34:25 Roy, two days later, I got a call from Danny. 34:30 And Danny said, "We've been praying about this 34:32 and your name came up. 34:33 Conference came up with your name 34:34 and we'd like you to come to be the pastor of a church 34:38 we're building. 34:39 And I knew then. 34:41 My wife and I said, okay, that's what the Lord 34:43 wants us to do and we came here on what year, 34:45 do you remember what year it was? 34:46 2002 and you... 34:47 2003 and you brought John Stanton. 34:50 That's right. A basketball player. 34:53 So when we came, this is funny. 34:56 When we came to Thompsonville, 34:59 there's so many other little details, 35:00 I'll leave up but when we came to Thompsonville 35:02 and we were at a church meeting, 35:03 somebody asked Danny, "Well, can he preach?" 35:06 Well. 35:07 And Danny said, "Well, I don't know 35:09 but I know he could play basketball." 35:12 And John Stanton was 6'10"? Yeah. 35:14 I'm 6'2 1/2" 6' 3" 35:17 and that's how our journey began. 35:18 And you know what's amazing about when God leads... 35:20 Come on. 35:22 I have a phrase, God never leads you 35:23 where He doesn't prepare you for it. 35:25 Thank you. 35:26 And music, traveling the world, 35:29 had God molded us that way through the years, 35:32 so that when we came here, we were meeting people that 35:35 sang and were involved in ministry and came from 35:37 different parts of the world. 35:38 But the greatest miracle I think coming here Danny, 35:40 and Brothers and Sisters in Christ is that, 35:44 when my wife came here they called me for ministry 35:46 but the Lord developed in my wife something that 35:48 I never ever imagined she would do. 35:51 Tell them what you do. I work for radio. 35:56 I do radio produce-- 35:58 Well, I host a program 35:59 which I never thought I would host. 36:01 And I do editing and all that I just-- 36:05 when John used to do his editing at home... 36:08 Audio editing. 36:09 Audio editing, John used to say, 36:11 "Look at the wave file, I was, I'd wave, "Bye-bye." 36:14 I didn't want to see it. 36:15 I'm like, I don't want to see that. 36:17 Now I'm doing wave files. The Lord is amazing. Amen. 36:20 I never thought I would be doing this. 36:22 The very thing that Angie didn't like 36:24 is the very thing that she's been doing 36:25 for the last seven or eight years. 36:27 It's called "Wave" files. And editing audio file. 36:29 She makes people sound cognitive on the radio. 36:33 Yeah, I just take out the hmms and-- things like that. 36:37 But God is so good. 36:39 And we've grown you know, I finally gave up 36:41 the battle of color of my hair, so all that preconceived ideas, 36:45 whether my hair is plastic 36:46 or whether it's real, I kind of put that to sleep. 36:49 But what's so wonderful about being here though, 36:52 is the ministry. 36:53 Yes. Amen. 36:55 It's unlike any place else we have been. 36:58 We got the opportunities, we've been in Conference work 37:00 for 29 years now and but being here 37:03 where the visions are happening so quickly. 37:05 Miracles. And the miracles are happening. 37:07 And I know now that we're here, 37:10 there are certain things that had to transpire 37:11 for us to get here that are not in the normal routine of 3ABN. 37:15 And I knew that because that happened. 37:18 And strangely enough on I think I'll segue 37:20 back to you on this one, the very home that I stayed in, 37:25 when I came here the very first time, 37:28 the invitation was-- I was in California. 37:30 I got to tell this short story. 37:32 Somebody called me from 3ABN. 37:33 Dee actually, Dee Hildebrand had said 37:34 "Whenever you're in the area, 37:37 whenever you in the area, 37:39 stop by and we'd like you to sing for us." 37:40 And I said "Where is the area?" He said, "Well, Thompsonville." 37:45 I said, "Where is that? She said, "Illinois." 37:46 I said, "To be honest with you, I've never been to that area." 37:50 She said, "What would it take to get you hear?" 37:51 I said, "Well, a plane ticket." 37:53 "And how far are you from the airport? 37:55 "About two hours." "Well, just rent a car." 37:57 I don't need any money for that." 37:59 And lo and behold, five minutes later 38:00 she said it's done. 38:02 And we knew after being here for the years 38:04 that we've been here we know that's not normal. 38:06 No. God had other plans. 38:08 Even the house you stayed in. Even the house, right. 38:10 This house I stayed in when I visited, 38:12 is the house we live in now. 38:14 Amen. Mrs. Ford's house. Mrs. Ford's house. 38:15 It's still called, we still call 38:17 Mrs. Ford's house. 38:18 But God has a house for us. 38:20 He had a ministry for us, we're growing together, 38:22 getting older together. 38:23 And now, God has added a number of other things 38:26 to my hat as a director of World Evangelism 38:29 which is another thing that makes my heart beat 38:32 with excitement 38:33 so I believe that the mission of 3ABN matches our lives. 38:37 And we love to proclaim the undiluted messages. 38:40 Oh, yes. 38:41 And I've been doing that for years. 38:42 So the Lord said, 38:44 You always like telling the truth, 38:45 go someplace where it's not prohibited. 38:47 Praise the Lord for that. Glad to be here. 38:50 What a blessing that John and Angie, 38:52 and Roy and Earlene, and Greg and Jill has been 38:56 giving their testimony so far but C.A. 38:59 always says people ask him, 39:00 "Do you guys really like each other?" 39:02 I mean, off camera. We do. 39:04 A lot of times we go eat together, 39:06 we do things together. 39:08 John and I play ball on Tuesday nights together 39:10 and Bruce over here, my brother-in-law. 39:12 We like doing things. 39:13 We do things together but incredible people 39:16 that this is by design. 39:18 E.T. Everett said long time ago "This is a set up." 39:22 You know, usually you think about 39:23 that when something goes bad in your life 39:25 but with God it's a set up for the good things. 39:28 But if you look at any small turn, 39:31 that could have kept Jill or Greg here. 39:35 Could have kept Roy and Earlene. 39:36 They almost didn't make it. 39:38 John and he was supposed to be in Missouri. 39:40 But it didn't happen. 39:42 Those things that didn't happen, 39:43 actually happened. 39:45 Is that too deep or do I need to say that again? 39:47 I love that. 39:48 The things that didn't happen actually did happen 39:52 because that was God just designed in the physical, 39:55 it didn't look like it happened. 39:56 But it did happen. That's why you're here. 39:59 But that's a difference in the physical 40:02 and the spiritual. 40:03 Am I right? Yes. 40:04 Somewhat material Danny, Somewhat material. 40:06 And then when John, he was up front in the church 40:11 and we told the members to come out 40:12 and John Lomacang 40:14 and John Stanton, just like he said, 40:16 John is 6'3"e or so and John Stanton is 6'10" 40:19 They were up there and Ron Hoag who would, 40:21 had been a Pentecostal Christian 40:23 in the area watching 3ABN and become a member baptized. 40:27 Well, he was born and raised most of his life here 40:30 in Southern Illinois too 40:31 so he's looking at John like this 40:34 and he's looking at him while he's talking for a while 40:36 and I see him looking back and forth 40:38 and he pretty soon when he's through he said. 40:41 John said, "You got any questions?" 40:42 And people said, "Well, yeah, 40:44 now how do you feel about such and such or you know, 40:47 what your message you..." 40:48 You know they gave him little things. 40:50 John had answer and he looks at me says. 40:53 "I cannot be open with you, 40:55 I mean, really if you are our pastor here... 40:59 Go on. 41:00 And people say I met your pastor, 41:03 what am I supposed to say you are?" 41:05 He goes, "I mean, are you, you're not white, 41:08 are you black? 41:10 Are you, you know, what are you?" 41:12 You know, I mean you know, there were people 41:14 it's never so you are in your, I'll call it ignorance. 41:17 It's okay 'cause I'm ignorant just mean you didn't know. 41:20 John looks at him and he said, "I'm all things to all people. 41:22 I'm red, yellow, black and white. 41:25 I am Filipino, my mother's Filipino, 41:27 my dad is black but I have I have European in me." 41:30 He said I've got Indian in me. So he said I'm red. 41:33 I'm all things to all people. 41:35 So what better pastor to have one 41:37 who is some of everybody, right. 41:40 So he's a combination of everything, right. 41:42 I feel like the Thanksgiving dinner 41:43 all rolled up in one. 41:49 Well, it is true when he goes to India, 41:52 he's taller than most of them but the people there 41:55 sometimes think he's Indian. 41:56 John, what do you say? 41:57 "Don't worry about it." 41:59 "What you doing?" "What you doing?" 42:01 I mean, he sounds like them too, 42:03 but no matter where you go, John fits in. 42:07 So I found that from Garwin McNeilus. 42:08 He called me some time ago and said, 42:10 "I want you to go to Africa with me 42:12 and we're building these one day schools and churches. 42:16 Can you go?" 42:17 Well, it worked out, 42:18 my schedule didn't go and I said, 42:20 I said what we need somebody, he said, well, 42:21 you can you talk and you know, 42:23 preach saying whatever be there. 42:25 So I said, well. 42:27 I don't know if John and Angie, they travel some. 42:29 "Well, yeah, I'd love to let me have him call me." 42:32 so they worked it out. 42:33 They went with Garwin. 42:35 And I saw him a few weeks later. 42:36 He said, "Danny thank you so much for letting John go. 42:39 He worked out a lot better than you would have." 42:42 He said, the people loved him. But here's what he said. 42:45 "This man knew how to hang with 42:49 and be with the poorest of the poor 42:51 in that country. 42:53 But he also knew how to hold himself 42:56 and to be in the presence of the president 42:59 and the governors." 43:00 So he said "John really is all things to all people." 43:04 He said, he said he can identify and adapt. 43:07 And I said that's because he loves people. 43:09 And so it does not matter 43:11 whether you're rich, poor, whatever but he identifies 43:14 so thank you, John, 43:15 for your ministry and Angie, for what you guys do. 43:17 We're hoping you can stay the whole time 43:19 but I know you got to catch a flight later. 43:21 So I'm glad you got to give a little bit. 43:24 We're gonna move on now to C.A. 43:27 He's been putting a lot of food away. 43:28 You noticed that? Yeah. 43:29 He is taking it, he is taking it seriously 43:32 that this is Thanksgiving dinner. 43:34 I don't if Irma didn't give you breakfast. 43:35 Well, I stayed up, she did not. 43:37 I stayed up till 2 o'clock in the morning. 43:38 Got me studying. 43:41 So that's why, so, why don't you guys 43:43 talk to us for a bit. 43:45 What brought you here 43:46 and how did you guys get together, a little bit. 43:48 However you want to do it and what brought you here 43:50 and what you do that you are here? 43:52 Our journey really began over dinner. 43:55 You recall. 43:56 You came out to New York and Irma actually coordinated 43:59 that particular dinner 44:01 and made a lot of food then. 44:02 So this is as Jill says, this is very providential 44:05 that we're eating again because it started with food. 44:08 It really started with Owen Troy, 44:10 great friend, great mentor of mine 44:12 who was talking about 3ABN, 3ABN, 3ABN 44:15 and he was certain as he talked about Mollie Steenson, 44:17 he talked about Danny Shelton. 44:19 There are people he would talk about 44:20 and he's painted this glowing picture. 44:22 And then I ran into Rubin Carr. 44:24 Oh, yeah. Ruben. We love Ruben. 44:26 And Ruben just idolized Danny Shelton. 44:29 He would talk about Danny Shelton day and night. 44:31 Ruben is my hero. 44:32 And I said, Ruben, nobody can be as good 44:34 as this guy you are painting the picture of. 44:36 He said, no. He's the real deal. 44:38 He's honest he's this, he's that. 44:40 And I said-- Well, so we got in the car one day 44:42 and we all just drove out here for camp meeting. 44:44 And I got a chance to meet you. 44:46 But we didn't we just-- 44:47 Hi, how're you doing kind of thing. 44:49 And then you came to New York. 44:50 I had asked Mollie 44:52 'cause I would need to get that story. 44:53 So said, I would like to see, I know the plans with you. 44:57 With Melody and me. 44:59 With Melody and you. And I knew the part. 45:01 And you're coming 45:03 and I said let's-- let's do a little trio. 45:06 I did not know till I got here that you said absolutely not. 45:09 Absolutely not. 45:10 No way that's going to happen. No, that is not gonna happen. 45:14 I'm only going to a camp-- 45:15 how many people were there, 8,000? 45:17 Eight, between eight to nine thousand, yeah. 45:18 Eight to nine thousand people. 45:20 We've never practiced together. 45:21 I don't know that the man can carry a tune or not. 45:24 And so... Yeah, it needs to be. 45:26 Yvonne, if somebody said that to you, 45:28 hey, I'm going to do a duet with you. 45:30 In public, you'll say no. right? 45:31 No. Absolutely not. 45:34 It's not like we had time 45:35 to really get to know each other and sing 45:37 and I mean you know, 45:39 he could've just got out of prison. 45:41 I don't know what he did. 45:43 I mean, he could've just robbed a bank 45:45 or done anything but you know, when somebody just says 45:48 I'm gonna sing with you it, 45:49 you like to at least know who they are. 45:51 Well, I was the pastor in the conference at the time. 45:53 Yeah, well, that's true. In my defense. 45:54 I knew that. It's not just out of prison. 45:57 I know. I knew that. I knew that. 45:59 But I'm making the point-- 46:00 Let me make my point whether it's all true or not 46:03 I mean, it's you know, 46:05 we colored it just a little bit. 46:06 But they get, they get the point. 46:08 But honestly, so I said no, you know, Mollie, I said. 46:10 She said, "No, he wants to sing with you." 46:13 And I said well, I don't know him. 46:14 I don't know if he can carry a tune." 46:15 She said "He's black." 46:17 They all-- all don't can all black people sing." 46:18 Oh. 46:19 And at the time I thought they could. 46:24 I have found out that it's not everybody can sing. 46:27 You know for sure. 46:28 Most black people do sing great, 46:30 but so, we get there 46:32 and so C.A. says, "I'm eating. 46:34 And we're going to practice a song." 46:36 And I said 46:37 "Well, if you're going to sing let me hear you." 46:39 And he knew the words better and I did he knew it perfectly. 46:42 I said okay, you're in. 46:44 So then he went and fed me at his house. 46:47 So now you are definitely in and Irma cooked. 46:49 So I said, you're in now. 46:50 So that's how the music came down. 46:52 It wasn't quite that way. 46:53 Danny pop that CD, I said put it in and sing it. 46:56 Oh, yeah. 46:58 I know he was standing right there 47:00 and so I put in and we sang it. 47:01 You had to audition? 47:03 Oh, yeah, I had to audition. 47:04 But I guess, from there within the next 30 minutes 47:06 we were singing before that... 47:08 Eight or nine thousand people. 47:09 And it was that at that time that it really occurred to me 47:12 that I may end up with 3ABN. 47:15 Just we clicked kind instantly. 47:19 And I put out several fleeces. 47:20 One was, I got to like the guy. 47:22 You know, I said, Lord, 47:23 I don't want to have to work to like him, 47:25 I don't want to have to massage in, 47:26 you know, I want to like him right off. 47:27 And if I don't I'm not going to come. 47:29 The second thing is, 47:31 I knew I was going to take a pay cut. 47:33 I said Lord, when I get a figure, 47:36 I don't want to figure to-- to kill me. 47:39 You know, I know I'm gonna take a pay cut. 47:41 But I feel you're calling me. But I don't want to. 47:45 I don't want to go to Danny or Mollie and say 47:47 you know, I need a couple more dollars here, a couple of-- 47:49 I don't want to dickering over a couple of pennies. 47:51 So I said when the figure comes, 47:52 it's got to kind of settle in my spirit. 47:54 And it did. 47:56 And then we settled in and then Irma had to be 47:58 okay with it 47:59 because she's a New York person from Panama, in New York. 48:03 Now we've got to go to Illinois. 48:04 So when I when I got back from here. 48:07 And we were talking about it she said to me. 48:09 "Did they offer you a job?" I said, yeah. 48:12 "Are you going to take it?" I said, yeah, I think so. 48:15 She said, "Okay." 48:17 So the fleeces were falling. 48:19 I put seven out. And all seven of them fell. 48:22 Amen. 48:23 And I said, okay, Lord, you must want-- 48:25 because my union treasurer told me you can't go there. 48:27 They're broke. They don't have any money. 48:30 What? 48:31 Yeah, he said, you guys don't have any money. 48:33 And I said, well, I think I need to be-- 48:35 so I didn't say hope, 48:36 I didn't soap, I didn't say rope. 48:38 I said, broke. They don't have any money. 48:41 And when I got here, and we had day of prayer, 48:43 the first thing you said is, we don't have any money. 48:48 And somebody said, "Praise the Lord." 48:50 And you said, no, we don't we don't have any money. 48:53 And somebody said, "Glory to God." 48:54 Now when someone's praising the Lord, 48:56 you are not supposed to turn around 48:57 and look into their face. 48:58 But I was like, who's praising, he said broke. 49:00 So you know, you want to kind of, 49:02 you know, who is that.. 49:03 Who is praising the Lord... 49:05 Who is praising the Lord that we broke? 49:07 And yet, bills were being paid, 49:10 the work of God was going forward. 49:12 And then Mollie said when I came in the summer for a little 49:15 she said if it gets in your head and your heart, 49:18 and you can't get it out maybe God is telling you to go. 49:22 You know. And I came here for a week. 49:25 And they put me at a desk, empty desk. 49:27 Mollie said, just sit at the desk. 49:29 And so I sat at the empty desk. 49:31 And about an hour later, a phone appeared. 49:34 You know, phone on the desk. 49:35 You know a little bit later, a little list appeared 49:39 so I'm making phone calls for marketing 49:40 I'm not even an employee. 49:42 You know, kind of thing so you kind of get the feel 49:45 and then Irma came out and visited 49:47 and we came to 3ABN, 49:53 just before camp meeting in 2005 49:55 'cause I came in January, she came in a little bit later. 49:58 We came to the house, stayed there four hours, 50:02 changed clothes, dumped out our suitcase, reloaded 50:05 and went to St. Louis 50:07 for the camp meeting for the next ten days. 50:09 Just you know, when they throw you 50:11 in the 3ABN, you all know, they throw you in the deep end. 50:13 You learn to swim 50:14 as you're heading towards the water 50:16 and when you splash, 50:17 you either know how to swim or you don't make it. 50:18 You know, that's faith. It is faith. It is faith. 50:20 They put you in-- 50:22 knowing that you're gonna swim, you know. 50:23 You can swim. 50:25 But I've worked for the denomination 50:27 all my life. 50:30 Baptized my mom, baptized my dad, 50:31 just before he died. 50:33 I've served the Lord all my life. 50:35 Served in a General Conference committee, 50:37 union committees. 50:38 North American division and committee, 50:39 traveled the world for the Lord. 50:41 But the truth is and I say this honestly. 50:44 Nothing has been like that these past 11 years. 50:47 There's no comparison. 50:48 John, I think you can agree with that. 50:50 There's just no comparison to denominational work 50:54 in the end, it's the work of the Lord. 50:56 There's no doubt about that. 50:57 God, God is blessing 50:59 the Seventh-day Adventist Church. 51:02 But God is blessing Three Angels Broadcasting. 51:04 Amen. In a very special way. 51:06 There is something about these grounds, these people, 51:10 this ministry, this work that is unlike-- 51:14 there is no comparison 51:16 with anything in the denomination. 51:18 And I'm not pitting 3ABN against the denomination. 51:21 It's just that the denomination is the denomination. 51:24 And 3ABN is 3ABN. 51:26 And God has a special role, niche, 51:31 say what you will or for this ministry. 51:33 And when you get here and you begin to function, 51:37 you feel it. 51:39 And you can really rise as high and go as far 51:42 as the talent God has given you, 51:45 will take you. 51:46 There is no ceiling, there's no limit 51:49 on what you can do for the Lord. 51:52 Once He gives you talents. 51:53 We had talked about, 51:54 I know we are heading to Yvonne, 51:56 Dare to Dream for a long time. 51:58 But we couldn't get her off the ground. 51:59 And you know, and when you said, 52:01 "Well, C.A., can you handle it?" 52:02 But I'm doing other kinds of things, 52:04 you know, Production Manager for which Greg is now 52:06 is a full time job, plus some you know. 52:09 And then you're hosting shows. 52:11 So there was no time to conceive D to D. 52:14 There just-- It wasn't there. 52:17 And then, of course, I baptized Yvonne. 52:19 It's 30 years now. Wow. Oh, praise the Lord. 52:24 She was just a baby. That's right. 52:26 A young child. Thank you. 52:28 Not my doing. 52:29 Great, great, keep it up. 52:30 And Pastor Lomacang, 52:32 who I affectionately call Lomi, from forty years ago. 52:35 We've known each other forty years. 52:37 You know, we tease each other, 52:38 he used to sleep on my sermon and I sleep on his. 52:40 You had no idea, you both up here. 52:41 Yeah, we are-- end up here. Say that again. 52:43 I used to sleep on your sermons, 52:44 now you sleep on mine. 52:50 About 30 years and Yvonne and I always knew 52:53 we would work together. 52:54 We would talk about that. We hosted a show in-- 52:58 New York progress maybe six years 52:59 before she left to go to Dallas. 53:01 But we kept in touch. We were always in touch. 53:03 And I wanted to get her out here. 53:06 because I just felt she belonged here. 53:09 It was just in my soul. 53:10 We talk about that, how can we get out here. 53:13 And then she came, then it clicked so beautifully 53:16 and so quickly. 53:17 There's something very special about this ministry. 53:20 I love 3ABN 53:21 with all of my heart and my soul. 53:23 And I'm not saying it to pat myself on the back. 53:25 I've never mailed in-- 53:27 When I come here I come to work 53:28 and to serve the Lord 53:30 and I think everybody around this table is the same. 53:31 Nobody comes in and puts it autopilot. 53:33 We come in they're ready to serve and ready to work. 53:36 And so when Irma came, 53:38 I don't know what she had in mind. 53:40 I know it wasn't producer for 3ABN Latino 53:43 and all the things she's doing now. 53:45 But again, you have gifts, you have talents. 53:48 Irma has an eye for this kind of stuff. 53:50 You know, she likes this. She likes to paint. 53:54 I don't like painting. I mean, house painting. 53:56 Irma gets into the room 53:57 put up the tape and make the little lines or what not. 53:59 She loves doing that stuff. 54:00 So all of those talents which are resident in you, 54:03 God will use for the building of the gospel. 54:06 And so you came 54:07 and kind of just settled in, you know. 54:10 Well, I did consider when he told me 54:14 about coming here and I thought, 54:16 oh, my goodness, a little town. 54:20 West Frankfurt is a big town about 8,200 people, right now. 54:25 But it's certain, Kenny, Tammy and I... 54:26 But we ended up in Thompsonville. 54:27 We are born and raised there. We are still here. 54:30 Yes, but I was leaving my kids 54:33 we have never separated. 54:34 They-- leave that around town too so, 54:38 so that was the consideration. 54:40 But-- but then I really got exciting 54:43 because this was a new life 54:44 and new life with C.A. and 3ABN. 54:48 But never still didn't plan to to come and work here. 54:52 I had work all my life. 54:54 I worked as a medical lab tech. 54:57 And I had started to take my courses for the nursing. 55:04 And I was just starting to do my practical. 55:07 So I said, wow, I have another six months 55:11 to finish these and do am I going to leave it. 55:15 But I did. 55:17 The Lord gave me peace and I figured well. 55:19 you know, I get over that 55:20 and I am going to switch to another college 55:23 and I'll continue. 55:25 But just things went on 55:27 where I had to do all of these things. 55:31 And they kept asking me to come to 3ABN to work. 55:35 And so I pray about it and I said, okay, Lord. 55:38 Well, since I have to do all these things, 55:40 to start all over again in the nursing career, 55:44 I'm going to go to 3ABN. 55:47 And I had to say that it's been 90 percent 55:51 a real, real blessing. 55:54 I have-- the Lord has changed me in many ways. 55:58 Okay. 56:00 I think He's made me more humble. 56:03 I needed that I think. 56:08 I have learned a lot and I have met 56:11 very, you know, special people here in 3ABN. 56:15 And, Danny, you have been an inspiration 56:20 and you may not know, 56:22 but every time you talk about your experiences 56:26 and how you have just given off your heart 56:30 to do the work of the Lord, 56:33 and to people that have come around 56:35 and people that are in need, has been very special to me. 56:40 And I am so thankful to you 56:42 because you have blessed C.A. and I in tremendous ways. 56:46 Well, we are blessed that you all are here. 56:48 And when CA talked about being broke, 56:51 we say that every year. 56:52 What that really means is now we have assets, 56:54 all kinds of assets, 56:56 but we don't have money in the bank. 56:57 So the beginning of the year, when we plan our evangelism, 57:00 we don't say, let's say now we've got $100,000. 57:04 Brian can tell you this. 57:05 Or a million dollars for evangelism. 57:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 57:09 He's shaking his head. 57:12 So in that sense we're broke. 57:14 Because a lot of times a denomination 57:15 they have a certain amount of money they set aside. 57:17 We just do it by faith and that's where faith kicks in 57:20 and I think what you all have seen is an organization 57:23 where we don't have so much, what would you call it? 57:26 Surplus. Yeah, liquid, the cash. 57:29 Yeah, absolutely 57:31 and you know, plans everything is set up in certain way. 57:33 We don't really do that so much. 57:36 And not just the budget financially, 57:38 but I'm just saying, we have to go through certain, 57:40 you know, steps in order to make decisions. 57:42 Here we pray about it, if the Lord says yes, we go. 57:45 Speaking of go, we have take a break 57:47 for just a couple of minutes and we'll be right back. |
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